From randy at INTER-CORPORATE.COM  Mon Jan  1 00:32:28 2001
From: randy at INTER-CORPORATE.COM (Randolf Richardson)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 19:32:28 -0500
Subject: Oracle (WEBDB) + NW5.0
In-Reply-To: <sa4f020b.031@kalmanovitz.co.il>
Message-ID: <B4224D1D2F@mail.inter-corporate.net>

> Hi!
>
> I'm using Oracle on NSBS5.0 network.
>
> I'm trying to built a site using WEBDB. I did it in the past, but
> now it begins to work for long time. Any one can help?

        Could you rephrase the question?  Your description is ambiguous, and
my guess is that you're trying to explain that it's not working now??

Randolf Richardson - randolf at inter-corporate.com
Inter-Corporate Computer & Network Services, Inc.
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
http://www.inter-corporate.com/

"Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives."


 

From acquistj at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU  Mon Jan  1 08:50:52 2001
From: acquistj at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU (Joe Acquisto)
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 03:50:52 -0500
Subject: VREPAIR hangs on exit
Message-ID: <sa4f7e01.091@lan.newpaltz.edu>

This would not happen to be a Dell 4200 would it?  If so, is
Virtual Sizing enabled?  That mya not be the exact term, it may
be "flex" RAID or the like.

If yes, your only permanent solution may be to re init they array as a
fixed size array and rebuild/restore.

joea/

>>> Daniel DeNise <dwd at UMR.EDU> 12/30/00 21:00 PM >>>
Here's one I haven't seen in over a decade working with NetWare. We had
users complaining of corruption in some files, so off hours we
dismounted
their data volume and ran vrepair. Vrepair went thru it's normal steps
and
displayed the line saying it finished. Then it hung. I never returned to
the menu. We couldn't get it unloaded and ended up rebooting. The tech
involved stepped thru a vrepair of another volume, just to be sure he
knew
what it's supposed to do, and that ran fine. Re-running vrepair on the
problem volume hung again at the same spot. Anyone seen this before, or
have any ideas?

This is NetWare 5.0. I'm not where I can look up which service pack is
on
it, but I think it's SP4. The problem volume is on the same RAID set as
the
one that vrepaired fine, so it shouldn't be a disk channel issue.

If I can't get vrepair working my monday afternoon, I'm deleting and
recreating the problem volume, and restoring from backups. This is the
data
volume for our Admininstrative Services group, who won't be happy if
it's
still broken Tuesday morning.

 

From MarkSmith at DATAIP.CO.UK  Mon Jan  1 11:24:59 2001
From: MarkSmith at DATAIP.CO.UK (Mark Smith)
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 06:24:59 -0500
Subject: NW51SP2 Problems
Message-ID: <sa506604.012@FS1.co.uk>

Joel,

I did an upgrade of a SBS 5.1 server involving NW51SP2 (not the A version)..... I saw very very similar problems. I have an incident open with Novell, but we don't seem to be getting to a solution.


My problems may vary as I was using the small business suite... but basically the same software.

Installing SP2 killed my licencing. I had a site where only two users could login (using the grace logins). This was caused by the SP2 copying the wrong server.exe. Novell guess this may be connected to the products.dat file being corrupt or odd. I checked mine and it did have invalid entries (though I checked our office server and it was the same).
To solve it on site I copied the correct server.exe from the SP2 CD, however, all the licencing via NWAdmin was broken, but users could still log in. Other files may also have been copied incorrectly.

My problem only occured when I did an upgrade from 5.1 direct to SP2. If I did 5.1 -> SP1 -> SP2 (like on our office machine) then no problem.

Timesync.... SP2 seems to screw this up. On mine (both) it changed time source type from SINGLE to SECONDARY (we are in a single server environment). Checkout timesync.cfg and see if it is correct.

Have you let Novell know about these problems?



-- 
Mark Smith                                  dataIP
tel. +44(0)1785 609520                 fax. +44(0)1785 609521
smtp:MarkSmith at dataIP.co.uk     http://www.dataIP.co.uk/

 

From wallewek at KMSI.NET  Tue Jan  2 05:24:35 2001
From: wallewek at KMSI.NET (wallewek at KMSI.NET)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 00:24:35 -0500
Subject: Memory requirements in 5.x -- cache buffers v/s virtual memory
Message-ID: <0lo25t0iop675d0op0dboa6nkvtpnv8lgv@4ax.com>

I've just upgraded a 5-user NetWare Small Business system from NW4SB to
NW51SBS.  It has 256MB of RAM and about 8GB of RAM.

I'm a little bit surprised at what happened to the free cache buffers.
They were hovering in the 70%-plus range, and are now down around 50%.  I'm
nervous about that.  Do I need to worry?

I haven't done a rigorous search to see where it's gone, yet, but a quick
scan didn't show anything obvious.  Killing X didn't help.  I don't recall
anything else in NW5 that was supposed to eat RAM like that.  

I got to thinking... does NetWare 5's virtual memory change that 50/70%
rule of thumb that is so vital for NW4?

Oh, a tip for anybody else doing the upgrade:  if you have any hardware
(other than a PS/2 mouse) configured on IRQ12 on NW4, there's a good chance
your NW5 upgrade will fail rather messily.  It's probably dependent on
exactly how the motherboard handles its mouse port.  It cost me several
hours of sleep.

/kenw
Ken Wallewein
Calgary, Alberta
kenw at kmsi.net

 

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From Sjsmith at RA.ROCKWELL.COM  Tue Jan  2 07:01:18 2001
From: Sjsmith at RA.ROCKWELL.COM (Sjsmith at RA.ROCKWELL.COM)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 02:01:18 -0500
Subject: Steve J Smith will be out of the office from 01/01/2001 -
              01/08/2001
Message-ID: <OF4E988211.32A135C8-ON862569C8.002690FC@ra.rockwell.com>

I will be out of the office from 01/01/2001 until 01/08/2001.

I will respond to your message when I return.

In the mean time, Rhonda Dague should be able to address any of your
questions and/or concerns in my absence.

 

From dick.lombardo at EY.COM  Tue Jan  2 09:21:43 2001
From: dick.lombardo at EY.COM (dick.lombardo at EY.COM)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 04:21:43 -0500
Subject: Dick A. Lombardo/TSS/EYLLP/US is out of the office.
Message-ID: <200101020911.EAA02473@gateway2.ey.com>

I will be out of the office from 12/28/2000 until 01/08/2001.

I will respond to your message when I return.

 

From admin at IAA.GOV.IL  Tue Jan  2 09:51:09 2001
From: admin at IAA.GOV.IL (Mike Glassman - Admin)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 04:51:09 -0500
Subject: Move an App Object
Message-ID: <7F4D39EF73659140A9DC38EB5FC87505486958@hobit.IAADOM>

All,

Anyone know of a simple and easy way to move an app object from one
container to another without having to recreate it ?

Mike Glassman
System & Security Admin
Israeli Airports Authority
Ben-Gurion Airport
http://www.ben-gurion-airport.co.il

Tel : 972-3-9710785
Fax : 972-3-9710939
Email : admin at iaa.gov.il

Usage of this email address or any email address at iaa.gov.il for the
purpose of sales pitches, SPAM or any other such unwanted garbage, is
illegal, and any person, whether corporate or alone doing so, will be
prosecuted to the fullest possible extent.

 

From admin at IAA.GOV.IL  Tue Jan  2 10:53:13 2001
From: admin at IAA.GOV.IL (Mike Glassman - Admin)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 05:53:13 -0500
Subject: Rename file using NAL on Win2K
Message-ID: <7F4D39EF73659140A9DC38EB5FC87505486959@hobit.IAADOM>

All,

I am looking for a method to rename a file using NAL under WinNt and Win2K.

The file is NWWS2NDS.DLL used by the Netware client and which it seems
causes problems with high utilization on Netware servers sometimes.

Creating an app object will allow me to copy the file, but not rename it.

It is not possible to delete the file in it's dll state as it is in use by
the OS.

Any ideas how to do it ?

Under Win9X, I use wininit.ini which works a charm, but this is not
available for NT or 2K.

Ideas ?

Mike Glassman
System & Security Admin
Israeli Airports Authority
Ben-Gurion Airport
http://www.ben-gurion-airport.co.il

Tel : 972-3-9710785
Fax : 972-3-9710939
Email : admin at iaa.gov.il

Usage of this email address or any email address at iaa.gov.il for the
purpose of sales pitches, SPAM or any other such unwanted garbage, is
illegal, and any person, whether corporate or alone doing so, will be
prosecuted to the fullest possible extent.

 

From dwd at UMR.EDU  Tue Jan  2 10:58:52 2001
From: dwd at UMR.EDU (Denise, Daniel)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 05:58:52 -0500
Subject: VREPAIR hangs on exit
Message-ID: <9DA8D24B915BD1118911006094516EAF07294692@umr-mail02.cc.umr.edu>

Yes, it would happen to be a Dell 4200. But I don't think FlexRAID virtual
sizing is turned on. After the fiasco we ran into on a prior Dell system I
made sure we turned it off on later installs.

Our fiasco was accidentally defining the NetWare partition and volume to be
the entire virtual size. When we realized it, we tried to fix it by
recreating just the volume to the physical size. It didn't work and we ended
up doing a tape restore then, too.

What did FlexRAID virtual sizing do to you?

Daniel DeNise                    dwd at umr.edu
Computing Services               573-3341-4841
University of Missouri-Rolla       http://www.umr.edu

On Sun, 31 Dec 2000 18:41:49 -0500, Joe Acquisto <acquistj at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU>
wrote:

>This would not happen to be a Dell 4200 would it?  If so, is
>Virtual Sizing enabled?  That may not be the exact term, it may
>be "flex" RAID or the like.
>
>If yes, your only permanent solution may be to re init they array as a
>fixed size array and rebuild/restore.
>
>joea/
>
>>>> Daniel DeNise <dwd at UMR.EDU> 12/30/00 21:00 PM >>>
>Here's one I haven't seen in over a decade working with NetWare. We had
>users complaining of corruption in some files, so off hours we
>dismounted
>their data volume and ran vrepair. Vrepair went thru it's normal steps
>and
>displayed the line saying it finished. Then it hung. I never returned to
>the menu. We couldn't get it unloaded and ended up rebooting. The tech
>involved stepped thru a vrepair of another volume, just to be sure he
>knew
>what it's supposed to do, and that ran fine. Re-running vrepair on the
>problem volume hung again at the same spot. Anyone seen this before, or
>have any ideas?
>
>This is NetWare 5.0. I'm not where I can look up which service pack is
>on
>it, but I think it's SP4. The problem volume is on the same RAID set as
>the
>one that vrepaired fine, so it shouldn't be a disk channel issue.
>
>If I can't get vrepair working my Monday afternoon, I'm deleting and
>recreating the problem volume, and restoring from backups. This is the
>data
>volume for our Administrative Services group, who won't be happy if
>it's
>still broken Tuesday morning.

 

From jlmiller at MMTNETWORKS.COM.AU  Tue Jan  2 11:04:58 2001
From: jlmiller at MMTNETWORKS.COM.AU (Jon Miller)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 06:04:58 -0500
Subject: block size on nss volume
Message-ID: <sa51c85f.079@gateway.mmtnetworks.com.au>

Is there a way to change the block size on a nss volume.  I've noticed mine are set to 4K, I would have thought the default to be at 64K.  Do I have to reformat (re partition) the NSS volume?
searched on Novell Web site for information, nothing concrete.

Thanks

Jon L. Miller, MCNE ASE
Director/Sr Systems Consultant
MMT Networks Pty Ltd
http://www.mmtnetworks.com.au
PH: +61 8 9242 8600
FX: +61 8 9242 8611
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From jlmiller at MMTNETWORKS.COM.AU  Tue Jan  2 11:07:46 2001
From: jlmiller at MMTNETWORKS.COM.AU (Jon Miller)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 06:07:46 -0500
Subject: Block size on NSS
Message-ID: <sa51c906.080@gateway.mmtnetworks.com.au>

Never mind to previous post, I see it cannot be done nor would it make a difference on the NSS volume.



Jon L. Miller, MCNE ASE
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From Bobmar22 at AOL.COM  Tue Jan  2 11:22:53 2001
From: Bobmar22 at AOL.COM (Bobmar22 at AOL.COM)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 06:22:53 -0500
Subject: Recommended DS version for mixed 4.11 and 5.1 environment
Message-ID: <78.ea29817.27831409@aol.com>

I have one server on our WAN that we plan on keeping as a 4.11 server. Can
anyone tell me if DS version 6.02 is adequate?  The reason for not upgrading
this one is that it is running NetWare Connect which won't run on 5.1.  And,
it is not a Pentium 2 machine, which is required according to the
installation requirements.  We have 8 modems used for dial out only running
off an Equinox serial board.  I have read over NIAS information and it seems
quite complicated for our application.  NetWare Connect runs well and
services our needs.  This server is also running our GWIA (5.5.2) in remote
mode if that is of any consideration.  The rest of the WAN consists of four
segments.  Segment A will have this 4.11 server as well as a 5.1 server
holding the master and certificate.  Segment B will be a 5.1, Segment C will
be a 5.1, and Segment D has two machines which will be running StandBy Server.
Thank you for any thoughts,
Bob

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From hooeld at MAIL.BAY.K12.FL.US  Tue Jan  2 14:03:47 2001
From: hooeld at MAIL.BAY.K12.FL.US (Leslie Hooe)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 09:03:47 -0500
Subject: NOVELL Digest - 31 Dec 2000 to 1 Jan 2001 (#2001-2)
Message-ID: <sa518ad1.097@iserv1.bay.k12.fl.us>

I have been having a similat problem, but it does not seem to be related to SP2. I am loosing licensing on random servers, for no reason that I can see. I have to remove the license, and reinstall it. I can not relate it to anything, as it is happening on servers that we have not touched, and we have not updated the master NDS server either.


Leslie Hooe
Telecommunications Manager
Bay District Schools
(850) 747-5295
hooeld at mail.bay.k12.fl.us

>>> LISTSERV at LSV.SYR.EDU 01/01 11:00 PM >>>

 

From jas at DECT.COM  Tue Jan  2 14:21:38 2001
From: jas at DECT.COM (jas at DECT.COM)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 09:21:38 -0500
Subject: Recommended DS version for mixed 4.11 and 5.1 environment
References: <78.ea29817.27831409@aol.com>
Message-ID: <01f701c074c7$4e805100$6501010a@jerrysw2k>

If you're gonna keep the 4.11 server around, you ought to install the latest service pack (9's a little new, 8's been around for awhile).  Your version of DS is pretty old and there have been some changes that are relative to a mixed NW4/NW5 tree.  You would do well to do a little research on the knowledgebase on this topic.  Try searching for "mixed tree" and I think you'll find what you want (including the recommendation for the NW4 server to be on 6.09).
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bobmar22 at AOL.COM 
  Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
  To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 6:22 AM
  Subject: Recommended DS version for mixed 4.11 and 5.1 environment


  I have one server on our WAN that we plan on keeping as a 4.11 server. Can 
  anyone tell me if DS version 6.02 is adequate?  The reason for not upgrading 
  this one is that it is running NetWare Connect which won't run on 5.1.  And, 
  it is not a Pentium 2 machine, which is required according to the 
  installation requirements.  We have 8 modems used for dial out only running 
  off an Equinox serial board.  I have read over NIAS information and it seems 
  quite complicated for our application.  NetWare Connect runs well and 
  services our needs.  This server is also running our GWIA (5.5.2) in remote 
  mode if that is of any consideration.  The rest of the WAN consists of four 
  segments.  Segment A will have this 4.11 server as well as a 5.1 server 
  holding the master and certificate.  Segment B will be a 5.1, Segment C will 
  be a 5.1, and Segment D has two mach! ines which will be running StandBy Server. 
  Thank you for any thoughts, 
  Bob 

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From Mark.Puchalski at COUZENS.COM  Tue Jan  2 14:24:36 2001
From: Mark.Puchalski at COUZENS.COM (Mark Puchalski)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 09:24:36 -0500
Subject: sp8a or sp9?
Message-ID: <sa519e0b.086@xjp.couzens.com>

In July of last year, I upgraded my NW 4.11/SP6a server to NW 5.1.  I did update my DS to the latest version for 4.11 prior to the upgrade, but due to a small DOS partition, couldn't move past SP6a.  The across the wire upgrade worked just fine.

>>> admin at IAA.GOV.IL 12/31/2000 1:15:17 AM >>>
The rule regarding SP's is simple in my opinion.

Never install the latest SP directly into your working environment, and
either test in a testable environment or watch the list and see what happes
re the patch.

Too many pathces have come out with superceding patches a short while later,
such as SP2 and then SP2A for 5.1.

There is no set rule that I know of that states you have to be at SP 8A or 9
in order to upgrade to 5.1, the only thing you have to make sure is that
your DS is at the latest version Netware recommends for such a move (on all
your servers).

Other then that....it's touch and go and up to you.

Mike

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Angus Scott-Fleming [SMTP:angussf at geoapps.com] 
> Sent: ? ????? 29 2000 4:26
> To:   NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU 
> Subject:      Re: sp8a or sp9?
> 
> On 28 Dec 2000, at 14:12, Shawn Lindow wrote:
> 
> > I'm trying to prepare to upgrade to NW5.1 from NW4.11. I'm currently at
> SP6.
> > Is sp8a a good patch? Would anyone recommend sp9?
> 
> I asked this a month or so ago and got _NO_ (meaning **_ZERO_**)
> comments on this.
> 
> FWIW I just bit the bullet and ugraded an NWSB 4.2 server from SP6
> (6a?) to SP9.  The upgrade went perfectly and the server has been
> running without noticeable problems since the upgrade.  The server
> had been losing cache buffers so seriously I had a CRON job rebooting
> the server every Sunday and Thursday.  Since I patched it on 12/26,
> the cache buffers have dropped only slightly:
> 
> cache buffers:
> original 64,903
> 
> 00/12/26 17:22 53,472
> 00/12/26 17:25 53,655
> 00/12/26 22:38 53,310
> 00/12/27  7:38 53,120
> 00/12/28  8:13 53,095 53,104
> 00/12/28 18:23 53,013
> 
> I'm slightly concerned about the slight but consistent decrease every
> day, but this is far far better than what I had before - it was down
> below 30,000 within three days.
> 
> FYI system is a no-name clone P-II 450 w 128 MB RAM, dual Adaptec
> 2940UWs duplexing dual 9GB WD SCSI drives, Intel Pro/100+ NIC,
> (unfortunately not server-grade :-( but at least it's an Intel :-) ),
> external modem for Tobit FaxWare, external HP 1537 DDS3, running
> BackupExec 8.0.3102 and FaxWare 5.1, PowerChute 4.3.3 (?)....
> 
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> Angus Scott-Fleming      GeoApplications, Tucson, Arizona
> angussf at geoapps.com   1-520-290-5038 / fax 1-208-248-3124
> ---------------------------------------------------------


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From JRD at CC.USU.EDU  Tue Jan  2 14:46:32 2001
From: JRD at CC.USU.EDU (Joe Doupnik)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 09:46:32 -0500
Subject: Memory requirements in 5.x -- cache buffers v/s virtual memory
Message-ID: <01JYFA34IZFM94G7RB@cc.usu.edu>

>I've just upgraded a 5-user NetWare Small Business system from NW4SB to
>NW51SBS.  It has 256MB of RAM and about 8GB of RAM.
>
>I'm a little bit surprised at what happened to the free cache buffers.
>They were hovering in the 70%-plus range, and are now down around 50%.  =
>I'm
>nervous about that.  Do I need to worry?
>
>I haven't done a rigorous search to see where it's gone, yet, but a quick
>scan didn't show anything obvious.  Killing X didn't help.  I don't =
>recall
>anything else in NW5 that was supposed to eat RAM like that. =20
>
>I got to thinking... does NetWare 5's virtual memory change that 50/70%
>rule of thumb that is so vital for NW4?
>
>Oh, a tip for anybody else doing the upgrade:  if you have any hardware
>(other than a PS/2 mouse) configured on IRQ12 on NW4, there's a good =
>chance
>your NW5 upgrade will fail rather messily.  It's probably dependent on
>exactly how the motherboard handles its mouse port.  It cost me several
>hours of sleep.
>/kenw
>Ken Wallewein
>Calgary, Alberta
>kenw at kmsi.net
--------
        Use Monitor to see which things are consuming memory. DS itself
can do so as well as NSS volumes. This has nothing to do with virtual
memory / swap files.
        Joe D.

 

From columbo at DDS.NL  Tue Jan  2 15:35:50 2001
From: columbo at DDS.NL (Roland Kool)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 10:35:50 -0500
Subject: NOVELL Digest - 21 Dec 2000 (#2000-520)
In-Reply-To: <sa434b4d.074@hcfa.gov>
Message-ID: <NOVELL%2001010210355064@LSV.SYR.EDU>

Patricia,

Thanks for the response. The second URL is really interesting and
exactly describing my problem. In the mean time, other people
suggested regedit /s from within DOS which is also a very good
alternative.
With all the different suggestions, I will solve this problem. Thanks
again for the help.

Roland


> Here's a starting point, Roland.  The following may not fill your needs
> entirely, but you'll probably be able to find something from there to help out.
>
> http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/zenworks/trenches/tr_eliminate_dupe_names_zw.htm
>
> http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/zenworks/trenches/tr_engl_zcnc_tool_zw.html
> (however, this last requires a DNS server to point to as part of the imaging
> process)
>
> >>> Automatic digest processor <LISTSERV at LSV.SYR.EDU> 12/21/00 >>>
> Date:    Thu, 21 Dec 2000 23:45:45 +0100
> From:    Roland Kool <columbo at DDS.NL>
> Subject: ZEN 3 Question
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm currently testing with ZfD3 in a small testenvironment. The
> imaging and auto registration software works great.
> But I have a question I hope someone here has already solved. Our
> attempt is to give every PC an unique name. The base image for win9x
> contains ie a computername with the name xxxx. When 20 computers
> receive this base image, our ws import policy creates 20 workstations
> in NDS all with a name xxxx-macaddress. This is not what we want, we
> would like to see these workstations registered as pc01-macaddress,
> pc02-macaddress, etc. But because right after the first reboot, the
> workstation already gets imported, we don't have a change to change
> the computername, without bring down the auto-registration software.
> I hope you are still with me... :-)
>
> Question is: is there a way for Windows 9x workstations to change
> the computername before it's booted. Is there some kind of dos utility
> which can do that for me? I know there is such a tool for Windows NT
> workstations (powerquests sidchanger) but this tool doesn't work on
> Windows 9x.
> My guess is that I'm not the first one to solve this problem. I
> wonder how other people have solved this problem. I would love to
> hear about them. Thanks in advance for your time. If you have any
> question regarding this text, please contact me.
>
> Regards,
>
> Roland
>
> ------------------------------

 

From columbo at DDS.NL  Tue Jan  2 15:35:57 2001
From: columbo at DDS.NL (Roland Kool)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 10:35:57 -0500
Subject: NOVELL Digest - 20 Dec 2000 to 21 Dec 2000 - Special issue
              (#2000-519)
In-Reply-To: <sa49d0fd.025@gateway.mmtnetworks.com.au>
Message-ID: <NOVELL%2001010210355710@LSV.SYR.EDU>

Jon,

I'll try to explain again:
eDirectory for Linux is the ability to have your Linux server show up
as an object in NDS. The Linux server can hold replica's of your NDS
tree. There is an SLP agent running so you can see the Linux server
in networkneighbourhood. Last but not least, you can use Console One
on Linux to manage your tree.
If users need to login on the Linux machine, you need to create
accounts for them. Remember, just eDirectory DOES NOT DO THIS! You
will need Account Management 2.1 (IIRC) for this. This is eDirectory
+ the necessary PAM modules.
To access resources on Netware machines (like volumes) you will need
to compile a kernel with IPX support. Additionally, you will need to
install ncpfs, ncp utilities which let's you map volumes of the
Netware machine to a directory on your Linux machine.
I have very few experience with Caldera, but my guess is that they
have more and better utilities for that. I don't know if they include
account management...
I hope this clears things up. Good luck,

Roland


> Roland I received in the mail the Caldera Technical resource CD June 00.
It has OpenLinux eServer 2.3 and NDS eDirectory for Linux.  I did d/l
the guide which I'll be checking out.  To make things hopefully
clearer, all I want to be able to do is have a user working from home
to dial in to the Linux server (RH6.1) and access their MYOB data
file which resides on the NetWare Volume.  Main reason is the NetWare
server does a tape backup every night whereas the Linux server isn't
backup at all (yet).  I will be implementing a method to image the
Linux server to NetWare for backup purposes.
> The user will always need to login to gain access.
>
> Thanks for any input in this.
>
> Jon L. Miller, MCNE ASE
> Director/Sr Systems Consultant
> MMT Networks Pty Ltd
> http://www.mmtnetworks.com.au
> PH: +61 8 9242 8600
> FX: +61 8 9242 8611
>

 

From jlmiller at MMTNETWORKS.COM.AU  Tue Jan  2 15:55:57 2001
From: jlmiller at MMTNETWORKS.COM.AU (Jon Miller)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 10:55:57 -0500
Subject: Volume information
Message-ID: <sa520bcb.083@gateway.mmtnetworks.com.au>

I've noticed that the reported volume space is wrong on a NW5 server with an NSS volume.  The total space was 20G and now it reports (if using a DOS dir command) a lot less (<3G).  This has caused Norton Ghost to think the amount of space on the volume is not enough to allow a ghosted image (created from a PC with 6.4G HDD) to be created. Has anyone had such probem and if so what fix was applied.  This server has the latest patch applied.  I tried this through both NWC3.3 and DOS client.

Thanks

 

From ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU  Tue Jan  2 16:50:29 2001
From: ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU (Joe Acquisto)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 11:50:29 -0500
Subject: VREPAIR hangs on exit
Message-ID: <sa51c07f.047@lan.newpaltz.edu>

>. . .
>
>What did FlexRAID virtual sizing do to you?

Oh, dear.  We don't want to rehash that, do we?  It may yet be in the
list archives, but . . . . oh, I can't resist.  The short and bitter of
it is that it hosed up one of the volumes in the array.  The how and why
is really impossible to nail down, as it was complicated by what
appeared to be a RAID controller failure in the middle of the hassle.
It appears, tho, that DELL claims (claimed, anyway), the Virtual Sizing
should not be used with NW5, especially when it is an upgrade from
NW4.11, which mine was.

Be thankfull, in any case, that you have good backups.  At that point,
my tape changer was out for repair.

Since rebuilding the array as a "static" sized one, it seems to be just
fine.  Another thing I did, was to make sure all the drives where
jumpered identically (they were) and to add jumpers, if needed, to force
them into a mode compatible with the controller.  That is, no "auto
determine" for anything at all in the drive interface area.

So,

When you changer is in danger
and your tapes become your drapes,

And tech supports in for a huddle,
And their chatter turns to natter
And you hopes become just jokes
And the whole things just a puzzle

Have your boss build you a muzzle
Lest you cuss and cause a fuss

Just let them have their say
Every dog will have his day

Lest they get you in a muddle
and your brain becomes a puddle.

We can rebuild that array
and hope it never goes astray

Else it's burn the midnight oil
While our termpers are aboil

And we ponder things obtuse
with apologies to Suess.

(Ain't ya sorry you asked?)

joea



>Daniel DeNise                    dwd at umr.edu
>Computing Services               573-3341-4841
>University of Missouri-Rolla       http://www.umr.edu
>

 

From ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU  Tue Jan  2 16:56:30 2001
From: ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU (Joe Acquisto)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 11:56:30 -0500
Subject: Memory requirements in 5.x -- cache buffers v/s virtual memory
Message-ID: <sa51c1ea.048@lan.newpaltz.edu>

>I've just upgraded a 5-user NetWare Small Business system from NW4SB
>to
>NW51SBS.  It has 256MB of RAM and about 8GB of RAM.
>
>I'm a little bit surprised at what happened to the free cache
buffers.
>They were hovering in the 70%-plus range, and are now down around
>50%.  I'm
>nervous about that.  Do I need to worry?
>
>I haven't done a rigorous search to see where it's gone, yet, but a
quick
>scan didn't show anything obvious.  Killing X didn't help.  I don't
recall
>anything else in NW5 that was supposed to eat RAM like that.
>
>I got to thinking... does NetWare 5's virtual memory change that
50/70%
>rule of thumb that is so vital for NW4?

It may be normal,  NW5.1 (and it appears 5.0 with DS7.51 and above)
cache DS stuff in RAM.  It may be that DS grabs this before the cache
buffer alloctor can "see" RAM, and it will have less free RAM from which
to allocate them.  OR, it may be too early in the morning for real
thinking.

joea/

>
>Oh, a tip for anybody else doing the upgrade:  if you have any
hardware
>(other than a PS/2 mouse) configured on IRQ12 on NW4, there's a good
>chance
>your NW5 upgrade will fail rather messily.  It's probably dependent
on
>exactly how the motherboard handles its mouse port.  It cost me
several
>hours of sleep.
>
>/kenw
>Ken Wallewein
>Calgary, Alberta
>kenw at kmsi.net

 

From hfleming at MOOSEBIRD.COM  Tue Jan  2 20:02:16 2001
From: hfleming at MOOSEBIRD.COM (Howard Fleming)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 15:02:16 -0500
Subject: Recommended DS version for mixed 4.11 and 5.1 environment
In-Reply-To: <78.ea29817.27831409@aol.com>
Message-ID: <3A51ECA7.5352.B32D034@localhost>

Actually, nwc is included in 5.1 (nias), and works prettty much the
same as nwc 2.0.

As for the hardware, in my experience, Petinum 2 or better is
necessary for NW 5+.....

Howard

On 2 Jan 2001, at 6:22, Bobmar22 at AOL.COM wrote:

> I have one server on our WAN that we plan on keeping as a 4.11 server.
> Can anyone tell me if DS version 6.02 is adequate?  The reason for not
> upgrading this one is that it is running NetWare Connect which won't run
> on 5.1.  And, it is not a Pentium 2 machine, which is required according
> to the installation requirements.  We have 8 modems used for dial out
> only running off an Equinox serial board.  I have read over NIAS
> information and it seems quite complicated for our application.  NetWare
> Connect runs well and services our needs.  This server is also running
> our GWIA (5.5.2) in remote mode if that is of any consideration.  The
> rest of the WAN consists of four segments.  Segment A will have this
> 4.11 server as well as a 5.1 server holding the master and certificate.
> Segment B will be a 5.1, Segment C will be a 5.1, and Segment D has two
> machines which will be running StandBy Server. Thank you for any
> thoughts, Bob
>
>


Howard Fleming
Moosebird Internet Services
hfleming at moosebird.com

 

From PAltmaier at MDGI.COM  Tue Jan  2 20:13:22 2001
From: PAltmaier at MDGI.COM (Phil Altmaier)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 15:13:22 -0500
Subject: Bordermanager server locks up....?!!?
Message-ID: <61D5B3BA64A4D311A04A006008A6C64D0A3C9C@beluga.mdgi.com>

The motherboard on these systems will support a 200Mhz non-MMX processor.
I have had my 166 overclocked for the past 6 months with no problem.

Phil


-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Heywood, IQX
To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
Sent: 12/30/00 2:12 AM
Subject: Re: Bordermanager server locks up....?!!?

What's wrong?

No where near enough RAM.
6gig HDD that would be an IDE disk then... this will effect the
processor
and if its a recycled Prosignia 200 then the best processor it could
have
would be 166 Pentium.

I have one client who insisted on using a recycled Prosignia 300 (that
actually older than yours) with a P75 and 160 MD RAM and this has the
same
problems as you but even under light load.

Verdict, get more RAM, and a SCSI HDD system and you might just be able
to
keep it going...

Tim
************************************************
Tim Heywood
IQX Ltd.
Scotland
(God's Country)

"Like a splinter in your mind... Driving you MAD"
************************************************
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gordon Grant" <ggrant at PENNINGTON.ORG>
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
To: <NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU>
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 11:00 PM
Subject: Bordermanager server locks up....?!!?


> Out Bordermanager server works just fine w/out load (just a few users
at a
time). It has been up and running quite ok over the last 2 weeks (winter
break).
> But when students are here, it seems to lock almost every day. Just
stops
providing Internet access.
> We have both our desktop browsers and our Groupwise internet email
running
through this BM server, so it is important to keep it going 7/24.
> The server is a recycled Compaq, Prosignia 200. 82Mb ram, 6gig
harddrive,
Netware 5.x.
> It chugs along ok, the cache works as it should... then it just stops
responding to client browsers. I shut it down, clear all caches,
restart,
and it is ok again.
> If anyone can advise me on what, where to look for what is ailing this
thing, and what I might do to make it ok, I'd appreciate it.
> The server did work quite alright for weeks (it was built at the end
of
this past summer), and only began to be contrary at the end of the
November.
No, didn't install any new anything on it. Just let it run. Once a week
or
so, downed it, cleared caches, restarted services. No obvious error
messages. Just don't have a clue what is wrong with it!
>
> Thanks, and hope your New Year is a great one!
>
> Gordon Grant
>

 

From WojasinB at BESTACCESS.COM  Tue Jan  2 21:16:27 2001
From: WojasinB at BESTACCESS.COM (Wojasinski, Bob)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 16:16:27 -0500
Subject: Converting from Static to Dynamic TCP/IP addresses
Message-ID: <FB345665337AD411952000508B6D389801206AFD@mail.bestlock.com>

Group:

I'm in the process of converting our static IP addresses to dynamic
addresses.  On the Novell site they list a web site www.zenworksmaster.com
that has a file that will automatically make the change on Win95/98/NT
machines. Unfortunately the site is down.  Does anybody else know where I
can get this file or one like it?  I've found a couple but they only work on
95/98 machines.  The plan is to use Zenworks to force run the file on each
machine to cut down on the leg work.

Thanks!

Bob Wojasinski
CNE 5

 

From Lester.Bennett at TREASURY.QLD.GOV.AU  Tue Jan  2 21:45:36 2001
From: Lester.Bennett at TREASURY.QLD.GOV.AU (Lester.Bennett at TREASURY.QLD.GOV.AU)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 16:45:36 -0500
Subject: Move an App Object
Message-ID: <4A2569C8.00778683.00@nt_trs_16.treasury.qld.gov.au>

In NWAdmin hilight the object and press F7.
Seems too simple I'm sure there must be more to your question.

Lester Bennett
Happy new Year everyone and welcome to the start of the Third Millenium






Mike Glassman - Admin <admin at IAA.GOV.IL> on 02/01/2001 07:51:47 PM

Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU>

To:   NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
cc:    (bcc: Lester Bennett/Treasury_QLD_GOV/AU)
Subject:  Move an App Object




All,

Anyone know of a simple and easy way to move an app object from one
container to another without having to recreate it ?

Mike Glassman
System & Security Admin
Israeli Airports Authority
Ben-Gurion Airport
http://www.ben-gurion-airport.co.il

Tel : 972-3-9710785
Fax : 972-3-9710939
Email : admin at iaa.gov.il

Usage of this email address or any email address at iaa.gov.il for the
purpose of sales pitches, SPAM or any other such unwanted garbage, is
illegal, and any person, whether corporate or alone doing so, will be
prosecuted to the fullest possible extent.

 

From ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU  Tue Jan  2 21:52:30 2001
From: ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU (Joe Acquisto)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 16:52:30 -0500
Subject: Converting from Static to Dynamic TCP/IP addresses
Message-ID: <sa520230.074@lan.newpaltz.edu>

It appears that site bit the dust.  Or something equally distasteful.

It may be sufficient to snapshot a before and after config, i.e.
snapshot a PC that is setup as static, change it to DHCP, (*do not*
restart) and snapshot again. (that would prevent some DHCP "info" key
values from being populated and forced onto each subsequent station).

Test this on a few, then let'er rip. errr, that is, roll it out slowly
under controlled conditions.

-----------------------------------------
Joe Acquisto
SUNY New Paltz
845-257-3134 (V)
845-257-6900 (F)
-----------------------------------------

>>> "Wojasinski, Bob" <WojasinB at BESTACCESS.COM> 01/02/01 04:14PM >>>
Group:

I'm in the process of converting our static IP addresses to dynamic
addresses.  On the Novell site they list a web site
www.zenworksmaster.com
that has a file that will automatically make the change on Win95/98/NT
machines. Unfortunately the site is down.  Does anybody else know where
I
can get this file or one like it?  I've found a couple but they only
work on
95/98 machines.  The plan is to use Zenworks to force run the file on
each
machine to cut down on the leg work.

Thanks!

Bob Wojasinski
CNE 5

 

From cdurnal at FWLAW.COM  Tue Jan  2 22:02:00 2001
From: cdurnal at FWLAW.COM (Chet Durnal)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 17:02:00 -0500
Subject: Groupwise Web Access Timeout
Message-ID: <sa51edc7.080@FWFS2>

After 20 minutes of inactivity, the GW web access times out (logs one out). This can be a pain when composing a lengthy e-mail message. Can this be changed? If so how/where?

Thanks

 

From PCatelinet at CGSH.COM  Tue Jan  2 22:47:39 2001
From: PCatelinet at CGSH.COM (Phil Catelinet)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 17:47:39 -0500
Subject: Move an App Object
Message-ID: <OFEE2ABFA2.E996FBDC-ON852569C8.007C9EF2@cgsh.com>

You can duplicate an existing app object in another OU by going to the
destination OU and selecting Create, Application object.  ZEN 2 brings up a
wizard which has "duplicate an existing object" as its third option.  You
select the object you're copying and it does all the same settings for you.
If you're moving an app I think you could then delete the original object
once the new one is created.

Phil


Philip E. Catelinet
Senior Network Analyst/Engineer
Cleary, Gottlieb, Steen & Hamilton
(212) 225-3201
pcatelinet at cgsh.com
http://www.cgsh.com




                    <NOVELL at LSV.S
                    YR.EDU>              To:     <NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU>
                                         cc:     (bcc: Phil Catelinet/NY/Cgsh)
                    01/02/2001           Subject:     Re: Move an App Object
                    04:47 PM
                    Please
                    respond to
                    NOVELL





In NWAdmin hilight the object and press F7.
Seems too simple I'm sure there must be more to your question.

Lester Bennett
Happy new Year everyone and welcome to the start of the Third Millenium






Mike Glassman - Admin <admin at IAA.GOV.IL> on 02/01/2001 07:51:47 PM

Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU>

To:   NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
cc:    (bcc: Lester Bennett/Treasury_QLD_GOV/AU)
Subject:  Move an App Object




All,

Anyone know of a simple and easy way to move an app object from one
container to another without having to recreate it ?

Mike Glassman
System & Security Admin
Israeli Airports Authority
Ben-Gurion Airport
http://www.ben-gurion-airport.co.il

Tel : 972-3-9710785
Fax : 972-3-9710939
Email : admin at iaa.gov.il

Usage of this email address or any email address at iaa.gov.il for the
purpose of sales pitches, SPAM or any other such unwanted garbage, is
illegal, and any person, whether corporate or alone doing so, will be
prosecuted to the fullest possible extent.

 

From shawn_rappaport at OTI.COM  Wed Jan  3 02:39:20 2001
From: shawn_rappaport at OTI.COM (Shawn R)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 21:39:20 -0500
Subject: Converting from Static to Dynamic TCP/IP addresses
In-Reply-To: <FB345665337AD411952000508B6D389801206AFD@mail.bestlock.com>
References: <FB345665337AD411952000508B6D389801206AFD@mail.bestlock.com>
Message-ID: <01010219373901.01084@opeth>

On Tuesday 02 January 2001 14:14, Wojasinski, Bob wrote:
> Group:
>
> I'm in the process of converting our static IP addresses to dynamic
> addresses.  On the Novell site they list a web site www.zenworksmaster.com
> that has a file that will automatically make the change on Win95/98/NT
> machines. Unfortunately the site is down.  Does anybody else know where I
> can get this file or one like it?  I've found a couple but they only work
> on 95/98 machines.  The plan is to use Zenworks to force run the file on
> each machine to cut down on the leg work.

Check out these sites:

http://www.ithowto.com/zenworks/ZENDHCP.htm
http://www.planetit.com/techcenters/docs/networks/expert/PIT20000816S0010
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q194/4/07.asp   (OK, so 
shoot me for posting a M$ URL ;))
http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/zenworks/trenches/tr_dhcp_switch_nt_zw.html
http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/zenworks/trenches/tr_staticip_to_dhcp2_zw.html
http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/zenworks/trenches/tr_staticip_to_dhcp_zw.html
http://feldman.org/admintool.shtml

HTH.

--Shawn

 

From admin at IAA.GOV.IL  Wed Jan  3 05:51:43 2001
From: admin at IAA.GOV.IL (Mike Glassman - Admin)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 00:51:43 -0500
Subject: Move an App Object
Message-ID: <7F4D39EF73659140A9DC38EB5FC87505486962@hobit.IAADOM>

Lester, Phil,

First.

The reason I asked, is because in Nwadmin I can't get the F7 (move) to work
on any of my app objects. Almost everything else works other then this.
Obviously, had it worked, I wouldn't have asked :)

Phils idea is one I thought about after sending the email, and works, so
that is how I am going to go.

Thanks,

Mike

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Catelinet [SMTP:PCatelinet at CGSH.COM]
> Sent: ? ????? 03 2001 0:48
> To:   NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
> Subject:      Re: Move an App Object
> 
> You can duplicate an existing app object in another OU by going to the
> destination OU and selecting Create, Application object.  ZEN 2 brings up
> a
> wizard which has "duplicate an existing object" as its third option.  You
> select the object you're copying and it does all the same settings for
> you.
> If you're moving an app I think you could then delete the original object
> once the new one is created.
> 
> Phil
> 
> 
> Philip E. Catelinet
> Senior Network Analyst/Engineer
> Cleary, Gottlieb, Steen & Hamilton
> (212) 225-3201
> pcatelinet at cgsh.com
> http://www.cgsh.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
>                     <NOVELL at LSV.S
>                     YR.EDU>              To:     <NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU>
>                                          cc:     (bcc: Phil
> Catelinet/NY/Cgsh)
>                     01/02/2001           Subject:     Re: Move an App
> Object
>                     04:47 PM
>                     Please
>                     respond to
>                     NOVELL
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> In NWAdmin hilight the object and press F7.
> Seems too simple I'm sure there must be more to your question.
> 
> Lester Bennett
> Happy new Year everyone and welcome to the start of the Third Millenium
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Mike Glassman - Admin <admin at IAA.GOV.IL> on 02/01/2001 07:51:47 PM
> 
> Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU>
> 
> To:   NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
> cc:    (bcc: Lester Bennett/Treasury_QLD_GOV/AU)
> Subject:  Move an App Object
> 
> 
> 
> 
> All,
> 
> Anyone know of a simple and easy way to move an app object from one
> container to another without having to recreate it ?
> 
> Mike Glassman
> System & Security Admin
> Israeli Airports Authority
> Ben-Gurion Airport
> http://www.ben-gurion-airport.co.il
> 
> Tel : 972-3-9710785
> Fax : 972-3-9710939
> Email : admin at iaa.gov.il
> 
> Usage of this email address or any email address at iaa.gov.il for the
> purpose of sales pitches, SPAM or any other such unwanted garbage, is
> illegal, and any person, whether corporate or alone doing so, will be
> prosecuted to the fullest possible extent.

 

From acquistj at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU  Wed Jan  3 06:31:21 2001
From: acquistj at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU (Joe Acquisto)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 01:31:21 -0500
Subject: Groupwise Web Access Timeout
Message-ID: <sa52390f.094@lan.newpaltz.edu>

It varies with the version of the gateway.  However, the setting in the
WA 5.5 (ep) does not seem to "take".
Accepts the setting, but still times out at the default.

If it is the EP version, I can post  it is tomorrow.  If someone else
has it handy, feel free.

joea/

>>> Chet Durnal <cdurnal at FWLAW.COM> 01/02/01 17:02 PM >>>
After 20 minutes of inactivity, the GW web access times out (logs one
out). This can be a pain when composing a lengthy e-mail message. Can
this be changed? If so how/where?

Thanks

 

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From Alar at MTK.UT.EE  Wed Jan  3 08:15:17 2001
From: Alar at MTK.UT.EE (Alar Pandis)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 03:15:17 -0500
Subject: TFTP solution for NW 5.1
Message-ID: <NBBBLEPANKOBBECLEKCICECGEOAA.Alar@mtk.ut.ee>

Hi!

Is some TFTP solution for NW 5.1? As I read in TID 10051219 NWFTPD does not
support TFTP, also  under NW 5.1 is not supported respective UNICON product
(see TID 2940506).
Or - may be some other solutions for TFTP using. Mine primary concern is
3Com switches software updating, I did this under NW 4.11 with UNICON TFTP.

More thanks,
Alar.

------------------------------------------------------
Alar Pandis
Computer Systems Operator
Faculty of Economics and Business Administration
Tartu University, Narva 4-B303, 51009
Tartu, ESTONIA
tel +372 7 376 316, fax +372 7 376 312
e-mail Alar at mtk.ut.ee
------------------------------------------------------

 

From acquistj at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU  Wed Jan  3 12:12:56 2001
From: acquistj at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU (Joe Acquisto)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 07:12:56 -0500
Subject: TFTP solution for NW 5.1
Message-ID: <sa52c1c2.095@lan.newpaltz.edu>

Why do you need a server based solution?  There are several (?) TFTP
solutions available that are PC (windows) based.

Will those not work for these updates?

joea/

>>> Alar Pandis <Alar at MTK.UT.EE> 01/03/01 03:15 AM >>>
Hi!

Is some TFTP solution for NW 5.1? As I read in TID 10051219 NWFTPD does
not
support TFTP, also  under NW 5.1 is not supported respective UNICON
product
(see TID 2940506).
Or - may be some other solutions for TFTP using. Mine primary concern is
3Com switches software updating, I did this under NW 4.11 with UNICON
TFTP.

More thanks,
Alar.

------------------------------------------------------
Alar Pandis
Computer Systems Operator
Faculty of Economics and Business Administration
Tartu University, Narva 4-B303, 51009
Tartu, ESTONIA
tel +372 7 376 316, fax +372 7 376 312
e-mail Alar at mtk.ut.ee
------------------------------------------------------

 

From jmeyrose at EXECPC.COM  Wed Jan  3 15:10:42 2001
From: jmeyrose at EXECPC.COM (~Jennifer Meyrose~)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:10:42 -0500
Subject: Rconsole question
In-Reply-To: <200101022014.f02KE2k87469@c.mx.execpc.com>
Message-ID: <LPBBJICNAOOLHJFBKINGAELNDJAA.jmeyrose@execpc.com>

Why do some users appear twice in rconsole when they are only logged in
once?  What does the asterisk mean?
We are running Netware 4.11.
Thanks,
JM

 

From PCatelinet at CGSH.COM  Wed Jan  3 15:24:06 2001
From: PCatelinet at CGSH.COM (Phil Catelinet)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:24:06 -0500
Subject: Rconsole question
Message-ID: <OF129D9EF3.791636A4-ON852569C9.00540DB5@cgsh.com>

I assume you mean in MONITOR when you're looking at a server console via
RCONSOLE.
The asterisk indicates that a user is authenticated to the server, but does
not necessarily mean that they have a logged-in, licensed connection.  The
user listing without the asterisk is the logged-in connection.  You will
see this behavior in both a single server environment and with multiple
servers.  Usually in a multi-server network, you will see users
authenticate to more than one server in the tree, while they only log into
one server.  The authenticated-only connections don't use up your licenses.

Phil


Philip E. Catelinet
Senior Network Analyst/Engineer
Cleary, Gottlieb, Steen & Hamilton
(212) 225-3201
pcatelinet at cgsh.com
http://www.cgsh.com




                    <NOVELL at LSV.S
                    YR.EDU>              To:     <NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU>
                                         cc:     (bcc: Phil Catelinet/NY/Cgsh)
                    01/03/2001           Subject:     Rconsole question
                    10:11 AM
                    Please
                    respond to
                    NOVELL





Why do some users appear twice in rconsole when they are only logged in
once?  What does the asterisk mean?
We are running Netware 4.11.
Thanks,
JM

 

From jas at DECT.COM  Wed Jan  3 15:58:27 2001
From: jas at DECT.COM (jas at DECT.COM)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:58:27 -0500
Subject: Bordermanager server locks up....?!!?
References: <61D5B3BA64A4D311A04A006008A6C64D0A3C9C@beluga.mdgi.com>
Message-ID: <00be01c0759d$fe8cf5e0$7c0c5e0a@jerrysw2k>

Stop overclocking it and see if the problem goes away.  That does seem like
it would be affected by the load.  You are probably gaining VERY little from
the increased clock speed.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Altmaier" <PAltmaier at MDGI.COM>
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
To: <NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: Bordermanager server locks up....?!!?


> The motherboard on these systems will support a 200Mhz non-MMX processor.
> I have had my 166 overclocked for the past 6 months with no problem.
>
> Phil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Heywood, IQX
> To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
> Sent: 12/30/00 2:12 AM
> Subject: Re: Bordermanager server locks up....?!!?
>
> What's wrong?
>
> No where near enough RAM.
> 6gig HDD that would be an IDE disk then... this will effect the
> processor
> and if its a recycled Prosignia 200 then the best processor it could
> have
> would be 166 Pentium.
>
> I have one client who insisted on using a recycled Prosignia 300 (that
> actually older than yours) with a P75 and 160 MD RAM and this has the
> same
> problems as you but even under light load.
>
> Verdict, get more RAM, and a SCSI HDD system and you might just be able
> to
> keep it going...
>
> Tim
> ************************************************
> Tim Heywood
> IQX Ltd.
> Scotland
> (God's Country)
>
> "Like a splinter in your mind... Driving you MAD"
> ************************************************
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gordon Grant" <ggrant at PENNINGTON.ORG>
> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
> To: <NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU>
> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 11:00 PM
> Subject: Bordermanager server locks up....?!!?
>
>
> > Out Bordermanager server works just fine w/out load (just a few users
> at a
> time). It has been up and running quite ok over the last 2 weeks (winter
> break).
> > But when students are here, it seems to lock almost every day. Just
> stops
> providing Internet access.
> > We have both our desktop browsers and our Groupwise internet email
> running
> through this BM server, so it is important to keep it going 7/24.
> > The server is a recycled Compaq, Prosignia 200. 82Mb ram, 6gig
> harddrive,
> Netware 5.x.
> > It chugs along ok, the cache works as it should... then it just stops
> responding to client browsers. I shut it down, clear all caches,
> restart,
> and it is ok again.
> > If anyone can advise me on what, where to look for what is ailing this
> thing, and what I might do to make it ok, I'd appreciate it.
> > The server did work quite alright for weeks (it was built at the end
> of
> this past summer), and only began to be contrary at the end of the
> November.
> No, didn't install any new anything on it. Just let it run. Once a week
> or
> so, downed it, cleared caches, restarted services. No obvious error
> messages. Just don't have a clue what is wrong with it!
> >
> > Thanks, and hope your New Year is a great one!
> >
> > Gordon Grant
> >

 

From gail at MAYA.ATH.UCONN.EDU  Wed Jan  3 16:19:26 2001
From: gail at MAYA.ATH.UCONN.EDU (Gail Chernosky)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 11:19:26 -0500
Subject: alfter installing 4.8 on nt2000 can only see one server
Message-ID: <1CA1D214D1@athletics.ath.uconn.edu>

I recently installed client 4.8 on an nt2000 workstation, but now I can
only see one Novell server (a 5.x server) out of about 50 on the
network. Does anyone know why?

Gail Chernosky


486-2800

 

From JRD at CC.USU.EDU  Wed Jan  3 16:25:36 2001
From: JRD at CC.USU.EDU (Joe Doupnik)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 11:25:36 -0500
Subject: alfter installing 4.8 on nt2000 can only see one server
Message-ID: <01JYGRUMORQA94G4TY@cc.usu.edu>

>I recently installed client 4.8 on an nt2000 workstation, but now I can
>only see one Novell server (a 5.x server) out of about 50 on the
>network. Does anyone know why?
>
>Gail Chernosky
>486-2800
-------
        Look at the Ethernet frame kinds being used, and the protocols
too (IP only or IP and IPX etc).
        Joe D.

 

From John at COASTAL.EDU  Wed Jan  3 16:36:57 2001
From: John at COASTAL.EDU (John Hanna)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 11:36:57 -0500
Subject: Unix-to-netware Print Services
Message-ID: <NBBBJICDILDKBEBJDBDJOELHCDAA.John@coastal.edu>

I have a Netware 4.11 network using Unix-to-network print services.  We have
been running this for years, but all of a sudden I have users that cannot
print from their unix accounts to a Netware queue anymore.  When I load
Unicon and view their account mappings, both the netware account and unix
accounts show in the list, but they do not show as being mapped together.
When I hit enter on either of them to map them, it then acts as if they were
mapped all along.  When I look at the list of users now, there is multiple
netware accounts listed for the user.  If I exit the view in unicon and load
it again, the whole scenario starts over again, each time adding another
duplicate netware account listed.  Deleting the affected netware account and
re-creating seems to remedy the problem, but this is happening to often with
too many users for this to be feasible.  I suspect a file is being
corrupted.  Is there a repair I can run on the NIS files?  Anyone have any
ideas?

Thanks in advance,
John




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
John Hanna
Network Services Manager
Coastal Carolina University
PO Box 261954
Conway, SC  29528-6054
Phone:(843)349-2150  Fax: (843)349-2990
Email: John at coastal.edu
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

From wallewek at KMSI.NET  Wed Jan  3 19:23:01 2001
From: wallewek at KMSI.NET (wallewek at KMSI.NET)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 14:23:01 -0500
Subject: Memory requirements in 5.x -- cache buffers v/s virtual memory
In-Reply-To: <01JYFA34IZFM94G7RB@cc.usu.edu>
References: <01JYFA34IZFM94G7RB@cc.usu.edu>
Message-ID: <5lt65tcqcd4u7e9681l0k3ki6arug2q90v@4ax.com>

On Tue, 2 Jan 2001 07:46:30 -0600, you wrote:

>>I've just upgraded a 5-user NetWare Small Business system from NW4SB to
>>NW51SBS.  It has 256MB of RAM and about 8GB of RAM.

Oops, I meant 8GB of disk (guess that was obvious :-\).  Mirrored, FWIW.
One thing, though, I think it's still running 4K allocation units.  Looks
like I'm stuck doing a couple of volume rebuilds to go to 64K, which should
help a bit.  Any particular reason to go NSS on a small, low-load system?

>>I'm a little bit surprised at what happened to the free cache buffers.
>>They were hovering in the 70%-plus range, and are now down around 50%.  =
>>I'm
>>nervous about that.  Do I need to worry?
>>
>>I haven't done a rigorous search to see where it's gone, yet, but a quick
>>scan didn't show anything obvious.  Killing X didn't help.  I don't =
>>recall
>>anything else in NW5 that was supposed to eat RAM like that. =20
>>
>>I got to thinking... does NetWare 5's virtual memory change that 50/70%
>>rule of thumb that is so vital for NW4?
>>
>>Oh, a tip for anybody else doing the upgrade:  if you have any hardware
>>(other than a PS/2 mouse) configured on IRQ12 on NW4, there's a good =
>>chance
>>your NW5 upgrade will fail rather messily.  It's probably dependent on
>>exactly how the motherboard handles its mouse port.  It cost me several
>>hours of sleep.
>>/kenw
>>Ken Wallewein
>>Calgary, Alberta
>>kenw at kmsi.net
>--------
>        Use Monitor to see which things are consuming memory. DS itself
>can do so as well as NSS volumes. This has nothing to do with virtual
>memory / swap files.
>        Joe D.

Did that last night.  Looked like roughly 25% software, 25% DS, and 50%
cache, as close as I can recall -- not sure I recall correctly; I'll check
again when I go back on site.  I didn't think it was really clear, though.

But I think you have missed my point about the virtual memory.  If the
system can swap idle memory (which would not usually be cache -- that
wouldn't make much sense) to disk, one would expect the requirement for
high percentages of RAM dedicated to cache to be reduced, would one not?  

Now that I think of it, since Monitor doesn't seem to account for virtual
memory in its RAM allocation displays, could one assume that something
that's swapped out would show reduced RAM usage?  That doesn't make much
sense either...

Re Joe A's comment, I certainly _hope_ this is normal.  This machine has no
free RAM slots, and it's running 8x32MB ECC SIMMs.  I got to thinking: if
you double the RAM in a machine with 50% free cache buffers, although you
tripple the amount of free cache buffers, you only increase the precentage
free by 25%.  It's just not fair ;-P.  
Ken Wallewein
Calgary, Alberta
kenw at kmsi.net

 

From wallewek at KMSI.NET  Wed Jan  3 19:32:08 2001
From: wallewek at KMSI.NET (wallewek at KMSI.NET)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 14:32:08 -0500
Subject: SBS upgrade gotcha: 4.x -> 5.x _reduces_ licenses
Message-ID: <m1v65tkijthcmt0eqpqvf37ghvu7lbap91@4ax.com>

On the SCS 4.1 -> 5.1 upgrade, my client has had the unhappy suprise of
having to buy more licenses because SBS no longer allows extra licenses for
print servers.  What really stinks about this is that there was no advance
notice -- just install the upgrade, and surprise!  This is not how I prefer
to treat clients.

I talked to several people at Novell -- wasting a _lot_ of time on hold,
etc. -- and the best answer I got is that the managers in charge of SBS are
on vacation and nothing can be done until they get back.  The client can't
wait; he's ordered extra licenses.

Novell gets coal in the stocking for this.

/kenw
Ken Wallewein
Calgary, Alberta
kenw at kmsi.net

 

From KANFERM at WILLISTON.K12.VT.US  Wed Jan  3 20:01:36 2001
From: KANFERM at WILLISTON.K12.VT.US (Mike Kanfer)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 15:01:36 -0500
Subject: NDPS
Message-ID: <sa533e8a.082@WSDGW.williston.k12.vt.us>

We just moved NDPS services to a new NW5.1, SP2A server.  Some of the printers will not print.  We receive an error message that says "there was an error writing to the port.  The problem was due to an unknown system error."

We have deleted and recreated the printer to no avail.  Most of the printers work fine.

TIA

 

From ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU  Wed Jan  3 20:05:32 2001
From: ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU (Joe Acquisto)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 15:05:32 -0500
Subject: NDPS
Message-ID: <sa533fb3.050@lan.newpaltz.edu>

By delete and recreate, you mean at the NDS level, or at the w/s level?
Try deleting and readding via Printer manger at the w/s.

-----------------------------------------
Joe Acquisto
SUNY New Paltz
845-257-3134 (V)
845-257-6900 (F)
-----------------------------------------

>>> Mike Kanfer <KANFERM at WILLISTON.K12.VT.US> 01/03/01 03:00PM >>>
We just moved NDPS services to a new NW5.1, SP2A server.  Some of the
printers will not print.  We receive an error message that says "there
was an error writing to the port.  The problem was due to an unknown
system error."

We have deleted and recreated the printer to no avail.  Most of the
printers work fine.

TIA

 

From bdurland at MRPCAP.COM  Wed Jan  3 20:09:51 2001
From: bdurland at MRPCAP.COM (Bud Durland)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 15:09:51 -0500
Subject: SBS upgrade gotcha: 4.x -> 5.x _reduces_ licenses
References: <m1v65tkijthcmt0eqpqvf37ghvu7lbap91@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <3A5387CF.DC4BA05@mrpcap.com>

Wouldn't running the printer servers in RPRINTER mode have removed the
requirement for licenses?  AFAIK, PSERVER.NLM doesn't require an
additional license on the server where it's running.

wallewek at KMSI.NET wrote:
>
> On the SCS 4.1 -> 5.1 upgrade, my client has had the unhappy suprise of
> having to buy more licenses because SBS no longer allows extra licenses for
> print servers.  What really stinks about this is that there was no advance
> notice -- just install the upgrade, and surprise!  This is not how I prefer
> to treat clients.
>
> I talked to several people at Novell -- wasting a _lot_ of time on hold,
> etc. -- and the best answer I got is that the managers in charge of SBS are
> on vacation and nothing can be done until they get back.  The client can't
> wait; he's ordered extra licenses.
>
> Novell gets coal in the stocking for this.
>
> /kenw
> Ken Wallewein
> Calgary, Alberta
> kenw at kmsi.net

--
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Remember "I" before "E", except in Budweiser.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Bud Durland, CNE                                   Mold-Rite Plastics
Network Administrator                           http://www.mrpcap.com
---------------------------------------------------------------------

 

From BROWNR at LDCORP.COM  Wed Jan  3 20:21:59 2001
From: BROWNR at LDCORP.COM (BROWNR)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 15:21:59 -0500
Subject: Zenworks on multiple servers
Message-ID: <000B4A8F.C21235@ldcorp.com>

I would like to install things such as NAL.exe on a second server.  When I
installed it on the first server I simply used the ZENworks starter pack.  If I
recall correctly it also added objects to the tree.  Can I run the starter pack
install and get the needed apps installed on the second server without getting
duplicate objects in the tree?  Or is there an easier way to get these apps onto
the other server?

Thanks,

Robert Brown
MIS Coordinator
Louis Dreyfus Corporation
208 South Main Street
New Madrid, MO  63869
p: 573-748-9371
f:  573-748-9386

 

From bsach at CCCU.COM  Wed Jan  3 20:29:46 2001
From: bsach at CCCU.COM (Bruce Sach)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 15:29:46 -0500
Subject: Zenworks on multiple servers
In-Reply-To: <000B4A8F.C21235@ldcorp.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBLMAGLALJKEFKFJIAGEHJDBAA.bsach@cccu.com>

When you do the install one boxes to check/uncheck is whether you want to
extend the schema.

Bruce

-----Original Message-----
From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of
BROWNR
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 1:11 PM
To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Zenworks on multiple servers


I would like to install things such as NAL.exe on a second server.  When I
installed it on the first server I simply used the ZENworks starter pack.
If I
recall correctly it also added objects to the tree.  Can I run the starter
pack
install and get the needed apps installed on the second server without
getting
duplicate objects in the tree?  Or is there an easier way to get these apps
onto
the other server?

Thanks,

Robert Brown
MIS Coordinator
Louis Dreyfus Corporation
208 South Main Street
New Madrid, MO  63869
p: 573-748-9371
f:  573-748-9386

 

From geoffc at YORKU.CA  Wed Jan  3 20:31:48 2001
From: geoffc at YORKU.CA (Geoffrey Carman)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 15:31:48 -0500
Subject: Zenworks on multiple servers
In-Reply-To: <000B4A8F.C21235@ldcorp.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.31.0101031530480.15997-100000@sunrise.ccs.yorku.ca>

On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, BROWNR wrote:

> I would like to install things such as NAL.exe on a second server.  When I
> installed it on the first server I simply used the ZENworks starter pack.  If I
> recall correctly it also added objects to the tree.  Can I run the starter pack
> install and get the needed apps installed on the second server without getting
> duplicate objects in the tree?  Or is there an easier way to get these apps onto
> the other server?

        When you run the install it asks you which components you want to
install...  I.e. Desktop admin, Remote Control (Not in starter pack, but
as an example).  Then it asks if you want Files, Schema, Application
Objects, Etc...  So yes, you can specify only files..


---
Geoffrey Carman
York University
geoffc at yorku.ca

 

From Lester.Bennett at TREASURY.QLD.GOV.AU  Wed Jan  3 22:37:10 2001
From: Lester.Bennett at TREASURY.QLD.GOV.AU (Lester.Bennett at TREASURY.QLD.GOV.AU)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 17:37:10 -0500
Subject: Move an App Object
Message-ID: <4A2569C9.007C337C.00@nt_trs_16.treasury.qld.gov.au>

Mike,

You must have something strange happening as we have no problem using F7 to
move application objects from one OU to another.
Sorry, I don't know why it doesn't work for you though.

Lester




Mike Glassman - Admin <admin at IAA.GOV.IL> on 03/01/2001 03:52:39 PM

Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU>

To:   NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
cc:    (bcc: Lester Bennett/Treasury_QLD_GOV/AU)
Subject:  Re: Move an App Object




Lester, Phil,

First.

The reason I asked, is because in Nwadmin I can't get the F7 (move) to work
on any of my app objects. Almost everything else works other then this.
Obviously, had it worked, I wouldn't have asked :)

Phils idea is one I thought about after sending the email, and works, so
that is how I am going to go.

Thanks,

Mike

 

From mkoll at USOL.COM  Wed Jan  3 23:23:26 2001
From: mkoll at USOL.COM (Mike Kollmorgan)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 18:23:26 -0500
Subject: Cluster Services vs stand by server
Message-ID: <NEBBKAMCKPDKNGGIMODJAECGCEAA.mkoll@usol.com>

I have the opportunity to set up a site with two Novell 5.1 servers.  The
site is 24x7 and needs to be up at all times.  Stand by Server would appear
to be the least expensive way to go.  Can anyone tell me why I would want
cluster services instead?  Do I need two server licenses to have Cluster
Services running?  The site is 50 user.  Do I need a 50 user license for
each server when running Cluster Services?

If I use Stand by Server do I have to have an extra NIC in each server to
connect them together or can I use the current NICs.  I will have 2 NICS in
each server with load balancing.

Thanks
Mike

 

From MJKRD1 at AOL.COM  Thu Jan  4 00:03:36 2001
From: MJKRD1 at AOL.COM (Mike Kanfer)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 19:03:36 -0500
Subject: NDPS
Message-ID: <75.e6dbe46.278517c6@aol.com>

We've tried deleting the printer at the ws with no luck.

 

From admin at IAA.GOV.IL  Thu Jan  4 08:34:59 2001
From: admin at IAA.GOV.IL (Mike Glassman - Admin)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 03:34:59 -0500
Subject: SBS upgrade gotcha: 4.x -> 5.x _reduces_ licenses
Message-ID: <7F4D39EF73659140A9DC38EB5FC87505486985@hobit.IAADOM>

Just to get this clear....Are you talking about Standby Server for Netware ?

If so, the only issue that SBS has with licenses is the validation stage.

Other then that, it has nothing at all to do with licensing as far as I
know.

If your talking about something else, disregard me at all :)

Mike

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wallewek at KMSI.NET [SMTP:wallewek at KMSI.NET]
> Sent: ? ????? 03 2001 21:32
> To:   NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
> Subject:      SBS upgrade gotcha: 4.x -> 5.x _reduces_ licenses
> 
> On the SCS 4.1 -> 5.1 upgrade, my client has had the unhappy suprise of
> having to buy more licenses because SBS no longer allows extra licenses
> for
> print servers.  What really stinks about this is that there was no advance
> notice -- just install the upgrade, and surprise!  This is not how I
> prefer
> to treat clients.
> 
> I talked to several people at Novell -- wasting a _lot_ of time on hold,
> etc. -- and the best answer I got is that the managers in charge of SBS
> are
> on vacation and nothing can be done until they get back.  The client can't
> wait; he's ordered extra licenses.
> 
> Novell gets coal in the stocking for this.
> 
> /kenw
> Ken Wallewein
> Calgary, Alberta
> kenw at kmsi.net

 

From admin at IAA.GOV.IL  Thu Jan  4 08:49:25 2001
From: admin at IAA.GOV.IL (Mike Glassman - Admin)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 03:49:25 -0500
Subject: Cluster Services vs stand by server
Message-ID: <7F4D39EF73659140A9DC38EB5FC87505486986@hobit.IAADOM>

OK. Here goes.

SBS needs :

One additional server that does not have to be the same hardware, but needs
(from experience) the same amount of memory and disk space (obviously). The
second (Standby) server can also have it's own SYS disk in which case it is
called a Utility Server. Each server has it's OWN disk system.

The pro's of having a US as apposed to a non Us server, is for patch
upgrades, where in the US case, you can patch each server individualy and
then need to manually copy files from one directory to another (nwserver to
standby), whereas in the second case, of no SYS on the second server, you
need to apply patches to one, not reboot (which is a problem at time since
some patches do that for you), then use the tool that comes with the latest
version of SBS to duplicate the changes between the servers.

There is quite a bit more to it then this, but that's the gyst.

Next, it is allways advisable to have a seperate NIC for the SBS synch
unless you don't care to kill your network with remirroring data (not
advisable at all), so you do need at least one aditional NIC. The NIC must
be configured at least as 100MB and preferable at full duplex. Make sure if
it's the same kind of NIC as your other ones, that all NIC's are configured
the same.

Again, there's a lot more to this and this isn't the place.

Regarding Clustering services for Netware.

Minimum server need is 2 servers, both can be different, disks should be on
an external device, each server has it's own SYS, should have the same
amount of memory. You can get to up to 72 servers (with aditive licenses and
a lot of money).

The licnesing changes, from standard netware to clustering licenses. This
doesn't seem to effect the actuall licenses, but adds the option for
clustering. You do not need a seperate 50 user license pack per server, but
you will only be able to use 50 users on either server, or, up to a total of
50 on both, depending how you set the servers up.

I suggest you read up on both products.

SBS can be found (fully working 30 day demo) on www.legato.com with manual
(read it).

Clustering look under www.novell.com

By the way, I do not know if SBS will work with an external disk system
shared by both servers, in fact, I doubt it will due to the simple factor of
having each server need it's own disk for the mirroring.

HTH,

Mike

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Kollmorgan [SMTP:mkoll at USOL.COM]
> Sent: ? ????? 04 2001 1:41
> To:   NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
> Subject:      Cluster Services vs stand by server
> 
> I have the opportunity to set up a site with two Novell 5.1 servers.  The
> site is 24x7 and needs to be up at all times.  Stand by Server would
> appear
> to be the least expensive way to go.  Can anyone tell me why I would want
> cluster services instead?  Do I need two server licenses to have Cluster
> Services running?  The site is 50 user.  Do I need a 50 user license for
> each server when running Cluster Services?
> 
> If I use Stand by Server do I have to have an extra NIC in each server to
> connect them together or can I use the current NICs.  I will have 2 NICS
> in
> each server with load balancing.
> 
> Thanks
> Mike

 

From M.A.Johnston at SOTON.AC.UK  Thu Jan  4 10:59:06 2001
From: M.A.Johnston at SOTON.AC.UK (M.A.Johnston at SOTON.AC.UK)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 05:59:06 -0500
Subject: ZEN 3 Question
Message-ID: <3DB5B3FF99ADD31194FB0090271BAA2914F937@YODA>

Try regedit /?

It is something like regedit /R:c:\windows\user.dat /L:c:\windows\system.dat myreg.reg

Good luck and if you get nowhere, I will look this up for you.

Mark.

--
Mark Johnston - Systems Support & Development
Computing Services, University of Southampton.

Ph: +44 (0)23 8059 5513
Fa: +44 (0)23 8059 3939


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roland Kool [mailto:columbo at dds.nl]
> Sent: 24 December 2000 13:40
> To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
> Subject: Re: ZEN 3 Question
>
>
> > On Sat, 23 Dec 2000, Roland Kool wrote:
> > > This sounds VERY interesting. Where exaclty can I get a DOS based
> > > regedit? Will it also work from ie. DOS 6.22? If this
> tool can handle
> > > what I'm looking for, the problem seems to be solved :-)
> >
> > When you invode regedit.exe with a command line parameter
> of the .reg file
> > you want to apply to the registry, it works in DOS.
> >
> Ok, I've booted the Windows in "Command Prompt Only" mode. I enter
> REGEDIT myreg.reg on the command line and it it errors out with the
> following line: Unable to open registry (14) - c:\windows\user.dat.
> When I try to boot with an old DOS version, regedit complains about
> an incorrect DOS version.
> So does regedit only work from a DOS box within windows? Or am I
> missing something?
>
> Thanks and happy holidays,
>
> Roland
>
>
> > Enjoy!
> > Mike
> > --
> > Michael Weaver  (706)542-6468     weaver at arches.uga.edu
> > UCNS Network Specialist           LAN Support Group
> > University of Georgia, Athens Ga.         )O(
> > Public PGP key: http://www.arches.uga.edu/~weaver/pgp.html
>

 

From M.A.Johnston at SOTON.AC.UK  Thu Jan  4 11:21:50 2001
From: M.A.Johnston at SOTON.AC.UK (M.A.Johnston at SOTON.AC.UK)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 06:21:50 -0500
Subject: Memory requirements in 5.x -- cache buffers v/s virtual memor
              y
Message-ID: <3DB5B3FF99ADD31194FB0090271BAA2914F938@YODA>

There is a memory leak in POLIMGR.NLM on servers that do not have many users logging into them. I believe this to be fixed in sp2a, but there is a separate fix for this.

Unfortunately, this NLM does not show up in the list of memory resources consumed by NLMs in MONITOR, but is does make an appearance in Portal.

Worth checking, but you would see these values dropping over a couple of days if this was your fault.

Portal's great for finding these faults though.

Mark.

--
Mark Johnston - Systems Support & Development
Computing Services, University of Southampton.

Ph: +44 (0)23 8059 5513
Fa: +44 (0)23 8059 3939


> -----Original Message-----
> From: wallewek at KMSI.NET [mailto:wallewek at KMSI.NET]
> Sent: 02 January 2001 05:25
> To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
> Subject: Memory requirements in 5.x -- cache buffers v/s
> virtual memory
>
>
> I've just upgraded a 5-user NetWare Small Business system
> from NW4SB to
> NW51SBS.  It has 256MB of RAM and about 8GB of RAM.
>
> I'm a little bit surprised at what happened to the free cache buffers.
> They were hovering in the 70%-plus range, and are now down
> around 50%.  I'm
> nervous about that.  Do I need to worry?
>
> I haven't done a rigorous search to see where it's gone, yet,
> but a quick
> scan didn't show anything obvious.  Killing X didn't help.  I
> don't recall
> anything else in NW5 that was supposed to eat RAM like that.
>
> I got to thinking... does NetWare 5's virtual memory change
> that 50/70%
> rule of thumb that is so vital for NW4?
>
> Oh, a tip for anybody else doing the upgrade:  if you have
> any hardware
> (other than a PS/2 mouse) configured on IRQ12 on NW4, there's
> a good chance
> your NW5 upgrade will fail rather messily.  It's probably dependent on
> exactly how the motherboard handles its mouse port.  It cost
> me several
> hours of sleep.
>
> /kenw
> Ken Wallewein
> Calgary, Alberta
> kenw at kmsi.net
>

 

From M.A.Johnston at SOTON.AC.UK  Thu Jan  4 11:25:38 2001
From: M.A.Johnston at SOTON.AC.UK (M.A.Johnston at SOTON.AC.UK)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 06:25:38 -0500
Subject: NDPS
Message-ID: <3DB5B3FF99ADD31194FB0090271BAA2914F939@YODA>

There is a recently released patch for NDPS that is newer than all the service packs. Check TID 2958227

It doesn't list the specific fault you are having, but may be worth applying just in case.

Mark.

--
Mark Johnston - Systems Support & Development
Computing Services, University of Southampton.

Ph: +44 (0)23 8059 5513
Fa: +44 (0)23 8059 3939


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Kanfer [mailto:KANFERM at WILLISTON.K12.VT.US]
> Sent: 03 January 2001 20:00
> To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
> Subject: NDPS
>
>
> We just moved NDPS services to a new NW5.1, SP2A server.
> Some of the printers will not print.  We receive an error
> message that says "there was an error writing to the port.
> The problem was due to an unknown system error."
>
> We have deleted and recreated the printer to no avail.  Most
> of the printers work fine.
>
> TIA
>

 

From M.A.Johnston at SOTON.AC.UK  Thu Jan  4 11:34:11 2001
From: M.A.Johnston at SOTON.AC.UK (M.A.Johnston at SOTON.AC.UK)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 06:34:11 -0500
Subject: Rconsole question
Message-ID: <3DB5B3FF99ADD31194FB0090271BAA2914F93A@YODA>

This TID explains roughly why this is. There is a better one, but I couldn't find it again.

http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/tidfinder.cgi?10013518

Mark.

--
Mark Johnston - Systems Support & Development
Computing Services, University of Southampton.

Ph: +44 (0)23 8059 5513
Fa: +44 (0)23 8059 3939


> -----Original Message-----
> From: ~Jennifer Meyrose~ [mailto:jmeyrose at EXECPC.COM]
> Sent: 03 January 2001 15:12
> To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
> Subject: Rconsole question
>
>
> Why do some users appear twice in rconsole when they are only
> logged in
> once?  What does the asterisk mean?
> We are running Netware 4.11.
> Thanks,
> JM
>

 

From edunne at MATHS.KST.DIT.IE  Thu Jan  4 12:46:15 2001
From: edunne at MATHS.KST.DIT.IE (Eoin Dunne)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 07:46:15 -0500
Subject: Memory requirements in 5.x -- cache buffers v/s virtual memory
Message-ID: <01JYID4F3V8Y9AXTBI@mail.dit.ie>

Hi,

For 8Gb of disk space, I think you'd be better off sticking with traditional
volumes. NSS doesn't work on SYS, doesn't support disk quotas,
compression, disk mirroring or TTS. I have a traditional 40Gb volume
which is (touch wood) working away happily.
As regards memory, I found that DS8 (8.59) eats up cache buffers and
you'll suffer high CPU utilization if DS buffers reaches their max limit.
Check the stats in the Console monitor -> General information ->
Directory cache buffers. Also watch out for bindary logins from
users/printers as that will have an impact.

Good luck,

Eoin.

> On Tue, 2 Jan 2001 07:46:30 -0600, you wrote:
>
> >>I've just upgraded a 5-user NetWare Small Business system from NW4SB to
> >>NW51SBS.  It has 256MB of RAM and about 8GB of RAM.
>
> Oops, I meant 8GB of disk (guess that was obvious :-\).  Mirrored, FWIW.
> One thing, though, I think it's still running 4K allocation units.  Looks
> like I'm stuck doing a couple of volume rebuilds to go to 64K, which
> should help a bit.  Any particular reason to go NSS on a small, low-load
> system?
>
> >>I'm a little bit surprised at what happened to the free cache buffers.
> >>They were hovering in the 70%-plus range, and are now down around 50%.
> >>= I'm nervous about that.  Do I need to worry?
> >>
> >>I haven't done a rigorous search to see where it's gone, yet, but a
> >>quick scan didn't show anything obvious.  Killing X didn't help.  I
> >>don't = recall anything else in NW5 that was supposed to eat RAM like
> >>that. =20
> >>
> >>I got to thinking... does NetWare 5's virtual memory change that 50/70%
> >>rule of thumb that is so vital for NW4?
> >>
> >>Oh, a tip for anybody else doing the upgrade:  if you have any hardware
> >>(other than a PS/2 mouse) configured on IRQ12 on NW4, there's a good =
> >>chance your NW5 upgrade will fail rather messily.  It's probably
> >>dependent on exactly how the motherboard handles its mouse port.  It
> >>cost me several hours of sleep. /kenw Ken Wallewein Calgary, Alberta
> >>kenw at kmsi.net
> >--------
> >        Use Monitor to see which things are consuming memory. DS itself
> >can do so as well as NSS volumes. This has nothing to do with virtual
> >memory / swap files.
> >        Joe D.
>
> Did that last night.  Looked like roughly 25% software, 25% DS, and 50%
> cache, as close as I can recall -- not sure I recall correctly; I'll check
> again when I go back on site.  I didn't think it was really clear, though.
>
> But I think you have missed my point about the virtual memory.  If the
> system can swap idle memory (which would not usually be cache -- that
> wouldn't make much sense) to disk, one would expect the requirement for
> high percentages of RAM dedicated to cache to be reduced, would one not?
>
> Now that I think of it, since Monitor doesn't seem to account for virtual
> memory in its RAM allocation displays, could one assume that something
> that's swapped out would show reduced RAM usage?  That doesn't make much
> sense either...
>
> Re Joe A's comment, I certainly _hope_ this is normal.  This machine has
> no free RAM slots, and it's running 8x32MB ECC SIMMs.  I got to thinking:
> if you double the RAM in a machine with 50% free cache buffers, although
> you tripple the amount of free cache buffers, you only increase the
> precentage free by 25%.  It's just not fair ;-P.  Ken Wallewein Calgary,
> Alberta kenw at kmsi.net
>



**********************************************************************
Eoin Dunne,                         edunne at maths.kst.dit.ie
Department of Computer Science,     Tel: 353-1-402 4604
Dublin Institute of Technology,     Fax: 353-1-402 4994
Kevin Street, Dublin 8,  Ireland.

 

From M.A.Johnston at SOTON.AC.UK  Thu Jan  4 13:24:02 2001
From: M.A.Johnston at SOTON.AC.UK (M.A.Johnston at SOTON.AC.UK)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 08:24:02 -0500
Subject: Memory requirements in 5.x -- cache buffers v/s virtual memor
              y
Message-ID: <3DB5B3FF99ADD31194FB0090271BAA2914F93C@YODA>

> NSS
> doesn't work on SYS

TRUE

> doesn't support disk quotas

FALSE - Recent service packs have addressed this.

> compression

TRUE

> disk mirroring

FALSE - Look up Virtual Device Partitions. They are confusing but quite useful.

> or TTS

TRUE - I believe this is only the reason that they have not permitted the SYS volume to reside on an NSS partition yet. I heard that Novell were looking into this, but that was when NSS was first released and I have not heard any recent update.

Mark.

--
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Computing Services, University of Southampton.

Ph: +44 (0)23 8059 5513
Fa: +44 (0)23 8059 3939

 

From acquistj at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU  Thu Jan  4 13:25:24 2001
From: acquistj at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU (Joe Acquisto)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 08:25:24 -0500
Subject: SBS upgrade gotcha: 4.x -> 5.x _reduces_ licenses
Message-ID: <sa542e74.043@lan.newpaltz.edu>

If it is print servers doing the nasty to you, and they are the Jetport
sort of thing,  then you could reconfigure them, if they allow, to use
IP (LPR)  and set them up as NDPS deals, which could service existing
queues.

You would also have to "undo" their Netware confguration, in the legacy
printing sense, so there is no attempt to advertise or connect to a
server.

That should allow printing to work without "attaching" to a server and
consuming a license.

joea/

>>> <wallewek at KMSI.NET> 01/03/01 14:33 PM >>>
On the SCS 4.1 -> 5.1 upgrade, my client has had the unhappy suprise of
having to buy more licenses because SBS no longer allows extra licenses
for
print servers.  What really stinks about this is that there was no
advance
notice -- just install the upgrade, and surprise!  This is not how I
prefer
to treat clients.

I talked to several people at Novell -- wasting a _lot_ of time on hold,
etc. -- and the best answer I got is that the managers in charge of SBS
are
on vacation and nothing can be done until they get back.  The client
can't
wait; he's ordered extra licenses.

Novell gets coal in the stocking for this.

/kenw
Ken Wallewein
Calgary, Alberta
kenw at kmsi.net

 

From storey at LOUISVILLE.EDU  Thu Jan  4 14:26:17 2001
From: storey at LOUISVILLE.EDU (Randall J. Storey)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 09:26:17 -0500
Subject: Disaster Recovery
Message-ID: <sa5441b8.043@gwise.louisville.edu>

NetWare 3.12 server.

Mirrored hard drives with one NetWare partition only, and one volume only  ...  the hard drives were unmirrored, and subsequently the volume was deleted on both.  One of these hard drives has not been touched since the volume was deleted.  Is there any utility to recover the files from this drive?  Preferably as the original volume, but I'll settle for what I can get!

Randall Storey
UofL Industrial Engineering
502/852-1691, FAX -5633

 

From skurz at INFONOLOGY.COM  Thu Jan  4 14:39:51 2001
From: skurz at INFONOLOGY.COM (Kurz, Steve)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 09:39:51 -0500
Subject: Disaster Recovery
Message-ID: <9370BE0D1880D311A0BB00508B7150FBB5436D@EXNOR>

Randall,
There are various services for data recovery on a NetWare volume, but they
are not inexpensive. One of them that I have used is OnTrack
http://www.ontrack.com/, but I am sure that there are others. Good Luck!

Steve Kurz


-----Original Message-----
From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of
Randall J. Storey
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 9:26 AM
To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Disaster Recovery


NetWare 3.12 server.

Mirrored hard drives with one NetWare partition only, and one volume only
...  the hard drives were unmirrored, and subsequently the volume was
deleted on both.  One of these hard drives has not been touched since the
volume was deleted.  Is there any utility to recover the files from this
drive?  Preferably as the original volume, but I'll settle for what I can
get!

Randall Storey
UofL Industrial Engineering
502/852-1691, FAX -5633

 

From NPOLANCO at URC-CHS.COM  Thu Jan  4 15:34:43 2001
From: NPOLANCO at URC-CHS.COM (NORBERTO POLANCO)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 10:34:43 -0500
Subject: FTP problem  on Novell 5.1 SP1
Message-ID: <sa54512a.042@URC-FIREWALL>

Have anyone install FTP on a Novell 5.1 with SP1?

We are having a little problem with it. We have 5 servers one is running BorderManager 3.5 firewall and the FTP server. When we download any file from any server other than the one that is running the FTP server we lose the format in any document.

Do anybody have any idea was going on?


*************************************************************
Norberto Polanco
Network Manager
University Research CO., LLC
7200 Wisconsin Ave. Suite 600
Bethesda, MD 20814
Tel: 301-941-8555
Fax: 301-941-8650
Internet Address: Npolanco at urc-chs.com 
Home Page: http://WWW.URC-CHS.COM 
*************************************************************

 

From DMaunder at MIDNIGHTOIL.COM.AU  Thu Jan  4 15:52:38 2001
From: DMaunder at MIDNIGHTOIL.COM.AU (Daryl Maunder)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 10:52:38 -0500
Subject: SBS upgrade gotcha: 4.x -> 5.x _reduces_ licenses
Message-ID: <sa553243.098@mail.midnightoil.com.au>

The other gotcha I found after an upgrade for one of my clients going from SBS4.2 to SBS5.1 is that the Faxware license included goes from a 2-port version to a 1-port version. Calls to both the Australian distributor of Tobit and to Novell drew disbelief from both, but eventually they confirmed that it was true. Apparently, Tobit decided that few people were using the 2 ports. Bad luck for those that were. 

DM


>>> <wallewek at KMSI.NET> 01/03/01 14:33 PM >>>
On the SCS 4.1 -> 5.1 upgrade, my client has had the unhappy suprise of
having to buy more licenses because SBS no longer allows extra licenses
for
print servers.  What really stinks about this is that there was no
advance
notice -- just install the upgrade, and surprise!  This is not how I
prefer
to treat clients.

I talked to several people at Novell -- wasting a _lot_ of time on hold,
etc. -- and the best answer I got is that the managers in charge of SBS
are
on vacation and nothing can be done until they get back.  The client
can't
wait; he's ordered extra licenses.

Novell gets coal in the stocking for this.

/kenw
Ken Wallewein
Calgary, Alberta
kenw at kmsi.net
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From diego at QUALITYWARE.COM.BR  Thu Jan  4 16:20:05 2001
From: diego at QUALITYWARE.COM.BR (Diego D. Rossetto)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 11:20:05 -0500
Subject: FTP problem  on Novell 5.1 SP1
References: <sa54512a.042@URC-FIREWALL>
Message-ID: <3A54A312.57E40E97@qualityware.com.br>

Norberto,

        What do you mean with lose the format ?

        Have you tried downloading files in binary ?  Use "bin" command before
the " get " command.

        Diego D.

NORBERTO POLANCO wrote:
>
> Have anyone install FTP on a Novell 5.1 with SP1?
>
> We are having a little problem with it. We have 5 servers one is running BorderManager 3.5 firewall and the FTP server. When we download any file from any server other than the one that is running the FTP server we lose the format in any document.
>
> Do anybody have any idea was going on?
>
> *************************************************************
> Norberto Polanco
> Network Manager
> University Research CO., LLC
> 7200 Wisconsin Ave. Suite 600
> Bethesda, MD 20814
> Tel: 301-941-8555
> Fax: 301-941-8650
> Internet Address: Npolanco at urc-chs.com
> Home Page: http://WWW.URC-CHS.COM
> *************************************************************

 

From ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU  Thu Jan  4 16:20:29 2001
From: ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU (Joe Acquisto)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 11:20:29 -0500
Subject: time sync (not!)
Message-ID: <sa545c96.022@lan.newpaltz.edu>

So, I have several nw5.0 severs at sp6a and one nw4.11 at (shhh! sp6a).
Oh, DS 7.51a.  This is has turned out to be rather long.  Sorry.

One is contacting internet time sources and acting as Primary.  The
others are all set as Secondary.  In both ambiguous places (monitor).
Using a configured list, they all (except the primary, of course), have
the Primary as the first server to contact.

This configuration worked fine for several days, after a reconfig for
similar errors, where it seems I had things misconfigured.  (but, it had
worked (?) for month, that way).

But now, I noticed the "time sync lost after" business and "time is not
in sych" at the server console(s).  DS repair reports time is not in
sync.

I find that only one of the servers (and the Primary) show the Primary
in DSrepair timesyncronization.  I find that a singular puzzlement.

All of the secondary servers report, via timesync debug screen, that
they *are* currently on speaking terms with the primary, with new
postive messages every 9-10 seconds or so.  The Primary seems happy
speaking to its internet sources.

After staring at this for some time, at the Primary, I did a Timesync
Restart (monitor).  It took several minutes for Monitor to "free up".
Soon, "Time In sync" popped up on that server (Primary).  Some, but not
all, servers would report (via dsrepair) that some were in sync, some
were not.

The servers are all connected to a Cabletron Smartstack els-100 24txm
switch.  all ports are 100 hd, as are the NIC's, but I am considering
changing these all to 100/FD due to the number of collisions I see in
the Port stats,  No other "errors" are reported.

I seek words of wisdom.  Or commiseration, at least.  But hopefully, a
minimum of hoots an howls over how simple this really is.


-----------------------------------------
Joe Acquisto
SUNY New Paltz
845-257-3134 (V)
845-257-6900 (F)
-----------------------------------------

 

From bscherr at AMPEISCH.COM  Thu Jan  4 16:29:40 2001
From: bscherr at AMPEISCH.COM (bscherr at AMPEISCH.COM)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 11:29:40 -0500
Subject: Client32 & Win2K DUN
In-Reply-To: <sa4867d1.087@NW5ADM>
Message-ID: <3A545E0F.6919.334F0F@localhost>

        Is Novell aware of this problem?  Should I do anything to help them fix
this?

On 26 Dec 2000, at 9:41, Vaine Barreira (lista) wrote:

Hi,

I had the same problem. The resolution:

remove all objects in the Network Properties (clients, protocols, dun and network card);
reboot Win2K;
install again network card, protocols and clients;
config dun again and the problem with IP and PPP Protocol message will disappear.

This procedure was informed by technical support of Microsoft.

By.

Vaine.



==========================================
Vaine Luiz Barreira
Diretor de Tecnologia e Marketing
www.vaine.barreira.nom.br
vlbarreira at mentat.com.br
Fone/Fax: (16) 236-4097
Celular: (16) 9783-0940
Mentat Solucoes Ltda.
Solucoes Completas em Conectividade
www.mentat.com.br
==========================================

>>> <bscherr at AMPEISCH.COM> 12/24/00 12:16 >>>
        Folks,

   This has been driving me nuts for 3 months now.  I am responsible for
IBM thinkpads with win2k.  They are running Client32 v4.8.  They are
configured to dial into a modem bank that is active 24/7.

Client32 is configured for IP and IPX.  The IPX frame types in use are 802.3
& 802.2.  The RAS machine runs Ethernet_II on remote connections.  I
install these with three DUN connections.  Two are for the office, and the
other is for the users to dial where ever they like.  The manipulation of
these settings is successful

   If the "Add new Connection" wizard is run, IP will fail on all subsequent
dial-up.  Error 720 (no ppp control protocols configured) is the error
message.  If IPX is checked, that connection will be established.  If IPX is
not enabled, the connection will fail with the above notice.  The only way to
allow further DUN IP connections is to reinstall windows.

   So far my answer has been to tell the users not run the wizard.  Any
help is appreciated!
Bill Scherr IV
Network Security Consultant
A.M. Peisch and Company, LLP, CPAs

Bill Scherr IV
Network Security Consultant
A.M. Peisch and Company, LLP, CPAs

 

From JRD at CC.USU.EDU  Thu Jan  4 16:30:12 2001
From: JRD at CC.USU.EDU (Joe Doupnik)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 11:30:12 -0500
Subject: time sync (not!)
Message-ID: <01JYI6A2QFIQ94G8T6@cc.usu.edu>

>So, I have several nw5.0 severs at sp6a and one nw4.11 at (shhh! sp6a).
>Oh, DS 7.51a.  This is has turned out to be rather long.  Sorry.
>
>One is contacting internet time sources and acting as Primary.  The
>others are all set as Secondary.  In both ambiguous places (monitor).
>Using a configured list, they all (except the primary, of course), have
>the Primary as the first server to contact.

        Make that server type SINGLE. It is the server which receives
external time info and propagates it to other (SECONDARY) NDS servers.
Use configured sources, of course.
        Joe D.

>Joe Acquisto
>SUNY New Paltz
>845-257-3134 (V)
>845-257-6900 (F)

 

From bdurland at MRPCAP.COM  Thu Jan  4 16:30:18 2001
From: bdurland at MRPCAP.COM (Bud Durland)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 11:30:18 -0500
Subject: CPU designations
Message-ID: <3A54A5D2.28CB03E4@mrpcap.com>

We're planning a new server pruchase, and I'm running some numbers on
whether or not we want to build our own.  In the process, I've
discovered that I haven't been keeping up with the CPU market.

What is a Pentium III 'FCPGA'? It appears to use a 370 socket, rather
than a slot?

Also, will Netware 5.1 run just as happily on an Athlon processor as a
Pentium?  Can anyone make a recommendation for a server motherboard?

--
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Remember "I" before "E", except in Budweiser.
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Bud Durland, CNE                                   Mold-Rite Plastics
Network Administrator                           http://www.mrpcap.com
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From JRD at CC.USU.EDU  Thu Jan  4 16:34:48 2001
From: JRD at CC.USU.EDU (Joe Doupnik)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 11:34:48 -0500
Subject: CPU designations
Message-ID: <01JYI6DBOEYG94G8T6@cc.usu.edu>

>We're planning a new server pruchase, and I'm running some numbers on
>whether or not we want to build our own.  In the process, I've
>discovered that I haven't been keeping up with the CPU market.
>
>What is a Pentium III 'FCPGA'? It appears to use a 370 socket, rather
>than a slot?

        Spend a little more time in the cpu motherboard NEWS groups to
come up to speed on today's situation. Sift wheat from chaft, and one
deduces what works better in the field.

>Also, will Netware 5.1 run just as happily on an Athlon processor as a
>Pentium?  Can anyone make a recommendation for a server motherboard?

        Yes. Please do that speed building stuff and form your own views on
what you want. They all work. I use a lot of AMD cpus, in ASUS motherboards
for the most part.
        Joe D.

>Bud Durland, CNE                                   Mold-Rite Plastics
>Network Administrator                           http://www.mrpcap.com

 

From dyu at UCRNET.COM  Thu Jan  4 16:49:13 2001
From: dyu at UCRNET.COM (David Yu)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 11:49:13 -0500
Subject: Prolem with 2 NDPS printers servicing one print queue.
Message-ID: <sa546343.013@ucrnet.com>

I'm having a problem, so here's hoping someone has some ideas. I recently migrated queue based printers to ndps. Well one print
queue had two printers servicing it. When one printer was busy, the other would kick in and start printing. I've converted both printers to NDPS but left the queue. I've configured both NDPS printer objects to service that queue. For a short while it worked fine, when one printer was busy printing, the other would step in and take some jobs out of the queue. 

However after a few days it seemed to stop working. Now all the jobs queue up in the queue to be printed while the second printer
just sits there. NDPS reports everything as being fine. The printer is online and ready. 

Any ideas as to why this is? Any suggestions on how to trace down how the printers are pulling jobs from the queue? NDPS seems
to be more difficult to trace (probably because I don't know where to look) than the old queue based printing. 

Thanks in advance.
-David Yu
dyu at ucrnet.com

 

From dblack at FRONTWAY.COM  Thu Jan  4 17:08:38 2001
From: dblack at FRONTWAY.COM (Doug Black)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 12:08:38 -0500
Subject: Cluster Services vs Standby Server
Message-ID: <A18002DDE56DD21184050008C7B1601403F574E0@SNOHEX16.sarcom.com>

Mike Kollmorgan <mkoll at USOL.COM>  wrote:

>  I have the opportunity to set up a site with two Novell 5.1 servers.
> The site is 24x7 and needs to be up at all times.  Stand by Server would
> appear to be the least expensive way to go.  Can anyone tell me why I
> would want cluster services instead?  Do I need two server licenses to
> have Cluster Services running?  The site is 50 user.  Do I need a 50 user
> license for each server when running Cluster Services?

I'm not real sure about the licensing issues since I tend to work in
environments with MLA licensing, but I do know that if you need absolute
24x7 uptime, NWCS is the only way to go.  Standby Server reduces downtime,
but does not eliminate it.  If the 'primary' server goes down, the standby
server must sense it (via heartbeat) then shut itself down and restart in
'primary' mode.  So you could be down for a minute or more, depending on how
long the server takes to come up.  Granted, this is no big deal, but it *is*
an interruption.

All in all, I guess it would depend on what services are being provided by
these NetWare servers.  If it's just file&print, and momentary interruptions
can be tolerated, I would go with Standby Server.  If you're hosting other
services on NetWare (e.g., Web server, email etc), *first* make sure NWCS
supports that service, then go with it -- if you require 100% uptime.


>  If I use Stand by Server do I have to have an extra NIC in each server
> to connect them together or can I use the current NICs.  I will have
> 2 NICS in each server with load balancing.

IIRC, it's POSSIBLE to run the mirror server link over the production
network connection, but it's strongly discouraged.  Network congestion could
interrupt the 'heartbeat' traffic, causing the standby server to think the
primary server has gone down.  What have you got then?  Two servers on the
wire, with the same name & network address.  Not A Good Thing.   Spend the
extra $100 or so on a dedicated server link.


HTH
Doug Black

 

From ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU  Thu Jan  4 17:25:39 2001
From: ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU (Joe Acquisto)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 12:25:39 -0500
Subject: time sync (not!)
Message-ID: <sa546bc0.047@lan.newpaltz.edu>

>>So, I have several nw5.0 severs at sp6a and one nw4.11 at (shhh!
>sp6a).
>>Oh, DS 7.51a.  This is has turned out to be rather long.  Sorry.
>>
>>One is contacting internet time sources and acting as Primary.  The
>>others are all set as Secondary.  In both ambiguous places
(monitor).
>>Using a configured list, they all (except the primary, of course),
have
>>the Primary as the first server to contact.
>
>        Make that server type SINGLE. It is the server which receives
>external time info and propagates it to other (SECONDARY) NDS
servers.
>Use configured sources, of course.
>        Joe D.

Having changed the server type to SINGLE, unloading/reloading
timesync.nlm at that box, and doing a timesync restart at the other
servers seems to have oiled the waters.  All show in sych via DSrepair.


However, I've gone through this before with different configs and seen
everything come into time sync, then go ka-flewy, later.   Gives me
pause.  I'm sure you are correct, but I have had to fiddle with the
config from time to time, even hitting on "working configs" that some
docs said could not work.   Time to hit the reference books again.

BTW - those servers that do not show the SINGLE server in the time
synchronization screen do not have replicas.  That list of servers
agrees with the list of "servers know" in another area of DSrepair.
Which, of itself, has always bugged me.

A brief period of contemplation is in order.  OK, that's enough.

joea

>>Joe Acquisto
>>SUNY New Paltz
>>845-257-3134 (V)
>>845-257-6900 (F)

 

From dmulligan at MATHESON.CO.UK  Thu Jan  4 17:42:12 2001
From: dmulligan at MATHESON.CO.UK (David Mulligan)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 12:42:12 -0500
Subject: Client32 & Win2K DUN
Message-ID: <sa54b42a.029@matheson.co.uk>

Did you install win2000 sp1 ?

I had to reinstall win2000 on thinkpads without the service pack and all worked........


>>> <bscherr at AMPEISCH.COM> 04/01/01 16:27 >>>
        Is Novell aware of this problem?  Should I do anything to help them fix
this?

On 26 Dec 2000, at 9:41, Vaine Barreira (lista) wrote:

Hi,

I had the same problem. The resolution:

remove all objects in the Network Properties (clients, protocols, dun and network card);
reboot Win2K;
install again network card, protocols and clients;
config dun again and the problem with IP and PPP Protocol message will disappear.

This procedure was informed by technical support of Microsoft.

By.

Vaine.



==========================================
Vaine Luiz Barreira
Diretor de Tecnologia e Marketing
www.vaine.barreira.nom.br 
vlbarreira at mentat.com.br 
Fone/Fax: (16) 236-4097
Celular: (16) 9783-0940
Mentat Solucoes Ltda.
Solucoes Completas em Conectividade
www.mentat.com.br 
==========================================

>>> <bscherr at AMPEISCH.COM> 12/24/00 12:16 >>>
        Folks,

   This has been driving me nuts for 3 months now.  I am responsible for
IBM thinkpads with win2k.  They are running Client32 v4.8.  They are
configured to dial into a modem bank that is active 24/7.

Client32 is configured for IP and IPX.  The IPX frame types in use are 802.3
& 802.2.  The RAS machine runs Ethernet_II on remote connections.  I
install these with three DUN connections.  Two are for the office, and the
other is for the users to dial where ever they like.  The manipulation of
these settings is successful

   If the "Add new Connection" wizard is run, IP will fail on all subsequent
dial-up.  Error 720 (no ppp control protocols configured) is the error
message.  If IPX is checked, that connection will be established.  If IPX is
not enabled, the connection will fail with the above notice.  The only way to
allow further DUN IP connections is to reinstall windows.

   So far my answer has been to tell the users not run the wizard.  Any
help is appreciated!
Bill Scherr IV
Network Security Consultant
A.M. Peisch and Company, LLP, CPAs

Bill Scherr IV
Network Security Consultant
A.M. Peisch and Company, LLP, CPAs

 

From corey at HOMETEK.COM  Thu Jan  4 19:01:03 2001
From: corey at HOMETEK.COM (Corey Mang)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 14:01:03 -0500
Subject: SLP
Message-ID: <3A54C33E.8DE7E799@hometek.com>

Happy New year to all,

I recently installed a new server using NetWare 5.1. After some initial
problems regarding an attempted use of the DHCP server client with ADSL,
I switched the internet connection to Shaw cable. The internet
connection and NAT now function perfectly.

The SLP screen that used to display upon start-up no longer appears. I
now recieve the message "SLP UA WARNING: Unable to contact directory
agent. Verify DA availability, IP connectivity, DA discovery options and
configuration." I have only two configured IP address. One internal, one
external. Both are recognized immediately upon unloading and reloading
of SLPTCP.  I have not changed any of the defaults for SLP.CFG.

Any input greatly appreciated.

Corey Mang

 

From Pleebhart at HCFA.GOV  Thu Jan  4 19:12:25 2001
From: Pleebhart at HCFA.GOV (Patricia Leeb-Hart)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 14:12:25 -0500
Subject: Cluster Services vs stand by server
Message-ID: <sa547c5d.021@hcfa.gov>

For a site that needs that kind of uptime, I would recommend Cluster Services.
It's really the best solution for maximum uptime.  However, implementing NWCS
requires plenty of research and planning, and it brings up some requirements
that your client may not be willing to spring for:

A cluster should really have an external shared disk subsystem, which enhances
the failover/failback effectiveness (if one node goes down, it doesn't take its
storage capacity with it; configuring the volumes and assigning resources is
more manageable).  This, then, requires a device to enable communication between
the servers and the disk s.s.; and that's a research project in and of itself.
Novell doesn't absolutely require an external subystems but "strongly
recommends" it.

NWCS requires NSS, and each node and volume requires its own IP address.  You
can always use the reserved IP address for private use, obviously; but if it's
hosting any Web services you'll then need NAT.

NWCS introduces a new licensing object, the Cluster User Access License.  Per
Novell: "You need one or more CUALs to equal the number of connections for the
server connection licenses that are deleted. The CUAL is an object in the NDS
database and acts as a holding container for connections. This means that
clients connecting to any cluster server can draw connections from the CUAL as
needed, as long as there are still connections available. "

Console1, of course, and a powerful enough machine to run it.

Take a look at developer.novell.com/research/appnotes/1999/may/01/apv/03.htm to
get an idea of what's involved.

Standby Server, OTOH, is an older technology, but simpler, and given NetWare's
reliability may very well do for now until you get more up to speed on NWCS.  If
you haven't already, check out
developer.novell.com/research/appnotes/1998/december/netnotes/04.htm.   At some
point you'll want to persuade your client to move to NWCS; it's just much more
robust.  IMO it's worth the initial investment and learning curve.

In either case, extra NICs are not necessary.  Both NWCS and Standby Server
offer forms of load balancing as part of the process.
*********************************************************
Also spracht Mike Kollmorgan <mkoll at USOL.COM>

I have the opportunity to set up a site with two Novell 5.1 servers.  The
site is 24x7 and needs to be up at all times.  Stand by Server would appear
to be the least expensive way to go.  Can anyone tell me why I would want
cluster services instead?  Do I need two server licenses to have Cluster
Services running?  The site is 50 user.  Do I need a 50 user license for
each server when running Cluster Services?

If I use Stand by Server do I have to have an extra NIC in each server to
connect them together or can I use the current NICs.  I will have 2 NICS in
each server with load balancing.

Thanks
Mike

 

From angussf at GEOAPPS.COM  Thu Jan  4 19:22:39 2001
From: angussf at GEOAPPS.COM (Angus Scott-Fleming)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 14:22:39 -0500
Subject: sp8a or sp9?
In-Reply-To: <7F4D39EF73659140A9DC38EB5FC87505486920@hobit.IAADOM>
Message-ID: <3A546B01.14427.8E0B98@localhost>

On 31 Dec 2000, at 8:15, Mike Glassman - Admin wrote:

> The rule regarding SP's is simple in my opinion.
>
> Never install the latest SP directly into your working environment, and
> either test in a testable environment or watch the list and see what happes
> re the patch.

For my clients, all of whom are small, single-server shops, this
policy is merely a pipe-dream.  We have to install in-place in our
existing production environments.

---------------------------------------------------------
Angus Scott-Fleming      GeoApplications, Tucson, Arizona
angussf at geoapps.com   1-520-290-5038 / fax 1-208-248-3124
---------------------------------------------------------

 

From NPOLANCO at URC-CHS.COM  Thu Jan  4 19:26:20 2001
From: NPOLANCO at URC-CHS.COM (NORBERTO POLANCO)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 14:26:20 -0500
Subject: FTP problem  on Novell 5.1 SP1
Message-ID: <sa547cb4.007@URC-FIREWALL>

Thank you for your respond.

What I mean is that the documents lose all the margins, fonts and also get all type of computer code in them. 
We are able to upload files fine to any server and they don't lose any format.

Yes, We used binary to download.

I think the problem is with the Novell server. What we are trying is to FTP to a server that is in the network but it is not the one that is running the FTP server.  

Any other suggestions will be appreciated.


Date:         Thu, 4 Jan 2001 14:26:20 -0500
From:    "Diego D. Rossetto" <diego at QUALITYWARE.COM.BR>
Subject: Re: FTP problem  on Novell 5.1 SP1

Norberto,

        What do you mean with lose the format ?

        Have you tried downloading files in binary ?  Use "bin" command before
the " get " command.

        Diego D.

NORBERTO POLANCO wrote:
>
> Have anyone install FTP on a Novell 5.1 with SP1?
>
> We are having a little problem with it. We have 5 servers one is running BorderManager 3.5 firewall and the FTP server. When we download any file from any server other than the one that is running the FTP server we lose the format in any document.
>
> Do anybody have any idea was going on?
>
> *************************************************************
> Norberto Polanco
> Network Manager
> University Research CO., LLC
> 7200 Wisconsin Ave. Suite 600
> Bethesda, MD 20814
> Tel: 301-941-8555
> Fax: 301-941-8650
> Internet Address: Npolanco at urc-chs.com
> Home Page: http://WWW.URC-CHS.COM
> *************************************************************


*************************************************************
Norberto Polanco
Network Manager
University Research CO., LLC
7200 Wisconsin Ave. Suite 600
Bethesda, MD 20814
Tel: 301-941-8555
Fax: 301-941-8650
Internet Address: Npolanco at urc-chs.com 
Home Page: http://WWW.URC-CHS.COM 
*************************************************************

 

From angussf at GEOAPPS.COM  Thu Jan  4 19:28:03 2001
From: angussf at GEOAPPS.COM (Angus Scott-Fleming)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 14:28:03 -0500
Subject: Rename file using NAL on Win2K
In-Reply-To: <7F4D39EF73659140A9DC38EB5FC87505486959@hobit.IAADOM>
Message-ID: <3A546C48.24044.930828@localhost>

On 2 Jan 2001, at 12:54, Mike Glassman - Admin wrote:

> All,
>
> I am looking for a method to rename a file using NAL under WinNt and Win2K.
>
> The file is NWWS2NDS.DLL used by the Netware client and which it seems
> causes problems with high utilization on Netware servers sometimes.
>
> Creating an app object will allow me to copy the file, but not rename it.
>
> It is not possible to delete the file in it's dll state as it is in use by
> the OS.
>
> Any ideas how to do it ?

You might try SysInternals.com's NTFS4DOS ... allows you to boot from
floppy and make changes to an NTFS disk.

---------------------------------------------------------
Angus Scott-Fleming      GeoApplications, Tucson, Arizona
angussf at geoapps.com   1-520-290-5038 / fax 1-208-248-3124
---------------------------------------------------------

 

From tch at IQX.CO.UK  Thu Jan  4 19:31:02 2001
From: tch at IQX.CO.UK (Tim Heywood, IQX)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 14:31:02 -0500
Subject: Cluster Services vs Standby Server
References: <A18002DDE56DD21184050008C7B1601403F574E0@SNOHEX16.sarcom.com>
Message-ID: <002f01c07685$6ec005e0$0a00a8c0@toy>

Just a little warning here, if you install a dedicated hartbeat link you
must manage the cluster from that link!  In other words theworkstation
manageing the cluster must be in the sam subnet as the cluster's hartbeat
NIC's are using.

It's real fun if you don't expect it and the cluster fails to respond ;-)

Tim

> IIRC, it's POSSIBLE to run the mirror server link over the production
> network connection, but it's strongly discouraged.  Network congestion
could
> interrupt the 'heartbeat' traffic, causing the standby server to think the
> primary server has gone down.  What have you got then?  Two servers on the
> wire, with the same name & network address.  Not A Good Thing.   Spend the
> extra $100 or so on a dedicated server link.
>
>
> HTH
> Doug Black
>

 

From JRD at CC.USU.EDU  Thu Jan  4 19:35:13 2001
From: JRD at CC.USU.EDU (Joe Doupnik)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 14:35:13 -0500
Subject: FTP problem  on Novell 5.1 SP1
Message-ID: <01JYICMOC4S294GAOL@cc.usu.edu>

>Thank you for your respond.
>
>What I mean is that the documents lose all the margins, fonts and also get =
>all type of computer code in them.=20
>We are able to upload files fine to any server and they don't lose any =
>format.
>
>Yes, We used binary to download.
>
>I think the problem is with the Novell server. What we are trying is to =
>FTP to a server that is in the network but it is not the one that is =
>running the FTP server. =20
>
>Any other suggestions will be appreciated.
------
        From what you have described so far:
        If the files are flat then a true Binary transfer copies byte after
byte, and that's that. If they are composite files then such transfers will
fail because FTP Binary transfers default to flat file mode. Structured files
depend on file system structures, which normally rarely match between systems,
and structured files include the Mac double forked variety.
        All that said, the answer is the files likely went as ASCII. The first
quick check is to look for length inflation on the receiving end. The logical
second thing to do is try an FTP client which is not a GUI "overly helpful"
affair; use plain ftp.exe from DOS or a DOS window.
        Novell's FTP server NLMs do work, I use them heavily, and file
corruption does not occur.
        Joe D.

 

From dokagaki at WORLDNET.ATT.NET  Thu Jan  4 19:43:20 2001
From: dokagaki at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Dave)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 14:43:20 -0500
Subject: Disaster Recovery
In-Reply-To: <sa5441b8.043@gwise.louisville.edu>
Message-ID: <FHEJKGOGDAGPCENBNCPJIEKECGAA.dokagaki@worldnet.att.net>

Sorry for the question, but this sort of thing always puts me on edge; am I
understanding this right, you unmirrored the drives and that destroyed your
volumes?

d...

-----Original Message-----
From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of
Randall J. Storey
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 6:26 AM
To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Disaster Recovery


NetWare 3.12 server.

Mirrored hard drives with one NetWare partition only, and one volume only
...  the hard drives were unmirrored, and subsequently the volume was
deleted on both.  One of these hard drives has not been touched since the
volume was deleted.  Is there any utility to recover the files from this
drive?  Preferably as the original volume, but I'll settle for what I can
get!

Randall Storey
UofL Industrial Engineering
502/852-1691, FAX -5633

 

From dyu at UCRNET.COM  Thu Jan  4 20:21:25 2001
From: dyu at UCRNET.COM (David Yu)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:21:25 -0500
Subject: Disaster Recovery
Message-ID: <sa549502.029@ucrnet.com>

Unmirroring the drives will not destroy the volumes.  I'm assuming Randall is saying that the volumes were manually deleted, intentionally or unintentionally I'm not sure.  But the act of unmirroring drives does not automatically delete the volumes.  To that I can attest having worked with mirroring under 3.12.

-D

*********************************************************************
-David Yu, CNE, MCSE, ASE, NTP, LCP                 
Director of Technology    "Great men are they who see that
UCR-Ohio                        spiritual is stronger than any
                                        material force, that thoughts rule
                                        the world."  - Ralph Waldo Emerson
*************************************************************************

>>> Dave <dokagaki at WORLDNET.ATT.NET> 01/04/01 02:40PM >>>
Sorry for the question, but this sort of thing always puts me on edge; am I
understanding this right, you unmirrored the drives and that destroyed your
volumes?

d...

-----Original Message-----
From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of
Randall J. Storey
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 6:26 AM
To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU 
Subject: Disaster Recovery


NetWare 3.12 server.

Mirrored hard drives with one NetWare partition only, and one volume only
...  the hard drives were unmirrored, and subsequently the volume was
deleted on both.  One of these hard drives has not been touched since the
volume was deleted.  Is there any utility to recover the files from this
drive?  Preferably as the original volume, but I'll settle for what I can
get!

Randall Storey
UofL Industrial Engineering
502/852-1691, FAX -5633

 

From plasthermo at PRODIGY.NET.MX  Thu Jan  4 20:50:49 2001
From: plasthermo at PRODIGY.NET.MX (Plasthermo, S.A. de C.V.)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:50:49 -0500
Subject: Automatic turn on and off the server?
Message-ID: <001c01c07690$828200a0$0100000a@alfonso>

Hi all,
We are using Novell 4.11 in a Compaq Proliant 800 Pentium II Server.
Every day we turn it on (manually) at 8:00 a.m. and turn it off at 8:00 p.m.
We prefer not to have it working 24 hrs., so if anybody knows
a way to automatically turn it on and off at a given hour, (let's say from 
7:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m., when nobody is at the office or server site to
do it manually) it will be very helpfull to us.

We don't mean to just lock user access to network, we really mean 
fisically turn off the hardware. Is that posibble?
Any ideas?

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From Lance.Groth at STATE.MN.US  Thu Jan  4 20:55:38 2001
From: Lance.Groth at STATE.MN.US (Lance E. Groth)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:55:38 -0500
Subject: Puzzled about Print Queue Weirdness
Message-ID: <3A548EEB.24909.A877AE8@localhost>

I'm still puzzled about something that happened (and was fixed)
about a month ago.  Probably I should just move on since it's fixed,
and possibly I'm missing something obvious, but I'd like to know
the "why" and perhaps one of you can enlighten me.

Here's the scenario:  a 4.11/DS 6.10 server held all of our print
queues (about a dozen), and a r/w replica of Root.  The server had
been experiencing some stability problems, occasionally abending
during backups, and until a solution was found I decided to remove
the replica - so as to at least avoid potential NDS corruption as a
result of the abends.

When I deleted the replica (which operation went just fine), I was
surprised to find that all of the print queues were unusable.  I don't
remember the exact error messages, but they basically said that
the print queues did not exist, although the objects were still
present in NDS, and the queue dirs were still on disk where they
should be.

Deleting and recreating the queues fixed the problem, but I'm still
left wondering - why would deleting a partition replica trash the
local queues??   Queues can exist on any server, replica or no, so
I just don't see the connection.  Since it wasn't a problem on disk,
it must be a DS thingy, yet three other replicas existed at the time,
and a DS health check confirmed a healthy tree (small tree, single
site LAN, no WAN links between replicas.)

I'll be most grateful if anyone has an answer, as I can then kill the
background task in my mind that keeps niggling at the problem...

tia,
Lance

 

From ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU  Thu Jan  4 20:58:42 2001
From: ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU (Joe Acquisto)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:58:42 -0500
Subject: SLP
Message-ID: <sa549876.058@lan.newpaltz.edu>

Please describe your configuration in a bit more detail, as well as what
you are trying to accomplish.

Is this a new server in an exisiting network, where an SLPDA is already
established?

-----------------------------------------
Joe Acquisto
SUNY New Paltz
845-257-3134 (V)
845-257-6900 (F)
-----------------------------------------

>>> Corey Mang <corey at HOMETEK.COM> 01/04/01 01:38PM >>>
Happy New year to all,

I recently installed a new server using NetWare 5.1. After some
initial
problems regarding an attempted use of the DHCP server client with
ADSL,
I switched the internet connection to Shaw cable. The internet
connection and NAT now function perfectly.

The SLP screen that used to display upon start-up no longer appears. I
now recieve the message "SLP UA WARNING: Unable to contact directory
agent. Verify DA availability, IP connectivity, DA discovery options
and
configuration." I have only two configured IP address. One internal,
one
external. Both are recognized immediately upon unloading and reloading
of SLPTCP.  I have not changed any of the defaults for SLP.CFG.

Any input greatly appreciated.

Corey Mang

 

From KPARRIS at SDE.STATE.SC.US  Thu Jan  4 21:29:35 2001
From: KPARRIS at SDE.STATE.SC.US (Kevin Parris)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:29:35 -0500
Subject: Automatic turn on and off the server?
Message-ID: <sa54a5c6.034@gw.state.sc.us>

Plug it into an APC brand UPS device and use their PowerChute software to schedule "daily server shutdown" power on/off events in the UPS.   www.apcc.com for more details     For the safety of the data on your server, make sure you implement the routine to run an NCF so that NetWare is DOWN/EXIT-ed when the UPS is about ready to switch off the electricity.

But for what it's worth, I believe you will find that the NetWare software works just fine when left running continuously, and user time restrictions can take care of keeping people out of it during the un-authorized hours.

And it is my opinion that frequent power on/off state changes, and the accompanying warm-up/cool-down cycles, are a good way to reduce the lifespan of your hardware.  It's not as bad as in the vacuum-tube days, but even solid-state components are still subject to thermal expansion/contraction effects, and there is the starting/stopping stress on the hard drive mechanism.

>>> plasthermo at PRODIGY.NET.MX 01/04/01 03:54PM >>>
Hi all,
We are using Novell 4.11 in a Compaq Proliant 800 Pentium II Server.
Every day we turn it on (manually) at 8:00 a.m. and turn it off at 8:00 p.m.
We prefer not to have it working 24 hrs., so if anybody knows
a way to automatically turn it on and off at a given hour, (let's say from 
7:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m., when nobody is at the office or server site to
do it manually) it will be very helpfull to us.

We don't mean to just lock user access to network, we really mean 
fisically turn off the hardware. Is that posibble?
Any ideas?

 

From ron.stonehouse at UALBERTA.CA  Thu Jan  4 21:32:32 2001
From: ron.stonehouse at UALBERTA.CA (Ronald Stonehouse)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:32:32 -0500
Subject: Automatic File Purges
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20010104142533.00a5fa80@pop.srv.ualberta.ca>

Last night our office ran a manual purge of our Netware 5.0 server (VOL1
only)  and came up with 447,310 files being purged. I'm sure I've read
somewhere that there is a setting in NetWare whereby we can have it
automatically purge the older files once they have reached a preset number
of days. I know you can set the purge attribute on directories but I want
to do at a system level (at least on VOL1 as that is where are user
directories are) and have it done automatically and on a regular basis.

Is this possible and if so can someone point me in the right direction.

Thanks

Ron

Ron Stonehouse
ron.stonehouse at ualberta.ca

 

From KPARRIS at SDE.STATE.SC.US  Thu Jan  4 21:39:47 2001
From: KPARRIS at SDE.STATE.SC.US (Kevin Parris)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:39:47 -0500
Subject: Puzzled about Print Queue Weirdness
Message-ID: <sa54a82d.053@gw.state.sc.us>

Just a guess....  but I believe it comes down to "object ID" values.
When a server holds a replica, and an object is created on that server,
it gets an ID value that is (sometimes) unique to the server/replica -
I'm not exactly sure.  When the replica goes away, something about the
identity of the object is altered somehow, and I suspect you'll find
when (IF) you put a replica back on that server, the queues may do the
same thing again.

What I saw here once, when I needed to kill a replica to get rid of
stuck obituaries, and put it back again, was the PSERVER lost access to
the queues when I put the new replica on, and a whole new set of hex
file/directory names showed up in the queues location - but I didn't
have to delete/define them, just stop and start Pserver.

Of course, this was all quite a surprise, and very annoying to the
users since I **THOUGHT** that a replica operation was not supposed to
have this kind of impact (since there were a few other servers online
holding replicas), and did it in the middle of the day.  What's the
point of replication (besides recoverability) if you can't add/remove
copies transparently?

>>> Lance.Groth at STATE.MN.US 01/04/01 03:55PM >>>
I'm still puzzled about something that happened (and was fixed)
about a month ago.  Probably I should just move on since it's fixed,
and possibly I'm missing something obvious, but I'd like to know
the "why" and perhaps one of you can enlighten me.

Here's the scenario:  a 4.11/DS 6.10 server held all of our print
queues (about a dozen), and a r/w replica of Root.  The server had
been experiencing some stability problems, occasionally abending
during backups, and until a solution was found I decided to remove
the replica - so as to at least avoid potential NDS corruption as a
result of the abends.

When I deleted the replica (which operation went just fine), I was
surprised to find that all of the print queues were unusable.  I don't
remember the exact error messages, but they basically said that
the print queues did not exist, although the objects were still
present in NDS, and the queue dirs were still on disk where they
should be.

Deleting and recreating the queues fixed the problem, but I'm still
left wondering - why would deleting a partition replica trash the
local queues??   Queues can exist on any server, replica or no, so
I just don't see the connection.  Since it wasn't a problem on disk,
it must be a DS thingy, yet three other replicas existed at the time,
and a DS health check confirmed a healthy tree (small tree, single
site LAN, no WAN links between replicas.)

I'll be most grateful if anyone has an answer, as I can then kill the
background task in my mind that keeps niggling at the problem...

tia,
Lance

 

From wallewek at KMSI.NET  Thu Jan  4 21:45:22 2001
From: wallewek at KMSI.NET (wallewek at KMSI.NET)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:45:22 -0500
Subject: SBS upgrade gotcha: 4.x -> 5.x _reduces_ licenses
In-Reply-To: <7F4D39EF73659140A9DC38EB5FC87505486985@hobit.IAADOM>
References: <7F4D39EF73659140A9DC38EB5FC87505486985@hobit.IAADOM>
Message-ID: <mhr95t4bvr0em2ls0qklvgoe5ttfv7f4j2@4ax.com>

Sorry, no.  As in my previous posting (where I was more clear), I am
referring to the Small Business package.

Oh, and the "nothing can be done until they get back" in no way implies
that anything _will_ be done, ever.  Holding my breath, I ain't.

/kenw

On Thu, 4 Jan 2001 10:35:52 +0200, you wrote:

>Just to get this clear....Are you talking about Standby Server for Netware ?
>
>If so, the only issue that SBS has with licenses is the validation stage.
>
>Other then that, it has nothing at all to do with licensing as far as I
>know.
>
>If your talking about something else, disregard me at all :)
>
>Mike
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: wallewek at KMSI.NET [SMTP:wallewek at KMSI.NET]
>> Sent: ? ????? 03 2001 21:32
>> To:   NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
>> Subject:      SBS upgrade gotcha: 4.x -> 5.x _reduces_ licenses
>> 
>> On the SCS 4.1 -> 5.1 upgrade, my client has had the unhappy suprise of
>> having to buy more licenses because SBS no longer allows extra licenses
>> for
>> print servers.  What really stinks about this is that there was no advance
>> notice -- just install the upgrade, and surprise!  This is not how I
>> prefer
>> to treat clients.
>> 
>> I talked to several people at Novell -- wasting a _lot_ of time on hold,
>> etc. -- and the best answer I got is that the managers in charge of SBS
>> are
>> on vacation and nothing can be done until they get back.  The client can't
>> wait; he's ordered extra licenses.
>> 
>> Novell gets coal in the stocking for this.
>> 
>> /kenw
>> Ken Wallewein
>> Calgary, Alberta
>> kenw at kmsi.net

Ken Wallewein
Calgary, Alberta
kenw at kmsi.net

 

From KPARRIS at SDE.STATE.SC.US  Thu Jan  4 21:46:09 2001
From: KPARRIS at SDE.STATE.SC.US (Kevin Parris)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:46:09 -0500
Subject: Automatic File Purges
Message-ID: <sa54a9ac.014@gw.state.sc.us>

No, there are two SET parameters in the file system category, where you can specify the minimum time after a file is deleted before NetWare is *allowed* to automatically purge, but there is no automatic purge except for 'the volume has filled up and I need the space now' in the system.

There are some purge/cleanup utilities out there... one I'm familiar with is in the JRB Utilities package - you can specify "how long since deleted" or "file size" or some other options for determining when to purge files.  But you have to run them at a workstation, I don't know of any that run as NLM on the server.

>>> ron.stonehouse at UALBERTA.CA 01/04/01 04:32PM >>>
Last night our office ran a manual purge of our Netware 5.0 server (VOL1
only)  and came up with 447,310 files being purged. I'm sure I've read
somewhere that there is a setting in NetWare whereby we can have it
automatically purge the older files once they have reached a preset number
of days. I know you can set the purge attribute on directories but I want
to do at a system level (at least on VOL1 as that is where are user
directories are) and have it done automatically and on a regular basis.

Is this possible and if so can someone point me in the right direction.

Thanks

Ron

Ron Stonehouse
ron.stonehouse at ualberta.ca

 

From Lester.Bennett at TREASURY.QLD.GOV.AU  Thu Jan  4 21:49:03 2001
From: Lester.Bennett at TREASURY.QLD.GOV.AU (Lester.Bennett at TREASURY.QLD.GOV.AU)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:49:03 -0500
Subject: SBS upgrade gotcha: 4.x -> 5.x _reduces_ licenses
Message-ID: <4A2569CA.00776449.00@nt_trs_16.treasury.qld.gov.au>

Mike,

You're going to create confusion here by refering to StandbyServer as SBS.
NSBS is the official acronym for Novell Small Business Suite.

Regards,
Lester Bennett

 

From Lester.Bennett at TREASURY.QLD.GOV.AU  Thu Jan  4 21:53:59 2001
From: Lester.Bennett at TREASURY.QLD.GOV.AU (Lester.Bennett at TREASURY.QLD.GOV.AU)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:53:59 -0500
Subject: Disaster Recovery
Message-ID: <4A2569CA.0078359C.00@nt_trs_16.treasury.qld.gov.au>

On one occassion in the past I had a similar situation and when I recreated
a Netware partion on the drive starting and ending at the same blocks as
the original all of the data was there. Could be worth a try. If the drive
has a DOS partition I would guess that the Netware partition filled the
remainder of the drive.

Lester Bennett
Queensland Treasury
Brisbane,  Qld.,  Australia







"Randall J. Storey" <storey at LOUISVILLE.EDU> on 05/01/2001 12:25:44 AM

Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU>

To:   NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
cc:    (bcc: Lester Bennett/Treasury_QLD_GOV/AU)
Subject:  Disaster Recovery




NetWare 3.12 server.

Mirrored hard drives with one NetWare partition only, and one volume only
...  the hard drives were unmirrored, and subsequently the volume was
deleted on both.  One of these hard drives has not been touched since the
volume was deleted.  Is there any utility to recover the files from this
drive?  Preferably as the original volume, but I'll settle for what I can
get!

Randall Storey
UofL Industrial Engineering
502/852-1691, FAX -5633

 

From cliang at CARLETON.EDU  Thu Jan  4 22:09:25 2001
From: cliang at CARLETON.EDU (C. Liang)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:09:25 -0500
Subject: Automatic File Purges
In-Reply-To: <sa54a9ac.014@gw.state.sc.us>
Message-ID: <3666384348.978623960@pcLiang.ACNS.Carleton.edu>

--On Thursday, January 04, 2001 4:45 PM -0500 Kevin Parris
<KPARRIS at SDE.STATE.SC.US> wrote:

> There are some purge/cleanup utilities out there... one I'm familiar with
> is in the JRB Utilities package - you can specify "how long since
> deleted" or "file size" or some other options for determining when to
> purge files.  But you have to run them at a workstation, I don't know of
> any that run as NLM on the server.

I've been using Autopurge
(http://www.euronet.nl/users/rovabu/wvw/autopurge.html) from WvW, which
runs as an NLM on the server.  We have a temporary storage directory on the
server where everything gets deleted -- and purged -- on a regular basis.

There is a downloadable demo -- but if I recall correctly, it wasn't Y2K
compliant.  I fired off email to the support address and they sent me a
newer time-restricted version.

                - C. Liang
             Desktop Network Admin, ITS
             Carleton College

 

From DJN at GTY.CI.HENDERSON.NV.US  Thu Jan  4 22:22:21 2001
From: DJN at GTY.CI.HENDERSON.NV.US (Dave Nelson)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:22:21 -0500
Subject: Automatic File Purges
Message-ID: <sa54870e.043@gty.ci.henderson.nv.us>

You can download CRON.NLM and the Enhanced Toolbox from Novell's website.  The enhanced toolbox provides a server-side purge utility that you can use in conjunction with Cron to schedule purges on your server.  I've been running this type of configuration for almost a year now and it works like a champ.

HTH!
? Dave

David J. Nelson, CCNA, CNE, MCP, CLP, N+
Network Specialist II
City of Henderson
240 Water Street
Henderson, Nevada 89015
Tel: 702.565.3851
Fax: 702.566.2296
Cell: 702.373-2932
E-Mail: djn at ci.henderson.nv.us
Home Page: http://www.cityofhenderson.com

> Last night our office ran a manual purge of our Netware 5.0 server (VOL1
> only)  and came up with 447,310 files being purged. I'm sure I've read
> somewhere that there is a setting in NetWare whereby we can have it
> automatically purge the older files once they have reached a preset number
> of days. I know you can set the purge attribute on directories but I want
> to do at a system level (at least on VOL1 as that is where are user
> directories are) and have it done automatically and on a regular basis.
> 
> Is this possible and if so can someone point me in the right direction.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Ron
> 
> Ron Stonehouse
> ron.stonehouse at ualberta.ca

 

From greg at STEADFAST.CA  Thu Jan  4 22:23:25 2001
From: greg at STEADFAST.CA (Greg Bembridge, CET, CNE)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:23:25 -0500
Subject: Groupwise 5.2 error
Message-ID: <3A54EB6A.7B656B0E@steadfast.ca>

A user accesses her supervisors calendar, and has rights to make
changes.  Periodically when she goes to do same, a message comes up that
says " You do not have access to create this item in the calendar
folder."  If she closes groupwise, then opens it again - it works fine
as it should.

Anyone have any ideas?  Thanks, Greg

 

From maryb at UMICH.EDU  Thu Jan  4 22:35:09 2001
From: maryb at UMICH.EDU (MaryBeth Stuenkel)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:35:09 -0500
Subject: Automatic File Purges
References: <4.2.0.58.20010104142533.00a5fa80@pop.srv.ualberta.ca>
Message-ID: <02c501c0769e$976b35f0$8c5bd38d@maryblaptop>

We use purge.nlm by Petr Jaklin to automatically and routinely purge files
that have been deleted for more than a month.  There is also a purge.nlm
from Novell Consulting (see
http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/tidfinder.cgi?2941752) that you can
automate with cron.nlm
(http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/tidfinder.cgi?2939440).  You can
also go to http://www.novellshareware.com/ and search for 'purge' and you'll
come up with quite an impressive list of utilities that do purging in one
form or another.

--MaryBeth

----- Original Message -----

> Last night our office ran a manual purge of our Netware 5.0 server (VOL1
> only)  and came up with 447,310 files being purged. I'm sure I've read
> somewhere that there is a setting in NetWare whereby we can have it
> automatically purge the older files once they have reached a preset number
> of days. I know you can set the purge attribute on directories but I want
> to do at a system level (at least on VOL1 as that is where are user
> directories are) and have it done automatically and on a regular basis.
>
> Is this possible and if so can someone point me in the right direction.
>
> Thanks
>
> Ron
>
> Ron Stonehouse
> ron.stonehouse at ualberta.ca

 

From Lance.Groth at STATE.MN.US  Thu Jan  4 22:44:05 2001
From: Lance.Groth at STATE.MN.US (Lance E. Groth)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:44:05 -0500
Subject: Puzzled about Print Queue Weirdness
In-Reply-To: <31B155306AF@ola-lena.auditor.leg.state.mn.us>
Message-ID: <3A54A856.3238.AEAC492@localhost>

> Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:39:38 -0500
> From:    Kevin Parris <KPARRIS at SDE.STATE.SC.US>
> Subject: Re: Puzzled about Print Queue Weirdness
>
> Just a guess....  but I believe it comes down to "object ID" values.
> When a server holds a replica, and an object is created on that
> server, it gets an ID value that is (sometimes) unique to the
> server/replica - I'm not exactly sure.

Yes, this tracks, I didn't save the error messages but I believe there
was something about an invalid ID.

>When the replica goes away,
> something about the identity of the object is altered somehow,

This is the part I don't understand.  If the queues exist on disk, and
NDS points to them properly with the object ID or whatever, and
said NDS info is replicated on the replica servers, why should the
object values change just because the replica on the queue server
is removed??  That seems kludgy, to say the least.  It wasn't that
big a deal for me, as we only have a dozen queues, but what if
there were lots more ... sheesh ...

>and I
> suspect you'll find when (IF) you put a replica back on that server,
> the queues may do the same thing again.
>
> What I saw here once, when I needed to kill a replica to get rid of
> stuck obituaries, and put it back again, was the PSERVER lost access
> to the queues when I put the new replica on, and a whole new set of
> hex file/directory names showed up in the queues location - but I
> didn't have to delete/define them, just stop and start Pserver.
>
> Of course, this was all quite a surprise, and very annoying to the
> users since I **THOUGHT** that a replica operation was not supposed to
> have this kind of impact (since there were a few other servers online
> holding replicas), and did it in the middle of the day.  What's the
> point of replication (besides recoverability) if you can't add/remove
> copies transparently?

Yes indeed, my point exactly.  Luckily I did this near the end of the
day, after most users had left, & got it fixed right away so they
never knew it happened.  Well, except for the Accounting folks
trying to print from the state's mainframe thru unicon Unix-to-
NetWare printing - which was broken until I remembered to export
the newly created queues...

Regards,
Lance

 

From tyates at ALDRIDGE-BORDEN.COM  Thu Jan  4 22:55:05 2001
From: tyates at ALDRIDGE-BORDEN.COM (Tom Yates)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:55:05 -0500
Subject: E-mail and computer/network usage policies
Message-ID: <sa54aadc.077@aldridge-borden.com>

Happy New Year to all!

Certainly many of you work in environments with written policies regarding e-mail and computer/network use.  I was wondering if any of you who have such documents, and are in a position that allows you to share such information, would mind forwarding a copy to me.  I have created an Internet Usage policy built around Elron's Internet Usage template, but I am currently looking for examples of e-mail and general computer/network usage policies, as well as security-specific policies which may have been implemented as company/institution-wide policy,  placed in a company's policy manual, and/or which must be acknowledged/signed by each employee.  I need to create these policies and guidelines for inclusion in our company policy manual, which is being updated and re-issued shortly.

Thanks in advance,

Tom Yates
Aldridge, Borden & Company, P.C.
334-834-6640, Ext. 224
334-265-9605, Fax
tyates at aldridge-borden.com
http://www.aldridge-borden.com

 

From John.Taft at DISNEY.COM  Thu Jan  4 23:21:39 2001
From: John.Taft at DISNEY.COM (Taft, John)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 18:21:39 -0500
Subject: Automatic File Purges
Message-ID: <0269E44EAE53D411B1880008C7E66FCE0A70E0@1CRP215.corp.disney.com>

I have such an NLM utility called CLEANVOL by Darwin Collins. I collected
this many moons ago. It would work well for this need. It can delete and/or
purge deleted files based on aging settings you specify. You can choose last
modified, accessed, or created dates. Very flexible. I don't know his
current URL, but if you desire the utility I can send you the .ZIP file.

-John Taft
No CNE, no MCSE, none of that stuff...

The opinions expressed here are my own, and not my employer's. But with
some thought they can become yours, too.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Parris [mailto:KPARRIS at SDE.STATE.SC.US]
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: Automatic File Purges


No, there are two SET parameters in the file system category, where you can
specify the minimum time after a file is deleted before NetWare is *allowed*
to automatically purge, but there is no automatic purge except for 'the
volume has filled up and I need the space now' in the system.

There are some purge/cleanup utilities out there... one I'm familiar with is
in the JRB Utilities package - you can specify "how long since deleted" or
"file size" or some other options for determining when to purge files.  But
you have to run them at a workstation, I don't know of any that run as NLM
on the server.

>>> ron.stonehouse at UALBERTA.CA 01/04/01 04:32PM >>>
Last night our office ran a manual purge of our Netware 5.0 server (VOL1
only)  and came up with 447,310 files being purged. I'm sure I've read
somewhere that there is a setting in NetWare whereby we can have it
automatically purge the older files once they have reached a preset number
of days. I know you can set the purge attribute on directories but I want
to do at a system level (at least on VOL1 as that is where are user
directories are) and have it done automatically and on a regular basis.

Is this possible and if so can someone point me in the right direction.

Thanks

Ron

Ron Stonehouse
ron.stonehouse at ualberta.ca

 

From kevin.miller at MEDTRONIC.COM  Fri Jan  5 01:37:06 2001
From: kevin.miller at MEDTRONIC.COM (Kevin Miller)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 20:37:06 -0500
Subject: NAS and NetWare/NDS?
Message-ID: <sa54d0df.099@mspeos0.corp.medtronic.COM>

Is it possible to control network appliances (NAS) using NetWare/NDS?

Thanks,

Kevin

 

From mavery at MAIL.OTHERWHEN.COM  Fri Jan  5 03:01:08 2001
From: mavery at MAIL.OTHERWHEN.COM (Mike Avery)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 22:01:08 -0500
Subject: Automatic File Purges
Message-ID: <3A54D676.9048.8BD12D@localhost>

On 4 Jan 2001, at 14:32, Ronald Stonehouse wrote:

> Last night our office ran a manual purge of our Netware 5.0 server
> (VOL1 only)  and came up with 447,310 files being purged. I'm sure
> I've read somewhere that there is a setting in NetWare whereby we can
> have it automatically purge the older files once they have reached a
> preset number of days. I know you can set the purge attribute on
> directories but I want to do at a system level (at least on VOL1 as
> that is where are user directories are) and have it done automatically
> and on a regular basis.
>
> Is this possible and if so can someone point me in the right
> direction.

Go to http://support.novell.com and look for cron and the toolkit.
Both are server resident packages.  Cron will let you schedule jobs,
and toolkit has a purge command in it.

Once a week I purge all my volumes and then delete all the .bak,
.tmp, and other space wasting similar files over a week old.  It keeps
things under control, and still lets people find important backup files.

The crontab entry looks like this:

# clean up the disks, friday night at 11:00 PM
00   23     *   *     5   cleanup

and the cleanup.ncf file looks like this:
--- cleanup starts ---
rem cleanup.ncf
rem cleanup the system and make it nice and tidy
rem
rem we will delete all temp files we can find,
rem we will purge deleted files,
rem we will delete backup files older than 7 days old.
rem this will leave backup files around for up to 14 days,
rem since we'll run this weekly

rem start with sys

chdir sys:
rm *.pm$ -s -e -y
rm *.tmp -s -e -y
purge -a
rm *.bak -s -e -d=07 -y

rem then do vol1

chdir vol1:
rm *.pm$ -s -e -y
rm *.tmp -s -e -y
purge -a
rm *.bak -s -e -d=07 -y

rem then do print_queues

chdir print_queues:
rm *.pm$ -s -e -y
rm *.tmp -s -e -y
purge -a
rm *.bak -s -e -d=07 -y

rem then go back to sys
chdir sys:
--- end of cleanup.ncf ---

Hope this helps,
Mike

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                                          FAX (970)-642-0282#11
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From pixelbit at TPGI.COM.AU  Fri Jan  5 03:26:06 2001
From: pixelbit at TPGI.COM.AU (Ben Johnston)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 22:26:06 -0500
Subject: Configuring SLP after SAP
In-Reply-To: <200101042209.JAA11651@kryton.tpgi.com.au>
Message-ID: <NDBBJADGBFJIIMAOMHPEEEMACBAA.pixelbit@tpgi.com.au>

Hi Everyone,

I have several NW5.0 servers spread around the place and on this particular
side of the network SAP traffice is not allowed. Hence all servers are in
their own trees at each site. I now want to merge these trees together, but
first I need to get SLP running instead of SAP. Is there any good TIDS
around that tell you what to do, so far I keep getting SLP history or what
it's does...not how to get it working after having installed the servers
with IPX(SAP) and IP.

Thanks,

Ben Johnston

 

From dblack at FRONTWAY.COM  Fri Jan  5 13:49:55 2001
From: dblack at FRONTWAY.COM (Doug Black)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 08:49:55 -0500
Subject: NWCS Dedicated Link
Message-ID: <A18002DDE56DD21184050008C7B1601403F574E6@SNOHEX16.sarcom.com>

Tim Heywood <tch at IQX.CO.UK> wrote:

>   Just a little warning here, if you install a dedicated heartbeat link
> you  must manage the cluster from that link!  In other words
> the workstation manageing the cluster must be in the sam subnet as the
> cluster's heartbeat NIC's are using.


>   It's real fun if you don't expect it and the cluster fails to
> respond ;-)

Yeah, I ran into that.  Didn't really want to spend the money to replace the
crossover cable with a hub, so I just installed the NWCS snapins on the
server and run Console1 on the server console itself.

Doug Black
dblack at sarcom.com

 

From KPARRIS at SDE.STATE.SC.US  Fri Jan  5 15:00:16 2001
From: KPARRIS at SDE.STATE.SC.US (Kevin Parris)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 10:00:16 -0500
Subject: Puzzled about Print Queue Weirdness
Message-ID: <sa559c07.039@gw.state.sc.us>

You and me both, friend... if anyone can explain this, I'd sure like to
see the answer!

>>> Lance.Groth at STATE.MN.US 01/04/01 05:44PM >>>
>When the replica goes away,
> something about the identity of the object is altered somehow,

This is the part I don't understand.  If the queues exist on disk, and
NDS points to them properly with the object ID or whatever, and
said NDS info is replicated on the replica servers, why should the
object values change just because the replica on the queue server
is removed??

 

From ron.stonehouse at UALBERTA.CA  Fri Jan  5 15:36:45 2001
From: ron.stonehouse at UALBERTA.CA (Ronald Stonehouse)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 10:36:45 -0500
Subject: Automatic File Purges
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20010105083533.00a64f00@pop.srv.ualberta.ca>

Thanks to all that replied.

I now have lots of ideas to try. Hopefully Novell is "listening" and will
include this ability in their next release. To paraphrase Mr Spock from
StarTrek "it seems like a simple and logical thing to do".

Thanks again

Ron

At 08:00 PM 2001/01/04 -0700, you wrote:
>On 4 Jan 2001, at 14:32, Ronald Stonehouse wrote:
>
> > Last night our office ran a manual purge of our Netware 5.0 server
> > (VOL1 only)  and came up with 447,310 files being purged. I'm sure
> > I've read somewhere that there is a setting in NetWare whereby we can
> > have it automatically purge the older files once they have reached a
> > preset number of days. I know you can set the purge attribute on
> > directories but I want to do at a system level (at least on VOL1 as
> > that is where are user directories are) and have it done automatically
> > and on a regular basis.
> >
> > Is this possible and if so can someone point me in the right
> > direction.
>
>Go to http://support.novell.com and look for cron and the toolkit.
>Both are server resident packages.  Cron will let you schedule jobs,
>and toolkit has a purge command in it.
>
>Once a week I purge all my volumes and then delete all the .bak,
>.tmp, and other space wasting similar files over a week old.  It keeps
>things under control, and still lets people find important backup files.
>
>The crontab entry looks like this:
>
># clean up the disks, friday night at 11:00 PM
>00   23     *   *     5   cleanup
>
>and the cleanup.ncf file looks like this:
>--- cleanup starts ---
>rem cleanup.ncf
>rem cleanup the system and make it nice and tidy
>rem
>rem we will delete all temp files we can find,
>rem we will purge deleted files,
>rem we will delete backup files older than 7 days old.
>rem this will leave backup files around for up to 14 days,
>rem since we'll run this weekly
>
>rem start with sys
>
>chdir sys:
>rm *.pm$ -s -e -y
>rm *.tmp -s -e -y
>purge -a
>rm *.bak -s -e -d=07 -y
>
>rem then do vol1
>
>chdir vol1:
>rm *.pm$ -s -e -y
>rm *.tmp -s -e -y
>purge -a
>rm *.bak -s -e -d=07 -y
>
>rem then do print_queues
>
>chdir print_queues:
>rm *.pm$ -s -e -y
>rm *.tmp -s -e -y
>purge -a
>rm *.bak -s -e -d=07 -y
>
>rem then go back to sys
>chdir sys:
>--- end of cleanup.ncf ---
>
>Hope this helps,
>Mike
>
>--
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>                                            Voice (970)-642-0282
>                                           FAX (970)-642-0282#11
>                                                   ICQ: 83558928
>
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>
>A Randomly Selected Thought For The Day:
>     A conclusion is simply the place where you got tired of thinking.


Ron Stonehouse
ron.stonehouse at ualberta.ca

 

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From JRD at CC.USU.EDU  Fri Jan  5 16:57:44 2001
From: JRD at CC.USU.EDU (Joe Doupnik)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 11:57:44 -0500
Subject: Configuring SLP after SAP
Message-ID: <01JYJLHLAK0294G8RL@cc.usu.edu>

>I have several NW5.0 servers spread around the place and on this particular
>side of the network SAP traffice is not allowed. Hence all servers are in
>their own trees at each site. I now want to merge these trees together, but
>first I need to get SLP running instead of SAP. Is there any good TIDS
>around that tell you what to do, so far I keep getting SLP history or what
>it's does...not how to get it working after having installed the servers
>with IPX(SAP) and IP.
>Thanks,
>Ben Johnston
-----------
        You can read my presentation/paper on SLP: go to netlab1 or netlab2.
usu.edu, pick the Brainshare US/2000 section, grab binary PowerPoint file
tut161.ppt.
        Joe D.

 

From bvolpone at LUTHERCARE.ORG  Fri Jan  5 17:18:45 2001
From: bvolpone at LUTHERCARE.ORG (Brian Volpone)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 12:18:45 -0500
Subject: Automatic File Purges
Message-ID: <sa55bc24.022@luthercare>

I also use CRON and TOOLBOX for purging, but will it purge based on date? I've never really looked, because the volume I want purged is ok to use PURGE -A. Also, be aware that there is a subdirectory limitation with Tookbox. It only purges like 8 layers deep or something. I don't remember the exact amount.

Brian Volpone, CNE
Network Support Specialist/Network Administrator
LUTHERCARE, Lititz, PA
email: bvolpone at luthercare.org  OR bvolpone at success.net 

>>> Dave Nelson <DJN at GTY.CI.HENDERSON.NV.US> 01/04/01 05:21PM >>>
You can download CRON.NLM and the Enhanced Toolbox from Novell's website.  The enhanced toolbox provides a server-side purge utility that you can use in conjunction with Cron to schedule purges on your server.  I've been running this type of configuration for almost a year now and it works like a champ.

HTH!
? Dave

David J. Nelson, CCNA, CNE, MCP, CLP, N+
Network Specialist II
City of Henderson
240 Water Street
Henderson, Nevada 89015
Tel: 702.565.3851
Fax: 702.566.2296
Cell: 702.373-2932
E-Mail: djn at ci.henderson.nv.us 
Home Page: http://www.cityofhenderson.com 

> Last night our office ran a manual purge of our Netware 5.0 server (VOL1
> only)  and came up with 447,310 files being purged. I'm sure I've read
> somewhere that there is a setting in NetWare whereby we can have it
> automatically purge the older files once they have reached a preset number
> of days. I know you can set the purge attribute on directories but I want
> to do at a system level (at least on VOL1 as that is where are user
> directories are) and have it done automatically and on a regular basis.
> 
> Is this possible and if so can someone point me in the right direction.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Ron
> 
> Ron Stonehouse
> ron.stonehouse at ualberta.ca

 

From network at KASB.ORG  Fri Jan  5 17:21:30 2001
From: network at KASB.ORG (TOM SIEMERS)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 12:21:30 -0500
Subject: login problems
Message-ID: <sa55ae29.002@kasb.org>

This morning something strange has started. All users that are logged on the network are able to work fine. If a user logs off then tries to log back on, they get an error message about not having sufficient rights to attach to a printer, one that we have LPT3 redirected to that reattaches at each login. Their desktop seems to appear OK, but if they try to print to any of our network printers they get a message that they don't have rights to the queue (everybody has access to all printer queues.) If they look at any of the network mappings it shows no space available on the server. But on users that have remained logged on everything works fine.

The part really troubles me is that this also applies to the admin login.

The server looks fine, no error messages, nothing unusual there. I'm taking the network down in about 45 minutes and running DSREPAIR, VREPAIR, hoping that takes care of it. I'd purge the volume but since admin's login is kind of hosed I'm not sure that's a good idea. Anybody ever seen anything like this?

Windows98
Client32 versions vary, 2.2 to 3.3
IntraNetWare 4.11, SP6

Thanks.

Tom




Tom Siemers
Technology Specialist
Kansas Association of School Boards
network at kasb.org

 

From bvolpone at LUTHERCARE.ORG  Fri Jan  5 17:23:49 2001
From: bvolpone at LUTHERCARE.ORG (Brian Volpone)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 12:23:49 -0500
Subject: login problems
Message-ID: <sa55bd54.024@luthercare>

I've seen this when you run out of licenses for some reason. Do you have
connections available?

Brian Volpone, CNE
Network Support Specialist/Network Administrator
LUTHERCARE, Lititz, PA
email: bvolpone at luthercare.org  OR bvolpone at success.net

>>> TOM SIEMERS <network at KASB.ORG> 01/05/01 12:20PM >>>
This morning something strange has started. All users that are logged
on the network are able to work fine. If a user logs off then tries to
log back on, they get an error message about not having sufficient
rights to attach to a printer, one that we have LPT3 redirected to that
reattaches at each login. Their desktop seems to appear OK, but if they
try to print to any of our network printers they get a message that they
don't have rights to the queue (everybody has access to all printer
queues.) If they look at any of the network mappings it shows no space
available on the server. But on users that have remained logged on
everything works fine.

The part really troubles me is that this also applies to the admin
login.

The server looks fine, no error messages, nothing unusual there. I'm
taking the network down in about 45 minutes and running DSREPAIR,
VREPAIR, hoping that takes care of it. I'd purge the volume but since
admin's login is kind of hosed I'm not sure that's a good idea. Anybody
ever seen anything like this?

Windows98
Client32 versions vary, 2.2 to 3.3
IntraNetWare 4.11, SP6

Thanks.

Tom




Tom Siemers
Technology Specialist
Kansas Association of School Boards
network at kasb.org

 

From network at KASB.ORG  Fri Jan  5 17:47:20 2001
From: network at KASB.ORG (TOM SIEMERS)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 12:47:20 -0500
Subject: login problems
Message-ID: <sa55b42b.007@kasb.org>

Hmmm.  Currently there's 44 out of 50 licenses used. That may have been the culprit. Thanks for the tip!


Tom


Tom Siemers
Technology Specialist
Kansas Association of School Boards
network at kasb.org

>>> Brian Volpone <bvolpone at LUTHERCARE.ORG> 01/05/01 11:25AM >>>
I've seen this when you run out of licenses for some reason. Do you have
connections available?

Brian Volpone, CNE
Network Support Specialist/Network Administrator
LUTHERCARE, Lititz, PA
email: bvolpone at luthercare.org  OR bvolpone at success.net 

 

From corey at HOMETEK.COM  Fri Jan  5 18:11:46 2001
From: corey at HOMETEK.COM (Corey Mang)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 13:11:46 -0500
Subject: SLP
Message-ID: <3A560E46.30A9B6FA@hometek.com>

Thanks for the reply Joe,

This is a new installation. Single server. When the installation was
first completed the SLP screen displayed. Everything appeared normal. I
wrestled with the DHCP client,  attempting to connect to an ADSL service
here in BC that uses supernetting. NAT would not function in this
configuration and after seeking advice from several sources with no
success, I switched the customer over to a cable service; connectivity
problems solved. At some point I do not recall, I began to recieve the
SLP UA warning.

I followed the intructions you provided another list recipient. I have
applied support pack 1, created the SLP DA and scope objects, and run
dsrepair. When I run slpda from the console I recieve the error 'DA has
not been configured for any scopes or containers. SLP DA not loaded'.

Thanks again for the input

Corey


Please describe your configuration in a bit more detail, as well as what

 you are trying to accomplish.

 Is this a new server in an exisiting network, where an SLPDA is already

 established?

 -----------------------------------------
 Joe Acquisto
 SUNY New Paltz
 845-257-3134 (V)
 845-257-6900 (F)
 -----------------------------------------

 >>> Corey Mang <corey at HOMETEK.COM> 01/04/01 01:38PM >>>
 Happy New year to all,

 I recently installed a new server using NetWare 5.1. After some
 initial
 problems regarding an attempted use of the DHCP server client with
 ADSL,
 I switched the internet connection to Shaw cable. The internet
 connection and NAT now function perfectly.

 The SLP screen that used to display upon start-up no longer appears. I
 now recieve the message "SLP UA WARNING: Unable to contact directory
 agent. Verify DA availability, IP connectivity, DA discovery options
 and
 configuration." I have only two configured IP address. One internal,
 one
 external. Both are recognized immediately upon unloading and reloading
 of SLPTCP.  I have not changed any of the defaults for SLP.CFG.

 Any input greatly appreciated.

 Corey Mang

 

From maryb at UMICH.EDU  Fri Jan  5 18:21:02 2001
From: maryb at UMICH.EDU (MaryBeth Stuenkel)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 13:21:02 -0500
Subject: SLP
References: <3A560E46.30A9B6FA@hometek.com>
Message-ID: <04ac01c07744$430841f0$8c5bd38d@maryblaptop>

Check out Novell's AppNotes at
http://developer.novell.com/research/index.htm and search for SLP.  I
particularly found "Understanding and Configuring SLP Directory Agents and
Scopes" from April, 2000 helpful.  However, there are several others, good
for reference and background.

--MaryBeth

----- Original Message -----

> Thanks for the reply Joe,
>
> This is a new installation. Single server. When the installation was
> first completed the SLP screen displayed. Everything appeared normal. I
> wrestled with the DHCP client,  attempting to connect to an ADSL service
> here in BC that uses supernetting. NAT would not function in this
> configuration and after seeking advice from several sources with no
> success, I switched the customer over to a cable service; connectivity
> problems solved. At some point I do not recall, I began to recieve the
> SLP UA warning.
>
> I followed the intructions you provided another list recipient. I have
> applied support pack 1, created the SLP DA and scope objects, and run
> dsrepair. When I run slpda from the console I recieve the error 'DA has
> not been configured for any scopes or containers. SLP DA not loaded'.
>
> Thanks again for the input
>
> Corey
>
>
> Please describe your configuration in a bit more detail, as well as what
>
>  you are trying to accomplish.
>
>  Is this a new server in an exisiting network, where an SLPDA is already
>
>  established?
>
>  -----------------------------------------
>  Joe Acquisto
>  SUNY New Paltz
>  845-257-3134 (V)
>  845-257-6900 (F)
>  -----------------------------------------
>
>  >>> Corey Mang <corey at HOMETEK.COM> 01/04/01 01:38PM >>>
>  Happy New year to all,
>
>  I recently installed a new server using NetWare 5.1. After some
>  initial
>  problems regarding an attempted use of the DHCP server client with
>  ADSL,
>  I switched the internet connection to Shaw cable. The internet
>  connection and NAT now function perfectly.
>
>  The SLP screen that used to display upon start-up no longer appears. I
>  now recieve the message "SLP UA WARNING: Unable to contact directory
>  agent. Verify DA availability, IP connectivity, DA discovery options
>  and
>  configuration." I have only two configured IP address. One internal,
>  one
>  external. Both are recognized immediately upon unloading and reloading
>  of SLPTCP.  I have not changed any of the defaults for SLP.CFG.
>
>  Any input greatly appreciated.
>
>  Corey Mang

 

From JRD at CC.USU.EDU  Fri Jan  5 18:30:28 2001
From: JRD at CC.USU.EDU (Joe Doupnik)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 13:30:28 -0500
Subject: SLP
Message-ID: <01JYJOP9US2Q94G3H2@cc.usu.edu>

>Thanks for the reply Joe,
>
>This is a new installation. Single server. When the installation was
>first completed the SLP screen displayed. Everything appeared normal. I
>wrestled with the DHCP client,  attempting to connect to an ADSL service
>here in BC that uses supernetting. NAT would not function in this
>configuration and after seeking advice from several sources with no
>success, I switched the customer over to a cable service; connectivity
>problems solved. At some point I do not recall, I began to recieve the
>SLP UA warning.
>
>I followed the intructions you provided another list recipient. I have
>applied support pack 1, created the SLP DA and scope objects, and run
>dsrepair. When I run slpda from the console I recieve the error 'DA has
>not been configured for any scopes or containers. SLP DA not loaded'.
>
>Thanks again for the input
>
>Corey
------------
        Look in NDS, via nwadmn32 and see what it has for SLP support.
Use the examples in my paper for comparison. Also check your etc/hosts,
etc/slp.cfg, and etc/resolv.cfg files for proper IP configuration because
you did make that provider change. If necessary remove the SLP material
from NDS and regenerate it (usually loading slpda will do this, but double
check to make sure).
        Joe D.

 

From ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU  Fri Jan  5 18:33:49 2001
From: ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU (Joe Acquisto)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 13:33:49 -0500
Subject: login problems
Message-ID: <sa55c2fe.027@lan.newpaltz.edu>

Can you see any volumes, etc on the server hosting the queues?

Last week I experienced a similar problem, and again this morning.
Seems like users are unable to gain access to anything on the affected
server.

Last week it was associated with high cpu util.  A ds update, killing
affected replicas fixed that.   Today is not the same problem.

I am pulling the few remaining follicles out right now.

This is especially interesting as we are now seriously looking at
e-dir.  A mixed bag.


-----------------------------------------
Joe Acquisto
SUNY New Paltz
845-257-3134 (V)
845-257-6900 (F)
-----------------------------------------

>>> TOM SIEMERS <network at KASB.ORG> 01/05/01 12:20PM >>>
This morning something strange has started. All users that are logged
on the network are able to work fine. If a user logs off then tries to
log back on, they get an error message about not having sufficient
rights to attach to a printer, one that we have LPT3 redirected to that
reattaches at each login. Their desktop seems to appear OK, but if they
try to print to any of our network printers they get a message that they
don't have rights to the queue (everybody has access to all printer
queues.) If they look at any of the network mappings it shows no space
available on the server. But on users that have remained logged on
everything works fine.

The part really troubles me is that this also applies to the admin
login.

The server looks fine, no error messages, nothing unusual there. I'm
taking the network down in about 45 minutes and running DSREPAIR,
VREPAIR, hoping that takes care of it. I'd purge the volume but since
admin's login is kind of hosed I'm not sure that's a good idea. Anybody
ever seen anything like this?

Windows98
Client32 versions vary, 2.2 to 3.3
IntraNetWare 4.11, SP6

Thanks.

Tom




Tom Siemers
Technology Specialist
Kansas Association of School Boards
network at kasb.org

 

From Mark.Puchalski at COUZENS.COM  Fri Jan  5 19:47:05 2001
From: Mark.Puchalski at COUZENS.COM (Mark Puchalski)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 14:47:05 -0500
Subject: Groupwise Web Access Timeout
Message-ID: <sa55de3e.042@xjp.couzens.com>

For 5.5.4 (non-EP), In NWAdmin, open up your WebAccess object, click on the Access Control button and open your class of service that opens WA to your users.  Within that you can adjust the timeout you are talking about.

I had the same issue with the 20-min timeout, so I've increased my to 60 minutes.

>>> cdurnal at FWLAW.COM 1/2/2001 5:03:03 PM >>>
After 20 minutes of inactivity, the GW web access times out (logs one out). This can be a pain when composing a lengthy e-mail message. Can this be changed? If so how/where?

Thanks


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From network at KASB.ORG  Fri Jan  5 20:57:09 2001
From: network at KASB.ORG (TOM SIEMERS)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 15:57:09 -0500
Subject: login problems
Message-ID: <sa55e0b5.008@kasb.org>

Joe - 
Yes, we could see the volumes, queues, etc. Could read files from the network. Couldn't save, print to network printers, etc. Very unnverving.
I think what happened was we reached our maximum licence count. When I checked the server we had 44 out of 50 licenses used. (By then users were able to login normally.) I checked the connection list and FaxServe had 12 connections! After bouncing the servers the count dropped to a much more reasonable count of 1. Another good excuse to replace FaxServe, I guess.

Tom


Tom Siemers
Technology Specialist
Kansas Association of School Boards
network at kasb.org

>>> Joe Acquisto <ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU> 01/05/01 11:49AM >>>
Can you see any volumes, etc on the server hosting the queues?

Last week I experienced a similar problem, and again this morning.
Seems like users are unable to gain access to anything on the affected
server.

Last week it was associated with high cpu util.  A ds update, killing
affected replicas fixed that.   Today is not the same problem.

I am pulling the few remaining follicles out right now.

This is especially interesting as we are now seriously looking at
e-dir.  A mixed bag.


-----------------------------------------
Joe Acquisto
SUNY New Paltz
845-257-3134 (V)
845-257-6900 (F)
-----------------------------------------

>>> TOM SIEMERS <network at KASB.ORG> 01/05/01 12:20PM >>>
This morning something strange has started. All users that are logged
on the network are able to work fine. If a user logs off then tries to
log back on, they get an error message about not having sufficient
rights to attach to a printer, one that we have LPT3 redirected to that
reattaches at each login. Their desktop seems to appear OK, but if they
try to print to any of our network printers they get a message that they
don't have rights to the queue (everybody has access to all printer
queues.) If they look at any of the network mappings it shows no space
available on the server. But on users that have remained logged on
everything works fine.

The part really troubles me is that this also applies to the admin
login.

The server looks fine, no error messages, nothing unusual there. I'm
taking the network down in about 45 minutes and running DSREPAIR,
VREPAIR, hoping that takes care of it. I'd purge the volume but since
admin's login is kind of hosed I'm not sure that's a good idea. Anybody
ever seen anything like this?

Windows98
Client32 versions vary, 2.2 to 3.3
IntraNetWare 4.11, SP6

Thanks.

Tom




Tom Siemers
Technology Specialist
Kansas Association of School Boards
network at kasb.org

 

From network at KASB.ORG  Fri Jan  5 21:02:16 2001
From: network at KASB.ORG (TOM SIEMERS)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 16:02:16 -0500
Subject: Automatic File Purges
Message-ID: <sa55e1e5.011@kasb.org>

Since we're wishing - 
I wish there was a way to flag a file with a "kill" date. That is, after a certain date the file would be automagically deleted by the operating system.
Of course since the only files that get deleted by users now are files that they are going to need in the next half hour I suppose a kill date would really make life interesting.

Tom


Tom Siemers
Technology Specialist
Kansas Association of School Boards
network at kasb.org

>>> Ronald Stonehouse <ron.stonehouse at UALBERTA.CA> 01/05/01 09:35AM >>>
Thanks to all that replied.

I now have lots of ideas to try. Hopefully Novell is "listening" and will
include this ability in their next release. To paraphrase Mr Spock from
StarTrek "it seems like a simple and logical thing to do".

Thanks again

Ron

 

From tkorhely at KGTECHNOLOGY.COM  Fri Jan  5 21:24:48 2001
From: tkorhely at KGTECHNOLOGY.COM (Tom Korhely)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 16:24:48 -0500
Subject: Upgrading hard drive in 4.11 server
Message-ID: <21E5347D056FD3118DC700A0C903AA2B13B35A@KIRCH01>

I am currently running a Dell PowerEdge 2300 Netware 4.11 server with 2
4GB hard drives. I am in the process of adding a 9.1gb SCSI hard drive.
Our APPS and DATA volumes are extremely low.  I would like to add 6-7
GB to the APPS volume and the rest to the DATA.  What would be the
best way of going about this?

I have purchased the new HD directly from Dell.
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From Lester.Bennett at TREASURY.QLD.GOV.AU  Fri Jan  5 21:53:58 2001
From: Lester.Bennett at TREASURY.QLD.GOV.AU (Lester.Bennett at TREASURY.QLD.GOV.AU)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 16:53:58 -0500
Subject: Upgrading hard drive in 4.11 server
Message-ID: <4A2569CB.007869F6.00@nt_trs_16.treasury.qld.gov.au>

What volumes and what size exist on the current 2 x 4GB drives?

Lester Bennett





Tom Korhely <tkorhely at KGTECHNOLOGY.COM> on 06/01/2001 07:34:30 AM

Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU>

To:   NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
cc:    (bcc: Lester Bennett/Treasury_QLD_GOV/AU)
Subject:  Upgrading hard drive in 4.11 server




I am currently running a Dell PowerEdge 2300 Netware 4.11 server with 2
4GB hard drives. I am in the process of adding a 9.1gb SCSI hard drive.
Our APPS and DATA volumes are extremely low.  I would like to add 6-7
GB to the APPS volume and the rest to the DATA.  What would be the
best way of going about this?

I have purchased the new HD directly from Dell.

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From fhammond at NMSU.EDU  Sat Jan  6 08:13:04 2001
From: fhammond at NMSU.EDU (Forrest Hammond)
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 03:13:04 -0500
Subject: Compaq ML330 server
References: <200012291728.KAA08461@dns1.nmsu.edu>
Message-ID: <3A569ACA.899D81ED@nmsu.edu>

Mary - you were right on.  Thanks for the help.



Mary Van Engelen wrote:

> Now that I'm at work....
> The name of the directory to create on the C: partition is NWUPDATE.
> The help file on the SmartStart CD is nwprmeng.hlp in the CPQHLP folder.
>
> At 12/29/2000 06:52 AM, Mary Van Engelen wrote:
> >Just went through this with an ML350.  Don't know what version of NW you
> >are trying to install, but I was installing NW 4.2. There's a directory you
> >need to create on the C: partition to contain all the Compaq drivers.  I
> >can't remember what the name of it is, but there's a help file (.hlp) on
> >either the SmartStart CD or the other CD (sorry, I've been on vacation...)
> >that takes you through a manual install (i.e., not using SmartStart).  It
> >will tell you which drivers need to be in the folder. There's a folder on
> >the CD that contains all the .hlp files.  Filenames are cryptic, so I can't
> >remember what that is either, but I'm sure you can use Find to get it.
> >
> >Word of advice...keep the cover on the server.  The ML350 overheated in a
> >matter of minutes when I left the cover off.  I never had a problem with
> >that before and it took a couple of calls to tech support before I found out.
> >
> >Mary
> >
> >
> >At 12/29/00 04:30 AM, Forrest E. Hammond wrote:
> >>I have a new ML330 server that I am trying to do a fresh install on.  It
> >>gets to
> >>the point where it loads the IDECD and stops.  Any ideas.
> >>
> >>320 MB ram - 2 9.1 gb hard drives - standard network/video controller.
> >>
> >>Pretty simple I think.
> >>
> >>Thanks

 

From tch at IQX.CO.UK  Sat Jan  6 13:14:22 2001
From: tch at IQX.CO.UK (Tim Heywood, IQX)
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 08:14:22 -0500
Subject: Upgrading hard drive in 4.11 server
References: <21E5347D056FD3118DC700A0C903AA2B13B35A@KIRCH01>
Message-ID: <002901c077e3$23022ac0$0a00a8c0@toy>

Use Server Magic to copy or move the volumes onto the new disk, this will then give you free space on the original disks that you can then play with.
************************************************
Tim Heywood
IQX Ltd.
Scotland
(God's Country)

"Like a splinter in your mind... Driving you MAD"
************************************************
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tom Korhely 
  Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
  To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU 
  Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 9:34 PM
  Subject: Upgrading hard drive in 4.11 server


  I am currently running a Dell PowerEdge 2300 Netware 4.11 server with 2
  4GB hard drives. I am in the process of adding a 9.1gb SCSI hard drive.
  Our APPS and DATA volumes are extremely low.  I would like to add 6-7
  GB to the APPS volume and the rest to the DATA.  What would be the
  best way of going about this?  

  I have purchased the new HD directly from Dell.
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From Alar at MTK.UT.EE  Sat Jan  6 15:22:14 2001
From: Alar at MTK.UT.EE (Alar Pandis)
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 10:22:14 -0500
Subject: DNS/DHCP Management Console and red "X" over DHCP server icon
Message-ID: <NBBBLEPANKOBBECLEKCIGEDLEOAA.Alar@mtk.ut.ee>

Hi!

NW51 SP2, DNS/DHCP Management Console. Working well, but red "X" displays on
DHCP server object in management console as is described in TID 10019035 and
I can't restart service from there - I must unload and load DHCPSRVR.NLM
from server console (after I add IP-addresses). Soft is latest (I suppose) -
from NW51 CD.
Any hints?

More thanks,
Alar.

 

From SEUFERER at ALAN.AMESLAB.GOV  Sat Jan  6 17:50:03 2001
From: SEUFERER at ALAN.AMESLAB.GOV (David Seuferer)
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 12:50:03 -0500
Subject: NOVELL Digest - 4 Jan 2001 (#2001-8)
Message-ID: <sa57066a.055@alan>

Hello,
     Has anyone seen bad things happen after they installed
Service Pack 6a for Windows NT 4.0 on a BDC or PDC that's
using NDS for NT version 2.01?  By bad things I mean PDC 
and BDC can't talk to each other, logins start to fail on the BDC
and PDC with unexpected logon failures and the shares become 
unavailable.  Had to restore the PDC from backup, SP4, before 
things started working again.  TIA!!!!





David Seuferer, CNE
Ames Laboratory
Information Systems
seuferer at ameslab.gov
fax: (515) 294-5638
phone: (515) 294-6053



Do not meddle in the affairs of Wizards, for they are subtle and quick to
anger."  --  Gildor Inglorion

 

From g.visnevskis at KONTS.LV  Sat Jan  6 22:16:46 2001
From: g.visnevskis at KONTS.LV (Gatis Visnevskis)
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 17:16:46 -0500
Subject: Scan for new devices - hangs...
Message-ID: <3A57991D.ADDDCF7E@konts.lv>

Hi all

It is very strange,
i installed new SCSI hard drive in my 4.11 server, and after "hot"
plugging SCSI cable and power cable, choose "scan for new devices".
INSTALL.NLM now sits and waits...

Maybe there was problem because motor spin-up was delayed - and driver
didn't understand this??

SCSI setup is not designed to be "hot" plug in this server, however this
thing worked for me very well once.

Maybe some recommendations, what to do? I don't want to restart server
just because new hard drive installation failed. Is there some way to
initiate SCSI RESET on bus or something?

Cptn. Gasha

 

From dmoon at PERU.K12.IN.US  Sat Jan  6 22:49:28 2001
From: dmoon at PERU.K12.IN.US (dmoon at PERU.K12.IN.US)
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 17:49:28 -0500
Subject: NW51SP2A Problems
In-Reply-To: <sa4b145d.002@mail.pdc.k12.wi.us>
Message-ID: <NOVELL%2001010617492874@LSV.SYR.EDU>

Just for everyones info we installed sp2a on 4 servers running 5.1
the week after christmas.

Server 1-Main server with sp1 installed went fine but seems to be
running slower

Server 4- New install of 5.1 no patches seems ok.  still checking

Server 2-Groupwise-Would not reload.

Server 3-Border, Gwia, Web would not reload.

In desperation had to bring in CNE consultants and they spent 2.5
days getting us operational again.  In both cases after server
recovery they reinstalled the patch and blew it again.

Novell blames NICI encryption changes and needed updates but
they didn't install properly either.

Worse patch I have ever installed in 15 years of Novell.

dave Moon
Peru Community Schools

 

From JRD at CC.USU.EDU  Sun Jan  7 01:15:06 2001
From: JRD at CC.USU.EDU (Joe Doupnik)
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 20:15:06 -0500
Subject: Scan for new devices - hangs...
Message-ID: <01JYLH743WO294GC4R@cc.usu.edu>

>It is very strange,
>i installed new SCSI hard drive in my 4.11 server, and after "hot"
>plugging SCSI cable and power cable, choose "scan for new devices".
>INSTALL.NLM now sits and waits...
>
>Maybe there was problem because motor spin-up was delayed - and driver
>didn't understand this??
>
>SCSI setup is not designed to be "hot" plug in this server, however this
>thing worked for me very well once.
>
>Maybe some recommendations, what to do? I don't want to restart server
>just because new hard drive installation failed. Is there some way to
>initiate SCSI RESET on bus or something?
>
>Cptn. Gasha
-----------
        I think you have no choice but to restart the server. Apparently
the SCSI bus is stuck and won't become unstuck by itself. The lesson is
fairly clear: one runs a substantial risk when performing these hot changes.
        Joe D.

 

From elbourki at QGPC.COM.QA  Sun Jan  7 04:43:53 2001
From: elbourki at QGPC.COM.QA (Farag Elbourki)
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 23:43:53 -0500
Subject: Small Business Suite Version 5
Message-ID: <OFFE8F6C75.A1268A9D-ON432569CD.0018E3C7@qgpc.net>

Hi All,

Question 1.

Is Novell Small Business Suite Version 5 for Unique Market the same as
Netware 5? With that I mean is the operating system the same. Can I use the
same ArcserveIT 6.6 for Netware Enterprise Edition, for example, to backup
the servers.

Question 2.

I have a setup of Novell Small Business Suite Version 5 installed, with
ISDN connection to the Internet. Is there a way of configuring
Dial-On-Demand without installing a router?

Question 3.

Does Novell Small Business Suite support VPN? and if yes, can I set it up
so that people on the move can connect to the office? Or do I have to use
Novell Remote Connect?

Thanks,


Farag Elbourki, ITT/E3
Network Engineer
IT Department
Qatar General Petroleum Corporation
P. O. Box 47 - ITD, Doha, Qatar
Tel: (+974) 4402326, Fax: (+974) 4402051
elbourki at qgpc.com.qa

 

From randy at INTER-CORPORATE.COM  Sun Jan  7 08:53:01 2001
From: randy at INTER-CORPORATE.COM (Randolf Richardson)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 03:53:01 -0500
Subject: NOVELL Digest - 4 Jan 2001 (#2001-8)
In-Reply-To: <sa57066a.055@alan>
Message-ID: <14C80CD0518@mail.inter-corporate.net>

> Hello,
>      Has anyone seen bad things happen after they installed
> Service Pack 6a for Windows NT 4.0 on a BDC or PDC that's
> using NDS for NT version 2.01?  By bad things I mean PDC
> and BDC can't talk to each other, logins start to fail on the BDC
> and PDC with unexpected logon failures and the shares become
> unavailable.  Had to restore the PDC from backup, SP4, before things
> started working again.  TIA!!!!

        Microsoft's Support Pack 6a for Windows NT 4.0 is likely to blame
for the problems.  You'll probably need to re-install NDS for NT
after the Service Pack (as we usually have to do with most
applications -- it's a Microsoft thing).

Randolf Richardson - randolf at inter-corporate.com
Inter-Corporate Computer & Network Services, Inc.
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
http://www.inter-corporate.com/

"Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives."

 

From randy at INTER-CORPORATE.COM  Sun Jan  7 08:53:06 2001
From: randy at INTER-CORPORATE.COM (Randolf Richardson)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 03:53:06 -0500
Subject: Scan for new devices - hangs...
In-Reply-To: <3A57991D.ADDDCF7E@konts.lv>
Message-ID: <14C80CD5030@mail.inter-corporate.net>

> It is very strange,
> i installed new SCSI hard drive in my 4.11 server, and after "hot"
> plugging SCSI cable and power cable, choose "scan for new devices".
> INSTALL.NLM now sits and waits...
>
> Maybe there was problem because motor spin-up was delayed - and
> driver didn't understand this??

        It could be a parity jumper configuration mismatch (e.g., the new
device has a parity check setting that's opposite of the devices on
the rest of the bus).

        Another possibility is SCSI ID conflict.

        Also consider that termination power being supplied by this new
drive may also play a role in this SCSI bus freezing problem.

> SCSI setup is not designed to be "hot" plug in this server, however
> this thing worked for me very well once.

        That's likely part of the problem.  You undoubtedly "lucked in" the
first time.

> Maybe some recommendations, what to do? I don't want to restart
> server just because new hard drive installation failed. Is there
> some way to initiate SCSI RESET on bus or something?

        If you have any external devices, you could try power cycling one of
them in hopes that they might bring the SCSI bus back to life, but a
complete power cycle is probably a good idea after SCSI bus problems
(as a way to clear them out of all systems).

Randolf Richardson - randolf at inter-corporate.com
Inter-Corporate Computer & Network Services, Inc.
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
http://www.inter-corporate.com/

"Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives."

 

From admin at IAA.GOV.IL  Sun Jan  7 12:05:33 2001
From: admin at IAA.GOV.IL (Mike Glassman - Admin)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 07:05:33 -0500
Subject: NOVELL Digest - 4 Jan 2001 (#2001-8)
Message-ID: <7F4D39EF73659140A9DC38EB5FC875054869A4@hobit.IAADOM>

Randy is right.

The SP will change many things, and may possibly change NWGINA dll's as well
as reference to SAM etc.

In the case of SP6a which is refered to as a "must" system SP, with major
changes to things in the NT system, it is advisable to uninstall NDS4NT
prior to the upgrade, and reinstall afterwards.

Not nice, but as Randy says, it's M$.

Mike

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Randolf Richardson [SMTP:randy at inter-corporate.com]
> Sent: ? ????? 07 2001 10:30
> To:   NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
> Subject:      Re: NOVELL Digest - 4 Jan 2001 (#2001-8)
> 
> > Hello,
> >      Has anyone seen bad things happen after they installed
> > Service Pack 6a for Windows NT 4.0 on a BDC or PDC that's
> > using NDS for NT version 2.01?  By bad things I mean PDC
> > and BDC can't talk to each other, logins start to fail on the BDC
> > and PDC with unexpected logon failures and the shares become
> > unavailable.  Had to restore the PDC from backup, SP4, before things
> > started working again.  TIA!!!!
> 
>         Microsoft's Support Pack 6a for Windows NT 4.0 is likely to blame
> for the problems.  You'll probably need to re-install NDS for NT
> after the Service Pack (as we usually have to do with most
> applications -- it's a Microsoft thing).
> 
> Randolf Richardson - randolf at inter-corporate.com
> Inter-Corporate Computer & Network Services, Inc.
> Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
> http://www.inter-corporate.com/
> 
> "Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives."

 

From MJKRD1 at AOL.COM  Sun Jan  7 13:14:33 2001
From: MJKRD1 at AOL.COM (Mike Kanfer)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 08:14:33 -0500
Subject: NDS for NT and WIN2K
Message-ID: <4e.fc385b3.2789c5b3@aol.com>

Will NDS for NT run OK on a Windows 2000 machine?

 

From avi at MAIL.JCT.AC.IL  Sun Jan  7 13:17:10 2001
From: avi at MAIL.JCT.AC.IL (Avi Wollman)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 08:17:10 -0500
Subject: unable to map
Message-ID: <3A586CA8.E05E28BA@mail.jct.ac.il>

Some of my users are getting errors while MAPing in login script.
All of this is very sudden.
The Server is NW5.1 sp2a Client winNT 4.8

no problem found while mapping to other nw5.0 servers
no license problem
volumes and directories are readable so that leaves out a rights
problem.

I can browse to a directory and it still won't be able to map it.
Ideas ?!!!
--
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Avi Wollman - Network & Computing Support Engineer
Jerusalem College of Technology
POB 16031 Jerusalem 91160 Israel
Tel: (02)6751-207  Cell: (053)809-107 Fax: (02)6432-145
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

From g.visnevskis at KONTS.LV  Sun Jan  7 13:39:10 2001
From: g.visnevskis at KONTS.LV (Gatis Visnevskis)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 08:39:10 -0500
Subject: Scan for new devices - hangs...
References: <14C80CD5030@mail.inter-corporate.net>
Message-ID: <3A587151.A7B30AD@konts.lv>

Randolf Richardson wrote:
>
> > Maybe there was problem because motor spin-up was delayed - and
> > driver didn't understand this??
>
>         It could be a parity jumper configuration mismatch (e.g., the
> new device has a parity check setting that's opposite of the devices
> on the rest of the bus).

OK, i restarted server anyway (it has good uptimes).
I changed the Adaptec driver too, because it was old.

Likely the problem was "Staged Start" jumper, and if it is not there -
adaptec driver doesn't know how to manage SCSI disk, that is not started
motor and initialized.

It was so, because Monitor showed "Current Disk Requests=1", that was
stuck here. All other volumes dismounted OK.

In fact - "hot" plugging SCSI disks into running server is easy, as long
as you know all details of SCSI operation.
Of course, you need to put ID 0 drive terminated on the end of the bus,
and plan drive layaut for future.

Btw, how about dismounting volume, deactivating drive and "hot" remove
from server ???   I'll tell you the results anyway :)

Cptn. Gasha

"NT is faster from 0 to 60, but you need UNIX to get to 100"

 

From larry_burd at COMPUSERVE.COM  Sun Jan  7 16:02:12 2001
From: larry_burd at COMPUSERVE.COM (Larry Burd)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 11:02:12 -0500
Subject: 5.0 small business -25 user for sale
Message-ID: <200101071102_MC2-C0E5-7C91@compuserve.com>

I have a 5.0 small business edition 25 user license for sale.
pls contact me off list
larryburd at mail.com

 

From pauls681 at HOME.COM  Sun Jan  7 17:18:08 2001
From: pauls681 at HOME.COM (Paul Sheehan)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 12:18:08 -0500
Subject: Problems when upgrading to 3.3 client for 98.
Message-ID: <NOVELL%2001010712180851@LSV.SYR.EDU>

Im kind of new to the IT work world so this may sound like a stupid
ques to most of you who read this.
I work for a company wich uses novell 4.2 small buisness.
I recently upgraded the client to 3.3. The install went ok but i kept
getting these annoying messages that popped up from the server
telling
me that Win95 is write protected Update failed. The Client still
installed and it didnt happen on every pc. Win 95 is the dir wheer
the
files are for the client. Every time when the install goes into that
folder the message popps up. I first thought I didnt have rights to
the file system, which i didnt. I gave myself full access and made
sure there were no filters on that dir. It seemed to work on the next
2 systems i did. Then the message came back. I couldnt find anywhere
that the dir was write protected.
If anyone can shed some light on this I would really appreciate it.

 

From tch at IQX.CO.UK  Sun Jan  7 18:35:57 2001
From: tch at IQX.CO.UK (Tim Heywood, IQX)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 13:35:57 -0500
Subject: Small Business Suite Version 5
References: <OFFE8F6C75.A1268A9D-ON432569CD.0018E3C7@qgpc.net>
Message-ID: <002b01c078d9$4fa1e420$0a00a8c0@toy>

> Hi All,
>
> Question 1.
>
> Is Novell Small Business Suite Version 5 for Unique Market the same as
> Netware 5? With that I mean is the operating system the same. Can I use
the
> same ArcserveIT 6.6 for Netware Enterprise Edition, for example, to backup
> the servers.


Yes

> Question 2.
>
> I have a setup of Novell Small Business Suite Version 5 installed, with
> ISDN connection to the Internet. Is there a way of configuring
> Dial-On-Demand without installing a router?

Use NIAS, there is a quick config tool that you can find if you look at NEAT

> Question 3.
>
> Does Novell Small Business Suite support VPN? and if yes, can I set it up
> so that people on the move can connect to the office? Or do I have to use
> Novell Remote Connect?

NO   You would have to purchase this.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Farag Elbourki, ITT/E3
> Network Engineer
> IT Department
> Qatar General Petroleum Corporation
> P. O. Box 47 - ITD, Doha, Qatar
> Tel: (+974) 4402326, Fax: (+974) 4402051
> elbourki at qgpc.com.qa
>

 

From randy at INTER-CORPORATE.COM  Sun Jan  7 20:43:39 2001
From: randy at INTER-CORPORATE.COM (Randolf Richardson)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 15:43:39 -0500
Subject: unable to map
In-Reply-To: <3A586CA8.E05E28BA@mail.jct.ac.il>
Message-ID: <15859261007@mail.inter-corporate.net>

> Some of my users are getting errors while MAPing in login script.
> All of this is very sudden. The Server is NW5.1 sp2a Client winNT
> 4.8
>
> no problem found while mapping to other nw5.0 servers
> no license problem
> volumes and directories are readable so that leaves out a rights
> problem.
>
> I can browse to a directory and it still won't be able to map it.
> Ideas ?!!! --

        This is a common problem with Windows NT Workstation.  You may need
to apply a patch to Windows NT, then re-install Client32 (because
Windows NT support packs are known to interfere with existing
non-Microsoft applications; especially 3rd party network clients).

        The problem I've seen is that "MAP ROOT" sometimes fails, although
the mapping itself is successful as if the "ROOT" keyword was
completely ignored.

Randolf Richardson - randolf at inter-corporate.com
Inter-Corporate Computer & Network Services, Inc.
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
http://www.inter-corporate.com/

"Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives."

 

From randy at INTER-CORPORATE.COM  Sun Jan  7 20:43:50 2001
From: randy at INTER-CORPORATE.COM (Randolf Richardson)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 15:43:50 -0500
Subject: NOVELL Digest - 4 Jan 2001 (#2001-8)
In-Reply-To: <7F4D39EF73659140A9DC38EB5FC875054869A4@hobit.IAADOM>
Message-ID: <158594A220B@mail.inter-corporate.net>

[Snip]
> Randy is right.
>
> The SP will change many things, and may possibly change NWGINA dll's
> as well as reference to SAM etc.
>
> In the case of SP6a which is refered to as a "must" system SP, with
> major changes to things in the NT system, it is advisable to
> uninstall NDS4NT prior to the upgrade, and reinstall afterwards.
>
> Not nice, but as Randy says, it's M$.
>
> Mike

        Thanks for the confirmation Mike.  This aspect of Microsoft's
products really bugs me, and is one of the primary reasons I avoid
using their products as much as possible.

        Fortunately, here in B.C., Novell's products are gaining popularity
very quickly -- and we see evidence of this through the Vancouver
NetWare Users Group (www.vnug.org) which has also been gaining new
membership steadily for the past year and a half.

Randolf Richardson - randolf at inter-corporate.com
Inter-Corporate Computer & Network Services, Inc.
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
http://www.inter-corporate.com/

"Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives."

 

From randy at INTER-CORPORATE.COM  Sun Jan  7 20:49:31 2001
From: randy at INTER-CORPORATE.COM (Randolf Richardson)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 15:49:31 -0500
Subject: Scan for new devices - hangs...
In-Reply-To: <3A587151.A7B30AD@konts.lv>
Message-ID: <15872391A96@mail.inter-corporate.net>

[Snip]
> OK, i restarted server anyway (it has good uptimes).
> I changed the Adaptec driver too, because it was old.

        I hope you recorded the uptime in the log, along with a note about
hardware failure -- that makes for some pleasing math in the long
run.  =)

> Likely the problem was "Staged Start" jumper, and if it is not there
> - adaptec driver doesn't know how to manage SCSI disk, that is not
> started motor and initialized.

        This is an important feature, though.  It prevents a high load on
the power supply when the system is powered on.  Note to everyone who
uses this feature:  Disable the "quickboot" feature in your system
BIOS if you want all your devices to show up in the BIOS scan before
OS boot.

> It was so, because Monitor showed "Current Disk Requests=1", that
> was stuck here. All other volumes dismounted OK.

        I guess that means it was working okay.  8-P

> In fact - "hot" plugging SCSI disks into running server is easy, as
> long as you know all details of SCSI operation. Of course, you need
> to put ID 0 drive terminated on the end of the bus, and plan drive
> layaut for future.

        Do you find that SCSI works better with ID 0 on the end of the
chain, and terminated?

> Btw, how about dismounting volume, deactivating drive and "hot"
> remove from server ???   I'll tell you the results anyway :)

        This will be most interesting.

> Cptn. Gasha
>
> "NT is faster from 0 to 60, but you need UNIX to get to 100"

Randolf Richardson - randolf at inter-corporate.com
Inter-Corporate Computer & Network Services, Inc.
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
http://www.inter-corporate.com/

"Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives."

 

From randy at INTER-CORPORATE.COM  Sun Jan  7 20:56:51 2001
From: randy at INTER-CORPORATE.COM (Randolf Richardson)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 15:56:51 -0500
Subject: Problems when upgrading to 3.3 client for 98.
In-Reply-To: <NOVELL%2001010712180851@LSV.SYR.EDU>
Message-ID: <15891AD64C9@mail.inter-corporate.net>

> Im kind of new to the IT work world so this may sound like a stupid
> ques to most of you who read this. I work for a company wich uses
> novell 4.2 small buisness. I recently upgraded the client to 3.3.
> The install went ok but i kept getting these annoying messages that
> popped up from the server telling me that Win95 is write protected
> Update failed. The Client still installed and it didnt happen on
> every pc. Win 95 is the dir wheer the files are for the client.
> Every time when the install goes into that folder the message popps
> up. I first thought I didnt have rights to the file system, which i
> didnt. I gave myself full access and made sure there were no filters
> on that dir. It seemed to work on the next 2 systems i did. Then the
> message came back. I couldnt find anywhere that the dir was write
> protected. If anyone can shed some light on this I would really
> appreciate it.

        This is a strange problem.  You should try using a different
directory name because "Win95" is also on the Microsoft Windows 95
CD-ROM, and I'm wondering if there's some buggy code in Windows 95
that assumes any directory of this name as being on a CD-ROM...?

        Also, if you copied your expanded Client32 files using Windows
Explorer, then you most definitely have corruption.  Never use
Windows Explorer to copy large numbers of files -- always resort to
DOS and XCopy32 or NCopy (no long filenames) to do this reliably.

        Please let us know if that helps.

Randolf Richardson - randolf at inter-corporate.com
Inter-Corporate Computer & Network Services, Inc.
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
http://www.inter-corporate.com/

"Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives."

 

From randy at INTER-CORPORATE.COM  Sun Jan  7 21:08:17 2001
From: randy at INTER-CORPORATE.COM (Randolf Richardson)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 16:08:17 -0500
Subject: NDS for NT and WIN2K
In-Reply-To: <4e.fc385b3.2789c5b3@aol.com>
Message-ID: <158C2675023@mail.inter-corporate.net>

> Will NDS for NT run OK on a Windows 2000 machine?

        Yes.  If you want to be sure, however, you can always download a
free evaluation copy (or order a CD for USD$10) from the following
web page:

                Novell:  NDS eDirectory 8.5 Evaluation Software
                http://www.novell.com/products/nds/evaluation.html

        You might also want to contact 1-800-NetWare and ask the pre-sales
folks about Windows 2000 support.

Randolf Richardson - randolf at inter-corporate.com
Inter-Corporate Computer & Network Services, Inc.
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
http://www.inter-corporate.com/

"Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives."

 

From randy at INTER-CORPORATE.COM  Sun Jan  7 21:19:04 2001
From: randy at INTER-CORPORATE.COM (Randolf Richardson)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 16:19:04 -0500
Subject: DNS/DHCP Management Console and red "X" over DHCP server ico
In-Reply-To: <NBBBLEPANKOBBECLEKCIGEDLEOAA.Alar@mtk.ut.ee>
Message-ID: <158DA7B70C4@mail.inter-corporate.net>

> Hi!
>
> NW51 SP2, DNS/DHCP Management Console. Working well, but red "X"
> displays on DHCP server object in management console as is described
> in TID 10019035 and I can't restart service from there - I must
> unload and load DHCPSRVR.NLM from server console (after I add
> IP-addresses). Soft is latest (I suppose) - from NW51 CD. Any hints?

        Does it work if you switch over to the DNS console and click on the
"Refresh Tree" button?  I haven't tried this myself, but I do know
that these two are tied together very closely.

Randolf Richardson - randolf at inter-corporate.com
Inter-Corporate Computer & Network Services, Inc.
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
http://www.inter-corporate.com/

"Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives."

 

From randy at INTER-CORPORATE.COM  Sun Jan  7 21:21:18 2001
From: randy at INTER-CORPORATE.COM (Randolf Richardson)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 16:21:18 -0500
Subject: Groupwise 5.2 error
In-Reply-To: <3A54EB6A.7B656B0E@steadfast.ca>
Message-ID: <158F9A9000D@mail.inter-corporate.net>

> A user accesses her supervisors calendar, and has rights to make
> changes.  Periodically when she goes to do same, a message comes up
> that says " You do not have access to create this item in the
> calendar folder."  If she closes groupwise, then opens it again - it
> works fine as it should.
>
> Anyone have any ideas?  Thanks, Greg

        Have you applied any patches to GroupWise 5.2?

Randolf Richardson - randolf at inter-corporate.com
Inter-Corporate Computer & Network Services, Inc.
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
http://www.inter-corporate.com/

"Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives."

 

From randy at INTER-CORPORATE.COM  Sun Jan  7 21:21:21 2001
From: randy at INTER-CORPORATE.COM (Randolf Richardson)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 16:21:21 -0500
Subject: NAS and NetWare/NDS?
In-Reply-To: <sa54d0df.099@mspeos0.corp.medtronic.COM>
Message-ID: <158F9CD7B34@mail.inter-corporate.net>

> Is it possible to control network appliances (NAS) using
> NetWare/NDS?

        Which Network Appliances are you referring to?

Randolf Richardson - randolf at inter-corporate.com
Inter-Corporate Computer & Network Services, Inc.
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
http://www.inter-corporate.com/

"Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives."

 

From randy at INTER-CORPORATE.COM  Sun Jan  7 21:27:49 2001
From: randy at INTER-CORPORATE.COM (Randolf Richardson)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 16:27:49 -0500
Subject: Converting from Static to Dynamic TCP/IP addresses
In-Reply-To: <sa520230.074@lan.newpaltz.edu>
Message-ID: <159156D36C9@mail.inter-corporate.net>

> It appears that site bit the dust.  Or something equally
> distasteful.
>
> It may be sufficient to snapshot a before and after config, i.e.
> snapshot a PC that is setup as static, change it to DHCP, (*do not*
> restart) and snapshot again. (that would prevent some DHCP "info"
> key values from being populated and forced onto each subsequent
> station).
>
> Test this on a few, then let'er rip. errr, that is, roll it out
> slowly under controlled conditions.
[Snip]

        One could also shut down the DHCP server temporarily if a reboot is
required after all -- we don't want Windows to suddenly ask for a CD
after every boot now, do we?!?  ;-)

Randolf Richardson - randolf at inter-corporate.com
Inter-Corporate Computer & Network Services, Inc.
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
http://www.inter-corporate.com/

"Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives."

 

From randy at INTER-CORPORATE.COM  Sun Jan  7 21:27:50 2001
From: randy at INTER-CORPORATE.COM (Randolf Richardson)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 16:27:50 -0500
Subject: TFTP solution for NW 5.1
In-Reply-To: <sa52c1c2.095@lan.newpaltz.edu>
Message-ID: <159156D7822@mail.inter-corporate.net>

[Snip - TFTP was available in NetWare 4.11]
> Why do you need a server based solution?  There are several (?) TFTP
> solutions available that are PC (windows) based.
>
> Will those not work for these updates?

        Some servers don't have workstations connected to them.  Perhaps
this person is remotely controlling them, and wishes to perform a
download directly to the server.

        Another possibility is that the source of the files restricts by IP
address, and only the IP address of the server is permitted.

Randolf Richardson - randolf at inter-corporate.com
Inter-Corporate Computer & Network Services, Inc.
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
http://www.inter-corporate.com/

"Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives."

 

From JDelano at MBBC.EDU  Sun Jan  7 22:58:27 2001
From: JDelano at MBBC.EDU (Mr. John D. Delano)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 17:58:27 -0500
Subject: Off topic??? Reading a user's login name from a web browser
Message-ID: <3A589FB4.13316.E4CBB@localhost>

First, let me apologize in advance if this is too far off topic for this
list.  I have been struggling to find a way to programmatically
access the user's name from a web page, without the user having
to enter it in an HTML form.  I know Single sign-on has this
capability, but after searching Novell's developer site, I can't seem
to narrow in on any sample code that will do the trick.  At this
point, I'm not concerned about seeing if the user is authenticated...
I just want to find out who they are.

My goal is to setup something like what Novell is putting together
with their portal services.  I would gladly use the portal services
product, except I don't see any place I can purchase it, nor do I
have a clue when it is scheduled for release, and I need to put
something together rather quickly.

If anyone has any information that might lead me in the right
direction, I would greatly appreciate it.  Thanks in advance.


John D. Delano,
Information Systems Manager
Maranatha Baptist Bible College

 

From randy at INTER-CORPORATE.COM  Sun Jan  7 23:49:42 2001
From: randy at INTER-CORPORATE.COM (Randolf Richardson)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 18:49:42 -0500
Subject: Off topic??? Reading a user's login name from a web browser
In-Reply-To: <3A589FB4.13316.E4CBB@localhost>
Message-ID: <15B73262A4A@mail.inter-corporate.net>

        This is not off-topic, but it's probably more suitable in the Novell
DeveloperNet newsgroups because there aren't as many developers here.

> First, let me apologize in advance if this is too far off topic for
> this list.  I have been struggling to find a way to programmatically
> access the user's name from a web page, without the user having to
> enter it in an HTML form.  I know Single sign-on has this
> capability, but after searching Novell's developer site, I can't
> seem to narrow in on any sample code that will do the trick.  At
> this point, I'm not concerned about seeing if the user is
> authenticated... I just want to find out who they are.

        Has the user already logged in?  If so, by what method?  And which
web server are you using?

> My goal is to setup something like what Novell is putting together
> with their portal services.  I would gladly use the portal services
> product, except I don't see any place I can purchase it, nor do I
> have a clue when it is scheduled for release, and I need to put
> something together rather quickly.

        Novell's NetWare Portal is a free tool which comes bundled with
NetWare 5.1, so you needn't worry about purchasing it.

> If anyone has any information that might lead me in the right
> direction, I would greatly appreciate it.  Thanks in advance.

        Try posting this question in the Novell DeveloperNet newsgroups as
well -- it's possible that another developer has already accomplished
the same thing.

Randolf Richardson - randolf at inter-corporate.com
Inter-Corporate Computer & Network Services, Inc.
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
http://www.inter-corporate.com/

"Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives."

 

From racquist at HOME.COM  Mon Jan  8 01:32:41 2001
From: racquist at HOME.COM (Richard Acquistapace)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 20:32:41 -0500
Subject: Problems when upgrading to 3.3 client for 98.
References: <NOVELL%2001010712180851@LSV.SYR.EDU>
Message-ID: <3A5918DC.6A5C9535@home.com>

Paul Sheehan wrote:
>
> Im kind of new to the IT work world so this may sound like a stupid
> ques to most of you who read this.
> I work for a company wich uses novell 4.2 small buisness.
> I recently upgraded the client to 3.3. The install went ok but i kept
> getting these annoying messages that popped up from the server
> telling
> me that Win95 is write protected Update failed. The Client still
> installed and it didnt happen on every pc. Win 95 is the dir wheer
> the
> files are for the client. Every time when the install goes into that
> folder the message popps up. I first thought I didnt have rights to
> the file system, which i didnt. I gave myself full access and made
> sure there were no filters on that dir. It seemed to work on the next
> 2 systems i did. Then the message came back. I couldnt find anywhere
> that the dir was write protected.
> If anyone can shed some light on this I would really appreciate it.

I had a encountered an annoyance such as this a couple months ago.  At
first, I questioned the NWClient.  I changed that from 3.1 to 3.3 with
no results.

As I researched the problem I found myself looking at the WIN95
Policies.  BINGO.  I loaded the Policy Editor (POLEDIT.EXE) onto the
system.  There are a few steps you need to go through SETTINGS,
ADD/REMOVE PROGRAMS, click on the Windows Setup tab and then click "Have
Disk".  Insert your WIN95 CD and point it to ADMIN\APPTOOLS.  The Policy
Editor files will load when you complete you will be able to utilize the
POLEDIT.EXE under C:\WINDOWS.

After running POLEDIT.EXE, use the "Open Registry" under the File menu
and try taking a look at LOCAL COMPUTER.  Within that you might want to
look under System.  Check out what is going on there.  Be careful what
you delete.  Try this on a PC that you can "test".

If you continue to have problems respond back to this reply.

Regards,

Richard Acquistapace

 

From racquist at HOME.COM  Mon Jan  8 01:53:25 2001
From: racquist at HOME.COM (Richard Acquistapace)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 20:53:25 -0500
Subject: login problems
References: <sa55b42b.007@kasb.org>
Message-ID: <3A591DB8.6EAC41E3@home.com>

TOM SIEMERS wrote:
>
> Hmmm.  Currently there's 44 out of 50 licenses used. That may have been the culprit. Thanks for the tip!
>
> Tom
>
> Tom Siemers
> Technology Specialist
> Kansas Association of School Boards
> network at kasb.org
>
> >>> Brian Volpone <bvolpone at LUTHERCARE.ORG> 01/05/01 11:25AM >>>
> I've seen this when you run out of licenses for some reason. Do you have
> connections available?
>
> Brian Volpone, CNE
> Network Support Specialist/Network Administrator
> LUTHERCARE, Lititz, PA
> email: bvolpone at luthercare.org  OR bvolpone at success.net

Did you run DSREPAIR?  If so, what were the results?

Regards,

Richard Acquistapace

 

From fubarsnafu69 at YAHOO.COM  Mon Jan  8 04:55:26 2001
From: fubarsnafu69 at YAHOO.COM (Fred James)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 23:55:26 -0500
Subject: NW 5.1 & DNS issue
Message-ID: <20010108045524.46620.qmail@web10702.mail.yahoo.com>

I have a NW5.1-SP2. I have 2 NIC's in it. 1st NIC is local LAN - 2nd
NIC is connected to a cable modem. I was using DHCPCLNT.NLM to get
Address from Cable Modem, but it has started to abend server whenever
it loads - so I decide to hard code this address. I was using a
winroute lite software on NT4 to act as a NAT translator(this box
decide to give up the ghost this weekend).  I decided it was finally
time to use NW5.1 server to do this.

I configured the 2nd NIC on cable modem to the IP address and gateway
address that I received from dhcpclnt.  I set the default route to the
IP address of the 2nd NIC. I have resolv.cfg setup to point to correct
dns servers. This works fine. I can ping novell.com & NTP can access
internet time source.

The problem I am having is when I go to enable NAT on the 2nd NIC I set
it to dynamic - I can not ping Novell.com - but can ping the acutal IP
address of novell. NTP cannot contact the servers for timesync.

In order to get it to work I have to remove the board for inetcfg -
insert it back into autoexec.ncf - reboot - then add back to intecfg.
but don't enable NAT.

Anybody have any ideas on this

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From PCatelinet at CGSH.COM  Mon Jan  8 05:48:08 2001
From: PCatelinet at CGSH.COM (Phil Catelinet)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 00:48:08 -0500
Subject: volume trustee rights disappear
Message-ID: <OFE2BADD1F.C2541116-ON852569CE.001F910D@cgsh.com>

System is NW 5.1 SP1, NSS volumes.  DS 8, ver 8.59.

We have a situation that seems to be affecting our worldwide network.
Users report 8804 errors on login when trying to map to certain volumes.  A
check of the volume reveals that the volume has no trustee rights assigned,
so no one can see it.  After reassigning the trustee rights the users can
map to the drive.  I've run DSREPAIRs (unattended full)  on the affected
servers but that doesn't seem to help.  Is this some sort of DS corruption?
Is there a particular DSREPAIR process that I should run to fix this?

Thanks,
Phil

 

From Lester.Bennett at TREASURY.QLD.GOV.AU  Mon Jan  8 05:53:42 2001
From: Lester.Bennett at TREASURY.QLD.GOV.AU (Lester.Bennett at TREASURY.QLD.GOV.AU)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 00:53:42 -0500
Subject: volume trustee rights disappear
Message-ID: <4A2569CE.002028D7.00@nt_trs_16.treasury.qld.gov.au>

We lose Trustee Rights to directories if we use Windows Explorer on a
Windows NT 4.0 Workstation and view the properties of the directory i.e.
right click on the directory and select properties.
Haven't been able to work out why but it could be the same problem you're
having.

Lester Bennett
Queensland Treasury
Brisbane, Qld.,  Australia





Phil Catelinet <PCatelinet at CGSH.COM> on 01/08/2001 03:49:36 PM

Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU>

To:   NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
cc:    (bcc: Lester Bennett/Treasury_QLD_GOV/AU)
Subject:  volume trustee rights disappear




System is NW 5.1 SP1, NSS volumes.  DS 8, ver 8.59.

We have a situation that seems to be affecting our worldwide network.
Users report 8804 errors on login when trying to map to certain volumes.  A
check of the volume reveals that the volume has no trustee rights assigned,
so no one can see it.  After reassigning the trustee rights the users can
map to the drive.  I've run DSREPAIRs (unattended full)  on the affected
servers but that doesn't seem to help.  Is this some sort of DS corruption?
Is there a particular DSREPAIR process that I should run to fix this?

Thanks,
Phil

 

From avi at MAIL.JCT.AC.IL  Mon Jan  8 05:59:13 2001
From: avi at MAIL.JCT.AC.IL (Avi Wollman)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 00:59:13 -0500
Subject: unable to map
References: <15859261007@mail.inter-corporate.net>
Message-ID: <3A59579F.223D3D1@mail.jct.ac.il>

This seems not to be the case as.
1- the client was working fine before.
2- even my dos ip client can't map.
even so i reinstalled the client and it didn't help.

still looking,
 Avi

Randolf Richardson wrote:
>
> > Some of my users are getting errors while MAPing in login script.
> > All of this is very sudden. The Server is NW5.1 sp2a Client winNT
> > 4.8
> >
> > no problem found while mapping to other nw5.0 servers
> > no license problem
> > volumes and directories are readable so that leaves out a rights
> > problem.
> >
> > I can browse to a directory and it still won't be able to map it.
> > Ideas ?!!! --
>
>         This is a common problem with Windows NT Workstation.  You may need
> to apply a patch to Windows NT, then re-install Client32 (because
> Windows NT support packs are known to interfere with existing
> non-Microsoft applications; especially 3rd party network clients).
>
>         The problem I've seen is that "MAP ROOT" sometimes fails, although
> the mapping itself is successful as if the "ROOT" keyword was
> completely ignored.
>
> Randolf Richardson - randolf at inter-corporate.com
> Inter-Corporate Computer & Network Services, Inc.
> Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
> http://www.inter-corporate.com/
>
> "Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives."

--
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Jerusalem College of Technology
POB 16031 Jerusalem 91160 Israel
Tel: (02)6751-207  Cell: (053)809-107 Fax: (02)6432-145
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

From Alar at MTK.UT.EE  Mon Jan  8 07:04:47 2001
From: Alar at MTK.UT.EE (Alar Pandis)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 02:04:47 -0500
Subject: DNS/DHCP Management Console and red "X" over DHCP server ico
In-Reply-To: <158DA7B70C4@mail.inter-corporate.net>
Message-ID: <NBBBLEPANKOBBECLEKCIAEECEOAA.Alar@mtk.ut.ee>

Hi and thanks, Randy!

No, result same - red cross still there!

Alar.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Randolf Richardson [mailto:randy at inter-corporate.com]
> Sent: 07. jaanuar 2001. a. 22:48
> To: Alar Pandis; Novell LAN Interest Group
> Subject: Re: DNS/DHCP Management Console and red "X" over DHCP server
> ico
>
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > NW51 SP2, DNS/DHCP Management Console. Working well, but red "X"
> > displays on DHCP server object in management console as is described
> > in TID 10019035 and I can't restart service from there - I must
> > unload and load DHCPSRVR.NLM from server console (after I add
> > IP-addresses). Soft is latest (I suppose) - from NW51 CD. Any hints?
>
>       Does it work if you switch over to the DNS console and click on the
> "Refresh Tree" button?  I haven't tried this myself, but I do know
> that these two are tied together very closely.
>
> Randolf Richardson - randolf at inter-corporate.com
> Inter-Corporate Computer & Network Services, Inc.
> Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
> http://www.inter-corporate.com/
>
> "Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives."

 

From Alar at MTK.UT.EE  Mon Jan  8 07:17:18 2001
From: Alar at MTK.UT.EE (Alar Pandis)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 02:17:18 -0500
Subject: TFTP solution for NW 5.1
Message-ID: <NBBBLEPANKOBBECLEKCIKEECEOAA.Alar@mtk.ut.ee>

Hi!

But does need TFTP.NLM companion NLM-s from UXP51? (Well, I suppose kernel
is needed?) I mean only I need from there is TFTP.NLM functionality and I'm
not sure is good idea to install all files, because Novell doesn't support
them anyway. Also there is some files that NW5.1 have with other (supported)
packages and who knows something is maybe overwritten or unloaded etc. In
other way - I have several same name files from NW4.11 (I did in-place
upgrade to 5.1) and may be is good idea just to overwrite them with 5.1
files from UXP51?

Thanks,
Alar.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Randolf Richardson [mailto:randy at INTER-CORPORATE.COM]
> Sent: 07. jaanuar 2001. a. 23:02
> Subject: Re: TFTP solution for NW 5.1
>
>
> [Snip - TFTP was available in NetWare 4.11]
> > Why do you need a server based solution?  There are several (?) TFTP
> > solutions available that are PC (windows) based.
> >
> > Will those not work for these updates?
>
>         Some servers don't have workstations connected to them.  Perhaps
> this person is remotely controlling them, and wishes to perform a
> download directly to the server.
>
>         Another possibility is that the source of the files
> restricts by IP
> address, and only the IP address of the server is permitted.
>
> Randolf Richardson - randolf at inter-corporate.com
> Inter-Corporate Computer & Network Services, Inc.
> Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
> http://www.inter-corporate.com/
>
> "Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives."
>

 

From darek at ISEZ.PAN.KRAKOW.PL  Mon Jan  8 07:23:41 2001
From: darek at ISEZ.PAN.KRAKOW.PL (Dariusz Kostia)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 02:23:41 -0500
Subject: Novell wrong notification about new mails
Message-ID: <200101080727.IAA14957@galileo.pan.krakow.pl>

Hi,

I have strange (?) problem with novell's broadcast notification
about new mail.

The system configuration is as follows:
NW5.0 server + Mercury 1.48, Pegasus 3.12c, Windows NT 4.0
Workstation, Netware Client 4.8.. All workstations have Pegasus run
at startup. Broadcasts are enabled.

Here is the scenario:
1. I log into workstation and novell server at once (as the same
user) - Pegasus starts up.
2. When a new mail comes novell client pop-up window appears with
message that I have got new mail.

Until everything is OK.

3. On the same workstation I choose Start -Shut Down -Close all
programs and login as a different user. 4. I log again into the same
workstation and novell server, but AS A DIFFERENT USER -
Pegasus starts up.
5. When a new mail comes novell client pop-up window appears with
message that a new message arrived, BUT THE MESSAGE(ES) IS
ADDRESSED FOR THE PREVIOUS USER!! Current user can only
see the notification window from novell client - he can not see or
read the e-mail in Pegasus.

Rebooting the workstation returns things to correct notification about
mais for the current user.

What's up ? Is this problem connected with novell's broadcast
notification or with mercury somehow ?

Darek

 

From Patrick at SPM.ORG.ZA  Mon Jan  8 08:44:44 2001
From: Patrick at SPM.ORG.ZA (Patrick Medhurst)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 03:44:44 -0500
Subject: TFTP solution for NW 5.1
Message-ID: <sa5999dd.082@border.spm.org.za>

There are a number of TFTP servers written in Java which run on NW5.1.

I have tested a number of them and use this one:

http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/aw.nsf/techmain/38D7976B0CD2B63D8825671B00681950


>>> Alar at MTK.UT.EE 01/03/01 10:14AM >>>
Hi!

Is some TFTP solution for NW 5.1? As I read in TID 10051219 NWFTPD does not
support TFTP, also  under NW 5.1 is not supported respective UNICON product
(see TID 2940506).
Or - may be some other solutions for TFTP using. Mine primary concern is
3Com switches software updating, I did this under NW 4.11 with UNICON TFTP.

More thanks,
Alar.

------------------------------------------------------
Alar Pandis
Computer Systems Operator
Faculty of Economics and Business Administration
Tartu University, Narva 4-B303, 51009
Tartu, ESTONIA
tel +372 7 376 316, fax +372 7 376 312
e-mail Alar at mtk.ut.ee 
------------------------------------------------------

 

From admin at IAA.GOV.IL  Mon Jan  8 09:29:46 2001
From: admin at IAA.GOV.IL (Mike Glassman - Admin)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 04:29:46 -0500
Subject: ZIP NLM
Message-ID: <7F4D39EF73659140A9DC38EB5FC875054869AE@hobit.IAADOM>

Does anyone remember the name of the Zip NLM ?

I can't for the life of me remember what it is.

Thanks,

Mike Glassman
System & Security Admin
Israeli Airports Authority
Ben-Gurion Airport
http://www.ben-gurion-airport.co.il

Tel : 972-3-9710785
Fax : 972-3-9710939
Email : admin at iaa.gov.il

Usage of this email address or any email address at iaa.gov.il for the
purpose of sales pitches, SPAM or any other such unwanted garbage, is
illegal, and any person, whether corporate or alone doing so, will be
prosecuted to the fullest possible extent.

 

From PLA at EKJ.DK  Mon Jan  8 09:39:25 2001
From: PLA at EKJ.DK (Poul Lausen)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 04:39:25 -0500
Subject: ZIP NLM
Message-ID: <sa5998c7.077@mail.ekj.dk>

Try this:

http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/Assets/zipnlm.exe 


This was easy to find using Copernic (http://www.copernic.com ;-)


poul

>>> admin at IAA.GOV.IL 08-01-01 10:30 >>>
Does anyone remember the name of the Zip NLM ?

I can't for the life of me remember what it is.

Thanks,

Mike Glassman
System & Security Admin
Israeli Airports Authority
Ben-Gurion Airport
http://www.ben-gurion-airport.co.il 

Tel : 972-3-9710785
Fax : 972-3-9710939
Email : admin at iaa.gov.il 

Usage of this email address or any email address at iaa.gov.il for the
purpose of sales pitches, SPAM or any other such unwanted garbage, is
illegal, and any person, whether corporate or alone doing so, will be
prosecuted to the fullest possible extent.

 

From M.A.Johnston at SOTON.AC.UK  Mon Jan  8 10:24:58 2001
From: M.A.Johnston at SOTON.AC.UK (M.A.Johnston at SOTON.AC.UK)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 05:24:58 -0500
Subject: Novell wrong notification about new mails
Message-ID: <3DB5B3FF99ADD31194FB0090271BAA2914F949@YODA>

I remember an issue with WINPOPUP not restarting after a "Close all programs and login as another user". This resulted in messages appearing in the old DOS style in Windows9x.

Possibly Novell fixed this but did not fix it very well. ;-)

Mark.

--
Mark Johnston - Systems Support & Development
Computing Services, University of Southampton.

Ph: +44 (0)23 8059 5513
Fa: +44 (0)23 8059 3939


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dariusz Kostia [mailto:darek at ISEZ.PAN.KRAKOW.PL]
> Sent: 08 January 2001 07:23
> To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
> Subject: Novell wrong notification about new mails
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I have strange (?) problem with novell's broadcast notification
> about new mail.
>
> The system configuration is as follows:
> NW5.0 server + Mercury 1.48, Pegasus 3.12c, Windows NT 4.0
> Workstation, Netware Client 4.8.. All workstations have Pegasus run
> at startup. Broadcasts are enabled.
>
> Here is the scenario:
> 1. I log into workstation and novell server at once (as the same
> user) - Pegasus starts up.
> 2. When a new mail comes novell client pop-up window appears with
> message that I have got new mail.
>
> Until everything is OK.
>
> 3. On the same workstation I choose Start -Shut Down -Close all
> programs and login as a different user. 4. I log again into the same
> workstation and novell server, but AS A DIFFERENT USER -
> Pegasus starts up.
> 5. When a new mail comes novell client pop-up window appears with
> message that a new message arrived, BUT THE MESSAGE(ES) IS
> ADDRESSED FOR THE PREVIOUS USER!! Current user can only
> see the notification window from novell client - he can not see or
> read the e-mail in Pegasus.
>
> Rebooting the workstation returns things to correct notification about
> mais for the current user.
>
> What's up ? Is this problem connected with novell's broadcast
> notification or with mercury somehow ?
>
> Darek
>

 

From a.m.w.p.j.laarakker at ROCU.NL  Mon Jan  8 10:27:53 2001
From: a.m.w.p.j.laarakker at ROCU.NL (Andre Laarakker)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 05:27:53 -0500
Subject: files remain locked after closing
Message-ID: <3A59A38A.2162.196E10@localhost>

Hello,

When someone opens a file you can see in Netware 3.2's Monitor,
Connection Information, Open Files that  that file is locked.
Normally locking is of course finished when the user closes the file.
But in our organisation sometimes the file remains locked after the
owner closes the file. Has anybody an idea what can be the
reason?

Thanks for your help.


Met vriendelijke groeten

Andre Laarakker
Systeembeheer ROC Utrecht
telefoon 030 - 28 19 350

 

From acquistj at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU  Mon Jan  8 12:36:27 2001
From: acquistj at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU (Joe Acquisto)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 07:36:27 -0500
Subject: volume trustee rights disappear
Message-ID: <sa5968dd.077@lan.newpaltz.edu>

Will the rights come back if you just reboot the server?  Did
you determine the lack of rights via NWadmin, or from the
failed location, via the client side?

I have had a recurring problem (only twice, but troubling), where
some users get such errors, some don't.  Login at different w/s or
at a different time (minutes), can be sucessful.  I've not tried to
determine if rights actually appear lost to DS, as it just now occured
to me.

In my case, the server had no replica, and the problem seemed
to get worse when I added a r/w replica (symptoms seemed,
for a while, to suggest it was unable to gain info from an off server
replica).

I have found that rebooting the server solves (?) the problem.

This is NW50, DS751a, sp5a.

joea/

>>> Phil Catelinet <PCatelinet at CGSH.COM> 01/08/01 00:49 AM >>>
System is NW 5.1 SP1, NSS volumes.  DS 8, ver 8.59.

We have a situation that seems to be affecting our worldwide network.
Users report 8804 errors on login when trying to map to certain volumes.
 A
check of the volume reveals that the volume has no trustee rights
assigned,
so no one can see it.  After reassigning the trustee rights the users
can
map to the drive.  I've run DSREPAIRs (unattended full)  on the affected
servers but that doesn't seem to help.  Is this some sort of DS
corruption?
Is there a particular DSREPAIR process that I should run to fix this?

Thanks,
Phil

 

From Alar at MTK.UT.EE  Mon Jan  8 12:43:39 2001
From: Alar at MTK.UT.EE (Alar Pandis)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 07:43:39 -0500
Subject: Auditing on NW5.1
Message-ID: <NBBBLEPANKOBBECLEKCICEEGEOAA.Alar@mtk.ut.ee>

Hi!

NW5.1 SP2, container(s) audit is on. (BROKER log-in information is mainly
what filled this audit.) Broadcast is switched off, but still appear
broadcast messages when audit file reach the size. Autoarchive is on, but
only thing I could use for stopping messages is increase size of audit file.
(In NW 4.11 was one file enough for auditing, but now was needed to switch
on auditing on every conatiner + volume.

Any hints is appreciated.)

More thanks,
Alar.

------------------------------------------------------
Alar Pandis
Computer Systems Operator
Faculty of Economics and Business Administration
Tartu University, Narva 4-B303, 51009
Tartu, ESTONIA
tel +372 7 376 316, fax +372 7 376 312
e-mail Alar at mtk.ut.ee
------------------------------------------------------

 

From M.A.Johnston at SOTON.AC.UK  Mon Jan  8 12:56:16 2001
From: M.A.Johnston at SOTON.AC.UK (M.A.Johnston at SOTON.AC.UK)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 07:56:16 -0500
Subject: Auditing on NW5.1
Message-ID: <3DB5B3FF99ADD31194FB0090271BAA2914F94F@YODA>

Hi Alar,

Back in 1997, I was having no end of problems with auditing NDS activity. This was one of the many things that were seriously bugged. We resorted to other methods of auditing because we simply could not get Novell's to work.

I was told there were significant improvements in 5.1, but I am reluctant to try again as it was a long and painful problem.

I believe there was a fix that allowed you to define which user was to receive the message instead of it being sent to every logged in user. This may be worth looking for but I don't expect it fixes the problem :-)

Mark.

--
Mark Johnston - Systems Support & Development
Computing Services, University of Southampton.

Ph: +44 (0)23 8059 5513
Fa: +44 (0)23 8059 3939


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar at MTK.UT.EE]
> Sent: 08 January 2001 12:43
> To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
> Subject: Auditing on NW5.1
>
>
> Hi!
>
> NW5.1 SP2, container(s) audit is on. (BROKER log-in
> information is mainly
> what filled this audit.) Broadcast is switched off, but still appear
> broadcast messages when audit file reach the size.
> Autoarchive is on, but
> only thing I could use for stopping messages is increase size
> of audit file.
> (In NW 4.11 was one file enough for auditing, but now was
> needed to switch
> on auditing on every conatiner + volume.
>
> Any hints is appreciated.)
>
> More thanks,
> Alar.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------
> Alar Pandis
> Computer Systems Operator
> Faculty of Economics and Business Administration
> Tartu University, Narva 4-B303, 51009
> Tartu, ESTONIA
> tel +372 7 376 316, fax +372 7 376 312
> e-mail Alar at mtk.ut.ee
> ------------------------------------------------------
>

 

From pburrer at YAHOO.COM  Mon Jan  8 13:58:00 2001
From: pburrer at YAHOO.COM (Paul Burrer)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 08:58:00 -0500
Subject: NW 5.1 & DNS issue
Message-ID: <20010108135758.19828.qmail@web116.yahoomail.com>

Fred,

After you configure NAT, Use inetcfg.nlm to add the DNS resolver info. I don't
have a server in  front of me right now, but IIRC, the path is
Protocols->TCP/IP->DNS Resolver.

HTH,

Paul

--- Fred James <fubarsnafu69 at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> I have a NW5.1-SP2. I have 2 NIC's in it. 1st NIC is local LAN - 2nd
> NIC is connected to a cable modem. I was using DHCPCLNT.NLM to get
> Address from Cable Modem, but it has started to abend server whenever
> it loads - so I decide to hard code this address. I was using a
> winroute lite software on NT4 to act as a NAT translator(this box
> decide to give up the ghost this weekend).  I decided it was finally
> time to use NW5.1 server to do this.
>
> I configured the 2nd NIC on cable modem to the IP address and gateway
> address that I received from dhcpclnt.  I set the default route to the
> IP address of the 2nd NIC. I have resolv.cfg setup to point to correct
> dns servers. This works fine. I can ping novell.com & NTP can access
> internet time source.
>
> The problem I am having is when I go to enable NAT on the 2nd NIC I set
> it to dynamic - I can not ping Novell.com - but can ping the acutal IP
> address of novell. NTP cannot contact the servers for timesync.
>
> In order to get it to work I have to remove the board for inetcfg -
> insert it back into autoexec.ncf - reboot - then add back to intecfg.
> but don't enable NAT.
>
> Anybody have any ideas on this
>
> __________________________________________________
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> http://photos.yahoo.com/


__________________________________________________
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From DMaunder at MIDNIGHTOIL.COM.AU  Mon Jan  8 14:03:09 2001
From: DMaunder at MIDNIGHTOIL.COM.AU (Daryl Maunder)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 09:03:09 -0500
Subject: Small Business Suite Version 5
Message-ID: <sa5a6354.007@mail.midnightoil.com.au>

>>> "Tim Heywood, IQX" <tch at IQX.CO.UK> 08/01/2001 05:40:29 >>>
> Does Novell Small Business Suite support VPN? and if yes, can I set it up
> so that people on the move can connect to the office? Or do I have to use
> Novell Remote Connect?

>NO   You would have to purchase this.

Not true. NIAS, included with NSBS 5.1 allows incoming PPTP connections, which gives remote access and encryption

DM

 

From Alar at MTK.UT.EE  Mon Jan  8 14:15:39 2001
From: Alar at MTK.UT.EE (Alar Pandis)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 09:15:39 -0500
Subject: NetWare Web Search Server out of business
Message-ID: <NBBBLEPANKOBBECLEKCIOEEGEOAA.Alar@mtk.ut.ee>

Hi!

NW5.1 SP2, NetWare Web Search Server is on, but user get message "This
service is currently unavailable. Contact the administrator of this site.".
I am the administrator of this site, but ... everything seems to be OK, but
no search! Well, it did work. All web-services seems to work normally.

Any experiences?

Thanks again,
Alar.

------------------------------------------------------
Alar Pandis
Computer Systems Operator
Faculty of Economics and Business Administration
Tartu University, Narva 4-B303, 51009
Tartu, ESTONIA
tel +372 7 376 316, fax +372 7 376 312
e-mail Alar at mtk.ut.ee
------------------------------------------------------

 

From ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU  Mon Jan  8 14:31:58 2001
From: ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU (Joe Acquisto)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 09:31:58 -0500
Subject: edir on Caldera Linux
Message-ID: <sa59890a.026@lan.newpaltz.edu>

Anyone attempt installing edir8.5 on Caldera Linux 2.3?

Is there a way around the apparent lack of RPM functionality?

-----------------------------------------
Joe Acquisto
SUNY New Paltz
845-257-3134 (V)
845-257-6900 (F)
-----------------------------------------

 

From Daniel_sikes at CA11.USCOURTS.GOV  Mon Jan  8 14:44:26 2001
From: Daniel_sikes at CA11.USCOURTS.GOV (daniel sikes)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 09:44:26 -0500
Subject: Veritas' BackupExec 8.5 for Netware
Message-ID: <NOVELL%2001010809442694@LSV.SYR.EDU>

Would someone please enlighten me on a couple of things regarding BE85?  I
am running a scheduled rotation job.  There are nights when a job ends in
any variety of an error message, critical or not.  When ever an error occurs
 BE85 fails to schedule the next nights job.  I understood this should not
be the case.  Does anyone know what setting to change to enable this
auto-rescheduling?  Also has anyone heard where the BE85 training CBTs are.
Veritas was suspose to create a CBT for the USCourts.  I have yet to see
one.  I don't even want to think about converting ARC to BE on NT without
it.  Any and al suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks,

 

From tim.clarke at MANIFEST.CO.UK  Mon Jan  8 15:42:03 2001
From: tim.clarke at MANIFEST.CO.UK (Tim Clarke)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 10:42:03 -0500
Subject: edir on Caldera Linux
In-Reply-To: <sa59890a.026@lan.newpaltz.edu>
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010108153539.00a87770@man3>

Joe, do you mean that you can't/don't know how to install without RPM or
that you want more installation control/rollback etc.?

At 09:31 08/01/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>Anyone attempt installing edir8.5 on Caldera Linux 2.3?
>
>Is there a way around the apparent lack of RPM functionality?
>
>-----------------------------------------
>Joe Acquisto
>SUNY New Paltz
>845-257-3134 (V)
>845-257-6900 (F)
>-----------------------------------------

Tim Clarke AMBCS MIAP, IT Director, The Manifest Voting Agency Ltd
Phone:  +44 1 376 503500
Fax:            +44 1 376 503550
Email:          tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk <mailto:tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk>

THIS EMAIL MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL OR LEGALLY PRIVILEGED INFORMATION.  IF
YOU ARE NOT THE NAMED ADDRESSEE YOU MUST NOT USE OR DISCLOSE SUCH INFORMATION

 

From PAltmaier at MDGI.COM  Mon Jan  8 16:36:55 2001
From: PAltmaier at MDGI.COM (Phil Altmaier)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 11:36:55 -0500
Subject: Problems when upgrading to 3.3 client for 98.
Message-ID: <61D5B3BA64A4D311A04A006008A6C64D0A3CA4@BELUGA>

It is also possible that if the install files were copied from the CD to the
server they could still be RO. Flag them to N and the problem might go
away...

Just my $.02

Phil

-----Original Message-----
From: Randolf Richardson [mailto:randy at INTER-CORPORATE.COM]
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 11:31 AM
To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Re: Problems when upgrading to 3.3 client for 98.


> Im kind of new to the IT work world so this may sound like a stupid
> ques to most of you who read this. I work for a company wich uses
> novell 4.2 small buisness. I recently upgraded the client to 3.3.
> The install went ok but i kept getting these annoying messages that
> popped up from the server telling me that Win95 is write protected
> Update failed. The Client still installed and it didnt happen on
> every pc. Win 95 is the dir wheer the files are for the client.
> Every time when the install goes into that folder the message popps
> up. I first thought I didnt have rights to the file system, which i
> didnt. I gave myself full access and made sure there were no filters
> on that dir. It seemed to work on the next 2 systems i did. Then the
> message came back. I couldnt find anywhere that the dir was write
> protected. If anyone can shed some light on this I would really
> appreciate it.

        This is a strange problem.  You should try using a different
directory name because "Win95" is also on the Microsoft Windows 95
CD-ROM, and I'm wondering if there's some buggy code in Windows 95
that assumes any directory of this name as being on a CD-ROM...?

        Also, if you copied your expanded Client32 files using Windows
Explorer, then you most definitely have corruption.  Never use
Windows Explorer to copy large numbers of files -- always resort to
DOS and XCopy32 or NCopy (no long filenames) to do this reliably.

        Please let us know if that helps.

Randolf Richardson - randolf at inter-corporate.com
Inter-Corporate Computer & Network Services, Inc.
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
http://www.inter-corporate.com/

"Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives."

 

From darek at ISEZ.PAN.KRAKOW.PL  Mon Jan  8 17:51:21 2001
From: darek at ISEZ.PAN.KRAKOW.PL (Dariusz Kostia)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 12:51:21 -0500
Subject: Solved - Novell wrong notification about new mails
Message-ID: <200101081755.SAA15562@galileo.pan.krakow.pl>

HI All,
Today I posted a message concerning "wrong notification about new
mails" (included at the end of this message).

Thanks to all who replied - the solution was given by Joe Acquisto.
I changed the the following setting in Novell Client Properties:

        Advanced Settings -> File Caching = OFF

And everything is OK now. Thanks Joe.

ORIGINAL POST:
===============
I have strange (?) problem with novell's broadcast notification
about new mail.

The system configuration is as follows:
NW5.0 server + Mercury 1.48, Pegasus 3.12c, Windows NT 4.0
Workstation, Netware Client 4.8.. All workstations have Pegasus run
at startup. Broadcasts are enabled.

Here is the scenario:
1. I log into workstation and novell server at once (as the same
user) - Pegasus starts up.
2. When a new mail comes novell client pop-up window appears with
message that I have got new mail.

Until everything is OK.

3. On the same workstation I choose Start -Shut Down -Close all
programs and login as a different user. 4. I log again into the same
workstation and novell server, but AS A DIFFERENT USER -
Pegasus starts up.
5. When a new mail comes novell client pop-up window appears with
message that a new message arrived, BUT THE MESSAGE(ES) IS
ADDRESSED FOR THE PREVIOUS USER!! Current user can only
see the notification window from novell client - he can not see or
read the e-mail in Pegasus.

Rebooting the workstation returns things to correct notification about
mais for the current user.

What's up ? Is this problem connected with novell's broadcast
notification or with mercury somehow ?

Darek

 

From ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU  Mon Jan  8 18:14:03 2001
From: ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU (Joe Acquisto)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 13:14:03 -0500
Subject: edir on Caldera Linux
Message-ID: <sa59bd0e.052@lan.newpaltz.edu>

>Joe, do you mean that you can't/don't know how to install without RPM

Yes.

>or that you want more installation control/rollback etc.?

Ummmm, No?

For all practical purposes, I am a Linux Newbie.  While I can get stuff
working, as long as I have some semblance of docs,  I fell flat when
looking through the RPM script to attempt it manually.  No clue.

Soooo, I trotted (OK, so I drove) down to the local Mall and sprung
$25.00 USD for a Linux for Dummies with 3 entire CD's included.  Version
7.  (Shows what I know.)

The show stopper there was that I can't get the Linksys LNE100 NIC (I'm
cheap, this is my "at home learning" box) to "make" without warnings and
the resultant ".o" file will not "depmod" without errors.  (RH was kind
enough to declare they now look at moudules.conf and not conf.modules.
Litttle known but useless fact. Did not help much).   Sniffle, whine,
whimper.

At work, my temp solution, as this is an edir pre-deployment "lab
exercise" was to blow away the Linux box and install nw5.1, leaving the
Solaris and Linux exercise to the more experienced.

Which leads me to a tangential issue.  They, and I, could not find the
ever elusive .nlf files that the (downloaded) 8.5 install variants want.
 I suppose, despite the docs, that one has to purchase NDS Corporate
edition (or name dujour) to obtain such?

joea/

>
>At 09:31 08/01/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>>Anyone attempt installing edir8.5 on Caldera Linux 2.3?
>>
>>Is there a way around the apparent lack of RPM functionality?
>>
>>-----------------------------------------
>>Joe Acquisto
>>SUNY New Paltz
>>845-257-3134 (V)
>>845-257-6900 (F)
>>-----------------------------------------
>
>Tim Clarke AMBCS MIAP, IT Director, The Manifest Voting Agency Ltd
>Phone:  +44 1 376 503500
>Fax:            +44 1 376 503550
>Email:          tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk
><mailto:tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk>
>
>THIS EMAIL MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL OR LEGALLY
>PRIVILEGED INFORMATION.  IF
>YOU ARE NOT THE NAMED ADDRESSEE YOU MUST NOT USE OR
>DISCLOSE SUCH INFORMATION

 

From tch at IQX.CO.UK  Mon Jan  8 19:02:12 2001
From: tch at IQX.CO.UK (Tim Heywood, IQX)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 14:02:12 -0500
Subject: Small Business Suite Version 5
References: <sa5a6354.007@mail.midnightoil.com.au>
Message-ID: <004101c079a6$23672c30$0a00a8c0@toy>

OK, but I read the question as being does the SBS do BorderManager VPN.
This componant is not included within the bundle.

> >>> "Tim Heywood, IQX" <tch at IQX.CO.UK> 08/01/2001 05:40:29 >>>
> > Does Novell Small Business Suite support VPN? and if yes, can I set it
up
> > so that people on the move can connect to the office? Or do I have to
use
> > Novell Remote Connect?
>
> >NO   You would have to purchase this.
>
> Not true. NIAS, included with NSBS 5.1 allows incoming PPTP connections,
which gives remote access and encryption
>
> DM
>

 

From bjberard at CO.ANOKA.MN.US  Mon Jan  8 19:21:09 2001
From: bjberard at CO.ANOKA.MN.US (Beverly Berard)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 14:21:09 -0500
Subject: wm95sast
Message-ID: <NOVELL%2001010814211003@LSV.SYR.EDU>

Has anyone found a cure for the login process hanging on WM95SAST.EXE after
upgrading to zenworks2? We had a few with Zenworks 1.1, which I attributed
to a very creative container adminstrator who uses policypaks for
everything,  but immediately after upgrading to 2 had problems with several
hundred users across containers/servers.  We've tried every fix in the TID's
we could find, but no lasting solution.  4.11 sp8a and 5.1 sp1a servers,
clients 3.1 to 3.3.

 

From M.A.Johnston at SOTON.AC.UK  Mon Jan  8 19:30:22 2001
From: M.A.Johnston at SOTON.AC.UK (M.A.Johnston at SOTON.AC.UK)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 14:30:22 -0500
Subject: wm95sast
Message-ID: <3DB5B3FF99ADD31194FB0090271BAA2914F95F@YODA>

Beverly,

A colleague found TID 10051067 solved his problem which on the surface sounds exactly the same.

HTH,
Mark.

--
Mark Johnston - Systems Support & Development
Computing Services, University of Southampton.

Ph: +44 (0)23 8059 5513
Fa: +44 (0)23 8059 3939


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Beverly Berard [mailto:bjberard at CO.ANOKA.MN.US]
> Sent: 08 January 2001 19:21
> To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
> Subject: wm95sast
>
>
> Has anyone found a cure for the login process hanging on
> WM95SAST.EXE after
> upgrading to zenworks2? We had a few with Zenworks 1.1, which
> I attributed
> to a very creative container adminstrator who uses policypaks for
> everything,  but immediately after upgrading to 2 had
> problems with several
> hundred users across containers/servers.  We've tried every
> fix in the TID's
> we could find, but no lasting solution.  4.11 sp8a and 5.1
> sp1a servers,
> clients 3.1 to 3.3.
>

 

From WojasinB at BESTACCESS.COM  Mon Jan  8 19:36:11 2001
From: WojasinB at BESTACCESS.COM (Wojasinski, Bob)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 14:36:11 -0500
Subject: Setting the Domain suffix in DHCP.
Message-ID: <FB345665337AD411952000508B6D389801206B28@mail.bestlock.com>

Hi Group:

I'm hoping someone can help me out with a stupid little issue.  What setting
do I need to make in the DNS/DHCP console to get the pc to have a suffix of
bestlock.com in the DNS page.  I'm setting the DNS to 204.86.200.10 which is
our DNS server.  I can tell that it's not being set because if I ping our
server Hoosiers I get no reply but if I ping Hoosiers.bestlock.com I get a
reply.  I don't see "Domain suffix" or anything similar in the list of
options.  I'm guessing that it's called something else just like the gateway
setting is refered to as "router".

Thank you!

Bob Wojasinski
Wojasinb at bestlock.com

 

From sandy at SOCSCI.SOTON.AC.UK  Mon Jan  8 19:41:02 2001
From: sandy at SOCSCI.SOTON.AC.UK (Sandy Mackinnon)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 14:41:02 -0500
Subject: wm95sast
Message-ID: <3A5A1583.29958.1607D4@localhost>

From:    Beverly Berard <bjberard at CO.ANOKA.MN.US>
Subject: wm95sast

>Has anyone found a cure for the login process hanging
>on WM95SAST.EXE after upgrading to zenworks2? We
>had a few with Zenworks 1.1,

Have you tried TID 10051067?   It may have cured our
problems although the problem has been intermittent that
it's difficult to tell whether it's been completely cured.

Sandy Mackinnon
University of Southampton

 

From bjberard at CO.ANOKA.MN.US  Mon Jan  8 19:57:55 2001
From: bjberard at CO.ANOKA.MN.US (Beverly Berard)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 14:57:55 -0500
Subject: wm95sast
Message-ID: <sa59c72c.086@cruiser.co.anoka.mn.us>

Thanks Mark but we've even got a Nalapp that deletes the WM95ROAM.LOG daily and it hasn't fixed everyone.  We are currently upgrading all clients to be able to utilize Zenworks 3.  Would going to 3 be a quicker fix?  Any other ideas until then?

>>> <M.A.Johnston at SOTON.AC.UK> 01/08/01 01:30PM >>>
Beverly,

A colleague found TID 10051067 solved his problem which on the surface sounds exactly the same.

HTH,
Mark.

--
Mark Johnston - Systems Support & Development
Computing Services, University of Southampton.

Ph: +44 (0)23 8059 5513
Fa: +44 (0)23 8059 3939


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Beverly Berard [mailto:bjberard at CO.ANOKA.MN.US] 
> Sent: 08 January 2001 19:21
> To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU 
> Subject: wm95sast
>
>
> Has anyone found a cure for the login process hanging on
> WM95SAST.EXE after
> upgrading to zenworks2? We had a few with Zenworks 1.1, which
> I attributed
> to a very creative container adminstrator who uses policypaks for
> everything,  but immediately after upgrading to 2 had
> problems with several
> hundred users across containers/servers.  We've tried every
> fix in the TID's
> we could find, but no lasting solution.  4.11 sp8a and 5.1
> sp1a servers,
> clients 3.1 to 3.3.
>

 

From JRD at CC.USU.EDU  Mon Jan  8 20:07:06 2001
From: JRD at CC.USU.EDU (Joe Doupnik)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 15:07:06 -0500
Subject: Setting the Domain suffix in DHCP.
Message-ID: <01JYNYXNPOEA94GCK3@cc.usu.edu>

>I'm hoping someone can help me out with a stupid little issue.  What setting
>do I need to make in the DNS/DHCP console to get the pc to have a suffix of
>bestlock.com in the DNS page.  I'm setting the DNS to 204.86.200.10 which is
>our DNS server.  I can tell that it's not being set because if I ping our
>server Hoosiers I get no reply but if I ping Hoosiers.bestlock.com I get a
>reply.  I don't see "Domain suffix" or anything similar in the list of
>options.  I'm guessing that it's called something else just like the gateway
>setting is refered to as "router".
>
>Thank you!
>
>Bob Wojasinski
>Wojasinb at bestlock.com
------------
        Open up the DNS/DHCP application, choose DHCP, see the Addressing
tab item "Domain Name." Put the extension there. Check by selecting a
station which has a fixed IP address and on its Addressing page see the
DNS Domain Suffic: foo.bar  show outside a choice box. Also you can explicitly
define the DHCP Domain name tag's value for particular stations/subnets by
using the "Other DHCP Options" tab and picking tag number 6.
        Joe D.

 

From jamesadam at CROFTONHOUSE.BC.CA  Mon Jan  8 21:13:19 2001
From: jamesadam at CROFTONHOUSE.BC.CA (James Adam)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 16:13:19 -0500
Subject: NDS for NT Corporate Edition
In-Reply-To: <sa2f65ab.085@border.spm.org.za>
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010108122812.023a9b70@mail.croftonhouse.bc.ca>

I currently have three NetWare 5.1 (SP1) servers and one NetWare 4.2 (SP8a)
server on our network (NDS8) and wish to add a NT 4 (SP6) server to the
network and install NDS for NT on it.

I have installed NDS for NT Corporate Edition on the NT box and although no
errors were reported during the installation, only the server object was
created in NDS. I have tried creating the SYS volume object manually using
NWAdmn32, but once created, its details show the version as gibberish and I
can't browse it ("An error occurred during an attempt to build the list of
subordinate objects.").

I ran DSREPAIR on the server containing the master of the [ROOT] replica
prior to installation and performed the Post NetWare 5 Schema Update, but
used DSREPAIR version 7.24 rather than version 6.32 which was on the Corp.
Ed. CD as it wouldn't load on the NW5.1 server. I have also copied the
IWSAM snap-ins into the NW5.1 server from where I run NWAdmn32. My
workstation is Win98se running Client32 3.30 and the Microsoft Client.

Does anyone have any ideas what I might be doing wrong?

TIA

James Adam
Crofton House School
Vancouver, BC, Canada

 

From douglasbecker at HOME.COM  Tue Jan  9 00:08:18 2001
From: douglasbecker at HOME.COM (Doug Becker)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 19:08:18 -0500
Subject: NDS for NT Corporate Edition
In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010108122812.023a9b70@mail.croftonhouse.bc.ca>
Message-ID: <NEBBJMHBKLOFPFKDPBLJEEPNCGAA.douglasbecker@home.com>

When you install the NT box, did you make it a PDC?  For the domain to be
pulled into NDS, there has to be a domain.  The way you get this is to make
the server a PDC (Primary Domain Controller).  If you did not, the only way
to correct this is to re-install the server, because the installation is the
only place that it gives you the option to create it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of
James Adam
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 4:12 PM
To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
Subject: NDS for NT Corporate Edition


I currently have three NetWare 5.1 (SP1) servers and one NetWare 4.2 (SP8a)
server on our network (NDS8) and wish to add a NT 4 (SP6) server to the
network and install NDS for NT on it.

I have installed NDS for NT Corporate Edition on the NT box and although no
errors were reported during the installation, only the server object was
created in NDS. I have tried creating the SYS volume object manually using
NWAdmn32, but once created, its details show the version as gibberish and I
can't browse it ("An error occurred during an attempt to build the list of
subordinate objects.").

I ran DSREPAIR on the server containing the master of the [ROOT] replica
prior to installation and performed the Post NetWare 5 Schema Update, but
used DSREPAIR version 7.24 rather than version 6.32 which was on the Corp.
Ed. CD as it wouldn't load on the NW5.1 server. I have also copied the
IWSAM snap-ins into the NW5.1 server from where I run NWAdmn32. My
workstation is Win98se running Client32 3.30 and the Microsoft Client.

Does anyone have any ideas what I might be doing wrong?

TIA

James Adam
Crofton House School
Vancouver, BC, Canada

 

From greg at STEADFAST.CA  Tue Jan  9 02:19:03 2001
From: greg at STEADFAST.CA (Greg Bembridge, CET, CNE)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 21:19:03 -0500
Subject: Small Business Suite Version 5 VPN
Message-ID: <3A5A58B7.B4A88DF3@steadfast.ca>

I actually just spoke to Novell about this last week.  The SBS comes
with firewall services of Bordermanager, which DOES NOT include
authentication and VPN.  Both can be purchased separately, the VPN
option costs about $900.00US for server and 5 clients - which is the
minimum purchase package.  I was also told that price wise if you needed
both VPN and authentication, you were best spending your money on the
full version of Bordermanager.

Greg



OK, but I read the question as being does the SBS do BorderManager VPN.
This componant is not included within the bundle.

> >>> "Tim Heywood, IQX" <tch at IQX.CO.UK> 08/01/2001 05:40:29 >>>
> > Does Novell Small Business Suite support VPN? and if yes, can I set
it
up
> > so that people on the move can connect to the office? Or do I have
to
use
> > Novell Remote Connect?
>
> >NO   You would have to purchase this.
>
> Not true. NIAS, included with NSBS 5.1 allows incoming PPTP
connections,
which gives remote access and encryption
>
> DM
>

 

From Ming.Lam at HEALTH.WA.GOV.AU  Tue Jan  9 04:25:30 2001
From: Ming.Lam at HEALTH.WA.GOV.AU (Lam, Ming)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 23:25:30 -0500
Subject: Connect NT to Newtare 4.11 - first time
Message-ID: <877911D919BFD1118A0400A0C98CCC00E87E@nt03nmgqe2.qe2.health.wa.gov.au>

I am connecting an NT4 system (SP6) to my Novell 4.11 for the first time.
We run W95/98 exclusively so far.  I downloaded client 4.8, unzip it and
burn it onto a CD onto a subdirectory called NTClient.  I drill down to the
path, execute Setupnw.exe and select typical installation.

It comes up with a message, please insert "Novell Client for Windows NT Disk
1 on drive E:".  But thats wher I am installing from, and I don't see any
directory called .......\disk1.  Please help.

Ming Lam

 

From wjvrens at INVESTEC.CO.ZA  Tue Jan  9 06:04:33 2001
From: wjvrens at INVESTEC.CO.ZA (Wimpie Jansen van Rensburg)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 01:04:33 -0500
Subject: SIGNOFF NOVELL
Message-ID: <sa5ac601.021@gwia4.investec.co.za>

SIGNOFF NOVELL 

>>> LISTSERV at LSV.SYR.EDU 01/08/01 09:21PM >>>
There are 25 messages totalling 1003 lines in this issue.

Topics in this special issue:

  1. volume trustee rights disappear (3)
  2. unable to map
  3. DNS/DHCP Management Console and red "X" over DHCP server ico
  4. TFTP solution for NW 5.1 (2)
  5. Novell wrong notification about new mails (2)
  6. ZIP NLM (2)
  7. files remain locked after closing
  8. Auditing on NW5.1 (2)
  9. NW 5.1 & DNS issue
10. Small Business Suite Version 5 (2)
11. NetWare Web Search Server out of business
12. edir on Caldera Linux (3)
13. Veritas' BackupExec 8.5 for Netware
14. Problems when upgrading to 3.3 client for 98.
15. Solved - Novell wrong notification about new mails
16. wm95sast

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Date:         Tue, 9 Jan 2001 01:04:33 -0500
From:    Phil Catelinet <PCatelinet at CGSH.COM>
Subject: volume trustee rights disappear

System is NW 5.1 SP1, NSS volumes.  DS 8, ver 8.59.

We have a situation that seems to be affecting our worldwide network.
Users report 8804 errors on login when trying to map to certain volumes.  A
check of the volume reveals that the volume has no trustee rights assigned,
so no one can see it.  After reassigning the trustee rights the users can
map to the drive.  I've run DSREPAIRs (unattended full)  on the affected
servers but that doesn't seem to help.  Is this some sort of DS corruption?
Is there a particular DSREPAIR process that I should run to fix this?

Thanks,
Phil

------------------------------

Date:         Tue, 9 Jan 2001 01:04:33 -0500
From:    Lester.Bennett at TREASURY.QLD.GOV.AU
Subject: Re: volume trustee rights disappear

We lose Trustee Rights to directories if we use Windows Explorer on a
Windows NT 4.0 Workstation and view the properties of the directory i.e.
right click on the directory and select properties.
Haven't been able to work out why but it could be the same problem you're
having.

Lester Bennett
Queensland Treasury
Brisbane, Qld.,  Australia





Phil Catelinet <PCatelinet at CGSH.COM> on 01/08/2001 03:49:36 PM

Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU>

To:   NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
cc:    (bcc: Lester Bennett/Treasury_QLD_GOV/AU)
Subject:  volume trustee rights disappear




System is NW 5.1 SP1, NSS volumes.  DS 8, ver 8.59.

We have a situation that seems to be affecting our worldwide network.
Users report 8804 errors on login when trying to map to certain volumes.  A
check of the volume reveals that the volume has no trustee rights assigned,
so no one can see it.  After reassigning the trustee rights the users can
map to the drive.  I've run DSREPAIRs (unattended full)  on the affected
servers but that doesn't seem to help.  Is this some sort of DS corruption?
Is there a particular DSREPAIR process that I should run to fix this?

Thanks,
Phil

------------------------------

Date:         Tue, 9 Jan 2001 01:04:33 -0500
From:    Avi Wollman <avi at MAIL.JCT.AC.IL>
Subject: Re: unable to map

This seems not to be the case as.
1- the client was working fine before.
2- even my dos ip client can't map.
even so i reinstalled the client and it didn't help.

still looking,
Avi

Randolf Richardson wrote:
>
> > Some of my users are getting errors while MAPing in login script.
> > All of this is very sudden. The Server is NW5.1 sp2a Client winNT
> > 4.8
> >
> > no problem found while mapping to other nw5.0 servers
> > no license problem
> > volumes and directories are readable so that leaves out a rights
> > problem.
> >
> > I can browse to a directory and it still won't be able to map it.
> > Ideas ?!!! --
>
>         This is a common problem with Windows NT Workstation.  You may need
> to apply a patch to Windows NT, then re-install Client32 (because
> Windows NT support packs are known to interfere with existing
> non-Microsoft applications; especially 3rd party network clients).
>
>         The problem I've seen is that "MAP ROOT" sometimes fails, although
> the mapping itself is successful as if the "ROOT" keyword was
> completely ignored.
>
> Randolf Richardson - randolf at inter-corporate.com
> Inter-Corporate Computer & Network Services, Inc.
> Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
> http://www.inter-corporate.com/
>
> "Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives."

--
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Avi Wollman - Network & Computing Support Engineer
Jerusalem College of Technology
POB 16031 Jerusalem 91160 Israel
Tel: (02)6751-207  Cell: (053)809-107 Fax: (02)6432-145
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

------------------------------

Date:         Tue, 9 Jan 2001 01:04:33 -0500
From:    Alar Pandis <Alar at MTK.UT.EE>
Subject: Re: DNS/DHCP Management Console and red "X" over DHCP server ico

Hi and thanks, Randy!

No, result same - red cross still there!

Alar.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Randolf Richardson [mailto:randy at inter-corporate.com]
> Sent: 07. jaanuar 2001. a. 22:48
> To: Alar Pandis; Novell LAN Interest Group
> Subject: Re: DNS/DHCP Management Console and red "X" over DHCP server
> ico
>
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > NW51 SP2, DNS/DHCP Management Console. Working well, but red "X"
> > displays on DHCP server object in management console as is described
> > in TID 10019035 and I can't restart service from there - I must
> > unload and load DHCPSRVR.NLM from server console (after I add
> > IP-addresses). Soft is latest (I suppose) - from NW51 CD. Any hints?
>
>       Does it work if you switch over to the DNS console and click on the
> "Refresh Tree" button?  I haven't tried this myself, but I do know
> that these two are tied together very closely.
>
> Randolf Richardson - randolf at inter-corporate.com
> Inter-Corporate Computer & Network Services, Inc.
> Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
> http://www.inter-corporate.com/
>
> "Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives."

------------------------------

Date:         Tue, 9 Jan 2001 01:04:33 -0500
From:    Alar Pandis <Alar at MTK.UT.EE>
Subject: Re: TFTP solution for NW 5.1

Hi!

But does need TFTP.NLM companion NLM-s from UXP51? (Well, I suppose kernel
is needed?) I mean only I need from there is TFTP.NLM functionality and I'm
not sure is good idea to install all files, because Novell doesn't support
them anyway. Also there is some files that NW5.1 have with other (supported)
packages and who knows something is maybe overwritten or unloaded etc. In
other way - I have several same name files from NW4.11 (I did in-place
upgrade to 5.1) and may be is good idea just to overwrite them with 5.1
files from UXP51?

Thanks,
Alar.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Randolf Richardson [mailto:randy at INTER-CORPORATE.COM]
> Sent: 07. jaanuar 2001. a. 23:02
> Subject: Re: TFTP solution for NW 5.1
>
>
> [Snip - TFTP was available in NetWare 4.11]
> > Why do you need a server based solution?  There are several (?) TFTP
> > solutions available that are PC (windows) based.
> >
> > Will those not work for these updates?
>
>         Some servers don't have workstations connected to them.  Perhaps
> this person is remotely controlling them, and wishes to perform a
> download directly to the server.
>
>         Another possibility is that the source of the files
> restricts by IP
> address, and only the IP address of the server is permitted.
>
> Randolf Richardson - randolf at inter-corporate.com
> Inter-Corporate Computer & Network Services, Inc.
> Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
> http://www.inter-corporate.com/
>
> "Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives."
>

------------------------------

Date:         Tue, 9 Jan 2001 01:04:33 -0500
From:    Dariusz Kostia <darek at ISEZ.PAN.KRAKOW.PL>
Subject: Novell wrong notification about new mails

Hi,

I have strange (?) problem with novell's broadcast notification
about new mail.

The system configuration is as follows:
NW5.0 server + Mercury 1.48, Pegasus 3.12c, Windows NT 4.0
Workstation, Netware Client 4.8.. All workstations have Pegasus run
at startup. Broadcasts are enabled.

Here is the scenario:
1. I log into workstation and novell server at once (as the same
user) - Pegasus starts up.
2. When a new mail comes novell client pop-up window appears with
message that I have got new mail.

Until everything is OK.

3. On the same workstation I choose Start -Shut Down -Close all
programs and login as a different user. 4. I log again into the same
workstation and novell server, but AS A DIFFERENT USER -
Pegasus starts up.
5. When a new mail comes novell client pop-up window appears with
message that a new message arrived, BUT THE MESSAGE(ES) IS
ADDRESSED FOR THE PREVIOUS USER!! Current user can only
see the notification window from novell client - he can not see or
read the e-mail in Pegasus.

Rebooting the workstation returns things to correct notification about
mais for the current user.

What's up ? Is this problem connected with novell's broadcast
notification or with mercury somehow ?

Darek

------------------------------

Date:         Tue, 9 Jan 2001 01:04:33 -0500
From:    Patrick Medhurst <Patrick at SPM.ORG.ZA>
Subject: Re: TFTP solution for NW 5.1

There are a number of TFTP servers written in Java which run on NW5.1.

I have tested a number of them and use this one:

http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/aw.nsf/techmain/38D7976B0CD2B63D8825671B00681=
950


>>> Alar at MTK.UT.EE 01/03/01 10:14AM >>>
Hi!

Is some TFTP solution for NW 5.1? As I read in TID 10051219 NWFTPD does =
not
support TFTP, also  under NW 5.1 is not supported respective UNICON =
product
(see TID 2940506).
Or - may be some other solutions for TFTP using. Mine primary concern is
3Com switches software updating, I did this under NW 4.11 with UNICON =
TFTP.

More thanks,
Alar.

------------------------------------------------------
Alar Pandis
Computer Systems Operator
Faculty of Economics and Business Administration
Tartu University, Narva 4-B303, 51009
Tartu, ESTONIA
tel +372 7 376 316, fax +372 7 376 312
e-mail Alar at mtk.ut.ee=20
------------------------------------------------------

------------------------------

Date:         Tue, 9 Jan 2001 01:04:33 -0500
From:    Mike Glassman - Admin <admin at IAA.GOV.IL>
Subject: ZIP NLM

Does anyone remember the name of the Zip NLM ?

I can't for the life of me remember what it is.

Thanks,

Mike Glassman
System & Security Admin
Israeli Airports Authority
Ben-Gurion Airport
http://www.ben-gurion-airport.co.il

Tel : 972-3-9710785
Fax : 972-3-9710939
Email : admin at iaa.gov.il

Usage of this email address or any email address at iaa.gov.il for the
purpose of sales pitches, SPAM or any other such unwanted garbage, is
illegal, and any person, whether corporate or alone doing so, will be
prosecuted to the fullest possible extent.

------------------------------

Date:         Tue, 9 Jan 2001 01:04:33 -0500
From:    Poul Lausen <PLA at EKJ.DK>
Subject: Re: ZIP NLM

Try this:

http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/Assets/zipnlm.exe=20


This was easy to find using Copernic (http://www.copernic.com ;-)


poul

>>> admin at IAA.GOV.IL 08-01-01 10:30 >>>
Does anyone remember the name of the Zip NLM ?

I can't for the life of me remember what it is.

Thanks,

Mike Glassman
System & Security Admin
Israeli Airports Authority
Ben-Gurion Airport
http://www.ben-gurion-airport.co.il=20

Tel : 972-3-9710785
Fax : 972-3-9710939
Email : admin at iaa.gov.il=20

Usage of this email address or any email address at iaa.gov.il for the
purpose of sales pitches, SPAM or any other such unwanted garbage, is
illegal, and any person, whether corporate or alone doing so, will be
prosecuted to the fullest possible extent.

------------------------------

Date:         Tue, 9 Jan 2001 01:04:33 -0500
From:    M.A.Johnston at SOTON.AC.UK
Subject: Re: Novell wrong notification about new mails

I remember an issue with WINPOPUP not restarting after a "Close all programs and login as another user". This resulted in messages appearing in the old DOS style in Windows9x.

Possibly Novell fixed this but did not fix it very well. ;-)

Mark.

--
Mark Johnston - Systems Support & Development
Computing Services, University of Southampton.

Ph: +44 (0)23 8059 5513
Fa: +44 (0)23 8059 3939


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dariusz Kostia [mailto:darek at ISEZ.PAN.KRAKOW.PL]
> Sent: 08 January 2001 07:23
> To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
> Subject: Novell wrong notification about new mails
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I have strange (?) problem with novell's broadcast notification
> about new mail.
>
> The system configuration is as follows:
> NW5.0 server + Mercury 1.48, Pegasus 3.12c, Windows NT 4.0
> Workstation, Netware Client 4.8.. All workstations have Pegasus run
> at startup. Broadcasts are enabled.
>
> Here is the scenario:
> 1. I log into workstation and novell server at once (as the same
> user) - Pegasus starts up.
> 2. When a new mail comes novell client pop-up window appears with
> message that I have got new mail.
>
> Until everything is OK.
>
> 3. On the same workstation I choose Start -Shut Down -Close all
> programs and login as a different user. 4. I log again into the same
> workstation and novell server, but AS A DIFFERENT USER -
> Pegasus starts up.
> 5. When a new mail comes novell client pop-up window appears with
> message that a new message arrived, BUT THE MESSAGE(ES) IS
> ADDRESSED FOR THE PREVIOUS USER!! Current user can only
> see the notification window from novell client - he can not see or
> read the e-mail in Pegasus.
>
> Rebooting the workstation returns things to correct notification about
> mais for the current user.
>
> What's up ? Is this problem connected with novell's broadcast
> notification or with mercury somehow ?
>
> Darek
>

------------------------------

Date:         Tue, 9 Jan 2001 01:04:33 -0500
From:    Andre Laarakker <a.m.w.p.j.laarakker at ROCU.NL>
Subject: files remain locked after closing

Hello,

When someone opens a file you can see in Netware 3.2's Monitor,
Connection Information, Open Files that  that file is locked.
Normally locking is of course finished when the user closes the file.
But in our organisation sometimes the file remains locked after the
owner closes the file. Has anybody an idea what can be the
reason?

Thanks for your help.


Met vriendelijke groeten

Andre Laarakker
Systeembeheer ROC Utrecht
telefoon 030 - 28 19 350

------------------------------

Date:         Tue, 9 Jan 2001 01:04:33 -0500
From:    Joe Acquisto <acquistj at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU>
Subject: Re: volume trustee rights disappear

Will the rights come back if you just reboot the server?  Did
you determine the lack of rights via NWadmin, or from the
failed location, via the client side?

I have had a recurring problem (only twice, but troubling), where
some users get such errors, some don't.  Login at different w/s or
at a different time (minutes), can be sucessful.  I've not tried to
determine if rights actually appear lost to DS, as it just now occured
to me.

In my case, the server had no replica, and the problem seemed
to get worse when I added a r/w replica (symptoms seemed,
for a while, to suggest it was unable to gain info from an off server
replica).

I have found that rebooting the server solves (?) the problem.

This is NW50, DS751a, sp5a.

joea/

>>> Phil Catelinet <PCatelinet at CGSH.COM> 01/08/01 00:49 AM >>>
System is NW 5.1 SP1, NSS volumes.  DS 8, ver 8.59.

We have a situation that seems to be affecting our worldwide network.
Users report 8804 errors on login when trying to map to certain volumes.
A
check of the volume reveals that the volume has no trustee rights
assigned,
so no one can see it.  After reassigning the trustee rights the users
can
map to the drive.  I've run DSREPAIRs (unattended full)  on the affected
servers but that doesn't seem to help.  Is this some sort of DS
corruption?
Is there a particular DSREPAIR process that I should run to fix this?

Thanks,
Phil

------------------------------

Date:         Tue, 9 Jan 2001 01:04:33 -0500
From:    Alar Pandis <Alar at MTK.UT.EE>
Subject: Auditing on NW5.1

Hi!

NW5.1 SP2, container(s) audit is on. (BROKER log-in information is mainly
what filled this audit.) Broadcast is switched off, but still appear
broadcast messages when audit file reach the size. Autoarchive is on, but
only thing I could use for stopping messages is increase size of audit file.
(In NW 4.11 was one file enough for auditing, but now was needed to switch
on auditing on every conatiner + volume.

Any hints is appreciated.)

More thanks,
Alar.

------------------------------------------------------
Alar Pandis
Computer Systems Operator
Faculty of Economics and Business Administration
Tartu University, Narva 4-B303, 51009
Tartu, ESTONIA
tel +372 7 376 316, fax +372 7 376 312
e-mail Alar at mtk.ut.ee
------------------------------------------------------

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Date:         Tue, 9 Jan 2001 01:04:33 -0500
From:    M.A.Johnston at SOTON.AC.UK
Subject: Re: Auditing on NW5.1

Hi Alar,

Back in 1997, I was having no end of problems with auditing NDS activity. This was one of the many things that were seriously bugged. We resorted to other methods of auditing because we simply could not get Novell's to work.

I was told there were significant improvements in 5.1, but I am reluctant to try again as it was a long and painful problem.

I believe there was a fix that allowed you to define which user was to receive the message instead of it being sent to every logged in user. This may be worth looking for but I don't expect it fixes the problem :-)

Mark.

--
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Computing Services, University of Southampton.

Ph: +44 (0)23 8059 5513
Fa: +44 (0)23 8059 3939


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar at MTK.UT.EE]
> Sent: 08 January 2001 12:43
> To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
> Subject: Auditing on NW5.1
>
>
> Hi!
>
> NW5.1 SP2, container(s) audit is on. (BROKER log-in
> information is mainly
> what filled this audit.) Broadcast is switched off, but still appear
> broadcast messages when audit file reach the size.
> Autoarchive is on, but
> only thing I could use for stopping messages is increase size
> of audit file.
> (In NW 4.11 was one file enough for auditing, but now was
> needed to switch
> on auditing on every conatiner + volume.
>
> Any hints is appreciated.)
>
> More thanks,
> Alar.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------
> Alar Pandis
> Computer Systems Operator
> Faculty of Economics and Business Administration
> Tartu University, Narva 4-B303, 51009
> Tartu, ESTONIA
> tel +372 7 376 316, fax +372 7 376 312
> e-mail Alar at mtk.ut.ee
> ------------------------------------------------------
>

------------------------------

Date:         Tue, 9 Jan 2001 01:04:33 -0500
From:    Paul Burrer <pburrer at YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: NW 5.1 & DNS issue

Fred,

After you configure NAT, Use inetcfg.nlm to add the DNS resolver info. I don't
have a server in  front of me right now, but IIRC, the path is
Protocols->TCP/IP->DNS Resolver.

HTH,

Paul

--- Fred James <fubarsnafu69 at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> I have a NW5.1-SP2. I have 2 NIC's in it. 1st NIC is local LAN - 2nd
> NIC is connected to a cable modem. I was using DHCPCLNT.NLM to get
> Address from Cable Modem, but it has started to abend server whenever
> it loads - so I decide to hard code this address. I was using a
> winroute lite software on NT4 to act as a NAT translator(this box
> decide to give up the ghost this weekend).  I decided it was finally
> time to use NW5.1 server to do this.
>
> I configured the 2nd NIC on cable modem to the IP address and gateway
> address that I received from dhcpclnt.  I set the default route to the
> IP address of the 2nd NIC. I have resolv.cfg setup to point to correct
> dns servers. This works fine. I can ping novell.com & NTP can access
> internet time source.
>
> The problem I am having is when I go to enable NAT on the 2nd NIC I set
> it to dynamic - I can not ping Novell.com - but can ping the acutal IP
> address of novell. NTP cannot contact the servers for timesync.
>
> In order to get it to work I have to remove the board for inetcfg -
> insert it back into autoexec.ncf - reboot - then add back to intecfg.
> but don't enable NAT.
>
> Anybody have any ideas on this
>
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Date:         Tue, 9 Jan 2001 01:04:33 -0500
From:    Daryl Maunder <DMaunder at MIDNIGHTOIL.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: Small Business Suite Version 5

>>> "Tim Heywood, IQX" <tch at IQX.CO.UK> 08/01/2001 05:40:29 >>>
> Does Novell Small Business Suite support VPN? and if yes, can I set it =
up
> so that people on the move can connect to the office? Or do I have to =
use
> Novell Remote Connect?

>NO   You would have to purchase this.

Not true. NIAS, included with NSBS 5.1 allows incoming PPTP connections, =
which gives remote access and encryption

DM

------------------------------

Date:         Tue, 9 Jan 2001 01:04:33 -0500
From:    Alar Pandis <Alar at MTK.UT.EE>
Subject: NetWare Web Search Server out of business

Hi!

NW5.1 SP2, NetWare Web Search Server is on, but user get message "This
service is currently unavailable. Contact the administrator of this site.".
I am the administrator of this site, but ... everything seems to be OK, but
no search! Well, it did work. All web-services seems to work normally.

Any experiences?

Thanks again,
Alar.

------------------------------------------------------
Alar Pandis
Computer Systems Operator
Faculty of Economics and Business Administration
Tartu University, Narva 4-B303, 51009
Tartu, ESTONIA
tel +372 7 376 316, fax +372 7 376 312
e-mail Alar at mtk.ut.ee
------------------------------------------------------

------------------------------

Date:         Tue, 9 Jan 2001 01:04:33 -0500
From:    Joe Acquisto <ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU>
Subject: edir on Caldera Linux

Anyone attempt installing edir8.5 on Caldera Linux 2.3?

Is there a way around the apparent lack of RPM functionality?

-----------------------------------------
Joe Acquisto
SUNY New Paltz
845-257-3134 (V)
845-257-6900 (F)
-----------------------------------------

------------------------------

Date:         Tue, 9 Jan 2001 01:04:33 -0500
From:    daniel sikes <Daniel_sikes at CA11.USCOURTS.GOV>
Subject: Veritas' BackupExec 8.5 for Netware

Would someone please enlighten me on a couple of things regarding BE85?  I
am running a scheduled rotation job.  There are nights when a job ends in
any variety of an error message, critical or not.  When ever an error occurs
BE85 fails to schedule the next nights job.  I understood this should not
be the case.  Does anyone know what setting to change to enable this
auto-rescheduling?  Also has anyone heard where the BE85 training CBTs are.
Veritas was suspose to create a CBT for the USCourts.  I have yet to see
one.  I don't even want to think about converting ARC to BE on NT without
it.  Any and al suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks,

------------------------------

Date:         Tue, 9 Jan 2001 01:04:33 -0500
From:    Tim Clarke <tim.clarke at MANIFEST.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: edir on Caldera Linux

Joe, do you mean that you can't/don't know how to install without RPM or
that you want more installation control/rollback etc.?

At 09:31 08/01/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>Anyone attempt installing edir8.5 on Caldera Linux 2.3?
>
>Is there a way around the apparent lack of RPM functionality?
>
>-----------------------------------------
>Joe Acquisto
>SUNY New Paltz
>845-257-3134 (V)
>845-257-6900 (F)
>-----------------------------------------

Tim Clarke AMBCS MIAP, IT Director, The Manifest Voting Agency Ltd
Phone:  +44 1 376 503500
Fax:            +44 1 376 503550
Email:          tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk <mailto:tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk>

THIS EMAIL MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL OR LEGALLY PRIVILEGED INFORMATION.  IF
YOU ARE NOT THE NAMED ADDRESSEE YOU MUST NOT USE OR DISCLOSE SUCH INFORMATION

------------------------------

Date:         Tue, 9 Jan 2001 01:04:33 -0500
From:    Phil Altmaier <PAltmaier at MDGI.COM>
Subject: Re: Problems when upgrading to 3.3 client for 98.

It is also possible that if the install files were copied from the CD to the
server they could still be RO. Flag them to N and the problem might go
away...

Just my $.02

Phil

-----Original Message-----
From: Randolf Richardson [mailto:randy at INTER-CORPORATE.COM]
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 11:31 AM
To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Re: Problems when upgrading to 3.3 client for 98.


> Im kind of new to the IT work world so this may sound like a stupid
> ques to most of you who read this. I work for a company wich uses
> novell 4.2 small buisness. I recently upgraded the client to 3.3.
> The install went ok but i kept getting these annoying messages that
> popped up from the server telling me that Win95 is write protected
> Update failed. The Client still installed and it didnt happen on
> every pc. Win 95 is the dir wheer the files are for the client.
> Every time when the install goes into that folder the message popps
> up. I first thought I didnt have rights to the file system, which i
> didnt. I gave myself full access and made sure there were no filters
> on that dir. It seemed to work on the next 2 systems i did. Then the
> message came back. I couldnt find anywhere that the dir was write
> protected. If anyone can shed some light on this I would really
> appreciate it.

        This is a strange problem.  You should try using a different
directory name because "Win95" is also on the Microsoft Windows 95
CD-ROM, and I'm wondering if there's some buggy code in Windows 95
that assumes any directory of this name as being on a CD-ROM...?

        Also, if you copied your expanded Client32 files using Windows
Explorer, then you most definitely have corruption.  Never use
Windows Explorer to copy large numbers of files -- always resort to
DOS and XCopy32 or NCopy (no long filenames) to do this reliably.

        Please let us know if that helps.

Randolf Richardson - randolf at inter-corporate.com
Inter-Corporate Computer & Network Services, Inc.
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
http://www.inter-corporate.com/

"Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives."

------------------------------

Date:         Tue, 9 Jan 2001 01:04:33 -0500
From:    Dariusz Kostia <darek at ISEZ.PAN.KRAKOW.PL>
Subject: Solved - Novell wrong notification about new mails

HI All,
Today I posted a message concerning "wrong notification about new
mails" (included at the end of this message).

Thanks to all who replied - the solution was given by Joe Acquisto.
I changed the the following setting in Novell Client Properties:

        Advanced Settings -> File Caching = OFF

And everything is OK now. Thanks Joe.

ORIGINAL POST:
===============
I have strange (?) problem with novell's broadcast notification
about new mail.

The system configuration is as follows:
NW5.0 server + Mercury 1.48, Pegasus 3.12c, Windows NT 4.0
Workstation, Netware Client 4.8.. All workstations have Pegasus run
at startup. Broadcasts are enabled.

Here is the scenario:
1. I log into workstation and novell server at once (as the same
user) - Pegasus starts up.
2. When a new mail comes novell client pop-up window appears with
message that I have got new mail.

Until everything is OK.

3. On the same workstation I choose Start -Shut Down -Close all
programs and login as a different user. 4. I log again into the same
workstation and novell server, but AS A DIFFERENT USER -
Pegasus starts up.
5. When a new mail comes novell client pop-up window appears with
message that a new message arrived, BUT THE MESSAGE(ES) IS
ADDRESSED FOR THE PREVIOUS USER!! Current user can only
see the notification window from novell client - he can not see or
read the e-mail in Pegasus.

Rebooting the workstation returns things to correct notification about
mais for the current user.

What's up ? Is this problem connected with novell's broadcast
notification or with mercury somehow ?

Darek

------------------------------

Date:         Tue, 9 Jan 2001 01:04:33 -0500
From:    Joe Acquisto <ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU>
Subject: Re: edir on Caldera Linux

>Joe, do you mean that you can't/don't know how to install without RPM

Yes.

>or that you want more installation control/rollback etc.?

Ummmm, No?

For all practical purposes, I am a Linux Newbie.  While I can get stuff
working, as long as I have some semblance of docs,  I fell flat when
looking through the RPM script to attempt it manually.  No clue.

Soooo, I trotted (OK, so I drove) down to the local Mall and sprung
$25.00 USD for a Linux for Dummies with 3 entire CD's included.  Version
7.  (Shows what I know.)

The show stopper there was that I can't get the Linksys LNE100 NIC (I'm
cheap, this is my "at home learning" box) to "make" without warnings and
the resultant ".o" file will not "depmod" without errors.  (RH was kind
enough to declare they now look at moudules.conf and not conf.modules.
Litttle known but useless fact. Did not help much).   Sniffle, whine,
whimper.

At work, my temp solution, as this is an edir pre-deployment "lab
exercise" was to blow away the Linux box and install nw5.1, leaving the
Solaris and Linux exercise to the more experienced.

Which leads me to a tangential issue.  They, and I, could not find the
ever elusive .nlf files that the (downloaded) 8.5 install variants want.
I suppose, despite the docs, that one has to purchase NDS Corporate
edition (or name dujour) to obtain such?

joea/

>
>At 09:31 08/01/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>>Anyone attempt installing edir8.5 on Caldera Linux 2.3?
>>
>>Is there a way around the apparent lack of RPM functionality?
>>
>>-----------------------------------------
>>Joe Acquisto
>>SUNY New Paltz
>>845-257-3134 (V)
>>845-257-6900 (F)
>>-----------------------------------------
>
>Tim Clarke AMBCS MIAP, IT Director, The Manifest Voting Agency Ltd
>Phone:  +44 1 376 503500
>Fax:            +44 1 376 503550
>Email:          tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk
><mailto:tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk>
>
>THIS EMAIL MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL OR LEGALLY
>PRIVILEGED INFORMATION.  IF
>YOU ARE NOT THE NAMED ADDRESSEE YOU MUST NOT USE OR
>DISCLOSE SUCH INFORMATION

------------------------------

Date:         Tue, 9 Jan 2001 01:04:33 -0500
From:    "Tim Heywood, IQX" <tch at IQX.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Small Business Suite Version 5

OK, but I read the question as being does the SBS do BorderManager VPN.
This componant is not included within the bundle.

> >>> "Tim Heywood, IQX" <tch at IQX.CO.UK> 08/01/2001 05:40:29 >>>
> > Does Novell Small Business Suite support VPN? and if yes, can I set it
up
> > so that people on the move can connect to the office? Or do I have to
use
> > Novell Remote Connect?
>
> >NO   You would have to purchase this.
>
> Not true. NIAS, included with NSBS 5.1 allows incoming PPTP connections,
which gives remote access and encryption
>
> DM
>

------------------------------

Date:         Tue, 9 Jan 2001 01:04:33 -0500
From:    Beverly Berard <bjberard at CO.ANOKA.MN.US>
Subject: wm95sast

Has anyone found a cure for the login process hanging on WM95SAST.EXE after
upgrading to zenworks2? We had a few with Zenworks 1.1, which I attributed
to a very creative container adminstrator who uses policypaks for
everything,  but immediately after upgrading to 2 had problems with several
hundred users across containers/servers.  We've tried every fix in the TID's
we could find, but no lasting solution.  4.11 sp8a and 5.1 sp1a servers,
clients 3.1 to 3.3.

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Date:         Tue, 9 Jan 2001 01:04:49 -0500
From:    M.A.Johnston at SOTON.AC.UK
Subject: Re: wm95sast

Beverly,

A colleague found TID 10051067 solved his problem which on the surface sounds exactly the same.

HTH,
Mark.

--
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Computing Services, University of Southampton.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Beverly Berard [mailto:bjberard at CO.ANOKA.MN.US]
> Sent: 08 January 2001 19:21
> To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
> Subject: wm95sast
>
>
> Has anyone found a cure for the login process hanging on
> WM95SAST.EXE after
> upgrading to zenworks2? We had a few with Zenworks 1.1, which
> I attributed
> to a very creative container adminstrator who uses policypaks for
> everything,  but immediately after upgrading to 2 had
> problems with several
> hundred users across containers/servers.  We've tried every
> fix in the TID's
> we could find, but no lasting solution.  4.11 sp8a and 5.1
> sp1a servers,
> clients 3.1 to 3.3.
>

------------------------------

Date:         Tue, 9 Jan 2001 01:04:49 -0500
From:    "Wojasinski, Bob" <WojasinB at BESTACCESS.COM>
Subject: Setting the Domain suffix in DHCP.

Hi Group:

I'm hoping someone can help me out with a stupid little issue.  What setting
do I need to make in the DNS/DHCP console to get the pc to have a suffix of
bestlock.com in the DNS page.  I'm setting the DNS to 204.86.200.10 which is
our DNS server.  I can tell that it's not being set because if I ping our
server Hoosiers I get no reply but if I ping Hoosiers.bestlock.com I get a
reply.  I don't see "Domain suffix" or anything similar in the list of
options.  I'm guessing that it's called something else just like the gateway
setting is refered to as "router".

Thank you!

Bob Wojasinski
Wojasinb at bestlock.com

------------------------------

Date:         Tue, 9 Jan 2001 01:04:49 -0500
From:    Sandy Mackinnon <sandy at SOCSCI.SOTON.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: wm95sast

From:    Beverly Berard <bjberard at CO.ANOKA.MN.US>
Subject: wm95sast

>Has anyone found a cure for the login process hanging
>on WM95SAST.EXE after upgrading to zenworks2? We
>had a few with Zenworks 1.1,

Have you tried TID 10051067?   It may have cured our
problems although the problem has been intermittent that
it's difficult to tell whether it's been completely cured.

Sandy Mackinnon
University of Southampton

------------------------------

Date:         Tue, 9 Jan 2001 01:04:49 -0500
From:    Beverly Berard <bjberard at CO.ANOKA.MN.US>
Subject: Re: wm95sast

Thanks Mark but we've even got a Nalapp that deletes the WM95ROAM.LOG =
daily and it hasn't fixed everyone.  We are currently upgrading all =
clients to be able to utilize Zenworks 3.  Would going to 3 be a quicker =
fix?  Any other ideas until then?

>>> <M.A.Johnston at SOTON.AC.UK> 01/08/01 01:30PM >>>
Beverly,

A colleague found TID 10051067 solved his problem which on the surface =
sounds exactly the same.

HTH,
Mark.

--
Mark Johnston - Systems Support & Development
Computing Services, University of Southampton.

Ph: +44 (0)23 8059 5513
Fa: +44 (0)23 8059 3939


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Beverly Berard [mailto:bjberard at CO.ANOKA.MN.US]=20
> Sent: 08 January 2001 19:21
> To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU=20
> Subject: wm95sast
>
>
> Has anyone found a cure for the login process hanging on
> WM95SAST.EXE after
> upgrading to zenworks2? We had a few with Zenworks 1.1, which
> I attributed
> to a very creative container adminstrator who uses policypaks for
> everything,  but immediately after upgrading to 2 had
> problems with several
> hundred users across containers/servers.  We've tried every
> fix in the TID's
> we could find, but no lasting solution.  4.11 sp8a and 5.1
> sp1a servers,
> clients 3.1 to 3.3.
>

------------------------------

Date:         Tue, 9 Jan 2001 01:04:49 -0500
From:    Joe Doupnik <JRD at CC.USU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Setting the Domain suffix in DHCP.

>I'm hoping someone can help me out with a stupid little issue.  What setting
>do I need to make in the DNS/DHCP console to get the pc to have a suffix of
>bestlock.com in the DNS page.  I'm setting the DNS to 204.86.200.10 which is
>our DNS server.  I can tell that it's not being set because if I ping our
>server Hoosiers I get no reply but if I ping Hoosiers.bestlock.com I get a
>reply.  I don't see "Domain suffix" or anything similar in the list of
>options.  I'm guessing that it's called something else just like the gateway
>setting is refered to as "router".
>
>Thank you!
>
>Bob Wojasinski
>Wojasinb at bestlock.com
------------
        Open up the DNS/DHCP application, choose DHCP, see the Addressing
tab item "Domain Name." Put the extension there. Check by selecting a
station which has a fixed IP address and on its Addressing page see the
DNS Domain Suffic: foo.bar  show outside a choice box. Also you can explicitly
define the DHCP Domain name tag's value for particular stations/subnets by
using the "Other DHCP Options" tab and picking tag number 6.
        Joe D.

------------------------------

Date:         Tue, 9 Jan 2001 01:04:49 -0500
From:    James Adam <jamesadam at CROFTONHOUSE.BC.CA>
Subject: NDS for NT Corporate Edition

I currently have three NetWare 5.1 (SP1) servers and one NetWare 4.2 (SP8a)
server on our network (NDS8) and wish to add a NT 4 (SP6) server to the
network and install NDS for NT on it.

I have installed NDS for NT Corporate Edition on the NT box and although no
errors were reported during the installation, only the server object was
created in NDS. I have tried creating the SYS volume object manually using
NWAdmn32, but once created, its details show the version as gibberish and I
can't browse it ("An error occurred during an attempt to build the list of
subordinate objects.").

I ran DSREPAIR on the server containing the master of the [ROOT] replica
prior to installation and performed the Post NetWare 5 Schema Update, but
used DSREPAIR version 7.24 rather than version 6.32 which was on the Corp.
Ed. CD as it wouldn't load on the NW5.1 server. I have also copied the
IWSAM snap-ins into the NW5.1 server from where I run NWAdmn32. My
workstation is Win98se running Client32 3.30 and the Microsoft Client.

Does anyone have any ideas what I might be doing wrong?

TIA

James Adam
Crofton House School
Vancouver, BC, Canada

------------------------------

Date:         Tue, 9 Jan 2001 01:04:49 -0500
From:    Doug Becker <douglasbecker at HOME.COM>
Subject: Re: NDS for NT Corporate Edition

When you install the NT box, did you make it a PDC?  For the domain to be
pulled into NDS, there has to be a domain.  The way you get this is to make
the server a PDC (Primary Domain Controller).  If you did not, the only way
to correct this is to re-install the server, because the installation is the
only place that it gives you the option to create it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of
James Adam
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 4:12 PM
To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
Subject: NDS for NT Corporate Edition


I currently have three NetWare 5.1 (SP1) servers and one NetWare 4.2 (SP8a)
server on our network (NDS8) and wish to add a NT 4 (SP6) server to the
network and install NDS for NT on it.

I have installed NDS for NT Corporate Edition on the NT box and although no
errors were reported during the installation, only the server object was
created in NDS. I have tried creating the SYS volume object manually using
NWAdmn32, but once created, its details show the version as gibberish and I
can't browse it ("An error occurred during an attempt to build the list of
subordinate objects.").

I ran DSREPAIR on the server containing the master of the [ROOT] replica
prior to installation and performed the Post NetWare 5 Schema Update, but
used DSREPAIR version 7.24 rather than version 6.32 which was on the Corp.
Ed. CD as it wouldn't load on the NW5.1 server. I have also copied the
IWSAM snap-ins into the NW5.1 server from where I run NWAdmn32. My
workstation is Win98se running Client32 3.30 and the Microsoft Client.

Does anyone have any ideas what I might be doing wrong?

TIA

James Adam
Crofton House School
Vancouver, BC, Canada

------------------------------

Date:         Tue, 9 Jan 2001 01:04:49 -0500
From:    "Greg Bembridge, CET, CNE" <greg at STEADFAST.CA>
Subject: Re: Small Business Suite Version 5 VPN

I actually just spoke to Novell about this last week.  The SBS comes
with firewall services of Bordermanager, which DOES NOT include
authentication and VPN.  Both can be purchased separately, the VPN
option costs about $900.00US for server and 5 clients - which is the
minimum purchase package.  I was also told that price wise if you needed
both VPN and authentication, you were best spending your money on the
full version of Bordermanager.

Greg



OK, but I read the question as being does the SBS do BorderManager VPN.
This componant is not included within the bundle.

> >>> "Tim Heywood, IQX" <tch at IQX.CO.UK> 08/01/2001 05:40:29 >>>
> > Does Novell Small Business Suite support VPN? and if yes, can I set
it
up
> > so that people on the move can connect to the office? Or do I have
to
use
> > Novell Remote Connect?
>
> >NO   You would have to purchase this.
>
> Not true. NIAS, included with NSBS 5.1 allows incoming PPTP
connections,
which gives remote access and encryption
>
> DM
>

------------------------------

Date:         Tue, 9 Jan 2001 01:04:49 -0500
From:    "Lam, Ming" <Ming.Lam at HEALTH.WA.GOV.AU>
Subject: Connect NT to Newtare 4.11 - first time

I am connecting an NT4 system (SP6) to my Novell 4.11 for the first time.
We run W95/98 exclusively so far.  I downloaded client 4.8, unzip it and
burn it onto a CD onto a subdirectory called NTClient.  I drill down to the
path, execute Setupnw.exe and select typical installation.

It comes up with a message, please insert "Novell Client for Windows NT Disk
1 on drive E:".  But thats wher I am installing from, and I don't see any
directory called .......\disk1.  Please help.

Ming Lam

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From vanBuuren at COH.FGG.EUR.NL  Tue Jan  9 07:16:46 2001
From: vanBuuren at COH.FGG.EUR.NL (Joop van Buuren)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 02:16:46 -0500
Subject: Connect NT to Newtare 4.11 - first time
References: <877911D919BFD1118A0400A0C98CCC00E87E@nt03nmgqe2.qe2.health.wa.gov.au>
Message-ID: <3A5ABAD7.4F173701@coh.fgg.eur.nl>

Ming

Try reinstalling after copying the i386 directory (+ the nwc_xx files) to a temp
dir on the local harddisk of the NT-box.

Joop

"Lam, Ming" wrote:

> I am connecting an NT4 system (SP6) to my Novell 4.11 for the first time.
> We run W95/98 exclusively so far.  I downloaded client 4.8, unzip it and
> burn it onto a CD onto a subdirectory called NTClient.  I drill down to the
> path, execute Setupnw.exe and select typical installation.
>
> It comes up with a message, please insert "Novell Client for Windows NT Disk
> 1 on drive E:".  But thats wher I am installing from, and I don't see any
> directory called .......\disk1.  Please help.
>
> Ming Lam

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From wallewek at KMSI.NET  Tue Jan  9 08:52:13 2001
From: wallewek at KMSI.NET (wallewek at KMSI.NET)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 03:52:13 -0500
Subject: POP forwarding with GroupWise -- bloatware?
Message-ID: <mfjl5tsgrn1invbu5tlq1ar0oiqq3afhm2@4ax.com>

As I posted here a short while ago, I need to set up a shared email
environment on NetWare Small Business 5.1 for a lawyer and his staff: one
email account, everybody shares it, nothing gets overlooked.

I'm configuring GroupWise 5.5 with everyone having proxy access to the one
account.  So far, that looks pretty clean.  But I'm having second thoughts
about what has to run on the server.  

There's the Post Office (PO) NLM, the Message Transfer Agent (MTA) NLM, and
the GroupWise Internet Agent (GWIA) NLM, for starters.  Then, in order to
to POP access through the NAT wall (I want the server polling for mail, not
having it sent via SMTP via a static NAT rule) it looks like I have to run
the POP Forwarding Agent (PFA).  PFA is so new hardly anybody at Novell
knows anything about it.  It appears to be a Java script, requiring the
server to run a Java process (NLM isn't quite the right term) and to top it
all off, it positively requires the X GUI and ConsoleOne to be up and
running at all times.

There's GOT to be a better way!

Oh, BTW, has anybody found any way to do anything useful with NW5x virtual
memory?  I found a Novell document that says it should work well with GW,
but not a peep about actually doing anything.

/kenw
Ken Wallewein
Calgary, Alberta
kenw at kmsi.net

 

From tim.clarke at MANIFEST.CO.UK  Tue Jan  9 10:22:54 2001
From: tim.clarke at MANIFEST.CO.UK (Tim Clarke)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 05:22:54 -0500
Subject: edir on Caldera Linux
In-Reply-To: <sa59bd0e.052@lan.newpaltz.edu>
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010109101510.00acd238@man3>

Joe.

I've yet to find a Linux package that comes without a decent README and
further directions from there on linking, are Novell not following the
rules? RPM is definitely the easiest but it's not used by all
distributions, so "common denominator" wins...  If I can help with
deciphering then let's go off list 'cos this is not Novellery.

Tim

At 13:13 08/01/2001 -0500, you wrote:
> >Joe, do you mean that you can't/don't know how to install without RPM
>
>Yes.
>
> >or that you want more installation control/rollback etc.?
>
>Ummmm, No?

Tim Clarke AMBCS MIAP, IT Director, The Manifest Voting Agency Ltd
Phone:  +44 1 376 503500
Fax:            +44 1 376 503550
Email:          tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk <mailto:tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk>

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From acquistj at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU  Tue Jan  9 12:40:56 2001
From: acquistj at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU (Joe Acquisto)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 07:40:56 -0500
Subject: edir on Caldera Linux
Message-ID: <sa5ac053.064@lan.newpaltz.edu>

I appreciate your offer and may take you up on it.  But, the only reason
for looking at Caldera was the version that came with 100
user edir (8.0) on the NUI CD.  Not that Caldera is bad.  That version
installed perfectly, and with little incident, exept for the "non-stock"
NIC
which I worked out pretty quickly.

No, I do not think this is Novell's "fault".  They clearly state in the
edir 8.5
readme (?), that Red HAt and RPM is a pre-requisite for install

I just went ahead anyway.

I have no problem taking this off list, as this particular issue  is
only
marginally Novell related.  But edir, as such, is and issues related to
installl/licensing are Novell issues.  The line to be crossed meanders
a bit.  I'm waiting now for Novell sales to enlighten me on the license
thing.

joea/

>>> Tim Clarke <tim.clarke at MANIFEST.CO.UK> 01/09/01 05:23 AM >>>
Joe.

I've yet to find a Linux package that comes without a decent README and
further directions from there on linking, are Novell not following the
rules? RPM is definitely the easiest but it's not used by all
distributions, so "common denominator" wins...  If I can help with
deciphering then let's go off list 'cos this is not Novellery.

Tim

At 13:13 08/01/2001 -0500, you wrote:
> >Joe, do you mean that you can't/don't know how to install without RPM
>
>Yes.
>
> >or that you want more installation control/rollback etc.?
>
>Ummmm, No?

Tim Clarke AMBCS MIAP, IT Director, The Manifest Voting Agency Ltd
Phone:  +44 1 376 503500
Fax:            +44 1 376 503550
Email:          tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk
<mailto:tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk>

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From bvolpone at LUTHERCARE.ORG  Tue Jan  9 14:26:03 2001
From: bvolpone at LUTHERCARE.ORG (Brian Volpone)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 09:26:03 -0500
Subject: files remain locked after closing
Message-ID: <sa5ad9af.008@luthercare>

I've noticed this lately too. At our site, if a user opens a file in
WordPerfect, then closes the file but doesn't close WordPerfect, the
file remains locked. I haven't looked to see if it releases after some
period of time or only after they finally close the program. I also
haven't checked whether this is also true of other programs or not.

Additionally, this is complicated because the file does NOT show as
locked in Monitor. I'd be interested in what you discover.

>>> Andre Laarakker <a.m.w.p.j.laarakker at ROCU.NL> 01/08/01 05:24AM >>>
Hello,

When someone opens a file you can see in Netware 3.2's Monitor,
Connection Information, Open Files that  that file is locked.
Normally locking is of course finished when the user closes the file.
But in our organisation sometimes the file remains locked after the
owner closes the file. Has anybody an idea what can be the
reason?

Thanks for your help.


Met vriendelijke groeten

Andre Laarakker
Systeembeheer ROC Utrecht
telefoon 030 - 28 19 350

 

From DMaunder at MIDNIGHTOIL.COM.AU  Tue Jan  9 14:37:37 2001
From: DMaunder at MIDNIGHTOIL.COM.AU (Daryl Maunder)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 09:37:37 -0500
Subject: POP forwarding with GroupWise -- bloatware?
Message-ID: <sa5bbcf4.014@mail.midnightoil.com.au>

There is an NLM called GETMAIL.NLM from Petr Jaklin that basically does the same as PFA but without the JAVA overhead. It works like a charm.

DM
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From Mark.Puchalski at COUZENS.COM  Tue Jan  9 14:38:11 2001
From: Mark.Puchalski at COUZENS.COM (Mark Puchalski)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 09:38:11 -0500
Subject: Backing out of 5.1 SP2a
Message-ID: <sa5adc4f.031@xjp.couzens.com>

I'm having a lot of problems with SP2a.  Not least of all is the fact that BackupExec 8.0 will not complete a job.

I need to back down to SP1 (which I did back up during the SP2a install).  I've read through TID 10016901 regarding using NWConfig to restore the previous SP.

I'm wondering how this will affect DS, however.  I was previously running 7.49.  With SP2a, I'm up to 7.51.  Anyone know if restoring will pull 7.49 back in, and if so, will that cause any problems?


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From KPARRIS at SDE.STATE.SC.US  Tue Jan  9 14:40:51 2001
From: KPARRIS at SDE.STATE.SC.US (Kevin Parris)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 09:40:51 -0500
Subject: POP forwarding with GroupWise -- bloatware?
Message-ID: <sa5add78.031@gw.state.sc.us>

Have you considered having your GWIA use the ETRN function (in the doc section labeled 'Configuring SMTP Dial-Up Services') to poll for mail from the ISP, instead of using POP functions.  I haven't ever actually done this myself, but it seems to me like "a better way" as it eliminates your concerns over loading additional processing on your server.

>>> wallewek at KMSI.NET 01/09/01 03:52AM >>>
As I posted here a short while ago, I need to set up a shared email
environment on NetWare Small Business 5.1 for a lawyer and his staff: one
email account, everybody shares it, nothing gets overlooked.

I'm configuring GroupWise 5.5 with everyone having proxy access to the one
account.  So far, that looks pretty clean.  But I'm having second thoughts
about what has to run on the server.  

There's the Post Office (PO) NLM, the Message Transfer Agent (MTA) NLM, and
the GroupWise Internet Agent (GWIA) NLM, for starters.  Then, in order to
to POP access through the NAT wall (I want the server polling for mail, not
having it sent via SMTP via a static NAT rule) it looks like I have to run
the POP Forwarding Agent (PFA).  PFA is so new hardly anybody at Novell
knows anything about it.  It appears to be a Java script, requiring the
server to run a Java process (NLM isn't quite the right term) and to top it
all off, it positively requires the X GUI and ConsoleOne to be up and
running at all times.

There's GOT to be a better way!

Oh, BTW, has anybody found any way to do anything useful with NW5x virtual
memory?  I found a Novell document that says it should work well with GW,
but not a peep about actually doing anything.

/kenw
Ken Wallewein
Calgary, Alberta
kenw at kmsi.net

 

From M.A.Johnston at SOTON.AC.UK  Tue Jan  9 14:54:11 2001
From: M.A.Johnston at SOTON.AC.UK (M.A.Johnston at SOTON.AC.UK)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 09:54:11 -0500
Subject: Backing out of 5.1 SP2a
Message-ID: <3DB5B3FF99ADD31194FB0090271BAA2914F965@YODA>

> I'm wondering how this will affect DS, however.  I was
> previously running 7.49.  With SP2a, I'm up to 7.51.  Anyone
> know if restoring will pull 7.49 back in, and if so, will
> that cause any problems?

Read the service pack readme. It addresses exactly that issue.

Mark.

--
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Computing Services, University of Southampton.

Ph: +44 (0)23 8059 5513
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From Anwahs at AOL.COM  Tue Jan  9 15:04:24 2001
From: Anwahs at AOL.COM (Anwahs at AOL.COM)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 10:04:24 -0500
Subject: annoyed
Message-ID: <2f.f5329d2.278c8188@aol.com>

I have sent numerous emails and followed all of the right procedures to be removed from your mailing list with no success.  Please remove me promptly!

Thank you -
anwahs at aol.com

 

From Mark.Puchalski at COUZENS.COM  Tue Jan  9 15:42:57 2001
From: Mark.Puchalski at COUZENS.COM (Mark Puchalski)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 10:42:57 -0500
Subject: Backing out of 5.1 SP2a
Message-ID: <sa5aeb74.063@xjp.couzens.com>

Thank you for that advice.  I did look at the readme, and in doing so, I also noticed that it says DS 7.49 will be installed with SP2a, when *7.51* is actually installed, hence my original question.  Looking at TID 2958259 (which is an update to DS 7.51a), it strongly recommends not backreving DS.  My main concern is moving back to 7.49 from 7.51.

>>> M.A.Johnston at SOTON.AC.UK 1/9/2001 9:54:26 AM >>>
> I'm wondering how this will affect DS, however.  I was
> previously running 7.49.  With SP2a, I'm up to 7.51.  Anyone
> know if restoring will pull 7.49 back in, and if so, will
> that cause any problems?

Read the service pack readme. It addresses exactly that issue.

Mark.

--
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Computing Services, University of Southampton.

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From ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU  Tue Jan  9 15:55:00 2001
From: ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU (Joe Acquisto)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 10:55:00 -0500
Subject: Backing out of 5.1 SP2a
Message-ID: <sa5aedf9.041@lan.newpaltz.edu>

If you don't mind, what sort of BE8 problems are you having?   I'm
having some of my own.

signed - curious.

joea/

>>> Mark Puchalski <Mark.Puchalski at COUZENS.COM> 01/09/01 09:39AM >>>
I'm having a lot of problems with SP2a.  Not least of all is the fact
that BackupExec 8.0 will not complete a job.

I need to back down to SP1 (which I did back up during the SP2a
install).  I've read through TID 10016901 regarding using NWConfig to
restore the previous SP.

I'm wondering how this will affect DS, however.  I was previously
running 7.49.  With SP2a, I'm up to 7.51.  Anyone know if restoring will
pull 7.49 back in, and if so, will that cause any problems?


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From Mark.Puchalski at COUZENS.COM  Tue Jan  9 16:08:17 2001
From: Mark.Puchalski at COUZENS.COM (Mark Puchalski)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 11:08:17 -0500
Subject: Backing out of 5.1 SP2a
Message-ID: <sa5af165.075@xjp.couzens.com>

Well, I applied SP2a on Friday, and my weekend backups ran fine.

Yesterday, I was cataloging a tape and the server froze hard.  No abend, just a total lock up.  Then, last night, the backup failed.  The server was stuck this morning (again, no abend) and no one could log in.  I rebooted, and the backup job started again, but after backing up a different 4.11 server, the BE MGR console just stopped at 'Finished processing device.'  It sat there for about 20 minutes, then finally picked back up and fishing the other jobs that were waiting.

While it was stuck, portal was telling me that BEMGR_CtrThread was 'Blocked on Semaphore'.

Prior to applying SP2a, I had none of these issues with BE 8.

>>> ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU 1/9/2001 10:54:34 AM >>>
If you don't mind, what sort of BE8 problems are you having?   I'm
having some of my own.

signed - curious.

joea/

>>> Mark Puchalski <Mark.Puchalski at COUZENS.COM> 01/09/01 09:39AM >>>
I'm having a lot of problems with SP2a.  Not least of all is the fact
that BackupExec 8.0 will not complete a job.

I need to back down to SP1 (which I did back up during the SP2a
install).  I've read through TID 10016901 regarding using NWConfig to
restore the previous SP.

I'm wondering how this will affect DS, however.  I was previously
running 7.49.  With SP2a, I'm up to 7.51.  Anyone know if restoring will
pull 7.49 back in, and if so, will that cause any problems?


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From leonardo.broseghini at ASYSTEL.IT  Tue Jan  9 16:12:39 2001
From: leonardo.broseghini at ASYSTEL.IT (Leonardo Broseghini)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 11:12:39 -0500
Subject: NWSB 4.2 and Novell 5.1
Message-ID: <000001c07a57$18ddb3e0$1400050a@gemax.it>

There is any way to upgrade NWSB 4.2 licenses over 50 ?
Is it possible to install a new Netware 5.1 server into an existing NWSB 4.2
tree ?
If both the answers are not, where can I find documentation about the BEST
way to migrate from a NWSB 4.2 server to a Netware 5.1 one (no or little
down time) ?

Thanks, Leo
_____________________________________
Ing. Leonardo Broseghini
ASYSTEL SPA
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From kmwade at GENDATASYS.COM  Tue Jan  9 16:22:58 2001
From: kmwade at GENDATASYS.COM (Kevin Wade)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 11:22:58 -0500
Subject: POP forwarding with GroupWise -- bloatware?
In-Reply-To: <sa5add78.031@gw.state.sc.us>
Message-ID: <3A5AE440.11921.18F3F695@localhost>

If you can do an ETRN, I think that would work the best.  If not, I
think you're stuck with the PFA unless you want to buy MAX! Message
Server.  They have a POP forwarding NLM for Groupwise.  Their website is
http://www.weitlandt.com/max.htm .

-------- Original Message:

Have you considered having your GWIA use the ETRN function (in the doc
section labeled 'Configuring SMTP Dial-Up Services') to poll for mail from
the ISP, instead of using POP functions.  I haven't ever actually done this
myself, but it seems to me like "a better way" as it eliminates your
concerns over loading additional processing on your server.

>>> wallewek at KMSI.NET 01/09/01 03:52AM >>>
As I posted here a short while ago, I need to set up a shared email
environment on NetWare Small Business 5.1 for a lawyer and his staff: one
email account, everybody shares it, nothing gets overlooked.

I'm configuring GroupWise 5.5 with everyone having proxy access to the one
account.  So far, that looks pretty clean.  But I'm having second thoughts
about what has to run on the server.

There's the Post Office (PO) NLM, the Message Transfer Agent (MTA) NLM, and
the GroupWise Internet Agent (GWIA) NLM, for starters.  Then, in order to
to POP access through the NAT wall (I want the server polling for mail, not
having it sent via SMTP via a static NAT rule) it looks like I have to run
the POP Forwarding Agent (PFA).  PFA is so new hardly anybody at Novell
knows anything about it.  It appears to be a Java script, requiring the
server to run a Java process (NLM isn't quite the right term) and to top it
all off, it positively requires the X GUI and ConsoleOne to be up and
running at all times.

There's GOT to be a better way!

Oh, BTW, has anybody found any way to do anything useful with NW5x virtual
memory?  I found a Novell document that says it should work well with GW,
but not a peep about actually doing anything.

/kenw
Ken Wallewein
Calgary, Alberta
kenw at kmsi.net

 

From Philip.Dohnanyi at WPGINVEST.COM  Tue Jan  9 16:23:43 2001
From: Philip.Dohnanyi at WPGINVEST.COM (Philip.Dohnanyi at WPGINVEST.COM)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 11:23:43 -0500
Subject: NW51 NWCS1.01 <- Preferred Backup Solution?
Message-ID: <852569CF.0059DA52.00@nylnmta.wpginvest.com>

We are going to be deploying a NW51 SP2a based NWCS1.01 cluster soon. ?Could
anyone out there currently running NWCS1.01 recommend a backup solution that
works well with it? ?We've had a lot of success with ARCserve in our
non-clustered NetWare environment and are most likely going to go with ARCserve
7 but if you have any experience based suggestions...

Thanks,
Philip Dohnanyi




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From ALemmon at MESSIAH.EDU  Tue Jan  9 16:30:42 2001
From: ALemmon at MESSIAH.EDU (Alex Lemmon)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 11:30:42 -0500
Subject: NW51 SP2a - success stories ?
Message-ID: <sa5af668.044@gw1.messiah.edu>

Most of the posts I have seen concerning NW51 SP2a have
not been favorable.

Are there any success stories out there regarding SP2a ??

One of the things that concerns me is the statement in
the SP2a text file that says -


 > 1.1  Prerequisites
 >
 >      Before you install the Support Pack, you may want to
 >      read about known issues in Section 2.0 "Notes". You
 >      must also do the following:
 >
 >      -  Upgrade all servers with the SCMD.NLM file included in
 >         this Support Pack. SCMD.NLM works with NetWare 4.11, 4.2,
 >         5.0, and 5.1. Failure to upgrade all servers at once will
 >         stop communication between the servers.


For those people that have installed SP2a, were you aware of this ??

To upgrade the SCMD.NLM file on all servers, is it a simple copy ??
Or does it take a more involved install of some sort ??

What's the verdict ??

= Alex =

 

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From: PAltmaier at MDGI.COM (Phil Altmaier)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 11:31:29 -0500
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From bhartung at INXPRESS.NET  Tue Jan  9 17:41:29 2001
From: bhartung at INXPRESS.NET (Bob Hartung)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 12:41:29 -0500
Subject: E-mail Archiving
Message-ID: <3A5B4CFB.D160A96F@inxpress.net>

This is not specifically a Novell topic but most people with a Novell
server probably deal with an issue like this...

At my company, we are currently not backing up our e-mail sub
directories. On purpose.

This all started when our VP of Personnel read an article about a
lawsuit brought against a company for sexual harassment. The company was
required to produce all relevant e-mail both on the system and also to
reproduce e-mail that had been deleted by the suspected harasser. The
process was long and expensive and the end result was the harasser was
found guilty and the company had to pay a big settlement.

I personally disagree with this policy and the reasoning behind it.

I would appreciate knowing what other company's policies are on
archiving e-mail.

Thanks.

--
============================

Bob Hartung, Sys Adm / Eng Mgr
c\o Wisco Industries, Inc.
P. O. Box 10
736 Janesville St.
Oregon, WI  53575

Phone: (608) 835-3106 x215
  Fax: (608) 835-9644

email: bhartung at inxpress.net

 

From angussf at GEOAPPS.COM  Tue Jan  9 17:58:47 2001
From: angussf at GEOAPPS.COM (Angus Scott-Fleming)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 12:58:47 -0500
Subject: E-mail Archiving
In-Reply-To: <3A5B4CFB.D160A96F@inxpress.net>
Message-ID: <3A5AEED2.9799.A4239C@localhost>

On 9 Jan 2001, at 11:40, Bob Hartung wrote:

> I would appreciate knowing what other company's policies are on
> archiving e-mail.

No formal differentiation between e-mail and other server-based files
at the current time at any of my shops.  Your boss is "right" in the
sense that keeping old e-mail IS a liability to the company.

Do you retain historical recordings of all company voice-mail
messages?  E-mail is between voice-mail and printed letters as far as
transience or permanence, and some companies may well choose to treat
it as transient.  I know that given the current legal environment I
would be hard-pressed to explain why we should preserve e-mail beyond
the immediate need to restore from a disaster.

I am in the process of developing a set of recommendations for
clients on this.  So far my thinking is as follows:

--------- Included Stuff Follows ----------------

1. Archives and Backups are different things for different purposes.

   a. Archives are permanent records, made and kept for
      historical purposes and (often) for tax or legal purposes

   b. Backups are transient records, made and kept for the
      express purpose of being able to recover from a
      hardware or software failure or other disaster that
      damages the company's computer systems

2. Documents need to be archived.

3. E-mail and programs need to be backed up so as not to disrupt
   business at the company.  However, old backups should be
   over-written or destroyed.  "Old" is determined by company
   policy but typically will be from 2 months to 6 months.

4. Archive tapes (or CDs, now) should be made on a periodic
   basis, two copies, and stored in two locations, at least one
   of which is off-site.  The period should be determined by
   business needs.

5. Backup tapes should be made on a daily basis (full or
   differential, depending on paranoia level of the client) and
   all but the current tape should be off-site.

--------- Included Stuff Ends ----------------

Further comments and discussion welcome ...


---------------------------------------------------------
Angus Scott-Fleming      GeoApplications, Tucson, Arizona
angussf at geoapps.com   1-520-290-5038 / fax 1-208-248-3124
---------------------------------------------------------

 

From jamesadam at CROFTONHOUSE.BC.CA  Tue Jan  9 19:26:25 2001
From: jamesadam at CROFTONHOUSE.BC.CA (James Adam)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:26:25 -0500
Subject: NDS for NT Corporate Edition
In-Reply-To: <NEBBJMHBKLOFPFKDPBLJEEPNCGAA.douglasbecker@home.com>
References: <5.0.2.1.0.20010108122812.023a9b70@mail.croftonhouse.bc.ca>
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010109112214.00aae1d0@mail.croftonhouse.bc.ca>

Yes, the NT box is the PDC, however, the domain name is the same as the NDS
tree name. Does that matter?

James Adam

At 06:58 PM 08/01/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>When you install the NT box, did you make it a PDC?  For the domain to be
>pulled into NDS, there has to be a domain.  The way you get this is to make
>the server a PDC (Primary Domain Controller).  If you did not, the only way
>to correct this is to re-install the server, because the installation is the
>only place that it gives you the option to create it.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of
>James Adam
>Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 4:12 PM
>To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
>Subject: NDS for NT Corporate Edition
>
>
>I currently have three NetWare 5.1 (SP1) servers and one NetWare 4.2 (SP8a)
>server on our network (NDS8) and wish to add a NT 4 (SP6) server to the
>network and install NDS for NT on it.
>
>I have installed NDS for NT Corporate Edition on the NT box and although no
>errors were reported during the installation, only the server object was
>created in NDS. I have tried creating the SYS volume object manually using
>NWAdmn32, but once created, its details show the version as gibberish and I
>can't browse it ("An error occurred during an attempt to build the list of
>subordinate objects.").
>
>I ran DSREPAIR on the server containing the master of the [ROOT] replica
>prior to installation and performed the Post NetWare 5 Schema Update, but
>used DSREPAIR version 7.24 rather than version 6.32 which was on the Corp.
>Ed. CD as it wouldn't load on the NW5.1 server. I have also copied the
>IWSAM snap-ins into the NW5.1 server from where I run NWAdmn32. My
>workstation is Win98se running Client32 3.30 and the Microsoft Client.
>
>Does anyone have any ideas what I might be doing wrong?
>
>TIA
>
>James Adam
>Crofton House School
>Vancouver, BC, Canada

 

From KPARRIS at SDE.STATE.SC.US  Tue Jan  9 19:33:48 2001
From: KPARRIS at SDE.STATE.SC.US (Kevin Parris)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:33:48 -0500
Subject: E-mail Archiving
Message-ID: <sa5b2217.065@gw.state.sc.us>

I'd offer your VP some consideration as to time frame, rather than the idea of no backup at all.  Ask him what would happen to company operations if the server disk drive failed and suddenly you had no email system, and no way to recover anything that had been in it.   Then suggest that you should be taking regular backups of everything, as a precaution against such catastrophe, but you don't have to save the tapes for very long - maybe just one week - and that will remove the future risk of being required to do an extensive recovery.

In other words, I would not accept a "no backup at all" argument, but with the various criteria that apply to different situations, it is perfectly acceptable to have backups on a short-term retention.  You'll just have to make your management comfortable that if you are taking backups, that the tapes really do get re-used or otherwise erased according to the specified maximum retention time period.

The questions of what to keep and how long to keep it don't have any one-size-fits-all answers.  Some government agencies are required to keep essentially everything practically forever, and classify email messages the same as paper mail items.... but other places don't want anything kept longer than is absolutely necessary.

>>> bhartung at INXPRESS.NET 01/09/01 12:40PM >>>
This is not specifically a Novell topic but most people with a Novell
server probably deal with an issue like this...

At my company, we are currently not backing up our e-mail sub
directories. On purpose.

This all started when our VP of Personnel read an article about a
lawsuit brought against a company for sexual harassment. The company was
required to produce all relevant e-mail both on the system and also to
reproduce e-mail that had been deleted by the suspected harasser. The
process was long and expensive and the end result was the harasser was
found guilty and the company had to pay a big settlement.

I personally disagree with this policy and the reasoning behind it.

I would appreciate knowing what other company's policies are on
archiving e-mail.

Thanks.

--
============================

Bob Hartung, Sys Adm / Eng Mgr
c\o Wisco Industries, Inc.
P. O. Box 10
736 Janesville St.
Oregon, WI  53575

Phone: (608) 835-3106 x215
  Fax: (608) 835-9644

email: bhartung at inxpress.net

 

From corey at HOMETEK.COM  Tue Jan  9 19:38:25 2001
From: corey at HOMETEK.COM (Corey Mang)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:38:25 -0500
Subject: SLP
Message-ID: <3A5B6031.3EF5D076@hometek.com>

Thank you to everyone who offered suggestions and advise regarding this
issue. The main reason for the error at the console was the fact that
while I had re-created the NDS objects for the SLP DA and scope, I had
not assigned the scope to the DA. No more warning, however, I would
still like to know where the nice SLP screen went that used to display
upon start-up.

Corey Mang
HomeTek





Date:         Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:38:25 -0500
From:    Corey Mang <corey at HOMETEK.COM>
Subject: SLP

Thanks for the reply Joe,

This is a new installation. Single server. When the installation was
first completed the SLP screen displayed. Everything appeared normal. I
wrestled with the DHCP client,  attempting to connect to an ADSL service

here in BC that uses supernetting. NAT would not function in this
configuration and after seeking advice from several sources with no
success, I switched the customer over to a cable service; connectivity
problems solved. At some point I do not recall, I began to recieve the
SLP UA warning.

I followed the intructions you provided another list recipient. I have
applied support pack 1, created the SLP DA and scope objects, and run
dsrepair. When I run slpda from the console I recieve the error 'DA has
not been configured for any scopes or containers. SLP DA not loaded'.

Thanks again for the input

Corey


Please describe your configuration in a bit more detail, as well as what

 you are trying to accomplish.

 Is this a new server in an exisiting network, where an SLPDA is already

 established?

 -----------------------------------------
 Joe Acquisto
 SUNY New Paltz
 845-257-3134 (V)
 845-257-6900 (F)
 -----------------------------------------

 >>> Corey Mang <corey at HOMETEK.COM> 01/04/01 01:38PM >>>
 Happy New year to all,

 I recently installed a new server using NetWare 5.1. After some
 initial
 problems regarding an attempted use of the DHCP server client with
 ADSL,
 I switched the internet connection to Shaw cable. The internet
 connection and NAT now function perfectly.

 The SLP screen that used to display upon start-up no longer appears. I
 now recieve the message "SLP UA WARNING: Unable to contact directory
 agent. Verify DA availability, IP connectivity, DA discovery options
 and
 configuration." I have only two configured IP address. One internal,
 one
 external. Both are recognized immediately upon unloading and reloading
 of SLPTCP.  I have not changed any of the defaults for SLP.CFG.

 Any input greatly appreciated.

 Corey Mang

------------------------------

Date:         Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:38:25 -0500
From:    MaryBeth Stuenkel <maryb at UMICH.EDU>
Subject: Re: SLP

Check out Novell's AppNotes at
http://developer.novell.com/research/index.htm and search for SLP.  I
particularly found "Understanding and Configuring SLP Directory Agents
and
Scopes" from April, 2000 helpful.  However, there are several others,
good
for reference and background.

--MaryBeth

----- Original Message -----

> Thanks for the reply Joe,
>
> This is a new installation. Single server. When the installation was
> first completed the SLP screen displayed. Everything appeared normal.
I
> wrestled with the DHCP client,  attempting to connect to an ADSL
service
> here in BC that uses supernetting. NAT would not function in this
> configuration and after seeking advice from several sources with no
> success, I switched the customer over to a cable service; connectivity

> problems solved. At some point I do not recall, I began to recieve the

> SLP UA warning.
>
> I followed the intructions you provided another list recipient. I have

> applied support pack 1, created the SLP DA and scope objects, and run
> dsrepair. When I run slpda from the console I recieve the error 'DA
has
> not been configured for any scopes or containers. SLP DA not loaded'.
>
> Thanks again for the input
>
> Corey
>
>
> Please describe your configuration in a bit more detail, as well as
what
>
>  you are trying to accomplish.
>
>  Is this a new server in an exisiting network, where an SLPDA is
already
>
>  established?
>
>  -----------------------------------------
>  Joe Acquisto
>  SUNY New Paltz
>  845-257-3134 (V)
>  845-257-6900 (F)
>  -----------------------------------------
>
>  >>> Corey Mang <corey at HOMETEK.COM> 01/04/01 01:38PM >>>
>  Happy New year to all,
>
>  I recently installed a new server using NetWare 5.1. After some
>  initial
>  problems regarding an attempted use of the DHCP server client with
>  ADSL,
>  I switched the internet connection to Shaw cable. The internet
>  connection and NAT now function perfectly.
>
>  The SLP screen that used to display upon start-up no longer appears.
I
>  now recieve the message "SLP UA WARNING: Unable to contact directory
>  agent. Verify DA availability, IP connectivity, DA discovery options
>  and
>  configuration." I have only two configured IP address. One internal,
>  one
>  external. Both are recognized immediately upon unloading and
reloading
>  of SLPTCP.  I have not changed any of the defaults for SLP.CFG.
>
>  Any input greatly appreciated.
>
>  Corey Mang

------------------------------

Date:         Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:38:25 -0500
From:    Joe Doupnik <JRD at CC.USU.EDU>
Subject: Re: SLP

>Thanks for the reply Joe,
>
>This is a new installation. Single server. When the installation was
>first completed the SLP screen displayed. Everything appeared normal. I

>wrestled with the DHCP client,  attempting to connect to an ADSL
service
>here in BC that uses supernetting. NAT would not function in this
>configuration and after seeking advice from several sources with no
>success, I switched the customer over to a cable service; connectivity
>problems solved. At some point I do not recall, I began to recieve the
>SLP UA warning.
>
>I followed the intructions you provided another list recipient. I have
>applied support pack 1, created the SLP DA and scope objects, and run
>dsrepair. When I run slpda from the console I recieve the error 'DA has

>not been configured for any scopes or containers. SLP DA not loaded'.
>
>Thanks again for the input
>
>Corey
------------
        Look in NDS, via nwadmn32 and see what it has for SLP support.
Use the examples in my paper for comparison. Also check your etc/hosts,
etc/slp.cfg, and etc/resolv.cfg files for proper IP configuration
because
you did make that provider change. If necessary remove the SLP material
from NDS and regenerate it (usually loading slpda will do this, but
double
check to make sure).
        Joe D.

------------------------------

 

From tch at IQX.CO.UK  Tue Jan  9 19:39:23 2001
From: tch at IQX.CO.UK (Tim Heywood, IQX)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:39:23 -0500
Subject: POP forwarding with GroupWise -- bloatware?
References: <3A5AE440.11921.18F3F695@localhost>
Message-ID: <007701c07a74$7ea08d20$0a00a8c0@toy>

Ken,

I have tried all of the different suggestions that have been mentioned.  I
have seen reports on the Novell forums from people who use the PFA but my
experiences are poor to say the least.  Barry Merchant says that the
standard ETRN in GroupWise works, but again I have my doubts on this.  The
most successful solution has been GETMAIL running as a CRON job, and this
has worked very well indeed.  get the ISP to host the MX record and set your
filters to only allow incoming SMTP traffic from the subnet that their mail
servers use and you are away, static NAT and all.

Need more help?  Just let me know

Tim
************************************************
Tim Heywood
IQX Ltd.
Scotland
(God's Country)

"Like a splinter in your mind... Driving you MAD"
************************************************
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Wade" <kmwade at GENDATASYS.COM>
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
To: <NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: POP forwarding with GroupWise -- bloatware?


> If you can do an ETRN, I think that would work the best.  If not, I
> think you're stuck with the PFA unless you want to buy MAX! Message
> Server.  They have a POP forwarding NLM for Groupwise.  Their website is
> http://www.weitlandt.com/max.htm .
>
> -------- Original Message:
>
> Have you considered having your GWIA use the ETRN function (in the doc
> section labeled 'Configuring SMTP Dial-Up Services') to poll for mail from
> the ISP, instead of using POP functions.  I haven't ever actually done
this
> myself, but it seems to me like "a better way" as it eliminates your
> concerns over loading additional processing on your server.
>
> >>> wallewek at KMSI.NET 01/09/01 03:52AM >>>
> As I posted here a short while ago, I need to set up a shared email
> environment on NetWare Small Business 5.1 for a lawyer and his staff: one
> email account, everybody shares it, nothing gets overlooked.
>
> I'm configuring GroupWise 5.5 with everyone having proxy access to the one
> account.  So far, that looks pretty clean.  But I'm having second thoughts
> about what has to run on the server.
>
> There's the Post Office (PO) NLM, the Message Transfer Agent (MTA) NLM,
and
> the GroupWise Internet Agent (GWIA) NLM, for starters.  Then, in order to
> to POP access through the NAT wall (I want the server polling for mail,
not
> having it sent via SMTP via a static NAT rule) it looks like I have to run
> the POP Forwarding Agent (PFA).  PFA is so new hardly anybody at Novell
> knows anything about it.  It appears to be a Java script, requiring the
> server to run a Java process (NLM isn't quite the right term) and to top
it
> all off, it positively requires the X GUI and ConsoleOne to be up and
> running at all times.
>
> There's GOT to be a better way!
>
> Oh, BTW, has anybody found any way to do anything useful with NW5x virtual
> memory?  I found a Novell document that says it should work well with GW,
> but not a peep about actually doing anything.
>
> /kenw
> Ken Wallewein
> Calgary, Alberta
> kenw at kmsi.net
>

 

From PCatelinet at CGSH.COM  Tue Jan  9 19:59:15 2001
From: PCatelinet at CGSH.COM (Phil Catelinet)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:59:15 -0500
Subject: NW51 NWCS1.01 <- Preferred Backup Solution?
Message-ID: <OF3F8AC51B.D75F303B-ON852569CF.006CE41E@cgsh.com>

We have implemented clustering in all of our offices in the US and abroad.
For various reasons we've had to remove it from our servers here in New
York but elsewhere it continues to work well.  (If you want the full story
on why we abandoned clustering here I can share it with you.)
For backups in the remote offices we use BackupExec.  Most offices ended up
putting a tape drive in one or both servers to back up the volumes mounted
on each server.  BE tends to back up whatever's mounted so we have to be
careful when servers ABEND and make sure we migrate the volumes back to
their preferred servers.  Otherwise we might run out of tape space.

Here in NY we use an optical platter system called Commvault to back up
Novell, Lotus Notes, and some NT servers.  It's a large platter box with 4
drives and an attached SPARC Station.  It's well worth the $200000 or so we
spent on it but it's obviously not the solution for everyone.  I think
you'd be fine with tapes and BE or Arcserve.

Phil


Philip E. Catelinet
Senior Network Analyst/Engineer
Cleary, Gottlieb, Steen & Hamilton
(212) 225-3201
pcatelinet at cgsh.com
http://www.cgsh.com



                                                                                                                   
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                    01/09/2001           Subject:     NW51 NWCS1.01 <- Preferred Backup Solution?                  
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We are going to be deploying a NW51 SP2a based NWCS1.01 cluster soon.
Could
anyone out there currently running NWCS1.01 recommend a backup solution
that
works well with it? ?We've had a lot of success with ARCserve in our
non-clustered NetWare environment and are most likely going to go with
ARCserve
7 but if you have any experience based suggestions...

Thanks,
Philip Dohnanyi




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From seanb at PROPHET.MB.CA  Tue Jan  9 20:11:25 2001
From: seanb at PROPHET.MB.CA (Sean Beggs)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 15:11:25 -0500
Subject: Backup Exec
References: <200101092000.f09K0EZ12665@mx1.mts.net>
Message-ID: <3A5B7096.32689FA@prophet.mb.ca>

Hi, all

I'm going to give you scant details on this subject as I don't have all
information on me right now, but I'm not sure if every little detail is
needed, so I'll just ask:

I have Backup Exec 7.x on a NW 4.11 server.  It seems to take up 3
licenses (none have asterisks).  Does anyone know why it requires 3
licenses?  It doesn't backup agents. There is a server on the other side
of the wan, but I don't know if that would take up a BE license,
considering it doesn't have BE on it.

Any ideas you could shoot my way would be appreciated. Thanks!

Sean Beggs
Prophet Business Group Ltd.
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

 

From alister.leask at AUT.AC.NZ  Tue Jan  9 20:16:31 2001
From: alister.leask at AUT.AC.NZ (Alister Leask)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 15:16:31 -0500
Subject: NW51 SP2a success stories
Message-ID: <sa5c27b9.095@gwwel1>

Hi Alex,

We have had positive experiences with SP2 - not 2a specifically as I
have not tried 2a nor downloaded the update (we do not rely on IP for
NDS synchronisation). Bear in mind that the only difference that I am
aware of between SP2 and SP2a is the winsock stuff.
We have Sp2 on several servers that are running without problems and
have been for a while. The servers in question do things like general
file and print, GroupWise WebAccess and NDPS services. I did have an
issue with processor utilization after a 4.11 to 5.1 SP2 upgrade but
both I and Novell Technical Services do not believe that was related
to Sp2 in any way. Actually it was the client trying to do
opportunistic locking of files on the server.

hth,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Most of the posts I have seen concerning NW51 SP2a have
not been favorable.

Are there any success stories out there regarding SP2a ??

<<<snipped stuff here>>>

Alister Leask
ITG Networks
Auckland University of Technology

 

From corey at HOMETEK.COM  Tue Jan  9 20:19:09 2001
From: corey at HOMETEK.COM (Corey Mang)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 15:19:09 -0500
Subject: annoyed
Message-ID: <3A5B721A.4BAE42BE@hometek.com>

You might want to review those procedures. I'm just glad your not a
pilot.

Amused

------------------------------

Date:         Tue, 9 Jan 2001 15:19:09 -0500
From:    Anwahs at AOL.COM
Subject: annoyed

I have sent numerous emails and followed all of the right procedures to
be removed from your mailing list with no success.
Please remove me promptly!

Thank you -
anwahs at aol.com

------------------------------

 

From PCatelinet at CGSH.COM  Tue Jan  9 20:54:51 2001
From: PCatelinet at CGSH.COM (Phil Catelinet)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 15:54:51 -0500
Subject: Backup Exec
Message-ID: <OF76BF5DF8.58D4DAEB-ON852569CF.0070CE58@cgsh.com>

I seem to remember that older versions of BE would hold connections for
backup jobs but not reuse them.  So each time you started a new backup you
might find BE using a new connection instead of the old ones.  I don't
remember how we cleared the connections aside from a reboot.

Phil




                    <NOVELL at LSV.S
                    YR.EDU>              To:     <NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU>
                                         cc:     (bcc: Phil Catelinet/NY/Cgsh)
                    01/09/2001           Subject:     Backup Exec
                    03:12 PM
                    Please
                    respond to
                    NOVELL





Hi, all

I'm going to give you scant details on this subject as I don't have all
information on me right now, but I'm not sure if every little detail is
needed, so I'll just ask:

I have Backup Exec 7.x on a NW 4.11 server.  It seems to take up 3
licenses (none have asterisks).  Does anyone know why it requires 3
licenses?  It doesn't backup agents. There is a server on the other side
of the wan, but I don't know if that would take up a BE license,
considering it doesn't have BE on it.

Any ideas you could shoot my way would be appreciated. Thanks!

Sean Beggs
Prophet Business Group Ltd.
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

 

From jmeyrose at EXECPC.COM  Tue Jan  9 20:54:54 2001
From: jmeyrose at EXECPC.COM (~Jennifer Meyrose~)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 15:54:54 -0500
Subject: Mail folder on the server
In-Reply-To: <200101092000.f09K0Cg00111@a.mx.execpc.com>
Message-ID: <LPBBJICNAOOLHJFBKINGIEMBDKAA.jmeyrose@execpc.com>

        I am running Netware 4.11 and Groupwise 4.1a.   We only have
internet access via dial up accounts.  My question is:
        Why do I have multiple folders beneath my Mail folder on the server?
Can I delete these subfolders?  Can someone please explain to me what these
are used for?  I understand from Novell's site that they are created when a
new user is created. ?
        TIA,
        Jenny M.

 

From ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU  Tue Jan  9 21:01:01 2001
From: ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU (Joe Acquisto)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 16:01:01 -0500
Subject: edir on Caldera Linux
Message-ID: <sa5b309e.057@lan.newpaltz.edu>

>. . . on the license thing.

FWIW, if one looks at "additional information", and one reads far
enough, not dismissing it an "Yet Another Readme", one find a link to
where one can apply for an eval license.

Would it be too much to ask for this to be in the "standard" readme's
as well?  Does it have to be such a Treasure Hunt all the time?  Eh?

Now,  one can only hope it is a "universal" eval license.

joea/

 

From JRD at CC.USU.EDU  Tue Jan  9 21:02:00 2001
From: JRD at CC.USU.EDU (Joe Doupnik)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 16:02:00 -0500
Subject: Mail folder on the server
Message-ID: <01JYPF8JSDH494GEQF@cc.usu.edu>

>        I am running Netware 4.11 and Groupwise 4.1a.   We only have
>internet access via dial up accounts.  My question is:
>        Why do I have multiple folders beneath my Mail folder on the server?
>Can I delete these subfolders?  Can someone please explain to me what these
>are used for?  I understand from Novell's site that they are created when a
>new user is created. ?
>        TIA,
>        Jenny M.
--------
        The subdirectories are created whenever a bindery login is performed.
Each user has its own id, and the directory name is that value in hex.
NDS logins do not involve the mail directory.
        Joe D.

 

From columbo at DDS.NL  Tue Jan  9 22:00:25 2001
From: columbo at DDS.NL (Roland Kool)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 17:00:25 -0500
Subject: edir on Caldera Linux
In-Reply-To: <sa5ac053.064@lan.newpaltz.edu>
Message-ID: <NOVELL%2001010917002586@LSV.SYR.EDU>

> I appreciate your offer and may take you up on it.  But, the only reason
> for looking at Caldera was the version that came with 100
> user edir (8.0) on the NUI CD.  Not that Caldera is bad.  That version
> installed perfectly, and with little incident, exept for the "non-stock"
> NIC
> which I worked out pretty quickly.
>
> No, I do not think this is Novell's "fault".  They clearly state in the
> edir 8.5
> readme (?), that Red HAt and RPM is a pre-requisite for install
>

Where did you see that Red Hat was a pre-requisite? I only found
lines saying Linux with minimum kernel, some kind of glibc version
and RPM software.


> I just went ahead anyway.
>
> I have no problem taking this off list, as this particular issue  is
> only
> marginally Novell related.  But edir, as such, is and issues related to
> installl/licensing are Novell issues.  The line to be crossed meanders
> a bit.  I'm waiting now for Novell sales to enlighten me on the license
> thing.
>
Well the trial licenses must be requested from Novell. It takes a few
weeks before they arive. For the time being, you can hack the install
script and remove the license check.

Roland

 

From columbo at DDS.NL  Tue Jan  9 22:00:40 2001
From: columbo at DDS.NL (Roland Kool)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 17:00:40 -0500
Subject: edir on Caldera Linux
In-Reply-To: <sa59bd0e.052@lan.newpaltz.edu>
Message-ID: <NOVELL%2001010917004010@LSV.SYR.EDU>

> >Joe, do you mean that you can't/don't know how to install without RPM
>
> Yes.
>

Well RPM --help should do it. rpm -i *.rpm?
rpm is available on every linux distro. Most of the time,
dependencies will fail, but the --nodep parameter is pretty handy
here. Make sure the software is asks for, is installed, but not
necessarily as RPM.

> >or that you want more installation control/rollback etc.?
>
> Ummmm, No?
>
> For all practical purposes, I am a Linux Newbie.  While I can get stuff
> working, as long as I have some semblance of docs,  I fell flat when
> looking through the RPM script to attempt it manually.  No clue.
>

RPM has lot's of parameters and works on almost all Linux distro's.
Most of the time, RPM installing fails because of missing
dependencies. The checks are done against some small db of installed
RPM's. You can install all the so-called-missing-dependencies
manually and use the --nodep parameter with RPM to get it installed.

> Soooo, I trotted (OK, so I drove) down to the local Mall and sprung
> $25.00 USD for a Linux for Dummies with 3 entire CD's included.  Version
> 7.  (Shows what I know.)
>
> The show stopper there was that I can't get the Linksys LNE100 NIC (I'm
> cheap, this is my "at home learning" box) to "make" without warnings and
> the resultant ".o" file will not "depmod" without errors.  (RH was kind
> enough to declare they now look at moudules.conf and not conf.modules.
> Litttle known but useless fact. Did not help much).   Sniffle, whine,
> whimper.
>

The Linksys NIC will probably use some kind of controller chip. cat
/proc/pci to find out which one. Compile your kernel with the network
drivers that supports the chipset and you should not have problems.

Anyway, it seems that RedHat is the only distribution on which eDir
will work. If anyone got it working on non-RedHat, I'd love to hear
that.
I've tested debian and SuSE and on both, the SLPINFO program does not
run. No SLP, No NDS. Period. So you are warned ;-)


> At work, my temp solution, as this is an edir pre-deployment "lab
> exercise" was to blow away the Linux box and install nw5.1, leaving the
> Solaris and Linux exercise to the more experienced.
>
> Which leads me to a tangential issue.  They, and I, could not find the
> ever elusive .nlf files that the (downloaded) 8.5 install variants want.
>  I suppose, despite the docs, that one has to purchase NDS Corporate
> edition (or name dujour) to obtain such?
>

Request a trial license and for the time being, hack the install
script so it doesn't complain about missing or corrupt licenses.

Roland

 

From MarkSmith at DATAIP.CO.UK  Tue Jan  9 22:08:40 2001
From: MarkSmith at DATAIP.CO.UK (Mark Smith)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 17:08:40 -0500
Subject: POP forwarding with GroupWise -- bloatware?
Message-ID: <sa5b8b25.037@FS1.co.uk>

PFA is a Java program. but does not need the X-GUI or ConsoleOne to be running. PFA works fine here running on a single SBS5.1 server, connecting to multiple POP boxes at the ISP. Have also connected to multiple ISPs POP boxes without problem. Here we use NIAS to give a dial on demand connection over a standard 56k modem to pick up mail using the PFA scheduler.

Have to say, I would prefer it to be an NLM... then you wouldn't have the overhead of the Java interpreter which I guess isn't being used for any of the other services on our system.

========================

PFA is so new hardly anybody at Novell
knows anything about it.  It appears to be a Java script, requiring the
server to run a Java process (NLM isn't quite the right term) and to top it
all off, it positively requires the X GUI and ConsoleOne to be up and
running at all times.

 

From MarkSmith at DATAIP.CO.UK  Tue Jan  9 22:23:11 2001
From: MarkSmith at DATAIP.CO.UK (Mark Smith)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 17:23:11 -0500
Subject: NW51 SP2a - success stories ?
Message-ID: <sa5b8e8c.038@FS1.co.uk>

I have been following the NW51SP2(a) thread quite closely. Back in December we had a customer's SBS5.1 box that we had (and still have) major trouble with.

Did an upgrade from SBS4.2 -> SBS5.1 then added SP2 directly. Result: no logins or licencing. A call to Novell gained the info that the wrong server.exe had been copied by the SP install. Sorted that, but many many other problems. Tried the SP2A changes, still no good. Resorted to reinstalling then adding SP1. I am guessing that many other wrong files made it to the server.

Our customer's confidence in Novell has been dented. Previously his SBS4.2 server ran without a problem.

Odd thing is, I did exactly the same (except the SP1 step) upgrade on our own box with identical hardware (except we do have more memory) ... 
SBS4.2 -> SBS5.1 -> SP1 -> SP2 and this one works perfectly.

I am informed by Novell that SP2a DOES NOT fix all of the known issues with SP2.

I know that SP2 was pulled because of issues found in December. Is it not time to also withdraw SP2A?

 

From Bob_Cameron at LSE.COM.AU  Tue Jan  9 22:26:54 2001
From: Bob_Cameron at LSE.COM.AU (Bob Cameron)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 17:26:54 -0500
Subject: NW51 SP2a success stories
In-Reply-To: <sa5c27b9.095@gwwel1>
Message-ID: <005901c07a8b$3b821ec0$4401000a@lse.com.au>

I just went through the upgrade process of 4.10 to 5.10 to 5.10SP2A

Apart from the amount of learning required I only had two problems. One was
Monitor "hanging" when I tried to clear an errant connection (turned out to
be an early Intel E100 card as per the TID) The other which I haven't yet
resolved is the xvndsw32.dll error when start the Netware Adminstrator. I
haven't tried to fix that yet. (Started occurring after SP2A installed)

I disabled the backup option on updating to SP2A. (If its relevent)

Cheers Bob


> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> Most of the posts I have seen concerning NW51 SP2a have
> not been favorable.
>
> Are there any success stories out there regarding SP2a ??
>
> <<<snipped stuff here>>>
>
> Alister Leask
> ITG Networks
> Auckland University of Technology
>

 

From PCatelinet at CGSH.COM  Tue Jan  9 22:49:13 2001
From: PCatelinet at CGSH.COM (Phil Catelinet)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 17:49:13 -0500
Subject: NW51 NWCS1.01 <- Preferred Backup Solution?
Message-ID: <OF81D74909.78463B50-ON852569CF.007CB559@cgsh.com>

Here's the short version, posted to the List.

The story is really more of a fable about the perils of Storage Computer
RAID arrays, not NetWare clustering per se.  We had lots of trouble with a
RAID array system from a vendor whose systems never have problems.  A disk
failed and due to some confirmed bad hardware the rebuild process corrupted
data on the array.  We replaced the hardware but kept the drives, which
still had errors.  Later, we replaced more hardware and ended up restriping
the array, but our crucial mistake was not removing the cluster object from
the tree before restriping and restoring data.  When we tried to mount the
clustered volumes, they wouldn't mount.  So we recreated the volumes as
regular NSS volumes instead and restored data to them.  We've left it that
way.  We also moved one server to another RAID array for further fault
tolerance, so now we have 2 NetWare servers connected to two different RAID
arrays, with some volumes mirrored manually at periodic intervals.  We are
looking for a product (possible StandbyServer) that will mirror the data on
both servers.  However, we would like to keep both servers operational at
all times for load balancing purposes, so standby might not work for us.
Any ideas would be useful.

In our European and Asian offices, as well as our Washington, DC office,
clustering continues to perform well for us on a variety of server and
RAID/SAN platforms.  Overall we're satisfied with it, but here in the home
office, it's not an option anymore.

Phil

Philip E. Catelinet
Senior Network Analyst/Engineer
Cleary, Gottlieb, Steen & Hamilton
(212) 225-3201
pcatelinet at cgsh.com
http://www.cgsh.com




                                                                                                                   
                    <geoffc at yorku                                                                                  
                    .ca>                 To:     <PCatelinet at NYsmtp01.CGSH.COM>                                    
                                         cc:                                                                       
                    01/09/2001           Subject:     Re: NW51 NWCS1.01 <- Preferred Backup Solution?              
                    05:38 PM                                                                                       
                    Please                                                                                         
                    respond to                                                                                     
                    geoffc                                                                                         
                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                   



I would be interested in the story about Clustering, even if you choose
not to post it to the general list.


On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Phil Catelinet wrote:

> We have implemented clustering in all of our offices in the US and
abroad.
> For various reasons we've had to remove it from our servers here in New
> York but elsewhere it continues to work well.  (If you want the full
story
> on why we abandoned clustering here I can share it with you.)
> For backups in the remote offices we use BackupExec.  Most offices ended
up
> putting a tape drive in one or both servers to back up the volumes
mounted
> on each server.  BE tends to back up whatever's mounted so we have to be
> careful when servers ABEND and make sure we migrate the volumes back to
> their preferred servers.  Otherwise we might run out of tape space.
>
> Here in NY we use an optical platter system called Commvault to back up
> Novell, Lotus Notes, and some NT servers.  It's a large platter box with
4
> drives and an attached SPARC Station.  It's well worth the $200000 or so
we
> spent on it but it's obviously not the solution for everyone.  I think
> you'd be fine with tapes and BE or Arcserve.
>
> Phil
>
>
> Philip E. Catelinet
> Senior Network Analyst/Engineer
> Cleary, Gottlieb, Steen & Hamilton
> (212) 225-3201
> pcatelinet at cgsh.com
> http://www.cgsh.com
>
>
>
>
>                     <NOVELL at LSV.S
>                     YR.EDU>              To:     <NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU>
>                                          cc:     (bcc: Phil
Catelinet/NY/Cgsh)
>                     01/09/2001           Subject:     NW51 NWCS1.01 <-
Preferred Backup Solution?
>                     11:22 AM
>                     Please
>                     respond to
>                     NOVELL
>
>
>
>
>
> We are going to be deploying a NW51 SP2a based NWCS1.01 cluster soon.
> Could
> anyone out there currently running NWCS1.01 recommend a backup solution
> that
> works well with it? ?We've had a lot of success with ARCserve in our
> non-clustered NetWare environment and are most likely going to go with
> ARCserve
> 7 but if you have any experience based suggestions...
>
> Thanks,
> Philip Dohnanyi
>
>
>
>
>
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From Philip.Dohnanyi at WPGINVEST.COM  Tue Jan  9 23:14:26 2001
From: Philip.Dohnanyi at WPGINVEST.COM (Philip.Dohnanyi at WPGINVEST.COM)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 18:14:26 -0500
Subject: NW51 NWCS1.01
Message-ID: <852569CF.007F747E.00@nylnmta.wpginvest.com>

Vinca may not be a good solution if performance is important. ?Basically every
disk write to the primary server gets duplicated over to it's "mirror" on the
standby server across a LAN link. ?Also, the mirrors on the standby server
aren't accessible to clients - they only becomes available in the event of a
failover. ?Basically there's no load balancing here.

What you might want to look into is Novell Replication Services. ?Especially if
the data doesn't need to be synchronized in real time NRS does a pretty good job
of keeping data in sync between two separate servers. ?I've only worked with it
though on fairly small volumes, not sure how it performs with large amounts of
data.

Phil D.
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|                         |   <PCatelinet at CGSH.COM> |   ? ? ? ? To:           |
|                         |                         |   NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU    |
|                         |   01/09/2001 05:50 PM   |   ? ? ? ? cc:           |
|                         |   Please respond to     |   (bcc: Philip          |
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|                         |                         |   Preferred Backup      |
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Here's the short version, posted to the List.

The story is really more of a fable about the perils of Storage Computer
RAID arrays, not NetWare clustering per se. ?We had lots of trouble with a
RAID array system from a vendor whose systems never have problems. ?A disk
failed and due to some confirmed bad hardware the rebuild process corrupted
data on the array. ?We replaced the hardware but kept the drives, which
still had errors. ?Later, we replaced more hardware and ended up restriping
the array, but our crucial mistake was not removing the cluster object from
the tree before restriping and restoring data. ?When we tried to mount the
clustered volumes, they wouldn't mount. ?So we recreated the volumes as
regular NSS volumes instead and restored data to them. ?We've left it that
way. ?We also moved one server to another RAID array for further fault
tolerance, so now we have 2 NetWare servers connected to two different RAID
arrays, with some volumes mirrored manually at periodic intervals. ?We are
looking for a product (possible StandbyServer) that will mirror the data on
both servers. ?However, we would like to keep both servers operational at
all times for load balancing purposes, so standby might not work for us.
Any ideas would be useful.

In our European and Asian offices, as well as our Washington, DC office,
clustering continues to perform well for us on a variety of server and
RAID/SAN platforms. ?Overall we're satisfied with it, but here in the home
office, it's not an option anymore.

Phil

Philip E. Catelinet
Senior Network Analyst/Engineer
Cleary, Gottlieb, Steen & Hamilton
(212) 225-3201
pcatelinet at cgsh.com
http://www.cgsh.com





? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? <geoffc at yorku
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?.ca> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? To: ? ? <PCatelinet at NYsmtp01.CGSH.COM>
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? cc:
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?01/09/2001 ? ? ? ? ? Subject: ? ? Re: NW51 NWCS1.01 <-
Preferred Backup Solution?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?05:38 PM
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Please
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?respond to
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?geoffc





I would be interested in the story about Clustering, even if you choose
not to post it to the general list.


On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Phil Catelinet wrote:

> We have implemented clustering in all of our offices in the US and
abroad.
> For various reasons we've had to remove it from our servers here in New
> York but elsewhere it continues to work well. ?(If you want the full
story
> on why we abandoned clustering here I can share it with you.)
> For backups in the remote offices we use BackupExec. ?Most offices ended
up
> putting a tape drive in one or both servers to back up the volumes
mounted
> on each server. ?BE tends to back up whatever's mounted so we have to be
> careful when servers ABEND and make sure we migrate the volumes back to
> their preferred servers. ?Otherwise we might run out of tape space.
>
> Here in NY we use an optical platter system called Commvault to back up
> Novell, Lotus Notes, and some NT servers. ?It's a large platter box with
4
> drives and an attached SPARC Station. ?It's well worth the $200000 or so
we
> spent on it but it's obviously not the solution for everyone. ?I think
> you'd be fine with tapes and BE or Arcserve.
>
> Phil
>
>
> Philip E. Catelinet
> Senior Network Analyst/Engineer
> Cleary, Gottlieb, Steen & Hamilton
> (212) 225-3201
> pcatelinet at cgsh.com
> http://www.cgsh.com
>
>
>
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? <NOVELL at LSV.S
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? YR.EDU> ? ? ? ? ? ? ?To: ? ? <NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?cc: ? ? (bcc: Phil
Catelinet/NY/Cgsh)
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 01/09/2001 ? ? ? ? ? Subject: ? ? NW51 NWCS1.01 <-
Preferred Backup Solution?
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 11:22 AM
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Please
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? respond to
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? NOVELL
>
>
>
>
>
> We are going to be deploying a NW51 SP2a based NWCS1.01 cluster soon.
> Could
> anyone out there currently running NWCS1.01 recommend a backup solution
> that
> works well with it? ?We've had a lot of success with ARCserve in our
> non-clustered NetWare environment and are most likely going to go with
> ARCserve
> 7 but if you have any experience based suggestions...
>
> Thanks,
> Philip Dohnanyi
>
>
>
>


---
Geoffrey Carman
York University
geoffc at yorku.ca









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From wallewek at KMSI.NET  Wed Jan 10 00:18:38 2001
From: wallewek at KMSI.NET (wallewek at KMSI.NET)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 19:18:38 -0500
Subject: POP forwarding with GroupWise -- bloatware?
In-Reply-To: <sa5b8b25.037@FS1.co.uk>
References: <sa5b8b25.037@FS1.co.uk>
Message-ID: <j7an5t0pesimq10vq2q5ashaagje3e9nhu@4ax.com>

On Tue, 9 Jan 2001 22:05:17 +0000, you wrote:

>PFA is a Java program. but does not need the X-GUI or ConsoleOne to be running.

Are you _sure_ about that?  When PFA starts up, it puts a login window on
the ConsoleOne screen, and you have to log it in as the PFA user.  The
documentation is very clear that if that little window on the ConsoleOne
screen disappears for any reason, PFA stops and will not continue until it
is logged back in again.  I can't easily try it myself; the client site is
a ways from here.

It's beginning to look like I need to double the RAM on this server to run
all that &^%$&^%$.   Not what I expect from Novell at all.

/kenw
Ken Wallewein
Calgary, Alberta
kenw at kmsi.net

 

From wallewek at KMSI.NET  Wed Jan 10 00:26:58 2001
From: wallewek at KMSI.NET (wallewek at KMSI.NET)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 19:26:58 -0500
Subject: POP forwarding with GroupWise -- bloatware?
In-Reply-To: <007701c07a74$7ea08d20$0a00a8c0@toy>
References: <3A5AE440.11921.18F3F695@localhost>
            <007701c07a74$7ea08d20$0a00a8c0@toy>
Message-ID: <tjan5t09ev48f6amubur7one56sjg5sba4@4ax.com>

On Tue, 9 Jan 2001 19:43:51 -0000, Tim Heywood wrote:

>Ken,
>
>I have tried all of the different suggestions that have been mentioned.  I
>have seen reports on the Novell forums from people who use the PFA but my
>experiences are poor to say the least.  Barry Merchant says that the
>standard ETRN in GroupWise works, but again I have my doubts on this.  The
>most successful solution has been GETMAIL running as a CRON job, and this
>has worked very well indeed.  get the ISP to host the MX record and set your
>filters to only allow incoming SMTP traffic from the subnet that their mail
>servers use and you are away, static NAT and all.

The thing is, I was hoping to avoid any special arrangements with the ISP,
and inbound connections, etc.  This client doesn't have his own registerend
domain name.  MX-based SMTP removes the safety net of store-and-forward
mail servers.  And it means that if server is down for any reason, inbound
email bounces.  I hate that.

To me, for a small office, POP (or IMAP) is the way to go.  Nice and safe.

Not that the ISP's record is perfect.... ;-P.

But I will lok into both alternatives.  Thanks to all who responded!

/kenw
Ken Wallewein
Calgary, Alberta
kenw at kmsi.net

 

From Ming.Lam at HEALTH.WA.GOV.AU  Wed Jan 10 06:37:46 2001
From: Ming.Lam at HEALTH.WA.GOV.AU (Lam, Ming)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 01:37:46 -0500
Subject: Connecting NT to Netware 4.11
Message-ID: <877911D919BFD1118A0400A0C98CCC00E87F@nt03nmgqe2.qe2.health.wa.gov.au>

Thanks Joop and Brandon

As suggested I copy the whole novell dir into the temp dir and it install
with no problem.  If this is the case, how do I create a CD for direct
installation.  I also download client 3.3 at the same time.  Does the same
apply?  I have never downloaded the Novell client before as it is so big and
I was using modem till recently.

Ming

 

From Alar at MTK.UT.EE  Wed Jan 10 09:56:02 2001
From: Alar at MTK.UT.EE (Alar Pandis)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 04:56:02 -0500
Subject: ZENworks 3 inventory
Message-ID: <NBBBLEPANKOBBECLEKCIEEFGEOAA.Alar@mtk.ut.ee>

Hi!

NW5.1 SP2a, ZENworks3 SP1, client4.8 ZEN3SP1. On Windows 2000 Pro inventory
works (set auto when user log in), but on NT4 it doesn't. When I run
ntscan32.exe manually on ws then inventory info will added from WS into db,
minimal appear there some time later, but during login nothing happen. Seems
to that NT doesn't run some (?) service on WS, I mean during login. WS-s is
correctly imoprted etc.

Any hints?

Thanks,
Alar.

------------------------------------------------------
Alar Pandis
Computer Systems Operator
Faculty of Economics and Business Administration
Tartu University, Narva 4-B303, 51009
Tartu, ESTONIA
tel +372 7 376 316, fax +372 7 376 312
e-mail Alar at mtk.ut.ee
------------------------------------------------------

 

From larry_burd at COMPUSERVE.COM  Wed Jan 10 12:56:37 2001
From: larry_burd at COMPUSERVE.COM (Larry Burd)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 07:56:37 -0500
Subject: 4.10 was nicer
Message-ID: <200101100756_MC2-C129-EEEA@compuserve.com>

patching was much safer with 4.10
applied one patch at a time, left it for a few days.  all OK, move on to
another patch.  Took a month :)  but at least you knew right away what the
problem was, if any.  I can see this being a problem for consultants, but
not for in house people.    My 5.0 server is very stable with sp3a, and is
staying that way until it needs to be patched.

I have a friend who is a consultant.  most customers are moving to NT I
hear..........

Larry

 

From MarkSmith at DATAIP.CO.UK  Wed Jan 10 13:35:50 2001
From: MarkSmith at DATAIP.CO.UK (Mark Smith)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 08:35:50 -0500
Subject: POP forwarding with GroupWise -- bloatware?
Message-ID: <sa5c6489.043@FS1.co.uk>

We have done two installs of the SBS5.1 with GroupWise using PFA. At least on both of these setups the X console and ConsoleOne are NOT running.

If one types 'schedule' at the PFA prompt, then it loads a java configuration console, but not ConsoleOne.

Is this a different PFA? The only one I have experience of is that which ships with Small Business Suite 5.1..... PFA screen reports version 2 dated on screen 2000-06-09

Again I agree about the resources this appears to require. Needing to run the JVM just to download mail does seem to be a large overhead (I am assuming that no other running services also use java - can't see that they do here)


>PFA is a Java program. but does not need the X-GUI or ConsoleOne to be =
running.

Are you _sure_ about that?  When PFA starts up, it puts a login window on
the ConsoleOne screen, and you have to log it in as the PFA user.  The
documentation is very clear that if that little window on the ConsoleOne
screen disappears for any reason, PFA stops and will not continue until =
it
is logged back in again.  I can't easily try it myself; the client site =
is
a ways from here.

It's beginning to look like I need to double the RAM on this server to =
run
all that &^%$&^%$.   Not what I expect from Novell at all.



-- 
Mark Smith                                  dataIP
tel. +44(0)1785 609520                 fax. +44(0)1785 609521
smtp:MarkSmith at dataIP.co.uk     http://www.dataIP.co.uk/

 

From weaver at ARCHES.UGA.EDU  Wed Jan 10 13:42:25 2001
From: weaver at ARCHES.UGA.EDU (Michael Weaver)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 08:42:25 -0500
Subject: 4.10 was nicer
In-Reply-To: <200101100756_MC2-C129-EEEA@compuserve.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.WNT.4.30.0101100840090.1480-100000@herne>

On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Larry Burd wrote:
> I have a friend who is a consultant.  most customers are moving to NT I
> hear..........

And boy howdy, those NT Service packs haven't ever broken anything. And so
easy to find out what they did to the box as well. Just like those old,
trusty NW 4.10 patches.


What does this have to do with the price of tea in China?

Later,
Mike

--
Michael Weaver  (706)542-6462     weaver at arches.uga.edu
UCNS Network Specialist           LAN Support Group
University of Georgia, Athens Ga.         )O(
Public PGP key: http://www.arches.uga.edu/~weaver/pgp.html

 

From PCatelinet at CGSH.COM  Wed Jan 10 15:26:13 2001
From: PCatelinet at CGSH.COM (Phil Catelinet)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 10:26:13 -0500
Subject: volume trustee rights disappear
Message-ID: <OF33036764.8986F13B-ON852569D0.00537343@cgsh.com>

We're still experiencing this rights problem, although only in some offices
and on some volumes.  It's not widespread at this point.
I see the "missing" rights when I map a drive to an affected volume and
then either see the volume's properties in NWAdmin, or check the properties
of the volume in Explorer.  Either way, I see no trustee rights assigned
and usually hear about this from the Help Desk when users call in
complaining of login script errors, especially 8804 errors trying to map
drives.  The servers have R/W replicas of their partitions.  DSREPAIRs
don't seem to help, so I just reassign what I hope are the correct rights
and pray that they don't go away again.  I'm about ready to talk to Novell
on this one, because it's just too weird.

Phil




                    <NOVELL at LSV.S
                    YR.EDU>              To:     <NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU>
                                         cc:     (bcc: Phil Catelinet/NY/Cgsh)
                    01/08/2001           Subject:     Re: volume trustee rights disappear
                    07:13 AM
                    Please
                    respond to
                    NOVELL





Will the rights come back if you just reboot the server?  Did
you determine the lack of rights via NWadmin, or from the
failed location, via the client side?

I have had a recurring problem (only twice, but troubling), where
some users get such errors, some don't.  Login at different w/s or
at a different time (minutes), can be sucessful.  I've not tried to
determine if rights actually appear lost to DS, as it just now occured
to me.

In my case, the server had no replica, and the problem seemed
to get worse when I added a r/w replica (symptoms seemed,
for a while, to suggest it was unable to gain info from an off server
replica).

I have found that rebooting the server solves (?) the problem.

This is NW50, DS751a, sp5a.

joea/

>>> Phil Catelinet <PCatelinet at CGSH.COM> 01/08/01 00:49 AM >>>
System is NW 5.1 SP1, NSS volumes.  DS 8, ver 8.59.

We have a situation that seems to be affecting our worldwide network.
Users report 8804 errors on login when trying to map to certain volumes.
 A
check of the volume reveals that the volume has no trustee rights
assigned,
so no one can see it.  After reassigning the trustee rights the users
can
map to the drive.  I've run DSREPAIRs (unattended full)  on the affected
servers but that doesn't seem to help.  Is this some sort of DS
corruption?
Is there a particular DSREPAIR process that I should run to fix this?

Thanks,
Phil

 

From Alar at MTK.UT.EE  Wed Jan 10 15:37:40 2001
From: Alar at MTK.UT.EE (Alar Pandis)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 10:37:40 -0500
Subject: Remote Execute command to remember
Message-ID: <NBBBLEPANKOBBECLEKCIAEFHEOAA.Alar@mtk.ut.ee>

Hi!

ZfD3SP1. How to make Remote Execute to remember executable command. There
appear popup menu, but no lines keeping there. Same (error?) was in ZfD2.

Thanks,
Alar.

------------------------------------------------------
Alar Pandis
Computer Systems Operator
Faculty of Economics and Business Administration
Tartu University, Narva 4-B303, 51009
Tartu, ESTONIA
tel +372 7 376 316, fax +372 7 376 312
e-mail Alar at mtk.ut.ee
------------------------------------------------------

 

From wallewek at KMSI.NET  Wed Jan 10 15:58:06 2001
From: wallewek at KMSI.NET (wallewek at KMSI.NET)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 10:58:06 -0500
Subject: POP forwarding with GroupWise -- bloatware?
In-Reply-To: <sa5c6489.043@FS1.co.uk>
References: <sa5c6489.043@FS1.co.uk>
Message-ID: <kr0p5tkgikicquuibiam9gb4v3qao5d94m@4ax.com>

Huh.  That's fascinating.  Not having to run ConsoleOne is a big plus.
Now, if I can run the rest of it in protected space for virtual memory, I
might even be able to get the RAM requirements under control.

FWIW to others, I've been examining the ETRN/GETMAIL approach(es).  They
both involve sending an SMTP ETRN command to an SMTP server, which
initiates an SMTP mail transfer.  It appears to require that the receiving
server have a statically defined address, probably DNS-registered, because
the ETRN command appears to act as a third-party instruction that tells the
sender where to send the mail.  In otherwords, it's useless in a typical
cable/DSL connection with a NAT wall and DHCP-assigned external address --
static NAT or no static NAT.  A little behind the times.

POP still looks like the better technology: cheaper (in ISP fees), more
secure (no NAT holes) and more flexible.  Too bad Novell's implementation
is so fat.

/kenw

On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 13:32:52 +0000, Mark Smith <MarkSmith at DATAIP.CO.UK>
wrote:

>We have done two installs of the SBS5.1 with GroupWise using PFA. At least on both of these setups the X console and ConsoleOne are NOT running.
>
>If one types 'schedule' at the PFA prompt, then it loads a java configuration console, but not ConsoleOne.
>
>Is this a different PFA? The only one I have experience of is that which ships with Small Business Suite 5.1..... PFA screen reports version 2 dated on screen 2000-06-09
>
>Again I agree about the resources this appears to require. Needing to run the JVM just to download mail does seem to be a large overhead (I am assuming that no other running services also use java - can't see that they do here)

Ken Wallewein
Calgary, Alberta
kenw at kmsi.net

 

From Jason_Oliver at FIRSTAR.COM  Wed Jan 10 16:24:36 2001
From: Jason_Oliver at FIRSTAR.COM (Jason_Oliver at FIRSTAR.COM)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:24:36 -0500
Subject: DS6.11 Update question
Message-ID: <062569D0.005ACD63.00@mkeimail00.wi.firstar.com>

Subject:  DS6.11 Update question
Hello all.

I have a few questions regarding the DS version 6.11.

First, has anyone had any issues with this version of DS that might make me
rethink standardizing on it in our tree?

Secondly, we have not completed our approval process for the entire SP9 so we
must deploy only the DS upgrade at this point.  I do not like the NDSMGR "push"
DS update because of the length that it takes, and plus, the SP9 also includes
newer DSREPAIR.NLM that we would like to push out there also.  We have developed
a plan to do this, but I am not sure of a few things that I am hoping someone
can enlighten me on.  So here is what I am planning.  Any comments or
suggestions are welcome:

***Procedures***
1.  Clean up the tree
2.  Using Onsite Admin Pro, push the following files:
     DS.NLM
     DSAPI.NLM
     DSREPAIR.NLM
          **** Are there any other NLMs from SP9 that might be needed for the DS
upgrade? ***
3.  Using Onsite Admin Pro, to execute the server comsole command of:  SET
DSTRACE = *.   to restart DS on each server.
4.  Using DSREPAIR on out master replication servers, check TIMESYNC to see (1)
if it registers the newer version of DS and to see if it is ins SYNC'd.

Any answers or comments?  Thanks is advance!

Jason Oliver

 

From wdosch at PIONEER.STATE.ND.US  Wed Jan 10 16:39:01 2001
From: wdosch at PIONEER.STATE.ND.US (Wayne J. Dosch)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:39:01 -0500
Subject: files remain locked after closing
In-Reply-To: <sa5ad9af.008@luthercare>
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20010110103436.00912100@pioneer.state.nd.us>

Check out TID 2952441.

Wayne


At 09:27 AM 01/09/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>I've noticed this lately too. At our site, if a user opens a file in
>WordPerfect, then closes the file but doesn't close WordPerfect, the
>file remains locked. I haven't looked to see if it releases after some
>period of time or only after they finally close the program. I also
>haven't checked whether this is also true of other programs or not.
>
>Additionally, this is complicated because the file does NOT show as
>locked in Monitor. I'd be interested in what you discover.
>
>>>> Andre Laarakker <a.m.w.p.j.laarakker at ROCU.NL> 01/08/01 05:24AM >>>
>Hello,
>
>When someone opens a file you can see in Netware 3.2's Monitor,
>Connection Information, Open Files that  that file is locked.
>Normally locking is of course finished when the user closes the file.
>But in our organisation sometimes the file remains locked after the
>owner closes the file. Has anybody an idea what can be the
>reason?
>
>Thanks for your help.
>
>
>Met vriendelijke groeten
>
>Andre Laarakker
>Systeembeheer ROC Utrecht
>telefoon 030 - 28 19 350
>
>

 

From AHidalgo at SALUD.UNM.EDU  Wed Jan 10 16:47:45 2001
From: AHidalgo at SALUD.UNM.EDU (Al Hidalgo)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:47:45 -0500
Subject: Certificate Server & eDir 85
Message-ID: <sa5c2fb3.098@salud.unm.edu>

After upgrading to eDirectory 8.5 which installed Certificate Server 2.03, I get -1,460 errors trying to create user certificates. I went back to the 2.02 PKI but got the same error. SSL is working the Portal.nlm and with NSWEB and I can create server certs. DS is in sync and SAS is logged into the server. I have 
ever deleted and re-created SAS. Any Clues? 

Also how do you re-run the Certificate Server 2.03 install after installing eDir 8.5. (because you can't install eDir 8.5 twice)?

This worked fine with DS 8.73 prior to the eDir 8.5 (TAO) upgrade.

Thanks for any feedback,

Al



Al Hidalgo, MCNE
Senior Analyst
Information Systems
UNM Medical Center
ahidalgo at salud.unm.edu

 

From cdurnal at FWLAW.COM  Wed Jan 10 20:53:17 2001
From: cdurnal at FWLAW.COM (Chet Durnal)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 15:53:17 -0500
Subject: Restoring Groupwise User Archive
Message-ID: <sa5c69aa.067@FWFS2>

A user's archive was deleted. I restored them from tape, but when I tell GW to open the archive, it displays nothing. Help!

 

From rodent at VOYAGER.NET  Wed Jan 10 21:19:10 2001
From: rodent at VOYAGER.NET (rodent)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 16:19:10 -0500
Subject: blocking AIM & napster
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010110161552.029fc1d8@mail.voyager.net>

How can I block AOL Instant Messenger, and Napster from communicating
outside our network to their respective servers?

I know that AIM connects on a variety of IPs to a variety of port numbers,
does anyone have a complete list? Here are a few:

205.188.7.168: 5190
205.188.7.176: 5190
205.188.7.164: 5190
205.188.7.172: 5190

If you do autoconfigure in AIM, it will try other ports, but if I can at
least block outgoing to any destination on 5190, then I know how to block
the other ports for AIM.

As for napster, it's all over the place. Does anyone have any advice? I
hear it's pretty tough.

208.184.216.77.napster.com: 8888
208.184.216.38.napster.com: 8888
n184.napster.com: 8888
208.184.216.33.napster.com: 8888
n170.napster.com: 8888


// rodent @ voyager net

//www: http://chelsea.k12.mi.us/~rodent/
//aim: r0dent
//icq: 2575272

 

From rodent at VOYAGER.NET  Wed Jan 10 21:22:12 2001
From: rodent at VOYAGER.NET (rodent)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 16:22:12 -0500
Subject: unc vs. mapped drives
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010110162153.029efc98@mail.voyager.net>

In Zenworks2, we have a bunch of snapshot'd applications with their
source_path macro set to a UNC path instead of a specific mapped drive.

Some of our users run these applications from NAL and receive the following
error: "Cannot configure to your work station" (as quoted from a user).
When we change the UNC path to a mapped drive, it works perfectly. What's
the deal?

This problem only occurs with some users and not all, and not for all apps.
I created a test account using the same template that the problematic users
were created from, and successfully launched and distributed an application
with a UNC path..

Has anyone had this problem or can anyone shed some light on it?

Thanks.

// rodent @ voyager net

//www: http://chelsea.k12.mi.us/~rodent/
//aim: r0dent
//icq: 2575272

 

From greg at STEADFAST.CA  Wed Jan 10 22:26:07 2001
From: greg at STEADFAST.CA (Greg Bembridge, CET, CNE)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 17:26:07 -0500
Subject: Backup Exec Licenses
Message-ID: <3A5CBE10.D3ECB82D@steadfast.ca>

Well, I can't tell you why but I can tell you it is absolutely normal,
Arcserve does the same thing.  You definitely cannot limit simultaneous
connections on a backup object, they like to own the whole farm when
they are running.  But you can consider yourself lucky at only three
connections, often you see about five!

Sorry I couldn't help any more, but I have just accepted it and not
researched further.  Greg

>I have Backup Exec 7.x on a NW 4.11 server.  It seems to take up 3
>licenses (none have asterisks).  Does anyone know why it requires 3
>licenses?  It doesn't backup agents. There is a server on the other
side
>of the wan, but I don't know if that would take up a BE license,
>considering it doesn't have BE on it.

 

From rudiljak at IO.TELSTRA.COM.AU  Thu Jan 11 00:56:10 2001
From: rudiljak at IO.TELSTRA.COM.AU (Russell Udiljak)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 19:56:10 -0500
Subject: Backup Exec Licences
Message-ID: <000601c07b66$979f6420$b19bd98a@biscuit>

At my workplace we found that SMS compliant backup software required a
minimum of three simultaneous connections before it would work correctly. We
first noticed this when we migrated from ARCserve 4.02 (proprietory data
backup format) to ARCserve 5 (SMS compliant). Until that time we used to put
a limit on the number of simultaneous connections the backup account could
use. Increasing it to three fixed the problem.

I hope this is of some help.
Regards
Russell

 

From PAltmaier at MDGI.COM  Thu Jan 11 01:09:10 2001
From: PAltmaier at MDGI.COM (Phil Altmaier)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 20:09:10 -0500
Subject: Backup Exec Licenses
Message-ID: <61D5B3BA64A4D311A04A006008A6C64D0A3CA8@BELUGA>

Why limit the account at all??

Just restrict WHERE it can login and save yourself a bunch of headaches...

Phil

-----Original Message-----
From: Russell Udiljak [mailto:rudiljak at IO.TELSTRA.COM.AU]
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 3:37 PM
To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Re: Backup Exec Licences


At my workplace we found that SMS compliant backup software required a
minimum of three simultaneous connections before it would work correctly. We
first noticed this when we migrated from ARCserve 4.02 (proprietory data
backup format) to ARCserve 5 (SMS compliant). Until that time we used to put
a limit on the number of simultaneous connections the backup account could
use. Increasing it to three fixed the problem.

I hope this is of some help.
Regards
Russell

 

From hfleming at MOOSEBIRD.COM  Thu Jan 11 02:18:23 2001
From: hfleming at MOOSEBIRD.COM (Howard Fleming)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 21:18:23 -0500
Subject: blocking AIM & napster
In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010110161552.029fc1d8@mail.voyager.net>
Message-ID: <3A5CD148.27890.137E692@localhost>

AOL can be difficult to block (to put it mildly....).

What I did at work is all http traffic goes though the BM 3.0 proxy,
and in the rules I blocked http access to login.oscar.aol.com (could
have the address wrong, doing this from memory).

I then I setup packet level filtering setup that "should" block access
via NAT (in general) to a very few sites.  I have not loaded aim on my
workstation to see if I got all the holes, but considering that some
users have come by asking why it quit working, seems to have done
the job (at least for now).

As for napster, have not had a problem with that (at least yet).

Howard

On 10 Jan 2001, at 16:21, rodent wrote:

> How can I block AOL Instant Messenger, and Napster from communicating
> outside our network to their respective servers?
>
> I know that AIM connects on a variety of IPs to a variety of port
> numbers, does anyone have a complete list? Here are a few:
>
> 205.188.7.168: 5190
> 205.188.7.176: 5190
> 205.188.7.164: 5190
> 205.188.7.172: 5190
>
> If you do autoconfigure in AIM, it will try other ports, but if I can at
> least block outgoing to any destination on 5190, then I know how to
> block the other ports for AIM.
>
> As for napster, it's all over the place. Does anyone have any advice? I
> hear it's pretty tough.
>
> 208.184.216.77.napster.com: 8888
> 208.184.216.38.napster.com: 8888
> n184.napster.com: 8888
> 208.184.216.33.napster.com: 8888
> n170.napster.com: 8888
>
>
> // rodent @ voyager net
>
> //www: http://chelsea.k12.mi.us/~rodent/
> //aim: r0dent
> //icq: 2575272

 

From hbueno at MICRODSI.NET  Thu Jan 11 02:26:56 2001
From: hbueno at MICRODSI.NET (hbueno)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 21:26:56 -0500
Subject: blocking AIM & napster
References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010110161552.029fc1d8@mail.voyager.net>
Message-ID: <3A5D1A19.FD004F40@microdsi.net>

For AIM, just block ALL traffic to those addresses.

Hugo


rodent wrote:
>
> How can I block AOL Instant Messenger, and Napster from communicating
> outside our network to their respective servers?
>
> I know that AIM connects on a variety of IPs to a variety of port numbers,
> does anyone have a complete list? Here are a few:
>
> 205.188.7.168: 5190
> 205.188.7.176: 5190
> 205.188.7.164: 5190
> 205.188.7.172: 5190
>
> If you do autoconfigure in AIM, it will try other ports, but if I can at
> least block outgoing to any destination on 5190, then I know how to block
> the other ports for AIM.
>
> As for napster, it's all over the place. Does anyone have any advice? I
> hear it's pretty tough.
>
> 208.184.216.77.napster.com: 8888
> 208.184.216.38.napster.com: 8888
> n184.napster.com: 8888
> 208.184.216.33.napster.com: 8888
> n170.napster.com: 8888
>
> // rodent @ voyager net
>
> //www: http://chelsea.k12.mi.us/~rodent/
> //aim: r0dent
> //icq: 2575272

 

From douglasbecker at HOME.COM  Thu Jan 11 02:41:30 2001
From: douglasbecker at HOME.COM (Doug Becker)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 21:41:30 -0500
Subject: Restoring Groupwise User Archive
In-Reply-To: <sa5c69aa.067@FWFS2>
Message-ID: <NEBBJMHBKLOFPFKDPBLJMEAJCHAA.douglasbecker@home.com>

Run a check and fix on the user's archive.  You need to make sure that you
put it back where it was and that the client is still pointing to that
place.

-----Original Message-----
From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of
Chet Durnal
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 3:54 PM
To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Restoring Groupwise User Archive


A user's archive was deleted. I restored them from tape, but when I tell GW
to open the archive, it displays nothing. Help!

 

From willro at BEAUVELMICRO.COM  Thu Jan 11 04:47:24 2001
From: willro at BEAUVELMICRO.COM (William Ro)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 23:47:24 -0500
Subject: Single Server looses time
Message-ID: <LPBBJKMPPLPLEEEBCGBGMEKEDCAA.willro@beauvelmicro.com>

I have two separate installs of NW 5.1 SP2A (brand new installs) on CPQ
ML370 -
They are single servers with no access to an outside time source. Both
servers servers seem to loose about 15 minutes every 24 hours (i.e. the time
on server is 15 min late). I have spoken to CPQ about this thinking (at
least in for the first server) that it was a hardware problem - after
motherboard change, the server still looses time. CPQ says it is a Novell
problem. I have noticed that IDE drivers were pointed to as culprits - I
have removed them from one server however, I still seem to be loosing at
least a few minutes each day. Any suggestions??



Best Regards,



William Ro
Consultant

Beauvel-Micronsult Inc.
204 St-Sacrement, Suite 303
Montr?al, Qu?bec, H2Y 1W8
Tel: 514-840-1377 ext:23
Fax: 514-840-7192
mailto:willro at beauvelmicro.com

 

From brett.wheeler at DARAMALANC.ACT.EDU.AU  Thu Jan 11 05:53:06 2001
From: brett.wheeler at DARAMALANC.ACT.EDU.AU (Brett Wheeler)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 00:53:06 -0500
Subject: Info please
Message-ID: <026401c07b92$f0773600$770112ac@desktop>

Hi all,
Happy New Year!

We are adding a Solaris box to our Netware 5.1 network (with NDS for
Solaris). I have a few questions I hope you guys and gals can help me with.

1. To allow the Sun terminals to access MS applications will we need to add
an NT/2000 Terminal Server server to the network or will a normal NT/2000
server suffice?

2. Will we need Citrix Metaframe over the NT/2000 Terminal Server?

3. Is there any reasons to use NT4 Terminal Server instead of Win2000 with
Terminal Services?

4. Is there anything we should be installing/investigating/avoiding?

Any experiences/ideas/help would be greatly appreciated.


TIA   Brett Wheeler
Network Admin.

 

From vanBuuren at COH.FGG.EUR.NL  Thu Jan 11 07:10:24 2001
From: vanBuuren at COH.FGG.EUR.NL (Joop van Buuren)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 02:10:24 -0500
Subject: Net Publisher 2.0 Evaluation Install problem
Message-ID: <3A5D5C59.41231C6@coh.fgg.eur.nl>

L.S.

When installing the Net Publisher 2.0 Eval everything seems to go fine
until the last phase. The 'Net Publisher installation Advisor' then
starts the last part called 'create net Publisher system'. It then
automatically starts ConsoleOne. Nothing further happens. When I close
ConsoleOne I end up with a DOS-box (which tries to map something) with
the following error:
Error: Unable to read config file LDAP.CFG

Am I overlooking something.

Any info will be appreciated.

Joop

--
--------------------
Joop van Buuren
Network Administrator
Computer Support Hoboken
Erasmus University Rotterdam
Dr. Molewaterplein 50
3015 GE ROTTERDAM ,THE NETHERLANDS
TEL: +31 10 408 7416  FAX: +31 10 408 9500
Cellular: 0625338522
mailto:vanbuuren at coh.fgg.eur.nl or mailto:JoopvanBuuren at myrealbox.com
------------------------------------------------------------------------

     NDS prevents me from going MAD
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

From vanBuuren at COH.FGG.EUR.NL  Thu Jan 11 07:21:35 2001
From: vanBuuren at COH.FGG.EUR.NL (Joop van Buuren)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 02:21:35 -0500
Subject: blocking AIM & napster
References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010110161552.029fc1d8@mail.voyager.net>
Message-ID: <3A5D5EF9.49E341BA@coh.fgg.eur.nl>

What's next:
MSM, Wrapster, iMesh, Gnutella and so on. If you are looking for a way to
block students using this kind of programs let them use the NAL as shell and
create a policy that the only allowable program to run is NALWIN32.EXE. The
only problem now is that you have to create NAL-object for windows programs
the may use (e.g calc.exe, notepad.exe) This method is to be found at the
Coolsolutions Site somewhere.

HTH

Joop


rodent wrote:

> How can I block AOL Instant Messenger, and Napster from communicating
> outside our network to their respective servers?
>
> I know that AIM connects on a variety of IPs to a variety of port numbers,
> does anyone have a complete list? Here are a few:
>
> 205.188.7.168: 5190
> 205.188.7.176: 5190
> 205.188.7.164: 5190
> 205.188.7.172: 5190
>
> If you do autoconfigure in AIM, it will try other ports, but if I can at
> least block outgoing to any destination on 5190, then I know how to block
> the other ports for AIM.
>
> As for napster, it's all over the place. Does anyone have any advice? I
> hear it's pretty tough.
>
> 208.184.216.77.napster.com: 8888
> 208.184.216.38.napster.com: 8888
> n184.napster.com: 8888
> 208.184.216.33.napster.com: 8888
> n170.napster.com: 8888
>
> // rodent @ voyager net
>
> //www: http://chelsea.k12.mi.us/~rodent/
> //aim: r0dent
> //icq: 2575272

--
--------------------
Joop van Buuren
Network Administrator
Computer Support Hoboken
Erasmus University Rotterdam
Dr. Molewaterplein 50
3015 GE ROTTERDAM ,THE NETHERLANDS
TEL: +31 10 408 7416  FAX: +31 10 408 9500
Cellular: 0625338522
mailto:vanbuuren at coh.fgg.eur.nl or mailto:JoopvanBuuren at myrealbox.com
------------------------------------------------------------------------
     NDS prevents me from going MAD
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

From admin at IAA.GOV.IL  Thu Jan 11 07:40:46 2001
From: admin at IAA.GOV.IL (Mike Glassman - Admin)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 02:40:46 -0500
Subject: blocking AIM & napster
Message-ID: <7F4D39EF73659140A9DC38EB5FC875054869D5@hobit.IAADOM>

In order to block Napster, you need to block the following :

208.178.163.56/255.255.255.248 
208.178.175.128/255.255.255.248 
208.49.239.240/255.255.255.240 
208.49.228.0/255.255.255.0 
208.184.216.0/255.255.255.0 
64.124.41.0/255.255.255.0 

This works.

On the other hand, it is not possible to constantly block everything. There
are softwares around that use scanning ports (new icq. Odigo etc) that will
simply use another port if you block one, and since it's extremely hard to
find every network used, it's a never ending fight.

Joop's suggestion is a good one, as well as some sort of way of restoring
the system to a default setup after each reboot (Magic-Card, Ghost, etc).

Mike

> -----Original Message-----
> From: rodent [SMTP:rodent at VOYAGER.NET]
> Sent: ? ????? 10 2001 23:22
> To:   NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
> Subject:      blocking AIM & napster
> 
> How can I block AOL Instant Messenger, and Napster from communicating
> outside our network to their respective servers?
> 
> I know that AIM connects on a variety of IPs to a variety of port numbers,
> does anyone have a complete list? Here are a few:
> 
> 205.188.7.168: 5190
> 205.188.7.176: 5190
> 205.188.7.164: 5190
> 205.188.7.172: 5190
> 
> If you do autoconfigure in AIM, it will try other ports, but if I can at
> least block outgoing to any destination on 5190, then I know how to block
> the other ports for AIM.
> 
> As for napster, it's all over the place. Does anyone have any advice? I
> hear it's pretty tough.
> 
> 208.184.216.77.napster.com: 8888
> 208.184.216.38.napster.com: 8888
> n184.napster.com: 8888
> 208.184.216.33.napster.com: 8888
> n170.napster.com: 8888
> 
> 
> // rodent @ voyager net
> 
> //www: http://chelsea.k12.mi.us/~rodent/
> //aim: r0dent
> //icq: 2575272

 

From randy at INTER-CORPORATE.COM  Thu Jan 11 08:11:26 2001
From: randy at INTER-CORPORATE.COM (Randolf Richardson)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 03:11:26 -0500
Subject: Single Server looses time
In-Reply-To: <LPBBJKMPPLPLEEEBCGBGMEKEDCAA.willro@beauvelmicro.com>
Message-ID: <1ABB80D00BC@mail.inter-corporate.net>

        We've been implementing NTP to resolve this issue.  The problem
seems to have something to do with various motherboards and the way
Protected Mode handles time.

> I have two separate installs of NW 5.1 SP2A (brand new installs) on
> CPQ ML370 - They are single servers with no access to an outside
> time source. Both servers servers seem to loose about 15 minutes
> every 24 hours (i.e. the time on server is 15 min late). I have
> spoken to CPQ about this thinking (at least in for the first server)
> that it was a hardware problem - after motherboard change, the
> server still looses time. CPQ says it is a Novell problem. I have
> noticed that IDE drivers were pointed to as culprits - I have
> removed them from one server however, I still seem to be loosing at
> least a few minutes each day. Any suggestions??
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
>
> William Ro
> Consultant
>
> Beauvel-Micronsult Inc.
> 204 St-Sacrement, Suite 303
> Montr?al, Qu?bec, H2Y 1W8
> Tel: 514-840-1377 ext:23
> Fax: 514-840-7192
> mailto:willro at beauvelmicro.com

Randolf Richardson - randolf at inter-corporate.com
Inter-Corporate Computer & Network Services, Inc.
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
http://www.inter-corporate.com/

"Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives."

 

From randy at INTER-CORPORATE.COM  Thu Jan 11 08:11:30 2001
From: randy at INTER-CORPORATE.COM (Randolf Richardson)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 03:11:30 -0500
Subject: 4.10 was nicer
In-Reply-To: <Pine.WNT.4.30.0101100840090.1480-100000@herne>
References: <200101100756_MC2-C129-EEEA@compuserve.com>
Message-ID: <1AB39FB38D1@mail.inter-corporate.net>

> > I have a friend who is a consultant.  most customers are moving to NT I
> > hear..........
>
> And boy howdy, those NT Service packs haven't ever broken anything.
> And so easy to find out what they did to the box as well. Just like
> those old, trusty NW 4.10 patches.

        Microsoft has been making these noises for ages.  I think the
"consultant friend" is spending too much time in the marketing world,
and not enough time in the real world.

        There's also a problem with the entire argument of "everyone is
switching to Windows NT, so you should too" -- it's illogical (not to
mention dangerous) to make decisions this way.

        The correct way to decide which platform(s) to use is to evaluate
the strong and weak technical points of each product, and determine
which best suits the needs of each particular organization.  Someone
who wishes to learn only one platform is suffering from "tunnel
vision" and will most certainly lose out in the long run.

P.S.:   Good point about the "Microsoft Service Packs" in rebuttle to
the "Novell Support Packs" criticism.

> What does this have to do with the price of tea in China?

        Interesting you should mention China.  It seems that Microsoft has
been cracking down very heavily on software piracy there lately (or
at least trying to), and the folks I deal with in China on a regular
basis are telling me that Linux is becoming very popular as a result.

Randolf Richardson - randolf at inter-corporate.com
Inter-Corporate Computer & Network Services, Inc.
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
http://www.inter-corporate.com/

"Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives."

 

From admin at IAA.GOV.IL  Thu Jan 11 08:35:40 2001
From: admin at IAA.GOV.IL (Mike Glassman - Admin)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 03:35:40 -0500
Subject: 4.10 was nicer
Message-ID: <7F4D39EF73659140A9DC38EB5FC875054869D9@hobit.IAADOM>

And if we'r already on this issue.

I know of one very large corporation that left Novell for NT and lo and
behold....are now returning to Novell.

Seems that M$ made multiple promises regarding how much faster the system
would work, how many less problems there would be, and many hundreds of
thousands of $'s were spent on the change.

Turns out things didn't actually work as planned, and there were many M$
support folks here including from the states.

But what can you do, when it don't go, it don't go.

37 Netware servers -> 20 NT servers -> 20 Netware servers.

End issue :

M$ cost of clost to a mill and a half for total conversion including
software, databases, WS's etc.

Novell cost for return to operations - around 150k $'s.

Money wasted and money well spent.

And I'm once of those who think that you should go with what best suits your
needs, not necisarily one or the other.

But I am really glad about this one.

Mike

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Randolf Richardson [SMTP:randy at inter-corporate.com]
> Sent: ? ????? 11 2001 9:24
> To:   NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
> Subject:      Re: 4.10 was nicer
> 
> > > I have a friend who is a consultant.  most customers are moving to NT
> I
> > > hear..........
> >
> > And boy howdy, those NT Service packs haven't ever broken anything.
> > And so easy to find out what they did to the box as well. Just like
> > those old, trusty NW 4.10 patches.
> 
>         Microsoft has been making these noises for ages.  I think the
> "consultant friend" is spending too much time in the marketing world,
> and not enough time in the real world.
> 
>         There's also a problem with the entire argument of "everyone is
> switching to Windows NT, so you should too" -- it's illogical (not to
> mention dangerous) to make decisions this way.
> 
>         The correct way to decide which platform(s) to use is to evaluate
> the strong and weak technical points of each product, and determine
> which best suits the needs of each particular organization.  Someone
> who wishes to learn only one platform is suffering from "tunnel
> vision" and will most certainly lose out in the long run.
> 
> P.S.:   Good point about the "Microsoft Service Packs" in rebuttle to
> the "Novell Support Packs" criticism.
> 
> > What does this have to do with the price of tea in China?
> 
>         Interesting you should mention China.  It seems that Microsoft has
> been cracking down very heavily on software piracy there lately (or
> at least trying to), and the folks I deal with in China on a regular
> basis are telling me that Linux is becoming very popular as a result.
> 
> Randolf Richardson - randolf at inter-corporate.com
> Inter-Corporate Computer & Network Services, Inc.
> Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
> http://www.inter-corporate.com/
> 
> "Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives."

 

From Alar at MTK.UT.EE  Thu Jan 11 11:06:27 2001
From: Alar at MTK.UT.EE (Alar Pandis)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 06:06:27 -0500
Subject: CPU Hog Detected by Timer
Message-ID: <NBBBLEPANKOBBECLEKCIOEFNEOAA.Alar@mtk.ut.ee>

Hi again!

NW5.1 SP2a, enough disk and memory. CPU Hog Detected by Timer (part of abend
log is below; Thread Owned by NWFTPD.NLM). Before that server freezes for
some seconds. After abend first notice was that remote printers are
disconnected (needed restart services on NT).

Any suggestions? Hints? Experiences?

Thanks,
Alar.

Server INFUTIK halted Thursday, January 11, 2001  12:29:30 pm
Abend 1 on P00: Server-5.00j-957: CPU Hog Detected by Timer

Registers:
    CS = 0008 DS = 0010 ES = 0010 FS = 0010 GS = 0010 SS = 0010
    EAX = FCE0E615 EBX = B923869C ECX = B923869C EDX = B9238653
    ESI = B92386A4 EDI = 00000001 EBP = B6AD9218 ESP = B6AD91F8
    EIP = 00000000 FLAGS = 00004012


Running process: Nwftpd        299 Process
Created by: NetWare Application
Thread Owned by NLM: NWFTPD.NLM
Stack pointer: B6AD9FCC
OS Stack limit: B6AD2FC0
Scheduling priority: 67371008
Wait state: 3030070  (Yielded CPU)
Stack: --FCE0E615  ?
       C2A57AA0  ?
        ...
       -D1F48A01  (LOCNLM32.NLM|(Data Start)+A01)
       --B6AD9200  ?
       D1F44D00  (LOCNLM32.NLM|NWUXUnicodeToUntermBytePath+1C0)
        ...
       D318BDDA  (THREADS.NLM|_DestroyCallBackBlock+24E)
        ...
       D318A591  (THREADS.NLM|__CHK+21)
        ...
       D12A52FA  (LFS.NLM|ProcessFileSystemMonitor+1A)
        ...
       D12A6557  (LFS.NLM|F3OpenCreate+47)
       --00000004  ?
       D1ECF23A  (NCP.NLM|Case87+E02)
        ...

------------------------------------------------------
Alar Pandis
Computer Systems Operator
Faculty of Economics and Business Administration
Tartu University, Narva 4-B303, 51009
Tartu, ESTONIA
tel +372 7 376 316, fax +372 7 376 312
e-mail Alar at mtk.ut.ee
------------------------------------------------------

 

From BROWNR at LDCORP.COM  Thu Jan 11 13:43:41 2001
From: BROWNR at LDCORP.COM (BROWNR)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 08:43:41 -0500
Subject: Single server loses time
Message-ID: <000B557E.C21235@ldcorp.com>

I know this has been covered before on this discussion but what options are
available for an organization that only has one server and no dedicated link to
the internet?  I have an office that I remotely administer that is in this
situation.  The time drifts on their server.  I just go in over RCONSOLE and set
it once a week.  In a week it will drift about half an hour.  Is there a cheapo
way I could remedy this?

Thanks,

Robert Brown
MIS Coordinator
Louis Dreyfus Corporation
208 South Main Street
New Madrid, MO  63869
p: 573-748-9371
f:  573-748-9386

 

From tmounta at HCSD.SCCOAST.NET  Thu Jan 11 14:03:51 2001
From: tmounta at HCSD.SCCOAST.NET (Thom Mountain)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 09:03:51 -0500
Subject: blocking AIM & napster
Message-ID: <3A5D7DD8.10271.A33EF19@localhost>

Napster needs port 8875 to login so blocking this port in both TCP
and UPD has worked for me.  I don't run BorderManager but
blocking those ports at our edge router has worked for me.

Thom

Thom Mountain
Horry County Schools

tmounta at hcsd.sccoast.net

 

From jaybee at DFN.COM  Thu Jan 11 14:21:14 2001
From: jaybee at DFN.COM (Jerry Bates)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 09:21:14 -0500
Subject: Single Server looses time
Message-ID: <NOVELL%2001011109211430@LSV.SYR.EDU>

I had a similiar experience with a single server losing time after the
install of SP3A for NW5.0. I was instructed to change out the battery, then
upgraded the bios and also ended up changing out the mother board. After all
that I still had the same problem. We ended up per Novell's advice back
leveling the timesync module to the a module that was a year old.
I recently upgraded to Sp5 and had the same problem all over again, I once
again backleveled timesync, uncommented the time reference statements in
the autoexec.ncf and all is back to normal.  You might check Novell's
knownledge database for a similiar problem with NW5.1.

 

From ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU  Thu Jan 11 14:50:39 2001
From: ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU (Joe Acquisto)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 09:50:39 -0500
Subject: edir85 on Linux
Message-ID: <sa5d7ccb.004@lan.newpaltz.edu>

The NDS config/install is decidedly short on troubleshooting hints.

Trying to install to an existing tree, I get to the point where I am
trying to install/config NDS on the Linux box ("ndscfg -install").  I
enter the password for the existing tree's admin, it responds "starting
the service 'ndsd' . . . Done",
then, after a bit, says "the server has not successfully started".

The existing tree's only replica is up and the tree can be seen via slp
on the subject Linux box.

What am I supposed to make of this?  Most likely I have not correctly
entered the admin and/or server context in the config script (?).  But
it can be tedious to try all sorts of combinations, especially when this
may not be the issue at all.

Has someone been down this road before?

Red Hat 6.2 installed, edir 85 installed. (all packages).

-----------------------------------------
Joe Acquisto
SUNY New Paltz
845-257-3134 (V)
845-257-6900 (F)
-----------------------------------------

 

From tim.clarke at MANIFEST.CO.UK  Thu Jan 11 15:06:58 2001
From: tim.clarke at MANIFEST.CO.UK (Tim Clarke)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 10:06:58 -0500
Subject: edir85 on Linux
In-Reply-To: <sa5d7ccb.004@lan.newpaltz.edu>
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010111150308.00a7f9e8@man3>

Joe, Linux is normally brill on tracing what's happened (if Novell are
playing by the rules); is there a log being written somewhere that will
tell you exactly what's going on? Try your install again and then use "find
/ -mmin -X".  This will search from the root down for files modified within
the last X minutes.

At 09:28 11/01/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>The NDS config/install is decidedly short on troubleshooting hints.
>
>Trying to install to an existing tree, I get to the point where I am
>trying to install/config NDS on the Linux box ("ndscfg -install").  I
>enter the password for the existing tree's admin, it responds "starting
>the service 'ndsd' . . . Done",
>then, after a bit, says "the server has not successfully started".
>
>The existing tree's only replica is up and the tree can be seen via slp
>on the subject Linux box.
>
>What am I supposed to make of this?  Most likely I have not correctly
>entered the admin and/or server context in the config script (?).  But
>it can be tedious to try all sorts of combinations, especially when this
>may not be the issue at all.
>
>Has someone been down this road before?
>
>Red Hat 6.2 installed, edir 85 installed. (all packages).
>
>-----------------------------------------
>Joe Acquisto
>SUNY New Paltz
>845-257-3134 (V)
>845-257-6900 (F)
>-----------------------------------------

Tim Clarke AMBCS MIAP, IT Director, The Manifest Voting Agency Ltd
Phone:  +44 1 376 503500
Fax:            +44 1 376 503550
Email:          tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk <mailto:tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk>

THIS EMAIL MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL OR LEGALLY PRIVILEGED INFORMATION.  IF
YOU ARE NOT THE NAMED ADDRESSEE YOU MUST NOT USE OR DISCLOSE SUCH INFORMATION

 

From lindblom at MICO.COM  Thu Jan 11 15:15:57 2001
From: lindblom at MICO.COM (lindblom at MICO.COM)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 10:15:57 -0500
Subject: 4.10 was nicer
Message-ID: <862569D1.0053E3A9.00@mico.com>



It would be nice to see stuff like this hit the media. Novell marketing should
run as fast as they can with information like this, if more people were aware of
these migration nightmares they may think twice before even considering such a
move.

John Lindblom, CNE 4/5
MICO, Inc.
N.Mankato, MN



From: Mike Glassman - Admin <admin at IAA.GOV.IL> on 01/11/2001 02:22 AM

Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU>

To:   NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
cc:    (bcc: John Lindblom/MICO)

Subject:  Re: 4.10 was nicer


And if we'r already on this issue.

I know of one very large corporation that left Novell for NT and lo and
behold....are now returning to Novell.

Seems that M$ made multiple promises regarding how much faster the system
would work, how many less problems there would be, and many hundreds of
thousands of $'s were spent on the change.

Turns out things didn't actually work as planned, and there were many M$
support folks here including from the states.

But what can you do, when it don't go, it don't go.

37 Netware servers -> 20 NT servers -> 20 Netware servers.

End issue :

M$ cost of clost to a mill and a half for total conversion including
software, databases, WS's etc.

Novell cost for return to operations - around 150k $'s.

Money wasted and money well spent.

And I'm once of those who think that you should go with what best suits your
needs, not necisarily one or the other.

But I am really glad about this one.

Mike

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Randolf Richardson [SMTP:randy at inter-corporate.com]
> Sent:
-------------- next part --------------

? ????? 11 2001 9:24
> To:   NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
> Subject:      Re: 4.10 was nicer
>
> > > I have a friend who is a consultant.  most customers are moving to NT
> I
> > > hear..........
> >
> > And boy howdy, those NT Service packs haven't ever broken anything.
> > And so easy to find out what they did to the box as well. Just like
> > those old, trusty NW 4.10 patches.
>
>         Microsoft has been making these noises for ages.  I think the
> "consultant friend" is spending too much time in the marketing world,
> and not enough time in the real world.
>
>         There's also a problem with the entire argument of "everyone is
> switching to Windows NT, so you should too" -- it's illogical (not to
> mention dangerous) to make decisions this way.
>
>         The correct way to decide which platform(s) to use is to evaluate
> the strong and weak technical points of each product, and determine
> which best suits the needs of each particular organization.  Someone
> who wishes to learn only one platform is suffering from "tunnel
> vision" and will most certainly lose out in the long run.
>
> P.S.:   Good point about the "Microsoft Service Packs" in rebuttle to
> the "Novell Support Packs" criticism.
>
> > What does this have to do with the price of tea in China?
>
>         Interesting you should mention China.  It seems that Microsoft has
> been cracking down very heavily on software piracy there lately (or
> at least trying to), and the folks I deal with in China on a regular
> basis are telling me that Linux is becoming very popular as a result.
>
> Randolf Richardson - randolf at inter-corporate.com
> Inter-Corporate Computer & Network Services, Inc.
> Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
> http://www.inter-corporate.com/
>
> "Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives."





From thowell at TDMN.COM  Thu Jan 11 15:16:21 2001
From: thowell at TDMN.COM (Howell, Tommy)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 10:16:21 -0500
Subject: AIM & Napster
Message-ID: <5BA8DB8D54C4D3119956009027DE50C60EA027@tdmnmail.tdmn.belo.com>

TotalRC has a product called "Socks2HTTP" that likely get around some of
your attempts to block AIM & napster, particularly port-based blocks.
http://www.totalrc.com/s2h/index.html You might need to consider this as
well.

Meanwhile, visit Napigator, http://www.napigator.com/list.php for a very
complete list of Nap servers, including OpenNap and other Nap networks.

 

From JRD at CC.USU.EDU  Thu Jan 11 15:26:18 2001
From: JRD at CC.USU.EDU (Joe Doupnik)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 10:26:18 -0500
Subject: 4.10 was nicer
Message-ID: <01JYRW2Y4S3M94GHMK@cc.usu.edu>

>It would be nice to see stuff like this hit the media. Novell marketing should
>run as fast as they can with information like this, if more people were aware of
>these migration nightmares they may think twice before even considering such a
>move.
>
>John Lindblom, CNE 4/5
>MICO, Inc.
>N.Mankato, MN
--------
        Novell has played the tune for years, in their marketing white papers
and in various public presentations. The place to kick up a fuss is in the
offices of the various media, rather than with the product vendors.
        Joe D.

 

From admin at IAA.GOV.IL  Thu Jan 11 15:29:02 2001
From: admin at IAA.GOV.IL (Mike Glassman - Admin)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 10:29:02 -0500
Subject: 4.10 was nicer
Message-ID: <7F4D39EF73659140A9DC38EB5FC875054869E1@hobit.IAADOM>

In this case there isn't a chance that the company in question will allow
the issue of their making such a costly mistake become public knowledge.

So even tho Novell here are well aware of the whole issue, it is being kept
very hush hush.

Mike

> -----Original Message-----
> From: lindblom at MICO.COM [SMTP:lindblom at MICO.COM]
> Sent: ? ????? 11 2001 17:16
> To:   NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
> Subject:      Re: 4.10 was nicer
> 
> 
> 
> It would be nice to see stuff like this hit the media. Novell marketing
> should
> run as fast as they can with information like this, if more people were
> aware of
> these migration nightmares they may think twice before even considering
> such a
> move.
> 
> John Lindblom, CNE 4/5
> MICO, Inc.
> N.Mankato, MN
> 
> 
> 
> From: Mike Glassman - Admin <admin at IAA.GOV.IL> on 01/11/2001 02:22 AM
> 
> Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU>
> 
> To:   NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
> cc:    (bcc: John Lindblom/MICO)
> 
> Subject:  Re: 4.10 was nicer
> 
> 
> And if we'r already on this issue.
> 
> I know of one very large corporation that left Novell for NT and lo and
> behold....are now returning to Novell.
> 
> Seems that M$ made multiple promises regarding how much faster the system
> would work, how many less problems there would be, and many hundreds of
> thousands of $'s were spent on the change.
> 
> Turns out things didn't actually work as planned, and there were many M$
> support folks here including from the states.
> 
> But what can you do, when it don't go, it don't go.
> 
> 37 Netware servers -> 20 NT servers -> 20 Netware servers.
> 
> End issue :
> 
> M$ cost of clost to a mill and a half for total conversion including
> software, databases, WS's etc.
> 
> Novell cost for return to operations - around 150k $'s.
> 
> Money wasted and money well spent.
> 
> And I'm once of those who think that you should go with what best suits
> your
> needs, not necisarily one or the other.
> 
> But I am really glad about this one.
> 
> Mike
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Randolf Richardson [SMTP:randy at inter-corporate.com]
> > Sent: << File: ATT06614.txt >> 

 

From tim.clarke at MANIFEST.CO.UK  Thu Jan 11 15:37:16 2001
From: tim.clarke at MANIFEST.CO.UK (Tim Clarke)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 10:37:16 -0500
Subject: blocking AIM & napster
In-Reply-To: <3A5D7DD8.10271.A33EF19@localhost>
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010111153323.00ac7830@man3>

People, isn't a better rule to block all ports and then open those that are
actually needed?

At 09:03 11/01/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>Napster needs port 8875 to login so blocking this port in both TCP
>and UPD has worked for me.  I don't run BorderManager but
>blocking those ports at our edge router has worked for me.
>
>Thom
>
>Thom Mountain
>Horry County Schools
>
>tmounta at hcsd.sccoast.net

Tim Clarke AMBCS MIAP, IT Director, The Manifest Voting Agency Ltd
Phone:  +44 1 376 503500
Fax:            +44 1 376 503550
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From JRD at CC.USU.EDU  Thu Jan 11 15:52:32 2001
From: JRD at CC.USU.EDU (Joe Doupnik)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 10:52:32 -0500
Subject: blocking AIM & napster
Message-ID: <01JYRWWFRU4294GBUQ@cc.usu.edu>

>People, isn't a better rule to block all ports and then open those that are
>actually needed?
>
>At 09:03 11/01/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>>Napster needs port 8875 to login so blocking this port in both TCP
>>and UPD has worked for me.  I don't run BorderManager but
>>blocking those ports at our edge router has worked for me.
>>
>>Thom
-------
        Blocking ports is a start, but not a cure. Recall, the direction
in which a connection is started also counts for a lot, and the trusted
interior station can initiate an unwanted outgoing connection. Think of
passive mode for ftp work. The kiddy toys have been designed to work
around these simple attempts at blocking things.
        So far as I am aware, only NAT stands a chance of making a dent
in unwanted traffic, and it too is readily subverted by either unwanted
outgoing connections or folks multiplexing unwanted traffic on an existing
connection (a remote host is a collecting/dispersing agent). Port 80 is
a convenient pathway for such multiplexed traffic. So force an HTTP proxy
into that pathway.
        In the end you have to nail the people and machines individually.
Such has been the case at my place.
        Joe D.

 

From kdlrn at KENTLIBRARY.LIB.MI.US  Thu Jan 11 17:15:36 2001
From: kdlrn at KENTLIBRARY.LIB.MI.US (Rich Nagel)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 12:15:36 -0500
Subject: blocking AIM & napster
In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010111153323.00ac7830@man3>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.02.10101111213220.15732-100000@kdl.kentlibrary.lib.mi.us>

Off-list I suggested just adding the key Napster and AIM files to the
network anti-virus scanner; if the scanner can be configured to report on
and/or remove any offending software that if finds, then who cares what
ports the programs are using.


Richard J. Nagel                   "Opinions stated are personal, and
Network Support Specialist          do not reflect official library
Kent District Library+              policy or statements."
kdlrn at kentlibrary.lib.mi.us
---
"NetWare: The hard working network software; it never feels blue,
          and it doesn't need an office with windows."





On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, Tim Clarke wrote:

> People, isn't a better rule to block all ports and then open those that are
> actually needed?
>
> At 09:03 11/01/2001 -0500, you wrote:
> >Napster needs port 8875 to login so blocking this port in both TCP
> >and UPD has worked for me.  I don't run BorderManager but
> >blocking those ports at our edge router has worked for me.
> >
> >Thom
> >
> >Thom Mountain
> >Horry County Schools
> >
> >tmounta at hcsd.sccoast.net
>
> Tim Clarke AMBCS MIAP, IT Director, The Manifest Voting Agency Ltd
> Phone:  +44 1 376 503500
> Fax:            +44 1 376 503550
> Email:          tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk <mailto:tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk>
>
> THIS EMAIL MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL OR LEGALLY PRIVILEGED INFORMATION.  IF
> YOU ARE NOT THE NAMED ADDRESSEE YOU MUST NOT USE OR DISCLOSE SUCH INFORMATION
>

 

From ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU  Thu Jan 11 17:23:33 2001
From: ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU (Joe Acquisto)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 12:23:33 -0500
Subject: edir85 on Linux
Message-ID: <sa5da5b9.014@lan.newpaltz.edu>

I have not found this log, if it exists.  Using nwadmin on the test
tree, I can see that there are no "intruder" attempts logged for admin.
This implies the install program does not have the proper info, or
cannot contact the tree/context.  Oddly, console 1, on the NW5 server
cannot see any NDS trees.  It could when I first installed it.

On the Linux issue, oops?,  Is it possible that I cannot use the 56 bit
eval license to do this deed into a 128bit MLA licensed test tree?
Nuts.

And what is "normally brill" anyway.?

joea/

>>> Tim Clarke <tim.clarke at MANIFEST.CO.UK> 01/11/01 10:05AM >>>
Joe, Linux is normally brill on tracing what's happened (if Novell are
playing by the rules); is there a log being written somewhere that
will
tell you exactly what's going on? Try your install again and then use
"find
/ -mmin -X".  This will search from the root down for files modified
within
the last X minutes.

At 09:28 11/01/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>The NDS config/install is decidedly short on troubleshooting hints.
>
>Trying to install to an existing tree, I get to the point where I am
>trying to install/config NDS on the Linux box ("ndscfg -install").  I
>enter the password for the existing tree's admin, it responds
"starting
>the service 'ndsd' . . . Done",
>then, after a bit, says "the server has not successfully started".
>
>The existing tree's only replica is up and the tree can be seen via
slp
>on the subject Linux box.
>
>What am I supposed to make of this?  Most likely I have not correctly
>entered the admin and/or server context in the config script (?).
But
>it can be tedious to try all sorts of combinations, especially when
this
>may not be the issue at all.
>
>Has someone been down this road before?
>
>Red Hat 6.2 installed, edir 85 installed. (all packages).
>
>-----------------------------------------
>Joe Acquisto
>SUNY New Paltz
>845-257-3134 (V)
>845-257-6900 (F)
>-----------------------------------------

Tim Clarke AMBCS MIAP, IT Director, The Manifest Voting Agency Ltd
Phone:  +44 1 376 503500
Fax:            +44 1 376 503550
Email:          tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk
<mailto:tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk>

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From MHGlenn at CCO.STATE.OH.US  Thu Jan 11 17:26:58 2001
From: MHGlenn at CCO.STATE.OH.US (Michael Glenn)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 12:26:58 -0500
Subject: blocking AIM & napster
Message-ID: <sa5da695.086@post.cco.state.oh.us>

This can be done with ZENworks, as well. I have a few force-run apps that trigger on the presence of certain files, and deletes them. If the luser reinstalls, the ZEN app triggers again, and the installation gets deleted again.
:)

Regards;
         --------->Michael.
MCNE, BOFH

"Quoth the End User with a sneer and a taunt;
''Tis just what we asked for,
  but not what we want!'"


>>> kdlrn at KENTLIBRARY.LIB.MI.US 01/11/01 12:15PM >>>
Off-list I suggested just adding the key Napster and AIM files to the
network anti-virus scanner; if the scanner can be configured to report on
and/or remove any offending software that if finds, then who cares what
ports the programs are using.


Richard J. Nagel                   "Opinions stated are personal, and
Network Support Specialist          do not reflect official library
Kent District Library+              policy or statements."
kdlrn at kentlibrary.lib.mi.us 
---
"NetWare: The hard working network software; it never feels blue,
          and it doesn't need an office with windows."





On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, Tim Clarke wrote:

> People, isn't a better rule to block all ports and then open those that are
> actually needed?
>
> At 09:03 11/01/2001 -0500, you wrote:
> >Napster needs port 8875 to login so blocking this port in both TCP
> >and UPD has worked for me.  I don't run BorderManager but
> >blocking those ports at our edge router has worked for me.
> >
> >Thom
> >
> >Thom Mountain
> >Horry County Schools
> >
> >tmounta at hcsd.sccoast.net 
>
> Tim Clarke AMBCS MIAP, IT Director, The Manifest Voting Agency Ltd
> Phone:  +44 1 376 503500
> Fax:            +44 1 376 503550
> Email:          tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk <mailto:tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk>
>
> THIS EMAIL MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL OR LEGALLY PRIVILEGED INFORMATION.  IF
> YOU ARE NOT THE NAMED ADDRESSEE YOU MUST NOT USE OR DISCLOSE SUCH INFORMATION
>

 

From bvolpone at LUTHERCARE.ORG  Thu Jan 11 17:31:02 2001
From: bvolpone at LUTHERCARE.ORG (Brian Volpone)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 12:31:02 -0500
Subject: blocking AIM & napster
Message-ID: <sa5da80c.000@luthercare>

What if the user reinstalls into a non-default directory? Does it still
work?

>>> Michael Glenn <MHGlenn at CCO.STATE.OH.US> 01/11/01 12:26PM >>>
This can be done with ZENworks, as well. I have a few force-run apps
that trigger on the presence of certain files, and deletes them. If the
luser reinstalls, the ZEN app triggers again, and the installation gets
deleted again.
:)

Regards;
         --------->Michael.
MCNE, BOFH

"Quoth the End User with a sneer and a taunt;
''Tis just what we asked for,
  but not what we want!'"


>>> kdlrn at KENTLIBRARY.LIB.MI.US 01/11/01 12:15PM >>>
Off-list I suggested just adding the key Napster and AIM files to the
network anti-virus scanner; if the scanner can be configured to report
on
and/or remove any offending software that if finds, then who cares
what
ports the programs are using.


Richard J. Nagel                   "Opinions stated are personal, and
Network Support Specialist          do not reflect official library
Kent District Library+              policy or statements."
kdlrn at kentlibrary.lib.mi.us
---
"NetWare: The hard working network software; it never feels blue,
          and it doesn't need an office with windows."





On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, Tim Clarke wrote:

> People, isn't a better rule to block all ports and then open those
that are
> actually needed?
>
> At 09:03 11/01/2001 -0500, you wrote:
> >Napster needs port 8875 to login so blocking this port in both TCP
> >and UPD has worked for me.  I don't run BorderManager but
> >blocking those ports at our edge router has worked for me.
> >
> >Thom
> >
> >Thom Mountain
> >Horry County Schools
> >
> >tmounta at hcsd.sccoast.net
>
> Tim Clarke AMBCS MIAP, IT Director, The Manifest Voting Agency Ltd
> Phone:  +44 1 376 503500
> Fax:            +44 1 376 503550
> Email:          tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk
<mailto:tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk>
>
> THIS EMAIL MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL OR LEGALLY PRIVILEGED
INFORMATION.  IF
> YOU ARE NOT THE NAMED ADDRESSEE YOU MUST NOT USE OR DISCLOSE SUCH
INFORMATION
>

 

From SEtienne at RMINET.COM  Thu Jan 11 19:08:36 2001
From: SEtienne at RMINET.COM (Scott Etienne)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 14:08:36 -0500
Subject: NW51SP2A Pulled?
Message-ID: <sa5db052.036@rminet.com>

I went to Support Conenctions in search of NW51SP2A, and found that it is not available. Does anyone have any info or ideas about this?

Scott Etienne, MCNE
Sr. Network Engineer
RMI Network Services
SEtienne at RMINet.Com

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From mrmeyer2 at MADISON.TEC.WI.US  Thu Jan 11 19:43:00 2001
From: mrmeyer2 at MADISON.TEC.WI.US (Mike Meyer)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 14:43:00 -0500
Subject: blocking AIM & napster
Message-ID: <sa5db84a.050@mail>

I have a vbscript that will do an unintstall of napster.  It may need to be tweaked but should work for you.  I can post if if there is interest.

Mike

>>> bvolpone at LUTHERCARE.ORG 01/11/01 11:31 AM >>>
What if the user reinstalls into a non-default directory? Does it still
work?

>>> Michael Glenn <MHGlenn at CCO.STATE.OH.US> 01/11/01 12:26PM >>>
This can be done with ZENworks, as well. I have a few force-run apps
that trigger on the presence of certain files, and deletes them. If the
luser reinstalls, the ZEN app triggers again, and the installation gets
deleted again.
:)

Regards;
         --------->Michael.
MCNE, BOFH

"Quoth the End User with a sneer and a taunt;
''Tis just what we asked for,
  but not what we want!'"


>>> kdlrn at KENTLIBRARY.LIB.MI.US 01/11/01 12:15PM >>>
Off-list I suggested just adding the key Napster and AIM files to the
network anti-virus scanner; if the scanner can be configured to report
on
and/or remove any offending software that if finds, then who cares
what
ports the programs are using.


Richard J. Nagel                   "Opinions stated are personal, and
Network Support Specialist          do not reflect official library
Kent District Library+              policy or statements."
kdlrn at kentlibrary.lib.mi.us
---
"NetWare: The hard working network software; it never feels blue,
          and it doesn't need an office with windows."





On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, Tim Clarke wrote:

> People, isn't a better rule to block all ports and then open those
that are
> actually needed?
>
> At 09:03 11/01/2001 -0500, you wrote:
> >Napster needs port 8875 to login so blocking this port in both TCP
> >and UPD has worked for me.  I don't run BorderManager but
> >blocking those ports at our edge router has worked for me.
> >
> >Thom
> >
> >Thom Mountain
> >Horry County Schools
> >
> >tmounta at hcsd.sccoast.net
>
> Tim Clarke AMBCS MIAP, IT Director, The Manifest Voting Agency Ltd
> Phone:  +44 1 376 503500
> Fax:            +44 1 376 503550
> Email:          tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk
<mailto:tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk>
>
> THIS EMAIL MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL OR LEGALLY PRIVILEGED
INFORMATION.  IF
> YOU ARE NOT THE NAMED ADDRESSEE YOU MUST NOT USE OR DISCLOSE SUCH
INFORMATION
>

 

From mike.henderson at CLEAR.NET.NZ  Thu Jan 11 19:52:03 2001
From: mike.henderson at CLEAR.NET.NZ (Mike Henderson)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 14:52:03 -0500
Subject: Single server loses time
In-Reply-To: <000B557E.C21235@ldcorp.com>
Message-ID: <NDBBJLACEKNOODBNNNIKEEJPDAAA.mike.henderson@clear.net.nz>

Robert,
If Novell can't / won't fix the problem, then you need some sort
of external time reference.  This could be connected to any PC
running NTP server software - you can get versions for MS O/Ses
or use BSD / Linux.  An old P75 system would be heaps adequate.
External time reference sources include GPS-based (not cheap, say
~$US1000 I think) or most places have a dial-up service that need
only a modem (1200bps will do!) and a phone port, but will maybe
charge per call on the phone bill.  Or you can get 'real' clock
cards for the PC which will keep good time.  If you look in the
header of the configuration file for the NTP software you choose,
you'll usually find lots of comments about supported clock sources.

HTH

Mike

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Novell LAN Interest Group
> [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of
> BROWNR
> Sent: Friday, 12 January 2001 01:42
> To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
> Subject: Re: Single server loses time
>
>
> I know this has been covered before on this discussion but
> what options are
> available for an organization that only has one server and
> no dedicated link to
> the internet?  I have an office that I remotely administer
> that is in this
> situation.  The time drifts on their server.  I just go in
> over RCONSOLE and set
> it once a week.  In a week it will drift about half an
> hour.  Is there a cheapo
> way I could remedy this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Robert Brown
> MIS Coordinator
> Louis Dreyfus Corporation
> 208 South Main Street
> New Madrid, MO  63869
> p: 573-748-9371
> f:  573-748-9386
>

 

From Mark.Puchalski at COUZENS.COM  Thu Jan 11 19:58:01 2001
From: Mark.Puchalski at COUZENS.COM (Mark Puchalski)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 14:58:01 -0500
Subject: NW51SP2A Pulled?
Message-ID: <sa5dc9cf.096@xjp.couzens.com>

Well, this came about 6 days too late for me.  SP2a made my 5.1 server very unstable (2 abends on Monday and one on Tuesday).  Had to backrev to SP1 on Tuesday.

>>> SEtienne at RMINET.COM 1/11/2001 2:07:54 PM >>>
I went to Support Conenctions in search of NW51SP2A, and found that it is not available. Does anyone have any info or ideas about this?

Scott Etienne, MCNE
Sr. Network Engineer
RMI Network Services
SEtienne at RMINet.Com 



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From llutz at METROPO.MCCNEB.EDU  Thu Jan 11 20:29:17 2001
From: llutz at METROPO.MCCNEB.EDU (Lutz, Linda)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 15:29:17 -0500
Subject: How to Merge NDS8 Trees?
Message-ID: <2DFBFA1CCDF5D31196D800508B8BDDFE08A17A@mccmail4.mccneb.edu>

According to TID 10011011, DSMERGE is not supported on the NDS version 8.x
platform at this time.  Will it be supported in the near future?
How can I merge two Trees each containing one server only and both servers
running NW5.1, with support pack 5.1.1, and DS.NLM version 8.51?

 

From bsbolme at CARDIAC.CREIGHTON.EDU  Thu Jan 11 20:29:58 2001
From: bsbolme at CARDIAC.CREIGHTON.EDU (Bill Bolmeier)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 15:29:58 -0500
Subject: SPLDA Connections
Message-ID: <NDBBJGGOCKHBINGMFFFNMEEECNAA.bsbolme@cardiac.creighton.edu>

Hi,

I'm running Netware 5.1 and have tested the SLPDA connection from home to my
server at work.  So I'm logging in from home over the internet and it runs
the login script and I can run programs from my servers just fine.  Is there
any part of this that is secure.  Is there something build in Netware 5.1
that I can utilize to encrypt the connection, or do I need BorderManager or
some other firewall software?

Thanks,
Bill

 

From Philip.Dohnanyi at WPGINVEST.COM  Thu Jan 11 20:47:23 2001
From: Philip.Dohnanyi at WPGINVEST.COM (Philip.Dohnanyi at WPGINVEST.COM)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 15:47:23 -0500
Subject: How to Merge NDS8 Trees?
Message-ID: <852569D1.0071FD3A.00@nylnmta.wpginvest.com>

Check TID 10023661 for your options.

- Phil D.
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According to TID 10011011, DSMERGE is not supported on the NDS version 8.x
platform at this time. ?Will it be supported in the near future?
How can I merge two Trees each containing one server only and both servers
running NW5.1, with support pack 5.1.1, and DS.NLM version 8.51?



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From PCatelinet at CGSH.COM  Thu Jan 11 21:33:14 2001
From: PCatelinet at CGSH.COM (Phil Catelinet)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:33:14 -0500
Subject: weird problem: My Computer causes Explorer restart?
Message-ID: <OFD44D7E9B.49AF1B0C-ON852569D1.0075C5F7@cgsh.com>

Our Tokyo office, due to be rolled out with Windows 2000 and NetWare 5.1
next week, has the following unusual problem:

When a user logs in and maps drives from the login script, then
double-clicks on My Computer, Explorer (aka the entire desktop or "shell")
closes and restarts.  I can reproduce this here in New York by logging in
as a Tokyo user, so it's not their PCs.  You can't run Explorer at all to
look at the drives without the desktop reinitializing.  The really weird
part is that if you REM out one drive mapping in the login script, then
login as a user, the problem goes away.  Also, if you manually map a drive
to the errant volume, the problem doesn't happen.  Only if you let the
login script map it do we see this issue.  I've already worked on fixing
the volume and AFAIK it's OK.  We had this problem in our London office in
September and someone over there fixed it.  I sent them a message but they
won't get it for a few more hours.  I'm hoping someone here has a similar
setup and might know what's going on.  We're using the 4.71 client at the
desktop.

Thanks,
Phil


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From arthur-b at ZEELANDNET.NL  Thu Jan 11 22:17:44 2001
From: arthur-b at ZEELANDNET.NL (Arthur B.)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 17:17:44 -0500
Subject: wm95sast
References: <NOVELL%2001010814211003@LSV.SYR.EDU>
Message-ID: <3A5E2FF5.7F9C6E84@zeelandnet.nl>

Beverly Berard wrote:
>
> Has anyone found a cure for the login process hanging on
> WM95SAST.EXE after upgrading to zenworks2?


I'm currently at a site where the same problem is happening. There seems
to be a right issue with the WM:Workstation attribute of each and every
User Object. The rights for that attribute should be Read, Compare and
Write. See TID's: 10051104, 2953371, 2954243, 2927376, 10054781 and
10057791.

What also doesn't help is having apps installed at the workstations that
present a splash screen during boot-up. Also, make sure that each
workstation is registered with an unique Workstation ID. And, ofcourse,
that all involved software is up-to-date and NDS itself is error free.

** Arthur B.
** arthur-b at zeelandnet.nl
** http://people.zeelandnet.nl/arthur-b

 

From acquistj at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU  Fri Jan 12 03:02:36 2001
From: acquistj at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU (Joe Acquisto)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 22:02:36 -0500
Subject: wm95sast
Message-ID: <sa5e2d46.043@lan.newpaltz.edu>

Are these stations connecting at 100 FD, by chance?

I just had odd  problems with ZEN/NAL on some stations that had
slipped into FD.  These were the helpfull 3com NICs.  Setting the
switch to HD, and rebooting the PC seems to have cleared up
several PC mysteries.

I think the NW client, especially with ZEN/NAL, does not do well
in with some NICS in FD mode.

joea/

>>> "Arthur B." <arthur-b at ZEELANDNET.NL> 01/11/01 17:18 PM >>>
Beverly Berard wrote:
>
> Has anyone found a cure for the login process hanging on
> WM95SAST.EXE after upgrading to zenworks2?


I'm currently at a site where the same problem is happening. There seems
to be a right issue with the WM:Workstation attribute of each and every
User Object. The rights for that attribute should be Read, Compare and
Write. See TID's: 10051104, 2953371, 2954243, 2927376, 10054781 and
10057791.

What also doesn't help is having apps installed at the workstations that
present a splash screen during boot-up. Also, make sure that each
workstation is registered with an unique Workstation ID. And, ofcourse,
that all involved software is up-to-date and NDS itself is error free.

** Arthur B.
** arthur-b at zeelandnet.nl
** http://people.zeelandnet.nl/arthur-b

 

From rfoszcz at MC.NET  Fri Jan 12 03:50:05 2001
From: rfoszcz at MC.NET (Russell Foszcz)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 22:50:05 -0500
Subject: Can't find source of this error...
Message-ID: <3A5E7F40.E7A41093@mc.net>

Does anyone on the list happen to know what the source of this warning message
is (and subsequently how I'd fix it)?  It's being generated on a newly installed
NW 5.1 Server w/SP1 installed...

 1-09-2001  10:50:44 am:    SLP-1.7-0
     SLP UA WARNING: Unable to contact directory agent. Verify DA availability,
     IP connectivity, DA discovery options and configuration.

Thanks in advance for any info...

===============
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From fubarsnafu69 at YAHOO.COM  Fri Jan 12 04:02:30 2001
From: fubarsnafu69 at YAHOO.COM (Fred James)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 23:02:30 -0500
Subject: BM 3.5 on NW51
Message-ID: <20010112040229.35153.qmail@web10701.mail.yahoo.com>

Q1)  I have BM3.5 latest patches  on a Nw5.1 SP2 server. It was running
fine for about 4 days. Now it seems to ignore anything going out to
internet. It no longer works as a proxy server. From Console I can't
ping past the NIC on public side. I have a filter set up that allows me
to do NTP to internet, it stopped working.  If I reboot the server all
this works for a couple of times then it stops. Though it seems
everytime I reboot this happens quicker


q2)   In Filtcfg under configer TCPIP Filters - the following are
enabled.
Outgoing RIP Filters
Incoming Rip FIlters
Outgoing EGP Filters
Incoming EGP FIlters
OSPF External Route Filters
Packet Forwarding Filters

Do I need all of these enabled.  Under Packet forwarding I have deny
All set, then I have added to the exception list.




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From Alar at MTK.UT.EE  Fri Jan 12 07:15:36 2001
From: Alar at MTK.UT.EE (Alar Pandis)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 02:15:36 -0500
Subject: Single Server looses time
Message-ID: <NBBBLEPANKOBBECLEKCIEEGFEOAA.Alar@mtk.ut.ee>

Hi!

Lately upgrade from NW4.11 to 5.1 and server losing time constantly some
28/29 seconds per hour. Before that wasn't nothing like that.

Alar.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jerry Bates [mailto:jaybee at DFN.COM]
> Sent: 11. jaanuar 2001. a. 16:21
> Subject: Re: Single Server looses time
>
>
> I had a similiar experience with a single server losing time after the
> install of SP3A for NW5.0. I was instructed to change out the
> battery, then
> upgraded the bios and also ended up changing out the mother
> board. After all
> that I still had the same problem. We ended up per Novell's advice back
> leveling the timesync module to the a module that was a year old.
> I recently upgraded to Sp5 and had the same problem all over again, I once
> again backleveled timesync, uncommented the time reference statements in
> the autoexec.ncf and all is back to normal.  You might check Novell's
> knownledge database for a similiar problem with NW5.1.
>

------------------------------------------------------
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Faculty of Economics and Business Administration
Tartu University, Narva 4-B303, 51009
Tartu, ESTONIA
tel +372 7 376 316, fax +372 7 376 312
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From tch at IQX.CO.UK  Fri Jan 12 08:28:03 2001
From: tch at IQX.CO.UK (Tim Heywood, IQX)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 03:28:03 -0500
Subject: SP2a
Message-ID: <005701c07c72$32d0baf0$0a00a8c0@toy>

Its Back!

It was pulled by mistake!

Phew!

Tim
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From a.l.swiffin at DUNDEE.AC.UK  Fri Jan 12 09:50:18 2001
From: a.l.swiffin at DUNDEE.AC.UK (Andy Swiffin)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 04:50:18 -0500
Subject: NW51SP2A Pulled?
In-Reply-To: <E14GlKf-0003el-00@pp.dundee.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <E14H0qe-0005tV-00@pp.dundee.ac.uk>

> I went to Support Conenctions in search of NW51SP2A, and
> found that it is not available. Does anyone have any info or ideas
> about this?

> Scott Etienne, MCNE

Well I went to:

http://support.novell.com/servlet/filedownload/pub/nw51sp2a.exe

and could download it no problem so it seems OK to me!  (Doesn't
mean that I'm installing it on any live servers though :-)

Andy



Andy Swiffin,
Senior network specialist,
IT services, Dundee University,
Dundee, DD1 4HN.
SCOTLAND.  UK.      Tel 01382 344762

 

From acquistj at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU  Fri Jan 12 11:09:33 2001
From: acquistj at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU (Joe Acquisto)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 06:09:33 -0500
Subject: Can't find source of this error...
Message-ID: <sa5e9f6b.050@lan.newpaltz.edu>

Start by taking in literally.  It cannot contact a DA. Is IP bound and
working
properly?   Is the the only Netware/DS server in your network?

If so, then you should configure it as a DA, could be as
simple as "load SLPDA", in that case.

If not, check up on SLP and Directory Agent, and check the
configurations.

joea/
>>> Russell Foszcz <rfoszcz at MC.NET> 01/11/01 22:51 PM >>>
Does anyone on the list happen to know what the source of this warning
message
is (and subsequently how I'd fix it)?  It's being generated on a newly
installed
NW 5.1 Server w/SP1 installed...

 1-09-2001  10:50:44 am:    SLP-1.7-0
     SLP UA WARNING: Unable to contact directory agent. Verify DA
availability,
     IP connectivity, DA discovery options and configuration.

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From alan at CANISIUS.EDU  Fri Jan 12 11:59:43 2001
From: alan at CANISIUS.EDU (Alan D. Weitzsacker)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 06:59:43 -0500
Subject: ZfD3 hangs on install
Message-ID: <30225649.979282769@ic-05744>

Greetings

I started bright & early today (0400) to do the ZfD3 install on my 4
NW4.x servers. There are 3 NW4.11 servers and one NW4.2 server.
Yesterday I made certain I had the correct JVM and ORB files installed;
all are at NW4SP8a; the NDS is healthy.

I've worked out the answers to the database questions & got essentially
nowhere fast. (relatively speaking)

First attempt was to all 4 servers; hung at the Validating dialog box
that states: "Determining if you have proper file system and NDS rights
to continue. Please wait..."

When I ran this on my test server yesterday, all went well and this
message only was displayed for a few seconds. Realizing that the real
tree is much larger than my test network, I let it sit there for a
while before deciding it wasn't doing anything. I gave it 32 minutes,
so I'm relatively certain that it wasn't going anywhere.

I decided to just try one server, in case going over the one T1 to a
remote site was perhaps contributing to the hang. I chose the server
that was to run the Sybase database. This one installed just as quickly
as my test server did.

Next I selected another local server.  The Validating dialog was as far
as I got. I even tried with deselecting the NDS expansion (figuring it
was probably already done for the tree); still hung. I tried each of
the other 3 servers. Hung every time. I even tried to select the one
that did install OK and one other server. Still hung.

The closest TID I can find at support.novell.com is 10057030, but it
looks like it only applies to a hang at the file copy stage, of which I
have yet to reach.

Before calling Novell and opening an incident, I'm hoping someone else
has encountered this & that the fix is known.  Any advice/comments?

        --alan

----
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Canisius College, Buffalo, NY 14208
alan at canisius.edu

 

From daniel_sikes at CA11.USCOURTS.GOV  Fri Jan 12 13:41:07 2001
From: daniel_sikes at CA11.USCOURTS.GOV (daniel sikes)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:41:07 -0500
Subject: CM/ECF resources
Message-ID: <NOVELL%2001011208410797@LSV.SYR.EDU>

Could someone please tell me where I can find other people working on
CM/ECF?  I am learning to modify events, but having trouble figuring out how
to utilize a picklist in docket text while also being able to define the
contents of the pick list.  If anyone has any ideas how to do this I would
greatly apreciate your ideas.

 

From pburrer at YAHOO.COM  Fri Jan 12 14:06:37 2001
From: pburrer at YAHOO.COM (Paul Burrer)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:06:37 -0500
Subject: BM 3.5 on NW51
Message-ID: <20010112140636.28926.qmail@web112.yahoomail.com>

Some things to check:

Disable RIP for IP. Use static routes instead. after doing that try pinging
again. Have you created any filters? You  state that you have filters enabled,
but have you created any?

Paul Burrer

--- Fred James <fubarsnafu69 at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> Q1)  I have BM3.5 latest patches  on a Nw5.1 SP2 server. It was running
> fine for about 4 days. Now it seems to ignore anything going out to
> internet. It no longer works as a proxy server. From Console I can't
> ping past the NIC on public side. I have a filter set up that allows me
> to do NTP to internet, it stopped working.  If I reboot the server all
> this works for a couple of times then it stops. Though it seems
> everytime I reboot this happens quicker
>
>
> q2)   In Filtcfg under configer TCPIP Filters - the following are
> enabled.
> Outgoing RIP Filters
> Incoming Rip FIlters
> Outgoing EGP Filters
> Incoming EGP FIlters
> OSPF External Route Filters
> Packet Forwarding Filters
>
> Do I need all of these enabled.  Under Packet forwarding I have deny
> All set, then I have added to the exception list.
>
>
>
>
> =====
>
>
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From manielse at ADVO.COM  Fri Jan 12 14:27:04 2001
From: manielse at ADVO.COM (Mark Nielsen)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:27:04 -0500
Subject: BM 3.5 on NW51
Message-ID: <NOVELL%2001011209270455@LSV.SYR.EDU>

>From the readme of NW51 SP2A.... Not sure if this has anything to do with
your issue.

2.4 BorderManager and WebSphere

       If you use a BorderManager proxy accelerator in
       front of your Web site and you have dynamic content
       (either servlets or JSP pages), note that the
       BorderManager accelerator name needs to match with
       an entry in the Configured Hosts for WebSphere.

       If the name and entry do not match, you might get
       errors where servlets aren't found and JSP pages
       aren't processed. If you get an error, either change
       the accelerator name to match or add a matching
       hostname to WebSphere.

 

From Alar at MTK.UT.EE  Fri Jan 12 14:34:31 2001
From: Alar at MTK.UT.EE (Alar Pandis)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:34:31 -0500
Subject: Mess with WS policies pushing
Message-ID: <NBBBLEPANKOBBECLEKCIIEGIEOAA.Alar@mtk.ut.ee>

Hi!

NW5.1 SP2a, ZfD3SP1, client 4.8ZEN3 SP1. When assigning WS policies has
separated into three groups - WS (object), WS group and container then WS
gets policy only from first group, I mean search order is set in search
policy. When some policies is needed to add from another edge (last group)
or middle group then those policies is not pushed into WS. I suppose I have
missed something.
Also, client configuration policy is out of business at all.
But in effective policies tab is everything as suppose to - all needed
policies is in effect.

Better is add policy package directly to WS, but this isn't
reasonable/possible with many computers.

Any hints? Suggestions?

Thanks,
Alar.

------------------------------------------------------
Alar Pandis
Computer Systems Operator
Faculty of Economics and Business Administration
Tartu University, Narva 4-B303, 51009
Tartu, ESTONIA
tel +372 7 376 316, fax +372 7 376 312
e-mail Alar at mtk.ut.ee
------------------------------------------------------

 

From prandal at HEREFORDSHIRE.GOV.UK  Fri Jan 12 14:40:53 2001
From: prandal at HEREFORDSHIRE.GOV.UK (Randal, Phil)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:40:53 -0500
Subject: BM 3.5 on NW51
Message-ID: <AFE36742FF57D411862500508BDE8DD055D0@mail.herefordshire.gov.uk>

SP2 or SP2A?

If it's just SP2, get wsock1.exe and apply it.

Phil

---------------------------------------------
Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Burrer [mailto:pburrer at YAHOO.COM]
> Sent: 12 January 2001 14:07
> To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
> Subject: Re: BM 3.5 on NW51
>
>
> Some things to check:
>
> Disable RIP for IP. Use static routes instead. after doing
> that try pinging
> again. Have you created any filters? You  state that you have
> filters enabled,
> but have you created any?
>
> Paul Burrer
>
> --- Fred James <fubarsnafu69 at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> > Q1)  I have BM3.5 latest patches  on a Nw5.1 SP2 server. It
> was running
> > fine for about 4 days. Now it seems to ignore anything going out to
> > internet. It no longer works as a proxy server. From Console I can't
> > ping past the NIC on public side. I have a filter set up
> that allows me
> > to do NTP to internet, it stopped working.  If I reboot the
> server all
> > this works for a couple of times then it stops. Though it seems
> > everytime I reboot this happens quicker
> >
> >
> > q2)   In Filtcfg under configer TCPIP Filters - the following are
> > enabled.
> > Outgoing RIP Filters
> > Incoming Rip FIlters
> > Outgoing EGP Filters
> > Incoming EGP FIlters
> > OSPF External Route Filters
> > Packet Forwarding Filters
> >
> > Do I need all of these enabled.  Under Packet forwarding I have deny
> > All set, then I have added to the exception list.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > =====
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online!
> > http://photos.yahoo.com/
>
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online!
> http://photos.yahoo.com/
>

 

From tim.clarke at MANIFEST.CO.UK  Fri Jan 12 14:45:44 2001
From: tim.clarke at MANIFEST.CO.UK (Tim Clarke)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:45:44 -0500
Subject: edir85 on Linux
In-Reply-To: <sa5da5b9.014@lan.newpaltz.edu>
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010112144336.00ace788@man3>

At 12:22 11/01/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>I have not found this log, if it exists.  Using nwadmin on the test

Did "find" run without arguing?

>On the Linux issue, oops?,  Is it possible that I cannot use the 56 bit
>eval license to do this deed into a 128bit MLA licensed test tree?

No idea at all, sorry.

>And what is "normally brill" anyway.?

! Normally brilliant !

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Phone:  +44 1 376 503500
Fax:            +44 1 376 503550
Email:          tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk <mailto:tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk>

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YOU ARE NOT THE NAMED ADDRESSEE YOU MUST NOT USE OR DISCLOSE SUCH INFORMATION

 

From lindblom at MICO.COM  Fri Jan 12 14:52:53 2001
From: lindblom at MICO.COM (lindblom at MICO.COM)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:52:53 -0500
Subject: ZfD3 hangs on install
Message-ID: <862569D2.0051C95D.00@mico.com>

I will be attempting this myself later today on three NW5 SP5a servers with one
on the other side of a fractional T1(960KB). I was hoping to run the
installation while people are on the system, My thinking was that it is really
only going to be copying files and a few schema extensions, so it shouldn't be a
problem. Now that I see this I might reconsider my plan. ZfD3 installed fine in
my lab environment also.

Did you combine ZfD3 and SP1 before the install?


John Lindblom, CNE 4/5
MICO, Inc.
N.Mankato, MN



From: "Alan D. Weitzsacker" <alan at CANISIUS.EDU> on 01/12/2001 05:59 AM

Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU>

To:   NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
cc:    (bcc: John Lindblom/MICO)

Subject:  ZfD3 hangs on install


Greetings

I started bright & early today (0400) to do the ZfD3 install on my 4
NW4.x servers. There are 3 NW4.11 servers and one NW4.2 server.
Yesterday I made certain I had the correct JVM and ORB files installed;
all are at NW4SP8a; the NDS is healthy.

I've worked out the answers to the database questions & got essentially
nowhere fast. (relatively speaking)

First attempt was to all 4 servers; hung at the Validating dialog box
that states: "Determining if you have proper file system and NDS rights
to continue. Please wait..."

When I ran this on my test server yesterday, all went well and this
message only was displayed for a few seconds. Realizing that the real
tree is much larger than my test network, I let it sit there for a
while before deciding it wasn't doing anything. I gave it 32 minutes,
so I'm relatively certain that it wasn't going anywhere.

I decided to just try one server, in case going over the one T1 to a
remote site was perhaps contributing to the hang. I chose the server
that was to run the Sybase database. This one installed just as quickly
as my test server did.

Next I selected another local server.  The Validating dialog was as far
as I got. I even tried with deselecting the NDS expansion (figuring it
was probably already done for the tree); still hung. I tried each of
the other 3 servers. Hung every time. I even tried to select the one
that did install OK and one other server. Still hung.

The closest TID I can find at support.novell.com is 10057030, but it
looks like it only applies to a hang at the file copy stage, of which I
have yet to reach.

Before calling Novell and opening an incident, I'm hoping someone else
has encountered this & that the fix is known.  Any advice/comments?

        --alan

----
Alan D. Weitzsacker, System Administrator III
Canisius College, Buffalo, NY 14208
alan at canisius.edu

 

From alan at CANISIUS.EDU  Fri Jan 12 14:59:22 2001
From: alan at CANISIUS.EDU (Alan D. Weitzsacker)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:59:22 -0500
Subject: ZfD3 hangs on install
In-Reply-To: <862569D2.0051C95D.00@mico.com>
Message-ID: <41004237.979293547@ic-05744>

No, I haven't combined this with SP1; just from the media. I didn't get
the impression that this was required from the notes for SP1.

--On Friday, January 12, 2001, 8:52 AM -0600 lindblom at MICO.COM wrote:

> I will be attempting this myself later today on three NW5 SP5a
> servers with one on the other side of a fractional T1(960KB). I was
> hoping to run the installation while people are on the system, My
> thinking was that it is really only going to be copying files and a
> few schema extensions, so it shouldn't be a problem. Now that I see
> this I might reconsider my plan. ZfD3 installed fine in my lab
> environment also.
>
> Did you combine ZfD3 and SP1 before the install?
>
>
> John Lindblom, CNE 4/5
> MICO, Inc.
> N.Mankato, MN
>
>
>
> From: "Alan D. Weitzsacker" <alan at CANISIUS.EDU> on 01/12/2001 05:59 AM
>
> Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU>
>
> To:   NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
> cc:    (bcc: John Lindblom/MICO)
>
> Subject:  ZfD3 hangs on install
>
>
> Greetings

<snip (to keep length reasonable)>



----
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Canisius College, Buffalo, NY 14208
alan at canisius.edu

 

From ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU  Fri Jan 12 15:19:42 2001
From: ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU (Joe Acquisto)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 10:19:42 -0500
Subject: edir85 on Linux
Message-ID: <sa5eda36.013@lan.newpaltz.edu>

>At 12:22 11/01/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>>I have not found this log, if it exists.  Using nwadmin on the test
>
>Did "find" run without arguing?

%#$%.  I mean, Why, yes, perfectly, why do you ask?

(Actually, after a bit of fiddling and "man find"-ing I "think" it
worked.)  Learning new stuff is a joy, to be treasured forever.

>>On the Linux issue, oops?,  Is it possible that I cannot use the 56
bit
>>eval license to do this deed into a 128bit MLA licensed test tree?
>
>No idea at all, sorry.
>

It is not, at least in this instance.  I, and others, (great sigh of
relief) appear to have the same issue even when trying to install a
"new" tree on the box.

>>And what is "normally brill" anyway.?
>
>! Normally brilliant !
>

Oh, I was wondering what that left over halogen lamp was for, in my
"Learn Linux at home" correspondence course.

joea/

>
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From lindblom at MICO.COM  Fri Jan 12 15:30:25 2001
From: lindblom at MICO.COM (lindblom at MICO.COM)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 10:30:25 -0500
Subject: ZfD3 hangs on install
Message-ID: <862569D2.005537B2.00@mico.com>

It's not required, I just found the information on Cool Solutions on how to
combine the two to avoid having to run the SP1after the install.

John



From: "Alan D. Weitzsacker" <alan at CANISIUS.EDU> on 01/12/2001 08:59 AM

Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU>

To:   NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
cc:    (bcc: John Lindblom/MICO)

Subject:  Re: ZfD3 hangs on install


No, I haven't combined this with SP1; just from the media. I didn't get
the impression that this was required from the notes for SP1.

--On Friday, January 12, 2001, 8:52 AM -0600 lindblom at MICO.COM wrote:

> I will be attempting this myself later today on three NW5 SP5a
> servers with one on the other side of a fractional T1(960KB). I was
> hoping to run the installation while people are on the system, My
> thinking was that it is really only going to be copying files and a
> few schema extensions, so it shouldn't be a problem. Now that I see
> this I might reconsider my plan. ZfD3 installed fine in my lab
> environment also.
>
> Did you combine ZfD3 and SP1 before the install?
>
>
> John Lindblom, CNE 4/5
> MICO, Inc.
> N.Mankato, MN
>
>
>
> From: "Alan D. Weitzsacker" <alan at CANISIUS.EDU> on 01/12/2001 05:59 AM
>
> Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU>
>
> To:   NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
> cc:    (bcc: John Lindblom/MICO)
>
> Subject:  ZfD3 hangs on install
>
>
> Greetings

<snip (to keep length reasonable)>



----
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Canisius College, Buffalo, NY 14208
alan at canisius.edu

 

From fubarsnafu69 at YAHOO.COM  Fri Jan 12 15:40:26 2001
From: fubarsnafu69 at YAHOO.COM (Fred James)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 10:40:26 -0500
Subject: BM 3.5 on NW51
Message-ID: <20010112154025.45545.qmail@web10704.mail.yahoo.com>

I already had a static route setup, I have created filters for NTP &
what was created during install when I told it to secure the public
side but allow http proxy to work. Rip for IP is enable - but the
filters are set to deny all in & out going packets

I found that if I set up ping to ping the default gateway ever 45
seconds the link will stay up - at least for the last 12 hours anyway.

I don't have websphere loaded


--- Paul Burrer <pburrer at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> Some things to check:
>
> Disable RIP for IP. Use static routes instead. after doing that try
> pinging
> again. Have you created any filters? You  state that you have filters
> enabled,
> but have you created any?
>
> Paul Burrer
>
> --- Fred James <fubarsnafu69 at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> > Q1)  I have BM3.5 latest patches  on a Nw5.1 SP2 server. It was
> running
> > fine for about 4 days. Now it seems to ignore anything going out to
> > internet. It no longer works as a proxy server. From Console I
> can't
> > ping past the NIC on public side. I have a filter set up that
> allows me
> > to do NTP to internet, it stopped working.  If I reboot the server
> all
> > this works for a couple of times then it stops. Though it seems
> > everytime I reboot this happens quicker
> >
> >
> > q2)   In Filtcfg under configer TCPIP Filters - the following are
> > enabled.
> > Outgoing RIP Filters
> > Incoming Rip FIlters
> > Outgoing EGP Filters
> > Incoming EGP FIlters
> > OSPF External Route Filters
> > Packet Forwarding Filters
> >
> > Do I need all of these enabled.  Under Packet forwarding I have
> deny
> > All set, then I have added to the exception list.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > =====
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online!
> > http://photos.yahoo.com/
>
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online!
> http://photos.yahoo.com/


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online!
http://photos.yahoo.com/

 

From pburrer at YAHOO.COM  Fri Jan 12 16:07:42 2001
From: pburrer at YAHOO.COM (Paul Burrer)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 11:07:42 -0500
Subject: BM 3.5 on NW51
Message-ID: <20010112160740.21647.qmail@web113.yahoomail.com>

if you are using Static routes (which you should be) then  disable RIP for  IP.
What kind of link are we talking about here. It doesn't sound like IP problems;
 it sounds like basic connectivity issues at a lower layer.

Paul Burrer

--- Fred James <fubarsnafu69 at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> I already had a static route setup, I have created filters for NTP &
> what was created during install when I told it to secure the public
> side but allow http proxy to work. Rip for IP is enable - but the
> filters are set to deny all in & out going packets
>
> I found that if I set up ping to ping the default gateway ever 45
> seconds the link will stay up - at least for the last 12 hours anyway.
>
> I don't have websphere loaded
>
>
> --- Paul Burrer <pburrer at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> > Some things to check:
> >
> > Disable RIP for IP. Use static routes instead. after doing that try
> > pinging
> > again. Have you created any filters? You  state that you have filters
> > enabled,
> > but have you created any?
> >
> > Paul Burrer
> >
> > --- Fred James <fubarsnafu69 at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> > > Q1)  I have BM3.5 latest patches  on a Nw5.1 SP2 server. It was
> > running
> > > fine for about 4 days. Now it seems to ignore anything going out to
> > > internet. It no longer works as a proxy server. From Console I
> > can't
> > > ping past the NIC on public side. I have a filter set up that
> > allows me
> > > to do NTP to internet, it stopped working.  If I reboot the server
> > all
> > > this works for a couple of times then it stops. Though it seems
> > > everytime I reboot this happens quicker
> > >
> > >
> > > q2)   In Filtcfg under configer TCPIP Filters - the following are
> > > enabled.
> > > Outgoing RIP Filters
> > > Incoming Rip FIlters
> > > Outgoing EGP Filters
> > > Incoming EGP FIlters
> > > OSPF External Route Filters
> > > Packet Forwarding Filters
> > >
> > > Do I need all of these enabled.  Under Packet forwarding I have
> > deny
> > > All set, then I have added to the exception list.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > =====
> > >
> > >
> > > __________________________________________________
> > > Do You Yahoo!?
> > > Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online!
> > > http://photos.yahoo.com/
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online!
> > http://photos.yahoo.com/
>
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online!
> http://photos.yahoo.com/


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online!
http://photos.yahoo.com/

 

From forrest.swick at UNCO.EDU  Fri Jan 12 17:16:56 2001
From: forrest.swick at UNCO.EDU (Swick, Forrest)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 12:16:56 -0500
Subject: blocking AIM & napster
Message-ID: <B0849D37E756D411B02A00508B55CCAE0A5031@exchange.unco.EDU>

I have a solution for this problem.

Check out a product call Packeteer. http://www.packeteer.com/ We were having
a major problem with Nabster, imesh, scour, etc. until we found this
product.  What packeteer allows you to do is shape all traffic on your
network.  It allows you to define how much bandwidth each application gets
during the day. We were having significant quality of service problems on
our network with students running the "sharing" applications. Once this
product was install we no longer allowed the "sharing" apps to hog the
network all day. They can still use the apps but get a significantly smaller
piece of the bandwidth pie. You don't need to play cat and mouse with
changing port for the traffic, let them use their default ports and just
give them a small network chunk. We tried a couple of other products from
other vendors but their tech support was very bad. Were happy with
Packeteer.

Very Nice.

Check it out.

--Forrest


Forrest H. Swick
Network Administrator
Information Technology, Networking Services
University of Northern Colorado
Greeley, CO 80639-0001 USA
Tele: 970.351.1379
Fax: 970.351.1650

-----Original Message-----
From: rodent [mailto:rodent at VOYAGER.NET]
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 2:22 PM
To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
Subject: blocking AIM & napster


How can I block AOL Instant Messenger, and Napster from communicating
outside our network to their respective servers?

I know that AIM connects on a variety of IPs to a variety of port numbers,
does anyone have a complete list? Here are a few:

205.188.7.168: 5190
205.188.7.176: 5190
205.188.7.164: 5190
205.188.7.172: 5190

If you do autoconfigure in AIM, it will try other ports, but if I can at
least block outgoing to any destination on 5190, then I know how to block
the other ports for AIM.

As for napster, it's all over the place. Does anyone have any advice? I
hear it's pretty tough.

208.184.216.77.napster.com: 8888
208.184.216.38.napster.com: 8888
n184.napster.com: 8888
208.184.216.33.napster.com: 8888
n170.napster.com: 8888


// rodent @ voyager net

//www: http://chelsea.k12.mi.us/~rodent/
//aim: r0dent
//icq: 2575272

 

From tim.clarke at MANIFEST.CO.UK  Fri Jan 12 17:26:07 2001
From: tim.clarke at MANIFEST.CO.UK (Tim Clarke)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 12:26:07 -0500
Subject: edir85 on Linux
In-Reply-To: <sa5eda36.013@lan.newpaltz.edu>
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010112171139.00a98268@man3>

At 10:18 12/01/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>%#$%.  I mean, Why, yes, perfectly, why do you ask?

Just hoping to help you find that log...


Tim Clarke AMBCS MIAP, IT Director, The Manifest Voting Agency Ltd
Phone:  +44 1 376 503500
Fax:            +44 1 376 503550
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From larry_burd at COMPUSERVE.COM  Fri Jan 12 17:55:40 2001
From: larry_burd at COMPUSERVE.COM (Larry Burd)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 12:55:40 -0500
Subject: Lucent Magix phone system
Message-ID: <200101121255_MC2-C19B-D760@compuserve.com>

We have just installed a new phone system.  A   T1   goes into the phone
system with 24 channels (ports).  only 16 are being used for the voice-fax
lines.  The remaining 8 ports can be directed out through a INA-T1 card to
provide internet access.   basically a partial T1 is available from our T1
Provider for internet.   They say the router is built into the phone
system.  The port on the phone system is a stardard  port for a cat5 cable.
My biggest concern is a firewall.   

does anyone know what package I need for my server to connect to this.  
The phone installer suggested an NT proxy server, but I'd rather keep my
network pure Novell.

Did anyone out there ever do anything like this?  any input is greatly
apprecated as the installer said this lucent magix T1-INA technology is
very new, and he only did one before.

thx
Larry Burd

 

From Chris_Moore at MAIL.DOR.STATE.MO.US  Fri Jan 12 18:20:43 2001
From: Chris_Moore at MAIL.DOR.STATE.MO.US (Moore, Chris)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:20:43 -0500
Subject: weird problem: My Computer causes Explorer restart?
Message-ID: <27E9B6F4DA4CD211BB68002035298F5A044BD67E@mail.dor.state.mo.us>

The time I had this type of problem, the login script was corrupted.  Had to
delete and recreate the script.  No idea how the script became corrupt.
Dont cut and paste because it appeared there was something hidden in the
text.  I tried to cut and paste and it didn't work.  HTH.

Chris....

-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Catelinet [mailto:PCatelinet at CGSH.COM]
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 3:35 PM
Subject: weird problem: My Computer causes Explorer restart?


Our Tokyo office, due to be rolled out with Windows 2000 and NetWare 5.1
next week, has the following unusual problem:

When a user logs in and maps drives from the login script, then
double-clicks on My Computer, Explorer (aka the entire desktop or "shell")
closes and restarts.  I can reproduce this here in New York by logging in
as a Tokyo user, so it's not their PCs.  You can't run Explorer at all to
look at the drives without the desktop reinitializing.  The really weird
part is that if you REM out one drive mapping in the login script, then
login as a user, the problem goes away.  Also, if you manually map a drive
to the errant volume, the problem doesn't happen.  Only if you let the
login script map it do we see this issue.  I've already worked on fixing
the volume and AFAIK it's OK.  We had this problem in our London office in
September and someone over there fixed it.  I sent them a message but they
won't get it for a few more hours.  I'm hoping someone here has a similar
setup and might know what's going on.  We're using the 4.71 client at the
desktop.

Thanks,
Phil


Philip E. Catelinet
Senior Network Analyst/Engineer
Cleary, Gottlieb, Steen & Hamilton
(212) 225-3201
pcatelinet at cgsh.com
http://www.cgsh.com



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From seanb at PROPHET.MB.CA  Fri Jan 12 18:33:37 2001
From: seanb at PROPHET.MB.CA (Sean Beggs)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:33:37 -0500
Subject: Single server loses time
References: <200101121821.f0CILhO12947@mx1.mts.net>
Message-ID: <3A5F4E47.5D14D374@prophet.mb.ca>

Anyone using Netware 5.1 who is experiencing losing time may want to try updating
their ideata.ham files from this link:

http://support.novell.com/servlet/filedownload/pub/ideata5a.exe

It is a known issue and this file fixes the problem.   Explanation for the
problem/solution can be found here:

http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/tidfinder.cgi?2956780

Hope this works!

Sean Beggs
Prophet Business Group

 

From qousqu at YAHOO.COM  Fri Jan 12 18:40:41 2001
From: qousqu at YAHOO.COM (Carlos Burrell)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:40:41 -0500
Subject: How do I configure remote printer in Windows 98
Message-ID: <20010112184040.13264.qmail@web110.yahoomail.com>

I need to configured a Windows 98 workstation to share
its printer on a Novell 4.1 server.  What I need to do
to share this workstation printer.


__________________________________________________
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Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online!
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From tim.clarke at MANIFEST.CO.UK  Fri Jan 12 18:47:30 2001
From: tim.clarke at MANIFEST.CO.UK (Tim Clarke)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:47:30 -0500
Subject: Lucent Magix phone system
In-Reply-To: <200101121255_MC2-C19B-D760@compuserve.com>
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010112184603.00a6f718@man3>

My advice is go Netware if you want central control or go Linux if you want
cheap (free!) and the responsibility. There's lots of good advice about
your own

At 12:55 12/01/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>We have just installed a new phone system.  A   T1   goes into the phone
>system with 24 channels (ports).  only 16 are being used for the voice-fax
>lines.  The remaining 8 ports can be directed out through a INA-T1 card to
>provide internet access.   basically a partial T1 is available from our T1
>Provider for internet.   They say the router is built into the phone
>system.  The port on the phone system is a stardard  port for a cat5 cable.
>My biggest concern is a firewall.
>
>does anyone know what package I need for my server to connect to this.
>The phone installer suggested an NT proxy server, but I'd rather keep my
>network pure Novell.
>
>Did anyone out there ever do anything like this?  any input is greatly
>apprecated as the installer said this lucent magix T1-INA technology is
>very new, and he only did one before.
>
>thx
>Larry Burd

Tim Clarke AMBCS MIAP, IT Director, The Manifest Voting Agency Ltd
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From ajs at STOLAF.EDU  Fri Jan 12 19:15:36 2001
From: ajs at STOLAF.EDU (Tony Skalski)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:15:36 -0500
Subject: ZfD3 hangs on install
Message-ID: <3A5F57DD.FF80B4B2@stolaf.edu>

Alan,

This is a known problem with the ZfD3 install. There is a fix available
from Novell. Call them to open an incident and ask for the file
InvRMInstall.jar. The 'fixed' file is newer than SP1, so SP1 does not
help here. Because this is a known problem, you should not be charged
for the incident.

To complete the install, you will need to copy the install files to a
local HD, overwrite InvRMInstall.jar with the updated version and you're
off. It worked wonders here.

ajs
--
Tony Skalski
Microcomputer Systems Administrator
507-646-3227
ajs at stolaf.edu
--------------------------------------------------------
St. Olaf College                    1510 St. Olaf Avenue
Academic Computing Center      Northfield, MN 55057-1097

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Original Message:

Greetings

I started bright & early today (0400) to do the ZfD3 install on my 4
NW4.x servers. There are 3 NW4.11 servers and one NW4.2 server.
Yesterday I made certain I had the correct JVM and ORB files installed;
all are at NW4SP8a; the NDS is healthy.

I've worked out the answers to the database questions & got essentially
nowhere fast. (relatively speaking)

First attempt was to all 4 servers; hung at the Validating dialog box
that states: "Determining if you have proper file system and NDS rights
to continue. Please wait..."

When I ran this on my test server yesterday, all went well and this
message only was displayed for a few seconds. Realizing that the real
tree is much larger than my test network, I let it sit there for a
while before deciding it wasn't doing anything. I gave it 32 minutes,
so I'm relatively certain that it wasn't going anywhere.

I decided to just try one server, in case going over the one T1 to a
remote site was perhaps contributing to the hang. I chose the server
that was to run the Sybase database. This one installed just as quickly
as my test server did.

Next I selected another local server.  The Validating dialog was as far
as I got. I even tried with deselecting the NDS expansion (figuring it
was probably already done for the tree); still hung. I tried each of
the other 3 servers. Hung every time. I even tried to select the one
that did install OK and one other server. Still hung.

The closest TID I can find at support.novell.com is 10057030, but it
looks like it only applies to a hang at the file copy stage, of which I
have yet to reach.

Before calling Novell and opening an incident, I'm hoping someone else
has encountered this & that the fix is known.  Any advice/comments?

        --alan

----
Alan D. Weitzsacker, System Administrator III
Canisius College, Buffalo, NY 14208
alan at canisius.edu

 

From MarkSmith at DATAIP.CO.UK  Fri Jan 12 19:31:01 2001
From: MarkSmith at DATAIP.CO.UK (Mark Smith)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:31:01 -0500
Subject: SP2a
Message-ID: <sa5f5ac8.058@FS1.co.uk>

>From where I am standing, looks more like it was a mistake to put it out in the first place :-(


On Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:32:27 -0000 Tim Heywood wrote...

Its Back!

It was pulled by mistake!

Phew!

 

From MHGlenn at CCO.STATE.OH.US  Fri Jan 12 19:32:18 2001
From: MHGlenn at CCO.STATE.OH.US (Michael Glenn)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:32:18 -0500
Subject: blocking AIM & napster
Message-ID: <sa5f1572.086@post.cco.state.oh.us>

Nope; that'll break it. :p
However, if you configure your app to trigger on and remove registry settings instead, that'll be much harder to work around.
:>

Regards;
         --------->Michael.
MCNE, BOFH

"Quoth the End User with a sneer and a taunt;
''Tis just what we asked for,
  but not what we want!'"


>>> bvolpone at LUTHERCARE.ORG 01/11/01 12:33PM >>>
What if the user reinstalls into a non-default directory? Does it still
work?

>>> Michael Glenn <MHGlenn at CCO.STATE.OH.US> 01/11/01 12:26PM >>>
This can be done with ZENworks, as well. I have a few force-run apps
that trigger on the presence of certain files, and deletes them. If the
luser reinstalls, the ZEN app triggers again, and the installation gets
deleted again.
:)

Regards;
         --------->Michael.
MCNE, BOFH

"Quoth the End User with a sneer and a taunt;
''Tis just what we asked for,
  but not what we want!'"


>>> kdlrn at KENTLIBRARY.LIB.MI.US 01/11/01 12:15PM >>>
Off-list I suggested just adding the key Napster and AIM files to the
network anti-virus scanner; if the scanner can be configured to report
on
and/or remove any offending software that if finds, then who cares
what
ports the programs are using.


Richard J. Nagel                   "Opinions stated are personal, and
Network Support Specialist          do not reflect official library
Kent District Library+              policy or statements."
kdlrn at kentlibrary.lib.mi.us 
---
"NetWare: The hard working network software; it never feels blue,
          and it doesn't need an office with windows."





On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, Tim Clarke wrote:

> People, isn't a better rule to block all ports and then open those
that are
> actually needed?
>
> At 09:03 11/01/2001 -0500, you wrote:
> >Napster needs port 8875 to login so blocking this port in both TCP
> >and UPD has worked for me.  I don't run BorderManager but
> >blocking those ports at our edge router has worked for me.
> >
> >Thom
> >
> >Thom Mountain
> >Horry County Schools
> >
> >tmounta at hcsd.sccoast.net 
>
> Tim Clarke AMBCS MIAP, IT Director, The Manifest Voting Agency Ltd
> Phone:  +44 1 376 503500
> Fax:            +44 1 376 503550
> Email:          tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk 
<mailto:tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk>
>
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From mrmeyer2 at MADISON.TEC.WI.US  Fri Jan 12 21:03:14 2001
From: mrmeyer2 at MADISON.TEC.WI.US (Mike Meyer)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 16:03:14 -0500
Subject: blocking AIM & napster
Message-ID: <sa5f1c9c.093@mail>

Here's the simple vbscript I wrote to accomplish the uninstall.
2 steps to get this to run for you.
1. add a .vbs to the name of the file.  
2. edit the ShellObject.Run line near the end of the script to point to the exe  I copied the uninstall application to the network.

Mike

>>> MHGlenn at CCO.STATE.OH.US 01/12/01 13:32 PM >>>
Nope; that'll break it. :p
However, if you configure your app to trigger on and remove registry settings instead, that'll be much harder to work around.
:>

Regards;
         --------->Michael.
MCNE, BOFH

"Quoth the End User with a sneer and a taunt;
''Tis just what we asked for,
  but not what we want!'"


>>> bvolpone at LUTHERCARE.ORG 01/11/01 12:33PM >>>
What if the user reinstalls into a non-default directory? Does it still
work?

>>> Michael Glenn <MHGlenn at CCO.STATE.OH.US> 01/11/01 12:26PM >>>
This can be done with ZENworks, as well. I have a few force-run apps
that trigger on the presence of certain files, and deletes them. If the
luser reinstalls, the ZEN app triggers again, and the installation gets
deleted again.
:)

Regards;
         --------->Michael.
MCNE, BOFH

"Quoth the End User with a sneer and a taunt;
''Tis just what we asked for,
  but not what we want!'"


>>> kdlrn at KENTLIBRARY.LIB.MI.US 01/11/01 12:15PM >>>
Off-list I suggested just adding the key Napster and AIM files to the
network anti-virus scanner; if the scanner can be configured to report
on
and/or remove any offending software that if finds, then who cares
what
ports the programs are using.


Richard J. Nagel                   "Opinions stated are personal, and
Network Support Specialist          do not reflect official library
Kent District Library+              policy or statements."
kdlrn at kentlibrary.lib.mi.us 
---
"NetWae: The hard working network software; it never feels blue,
          and it doesn't need an office with windows."





On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, Tim Clarke wrote:

> People, isn't a better rule to block all ports and then open those
that are
> actually needed?
>
> At 09:03 11/01/2001 -0500, you wrote:
> >Napster needs port 8875 to login so blocking this port in both TCP
> >and UPD has worked for me.  I don't run BorderManager but
> >blocking those ports at our edge router has worked for me.
> >
> >Thom
> >
> >Thom Mountain
> >Horry County Schools
> >
> >tmounta at hcsd.sccoast.net 
>
> Tim Clarke AMBCS MIAP, IT Director, The Manifest Voting Agency Ltd
> Phone:  +44 1 376 503500
> Fax:            +44 1 376 503550
> Email:          tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk 
<mailto:tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk>
>
> THIS EMAIL MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL OR LEGALLY PRIVILEGED
INFORMATION.  IF
> YOU ARE NOT THE NAMED ADDRESSEE YOU MUST NOT USE OR DISCLOSE SUCH
INFORMATION
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From angussf at GEOAPPS.COM  Fri Jan 12 21:12:57 2001
From: angussf at GEOAPPS.COM (Angus Scott-Fleming)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 16:12:57 -0500
Subject: How do I configure remote printer in Windows 98
In-Reply-To: <20010112184040.13264.qmail@web110.yahoomail.com>
Message-ID: <3A5F10D6.26433.AC82B4@localhost>

On 12 Jan 2001, at 10:40, Carlos Burrell wrote:

> I need to configured a Windows 98 workstation to share
> its printer on a Novell 4.1 server.  What I need to do
> to share this workstation printer.

NPrinter95 - TIDs are on the Novell kbase

---------------------------------------------------------
Angus Scott-Fleming      GeoApplications, Tucson, Arizona
angussf at geoapps.com   1-520-290-5038 / fax 1-208-248-3124
---------------------------------------------------------

 

From daniel_sikes at GAMB.USCOURTS.GOV  Fri Jan 12 21:37:06 2001
From: daniel_sikes at GAMB.USCOURTS.GOV (Daniel Sikes)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 16:37:06 -0500
Subject: Test, please ignore
Message-ID: <NOVELL%2001011216370623@LSV.SYR.EDU>

Thanks

 

From acquistj at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU  Fri Jan 12 22:17:39 2001
From: acquistj at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU (Joe Acquisto)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 17:17:39 -0500
Subject: edir85 on Linux
Message-ID: <sa5f370d.081@lan.newpaltz.edu>

>At 10:18 12/01/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>>%#$%.  I mean, Why, yes, perfectly, why do you ask?
>
>Just hoping to help you find that log...
>

And appreciated, have no doubt.

joea/

>
>
>Tim Clarke AMBCS MIAP, IT Director, The Manifest Voting Agency Ltd
>Phone:  +44 1 376 503500
>Fax:            +44 1 376 503550
>Email:          tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk
><mailto:tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk>
>
>THIS EMAIL MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL OR LEGALLY
>PRIVILEGED INFORMATION.  IF
>YOU ARE NOT THE NAMED ADDRESSEE YOU MUST NOT USE OR
>DISCLOSE SUCH INFORMATION

 

From arthur-b at ZEELANDNET.NL  Fri Jan 12 22:23:44 2001
From: arthur-b at ZEELANDNET.NL (Arthur B.)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 17:23:44 -0500
Subject: wm95sast
References: <sa5e2d46.043@lan.newpaltz.edu>
Message-ID: <3A5F82DA.4EA885E@zeelandnet.nl>

Joe Acquisto wrote:
> > "Arthur B." <arthur-b at ZEELANDNET.NL> 01/11/01 17:18 PM >>>
> >
> >> Beverly Berard wrote:
> >> Has anyone found a cure for the login process hanging on
> >> WM95SAST.EXE after upgrading to zenworks2?
>
> > I'm currently at a site where the same problem is happening. There seems
> > to be a right issue with the WM:Workstation attribute of each and every
> > User Object. The rights for that attribute should be Read, Compare and
> > Write. See TID's: 10051104, 2953371, 2954243, 2927376, 10054781 and
> > 10057791.
>
> Are these stations connecting at 100 FD, by chance?
>
> I just had odd  problems with ZEN/NAL on some stations that had
> slipped into FD.  These were the helpfull 3com NICs.  Setting the
> switch to HD, and rebooting the PC seems to have cleared up
> several PC mysteries.
>
> I think the NW client, especially with ZEN/NAL, does not do well
> in with some NICS in FD mode.

Indeed, 3Com's, FD, the works. Currently (network) redesigns and
re-cabling are in progress. As well as upgrading the entire
infrastructure at the same time.

Thanks for the tip BTW. I know that problematic networks can cause all
sorts of weird issues but I wasn't aware that WM95SAST was that
sensitive. I'll look into it.

Still, I would advise checking out the attribute rights I mentioned.
Certainly if you see -602 errors here and there (-602 as in
NO_SUCH_RIGHTS rather then NO_SUCH_VALUE).

PS: reconfiguring the switch to HD doesn't help here. Those helpfull
3Com's then refuse to even see the network. One has to reconfigure at
both ends at the same time. Oh joy.

** Arthur B.
** arthur-b at zeelandnet.nl
** http://people.zeelandnet.nl/arthur-b

 

From douglasbecker at HOME.COM  Fri Jan 12 22:39:11 2001
From: douglasbecker at HOME.COM (Doug Becker)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 17:39:11 -0500
Subject: Lucent Magix phone system
In-Reply-To: <200101121255_MC2-C19B-D760@compuserve.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBJMHBKLOFPFKDPBLJEEBJCHAA.douglasbecker@home.com>

Sure!! BorderManager.  You will need to put a second NIC in the BM server
and an IP from your provider for that NIC.  The BM server becomes your
firewall and proxy server.  That is about all that I know about this, but am
getting ready to learn a whole lot more.  This is what we will be doing.



-----Original Message-----
From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of
Larry Burd
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 12:55 PM
To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Lucent Magix phone system


We have just installed a new phone system.  A   T1   goes into the phone
system with 24 channels (ports).  only 16 are being used for the voice-fax
lines.  The remaining 8 ports can be directed out through a INA-T1 card to
provide internet access.   basically a partial T1 is available from our T1
Provider for internet.   They say the router is built into the phone
system.  The port on the phone system is a stardard  port for a cat5 cable.
My biggest concern is a firewall.

does anyone know what package I need for my server to connect to this.
The phone installer suggested an NT proxy server, but I'd rather keep my
network pure Novell.

Did anyone out there ever do anything like this?  any input is greatly
apprecated as the installer said this lucent magix T1-INA technology is
very new, and he only did one before.

thx
Larry Burd

 

From rsher02 at EMORY.EDU  Sat Jan 13 00:27:59 2001
From: rsher02 at EMORY.EDU (Robert Sherman)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 19:27:59 -0500
Subject: new external network number
Message-ID: <3A5FA146.48BA175C@emory.edu>

the building my server is in is getting a new address space and so we
need to change the external network number on the server...is there
anything else i need to do on a NW5 server aside from going into
Bindings in INETCFG and changing the network numbers on the two boards
with IPX bound to them, and then rebooting the server? (aside from
tracking down all the devices that will no doubt start filling my
console with router misconfiguration errors)

 

From JRD at CC.USU.EDU  Sat Jan 13 00:58:38 2001
From: JRD at CC.USU.EDU (Joe Doupnik)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 19:58:38 -0500
Subject: new external network number
Message-ID: <01JYTUDCO5AQ94GJT1@cc.usu.edu>

>the building my server is in is getting a new address space and so we
>need to change the external network number on the server...is there
>anything else i need to do on a NW5 server aside from going into
>Bindings in INETCFG and changing the network numbers on the two boards
>with IPX bound to them, and then rebooting the server? (aside from
>tracking down all the devices that will no doubt start filling my
>console with router misconfiguration errors)
-------
        Also change the internal IPX network number (autoexec.ncf item)
to be in alignment with the new location. Random numbers are a bad idea,
use the Utah standard (see file utahstd.txt in directory pub/misc on
netlab1 nor netlab2.usu.edu)
        Joe D.

 

From rsher02 at EMORY.EDU  Sat Jan 13 01:30:08 2001
From: rsher02 at EMORY.EDU (Robert Sherman)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 20:30:08 -0500
Subject: new external network number
References: <01JYTUDCO5AQ94GJT1@cc.usu.edu>
Message-ID: <3A5FAFD7.8AD08105@emory.edu>

does the internal number *have* to be in alignment, or can i leave it as
is until we actually switch the server's IP address (in a few days, at
which point i would change it to match the server's IP address)?

i ask because i did as i described (just switched the network number in
INETCFG for both boards) and after rebooting, i lost all IPX
connectivity. IP still worked fine. i switched the boards back to the
old network number and reinitialized, and everything works again.

the other side of this is that our Network Ops people had to reconfigure
our port on the router to reflect the new network address. i am just
wondering if the reason this did not work is on my end or theirs...




Joe Doupnik wrote:
>
> >the building my server is in is getting a new address space and so we
> >need to change the external network number on the server...is there
> >anything else i need to do on a NW5 server aside from going into
> >Bindings in INETCFG and changing the network numbers on the two boards
> >with IPX bound to them, and then rebooting the server? (aside from
> >tracking down all the devices that will no doubt start filling my
> >console with router misconfiguration errors)
> -------
>         Also change the internal IPX network number (autoexec.ncf item)
> to be in alignment with the new location. Random numbers are a bad idea,
> use the Utah standard (see file utahstd.txt in directory pub/misc on
> netlab1 nor netlab2.usu.edu)
>         Joe D.

 

From JRD at CC.USU.EDU  Sat Jan 13 02:28:56 2001
From: JRD at CC.USU.EDU (Joe Doupnik)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 21:28:56 -0500
Subject: new external network number
Message-ID: <01JYTXHWTUEQ94GGHP@cc.usu.edu>

>does the internal number *have* to be in alignment, or can i leave it as
>is until we actually switch the server's IP address (in a few days, at
>which point i would change it to match the server's IP address)?
>
>i ask because i did as i described (just switched the network number in
>INETCFG for both boards) and after rebooting, i lost all IPX
>connectivity. IP still worked fine. i switched the boards back to the
>old network number and reinitialized, and everything works again.
>
>the other side of this is that our Network Ops people had to reconfigure
>our port on the router to reflect the new network address. i am just
>wondering if the reason this did not work is on my end or theirs...
-------
        The new external IPX address takes effect after reinitializing
the server (or rebooting it), the internal IPX address can remain fixed
during this process.
        Other routers remember the IPX information. Let that die away
after about 15 minutes of no response to that old IPX address. Filtering
at your site will need adjustment to match, a matter we can not detail.
        Joe D.

 

From mkoll at USOL.COM  Sat Jan 13 03:15:15 2001
From: mkoll at USOL.COM (Mike Kollmorgan)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 22:15:15 -0500
Subject: Video cards
Message-ID: <NEBBKAMCKPDKNGGIMODJAEJGCEAA.mkoll@usol.com>

I have noticed with Novell 5.1 it can be picky about video cards.  Since
Novell has no need for AGP what should the graphics aperature size be set
to?  I have been trying to install 5.1 and I am trying an array of video
cards.  What I haven't tried is VGA vs SVGA during the install.  I will
probably try that next.  I haven't really noticed a lot of need for the GUI
interface.  Do I really need to load it when the server starts?  I looks
like you can't get around it on the install.  Has anyone had good luck with
any particular card?  I have tried ELSA Vanta 16, ATI Xpert 98, Diamond
Stealth S540.  Although they may all work in VGA mode!

Thanks

Mike Kollmorgan
LCS

 

From JRD at CC.USU.EDU  Sat Jan 13 04:01:47 2001
From: JRD at CC.USU.EDU (Joe Doupnik)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 23:01:47 -0500
Subject: Video cards
Message-ID: <01JYU0R16BV694GG09@cc.usu.edu>

>I have noticed with Novell 5.1 it can be picky about video cards.  Since
>Novell has no need for AGP what should the graphics aperature size be set
>to?  I have been trying to install 5.1 and I am trying an array of video
>cards.  What I haven't tried is VGA vs SVGA during the install.  I will
>probably try that next.  I haven't really noticed a lot of need for the GUI
>interface.  Do I really need to load it when the server starts?  I looks
>like you can't get around it on the install.  Has anyone had good luck with
>any particular card?  I have tried ELSA Vanta 16, ATI Xpert 98, Diamond
>Stealth S540.  Although they may all work in VGA mode!
>
>Thanks
>
>Mike Kollmorgan
>LCS
--------
        Forget aperture size. Use SVGA to install. Edit autoexec.ncf and
REM out startx afterward. Forget the GUI unless it is really required by an
installation script or such.
        Joe D.

 

From mkoll at USOL.COM  Sat Jan 13 05:11:11 2001
From: mkoll at USOL.COM (Mike Kollmorgan)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 00:11:11 -0500
Subject: 5.1 options
Message-ID: <NEBBKAMCKPDKNGGIMODJEEJJCEAA.mkoll@usol.com>

There are all kinds of new features to Novell 5.1.  But I am upgrading from
Novell 3.2 to 5.1 and just need a basic file/print server.  I don't need
NDPS although I am looking at it for future benifit.  There are other
options loading such as LDAP.  Just what do I need to load for a plain old
file/print server and what can I comment out after the server is up and
runnig.

Thanks

Mike Kollmorgan
LCS

 

From JRD at CC.USU.EDU  Sat Jan 13 05:51:07 2001
From: JRD at CC.USU.EDU (Joe Doupnik)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 00:51:07 -0500
Subject: 5.1 options
Message-ID: <01JYU4LCEELU94GHN3@cc.usu.edu>

>There are all kinds of new features to Novell 5.1.  But I am upgrading from
>Novell 3.2 to 5.1 and just need a basic file/print server.  I don't need
>NDPS although I am looking at it for future benifit.  There are other
>options loading such as LDAP.  Just what do I need to load for a plain old
>file/print server and what can I comment out after the server is up and
>runnig.
>
>Thanks
>
>Mike Kollmorgan
>LCS
----------
        Install the works, then comment out things in autoexec.ncf. It will
take you awhile to understand what's there and more time to discover you may
want many of those things. Basically, start off on the right foot.
        Joe D.

 

From admin at IAA.GOV.IL  Sat Jan 13 09:12:25 2001
From: admin at IAA.GOV.IL (Mike Glassman - Admin)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 04:12:25 -0500
Subject: How to Merge NDS8 Trees?
Message-ID: <7F4D39EF73659140A9DC38EB5FC875054869E7@hobit.IAADOM>

The only way I know to do this, is to install a server with standard NDS
into the trees, make it (them) the Master of [Root], and merge the trees,
and then return the real Master to operational status.

I have not heard of anything else in this direction.

Mike

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lutz, Linda [SMTP:llutz at METROPO.MCCNEB.EDU]
> Sent: ? ????? 11 2001 22:19
> To:   NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
> Subject:      How to Merge NDS8 Trees?
> 
> According to TID 10011011, DSMERGE is not supported on the NDS version 8.x
> platform at this time.  Will it be supported in the near future?
> How can I merge two Trees each containing one server only and both servers
> running NW5.1, with support pack 5.1.1, and DS.NLM version 8.51?

 

From Alar at MTK.UT.EE  Sat Jan 13 13:23:27 2001
From: Alar at MTK.UT.EE (Alar Pandis)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 08:23:27 -0500
Subject: Single server loses time
Message-ID: <NBBBLEPANKOBBECLEKCICEGPEOAA.Alar@mtk.ut.ee>

Hi!

IDEATA.HAM is not loaded at all - purely SCSI environment in mine case.
Constantly losing 28/29 seconds per hour. I have rdate loaded and this isn't
such a big problem, but something is wrong, I suppose.

Alar.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sean Beggs [mailto:seanb at PROPHET.MB.CA]
> Sent: 12. jaanuar 2001. a. 20:35
> Subject: Re: Single server loses time
>
>
> Anyone using Netware 5.1 who is experiencing losing time may want
> to try updating
> their ideata.ham files from this link:
>
> http://support.novell.com/servlet/filedownload/pub/ideata5a.exe
>
> It is a known issue and this file fixes the problem.   Explanation for the
> problem/solution can be found here:
>
> http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/tidfinder.cgi?2956780
>
> Hope this works!
>
> Sean Beggs
> Prophet Business Group
>

 

From manielse at ADVO.COM  Sat Jan 13 13:33:03 2001
From: manielse at ADVO.COM (Mark Nielsen)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 08:33:03 -0500
Subject: SP2a
Message-ID: <NOVELL%2001011308330393@LSV.SYR.EDU>

This wasn't exactly by mistake. If you notice, the date stamp is different.
The only change I can see is the file NW51SP2A.TXT now dated 01-11-2001 but
I'm not exactly sure if there are more nor what they changed in the text
file.

 

From columbo at DDS.NL  Sat Jan 13 15:10:09 2001
From: columbo at DDS.NL (Roland Kool)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 10:10:09 -0500
Subject: ZEN3 Imaging and multiboots
Message-ID: <NOVELL%2001011310100930@LSV.SYR.EDU>

Hi,

I've seen a lot of people on this list using or planning on using ZEN
3. I also know that a lot of school admins are on this list. I'm a
schooladmin too, experimenting with ZEN3.
Because of the demands of the school environment, some computerl