From JRD at cc.usu.edu Sun Dec 1 22:51:50 2002 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 15:51:50 -0700 (MST) Subject: List management question Message-ID: <01KPITRL47UQ91X7UC@cc.usu.edu> >>then please visit >> http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo >> and choose one (and your list preferences). > >URL worked for me. I added that alias this weekend. The two forms which work are http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo (an alias) http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo (the real thing) Personally I remember the first easier, but tastes vary. On netlab1's opening web page, revised yesterday, is a clickable item to accomplish the same goal. I tacked on a trailing "novell/" phrase to skip the first page which says choose a list. Never fear, just use something and stick with it. >>What is your preference: archives visible to >> the public or to only subscribed members? > >Definitely Public, lets prospective subs see what is covered b4 subbing. > >Brett Wheeler >Network Administrator >Daramalan College >Dickson ACT 2602 >Australia >Mob (+61) 0417 228 714 >email brett.wheeler at daramalanc.act.edu.au Roger the list exposure. Heard loud and clear. The archive is open to non-subscribers at this time, even though it lets in the net.vikings (raid&plunder folks). It's our (plural) list to arrange as we think best. This particular question has rather huge technical consequences, as it turns out. Not that it should concern list members, but it certainly is a puzzle to arrange. Fetching messages is done from an area not within the web server's document root because locating within doc root lets them grabbing by any caller whomsoever. Most search engines want to provide the user with a direct URL to fetch the document, which means said docs need to be within doc root. They also prefer to get the indexing info the same public way (via browsing), which is how they learn which URL to give to the user later on. Not all search engines do this, but most do so. So I had to find ways of both indexing traffic and delivering found messages via proxy agents in the server which could reach the location of files; the web server can't see those files itself. The indexer sees the file system directly, but the web agents act as proxies. Mission accomplished, but it was not an easy task. However, I am still looking for a better search engine; suggestions are most welcome. To keep down unexpected visits by Norsemen of old I removed the ability to grab all the list traffic in one gulp. One has to work at it piecemeal, and there are lots of pieces. Another note is html traffic is stripped out and put into a separate pile. It's grabbable, but it won't clutter your screen otherwise. Now back to my NetWare server rebuilding exercise, in progress across the hall in my lab. It's one of those "you will run it soon enough" affairs and if I goof and miss an important point you guys will yell at me. Joe D. From douglasbecker at cox.net Mon Dec 2 04:30:12 2002 From: douglasbecker at cox.net (Doug Becker) Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 23:30:12 -0500 Subject: Problem with remote users Message-ID: I have 26 remote users and they are all working fine except one. We are using a national dial-up carrier (Earthlink) and the Bordermanager VPN. When this users dials in, they connect to the VPN fine, but the internal connections do not seem to be setting up. They cannot connect to the GroupWise system (it tells them it cannot connect to the Master Mailbox) and when we try a live connection it never does connect. When I have them try to ping the internal servers, they all time out. I have made sure that the SLPDA server address is in the client setup, but that does not seem to help. Is there something that I am missing? From Patrick at spm.org.za Mon Dec 2 12:27:41 2002 From: Patrick at spm.org.za (Patrick Medhurst) Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 14:27:41 +0200 Subject: HP WebJetadmin Message-ID: Is it possible to configure the PSERVER slot number using WebJetadmin? I seem to be unable to find the correct widget to press. From ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu Mon Dec 2 13:44:15 2002 From: ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 08:44:15 -0500 Subject: SSL speedup Message-ID: (Oops, address book editing error, sorry for sending this to "old list" joea) Testing SSL for GroupWise Webaccess, shows that, at dial up speeds, the loading of images is slower than non SSL, to an annoying degree. While Apache/Tomcat (NW6, sp2 and GW6, sp2, vanilla install) is significantly faster (apparently) than NES, it may yet generate complaints. Hints to speed this up? Is it even possible? ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- "Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it" http://www.congress.org http://www.tompaine.com --------------------------------------------------- From rmoletti at ops.org Mon Dec 2 15:05:30 2002 From: rmoletti at ops.org (Rich Molettiere) Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 09:05:30 -0600 Subject: Fwd: WMRUNDLL gone nuts Message-ID: I have a single W2K with 4.83 client on which wmrundll is running is pegging the computer utilization at 99% and has been doing so since last Wed. You can't end task the process, I've tried removing the client and reinstalling and searched the KB but nothing relates to this problem. Any suggestions for taming the beast? Rich Molettiere Technology Coordinator Omaha North High School "Technology is not a free lunch." Rich Molettiere Technology Coordinator Omaha North High School "Technology is not a free lunch." From allan.bank at eds.com Mon Dec 2 15:21:41 2002 From: allan.bank at eds.com (Bank, Allan) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 15:21:41 -0000 Subject: SSL speedup Message-ID: <5917FD47436E784D8B08F132F0AC5061515DD9@sessm201> Joe, the first hand shake between the client and the server is the most time consuming activity and where you might notice a significant increase in CPU-load on the server. After the keys have been established the continued session does not load the server as much as initially. Although all traffic is encrypted I fail to see the increase in the actual data being transmitted, apart from a few extra packets with SSL-session information. Still, the above could be a source that you want to check out. On dial-up the extra information required could have a greater impact than being suspected. To solve the huge impact on the CPU-load there are many Cache and SSL-accelerators out there that does the job just nicely (Volera and MS ISA to mention a few). There is even a add-on card from Compaq (HP) that does the job. Regards, /Allan -----Original Message----- From: Joe Acquisto [mailto:ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu] Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 2:44 PM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: SSL speedup (Oops, address book editing error, sorry for sending this to "old list" joea) Testing SSL for GroupWise Webaccess, shows that, at dial up speeds, the loading of images is slower than non SSL, to an annoying degree. While Apache/Tomcat (NW6, sp2 and GW6, sp2, vanilla install) is significantly faster (apparently) than NES, it may yet generate complaints. Hints to speed this up? Is it even possible? ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- "Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it" http://www.congress.org http://www.tompaine.com --------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu Mon Dec 2 15:41:22 2002 From: ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 10:41:22 -0500 Subject: SSL only on apache Message-ID: >>On NW6, sp2, apache (only) and tomcat33, how to setup >>apache to respond on SSL ports only? >> >>TID searches are not giving me much. I guess I could just not listen >>on 80, but there must be more elegant ways. Google too, but mostly >'nix >>specific. >> >>And, while I'm at it, I'm looking for ways to enable "login" on only >>one or two directories, below "doc root". I could do this easily on NES >>by not making them "public" (NES admin server), but this required >having >>them in a another folder, not under the "doc root". >> >>----------------------------------------- >>Joe Acquisto >>SUNY New Paltz >>845-257-3134 (V) >>845-257-6900 (F) >------------- > http://www.apache.org/ as well as the same thing in your server's >htdocs subdirectory. It is all Apache work here, not NetWare's. > Learn about (the real file system), and > (what the incoming URL looks like) and so on >directives. It seems more fun, that's for sure. >It's more powerful that NES mechanisms. > Don't bother trying SSL with virtual servers; SSL is the wrong >mechanism for that. > Joe D. Not sure what you mean. I defined a virtual server for port 80 and do a rewrite to the SSL location. Is this not supposed to work, or is there something I am missing? I know (learn by failing, ouch) that SSL cannot be defined within a virtual server, if that is what you meant. Also found that removing the "-s" option when starting Apache, not only gives nice load messages on its own screen, but is also handy for learning about some load time errors, such as invalid commands and such. joea/ From bcb at mail.klingner.com Mon Dec 2 15:49:56 2002 From: bcb at mail.klingner.com (Bryan C. Bross) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 09:49:56 -0600 Subject: SSL only on apache In-Reply-To: Message-ID: set novell digest -----Original Message----- From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu]On Behalf Of Joe Acquisto Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 9:41 AM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: Re: SSL only on apache >>On NW6, sp2, apache (only) and tomcat33, how to setup >>apache to respond on SSL ports only? >> >>TID searches are not giving me much. I guess I could just not listen >>on 80, but there must be more elegant ways. Google too, but mostly >'nix >>specific. >> >>And, while I'm at it, I'm looking for ways to enable "login" on only >>one or two directories, below "doc root". I could do this easily on NES >>by not making them "public" (NES admin server), but this required >having >>them in a another folder, not under the "doc root". >> >>----------------------------------------- >>Joe Acquisto >>SUNY New Paltz >>845-257-3134 (V) >>845-257-6900 (F) >------------- > http://www.apache.org/ as well as the same thing in your server's >htdocs subdirectory. It is all Apache work here, not NetWare's. > Learn about (the real file system), and > (what the incoming URL looks like) and so on >directives. It seems more fun, that's for sure. >It's more powerful that NES mechanisms. > Don't bother trying SSL with virtual servers; SSL is the wrong >mechanism for that. > Joe D. Not sure what you mean. I defined a virtual server for port 80 and do a rewrite to the SSL location. Is this not supposed to work, or is there something I am missing? I know (learn by failing, ouch) that SSL cannot be defined within a virtual server, if that is what you meant. Also found that removing the "-s" option when starting Apache, not only gives nice load messages on its own screen, but is also handy for learning about some load time errors, such as invalid commands and such. joea/ _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From john at wdigitech.com Mon Dec 2 15:59:49 2002 From: john at wdigitech.com (John Davis) Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 10:59:49 -0500 Subject: Fwd: WMRUNDLL gone nuts Message-ID: Find another PC of the same hardware config and ghost it. Regards, John Davis MCNE6, MCSE, CCNA, CCDA Chief Technologist Western Digitech, Inc 305-669-0119 john at wdigitech.com http://westerndigitech.com >>> rmoletti at ops.org 12/2/2002 10:05:30 AM >>> From: rmoletti at ops.org Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 10:05 AM To: Subject: Fwd: WMRUNDLL gone nuts Priority: Normal I have a single W2K with 4.83 client on which wmrundll is running is pegging the computer utilization at 99% and has been doing so since last Wed. You can't end task the process, I've tried removing the client and reinstalling and searched the KB but nothing relates to this problem. Any suggestions for taming the beast? Rich Molettiere Technology Coordinator Omaha North High School "Technology is not a free lunch." 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URL: http://netlab1.usu.edu/pipermail/novell/attachments/20021202/a445ce54/attachment.html From ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu Mon Dec 2 16:04:24 2002 From: ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 11:04:24 -0500 Subject: SSL speedup Message-ID: >Joe, > >the first hand shake between the client and the server is the most time >consuming activity and where you might notice a significant increase in >CPU-load on the server. >After the keys have been established the continued session does not >load the >server as much as initially. >Although all traffic is encrypted I fail to see the increase in the actual >data being transmitted, apart from a few extra packets with SSL-session >information. > >Still, the above could be a source that you want to check out. On dial-up >the extra information required could have a greater impact than being >suspected. > >To solve the huge impact on the CPU-load there are many Cache and >SSL-accelerators out there that does the job just nicely (Volera and MS >ISA >to mention a few). There is even a add-on card from Compaq (HP) that >does >the job. > >Regards, > >/Allan > Thanks, the info is appreciated. I'm not at all sure, at this point, where the slow down is occuring. What needs to be done is setup dial in access from a location near the server, so I can watch what is happening, and not just conjecture about it. Don't think it is a CPU load thing, as local access (LAN) is quite acceptable. While I don't yet have an answer, other factors are suspect, such as browser version, PC RAM, CPU type and speed, etc. These are potential bottle necks I had not considered. "Blaming" SSL was the easy route. joea/ From AL at gi-zrmk.si Mon Dec 2 16:04:36 2002 From: AL at gi-zrmk.si (Alen Borovicanin) Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 17:04:36 +0100 Subject: remove Message-ID: <3DEB92A5.30405.1B2C749@localhost> ------- Forwarded message follows ------- Date sent: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 11:04:24 -0500 From: "Joe Acquisto" To: Subject: RE: SSL speedup Send reply to: Novell products technical discussion >Joe, > >the first hand shake between the client and the server is the most time >consuming activity and where you might notice a significant increase in >CPU-load on the server. >After the keys have been established the continued session does not >load the server as much as initially. Although all traffic is >encrypted I fail to see the increase in the actual >data being transmitted, apart from a few extra packets with SSL-session >information. > >Still, the above could be a source that you want to check out. On dial-up >the extra information required could have a greater impact than being >suspected. > >To solve the huge impact on the CPU-load there are many Cache and >SSL-accelerators out there that does the job just nicely (Volera and MS >ISA >to mention a few). There is even a add-on card from Compaq (HP) that >does the job. > >Regards, > >/Allan > Thanks, the info is appreciated. I'm not at all sure, at this point, where the slow down is occuring. What needs to be done is setup dial in access from a location near the server, so I can watch what is happening, and not just conjecture about it. Don't think it is a CPU load thing, as local access (LAN) is quite acceptable. While I don't yet have an answer, other factors are suspect, such as browser version, PC RAM, CPU type and speed, etc. These are potential bottle necks I had not considered. "Blaming" SSL was the easy route. joea/ _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo ------- End of forwarded message ------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On > dial-up > >the extra information required could have a greater impact than being > >suspected. > > > >To solve the huge impact on the CPU-load there are many Cache and > >SSL-accelerators out there that does the job just nicely (Volera and > MS > >ISA > >to mention a few). There is even a add-on card from Compaq (HP) that > >does > >the job. > > > >Regards, > > > >/Allan > > > > Thanks, the info is appreciated. > > I'm not at all sure, at this point, where the slow down is occuring. > What needs to be done is setup dial in access from a location near the > server, so I can watch what is happening, and not just > conjecture about > it. > > Don't think it is a CPU load thing, as local access (LAN) is quite > acceptable. > > While I don't yet have an answer, other factors are suspect, such as > browser version, PC RAM, CPU type and speed, etc. These > are potential > bottle necks I had not considered. > > "Blaming" SSL was the easy route. > > joea/ Could it be that once the data is encrypted then the compression techniques used by the modem don't work well as the data is of a more random nature. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://netlab1.usu.edu/pipermail/novell/attachments/20021202/f72ddfcf/attachment.html From ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu Mon Dec 2 16:22:39 2002 From: ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 11:22:39 -0500 Subject: SSL speedup Message-ID: >> >Joe, >> > >> >the first hand shake between the client and the server is the most >> time >> >consuming activity and where you might notice a significant increase >> in >> >CPU-load on the server. >> >After the keys have been established the continued session does not >> >load the >> >server as much as initially. >> >Although all traffic is encrypted I fail to see the increase in the >> actual >> >data being transmitted, apart from a few extra packets with >> SSL-session >> >information. >> > >> >Still, the above could be a source that you want to check out. On >> dial-up >> >the extra information required could have a greater impact than >being >> >suspected. >> > >> >To solve the huge impact on the CPU-load there are many Cache and >> >SSL-accelerators out there that does the job just nicely (Volera and >> MS >> >ISA >> >to mention a few). There is even a add-on card from Compaq (HP) >that >> >does >> >the job. >> > >> >Regards, >> > >> >/Allan >> > >> >> Thanks, the info is appreciated. >> >> I'm not at all sure, at this point, where the slow down is occuring. >> What needs to be done is setup dial in access from a location near the >> server, so I can watch what is happening, and not just >> conjecture about >> it. >> >> Don't think it is a CPU load thing, as local access (LAN) is quite >> acceptable. >> >> While I don't yet have an answer, other factors are suspect, such as >> browser version, PC RAM, CPU type and speed, etc. These >> are potential >> bottle necks I had not considered. >> >> "Blaming" SSL was the easy route. >> >> joea/ > >Could it be that once the data is encrypted then the compression >techniques >used by the modem don't work well as the data is of a more random >nature. An interesting thought. But, mmm, can something be "more random" than something that might already be "random"? joea From A.M.Bell at durham.ac.uk Mon Dec 2 16:28:14 2002 From: A.M.Bell at durham.ac.uk (Bell, Andy) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 16:28:14 -0000 Subject: remove Message-ID: <6E92A7EAEE9CC54EBCF18F43393F2B470E3806@mitsuummrexc001.ms.admin.dur.ac.uk> -----Original Message----- From: Joe Acquisto [mailto:ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu] Sent: 02 December 2002 16:23 To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: RE: SSL speedup >> >Joe, >> > >> >the first hand shake between the client and the server is the most >> time >> >consuming activity and where you might notice a significant increase >> in >> >CPU-load on the server. >> >After the keys have been established the continued session does not >> >load the >> >server as much as initially. >> >Although all traffic is encrypted I fail to see the increase in the >> actual >> >data being transmitted, apart from a few extra packets with >> SSL-session >> >information. >> > >> >Still, the above could be a source that you want to check out. On >> dial-up >> >the extra information required could have a greater impact than >being >> >suspected. >> > >> >To solve the huge impact on the CPU-load there are many Cache and >> >SSL-accelerators out there that does the job just nicely (Volera and >> MS >> >ISA >> >to mention a few). There is even a add-on card from Compaq (HP) >that >> >does >> >the job. >> > >> >Regards, >> > >> >/Allan >> > >> >> Thanks, the info is appreciated. >> >> I'm not at all sure, at this point, where the slow down is occuring. >> What needs to be done is setup dial in access from a location near the >> server, so I can watch what is happening, and not just >> conjecture about >> it. >> >> Don't think it is a CPU load thing, as local access (LAN) is quite >> acceptable. >> >> While I don't yet have an answer, other factors are suspect, such as >> browser version, PC RAM, CPU type and speed, etc. These >> are potential >> bottle necks I had not considered. >> >> "Blaming" SSL was the easy route. >> >> joea/ > >Could it be that once the data is encrypted then the compression >techniques >used by the modem don't work well as the data is of a more random >nature. An interesting thought. But, mmm, can something be "more random" than something that might already be "random"? joea _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From TAntworth at ropesgray.com Mon Dec 2 16:29:41 2002 From: TAntworth at ropesgray.com (Antworth, Terry) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 11:29:41 -0500 Subject: REMOVE Message-ID: <8F71D0DEA37AD611998700065B3B6D1101AC1230@boexnt1> From bylandb at stillwater.k12.mn.us Mon Dec 2 16:31:21 2002 From: bylandb at stillwater.k12.mn.us (Bill Byland) Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 10:31:21 -0600 Subject: remove Message-ID: >>> A.M.Bell at durham.ac.uk 12/02/02 10:28AM >>> -----Original Message----- From: Joe Acquisto [mailto:ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu] Sent: 02 December 2002 16:23 To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: RE: SSL speedup >> >Joe, >> > >> >the first hand shake between the client and the server is the most >> time >> >consuming activity and where you might notice a significant increase >> in >> >CPU-load on the server. >> >After the keys have been established the continued session does not >> >load the >> >server as much as initially. >> >Although all traffic is encrypted I fail to see the increase in the >> actual >> >data being transmitted, apart from a few extra packets with >> SSL-session >> >information. >> > >> >Still, the above could be a source that you want to check out. On >> dial-up >> >the extra information required could have a greater impact than >being >> >suspected. >> > >> >To solve the huge impact on the CPU-load there are many Cache and >> >SSL-accelerators out there that does the job just nicely (Volera and >> MS >> >ISA >> >to mention a few). There is even a add-on card from Compaq (HP) >that >> >does >> >the job. >> > >> >Regards, >> > >> >/Allan >> > >> >> Thanks, the info is appreciated. >> >> I'm not at all sure, at this point, where the slow down is occuring. >> What needs to be done is setup dial in access from a location near the >> server, so I can watch what is happening, and not just >> conjecture about >> it. >> >> Don't think it is a CPU load thing, as local access (LAN) is quite >> acceptable. >> >> While I don't yet have an answer, other factors are suspect, such as >> browser version, PC RAM, CPU type and speed, etc. These >> are potential >> bottle necks I had not considered. >> >> "Blaming" SSL was the easy route. >> >> joea/ > >Could it be that once the data is encrypted then the compression >techniques >used by the modem don't work well as the data is of a more random >nature. An interesting thought. But, mmm, can something be "more random" than something that might already be "random"? joea _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From JRD at cc.usu.edu Mon Dec 2 17:15:29 2002 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 10:15:29 -0700 (MST) Subject: Hint on unsub Message-ID: <01KPJWUEU3R691X8VA@cc.usu.edu> Folks who wish to unsubscribe from the list should remember to address traffic to novell-request at netlab1.usu.edu, not to the list of people. Because we moved the subscription list we also made it easy to cope with the transition by allowing folks to continue without registration to the new list. Soon we will have to bring that part to a close. In the meanwhile please visit the web page at http://netlab1.usu.edu/ and follow the admin portions to get onto the list. Once on then you can get off without the administrator person (me) dealing with the details by hand, one by one. It's a small bother, yet it helps a lot here. Thanks, Joe D. From Joe.Billmeyer at FinleyHospital.org Mon Dec 2 16:55:59 2002 From: Joe.Billmeyer at FinleyHospital.org (Joe Billmeyer) Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 10:55:59 -0600 Subject: remove Message-ID: >>> A.M.Bell at durham.ac.uk 12/02/02 10:28AM >>> -----Original Message----- From: Joe Acquisto [mailto:ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu] Sent: 02 December 2002 16:23 To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: RE: SSL speedup >> >Joe, >> > >> >the first hand shake between the client and the server is the most >> time >> >consuming activity and where you might notice a significant increase >> in >> >CPU-load on the server. >> >After the keys have been established the continued session does not >> >load the >> >server as much as initially. >> >Although all traffic is encrypted I fail to see the increase in the >> actual >> >data being transmitted, apart from a few extra packets with >> SSL-session >> >information. >> > >> >Still, the above could be a source that you want to check out. On >> dial-up >> >the extra information required could have a greater impact than >being >> >suspected. >> > >> >To solve the huge impact on the CPU-load there are many Cache and >> >SSL-accelerators out there that does the job just nicely (Volera and >> MS >> >ISA >> >to mention a few). There is even a add-on card from Compaq (HP) >that >> >does >> >the job. >> > >> >Regards, >> > >> >/Allan >> > >> >> Thanks, the info is appreciated. >> >> I'm not at all sure, at this point, where the slow down is occuring. >> What needs to be done is setup dial in access from a location near the >> server, so I can watch what is happening, and not just >> conjecture about >> it. >> >> Don't think it is a CPU load thing, as local access (LAN) is quite >> acceptable. >> >> While I don't yet have an answer, other factors are suspect, such as >> browser version, PC RAM, CPU type and speed, etc. These >> are potential >> bottle necks I had not considered. >> >> "Blaming" SSL was the easy route. >> >> joea/ > >Could it be that once the data is encrypted then the compression >techniques >used by the modem don't work well as the data is of a more random >nature. An interesting thought. But, mmm, can something be "more random" than something that might already be "random"? joea _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://netlab1.usu.edu/pipermail/novell/attachments/20021202/f1304951/attachment.htm From JRD at cc.usu.edu Tue Dec 3 04:19:10 2002 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 21:19:10 -0700 (MST) Subject: A helpful hint on a Novell product Message-ID: <01KPKJYNA5CI91X9TZ@cc.usu.edu> I see almost no mention of this Novell product, and it is buried deeply in other documentation, yet it is a nifty useful tool. It is the current Novell search engine present in NW 6. It is a vastly improved item from earlier days. You may notice that I grabbed it to provide the search engine for the list's archives. I made that change Sunday evening after a couple of weeks trying to get other engines to do a decent job on large email archives. The archives reside on one machine, the search engine is on another, yet they work together very rapidly indeed. It is a tool we have at no extra cost, works well, and can be used across the net. Finding alternatives is not easy, most free ones are worth their price, and here we have a good one just sitting waiting for work to do. Keep it in mind. Joe D. From rmoletti at ops.org Tue Dec 3 13:02:56 2002 From: rmoletti at ops.org (Rich Molettiere) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 07:02:56 -0600 Subject: Additional resource for school network admins Message-ID: The CoolSolutions School Admins site is now officially open for business. This site, prepared and hosted by the same folks that do the Cool Solutions sites for Novell, sports a different interface and addresses primarily Novell issues faced by schools. School network admins will find much of value especially as it relates to addressing issues faced by schools. http://www.coolsolutions.com/ Rich Molettiere Technology Coordinator Omaha North High School "Technology is not a free lunch." From larry_burd at compuserve.com Tue Dec 3 13:17:35 2002 From: larry_burd at compuserve.com (Larry Burd) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 08:17:35 -0500 Subject: list question Message-ID: <200212030817_MC3-1-1DD0-436@compuserve.com> so why do I NOW get mail from 2 different lists???? From geoffc at YorkU.CA Tue Dec 3 14:03:07 2002 From: geoffc at YorkU.CA (Geoffrey Carman) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 09:03:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: A helpful hint on a Novell product In-Reply-To: <01KPKJYNA5CI91X9TZ@cc.usu.edu> Message-ID: uOn Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Joe Doupnik wrote: > I see almost no mention of this Novell product, and it is buried > deeply in other documentation, yet it is a nifty useful tool. It is the > current Novell search engine present in NW 6. It is a vastly improved > item from earlier days. It also reads the content of PDF's, Word docs, Wordperfect and a number of other formats, to index within them as well. So you can have it look at a volume on your server, and use it internally as a search engine for your document collections... A very nice tool. --- Geoffrey Carman York University geoffc at yorku.ca From acquistj at lan.newpaltz.edu Tue Dec 3 14:50:59 2002 From: acquistj at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 09:50:59 -0500 Subject: A helpful hint on a Novell product Message-ID: Indeed interesting, folks. I'd been wanting to look at this for a while. joea/ ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- "Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it" http://www.congress.org http://www.tompaine.com --------------------------------------------------- >>> geoffc at YorkU.CA 12/03/02 09:03 AM >>> uOn Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Joe Doupnik wrote: > I see almost no mention of this Novell product, and it is buried > deeply in other documentation, yet it is a nifty useful tool. It is the > current Novell search engine present in NW 6. It is a vastly improved > item from earlier days. It also reads the content of PDF's, Word docs, Wordperfect and a number of other formats, to index within them as well. So you can have it look at a volume on your server, and use it internally as a search engine for your document collections... A very nice tool. --- Geoffrey Carman York University geoffc at yorku.ca _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From btoulou at xn-tech.com Tue Dec 3 01:54:10 2002 From: btoulou at xn-tech.com (btoulou at xn-tech.com) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 17:54:10 -0800 Subject: slow backups after 4.83 client installed Message-ID: I've got a curious problem. We put in our first nw 5.1 server that is intended to replace our backup server running arcserveIT 6.6. Everything with the new server is running well (backups and NDPS). The new server is patched to sp5, arcserveIT6.6 same as old server, NDPS was added. All the NT 4.0 workstations that I've upgraded the new client to and also changed frame type from 802.3 to Ethernet_II, added NDPS, and workstation manager to have increased the backup time per workstation by 15 minutes each. Needless to say my once adequate backup window has been shattered. All NT 4.0 workstations that have not been changed have not shown the increase in backup time. I've back rev'ed the client to 4.81 and no difference. I know this has to be related to the clients because there is no change in backup time between NW servers, NT servers and NT clients that have not been changed. 95/98 clients that have upgraded clients to 3.32sp1 appear to be unaffected as well. Any suggestions would be most appreciated. Brady From seanb at prophet.mb.ca Tue Dec 3 15:58:30 2002 From: seanb at prophet.mb.ca (Sean Beggs) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 09:58:30 -0600 Subject: A helpful hint on a Novell product References: <01KPKJYNA5CI91X9TZ@cc.usu.edu> Message-ID: <3DECD4A6.3060802@prophet.mb.ca> Hey, Joe I may have missed the original message, but I don't seem to see the actual product you refer to in your message. Which product are you referring to? - Sean Joe Doupnik wrote: > I see almost no mention of this Novell product, and it is buried >deeply in other documentation, yet it is a nifty useful tool. It is the >current Novell search engine present in NW 6. It is a vastly improved >item from earlier days. > You may notice that I grabbed it to provide the search engine >for the list's archives. I made that change Sunday evening after a couple >of weeks trying to get other engines to do a decent job on large email >archives. The archives reside on one machine, the search engine is on >another, yet they work together very rapidly indeed. > It is a tool we have at no extra cost, works well, and can be >used across the net. Finding alternatives is not easy, most free ones >are worth their price, and here we have a good one just sitting waiting >for work to do. Keep it in mind. > Joe D. >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > > > From Phillip at microwing.com Tue Dec 3 16:34:45 2002 From: Phillip at microwing.com (Phillip Altmaier) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 08:34:45 -0800 Subject: Interesting server error message Message-ID: I have a NW6 server running the current patch. This morning I find it has locked itself quite well. My only recourse was to hit the reset button. As it was reloading it again locked up. But I was able to discover just when it was locking. After it loads my GroupWise antivirus checker, GWAVA it locked up tight! The next go around I did not load any GroupWise NLM's on boot ant it worked just fine. As I loaded GroupWise manually, I jumped back to the console screen and found these errors...just before it Locked again... Free detected corrupt preceding redzone for node 0xB390A0C0 node size 120 promptly followed by Free detected corrupt trailing redzone Then it locked. Now I am running without GWAVA and not a single problem, till the next virus invasion anyway... This system has been working flawlessly for the past 30 days. Why would this happen just out of the blue??? I did some checking in the knowledge base and it points to a memory location being overwritten, or stepped on, by another module. But I haven't added or changed ANYTHNG!! This system has one gig of RAM. Monitor does not show its having any memory problems. And the TID's state that NetWare should be able to recover from this type of error without issue. Any ideas ?? Even from the peanut gallery....? :) Thanks! Phil From dtran at ssc.ucla.edu Tue Dec 3 16:55:08 2002 From: dtran at ssc.ucla.edu (Daniel Tran) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 08:55:08 -0800 Subject: Adding Extra Storage to a PS/2 Novel 3.12 Server In-Reply-To: <2rnP4ZA07N79Ewha@longley.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <000101c29aec$bcab0880$49e56180@hp1> wow . PS/2 model 95. External or internal drive addition must be terminated correctly. - Internal drive: Terminate at the controller and at the last SCSI device in the SCSI bus. - External drive: Don't terminate at the controller. Terminate at the last device on the "internal" SCSI bus and terminate at the last device on the "external" bus. - You may have to run the reference disk to let the system aware of the new scsi device. - When done, boot up the server, run the disk utility (is it load install --> disk ??), create new netware partition, create volume .... Daniel - dtran at ssc.ucla.edu > -----Original Message----- > From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU] > On Behalf Of David Longley > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 8:42 AM > To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU > Subject: Adding Extra Storage to a PS/2 Novel 3.12 Server > > > I need to add extra storage to a PS/2 3.12 server. This will > probably have to be an extra SCSI drive (external). The > present system has an IBM PS/2 95 RAID array of 4 x 1GB disks > configured as 1GB. What will I need to do to get an extra > INTERNAL or external drive recognised? > -- > David Longley > From JRD at cc.usu.edu Tue Dec 3 17:00:50 2002 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 10:00:50 -0700 (MST) Subject: A helpful hint on a Novell product Message-ID: <01KPLAAAO63C91X878@cc.usu.edu> >Hey, Joe > >I may have missed the original message, but I don't seem to see the >actual product you refer to in your message. Which product are you >referring to? > > >- Sean ---------- I told you it was a hidden feature/crouching benefit. The Novell search engine lives in sys:nsearch on NW 6 machinery. It is documented in the NW 6 material. It is vastly under appreciated. Clever and devious managers will ask how to make it work and find out by doing a "view source" on my web paging point to it. Like this: Search the list's archives The key pathway is http://.../Nsearch/SearchServlet, with qualifiers. It is an alias in the NW Apache configuration material. This is the user side of it. The admin side is exposed nicely in the regular NW 6 home page ("This is NW 6" etc with left side menu bar). Take a look at what I have done. Ask just how fast is it to do a lookup when we have the search engine and index on NW and the actual text files on another machine (netlab1). This is not small stuff either. Joe D. ----------- >>Joe Doupnik wrote: > >> I see almost no mention of this Novell product, and it is buried >>deeply in other documentation, yet it is a nifty useful tool. It is the >>current Novell search engine present in NW 6. It is a vastly improved >>item from earlier days. >> You may notice that I grabbed it to provide the search engine >>for the list's archives. I made that change Sunday evening after a couple >>of weeks trying to get other engines to do a decent job on large email >>archives. The archives reside on one machine, the search engine is on >>another, yet they work together very rapidly indeed. >> It is a tool we have at no extra cost, works well, and can be >>used across the net. Finding alternatives is not easy, most free ones >>are worth their price, and here we have a good one just sitting waiting >>for work to do. Keep it in mind. >> Joe D. From dtran at ssc.ucla.edu Tue Dec 3 17:01:36 2002 From: dtran at ssc.ucla.edu (Daniel Tran) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 09:01:36 -0800 Subject: Adding Extra Storage to a PS/2 Novel 3.12 Server In-Reply-To: <000101c29aec$bcab0880$49e56180@hp1> Message-ID: <000201c29aed$a3d1d680$49e56180@hp1> Forgot one more thing. Make sure you have enough memory. Additional disk space requires more memory especially when you have various name spaces in it. Daniel > -----Original Message----- > From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu > [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Daniel Tran > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 8:55 AM > To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu > Subject: RE: Adding Extra Storage to a PS/2 Novel 3.12 Server > > > wow . PS/2 model 95. > External or internal drive addition must be terminated correctly. > > - Internal drive: Terminate at the controller and at the > last SCSI device in the SCSI bus. > - External drive: Don't terminate at the controller. > Terminate at the last device on the "internal" SCSI bus and > terminate at the last device on the "external" bus. > > - You may have to run the reference disk to let the system > aware of the new scsi device. > - When done, boot up the server, run the disk utility (is it > load install --> disk ??), create new netware partition, > create volume .... > > Daniel - dtran at ssc.ucla.edu > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU] > > On Behalf Of David Longley > > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 8:42 AM > > To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU > > Subject: Adding Extra Storage to a PS/2 Novel 3.12 Server > > > > > > I need to add extra storage to a PS/2 3.12 server. This will > > probably have to be an extra SCSI drive (external). The > > present system has an IBM PS/2 95 RAID array of 4 x 1GB disks > > configured as 1GB. What will I need to do to get an extra > > INTERNAL or external drive recognised? > > -- > > David Longley > > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > From maryve1 at starpower.net Wed Dec 4 03:32:07 2002 From: maryve1 at starpower.net (Mary Van Engelen) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 22:32:07 -0500 Subject: iFolder 2 Client Cannot Login Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20021203222159.00b17cb0@pop.starpower.net> Now that I have eDir installed, I was finally able to login to the global settings on the iFolder management console. I enabled several users while I was in there including myself. Then I installed the client on my W2K computer, but I can't login. The error is 105 unable to connect to server. I can find only two TIDs on this. One has to do with Windows XP and, obviously, the installation of a client outside the firewall. This does not apply. The other one was on adding the CN property to the Public with Read, Compare and Inheritable rights. I did this and still cannot login. I got the same message when I installed the client on a Win98 computer. Does anyone have any clues on what else I could do to troubleshoot this? Thanx, Mary From JRD at cc.usu.edu Wed Dec 4 03:49:16 2002 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 20:49:16 -0700 (MST) Subject: iFolder 2 Client Cannot Login Message-ID: <01KPLX6T9QAG91XB9N@cc.usu.edu> >Now that I have eDir installed, I was finally able to login to the global >settings on the iFolder management console. I enabled several users while I >was in there including myself. Then I installed the client on my W2K >computer, but I can't login. The error is 105 unable to connect to server. > >I can find only two TIDs on this. One has to do with Windows XP and, >obviously, the installation of a client outside the firewall. This does not >apply. The other one was on adding the CN property to the Public with Read, >Compare and Inheritable rights. I did this and still cannot login. I got >the same message when I installed the client on a Win98 computer. > >Does anyone have any clues on what else I could do to troubleshoot this? > >Thanx, >Mary -------- "No log in" meaning the iFolder authentication step, I presume. Two guesses (it works here; ergo, no problem exists...). Might you have IP packet filters between client and server? Second guess is on LDAP configuration, typically using an inappropriate context for searching. LDAP is a bear to debug, so a quicky kludge (caps please) is create an LDAP proxy way up high and give it read/compare rights to the whole tree. You should also visit with ConsoleOne and turn on LDAP debug reporting to watch the action. A further hint is ensure the IP addressing stuff is correct from the outset because iFolder clients get rewritten upon installation and have the server memorized. That's it, I'm out of guesses tonight. Joe D. From maryve1 at starpower.net Wed Dec 4 04:21:17 2002 From: maryve1 at starpower.net (Mary Van Engelen) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 23:21:17 -0500 Subject: iFolder 2 Client Cannot Login In-Reply-To: <01KPLX6T9QAG91XB9N@cc.usu.edu> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20021203230018.00b17f30@pop.starpower.net> Yup, the authentication step. It's the one that initializes the account on iFolder. No IP filters between client and server. It's inside the firewall. Have a DNS server on the same box as BorderManager though. This box is also the default gateway. The iFolder server is defined there with a private IP address. On the box where iFolder is, iFolder server is a secondary IP address. But, the thought just occurred to me that it is possible that I might have a Hosts file on both of these machines with iFolder defined with a different IP address from when we had the older iFolder on another server. I'll check that out. From what you said, I gather that if Hosts file does have the older address, I would have to uninstall/reinstall the client? As for defining a proxy at the highest level, isn't that essentially what Public is? I'll try LDAP debug tomorrow and see what that does. Thanx, Mary At 12/3/2002 10:49 PM, Joe Doupnik wrote: > >Now that I have eDir installed, I was finally able to login to the global > >settings on the iFolder management console. I enabled several users while I > >was in there including myself. Then I installed the client on my W2K > >computer, but I can't login. The error is 105 unable to connect to server. > > > >I can find only two TIDs on this. One has to do with Windows XP and, > >obviously, the installation of a client outside the firewall. This does not > >apply. The other one was on adding the CN property to the Public with Read, > >Compare and Inheritable rights. I did this and still cannot login. I got > >the same message when I installed the client on a Win98 computer. > > > >Does anyone have any clues on what else I could do to troubleshoot this? > > > >Thanx, > >Mary >-------- > "No log in" meaning the iFolder authentication step, I presume. >Two guesses (it works here; ergo, no problem exists...). Might you have >IP packet filters between client and server? Second guess is on LDAP >configuration, typically using an inappropriate context for searching. >LDAP is a bear to debug, so a quicky kludge (caps please) is create >an LDAP proxy way up high and give it read/compare rights to the whole >tree. You should also visit with ConsoleOne and turn on LDAP debug >reporting to watch the action. > A further hint is ensure the IP addressing stuff is correct >from the outset because iFolder clients get rewritten upon installation >and have the server memorized. > That's it, I'm out of guesses tonight. > Joe D. >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From John at coastal.edu Wed Dec 4 14:58:27 2002 From: John at coastal.edu (John Hanna) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 09:58:27 -0500 Subject: List management question In-Reply-To: <01KPEX8UE82G91X5ZB@cc.usu.edu> Message-ID: Joe, Public is fine, but is there a way to alter the e-mail addresses in the archives to keep the spammers from using web-crawlers to gather e-mail addresses? Maybe replacing the @ with a # or something like that so that a human can still determine what the legitimate e-mail address is. >-----Original Message----- >From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of >Joe Doupnik >Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 10:28 PM >To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU >Subject: List management question > > > The relocation of the list to novell at netlab1.usu.edu is >progressing, >but not without the usual small bumps in the road. > The new listserver requires folks to have a password to do >self-admin work, and hopefully one was sent to you. If it did not arrive >or you purged the message then please visit >http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo >and choose one (and your list preferences). > > Until then messages to the list are supposed to be held. Ugh. >So what I am going to do is put the known list of subscribers (us) into >a pass-all filter so we can charge ahead while the password stuff gets >taken care of. Is this OK with the group? > > Second question for the group. Archives of the list are on netlab1, >and we can either make them visible to the general public or hide them >behind a login (that thing again) request. I started private and tonight >switched to public. What is your preference: archives visible to the public >or to only subscribed members? (Posting to the list is by sub only, as >usual). > > As a refresher, >novell at netlab1.usu.edu goes to the list of people >novell-request at netlab1.usu.edu goes to the self-admin list server >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo is the self-help web page > The last is also a click line on netlab1's web home page. >I'll copy this message to the old list too so that everyone sees it. > Thanks, > Joe D. > From John at coastal.edu Wed Dec 4 15:01:55 2002 From: John at coastal.edu (John Hanna) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 10:01:55 -0500 Subject: List management question In-Reply-To: <01KPEX8UE82G91X5ZB@cc.usu.edu> Message-ID: Joe, Public is fine, but is there a way to alter the e-mail addresses in the archives to keep the spammers from using web-crawlers to gather e-mail addresses? Maybe replacing the @ with a # or something like that so that a human can still determine what the legitimate e-mail address is. >-----Original Message----- >From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of >Joe Doupnik >Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 10:28 PM >To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU >Subject: List management question > > > The relocation of the list to novell at netlab1.usu.edu is >progressing, >but not without the usual small bumps in the road. > The new listserver requires folks to have a password to do >self-admin work, and hopefully one was sent to you. If it did not arrive >or you purged the message then please visit >http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo >and choose one (and your list preferences). > > Until then messages to the list are supposed to be held. Ugh. >So what I am going to do is put the known list of subscribers (us) into >a pass-all filter so we can charge ahead while the password stuff gets >taken care of. Is this OK with the group? > > Second question for the group. Archives of the list are on netlab1, >and we can either make them visible to the general public or hide them >behind a login (that thing again) request. I started private and tonight >switched to public. What is your preference: archives visible to the public >or to only subscribed members? (Posting to the list is by sub only, as >usual). > > As a refresher, >novell at netlab1.usu.edu goes to the list of people >novell-request at netlab1.usu.edu goes to the self-admin list server >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo is the self-help web page > The last is also a click line on netlab1's web home page. >I'll copy this message to the old list too so that everyone sees it. > Thanks, > Joe D. > From dtran at ssc.ucla.edu Wed Dec 4 16:33:51 2002 From: dtran at ssc.ucla.edu (Daniel Tran) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 08:33:51 -0800 Subject: NICI problem ?? Message-ID: <001201c29bb2$ee140a90$49e56180@hp1> Hi, Platform is Netware 5.1 with sp5 running Edir 8.6.2 + sp2a I upgraded to NICI 2.4.0 from 2.0.1 When rebooting the system, I get the following message: CSS.NLM initialization waiting for XMGR (0 minutes) NICI is probably not fully installed or XENG did not load after system restart This message appears at system until NICI installation complte but does not indicatate a NICI malfunction I did some searching but did not find anything. Any ideas how to fix this? Thanks Daniel - dtran at ssc.ucla.edu From JRD at cc.usu.edu Wed Dec 4 16:44:20 2002 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 09:44:20 -0700 (MST) Subject: NICI problem Message-ID: <01KPMOF5KHM091XC1Y@cc.usu.edu> >Hi, >Platform is Netware 5.1 with sp5 running Edir 8.6.2 + sp2a >I upgraded to NICI 2.4.0 from 2.0.1 >When rebooting the system, I get the following message: > >CSS.NLM initialization waiting for XMGR (0 minutes) >NICI is probably not fully installed or XENG did not load after system >restart >This message appears at system until NICI installation complte but does >not indicatate a NICI malfunction > >I did some searching but did not find anything. >Any ideas how to fix this? > >Thanks >Daniel - dtran at ssc.ucla.edu --------------- Have a look at licensing, as one item. Remove and reinstall the license to be sure it's known. Also look in c:\netware and see if the crypto file is of the proper flavor, export or US. Try renaming the NW registry file there, a common source of trouble. When booting a properly made server we will get a NICI grumble message similar to yours. It vanishes as more things load, and we ignore it. Joe D. From JRD at cc.usu.edu Wed Dec 4 16:53:00 2002 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 09:53:00 -0700 (MST) Subject: List management question Message-ID: <01KPMOO1H0YY91XC2D@cc.usu.edu> >Joe, > >Public is fine, but is there a way to alter the e-mail addresses in the >archives to keep the spammers from using web-crawlers to gather e-mail >addresses? Maybe replacing the @ with a # or something like that so that a >human can still determine what the legitimate e-mail address is. ------------ After classes this morning I'll reply at some length. At length because this turns out to be an interesting problem which can/does affect sites in general (not just listserver stuff). I'll explain the problem technically and we can discuss possible solutions. It's a network services thing. I faced it squarely when setting up the current listserver; I would rather have ducked it. Right now I have to get ready for the next class, discussing networked file systems in the round. A little AFS here, some NFS there, CIFS sprinkled in, NW present too, and so on through the various ways folks have tried. Joe D. From dtran at ssc.ucla.edu Wed Dec 4 16:55:42 2002 From: dtran at ssc.ucla.edu (Daniel Tran) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 08:55:42 -0800 Subject: NICI problem In-Reply-To: <01KPMOF5KHM091XC1Y@cc.usu.edu> Message-ID: <001301c29bb5$faeff190$49e56180@hp1> > -----Original Message----- > From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu > [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Joe Doupnik > Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 8:44 AM > To: NOVELL at netlab1.usu.edu > Subject: Re: NICI problem > > > >Hi, > >Platform is Netware 5.1 with sp5 running Edir 8.6.2 + sp2a > >I upgraded to NICI 2.4.0 from 2.0.1 > >When rebooting the system, I get the following message: > > > >CSS.NLM initialization waiting for XMGR (0 minutes) > >NICI is probably not fully installed or XENG did not load > after system > >restart This message appears at system until NICI > installation complte > >but does not indicatate a NICI malfunction > > > >I did some searching but did not find anything. > >Any ideas how to fix this? > > > >Thanks > >Daniel - dtran at ssc.ucla.edu > --------------- > Have a look at licensing, as one item. Remove and > reinstall the license to be sure it's known. Also look in > c:\netware and see if the crypto file is of the proper > flavor, export or US. Try renaming the NW registry file > there, a common source of trouble. > When booting a properly made server we will get a NICI > grumble message similar to yours. It vanishes as more things > load, and we ignore it. > Joe D. > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > Thanks Joe, Licensing appears to be good. c:\nwserver has the proper crypto file - It's domestic. I will reverify both lic. and crypt again . One thing I have not tried is the registry file. I'll rename it and let it build a new one. I still have a copy of all old NICI 2.0.1 stuff. I performed a quick test this morning by backing up all NEW *.XLM and copy back the old NICI material. No error message with old NICI but I did notice that CSS did not stay loaded. Should CSS module remain loaded? Thanks Daniel - dtran at ssc.ucla.edu From dtran at ssc.ucla.edu Wed Dec 4 17:19:39 2002 From: dtran at ssc.ucla.edu (Daniel Tran) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 09:19:39 -0800 Subject: Native file Access & CIFS Message-ID: <001401c29bb9$53ce4fc0$49e56180@hp1> On a newly built netware 6.0 + sp2 and all other applicable patches, I'm having a hard time getting a client to login via cifs using simple password. I can set simple password via console1 or netware remote manager, they appeared to be working (I hope .. since I haven't been able to login yet). >From the client, I can get to the netware server via "windows networking" but cannot login. Supply the username and password just return back to the login window again. Tested from workstation with both c32 and without c32. Same result. I load nmasmon to get the trace (see below). It says LSMCIFS sequence is not valid. I've checked/tried everything without success. Any ideas what I can do to get it to work. Thanks Daniel - dtran at ssc.ucla.edu NMAS Standard Edition 0: Screen and file output started at Tue Dec 3 15:20:44 2002 0: Destroy NMAS Session for reuse 0: Create NMAS Session 0: RemoteCheckIfLocalUser checking dtran.sscnet. 0: RemoteCheckIfLocalUser is a local user. 0: Server thread started 0: >>ServerGet: message size=8 queue size 0 0: >>ClientPut: message size=8 queue Size 0 0: >>ClientPut: message size=7 queue Size 8 0: >>ServerGet: message size=7 queue size 0 0: <>ServerGet: message size=8 queue size 0 0: Client Session Destroy Request 0: Local Session Cleared (Not Destroyed) 0: Server thread exited 1: Create NMAS Session 1: RemoteCheckIfLocalUser checking dtran.SSC.sscnet. 1: ERROR: -601 RemoteCheckIfLocalUser: DDCResolveName ERROR 0 1: ERROR: -601 RemoteCheckIfLocalUser failed. 1: NCPCheckIfLocalUser failed -601 1: Client Session Destroy Request 1: Destroy NMAS Session 1: Aborted Session Destroyed (with MAF) From toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee Wed Dec 4 18:57:01 2002 From: toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee (Toomas Aas) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 20:57:01 +0200 Subject: Edir & NAM In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200212041858.gB4IwPe27214@lv.raad.tartu.ee> Hi! > Even having to create the shares on the Win2K box, but being able to > use NDS to add them to the group that points to the share would be > close enough to what we want to do. I can do *that* even with Novell's ancient "Novell Administrator for NT" (released 1997). I bet it (and more) is possible with eDir for Win, but I'm too cheap to buy it and find out :-) Just wanted to give you some encouragement. -- Toomas Aas | toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee | http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/ * If you leave me, can i come too? From JRD at cc.usu.edu Wed Dec 4 19:05:57 2002 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 12:05:57 -0700 (MST) Subject: Access to docs across the net Message-ID: <01KPMSDX8B5491XC61@cc.usu.edu> We have mentioned the conundrum of making the list's archives public or keeping them hidden behind a login. The vote was public, but some folks are concerned the data will be mined for email addresses by the bottom feeders of the world. This is a typical listserver problem. But more importantly, it is an example of a much more important problem of offering services over the network. Let's explore the problem. We have a server accessible from the Internet offering services to the public and to private groups. We don't want to mix the two. The simplististic solution is to put up a login box for the private guys. Usually we forget those things unless we use them often. We dislike having a large pile of such credentials. And smart people do not let Windows remember them for us. A listserver is a curious subset because some operate by looking at your email address alone. They don't say whether that is the SMTP envelope address or the text visible in SMTP headers. The latter are trivially forged. This does work, however, and the user need not bother about filling in a login box. Alas, the obverse is we must operate from that identical address all the time. Other listservers use the header email address and a password. The idea is headers can be forged by children and the password is further defense. The password will be sent only to the registered email address if you forget. The advantage is we can login and change our credentials if we supply both credentials. Zoom back to the Internet and its wealth of services. How does a server know who we (client) are? Can we move around? Can we change our information? And for us system managers, just how in the blazes are all of our exposed applications going to access credential information? It's a mess, and a real puzzle. I faced this with the new listserver's archives. One app, the search engine, demonstrated the problem. It has no notion of credentials and it is not tied to other apps which might. The only shield is to place the engine behind an app which validates us, and that can be awkward (remembering credentials etc). It gets more awkward when that engine has to acquire its data by behaving as an external user and look into our machine, as most search engines are designed. In the case of such engines its reports to users about summaries need to be in the context of such users, which implies the engine got to data the same way as users or it rewrote its pathway to look as if it did. I created a search engine environment which worked in the shielded case. T'was not easy. Its results were very bare boned on our screens, but it worked. We changed to public access, and now better search engines could look in as public users and offer indices in very useful ways. Alas, anyone can do the same. Interposing credentials by the search engine is a very iffy thing, most often not available or working. In any case, the search app is credential-challenged, as they say, and protection must occur by other means. What users really want is transparency, none of this popup box stuff. They want shielding from the general public at the same time. Houston, we have a problem. A few years ago Novell made much of DigitalMe, a repository of personal information which could be delivered automatically to selected remote machines with our prior permission. It worked, it was a very clever concept. The downsides are we have to talk to the net through it as a proxy, and it isn't free. But it certainly is a good start on pooling credential information and free users of the interruptions. It is on the user's side of the equation, not the server's side. In general there isn't a foolproof way of verifying we are who we say we are, particularly if "we" is just a computer. Lots of proposals, no real solutions. Now to the bottom feeders. Those folks can be determined, not very bright but persistent. Our archives are setup as public at this time yet there are some bumps in the road which can confuse robots. Humans hardly notice them. This is with prior intention. That's a help, not foolproof by any means. Heck, some bad guys subscribe and become part of the group for as long as it suits their purposes; we don't have an admissions human (could have, easy to arrange, but a big bother for said human, me). I have given up trying to protect my email address, long ago. It's not worth trying. There are far too many ways of getting to me. My defense is simply delete the distractions and keep going, look the other way during TV commercials and keep going. I expect to see real addresses from folks talking with me, else I disconnect them. Each subscriber has the option to cause his/her list email address to be distorted/munged. Check you options settings. Many folks will react as I do which is rejection. But it is your choice. I can't rewrite the archives without a major investment in my time, and I don't have free time this year. We can reverse course and go back to the lesser search engine located behind a login box, I can do that quickly. But it will make our work more awkward. So, that's a disjointed rambling view of authentication, or not, for Inetnet services. It is a general problem, it has no easy simple solutions. Joe D. From ValleyJR at mps.k12.mi.us Wed Dec 4 19:25:04 2002 From: ValleyJR at mps.k12.mi.us (Jeramey Valley) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 14:25:04 -0500 Subject: Access to docs across the net In-Reply-To: <01KPMSDX8B5491XC61@cc.usu.edu> References: <01KPMSDX8B5491XC61@cc.usu.edu> Message-ID: At 12:05 -0700 12/4/02, Joe Doupnik wrote: >We can reverse course and go back to the >lesser search engine located behind a login box, I can do that quickly. >But it will make our work more awkward. I'd rather see this setup. The search engine won't do me much - I have 6 years of this list on my local drive and will search there for anything I need. At least half of the other lists I'm on require this authentication deal to gain access to the archives; I can deal with that, it's part of my job. Thanks for your work on all of this, Joe. -- /Jeramey Valley From bud at moldriteplastics.com Wed Dec 4 19:43:15 2002 From: bud at moldriteplastics.com (Bud Durland) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 14:43:15 -0500 Subject: Edir & NAM References: <200212041858.gB4IwPe27214@lv.raad.tartu.ee> Message-ID: <3DEE5AD3.30802@moldriteplastics.com> Toomas Aas wrote: >> Even having to create the shares on the Win2K box, but being able to >>use NDS to add them to the group that points to the share would be >>close enough to what we want to do. >> >> > >I can do *that* even with Novell's ancient "Novell Administrator for >NT" (released 1997). I bet it (and more) is possible with eDir for Win, >but I'm too cheap to buy it and find out :-) Just wanted to give you >some encouragement. > > From what I understand, that is *not* possible with just eDir installed on the Windows box. As it was explained to me by my Novell sales rep, you put eDir on the Windows server as the base component to enable other products. Apparently, by it self, eDir on Windows doesn't do much. My specific requirement was that I have a WIn2K server running only SQLServer 2K (no shared file/print). It uses windows authentication when a user connects to the db server, so right now I'm maintaining 2 separate user lists, and there's no synchronization of passwords. I thought eDir on it's own would solve the problem, but I'm told I need to also install Account Manager. This makes the $$ add up quickly. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- You have to stay in shape. My grandmother, she started walking five miles a day when she was 60. She's 97 today and we doesn't know where the hell she is. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Bud Durland, CNE Mold-Rite Plastics Network Administrator http://www.mrpcap.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- From jfast at dsd.tas.gov.au Wed Dec 4 20:48:36 2002 From: jfast at dsd.tas.gov.au (jfast at dsd.tas.gov.au) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 07:48:36 +1100 Subject: Edir & NAM Message-ID: As an aside to this thread, I was talking to my Account Manager yesterday and from what he told me was the next version of Netware which is due middle of next year, it will or supposedly will ship with dirXML drivers for AD & NAM, however I cannot wait that long and need a solution within weeks so will have to go with NAM 3.0 as well as eDir. John Tasmania, Australia Toomas Aas wrote: >> Even having to create the shares on the Win2K box, but being able to >>use NDS to add them to the group that points to the share would be >>close enough to what we want to do. >> >> > >I can do *that* even with Novell's ancient "Novell Administrator for >NT" (released 1997). I bet it (and more) is possible with eDir for Win, >but I'm too cheap to buy it and find out :-) Just wanted to give you >some encouragement. > > From what I understand, that is *not* possible with just eDir installed on the Windows box. As it was explained to me by my Novell sales rep, you put eDir on the Windows server as the base component to enable other products. Apparently, by it self, eDir on Windows doesn't do much. My specific requirement was that I have a WIn2K server running only SQLServer 2K (no shared file/print). It uses windows authentication when a user connects to the db server, so right now I'm maintaining 2 separate user lists, and there's no synchronization of passwords. I thought eDir on it's own would solve the problem, but I'm told I need to also install Account Manager. This makes the $$ add up quickly. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- You have to stay in shape. My grandmother, she started walking five miles a day when she was 60. She's 97 today and we doesn't know where the hell she is. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Bud Durland, CNE Mold-Rite Plastics Network Administrator http://www.mrpcap.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From dtran at ssc.ucla.edu Wed Dec 4 22:01:24 2002 From: dtran at ssc.ucla.edu (Daniel Tran) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 14:01:24 -0800 Subject: NMAS, NICI, CIFS, Simple Passwords, et all. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002301c29be0$afe4c420$49e56180@hp1> Al, Similar problem with CIFS here. What is your nmasmon trace tells you? load nmasmon * sys:\public\nmastrace.txt trunc Attempt to do a cifs login (where it will fail) unload nmasmon and look at the tracefile. Let's compare yours and mine. I think they will be the same. My system is very similar to yours. I don't get the -1418 error message saving simple password. The server (nw6 in this case) running NFA should have a R/W copy of replica containing the partion of the user. Let's connect to see if we can work this out. I've been at this for 3 days now. BTW, sub to the listserv new address. Daniel > -----Original Message----- > From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU] > On Behalf Of Al Bray > Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 1:42 PM > To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU > Subject: NMAS, NICI, CIFS, Simple Passwords, et all. > > > I have been struggeling to try and get CIFS working correctly > with Simple Passwords ever since we upgraded all of our > server to Netware 6. > > Current environment is Netware 6, SP2, Novell eDirectorv > Version 8.6.2 and NICI 2.4 installed. We have an Novell > Academic License agreement with a Netware 6 Unlimited User > elicense 128+ MLA License Diskette. The licenses have been > installed in both the Root of our Organization and also in > the OU Container where the servers reside. > > CIFS will work with Domain Authentication active but does not > work correctly with Local authentication. > > NMAN mon will spit back a Error: 1642 Login Method error > message when trying to access the Netware share. > > When I try to create Simple Passwords on a user account > through ConsoleOne 1.3.3 I get a -1418 Error saving the > simple password for "user" to the directory. > > Try to set the password from Remote Manager on one of my > servers spits back the same -1418 error message. However > when I set it through Remote Manager on a different server, > it goes through and I can authenticate. If I go back to the > first serve I was having problems with and try to set the > simple password again....I not only get the -1418 error, but > it seems to corrupt the simple password that was set before > on the different server. > > I have looked over and followed the instructions in TID > 10071163 but this doesn't seem to correct the problem. > > I found (though older and talking about Netware 5) mentioned > something about the NICIFK file that is stored in the > sys:system directory and is suppose to be copied from the > licensing diskette duriing the initial server installation. > On the server I am having problems with, the file info is > > NICIFK 13,440 Bytes dated Sunday, April 28, 2002, 8:35:46 PM. > > When I check the Netware Version and Copyright information I get > > Version 1.00 Thursday, May 07, 1998 > Copyright 1998 Novell, Inc. All rights reserved. > Netware 5.0 Digitally Signed Object Container > > > When I check the NICIFK file on my other two servers, I get the > following: > > NICIFK 13,440 Bytes Created Friday, October 05, 2001, 6:33:06am > > The netware version information is the same as above. > > The first server (the one with the newer NICIFK file) is the > server that host the CA, and I seem to remember this file > needing to be backed up to a floppy and restored during the > Migration Wizard process when this server was being migrated > from 5.1 to 6.0. > > I guess what I am trying to figure out is if it is OK for > these files to have different dates on them on different > servers...is this file in any way involved with the problem I > am having setting simple passwords from Console one (which by > the way is my primary NW Server connection) and from Remote > Manager on this server. > > Any insight would be appreciated. > > > > > > I have been through TID > > =============================== > Al Bray > Systems Analyst > University Services > Michigan State University > Phone: 517-355-0357 Ext. 161 > Fax: 517-353-2024 > email: bray at msu.edu > From pjklist at ekahuna.com Thu Dec 5 09:07:21 2002 From: pjklist at ekahuna.com (Philip J. Koenig) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 01:07:21 -0800 Subject: Intruder lockout log? (NW 5.1) Message-ID: <20021205090722504.AAA523@empty1.ekahuna.com@dyn205.ekahuna.com> I thought that at least once upon a time intruder-lockout events were recorded to the server error log. However I cannot find evidence of this on the 5.1 server I'm working with. I'm trying to lookup a date/time of a recent lockout. There's nothing in the error log and the user properties for the locked-out user only shows the last intruder network MAC address. Am I out of luck? Thanks, Phil -- Philip J. Koenig pjklist at ekahuna.com Electric Kahuna Systems -- Computers & Communications for the New Millenium From cirvis at konts.lv Thu Dec 5 13:01:35 2002 From: cirvis at konts.lv (Gatis Visnevskis) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 15:01:35 +0200 Subject: NDS and LDAP passwords? Message-ID: <3DEF4E2F.6090204@konts.lv> Hi all, Is it possible to sync passwords NDS<->LDAP ?? Both directions? There is product called PasswordSync for Windows. DirXML works fine with LDAP and NT4. But no password sync with LDAP :((( Ideas? Gasha From Dave.Bracken at salfordsoftware.co.uk Thu Dec 5 15:07:07 2002 From: Dave.Bracken at salfordsoftware.co.uk (Dave Bracken) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 15:07:07 +0000 Subject: NDS and LDAP passwords? Message-ID: > Is it possible to sync passwords NDS<->LDAP ?? > Both directions? If you are asking if it is possible to effectively extract an NDS password (ie sync) via LDAP, then no. While you can have 3rd party "password" attributes inside NDS through schema extensions and these may be made available via LDAP, the NDS password itself is not an individual attribute as such but rather a combination of the objects public and private key pairs. Dave ------------------------------------------------ Salford Software Ltd, Lancastrian Office Centre, Talbot Road, Old Trafford, Manchester M32 0FP Tel: +44 (0) 161 906 2299 Fax: +44 (0) 161 906 1003 www.salfordsoftware.co.uk ------------------------------------------------ From chaseli at motion.net Thu Dec 5 16:16:16 2002 From: chaseli at motion.net (Linda) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 10:16:16 -0600 Subject: XP Pro having trouble with Excel spreadsheets on Netware servers References: Message-ID: <3DEF7BD0.BA506A5D@motion.net> We began introducing XP Pro workstations this summer and didn't have any problems until we got to our sites with Novell servers. This problem is only with XP workstations accessing Netware servers. We use Office 97. We've duplicated the problem on Netware 3.12, 4.11 and 5 which are the versions we are using. If Excel is open and if the person opens Windows Explorer and double clicks on a spreadsheet, it comes up in read-only mode saying that is in use by the name of the last person that accessed it. If you cancel and immediately double-click it again, it opens. Workarounds: 1.) close Excel and then double-click the file from explorer. 2.) Open the file from inside Excel. Things that haven't fixed it include applying SP1 and trying both the Microsoft and the Novell clients for Netware. I didn't test changing versions of Office because it is not in the 2003 budget. Any ideas? Thanks! Linda Chase From larry_burd at compuserve.com Thu Dec 5 16:19:18 2002 From: larry_burd at compuserve.com (Larry Burd) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 11:19:18 -0500 Subject: XP Pro having trouble with Excel spreadsheets on Netware servers Message-ID: <200212051119_MC3-1-1E47-ADD3@compuserve.com> I have other problems with win2000 excel spread spreads. office 2000. since applying all the MS updates, printing accoss the novell network with cause excel to crash. it worked fine, before applying all the mS security updates. client 4.80. I tried all the office 2000 sp from sp1 sp2 and sp3. I'm tempted to update the client to 4.83, but for now I removed all the ms security updates from W2K. but that leaves us open to viri... anybody see this ... printing to an HP 4000 NW5.0sp4. From Jim.Mitchell at Strasburger.com Thu Dec 5 16:23:55 2002 From: Jim.Mitchell at Strasburger.com (Jim Mitchell) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 10:23:55 -0600 Subject: Intruder lockout log? (NW 5.1) Message-ID: >>> "Philip J. Koenig" 12/05/02 03:07AM >>> I thought that at least once upon a time intruder-lockout events were recorded to the server error log. However I cannot find evidence of this on the 5.1 server I'm working with. I'm trying to lookup a date/time of a recent lockout. There's nothing in the error log and the user properties for the locked-out user only shows the last intruder network MAC address. Am I out of luck? Thanks, Phil -- Philip J. Koenig pjklist at ekahuna.com Electric Kahuna Systems -- Computers & Communications for the New Millenium Console1 --> User object --> Restrictions tab --> Intruder Lockout subtab If you are using the current version of C1 then that should show the users incorrect login count, Account reset time, and last intruder address. If the connection was IPX, then you'll see the IPX address of their WS, which includes the MAC. If the connection was IP, then you'll see the IP address of their WS. HTH -j _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From JRD at cc.usu.edu Thu Dec 5 16:38:06 2002 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 09:38:06 -0700 (MST) Subject: XP Pro having trouble with Excel spreadsheets on Netware servers Message-ID: <01KPO2KN7LSY91XDTF@cc.usu.edu> >I have other problems with win2000 excel spread spreads. office 2000. >since applying all the MS updates, printing accoss the novell network wit= >h >cause excel to crash. >it worked fine, before applying all the mS security updates. client 4.80= >. >I tried all the office 2000 sp from sp1 sp2 and sp3. I'm tempted to >update the client to 4.83, but for now I removed all the ms security >updates from W2K. but that leaves us open to viri... >anybody see this ... printing to an HP 4000 NW5.0sp4. >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo ------------- Turn off client-side caching, on both client and server. Also do upgrade the client C32. This is an old known problem. Joe D. From cirvis at konts.lv Thu Dec 5 17:40:29 2002 From: cirvis at konts.lv (Gatis Visnevskis) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 19:40:29 +0200 Subject: NDS and LDAP passwords? References: Message-ID: <3DEF8F8D.3090309@konts.lv> Not "cleartext" password. Maybe some HASH? I know, that i can set any password via LDAP interface to NDS. What i want is to transfer new password to OpenLDAP server just after it is changed. Gasha Dave Bracken wrote: >>Is it possible to sync passwords NDS<->LDAP ?? >>Both directions? >> > If you are asking if it is possible to effectively extract an NDS > password (ie sync) via LDAP, then no. > While you can have 3rd party "password" attributes inside NDS through > schema extensions and these may be made available via LDAP, the NDS > password itself is not an individual attribute as such but rather a > combination of the objects public and private key pairs. > > Dave > > ------------------------------------------------ > Salford Software Ltd, > Lancastrian Office Centre, Talbot Road, > Old Trafford, Manchester M32 0FP > Tel: +44 (0) 161 906 2299 > Fax: +44 (0) 161 906 1003 > www.salfordsoftware.co.uk > ------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > From dtran at ssc.ucla.edu Thu Dec 5 18:34:20 2002 From: dtran at ssc.ucla.edu (Daniel Tran) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 10:34:20 -0800 Subject: XP Pro having trouble with Excel spreadsheets on Netware servers In-Reply-To: <3DEF7BD0.BA506A5D@motion.net> Message-ID: <000001c29c8c$ed20a7d0$49e56180@hp1> Check Novell site for the "new file this week" or "beta". If you're using client32 4.31sp1, there is a post sp1 fix for opening multiple files on XP. It may not fix your problem but it's worth taking look. Daniel - dtran at ssc.ucla.edu > -----Original Message----- > From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu > [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Linda > Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 8:16 AM > To: Novell LAN Interest Group > Subject: XP Pro having trouble with Excel spreadsheets on > Netware servers > > > We began introducing XP Pro workstations this summer and > didn't have any problems until we got to our sites with > Novell servers. This problem is only with XP workstations > accessing Netware servers. We use Office 97. We've duplicated > the problem on Netware 3.12, 4.11 and 5 which are the > versions we are using. > > If Excel is open and if the person opens Windows Explorer and > double clicks on a spreadsheet, it comes up in read-only mode > saying that is in use by the name of the last person that > accessed it. If you cancel and immediately double-click it > again, it opens. Workarounds: 1.) close Excel and then > double-click the file from explorer. 2.) Open the file from > inside Excel. > > Things that haven't fixed it include applying SP1 and trying > both the Microsoft and the Novell clients for Netware. I > didn't test changing versions of Office because it is not in > the 2003 budget. > > Any ideas? > Thanks! > Linda Chase > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > From maryve1 at starpower.net Thu Dec 5 21:56:30 2002 From: maryve1 at starpower.net (Mary Van Engelen) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 16:56:30 -0500 Subject: A Virus? Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20021205143741.0200cad8@pop.starpower.net> NW 5.1 sp5 BM 3.6 sp2a (packet filtering, proxy server, static and dynamic NAT'ing, VPN) DNS/DHCP server Notes: "x" used in IP addresses to "protect the innocent" "csis.org" is our domain and it is pushed out with DHCP. Problem: On DNS console, seeing requests from 198.x.x.24 and 198.x.x.61: Query for alternating with queries beginning and ending the same but with 3 lines of characters in between. We tracked down the computers holding the IP addresses and found an msodbc.exe file in Drivers32 (it's a Win98 machine) that had a modified date of 12/2/02, which is when I started seeing this stuff on the DNS console. There are also two folders created on that date "dllcache" and "drivercache". "dllcache" has about 14 *.dll files in it, all of which have eaja.org listed at the top. The rest is jibberish. They all have today's date as the modified date. Has anybody seen or heard of this? Mary From maryve1 at starpower.net Thu Dec 5 23:17:59 2002 From: maryve1 at starpower.net (Mary Van Engelen) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 18:17:59 -0500 Subject: A Virus? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20021205143741.0200cad8@pop.starpower.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20021205175151.0200cc20@pop.starpower.net> Looks like this might be related to a spammer popup ad. We did a search on the computer for files with the same date (12/2/02) and found a URL link (tdra.freewebsitehosting.com) with the exact same time as the dllcache, drivercache, and the files in drivers32. We also figured out that drivers32 is not a normal Win98 folder, so we deleted it and the files and rebooted the system. All is quiet on the DNS console again. I'm gonna block that URL! Mary At 12/5/2002 04:56 PM, Mary Van Engelen wrote: >NW 5.1 sp5 >BM 3.6 sp2a (packet filtering, proxy server, static and dynamic NAT'ing, VPN) >DNS/DHCP server > >Notes: >"x" used in IP addresses to "protect the innocent" >"csis.org" is our domain and it is pushed out with DHCP. > >Problem: >On DNS console, seeing requests from 198.x.x.24 and 198.x.x.61: > >Query for letters...............]jWaa.eaja.org.csis.org> > >alternating with queries beginning and ending the same but with 3 lines of >characters in between. > >We tracked down the computers holding the IP addresses and found an >msodbc.exe file in Drivers32 (it's a Win98 machine) that had a modified >date of 12/2/02, which is when I started seeing this stuff on the DNS >console. There are also two folders created on that date "dllcache" and >"drivercache". "dllcache" has about 14 *.dll files in it, all of which >have eaja.org listed at the top. The rest is jibberish. They all have >today's date as the modified date. > >Has anybody seen or heard of this? > >Mary > > > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From fubarsnafu69 at yahoo.com Fri Dec 6 04:24:59 2002 From: fubarsnafu69 at yahoo.com (Fred James) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 20:24:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: A Virus? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20021205143741.0200cad8@pop.starpower.net> Message-ID: <20021206042459.24911.qmail@web10702.mail.yahoo.com> I don't know about dllcache on a win9x machine, but it is install on a win2000 machine by the OS installation. It cache the win2000 files that where installed. Say for instance you delete the files from the program files\windows media player. the OS will reinstall them from dllcache in less than 10 seconds, or from the SP3 folder if it was installed on PC. This is a real pain. --- Mary Van Engelen wrote: > > NW 5.1 sp5 > BM 3.6 sp2a (packet filtering, proxy server, static and dynamic > NAT'ing, VPN) > DNS/DHCP server > > Notes: > "x" used in IP addresses to "protect the innocent" > "csis.org" is our domain and it is pushed out with DHCP. > > Problem: > On DNS console, seeing requests from 198.x.x.24 and 198.x.x.61: > > Query for letters...............]jWaa.eaja.org.csis.org> > > alternating with queries beginning and ending the same but with 3 > lines of > characters in between. > > We tracked down the computers holding the IP addresses and found an > msodbc.exe file in Drivers32 (it's a Win98 machine) that had a > modified > date of 12/2/02, which is when I started seeing this stuff on the DNS > > console. There are also two folders created on that date "dllcache" > and > "drivercache". "dllcache" has about 14 *.dll files in it, all of > which > have eaja.org listed at the top. The rest is jibberish. They all have > > today's date as the modified date. > > Has anybody seen or heard of this? > > Mary > > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee Fri Dec 6 11:41:08 2002 From: toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee (Toomas Aas) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 13:41:08 +0200 Subject: Xeon DP Message-ID: <200212061142.gB6BgYn17422@lv.raad.tartu.ee> Hi! I'm planning a hardware upgrade of one of our departmental database servers, which is running Sybase SQL Anywhere 8.0.1 on Netware 5.1. Since the CPU currently seems to be the main bottleneck on the old hardware, I'm looking for as fast a CPU as possible The hardware vendor is offering me IBM xSeries 235 serrver with Xeon DP processor. I'm a bit hesitant on how the hyperthreading features of Xeon DP work on Netware 5.1. For those who haven't heard the term "hyperthreading", it's a new technology introduced by Intel that fools software into thinking that one physical CPU is actually two "logical" CPUs, i.e. the OS thinks it's running on dual CPU machine even if there is currently only one CPU installed. We all know about the lack of decent SMP support on Netware. The hardware I'm about to replace is dual PII, and the second CPU is almost never utilized. Sybase SQL Anywhere 8, which supports SMP on any other platform, doesn't on Netware. So I don't want a dual CPU machine, but in case of Xeon DP it seems I'm still effectively getting it, even if I buy it with one CPU. The hardware is Novell Yes certified, so I'm reasonably sure that it will work, but how fast? If one of the "logical" processors in the Xeon DP is never properly utilized, how much (if any) performance will I lose? I'd appreciate comments from anyone running Netware 5.1 on Xeon DP. -- Toomas Aas | toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee | http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/ * Show respect to age. Drink good scotch. From allan.bank at eds.com Fri Dec 6 12:28:48 2002 From: allan.bank at eds.com (Bank, Allan) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 12:28:48 -0000 Subject: Xeon DP Message-ID: <5917FD47436E784D8B08F132F0AC5061AF1393@sessm201> I would recommend that you do a little more background check first. Try to establish why the CPU-0 is taxed on the old machine: * low RAM? * high disc utilization * high LAN traffic * tapes? * GW, routing? * Print & mail etc. RAM is the most important component on a taxed system with medium to high disk utilization. Lower the CPU a few steps and buy more RAM for that money. As for Xeon DP I can't tell you very much. I would not hesitate to downgrade the CPU on the new machine, going away from DP, in favor to more RAM. /A -----Original Message----- From: Toomas Aas [mailto:toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 12:41 PM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: Xeon DP Hi! I'm planning a hardware upgrade of one of our departmental database servers, which is running Sybase SQL Anywhere 8.0.1 on Netware 5.1. Since the CPU currently seems to be the main bottleneck on the old hardware, I'm looking for as fast a CPU as possible The hardware vendor is offering me IBM xSeries 235 serrver with Xeon DP processor. I'm a bit hesitant on how the hyperthreading features of Xeon DP work on Netware 5.1. For those who haven't heard the term "hyperthreading", it's a new technology introduced by Intel that fools software into thinking that one physical CPU is actually two "logical" CPUs, i.e. the OS thinks it's running on dual CPU machine even if there is currently only one CPU installed. We all know about the lack of decent SMP support on Netware. The hardware I'm about to replace is dual PII, and the second CPU is almost never utilized. Sybase SQL Anywhere 8, which supports SMP on any other platform, doesn't on Netware. So I don't want a dual CPU machine, but in case of Xeon DP it seems I'm still effectively getting it, even if I buy it with one CPU. The hardware is Novell Yes certified, so I'm reasonably sure that it will work, but how fast? If one of the "logical" processors in the Xeon DP is never properly utilized, how much (if any) performance will I lose? I'd appreciate comments from anyone running Netware 5.1 on Xeon DP. -- Toomas Aas | toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee | http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/ * Show respect to age. Drink good scotch. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee Fri Dec 6 12:54:00 2002 From: toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee (Toomas Aas) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 14:54:00 +0200 Subject: Xeon DP In-Reply-To: <5917FD47436E784D8B08F132F0AC5061AF1393@sessm201> Message-ID: <200212061255.gB6Ct0T20822@lv.raad.tartu.ee> Hi! > I would recommend that you do a little more background check first. I've done some. > Try to establish why the CPU-0 is taxed on the old machine: > * low RAM? 512 MB total. 180 MB allocated to database caching, which is approximately equal to the size of database file. New server will have at least 1 GB RAM (who would buy a server with less RAM these days anyway) so I don't think memory is the problem. > * high disc utilization Not the problem, if monitor.nlm is to be believed. Current server has IBM ServeRAID 3L with two 9GB disks in RAID1. The new one would be ServeRAID 5i with two 18 GB Ultra160 disks in RAID1. Since database size is currently less than 200 MB and this server runs nothing but this database, I'm not concerned about only 18 GB total disk space. > * high LAN traffic Not the problem if monitor.nlm and MRTG graphs are to be believed. > * tapes? Tape drive (IBM DDS4) is physically installed but not used. Backups are done at night, when the application is not in use, to another server across the network. > * GW, routing? Neither involved. > * Print & mail User files and printing are hosted on another server. This server does nothing except running Sybase. > etc. Well, there's always the etc :-) > RAM is the most important component on a taxed system with medium to high > disk utilization. Lower the CPU a few steps and buy more RAM for that money. > > As for Xeon DP I can't tell you very much. I would not hesitate to downgrade > the CPU on the new machine, going away from DP, in favor to more RAM. I absolutely agree with your comments about RAM vs CPU influence on performance for typical Netware server. But as I've described above, this server is not exactly your typical Netware file and print server. No users (except couple of administrators) even have any file system rights on this server. The one and only reason of its existence is Sybase database. On typical Netware server, when CPU utilization is high because of lack of memory, slow disk channel or such, the busiest threads typically are called "Server XX", where XX is any number. On this server, when CPU utilization is high, there is only one "extremely busy" thread, which is called dbeng8.nlm. This is the Sybase database engine. I can deliberately cause the high utilization by doing some specific queries in the application that uses the database. After seeing this information, you probably want to say that the application is just poorly written. Let me assure you that the application developers have done everything in their powers to remedy the situation and it hasn't helped much. The problem appeared after upgrading the server from Sybase 5.5 to Sybase 8 (which we were forced to do because we needed additional database connection licenses and they weren't available for the older version). I won't describe everything that has been tried from Sybase side of things because it would take the rest of my working day. Let me just say that since the current hardware is old anyway, hardware upgrade seems pretty reasonable option. My question about Xeon DP and Netware 5.1 still stands. -- Toomas Aas | toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee | http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/ * No, `Eureka' is Greek for `This bath is too hot.' From allan.bank at eds.com Fri Dec 6 13:18:01 2002 From: allan.bank at eds.com (Bank, Allan) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 13:18:01 -0000 Subject: Xeon DP Message-ID: <5917FD47436E784D8B08F132F0AC5061AF1396@sessm201> on a slightly different topic you might want to check this out: http://www.platypustechnology.com/ But as you state that you have a low impact on you current disk system then the above products is ... a bit off topic. /A -----Original Message----- From: Toomas Aas [mailto:toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 1:54 PM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: RE: Xeon DP Hi! > I would recommend that you do a little more background check first. I've done some. > Try to establish why the CPU-0 is taxed on the old machine: > * low RAM? 512 MB total. 180 MB allocated to database caching, which is approximately equal to the size of database file. New server will have at least 1 GB RAM (who would buy a server with less RAM these days anyway) so I don't think memory is the problem. > * high disc utilization Not the problem, if monitor.nlm is to be believed. Current server has IBM ServeRAID 3L with two 9GB disks in RAID1. The new one would be ServeRAID 5i with two 18 GB Ultra160 disks in RAID1. Since database size is currently less than 200 MB and this server runs nothing but this database, I'm not concerned about only 18 GB total disk space. > * high LAN traffic Not the problem if monitor.nlm and MRTG graphs are to be believed. > * tapes? Tape drive (IBM DDS4) is physically installed but not used. Backups are done at night, when the application is not in use, to another server across the network. > * GW, routing? Neither involved. > * Print & mail User files and printing are hosted on another server. This server does nothing except running Sybase. > etc. Well, there's always the etc :-) > RAM is the most important component on a taxed system with medium to high > disk utilization. Lower the CPU a few steps and buy more RAM for that money. > > As for Xeon DP I can't tell you very much. I would not hesitate to downgrade > the CPU on the new machine, going away from DP, in favor to more RAM. I absolutely agree with your comments about RAM vs CPU influence on performance for typical Netware server. But as I've described above, this server is not exactly your typical Netware file and print server. No users (except couple of administrators) even have any file system rights on this server. The one and only reason of its existence is Sybase database. On typical Netware server, when CPU utilization is high because of lack of memory, slow disk channel or such, the busiest threads typically are called "Server XX", where XX is any number. On this server, when CPU utilization is high, there is only one "extremely busy" thread, which is called dbeng8.nlm. This is the Sybase database engine. I can deliberately cause the high utilization by doing some specific queries in the application that uses the database. After seeing this information, you probably want to say that the application is just poorly written. Let me assure you that the application developers have done everything in their powers to remedy the situation and it hasn't helped much. The problem appeared after upgrading the server from Sybase 5.5 to Sybase 8 (which we were forced to do because we needed additional database connection licenses and they weren't available for the older version). I won't describe everything that has been tried from Sybase side of things because it would take the rest of my working day. Let me just say that since the current hardware is old anyway, hardware upgrade seems pretty reasonable option. My question about Xeon DP and Netware 5.1 still stands. -- Toomas Aas | toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee | http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/ * No, `Eureka' is Greek for `This bath is too hot.' _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From maryve1 at starpower.net Fri Dec 6 13:36:31 2002 From: maryve1 at starpower.net (Mary Van Engelen) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 08:36:31 -0500 Subject: using domain name from inside net In-Reply-To: <3DF097F6.6050003@moldriteplastics.com> References: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20021206082920.022d4078@pop.starpower.net> Bud: It can be setup for the same domain name -- you would just define it with your internal IP address subnet. I'm not at the office right now, but I think you would set it up as primary for your internal clients. Use the forward tab to enter your ISP's nameservers. I'll check when I get in the office to verify. Mary At 12/6/2002 07:28 AM, Bud Durland wrote: >Kevin Parris wrote: > >>You need to setup an internal DNS server that will be referenced by all >>workstations in your local network. You get the software for this free, >>included with NetWare. This server will hand out the private IP >>addresses of your servers. Or you can try to tinker with the NAT setup >>somewhere, to make the public IP address work from the inside - but >>that's a pretty tricky thing to pull off. >> > >Right. But, can this internal DNS server be configured for the same >domain name as a server outside the firewall? If so, is it primary or >secondary? In case you can't tell, I've been trying to figure the best >way for this as well. > >The 'public' DNS server for my domain (MRPCAP.COM) is hosted by my isp >(AT&T). Using their on-line tools I have it configured for the hosts I >want the world to see. I have the same problem with internal hosts >getting to my sites via the 'real' ip address instead of the internal >ip. I worked around it by setting up DNS proxy on my Border Manager >server and putting the internal IP addresses for the various servers in >the BMgr server's HOSTS file. > >There are advanatages for me to using NAMED, if I could figure out the >proper configureation (primary, secondary, etc) > > >-- >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >You have to stay in shape. My grandmother, she started walking five >miles a day when she was 60. She's 97 today and we doesn't know >where the hell she is. >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >Bud Durland, CNE Mold-Rite Plastics >Network Administrator http://www.mrpcap.com >-------------------------------------------------------------------- From JRD at cc.usu.edu Fri Dec 6 14:58:25 2002 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 07:58:25 -0700 (MST) Subject: Xeon DP Message-ID: <01KPPD758IFI91XF9D@cc.usu.edu> > >I'm planning a hardware upgrade of one of our departmental database >servers, which is running Sybase SQL Anywhere 8.0.1 on Netware 5.1. >Since the CPU currently seems to be the main bottleneck on the old >hardware, I'm looking for as fast a CPU as possible > >The hardware vendor is offering me IBM xSeries 235 serrver with Xeon DP >processor. I'm a bit hesitant on how the hyperthreading features of >Xeon DP work on Netware 5.1. For those who haven't heard the term >"hyperthreading", it's a new technology introduced by Intel that fools >software into thinking that one physical CPU is actually two "logical" >CPUs, i.e. the OS thinks it's running on dual CPU machine even if there >is currently only one CPU installed. > >We all know about the lack of decent SMP support on Netware. The >hardware I'm about to replace is dual PII, and the second CPU is almost >never utilized. Sybase SQL Anywhere 8, which supports SMP on any other >platform, doesn't on Netware. So I don't want a dual CPU machine, but >in case of Xeon DP it seems I'm still effectively getting it, even if I >buy it with one CPU. > >The hardware is Novell Yes certified, so I'm reasonably sure that it >will work, but how fast? If one of the "logical" processors in the Xeon >DP is never properly utilized, how much (if any) performance will I >lose? > >I'd appreciate comments from anyone running Netware 5.1 on Xeon DP. >-- >Toomas Aas | toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee | http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/ ------------- First thing is to beware of marketing pressures. Hyperthreading has only marginal benefits, quite small. Your vendor makes money selling hardware, and thus their recommendations reflect that (and not your actual needs). Second thing is NW 6 is the SMP platform of choice. SMP really works on it. Third, I usually put numbers into problems. They sort opinions and hunches from the facts. Just where is your present bottleneck, and is Sybase designed to exploit multiple threads and cpus? Often the real bottleneck is the disk farm, waiting for platters to rotate around, so have a look at the effect on your gear. Joe D. From G.Ross at ccw.gov.uk Fri Dec 6 13:09:37 2002 From: G.Ross at ccw.gov.uk (Gordon Ross) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 13:09:37 +0000 Subject: Roaming Profile Downloads Message-ID: Within Windows, there is a "feature" whereby the system tries to detect a large or slow downloading profile, and give the user the option to not use their roaming profile. I've found that this feature can be pretty hit an miss. Examples include: Claiming my profile will take 5 hours to download, and then downloading it in under 2 seconds, yet, Not giving a user the option, even though their profile takes 1 hour to download. Does anyone have any tips or tricks for making it more reliable ? Thanks, GTG Gordon Ross, Network Manager/Rheolwr Rhydwaith Countryside Council for Wales/Cyngor Cefn Gwlad Cymru From rmoletti at ops.org Fri Dec 6 15:02:15 2002 From: rmoletti at ops.org (Rich Molettiere) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 09:02:15 -0600 Subject: Hanging Server Message-ID: Submitted for a colleague who has a server that stops working at 3:00 p.m. - we are a school district afterall :) Before I recommend he backrev SP5 does any have any ideas? Rich Molettiere Technology Coordinator Omaha North High School "Technology is not a free lunch." >>> Burgess, Duke 12/06/02 08:34AM >>> Needs some advice. I have a server that has hung on me two days in a row at about the same time (3:00 p.m.). Each time, the clients lose their connection to the server, but when I go to the console, it appears everything is running just fine. I can Tab through all the screens and the processor is running at about 26%. Nothing jumps out as being out of order. However, when I try to DOWN the server, or type any type command at the command prompt, the server hangs. I shut down using the power button and it comes back up just fine. Tim Zony, the ex-Dell technician OPS hired, suggested I disconnect the network cable next time it happens to see if I can DOWN the server normally that way. He also asked if I had made any changes lately. I told him that I did install the Service Pack 5 for Netware 5.1 recently, but the server was running fine for about 4 days after that. He thinks I may want to back out of the patch and see if that solves the problem. This is the server that crashed (lost the primary hard drive) about two months ago. When I brought it back up, I switched from 5.00 to 5.1, but didn't install any patches until this past weekend. I was having problems getting ArcServe to work and wanted to get those problems resolved before trying anything with Novell. My ArcServe problems were all self-inflicted, not system errors. I just didn't set all the parameters correctly when I reestablished the backup scripts. Since all was running smoothly for about 2-3 weeks, I thought it was time to load the Novell service pack. I have SP5 loaded on my other server and everything seems to run smoothly. However, the other server doesn't not have ArcServe installed presently. Have any suggestions. I checked the Novell list server and found a similar problem associated with the SP5 on Netware 5.1. Read through all the messages, but don't know if I have the same problem. Any help would be appreciated. Incidentally, I was wondering if you are experiencing any slowness in accessing various folders on the Microsoft servers you use (SASI/PeopleSoft) when using a Windows 2000 computer. Doesn't seem to affect Windows 95 computers. Whenever I try to open a folder more than two levels down, it takes 10-20 seconds to open the folder. I saw a message about this somewhere, which claimed the problem was associated with the Novell client. Don't understand that, but decided to upgrade to the latest client. Have it on several machines now, but haven't had time to test it thoroughly. Duke Burgess Staff Assistant/Network Administrator Division of Research Omaha Public Schools Tel: (402) 557-2080 From toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee Fri Dec 6 15:12:03 2002 From: toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee (Toomas Aas) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 17:12:03 +0200 Subject: Xeon DP In-Reply-To: <01KPPD758IFI91XF9D@cc.usu.edu> Message-ID: <200212061513.gB6FDT525335@lv.raad.tartu.ee> Hi! > First thing is to beware of marketing pressures. Hyperthreading > has only marginal benefits, quite small. Your vendor makes money selling > hardware, and thus their recommendations reflect that (and not your > actual needs). That's what I was afraid of. Especially when Netware 5.1 is involved. > Second thing is NW 6 is the SMP platform of choice. SMP really > works on it. Unfortunately, OS upgrade is not feasible at this time. And given that Sybase doesn't support SMP on Netware, I doubt it would help much anyway. Again, we are not talking about file & print server, we are talking about dedicated database server. > Third, I usually put numbers into problems. They sort opinions > and hunches from the facts. Just where is your present bottleneck, and > is Sybase designed to exploit multiple threads and cpus? Sybase doesn't support multiple CPUs *on Netware* (as I wrote in my original message). The bottleneck, however, is very clearly CPU in this case. The application is generating a big report as I type. This report has been running approximately 2 hours and the CPU utilization is 50% almost constantly (meaning CPU0 is at 100% and CPU1 is at 0%). > Often the real bottleneck is the disk farm, waiting for platters to > rotate around, so have a look at the effect on your gear. There are hardly any "current disk requests" or "dirty cache buffers". I mean, sometimes there are 1 or 5, but never more than 25 DCB. Current disk requests is zero most of the time. -- Toomas Aas | toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee | http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/ * Why is the third hand on a watch called a second hand? From dtran at ssc.ucla.edu Fri Dec 6 15:33:58 2002 From: dtran at ssc.ucla.edu (Daniel Tran) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 07:33:58 -0800 Subject: Xeon DP In-Reply-To: <200212061142.gB6BgYn17422@lv.raad.tartu.ee> Message-ID: <000601c29d3c$e5090f50$49e56180@hp1> Toomas, I have a Compaq server using the Xeon DP chip running Netware6 (Not 5.1 - sorry). To get netware6 to recognize the "hyper threading" feature, I have to load Compaq specific PSM for it show the "extra virtual processor". If your machine has 2 CPU, using the Netware PSM will show 2 CPUs. Using the right PSM from the vendor will show 4 CPU when loading up. Performance wise, I do not know. I don't have apps that will take advantage of multi-processor. Daniel - dtran at ssc.ucla.edu > -----Original Message----- > From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu > [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Toomas Aas > Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 3:41 AM > To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu > Subject: Xeon DP > > > Hi! > > I'm planning a hardware upgrade of one of our departmental database > servers, which is running Sybase SQL Anywhere 8.0.1 on > Netware 5.1. Since the CPU currently seems to be the main > bottleneck on the old > hardware, I'm looking for as fast a CPU as possible > > The hardware vendor is offering me IBM xSeries 235 serrver > with Xeon DP > processor. I'm a bit hesitant on how the hyperthreading features of > Xeon DP work on Netware 5.1. For those who haven't heard the term > "hyperthreading", it's a new technology introduced by Intel > that fools > software into thinking that one physical CPU is actually two > "logical" > CPUs, i.e. the OS thinks it's running on dual CPU machine > even if there > is currently only one CPU installed. > > We all know about the lack of decent SMP support on Netware. The > hardware I'm about to replace is dual PII, and the second CPU > is almost > never utilized. Sybase SQL Anywhere 8, which supports SMP on > any other > platform, doesn't on Netware. So I don't want a dual CPU machine, but > in case of Xeon DP it seems I'm still effectively getting it, > even if I > buy it with one CPU. > > The hardware is Novell Yes certified, so I'm reasonably sure that it > will work, but how fast? If one of the "logical" processors > in the Xeon > DP is never properly utilized, how much (if any) performance will I > lose? > > I'd appreciate comments from anyone running Netware 5.1 on Xeon DP. > -- > Toomas Aas | toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee | > http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/ > * Show respect to age. > Drink good scotch. > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > From MCCAINA at cedarville.edu Fri Dec 6 15:40:35 2002 From: MCCAINA at cedarville.edu (Alan McCain) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 10:40:35 -0500 Subject: Small Business Suite question Message-ID: I have a situation that currently consists of a NW4.11 small business suite server. The users need to continue using that server because their software depends on the older version of btrieve on the server. We'd like to install another server using small business suite 6 in a completely new tree and move the users to that tree. We'll be adding Groupwise and a few other features. But the some of the users need to be able to also connect to the NW4.11 server to use their business software. I assume I can use either the dos login command to connect them or a statement in the NW6 login script to attach to the old sever. I believe they just need to map to a drive letter on the old server. Are there any problems with this that I'm not seeing? Thanks, Alan McCain From james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Fri Dec 6 15:50:30 2002 From: james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com (James Taylor) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 10:50:30 -0500 Subject: Small Business Suite question Message-ID: It's a fairly seamless operation to add mappings to a server in another tree to your NW 6 login script. You have to add the TREE command with the proper syntax prior to mapping the drives. As long as the users have the same CN and passwords are synced, the users will never notice the difference. One caveat with the btrieve...I'm working with a similar situation for a client using Platinum on a 4.11 server with primary attachment to a NW6 cluster, and the NW6 servers only have IP and the NW4.11 server only has IPX/SPX. I had to ensure that the comm settings for Btrieve/PervasiveSQL were SPXII-only on the client and server. Otherwise the app would see the IP connection to the NW6 servers and try to utilize it for the app connection. This resulted in the app going off into deep space when the client tried to attach. -jt James Taylor The East Cobb Group, Inc. Voice - 678-560-9702 Fax - 678-697-9421 james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com http://www.eastcobbgroup.com >>> MCCAINA at cedarville.edu 12/06 10:40 AM >>> I have a situation that currently consists of a NW4.11 small business suite server. The users need to continue using that server because their software depends on the older version of btrieve on the server. We'd like to install another server using small business suite 6 in a completely new tree and move the users to that tree. We'll be adding Groupwise and a few other features. But the some of the users need to be able to also connect to the NW4.11 server to use their business software. I assume I can use either the dos login command to connect them or a statement in the NW6 login script to attach to the old sever. I believe they just need to map to a drive letter on the old server. Are there any problems with this that I'm not seeing? Thanks, Alan McCain _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From JRD at cc.usu.edu Fri Dec 6 16:02:48 2002 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 09:02:48 -0700 (MST) Subject: List admin matters, please do read Message-ID: <01KPPEX3Q5HU91XEIU@cc.usu.edu> The transistion interval is drawing to a close and we now need to have members subscribed. For awhile we opened the list to folks who were not, as a matter of much convenience during the transition. Enough time has elapsed to get back to regular mode. Thus may I recommend visiting http://netlab1.usu.edu/ and clicking on the list's item to subscribe. Then return the confirmation request sent back to you. If in doubt about status, ask the machine to send the password to you again so you can check on it. This weekend I will remove the old list of folks allowed to post without a subscription. I am now monitoring three kinds of difficulties: overfull mailboxes causing backlogs, vacation notices, and incoming mail from non-subscribed folks. Overfull boxes for too long causes me to delete the account. Vacation notices are a pain for everyone; your account may be suspended depending on my mood at the time. Instead please set your account to no-mail via the web site or via email; pick up back traffic from the archives. Have a safe trip. Non-subscribed folks are reaching the point having to subscribe. Please do remember that the machine requires returning the confirmation notice. A simple reply (as the notice indicates) will do the trick, but please don't embellish the message as it will confuse the machine. On a more positive note, I encourage folks to query the archives about points before asking what might be a common question. It's easy, it can be rather interesting reading too, and your name may be there. Thanks, Joe D. From Mcallaha at cdphp.com Fri Dec 6 15:51:54 2002 From: Mcallaha at cdphp.com (Michael Callahan) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 10:51:54 -0500 Subject: Hanging Server Message-ID: One way to figure out what process is causing an issue like this is to go to Monitor - Kernel - threads the highest utilization item is at the top. You will probably see plenty of server xx threads , these are the server processes like timesync, replication etc. The second item I can suggest you check is in Monitor - server parameters - file system - Compression Daily Check Starting hour and stop hour . The times by default are 0 (midnight ) to start and 6 (6am ) to stop . Look at your directory cache level and compare it to the minimum / maximum under server param - directory caching . If the dir cache buffers are at or near the max you will have issues . (ex dir cache buffers 3000 in monitor, in server params minimum is 15000 max is 3000 make the minimum 2000 and the max 5000 or 6000 .) You will have to restart to make the change effective . Arcserve also has prune and purge to maintain the database. You can check the schedule for this in the Manager - click on database - then the button on the toolbar that looks like puzzle pieces (configure) . Verify the jobs are in the middle of the night not during the day. Just a few suggestions to help. >>> rmoletti at ops.org Friday, December 06, 2002 10:02:15 AM >>> Submitted for a colleague who has a server that stops working at 3:00 p.m. - we are a school district afterall :) Before I recommend he backrev SP5 does any have any ideas? Rich Molettiere Technology Coordinator Omaha North High School "Technology is not a free lunch." Michael Callahan CNE 4,5,6,Network+, A+ Network Engineer Capital District Physicians Health Plan Patroon Creek Corporate Center 1223 Washington Ave. Albany, NY 12206 ph. (518) 641-4423 fax (518) 641-4305 Mike_callahan at cdphp.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email, including attachments, is for the sole use of the individual to whom it is addressed, and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and destroy this message and its attachments. >>> Burgess, Duke 12/06/02 08:34AM >>> Needs some advice. I have a server that has hung on me two days in a row at about the same time (3:00 p.m.). Each time, the clients lose their connection to the server, but when I go to the console, it appears everything is running just fine. I can Tab through all the screens and the processor is running at about 26%. Nothing jumps out as being out of order. However, when I try to DOWN the server, or type any type command at the command prompt, the server hangs. I shut down using the power button and it comes back up just fine. Tim Zony, the ex-Dell technician OPS hired, suggested I disconnect the network cable next time it happens to see if I can DOWN the server normally that way. He also asked if I had made any changes lately. I told him that I did install the Service Pack 5 for Netware 5.1 recently, but the server was running fine for about 4 days after that. He thinks I may want to back out of the patch and see if that solves the problem. This is the server that crashed (lost the primary hard drive) about two months ago. When I brought it back up, I switched from 5.00 to 5.1, but didn't install any patches until this past weekend. I was having problems getting ArcServe to work and wanted to get those problems resolved before trying anything with Novell. My ArcServe problems were all self-inflicted, not system errors. I just didn't set all the parameters correctly when I reestablished the backup scripts. Since all was running smoothly for about 2-3 weeks, I thought it was time to load the Novell service pack. I have SP5 loaded on my other server and everything seems to run smoothly. However, the other server doesn't not have ArcServe installed presently. Have any suggestions. I checked the Novell list server and found a similar problem associated with the SP5 on Netware 5.1. Read through all the messages, but don't know if I have the same problem. Any help would be appreciated. Incidentally, I was wondering if you are experiencing any slowness in accessing various folders on the Microsoft servers you use (SASI/PeopleSoft) when using a Windows 2000 computer. Doesn't seem to affect Windows 95 computers. Whenever I try to open a folder more than two levels down, it takes 10-20 seconds to open the folder. I saw a message about this somewhere, which claimed the problem was associated with the Novell client. Don't understand that, but decided to upgrade to the latest client. Have it on several machines now, but haven't had time to test it thoroughly. Duke Burgess Staff Assistant/Network Administrator Division of Research Omaha Public Schools Tel: (402) 557-2080 _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: Michael Callahan.vcf Url: http://netlab1.usu.edu/pipermail/novell/attachments/20021206/064f0ffb/attachment.ksh From robin.barker at blueloop.net Fri Dec 6 15:16:35 2002 From: robin.barker at blueloop.net (Robin Barker) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 15:16:35 +0000 Subject: REMOVE Message-ID: >>> toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee 06/12/2002 15:12:03 >>> Hi! > First thing is to beware of marketing pressures. Hyperthreading > has only marginal benefits, quite small. Your vendor makes money selling > hardware, and thus their recommendations reflect that (and not your > actual needs). That's what I was afraid of. Especially when Netware 5.1 is involved. > Second thing is NW 6 is the SMP platform of choice. SMP really > works on it. Unfortunately, OS upgrade is not feasible at this time. And given that Sybase doesn't support SMP on Netware, I doubt it would help much anyway. Again, we are not talking about file & print server, we are talking about dedicated database server. > Third, I usually put numbers into problems. They sort opinions > and hunches from the facts. Just where is your present bottleneck, and > is Sybase designed to exploit multiple threads and cpus? Sybase doesn't support multiple CPUs *on Netware* (as I wrote in my original message). The bottleneck, however, is very clearly CPU in this case. The application is generating a big report as I type. This report has been running approximately 2 hours and the CPU utilization is 50% almost constantly (meaning CPU0 is at 100% and CPU1 is at 0%). > Often the real bottleneck is the disk farm, waiting for platters to > rotate around, so have a look at the effect on your gear. There are hardly any "current disk requests" or "dirty cache buffers". I mean, sometimes there are 1 or 5, but never more than 25 DCB. Current disk requests is zero most of the time. -- Toomas Aas | toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee | http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/ * Why is the third hand on a watch called a second hand? _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From jcreecy at mailer.fsu.edu Fri Dec 6 15:42:31 2002 From: jcreecy at mailer.fsu.edu (Sam Creecy) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 10:42:31 -0500 Subject: Hanging Server In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003d01c29d3e$16a28cc0$3b04c992@FlightSim> Stops working? Does this mean it shuts down or the hardware is running but Netware has lost its mind? Check the bios settings... Sam Creecy Academic Computing & Network Services jcreecy at acns.fsu.edu 644-2591 -----Original Message----- From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Rich Molettiere Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 10:02 AM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: Hanging Server Submitted for a colleague who has a server that stops working at 3:00 p.m. - we are a school district afterall :) Before I recommend he backrev SP5 does any have any ideas? Rich Molettiere Technology Coordinator Omaha North High School "Technology is not a free lunch." >>> Burgess, Duke 12/06/02 08:34AM >>> Needs some advice. I have a server that has hung on me two days in a row at about the same time (3:00 p.m.). Each time, the clients lose their connection to the server, but when I go to the console, it appears everything is running just fine. I can Tab through all the screens and the processor is running at about 26%. Nothing jumps out as being out of order. However, when I try to DOWN the server, or type any type command at the command prompt, the server hangs. I shut down using the power button and it comes back up just fine. Tim Zony, the ex-Dell technician OPS hired, suggested I disconnect the network cable next time it happens to see if I can DOWN the server normally that way. He also asked if I had made any changes lately. I told him that I did install the Service Pack 5 for Netware 5.1 recently, but the server was running fine for about 4 days after that. He thinks I may want to back out of the patch and see if that solves the problem. This is the server that crashed (lost the primary hard drive) about two months ago. When I brought it back up, I switched from 5.00 to 5.1, but didn't install any patches until this past weekend. I was having problems getting ArcServe to work and wanted to get those problems resolved before trying anything with Novell. My ArcServe problems were all self-inflicted, not system errors. I just didn't set all the parameters correctly when I reestablished the backup scripts. Since all was running smoothly for about 2-3 weeks, I thought it was time to load the Novell service pack. I have SP5 loaded on my other server and everything seems to run smoothly. However, the other server doesn't not have ArcServe installed presently. Have any suggestions. I checked the Novell list server and found a similar problem associated with the SP5 on Netware 5.1. Read through all the messages, but don't know if I have the same problem. Any help would be appreciated. Incidentally, I was wondering if you are experiencing any slowness in accessing various folders on the Microsoft servers you use (SASI/PeopleSoft) when using a Windows 2000 computer. Doesn't seem to affect Windows 95 computers. Whenever I try to open a folder more than two levels down, it takes 10-20 seconds to open the folder. I saw a message about this somewhere, which claimed the problem was associated with the Novell client. Don't understand that, but decided to upgrade to the latest client. Have it on several machines now, but haven't had time to test it thoroughly. Duke Burgess Staff Assistant/Network Administrator Division of Research Omaha Public Schools Tel: (402) 557-2080 _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From dtran at ssc.ucla.edu Fri Dec 6 16:22:03 2002 From: dtran at ssc.ucla.edu (Daniel Tran) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 08:22:03 -0800 Subject: Hanging Server In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000801c29d43$9c6ffdb0$49e56180@hp1> Had something similar to this a while back. Exactly as described by your colleague. In my case it occurred mostly during backup (across network) at night or sometimes randomly during the day when backup is not running. The server was installed by someone years ago using a 3com network card. Monitor screen showed LAN stats with many transmit underruns. I modified the 3com LDI file so you can turn on the value for TXThreshold (I believe that's the one - I can be wrong) and it appeared to fix the problem. Also locked the NIC to 100 half duplex. Another thing to try is run vrepair on volumes to make sure it's error free. Daniel - dtran at ssc.ucla.edu > -----Original Message----- > From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu > [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Rich Molettiere > Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 7:02 AM > To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu > Subject: Hanging Server > > > Submitted for a colleague who has a server that stops working > at 3:00 p.m. - we are a school district afterall :) Before I > recommend he backrev SP5 does any have any ideas? > > Rich Molettiere > Technology Coordinator > Omaha North High School > "Technology is not a free lunch." > > >>> Burgess, Duke 12/06/02 08:34AM >>> > Needs some advice. > > I have a server that has hung on me two days in a row at > about the same time (3:00 p.m.). Each time, the clients lose > their connection to the server, but when I go to the console, > it appears everything is running just fine. I can Tab through > all the screens and the processor is running at about 26%. > Nothing jumps out as being out of order. However, when I try > to DOWN the server, or type any type command at the command > prompt, the server hangs. I shut down using the power button > and it comes back up just fine. > > Tim Zony, the ex-Dell technician OPS hired, suggested I > disconnect the network cable next time it happens to see if I > can DOWN the server normally that way. He also asked if I had > made any changes lately. I told him that I did install the > Service Pack 5 for Netware 5.1 recently, but the server was > running fine for about 4 days after that. He thinks I may > want to back out of the patch and see if that solves the problem. > > This is the server that crashed (lost the primary hard drive) > about two months ago. When I brought it back up, I switched > from 5.00 to 5.1, but didn't install any patches until this > past weekend. I was having problems getting ArcServe to work > and wanted to get those problems resolved before trying > anything with Novell. My ArcServe problems were all > self-inflicted, not system errors. I just didn't set all the > parameters correctly when I reestablished the backup scripts. > > Since all was running smoothly for about 2-3 weeks, I thought > it was time to load the Novell service pack. I have SP5 > loaded on my other server and everything seems to run > smoothly. However, the other server doesn't not have ArcServe > installed presently. > > Have any suggestions. I checked the Novell list server and > found a similar problem associated with the SP5 on Netware > 5.1. Read through all the messages, but don't know if I have > the same problem. Any help would be appreciated. > > Incidentally, I was wondering if you are experiencing any > slowness in accessing various folders on the Microsoft > servers you use (SASI/PeopleSoft) when using a Windows 2000 > computer. Doesn't seem to affect Windows 95 computers. > Whenever I try to open a folder more than two levels down, it > takes 10-20 seconds to open the folder. I saw a message about > this somewhere, which claimed the problem was associated with > the Novell client. Don't understand that, but decided to > upgrade to the latest client. Have it on several machines > now, but haven't had time to test it thoroughly. > > Duke Burgess > Staff Assistant/Network Administrator > Division of Research > Omaha Public Schools > Tel: (402) 557-2080 > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > From baldwin at nevp.com Fri Dec 6 16:50:20 2002 From: baldwin at nevp.com (Baldwin, Rodney) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 08:50:20 -0800 Subject: Remove from List Please!!!! Message-ID: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://netlab1.usu.edu/pipermail/novell/attachments/20021206/eaadf3f2/attachment.html From JRD at cc.usu.edu Fri Dec 6 17:03:29 2002 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 10:03:29 -0700 (MST) Subject: Remove from List Please!!!! Message-ID: <01KPPHM4CKHE91XFD5@cc.usu.edu> Wake up people! Don't send unsubscribe messages to the list of people. Don't send HTML gibberish anywhere. Please use the admin address, novell-request at netlab1.usu.edu, or visit the web page http://netlab1.usu.edu/. You can do it, I know you can figure it out. Isn't this on a CNE exam somewhere? Thanks, Joe D. From larry_burd at compuserve.com Fri Dec 6 17:03:47 2002 From: larry_burd at compuserve.com (Larry Burd) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 12:03:47 -0500 Subject: arcserve 6.6 Message-ID: <200212061204_MC3-1-1E82-7D4@compuserve.com> are there any arcserve usergroups or forums that are novell specific. thx Larry From Jim.Mitchell at Strasburger.com Fri Dec 6 17:16:25 2002 From: Jim.Mitchell at Strasburger.com (Jim Mitchell) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 11:16:25 -0600 Subject: Roaming Profile Downloads Message-ID: >>> G.Ross at ccw.gov.uk 12/06/02 07:09AM >>> Within Windows, there is a "feature" whereby the system tries to detect a large or slow downloading profile, and give the user the option to not use their roaming profile. I've found that this feature can be pretty hit an miss. Examples include: Claiming my profile will take 5 hours to download, and then downloading it in under 2 seconds, yet, Not giving a user the option, even though their profile takes 1 hour to download. Does anyone have any tips or tricks for making it more reliable ? Thanks, GTG Gordon Ross, Network Manager/Rheolwr Rhydwaith Countryside Council for Wales/Cyngor Cefn Gwlad Cymru Don't use Roaming Profiles. ;) Seriously, I personally think Roaming Profiles are one of M$'s worst ideas ever, but my boss disagrees, and therefore I run into the same issues as you. There are some Group Policy settings that allow you to tweak the downloading of profiles. These can be pushed out through ZfD 3.2 and 4.0 or you could use the native M$ delivery mechanisms. There are 2 areas where these can be configured: Computer Configuration\Adminstrative Templates\System\User Profiles & User Configuration\Adminstrative Templates\System\User Profiles HTH -j From mdlaat at muisnetwerken.nl Fri Dec 6 17:39:37 2002 From: mdlaat at muisnetwerken.nl (Maurice de Laat) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 18:39:37 +0100 Subject: arcserve 6.6 In-Reply-To: <200212061204_MC3-1-1E82-7D4@compuserve.com>; from larry_burd@compuserve.com on Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 12:03:47PM -0500 References: <200212061204_MC3-1-1E82-7D4@compuserve.com> Message-ID: <20021206183937.A14101@www.extern-systeembeheer.nl> On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 12:03:47PM -0500, Larry Burd wrote: > are there any arcserve usergroups or forums that are novell specific. Yes, on the computer associates site. -- Maurice de Laat From jgroetsema at uop.edu Fri Dec 6 18:33:03 2002 From: jgroetsema at uop.edu (Jeff Groetsema) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 10:33:03 -0800 Subject: Xeon DP Message-ID: Toomas, Currios, what is the processing power of your current server? A reasonable processor running at 100% utilization working on data mostly in memory for that amount of time, seems a bit odd. Jeff >>> toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee 12/06/02 07:12AM >>> Hi! > First thing is to beware of marketing pressures. Hyperthreading > has only marginal benefits, quite small. Your vendor makes money selling > hardware, and thus their recommendations reflect that (and not your > actual needs). That's what I was afraid of. Especially when Netware 5.1 is involved. > Second thing is NW 6 is the SMP platform of choice. SMP really > works on it. Unfortunately, OS upgrade is not feasible at this time. And given that Sybase doesn't support SMP on Netware, I doubt it would help much anyway. Again, we are not talking about file & print server, we are talking about dedicated database server. > Third, I usually put numbers into problems. They sort opinions > and hunches from the facts. Just where is your present bottleneck, and > is Sybase designed to exploit multiple threads and cpus? Sybase doesn't support multiple CPUs *on Netware* (as I wrote in my original message). The bottleneck, however, is very clearly CPU in this case. The application is generating a big report as I type. This report has been running approximately 2 hours and the CPU utilization is 50% almost constantly (meaning CPU0 is at 100% and CPU1 is at 0%). > Often the real bottleneck is the disk farm, waiting for platters to > rotate around, so have a look at the effect on your gear. There are hardly any "current disk requests" or "dirty cache buffers". I mean, sometimes there are 1 or 5, but never more than 25 DCB. Current disk requests is zero most of the time. -- Toomas Aas | toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee | http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/ * Why is the third hand on a watch called a second hand? _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From ccu at spamcop.net Fri Dec 6 18:45:48 2002 From: ccu at spamcop.net (CCU Admin) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 13:45:48 -0500 Subject: Novell Authentication via LDAP Message-ID: <1039200348.3df0f05cbe11d@webmail.spamcop.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available Url: http://netlab1.usu.edu/pipermail/novell/attachments/20021206/f815c767/attachment.ksh From dtran at ssc.ucla.edu Fri Dec 6 19:16:28 2002 From: dtran at ssc.ucla.edu (Daniel Tran) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 11:16:28 -0800 Subject: update login method Message-ID: <000101c29d5b$fa3aaf90$49e56180@hp1> I'm trying to update the login method for AFPTCP but I cannot find the update method button in Console1. Anyone know how to make this button to appear? Thanks Daniel - dtran at ssc.ucla.edu From dtran at ssc.ucla.edu Fri Dec 6 19:21:20 2002 From: dtran at ssc.ucla.edu (Daniel Tran) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 11:21:20 -0800 Subject: update login method - found it. In-Reply-To: <000101c29d5b$fa3aaf90$49e56180@hp1> Message-ID: <000201c29d5c$a821ba90$49e56180@hp1> Never mind, sorry. I found it. I was clicking on the wrong space. Sorry for waste of BW. Daniel - dtran at ssc.ucla.edu > -----Original Message----- > From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu > [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Daniel Tran > Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 11:16 AM > To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu > Subject: update login method > > > I'm trying to update the login method for AFPTCP but I cannot > find the update method button in Console1. Anyone know how to > make this button to appear? > > Thanks > Daniel - dtran at ssc.ucla.edu > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > From phasenjager at fzacpa.com Fri Dec 6 19:24:22 2002 From: phasenjager at fzacpa.com (Patrick Hasenjager) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 13:24:22 -0600 Subject: NDPS Delay Message-ID: I have an HP LaserJet 5Si set up as an NDPS CA Printer. Due to one of our software packages, users must print to a queue that forwards to NDPS (I haven't figured this one out yet). Several users are complaining that the printer will pause between each page of the print-out. Since we are an accounting firm, we often print 50-150 page documents. NDPS Broker and Manager on a Pentium II 500Mhz with 512MB RAM, NetWare 6 SP2. Clients are Win2000 4.83 SP1. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Patrick Hasenjager Technical Support Specialist Frankel, Zacharia, Arnold, Nissen, Stamp & Reinsch, LLC Main: (402) 496-9100 Desk: (402) 963-4340 Fax: (402) 496-1024 phasenjager at fzacpa.com From John at coastal.edu Fri Dec 6 18:33:21 2002 From: John at coastal.edu (John Hanna) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 13:33:21 -0500 Subject: Novell Authentication question Message-ID: I am sure I know the answer to this question, but I want to make 100% sure before I take a strong stance on something here. Can the Novell Client 32 authenticate you into NDS through LDAP on another platform? John Hanna Network Services Manager Coastal Carolina University PO Box 261954 Conway, SC 29528-6054 Phone:(843)349-2150 Fax: (843)349-2990 Email: John at coastal.edu -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 1736 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://netlab1.usu.edu/pipermail/novell/attachments/20021206/a07e84eb/attachment.bin From baldwin at nevp.com Fri Dec 6 20:19:22 2002 From: baldwin at nevp.com (Baldwin, Rodney) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 12:19:22 -0800 Subject: Remove from List!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: Bank, Allan [mailto:allan.bank at eds.com] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 4:29 AM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: Xeon DP I would recommend that you do a little more background check first. Try to establish why the CPU-0 is taxed on the old machine: * low RAM? * high disc utilization * high LAN traffic * tapes? * GW, routing? * Print & mail etc. RAM is the most important component on a taxed system with medium to high disk utilization. Lower the CPU a few steps and buy more RAM for that money. As for Xeon DP I can't tell you very much. I would not hesitate to downgrade the CPU on the new machine, going away from DP, in favor to more RAM. /A -----Original Message----- From: Toomas Aas [mailto:toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 12:41 PM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: Xeon DP Hi! I'm planning a hardware upgrade of one of our departmental database servers, which is running Sybase SQL Anywhere 8.0.1 on Netware 5.1. Since the CPU currently seems to be the main bottleneck on the old hardware, I'm looking for as fast a CPU as possible The hardware vendor is offering me IBM xSeries 235 serrver with Xeon DP processor. I'm a bit hesitant on how the hyperthreading features of Xeon DP work on Netware 5.1. For those who haven't heard the term "hyperthreading", it's a new technology introduced by Intel that fools software into thinking that one physical CPU is actually two "logical" CPUs, i.e. the OS thinks it's running on dual CPU machine even if there is currently only one CPU installed. We all know about the lack of decent SMP support on Netware. The hardware I'm about to replace is dual PII, and the second CPU is almost never utilized. Sybase SQL Anywhere 8, which supports SMP on any other platform, doesn't on Netware. So I don't want a dual CPU machine, but in case of Xeon DP it seems I'm still effectively getting it, even if I buy it with one CPU. The hardware is Novell Yes certified, so I'm reasonably sure that it will work, but how fast? If one of the "logical" processors in the Xeon DP is never properly utilized, how much (if any) performance will I lose? I'd appreciate comments from anyone running Netware 5.1 on Xeon DP. -- Toomas Aas | toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee | http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/ * Show respect to age. Drink good scotch. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From dtran at ssc.ucla.edu Fri Dec 6 22:39:12 2002 From: dtran at ssc.ucla.edu (Daniel Tran) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 14:39:12 -0800 Subject: FYI - tcpip 5.81o & time sync Message-ID: <000e01c29d78$4c49da60$49e56180@hp1> Just tested out the new tcpip 5.81o (tcp581o.exe) on a netware 5.1 server (running edir 8.6.2). I used the NULL stack version The server is configured as SINGLE/SINGLE with configured sources on pointing to an external NTP source. Server can get external time ok. My other netware 5.0 server with timesync 5.24o, configured at SECONDARY with sources on, pointing at the SINGLE server above. Timesync failed immediately. Debug screen showed: Start Poll DSConnect Failed OutBound Return DSConnect Failed OutBound Return DSConnect Failed OutBound Return *** Unable to communicate with server SSCNDS1! *** I backed down to the previous timesync version 5.25u on my netware5.1 and all is well. Daniel - dtran at ssc.ucla.edu From skueny at free.fr Fri Dec 6 23:08:11 2002 From: skueny at free.fr (KUENY Serge) Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 00:08:11 +0100 Subject: (Fwd) Re: Xeon DP Message-ID: <3DF13BEB.28112.430E047B@localhost> BIOS option exist on IBM boxes : desactivate hyperthreading. so no smp support needed on Netware. The OS see only the real number of physical processors...... Regards > Hi! > > I'm planning a hardware upgrade of one of our departmental database > servers, which is running Sybase SQL Anywhere 8.0.1 on Netware 5.1. > Since the CPU currently seems to be the main bottleneck on the old > hardware, I'm looking for as fast a CPU as possible > > The hardware vendor is offering me IBM xSeries 235 serrver with Xeon DP > processor. I'm a bit hesitant on how the hyperthreading features of > Xeon DP work on Netware 5.1. For those who haven't heard the term > "hyperthreading", it's a new technology introduced by Intel that fools > software into thinking that one physical CPU is actually two "logical" > CPUs, i.e. the OS thinks it's running on dual CPU machine even if there > is currently only one CPU installed. > > We all know about the lack of decent SMP support on Netware. The > hardware I'm about to replace is dual PII, and the second CPU is almost > never utilized. Sybase SQL Anywhere 8, which supports SMP on any other > platform, doesn't on Netware. So I don't want a dual CPU machine, but > in case of Xeon DP it seems I'm still effectively getting it, even if I > buy it with one CPU. > > The hardware is Novell Yes certified, so I'm reasonably sure that it > will work, but how fast? If one of the "logical" processors in the Xeon > DP is never properly utilized, how much (if any) performance will I > lose? > > I'd appreciate comments from anyone running Netware 5.1 on Xeon DP. > -- > Toomas Aas | toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee | http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/ > * Show respect to age. Drink good scotch. > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > ----------------- Serge KUENY Network Manager Hutchinson Automotive BP238 45202 Montargis Cedex France mailto:skueny at compuserve.com Voice: +33 02 38 87 51 58 Fax : +33 02 38 87 54 92 Disclaimer : Any opinions expressed here are my own and not of Hutchinson Automotive. ----------------- Serge KUENY Network Manager Hutchinson Automotive BP238 45202 Montargis Cedex France mailto:skueny at compuserve.com Voice: +33 02 38 87 51 58 Fax : +33 02 38 87 54 92 Disclaimer : Any opinions expressed here are my own and not of Hutchinson Automotive. From VideoPic at aol.com Sat Dec 7 04:29:31 2002 From: VideoPic at aol.com (VideoPic at aol.com) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 23:29:31 -0500 Subject: Stop sending me e-mails Message-ID: <3E064E15.216FFA12.0085898B@aol.com> Stop sending me e-mails from other people asking me and answering questions. I have nothing to do with this group. From G.Ross at ccw.gov.uk Sat Dec 7 08:57:14 2002 From: G.Ross at ccw.gov.uk (Gordon Ross) Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 08:57:14 +0000 Subject: Roaming Profiles Message-ID: Within Windows, there is a "feature" whereby the system tries to detect a large or slow downloading profile, and give the user the option to not use their roaming profile. I've found that this feature can be pretty hit an miss. Examples include: Claiming my profile will take 5 hours to download, and then downloading it in under 2 seconds, yet, Not giving a user the option, even though their profile takes 1 hour to download. Does anyone have any tips or tricks for making it more reliable ? We're using NT4, Wink2K and XP Thanks, Gordon Ross, Network Manager/Rheolwr Rhydwaith Countryside Council for Wales/Cyngor Cefn Gwlad Cymru From wwadams at bellatlantic.net Sat Dec 7 14:41:39 2002 From: wwadams at bellatlantic.net (wwadams at bellatlantic.net) Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 8:41:39 -0600 Subject: Remove from List! Message-ID: <20021207144139.LRSD4645.out004.verizon.net@[127.0.0.1]> Remove WWADAMS at BELLATLANTIC.NET From greg at steadfast.ca Sat Dec 7 14:43:00 2002 From: greg at steadfast.ca (Greg Bembridge, CET, CNE, MCP) Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 11:43:00 -0300 Subject: arcserve 6.6 References: <200212061204_MC3-1-1E82-7D4@compuserve.com> Message-ID: <20021207T114301Z_95A200050000@steadfast.ca> There is an Arcserve user group right on their web site; http://forums.ca.com/disclaimer.html Greg Bembridge, CET, CNE, MCP Steadfast Computer Network Services Halifax, Nova Scotia greg at steadfast.ca www.steadfast.ca >>> Larry Burd 12/06/02 01:03PM >>> are there any arcserve usergroups or forums that are novell specific. thx Larry _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From greg at steadfast.ca Sat Dec 7 14:50:00 2002 From: greg at steadfast.ca (Greg Bembridge, CET, CNE, MCP) Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 11:50:00 -0300 Subject: XP Pro having trouble with Excel spreadsheets on Netware servers References: <3DEF7BD0.BA506A5D@motion.net> Message-ID: <20021207T115051Z_95A200050000@steadfast.ca> Interesting Linda. I was talking with someone the other night that has an XP Pro workstation on a Novell server, and she is unable to save XL documents to a directory on the server. She can save to the workstation no problem, or copy the document via floppy to another workstation (non-XP) and save to the server from there. But not direct from the XP Pro workstation to the server. Sounded pretty weird to me, I haven't actually been to that clients site, but apparently their Novell team have tried a number of actions - all unsuccessful. Greg Greg Bembridge, CET, CNE, MCP Steadfast Computer Network Services Halifax, Nova Scotia greg at steadfast.ca www.steadfast.ca >>> Linda 12/05/02 12:16PM >>> We began introducing XP Pro workstations this summer and didn't have any problems until we got to our sites with Novell servers. This problem is only with XP workstations accessing Netware servers. We use Office 97. We've duplicated the problem on Netware 3.12, 4.11 and 5 which are the versions we are using. If Excel is open and if the person opens Windows Explorer and double clicks on a spreadsheet, it comes up in read-only mode saying that is in use by the name of the last person that accessed it. If you cancel and immediately double-click it again, it opens. Workarounds: 1.) close Excel and then double-click the file from explorer. 2.) Open the file from inside Excel. Things that haven't fixed it include applying SP1 and trying both the Microsoft and the Novell clients for Netware. I didn't test changing versions of Office because it is not in the 2003 budget. Any ideas? Thanks! Linda Chase _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee Mon Dec 9 07:20:19 2002 From: toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee (Toomas Aas) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 09:20:19 +0200 Subject: Xeon DP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200212090721.gB97Lcl22919@lv.raad.tartu.ee> Hi! > Currios, what is the processing power of your current server? It's an old IBM Netfinity 3500: dual PII 266 MHz, 512 MB RAM. > A reasonable processor running at 100% utilization working on data > mostly in memory for that amount of time, seems a bit odd. Yes, doesn't it. -- Toomas Aas | toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee | http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/ * I've got a life but it won't run on my operating system. From jserrone at uhs.edu Mon Dec 9 14:14:50 2002 From: jserrone at uhs.edu (Joe Serrone) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 08:14:50 -0600 Subject: Cron.Nlm Message-ID: Can CRON.NLM be used on a Netware 5.1 (SP3) server without any issues? Joe Serrone Systems Manager University of Health Sciences 1750 Independence Avenue Kansas City, MO 64106-1453 Phone: 816.283.2472 Fax: 816.283.0692 E-mail: jserrone at uhs.edu From mcallahan at cdphp.com Mon Dec 9 14:18:56 2002 From: mcallahan at cdphp.com (Michael Callahan) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 09:18:56 -0500 Subject: Cron.Nlm Message-ID: yes >>> jserrone at uhs.edu Monday, December 09, 2002 09:14:50 AM >>> Can CRON.NLM be used on a Netware 5.1 (SP3) server without any issues? Joe Serrone Systems Manager University of Health Sciences 1750 Independence Avenue Kansas City, MO 64106-1453 Phone: 816.283.2472 Fax: 816.283.0692 E-mail: jserrone at uhs.edu _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From opus at myrealbox.com Mon Dec 9 14:49:18 2002 From: opus at myrealbox.com (opus) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 08:49:18 -0600 Subject: Pull dept name using Novell's ODBC driver Message-ID: <1039445358.af267fe0opus@myrealbox.com> Anyone know what the variable name is for pulling in the Department information shown in NWAdmin or ConsoleOne for a user object? I've looked through all of the variables within UserNDS and don't see anything close to department. Also, if it's not found in UserNDS please provide the major category it's found in (e.g., Person, GroupNDS, etc.) Thanks From toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee Mon Dec 9 17:52:55 2002 From: toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee (Toomas Aas) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 19:52:55 +0200 Subject: directory size restrictions In-Reply-To: <3DF4B076.568061D3@softhome.net> Message-ID: <200212091754.gB9HsGC15035@lv.raad.tartu.ee> > In NW6SP2 Nwadmin, in the volume->directory->Details->Facts the > Restrict Size box is grayed Over here, with Netware 5.0 and nwadmn32 ver 5.1.9f, it is also grayed. For checking these boxes I use nwadmnnt instead of nwadmn32. This works great. I don't know if such old thing is still present in NW6. -- Toomas Aas | toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee | http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/ * (A)bort, (R)etry, (I)nfluence with large hammer? From Rpd at co.mason.wa.us Tue Dec 10 00:56:25 2002 From: Rpd at co.mason.wa.us (Bob Deans) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 16:56:25 -0800 Subject: Can't print long docs, Message 305, etc. Message-ID: We had a Public Access printer running on a JetDirect 300x feeding a Laserjet 4 and experienced no problems. I created a Controlled Access Printer feeding the same LJ4 and several people were using it. When I deleted the PA printer, I set up those people who had been using it with the CA printer and did a successful test page. Problem is, when these people print a document longer than about 7 pages, they get a spooler error. It doesn't matter if they are running Win98 or 2000. It also doesn't matter how their spooler is set up. Some of the pages will reach the printer, but will not print and the job will have to be deleted. I tried printing to the LJ 4 from my computer, and got the same results. We tried going to one of the other LJ 4s that we have and got the same results. When I tried printing to an LJ 4100, there was no problem. They are all attached to HP JetDirect 300X print servers. Novell's KB didn't shed any light on this. Ideas, anyone? On top of this, and maybe related, I can no longer create controlled access printers that work. If I load NWAdmin from a NW6 SP2 server, it will create the printer with no errors, but when I double-click the printer, I get the following error: Printer details cannot be viewed. Unable to get printer status. Message number: 305 For more information, look up the following erro code in the online documentation: (0x000B0005) Novell has a couple of TIDs that shed a little light on this problem, but none of them helped me resolve it. The printer exists, but it can't be used. If I loaded NWAdmin from the print server itself (NW6 SP1), then I got another error as soon as it was created: (Error 1026) NetWare Administrator [In the error message title bar] Unknown object type Error code: 0:-601 (Note the error number and error code and refer to the Help Topics - System Manager) Formerly, it would create the printer, and it would behave normally, except that it would not print a long document, either, at least if it was attached to a Laserjet 4Plus (which I set up for testing purposes). When I did this today, it gave me the error and created the printer, but this printer has the same Message 305 problem as the other ones. We have about 40 controlled access printers running without problems. All of them were created before I installed service pack 2. No problems creating or using them. Now this. Any ideas? Robert Deans CCNA, MCSE, CNE, MCP+I, Network+, A+ IS Manager Mason County Washington From carter at ipfw.edu Tue Dec 10 14:08:34 2002 From: carter at ipfw.edu (Jean-Paul Carter) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 09:08:34 -0500 Subject: ws2_32.nlm abend with apache.nlm Message-ID: netware 5.1 sp5 server latest clib, tcpip patches. Running apache. Abends 5 -6 times a day on ws2_32.nlm Having it set to recover from abend keeps the server running just fine. Novell can't figure out the problem without a core dump. Problem is that the c: does not have enough space for a core dump, and the utilities to send the core dump to another server do not work because ws2_32.nlm is required to make those work. Our "spare" external drive cabinet is currently being used so we can't hook up an external drive easily. Anyone seen anything like this before ? I have tried various clib packages, and tcpip updates with no luck. Server WEB1 halted Sunday, December 8, 2002 5:42:54.464 pm Abend 1 on P01: Server-5.00k: Page Fault Processor Exception (Error code 00000000) Registers: CS = 0008 DS = 0010 ES = 0010 FS = 0010 GS = 0010 SS = 0010 EAX = CAE9E7B4 EBX = CAE9E69A ECX = 00000000 EDX = CAEA1224 ESI = 000001FD EDI = CAE9E304 EBP = 000000F8 ESP = CAE9E0A4 EIP = D1C33D8E FLAGS = 00010206 D1C33D8E 8A02 MOV AL,[EDX]=? EIP in WS2_32.NLM at code start +00025D8Eh Access Location: 0xCAEA1224 The violation occurred while processing the following instruction: D1C33D8E 8A02 MOV AL,[EDX] D1C33D90 A8C0 TEST AL,C0 D1C33D92 7569 JNZ D1C33DFD D1C33D94 31C9 XOR ECX,ECX D1C33D96 88C1 MOV CL,AL D1C33D98 39CD CMP EBP,ECX D1C33D9A 7261 JB D1C33DFD D1C33D9C 8D7201 LEA ESI,[EDX+01] D1C33D9F 89DF MOV EDI,EBX D1C33DA1 8AC1 MOV AL,CL Running process: Apache 12 Process Created by: NetWare Application Thread Owned by NLM: APACHE.NLM Stack pointer: CAE9DF94 OS Stack limit: CAE8EC00 Scheduling priority: 67371008 Wait state: 3030070 (Yielded CPU) Stack: FC029D01 (SERVER.NLM|SAlloc+285) --C126DFC0 ? --CAE9E7B4 ? --CAE9E7D0 ? --CAE9E304 ? D1C33FD1 (WS2_32.NLM|GetRecord+21) --CAE9E304 ? --CAE9E7B4 ? --CAE9E694 ? --000000FF ? --C126DFC0 ? --FFFFFFFF ? --FFFFFFFF ? --CAE9E304 ? D1C33C40 (WS2_32.NLM|WS2_32_DNSQuery+65C) --CAE9E304 ? --CAE9E7B4 ? --CAE9E694 ? --000000FF ? --CAE9E7F4 ? --CAE9E7F8 ? --CAE9E7CC ? --CAE9E104 ? --CAE9E7D0 ? --872EEFD8 ? --D29FA438 ? --00000000 ? --D08E2600 ? --00000000 ? FC00E00F (SERVER.NLM|CallRegisteredPollingRoutines+9B) -FC5388E0 (SERVER.NLM|ActivePollElementCount+8) --00000202 ? --00000000 ? --080E5AE5 ? --6FEE62E1 ? --00000202 ? FC02541C (SERVER.NLM|MpSystemWork+44) D532E3DB (WSPIP.NLM|UDP_AttemptFinalSocketClose+11F) --C0B5E500 ? --C0B5E500 ? --CCA0E760 ? --CCA0E2E0 ? D1C2EFC5 (WS2_32.NLM|NiosDUnlinkNode+1D) --CCA0E30C ? --CCA0E2E0 ? --D1CF71C0 ? D5328E5E (WSPIP.NLM|ipmapProtoRelease+A) --D1CF71C0 ? D1C305B8 (WS2_32.NLM|destroySocket+68) --D1CF71C0 ? --00000046 ? FC070F97 (SERVER.NLM|ActivateAddressSpace+57) --00000000 ? --00000000 ? --D52FB700 ? FC1058E9 (SERVER.NLM|ThreadContextSwitch+119) -FC587AD8 (SERVER.NLM|OSAS+0) FC01AB12 (SERVER.NLM|SchedSwitch+2C6) --D29FA440 ? --00000000 ? --00000001 ? --00000202 ? --00000202 ? --C013E500 ? FC00C449 (SERVER.NLM|kExitNetWare+95) --00000001 ? --C1D9DA40 ? FC1061E0 (SERVER.NLM|FunnelingWrapperReturnsHere+25) --D0001004 ? --00000001 ? --C1D9DA40 ? --C013E500 ? --D29FA440 ? D1C29534 (WS2_32.NLM|pleAddRef+280) --D29FA440 ? --00000000 ? --D29FA440 ? --FFFFFFFF ? --00000297 ? --C126DFA0 ? --C2667960 ? D1C25823 (WS2_32.NLM|WSACleanup+D7) --D29FA440 ? --00000000 ? --D1B98CC0 (LOCNLM32.NLM|NWUXEnableOemEuro+45A0) --D29FA440 ? --C126DFA0 ? --C2667960 ? --CAE9E40C ? D1C33D21 (WS2_32.NLM|WS2_32_DNSQuery+73D) --0A20EFD8 ? --4F4F76C0 ? --03454C47 ? --004D4F43 ? --6F630374 ? --0000006D ? --00000000 ? --00000001 ? --00000000 ? D2236230 (MASV.NLM|MASV_SASDeregisterService+1E0) Additional Information: The CPU encountered a problem executing code in WS2_32.NLM. The problem may be in that module or in data passed to that module by a process owned by APACHE.NLM. From tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk Tue Dec 10 14:33:42 2002 From: tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk (Tim Clarke) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 14:33:42 +0000 Subject: COMN cpu hog Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20021210142750.00af8828@man2b> NW6.1sp1 on Dell 2500 1gb ram + raid COMN.NSS v3.01 dated 15-Feb-2002 Had a few cpu hog sessions over the last few months since upgrading this (our primary file and print) server. We need to reboot to clear. Seems to happen (prior to today) if I copy, say, a whole CD of data to the NSS volume on the server. Today it hogged without that stimulus... I'll sp2 tonight plus the nw6nss2b, but I couldn't find anything in the notes for either saying "we've fixed the cpu hogs"!. Clues, thoughts, abuse, sympathy anyone? 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From jwardza at luc.edu Tue Dec 10 14:39:57 2002 From: jwardza at luc.edu (Joe Wardzala) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 08:39:57 -0600 Subject: NW 5.1 SP5 overly CD and Dell Message-ID: I am having a problem installing a new NW 5.1 server using the NW 5.1 SP5 overly CD on a Dell PowerEdge 2650. The problem is when you boot from the CD server loads, then a warning about a bunch of NLM's not loading delay, then repeats several times. The server will never come up to finish or even start the install. The same overly CD works on a HP server. And if I use the non-patched NW 5.1 install CD it works fine on the Dell. What's the trick in getting the overly cd to work on a Dell? Joe Wardzala jwardza at luc.edu http://joe.luc.edu Loyola University Chicago From molm at cvxmck.edu.au Tue Dec 10 15:07:58 2002 From: molm at cvxmck.edu.au (Michael Mollard) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 01:07:58 +1000 Subject: Upgrade NW51-> NW6 question? Message-ID: <3DF68FEE.25030.95D05B@localhost> I am about to undertake a fairly significant upgrade over the next week. I'm taking all of our 6 x NW5.1(sp2a, NDS8) servers, to NW6, sp2,.etc.. A few experiences would be appreciated. Should I do the SP5 patch before doing the NW6 upgrade? Is DS8.7 a safe move after the upgrade, or should I stick with 8.6.x? I'm also upgrading ZFD3.2 to 4 (with any patches). I'm leaving this till all NW6 boxes are up and running and synchronized happily. I'm definitely doing thorough NDS health checks and backup before I start, but are there any other gotchas or words of advice anyone would like to share? Thanks. From JRD at cc.usu.edu Tue Dec 10 15:14:05 2002 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 08:14:05 -0700 (MST) Subject: Upgrade NW51-> NW6 question? Message-ID: <01KPUZ14NGLE91XKZV@cc.usu.edu> >I am about to undertake a fairly significant upgrade over the next week. I'm >taking all of our 6 x NW5.1(sp2a, NDS8) servers, to NW6, sp2,.etc.. -------- I wonder how many times recently we have covered this question. Lots. May I suggest hitting the list's archive on netlab1.usu.edu and see what answers turn up? Asking "5.1 upgrade" shows 891 of them. Joe D. From John at coastal.edu Tue Dec 10 15:58:10 2002 From: John at coastal.edu (John Hanna) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 10:58:10 -0500 Subject: Cron.Nlm In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I beleive cron.nlm actually comes with NW5.1 >-----Original Message----- >From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu >[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu]On Behalf Of Joe Serrone >Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:15 AM >To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu >Subject: Cron.Nlm > > >Can CRON.NLM be used on a Netware 5.1 (SP3) server without any issues? > >Joe Serrone >Systems Manager >University of Health Sciences >1750 Independence Avenue >Kansas City, MO 64106-1453 >Phone: 816.283.2472 >Fax: 816.283.0692 >E-mail: jserrone at uhs.edu >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > From surfenergy at adelphia.net Tue Dec 10 18:07:27 2002 From: surfenergy at adelphia.net (John Arnado) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 10:07:27 -0800 Subject: DHCP and IP Address Conflicts References: Message-ID: <3DF62D5F.FA6450BE@adelphia.net> I'm running DHCP 3.01 on a Netware 5.1 SP3. The problem that I'm encountering is IP address conflicts. I have a pool setup of 192.168.1.1-192.168.1.253 and the lease is for 3 days. I have some manual IP addresses set up, for example, 192.168.1.50 and in the morning someone will be assigined that same address from the pool dynamically and cause a conflict. Then when trying to release and renew the IP address on the client it returns the same address and won't release it. In order to get it to release the address, I have to assign a manual address. Now, isn't DHCP supposed to not assign an address that is designated as a manual address. I've also tried setting up the address as an exclusion and it has not solved the problem. Thanks, John A. From carter at ipfw.edu Tue Dec 10 18:57:47 2002 From: carter at ipfw.edu (Jean-Paul Carter) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 13:57:47 -0500 Subject: DHCP and IP Address Conflicts Message-ID: I was having a similar problem. What version of dhcpsrvr.nlm are you using. There was an update that made things worse, now the new one seems to fix a few of the problems. We still have a problem along your lines. Boot a machine, it gets an address, release the address, manually assign the machine an address (different from the one it dhcp'd) reboot the machine and it gets the old address not the manualy assigned address. Now I know that 98 especially does not like to give up its address. Blowing away the dhcp reg key and setting the registry to release the ip address upon shutdown does not fix the problem either. We have done this senerio many times on the MS dhcp server and when the machine reboots and asks if it can re use the old ip #, the ms dhcp server basically says no, use this manual address instead. The Novell one does not seem to do this unless you unload and reload dhcpsrvr. John Carter Senior Network Systems Programmer ITServices Indiana Purdue University Ft. Wayne 2101 Coliseum Blvd Ft. Wayne IN 46805 260 481-5473 260 481-4152 fax carter at ipfw.edu >>> surfenergy at adelphia.net 12/10/02 01:07PM >>> I'm running DHCP 3.01 on a Netware 5.1 SP3. The problem that I'm encountering is IP address conflicts. I have a pool setup of 192.168.1.1-192.168.1.253 and the lease is for 3 days. I have some manual IP addresses set up, for example, 192.168.1.50 and in the morning someone will be assigined that same address from the pool dynamically and cause a conflict. Then when trying to release and renew the IP address on the client it returns the same address and won't release it. In order to get it to release the address, I have to assign a manual address. Now, isn't DHCP supposed to not assign an address that is designated as a manual address. I've also tried setting up the address as an exclusion and it has not solved the problem. Thanks, John A. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From surfenergy at adelphia.net Tue Dec 10 20:32:11 2002 From: surfenergy at adelphia.net (John Arnado) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 12:32:11 -0800 Subject: DHCP and IP Address Conflicts References: Message-ID: <3DF64F4B.4229C516@adelphia.net> I'm running dhcpsrvr.nlm Ver 3.01h Dated May 4, 2002. Yes, the Win98 machines are not releasing their addresses; meaning, I'll try to relase and it will actually release, but when renewing it gives back the same IP address. The other problem is that the address pool is 192.168.1.1 - 192.168.1.253 and if I assign a manual address, for example, 192.168.1.50 through DNS/DHCP Mgt Console, an address conflict will arise. Another user will be assigned the same address dynamically. Jean-Paul Carter wrote: > I was having a similar problem. What version of dhcpsrvr.nlm are you using. There was an update that made things worse, now the new one seems to fix a few of the problems. > > We still have a problem along your lines. Boot a machine, it gets an address, release the address, manually assign the machine an address (different from the one it dhcp'd) reboot the machine and it gets the old address not the manualy assigned address. > > Now I know that 98 especially does not like to give up its address. Blowing away the dhcp reg key and setting the registry to release the ip address upon shutdown does not fix the problem either. We have done this senerio many times on the MS dhcp server and when the machine reboots and asks if it can re use the old ip #, the ms dhcp server basically says no, use this manual address instead. The Novell one does not seem to do this unless you unload and reload dhcpsrvr. > > John Carter > Senior Network Systems Programmer > ITServices > Indiana Purdue University Ft. Wayne > 2101 Coliseum Blvd > Ft. Wayne IN 46805 > 260 481-5473 > 260 481-4152 fax > carter at ipfw.edu > > >>> surfenergy at adelphia.net 12/10/02 01:07PM >>> > I'm running DHCP 3.01 on a Netware 5.1 SP3. The problem that I'm > encountering is IP address conflicts. I have a pool setup of > 192.168.1.1-192.168.1.253 and the lease is for 3 days. I have some > manual IP addresses set up, for example, 192.168.1.50 and in the morning > someone will be assigined that same address from the pool dynamically and > cause a > conflict. Then when trying to release and renew the IP address on the > client > it returns the same address and won't release it. In order to get it to > release the address, I have > to assign a manual address. Now, isn't DHCP supposed to not assign an > address that is designated as a > manual address. I've also tried setting up the address as an exclusion and > it has not solved the problem. > > Thanks, > John A. > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From John at coastal.edu Tue Dec 10 21:23:19 2002 From: John at coastal.edu (John Hanna) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 16:23:19 -0500 Subject: DHCP and IP Address Conflicts In-Reply-To: <3DF62D5F.FA6450BE@adelphia.net> Message-ID: I have found that changes made in DNS/DHCP management console does not take affect on NW5.1 sp4 until you unload dhcpsrvr.nlm and reload it. >-----Original Message----- >From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu >[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu]On Behalf Of John Arnado >Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 1:07 PM >To: Novell LAN Interest Group >Subject: DHCP and IP Address Conflicts > > >I'm running DHCP 3.01 on a Netware 5.1 SP3. The problem that I'm >encountering is IP address conflicts. I have a pool setup of >192.168.1.1-192.168.1.253 and the lease is for 3 days. I have some >manual IP addresses set up, for example, 192.168.1.50 and in the morning >someone will be assigined that same address from the pool dynamically and >cause a >conflict. Then when trying to release and renew the IP address on the >client >it returns the same address and won't release it. In order to get it to >release the address, I have >to assign a manual address. Now, isn't DHCP supposed to not assign an >address that is designated as a >manual address. I've also tried setting up the address as an exclusion and >it has not solved the problem. > >Thanks, >John A. > > > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > From surfenergy at adelphia.net Tue Dec 10 22:49:06 2002 From: surfenergy at adelphia.net (John Arnado) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 14:49:06 -0800 Subject: DHCP and IP Address Conflicts References: Message-ID: <3DF66F62.D2FB9975@adelphia.net> I'll try it. Thanks. John A. John Hanna wrote: > I have found that changes made in DNS/DHCP management console does not take > affect on NW5.1 sp4 until you unload dhcpsrvr.nlm and reload it. > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu > >[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu]On Behalf Of John Arnado > >Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 1:07 PM > >To: Novell LAN Interest Group > >Subject: DHCP and IP Address Conflicts > > > > > >I'm running DHCP 3.01 on a Netware 5.1 SP3. The problem that I'm > >encountering is IP address conflicts. I have a pool setup of > >192.168.1.1-192.168.1.253 and the lease is for 3 days. I have some > >manual IP addresses set up, for example, 192.168.1.50 and in the morning > >someone will be assigined that same address from the pool dynamically and > >cause a > >conflict. Then when trying to release and renew the IP address on the > >client > >it returns the same address and won't release it. In order to get it to > >release the address, I have > >to assign a manual address. Now, isn't DHCP supposed to not assign an > >address that is designated as a > >manual address. I've also tried setting up the address as an exclusion and > >it has not solved the problem. > > > >Thanks, > >John A. > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Novell mailing list > >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > >http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From fubarsnafu69 at yahoo.com Tue Dec 10 22:55:49 2002 From: fubarsnafu69 at yahoo.com (Fred James) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 14:55:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: NW 5.1 SP5 overly CD and Dell In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021210225549.70714.qmail@web10702.mail.yahoo.com> I have not done this, but I know on a regular server it needs the files=60 & buffers=60 in config.sys, it does what you have seen if not set correctly. --- Joe Wardzala wrote: > I am having a problem installing a new NW 5.1 server using the NW 5.1 > SP5 overly CD on a Dell PowerEdge 2650. The problem is when you boot > from the CD server loads, then a warning about a bunch of NLM's not > loading delay, then repeats several times. The server will never come > up to finish or even start the install. > > The same overly CD works on a HP server. And if I use the non-patched > NW 5.1 install CD it works fine on the Dell. > > What's the trick in getting the overly cd to work on a Dell? > > > > Joe Wardzala > jwardza at luc.edu > http://joe.luc.edu > Loyola University Chicago > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From gordon.christie at centrelink.gov.au Tue Dec 10 22:56:12 2002 From: gordon.christie at centrelink.gov.au (gordon.christie at centrelink.gov.au) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 09:56:12 +1100 Subject: NW 5.1 SP5 overly CD and Dell Message-ID: Joe, What version of the PERC2.HAM direver are you using? I believe the one that comes with SP5 is version 2.70 and to get it to work with the new BIOS (2.7-0 or higher) that is on the Dell 2650 you might need to get the 2.71 PERC2.HAM driver (I think from DELL). This is the only version of the driver that works here for the 2650 servers as their BIOS is at the latest. Hope this helps, Gordon Christie Centrelink Australia P.S. If you need the new driver I can send it to you off list. Just let me know. "Joe Wardzala" To: Sent by: cc: novell-bounces at netl Subject: NW 5.1 SP5 overly CD and Dell ab1.usu.edu 11/12/2002 01:39 Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group I am having a problem installing a new NW 5.1 server using the NW 5.1 SP5 overly CD on a Dell PowerEdge 2650. The problem is when you boot from the CD server loads, then a warning about a bunch of NLM's not loading delay, then repeats several times. The server will never come up to finish or even start the install. The same overly CD works on a HP server. And if I use the non-patched NW 5.1 install CD it works fine on the Dell. What's the trick in getting the overly cd to work on a Dell? Joe Wardzala jwardza at luc.edu http://joe.luc.edu Loyola University Chicago _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo Important: This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is confidential, commercially valuable or subject to legal or parliamentary privilege. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that any review, re-transmission, disclosure, use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited by several Commonwealth Acts of Parliament. If you have received this communication in error please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this transmission together with any attachments. From jwardza at luc.edu Tue Dec 10 23:33:58 2002 From: jwardza at luc.edu (Joe Wardzala) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 17:33:58 -0600 Subject: NW 5.1 SP5 overly CD and Dell Message-ID: I did not have my morning coffee today. Turns out there is not a problem with the NW 5.1 SP5 Overlay (spell it right this time). It was a problem with the SP4 overlay CD. Turns out the the SP5 overlay CD does work on Dell. Joe >>> fubarsnafu69 at yahoo.com 12/10/02 16:57 PM >>> I have not done this, but I know on a regular server it needs the files=60 & buffers=60 in config.sys, it does what you have seen if not set correctly. --- Joe Wardzala wrote: > I am having a problem installing a new NW 5.1 server using the NW 5.1 > SP5 overly CD on a Dell PowerEdge 2650. The problem is when you boot > from the CD server loads, then a warning about a bunch of NLM's not > loading delay, then repeats several times. The server will never come > up to finish or even start the install. > > The same overly CD works on a HP server. And if I use the non-patched > NW 5.1 install CD it works fine on the Dell. > > What's the trick in getting the overly cd to work on a Dell? > > > > Joe Wardzala > jwardza at luc.edu > http://joe.luc.edu > Loyola University Chicago > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From carter at ipfw.edu Wed Dec 11 04:34:19 2002 From: carter at ipfw.edu (Jean-Paul Carter) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 23:34:19 -0500 Subject: DHCP and IP Address Conflicts Message-ID: Why for the specific reason of not having to store addresses in a spreadsheet. We do exclude off a chunk of addresses at the low end of the subnet and when we need to then "dhcp hard code" an address instead of letting it pick one, then we change an excluded address to a manual address. This method worked fine for the ms dhcp server since the early days of NT 4. The problem comes in with Novells DHCP server since many changes don't take effect until a dhcpsrvr load/unload. John Carter Senior Network Systems Programmer ITServices Indiana Purdue University Ft. Wayne 2101 Coliseum Blvd Ft. Wayne IN 46805 260 481-5473 260 481-4152 fax carter at ipfw.edu >>> "Dan D'Alessandro" 12/10/02 02:46PM >>> Why would you create a DHCP range that would include static addresses? I begin my dhcp range at 10.2.72.101. I use 10.2.72.1 - 10.2.72.100 for static addressing certain printers and workstations or servers and keep tabs on what devices have what address in a spreadsheet. I know this was a new feature of DHCP in nw5 but I never relied on DHCP to test to see if a certain IP address was currently assigned. Thank You, Dan D'Alessandro ITT FT/SP NMC 1.847.470.5260 dan.d'alessandro at nmc.itt.com >>> carter at ipfw.edu 12/10/02 12:57PM >>> I was having a similar problem. What version of dhcpsrvr.nlm are you using. There was an update that made things worse, now the new one seems to fix a few of the problems. We still have a problem along your lines. Boot a machine, it gets an address, release the address, manually assign the machine an address (different from the one it dhcp'd) reboot the machine and it gets the old address not the manualy assigned address. Now I know that 98 especially does not like to give up its address. Blowing away the dhcp reg key and setting the registry to release the ip address upon shutdown does not fix the problem either. We have done this senerio many times on the MS dhcp server and when the machine reboots and asks if it can re use the old ip #, the ms dhcp server basically says no, use this manual address instead. The Novell one does not seem to do this unless you unload and reload dhcpsrvr. John Carter Senior Network Systems Programmer ITServices Indiana Purdue University Ft. Wayne 2101 Coliseum Blvd Ft. Wayne IN 46805 260 481-5473 260 481-4152 fax carter at ipfw.edu >>> surfenergy at adelphia.net 12/10/02 01:07PM >>> I'm running DHCP 3.01 on a Netware 5.1 SP3. The problem that I'm encountering is IP address conflicts. I have a pool setup of 192.168.1.1-192.168.1.253 and the lease is for 3 days. I have some manual IP addresses set up, for example, 192.168.1.50 and in the morning someone will be assigined that same address from the pool dynamically and cause a conflict. Then when trying to release and renew the IP address on the client it returns the same address and won't release it. In order to get it to release the address, I have to assign a manual address. Now, isn't DHCP supposed to not assign an address that is designated as a manual address. I've also tried setting up the address as an exclusion and it has not solved the problem. Thanks, John A. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From carter at ipfw.edu Wed Dec 11 04:38:48 2002 From: carter at ipfw.edu (Jean-Paul Carter) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 23:38:48 -0500 Subject: DHCP and IP Address Conflicts Message-ID: dhcpsrve is up to 3.12.03 if you want to see how far you get with the new one compared to the old version. I suspect though that you will find a unload/load of dhcpsrvr would probably solve your problem. My testing has always worked by doing that. I don't like to do it, I feel it should refresh itself a bit faster. John Carter Senior Network Systems Programmer ITServices Indiana Purdue University Ft. Wayne 2101 Coliseum Blvd Ft. Wayne IN 46805 260 481-5473 260 481-4152 fax carter at ipfw.edu >>> John Arnado 12/10/02 03:32PM >>> I'm running dhcpsrvr.nlm Ver 3.01h Dated May 4, 2002. Yes, the Win98 machines are not releasing their addresses; meaning, I'll try to relase and it will actually release, but when renewing it gives back the same IP address. The other problem is that the address pool is 192.168.1.1 - 192.168.1.253 and if I assign a manual address, for example, 192.168.1.50 through DNS/DHCP Mgt Console, an address conflict will arise. Another user will be assigned the same address dynamically. Jean-Paul Carter wrote: > I was having a similar problem. What version of dhcpsrvr.nlm are you using. There was an update that made things worse, now the new one seems to fix a few of the problems. > > We still have a problem along your lines. Boot a machine, it gets an address, release the address, manually assign the machine an address (different from the one it dhcp'd) reboot the machine and it gets the old address not the manualy assigned address. > > Now I know that 98 especially does not like to give up its address. Blowing away the dhcp reg key and setting the registry to release the ip address upon shutdown does not fix the problem either. We have done this senerio many times on the MS dhcp server and when the machine reboots and asks if it can re use the old ip #, the ms dhcp server basically says no, use this manual address instead. The Novell one does not seem to do this unless you unload and reload dhcpsrvr. > > John Carter > Senior Network Systems Programmer > ITServices > Indiana Purdue University Ft. Wayne > 2101 Coliseum Blvd > Ft. Wayne IN 46805 > 260 481-5473 > 260 481-4152 fax > carter at ipfw.edu > > >>> surfenergy at adelphia.net 12/10/02 01:07PM >>> > I'm running DHCP 3.01 on a Netware 5.1 SP3. The problem that I'm > encountering is IP address conflicts. I have a pool setup of > 192.168.1.1-192.168.1.253 and the lease is for 3 days. I have some > manual IP addresses set up, for example, 192.168.1.50 and in the morning > someone will be assigined that same address from the pool dynamically and > cause a > conflict. Then when trying to release and renew the IP address on the > client > it returns the same address and won't release it. In order to get it to > release the address, I have > to assign a manual address. Now, isn't DHCP supposed to not assign an > address that is designated as a > manual address. I've also tried setting up the address as an exclusion and > it has not solved the problem. > > Thanks, > John A. > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From ochrist1 at twcny.rr.com Wed Dec 11 04:53:12 2002 From: ochrist1 at twcny.rr.com (Otto Christofferson) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 23:53:12 -0500 Subject: XP Pro having trouble with Excel spreadsheets on Netware servers In-Reply-To: <20021207T115051Z_95A200050000@steadfast.ca> Message-ID: I have had difficulty with Windows Explorer in copying files to NetWare servers also...it's really weird...It has to be something with XP. I'm not experiencing it with 2000 or any prior OS. It just freezes, but appears to be copying (the folders keep rolling along). I can copy stuff from the command prompt without any problem. Otto -----Original Message----- From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu]On Behalf Of Greg Bembridge, CET, CNE, MCP Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 9:50 AM To: Novell LAN Interest Group Subject: Re: XP Pro having trouble with Excel spreadsheets on Netware servers Interesting Linda. I was talking with someone the other night that has an XP Pro workstation on a Novell server, and she is unable to save XL documents to a directory on the server. She can save to the workstation no problem, or copy the document via floppy to another workstation (non-XP) and save to the server from there. But not direct from the XP Pro workstation to the server. Sounded pretty weird to me, I haven't actually been to that clients site, but apparently their Novell team have tried a number of actions - all unsuccessful. Greg Greg Bembridge, CET, CNE, MCP Steadfast Computer Network Services Halifax, Nova Scotia greg at steadfast.ca www.steadfast.ca >>> Linda 12/05/02 12:16PM >>> We began introducing XP Pro workstations this summer and didn't have any problems until we got to our sites with Novell servers. This problem is only with XP workstations accessing Netware servers. We use Office 97. We've duplicated the problem on Netware 3.12, 4.11 and 5 which are the versions we are using. If Excel is open and if the person opens Windows Explorer and double clicks on a spreadsheet, it comes up in read-only mode saying that is in use by the name of the last person that accessed it. If you cancel and immediately double-click it again, it opens. Workarounds: 1.) close Excel and then double-click the file from explorer. 2.) Open the file from inside Excel. Things that haven't fixed it include applying SP1 and trying both the Microsoft and the Novell clients for Netware. I didn't test changing versions of Office because it is not in the 2003 budget. Any ideas? Thanks! Linda Chase _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From prandal at herefordshire.gov.uk Wed Dec 11 09:46:08 2002 From: prandal at herefordshire.gov.uk (Randal, Phil) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 09:46:08 -0000 Subject: XP Pro having trouble with Excel spreadsheets on Netware serv ers Message-ID: <0EBC45FCABFC95428EBFC3A51B368C9501B04E@jessica.herefordshire.gov.uk> Are you using client 4.83SP1 plus NT483PT4? If not, does that combination help? Phil --------------------------------------------- Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK > -----Original Message----- > From: Otto Christofferson [mailto:ochrist1 at twcny.rr.com] > Sent: 11 December 2002 04:53 > To: Novell LAN Interest Group > Subject: RE: XP Pro having trouble with Excel spreadsheets on Netware > servers > > > I have had difficulty with Windows Explorer in copying files > to NetWare > servers also...it's really weird...It has to be > something with XP. I'm not experiencing it with 2000 or any > prior OS. It > just freezes, but appears to be copying (the folders > keep rolling along). I can copy stuff from the command > prompt without any > problem. > > Otto > > -----Original Message----- > From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu > [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu]On Behalf Of Greg > Bembridge, CET, > CNE, MCP > Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 9:50 AM > To: Novell LAN Interest Group > Subject: Re: XP Pro having trouble with Excel spreadsheets on Netware > servers > > > Interesting Linda. I was talking with someone the other > night that has an > XP Pro workstation on a Novell server, and she is unable to save XL > documents to a directory on the server. She can save to the > workstation no > problem, or copy the document via floppy to another > workstation (non-XP) and > save to the server from there. But not direct from the XP > Pro workstation > to the server. Sounded pretty weird to me, I haven't > actually been to that > clients site, but apparently their Novell team have tried a number of > actions - all unsuccessful. > > Greg > > Greg Bembridge, CET, CNE, MCP > Steadfast Computer Network Services > Halifax, Nova Scotia > greg at steadfast.ca > www.steadfast.ca > > > >>> Linda 12/05/02 12:16PM >>> > We began introducing XP Pro workstations this summer and > didn't have any > problems until we got to our sites with Novell servers. This > problem is > only with XP workstations accessing Netware servers. We use Office 97. > We've duplicated the problem on Netware 3.12, 4.11 and 5 which are the > versions we are using. > > If Excel is open and if the person opens Windows Explorer and double > clicks on a spreadsheet, it comes up in read-only mode saying > that is in > use by the name of the last person that accessed it. If you > cancel and > immediately double-click it again, it opens. Workarounds: 1.) close > Excel and then double-click the file from explorer. 2.) > Open the file > from inside Excel. > > Things that haven't fixed it include applying SP1 and trying both the > Microsoft and the Novell clients for Netware. I didn't test changing > versions of Office because it is not in the 2003 budget. > > Any ideas? > Thanks! > Linda Chase > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > From acquistj at lan.newpaltz.edu Wed Dec 11 12:05:14 2002 From: acquistj at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 07:05:14 -0500 Subject: DHCP and IP Address Conflicts Message-ID: I've always found in necessary to unload/reload dhcpsrvr to make it aware of *any* changes. Also, when changing from a dynamically assigned address, to a "manual" dhcp address, it is necessary to delete any dynamic address previously assigned to a MAC, in order for it to hand out a the new one. If it already "knows" a MAC, it will not hand out a new IP to it. ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- "Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it" http://www.congress.org http://www.tompaine.com --------------------------------------------------- >>> carter at ipfw.edu 12/10/02 23:35 PM >>> Why for the specific reason of not having to store addresses in a spreadsheet. We do exclude off a chunk of addresses at the low end of the subnet and when we need to then "dhcp hard code" an address instead of letting it pick one, then we change an excluded address to a manual address. This method worked fine for the ms dhcp server since the early days of NT 4. The problem comes in with Novells DHCP server since many changes don't take effect until a dhcpsrvr load/unload. John Carter Senior Network Systems Programmer ITServices Indiana Purdue University Ft. Wayne 2101 Coliseum Blvd Ft. Wayne IN 46805 260 481-5473 260 481-4152 fax carter at ipfw.edu >>> "Dan D'Alessandro" 12/10/02 02:46PM >>> Why would you create a DHCP range that would include static addresses? I begin my dhcp range at 10.2.72.101. I use 10.2.72.1 - 10.2.72.100 for static addressing certain printers and workstations or servers and keep tabs on what devices have what address in a spreadsheet. I know this was a new feature of DHCP in nw5 but I never relied on DHCP to test to see if a certain IP address was currently assigned. Thank You, Dan D'Alessandro ITT FT/SP NMC 1.847.470.5260 dan.d'alessandro at nmc.itt.com >>> carter at ipfw.edu 12/10/02 12:57PM >>> I was having a similar problem. What version of dhcpsrvr.nlm are you using. There was an update that made things worse, now the new one seems to fix a few of the problems. We still have a problem along your lines. Boot a machine, it gets an address, release the address, manually assign the machine an address (different from the one it dhcp'd) reboot the machine and it gets the old address not the manualy assigned address. Now I know that 98 especially does not like to give up its address. Blowing away the dhcp reg key and setting the registry to release the ip address upon shutdown does not fix the problem either. We have done this senerio many times on the MS dhcp server and when the machine reboots and asks if it can re use the old ip #, the ms dhcp server basically says no, use this manual address instead. The Novell one does not seem to do this unless you unload and reload dhcpsrvr. John Carter Senior Network Systems Programmer ITServices Indiana Purdue University Ft. Wayne 2101 Coliseum Blvd Ft. Wayne IN 46805 260 481-5473 260 481-4152 fax carter at ipfw.edu >>> surfenergy at adelphia.net 12/10/02 01:07PM >>> I'm running DHCP 3.01 on a Netware 5.1 SP3. The problem that I'm encountering is IP address conflicts. I have a pool setup of 192.168.1.1-192.168.1.253 and the lease is for 3 days. I have some manual IP addresses set up, for example, 192.168.1.50 and in the morning someone will be assigined that same address from the pool dynamically and cause a conflict. Then when trying to release and renew the IP address on the client it returns the same address and won't release it. In order to get it to release the address, I have to assign a manual address. Now, isn't DHCP supposed to not assign an address that is designated as a manual address. I've also tried setting up the address as an exclusion and it has not solved the problem. Thanks, John A. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From Patrick at spm.org.za Wed Dec 11 13:02:00 2002 From: Patrick at spm.org.za (Patrick Medhurst) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 15:02:00 +0200 Subject: Novell DNS Question Message-ID: I am using the Novell NDS server (named.nlm) and have a CNAME defined as such: testwts IN CNAME sapwts.sapwts.local. How do I forward requests for testwts.mycompany.com to a DNS server running internally on Windows 2000 hosting the sapwts.local domain, but still forward external queries to my ISP's DNS? TIA From jserrone at uhs.edu Wed Dec 11 13:20:10 2002 From: jserrone at uhs.edu (Joe Serrone) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 07:20:10 -0600 Subject: OT: Student Laptops Message-ID: We are a medical university running Netware 5.1 (SP3). We use GroupWise 6 as our mail program and our students access it via the Web, Staff and Faculty use the client for access. Our University has implemented a requirement for the students to purchase Laptops when they start each year. My question is: What are other people doing - Do you allow the students to plug their laptops into your network (we do not have control over what software or OS is installed on these laptops). Do you worry about hacking, viruses, etc....? Any thoughts or testimonials is appreciated.. Thanks Joe Serrone Systems Manager University of Health Sciences 1750 Independence Avenue Kansas City, MO 64106-1453 Phone: 816.283.2472 Fax: 816.283.0692 E-mail: jserrone at uhs.edu From jgroetsema at uop.edu Wed Dec 11 17:27:25 2002 From: jgroetsema at uop.edu (Jeff Groetsema) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 09:27:25 -0800 Subject: DHCP and IP Address Conflicts Message-ID: All, I don't understand the issues people are having with Novells DHCP service and making changes. All that is required after a change (assuming ver 3.x is being used) is to highlight the server object in the Java gui, and then click on the Stop/Start Services button. Once the server object gets the red brackets (service is stopped), click the Stop/Start Services button again. Yes, some times there is a bit of a delay as the Java app is not the fastest, but I have not had any problems with it. Stopping and restarting a service like this after making changes is par for the course. We are moving to Network Regisrtrar and it requires a similar action. I suspect the reason for this is that to make these services faster and more responsive, data is cached in memory. When changes are made and saved, they are made to the tables stored on media. For these changes to go into affect, the memory cache must be dumped and reloaded from the table. Jeff >>> carter at ipfw.edu 12/10/02 08:34PM >>> Why for the specific reason of not having to store addresses in a spreadsheet. We do exclude off a chunk of addresses at the low end of the subnet and when we need to then "dhcp hard code" an address instead of letting it pick one, then we change an excluded address to a manual address. This method worked fine for the ms dhcp server since the early days of NT 4. The problem comes in with Novells DHCP server since many changes don't take effect until a dhcpsrvr load/unload. John Carter Senior Network Systems Programmer ITServices Indiana Purdue University Ft. Wayne 2101 Coliseum Blvd Ft. Wayne IN 46805 260 481-5473 260 481-4152 fax carter at ipfw.edu >>> "Dan D'Alessandro" 12/10/02 02:46PM >>> Why would you create a DHCP range that would include static addresses? I begin my dhcp range at 10.2.72.101. I use 10.2.72.1 - 10.2.72.100 for static addressing certain printers and workstations or servers and keep tabs on what devices have what address in a spreadsheet. I know this was a new feature of DHCP in nw5 but I never relied on DHCP to test to see if a certain IP address was currently assigned. Thank You, Dan D'Alessandro ITT FT/SP NMC 1.847.470.5260 dan.d'alessandro at nmc.itt.com >>> carter at ipfw.edu 12/10/02 12:57PM >>> I was having a similar problem. What version of dhcpsrvr.nlm are you using. There was an update that made things worse, now the new one seems to fix a few of the problems. We still have a problem along your lines. Boot a machine, it gets an address, release the address, manually assign the machine an address (different from the one it dhcp'd) reboot the machine and it gets the old address not the manualy assigned address. Now I know that 98 especially does not like to give up its address. Blowing away the dhcp reg key and setting the registry to release the ip address upon shutdown does not fix the problem either. We have done this senerio many times on the MS dhcp server and when the machine reboots and asks if it can re use the old ip #, the ms dhcp server basically says no, use this manual address instead. The Novell one does not seem to do this unless you unload and reload dhcpsrvr. John Carter Senior Network Systems Programmer ITServices Indiana Purdue University Ft. Wayne 2101 Coliseum Blvd Ft. Wayne IN 46805 260 481-5473 260 481-4152 fax carter at ipfw.edu >>> surfenergy at adelphia.net 12/10/02 01:07PM >>> I'm running DHCP 3.01 on a Netware 5.1 SP3. The problem that I'm encountering is IP address conflicts. I have a pool setup of 192.168.1.1-192.168.1.253 and the lease is for 3 days. I have some manual IP addresses set up, for example, 192.168.1.50 and in the morning someone will be assigined that same address from the pool dynamically and cause a conflict. Then when trying to release and renew the IP address on the client it returns the same address and won't release it. In order to get it to release the address, I have to assign a manual address. Now, isn't DHCP supposed to not assign an address that is designated as a manual address. I've also tried setting up the address as an exclusion and it has not solved the problem. Thanks, John A. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From carter at ipfw.edu Wed Dec 11 17:46:06 2002 From: carter at ipfw.edu (Jean-Paul Carter) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 12:46:06 -0500 Subject: DHCP and IP Address Conflicts Message-ID: Ok, your second paragraph makes sense. The scenario that we had does not happen much except when we were testing some things in the lab so it is not a super big deal, just know that we did not have to do anything special with the MS dhcp (which we are trying to get off of). You stating that the "network registrar" requires a stop and restart and brining up the point about memory cacheing makes sense. Thanks for your view on this... John Carter Senior Network Systems Programmer ITServices Indiana Purdue University Ft. Wayne 2101 Coliseum Blvd Ft. Wayne IN 46805 260 481-5473 260 481-4152 fax carter at ipfw.edu >>> jgroetsema at uop.edu 12/11/02 12:27PM >>> All, I don't understand the issues people are having with Novells DHCP service and making changes. All that is required after a change (assuming ver 3.x is being used) is to highlight the server object in the Java gui, and then click on the Stop/Start Services button. Once the server object gets the red brackets (service is stopped), click the Stop/Start Services button again. Yes, some times there is a bit of a delay as the Java app is not the fastest, but I have not had any problems with it. Stopping and restarting a service like this after making changes is par for the course. We are moving to Network Regisrtrar and it requires a similar action. I suspect the reason for this is that to make these services faster and more responsive, data is cached in memory. When changes are made and saved, they are made to the tables stored on media. For these changes to go into affect, the memory cache must be dumped and reloaded from the table. Jeff >>> carter at ipfw.edu 12/10/02 08:34PM >>> Why for the specific reason of not having to store addresses in a spreadsheet. We do exclude off a chunk of addresses at the low end of the subnet and when we need to then "dhcp hard code" an address instead of letting it pick one, then we change an excluded address to a manual address. This method worked fine for the ms dhcp server since the early days of NT 4. The problem comes in with Novells DHCP server since many changes don't take effect until a dhcpsrvr load/unload. John Carter Senior Network Systems Programmer ITServices Indiana Purdue University Ft. Wayne 2101 Coliseum Blvd Ft. Wayne IN 46805 260 481-5473 260 481-4152 fax carter at ipfw.edu >>> "Dan D'Alessandro" 12/10/02 02:46PM >>> Why would you create a DHCP range that would include static addresses? I begin my dhcp range at 10.2.72.101. I use 10.2.72.1 - 10.2.72.100 for static addressing certain printers and workstations or servers and keep tabs on what devices have what address in a spreadsheet. I know this was a new feature of DHCP in nw5 but I never relied on DHCP to test to see if a certain IP address was currently assigned. Thank You, Dan D'Alessandro ITT FT/SP NMC 1.847.470.5260 dan.d'alessandro at nmc.itt.com >>> carter at ipfw.edu 12/10/02 12:57PM >>> I was having a similar problem. What version of dhcpsrvr.nlm are you using. There was an update that made things worse, now the new one seems to fix a few of the problems. We still have a problem along your lines. Boot a machine, it gets an address, release the address, manually assign the machine an address (different from the one it dhcp'd) reboot the machine and it gets the old address not the manualy assigned address. Now I know that 98 especially does not like to give up its address. Blowing away the dhcp reg key and setting the registry to release the ip address upon shutdown does not fix the problem either. We have done this senerio many times on the MS dhcp server and when the machine reboots and asks if it can re use the old ip #, the ms dhcp server basically says no, use this manual address instead. The Novell one does not seem to do this unless you unload and reload dhcpsrvr. John Carter Senior Network Systems Programmer ITServices Indiana Purdue University Ft. Wayne 2101 Coliseum Blvd Ft. Wayne IN 46805 260 481-5473 260 481-4152 fax carter at ipfw.edu >>> surfenergy at adelphia.net 12/10/02 01:07PM >>> I'm running DHCP 3.01 on a Netware 5.1 SP3. The problem that I'm encountering is IP address conflicts. I have a pool setup of 192.168.1.1-192.168.1.253 and the lease is for 3 days. I have some manual IP addresses set up, for example, 192.168.1.50 and in the morning someone will be assigined that same address from the pool dynamically and cause a conflict. Then when trying to release and renew the IP address on the client it returns the same address and won't release it. In order to get it to release the address, I have to assign a manual address. Now, isn't DHCP supposed to not assign an address that is designated as a manual address. I've also tried setting up the address as an exclusion and it has not solved the problem. Thanks, John A. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From fubarsnafu69 at yahoo.com Wed Dec 11 18:14:11 2002 From: fubarsnafu69 at yahoo.com (Fred James) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 10:14:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: Found it - program to delete multiple files on multiple drives In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021211181411.46305.qmail@web10703.mail.yahoo.com> A few months ago we talk about a program to delete multiple files with certain different extension on multiple drives. I want to delete all *.bak & *.tmp files on 8 different network drives. With windows you would have to do a search 16 times to find all of them. This program will do it all at once. This is a basic test file. You get to specify the starting/ending drive letter and as many file specs as you need. Basically the programs search 1 drive at a time for each file spec you give it until it has gone through them all, then it changes drives and starts again. It can search any drive letter in system, but if their is a cdrom with no drive in it, it will halt waiting on a user response It basically creates a BAT file by inserting DEL command in front of the full path of file to be deleted. It works fine on a DOS v6.22 & client 32 W/S - uses standard 8.3 file names. I used qbasic for test. On test on win98 with client 3.30 w/s the program works but it has a problem with long files names with spaces in them, DEL command didn't like long file names with spaces in them. I used qbasic from DOS 6.22 I tried different ways to get it to enclose the file name/path in quotes but no luck yet. On test of Win2000 & Client 4.83sp1 the program will search for 1st file spec only for all drives, I used qbasic from DOS 6.22. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From rpcarroll at juno.com Wed Dec 11 18:36:33 2002 From: rpcarroll at juno.com (Robert Carroll) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 13:36:33 -0500 Subject: DHCP and IP Address Conflicts References: Message-ID: <00b301c2a144$3dfe01a0$0a01017b@E2K2Q6> I've had the same experience as Joe Acquisto. I have used Linksys routers at times as DHCP servers, and there is a DHCP table maintained by the router. It will always assign the same IP address to a given MAC address unless the table is cleared. Clearing the table will allow the DHCP server to assign different IP addresses to the requesting workstations/devices. Of course, you may need to reboot or release/renew the IP lease on any active workstation/device, or you run the risk of the DHCP server assigning that same address to another requesting device. Best wishes, Bob Carroll, CPA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Acquisto" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 7:05 AM Subject: Re: DHCP and IP Address Conflicts > I've always found in necessary to unload/reload dhcpsrvr to make it > aware of *any* changes. > > Also, when changing from a dynamically assigned address, to a "manual" > dhcp address, it is necessary to delete any dynamic address previously > assigned to a MAC, in order for it to hand out a the new one. If it > already "knows" a MAC, it will not hand out a new IP to it. > > > ----------------------------------------- > Joe Acquisto > SUNY New Paltz > 845-257-3134 (V) > 845-257-6900 (F) > --------------------------------------------------- > "Those who do not learn from > history are condemned to repeat it" > > http://www.congress.org > http://www.tompaine.com > --------------------------------------------------- > > >>> carter at ipfw.edu 12/10/02 23:35 PM >>> > Why for the specific reason of not having to store addresses in a > spreadsheet. We do exclude off a chunk of addresses at the low end of > the subnet and when we need to then "dhcp hard code" an address instead > of letting it pick one, then we change an excluded address to a manual > address. This method worked fine for the ms dhcp server since the early > days of NT 4. > > The problem comes in with Novells DHCP server since many changes don't > take effect until a dhcpsrvr load/unload. > > > John Carter > Senior Network Systems Programmer > ITServices > Indiana Purdue University Ft. Wayne > 2101 Coliseum Blvd > Ft. Wayne IN 46805 > 260 481-5473 > 260 481-4152 fax > carter at ipfw.edu > > > > >>> "Dan D'Alessandro" 12/10/02 02:46PM >>> > Why would you create a DHCP range that would include static addresses? > I begin my dhcp range at 10.2.72.101. I use 10.2.72.1 - 10.2.72.100 for > static addressing certain printers and workstations or servers and keep > tabs on what devices have what address in a spreadsheet. I know this > was a new feature of DHCP in nw5 but I never relied on DHCP to test to > see if a certain IP address was currently assigned. > > > > > Thank You, > > Dan D'Alessandro > ITT FT/SP NMC > 1.847.470.5260 > dan.d'alessandro at nmc.itt.com > > > > >>> carter at ipfw.edu 12/10/02 12:57PM >>> > I was having a similar problem. What version of dhcpsrvr.nlm are you > using. There was an update that made things worse, now the new one > seems to fix a few of the problems. > > We still have a problem along your lines. Boot a machine, it gets an > address, release the address, manually assign the machine an address > (different from the one it dhcp'd) reboot the machine and it gets the > old address not the manualy assigned address. > > Now I know that 98 especially does not like to give up its address. > Blowing away the dhcp reg key and setting the registry to release the ip > address upon shutdown does not fix the problem either. We have done > this senerio many times on the MS dhcp server and when the machine > reboots and asks if it can re use the old ip #, the ms dhcp server > basically says no, use this manual address instead. The Novell one does > not seem to do this unless you unload and reload dhcpsrvr. > > > > John Carter > Senior Network Systems Programmer > ITServices > Indiana Purdue University Ft. Wayne > 2101 Coliseum Blvd > Ft. Wayne IN 46805 > 260 481-5473 > 260 481-4152 fax > carter at ipfw.edu > > > > >>> surfenergy at adelphia.net 12/10/02 01:07PM >>> > I'm running DHCP 3.01 on a Netware 5.1 SP3. The problem that I'm > encountering is IP address conflicts. I have a pool setup of > 192.168.1.1-192.168.1.253 and the lease is for 3 days. I have some > manual IP addresses set up, for example, 192.168.1.50 and in the morning > someone will be assigined that same address from the pool dynamically > and > cause a > conflict. Then when trying to release and renew the IP address on the > client > it returns the same address and won't release it. In order to get it to > release the address, I have > to assign a manual address. Now, isn't DHCP supposed to not assign an > address that is designated as a > manual address. I've also tried setting up the address as an exclusion > and > it has not solved the problem. > > Thanks, > John A. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > From fubarsnafu69 at yahoo.com Wed Dec 11 18:51:14 2002 From: fubarsnafu69 at yahoo.com (Fred James) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 10:51:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: Found it - program to delete multiple files on multiple drives In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20021211182058.00b095b8@man2b> Message-ID: <20021211185114.92587.qmail@web10705.mail.yahoo.com> This came about as a request from someone on the list for this program. I can search for multiple file on local drives, but windows search will not let me select multiple network drives to search for at same time. This program was orginal used on a w/s that ran a product called LANBATCH which basically ran schedule task sent to it - this program was run every saturday night. It is total automatic, with windows I still have to select and then delete the files. This was 1992, so we had Netware 3.11 with 4 650Meg volumes Modify the line that says PRINT #2, "DEL " + L$ to PRINT #2, "DEL " + CHR$(34)L$CHR$(34) ' for Windows 9x This puts the file names in quotes --- Tim Clarke wrote: > At 10:14 11/12/2002 -0800, you wrote: > >A few months ago we talk about a program to delete multiple files > with > >certain different extension on multiple drives. I want to delete > all > >*.bak & *.tmp files on 8 different network drives. With windows you > >would have to do a search 16 times to find all of them. This > program > >will do it all at once. > > Fred, I can do multiple-file and multiple-drive searches on w2k here > against > a variety of Netware and 'doze boxes? > > > Tim Clarke AMBCS MIAP > IT Director > Manifest > 9 Freebournes Court > Newland Street > Witham, Essex > CM8 2BL > England > > Phone: +44 1376 503500 > Fax: +44 1376 503550 > Email: tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk > Web: http://www.manifest.co.uk > > Manifest is the trading name of: > Manifest Information Services Ltd: Registered in England Number > 3401145 & > The Manifest Voting Agency Ltd: Registered in England Number 2920820 > Registered Office at above address > > Copyright: This e-mail may contain confidential or legally privileged > > information. If you are not the named addressee you must not use or > disclose such information, instead please report it to > administrators at manifest.co.uk > > Please see http://www.manifest.co.uk/privacy_policy.htm#e-mail for > further > information. > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk Wed Dec 11 19:14:56 2002 From: tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk (Tim Clarke) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 19:14:56 +0000 Subject: Found it - program to delete multiple files on multiple drives In-Reply-To: <20021211185114.92587.qmail@web10705.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20021211182058.00b095b8@man2b> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20021211191332.045219b0@man2b> Sorry to bang on, Fred, but I've just done a search for "*.tmp;*.bak" in "G:\;H:\" and it works fine. A quick ^A and hit the del key - all done?!?! Not that I want to put your fine work down.... At 10:51 11/12/2002 -0800, you wrote: >This came about as a request from someone on the list for this program. > >I can search for multiple file on local drives, but windows search will > not let me select multiple network drives to search for at same time. > >This program was orginal used on a w/s that ran a product called >LANBATCH which basically ran schedule task sent to it - this program >was run every saturday night. It is total automatic, with windows I >still have to select and then delete the files. This was 1992, so we >had Netware 3.11 with 4 650Meg volumes > >Modify the line that says > >PRINT #2, "DEL " + L$ > >to > >PRINT #2, "DEL " + CHR$(34)L$CHR$(34) ' for Windows 9x > >This puts the file names in quotes Tim Clarke AMBCS MIAP IT Director Manifest 9 Freebournes Court Newland Street Witham, Essex CM8 2BL England Phone: +44 1376 503500 Fax: +44 1376 503550 Email: tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk Web: http://www.manifest.co.uk Manifest is the trading name of: Manifest Information Services Ltd: Registered in England Number 3401145 & The Manifest Voting Agency Ltd: Registered in England Number 2920820 Registered Office at above address Copyright: This e-mail may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you are not the named addressee you must not use or disclose such information, instead please report it to administrators at manifest.co.uk Please see http://www.manifest.co.uk/privacy_policy.htm#e-mail for further information. From larry_burd at compuserve.com Wed Dec 11 19:27:24 2002 From: larry_burd at compuserve.com (Larry Burd) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 14:27:24 -0500 Subject: error log question Message-ID: <200212111427_MC3-1-1F76-8265@compuserve.com> what does the below mean, and how can I solve it. 4.11 server, SP9. The server just crashed and rebooted itself. It also sent out a message to users it had a critial error and users should save work and exit. ------------------------------------------ Volume SYS mounted on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 2:21:32 pm. Volume mount had the following errors that were fixed: Problem with file Q_0339.SRV, (TTS file...was not changed) length kept = 0, had allocated = 65536 Problem with file CONSOLE.LOG, length extended. Problem with file CONSOLE.LOG, old length = 0, new length = 65536 ------------------------------------------------ also, what is this SRV file? thanks for your help, Larry From John at coastal.edu Wed Dec 11 19:28:43 2002 From: John at coastal.edu (John Hanna) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 14:28:43 -0500 Subject: DHCP and IP Address Conflicts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: You have struck up a memory of something I read here. I think it was in the install instructions for consoleOne Java App. It recommends turning of caching and and write delay. Setting the value to true commit and some other advanced settings. I imagine these would help with some of the delays with DNS/DHCP console too. >-----Original Message----- >From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu >[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu]On Behalf Of Jeff Groetsema >Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 12:27 PM >To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu >Subject: Re: DHCP and IP Address Conflicts > > >All, > >I don't understand the issues people are having with Novells DHCP >service and making changes. All that is required after a change >(assuming ver 3.x is being used) is to highlight the server object >in the Java gui, and then click on the Stop/Start Services button. > Once the server object gets the red brackets (service is >stopped), click the Stop/Start Services button again. Yes, some >times there is a bit of a delay as the Java app is not the >fastest, but I have not had any problems with it. > >Stopping and restarting a service like this after making changes >is par for the course. We are moving to Network Regisrtrar and it >requires a similar action. I suspect the reason for this is that >to make these services faster and more responsive, data is cached >in memory. When changes are made and saved, they are made to the >tables stored on media. For these changes to go into affect, the >memory cache must be dumped and reloaded from the table. > >Jeff > >>>> carter at ipfw.edu 12/10/02 08:34PM >>> >Why for the specific reason of not having to store addresses in a >spreadsheet. We do exclude off a chunk of addresses at the low >end of the subnet and when we need to then "dhcp hard code" an >address instead of letting it pick one, then we change an excluded >address to a manual address. This method worked fine for the ms >dhcp server since the early days of NT 4. > >The problem comes in with Novells DHCP server since many changes >don't take effect until a dhcpsrvr load/unload. > > >John Carter >Senior Network Systems Programmer >ITServices >Indiana Purdue University Ft. Wayne >2101 Coliseum Blvd >Ft. Wayne IN 46805 >260 481-5473 >260 481-4152 fax >carter at ipfw.edu > > > >>>> "Dan D'Alessandro" 12/10/02 02:46PM >>> >Why would you create a DHCP range that would include static >addresses? I begin my dhcp range at 10.2.72.101. I use 10.2.72.1 >- 10.2.72.100 for static addressing certain printers and >workstations or servers and keep tabs on what devices have what >address in a spreadsheet. I know this was a new feature of DHCP >in nw5 but I never relied on DHCP to test to see if a certain IP >address was currently assigned. > > > > >Thank You, > >Dan D'Alessandro >ITT FT/SP NMC >1.847.470.5260 >dan.d'alessandro at nmc.itt.com > > > >>>> carter at ipfw.edu 12/10/02 12:57PM >>> >I was having a similar problem. What version of dhcpsrvr.nlm are >you using. There was an update that made things worse, now the >new one seems to fix a few of the problems. > >We still have a problem along your lines. Boot a machine, it gets >an address, release the address, manually assign the machine an >address (different from the one it dhcp'd) reboot the machine and >it gets the old address not the manualy assigned address. > >Now I know that 98 especially does not like to give up its >address. Blowing away the dhcp reg key and setting the registry >to release the ip address upon shutdown does not fix the problem >either. We have done this senerio many times on the MS dhcp >server and when the machine reboots and asks if it can re use the >old ip #, the ms dhcp server basically says no, use this manual >address instead. The Novell one does not seem to do this unless >you unload and reload dhcpsrvr. > > > >John Carter >Senior Network Systems Programmer >ITServices >Indiana Purdue University Ft. Wayne >2101 Coliseum Blvd >Ft. Wayne IN 46805 >260 481-5473 >260 481-4152 fax >carter at ipfw.edu > > > >>>> surfenergy at adelphia.net 12/10/02 01:07PM >>> >I'm running DHCP 3.01 on a Netware 5.1 SP3. The problem that I'm >encountering is IP address conflicts. I have a pool setup of >192.168.1.1-192.168.1.253 and the lease is for 3 days. I have some >manual IP addresses set up, for example, 192.168.1.50 and in the morning >someone will be assigined that same address from the pool dynamically and >cause a >conflict. Then when trying to release and renew the IP address on the >client >it returns the same address and won't release it. In order to get it to >release the address, I have >to assign a manual address. Now, isn't DHCP supposed to not assign an >address that is designated as a >manual address. I've also tried setting up the address as an exclusion and >it has not solved the problem. > >Thanks, >John A. > > > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > > From tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk Wed Dec 11 19:33:47 2002 From: tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk (Tim Clarke) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 19:33:47 +0000 Subject: error log question In-Reply-To: <200212111427_MC3-1-1F76-8265@compuserve.com> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20021211193305.00b03518@man2b> Larry, these are just tidy-up notifications as a result of coming up after the crash. The .SRV is a print queue. At 14:27 11/12/2002 -0500, you wrote: >what does the below mean, and how can I solve it. 4.11 server, SP9. The >server just crashed and rebooted itself. It also sent out a message to >users it had a critial error and users should save work and exit. >------------------------------------------ >Volume SYS mounted on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 2:21:32 pm. >Volume mount had the following errors that were fixed: >Problem with file Q_0339.SRV, (TTS file...was not changed) > length kept = 0, had allocated = 65536 >Problem with file CONSOLE.LOG, length extended. >Problem with file CONSOLE.LOG, old length = 0, new length = 65536 >------------------------------------------------ >also, what is this SRV file? >thanks for your help, >Larry Tim Clarke AMBCS MIAP IT Director Manifest 9 Freebournes Court Newland Street Witham, Essex CM8 2BL England Phone: +44 1376 503500 Fax: +44 1376 503550 Email: tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk Web: http://www.manifest.co.uk Manifest is the trading name of: Manifest Information Services Ltd: Registered in England Number 3401145 & The Manifest Voting Agency Ltd: Registered in England Number 2920820 Registered Office at above address Copyright: This e-mail may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you are not the named addressee you must not use or disclose such information, instead please report it to administrators at manifest.co.uk Please see http://www.manifest.co.uk/privacy_policy.htm#e-mail for further information. From dtran at ssc.ucla.edu Wed Dec 11 19:32:55 2002 From: dtran at ssc.ucla.edu (Daniel Tran) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 11:32:55 -0800 Subject: error log question In-Reply-To: <200212111427_MC3-1-1F76-8265@compuserve.com> Message-ID: <000e01c2a14c$1a6ea340$49e56180@hp1> When the server mounts the volume, it checked for error and corrected those. *SRV file is file associated with printqueue/printserver. I believe the SRV file is there if there is a print server associated with the printqueue. If the queue does not have the printserver (i.e: jetdirect) linking to it, the SRV file will not be there. You're safe. I would run vrepair to make sure everything is fine after a crash. Daniel - dtran at ssc.ucla.edu > -----Original Message----- > From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu > [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Larry Burd > Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 11:27 AM > To: INTERNET:novell at netlab1.usu.edu > Subject: error log question > > > what does the below mean, and how can I solve it. 4.11 > server, SP9. The server just crashed and rebooted itself. > It also sent out a message to users it had a critial error > and users should save work and exit. > ------------------------------------------ > Volume SYS mounted on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 2:21:32 pm. > Volume mount had the following errors that were fixed: > Problem with file Q_0339.SRV, (TTS file...was not changed) > length kept = 0, had allocated = 65536 > Problem with file CONSOLE.LOG, length extended. > Problem with file CONSOLE.LOG, old length = 0, new length = 65536 > ------------------------------------------------ > also, what is this SRV file? > thanks for your help, > Larry > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > From dtran at ssc.ucla.edu Wed Dec 11 19:40:38 2002 From: dtran at ssc.ucla.edu (Daniel Tran) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 11:40:38 -0800 Subject: error log question Message-ID: <001101c2a14d$2ea1bae0$49e56180@hp1> Sorry Larry, The SRV file contains info about the print server that's attaching to the queue. If there's no print server attach to the queue, the file is zero byte in size "NOT" that it's not there Daniel - dtran at ssc.ucla.edu > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel Tran [mailto:dtran at ssc.ucla.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 11:33 AM > To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' > Cc: 'larry_burd at compuserve.com' > Subject: RE: error log question > > > When the server mounts the volume, it checked for error and > corrected those. *SRV file is file associated with > printqueue/printserver. I believe the SRV file is there if > there is a print server associated with the printqueue. If > the queue does not have the printserver (i.e: jetdirect) > linking to it, the SRV file will not be there. > > You're safe. I would run vrepair to make sure everything is > fine after a crash. > > Daniel - dtran at ssc.ucla.edu > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu > > [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Larry Burd > > Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 11:27 AM > > To: INTERNET:novell at netlab1.usu.edu > > Subject: error log question > > > > > > what does the below mean, and how can I solve it. 4.11 > > server, SP9. The server just crashed and rebooted itself. > > It also sent out a message to users it had a critial error > > and users should save work and exit. > > ------------------------------------------ > > Volume SYS mounted on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 2:21:32 pm. > > Volume mount had the following errors that were fixed: > > Problem with file Q_0339.SRV, (TTS file...was not changed) > > length kept = 0, had allocated = 65536 > > Problem with file CONSOLE.LOG, length extended. > > Problem with file CONSOLE.LOG, old length = 0, new length = 65536 > > ------------------------------------------------ > > also, what is this SRV file? > > thanks for your help, > > Larry > > _______________________________________________ > > Novell mailing list > > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/nov> ell > > > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > > > From maryve1 at starpower.net Wed Dec 11 20:26:09 2002 From: maryve1 at starpower.net (Mary Van Engelen) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 15:26:09 -0500 Subject: OT: Student Laptops In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20021211151035.023865d0@pop.starpower.net> We are not an educational institution so this may be an apples-to-oranges comparison. We do have 50-75 interns every quarter from educational institutions. Many of them do have some access for students. It may just be an ethernet connection in the dorm. But many of the interns arrive here thinking that all networks are open to their laptops. We do not allow any computer or laptop on our system that we do not own. This is not only for security reasons, but also to protect us. We do not want to be responsible for the laptop if something goes wrong with it while we are trying to configure it for our network. It is also meant as a timesaver because every laptop is different, and depending on what the owner has loaded, it could take hours to get our stuff on it. Mary At 12/11/2002 08:20 AM, Joe Serrone wrote: >We are a medical university running Netware 5.1 (SP3). We use GroupWise >6 as our mail program and our students access it via the Web, Staff and >Faculty use the client for access. > >Our University has implemented a requirement for the students to >purchase Laptops when they start each year. My question is: What are >other people doing - Do you allow the students to plug their laptops >into your network (we do not have control over what software or OS is >installed on these laptops). Do you worry about hacking, viruses, >etc....? Any thoughts or testimonials is appreciated.. > >Thanks > >Joe Serrone >Systems Manager >University of Health Sciences >1750 Independence Avenue >Kansas City, MO 64106-1453 >Phone: 816.283.2472 >Fax: 816.283.0692 >E-mail: jserrone at uhs.edu >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From jserrone at uhs.edu Wed Dec 11 21:24:14 2002 From: jserrone at uhs.edu (Joe Serrone) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 15:24:14 -0600 Subject: Disk Space Restrictions - Multiple Users Message-ID: With ConsoleOne, how do you implement disk space restrictions for a group? There used to be a way in NWADMIN but I cannot find it in ConsoleOne. Thanks Joe Serrone Systems Manager University of Health Sciences 1750 Independence Avenue Kansas City, MO 64106-1453 Phone: 816.283.2472 Fax: 816.283.0692 E-mail: jserrone at uhs.edu From dtran at ssc.ucla.edu Wed Dec 11 21:30:31 2002 From: dtran at ssc.ucla.edu (Daniel Tran) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 13:30:31 -0800 Subject: Disk Space Restrictions - Multiple Users In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000501c2a15c$88149a70$49e56180@hp1> I was reading the online manual on NSS when this message arrive. Here's a cut from the manual >From ConsoleOne, open the tree you want. Right-click the server object and select Properties. Right-click on the volume that contains the user object you want. Click Properties > Attributes > NSS Attributes. Select User Space Restrictions. Click Users with Space Restrictions. Select the user you want to apply restrictions to. If the user you want is not in the list, do the following: Click Add. Browse for the user you want. Double-click on the user. The User Space Restriction dialog box opens. You can enter or modify the User Space Restriction parameters in this box. Click Modify. Enter or edit the user space amount in the Limit field and click OK. > -----Original Message----- > From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu > [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Joe Serrone > Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 1:24 PM > To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu > Subject: Disk Space Restrictions - Multiple Users > > > With ConsoleOne, how do you implement disk space restrictions > for a group? There used to be a way in NWADMIN but I cannot > find it in ConsoleOne. > > Thanks > > Joe Serrone > Systems Manager > University of Health Sciences > 1750 Independence Avenue > Kansas City, MO 64106-1453 > Phone: 816.283.2472 > Fax: 816.283.0692 > E-mail: jserrone at uhs.edu > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > From John at coastal.edu Wed Dec 11 21:38:21 2002 From: John at coastal.edu (John Hanna) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 16:38:21 -0500 Subject: Disk Space Restrictions - Multiple Users In-Reply-To: <000501c2a15c$88149a70$49e56180@hp1> Message-ID: This is per user. I beleive Joe was asking how to do it on a group level. I do not recall ever being able to set group space restrictions, but you can set sub-directory level restrictions in addition or opposed to volume space restrictions. >I was reading the online manual on NSS when this message arrive. >Here's a cut from the manual > >>From ConsoleOne, open the tree you want. > >Right-click the server object and select Properties. > >Right-click on the volume that contains the user object you want. > >Click Properties > Attributes > NSS Attributes. > >Select User Space Restrictions. > >Click Users with Space Restrictions. > >Select the user you want to apply restrictions to. > >If the user you want is not in the list, do the following: > >Click Add. > >Browse for the user you want. > >Double-click on the user. > >The User Space Restriction dialog box opens. You can enter or modify the >User Space Restriction parameters in this box. > >Click Modify. > >Enter or edit the user space amount in the Limit field and click OK. > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu >> [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Joe Serrone >> Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 1:24 PM >> To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu >> Subject: Disk Space Restrictions - Multiple Users >> >> >> With ConsoleOne, how do you implement disk space restrictions >> for a group? There used to be a way in NWADMIN but I cannot >> find it in ConsoleOne. >> >> Thanks >> >> Joe Serrone >> Systems Manager >> University of Health Sciences >> 1750 Independence Avenue >> Kansas City, MO 64106-1453 >> Phone: 816.283.2472 >> Fax: 816.283.0692 >> E-mail: jserrone at uhs.edu >> _______________________________________________ >> Novell mailing list >> Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >> http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo >> > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > From markperl at earthlink.net Wed Dec 11 22:18:52 2002 From: markperl at earthlink.net (Mark Perlstein) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 14:18:52 -0800 Subject: ConsoleOne Snapins - where'd they go? Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20021211141058.009fcc90@mail.earthlink.net> Just installed C1 on a new PC and went looking for the snapins I need. Coulda sworn I used to see them on the Product Download page. There'd be a whole list of them sorted by platform. Have looked through Downloads and FileFinder and can't find that group anymore. Suggestions? Thanks Mark From JRD at cc.usu.edu Wed Dec 11 23:53:04 2002 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 16:53:04 -0700 (MST) Subject: Attachments to the list Message-ID: <01KPWVFJIDDE91WWDO@cc.usu.edu> The other day someone attached a .bas file to a list message, and I have been buried in automated nastygrams from recepient's mail transport agents, their virus/spam checkers in particular. While I enjoy talking with machines, enough is enough. Thus I recommend folks think several times before attaching non-ASCII text to list traffic. It's a bad idea to begin with, and then all those MTAs rub my nose into it as well. Thanks, Joe D. From gcarlson at myrealbox.com Thu Dec 12 00:11:48 2002 From: gcarlson at myrealbox.com (gcarlson at myrealbox.com) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 19:11:48 -0500 Subject: Attachments to the list In-Reply-To: <01KPWVFJIDDE91WWDO@cc.usu.edu> Message-ID: <028101c2a173$10b31d00$0300a8c0@enterprise> Joe, It actually was Text, and perhaps in the future they can change the extension. It was written in the ancient language of MS Basic, and was not a bad program. But you are correct. Attachments should be sent in non-automated MS stuff. It could just as easily been a virus. SO far, text and JPegs are semi immune. But that may change with tomorrow. Limit attachments to those and the obligatory VCF files, and we will have no fear. Otherwise, those of us on Exchange/Outlook have to auto delete them. For our sake. George ****************************************************************** *George Carlson, CNE, MCSE NT4, MCSE 2000, CCNA, CNA, MCP * *LAN/WAN Specialist Office-(804) 288-1822* *Pinkerton Computer Consultants VM-(804) 914-3355* * * *email: georgepcarlson at yahoo.com * *"When you have hit Rock Bottom, the only direction left is up." * * - Jesse Ventura * ****************************************************************** > -----Original Message----- > From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu > [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu]On Behalf Of Joe Doupnik > Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 6:53 PM > To: NOVELL at NETLAB1.USU.EDU > Subject: Attachments to the list > > > The other day someone attached a .bas file to a list message, > and I have been buried in automated nastygrams from recepient's mail > transport agents, their virus/spam checkers in particular. > While I enjoy talking with machines, enough is enough. Thus > I recommend folks think several times before attaching non-ASCII text > to list traffic. It's a bad idea to begin with, and then all those > MTAs rub my nose into it as well. > Thanks, > Joe D. > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > From MPB at gty.ci.henderson.nv.us Thu Dec 12 01:44:17 2002 From: MPB at gty.ci.henderson.nv.us (Michael Balasko) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 17:44:17 -0800 Subject: ConsoleOne Snapins - where'd they go? Message-ID: Where is that soapbox. Ah. here is its. Answer first, rant second. novell.com click download. then you need to hit category, then C1 snapins and then search. begin rant> KEYWORD SEARCH DOESN'T WORK. TRY TYPING IN CONSOLEONE AND YOU GET NOTHING. Keyword Snap gets you nothing. This search engine is the most worthless hunk of crap ever. Want a GW update or NW SP? Good luck. Who ever allowed this to go live needs to get fired. NOW. Yes I have emailed Novell, Yes I have complained at Novell Booth. DEAR NOVELL, BUY THE GOOGLE SEARCH APPLIANCE ITS 20K. IT'LL SOLVE THIS SINCE YOU CAN'T GET IT RIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT IS ALL ending rant:) >>> markperl at earthlink.net 12/11/02 02:18PM >>> Just installed C1 on a new PC and went looking for the snapins I need. Coulda sworn I used to see them on the Product Download page. There'd be a whole list of them sorted by platform. Have looked through Downloads and FileFinder and can't find that group anymore. Suggestions? Thanks Mark _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From carter at ipfw.edu Thu Dec 12 01:56:43 2002 From: carter at ipfw.edu (Jean-Paul Carter) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 20:56:43 -0500 Subject: ConsoleOne Snapins - where'd they go? Message-ID: Go to the www.novell.com/download, just click submit search with defaults. Up comes the downloads. Search for snap-in using the browser search, you will find them. Or search for the product you want the snap-in for. I also like the old sorting of snapins as separate download, but now they are with each product. John Carter Senior Network Systems Programmer ITServices Indiana Purdue University Ft. Wayne 2101 Coliseum Blvd Ft. Wayne IN 46805 260 481-5473 260 481-4152 fax carter at ipfw.edu >>> markperl at earthlink.net 12/11/02 05:18PM >>> Just installed C1 on a new PC and went looking for the snapins I need. Coulda sworn I used to see them on the Product Download page. There'd be a whole list of them sorted by platform. Have looked through Downloads and FileFinder and can't find that group anymore. Suggestions? Thanks Mark _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com Thu Dec 12 04:30:55 2002 From: Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com (Peter Van Lone) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 22:30:55 -0600 Subject: nw6 license issue Message-ID: Nw6 sp2 -- We have 3 nw6 server installed, each using the license we received that in DS is called Novell + NetWare 6 Server + 600.ou.o iManager shows Units installed = unlimited, units in use = 3 and units available = unlimited However, one of the 3 servers has the following in the PM trace screen: 22:29:18: NLSNDSRequestWithChallenge (NULL, NULL, 2, NULL, Novell, NetWare 6 Se ver, 600, NULL, NULL, NULL, -1 ...): (0xC0001005) 22:29:18: RequestServerBaseLicense() (0xC0001005) 22:29:18: SBL Update Process cancelled 22:29:18: SBL Request Process scheduled in 90 ticks I had this kind of thing happen fairly often in nw5.1 -- and I would just go to nwadmin, find properties of the license, and re-add the missing server. And then it was fine. How do I do that using iManager? From acquistj at lan.newpaltz.edu Thu Dec 12 13:22:25 2002 From: acquistj at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 08:22:25 -0500 Subject: DHCP and IP Address Conflicts Message-ID: I, for one, was not expressing dismay, just commenting on "how to". I've never used the Stop/Start thing, but is this not the same as "unload/reload"-ing the NLM? This only seems to take about 10-30 seconds, complete, the only inconvenience being walking to the box, or remoting in to it. Jrbutils servcmd.exe works fine also. joea ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- "Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it" http://www.congress.org http://www.tompaine.com --------------------------------------------------- >>> jgroetsema at uop.edu 12/11/02 12:29 PM >>> . . .click on the Stop/Start Services button. Once the server object gets the red brackets (service is stopped), click the Stop/Start Services button again. Yes, some times there is a bit of a delay as the Java app is not the fastest, but I have not had any problems with it. From Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com Thu Dec 12 16:37:36 2002 From: Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com (Peter Van Lone) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 10:37:36 -0600 Subject: tshoot dhcp Message-ID: I have a dhcp server (nw51 sp5 newest tcp and dhcp) that is servicing 2 subnets -- one is the same subnet the server is in, the other is a vlan for workstations. The workstation subnet/vlan is getting addresses just fine. But the server subnet, no workstation in that subnet can successfully get a lease. I've checked the subnet details in the dns/dhcp mgr, and all looks fine. What is especially weird is that this subnet USED to work fine when all the workstations were in this vlan. How can I go about t-shooting this? Anyone seen anything like it? pvl From acquistj at lan.newpaltz.edu Thu Dec 12 16:42:42 2002 From: acquistj at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 11:42:42 -0500 Subject: tshoot dhcp Message-ID: Load dhcpsrvr with the -d3 option and watch the screen while trying to get an address from a reluctant PC. This should tell you if the requests are at least getting there. The poor mans packet sniff. ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- "Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it" http://www.congress.org http://www.tompaine.com --------------------------------------------------- >>> Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com 12/12/02 11:39 AM >>> I have a dhcp server (nw51 sp5 newest tcp and dhcp) that is servicing 2 subnets -- one is the same subnet the server is in, the other is a vlan for workstations. The workstation subnet/vlan is getting addresses just fine. But the server subnet, no workstation in that subnet can successfully get a lease. I've checked the subnet details in the dns/dhcp mgr, and all looks fine. What is especially weird is that this subnet USED to work fine when all the workstations were in this vlan. How can I go about t-shooting this? Anyone seen anything like it? pvl _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From acquistj at lan.newpaltz.edu Thu Dec 12 16:43:02 2002 From: acquistj at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 11:43:02 -0500 Subject: tshoot dhcp Message-ID: Load dhcpsrvr with the -d3 option and watch the screen while trying to get an address from a reluctant PC. This should tell you if the requests are at least getting there. The poor mans packet sniff. ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- "Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it" http://www.congress.org http://www.tompaine.com --------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- "Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it" http://www.congress.org http://www.tompaine.com --------------------------------------------------- >>> Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com 12/12/02 11:39 AM >>> I have a dhcp server (nw51 sp5 newest tcp and dhcp) that is servicing 2 subnets -- one is the same subnet the server is in, the other is a vlan for workstations. The workstation subnet/vlan is getting addresses just fine. But the server subnet, no workstation in that subnet can successfully get a lease. I've checked the subnet details in the dns/dhcp mgr, and all looks fine. What is especially weird is that this subnet USED to work fine when all the workstations were in this vlan. How can I go about t-shooting this? Anyone seen anything like it? pvl _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From robin.brady at ssb.state.tx.us Thu Dec 12 18:20:35 2002 From: robin.brady at ssb.state.tx.us (Robin Brady) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 12:20:35 -0600 Subject: VPN slowness Message-ID: <3DF87F11.26990.9B9501@localhost> I have users complaining about how slow the client-to-site VPN connection is. Not such a long time ago they were having to dial in thru PCAnywhere, but I guess they've forgotten how slow THAT was. We are still running NW4.11 here with BMEE 3.0. Our branch offices have business class DSL (it is capped at 256 down and 128 up, I think). Anyone else have experience with how slow it is with this kind of setup? Robin Austin, TX From Cward at uhs.edu Thu Dec 12 20:19:02 2002 From: Cward at uhs.edu (Christopher Ward) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 14:19:02 -0600 Subject: volume restrictions Message-ID: I am running NW5.1 sp3. I am having an problem adjusting the space limits. If I change a users space limits at the volume level and then go and verify the change at the users folder the change has not taken affect. Any suggestions. Chris Ward, CNA Network/GroupWise Administrator University of Health Sciences 1750 Independence Avenue Kansas City, MO 64106-1453 (816) 283-2470 From skiphefel at advanced-data.com Thu Dec 12 21:19:28 2002 From: skiphefel at advanced-data.com (Skip Hefel) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 15:19:28 -0600 Subject: volume restrictions Message-ID: <2C2609144800D611A50A006008F61227018112EB@AXIAL.advanced-data.com> You might run a DSrepair and under Advanced... Check Volumes and Trustees, Otherwise do a "unattended full repair" to eliminated any DS related problems. Skip Hefel, CNE -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Ward [mailto:Cward at uhs.edu] Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 2:19 PM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: volume restrictions I am running NW5.1 sp3. I am having an problem adjusting the space limits. If I change a users space limits at the volume level and then go and verify the change at the users folder the change has not taken affect. Any suggestions. Chris Ward, CNA Network/GroupWise Administrator University of Health Sciences 1750 Independence Avenue Kansas City, MO 64106-1453 (816) 283-2470 _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://netlab1.usu.edu/pipermail/novell/attachments/20021212/d30f680a/attachment.html From fubarsnafu69 at yahoo.com Thu Dec 12 22:39:45 2002 From: fubarsnafu69 at yahoo.com (Fred James) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 14:39:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: Found it - program to delete multiple files on multiple drives In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20021211191332.045219b0@man2b> Message-ID: <20021212223945.18047.qmail@web10705.mail.yahoo.com> As I said early - this was a request for this specific program from users on list about 4-6 months ago. I didn't say you had to run it, By all means use what you are a custom too. But this program runs unattended. Your way is fine, but can you do it saturday night when you are not there. No that is why this program was written. Back when disk space was rare, and user did clean up after them selves. Oh they still don't As I stated my system (Win2000) will not let me select multiple network drives at same time. I would have to search one at a time. --- Tim Clarke wrote: > Sorry to bang on, Fred, but I've just done a search for "*.tmp;*.bak" > in > "G:\;H:\" and it works fine. A quick ^A and hit the del key - all > done?!?! > Not that I want to put your fine work down.... > > At 10:51 11/12/2002 -0800, you wrote: > >This came about as a request from someone on the list for this > program. > > > >I can search for multiple file on local drives, but windows search > will > > not let me select multiple network drives to search for at same > time. > > > >This program was orginal used on a w/s that ran a product called > >LANBATCH which basically ran schedule task sent to it - this program > >was run every saturday night. It is total automatic, with windows I > >still have to select and then delete the files. This was 1992, so > we > >had Netware 3.11 with 4 650Meg volumes > > > >Modify the line that says > > > >PRINT #2, "DEL " + L$ > > > >to > > > >PRINT #2, "DEL " + CHR$(34)L$CHR$(34) ' for Windows 9x > > > >This puts the file names in quotes > > Tim Clarke AMBCS MIAP > IT Director > Manifest > 9 Freebournes Court > Newland Street > Witham, Essex > CM8 2BL > England > > Phone: +44 1376 503500 > Fax: +44 1376 503550 > Email: tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk > Web: http://www.manifest.co.uk > > Manifest is the trading name of: > Manifest Information Services Ltd: Registered in England Number > 3401145 & > The Manifest Voting Agency Ltd: Registered in England Number 2920820 > Registered Office at above address > > Copyright: This e-mail may contain confidential or legally privileged > > information. If you are not the named addressee you must not use or > disclose such information, instead please report it to > administrators at manifest.co.uk > > Please see http://www.manifest.co.uk/privacy_policy.htm#e-mail for > further > information. > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From c.davis at uws.edu.au Thu Dec 12 23:52:04 2002 From: c.davis at uws.edu.au (Cory Davis) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 10:52:04 +1100 Subject: printers in workstation policies Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20021213104734.034dc750@mail.uws.edu.au> Hi All I am trying use workstation policies to add NDPS printers to a large set of workstations and its not working, so I'm chasing it up and in the documention it says that it only works on QMS compatible printers what does this mean - you can only use Minolta/QMS printers ?? - that would seem very strange has anyone had any success with this and could you give me any tips Cheers Cory __________________________________________________________________________ Cory Davis Postal Address: Locked Bag 1797 Network Systems Administrator PENRITH SOUTH DC NSW Australia 1797 Library Phone: + 61(02)9852 5899 University of Western Sydney Fax: + 61(02)9852 5940 Email: c.davis at uws.edu.au Mobile: 0409 663 195 From Phillip at microwing.com Fri Dec 13 00:42:50 2002 From: Phillip at microwing.com (Phillip Altmaier) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 16:42:50 -0800 Subject: Directory entries. Message-ID: Greeting All!! Does anyone know off the top of their heads, just how many directory entries a NetWare 5.x server can have on any one volume?? I had a system run out of directory entries and it really created a mess!! GWIA was having a problem and created, over a 90 day period, enough small 1K files to burn up all the available slots in the directory table. It looked like about 5.2 billion entries....or is it 5.2 million... Any idea how long it will take to purge this many deleted files...??? thanks! Phillip From JRD at cc.usu.edu Fri Dec 13 00:53:39 2002 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 17:53:39 -0700 (MST) Subject: Directory entries. Message-ID: <01KPYBSMWO7691XOSU@cc.usu.edu> >Does anyone know off the top of their heads, just how many directory = >entries a NetWare 5.x server can have on any one volume?? > >I had a system run out of directory entries and it really created a mess!! > >GWIA was having a problem and created, over a 90 day period, enough small = >1K files to burn up all the available slots in the directory table. > >It looked like about 5.2 billion entries....or is it 5.2 million... Any = >idea how long it will take to purge this many deleted files...??? > >thanks! > >Phillip > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo ----------- I don't know. I suspect it creates until disk space is exhausted. Recently I had a problem with Netmail, it was left open briefly and the spammers invaded. I closed the hole and then proceeded to run Purge on the mail directories. This is on NW 5.1, fast SCSI. The purge ran for almost an hour, removing deleted file entries. There must have been many millions of entries (Netmail creates many per message). It was going fast as all get out too. In your case, just start purging. You really don't have a choice. Then mark the directory as Purge Immediate to prevent deleted files from using dir space. Joe D. From jwhite.lists at starband.net Fri Dec 13 04:27:11 2002 From: jwhite.lists at starband.net (Jay White) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 23:27:11 -0500 Subject: Directory entries. References: Message-ID: <3DF9619F.9080703@starband.net> I don't think directory entries are limited, directory space is. There is a Set command for the percent of volume space used by the directory (from memory, this is about 12 percent, I think). The number and type of namespaces applied to the volume will make the exact number of entries a variable proposition. If you are up against the limit, you can increase that Set command a little, provided you have any disk space left. Jay White Phillip Altmaier wrote: > >Greeting All!! > >Does anyone know off the top of their heads, just how many directory entries a NetWare 5.x server can have on any one volume?? > >I had a system run out of directory entries and it really created a mess!! > >GWIA was having a problem and created, over a 90 day period, enough small 1K files to burn up all the available slots in the directory table. > >It looked like about 5.2 billion entries....or is it 5.2 million... Any idea how long it will take to purge this many deleted files...??? > >thanks! > >Phillip > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > > From toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee Fri Dec 13 07:40:07 2002 From: toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee (Toomas Aas) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 09:40:07 +0200 Subject: Found it - program to delete multiple files on multiple dr In-Reply-To: <20021212223945.18047.qmail@web10705.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20021211191332.045219b0@man2b> Message-ID: <200212130741.gBD7fFk29939@lv.raad.tartu.ee> Hi! > As I said early - this was a request for this specific program from > users on list about 4-6 months ago. I didn't say you had to run it, By > all means use what you are a custom too. > > But this program runs unattended. Your way is fine, but can you do it > saturday night when you are not there. No that is why this program was > written. Back when disk space was rare, and user did clean up after > them selves. Oh they still don't Just wanted to point out another alternative. There is a NLM for doing such things on a server, unattended. It's called CLEANVOL.NLM and I found it on novellshareware.com. It is highly configurable in what exactly it does and when it does it. For example, I run it once a month (automatically, of course) against a writable-by-anyone public file sharing area on my server to remove any files there that haven't been accessed in last 31 days. It is written in 1998 and has a cosmetic Y2K bug (log file shows dates having year 102) but it works just fine and has never let me down. -- Toomas Aas | toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee | http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/ * I take my wife everywhere, but she keeps finding her way back. From tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk Fri Dec 13 10:36:55 2002 From: tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk (Tim Clarke) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 10:36:55 +0000 Subject: Found it - program to delete multiple files on multiple drives In-Reply-To: <20021212223945.18047.qmail@web10705.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20021211191332.045219b0@man2b> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20021213102853.0435ee20@man2b> At 14:39 12/12/2002 -0800, you wrote: >As I said early - this was a request for this specific program from >users on list about 4-6 months ago. I didn't say you had to run it, By >all means use what you are a custom too. I know you weren't forcing me! Just being a bit too pedantic obviously! >But this program runs unattended. Your way is fine, but can you do it >saturday night when you are not there. No that is why this program was >written. Back when disk space was rare, and user did clean up after >them selves. Oh they still don't Ah, sorry, I'll keep quiet then (you're right about the lusers, though....!) >As I stated my system (Win2000) will not let me select multiple network >drives at same time. I would have to search one at a time. That still puzzles me, are you using UNC paths or drive letters? The w2k system that I'm typing this on lets me do it fine with either - have you separate the drive/directory the designations with semi-colons? Tim Clarke AMBCS MIAP IT Director Manifest 9 Freebournes Court Newland Street Witham, Essex CM8 2BL England Phone: +44 1376 503500 Fax: +44 1376 503550 Email: tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk Web: http://www.manifest.co.uk Manifest is the trading name of: Manifest Information Services Ltd: Registered in England Number 3401145 & The Manifest Voting Agency Ltd: Registered in England Number 2920820 Registered Office at above address Copyright: This e-mail may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you are not the named addressee you must not use or disclose such information, instead please report it to administrators at manifest.co.uk Please see http://www.manifest.co.uk/privacy_policy.htm#e-mail for further information. From Dave.Bracken at salfordsoftware.co.uk Fri Dec 13 12:49:35 2002 From: Dave.Bracken at salfordsoftware.co.uk (Dave Bracken) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 12:49:35 +0000 Subject: Directory entries. Message-ID: > Does anyone know off the top of their heads, just how many directory entries a NetWare 5.x server can have on any one volume?? http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/10061866.htm Dave ------------------------------------------------ Salford Software Ltd, Lancastrian Office Centre, Talbot Road, Old Trafford, Manchester M32 0FP Tel: +44 (0) 161 906 2299 Fax: +44 (0) 161 906 1003 www.salfordsoftware.co.uk ------------------------------------------------ From kmwade at gendatasys.com Fri Dec 13 15:11:55 2002 From: kmwade at gendatasys.com (Kevin Wade) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 09:11:55 -0600 Subject: Found it - program to delete multiple files on multiple drives In-Reply-To: <20021212223945.18047.qmail@web10705.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20021211191332.045219b0@man2b> Message-ID: <3DF9A45E.17295.77D4AAB@localhost> > As I stated my system (Win2000) will not let me select multiple network > drives at same time. I would have to search one at a time. My Win2k works fine. Perhaps you're attempting to select the drives with the mouse rather than typing in the box like so: f:;g:;h: Kevin Wade From fubarsnafu69 at yahoo.com Fri Dec 13 15:31:32 2002 From: fubarsnafu69 at yahoo.com (Fred James) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 07:31:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: Found it - program to delete multiple files on multiple drives In-Reply-To: <3DF9A45E.17295.77D4AAB@localhost> Message-ID: <20021213153132.92665.qmail@web10702.mail.yahoo.com> Another reason I dislike MS operating systems - 15 different ways to do every give task(seems like it). Weird CTRL - Mouse click works when selecting multiple files in a folder - but not in search windows in drives --- Kevin Wade wrote: > > As I stated my system (Win2000) will not let me select multiple > network > > drives at same time. I would have to search one at a time. > > My Win2k works fine. Perhaps you're attempting to select the drives > with the mouse > rather than typing in the box like so: f:;g:;h: > > Kevin Wade > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From rmoletti at ops.org Fri Dec 13 18:27:50 2002 From: rmoletti at ops.org (Rich Molettiere) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 12:27:50 -0600 Subject: Windows 2000 & mapped drive letter Message-ID: Strange issue on a Windows 2000 Pro, client 4.83 & Word 2000 using ZfD3.2 User goes to open or save a file and does not see the mapped drive letter assignments. Entering a drive letter in the filename box may display the contents of the drive OR users have to use UNC. In either case, the users aren't happy campers. Is there a specific registry entry or policy setting that I'm missing? Rich Molettiere Technology Coordinator Omaha North High School "Technology is not a free lunch." From jserrone at uhs.edu Fri Dec 13 18:59:44 2002 From: jserrone at uhs.edu (Joe Serrone) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 12:59:44 -0600 Subject: Disk Space Restrictions? Message-ID: We are running Netware 5.1 (SP3) on several servers. We migrated from 4.11 a year ago and all has been pretty stable and well. We are an Educational Institution and limit our students home directories to 6mb. We have always set this through NWADMIN, highlight the student group and goto details on multiple users, volume space restrictions and apply the changes. This has worked and when you go into ConsoleOne, highlight the volume and choose users with space restrictions, you would see the 6mb limit we had set. Recently we had an issue with a student trying to copy a 5mb file out to his directory and he could not. He did not have any files in his directory and upon investigation, we found that ConsoleOne should he had a 6mb limit. I increased his space limit and it had no effect on ConsoleOne - it still showed 6mb as the limit even though I gave him 20mb. Another interesting issue is that when you goto a DOS prompt and goto his directory and use the NDIR /SPA it shows his limit as only 4mb????? The only way I could change this is goto the Volume, Directory, and then facts (this shows 4mb as well) and change it there..... I am stumped as this has never been an issue - any help is appreciated. Joe Serrone Systems Manager University of Health Sciences 1750 Independence Avenue Kansas City, MO 64106-1453 Phone: 816.283.2472 Fax: 816.283.0692 E-mail: jserrone at uhs.edu From zzz at mctc.mnscu.edu Sat Dec 14 09:42:07 2002 From: zzz at mctc.mnscu.edu (zzz) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 03:42:07 -0600 Subject: Directory entries. Message-ID: If I remember, the limit is 16 million. The reason I am aware of this is I have had problems with GW as well. In one instance, even novell could not help after several hours on the phone talking to both the OS and GW support groups, and I had to restore GW from tape. Not pretty, as we were down for a full day. I tried tinkering with granular purge settings on the GW volume to no avail. Suggestions to consider for implementation on your GW server: Ensure that you: Block relay Block attachments greater than (you decide) Set the ENTIRE GW volume(s) to autopurge Thanks Dana >>> Phillip at microwing.com 12/12/02 06:42PM >>> Greeting All!! Does anyone know off the top of their heads, just how many directory entries a NetWare 5.x server can have on any one volume?? I had a system run out of directory entries and it really created a mess!! GWIA was having a problem and created, over a 90 day period, enough small 1K files to burn up all the available slots in the directory table. It looked like about 5.2 billion entries....or is it 5.2 million... Any idea how long it will take to purge this many deleted files...??? thanks! Phillip _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From maryve1 at starpower.net Sat Dec 14 15:55:17 2002 From: maryve1 at starpower.net (Mary Van Engelen) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 10:55:17 -0500 Subject: ConsoleOne Snapins - where'd they go? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20021214105245.00ac59a8@pop.starpower.net> I just tried this and it didn't work for me. However, I discovered that if you choose Category, there is an entry in the drop-down for ConsoleOne Snap-ins. Produces a nice list. Mary At 12/11/2002 08:56 PM, Jean-Paul Carter wrote: >Go to the www.novell.com/download, just click submit search with >defaults. Up comes the downloads. Search for snap-in using the browser >search, you will find them. Or search for the product you want the >snap-in for. > >I also like the old sorting of snapins as separate download, but now they >are with each product. > > >John Carter >Senior Network Systems Programmer >ITServices >Indiana Purdue University Ft. Wayne >2101 Coliseum Blvd >Ft. Wayne IN 46805 >260 481-5473 >260 481-4152 fax >carter at ipfw.edu > > > > >>> markperl at earthlink.net 12/11/02 05:18PM >>> >Just installed C1 on a new PC and went looking for the snapins I need. >Coulda sworn I used to see them on the Product Download page. There'd be a >whole list of them sorted by platform. Have looked through Downloads and >FileFinder and can't find that group anymore. Suggestions? > >Thanks > >Mark > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From pod at asiaonline.net.nz Sat Dec 14 21:08:30 2002 From: pod at asiaonline.net.nz (Peter O'Driscoll) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 10:08:30 +1300 (NZDT) Subject: Directory entries. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1337.210.48.24.87.1039900110.squirrel@webmail.iconz.co.nz> zzz said: > If I remember, the limit is 16 million. But divide by 2 if you also have long namespace on the vol, divide by 3 id 2 extra name spaces etc. Other namespaces are not required on the GW volume. So with 2 extra namespaces (eg Long and MAC) you get 16m/3 = 5.3m Directoty entries > > > Suggestions to consider for implementation on your GW server: > Ensure that you: > > Block relay > Block attachments greater than (you decide) > Set the ENTIRE GW volume(s) to autopurge Also no compression and keep the block size small. see tids and some older Appnotes on tuning server and disk for GW. Peter > >>>> Phillip at microwing.com 12/12/02 06:42PM >>> > > Greeting All!! > > Does anyone know off the top of their heads, just how many directory > entries a NetWare 5.x server can have on any one volume?? > > I had a system run out of directory entries and it really created a > mess!! > > GWIA was having a problem and created, over a 90 day period, enough > small 1K files to burn up all the available slots in the directory > table. > > It looked like about 5.2 billion entries....or is it 5.2 million... > Any idea how long it will take to purge this many deleted files...??? > > thanks! > > Phillip > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo -- Peter O'Driscoll 33 Richmond Ave, Karori Wellington, NZ. Home: +64 4 476 4374 Mob: +64 21 832 344 From JRD at cc.usu.edu Mon Dec 16 19:09:31 2002 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 12:09:31 -0700 (MST) Subject: Seasonal goodies from Novell Message-ID: <01KQ3KX9FEO291XSR1@cc.usu.edu> You knew Novell would not forget you at this time of the year, and indeed they have not. Waiting for you are two new items: eDir 8.7 and Web extensions for the same. The latter is iManager and eGuide. If you have time, and what else are holidays for except work, then you might want to build up a test machine and have a look at these offerings. NetWare, Windows, Linux versions are available and are in stock (grab free from the net). It's the next wave. Folks with little free flat space and power sockets may wish to build a server in Connectix's Virtual PC and run it within an existing machine, say our desktop. Joe D. From Mcallahan at cdphp.com Mon Dec 16 20:52:20 2002 From: Mcallahan at cdphp.com (Michael Callahan) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 15:52:20 -0500 Subject: nw6 license issue Message-ID: Netware Administrator and Consoleone are available in Netware 6 . The fuction should be there Michael Callahan CNE 4,5,6,Network+, A+ Network Engineer Capital District Physicians Health Plan Patroon Creek Corporate Center 1223 Washington Ave. Albany, NY 12206 ph. (518) 641-4423 fax (518) 641-4305 Mike_callahan at cdphp.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email, including attachments, is for the sole use of the individual to whom it is addressed, and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and destroy this message and its attachments. >>> Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com Wednesday, December 11, 2002 11:30:55 PM >>> Nw6 sp2 -- We have 3 nw6 server installed, each using the license we received that in DS is called Novell + NetWare 6 Server + 600.ou.o iManager shows Units installed = unlimited, units in use = 3 and units available = unlimited However, one of the 3 servers has the following in the PM trace screen: 22:29:18: NLSNDSRequestWithChallenge (NULL, NULL, 2, NULL, Novell, NetWare 6 Se ver, 600, NULL, NULL, NULL, -1 ...): (0xC0001005) 22:29:18: RequestServerBaseLicense() (0xC0001005) 22:29:18: SBL Update Process cancelled 22:29:18: SBL Request Process scheduled in 90 ticks I had this kind of thing happen fairly often in nw5.1 -- and I would just go to nwadmin, find properties of the license, and re-add the missing server. And then it was fine. How do I do that using iManager? _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: Michael Callahan.vcf Url: http://netlab1.usu.edu/pipermail/novell/attachments/20021216/85e55837/attachment.ksh From ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu Mon Dec 16 21:32:15 2002 From: ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 16:32:15 -0500 Subject: nds login via apache Message-ID: Setting up NDS auth for apache, I notice that for the locations I've set up, I have to enter a leading "." (period) for authentication to succeed. But, for the locations setup for webmanager (default) no leading period is needed. So far, I cannot find the culprit, if there is one. ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- "Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it" http://www.congress.org http://www.tompaine.com --------------------------------------------------- From JRD at cc.usu.edu Mon Dec 16 21:38:45 2002 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 14:38:45 -0700 (MST) Subject: nds login via apache Message-ID: <01KQ3Q8Q1HPU91XTNE@cc.usu.edu> >Setting up NDS auth for apache, I notice that for the locations I've set >up, I have to enter a leading "." (period) for authentication to >succeed. But, for the locations setup for webmanager (default) no >leading period is needed. > >So far, I cannot find the culprit, if there is one. > >----------------------------------------- >Joe Acquisto >SUNY New Paltz >845-257-3134 (V) >845-257-6900 (F) ---------- For over a year now Novell's software has used at least four different login syntax methods. Which to use depends on in which cubicle the software was written. Different software, different syntax. I'm waiting to see if there is a fifth method. Joe D. From dtran at ssc.ucla.edu Mon Dec 16 21:55:04 2002 From: dtran at ssc.ucla.edu (Daniel Tran) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 13:55:04 -0800 Subject: nds login via apache In-Reply-To: <01KQ3Q8Q1HPU91XTNE@cc.usu.edu> Message-ID: <000001c2a54d$ca586250$49e56180@hp1> Not really a login process but you have to use this format .username.partition.context. when changing/assigning simple password via remote manager. I know it sounds crazy but that's the only way I can get it to work. Daniel - dtran at ssc.ucla.edu > -----Original Message----- > From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu > [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Joe Doupnik > Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 1:39 PM > To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu > Subject: Re: nds login via apache > > > >Setting up NDS auth for apache, I notice that for the locations I've > >set up, I have to enter a leading "." (period) for authentication to > >succeed. But, for the locations setup for webmanager (default) no > >leading period is needed. > > > >So far, I cannot find the culprit, if there is one. > > > >----------------------------------------- > >Joe Acquisto > >SUNY New Paltz > >845-257-3134 (V) > >845-257-6900 (F) > ---------- > For over a year now Novell's software has used at least > four different login syntax methods. Which to use depends on > in which cubicle the software was written. Different > software, different syntax. I'm waiting to see if there is a > fifth method. > Joe D. > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > From jserrone at uhs.edu Tue Dec 17 13:52:21 2002 From: jserrone at uhs.edu (Joe Serrone) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 07:52:21 -0600 Subject: OT: Segregating Networks? Message-ID: I have been asked to come up with the best way to segregate our students off of our main network and into their own. We want to be able to allow them to use their Laptops and connect and get Internet access, while still allowing them to get their email, etc... Our current setup is Novell 5.1 (SP5) with a GroupWise 6 server in the tree. Their accounts are part of a server in the tree and they have a home directory with a 6mb limit on it. I would like to be able to leave their NDS and GroupWise accounts in tact without having to move or recreate these accounts. Is it possible to have these accounts exist but have the students segmented off so that they cannot see the rest of the tree? Can Internet connectivity be achieved in this way as well? I know this is probably vague but any ideas or comments would be appreciated. Also, if anyone has a similar setup, I would appreciate hearing how they did it. Thanks Joe Serrone Systems Manager University of Health Sciences 1750 Independence Avenue Kansas City, MO 64106-1453 Phone: 816.283.2472 Fax: 816.283.0692 E-mail: jserrone at uhs.edu From DAbernathy at claytoncorp.com Tue Dec 17 14:17:00 2002 From: DAbernathy at claytoncorp.com (Dan Abernathy) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 08:17:00 -0600 Subject: Printing issue w/ GroupWise Message-ID: I have a problem here that's got me stumped. I have one user here whose print jobs from GroupWise come out missing a bunch of characters, as if it were produced on a typewriter missing a sizeable number of its keys. Things I've tried: Updating the Novell client. Updating the printer driver. Updating the firmware on the printer's internal JetDirect card. Removing and reinstalling GroupWise. Tried queue-based and NDPS printing, both have the same result. He's running Windows 98 with the latest Novell client. Other users with the same setup can print from GroupWise to this printer (an HP LaserJet 4Si) without any problems. The affected user himself can print to any of our other 4Si's without problems. He also has trouble printing from Internet Explorer, but printing from that results in a page full of "blocks", rather than the missing character issue seen in GroupWise. Any thoughts or things to try I haven't thought of? Dan From HADLEYJ at dominos.com Tue Dec 17 15:02:53 2002 From: HADLEYJ at dominos.com (John Hadley) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 10:02:53 -0500 Subject: Printing issue w/ GroupWise Message-ID: This might sound crazy, but I would reinstall Windows Messaging. If that doesn't fix it right away, I would reinstall Windows 98 (just slap it down right on top of the current image) John Hadley Email Administrator Domino's Pizza, LLC 734-930-3481 hadleyj at dominos.com >>> DAbernathy at claytoncorp.com 12/17/02 09:17AM >>> I have a problem here that's got me stumped. I have one user here whose print jobs from GroupWise come out missing a bunch of characters, as if it were produced on a typewriter missing a sizeable number of its keys. Things I've tried: Updating the Novell client. Updating the printer driver. Updating the firmware on the printer's internal JetDirect card. Removing and reinstalling GroupWise. Tried queue-based and NDPS printing, both have the same result. He's running Windows 98 with the latest Novell client. Other users with the same setup can print from GroupWise to this printer (an HP LaserJet 4Si) without any problems. The affected user himself can print to any of our other 4Si's without problems. He also has trouble printing from Internet Explorer, but printing from that results in a page full of "blocks", rather than the missing character issue seen in GroupWise. Any thoughts or things to try I haven't thought of? Dan _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From gwadmin at uhs.edu Tue Dec 17 15:34:56 2002 From: gwadmin at uhs.edu (Chris Ward) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 09:34:56 -0600 Subject: POP3 enabled Message-ID: I am researching the benefits and drawbacks to enabling POP3 on my NW5.1 sp3 GW6sp2 server and would like to draw upon your experiences? 1. Have you ran into security issues directly related to POP3? 2. Are there relaying issues with POP3? 3. Is authentication a problem? 4. Am I able to use any POP3 enabled client? 5. Are there ABEND's directly related to POP3 that I should watch out for? Thank you for your input. Chris Ward University of Health Sciences Network/GroupWise Administrator 1750 Independece Ave Kansas City, MO 64106 From KPARRIS at sde.state.sc.us Tue Dec 17 15:47:32 2002 From: KPARRIS at sde.state.sc.us (Kevin Parris) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 10:47:32 -0500 Subject: Directory entries. Message-ID: It would seem to me that Novell should include some logic in the GroupWise components to put the PURGE attribute on those directories where their activity files are, like the WPCSIN and WPCSOUT trees in a post office, or the SEND and RECEIVE on a GWIA setup, for example. But they have not done this yet, and the normal volume logic for a single directory having many thousands of salvageable files in it does not handle the situation gracefully every time, either. Since the volume data space is not full, it doesn't push salvageable entries off the list into free space, thus the directory structure gets no relief; as the file count grows performance declines too, and, as you have seen, eventual disaster looms. So if the idea of global "immediate purge" doesn't appeal to you, get a command prompt and map to your POA and MTA and GWIA (and any other gateways you may have, like the ASYNC or API) (they create and delete many files rapidly in normal operation, not just when having any sort of problems) home directories and run this utility: flag *.* +P /s /c and then those short-lived files won't be piling up any longer. While you're there, do a purge /a too and clean up any existing salvageable files. It may take many minutes for the command-line purge to clean up a few million salvageable files, but it won't take forever :) >>> Phillip at microwing.com 12/12/02 07:42PM >>> Greeting All!! Does anyone know off the top of their heads, just how many directory entries a NetWare 5.x server can have on any one volume?? I had a system run out of directory entries and it really created a mess!! GWIA was having a problem and created, over a 90 day period, enough small 1K files to burn up all the available slots in the directory table. It looked like about 5.2 billion entries....or is it 5.2 million... Any idea how long it will take to purge this many deleted files...??? thanks! Phillip From Phillip at microwing.com Tue Dec 17 17:04:12 2002 From: Phillip at microwing.com (Phillip Altmaier) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 09:04:12 -0800 Subject: Printing issue w/ GroupWise Message-ID: Greetings all! Does this user have the same problems if they log into another workstation?? If not then its time to Fdisk and reinstall a actual business OS.... Phillip From ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu Tue Dec 17 17:10:53 2002 From: ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 12:10:53 -0500 Subject: support page Message-ID: Can't find a webmaster link on the support page. Their most recent change makes the page hard to use, as the color scheme (grey on grey?) makes much of the text invisible until "hovered" over. ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- "Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it" http://www.congress.org http://www.tompaine.com --------------------------------------------------- From ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu Tue Dec 17 17:12:14 2002 From: ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 12:12:14 -0500 Subject: support page Message-ID: I guess they figured it out. joea. Can't find a webmaster link on the support page. Their most recent change makes the page hard to use, as the color scheme (grey on grey?) makes much of the text invisible until "hovered" over. ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- "Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it" http://www.congress.org http://www.tompaine.com --------------------------------------------------- From Phillip at microwing.com Tue Dec 17 17:17:11 2002 From: Phillip at microwing.com (Phillip Altmaier) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 09:17:11 -0800 Subject: Directory entries. -Update- Message-ID: Good morning!! The server took about 4.5 hours to run the purge. And this was using the purge.nlm from toolbox!! The command line purge seemed to have problems with the massive number of files that needed to be purged. It would find anywhere from 2-3 thousand to a few 100 thousand files then stop! I have flagged all the directories that GW uses to purge and I am hopping that I won't see this problem again! I found a solution to the problem in TID10057818 Not sure just how long this had been going on as I did not setup this server... Thanks for all the suggestions!! Phillip >>> KPARRIS at sde.state.sc.us 12/17/2002 7:47:32 AM >>> It would seem to me that Novell should include some logic in the GroupWise components to put the PURGE attribute on those directories where their activity files are, like the WPCSIN and WPCSOUT trees in a post office, or the SEND and RECEIVE on a GWIA setup, for example. But they have not done this yet, and the normal volume logic for a single directory having many thousands of salvageable files in it does not handle the situation gracefully every time, either. Since the volume data space is not full, it doesn't push salvageable entries off the list into free space, thus the directory structure gets no relief; as the file count grows performance declines too, and, as you have seen, eventual disaster looms. So if the idea of global "immediate purge" doesn't appeal to you, get a command prompt and map to your POA and MTA and GWIA (and any other gateways you may have, like the ASYNC or API) (they create and delete many files rapidly in normal operation, not just when having any sort of problems) home directories and run this utility: flag *.* +P /s /c and then those short-lived files won't be piling up any longer. While you're there, do a purge /a too and clean up any existing salvageable files. It may take many minutes for the command-line purge to clean up a few million salvageable files, but it won't take forever :) >>> Phillip at microwing.com 12/12/02 07:42PM >>> Greeting All!! Does anyone know off the top of their heads, just how many directory entries a NetWare 5.x server can have on any one volume?? I had a system run out of directory entries and it really created a mess!! GWIA was having a problem and created, over a 90 day period, enough small 1K files to burn up all the available slots in the directory table. It looked like about 5.2 billion entries....or is it 5.2 million... Any idea how long it will take to purge this many deleted files...??? thanks! Phillip _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From Rpd at co.mason.wa.us Tue Dec 17 17:58:38 2002 From: Rpd at co.mason.wa.us (Bob Deans) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 09:58:38 -0800 Subject: Cluster volume disappears yet lives on Message-ID: We have a 2-node cluster that has operated more or less flawlessly for more than six months. One pool/volume is called Home and one is called Files. Both are working fine today. I was looking into the possibility of compressing some (or all) of my NSS volumes today, so I started ConsoleOne, right-clicked my cluster object, selected the Media tab and NSS Logical Volumes. Home was there, but Files wasn't. Whoa! Then I checked the pools. Both the Home and Files pool are present, but the Files pool has all the information greyed out except Segment Number, State and LSS type. State is "Deactive". I press the Activate button on the right, but nothing happens. I can access files on that volume; indeed, as I said, it appears to be quite normal, and I wouldn't have discovered this if I hadn't been checking the cluster volume properties in ConsoleOne. What has happened? How can I fix it? Robert Deans CCNA, MCSE, CNE, MCP+I, Network+, A+ IS Manager Mason County Washington From JBarnes at shelburne.k12.vt.us Tue Dec 17 18:57:31 2002 From: JBarnes at shelburne.k12.vt.us (Jack Barnes) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 13:57:31 -0500 Subject: OT: Segregating Networks? Message-ID: We have our students in a different organizational unit in our tree. They have their own login script and rights that don't allow them to see servers, drives and folders that we don't give them rights to. this works fine and is very secure. In fact that is what a directory such as NDS is designed to do. Contact me off list if you want more details. Jack W. Barnes, CNE Network Manager Shelburne Community School jbarnes at shelburne.k12.vt.us 802-383-1118 >>> jserrone at uhs.edu 12/17/02 08:52AM >>> I have been asked to come up with the best way to segregate our students off of our main network and into their own. We want to be able to allow them to use their Laptops and connect and get Internet access, while still allowing them to get their email, etc... Our current setup is Novell 5.1 (SP5) with a GroupWise 6 server in the tree. Their accounts are part of a server in the tree and they have a home directory with a 6mb limit on it. I would like to be able to leave their NDS and GroupWise accounts in tact without having to move or recreate these accounts. Is it possible to have these accounts exist but have the students segmented off so that they cannot see the rest of the tree? Can Internet connectivity be achieved in this way as well? I know this is probably vague but any ideas or comments would be appreciated. Also, if anyone has a similar setup, I would appreciate hearing how they did it. Thanks Joe Serrone Systems Manager University of Health Sciences 1750 Independence Avenue Kansas City, MO 64106-1453 Phone: 816.283.2472 Fax: 816.283.0692 E-mail: jserrone at uhs.edu _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: Jack Barnes.vcf Url: http://netlab1.usu.edu/pipermail/novell/attachments/20021217/dacce5c9/attachment.ksh From maryve1 at starpower.net Tue Dec 17 20:27:00 2002 From: maryve1 at starpower.net (Mary Van Engelen) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 15:27:00 -0500 Subject: Apache console Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20021217152329.01fe2720@pop.starpower.net> I just noticed on the Apache console (on NW 5.1 sp5, eDir 8.62) that there is a screenful of "0:1,1:1". The Apache webserver is for an iFolder 2.0 implementation. Does anyone know what this is? Thanx, Mary From rrichard at alegent.org Tue Dec 17 20:30:10 2002 From: rrichard at alegent.org (Rhonda S Richardson) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 14:30:10 -0600 Subject: Printing issue w/ GroupWise Message-ID: I would also repair/reinstall the IE. GroupWise when printing via HTML prints using the IE application. Rhonda Richardson Alegent Health Omaha, NE VM: 402-717-1133 CELL: 402-660-3369 FAX: 402-717-1010 >>> HADLEYJ at dominos.com 12/17/02 01:00PM >>> This might sound crazy, but I would reinstall Windows Messaging. If that doesn't fix it right away, I would reinstall Windows 98 (just slap it down right on top of the current image) John Hadley Email Administrator Domino's Pizza, LLC 734-930-3481 hadleyj at dominos.com >>> DAbernathy at claytoncorp.com 12/17/02 09:17AM >>> I have a problem here that's got me stumped. I have one user here whose print jobs from GroupWise come out missing a bunch of characters, as if it were produced on a typewriter missing a sizeable number of its keys. Things I've tried: Updating the Novell client. Updating the printer driver. Updating the firmware on the printer's internal JetDirect card. Removing and reinstalling GroupWise. Tried queue-based and NDPS printing, both have the same result. He's running Windows 98 with the latest Novell client. Other users with the same setup can print from GroupWise to this printer (an HP LaserJet 4Si) without any problems. The affected user himself can print to any of our other 4Si's without problems. He also has trouble printing from Internet Explorer, but printing from that results in a page full of "blocks", rather than the missing character issue seen in GroupWise. Any thoughts or things to try I haven't thought of? 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From jsullivan at getthehatter.com Tue Dec 17 21:09:59 2002 From: jsullivan at getthehatter.com (Joe Sullivan) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 15:09:59 -0600 Subject: Directory entries. References: 902 Message-ID: <20021217T150959Z_424A00100000@getthehatter.com> Kevin, Some companies wish to have the salvage option available to them. Therefore it's not shut off by default. Many companies do view this as a document management risk though. Joe >>> Kevin Parris 12/17/2002 9:47:32 AM >>> It would seem to me that Novell should include some logic in the GroupWise components to put the PURGE attribute on those directories where their activity files are, like the WPCSIN and WPCSOUT trees in a post office, or the SEND and RECEIVE on a GWIA setup, for example. But they have not done this yet, and the normal volume logic for a single directory having many thousands of salvageable files in it does not handle the situation gracefully every time, either. Since the volume data space is not full, it doesn't push salvageable entries off the list into free space, thus the directory structure gets no relief; as the file count grows performance declines too, and, as you have seen, eventual disaster looms. So if the idea of global "immediate purge" doesn't appeal to you, get a command prompt and map to your POA and MTA and GWIA (and any other gateways you may have, like the ASYNC or API) (they create and delete many files rapidly in normal operation, not just when having any sort of problems) home directories and run this utility: flag *.* +P /s /c and then those short-lived files won't be piling up any longer. While you're there, do a purge /a too and clean up any existing salvageable files. It may take many minutes for the command-line purge to clean up a few million salvageable files, but it won't take forever :) >>> Phillip at microwing.com 12/12/02 07:42PM >>> Greeting All!! Does anyone know off the top of their heads, just how many directory entries a NetWare 5.x server can have on any one volume?? I had a system run out of directory entries and it really created a mess!! GWIA was having a problem and created, over a 90 day period, enough small 1K files to burn up all the available slots in the directory table. It looked like about 5.2 billion entries....or is it 5.2 million... Any idea how long it will take to purge this many deleted files...??? thanks! Phillip _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From maryve1 at starpower.net Tue Dec 17 21:45:35 2002 From: maryve1 at starpower.net (Mary Van Engelen) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 16:45:35 -0500 Subject: Apache console In-Reply-To: <01KQ52I5ENCY91XUPP@cc.usu.edu> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20021217164202.00b1bbb8@pop.starpower.net> Is there any way to turn it off? Someone just synced up their iFolder and now the screen is filling up with "0:1,1:1,2:1" and the sync info is scrolling off the screen. I'd rather be seeing the sync info. Mary At 12/17/2002 03:39 PM, Joe Doupnik wrote: > >I just noticed on the Apache console (on NW 5.1 sp5, eDir 8.62) that there > >is a screenful of "0:1,1:1". The Apache webserver is for an iFolder 2.0 > >implementation. > > > >Does anyone know what this is? > > > >Thanx, > >Mary >---------- > Just iFolder 2 diagnostics. Cosmetic things, disregard. > Joe D. > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From JRD at cc.usu.edu Tue Dec 17 23:00:50 2002 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 16:00:50 -0700 (MST) Subject: Apache console Message-ID: <01KQ57DHOOV691XTDY@cc.usu.edu> >Is there any way to turn it off? >Someone just synced up their iFolder and now the screen is filling up with >"0:1,1:1,2:1" and the sync info is scrolling off the screen. I'd rather be >seeing the sync info. > >Mary ---------- I dunno. I just let it do its thing. iFolder 2.1 is just about to start beta testing and you may wish to volunteer and get it fixed. Novell's web pages have a volunteer form, else beep Beverly Brown, babrown at novell.com, and tell her I sent you. Joe D. From toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee Wed Dec 18 06:29:26 2002 From: toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee (Toomas Aas) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:29:26 +0200 Subject: POP3 enabled In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200212180630.gBI6UP111687@lv.raad.tartu.ee> Hi! I don't run Groupwise, so my comments are about POP3 in general. > 1. Have you ran into security issues directly related to POP3? With standard POP3 running on port 110, usernames and passwords are transferred across the network in plain text. This hasn't caused *me* any problems yet, but still I don't like it. Once the can of worms has been opened, however, it's terribly hard to get the worms back into the can, so I've just had to live with it. There is POP3 over SSL (port 995), but I don't know if Groupwise supports it. > 2. Are there relaying issues with POP3? Relaying, if any, takes place in SMTP protocol, not POP3. Enabling or disabling POP3 has no effect on the relay capabilities of your server. > 3. Is authentication a problem? This question is probably too Groupwise-specific for me to answer :-) > 4. Am I able to use any POP3 enabled client? Shouldn't be any problems here. > 5. Are there ABEND's directly related to POP3 that I should watch out > for? Again, this is something for Groupwise experts. -- Toomas Aas | toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee | http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/ * The trouble with the global village are all the global village idiots. From gwadmin at uhs.edu Wed Dec 18 19:33:40 2002 From: gwadmin at uhs.edu (Chris Ward) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 13:33:40 -0600 Subject: DS memory error Message-ID: I have just received this error "Free received an invalid memory pointer". I have found a TID on it 10063874 but I had already adhered to this when to error came up. I am at DS 8.82 NW5.1 sp5. Has anyone dealt with this problem? Chris Ward University of Health Sciences Network/GroupWise Administrator 1750 Independece Ave Kansas City, MO 64106 From JRD at cc.usu.edu Wed Dec 18 20:02:05 2002 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 13:02:05 -0700 (MST) Subject: DS memory error Message-ID: <01KQ6FFN6F9U91XVYN@cc.usu.edu> >I have just received this error "Free received an invalid memory >pointer". I have found a TID on it 10063874 but I had already adhered >to this when to error came up. I am at DS 8.82 NW5.1 sp5. > >Has anyone dealt with this problem? > >Chris Ward >University of Health Sciences >Network/GroupWise Administrator >1750 Independece Ave >Kansas City, MO 64106 ------------- Sometimes it is just one of those things which happens, particularly when the real cause is elsewhere. If it repeats then become concerned. Btw, your DS version is one known to be filled with difficulties. When convenient have a careful look at upgrading to eDir 8.6.2 or better yet to eDir 8.7 (but it is still being shaken down in the field). Joe D. From gwadmin at uhs.edu Wed Dec 18 20:51:55 2002 From: gwadmin at uhs.edu (Chris Ward) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 14:51:55 -0600 Subject: DS memory error Message-ID: We had seen this same problem a couple of times on DS 8.77a and were hoping 8.82 would fix it. Are there any real world examples of this same problem with anyone else's network out there? Would like to see what others had tried either successfully or unsuccessfully. >>> JRD at cc.usu.edu 12/18/02 02:02PM >>> >I have just received this error "Free received an invalid memory >pointer". I have found a TID on it 10063874 but I had already adhered >to this when to error came up. I am at DS 8.82 NW5.1 sp5. > >Has anyone dealt with this problem? > >Chris Ward >University of Health Sciences >Network/GroupWise Administrator >1750 Independece Ave >Kansas City, MO 64106 ------------- Sometimes it is just one of those things which happens, particularly when the real cause is elsewhere. If it repeats then become concerned. Btw, your DS version is one known to be filled with difficulties. When convenient have a careful look at upgrading to eDir 8.6.2 or better yet to eDir 8.7 (but it is still being shaken down in the field). Joe D. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From zzz at mctc.mnscu.edu Thu Dec 19 01:10:11 2002 From: zzz at mctc.mnscu.edu (zzz) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 19:10:11 -0600 Subject: DS memory error Message-ID: I have run into this a couple of times myself with NW6. I was concerned at first because I had never seen this error before, and found scant info in the TIDs. In my case, it was as Joe D. indicated. It was erratic, and seemed to fix itself after server reboot the couple of times I saw it. Is this a persistent problem? Thanks Dana >>> gwadmin at uhs.edu 12/18/02 01:33PM >>> I have just received this error "Free received an invalid memory pointer". I have found a TID on it 10063874 but I had already adhered to this when to error came up. I am at DS 8.82 NW5.1 sp5. Has anyone dealt with this problem? Chris Ward University of Health Sciences Network/GroupWise Administrator 1750 Independece Ave Kansas City, MO 64106 _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From jserrone at uhs.edu Thu Dec 19 02:38:35 2002 From: jserrone at uhs.edu (Joe Serrone) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 20:38:35 -0600 Subject: OT: Segregating Networks? Message-ID: Thanks for the info. I was really just looking for advice and yours is good. I may send you another message about some things but for now, I am good. We have a similiar setup but the students are in part of an OU with Staff and Faculty. I need to see about putting them into their own OU and going from there. Thanks again. Joe Serrone Systems Manager University of Health Sciences 1750 Independence Avenue Kansas City, MO 64106-1453 Phone: 816.283.2472 Fax: 816.283.0692 E-mail: jserrone at uhs.edu >>> JBarnes at shelburne.k12.vt.us 12/17/02 12:57PM >>> We have our students in a different organizational unit in our tree. They have their own login script and rights that don't allow them to see servers, drives and folders that we don't give them rights to. this works fine and is very secure. In fact that is what a directory such as NDS is designed to do. Contact me off list if you want more details. Jack W. Barnes, CNE Network Manager Shelburne Community School jbarnes at shelburne.k12.vt.us 802-383-1118 >>> jserrone at uhs.edu 12/17/02 08:52AM >>> I have been asked to come up with the best way to segregate our students off of our main network and into their own. We want to be able to allow them to use their Laptops and connect and get Internet access, while still allowing them to get their email, etc... Our current setup is Novell 5.1 (SP5) with a GroupWise 6 server in the tree. Their accounts are part of a server in the tree and they have a home directory with a 6mb limit on it. I would like to be able to leave their NDS and GroupWise accounts in tact without having to move or recreate these accounts. Is it possible to have these accounts exist but have the students segmented off so that they cannot see the rest of the tree? Can Internet connectivity be achieved in this way as well? I know this is probably vague but any ideas or comments would be appreciated. Also, if anyone has a similar setup, I would appreciate hearing how they did it. Thanks Joe Serrone Systems Manager University of Health Sciences 1750 Independence Avenue Kansas City, MO 64106-1453 Phone: 816.283.2472 Fax: 816.283.0692 E-mail: jserrone at uhs.edu _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From GWADMIN at uhs.edu Thu Dec 19 02:50:37 2002 From: GWADMIN at uhs.edu (Chris Ward) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 20:50:37 -0600 Subject: DS memory error Message-ID: It is not persistent. I have only seen it a couple of times in the past 6 months. I just wanted documentation of a fix or a known bug that could be dealt with in a specific way. Thanks for your input. Chris Ward University of Health Sciences Network/GroupWise Administrator 1750 Independece Ave Kansas City, MO 64106 >>> "zzz" 12/18/02 19:11 PM >>> I have run into this a couple of times myself with NW6. I was concerned at first because I had never seen this error before, and found scant info in the TIDs. In my case, it was as Joe D. indicated. It was erratic, and seemed to fix itself after server reboot the couple of times I saw it. Is this a persistent problem? Thanks Dana >>> gwadmin at uhs.edu 12/18/02 01:33PM >>> I have just received this error "Free received an invalid memory pointer". I have found a TID on it 10063874 but I had already adhered to this when to error came up. I am at DS 8.82 NW5.1 sp5. Has anyone dealt with this problem? Chris Ward University of Health Sciences Network/GroupWise Administrator 1750 Independece Ave Kansas City, MO 64106 _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From JRD at cc.usu.edu Thu Dec 19 03:02:53 2002 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 20:02:53 -0700 (MST) Subject: DS memory error Message-ID: <01KQ6U2KFO4I91XW6W@cc.usu.edu> >It is not persistent. I have only seen it a couple of times in the past >6 months. I just wanted documentation of a fix or a known bug that >could be dealt with in a specific way. Thanks for your input. > >Chris Ward >University of Health Sciences >Network/GroupWise Administrator >1750 Independece Ave >Kansas City, MO 64106 ------- Roger that. Such strays have happened here, I note them and wait for reoccurences. So far they don't reappear except at very long random intervals. By then the o/s is due for a refresh and a new set may appear. I suspect the matter is one of combination of ingredients and circumstance. The error you saw was an invalid memory pointer, a situation rather easy to create in software via bugs but exposing the error might take just the right/wrong conditions. Joe D. From ochrist1 at twcny.rr.com Thu Dec 19 17:06:11 2002 From: ochrist1 at twcny.rr.com (Otto Christofferson) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 12:06:11 -0500 Subject: OT: Segregating Networks? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: You could also put the students under an O called Students, then put the students in OU's be category if you wish. This way, they would be able to be broken into groups if you wanted to. NDS is very flexible. Otto Christofferson, CNE 3, 4, 5, CNI ochrist1 at twcny.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu]On Behalf Of Joe Serrone Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:39 PM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: Re: OT: Segregating Networks? Thanks for the info. I was really just looking for advice and yours is good. I may send you another message about some things but for now, I am good. We have a similiar setup but the students are in part of an OU with Staff and Faculty. I need to see about putting them into their own OU and going from there. Thanks again. Joe Serrone Systems Manager University of Health Sciences 1750 Independence Avenue Kansas City, MO 64106-1453 Phone: 816.283.2472 Fax: 816.283.0692 E-mail: jserrone at uhs.edu >>> JBarnes at shelburne.k12.vt.us 12/17/02 12:57PM >>> We have our students in a different organizational unit in our tree. They have their own login script and rights that don't allow them to see servers, drives and folders that we don't give them rights to. this works fine and is very secure. In fact that is what a directory such as NDS is designed to do. Contact me off list if you want more details. Jack W. Barnes, CNE Network Manager Shelburne Community School jbarnes at shelburne.k12.vt.us 802-383-1118 >>> jserrone at uhs.edu 12/17/02 08:52AM >>> I have been asked to come up with the best way to segregate our students off of our main network and into their own. We want to be able to allow them to use their Laptops and connect and get Internet access, while still allowing them to get their email, etc... Our current setup is Novell 5.1 (SP5) with a GroupWise 6 server in the tree. Their accounts are part of a server in the tree and they have a home directory with a 6mb limit on it. I would like to be able to leave their NDS and GroupWise accounts in tact without having to move or recreate these accounts. Is it possible to have these accounts exist but have the students segmented off so that they cannot see the rest of the tree? Can Internet connectivity be achieved in this way as well? I know this is probably vague but any ideas or comments would be appreciated. Also, if anyone has a similar setup, I would appreciate hearing how they did it. Thanks Joe Serrone Systems Manager University of Health Sciences 1750 Independence Avenue Kansas City, MO 64106-1453 Phone: 816.283.2472 Fax: 816.283.0692 E-mail: jserrone at uhs.edu _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu Thu Dec 19 18:05:35 2002 From: ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 13:05:35 -0500 Subject: Edirectory restrictions, foreign and domestic. Message-ID: Now using LDAP (to NDS) authentication for GroupWise. Realised that login time restrictions (to "Netware" (actually NDS, of course)) will apply. "Higher ups" thought not, but tests show it is so. Question is, will LDAP authentication, (to NDS) be able to differentiate between systems. I realise this is kind of a dumb ass question, but . . . can edirectory (8.6.2, in this case) be used to allow "authentication" to "foreign" systems, yet allow native file and other restrictions to stay in place? I beg forgiveness in advance for not looking this up on my own, but you know how sudden issues can come up. ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- "Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it" http://www.congress.org http://www.tompaine.com --------------------------------------------------- From ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu Thu Dec 19 18:16:51 2002 From: ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 13:16:51 -0500 Subject: Edirectory restrictions, foreign and domestic. Message-ID: Err, I guess a more pressing part of the question, is: Is the login restriction supposed to apply to an LDAP call? joea >>> ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu 12/19/02 01:05PM >>> Now using LDAP (to NDS) authentication for GroupWise. Realised that login time restrictions (to "Netware" (actually NDS, of course)) will apply. "Higher ups" thought not, but tests show it is so. Question is, will LDAP authentication, (to NDS) be able to differentiate between systems. I realise this is kind of a dumb ass question, but . . . can edirectory (8.6.2, in this case) be used to allow "authentication" to "foreign" systems, yet allow native file and other restrictions to stay in place? I beg forgiveness in advance for not looking this up on my own, but you know how sudden issues can come up. ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- "Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it" http://www.congress.org http://www.tompaine.com --------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu Thu Dec 19 19:27:59 2002 From: ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 14:27:59 -0500 Subject: Edirectory restrictions, foreign and domestic. Message-ID: Testing with anb LDAP browse tool shows that a "refuse to perform" error is reported trying to gain access to nLDAP when login restrictions are in place. While this makes perfect sense to me (login is restricted, hence denied), some Unix head say this is screwed up and does not conform to LDAP specs, ie. "authentication" and "restrictions" are different "calls". So far, I've not been able to confirm or refute this claim. joea/ >>> ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu 12/19/02 01:16PM >>> Err, I guess a more pressing part of the question, is: Is the login restriction supposed to apply to an LDAP call? joea >>> ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu 12/19/02 01:05PM >>> Now using LDAP (to NDS) authentication for GroupWise. Realised that login time restrictions (to "Netware" (actually NDS, of course)) will apply. "Higher ups" thought not, but tests show it is so. Question is, will LDAP authentication, (to NDS) be able to differentiate between systems. I realise this is kind of a dumb ass question, but . . . can edirectory (8.6.2, in this case) be used to allow "authentication" to "foreign" systems, yet allow native file and other restrictions to stay in place? I beg forgiveness in advance for not looking this up on my own, but you know how sudden issues can come up. ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- "Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it" http://www.congress.org http://www.tompaine.com --------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From JRD at cc.usu.edu Thu Dec 19 19:59:08 2002 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 12:59:08 -0700 (MST) Subject: Edirectory restrictions, foreign and domestic. Message-ID: <01KQ7TM5RLHU91XX1O@cc.usu.edu> >Testing with anb LDAP browse tool shows that a "refuse to perform" error >is reported trying to gain access to nLDAP when login restrictions are >in place. > >While this makes perfect sense to me (login is restricted, hence >denied), some Unix head say this is screwed up and does not conform to >LDAP specs, ie. "authentication" and "restrictions" are different >"calls". > >So far, I've not been able to confirm or refute this claim. > >joea/ --------- You may ask your esteemed colleague to point out the two items in the RFCs. RFC2251 will do for openers, defining LDAP v3. See page 19 et seq for the BIND request, where authentication also occurs. Joe D. From JRD at cc.usu.edu Thu Dec 19 22:50:57 2002 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:50:57 -0700 (MST) Subject: Query on eGuide Message-ID: <01KQ7ZLESRVM91XX4I@cc.usu.edu> Since Joe A. asked about LDAP today, it's my turn to ask a related question. I've been looking at the most recent version of eGuide, as it is bundled with eDir 8.7. I find it is unable to perform an LDAP query with an anonymous bind. This effect shows immediately when trying to configure eGuide for first use, and an administrator's username is requested. Lookups fail unless a real user's name is given for LDAP binding. This seems peculiar for a nearly pure LDAP program such as eGuide. Any insights from the field? Joe D. From maryve1 at starpower.net Fri Dec 20 00:51:30 2002 From: maryve1 at starpower.net (Mary Van Engelen) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 19:51:30 -0500 Subject: SSL Certificates and IE Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20021219192034.01c67310@pop.starpower.net> What's the deal with Internet Explorer and SSL certificates generated with Novell Certificate Server? I've been able to install certificates into Netscape 4.7 and 7.0 and have it work (I don't get asked to do it again the next time I access the website). But with IE 6, it asks to accept the cert everytime I access the site. I've gone through the install wizard a number of times as well. The website in question is our iFolder website (inside the firewall). Everything is working fine here except for the blasted certificate using IE. It's the last piece to fix before we let those prima donnas (donnae?) we call users have at it. I've edited the mod_tls in httpd.conf file under the iFolder directory to match the name of the KMO. I also exported both the matching trusted root and public key certs and put them in SYS:\PUBLIC. Stopped and started iFolder after each change. There are no errors on the console. Any ideas? Mary P.S. Sorry for the rant...it's been a bad day. From rgaspar at patlq.com Fri Dec 20 01:10:05 2002 From: rgaspar at patlq.com (Roland Gaspar) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:10:05 -0500 Subject: SSL Certificates and IE Message-ID: I remember something about importing the signers CA certificate (your tree CA certificate) on the workstations so that it will acknowledge your CA as valid and stop pestering you... but this is a vague recollection... ________________________ Roland Gaspar Tel.: (514) 398-7880 xt 8603 ICQ # 1355591 www.renee-wagner.com/~roland >>> maryve1 at starpower.net 12/19/02 7:51:30 PM >>> What's the deal with Internet Explorer and SSL certificates generated with Novell Certificate Server? I've been able to install certificates into Netscape 4.7 and 7.0 and have it work (I don't get asked to do it again the next time I access the website). But with IE 6, it asks to accept the cert everytime I access the site. I've gone through the install wizard a number of times as well. The website in question is our iFolder website (inside the firewall). Everything is working fine here except for the blasted certificate using IE. It's the last piece to fix before we let those prima donnas (donnae?) we call users have at it. I've edited the mod_tls in httpd.conf file under the iFolder directory to match the name of the KMO. I also exported both the matching trusted root and public key certs and put them in SYS:\PUBLIC. Stopped and started iFolder after each change. There are no errors on the console. Any ideas? Mary P.S. Sorry for the rant...it's been a bad day. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From JRD at cc.usu.edu Fri Dec 20 01:10:44 2002 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 18:10:44 -0700 (MST) Subject: SSL Certificates and IE Message-ID: <01KQ84DS2H4I91XXDT@cc.usu.edu> >What's the deal with Internet Explorer and SSL certificates generated with >Novell Certificate Server? Nothing is wrong. The certificate was issued correctly and that part is easy and slick. Where the likely worry is the browser says it can't verify the originator of the cert chain, and the Novell's CA is that originator (if you used Novell's CA cert). You have two choices at this point. One is tell the browser to accept the cert and believe it hence forth. The other is to add Novell's CA cert to the pile of trusted certs from other sources, and store that in the browser's pile of them. This is explained at length in Novell's docs on certs. Exactly the same thing happens if you use openssl on a Unix box and make it a Cert Authority. Same reason. The trust business is a business, $$$$, and it is you who puts trust into it. Joe D. From JRD at cc.usu.edu Fri Dec 20 01:42:53 2002 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 18:42:53 -0700 (MST) Subject: Maybe a clue... maybe Message-ID: <01KQ85L8Z0ZM91XXEG@cc.usu.edu> I discovered something of possible use tonight. Installation of a service pack left me with a server which would not boot because it thought a file was bad or missing in c:\nwserver. The file was present, but of the old date rather than its proper replacement. The cause is the file, one of many as it turns out, is shipped with a lower case filename in the service pack. Such are not copied, leaving the previous file still there. Workarounds: copy such files by hand, if necessary using a floppy to c:\nwserver so the machine will start. Or use toolbox if the machine can get up that far. But nwconfig's product installation scripts fail. Joe D. From maryve1 at starpower.net Fri Dec 20 04:23:37 2002 From: maryve1 at starpower.net (Mary Van Engelen) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 23:23:37 -0500 Subject: SSL Certificates and IE In-Reply-To: <01KQ84DS2H4I91XXDT@cc.usu.edu> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20021219224729.00b36d78@pop.starpower.net> At 12/19/2002 08:10 PM, Joe Doupnik wrote: > >What's the deal with Internet Explorer and SSL certificates generated with > >Novell Certificate Server? > > Nothing is wrong. The certificate was issued correctly and that >part is easy and slick. Where the likely worry is the browser says it >can't verify the originator of the cert chain, and the Novell's CA is >that originator (if you used Novell's CA cert). Yes. Can't verify originator. I used Organizational CA. Seems Netscape comes packaged with a Verisign CA for Novell and that's why it works. > You have two choices at this point. One is tell the browser to >accept the cert and believe it hence forth. The other is to add Novell's CA This is the problem. It won't believe it hence forth. >cert to the pile of trusted certs from other sources, and store that in >the browser's pile of them. This is explained at length in Novell's docs >on certs. Read the 2.0 manual but haven't read 2.2.1 yet (just printed it out today). I didn't get much of what was written in the 2.0 manual so everything has been TIDs. Where do I get the Novell CA ? Is that the new object choice where I can select Organizational CA or Novell? Do I put it in sys:/public and it will automatically download like the other certs? > Exactly the same thing happens if you use openssl on a Unix box >and make it a Cert Authority. Same reason. Never use Unix so the simile is lost on me. > The trust business is a business, $$$$, and it is you who puts >trust into it. > Joe D. >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From Mattias.Widman at esv.se Fri Dec 20 14:20:29 2002 From: Mattias.Widman at esv.se (Mattias Widman) Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 15:20:29 +0100 Subject: Import ACL in BM3.7 Message-ID: Is it possible to import a list of hosts I want to be blocked in BorderManager 3.7? Or will I have to type them in, one by one? -- Mattias From debbie_carraway at ncsu.edu Fri Dec 20 14:55:23 2002 From: debbie_carraway at ncsu.edu (DEBORAH CARRAWAY) Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 09:55:23 -0500 Subject: SSL Certificates and IE Message-ID: Hi, Novell TID >>> maryve1 at starpower.net 12/19/02 11:23PM >>> At 12/19/2002 08:10 PM, Joe Doupnik wrote: > >What's the deal with Internet Explorer and SSL certificates generated with > >Novell Certificate Server? > > Nothing is wrong. The certificate was issued correctly and that >part is easy and slick. Where the likely worry is the browser says it >can't verify the originator of the cert chain, and the Novell's CA is >that originator (if you used Novell's CA cert). Yes. Can't verify originator. I used Organizational CA. Seems Netscape comes packaged with a Verisign CA for Novell and that's why it works. > You have two choices at this point. One is tell the browser to >accept the cert and believe it hence forth. The other is to add Novell's CA This is the problem. It won't believe it hence forth. >cert to the pile of trusted certs from other sources, and store that in >the browser's pile of them. This is explained at length in Novell's docs >on certs. Read the 2.0 manual but haven't read 2.2.1 yet (just printed it out today). I didn't get much of what was written in the 2.0 manual so everything has been TIDs. Where do I get the Novell CA ? Is that the new object choice where I can select Organizational CA or Novell? Do I put it in sys:/public and it will automatically download like the other certs? > Exactly the same thing happens if you use openssl on a Unix box >and make it a Cert Authority. Same reason. Never use Unix so the simile is lost on me. > The trust business is a business, $$$$, and it is you who puts >trust into it. > Joe D. >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From debbie_carraway at ncsu.edu Fri Dec 20 14:57:10 2002 From: debbie_carraway at ncsu.edu (DEBORAH CARRAWAY) Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 09:57:10 -0500 Subject: SSL Certificates and IE Message-ID: Hi, Check out http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/10064408.htm This will explain how to get the trusted root CA imported into IE. If you use the IEAK to create a distribution, you can pre-insert your tree's trusted root CA into the IE certificate store. Debbie >>> maryve1 at starpower.net 12/19/02 11:23PM >>> At 12/19/2002 08:10 PM, Joe Doupnik wrote: > >What's the deal with Internet Explorer and SSL certificates generated with > >Novell Certificate Server? > > Nothing is wrong. The certificate was issued correctly and that >part is easy and slick. Where the likely worry is the browser says it >can't verify the originator of the cert chain, and the Novell's CA is >that originator (if you used Novell's CA cert). Yes. Can't verify originator. I used Organizational CA. Seems Netscape comes packaged with a Verisign CA for Novell and that's why it works. > You have two choices at this point. One is tell the browser to >accept the cert and believe it hence forth. The other is to add Novell's CA This is the problem. It won't believe it hence forth. >cert to the pile of trusted certs from other sources, and store that in >the browser's pile of them. This is explained at length in Novell's docs >on certs. Read the 2.0 manual but haven't read 2.2.1 yet (just printed it out today). I didn't get much of what was written in the 2.0 manual so everything has been TIDs. Where do I get the Novell CA ? Is that the new object choice where I can select Organizational CA or Novell? Do I put it in sys:/public and it will automatically download like the other certs? > Exactly the same thing happens if you use openssl on a Unix box >and make it a Cert Authority. Same reason. Never use Unix so the simile is lost on me. > The trust business is a business, $$$$, and it is you who puts >trust into it. > Joe D. >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From JRD at cc.usu.edu Fri Dec 20 15:09:00 2002 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 08:09:00 -0700 (MST) Subject: SSL Certificates and IE Message-ID: <01KQ8XMYWFGI91XXVQ@cc.usu.edu> > >Novell TID > >>>> maryve1 at starpower.net 12/19/02 11:23PM >>> >At 12/19/2002 08:10 PM, Joe Doupnik wrote: >> >What's the deal with Internet Explorer and SSL certificates >generated with >> >Novell Certificate Server? >> >> Nothing is wrong. The certificate was issued correctly and >that >>part is easy and slick. Where the likely worry is the browser says it >>can't verify the originator of the cert chain, and the Novell's CA is >>that originator (if you used Novell's CA cert). > >Yes. Can't verify originator. I used Organizational CA. Seems Netscape > >comes packaged with a Verisign CA for Novell and that's why it works. > >> You have two choices at this point. One is tell the browser >to >>accept the cert and believe it hence forth. The other is to add >Novell's CA > >This is the problem. It won't believe it hence forth. > >>cert to the pile of trusted certs from other sources, and store that >in >>the browser's pile of them. This is explained at length in Novell's >docs >>on certs. > >Read the 2.0 manual but haven't read 2.2.1 yet (just printed it out >today). >I didn't get much of what was written in the 2.0 manual so everything >has >been TIDs. Where do I get the Novell CA ? Is that the new object >choice >where I can select Organizational CA or Novell? Do I put it in >sys:/public >and it will automatically download like the other certs? You already have a CA cert. It is file sys:public\rootcert.der. The .der extension means the binary file is encoded in a form acceptable to Microsoft products. The x509 form is for Netscape products. Same binary, different ways of converting it to ASCII format. Personally I find the cert and crypto business so heavily laden with jargon and unexplained terminology that the mind boggles. This is ungood out here in the field, yet the crypto community cares not. Get thee to the TID dominion and read the Novell version of adding the root cert to a browser. Good luck, Joe D. > Exactly the same thing happens if you use openssl on a Unix box >and make it a Cert Authority. Same reason. Never use Unix so the simile is lost on me. > The trust business is a business, $$$$, and it is you who puts >trust into it. > Joe D. >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From maryve1 at starpower.net Fri Dec 20 15:28:00 2002 From: maryve1 at starpower.net (Mary Van Engelen) Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 10:28:00 -0500 Subject: SSL Certificates and IE In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20021220102224.0265e968@pop.starpower.net> Yes. I've done that and it works on my browser. But, how do I make this easily available to my users when they are on their home computers? What's IEAK? Mary At 12/20/2002 09:57 AM, DEBORAH CARRAWAY wrote: >Hi, > >Check out > >http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/10064408.htm > > >This will explain how to get the trusted root CA imported into IE. If >you use the IEAK to create a distribution, you can pre-insert your >tree's trusted root CA into the IE certificate store. > >Debbie > > >>> maryve1 at starpower.net 12/19/02 11:23PM >>> >At 12/19/2002 08:10 PM, Joe Doupnik wrote: > > >What's the deal with Internet Explorer and SSL certificates >generated with > > >Novell Certificate Server? > > > > Nothing is wrong. The certificate was issued correctly and >that > >part is easy and slick. Where the likely worry is the browser says it > >can't verify the originator of the cert chain, and the Novell's CA is > >that originator (if you used Novell's CA cert). > >Yes. Can't verify originator. I used Organizational CA. Seems Netscape > >comes packaged with a Verisign CA for Novell and that's why it works. > > > You have two choices at this point. One is tell the browser >to > >accept the cert and believe it hence forth. The other is to add >Novell's CA > >This is the problem. It won't believe it hence forth. > > >cert to the pile of trusted certs from other sources, and store that >in > >the browser's pile of them. This is explained at length in Novell's >docs > >on certs. > >Read the 2.0 manual but haven't read 2.2.1 yet (just printed it out >today). >I didn't get much of what was written in the 2.0 manual so everything >has >been TIDs. Where do I get the Novell CA ? Is that the new object >choice >where I can select Organizational CA or Novell? Do I put it in >sys:/public >and it will automatically download like the other certs? > > > Exactly the same thing happens if you use openssl on a Unix >box > >and make it a Cert Authority. Same reason. > >Never use Unix so the simile is lost on me. > > > The trust business is a business, $$$$, and it is you who >puts > >trust into it. > > Joe D. > >_______________________________________________ > >Novell mailing list > >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > >http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From debbie_carraway at ncsu.edu Fri Dec 20 15:37:22 2002 From: debbie_carraway at ncsu.edu (DEBORAH CARRAWAY) Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 10:37:22 -0500 Subject: SSL Certificates and IE Message-ID: Hi, You'll need to make your trusted root certificate available to your end users with instructions, or use IEAK to build a custom distribution for them. IEAK is the Microsoft Internet Explorer Administration Kit, which lets you build customized distributions of Internet Explorer. See: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ieak/default.asp Good luck! Debbie >>> maryve1 at starpower.net 12/20/02 10:28AM >>> Yes. I've done that and it works on my browser. But, how do I make this easily available to my users when they are on their home computers? What's IEAK? Mary At 12/20/2002 09:57 AM, DEBORAH CARRAWAY wrote: >Hi, > >Check out > >http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/10064408.htm > > >This will explain how to get the trusted root CA imported into IE. If >you use the IEAK to create a distribution, you can pre-insert your >tree's trusted root CA into the IE certificate store. > >Debbie > > >>> maryve1 at starpower.net 12/19/02 11:23PM >>> >At 12/19/2002 08:10 PM, Joe Doupnik wrote: > > >What's the deal with Internet Explorer and SSL certificates >generated with > > >Novell Certificate Server? > > > > Nothing is wrong. The certificate was issued correctly and >that > >part is easy and slick. Where the likely worry is the browser says it > >can't verify the originator of the cert chain, and the Novell's CA is > >that originator (if you used Novell's CA cert). > >Yes. Can't verify originator. I used Organizational CA. Seems Netscape > >comes packaged with a Verisign CA for Novell and that's why it works. > > > You have two choices at this point. One is tell the browser >to > >accept the cert and believe it hence forth. The other is to add >Novell's CA > >This is the problem. It won't believe it hence forth. > > >cert to the pile of trusted certs from other sources, and store that >in > >the browser's pile of them. This is explained at length in Novell's >docs > >on certs. > >Read the 2.0 manual but haven't read 2.2.1 yet (just printed it out >today). >I didn't get much of what was written in the 2.0 manual so everything >has >been TIDs. Where do I get the Novell CA ? Is that the new object >choice >where I can select Organizational CA or Novell? Do I put it in >sys:/public >and it will automatically download like the other certs? > > > Exactly the same thing happens if you use openssl on a Unix >box > >and make it a Cert Authority. Same reason. > >Never use Unix so the simile is lost on me. > > > The trust business is a business, $$$$, and it is you who >puts > >trust into it. > > Joe D. > >_______________________________________________ > >Novell mailing list > >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > >http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From doug_black at myrealbox.com Fri Dec 20 19:25:51 2002 From: doug_black at myrealbox.com (Doug Black) Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 14:25:51 -0500 Subject: SSL Certificates and IE Message-ID: <1040412351.5709c4c0doug_black@myrealbox.com> Mary Van Engelen wrote: >What's the deal with Internet Explorer and SSL >certificates generated with Novell Certificate Server? >I've been able to install certificates into Netscape > 4.7 and 7.0 and have it work (I don't get asked to do > it again the next time I access the website). But > with IE 6, it asks to accept the cert everytime I > access the site. I've gone through the install wizard > a number of times as well. Novell TID 10022136 should do the trick. It tells you how to import the *Root* certificate into the IE certificate store. HTH Doug From mlkollmorgan at comcast.net Sat Dec 21 07:09:56 2002 From: mlkollmorgan at comcast.net (Mike Kollmorgan) Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 02:09:56 -0500 Subject: Apache console - Off subject In-Reply-To: <01KQ57DHOOV691XTDY@cc.usu.edu> Message-ID: <00de01c2a8bf$f7a54aa0$6d01a8c0@lcs.com> How do I send requests to the new listserv. Should I use novell at netlab1.usu.edu? Thanks Mike Kollmorgan Logical Computer Solutions > -----Original Message----- > From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu [mailto:novell- > bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Joe Doupnik > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 6:01 PM > To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu > Subject: Re: Apache console > > >Is there any way to turn it off? > >Someone just synced up their iFolder and now the screen is filling up > with > >"0:1,1:1,2:1" and the sync info is scrolling off the screen. I'd rather > be > >seeing the sync info. > > > >Mary > ---------- > I dunno. I just let it do its thing. iFolder 2.1 is just about > to start beta testing and you may wish to volunteer and get it fixed. > Novell's web pages have a volunteer form, else beep Beverly Brown, > babrown at novell.com, and tell her I sent you. > Joe D. > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From kcc at dev.urel.berkeley.edu Sat Dec 21 07:08:49 2002 From: kcc at dev.urel.berkeley.edu (kcc at dev.urel.berkeley.edu) Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 23:08:49 -0800 Subject: Apache console - Off subject Message-ID: <4A79ED3370A@dev.urel.berkeley.edu> I will be out of the office from 12/23/02 to 1/01/03. I will respond to my email messages when i return. Happy Holidays. From JRD at cc.usu.edu Sat Dec 21 17:42:03 2002 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 10:42:03 -0700 (MST) Subject: Apache console - Off subject Message-ID: <01KQAHB27TGI91XZAQ@cc.usu.edu> >How do I send requests to the new listserv. Should I use >novell at netlab1.usu.edu? > >Thanks > >Mike Kollmorgan >Logical Computer Solutions ------------ I presume you mean admin style control requests. There are two pathways: web and email. For web please refer to the footnote at the bottom of each list message. For email please send a simple (no sigs, no html, no vcards) message to novell-request at netlab1.usu.edu with what you want to do. A one word message help will return a list of the commands available. A reminder to the population: please do not use "vacation" or "out of the office" techniques. For the list, visit netlab1.usu.edu with a browser, examine your current options and select no mail. If you don't I may just block the subscription. Joe D. From maryve1 at starpower.net Sat Dec 21 22:15:38 2002 From: maryve1 at starpower.net (Mary Van Engelen) Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 17:15:38 -0500 Subject: SSL Certificates and IE In-Reply-To: <1040412351.5709c4c0doug_black@myrealbox.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20021221164935.027d46e0@pop.starpower.net> What's the difference between just importing RootCert.der and exporting a self-signed certificate and importing that? Regardless, I've moved along and did the self-signed certificate procedures and this worked when imported into IE6. That was when I was working on my computer at the office. I then tried it at home and it worked there, too. However, an interesting problem came up. I've been searching all day for a solution to this and have come up empty-handed (Well, almost....I did run across some instructions on how to provide a link on the website so the user can download the self-signed cert from the website. That was a good find.) Here's what happened before I installed the self-signed cert. When I logged onto the website and clicked on the Login link, I got the usual "do you want to accept this certificate". I click on "Yes" and the dark gray background of the Java version of the folder view came up and that's all. Nothing else. No login dialog. There was an error message at the bottom of the window -- "load: class NID Applet not found". I did not have this problem when I was testing on my work computer. If I use the Login (PDA) link, I get login dialog. No problem with the login dialog coming up with the cert installed. I'm not sure if this a firewall problem (internal vs. external) or a problem with the IE6 configuration on my home computer. I tried enabling JAVA in Internet Options > Advanced. Also enabled TLS there. Neither helped. Anyone have any clues? Thanks, Mary At 12/20/2002 02:25 PM, Doug Black wrote: >Mary Van Engelen wrote: > > > >What's the deal with Internet Explorer and SSL >certificates generated > with Novell Certificate Server? > > >I've been able to install certificates into Netscape > > 4.7 and 7.0 and have it work (I don't get asked to do > > it again the next time I access the website). But > > with IE 6, it asks to accept the cert everytime I > > access the site. I've gone through the install wizard > > a number of times as well. > >Novell TID 10022136 should do the trick. It tells you how to import the >*Root* certificate into the IE certificate store. > >HTH > >Doug > > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From ian at fastnet.bc.ca Sun Dec 22 19:10:40 2002 From: ian at fastnet.bc.ca (Ian Dobson) Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 11:10:40 -0800 Subject: windows2000 and Novell client slowness References: Message-ID: <001401c2a9ed$d198cab0$0b01a8c0@xp01> Hi, We recently upgraded our clients from win98 to windows 2000. We have the novell client installed in 50 or so machines, we run lots of network intensive applications, and we also use Zen. Problem is the Novel client is very slow compared with client services for netware, how can we get the novell client anywhere near the speed of client services for netware? an example is a report that rins in 20 seconds on client services for netware takes 15 mins on the novell client. From maryve1 at starpower.net Sun Dec 22 21:42:26 2002 From: maryve1 at starpower.net (Mary Van Engelen) Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 16:42:26 -0500 Subject: windows2000 and Novell client slowness In-Reply-To: <001401c2a9ed$d198cab0$0b01a8c0@xp01> References: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20021222162605.028c5e78@pop.starpower.net> Check your antivirus software to make sure it isn't scanning network drives. We just went through this. None of the other suggestions resolved it. We finally discovered that Norton Antivirus 7.6 client, which was rolled out with the Win2K roll out, had been set to scan network drives. Other suggestions: Check the file caching and file commit settings on the client. I can't remember off hand which is supposed to be on or off, but I seem to recall that it should be the opposite of the default settings. If you check the archives of this list you should be able to find that info. Make sure you have installed Win2k service pack 3. Someone else on this list found a registry key that was causing problems prior to sp3. I didn't find it on our systems and we already had sp3. Then there's the obvious one of checking to make sure you are running the most up-to-date NIC driver. Do check this list's archives though (see links below). This question has come up a number of times and there's several ideas there. Mary At 12/22/2002 02:10 PM, Ian Dobson wrote: >Hi, We recently upgraded our clients from win98 to windows 2000. We have the >novell client installed in 50 or so machines, we run lots of network >intensive applications, and we also use Zen. > >Problem is the Novel client is very slow compared with client services for >netware, how can we get the novell client anywhere near the speed of client >services for netware? > >an example is a report that rins in 20 seconds on client services for >netware takes 15 mins on the novell client. > > > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From debbie_carraway at ncsu.edu Mon Dec 23 01:42:04 2002 From: debbie_carraway at ncsu.edu (DEBORAH CARRAWAY) Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 20:42:04 -0500 Subject: edir 8.7 update notes Message-ID: Hi all, We recently upgraded to eDirectory 8.7 (DS 10410.98) from eDirectory 8.6.2 sp 2a (DS 10350.07). The eDir 8.7 upgrade itself was also somewhat problematic. As a result, we put together a pre/post checklist at http://www.nag.ncsu.edu/nag/edir87 with our notes. There's already a field test release of eDir 8.7 available from Novell Tech Support that addresses some of the issues we saw, plus some doozies we didn't. It may be advisable to wait for the next patch release before upgrading. Upgrading from NetWare 5.1 to NetWare 6 after the eDirectory 8.7 install is rather painful. There's a how-to at: http://microsys.unity.ncsu.edu/it/systems/microsys/NW/ITD-nw51to6-upgrade.htm On a positive note, we saw some obits process that had been stuck a long time, sync looks cleaner than ever, and maximum ring deltas are back in the reasonable range on all our partitions. The new iMonitor reports are sweet too. Cheers, Debbie From kcc at dev.urel.berkeley.edu Mon Dec 23 01:43:54 2002 From: kcc at dev.urel.berkeley.edu (kcc at dev.urel.berkeley.edu) Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 17:43:54 -0800 Subject: edir 8.7 update notes Message-ID: <4D235C145E9@dev.urel.berkeley.edu> I will be out of the office from 12/23/02 to 1/01/03. I will respond to my email messages when i return. Happy Holidays. From kcc at dev.urel.berkeley.edu Mon Dec 23 01:45:08 2002 From: kcc at dev.urel.berkeley.edu (kcc at dev.urel.berkeley.edu) Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 17:45:08 -0800 Subject: edir 8.7 update notes Message-ID: <4D23AFC1109@dev.urel.berkeley.edu> I will be out of the office from 12/23/02 to 1/01/03. I will respond to my email messages when i return. Happy Holidays. From kcc at dev.urel.berkeley.edu Mon Dec 23 01:46:12 2002 From: kcc at dev.urel.berkeley.edu (kcc at dev.urel.berkeley.edu) Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 17:46:12 -0800 Subject: edir 8.7 update notes Message-ID: <4D23F7F34A8@dev.urel.berkeley.edu> I will be out of the office from 12/23/02 to 1/01/03. I will respond to my email messages when i return. Happy Holidays. From kcc at dev.urel.berkeley.edu Mon Dec 23 01:47:04 2002 From: kcc at dev.urel.berkeley.edu (kcc at dev.urel.berkeley.edu) Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 17:47:04 -0800 Subject: edir 8.7 update notes Message-ID: <4D2434350C9@dev.urel.berkeley.edu> I will be out of the office from 12/23/02 to 1/01/03. I will respond to my email messages when i return. Happy Holidays. From kcc at dev.urel.berkeley.edu Mon Dec 23 01:48:29 2002 From: kcc at dev.urel.berkeley.edu (kcc at dev.urel.berkeley.edu) Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 17:48:29 -0800 Subject: edir 8.7 update notes Message-ID: <4D2493E4043@dev.urel.berkeley.edu> I will be out of the office from 12/23/02 to 1/01/03. I will respond to my email messages when i return. Happy Holidays. From kcc at dev.urel.berkeley.edu Mon Dec 23 01:49:11 2002 From: kcc at dev.urel.berkeley.edu (kcc at dev.urel.berkeley.edu) Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 17:49:11 -0800 Subject: edir 8.7 update notes Message-ID: <4D24C493F5E@dev.urel.berkeley.edu> I will be out of the office from 12/23/02 to 1/01/03. I will respond to my email messages when i return. Happy Holidays. From kcc at dev.urel.berkeley.edu Mon Dec 23 01:50:25 2002 From: kcc at dev.urel.berkeley.edu (kcc at dev.urel.berkeley.edu) Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 17:50:25 -0800 Subject: edir 8.7 update notes Message-ID: <4D2518570B0@dev.urel.berkeley.edu> I will be out of the office from 12/23/02 to 1/01/03. I will respond to my email messages when i return. Happy Holidays. From kcc at dev.urel.berkeley.edu Mon Dec 23 01:51:49 2002 From: kcc at dev.urel.berkeley.edu (kcc at dev.urel.berkeley.edu) Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 17:51:49 -0800 Subject: edir 8.7 update notes Message-ID: <4D257810EC5@dev.urel.berkeley.edu> I will be out of the office from 12/23/02 to 1/01/03. I will respond to my email messages when i return. Happy Holidays. From kcc at dev.urel.berkeley.edu Mon Dec 23 01:52:52 2002 From: kcc at dev.urel.berkeley.edu (kcc at dev.urel.berkeley.edu) Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 17:52:52 -0800 Subject: edir 8.7 update notes Message-ID: <4D25C004ED9@dev.urel.berkeley.edu> I will be out of the office from 12/23/02 to 1/01/03. I will respond to my email messages when i return. Happy Holidays. From AHidalgo at salud.unm.edu Mon Dec 23 13:47:50 2002 From: AHidalgo at salud.unm.edu (Al Hidalgo) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 06:47:50 -0700 Subject: edir 8.7 update notes Message-ID: I upgraded over 10 production servers and did not have any problems and have not seen any problems since. -a Al Hidalgo, MCNE Senior Analyst Information Systems University Hospitals ahidalgo at salud.unm.edu >>> debbie_carraway at ncsu.edu 12/22/02 6:42:04 PM >>> Hi all, We recently upgraded to eDirectory 8.7 (DS 10410.98) from eDirectory 8.6.2 sp 2a (DS 10350.07). The eDir 8.7 upgrade itself was also somewhat problematic. As a result, we put together a pre/post checklist at http://www.nag.ncsu.edu/nag/edir87 with our notes. There's already a field test release of eDir 8.7 available from Novell Tech Support that addresses some of the issues we saw, plus some doozies we didn't. It may be advisable to wait for the next patch release before upgrading. Upgrading from NetWare 5.1 to NetWare 6 after the eDirectory 8.7 install is rather painful. There's a how-to at: http://microsys.unity.ncsu.edu/it/systems/microsys/NW/ITD-nw51to6-upgrade.htm On a positive note, we saw some obits process that had been stuck a long time, sync looks cleaner than ever, and maximum ring deltas are back in the reasonable range on all our partitions. The new iMonitor reports are sweet too. Cheers, Debbie _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://netlab1.usu.edu/pipermail/novell/attachments/20021223/a28e04dd/attachment.html From jserrone at uhs.edu Mon Dec 23 16:30:18 2002 From: jserrone at uhs.edu (Joe Serrone) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 10:30:18 -0600 Subject: Rconsole on WIN2k Message-ID: We are running Netware 5.1 (SP3) on several servers and until recently I have been able to run Rconosle from a DOS prompt on my WIN2k PC without any issues. We have just upgrade to client 4.83 SP1 and now when Rconsole is launched, the list of servers is blank. If you refresh it several times, the servers show up. Is there a switch or fix for this? Joe Serrone Systems Manager University of Health Sciences 1750 Independence Avenue Kansas City, MO 64106-1453 Phone: 816.283.2472 Fax: 816.283.0692 E-mail: jserrone at uhs.edu From dtran at ssc.ucla.edu Mon Dec 23 16:38:00 2002 From: dtran at ssc.ucla.edu (Daniel Tran) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 08:38:00 -0800 Subject: Rconsole on WIN2k In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001001c2aaa1$a81dff70$49e56180@hp1> I don't know Joe. I've stopped using rconsole for a while now and have switched to Freeconsole from Adremsoft. It's free. Works fine with nw4,5,6. I believe it's www.adremsoft.com Daniel - dtran at ssc.ucla.edu > -----Original Message----- > From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu > [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Joe Serrone > Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 8:30 AM > To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu > Subject: Rconsole on WIN2k > > > We are running Netware 5.1 (SP3) on several servers and until > recently I have been able to run Rconosle from a DOS prompt > on my WIN2k PC without any issues. > > We have just upgrade to client 4.83 SP1 and now when Rconsole > is launched, the list of servers is blank. If you refresh it > several times, the servers show up. Is there a switch or fix for this? > > Joe Serrone > Systems Manager > University of Health Sciences > 1750 Independence Avenue > Kansas City, MO 64106-1453 > Phone: 816.283.2472 > Fax: 816.283.0692 > E-mail: jserrone at uhs.edu > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > From JRD at cc.usu.edu Mon Dec 23 16:39:05 2002 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 09:39:05 -0700 (MST) Subject: Rconsole on WIN2k Message-ID: <01KQD7T6WKKY91Y12P@cc.usu.edu> > >We are running Netware 5.1 (SP3) on several servers and until recently I >have been able to run Rconosle from a DOS prompt on my WIN2k PC without >any issues. > >We have just upgrade to client 4.83 SP1 and now when Rconsole is >launched, the list of servers is blank. If you refresh it several times, >the servers show up. Is there a switch or fix for this? > >Joe Serrone >Systems Manager >University of Health Sciences >1750 Independence Avenue >Kansas City, MO 64106-1453 >Phone: 816.283.2472 >Fax: 816.283.0692 >E-mail: jserrone at uhs.edu ---------- As we all recall, Rconsole works over IPX. Thus places to look for comms trouble are Client32 settings and the network settings for the client. Rconsole works fine here on Win XP/Pro with the very latest C32 material, and has with earlier material. Joe D. From G.Ross at ccw.gov.uk Mon Dec 23 16:48:18 2002 From: G.Ross at ccw.gov.uk (Gordon Ross) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 16:48:18 +0000 Subject: Rconsole on WIN2k Message-ID: Yeah, you get this if you are running compatibility mode on your workstation. Run real IPX and things are back to normal. GTG >>> jserrone at uhs.edu 23/12/2002 16:30:18 >>> We are running Netware 5.1 (SP3) on several servers and until recently I have been able to run Rconosle from a DOS prompt on my WIN2k PC without any issues. We have just upgrade to client 4.83 SP1 and now when Rconsole is launched, the list of servers is blank. If you refresh it several times, the servers show up. Is there a switch or fix for this? From tim at nds8.com Mon Dec 23 16:51:16 2002 From: tim at nds8.com (Tim Heywood) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 16:51:16 +0000 Subject: Rconsole on WIN2k Message-ID: When you installed the new client you will have been offered the oppertunity to get rid of IPX, if you accepted that offer, RCONSOLE which is SPX dependant will refuse to work. I like, and use Adrem's free console. If you are not a) logged inand b) a console opperator you cannot connect to a server :-) It worls over IPX or IP so problems are solved. Take a look at www.adremsoft.com Tim ************************* Tim Heywood Scotland (God's Country) Novell Support Connection SYSOP ************************* In theory, practice and theory are the same, In practice they are different! >>> jserrone at uhs.edu 23/12/2002 16:30:18 >>> From: jserrone at uhs.edu Sent: Monday, 23 December, 2002 16:30 To: Subject: Rconsole on WIN2k Priority: Normal We are running Netware 5.1 (SP3) on several servers and until recently I have been able to run Rconosle from a DOS prompt on my WIN2k PC without any issues. We have just upgrade to client 4.83 SP1 and now when Rconsole is launched, the list of servers is blank. If you refresh it several times, the servers show up. Is there a switch or fix for this? Joe Serrone Systems Manager University of Health Sciences 1750 Independence Avenue Kansas City, MO 64106-1453 Phone: 816.283.2472 Fax: 816.283.0692 E-mail: jserrone at uhs.edu _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From John at coastal.edu Mon Dec 23 16:53:32 2002 From: John at coastal.edu (John Hanna) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 11:53:32 -0500 Subject: Rconsole on WIN2k In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Try hard setting your frame type in the ipx/spx compatible protocol and ipx-32bit protocol properties. I have seen where the auto setting on some NICS and Nets display this type of behavior with rconsole. You may also want to hard set your Speed and duplex. >-----Original Message----- >From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu >[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu]On Behalf Of Joe Serrone >Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 11:30 AM >To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu >Subject: Rconsole on WIN2k > > >We are running Netware 5.1 (SP3) on several servers and until recently I >have been able to run Rconosle from a DOS prompt on my WIN2k PC without >any issues. > >We have just upgrade to client 4.83 SP1 and now when Rconsole is >launched, the list of servers is blank. If you refresh it several times, >the servers show up. Is there a switch or fix for this? > >Joe Serrone >Systems Manager >University of Health Sciences >1750 Independence Avenue >Kansas City, MO 64106-1453 >Phone: 816.283.2472 >Fax: 816.283.0692 >E-mail: jserrone at uhs.edu >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > From carter at ipfw.edu Mon Dec 23 17:20:58 2002 From: carter at ipfw.edu (Jean-Paul Carter) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 12:20:58 -0500 Subject: Rconsole on WIN2k Message-ID: We tried the free console from adrem, that afternoon, we upgraded to the full version and have not used anything else since. It is secure (128 bit encryption) has gradient security to allow some people access to some screens and not others and the new version introduces a web interface to get to the server via a browser. It is well worth the money. John Carter Senior Network Systems Programmer ITServices Indiana Purdue University Ft. Wayne 2101 Coliseum Blvd Ft. Wayne IN 46805 260 481-5473 260 481-4152 fax carter at ipfw.edu >>> tim at nds8.com 12/23/02 11:51AM >>> When you installed the new client you will have been offered the oppertunity to get rid of IPX, if you accepted that offer, RCONSOLE which is SPX dependant will refuse to work. I like, and use Adrem's free console. If you are not a) logged inand b) a console opperator you cannot connect to a server :-) It worls over IPX or IP so problems are solved. Take a look at www.adremsoft.com Tim ************************* Tim Heywood Scotland (God's Country) Novell Support Connection SYSOP ************************* In theory, practice and theory are the same, In practice they are different! >>> jserrone at uhs.edu 23/12/2002 16:30:18 >>> From: jserrone at uhs.edu Sent: Monday, 23 December, 2002 16:30 To: Subject: Rconsole on WIN2k Priority: Normal We are running Netware 5.1 (SP3) on several servers and until recently I have been able to run Rconosle from a DOS prompt on my WIN2k PC without any issues. We have just upgrade to client 4.83 SP1 and now when Rconsole is launched, the list of servers is blank. If you refresh it several times, the servers show up. Is there a switch or fix for this? Joe Serrone Systems Manager University of Health Sciences 1750 Independence Avenue Kansas City, MO 64106-1453 Phone: 816.283.2472 Fax: 816.283.0692 E-mail: jserrone at uhs.edu _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From cparker at utah.gov Mon Dec 23 20:49:59 2002 From: cparker at utah.gov (Curtis Parker) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 13:49:59 -0700 Subject: a note on vacation rules Message-ID: After reading the 12/23/02 list digest, I can see a need for some tips on email vacation rules. My GroupWise guru showed me a great way to configure a vacation rule that won't reply to lists and such. My basic premise is that I only want to send the vacation replies to business colleagues. For me, 90% of those are in my GroupWise system. When other employees in my GW system send to me they address the message to "Curtis Parker", not "cparker at utah.gov". My rule condition says, "Act on items where To contains 'curtis parker'. (The action, of course, is to reply with text saying when I'll be back.) The key is to define the rule conditions based on text in the "To:" field rather than to just respond to any incoming items. Only users in my own GW system put my full name in the To: field, so this restricts my vacation reply to colleagues who actually typed a message to me. It doesn't reply to anything from the Internet nor any SPAM or list emails. It will also skip CC: messages but hey, it's just a vacation rule. It's no big deal. I could put an "Or" on the condition to include messages with my Internet address in the To field and this would still exclude most SPAM and list servers which usually place my address in the BC: field. Any other vacation rule tips out there? Is there an equivalent technique in Outlook? Curtis Parker State of Utah, Information Technology Services cparker at utah.gov 801-538-3551 From CBeeman at airbornenacelle.com Mon Dec 23 21:00:33 2002 From: CBeeman at airbornenacelle.com (Charlie Beeman) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 15:00:33 -0600 Subject: a note on vacation rules Message-ID: hmmm. From CBeeman at airbornenacelle.com Mon Dec 23 21:02:55 2002 From: CBeeman at airbornenacelle.com (Charlie Beeman) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 15:02:55 -0600 Subject: Zenworks 4 Imaging Message-ID: Sorry about that last message. Now on to more important things. I have a Netware 6 server with Zenworks 4 installed on it. We have imaging setup just about the way we like it. We've one into one major speedbump though. Is there ANY way to include the linux partition (the zenworks imaging partition) when creating the image on the server? Any help is VERY much appreciated. Thanks in advance, -Charlie Beeman From JRD at cc.usu.edu Mon Dec 23 21:16:20 2002 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 14:16:20 -0700 (MST) Subject: a note on vacation rules Message-ID: <01KQDH6SPHEA91Y2A2@cc.usu.edu> Indeed, much appreciated. There is another common rule, which is to select the Precedence: tag in the headers and do not send vacation msgs to items having list or bulk as the precedence. That will take care of most listservers. Ours uses Precedence: list, Novell's Netmail uses Precedence: bulk. Better yet, don't use vacation stuff at all, but opinons vary. To control incoming list traffic visit http://netlab1.usu.edu/ and go to your list options material, or use email command set delivery off sent to novell-request at netlab1.usu.edu. The archives will be there waiting for you to return. 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' (no brackets around the email address, and no quotes!) Examples: who fiddlecat who fiddlecat myself at fast.box.org From jfast at dsd.tas.gov.au Mon Dec 23 22:42:17 2002 From: jfast at dsd.tas.gov.au (jfast at dsd.tas.gov.au) Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 09:42:17 +1100 Subject: DirXML 1.1a & Password Sync ? Message-ID: Hi everyone, I have a problem of some sort with DirXML 1.1a in a Tree with 2 NW 6, eDir 8.7, Zen 4 Servers & currently 1 W2K AD Server with eDir 8.7 & Zen 4 installed. I have installed DirXML 1.1a only on the 2000 Server. I initially had the DirXML components in the container specific to where the 2000 server was then modified it based upon the Zen Lab Guides from Reverend Ted at Cool Solutions. I have included an ascii diagram of my setup below which may help. My problem is that setting up either via C1 or using the documentation and using iManager 1.5, I cannot get any data to sync between eDir & AD, the DirXML logs in iManager are showing nothing in regards to errors, only starting and stopping the driver. I manually selected sync with nothing occurring either. The polling interval I setup for the addriver.xml driver is 1 minute. I have set the dstrace options for dirxml & drivers with no errors showing up. If anyone has any ideas on what I have overlooked, I have read the doco attempting to determine what I missed, I didn't setup the authentication as the Dirxml engine is running on the server with AD & eDir which is logged in as the local administrator. The associations which the admin guide talks about in the synchronizing data section doesn't have any associations. [Root] | O | OU | ADForest | DirXML DriverSet | AD Driver | Subscriber Publisher Domain Object Passwd Sync Object | OU(Geographic Location) | OU(Central Site) | OU(Geographic Location) | OU(Satellite Site)(Previously had the ADForest objects) | 2000 AD Server(DirXML & Passwd Sync) | OU(Users) Any tips/assistance/comments welcomed, John From zzz at mctc.mnscu.edu Tue Dec 24 04:29:36 2002 From: zzz at mctc.mnscu.edu (zzz) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 22:29:36 -0600 Subject: windows2000 and Novell client slowness Message-ID: Please be more specific with your problem. Is everything slow? Mary has a checklist. What "operation" is taking 15 minutes? The MS registry hack Mary referenced that I have posted many times does not resolve a 15 minute latency, just slow browsing issues when accessing network drives. Thanks Dana >>> ian at fastnet.bc.ca 12/22/02 01:10PM >>> Hi, We recently upgraded our clients from win98 to windows 2000. We have the novell client installed in 50 or so machines, we run lots of network intensive applications, and we also use Zen. Problem is the Novel client is very slow compared with client services for netware, how can we get the novell client anywhere near the speed of client services for netware? an example is a report that rins in 20 seconds on client services for netware takes 15 mins on the novell client. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From Deo.Rampersad at ipsos-reid.com Tue Dec 24 04:30:18 2002 From: Deo.Rampersad at ipsos-reid.com (Deo Rampersad) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 22:30:18 -0600 Subject: windows2000 and Novell client slowness (I will be out of the office April 25th and 26th, for support please contact Shawn Wallace or our Hel) Message-ID: I will be out of the office December 19th to December 29th, for support please contact Shawn Wallace or our Help Desk. Thanks Deo Shawn Wallace 416-324-2900 Help Desk 1-877-435-7147 >>> novell 12/23/02 23:29 >>> Please be more specific with your problem. Is everything slow? Mary has a checklist. What "operation" is taking 15 minutes? The MS registry hack Mary referenced that I have posted many times does not resolve a 15 minute latency, just slow browsing issues when accessing network drives. Thanks Dana >>> ian at fastnet.bc.ca 12/22/02 01:10PM >>> Hi, We recently upgraded our clients from win98 to windows 2000. We have the novell client installed in 50 or so machines, we run lots of network intensive applications, and we also use Zen. Problem is the Novel client is very slow compared with client services for netware, how can we get the novell client anywhere near the speed of client services for netware? an example is a report that rins in 20 seconds on client services for netware takes 15 mins on the novell client. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From Cfrench3 at ll.mit.edu Tue Dec 24 12:27:55 2002 From: Cfrench3 at ll.mit.edu (Claude A. French III) Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 07:27:55 -0500 Subject: FTP Services on NW6 Message-ID: <3E0852CB.5010605@ll.mit.edu> Good morning, I have a NW 6.0 SP2 box which needs to have FTP services installed. When I consult the NW6 manual it only references a in-place upgrade of a 5.1 bow with FTP services all ready installed. Are there native FTP services for NW6? If not, how can I get this to work? Any third party recommendations? Thanks, Claude -- ========================================================================== ========================================================================== Claude A. 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Buechner ========================================================================== Vincit Qui Patitur ========================================================================== ========================================================================== From weaver at arches.uga.edu Tue Dec 24 14:08:01 2002 From: weaver at arches.uga.edu (Michael Weaver) Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 09:08:01 -0500 Subject: FTP Services on NW6 In-Reply-To: <3E0852CB.5010605@ll.mit.edu> References: <3E0852CB.5010605@ll.mit.edu> Message-ID: <3891250.1040720881@hermes.ucns.uga.edu> --On Tuesday, December 24, 2002 7:27 AM -0500 "Claude A. French III" wrote: > Good morning, > > I have a NW 6.0 SP2 box which needs to have FTP services installed. When > I consult the NW6 manual it only references a in-place upgrade of a 5.1 > bow with FTP services all ready installed. > > Are there native FTP services for NW6? If not, how can I get this to > work? Any third party recommendations? Yes, NW6 has a native FTP server, nwftpd. To install it, mount your NW6 install media and run the installer from the GUI. You will see an option for FTP Server. You might double check to see if you already have it. Take care, Mike -- Michael Weaver (706)542-6462 weaver at arches.uga.edu Engineering Services EITS University of Georgia, Athens Ga. )O( Public PGP key: http://www.arches.uga.edu/~weaver/pgp.html From CBeeman at airbornenacelle.com Tue Dec 24 14:32:50 2002 From: CBeeman at airbornenacelle.com (Charlie Beeman) Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 08:32:50 -0600 Subject: novell imaging Message-ID: I don't think that I seem to be communicating what i want to do very well... Let me try once more. Using Zenworks Imaging we have created the exact images that we want to use on our systems (syspreped win2k and winXP) What i'm curious about is how to get the zenworks partition to all of the machines (seeing as i cant find a way to have zenworks image the imaging partition). Any insight on how to deploy the imaging partition to all of the machines is very welcome. Also, i would be interested to hear of any of your imaging solutions that you all are using, i'm always open to new ideas! Thanks alot, -Charlie Beeman From cirvis at konts.lv Tue Dec 24 15:16:13 2002 From: cirvis at konts.lv (Gatis Visnevskis) Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 17:16:13 +0200 Subject: DirXML 1.1a & Password Sync ? References: Message-ID: <3E087A3D.7080203@konts.lv> My success was in setting permissions in regedt32. HK_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\SAM to allow read/write to NT_DOMAIN user. try to enable debug messages: Control Panel -> NDS -> NDS Trace -> start Gasha jfast at dsd.tas.gov.au wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I have a problem of some sort with DirXML 1.1a in a Tree with 2 NW 6, eDir > 8.7, Zen 4 Servers & currently 1 W2K AD Server with eDir 8.7 & Zen 4 > installed. I have installed DirXML 1.1a only on the 2000 Server. I > initially had the DirXML components in the container specific to where the > 2000 server was then modified it based upon the Zen Lab Guides from > Reverend Ted at Cool Solutions. I have included an ascii diagram of my > setup below which may help. > > My problem is that setting up either via C1 or using the documentation and > using iManager 1.5, I cannot get any data to sync between eDir & AD, the > DirXML logs in iManager are showing nothing in regards to errors, only > starting and stopping the driver. I manually selected sync with nothing > occurring either. The polling interval I setup for the addriver.xml driver > is 1 minute. I have set the dstrace options for dirxml & drivers with no > errors showing up. > > If anyone has any ideas on what I have overlooked, I have read the doco > attempting to determine what I missed, I didn't setup the authentication as > the Dirxml engine is running on the server with AD & eDir which is logged > in as the local administrator. The associations which the admin guide > talks about in the synchronizing data section doesn't have any > associations. > > [Root] > | > O > | > OU > | > ADForest > | > DirXML DriverSet > | > AD Driver > | > Subscriber > Publisher > Domain Object > Passwd Sync Object > | > OU(Geographic Location) > | > OU(Central Site) > | > OU(Geographic Location) > | > OU(Satellite Site)(Previously had the ADForest objects) > | > 2000 AD Server(DirXML & Passwd Sync) > | > OU(Users) > > Any tips/assistance/comments welcomed, > > > > John > > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > From cirvis at konts.lv Tue Dec 24 15:19:46 2002 From: cirvis at konts.lv (Gatis Visnevskis) Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 17:19:46 +0200 Subject: DirXML 1.1a & Password Sync ? References: <3E087A3D.7080203@konts.lv> Message-ID: <3E087B12.707@konts.lv> But this is related only to DirXML 1.1a for NT DOMAIN. I have not tried Password Sync for Windows. Just because i need to sync LDAP server too... Gasha Gatis Visnevskis wrote: > My success was in setting permissions in regedt32. > > HK_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\SAM > > to allow read/write to NT_DOMAIN user. > > try to enable debug messages: Control Panel -> NDS -> NDS Trace -> start > > Gasha > > jfast at dsd.tas.gov.au wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> I have a problem of some sort with DirXML 1.1a in a Tree with 2 NW 6, >> eDir >> 8.7, Zen 4 Servers & currently 1 W2K AD Server with eDir 8.7 & Zen 4 >> installed. I have installed DirXML 1.1a only on the 2000 Server. I >> initially had the DirXML components in the container specific to where >> the >> 2000 server was then modified it based upon the Zen Lab Guides from >> Reverend Ted at Cool Solutions. I have included an ascii diagram of my >> setup below which may help. >> >> My problem is that setting up either via C1 or using the documentation >> and >> using iManager 1.5, I cannot get any data to sync between eDir & AD, the >> DirXML logs in iManager are showing nothing in regards to errors, only >> starting and stopping the driver. I manually selected sync with nothing >> occurring either. The polling interval I setup for the addriver.xml >> driver >> is 1 minute. I have set the dstrace options for dirxml & drivers with no >> errors showing up. >> >> If anyone has any ideas on what I have overlooked, I have read the doco >> attempting to determine what I missed, I didn't setup the >> authentication as >> the Dirxml engine is running on the server with AD & eDir which is logged >> in as the local administrator. The associations which the admin guide >> talks about in the synchronizing data section doesn't have any >> associations. >> >> [Root] >> | >> O >> | >> OU >> | >> ADForest >> | >> DirXML DriverSet >> | >> AD Driver >> | >> Subscriber >> Publisher >> Domain Object >> Passwd Sync Object >> | >> OU(Geographic Location) >> | >> OU(Central Site) >> | >> OU(Geographic Location) >> | >> OU(Satellite Site)(Previously had the ADForest objects) >> | >> 2000 AD Server(DirXML & Passwd Sync) >> | >> OU(Users) >> >> Any tips/assistance/comments welcomed, >> >> >> >> John >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Novell mailing list >> Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >> http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >> http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From ducharme at escape.ca Tue Dec 24 19:25:05 2002 From: ducharme at escape.ca (Michael Ducharme) Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 13:25:05 -0600 Subject: novell imaging References: Message-ID: <000e01c2ab82$2a572e90$6401a8c0@michael> With ZFD4 you can use the PXE support instead. PXE allows the workstations to be automatically imaged without needing the imaging partition to be installed on them. For the service to work, the NICs in the desktop computers need to support PXE. For those that do not support PXE you would need to install the imaging partition. The imaging partition must be installed by booting off the imaging floppies or imaging CD and issuing the "install" command. Keep in mind that installing the imaging partition will most likely erase any other data already on the computer. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie Beeman" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 8:32 AM Subject: novell imaging > I don't think that I seem to be communicating what i want to do very well... > Let me try once more. > > Using Zenworks Imaging we have created the exact images that we want to use > on our systems (syspreped win2k and winXP) > What i'm curious about is how to get the zenworks partition to all of the > machines (seeing as i cant find a way to have zenworks image the imaging > partition). Any insight on how to deploy the imaging partition to all of the > machines is very welcome. > Also, i would be interested to hear of any of your imaging solutions that > you all are using, i'm always open to new ideas! > Thanks alot, > -Charlie Beeman > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From larry_burd at compuserve.com Tue Dec 24 19:35:08 2002 From: larry_burd at compuserve.com (Larry Burd) Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 14:35:08 -0500 Subject: arcserve 6.6 licenses Message-ID: <200212241435_MC3-1-2157-3F78@compuserve.com> anybody want to sell a arcserve 6.6 license for a novell server agent??? larryburd at mail.com From pod at asiaonline.net.nz Wed Dec 25 18:14:27 2002 From: pod at asiaonline.net.nz (Peter O'Driscoll) Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 07:14:27 +1300 (NZDT) Subject: Compaq Q57 driver problems with TCP/UDP. Message-ID: <1318.210.48.63.140.1040840067.squirrel@webmail.iconz.co.nz> Hi All A TID #10074067 has just appeared on the Compaq Q57 (& B57) Lan driver with NW6Sp2 and NW51SP5. There is a beta LAN driver (Version 2.37 Friday, November 22, 2002) which is a later version number than the official driver dated Dec 4th which does not fix the problem. Due to the Season we were unable to get the driver from Novell or from our Compaq friends before Christmas. Does anyone on the list have a copy of the Beta driver mentioned that they can send me? I would greatly appreciate it as we have a number of upgrades to do over the Holiday period. The Q57 is the embedded card on, at least, most new Compaq/HP Proliant Servers. All help gratefully received! Happy Christmas & New Year ( It is Dec 26th here in NZ ) pod at asiaonline.net.nz -- Peter O'Driscoll Wellington, NZ. From jsullivan at getthehatter.com Wed Dec 25 22:14:57 2002 From: jsullivan at getthehatter.com (Joe Sullivan) Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 16:14:57 -0600 Subject: Compaq Q57 driver problems with TCP/UDP. References: a65 Message-ID: <20021225T161457Z_424A00100000@getthehatter.com> Have you tried loading with the checksum=off? This should fix your problem from what the TID says. I cannot find the driver. You may also want to keep checking the Compaq web site as it looks as if this is a Compaq fix. NC77xx is the chipset used on the card. Joe >>> Peter O'Driscoll 12/25/2002 12:14:27 PM >>> Hi All A TID #10074067 has just appeared on the Compaq Q57 (& B57) Lan driver with NW6Sp2 and NW51SP5. There is a beta LAN driver (Version 2.37 Friday, November 22, 2002) which is a later version number than the official driver dated Dec 4th which does not fix the problem. Due to the Season we were unable to get the driver from Novell or from our Compaq friends before Christmas. Does anyone on the list have a copy of the Beta driver mentioned that they can send me? I would greatly appreciate it as we have a number of upgrades to do over the Holiday period. The Q57 is the embedded card on, at least, most new Compaq/HP Proliant Servers. All help gratefully received! Happy Christmas & New Year ( It is Dec 26th here in NZ ) pod at asiaonline.net.nz -- Peter O'Driscoll Wellington, NZ. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com Thu Dec 26 04:42:19 2002 From: Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com (Peter Van Lone) Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 22:42:19 -0600 Subject: Compaq Q57 driver problems with TCP/UDP. Message-ID: I had the same problem and checksum=off did not fix it(though it SEEMED maybe a little better). Nor did any of the recent ip stacks. I could not find the beta driver referenced in the tid. In fact the only q57 drivers I could find at all were from sp1 or sp2 or sp4 or 5 for 5.1. I checked compaq's web site and the most recent sdd had the same version I was using. Symptoms were many errors in LAN/WAN stats re: crc and frame alignment errors on receive. Copy of data to the server was very slow. Cisco switch saw the port as having many errors as well -- checksum and align and collisions. I put a standard Intel 10/100 nic in -- VOILA! No problem. I plan to call Compaq Friday to see if they have any newer and/or beta drivers ... -----Original Message----- From: Joe Sullivan [mailto:jsullivan at getthehatter.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2002 4:15 PM To: Novell LAN Interest Group; pod at asiaonline.net.nz Subject: Re: Compaq Q57 driver problems with TCP/UDP. Have you tried loading with the checksum=off? This should fix your problem from what the TID says. I cannot find the driver. You may also want to keep checking the Compaq web site as it looks as if this is a Compaq fix. NC77xx is the chipset used on the card. Joe >>> Peter O'Driscoll 12/25/2002 12:14:27 PM >>> Hi All A TID #10074067 has just appeared on the Compaq Q57 (& B57) Lan driver with NW6Sp2 and NW51SP5. There is a beta LAN driver (Version 2.37 Friday, November 22, 2002) which is a later version number than the official driver dated Dec 4th which does not fix the problem. Due to the Season we were unable to get the driver from Novell or from our Compaq friends before Christmas. Does anyone on the list have a copy of the Beta driver mentioned that they can send me? I would greatly appreciate it as we have a number of upgrades to do over the Holiday period. The Q57 is the embedded card on, at least, most new Compaq/HP Proliant Servers. All help gratefully received! Happy Christmas & New Year ( It is Dec 26th here in NZ ) pod at asiaonline.net.nz -- Peter O'Driscoll Wellington, NZ. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From ian at fastnet.bc.ca Thu Dec 26 05:51:06 2002 From: ian at fastnet.bc.ca (Ian Dobson) Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 21:51:06 -0800 Subject: windows2000 and Novell client slowness References: Message-ID: <001401c2aca2$c8190ec0$0b01a8c0@xp01> Well the main application we notice it in is Accpac Plus (Dos App) its very network intensive. We also notice it on other programs but not to the same extent, but still noticable. ----- Original Message ----- From: "zzz" To: ; Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 8:29 PM Subject: Re: windows2000 and Novell client slowness > Please be more specific with your problem. > > Is everything slow? > > Mary has a checklist. > > What "operation" is taking 15 minutes? > > The MS registry hack Mary referenced that I have posted many times does > not resolve a 15 minute latency, just slow browsing issues when > accessing network drives. > > Thanks > > Dana > > > >>> ian at fastnet.bc.ca 12/22/02 01:10PM >>> > Hi, We recently upgraded our clients from win98 to windows 2000. We > have the > novell client installed in 50 or so machines, we run lots of network > intensive applications, and we also use Zen. > > Problem is the Novel client is very slow compared with client services > for > netware, how can we get the novell client anywhere near the speed of > client > services for netware? > > an example is a report that rins in 20 seconds on client services for > netware takes 15 mins on the novell client. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > > From bud at moldriteplastics.com Thu Dec 26 13:25:03 2002 From: bud at moldriteplastics.com (Bud Durland) Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 08:25:03 -0500 Subject: windows2000 and Novell client slowness References: <001401c2aca2$c8190ec0$0b01a8c0@xp01> Message-ID: <3E0B032F.3050202@moldriteplastics.com> Ian Dobson wrote: >Well the main application we notice it in is Accpac Plus (Dos App) >its very network intensive. We also notice it on other programs but not to >the same extent, but still noticable. > We still use Macola/DOS here. Some things we've found that improved the speed of the app, though you've probably already tried most of them: * disable client file caching at the server, and in the client settings (advanced settings/file caching) * in the config.nt file, set at least FILES=150 * Allow for plenty of file/record locks at the server * install the client using only one protocol. We use IP here, though IPX should work just as well (I don't think you mentioned what version of NetWare). The important thing is only configure the client to use one of them, right from the start.. * lock network cards down for speed/duplexing * For some machines, whether you are running full-screen or windowed can also make a different in app performance. Check the setting of the shortcut for the app, and make sure the console settings are 80x25 -- by default Win2K makes them 80x300 HTH -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- My grandmother is 97 years old and still doesn't need glasses. She drinks right from the bottle. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Bud Durland, CNE Mold-Rite Plastics Network Administrator http://www.mrpcap.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- From admin at iaa.gov.il Thu Dec 26 14:06:34 2002 From: admin at iaa.gov.il (admin at iaa.gov.il) Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 16:06:34 +0200 Subject: Latest ZFD4 patch Message-ID: You might find this usefull, or not if you use ZFD4. http://support.novell.com/servlet/tidfinder/2964448 Enjoy Mike Glassman Head of System Security Computer & Information Systems Israeli Airports Authority Ben-Gurion Airport http://www.ben-gurion-airport.co.il Tel : 972-3-9710785 Fax : 972-3-9710939 Email : admin at iaa.gov.il Usage of this email address or any email address at iaa.gov.il for the purpose of sales pitches, SPAM or any other such unwanted garbage, is illegal, and any person, whether corporate or alone doing so, will be prosecuted to the fullest possible extent. From CBeeman at airbornenacelle.com Thu Dec 26 15:49:57 2002 From: CBeeman at airbornenacelle.com (Charlie Beeman) Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 09:49:57 -0600 Subject: novell imaging Message-ID: What other requirements are needed to use PXE services other than NICs that support it? -----Original Message----- From: Michael Ducharme [mailto:ducharme at escape.ca] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 1:25 PM To: Novell LAN Interest Group Subject: Re: novell imaging With ZFD4 you can use the PXE support instead. PXE allows the workstations to be automatically imaged without needing the imaging partition to be installed on them. For the service to work, the NICs in the desktop computers need to support PXE. For those that do not support PXE you would need to install the imaging partition. The imaging partition must be installed by booting off the imaging floppies or imaging CD and issuing the "install" command. Keep in mind that installing the imaging partition will most likely erase any other data already on the computer. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie Beeman" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 8:32 AM Subject: novell imaging > I don't think that I seem to be communicating what i want to do very well... > Let me try once more. > > Using Zenworks Imaging we have created the exact images that we want to use > on our systems (syspreped win2k and winXP) > What i'm curious about is how to get the zenworks partition to all of the > machines (seeing as i cant find a way to have zenworks image the imaging > partition). Any insight on how to deploy the imaging partition to all of the > machines is very welcome. > Also, i would be interested to hear of any of your imaging solutions that > you all are using, i'm always open to new ideas! > Thanks alot, > -Charlie Beeman > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From Jim.Mitchell at Strasburger.com Thu Dec 26 23:21:17 2002 From: Jim.Mitchell at Strasburger.com (Jim Mitchell) Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 17:21:17 -0600 Subject: FTP Services on NW6 Message-ID: >>> Michael Weaver 12/24/02 08:08AM >>> --On Tuesday, December 24, 2002 7:27 AM -0500 "Claude A. French III" wrote: > Good morning, > > I have a NW 6.0 SP2 box which needs to have FTP services installed. When > I consult the NW6 manual it only references a in-place upgrade of a 5.1 > bow with FTP services all ready installed. > > Are there native FTP services for NW6? If not, how can I get this to > work? Any third party recommendations? Yes, NW6 has a native FTP server, nwftpd. To install it, mount your NW6 install media and run the installer from the GUI. You will see an option for FTP Server. You might double check to see if you already have it. Take care, Mike Could this be a good reason for having the overlay CDs handy? I realize that with NW6 we should not be installing the server using the overlay CD, for the multitude of reasons that have been posted on this list, however consider the following: If I had a NW6 box, installed and manually updated to SP2 in the fashion recommended by the list, and I then wanted to go back and add some additional applications such as, but not restricted to, NWFTPD, could I use the overlay CD and install the (presumably) patched version of the application? Or should the app be installed from the original NW6 CD and the repatch the server? Or is this a dumb idea altogether? TIA, -j From JRD at cc.usu.edu Thu Dec 26 23:50:37 2002 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 16:50:37 -0700 (MST) Subject: FTP Services on NW6 Message-ID: <01KQHTNW20P491Y5S6@cc.usu.edu> > >Yes, NW6 has a native FTP server, nwftpd. To install it, mount your NW6 > >install media and run the installer from the GUI. You will see an >option >for FTP Server. You might double check to see if you already have it. > >Take care, >Mike > > > >Could this be a good reason for having the overlay CDs handy? > >I realize that with NW6 we should not be installing the server using >the overlay CD, for the multitude of reasons that have been posted on >this list, however consider the following: > >If I had a NW6 box, installed and manually updated to SP2 in the >fashion recommended by the list, and I then wanted to go back and add >some additional applications such as, but not restricted to, NWFTPD, >could I use the overlay CD and install the (presumably) patched version >of the application? Or should the app be installed from the original >NW6 CD and the repatch the server? Or is this a dumb idea altogether? ----------- It depends upon the shrewdness of your obserations, and raw courage. We know that today's Service Packs are nearly whole-product exports, so the shrewdness factor lets us guess that a later SP will have all the bits and pieces. Less courageous folks will go back to FCS, install, re-SP the machine. Today the first approach is normally viable, thanks to design by Novell. Naturally you will have backups so you can retreat as necessary. Joe D. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From zzz at mctc.mnscu.edu Fri Dec 27 00:33:45 2002 From: zzz at mctc.mnscu.edu (zzz) Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 18:33:45 -0600 Subject: windows2000 and Novell client slowness Message-ID: Thanks for the details. I don't support many DOS apps anymore, but Bud listed several tuning tips. In addition, have you looked at the CPU utilization on the workstation when the APP is running so slow? We have a legacy DOS app that runs very slow on some workstations, and in all cases, I see utilization pegged very high having to do with the NTVDM. Just a thought. Thanks Dana >>> ian at fastnet.bc.ca 12/25/02 11:51PM >>> Well the main application we notice it in is Accpac Plus (Dos App) its very network intensive. We also notice it on other programs but not to the same extent, but still noticable. ----- Original Message ----- From: "zzz" To: ; Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 8:29 PM Subject: Re: windows2000 and Novell client slowness > Please be more specific with your problem. > > Is everything slow? > > Mary has a checklist. > > What "operation" is taking 15 minutes? > > The MS registry hack Mary referenced that I have posted many times does > not resolve a 15 minute latency, just slow browsing issues when > accessing network drives. > > Thanks > > Dana > > > >>> ian at fastnet.bc.ca 12/22/02 01:10PM >>> > Hi, We recently upgraded our clients from win98 to windows 2000. We > have the > novell client installed in 50 or so machines, we run lots of network > intensive applications, and we also use Zen. > > Problem is the Novel client is very slow compared with client services > for > netware, how can we get the novell client anywhere near the speed of > client > services for netware? > > an example is a report that rins in 20 seconds on client services for > netware takes 15 mins on the novell client. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > > _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From JRD at cc.usu.edu Fri Dec 27 01:43:53 2002 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 18:43:53 -0700 (MST) Subject: windows2000 and Novell client slowness Message-ID: <01KQHXOIFIZ691Y62L@cc.usu.edu> >I don't support many DOS apps anymore, but Bud listed several tuning >tips. > >In addition, have you looked at the CPU utilization on the workstation >when the APP is running so slow? > >We have a legacy DOS app that runs very slow on some workstations, and >in all cases, I see utilization pegged very high having to do with the >NTVDM. > >Just a thought. > >Thanks > >Dana -------- NT based o/s' have a terrible time running DOS programs plus anything else at all. The scheduler leaves much to be desired. This maybe too obvious, but why not run DOS itself for those apps and get the performance the machine is capable of? NW clients are readily available, for example from netlab1.usu.edu, the misc\DOS-win.c32 directory holds a goodly collection of them. Joe D. >>> ian at fastnet.bc.ca 12/25/02 11:51PM >>> Well the main application we notice it in is Accpac Plus (Dos App) its very network intensive. We also notice it on other programs but not to the same extent, but still noticable. ----- Original Message ----- From: "zzz" To: ; Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 8:29 PM Subject: Re: windows2000 and Novell client slowness > Please be more specific with your problem. > > Is everything slow? > > Mary has a checklist. > > What "operation" is taking 15 minutes? > > The MS registry hack Mary referenced that I have posted many times does > not resolve a 15 minute latency, just slow browsing issues when > accessing network drives. > > Thanks > > Dana > > > >>> ian at fastnet.bc.ca 12/22/02 01:10PM >>> > Hi, We recently upgraded our clients from win98 to windows 2000. We > have the > novell client installed in 50 or so machines, we run lots of network > intensive applications, and we also use Zen. > > Problem is the Novel client is very slow compared with client services > for > netware, how can we get the novell client anywhere near the speed of > client > services for netware? > > an example is a report that rins in 20 seconds on client services for > netware takes 15 mins on the novell client. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > > _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From ian at fastnet.bc.ca Fri Dec 27 07:49:12 2002 From: ian at fastnet.bc.ca (Ian Dobson) Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 23:49:12 -0800 Subject: windows2000 and Novell client slowness In-Reply-To: <3E0B032F.3050202@moldriteplastics.com> Message-ID: <200212270742.gBR7ggH05478@spot.fastnet.bc.ca> Thanks for all the tips, tried all them and some others, still the same.:( I can't run DOS because these are machine that people actually use to do work other than accpac like email, spreadsheets, word processing etc. THe only common link to this equation is the novell client, without it the workstations fly in all applications, the workstations have lots of power and lots of ram, and if we didn't need zen then the novell client would be gone already, at least until we find a cure. > Ian Dobson wrote: > > >Well the main application we notice it in is Accpac Plus (Dos App) > >its very network intensive. We also notice it on other programs but not to > >the same extent, but still noticable. > > > > We still use Macola/DOS here. Some things we've found that improved the > speed of the app, though you've probably already tried most of them: > > * disable client file caching at the server, and in the client settings > (advanced settings/file caching) > > * in the config.nt file, set at least FILES=150 > > * Allow for plenty of file/record locks at the server > > * install the client using only one protocol. We use IP here, though > IPX should work just as well (I don't think you mentioned what version > of NetWare). The important thing is only configure the client to use > one of them, right from the start.. > > * lock network cards down for speed/duplexing > > * For some machines, whether you are running full-screen or windowed can > also make a different in app performance. Check the setting of the > shortcut for the app, and make sure the console settings are 80x25 -- by > default Win2K makes them 80x300 > > HTH > > > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > My grandmother is 97 years old and still doesn't need glasses. > She drinks right from the bottle. > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bud Durland, CNE Mold-Rite Plastics > Network Administrator http://www.mrpcap.com > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > Ian Dobson From mdlaat at muisnetwerken.nl Fri Dec 27 09:11:04 2002 From: mdlaat at muisnetwerken.nl (Maurice de Laat) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 10:11:04 +0100 Subject: windows2000 and Novell client slowness In-Reply-To: <200212270742.gBR7ggH05478@spot.fastnet.bc.ca>; from ian@fastnet.bc.ca on Thu, Dec 26, 2002 at 11:49:12PM -0800 References: <3E0B032F.3050202@moldriteplastics.com> <200212270742.gBR7ggH05478@spot.fastnet.bc.ca> Message-ID: <20021227101104.A6412@www.extern-systeembeheer.nl> On Thu, Dec 26, 2002 at 11:49:12PM -0800, Ian Dobson wrote: > THe only common link to this equation is the novell client, > without it the workstations fly in all applications, the workstations > have lots of power and lots of ram, and if we didn't need zen then > the novell client would be gone already, at least until we find a > cure. You don't need a cure for the novell client. You need a cure for microsoft implementation of things. That cure is fine tuning and has been discussed often here. P.e.: http://www.ithowto.com/novell/clientspeed.htm and http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/zenworks/features/tips/t_speed_nw_browsing_zw.html -- Maurice de Laat From Jim.Mitchell at Strasburger.com Fri Dec 27 15:30:59 2002 From: Jim.Mitchell at Strasburger.com (Jim Mitchell) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 09:30:59 -0600 Subject: windows2000 and Novell client slowness Message-ID: >>> ian at fastnet.bc.ca 12/27/02 01:49AM >>> Thanks for all the tips, tried all them and some others, still the same.:( I can't run DOS because these are machine that people actually use to do work other than accpac like email, spreadsheets, word processing etc. THe only common link to this equation is the novell client, without it the workstations fly in all applications, the workstations have lots of power and lots of ram, and if we didn't need zen then the novell client would be gone already, at least until we find a cure. > Ian Dobson wrote: > > >Well the main application we notice it in is Accpac Plus (Dos App) > >its very network intensive. We also notice it on other programs but not to > >the same extent, but still noticable. > > > > We still use Macola/DOS here. Some things we've found that improved the > speed of the app, though you've probably already tried most of them: > > * disable client file caching at the server, and in the client settings > (advanced settings/file caching) > > * in the config.nt file, set at least FILES=150 > > * Allow for plenty of file/record locks at the server > > * install the client using only one protocol. We use IP here, though > IPX should work just as well (I don't think you mentioned what version > of NetWare). The important thing is only configure the client to use > one of them, right from the start.. > > * lock network cards down for speed/duplexing > > * For some machines, whether you are running full-screen or windowed can > also make a different in app performance. Check the setting of the > shortcut for the app, and make sure the console settings are 80x25 -- by > default Win2K makes them 80x300 > > HTH If the only reason you are using the Novell client is for ZfD, upgrade to ZfDv4, and you can get rid of the Novell Client. From dreagan at commanche.swmed.edu Fri Dec 27 15:46:38 2002 From: dreagan at commanche.swmed.edu (David Reagan) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 09:46:38 -0600 Subject: novell imaging In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000601c2adbf$251a8910$68707081@cherokee> Certain issues with PXE arise with regards to segmented networks, DHCP, and the PXE helper address. Be sure and take a look at the docs related to those things, so that your PXE clients can get info on where they need to go to get to the image server. As far as the Linux partition goes, that is something created at the workstation when you do the initial config. The idea being you touch the system one time when it comes out of the box and do what you need to with it, and then it goes out onto the network never to be touched again, (hopefully). :) Some people hated the double boot of the Linux part looking for work, and PXE is a cleaner solution (in my opinion), so Novell went that direction as soon as they could... Hope this helps, David Reagan, Network Analyst, CNE UT Southwestern Medical Center dreagan at commanche.swmed.edu -----Original Message----- From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu]On Behalf Of Charlie Beeman Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 9:50 AM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: novell imaging What other requirements are needed to use PXE services other than NICs that support it? From Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com Fri Dec 27 15:56:28 2002 From: Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com (Peter Van Lone) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 09:56:28 -0600 Subject: Compaq Q57 driver problems with TCP/UDP. Message-ID: Interesting: TID 10074053 says regarding coms problems "If the Q57.LAN driver is loaded, update the 10/100/1000MBit LAN card with a NetFlex3" I'm not sure what this means -- are they saying simply use netflex3 driver against this NIC (ie, in inetcfg add a nic, tell the server it is a netflex3)? Still can't find a q57.lan beta driver. Does anyone know whether a b57.lan can be substituted safely? -----Original Message----- From: Joe Sullivan [mailto:jsullivan at getthehatter.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2002 4:15 PM To: Novell LAN Interest Group; pod at asiaonline.net.nz Subject: Re: Compaq Q57 driver problems with TCP/UDP. Have you tried loading with the checksum=off? This should fix your problem from what the TID says. I cannot find the driver. You may also want to keep checking the Compaq web site as it looks as if this is a Compaq fix. NC77xx is the chipset used on the card. Joe >>> Peter O'Driscoll 12/25/2002 12:14:27 PM >>> Hi All A TID #10074067 has just appeared on the Compaq Q57 (& B57) Lan driver with NW6Sp2 and NW51SP5. There is a beta LAN driver (Version 2.37 Friday, November 22, 2002) which is a later version number than the official driver dated Dec 4th which does not fix the problem. Due to the Season we were unable to get the driver from Novell or from our Compaq friends before Christmas. Does anyone on the list have a copy of the Beta driver mentioned that they can send me? I would greatly appreciate it as we have a number of upgrades to do over the Holiday period. The Q57 is the embedded card on, at least, most new Compaq/HP Proliant Servers. All help gratefully received! Happy Christmas & New Year ( It is Dec 26th here in NZ ) pod at asiaonline.net.nz -- Peter O'Driscoll Wellington, NZ. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From debbie_carraway at ncsu.edu Fri Dec 27 19:09:33 2002 From: debbie_carraway at ncsu.edu (DEBORAH CARRAWAY) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 14:09:33 -0500 Subject: edir 8.7 update notes Message-ID: Hi, Out of curiosity, did you have edir sp2a (ds 10350.07) applied to the 10 servers, or was it an earlier service pack (like edir sp2, ds 10330.03, or sp1, 10320.29) before the edir 8.7 upgrade? Thanks, Debbie >>> AHidalgo at salud.unm.edu 12/23/02 08:49 AM >>> I upgraded over 10 production servers and did not have any problems and have not seen any problems since. -a Al Hidalgo, MCNE Senior Analyst Information Systems University Hospitals ahidalgo at salud.unm.edu >>> debbie_carraway at ncsu.edu 12/22/02 6:42:04 PM >>> Hi all, We recently upgraded to eDirectory 8.7 (DS 10410.98) from eDirectory 8.6.2 sp 2a (DS 10350.07). The eDir 8.7 upgrade itself was also somewhat problematic. As a result, we put together a pre/post checklist at http://www.nag.ncsu.edu/nag/edir87 with our notes. There's already a field test release of eDir 8.7 available from Novell Tech Support that addresses some of the issues we saw, plus some doozies we didn't. It may be advisable to wait for the next patch release before upgrading. Upgrading from NetWare 5.1 to NetWare 6 after the eDirectory 8.7 install is rather painful. There's a how-to at: http://microsys.unity.ncsu.edu/it/systems/microsys/NW/ITD-nw51to6-upgrade.htm On a positive note, we saw some obits process that had been stuck a long time, sync looks cleaner than ever, and maximum ring deltas are back in the reasonable range on all our partitions. The new iMonitor reports are sweet too. Cheers, Debbie _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From CBeeman at airbornenacelle.com Fri Dec 27 19:21:53 2002 From: CBeeman at airbornenacelle.com (Charlie Beeman) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 13:21:53 -0600 Subject: novell imaging Message-ID: Well here we aren't dealing with segmented networks (not yet atleast) So far i've gotten a PXE disk working where a machine will send out a DHCP request, get an IP address and connect to the server (i presume that is what it is doing)... How do i controll what it does from this point on? How do i tell the machine that there is imaging to be done, which image to use, etc etc. I'm kind of foggy going to PXE from spending so much time using the linux partition and trying to get lilo setup just right (had it all good too, but the darn partition not being able to be imaged kind of made that approach un-appealing) Thanks for your help! -Beeman -----Original Message----- From: David Reagan [mailto:dreagan at commanche.swmed.edu] Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 9:47 AM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: novell imaging Certain issues with PXE arise with regards to segmented networks, DHCP, and the PXE helper address. Be sure and take a look at the docs related to those things, so that your PXE clients can get info on where they need to go to get to the image server. As far as the Linux partition goes, that is something created at the workstation when you do the initial config. The idea being you touch the system one time when it comes out of the box and do what you need to with it, and then it goes out onto the network never to be touched again, (hopefully). :) Some people hated the double boot of the Linux part looking for work, and PXE is a cleaner solution (in my opinion), so Novell went that direction as soon as they could... Hope this helps, David Reagan, Network Analyst, CNE UT Southwestern Medical Center dreagan at commanche.swmed.edu -----Original Message----- From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu]On Behalf Of Charlie Beeman Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 9:50 AM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: novell imaging What other requirements are needed to use PXE services other than NICs that support it? _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From ahidalgo at salud.unm.edu Fri Dec 27 20:27:24 2002 From: ahidalgo at salud.unm.edu (Al Hidalgo) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 13:27:24 -0700 Subject: edir 8.7 update notes Message-ID: They all were edir sp2a, NW6 w/sp2. -a >>> debbie_carraway at ncsu.edu 12/27/02 12:09:33 PM >>> Hi, Out of curiosity, did you have edir sp2a (ds 10350.07) applied to the 10 servers, or was it an earlier service pack (like edir sp2, ds 10330.03, or sp1, 10320.29) before the edir 8.7 upgrade? Thanks, Debbie >>> AHidalgo at salud.unm.edu 12/23/02 08:49 AM >>> I upgraded over 10 production servers and did not have any problems and have not seen any problems since. -a Al Hidalgo, MCNE Senior Analyst Information Systems University Hospitals ahidalgo at salud.unm.edu >>> debbie_carraway at ncsu.edu 12/22/02 6:42:04 PM >>> Hi all, We recently upgraded to eDirectory 8.7 (DS 10410.98) from eDirectory 8.6.2 sp 2a (DS 10350.07). The eDir 8.7 upgrade itself was also somewhat problematic. As a result, we put together a pre/post checklist at http://www.nag.ncsu.edu/nag/edir87 with our notes. There's already a field test release of eDir 8.7 available from Novell Tech Support that addresses some of the issues we saw, plus some doozies we didn't. It may be advisable to wait for the next patch release before upgrading. Upgrading from NetWare 5.1 to NetWare 6 after the eDirectory 8.7 install is rather painful. There's a how-to at: http://microsys.unity.ncsu.edu/it/systems/microsys/NW/ITD-nw51to6-upgrade.htm On a positive note, we saw some obits process that had been stuck a long time, sync looks cleaner than ever, and maximum ring deltas are back in the reasonable range on all our partitions. The new iMonitor reports are sweet too. Cheers, Debbie _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://netlab1.usu.edu/pipermail/novell/attachments/20021227/b85c7fbd/attachment.html From JRD at cc.usu.edu Fri Dec 27 20:42:21 2002 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 13:42:21 -0700 (MST) Subject: novell imaging Message-ID: <01KQJ1FCLLCI91Y5G1@cc.usu.edu> >Well here we aren't dealing with segmented networks (not yet atleast) So far >i've gotten a PXE disk working where a machine will send out a DHCP request, >get an IP address and connect to the server (i presume that is what it is >doing)... How do i controll what it does from this point on? How do i tell >the machine that there is imaging to be done, which image to use, etc etc. >I'm kind of foggy going to PXE from spending so much time using the linux >partition and trying to get lilo setup just right (had it all good too, but >the darn partition not being able to be imaged kind of made that approach >un-appealing) >Thanks for your help! >-Beeman --------- Perhaps this lengthy man page will give some insight. The key item to note is DHCP is doing what it originally was intended to do: supply a boot file in addition to IP values. Joe D. -------------- PXEBOOT(8) FreeBSD System Manager's Manual PXEBOOT(8) NAME pxeboot - Preboot Execution Environment (PXE) bootloader DESCRIPTION pxeboot is a modified version of the system third-stage bootstrap loader(8) configured to run under Intel's Preboot Execution Environment (PXE) system. PXE is a form of smart boot ROM, built into Intel EtherEx? press Pro/100 and 3Com 3c905c Ethernet cards, and Ethernet-equipped Intel motherboards. PXE supports DHCP configuration and provides low-level NIC access services. pxeboot retrieves the kernel, modules, and other files either via NFS over UDP or by TFTP, selectable through compile-time options. In combination with a memory filesystem image or NFS-mounted root filesystem, pxeboot allows for easy, EEPROM-burner free construction of diskless machines. The pxeboot binary is loaded just like any other boot file, by specifying it in the DHCP server's configuration file. Below is a sample configura? tion for the ISC DHCP v2 server: option domain-name "example.com"; option routers 10.0.0.1; option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0; option broadcast-address 10.0.0.255; option domain-name-servers 10.0.0.1; server-name "DHCPserver"; server-identifier 10.0.0.1; default-lease-time 120; max-lease-time 120; subnet 10.0.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { filename "pxeboot"; range 10.0.0.10 10.0.0.254; } pxeboot recognizes next-server and option root-path directives as the server and path to NFS mount for file requests, respectively, or the server to make TFTP requests to. Note that pxeboot expects to fetch /boot/loader.rc from the specified server before loading any other files. In all other respects, pxeboot acts just like loader(8). As PXE is still in its infancy, some firmware versions may not work prop? erly. pxeboot has been extensively tested on version 0.99 of Intel firmware; pre-release versions of the newer 2.0 firmware are known to have problems. Check with the device's manufacturer for their latest stable release. For further information on Intel's PXE specifications and Wired for Man? agement (WfM) systems, see http://developer.intel.com/ial/wfm/. SEE ALSO loader(8) HISTORY pxeboot first appeared in FreeBSD 4.1. AUTHORS pxeboot was written by John Baldwin and Paul Saab . This manual page was written by Doug White . FreeBSD 4.7 May 1, 2000 FreeBSD 4.7 From pod at asiaonline.net.nz Fri Dec 27 21:30:21 2002 From: pod at asiaonline.net.nz (Peter O'Driscoll) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 10:30:21 +1300 (NZDT) Subject: Compaq Q57 driver problems with TCP/UDP. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1129.210.48.63.150.1041024621.squirrel@webmail.iconz.co.nz> Hi Guys, First many thanks for the replies and the beta b57 driver. It cures our first problem - ir NFS not working (as does the checksum setting) but making the checksum setting stick will be a problem for the cliewnt so a permanent fix is required. We still have a major problem with the NIC as we are planning a lot of Cross-the-wire migrations to new hardware. On several different swithes we have difficulty maintaining duplex states with a resultant loss of speed which grinds the disk copies to unacceptably slow transfer rates. This is inconsistent. We'll take it back to the lab on Monday and try the Netflex3 as suggested. And try other nics.. I'll let you know how ewe get on. Peter (Peter Van Lone - I'll sent the driver to you) Peter Van Lone said: > > Interesting: TID 10074053 says regarding coms problems "If the Q57.LAN > driver is loaded, update the 10/100/1000MBit LAN card with a NetFlex3" > > I'm not sure what this means -- are they saying simply use netflex3 > driver against this NIC (ie, in inetcfg add a nic, tell the server it is > a netflex3)? > > Still can't find a q57.lan beta driver. Does anyone know whether a > b57.lan can be substituted safely? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Sullivan [mailto:jsullivan at getthehatter.com] > Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2002 4:15 PM > To: Novell LAN Interest Group; pod at asiaonline.net.nz > Subject: Re: Compaq Q57 driver problems with TCP/UDP. > > Have you tried loading with the checksum=off? This should fix your > problem from what the TID says. I cannot find the driver. You may also > want to keep checking the Compaq web site as it looks as if this is a > Compaq fix. NC77xx is the chipset used on the card. > > Joe > > >>>> Peter O'Driscoll 12/25/2002 12:14:27 PM >>> > > Hi All > > A TID #10074067 has just appeared on the Compaq Q57 (& B57) Lan driver > with NW6Sp2 and NW51SP5. There is a beta LAN driver (Version 2.37 > Friday, November 22, 2002) which is a later version number than the > official driver dated Dec 4th which does not fix the problem. > > Due to the Season we were unable to get the driver from Novell or from > our Compaq friends before Christmas. Does anyone on the list have a copy > of the Beta driver mentioned that they can send me? I would greatly > appreciate it as we have a number of upgrades to do over the Holiday > period. The Q57 is the embedded card on, at least, most new Compaq/HP > Proliant Servers. > > All help gratefully received! > Happy Christmas & New Year ( It is Dec 26th here in NZ ) > > pod at asiaonline.net.nz > > > -- > Peter O'Driscoll > Wellington, NZ. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo -- Peter O'Driscoll Wellington, NZ. From mlkollmorgan at comcast.net Mon Dec 30 15:04:24 2002 From: mlkollmorgan at comcast.net (Mike Kollmorgan) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 10:04:24 -0500 Subject: windows2000 and Novell client slowness In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <017001c2b014$be93ffc0$6d01a8c0@lcs.com> I don't know if this applies to you or not. I have discovered that if Windows 2000 has to delete a Read-Only file on the server it can take a very long time. Make sure none of the files that your program uses are flagged Read-Only. If I delete a large bunch of files I either use a Windows 98 workstation or manually flag all files Read-Write before hand. Mike Kollmorgan Logical Computer Solutions > -----Original Message----- > From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu [mailto:novell- > bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of zzz > Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 11:30 PM > To: ian at fastnet.bc.ca; novell at netlab1.usu.edu > Subject: Re: windows2000 and Novell client slowness > > Please be more specific with your problem. > > Is everything slow? > > Mary has a checklist. > > What "operation" is taking 15 minutes? > > The MS registry hack Mary referenced that I have posted many times does > not resolve a 15 minute latency, just slow browsing issues when > accessing network drives. > > Thanks > > Dana > > > >>> ian at fastnet.bc.ca 12/22/02 01:10PM >>> > Hi, We recently upgraded our clients from win98 to windows 2000. We > have the > novell client installed in 50 or so machines, we run lots of network > intensive applications, and we also use Zen. > > Problem is the Novel client is very slow compared with client services > for > netware, how can we get the novell client anywhere near the speed of > client > services for netware? > > an example is a report that rins in 20 seconds on client services for > netware takes 15 mins on the novell client. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From mlkollmorgan at comcast.net Mon Dec 30 15:13:26 2002 From: mlkollmorgan at comcast.net (Mike Kollmorgan) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 10:13:26 -0500 Subject: windows2000 and Novell client slowness In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <017101c2b016$00e175a0$6d01a8c0@lcs.com> You may also want to try running the app in a command.com window VS a cmd.exe window. I believe if you search your C: drive you will find a Windows 2000 compatible command.com. I made a batch file that I execute from a shortcut that runs "command.com appname" to spawn a new window using command.com. Don't forget to prefix command.com with the appropriate path. I have not tried this for your problem but it may help. I have an application that uses an '&' in a directory name. CMD.EXE will not support the '&' but COMMAND.COM will. Good Luck Mike Kollmorgan Logical Computer Solutions > -----Original Message----- > From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu [mailto:novell- > bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Jim Mitchell > Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 10:31 AM > To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu > Subject: Re: windows2000 and Novell client slowness > > >>> ian at fastnet.bc.ca 12/27/02 01:49AM >>> > Thanks for all the tips, tried all them and some others, still the > same.:( > > > I can't run DOS because these are machine that people actually use to > do work other than accpac like email, spreadsheets, word processing > etc. THe only common link to this equation is the novell client, > without it the workstations fly in all applications, the workstations > have lots of power and lots of ram, and if we didn't need zen then > the novell client would be gone already, at least until we find a > cure. > > > Ian Dobson wrote: > > > > >Well the main application we notice it in is Accpac Plus (Dos App) > > >its very network intensive. We also notice it on other programs but > not to > > >the same extent, but still noticable. > > > > > > > We still use Macola/DOS here. Some things we've found that improved > the > > speed of the app, though you've probably already tried most of them: > > > > * disable client file caching at the server, and in the client > settings > > (advanced settings/file caching) > > > > * in the config.nt file, set at least FILES=150 > > > > * Allow for plenty of file/record locks at the server > > > > * install the client using only one protocol. We use IP here, though > > > IPX should work just as well (I don't think you mentioned what > version > > of NetWare). The important thing is only configure the client to use > > > one of them, right from the start.. > > > > * lock network cards down for speed/duplexing > > > > * For some machines, whether you are running full-screen or windowed > can > > also make a different in app performance. Check the setting of the > > shortcut for the app, and make sure the console settings are 80x25 -- > by > > default Win2K makes them 80x300 > > > > HTH > > > > If the only reason you are using the Novell client is for ZfD, upgrade > to ZfDv4, and you can get rid of the Novell Client. > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo From Chad at Capitalcityfruit.com Mon Dec 30 15:30:56 2002 From: Chad at Capitalcityfruit.com (Chad Leeper) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 09:30:56 -0600 Subject: Maybe a clue... maybe Message-ID: Joe, What service pack where you installing and what was the name of the file? >>> JRD at cc.usu.edu 12/19/02 7:42:53 PM >>> I discovered something of possible use tonight. Installation of a service pack left me with a server which would not boot because it thought a file was bad or missing in c:\nwserver. The file was present, but of the old date rather than its proper replacement. The cause is the file, one of many as it turns out, is shipped with a lower case filename in the service pack. Such are not copied, leaving the previous file still there. Workarounds: copy such files by hand, if necessary using a floppy to c:\nwserver so the machine will start. Or use toolbox if the machine can get up that far. But nwconfig's product installation scripts fail. Joe D. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell http://netlab1.usu.edu/novell/listinfo ---------------------------------------------------------- [Confidentiality Notice] ---------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this transmission in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail or by telephone (515-981-5111) and>delete and destroy all copies of the material, including all copies stored in the recipient's computer, printed or saved to disk. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://netlab1.usu.edu/pipermail/novell/attachments/20021230/f4ff6b5e/attachment.html From JRD at cc.usu.edu Mon Dec 30 16:18:46 2002 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 09:18:46 -0700 (MST) Subject: Maybe a clue... maybe Message-ID: <01KQMYZUJUTE91Y9I7@cc.usu.edu> >Joe, > >What service pack where you installing and what was the name of the >file? > >>>> JRD at cc.usu.edu 12/19/02 7:42:53 PM >>> > I discovered something of possible use tonight. Installation of >a service pack left me with a server which would not boot because it >thought a file was bad or missing in c:\nwserver. The file was >present, >but of the old date rather than its proper replacement. > The cause is the file, one of many as it turns out, is shipped >with a lower case filename in the service pack. Such are not copied, >leaving the previous file still there. > Workarounds: copy such files by hand, if necessary using a >floppy to c:\nwserver so the machine will start. Or use toolbox if >the machine can get up that far. But nwconfig's product installation >scripts fail. > Joe D. ------------- Something you will see shortly, not that it matters. The problem is with the installation code which can't handle lower case filenames going to the DOS partition. Novell has just fixed the difficulty over this holiday period. But that won't fix things already in the field, so my advice remains useful. My currrent tactic is to use toolbox to copy sys:servicepack\startup files (/s to cover the nls subdir) to a directory on C:, and then at the DOS prompt before restarting the server I copy the files by hand to c:nwserver. We can use c:nwupdate for this to automate things, but I prefer the safety of the manual copy. Tested and approved in my particular field. Joe D. From mlkollmorgan at comcast.net Mon Dec 30 17:17:18 2002 From: mlkollmorgan at comcast.net (Mike Kollmorgan) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 12:17:18 -0500 Subject: Hard drive de-activation Message-ID: <019001c2b027$4eb58fd0$6d01a8c0@lcs.com> I am having a problem with hard drive deactivation every night with a new file server. The version of Novell is 5.1 SP5. The HD is Seagate 80 Gig Ultra ATAIV (IDE). It does not have any problems during the day. The drive is setup in the BIOS using LBA. I believe 5.1 will support LBA. Could the BIOS boot sector virus protection cause this kind of problem. Does Novell write to the boot sector at night in which case it would be prevented by the BIOS? Thanks Mike Kollmorgan Logical Computer Solutions From tim at nds8.com Mon Dec 30 20:58:41 2002 From: tim at nds8.com (Tim Heywood) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 20:58:41 +0000 Subject: Maybe a clue... maybe Message-ID: Joe, There was a note that I got saying that they had revved the CSP9 code so that it now installed properly. You name was in lights as the person who had found the problem. I believe if you do a fresh download, it should work without modification. Happy New Year Tim ************************* Tim Heywood Scotland (God's Country) Novell Support Connection SYSOP ************************* In theory, practice and theory are the same, In practice they are different! From JRD at cc.usu.edu Mon Dec 30 21:03:46 2002 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 14:03:46 -0700 (MST) Subject: Maybe a clue... maybe Message-ID: <01KQN909HIIQ91YAHH@cc.usu.edu> >Joe, > >There was a note that I got saying that they had revved the CSP9 code so >that it now installed properly. You name was in lights as the person >who had found the problem. I believe if you do a fresh download, it >should work without modification. > >Happy New Year > >Tim ---------- Guilty as charged. All the Consolidated Service Pack 9 beta testers were asked to download everything all over again, and that is not a small undertaking (not counting reinstallation time). Gee, I really meant well... Joe D. From barroj at tbh.net Tue Dec 31 15:11:40 2002 From: barroj at tbh.net (John Barro) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 10:11:40 -0500 Subject: NetWare Web Server - Won't Come Up Message-ID: Hi, I was wondering if anyone on the list can help. I have a NetWare 5.1 server with sp4 installed. I am trying to install NetWare web server, but it will not come up. I cannot get SSL to come up. In the AUTOEXEC.NCF file, i load httpstk.nlm with /SSL and /keyfile:"SSL CertificateIP". However, I receive the message: HTTPSTK: Error 10022 enabling SSL services - SSL Disabled HTTPSTK: Listening Thread() on 10.60.2.128:8009 Exiting after Error I set up "SSL CertificateIP" in Console One with a KMO, and I would like SSL services enabled. Any help would be appreciated. TIA, John