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------=_NextPart_410_778027583-- From wheyward at DCR.STATE.VA.US Mon Jul 1 14:31:15 2002 From: wheyward at DCR.STATE.VA.US (Wayne Heyward) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 09:31:15 -0400 Subject: abend log analysis Message-ID: I have been trying to submit an abend.log to abend.novell.com since Friday, and it persists on erring out after about a 2-3 minute wait. We have a server that is constantly rebooting itself and I want to know why. Anyone else having this problem? -=><=- From wheyward at DCR.STATE.VA.US Mon Jul 1 14:34:10 2002 From: wheyward at DCR.STATE.VA.US (Wayne Heyward) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 09:34:10 -0400 Subject: Server reboot problem Message-ID: Okay, I will... why? Is this a documented problem? And why would I get it on this one and not the other servers (same type, same configuration)? -=><=- >>> "Randal, Phil" 06/28/02 10:53AM >>> Did you backrev nwaspi.cdm to version 3.21? If not, do so. Phil --------------------------------------------- Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK > -----Original Message----- > From: Wayne Heyward [mailto:wheyward at DCR.STATE.VA.US] > Sent: 28 June 2002 15:30 > To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU > Subject: Server reboot problem > > > Here's the scenario: > Hardware: HP NetServer LH4 (3 years old) > Software: NetWare 5.1 SP4, NDS8 > Modules loaded: > McAfee Netshield; NDPS manager, broker, and HP gateway; Web > Manager (nvxadmup); Backup Exec; Powercute; the usual Netware > suspects (Vortex, sqlmon, timesync, etc) > > Recent activity: Last weekend, I upgraded all servers to SP4, > and then upgraded from NDS7 to NDS eDir 8.62 > > Problem: One of my servers, FP2, has rebooted three times in > the last 48 hours, and simply froze once. Server log shows > nothing wrong. It just reboots itself. No abend message or > anything. I'm ready to call HP in to look it over, but I > want to eliminate all possibilities of software issues first, > since they only cover the software. > > Is it coincidence that this started less than a week after > NDS was upgraded (this server is the master replica for the > tree and partition)? Of could there be a connection? Does > anyone know of software issues that can cause a server to > simply reboot itself? > > For now, I've unloaded McAfee (which I never fully trusted > anyway) and the Web Manager (which I never use anyway) to see > if that helps. > > -=><=- > > Wayne Heyward > Network Manager > Virginia Department of Conservation & Recreation > wheyward at dcr.state.va.us > From prandal at HEREFORDSHIRE.GOV.UK Mon Jul 1 14:52:42 2002 From: prandal at HEREFORDSHIRE.GOV.UK (Randal, Phil) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 09:52:42 -0400 Subject: Server reboot problem Message-ID: A memory leak which shows as nwpa.nlm taking more and more memory till the server eventually abends. Only applies oif you are actually loading and using nwaspi.cdm, of course. Alternatively, if you're using a recent build of Backup Exec, there will be the file becdm.cdm in sys:bkupexec\nlms. If so, do the following: comment out any loads of nwaspi.cdm from c:\nwserver\startup.ncf edit sys:system\bestart.ncf adding " -b" (without the quotes) to the end of the load bkupexec line reboot your server Cheers, Phil --------------------------------------------- Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK > -----Original Message----- > From: Wayne Heyward [mailto:wheyward at DCR.STATE.VA.US] > Sent: 01 July 2002 14:33 > To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU > Subject: Re: Server reboot problem > > > Okay, I will... why? Is this a documented problem? And why > would I get it on this one and not the other servers (same > type, same configuration)? > > -=><=- > > >>> "Randal, Phil" 06/28/02 10:53AM >>> > Did you backrev nwaspi.cdm to version 3.21? > > If not, do so. > > Phil > > --------------------------------------------- > Phil Randal > Network Engineer > Herefordshire Council > Hereford, UK > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Wayne Heyward [mailto:wheyward at DCR.STATE.VA.US] > > Sent: 28 June 2002 15:30 > > To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU > > Subject: Server reboot problem > > > > > > Here's the scenario: > > Hardware: HP NetServer LH4 (3 years old) > > Software: NetWare 5.1 SP4, NDS8 > > Modules loaded: > > McAfee Netshield; NDPS manager, broker, and HP gateway; Web > > Manager (nvxadmup); Backup Exec; Powercute; the usual Netware > > suspects (Vortex, sqlmon, timesync, etc) > > > > Recent activity: Last weekend, I upgraded all servers to SP4, > > and then upgraded from NDS7 to NDS eDir 8.62 > > > > Problem: One of my servers, FP2, has rebooted three times in > > the last 48 hours, and simply froze once. Server log shows > > nothing wrong. It just reboots itself. No abend message or > > anything. I'm ready to call HP in to look it over, but I > > want to eliminate all possibilities of software issues first, > > since they only cover the software. > > > > Is it coincidence that this started less than a week after > > NDS was upgraded (this server is the master replica for the > > tree and partition)? Of could there be a connection? Does > > anyone know of software issues that can cause a server to > > simply reboot itself? > > > > For now, I've unloaded McAfee (which I never fully trusted > > anyway) and the Web Manager (which I never use anyway) to see > > if that helps. > > > > -=><=- > > > > Wayne Heyward > > Network Manager > > Virginia Department of Conservation & Recreation > > wheyward at dcr.state.va.us > > > From JRD at CC.USU.EDU Mon Jul 1 15:07:20 2002 From: JRD at CC.USU.EDU (Joe Doupnik) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 10:07:20 -0400 Subject: Server reboot problem Message-ID: <01KJKNIULRSYADC3RJ@cc.usu.edu> >A memory leak which shows as nwpa.nlm taking more and more memory >till the server eventually abends. > >Only applies oif you are actually loading and using nwaspi.cdm, of >course. > >Alternatively, if you're using a recent build of Backup Exec, there >will be the file becdm.cdm in sys:bkupexec\nlms. > >If so, do the following: > >comment out any loads of nwaspi.cdm from c:\nwserver\startup.ncf >edit sys:system\bestart.ncf adding " -b" (without the quotes) > to the end of the load bkupexec line >reboot your server > >Cheers, > >Phil >--------------------------------------------- >Phil Randal >Network Engineer >Herefordshire Council >Hereford, UK ------- I have seen the same memory leak here with BackupExec v8.0 on NW 6. The matter has been reported to Novell and is under investigation. It is the reason I was asked to do that memory dump the other day. Joe D. From lsobilo at WHITINGCORP.COM Mon Jul 1 15:15:28 2002 From: lsobilo at WHITINGCORP.COM (Lawrence Sobilo) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 10:15:28 -0400 Subject: PERL 5.6.1 File Access Problem Message-ID: Thanks for the tip. We're reworking the scripts to include the explicit NDS login requirements. Larry >>> mailsub1 at RFISK.IS 06/29/2002 1:02:36 PM >>> At 11:40 27.6.2002 -0500, you wrote: >We recently installed the latest PERL 5.6.1 release for Netware. Now, none >of our scripts can open files. We checked rights, and opened all rights to >the directory for the organization. > from the perl 5.6.1 readme: 4.2 Security Features Security features are implemented in this release. This ensures that scripts can access only those resources for which an user has relevant rights. Refer to the documentation for the security features and limitations. Full security support is provided both through UCX components and also for file and directory operations of the Perl language like: open, opendir, readdir, sysopen, unlink, rename etc. Security features for the system function is yet to be implemented. How to turn off this new feature is provided in the documentation. Let me know if you can't find it. Mark. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://netlab1.usu.edu/pipermail/novell/attachments/20020701/a01134e4/attachment.html From cjf at CALFRYE.COM Mon Jul 1 15:52:03 2002 From: cjf at CALFRYE.COM (Cal Frye) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 10:52:03 -0400 Subject: HP firmware updating. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020701104720.01f61e48@imap.calfrye.com> At 06:44 AM 6/29/2002 -0400, you wrote: >I think it improbable that printing to a jet direct connected printer >during a firmware upgrade is the source of the failure. It is quite >likely to simply fail to print. > >Since the firmware is effectively disabled during the upgrade (or >*should* be) the print job should simply fail while the upgrade routines >have control of the device. > >This is not to discount the possibility of poor engineering of the jet >direct and/or the upgrade software. I have long considered HP to be a good HARDWARE manufacturer... This was the description of the problem BY HP TECH SUPPORT, and sounded consistent with our experiences. Doing them at night is the preferred procedure. We managed to bang two in quick succession, when we did an update, the user tried to print, the update and print job both hung. THen the software proceeded to update the next one in the list, and the SAME user moved to the next printer in HER list, and the scenario was repeated. Would have been funnier but these were two check printers, and there were some testy folks out there waiting for their money... --Cal Frye, Network Administrator, Oberlin College "The worst thing about censorship is [deleted by censorship department]." From lsobilo at WHITINGCORP.COM Mon Jul 1 16:31:59 2002 From: lsobilo at WHITINGCORP.COM (Lawrence Sobilo) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 11:31:59 -0400 Subject: PERL 5.6.1 File Access Problem Message-ID: In testing the script changes, the server took a hit. This has been happening frequently when invoking a PERL CGI script. Here's the CONLOG listing: The abend.log and conlog files are attached. Anything stand out? I think we've dowloaded latest versions of products, so I'm not sure what else might be behind this. Larry >>> mailsub1 at RFISK.IS 06/29/2002 1:02:36 PM >>> At 11:40 27.6.2002 -0500, you wrote: >We recently installed the latest PERL 5.6.1 release for Netware. Now, none >of our scripts can open files. We checked rights, and opened all rights to >the directory for the organization. > from the perl 5.6.1 readme: 4.2 Security Features Security features are implemented in this release. This ensures that scripts can access only those resources for which an user has relevant rights. Refer to the documentation for the security features and limitations. Full security support is provided both through UCX components and also for file and directory operations of the Perl language like: open, opendir, readdir, sysopen, unlink, rename etc. Security features for the system function is yet to be implemented. How to turn off this new feature is provided in the documentation. Let me know if you can't find it. Mark. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://netlab1.usu.edu/pipermail/novell/attachments/20020701/def3f123/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: abend.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 35188 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://netlab1.usu.edu/pipermail/novell/attachments/20020701/def3f123/attachment.obj -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: conlog.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 1336 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://netlab1.usu.edu/pipermail/novell/attachments/20020701/def3f123/attachment-0001.obj From MarkSmith at DATAIP.CO.UK Mon Jul 1 18:17:15 2002 From: MarkSmith at DATAIP.CO.UK (Mark Smith) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:17:15 -0400 Subject: Server reboot problem Message-ID: It happens with other backup software on NW6 SP1 too. I had an initial alocation of 1.3MB of memory climb to about 400MB whilst the TapeWare backup ran.... eventually abending the server due to being unable to allocate any more memory. Assuming NWASPI.CDM is loaded, to see if this is your problem, look at the memory used by NWPA. P.S. Phil gave us the pointer to sort this one out last month... Thanks! On Mon, 1 Jul 2002 08:07:14 -0700, Joe Doupnik wrote: > I have seen the same memory leak here with BackupExec v8.0 on >NW 6. The matter has been reported to Novell and is under investigation. >It is the reason I was asked to do that memory dump the other day. > Joe D. From mfowler at KENNESAW.EDU Mon Jul 1 18:23:04 2002 From: mfowler at KENNESAW.EDU (Melissa Fowler) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:23:04 -0400 Subject: Xerox Copier/printers Message-ID: Is anyone currently using the Xerox Copier/printers on Netware 6? If so, do you have them configured as NDPS? Thanks, Melissa From JRD at CC.USU.EDU Mon Jul 1 21:31:50 2002 From: JRD at CC.USU.EDU (Joe Doupnik) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 16:31:50 -0400 Subject: Server reboot problem Message-ID: <01KJL11QPPDUADC4C2@cc.usu.edu> >It happens with other backup software on NW6 SP1 too. I had an initial >alocation of 1.3MB of memory climb to about 400MB whilst the TapeWare >backup ran.... eventually abending the server due to being unable to >allocate any more memory. > >Assuming NWASPI.CDM is loaded, to see if this is your problem, look at the >memory used by NWPA. > >P.S. Phil gave us the pointer to sort this one out last month... Thanks! > >On Mon, 1 Jul 2002 08:07:14 -0700, Joe Doupnik wrote: > >> I have seen the same memory leak here with BackupExec v8.0 on >>NW 6. The matter has been reported to Novell and is under investigation. >>It is the reason I was asked to do that memory dump the other day. >> Joe D. --------- It's not just NWASPI.*. I ran an experiment using BE v8.0 after unloading nwaspi and renaming its two files. AD_ASPI was used instead, backups work, and the memory leak continues unimproved. Joe D. From prandal at HEREFORDSHIRE.GOV.UK Tue Jul 2 09:43:47 2002 From: prandal at HEREFORDSHIRE.GOV.UK (Randal, Phil) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 04:43:47 -0400 Subject: Server reboot problem Message-ID: I'm seeing a memory leak with NW5.1 SP5 beta too, using Arcserve with its NWPA drivers. I haven't got the time to investigate it more thoroughly, alas. It's a test box so it doesn't really matter. Phil --------------------------------------------- Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Doupnik [mailto:JRD at CC.USU.EDU] > Sent: 01 July 2002 22:32 > To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU > Subject: Re: Server reboot problem > > > >It happens with other backup software on NW6 SP1 too. I had > an initial > >alocation of 1.3MB of memory climb to about 400MB whilst the TapeWare > >backup ran.... eventually abending the server due to being unable to > >allocate any more memory. > > > >Assuming NWASPI.CDM is loaded, to see if this is your > problem, look at the > >memory used by NWPA. > > > >P.S. Phil gave us the pointer to sort this one out last > month... Thanks! > > > >On Mon, 1 Jul 2002 08:07:14 -0700, Joe Doupnik > wrote: > > > >> I have seen the same memory leak here with > BackupExec v8.0 on > >>NW 6. The matter has been reported to Novell and is under > investigation. > >>It is the reason I was asked to do that memory dump the other day. > >> Joe D. > --------- > It's not just NWASPI.*. I ran an experiment using BE > v8.0 after > unloading nwaspi and renaming its two files. AD_ASPI was used instead, > backups work, and the memory leak continues unimproved. > Joe D. > From sindre.westre at START.NO Tue Jul 2 13:40:13 2002 From: sindre.westre at START.NO (Sindre Westre) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 08:40:13 -0400 Subject: Xerox Copier/printers Message-ID: Melissa, I've just bought a new Xerox Phaser printer, and was looking for a updated Xerox NDPS gateway. I mailed Xerox to ask when they will release a gateway that runs on NW 6.0. This is their reply: I just doubllechecked with my Novell specialist and he confirmed that the current version of our NDPS gateway is compatible to Novell NetWare 6.0. http://www.xerox.com/go/xrx/template/012.jsp?prodID=NDPS&Xcntry=USA&Xlang=en _US&Xseg=corp So I guess NDPS works just fine.. Sindre From Wallace.Marks at NATIONALVISION.COM Tue Jul 2 13:57:51 2002 From: Wallace.Marks at NATIONALVISION.COM (Wallace Marks) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 08:57:51 -0400 Subject: Xerox Copier/printers Message-ID: >>> Melissa Fowler 07/01/02 01:22PM >>> Is anyone currently using the Xerox Copier/printers on Netware 6? Yes. We have four of the DocuCentre 470ST copiers. Three are configured as plain printer/copiers, the fourth is configured with document scanning & e-mail capabilities. For document scanning you have to set up a generic user for the scanner to log in as, & load special software on each workstation. When a job is scanned, it's automatically transferred over to the user's workstation. For e-mail you point the copier to an SMTP server for mail delivery and an LDAP server for address resolution. If so, do you have them configured as NDPS? Yes we do. Make sure you download the latest NDPS gateway from Xerox's website though. Also, you have to enable all of the TCP/IP functions on the copier for the gateway to work properly. One annoyance we encountered - the driver insists upon printing banner pages. The option to disable this is kind of hidden: look under Properties -> General -> Printing Preferences -> Layout -> Advanced. A lot of other useful settings (such as stapling) are hidden here as well. -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: Wallace Marks1.vcf Url: http://netlab1.usu.edu/pipermail/novell/attachments/20020702/46c2ea49/attachment.ksh From wheyward at DCR.STATE.VA.US Tue Jul 2 14:34:05 2002 From: wheyward at DCR.STATE.VA.US (Wayne Heyward) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 09:34:05 -0400 Subject: Server reboot problem Message-ID: Yup, that sounds about exactly what I'm getting (yes, nwaspi.cdm is loading). Abend.log is showing cpu hogs and memory problems. I can't find a 3.21 version of nwaspi (thought I'd found it on a field office server that's still only SP3, but it was also 3.22), so I'm going to try the backup exec file. -=><=- >>> "Randal, Phil" 07/01/02 09:59AM >>> A memory leak which shows as nwpa.nlm taking more and more memory till the server eventually abends. Only applies oif you are actually loading and using nwaspi.cdm, of course. Alternatively, if you're using a recent build of Backup Exec, there will be the file becdm.cdm in sys:bkupexec\nlms. If so, do the following: comment out any loads of nwaspi.cdm from c:\nwserver\startup.ncf edit sys:system\bestart.ncf adding " -b" (without the quotes) to the end of the load bkupexec line reboot your server Cheers, Phil --------------------------------------------- Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK > -----Original Message----- > From: Wayne Heyward [mailto:wheyward at DCR.STATE.VA.US] > Sent: 01 July 2002 14:33 > To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU > Subject: Re: Server reboot problem > > > Okay, I will... why? Is this a documented problem? And why > would I get it on this one and not the other servers (same > type, same configuration)? > > -=><=- > > >>> "Randal, Phil" 06/28/02 10:53AM >>> > Did you backrev nwaspi.cdm to version 3.21? > > If not, do so. > > Phil > > --------------------------------------------- > Phil Randal > Network Engineer > Herefordshire Council > Hereford, UK > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Wayne Heyward [mailto:wheyward at DCR.STATE.VA.US] > > Sent: 28 June 2002 15:30 > > To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU > > Subject: Server reboot problem > > > > > > Here's the scenario: > > Hardware: HP NetServer LH4 (3 years old) > > Software: NetWare 5.1 SP4, NDS8 > > Modules loaded: > > McAfee Netshield; NDPS manager, broker, and HP gateway; Web > > Manager (nvxadmup); Backup Exec; Powercute; the usual Netware > > suspects (Vortex, sqlmon, timesync, etc) > > > > Recent activity: Last weekend, I upgraded all servers to SP4, > > and then upgraded from NDS7 to NDS eDir 8.62 > > > > Problem: One of my servers, FP2, has rebooted three times in > > the last 48 hours, and simply froze once. Server log shows > > nothing wrong. It just reboots itself. No abend message or > > anything. I'm ready to call HP in to look it over, but I > > want to eliminate all possibilities of software issues first, > > since they only cover the software. > > > > Is it coincidence that this started less than a week after > > NDS was upgraded (this server is the master replica for the > > tree and partition)? Of could there be a connection? Does > > anyone know of software issues that can cause a server to > > simply reboot itself? > > > > For now, I've unloaded McAfee (which I never fully trusted > > anyway) and the Web Manager (which I never use anyway) to see > > if that helps. > > > > -=><=- > > > > Wayne Heyward > > Network Manager > > Virginia Department of Conservation & Recreation > > wheyward at dcr.state.va.us > > > From wheyward at DCR.STATE.VA.US Tue Jul 2 14:36:08 2002 From: wheyward at DCR.STATE.VA.US (Wayne Heyward) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 09:36:08 -0400 Subject: Server reboot problem Message-ID: Hmm. Is that only 8.0, Joe, or is 8.5 similarly affected? (we're running 5.1 sp4 here...) -=><=- >>> Joe Doupnik 07/01/02 05:31PM >>> >It happens with other backup software on NW6 SP1 too. I had an initial >alocation of 1.3MB of memory climb to about 400MB whilst the TapeWare >backup ran.... eventually abending the server due to being unable to >allocate any more memory. > >Assuming NWASPI.CDM is loaded, to see if this is your problem, look at the >memory used by NWPA. > >P.S. Phil gave us the pointer to sort this one out last month... Thanks! > >On Mon, 1 Jul 2002 08:07:14 -0700, Joe Doupnik wrote: > >> I have seen the same memory leak here with BackupExec v8.0 on >>NW 6. The matter has been reported to Novell and is under investigation. >>It is the reason I was asked to do that memory dump the other day. >> Joe D. --------- It's not just NWASPI.*. I ran an experiment using BE v8.0 after unloading nwaspi and renaming its two files. AD_ASPI was used instead, backups work, and the memory leak continues unimproved. Joe D. From DManning at BARK.WNYRIC.ORG Tue Jul 2 14:48:16 2002 From: DManning at BARK.WNYRIC.ORG (Dick Manning) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 09:48:16 -0400 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Melissa, We are using a Canon R8500 on Netware 5.1 SP4 as NDPS printer and copier for the elementary school. It has been working without a problem for a year using the gateway software that came with it. Richard Manning, CNE Network Technician Barker Central School District 1628 Quaker Road Barker, NY 14012 ******************** Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 09:48:16 -0400 From: Melissa Fowler Subject: Xerox Copier/printers Is anyone currently using the Xerox Copier/printers on Netware 6? If so, do you have them configured as NDPS? Thanks, Melissa -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://netlab1.usu.edu/pipermail/novell/attachments/20020702/0d35b5f2/attachment.html From JRD at CC.USU.EDU Tue Jul 2 14:55:26 2002 From: JRD at CC.USU.EDU (Joe Doupnik) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 09:55:26 -0400 Subject: Server reboot problem Message-ID: <01KJM1CWXDHUADC506@cc.usu.edu> >Hmm. Is that only 8.0, Joe, or is 8.5 similarly affected? (we're running = >5.1 sp4 here...) --------- Well, the nearly obvious situation is I have BE v8.0 rather than 8.5 or 9, so I can address only that edition. Also, a person suggested using the -b option to load BE and omit nwaspi.nlm. Alas, v8.0 does not recognise the -b option, though it will accecpt and use ad_aspi.nlm instead (Adaptec board). If I had more time I could play with reinstalling it to use a board-specific driver, but I suspect the memory leak will continue. The leak is a continual drop of a cache buffer every second or two during backups, really closer to 2KB per second, but only when files are accessed. The memory is registered against nwpa.nlm and is not returned. From the list we see the same situation occurring on NW 6 and 5.1, with BE and Arcserve. Those are useful observations for Novell to exploit. Joe D. From John at COASTAL.EDU Tue Jul 2 15:05:52 2002 From: John at COASTAL.EDU (John Hanna) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 10:05:52 -0400 Subject: Server reboot problem In-Reply-To: <01KJM1CWXDHUADC506@cc.usu.edu> Message-ID: This is a problem with BE v9.0 too. I had to use the -b option to fix on my nw5.1 SP4 servers. >-----Original Message----- >From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of >Joe Doupnik >Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 10:55 AM >To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU >Subject: Re: Server reboot problem > > >>Hmm. Is that only 8.0, Joe, or is 8.5 similarly affected? (we're >running = >>5.1 sp4 here...) >--------- > Well, the nearly obvious situation is I have BE v8.0 rather than >8.5 or 9, so I can address only that edition. Also, a person suggested >using the -b option to load BE and omit nwaspi.nlm. Alas, v8.0 does not >recognise the -b option, though it will accecpt and use ad_aspi.nlm >instead (Adaptec board). If I had more time I could play with reinstalling >it to use a board-specific driver, but I suspect the memory leak will >continue. > The leak is a continual drop of a cache buffer every second or >two during backups, really closer to 2KB per second, but only when files >are accessed. The memory is registered against nwpa.nlm and is not >returned. > From the list we see the same situation occurring on NW 6 and 5.1, >with BE and Arcserve. Those are useful observations for Novell to exploit. > Joe D. > From mfowler at KENNESAW.EDU Tue Jul 2 16:04:37 2002 From: mfowler at KENNESAW.EDU (Melissa Fowler) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 11:04:37 -0400 Subject: Legacy Printing in 6 Message-ID: Has anyone has created a 'Novell Legacy Printer' in the NW6 environment??Thanks, Melissa From kmwade at GENDATASYS.COM Tue Jul 2 16:54:00 2002 From: kmwade at GENDATASYS.COM (Kevin Wade) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 11:54:00 -0400 Subject: Legacy Printing in 6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3D218637.32217.1A22620F@localhost> Do you mean print queue/print server? Yes. Works fine so far. Kevin Wade -------- Original Message: > Has anyone has created a 'Novell Legacy Printer' in the NW6 environment??Thanks, > Melissa From felix at BUSAFF.USC.EDU Tue Jul 2 18:24:18 2002 From: felix at BUSAFF.USC.EDU (Felix Roces) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 13:24:18 -0400 Subject: Question on Arcserve 7 and NW6 SP1 Message-ID: Hi All, First off, thanks for responding to questions I have posted to the list regarding upgrading to NW6 and then viewing the DS version... I have the list set to digest mode so cannot reply to the emails until after I have received the digest. But all of the replies have been on target and are very much appreciated. I have been making good progress on upgrading my NW4.11 SP9 servers to NW6. I have 2 servers now on NW6 SP1. The latest server we upgraded had Arcserve 6.6 IT and a Compaq TL891 (small tape library unit). It has been working well for the past few years and now we are faced with moving to Arcserve 7 on this server. Just wanted to find out from the group if anybody has installed Arcserve 7 on NW6 SP1 and what if any preparations are necessary for a successful installation... On CA's Web site there are patches being mentioned but they relate mostly to Netware 6.0 The NW6 SP1 patch now have updated drivers (like TSA600.nlm and SMDR.nlm) and seems to have superseded most of the patches mentioned by CA. Any advice on preparations for the upgrade is appreciated. Regards, Felix --------------------------------------------------------- Felix Roces, CNE/CNA/CNS, MCSE, Compaq ASE Network Manager Facilities Management Services University Of Southern California --------------------------------------------------------- From arthur-b at ZEELANDNET.NL Tue Jul 2 23:11:03 2002 From: arthur-b at ZEELANDNET.NL (Arthur B.) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:11:03 -0400 Subject: OT: FYI: MS security patch EULA gives Billg admin privileges on your box Message-ID: <3D2224EF.70802@zeelandnet.nl> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/25956.html Can anyone confirm or deny this? Including what your companies legal department thinks about this if found confirmed. Did confirm the EULA statement for myself after executing the downloaded 7.1 patch (wm320920_71.exe) from http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/bulletin/ms02-032.asp but I'm no legal expert. Sorry for the off topic posting but if found to be true and of concern then the implications could be significant. Wouldn't like untested changes to sneak in via the back door with the potential of bringing down or changing in undesired ways (parts of) a perfectly good running company network. Certainly if the ability of that potential has legal backing and/or is actively enforced in one way or another by a major vendor. 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Rich Molettiere Technology Coordinator Omaha North High School "Technology is not a free lunch." From rmoletti at OPS.ORG Wed Jul 3 12:50:43 2002 From: rmoletti at OPS.ORG (Rich Molettiere) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 07:50:43 -0400 Subject: DHCP & WINS Message-ID: Excuse possible duplicate posting... Just discovered that our DHCP server is not distributing WINS info correctly. I'm sketchy on the configuration but based on a TID, I've added the WINS server IPs into Global DHCP Options, code 44, restarted DHCP but still no luck. What am I missing? Rich Molettiere Technology Coordinator Omaha North High School "Technology is not a free lunch." From AHidalgo at SALUD.UNM.EDU Wed Jul 3 13:24:15 2002 From: AHidalgo at SALUD.UNM.EDU (Al Hidalgo) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 08:24:15 -0400 Subject: DHCP & WINS Message-ID: There is also Option 46 which should be configured. DHCP will not overwrite already existing client wins settings. -a Al Hidalgo, MCNE Senior Analyst Information Systems UNMHSC Medical Center ahidalgo at salud.unm.edu >>> rmoletti at OPS.ORG 7/2/02 12:58:41 PM >>> Excuse possible duplicate posting... Just discovered that our DHCP server is not distributing WINS info correctly. I'm sketchy on the configuration but based on a TID, I've added the WINS server IPs into Global DHCP Options, code 44, restarted DHCP but still no luck. What am I missing? Rich Molettiere Technology Coordinator Omaha North High School "Technology is not a free lunch." From KANFERM at WSDVT.ORG Wed Jul 3 14:14:09 2002 From: KANFERM at WSDVT.ORG (Mike Kanfer) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 09:14:09 -0400 Subject: JetDirect / NDPS / Netware 6 Message-ID: We just recently upgraded from Netware 5.1 to 6 and have a good blend of old and net Jet Directs and they work without any problems. Mike >>> mfowler at KENNESAW.EDU 06/27/02 03:16PM >>> Question, has anyone had problems with any Jet Direct boxes that were already configured for NDPS when upgrading from NetWare 5 to NetWare 6. Out of 120+ printer only about 10 can't be configured to run NDPS under NetWare 5. My theory is if it will run NDPS under NetWare 5, it should run NDPS under 6. However one tech here disagrees and says we need to order 100 new Jet Direct Cards to bring them up to a firmware version that will run with NetWare 6. I would appreciate any advice. Thanks, Melissa From amar.gill at BLAKES.COM Wed Jul 3 14:24:12 2002 From: amar.gill at BLAKES.COM (AMAR GILL) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 09:24:12 -0400 Subject: NW5.1 SP4 Server Stops Responding Message-ID: We are experiencing a strange issue that no one seems to be able to get a handle on. Server info: Compaq ML 530, NW51/SP4 running as file/print, client 4.83 with patches. For some reason, the workstations lose connection and service processes start climbing. At the same time, the number of connections start climbing as workstations try to re-establish connectivity. This results in 3 or 4 connections per workstations. Can not delete connections; attempts to get info on connection results in monitor hanging. Only solution is to reboot server. This started to happen after SP4 and client 4.83. Anyone else experiencing this or have any thoughts? We've looked at server parameters, client caching is off, virus protection on the server has been disabled, multi-processor disabled, dsrepairs/vrepair done. Two of our offices are now experiencing the exact same issue. Thank you in advance. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://netlab1.usu.edu/pipermail/novell/attachments/20020703/1e0aed08/attachment.html From John at COASTAL.EDU Wed Jul 3 14:28:59 2002 From: John at COASTAL.EDU (John Hanna) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 09:28:59 -0400 Subject: NW5.1 SP4 Server Stops Responding In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Re-apply the latest NSSD from Compaq after the SP4. -----Original Message----- From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of AMAR GILL Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 9:24 AM To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU Subject: Re: NW5.1 SP4 Server Stops Responding We are experiencing a strange issue that no one seems to be able to get a handle on. Server info: Compaq ML 530, NW51/SP4 running as file/print, client 4.83 with patches. For some reason, the workstations lose connection and service processes start climbing. At the same time, the number of connections start climbing as workstations try to re-establish connectivity. This results in 3 or 4 connections per workstations. Can not delete connections; attempts to get info on connection results in monitor hanging. Only solution is to reboot server. This started to happen after SP4 and client 4.83. Anyone else experiencing this or have any thoughts? We've looked at server parameters, client caching is off, virus protection on the server has been disabled, multi-processor disabled, dsrepairs/vrepair done. Two of our offices are now experiencing the exact same issue. Thank you in advance. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://netlab1.usu.edu/pipermail/novell/attachments/20020703/f3cf567b/attachment.html From kmwade at GENDATASYS.COM Wed Jul 3 14:54:15 2002 From: kmwade at GENDATASYS.COM (Kevin Wade) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 09:54:15 -0400 Subject: Rejected posting to NOVELL@LSV.SYR.EDU In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3D22BB8F.10886.1EDAC3BC@localhost> Can the ListServ be configured not to return mail to itself? These are becoming more frequent. Kevin Wade -------- Original Message: > You are not authorized to send mail to the NOVELL list from your > novell at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU account. You might be authorized to send to the list > from another of your accounts, or perhaps when using another mail program which > generates slightly different addresses, but LISTSERV has no way to associate > this other account or address with yours. 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Our mortgage referral service combines the > highest quality loans with most economical rates and the easiest = > qualification! > > Click Here to fill out our form. > http://61.172.250.143/cl6/st/index.php > From prandal at HEREFORDSHIRE.GOV.UK Wed Jul 3 15:11:13 2002 From: prandal at HEREFORDSHIRE.GOV.UK (Randal, Phil) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 10:11:13 -0400 Subject: NW5.1 SP4 Server Stops Responding Message-ID: Any of these applied? NW56UP1 FLSYSFT7 WSOCK4G TCP590S NWLIB2 Latest DS (760 / 880) My gut feeling is that TCP590S may help. Phil --------------------------------------------- Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK -----Original Message----- From: AMAR GILL [mailto:amar.gill at BLAKES.COM] Sent: 03 July 2002 14:24 To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU Subject: Re: NW5.1 SP4 Server Stops Responding We are experiencing a strange issue that no one seems to be able to get a handle on. Server info: Compaq ML 530, NW51/SP4 running as file/print, client 4.83 with patches. For some reason, the workstations lose connection and service processes start climbing. At the same time, the number of connections start climbing as workstations try to re-establish connectivity. This results in 3 or 4 connections per workstations. Can not delete connections; attempts to get info on connection results in monitor hanging. Only solution is to reboot server. This started to happen after SP4 and client 4.83. Anyone else experiencing this or have any thoughts? We've looked at server parameters, client caching is off, virus protection on the server has been disabled, multi-processor disabled, dsrepairs/vrepair done. Two of our offices are now experiencing the exact same issue. Thank you in advance. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://netlab1.usu.edu/pipermail/novell/attachments/20020703/72f971dc/attachment.html From wheyward at DCR.STATE.VA.US Wed Jul 3 15:25:02 2002 From: wheyward at DCR.STATE.VA.US (Wayne Heyward) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 10:25:02 -0400 Subject: Server reboot problem Message-ID: Yeah, nearly obvious, but I hoped for a mixed environment or maybe knowedge from others' experiences... The -b works fine for my BE 8.5 and so far [furiously kncking wood every time the thought even crosses my mind] it's working out. Turned out it was BE loading nwaspi in the first place (i.e. not in the startup.ncf). Odd that the almost identically configured server next to it (only difference is not running NDPS) has yet to abend [commencing more frantic knocking of wood]. To be safe, though, I've added the switch to all other servers, to be implemented next time they boot. I noticed that "Dear Ab-end" in the appnotes has commented on the memory leak a couple times. No indication wether they're actually working to resolve the issue. -=><=- [aw man, my knuckles are all bloody now...] >>> Joe Doupnik 07/02/02 10:55AM >>> >Hmm. Is that only 8.0, Joe, or is 8.5 similarly affected? (we're running = >5.1 sp4 here...) --------- Well, the nearly obvious situation is I have BE v8.0 rather than 8.5 or 9, so I can address only that edition. Also, a person suggested using the -b option to load BE and omit nwaspi.nlm. Alas, v8.0 does not recognise the -b option, though it will accecpt and use ad_aspi.nlm instead (Adaptec board). If I had more time I could play with reinstalling it to use a board-specific driver, but I suspect the memory leak will continue. The leak is a continual drop of a cache buffer every second or two during backups, really closer to 2KB per second, but only when files are accessed. The memory is registered against nwpa.nlm and is not returned. From the list we see the same situation occurring on NW 6 and 5.1, with BE and Arcserve. Those are useful observations for Novell to exploit. Joe D. From felix at BUSAFF.USC.EDU Wed Jul 3 16:16:28 2002 From: felix at BUSAFF.USC.EDU (Felix Roces) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 11:16:28 -0400 Subject: NetStorage on NW6 SP1 - Console Error Message Message-ID: Hi All, After installing SP1 on NW6, I get the following message on the console screen: Warning. File ieindex.html opened or created using task zero. Choose another task. Warning. File ieentry.html opened or created using task zero. Choose another task. The server also makes a loud and beeping noise everytime an attempt is made to browse the files thru NetStorage... Anybody know if there is a fix for this? I looked at Novell knowledgebase and it said there this is a cosmetic error, but I couldn't roll this out to users and have the server beeping like crazy.... Thanks in advance, Felix From JRD at CC.USU.EDU Wed Jul 3 16:44:35 2002 From: JRD at CC.USU.EDU (Joe Doupnik) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 11:44:35 -0400 Subject: Server reboot problem Message-ID: <01KJNJFXLSMGADC63S@cc.usu.edu> >Yeah, nearly obvious, but I hoped for a mixed environment or maybe = >knowedge from others' experiences... > >The -b works fine for my BE 8.5 and so far [furiously kncking wood every = >time the thought even crosses my mind] it's working out. Turned out it = >was BE loading nwaspi in the first place (i.e. not in the startup.ncf). > >Odd that the almost identically configured server next to it (only = >difference is not running NDPS) has yet to abend [commencing more frantic = >knocking of wood]. To be safe, though, I've added the switch to all other = >servers, to be implemented next time they boot. > >I noticed that "Dear Ab-end" in the appnotes has commented on the memory = >leak a couple times. No indication wether they're actually working to = >resolve the issue. ---------- Nor are "indications" provided. It so happens I created an incident (as they call these things) on the matter before the topic showed up on this list. Thus fixes stand a chance of appearing in the final consolidated service pack 8 when it ships. This week the company is down for holidays, a lot of stuff piles up, and generally things move slowly while folks take a needed break. Hang in there, the problem might be fixed. Joe D. From tvissoc at SCITEXDPI.COM Wed Jul 3 17:17:11 2002 From: tvissoc at SCITEXDPI.COM (Tony Vissoc) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 12:17:11 -0400 Subject: HP Omniback on NW 6 and other bckup questions Message-ID: Anyone running HP Omniback for backing up netware servers? I'd like to upgrade to NW6 in the near future and wondered if Omniback was operational. If so, what version is minimally required? Otherwise, I'm going to install a drive in the box. What seems to be the best backup software for ease of use and features? I have capacity of around 60Gig on this server, so that would define the type of drive media I use. Any recommendations on a drive for an HP Netserver LC2000 From admin at IAA.GOV.IL Thu Jul 4 06:56:47 2002 From: admin at IAA.GOV.IL (Mike Glassman - Admin) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 01:56:47 -0400 Subject: Remove IPX partial in client Message-ID: Morning all, I have noticed an odd phenomenon when reinstalling the Netware client, which had previously been installed using IP and IPX, and this time chosing IP only, and Remove IPX if present. After the client install, checking the NIC parameters shows there is no IPX protocols present. Checking the client properties and the Protocol Preferences tab, shows under the protocol windowlet, that IP and IPX are still there. Now I know there is no IPX, so if it was removed by the reinstall of the client as I stated, why does this windowlet still show IPX as a possible client option ? Anyone noticed this before ? Client 4.81 with latest SP. It doesn't seem to cause any problems, it's just odd as hell this should still be there. Thanks, Mike Glassman System & Security Admin Computer & Information Systems Israeli Airports Authority Ben-Gurion Airport http://www.ben-gurion-airport.co.il Tel : 972-3-9710785 Fax : 972-3-9710939 Email : admin at iaa.gov.il Usage of this email address or any email address at iaa.gov.il for the purpose of sales pitches, SPAM or any other such unwanted garbage, is illegal, and any person, whether corporate or alone doing so, will be prosecuted to the fullest possible extent. From jas at DECNS.COM Thu Jul 4 13:05:06 2002 From: jas at DECNS.COM (Jerry Shenk) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 08:05:06 -0400 Subject: SSL certificate for IIS web server In-Reply-To: <3D2224EF.70802@zeelandnet.nl> Message-ID: I would like to be able to create an SSL certificate for an IIS web server using my Novell CA. Can that be done? I searched through a bunch of stuff and it seems like in theory it should work but I wonder if anybody has any personal experience related to this. From dmechaber at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Thu Jul 4 17:05:16 2002 From: dmechaber at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Douglas Mechaber) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 12:05:16 -0400 Subject: NOVELL Digest - 2 Jul 2002 to 3 Jul 2002 (#2002-285) References: <20020704040002.JRAP1607.mtiwgwc29.worldnet.att.net@mailer.syr.edu> Message-ID: <001c01c22375$c5b95b00$752a480c@worldnet.att.net> ARCServe 7 is not approved for NetWare 6. You should upgrade to the latest version, as you are several versions behind. As a matter of fact, ARCServe IT is not recommended either. Current version is BrightStor ARCServe 2000 or maybe even later. I talked to CA at Comdex last year, and they were just coming out with a version for NW6, which is now out. The brand name has changed as well: BrightStor ARCServe for NetWare. Douglas Mechaber, MCSE, MCNE, CCDA, BCSD dmechaber at worldnet.att.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Automatic digest processor" To: "Recipients of NOVELL digests" Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 9:00 PM Subject: NOVELL Digest - 2 Jul 2002 to 3 Jul 2002 (#2002-285) > There are 13 messages totalling 644 lines in this issue. > > Topics of the day: > > 1. ArcServe 7 on NW 6 > 2. DHCP & WINS (3) > 3. JetDirect / NDPS / Netware 6 > 4. NW5.1 SP4 Server Stops Responding (3) > 5. Rejected posting to NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU > 6. Server reboot problem (2) > 7. NetStorage on NW6 SP1 - Console Error Message > 8. HP Omniback on NW 6 and other bckup questions > > The NOVELL list is hosted by L-Soft international's LISTSERV(TM) software > at Syracuse University. To unsubscribe, send a SIGNOFF NOVELL command > to LISTSERV at LSV.SYR.EDU. If you have questions about the list, write > to NOVELL-REQUEST at LSV.SYR.EDU. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 10:58:41 +0200 > From: Maurice de Laat > Subject: ArcServe 7 on NW 6 > > Using ArcServe 7 on NW6. After a few nights of good backups, arcserve > gives the message "Device Group [ARCSERVE] is Busy. Job will start > shortly." Instead of shortly they should have written never. > > Only solution so far for me is to restart NW6. > > Anyone knows this, and a solution? > Thanks. > -- > Maurice de Laat > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 12:26:27 -0500 > From: Rich Molettiere > Subject: DHCP & WINS > > Just discovered that our DHCP server is not distributing WINS info = > correctly. I'm sketchy on the configuration but based on a TID, I've = > added the WINS server IPs into Global DHCP Options, code 44, restarted = > DHCP but still no luck. > > What else am I missing? > > Rich Molettiere > Technology Coordinator > Omaha North High School > "Technology is not a free lunch." > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 13:58:41 -0500 > From: Rich Molettiere > Subject: DHCP & WINS > > Excuse possible duplicate posting... > > Just discovered that our DHCP server is not distributing WINS info = > correctly. I'm sketchy on the configuration but based on a TID, I've = > added the WINS server IPs into Global DHCP Options, code 44, restarted = > DHCP but still no luck. > > What am I missing? > > Rich Molettiere > Technology Coordinator > Omaha North High School > "Technology is not a free lunch." > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 06:23:56 -0600 > From: Al Hidalgo > Subject: Re: DHCP & WINS > > There is also Option 46 which should be configured. DHCP will not > overwrite already existing client wins settings. > > -a > > > > Al Hidalgo, MCNE > Senior Analyst > Information Systems > UNMHSC Medical Center > ahidalgo at salud.unm.edu > > >>> rmoletti at OPS.ORG 7/2/02 12:58:41 PM >>> > Excuse possible duplicate posting... > > Just discovered that our DHCP server is not distributing WINS info > correctly. I'm sketchy on the configuration but based on a TID, I've > added the WINS server IPs into Global DHCP Options, code 44, restarted > DHCP but still no luck. > > What am I missing? > > Rich Molettiere > Technology Coordinator > Omaha North High School > "Technology is not a free lunch." > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 09:11:06 -0400 > From: Mike Kanfer > Subject: Re: JetDirect / NDPS / Netware 6 > > We just recently upgraded from Netware 5.1 to 6 and have a good blend of = > old and net Jet Directs and they work without any problems. > > Mike > > >>> mfowler at KENNESAW.EDU 06/27/02 03:16PM >>> > Question, has anyone had problems with any Jet Direct boxes that were = > already configured for NDPS when upgrading from NetWare 5 to NetWare 6. > > Out of 120+ printer only about 10 can't be configured to run NDPS under = > NetWare 5. My theory is if it will run NDPS under NetWare 5, it should = > run NDPS under 6. However one tech here disagrees and says we need to = > order 100 new Jet Direct Cards to bring them up to a firmware version that = > will run with NetWare 6. > > I would appreciate any advice. > > Thanks, > Melissa > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 09:23:56 -0400 > From: AMAR GILL > Subject: Re: NW5.1 SP4 Server Stops Responding > > This is a MIME message. If you are reading this text, you may want to > consider changing to a mail reader or gateway that understands how to > properly handle MIME multipart messages. > > --=_663A74EB.C3A2D7B1 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > We are experiencing a strange issue that no one seems to be able to get a = > handle on. > Server info: Compaq ML 530, NW51/SP4 running as file/print, client 4.83 = > with patches. > For some reason, the workstations lose connection and service processes = > start climbing. > At the same time, the number of connections start climbing as workstations = > try to re-establish > connectivity. This results in 3 or 4 connections per workstations. Can = > not delete connections; > attempts to get info on connection results in monitor hanging. Only = > solution is to reboot server. > This started to happen after SP4 and client 4.83. Anyone else experiencing= > this or have any thoughts? > We've looked at server parameters, client caching is off, virus protection = > on the server has been > disabled, multi-processor disabled, dsrepairs/vrepair done. Two of our = > offices are now experiencing > the exact same issue. Thank you in advance. > > > > --=_663A74EB.C3A2D7B1 > Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Content-Description: HTML > > > > > > > 2px"> >
We are experiencing a strange issue that no one seems to be able to = > get a=20 > handle on.
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Server info: Compaq ML 530, NW51/SP4 running as file/print, client = > 4.83=20 > with patches.
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For some reason, the workstations lose connection and service = > processes=20 > start climbing.
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At the same time, the number of connections start climbing as = > workstations=20 > try to re-establish
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connectivity.  This results in 3 or 4 connections per=20 > workstations.  Can not delete connections;
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attempts to get info on connection results in monitor hanging.  = > Only=20 > solution is to reboot server.
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This started to happen after SP4 and client 4.83.  Anyone = > else=20 > experiencing this or have any thoughts?
>
We've looked at server parameters, client caching is off, virus = > protection=20 > on the server has been
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disabled, multi-processor disabled, dsrepairs/vrepair done.  Two = > of=20 > our offices are now experiencing
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the exact same issue.  Thank you in advance.
ML> > > --=_663A74EB.C3A2D7B1-- > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 09:28:45 -0400 > From: John Hanna > Subject: Re: NW5.1 SP4 Server Stops Responding > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C22274.073A30C0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="Windows-1252" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Re-apply the latest NSSD from Compaq after the SP4. > -----Original Message----- > From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of > AMAR GILL > Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 9:24 AM > To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU > Subject: Re: NW5.1 SP4 Server Stops Responding > > > We are experiencing a strange issue that no one seems to be able to get a > handle on. > Server info: Compaq ML 530, NW51/SP4 running as file/print, client 4.83 > with patches. > For some reason, the workstations lose connection and service processes > start climbing. > At the same time, the number of connections start climbing as workstations > try to re-establish > connectivity. This results in 3 or 4 connections per workstations. Can > not delete connections; > attempts to get info on connection results in monitor hanging. Only > solution is to reboot server. > This started to happen after SP4 and client 4.83. Anyone else > experiencing this or have any thoughts? > We've looked at server parameters, client caching is off, virus protection > on the server has been > disabled, multi-processor disabled, dsrepairs/vrepair done. Two of our > offices are now experiencing > the exact same issue. Thank you in advance. > > > ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C22274.073A30C0 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="Windows-1252" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > charset=3Dus-ascii"> > > 2px"> >
Re-apply the latest = > NSSD from=20 > Compaq after the SP4.
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From: Novell LAN = > Interest Group=20 > [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of AMAR = > GILL
Sent:=20 > Wednesday, July 03, 2002 9:24 AM
To:=20 > NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Re: NW5.1 SP4 Server Stops=20 > Responding

>
We are experiencing a strange issue that no one seems to be able = > to get a=20 > handle on.
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Server info: Compaq ML 530, NW51/SP4 running as file/print, = > client 4.83=20 > with patches.
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For some reason, the workstations lose connection and service = > processes=20 > start climbing.
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At the same time, the number of connections start climbing as=20 > workstations try to re-establish
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connectivity.  This results in 3 or 4 connections per=20 > workstations.  Can not delete connections;
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attempts to get info on connection results in monitor = > hanging.  Only=20 > solution is to reboot server.
>
This started to happen after SP4 and client 4.83.  Anyone = > else=20 > experiencing this or have any thoughts?
>
We've looked at server parameters, client caching is off, virus=20 > protection on the server has been
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disabled, multi-processor disabled, dsrepairs/vrepair done.  = > Two of=20 > our offices are now experiencing
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the exact same issue.  Thank you in=20 > advance.
> > ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C22274.073A30C0-- > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 08:53:21 -0500 > From: Kevin Wade > Subject: Re: Rejected posting to NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU > > Can the ListServ be configured not to return mail to itself? These are becoming > more frequent. > > Kevin Wade > > -------- Original Message: > > > You are not authorized to send mail to the NOVELL list from your > > novell at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU account. You might be authorized to send to the list > > from another of your accounts, or perhaps when using another mail program which > > generates slightly different addresses, but LISTSERV has no way to associate > > this other account or address with yours. If you need assistance or if you have > > any question regarding the policy of the NOVELL list, please contact the list > > owners: NOVELL-request at LSV.SYR.EDU. > > > > ------------------------ Rejected message (151 lines) ------------------------- > > Return-Path: > > Received: from 128.230.18.29 by LSV.SYR.EDU (SMTPL release 1.0d) with TCP; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:37:44 -0400 > > Received: from listserv (listserv.syr.edu) by mailer.syr.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A081C0 at mailer.syr.edu>; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:37:44 -0400 > > Return-Path: > > Received: from $domain (203.131.71.115:2587) by listserv.syr.edu (LSMTP for > > Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.000124E2 at listserv.syr.edu>; Tue, 2 > > Jul 2002 18:37:41 -0400 > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > From: novell at listserv.syr.edu > > To: novell at listserv.syr.edu > > Message-Id: <8GCY2F7N1L2M0FPV5CM.61JI2A9.novell at listserv.syr.edu> > > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > > Subject: Refinance and Save $$$ > > Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2002 18:44:04 -0500 > > Received: from listserv.syr.edu by THEE9E.listserv.syr.edu with SMTP for > > novell at listserv.syr.edu; Tue, 02 Jul 2002 18:44:04 -0500 > > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > > boundary="----=_NextPart_1270_1281133273556308617" > > Reply-To: novell at listserv.syr.edu > > X-Priority: 3 > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable > > X-Encoding: MIME > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > ------=_NextPart_1270_1281133273556308617 > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > We will help you get the mortgage loan you want! > > > > Only takes 2 minutes to fill out our form. > > http://61.172.250.143/cl6/st/index.php > > > > Whether a new home loan is what you seek or to refinance your current home = > > loan > > at a lower interest rate and payment, we can help! > > > > Mortgage rates haven't been this low in the last 12 months, take action now! > > Refinance your home with us and include all of those pesky credit card bills = > > or > > use the extra cash for that pool you've always wanted... > > > > Where others says NO, we say YES!!! > > Even if you have been turned down elsewhere, we can help! > > > > Easy terms! Our mortgage referral service combines the > > highest quality loans with most economical rates and the easiest = > > qualification! > > > > Click Here to fill out our form. > > http://61.172.250.143/cl6/st/index.php > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 15:17:34 +0100 > From: "Randal, Phil" > Subject: Re: NW5.1 SP4 Server Stops Responding > > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand > this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. > > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2229C.60425E40 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > > Any of these applied? > > NW56UP1 > FLSYSFT7 > WSOCK4G > TCP590S > NWLIB2 > Latest DS (760 / 880) > > My gut feeling is that TCP590S may help. > > Phil > --------------------------------------------- > Phil Randal > Network Engineer > Herefordshire Council > Hereford, UK > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMAR GILL [mailto:amar.gill at BLAKES.COM] > Sent: 03 July 2002 14:24 > To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU > Subject: Re: NW5.1 SP4 Server Stops Responding > > > We are experiencing a strange issue that no one seems to be able to get a > handle on. > Server info: Compaq ML 530, NW51/SP4 running as file/print, client 4.83 with > patches. > For some reason, the workstations lose connection and service processes > start climbing. > At the same time, the number of connections start climbing as workstations > try to re-establish > connectivity. This results in 3 or 4 connections per workstations. Can not > delete connections; > attempts to get info on connection results in monitor hanging. Only > solution is to reboot server. > This started to happen after SP4 and client 4.83. Anyone else experiencing > this or have any thoughts? > We've looked at server parameters, client caching is off, virus protection > on the server has been > disabled, multi-processor disabled, dsrepairs/vrepair done. Two of our > offices are now experiencing > the exact same issue. Thank you in advance. > > > > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2229C.60425E40 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > > > > >
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size=2>-----Original Message-----
From: AMAR GILL > [mailto:amar.gill at BLAKES.COM]
Sent: 03 July 2002 14:24
To: > NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Re: NW5.1 SP4 Server Stops > Responding

>
We are experiencing a strange issue that no one seems to be able to get a > handle on.
>
Server info: Compaq ML 530, NW51/SP4 running as file/print, client 4.83 > with patches.
>
For some reason, the workstations lose connection and service processes > start climbing.
>
At the same time, the number of connections start climbing as > workstations try to re-establish
>
connectivity.  This results in 3 or 4 connections per > workstations.  Can not delete connections;
>
attempts to get info on connection results in monitor hanging.  Only > solution is to reboot server.
>
This started to happen after SP4 and client 4.83.  Anyone else > experiencing this or have any thoughts?
>
We've looked at server parameters, client caching is off, virus > protection on the server has been
>
disabled, multi-processor disabled, dsrepairs/vrepair done.  Two of > our offices are now experiencing
>
the exact same issue.  Thank you in > advance.
> > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2229C.60425E40-- > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 10:24:16 -0400 > From: Wayne Heyward > Subject: Re: Server reboot problem > > Yeah, nearly obvious, but I hoped for a mixed environment or maybe = > knowedge from others' experiences... > > The -b works fine for my BE 8.5 and so far [furiously kncking wood every = > time the thought even crosses my mind] it's working out. Turned out it = > was BE loading nwaspi in the first place (i.e. not in the startup.ncf). > > Odd that the almost identically configured server next to it (only = > difference is not running NDPS) has yet to abend [commencing more frantic = > knocking of wood]. To be safe, though, I've added the switch to all other = > servers, to be implemented next time they boot. > > I noticed that "Dear Ab-end" in the appnotes has commented on the memory = > leak a couple times. No indication wether they're actually working to = > resolve the issue. > > -=3D><=3D- > [aw man, my knuckles are all bloody now...] > > >>> Joe Doupnik 07/02/02 10:55AM >>> > >Hmm. Is that only 8.0, Joe, or is 8.5 similarly affected? (we're running = > =3D > >5.1 sp4 here...) > --------- > Well, the nearly obvious situation is I have BE v8.0 rather than > 8.5 or 9, so I can address only that edition. Also, a person suggested > using the -b option to load BE and omit nwaspi.nlm. Alas, v8.0 does not > recognise the -b option, though it will accecpt and use ad_aspi.nlm > instead (Adaptec board). If I had more time I could play with reinstalling > it to use a board-specific driver, but I suspect the memory leak will > continue. > The leak is a continual drop of a cache buffer every second or > two during backups, really closer to 2KB per second, but only when files > are accessed. The memory is registered against nwpa.nlm and is not > returned. > From the list we see the same situation occurring on NW 6 and 5.1, > with BE and Arcserve. Those are useful observations for Novell to exploit. > Joe D. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 08:15:16 -0700 > From: Felix Roces > Subject: NetStorage on NW6 SP1 - Console Error Message > > Hi All, > > After installing SP1 on NW6, I get the following message > on the console screen: > > Warning. File ieindex.html opened or created using > task zero. Choose another task. > > Warning. File ieentry.html opened or created using > task zero. Choose another task. > > The server also makes a loud and beeping noise everytime > an attempt is made to browse the files thru NetStorage... > > Anybody know if there is a fix for this? I looked at Novell > knowledgebase and it said there this is a cosmetic error, > but I couldn't roll this out to users and have the server=20 > beeping like crazy.... > > Thanks in advance, > > Felix > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 09:44:20 -0700 > From: Joe Doupnik > Subject: Re: Server reboot problem > > >Yeah, nearly obvious, but I hoped for a mixed environment or maybe = > >knowedge from others' experiences... > > > >The -b works fine for my BE 8.5 and so far [furiously kncking wood every = > >time the thought even crosses my mind] it's working out. Turned out it = > >was BE loading nwaspi in the first place (i.e. not in the startup.ncf). > > > >Odd that the almost identically configured server next to it (only = > >difference is not running NDPS) has yet to abend [commencing more frantic = > >knocking of wood]. To be safe, though, I've added the switch to all other = > >servers, to be implemented next time they boot. > > > >I noticed that "Dear Ab-end" in the appnotes has commented on the memory = > >leak a couple times. No indication wether they're actually working to = > >resolve the issue. > ---------- > Nor are "indications" provided. It so happens I created an > incident (as they call these things) on the matter before the topic > showed up on this list. Thus fixes stand a chance of appearing in the > final consolidated service pack 8 when it ships. This week the company > is down for holidays, a lot of stuff piles up, and generally things > move slowly while folks take a needed break. Hang in there, the problem > might be fixed. > Joe D. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 12:09:10 -0400 > From: Tony Vissoc > Subject: HP Omniback on NW 6 and other bckup questions > > Anyone running HP Omniback for backing up netware servers? I'd like to > upgrade to NW6 in the near future and wondered if Omniback was > operational. If so, what version is minimally required? > > Otherwise, I'm going to install a drive in the box. What seems to be > the best backup software for ease of use and features? I have capacity > of around 60Gig on this server, so that would define the type of drive > media I use. Any recommendations on a drive for an HP Netserver LC2000 > > ------------------------------ > > End of NOVELL Digest - 2 Jul 2002 to 3 Jul 2002 (#2002-285) > *********************************************************** From mdlaat at MUISNETWERKEN.NL Thu Jul 4 18:58:59 2002 From: mdlaat at MUISNETWERKEN.NL (Maurice de Laat) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:58:59 -0400 Subject: ArcServe 7 on NW 6 In-Reply-To: <001c01c22375$c5b95b00$752a480c@worldnet.att.net> References: <20020704040002.JRAP1607.mtiwgwc29.worldnet.att.net@mailer.syr.edu> <001c01c22375$c5b95b00$752a480c@worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: <20020704175858.GA40228@xs4all.nl> On Thu, Jul 04, 2002 at 09:13:43AM -0700, Douglas Mechaber wrote: > ARCServe 7 is not approved for NetWare 6. You are not correct. ArcServe 7 is, after some patches, approved for Netware. > You should upgrade to the latest > version, as you are several versions behind. ArcServe 7 is the current version. > As a matter of fact, ARCServe > IT is not recommended either. Current version is BrightStor ARCServe 2000 > or maybe even later. Please remember we are talking about the Netware platform here, not that mouseclicking thing. > I talked to CA at Comdex last year, and they were just > coming out with a version for NW6, which is now out. The brand name has > changed as well: BrightStor ARCServe for NetWare. Which is ArcServe 7. > Douglas Mechaber, MCSE, MCNE, CCDA, BCSD Please also follow a course for proper quoting. Thank you. -- Maurice de Laat From Wallace.Marks at NATIONALVISION.COM Thu Jul 4 19:20:51 2002 From: Wallace.Marks at NATIONALVISION.COM (Wallace Marks) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:20:51 -0400 Subject: HP Ultrium drives Message-ID: Anybody have any experience using HP Ultrium drives with BackupExec 9 and NetWare 6? Or comparable drives? \We're considering upgrading from DDS3 and want to know what experiences other users have had with this combination. -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: Wallace Marks.vcf Url: http://netlab1.usu.edu/pipermail/novell/attachments/20020704/84d448ab/attachment.ksh From informatique at CHAUSSON-OUTILLAGE.FR Fri Jul 5 07:09:26 2002 From: informatique at CHAUSSON-OUTILLAGE.FR (Informatique Chausson) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 02:09:26 -0400 Subject: Multiple abends Arcserve 7 NW6 ASDB.NLM Message-ID: I have two servers NW6SP1 servers running Arcserve 7.0 with the same patches (I don't remember which ones). Each time the ASDB process attempts to "prune" the database records, multiple abends occur, and I have frozen servers, that I need to reboot. Does anyone have the same problems ? The abend.log file says : Running process: ASDB 394 Process Thread Owned by NLM: ASDB.NLM Stack pointer: C34F1ED8 OS Stack limit: C34EF0A0 Scheduling priority: 67371008 Wait state: 5050030 Blocked on Semaphore etc... From JMansfield at EIRCOM.IE Fri Jul 5 11:43:15 2002 From: JMansfield at EIRCOM.IE (John Mansfield) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 06:43:15 -0400 Subject: ArcServe 7 on NW 6 Message-ID: <27FA34A6E2C7D511AF780002B330C55202FECBFA@EIRCOMMSG04> MAurice, Are there any jobs still in the queue showing as active. We've seen this on 4.x 5.x etc where arcserve appears to just stop working and leaves a job in an inconsistent state - not finished. Running "tapedrv display jobhandles" will display any active tapserver jobs. Running "tapedrv kill jobhandle 'name'" where name is the alphanumeric "tag" for the running job will kill the running job. There can be several for one scheduled backup. killing them from the first one down usually works best. I haven't done this on NW6 or arcserve 7 but it has been consistant across arcsrve 5 and 6 and 6.1 versions. N.B. It did crash one server but that was a flakey Netware 4.11 boc anyway. The scheduler still thinks the job is active and won't release the script for it to run again if it's a repeat job until the server is restarted. I have separate jobs for each night and each friday so this allows for a week before I have to restart which allows for timely notification of users etc if need be. HTH John Mansfield Central Services Telephone - +(01)-7015060 Faxsimile - +(01)-4780382 E-mail - jmansfield at eircom.ie -----Original Message----- From: Maurice de Laat [mailto:mdlaat at MUISNETWERKEN.NL] Sent: 03 July 2002 09:59 Subject: ArcServe 7 on NW 6 Using ArcServe 7 on NW6. After a few nights of good backups, arcserve gives the message "Device Group [ARCSERVE] is Busy. Job will start shortly." Instead of shortly they should have written never. Only solution so far for me is to restart NW6. 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Phil --------------------------------------------- Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Doupnik [mailto:JRD at CC.USU.EDU] > Sent: 03 July 2002 17:44 > To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU > Subject: Re: Server reboot problem > > > >Yeah, nearly obvious, but I hoped for a mixed environment or maybe = > >knowedge from others' experiences... > > > >The -b works fine for my BE 8.5 and so far [furiously > kncking wood every = > >time the thought even crosses my mind] it's working out. > Turned out it = > >was BE loading nwaspi in the first place (i.e. not in the > startup.ncf). > > > >Odd that the almost identically configured server next to it (only = > >difference is not running NDPS) has yet to abend [commencing > more frantic = > >knocking of wood]. To be safe, though, I've added the > switch to all other = > >servers, to be implemented next time they boot. > > > >I noticed that "Dear Ab-end" in the appnotes has commented > on the memory = > >leak a couple times. No indication wether they're actually > working to = > >resolve the issue. > ---------- > Nor are "indications" provided. It so happens I created an > incident (as they call these things) on the matter before the topic > showed up on this list. Thus fixes stand a chance of appearing in the > final consolidated service pack 8 when it ships. This week the company > is down for holidays, a lot of stuff piles up, and generally things > move slowly while folks take a needed break. Hang in there, > the problem > might be fixed. > Joe D. > From G.Ross at CCW.GOV.UK Fri Jul 5 13:27:49 2002 From: G.Ross at CCW.GOV.UK (Gordon Ross) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 08:27:49 -0400 Subject: Novell & Formula 1 Message-ID: Just saw this on the BBC website. It only briefly mentions Novell, but something is better than nothing. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_2089000/2089503.stm GTG Gordon Ross, Network Manager/Rheolwr Rhydwaith Countryside Council for Wales/Cyngor Cefn Gwlad Cymru From dmulligan at MATHESON.CO.UK Fri Jul 5 14:25:29 2002 From: dmulligan at MATHESON.CO.UK (David Mulligan) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 09:25:29 -0400 Subject: Novell & Formula 1 Message-ID: There's a couple of black cabs in London sponsored by Novell Now if they've got the same kit on board I'm gonna start using them....... >>> Gordon Ross 05/07/02 13:27:24 >>> Just saw this on the BBC website. It only briefly mentions Novell, but something is better than nothing. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_2089000/2089503.stm GTG Gordon Ross, Network Manager/Rheolwr Rhydwaith Countryside Council for Wales/Cyngor Cefn Gwlad Cymru ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** From tmorehouse at SFASERV.SFA.UCONN.EDU Fri Jul 5 15:25:47 2002 From: tmorehouse at SFASERV.SFA.UCONN.EDU (Tom Morehouse) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 10:25:47 -0400 Subject: Set File Attribute error msg Message-ID: <467FD62BE5@sfaserv.sfa.uconn.edu> Good morning. Five to six times a day (only) one of my Win98 users gets the following "blue screen" message: * * * * Client Service for NetWare Unable to Complete a background operation Connection to AFS001ax Select Retry to try the operation again, or press Escape to cancel all outstanding background operations on this connection Operation: Set File Attribute Error: 0 x 94 'Unknown error' * * * * Hitting ESC clears the message, but this happens several times a day. Just started within the last two weeks, but the workstation hasn't been modified (knowingly ...) for six months. We haven't changed our Netware 4.11 server config for over a year. The message pops up regardless of whether the user is using the computer or not; sometimes it pops on screen within 2 minutes of booting, after Windows has "settled", but before any apps have been run by the user. Any suggestions on how to eliminate this message popping up? Thanks. Tom Morehouse University of Connecticut Thomas L. Morehouse Director of Outreach Network Manager School of Fine Arts, Box U-128 University of Connecticut Storrs CT 06269-1128 (860) 486 3774 voice (860) 486 6262 fax www.sfa.uconn.edu From meaou at UFL.EDU Fri Jul 5 15:28:49 2002 From: meaou at UFL.EDU (Sommer Sharp) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 10:28:49 -0400 Subject: Trustee rights Message-ID: We have a student lab that we are setting up. The student would have to authenticate to a student container, and then would be served apps via our local box and the workstation. I have the DLU working, and and login, but when I login with one of the "student" accounts, I don't see any files under sys:\public. I do see the zen directory under public and can see files in that. The workstation is registered and part of both a workstation group and a policy, both of which have the sys\public directory with RF rights. Since I can't see the files under public, I can't launch any of the NAL programs. This is stumping me since it is probably a very easy fix that I am missing. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Sommer Sharp, Postmaster Systems Programmer College of Veterinary Medicine University of Florida 352-392-4700 From John at COASTAL.EDU Fri Jul 5 15:29:26 2002 From: John at COASTAL.EDU (John Hanna) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 10:29:26 -0400 Subject: Print services Message-ID: Hello all, We are reviewing our print services solutions here since Novell seems to be heading in a direction away from the legacy queue based printing and I wanted to get some ideas of what others (listers) were doing for there print services. Please comment on what you are doing if you please. I have been reading up on NDPS and of course it says it is easier to setup and manage, but I have not found that true in my testing yet. I also see that Novell is a little behind in keeping up with the integrated gateways and printer drivers. Is there a place to download the latest of these? It seems they would be included in the consolidated service packs, but maybe not. Thanks in advance, John Hanna Network Services Manager Coastal Carolina University PO Box 261954 Conway, SC 29528-6054 Phone:(843)349-2150 Fax: (843)349-2990 Email: John at coastal.edu From moby at MOBSTERNET.COM Fri Jul 5 16:37:25 2002 From: moby at MOBSTERNET.COM (Mobeen Azhar) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 11:37:25 -0400 Subject: SSL certificate for IIS web server Message-ID: <000301c22439$da27ea60$5a6505ab@Mobster2> It works fine. Done it a number of times. --Moby -----Original Message----- From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Jerry Shenk Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 7:00 AM To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU Subject: SSL certificate for IIS web server I would like to be able to create an SSL certificate for an IIS web server using my Novell CA. Can that be done? I searched through a bunch of stuff and it seems like in theory it should work but I wonder if anybody has any personal experience related to this. From afalkovich at LNC.COM Fri Jul 5 17:10:29 2002 From: afalkovich at LNC.COM (Alex Falkovich) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 12:10:29 -0400 Subject: authenticating to W2K TS & NW 5.1 Message-ID: We are running W2K MF 1.8 with NetWare 5.1 on the back-end. To access the NetWare servers, we have configured GSNW, as opposed to the Novell Client, on all the MF servers. The dilemma we are having is how to authenticate a user to the NT Domain and the NDS Tree with two different login-id's. Does anyone know if there's a way to do this? Thanks. _ Alex From myr at SOCRATES.BERKELEY.EDU Fri Jul 5 20:52:14 2002 From: myr at SOCRATES.BERKELEY.EDU (Myriam Godfrey) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 15:52:14 -0400 Subject: Upgraded to netware 6.0 graphical console doesn't work Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020705124159.02fa3bc0@socrates.berkeley.edu> I just did the upgrade to netware 6. It went surprisingly well, but the GUI console doesn't seem to work. It launches, but when I click on install, it does nothing, and then hangs so that I can't get to any other of the GUI options. I've tried restarting the server with no success, and running xstart manually with no success. Does anyone know what's going on? I do have arcserve running... Is that relevant? One other oddness is that the time listed in the GUI is the time the server was started the first time as a 6.0 server (3:58) Thanks for any help. Myriam Godfrey Social Science Computing Lab UC Berkeley From rmoletti at OPS.ORG Fri Jul 5 20:57:58 2002 From: rmoletti at OPS.ORG (Rich Molettiere) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 15:57:58 -0400 Subject: NW51SP4, Winsock & httpstk Message-ID: Upgraded a 5.1 to SP4. Upgrade went okay but on reboot httpstk doesn't load. Error acessing Winsock Services, ccdoe=0x32 Server 5.00-1553 Module initialization failed. Searched the KB with no luck, ideas? Rich Molettiere Technology Coordinator Omaha North High School "Technology is not a free lunch." From JRD at CC.USU.EDU Fri Jul 5 21:09:09 2002 From: JRD at CC.USU.EDU (Joe Doupnik) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 16:09:09 -0400 Subject: Upgraded to netware 6.0 graphical console doesn't work Message-ID: <01KJQLFZL71EADC821@cc.usu.edu> >I just did the upgrade to netware 6. It went surprisingly well, but the GUI >console doesn't seem to work. It launches, but when I click on install, it >does nothing, and then hangs so that I can't get to any other of the GUI >options. I've tried restarting the server with no success, and running >xstart manually with no success. >Does anyone know what's going on? I do have arcserve running... Is that >relevant? One other oddness is that the time listed in the GUI is the time >the server was started the first time as a 6.0 server (3:58) >Thanks for any help. >Myriam Godfrey >Social Science Computing Lab >UC Berkeley ---- Myriam, "Not enough information to compute" I'm afraid. Please spell out the gory details of the system and what you did to it. Joe D. From jas at DECNS.COM Fri Jul 5 21:10:40 2002 From: jas at DECNS.COM (Jerry Shenk) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 16:10:40 -0400 Subject: SSL certificate for IIS web server In-Reply-To: <000301c22439$da27ea60$5a6505ab@Mobster2> Message-ID: Thanks! Any gotchas to watch out for or is is pretty straighforward? -----Original Message----- From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of Mobeen Azhar Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 11:37 AM To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU Subject: Re: SSL certificate for IIS web server It works fine. Done it a number of times. --Moby -----Original Message----- From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Jerry Shenk Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 7:00 AM To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU Subject: SSL certificate for IIS web server I would like to be able to create an SSL certificate for an IIS web server using my Novell CA. Can that be done? I searched through a bunch of stuff and it seems like in theory it should work but I wonder if anybody has any personal experience related to this. From gmnishimoto at UCDAVIS.EDU Fri Jul 5 22:14:23 2002 From: gmnishimoto at UCDAVIS.EDU (Gail Nishimoto) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 17:14:23 -0400 Subject: Need MMPARTFX.NLM (Netware 4.11) Message-ID: I'm looking for MMPARTFX.NLM that is supposed to resolve a problem in Netware 4.11 which generates a "Volume could not be mounted - Some or all volume segments could not be found" error (TID 2948646) It was supposed to be in PK411.NLM version 6.11 which shipped with 4.2. A search of the download area yields no results. If anyone has it, I would really appreciate a copy. I have an 18 gig disk that disappeared. Thank you, gail Gail M. Nishimoto Programmer/Analyst DANR Analytical Lab University of California, Davis (530) 752-9743 From John at COASTAL.EDU Fri Jul 5 22:33:53 2002 From: John at COASTAL.EDU (John Hanna) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 17:33:53 -0400 Subject: NW51SP4, Winsock & httpstk In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I spent several weeks chasing this one down, though the error message was not the same as you have put here. The fix is easy and worth trying though. Move the load httpstk.nlm state further down in your autoexec.ncf. It is placed just under the load nile.nlm by default and if nile.nlm does not finish loading and initializing before httpstk.nlm is loaded after SP$ is installed, it cause mucho problems. If you want to test first to see if this is your problem, just put a pause between load nile.nlm load httpstk.nlm HTH, John >-----Original Message----- >From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of >Rich Molettiere >Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 3:56 PM >To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU >Subject: NW51SP4, Winsock & httpstk > > >Upgraded a 5.1 to SP4. Upgrade went okay but on reboot httpstk >doesn't load. > >Error acessing Winsock Services, ccdoe=0x32 >Server 5.00-1553 Module initialization failed. > >Searched the KB with no luck, ideas? > >Rich Molettiere >Technology Coordinator >Omaha North High School >"Technology is not a free lunch." > > From John at COASTAL.EDU Fri Jul 5 22:35:57 2002 From: John at COASTAL.EDU (John Hanna) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 17:35:57 -0400 Subject: Need MMPARTFX.NLM (Netware 4.11) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Have you checked http://netlab1.usu.edu/pub/ yet? >-----Original Message----- >From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of >Gail Nishimoto >Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 5:04 PM >To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU >Subject: Need MMPARTFX.NLM (Netware 4.11) > > >I'm looking for MMPARTFX.NLM that is supposed to resolve a problem in >Netware 4.11 which generates a "Volume could not be mounted - Some or all >volume segments could not be found" error (TID 2948646) > >It was supposed to be in PK411.NLM version 6.11 which shipped with 4.2. A >search of the download area yields no results. > >If anyone has it, I would really appreciate a copy. I have an 18 gig disk >that disappeared. > >Thank you, > >gail > >Gail M. Nishimoto >Programmer/Analyst >DANR Analytical Lab >University of California, Davis >(530) 752-9743 > From gmnishimoto at UCDAVIS.EDU Fri Jul 5 22:44:09 2002 From: gmnishimoto at UCDAVIS.EDU (Gail Nishimoto) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 17:44:09 -0400 Subject: Need MMPARTFX.NLM (Netware 4.11) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thank you for the reminder. Just checked. Unless the file is imbedded in a file of a different name, I don't see it. gail On Fri, 5 Jul 2002, John Hanna wrote: > Have you checked http://netlab1.usu.edu/pub/ yet? > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of > >Gail Nishimoto > >Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 5:04 PM > >To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU > >Subject: Need MMPARTFX.NLM (Netware 4.11) > > > > > >I'm looking for MMPARTFX.NLM that is supposed to resolve a problem in > >Netware 4.11 which generates a "Volume could not be mounted - Some or all > >volume segments could not be found" error (TID 2948646) > > > >It was supposed to be in PK411.NLM version 6.11 which shipped with 4.2. A > >search of the download area yields no results. > > > >If anyone has it, I would really appreciate a copy. I have an 18 gig disk > >that disappeared. > > > >Thank you, > > > >gail > > > >Gail M. Nishimoto > >Programmer/Analyst > >DANR Analytical Lab > >University of California, Davis > >(530) 752-9743 > > > Gail M. Nishimoto Programmer/Analyst DANR Analytical Lab 207 Hoagland Hall (530) 752-9743 From gmnishimoto at UCDAVIS.EDU Fri Jul 5 23:32:58 2002 From: gmnishimoto at UCDAVIS.EDU (Gail Nishimoto) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 18:32:58 -0400 Subject: Don't need MMPARTFX.NLM Message-ID: Please pardon my previous request for MMPARTFX.NLM (I'm a novice). I found that it was already loaded. I guess my disk disappeared for another reason. gail Gail M. Nishimoto Programmer/Analyst DANR Analytical Lab University of California, Davis (530) 752-9743 From JRD at CC.USU.EDU Fri Jul 5 23:45:28 2002 From: JRD at CC.USU.EDU (Joe Doupnik) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 18:45:28 -0400 Subject: Need MMPARTFX.NLM (Netware 4.11) Message-ID: <01KJQQRH98LEADC83Q@cc.usu.edu> >Thank you for the reminder. Just checked. Unless the file is imbedded in >a file of a different name, I don't see it. > >gail ---- The "FX" extension is used typically with field test editions, transitory items. The final fix is likely rolled into later updates. I have retired all NW 4.x operating systems so I can't do a quick look-see for you. But the latest NW 4.11 service pack material (SP9?) makes the machine very nearly v4.2, so have a look at that SP. It's on netlab1/netlab2.usu.edu, under pub/allupdates. Joe D. On Fri, 5 Jul 2002, John Hanna wrote: > Have you checked http://netlab1.usu.edu/pub/ yet? > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of > >Gail Nishimoto > >Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 5:04 PM > >To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU > >Subject: Need MMPARTFX.NLM (Netware 4.11) > > > > > >I'm looking for MMPARTFX.NLM that is supposed to resolve a problem in > >Netware 4.11 which generates a "Volume could not be mounted - Some or all > >volume segments could not be found" error (TID 2948646) > > > >It was supposed to be in PK411.NLM version 6.11 which shipped with 4.2. A > >search of the download area yields no results. > > > >If anyone has it, I would really appreciate a copy. I have an 18 gig disk > >that disappeared. > > > >Thank you, > > > >gail > > > >Gail M. Nishimoto > >Programmer/Analyst > >DANR Analytical Lab > >University of California, Davis > >(530) 752-9743 > > > Gail M. Nishimoto Programmer/Analyst DANR Analytical Lab 207 Hoagland Hall (530) 752-9743 From zzz at MCTC.MNSCU.EDU Sat Jul 6 01:44:30 2002 From: zzz at MCTC.MNSCU.EDU (zzz) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 20:44:30 -0400 Subject: Print services Message-ID: Hi John, What OS are you using? Like any major change, much documentation reading and experimentation is required. This applies to both MS and NOVELL operating system solutions. We are NW51( soon NW6 later this month) and have migrated 100+ printers to NDPS. We had no problem maintaining the queues during this transition to NDPS and then getting rid of the queues. The only problem we had was with load balancing of a couple of printers that service a very high volume in our large open lab. The NDPS load balancing did not work as of last fall, so we kept the queue based setup for these particular printers. I will find out soon if printer load balancing works better with NW6 NDPS. As with most vendor drivers and software, it is often best to get the latest from the hardware vendor. As an example, we are an NDPS and an HP shop. We update the gateway software and printer drivers from the HP site. Other things I am looking into are direct IP printing from the workstation to the printer, so comments are welcome. Please post if you have questions. Thanks Dana >>> John Hanna 07/05/02 09:29AM >>> Hello all, We are reviewing our print services solutions here since Novell seems to be heading in a direction away from the legacy queue based printing and I wanted to get some ideas of what others (listers) were doing for there print services. Please comment on what you are doing if you please. I have been reading up on NDPS and of course it says it is easier to setup and manage, but I have not found that true in my testing yet. I also see that Novell is a little behind in keeping up with the integrated gateways and printer drivers. Is there a place to download the latest of these? It seems they would be included in the consolidated service packs, but maybe not. Thanks in advance, John Hanna Network Services Manager Coastal Carolina University PO Box 261954 Conway, SC 29528-6054 Phone:(843)349-2150 Fax: (843)349-2990 Email: John at coastal.edu From acquistj at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU Sat Jul 6 11:29:36 2002 From: acquistj at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU (Joe Acquisto) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 06:29:36 -0400 Subject: Trustee rights Message-ID: Some object associated with the student account(s) is filtering or other wise blocking rights. I suppose that is obvious. How to find where/what may be the tedious part. Could be an inherited rights filter or explicit trustee assignment. ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin, 1755 --------------------------------------------------- >>> meaou at UFL.EDU 07/05/02 10:29 AM >>> We have a student lab that we are setting up. The student would have to authenticate to a student container, and then would be served apps via our local box and the workstation. I have the DLU working, and and login, but when I login with one of the "student" accounts, I don't see any files under sys:\public. I do see the zen directory under public and can see files in that. The workstation is registered and part of both a workstation group and a policy, both of which have the sys\public directory with RF rights. Since I can't see the files under public, I can't launch any of the NAL programs. This is stumping me since it is probably a very easy fix that I am missing. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Sommer Sharp, Postmaster Systems Programmer College of Veterinary Medicine University of Florida 352-392-4700 From acquistj at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU Sat Jul 6 11:45:43 2002 From: acquistj at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU (Joe Acquisto) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 06:45:43 -0400 Subject: Print services Message-ID: I've found NDPS to be extremely easy to setup and extremely reliable. It is so simple, in fact, that one can easily make it "hard". I did. Once over a the learning trauma, it is a breeze. I did find, initially, some difficulty setting up, with very "funny" happenings. If this had to do with some IPX/IP and NCP comedy in early versions, or with others on campus trying to setup NDPS independently in the same time frame, is un resolved (and ignored as water under the bridge). One can service existing print queues via NDPS. This helps ease the transition and works well, in my experience. Users can be oblivious to the change while migrating. The "integrated gateways" are a product of the printer vendors, as are the printer drivers. If the vendor chooses not to make one, all is not lost. If you need updates, pound on the printer vendor. Often (always ?) one can use the "novell gateway" to make the printer work. You will find the occasional driver that simply will not work, either cannot add to NDPS "resources" or fails to load at printer install time. In that case, one can still create the printer object, associate it with any print driver. Later,install it on PC's via the Windows "add printer" comedy routine (browse network printers) and choose a "standard" windows driver. Works here. Seems to be the only way to get printers installed on some Win2k or XP stations. This last could probably be automated via WinBatch, but in smaller shops is hardly worth the effort. ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin, 1755 --------------------------------------------------- >>> John at COASTAL.EDU 07/05/02 10:30 AM >>> Hello all, We are reviewing our print services solutions here since Novell seems to be heading in a direction away from the legacy queue based printing and I wanted to get some ideas of what others (listers) were doing for there print services. Please comment on what you are doing if you please. I have been reading up on NDPS and of course it says it is easier to setup and manage, but I have not found that true in my testing yet. I also see that Novell is a little behind in keeping up with the integrated gateways and printer drivers. Is there a place to download the latest of these? It seems they would be included in the consolidated service packs, but maybe not. Thanks in advance, John Hanna Network Services Manager Coastal Carolina University PO Box 261954 Conway, SC 29528-6054 Phone:(843)349-2150 Fax: (843)349-2990 Email: John at coastal.edu From Mark.Johnston at ORANGE.NET Sun Jul 7 20:08:29 2002 From: Mark.Johnston at ORANGE.NET (Mark Johnston) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2002 15:08:29 -0400 Subject: Novell & Formula 1 Message-ID: <008f01c225ea$0c7ba540$2ea169d5@BAT106134> Jensen Button is also carrying the Novell name embedded in the Union Flag either side of his helmet - very visible. Still didn't help him finish the race mind, but Michelin are the ones with the bad publicity after this show! Novell are also one of the few IT companies advertising in airports that I've visited lately. Having just returned from TechEd (Microsoft - Europe), Novell are also going to need support from their partners like Microsoft are getting for .Net - I almost came out brain washed! Mark. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Ross" Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 1:27 PM Subject: Novell & Formula 1 > Just saw this on the BBC website. It only briefly mentions Novell, but > something is better than nothing. > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_2089000/2089503.stm > > GTG > > Gordon Ross, > Network Manager/Rheolwr Rhydwaith > Countryside Council for Wales/Cyngor Cefn Gwlad Cymru > From Mark.Johnston at ORANGE.NET Sun Jul 7 20:11:00 2002 From: Mark.Johnston at ORANGE.NET (Mark Johnston) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2002 15:11:00 -0400 Subject: Trustee rights Message-ID: <00ac01c225ea$66ced080$2ea169d5@BAT106134> Sommer, If the user has not got rights to the folder, they are not going to see it. The machine has rights to the folder (as you have granted the workstation group RF), but their is a distinction. System processes on the machine use the workstation account, user processes use the user account for rights calculations. You will have to give the users rights, or run NAL from the local machine's hard disks instead... Mark. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sommer Sharp" Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 3:28 PM Subject: Trustee rights We have a student lab that we are setting up. The student would have to authenticate to a student container, and then would be served apps via our local box and the workstation. I have the DLU working, and and login, but when I login with one of the "student" accounts, I don't see any files under sys:\public. I do see the zen directory under public and can see files in that. The workstation is registered and part of both a workstation group and a policy, both of which have the sys\public directory with RF rights. Since I can't see the files under public, I can't launch any of the NAL programs. This is stumping me since it is probably a very easy fix that I am missing. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Sommer Sharp, Postmaster Systems Programmer College of Veterinary Medicine University of Florida 352-392-4700 From rmoletti at OPS.ORG Mon Jul 8 13:14:33 2002 From: rmoletti at OPS.ORG (Molettiere, Rich) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:14:33 -0400 Subject: NW51SP4, Winsock & httpstk Message-ID: I tried pausing between nile & httpstk with no luck. Still getting: >Error acessing Winsock Services, ccdoe=0x32 >Server 5.00-1553 Module initialization failed. > Any other ideas? Rich Molettiere Technology Coordinator Omaha North High School "Technology is not a free lunch." >>> John Hanna 07/05/02 04:33PM >>> I spent several weeks chasing this one down, though the error message was not the same as you have put here. The fix is easy and worth trying though. Move the load httpstk.nlm state further down in your autoexec.ncf. It is placed just under the load nile.nlm by default and if nile.nlm does not finish loading and initializing before httpstk.nlm is loaded after SP$ is installed, it cause mucho problems. If you want to test first to see if this is your problem, just put a pause between load nile.nlm load httpstk.nlm HTH, John >-----Original Message----- >From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of >Rich Molettiere >Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 3:56 PM >To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU >Subject: NW51SP4, Winsock & httpstk > > >Upgraded a 5.1 to SP4. Upgrade went okay but on reboot httpstk >doesn't load. > >Error acessing Winsock Services, ccdoe=0x32 >Server 5.00-1553 Module initialization failed. > >Searched the KB with no luck, ideas? > >Rich Molettiere >Technology Coordinator >Omaha North High School >"Technology is not a free lunch." > > From John at COASTAL.EDU Mon Jul 8 14:48:53 2002 From: John at COASTAL.EDU (John Hanna) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 09:48:53 -0400 Subject: NW51SP4, Winsock & httpstk In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Try running the latest copy of pkidiag.nlm and see if there are any problems with your KMOs. I had to do that on one of my servers. >-----Original Message----- >From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of >Molettiere, Rich >Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 8:12 AM >To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU >Subject: Re: NW51SP4, Winsock & httpstk > > >I tried pausing between nile & httpstk with no luck. Still getting: > >>Error acessing Winsock Services, ccdoe=0x32 >>Server 5.00-1553 Module initialization failed. >> > >Any other ideas? > > > > >Rich Molettiere >Technology Coordinator >Omaha North High School >"Technology is not a free lunch." > >>>> John Hanna 07/05/02 04:33PM >>> >I spent several weeks chasing this one down, though the error message was >not the same as you have put here. The fix is easy and worth trying though. > >Move the load httpstk.nlm state further down in your autoexec.ncf. It is >placed just under the load nile.nlm by default and if nile.nlm does not >finish loading and initializing before httpstk.nlm is loaded after SP$ is >installed, it cause mucho problems. > >If you want to test first to see if this is your problem, just put a pause >between >load nile.nlm >load httpstk.nlm > >HTH, >John > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of >>Rich Molettiere >>Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 3:56 PM >>To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU >>Subject: NW51SP4, Winsock & httpstk >> >> >>Upgraded a 5.1 to SP4. Upgrade went okay but on reboot httpstk >>doesn't load. >> >>Error acessing Winsock Services, ccdoe=0x32 >>Server 5.00-1553 Module initialization failed. >> >>Searched the KB with no luck, ideas? >> >>Rich Molettiere >>Technology Coordinator >>Omaha North High School >>"Technology is not a free lunch." >> >> > From Wallace.Marks at NATIONALVISION.COM Mon Jul 8 15:08:49 2002 From: Wallace.Marks at NATIONALVISION.COM (Wallace Marks) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:08:49 -0400 Subject: Print services Message-ID: The documentation does a good job of explaining all of NDPS's strengths. In my opinion it is a lot easier to set up, once you get used to the differences. Having drivers install themselves automatically is wonderful. However, it sounds like you're looking for the "gotcha"s, so here are the problems we've encountered with NDPS: 1) You have to use NetWare Administrator to administer it.. 2) The printer view you get in NetWare Administrator depends upon the printer type specified on the gateway. Even with the latest gateways, new printer models aren't always listed. You CAN change the printer type after the fact if an updated gateway comes out. 3) Remote Printer Management associates printers with users, not workstations. This can be a problem if you have users that move around. Personally, I'd rather associate printers with workstations... 4) Out-of-service printers can be a real pain. With NetWare Administrator, moving print jobs is a multi-click operation and you have to move them one at a time. As far as I can tell, there's no way to temporarily redirect output to another printer. I've come up with a workaround though - rename the defective printer, then create an alias that points to a nearby working printer. Just make sure the drivers are compatible... ...and if you're using Win2k / WinXP workstations: 5) You have to use a special startup switch /DisableTLSMGR when opening NetWare Administrator. Otherwise you won't be able to add drivers to the Broker. 6) Win2k and WinXP will complain if you try to install drivers that haven't been certified by Microsoft. In my experience, this means virtually all printer drivers. The message that pops up says something like "you should not install this driver unless..." and that's the point where most users will click on CANCEL. What fun. You can turn off this annoying "feature" via the registry: HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Driver Signing\Policy=00. 7) If you use Remote Printer Management to automatically install printers on WinNt / Win2k workstations, you may get 45-60 second delays printing from older applications. Notepad is a good way to test this. If you install the printer manually via Add Printer, this problem doesn't occur. Most of our workstations are Win2k, so we skip the auto-configure options and install all of our printers manually. I haven't tested this bug with the latest 4.83 drivers though... 8) You can't capture an LPT port to an NDPS printer on WinNT/Win2K. The workaround here is to create a queue to capture the LPT port to, then assign that queue to an NDPS printer. Or quit using DOS applications that require LPT printing... or stay on Win95/Win98... Hope this helps... >>> John Hanna 07/05/02 10:29AM >>> We are reviewing our print services solutions here since Novell seems to be heading in a direction away from the legacy queue based printing and I wanted to get some ideas of what others (listers) were doing for there print services. Please comment on what you are doing if you please. I have been reading up on NDPS and of course it says it is easier to setup and manage, but I have not found that true in my testing yet. I also see that Novell is a little behind in keeping up with the integrated gateways and printer drivers. Is there a place to download the latest of these? It seems they would be included in the consolidated service packs, but maybe not. Thanks in advance, John Hanna Network Services Manager Coastal Carolina University PO Box 261954 Conway, SC 29528-6054 Phone:(843)349-2150 Fax: (843)349-2990 Email: John at coastal.edu -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: Wallace Marks.vcf Url: http://netlab1.usu.edu/pipermail/novell/attachments/20020708/a092c27f/attachment.ksh From mike at NETWORKIT-INC.COM Mon Jul 8 16:00:45 2002 From: mike at NETWORKIT-INC.COM (Mike DeWitt) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:00:45 -0400 Subject: Multiple abends Arcserve 7 NW6 ASDB.NLM Message-ID: Yes, I had two NW6SP1 boxes fully patched running Arcserve 7 that had similar problems. Sometimes I would see soft abends, sometimes it would freeze the server. ASDB was sometimes the culprit, other times the btrieve engine. The answer for me was to increase the memory available to btrieve via the bti.cfg file. Both servers have been running error free for ~ 2 months now. I couldn't get more than 2-3 days between reboots before that change. Mike >>> informatique at CHAUSSON-OUTILLAGE.FR 07/05/02 02:14 AM >>> I have two servers NW6SP1 servers running Arcserve 7.0 with the same patches (I don't remember which ones). Each time the ASDB process attempts to "prune" the database records, multiple abends occur, and I have frozen servers, that I need to reboot. Does anyone have the same problems ? The abend.log file says : Running process: ASDB 394 Process Thread Owned by NLM: ASDB.NLM Stack pointer: C34F1ED8 OS Stack limit: C34EF0A0 Scheduling priority: 67371008 Wait state: 5050030 Blocked on Semaphore etc... From larry_burd at COMPUSERVE.COM Mon Jul 8 16:09:00 2002 From: larry_burd at COMPUSERVE.COM (Larry Burd) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:09:00 -0400 Subject: timesync Message-ID: <200207081108_MC3-1-586-D329@compuserve.com> someone mentioned you can have timesync remove a minute or 2 each week. what exactly is the command? thx Larry From draymond at PALINC.COM Mon Jul 8 16:38:01 2002 From: draymond at PALINC.COM (Donna Raymond) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:38:01 -0400 Subject: HELP! Disable popup messages Message-ID: <3D29766C.4917.D5F1B6@localhost> I cannot for the life of me remember how to disable alerts from the server popping up as Netware message popups on users workstations. We are continually getting a nss volume almost out of disk space / or out of disk space message and everyone in the company is receiving it. I only want myself to receive these messages. Where do I configure this? I know how to disable the pop up for printing jobs- but not for alerts from the server. Any help woul be greatly appreciated! TIA Donna Donna Raymond, CNA Information Systems Administrator PAL 210 Lonsdale Avenue Pawtucket, Rhode Island 02860 (P) 401-728-8780 (F) 401-728-8784 draymond at palinc.com From DPRILL at NWHEALTH.EDU Mon Jul 8 17:02:31 2002 From: DPRILL at NWHEALTH.EDU (Dan Prill) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 12:02:31 -0400 Subject: HELP! Disable popup messages Message-ID: On the server console go into Monitor - Server Parameters - Novell Storage Services. It can be disabled for all users there. Don't know if there is some way to have those low-space warnings be sent selectively. If there is, I would also be interested in knowing that. Dan Prill Network/System Administrator Northwestern Health Sciences University Bloomington, MN >>> draymond at PALINC.COM 07/08/02 10:24AM >>> I cannot for the life of me remember how to disable alerts from the server popping up as Netware message popups on users workstations. We are continually getting a nss volume almost out of disk space / or out of disk space message and everyone in the company is receiving it. I only want myself to receive these messages. Where do I configure this? I know how to disable the pop up for printing jobs- but not for alerts from the server. Any help woul be greatly appreciated! TIA Donna Donna Raymond, CNA Information Systems Administrator PAL 210 Lonsdale Avenue Pawtucket, Rhode Island 02860 (P) 401-728-8780 (F) 401-728-8784 draymond at palinc.com From rmoletti at OPS.ORG Mon Jul 8 18:17:59 2002 From: rmoletti at OPS.ORG (Molettiere, Rich) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:17:59 -0400 Subject: NW51SP4, Winsock & httpstk Message-ID: Some days it would be better to stay home... Tried running pkidiag and I only get a blank screen with the cursor in the upper-left corner of the screen. Stits there for 15 minutes but will unload from the system console. Rich Molettiere Technology Coordinator Omaha North High School "Technology is not a free lunch." >>> John Hanna 07/08/02 08:47AM >>> Try running the latest copy of pkidiag.nlm and see if there are any problems with your KMOs. I had to do that on one of my servers. >-----Original Message----- >From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of >Molettiere, Rich >Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 8:12 AM >To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU >Subject: Re: NW51SP4, Winsock & httpstk > > >I tried pausing between nile & httpstk with no luck. Still getting: > >>Error acessing Winsock Services, ccdoe=0x32 >>Server 5.00-1553 Module initialization failed. >> > >Any other ideas? > > > > >Rich Molettiere >Technology Coordinator >Omaha North High School >"Technology is not a free lunch." > >>>> John Hanna 07/05/02 04:33PM >>> >I spent several weeks chasing this one down, though the error message was >not the same as you have put here. The fix is easy and worth trying though. > >Move the load httpstk.nlm state further down in your autoexec.ncf. It is >placed just under the load nile.nlm by default and if nile.nlm does not >finish loading and initializing before httpstk.nlm is loaded after SP$ is >installed, it cause mucho problems. > >If you want to test first to see if this is your problem, just put a pause >between >load nile.nlm >load httpstk.nlm > >HTH, >John > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of >>Rich Molettiere >>Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 3:56 PM >>To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU >>Subject: NW51SP4, Winsock & httpstk >> >> >>Upgraded a 5.1 to SP4. Upgrade went okay but on reboot httpstk >>doesn't load. >> >>Error acessing Winsock Services, ccdoe=0x32 >>Server 5.00-1553 Module initialization failed. >> >>Searched the KB with no luck, ideas? >> >>Rich Molettiere >>Technology Coordinator >>Omaha North High School >>"Technology is not a free lunch." >> >> > From rmoletti at OPS.ORG Mon Jul 8 18:26:31 2002 From: rmoletti at OPS.ORG (Molettiere, Rich) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:26:31 -0400 Subject: NW51SP4, Winsock & httpstk Message-ID: Forget the "blank screen" reported below - I wasn't running it on the CA server. Question - pkidiag has found an error and I now have three options 1. Do nothing 2. Rename the SSL certificate and create a new one (Apps may need to be reconfigured) 3. ReKey the SSL CertificateDNS (This means the old keys will be destroyed!) Is the better choice #3? I understand the old keys are destroyed but does it link everything up? Or should I take a chance with #2 and hope that my apps won't have to be rekeyed. Some days it would be better to stay home... Tried running pkidiag and I only get a blank screen with the cursor in the upper-left corner of the screen. Stits there for 15 minutes but will unload from the system console. Rich Molettiere Technology Coordinator Omaha North High School "Technology is not a free lunch." >>> John Hanna 07/08/02 08:47AM >>> Try running the latest copy of pkidiag.nlm and see if there are any problems with your KMOs. I had to do that on one of my servers. >-----Original Message----- >From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of >Molettiere, Rich >Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 8:12 AM >To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU >Subject: Re: NW51SP4, Winsock & httpstk > > >I tried pausing between nile & httpstk with no luck. Still getting: > >>Error acessing Winsock Services, ccdoe=0x32 >>Server 5.00-1553 Module initialization failed. >> > >Any other ideas? > > > > >Rich Molettiere >Technology Coordinator >Omaha North High School >"Technology is not a free lunch." > >>>> John Hanna 07/05/02 04:33PM >>> >I spent several weeks chasing this one down, though the error message was >not the same as you have put here. The fix is easy and worth trying though. > >Move the load httpstk.nlm state further down in your autoexec.ncf. It is >placed just under the load nile.nlm by default and if nile.nlm does not >finish loading and initializing before httpstk.nlm is loaded after SP$ is >installed, it cause mucho problems. > >If you want to test first to see if this is your problem, just put a pause >between >load nile.nlm >load httpstk.nlm > >HTH, >John > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of >>Rich Molettiere >>Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 3:56 PM >>To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU >>Subject: NW51SP4, Winsock & httpstk >> >> >>Upgraded a 5.1 to SP4. Upgrade went okay but on reboot httpstk >>doesn't load. >> >>Error acessing Winsock Services, ccdoe=0x32 >>Server 5.00-1553 Module initialization failed. >> >>Searched the KB with no luck, ideas? >> >>Rich Molettiere >>Technology Coordinator >>Omaha North High School >>"Technology is not a free lunch." >> >> > From John at COASTAL.EDU Mon Jul 8 19:24:26 2002 From: John at COASTAL.EDU (John Hanna) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 14:24:26 -0400 Subject: NW51SP4, Winsock & httpstk In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hum, What apps are your running? I usually run choice #2. It links sas objects and KMOs. I haven't had to rekey any apps after doing it, but all I am running is Novell Apps. >-----Original Message----- >From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of >Molettiere, Rich >Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 1:24 PM >To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU >Subject: Re: NW51SP4, Winsock & httpstk > > >Forget the "blank screen" reported below - I wasn't running it on the CA >server. > >Question - pkidiag has found an error and I now have three options > >1. Do nothing >2. Rename the SSL certificate and create a new one (Apps may need to be >reconfigured) >3. ReKey the SSL CertificateDNS (This means the old keys will be >destroyed!) > >Is the better choice #3? I understand the old keys are destroyed but does >it >link everything up? Or should I take a chance with #2 and hope >that my apps >won't have to be rekeyed. > > > >Some days it would be better to stay home... > >Tried running pkidiag and I only get a blank screen with the cursor in the >upper-left corner of the screen. Stits there for 15 minutes but >will unload >from the system console. > >Rich Molettiere >Technology Coordinator >Omaha North High School >"Technology is not a free lunch." > >>>> John Hanna 07/08/02 08:47AM >>> >Try running the latest copy of pkidiag.nlm and see if there are >any problems >with your KMOs. I had to do that on one of my servers. > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of >>Molettiere, Rich >>Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 8:12 AM >>To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU >>Subject: Re: NW51SP4, Winsock & httpstk >> >> >>I tried pausing between nile & httpstk with no luck. Still getting: >> >>>Error acessing Winsock Services, ccdoe=0x32 >>>Server 5.00-1553 Module initialization failed. >>> >> >>Any other ideas? >> >> >> >> >>Rich Molettiere >>Technology Coordinator >>Omaha North High School >>"Technology is not a free lunch." >> >>>>> John Hanna 07/05/02 04:33PM >>> >>I spent several weeks chasing this one down, though the error message was >>not the same as you have put here. The fix is easy and worth >trying though. >> >>Move the load httpstk.nlm state further down in your autoexec.ncf. It is >>placed just under the load nile.nlm by default and if nile.nlm does not >>finish loading and initializing before httpstk.nlm is loaded after SP$ is >>installed, it cause mucho problems. >> >>If you want to test first to see if this is your problem, just put a pause >>between >>load nile.nlm >>load httpstk.nlm >> >>HTH, >>John >> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of >>>Rich Molettiere >>>Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 3:56 PM >>>To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU >>>Subject: NW51SP4, Winsock & httpstk >>> >>> >>>Upgraded a 5.1 to SP4. Upgrade went okay but on reboot httpstk >>>doesn't load. >>> >>>Error acessing Winsock Services, ccdoe=0x32 >>>Server 5.00-1553 Module initialization failed. >>> >>>Searched the KB with no luck, ideas? >>> >>>Rich Molettiere >>>Technology Coordinator >>>Omaha North High School >>>"Technology is not a free lunch." >>> >>> >> > From mdlaat at MUISNETWERKEN.NL Mon Jul 8 20:29:02 2002 From: mdlaat at MUISNETWERKEN.NL (Maurice de Laat) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:29:02 -0400 Subject: Multiple abends Arcserve 7 NW6 ASDB.NLM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020708192859.GC800@xs4all.nl> On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 11:04:46AM -0500, Mike DeWitt wrote: > Yes, I had two NW6SP1 boxes fully patched running Arcserve 7 that had > similar problems. > > Sometimes I would see soft abends, sometimes it would freeze the server. > ASDB was sometimes the culprit, other times the btrieve engine. > > The answer for me was to increase the memory available to btrieve via > the bti.cfg file. Both servers have been running error free for ~ 2 > months now. I couldn't get more than 2-3 days between reboots before > that change. Mike, is that the CacheSize parameter in the [Microkernel] section you mean, or something else? I might have the samen problem, therefor my interest. Thank you. -- Maurice de Laat From meaou at UFL.EDU Mon Jul 8 21:09:46 2002 From: meaou at UFL.EDU (Sommer Sharp) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:09:46 -0400 Subject: 4.11 to 5.1 AND tree shift Message-ID: I have a 4.11 server that is currently in my main production tree. I need to upgrade the server to 5.1 AND move it into the University's tree that is running NDS 8. My plan is to upgrade the server to 5.1, remove NDS, install NDS 8 and join the University's tree. Does this sound feasible? Is there a better way? Suggestions greatly appreciated. Sommer Sharp, Postmaster Systems Programmer College of Veterinary Medicine University of Florida 352-392-4700 From G.Ross at CCW.GOV.UK Mon Jul 8 21:15:39 2002 From: G.Ross at CCW.GOV.UK (Gordon Ross) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:15:39 -0400 Subject: 4.11 to 5.1 AND tree shift Message-ID: Your idea will work. However, two thoughts: 1) If you're going to blow away DS, why not take the chance to "clean" the machine by doing a fresh NW install, instead of an upgrade ? Fresh installs are usually less troublesome than upgrades. 2) Why not merge the two trees ? (Won't loose any trustee rights...) GTG Gordon Ross, Network Manager/Rheolwr Rhydwaith Countryside Council for Wales/Cyngor Cefn Gwlad Cymru >>> meaou at UFL.EDU 07/08/02 21:10 PM >>> I have a 4.11 server that is currently in my main production tree. I need to upgrade the server to 5.1 AND move it into the University's tree that is running NDS 8. My plan is to upgrade the server to 5.1, remove NDS, install NDS 8 and join the University's tree. Does this sound feasible? Is there a better way? From meaou at UFL.EDU Mon Jul 8 21:28:25 2002 From: meaou at UFL.EDU (Sommer Sharp) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:28:25 -0400 Subject: 4.11 to 5.1 AND tree shift Message-ID: If I do a fresh install, no prob with just copying the data back from a backup? Don't really want to have to recreate everything. Don't want to merge my tree with the Universities. But I need the computer lab's server/workstations part of the main tree. S. >>> G.Ross at CCW.GOV.UK 7/8/02 4:15:21 PM >>> Your idea will work. However, two thoughts: 1) If you're going to blow away DS, why not take the chance to "clean" the machine by doing a fresh NW install, instead of an upgrade ? Fresh installs are usually less troublesome than upgrades. 2) Why not merge the two trees ? (Won't loose any trustee rights...) GTG Gordon Ross, Network Manager/Rheolwr Rhydwaith Countryside Council for Wales/Cyngor Cefn Gwlad Cymru >>> meaou at UFL.EDU 07/08/02 21:10 PM >>> I have a 4.11 server that is currently in my main production tree. I need to upgrade the server to 5.1 AND move it into the University's tree that is running NDS 8. My plan is to upgrade the server to 5.1, remove NDS, install NDS 8 and join the University's tree. Does this sound feasible? Is there a better way? From JOliver at CHW.ORG Mon Jul 8 22:59:27 2002 From: JOliver at CHW.ORG (Oliver, Jason) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 17:59:27 -0400 Subject: 4.11 to 5.1 AND tree shift Message-ID: <26BD7395EF0AD2118219000000005C4F0B253046@chwnt1.chw.org> A couple more cents ....... :-) Restoring the data from tape will get you your data, but not maintain your trustee rights or file ownership. There are ways around this too, but it is easier to merge the trees as already suggested to maintain these attributes. The other way mentioned (and I the only one I can think of off-hand) is to use a utility like TBACKUP to a file and then recreate the DS users, then restore the rights after [bindery emulation might be needed depending on how you had it setup before]). Just my 2 cents..... Jason Oliver -----Original Message----- From: Sommer Sharp [mailto:meaou at UFL.EDU] Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 3:28 PM To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU Subject: Re: 4.11 to 5.1 AND tree shift If I do a fresh install, no prob with just copying the data back from a backup? Don't really want to have to recreate everything. Don't want to merge my tree with the Universities. But I need the computer lab's server/workstations part of the main tree. S. >>> G.Ross at CCW.GOV.UK 7/8/02 4:15:21 PM >>> Your idea will work. However, two thoughts: 1) If you're going to blow away DS, why not take the chance to "clean" the machine by doing a fresh NW install, instead of an upgrade ? Fresh installs are usually less troublesome than upgrades. 2) Why not merge the two trees ? (Won't loose any trustee rights...) GTG Gordon Ross, Network Manager/Rheolwr Rhydwaith Countryside Council for Wales/Cyngor Cefn Gwlad Cymru >>> meaou at UFL.EDU 07/08/02 21:10 PM >>> I have a 4.11 server that is currently in my main production tree. I need to upgrade the server to 5.1 AND move it into the University's tree that is running NDS 8. My plan is to upgrade the server to 5.1, remove NDS, install NDS 8 and join the University's tree. Does this sound feasible? Is there a better way? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://netlab1.usu.edu/pipermail/novell/attachments/20020708/03e79351/attachment.html From thaduke at ATTBI.COM Tue Jul 9 07:09:38 2002 From: thaduke at ATTBI.COM (Tha' Duke) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 02:09:38 -0400 Subject: Subject: HELP! Disable popup messages References: <20020708220011.GURI23554.rwcrgwc52.attbi.com@mailer.syr.edu> Message-ID: <000a01c2270f$3302cf10$6601a8c0@CENLANMOBILE> I'd do it by setting a line in the autoexec.ncf SET DISABLE BROADCAST NOTIFICATIONS PROCESS=ON I got this from a TID (don't remember which). Works with 5.x and up NW servers ----------------------- Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 02:09:38 -0400 From: Donna Raymond Subject: HELP! Disable popup messages I cannot for the life of me remember how to disable alerts from the server popping up as Netware message popups on users workstations. We are continually getting a nss volume almost out of disk space / or out of disk space message and everyone in the company is receiving it. I only want myself to receive these messages. Where do I configure this? I know how to disable the pop up for printing jobs- but not for alerts from the server. Any help woul be greatly appreciated! 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------=_NextPart_1036_74033335512274730072-- From dbphilos at RZ.UNI-DUESSELDORF.DE Tue Jul 9 11:09:41 2002 From: dbphilos at RZ.UNI-DUESSELDORF.DE (Hans Nellissen) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 06:09:41 -0400 Subject: HELP! Disable popup messages In-Reply-To: <3D29766C.4917.D5F1B6@localhost> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020709100748.01ef5ec0@mail.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de> At 11:24 08.07.2002 -0400, you wrote: Donna, >I cannot for the life of me remember how to disable alerts from the >server popping up as Netware message popups on users >workstations. We are continually getting a nss volume almost out >of disk space / or out of disk space message and everyone in the >company is receiving it. I only want myself to receive these Do it in login-script for all,except yourself: send /A=N >messages. Where do I configure this? I know how to disable the > >Donna Hans Nellissen ---------------------------------------------------------------- Heinrich-Heine-Universitaet Email:dbphilos at mail.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de Meinungsaeusserungen im vorliegenden Text stellen allein den Standpunkt des Autors dar und lassen keine Rueckschluesse auf seinen Arbeitgeber zu. Expressions of opinion in the available text represent only the point of view of the author and permit no conclusions on its employer. From mike at NETWORKIT-INC.COM Tue Jul 9 12:51:39 2002 From: mike at NETWORKIT-INC.COM (Mike DeWitt) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 07:51:39 -0400 Subject: Multiple abends Arcserve 7 NW6 ASDB.NLM Message-ID: Yes, CacheSize is the parameter I changed. Mike >>> Maurice de Laat 07/08/02 02:28PM >>> On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 11:04:46AM -0500, Mike DeWitt wrote: > Yes, I had two NW6SP1 boxes fully patched running Arcserve 7 that had > similar problems. > > Sometimes I would see soft abends, sometimes it would freeze the server. > ASDB was sometimes the culprit, other times the btrieve engine. > > The answer for me was to increase the memory available to btrieve via > the bti.cfg file. Both servers have been running error free for ~ 2 > months now. I couldn't get more than 2-3 days between reboots before > that change. Mike, is that the CacheSize parameter in the [Microkernel] section you mean, or something else? I might have the samen problem, therefor my interest. Thank you. -- Maurice de Laat From mike at NETWORKIT-INC.COM Tue Jul 9 12:57:13 2002 From: mike at NETWORKIT-INC.COM (Mike DeWitt) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 07:57:13 -0400 Subject: Arcserve 7 and NW 5.1 login failures Message-ID: Yes. And I experienced the same frustrations as you while looking for a solution. In the end, I could only get reliable backups of remote machines if I used the "extra" backup agent from CA. Curiously, this same configuration worked fine with Arcserve 6.6. Mike >>> t.cummins at COMPSERV.GLA.AC.UK 07/09/02 03:45AM >>> Guys, Anyone seen problems with Arcserve 7.0 whereby the backup user fails to login to the target server giving a E0144 "Failed to login" error ? I've searched the CAI website and was startled to find out that Arcserve 7 appears to make a bindery login request - i.e. every container in which a target server exists must have a local user with associated rights to backup. Isn't this a step backwards ?? I've created a backup user in every container that has a server to backup, I've assigned the necessary rights to the user, I've then set a bindery context for the container. Result ? Some servers backup OK - others give the error noted above, even though there appears to be no difference in te setup of the user and associated rights granted. I've about had it with Arcserve - I'm looking at Backup Exec for Netware v 9.0 - anyone got any tales of woe for this software before I migrate my backups ? In the meantime I'm getting partial backups with no clear indication why this should be ! Any info would be gratefully received, cheers, Tony Cummins Netware Team Glasgow University From John at COASTAL.EDU Tue Jul 9 14:14:30 2002 From: John at COASTAL.EDU (John Hanna) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 09:14:30 -0400 Subject: Unknown Traps Message-ID: I have a Compaq Proliant 6000 running nw5.1 Sp4 and I keep getting an unknown trap on my smnp station from this server. I have looked on the console screen and all other screens on the server and cannot find anything there that corresponds with what might be sending these traps. The unknown trap looks like this.... Trap #20 From OID 1.3.6.1.4.1.23.2.73 Anyone have any ideas? John Hanna Network Services Manager Coastal Carolina University PO Box 261954 Conway, SC 29528-6054 Phone:(843)349-2150 Fax: (843)349-2990 Email: John at coastal.edu From Patrick at SPM.ORG.ZA Tue Jul 9 14:18:05 2002 From: Patrick at SPM.ORG.ZA (Patrick Medhurst) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 09:18:05 -0400 Subject: Unknown Traps Message-ID: Novell OID's 1.3.6.1.4.1.23.2.73 usually relates to Licencing issues. http://www.alvestrand.no/objectid/1.3.6.1.4.1.23.html >>> John at COASTAL.EDU 07/09/02 03:13PM >>> I have a Compaq Proliant 6000 running nw5.1 Sp4 and I keep getting an unknown trap on my smnp station from this server. I have looked on the console screen and all other screens on the server and cannot find anything there that corresponds with what might be sending these traps. The unknown trap looks like this.... Trap #20 From OID 1.3.6.1.4.1.23.2.73 Anyone have any ideas? John Hanna Network Services Manager Coastal Carolina University PO Box 261954 Conway, SC 29528-6054 Phone:(843)349-2150 Fax: (843)349-2990 Email: John at coastal.edu From jas at DECNS.COM Tue Jul 9 15:28:37 2002 From: jas at DECNS.COM (Jerry Shenk) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:28:37 -0400 Subject: SSL certificate for IIS web server In-Reply-To: <000301c22439$da27ea60$5a6505ab@Mobster2> Message-ID: I can't figure out how to create a certificate that I can export. I'm sure this is pretty simple. I have Console One running with the snapings and the NICI so I think I have all the pieces but I'm not sure how to configure the certificate. -----Original Message----- From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of Mobeen Azhar Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 11:37 AM To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU Subject: Re: SSL certificate for IIS web server It works fine. Done it a number of times. --Moby -----Original Message----- From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Jerry Shenk Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 7:00 AM To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU Subject: SSL certificate for IIS web server I would like to be able to create an SSL certificate for an IIS web server using my Novell CA. Can that be done? I searched through a bunch of stuff and it seems like in theory it should work but I wonder if anybody has any personal experience related to this. From rmoletti at OPS.ORG Tue Jul 9 16:34:30 2002 From: rmoletti at OPS.ORG (Molettiere, Rich) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:34:30 -0400 Subject: NW51SP4, Winsock & httpstk Message-ID: Haven't seen my most recent post (Exchange is my 'relay' mail system and has been problematic lately), so let me update you. NORTH11 won't load httpstk. It is a intranet webserver, nothing else runs on it. The failure to load occurred after a problematic update of nw51sp4 (server abended during the update but did complete on the 2nd try). Error on launching httpstk is: >>>Error acessing Winsock Services, ccdoe=0x32 >>>Server 5.00-1553 Module initialization failed. After reading the May 2002 AppNote on Novell's Security Infrastructure (good article), I noticed that there wasn't a CertificateDNS or CertificateIP. So I'm leaning towards a problem in this area. I'm about ready to remove the server, rebuild it and restore from tape thinking that a fresh install might be an easier way to correct whatever the problem is - thoughts? Rich Molettiere Technology Coordinator Omaha North High School "Technology is not a free lunch." >>> John Hanna 07/08/02 01:23PM >>> Hum, What apps are your running? I usually run choice #2. It links sas objects and KMOs. I haven't had to rekey any apps after doing it, but all I am running is Novell Apps. >-----Original Message----- >From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of >Molettiere, Rich >Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 1:24 PM >To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU >Subject: Re: NW51SP4, Winsock & httpstk > > >Forget the "blank screen" reported below - I wasn't running it on the CA >server. > >Question - pkidiag has found an error and I now have three options > >1. Do nothing >2. Rename the SSL certificate and create a new one (Apps may need to be >reconfigured) >3. ReKey the SSL CertificateDNS (This means the old keys will be >destroyed!) > >Is the better choice #3? I understand the old keys are destroyed but does >it >link everything up? Or should I take a chance with #2 and hope >that my apps >won't have to be rekeyed. > > > >Some days it would be better to stay home... > >Tried running pkidiag and I only get a blank screen with the cursor in the >upper-left corner of the screen. Stits there for 15 minutes but >will unload >from the system console. > >Rich Molettiere >Technology Coordinator >Omaha North High School >"Technology is not a free lunch." > >>>> John Hanna 07/08/02 08:47AM >>> >Try running the latest copy of pkidiag.nlm and see if there are >any problems >with your KMOs. I had to do that on one of my servers. > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of >>Molettiere, Rich >>Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 8:12 AM >>To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU >>Subject: Re: NW51SP4, Winsock & httpstk >> >> >>I tried pausing between nile & httpstk with no luck. Still getting: >> >>>Error acessing Winsock Services, ccdoe=0x32 >>>Server 5.00-1553 Module initialization failed. >>> >> >>Any other ideas? >> >> >> >> >>Rich Molettiere >>Technology Coordinator >>Omaha North High School >>"Technology is not a free lunch." >> >>>>> John Hanna 07/05/02 04:33PM >>> >>I spent several weeks chasing this one down, though the error message was >>not the same as you have put here. The fix is easy and worth >trying though. >> >>Move the load httpstk.nlm state further down in your autoexec.ncf. It is >>placed just under the load nile.nlm by default and if nile.nlm does not >>finish loading and initializing before httpstk.nlm is loaded after SP$ is >>installed, it cause mucho problems. >> >>If you want to test first to see if this is your problem, just put a pause >>between >>load nile.nlm >>load httpstk.nlm >> >>HTH, >>John >> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of >>>Rich Molettiere >>>Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 3:56 PM >>>To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU >>>Subject: NW51SP4, Winsock & httpstk >>> >>> >>>Upgraded a 5.1 to SP4. Upgrade went okay but on reboot httpstk >>>doesn't load. >>> >>>Error acessing Winsock Services, ccdoe=0x32 >>>Server 5.00-1553 Module initialization failed. >>> >>>Searched the KB with no luck, ideas? >>> >>>Rich Molettiere >>>Technology Coordinator >>>Omaha North High School >>>"Technology is not a free lunch." >>> >>> >> > From JRD at CC.USU.EDU Tue Jul 9 16:47:01 2002 From: JRD at CC.USU.EDU (Joe Doupnik) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:47:01 -0400 Subject: NW51SP4, Winsock & httpstk Message-ID: <01KJVXF3C42QADCB8U@cc.usu.edu> >Haven't seen my most recent post (Exchange is my 'relay' mail system and has >been problematic lately), so let me update you. > >NORTH11 won't load httpstk. It is a intranet webserver, nothing else runs >on >it. The failure to load occurred after a problematic update of nw51sp4 >(server abended during the update but did complete on the 2nd try). > >Error on launching httpstk is: > >>>>Error acessing Winsock Services, ccdoe=0x32 >>>>Server 5.00-1553 Module initialization failed. > >After reading the May 2002 AppNote on Novell's Security Infrastructure (good >article), I noticed that there wasn't a CertificateDNS or CertificateIP. So >I'm leaning towards a problem in this area. I'm about ready to remove the >server, rebuild it and restore from tape thinking that a fresh install might >be an easier way to correct whatever the problem is - thoughts? > >Rich Molettiere >Technology Coordinator >Omaha North High School >"Technology is not a free lunch." ----- If you feel brave then you might wish to try SP 5 for NW 5.1 which is in public beta at this time (download from Novell's web server, try http://beta.novell.com/ public beta. A cert server is a near necessity these days. Joe D. >>> John Hanna 07/08/02 01:23PM >>> Hum, What apps are your running? I usually run choice #2. It links sas objects and KMOs. I haven't had to rekey any apps after doing it, but all I am running is Novell Apps. >-----Original Message----- >From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of >Molettiere, Rich >Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 1:24 PM >To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU >Subject: Re: NW51SP4, Winsock & httpstk > > >Forget the "blank screen" reported below - I wasn't running it on the CA >server. > >Question - pkidiag has found an error and I now have three options > >1. Do nothing >2. Rename the SSL certificate and create a new one (Apps may need to be >reconfigured) >3. ReKey the SSL CertificateDNS (This means the old keys will be >destroyed!) > >Is the better choice #3? I understand the old keys are destroyed but does >it >link everything up? Or should I take a chance with #2 and hope >that my apps >won't have to be rekeyed. > > > >Some days it would be better to stay home... > >Tried running pkidiag and I only get a blank screen with the cursor in the >upper-left corner of the screen. Stits there for 15 minutes but >will unload >from the system console. > >Rich Molettiere >Technology Coordinator >Omaha North High School >"Technology is not a free lunch." > >>>> John Hanna 07/08/02 08:47AM >>> >Try running the latest copy of pkidiag.nlm and see if there are >any problems >with your KMOs. I had to do that on one of my servers. > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of >>Molettiere, Rich >>Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 8:12 AM >>To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU >>Subject: Re: NW51SP4, Winsock & httpstk >> >> >>I tried pausing between nile & httpstk with no luck. Still getting: >> >>>Error acessing Winsock Services, ccdoe=0x32 >>>Server 5.00-1553 Module initialization failed. >>> >> >>Any other ideas? >> >> >> >> >>Rich Molettiere >>Technology Coordinator >>Omaha North High School >>"Technology is not a free lunch." >> >>>>> John Hanna 07/05/02 04:33PM >>> >>I spent several weeks chasing this one down, though the error message was >>not the same as you have put here. The fix is easy and worth >trying though. >> >>Move the load httpstk.nlm state further down in your autoexec.ncf. It is >>placed just under the load nile.nlm by default and if nile.nlm does not >>finish loading and initializing before httpstk.nlm is loaded after SP$ is >>installed, it cause mucho problems. >> >>If you want to test first to see if this is your problem, just put a pause >>between >>load nile.nlm >>load httpstk.nlm >> >>HTH, >>John >> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of >>>Rich Molettiere >>>Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 3:56 PM >>>To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU >>>Subject: NW51SP4, Winsock & httpstk >>> >>> >>>Upgraded a 5.1 to SP4. Upgrade went okay but on reboot httpstk >>>doesn't load. >>> >>>Error acessing Winsock Services, ccdoe=0x32 >>>Server 5.00-1553 Module initialization failed. >>> >>>Searched the KB with no luck, ideas? >>> >>>Rich Molettiere >>>Technology Coordinator >>>Omaha North High School >>>"Technology is not a free lunch." >>> >>> >> > From prandal at HEREFORDSHIRE.GOV.UK Tue Jul 9 16:50:16 2002 From: prandal at HEREFORDSHIRE.GOV.UK (Randal, Phil) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:50:16 -0400 Subject: NW51SP4, Winsock & httpstk Message-ID: The beta SP5 has the dodgy nwaspi.cdm v3.22, so I'd backrev that to V3.21 before applying. It also lacks the file from NWPMFIX.EXE (just copy it in to the right place). Looks good here. Phil --------------------------------------------- Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Doupnik [mailto:JRD at CC.USU.EDU] > Sent: 09 July 2002 17:47 > To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU > Subject: Re: NW51SP4, Winsock & httpstk > > > >Haven't seen my most recent post (Exchange is my 'relay' > mail system and has > >been problematic lately), so let me update you. > > > >NORTH11 won't load httpstk. It is a intranet webserver, > nothing else runs > >on > >it. The failure to load occurred after a problematic update > of nw51sp4 > >(server abended during the update but did complete on the 2nd try). > > > >Error on launching httpstk is: > > > >>>>Error acessing Winsock Services, ccdoe=0x32 > >>>>Server 5.00-1553 Module initialization failed. > > > >After reading the May 2002 AppNote on Novell's Security > Infrastructure (good > >article), I noticed that there wasn't a CertificateDNS or > CertificateIP. So > >I'm leaning towards a problem in this area. I'm about ready > to remove the > >server, rebuild it and restore from tape thinking that a > fresh install might > >be an easier way to correct whatever the problem is - thoughts? > > > >Rich Molettiere > >Technology Coordinator > >Omaha North High School > >"Technology is not a free lunch." > ----- > If you feel brave then you might wish to try SP 5 for > NW 5.1 which > is in public beta at this time (download from Novell's web server, try > http://beta.novell.com/ > public beta. > A cert server is a near necessity these days. > Joe D. > >>> John Hanna 07/08/02 01:23PM >>> > Hum, What apps are your running? I usually run choice #2. > It links sas > objects and KMOs. I haven't had to rekey any apps after > doing it, but all I > am running is Novell Apps. > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Novell LAN Interest Group > [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of > >Molettiere, Rich > >Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 1:24 PM > >To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU > >Subject: Re: NW51SP4, Winsock & httpstk > > > > > >Forget the "blank screen" reported below - I wasn't running > it on the CA > >server. > > > >Question - pkidiag has found an error and I now have three options > > > >1. Do nothing > >2. Rename the SSL certificate and create a new one (Apps may > need to be > >reconfigured) > >3. ReKey the SSL CertificateDNS (This means the old keys will be > >destroyed!) > > > >Is the better choice #3? I understand the old keys are > destroyed but does > >it > >link everything up? Or should I take a chance with #2 and hope > >that my apps > >won't have to be rekeyed. > > > > > > > >Some days it would be better to stay home... > > > >Tried running pkidiag and I only get a blank screen with the > cursor in the > >upper-left corner of the screen. Stits there for 15 minutes but > >will unload > >from the system console. > > > >Rich Molettiere > >Technology Coordinator > >Omaha North High School > >"Technology is not a free lunch." > > > >>>> John Hanna 07/08/02 08:47AM >>> > >Try running the latest copy of pkidiag.nlm and see if there are > >any problems > >with your KMOs. I had to do that on one of my servers. > > > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: Novell LAN Interest Group > [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of > >>Molettiere, Rich > >>Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 8:12 AM > >>To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU > >>Subject: Re: NW51SP4, Winsock & httpstk > >> > >> > >>I tried pausing between nile & httpstk with no luck. Still getting: > >> > >>>Error acessing Winsock Services, ccdoe=0x32 > >>>Server 5.00-1553 Module initialization failed. > >>> > >> > >>Any other ideas? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>Rich Molettiere > >>Technology Coordinator > >>Omaha North High School > >>"Technology is not a free lunch." > >> > >>>>> John Hanna 07/05/02 04:33PM >>> > >>I spent several weeks chasing this one down, though the > error message was > >>not the same as you have put here. The fix is easy and worth > >trying though. > >> > >>Move the load httpstk.nlm state further down in your > autoexec.ncf. It is > >>placed just under the load nile.nlm by default and if > nile.nlm does not > >>finish loading and initializing before httpstk.nlm is > loaded after SP$ is > >>installed, it cause mucho problems. > >> > >>If you want to test first to see if this is your problem, > just put a pause > >>between > >>load nile.nlm > >>load httpstk.nlm > >> > >>HTH, > >>John > >> > >>>-----Original Message----- > >>>From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of >>>Rich Molettiere >>>Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 3:56 PM >>>To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU >>>Subject: NW51SP4, Winsock & httpstk >>> >>> >>>Upgraded a 5.1 to SP4. Upgrade went okay but on reboot httpstk >>>doesn't load. >>> >>>Error acessing Winsock Services, ccdoe=0x32 >>>Server 5.00-1553 Module initialization failed. >>> >>>Searched the KB with no luck, ideas? >>> >>>Rich Molettiere >>>Technology Coordinator >>>Omaha North High School >>>"Technology is not a free lunch." >>> >>> >> > From sconnell at DIPIX.COM Tue Jul 9 17:07:48 2002 From: sconnell at DIPIX.COM (Shawn Connelly) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 12:07:48 -0400 Subject: Losing network printers - Windows 2000 Message-ID: Before approaching the group, I search both the MS and Novell knowledge bases and found nothing related to my specific problem. You folks are my last resort... :-) Key info: OS Windows 2000 (all patches up to date), Novell Client 32 v4.81. All printers connected through Novell 5.0, SP 6a On two laptops (Compaq Armada M700's), I have clients suddenly experiencing a reoccurring problem (one is on a daily bases - at boot up every morning, the other occurs only occasionally). The problem is that [on boot up] printer network assignments are lost, the printers are installed and visible but the client cannot print to ANY of the assigned networked printers. Upon further investigation, I've found that when this problem occurs, the network printer port assignment(s) (under printer properties) are missing. All that appears are the standard LPT, COM, IR unassigned defaults. Furthermore, if I add a printer, the browse network selection is missing the Netware Networks option. Rather, only the Microsoft Network and NDPS printer options are visible. Currently, printers are assigned through traditional Novell queues, not NDPS. So far, the only solution is to re-boot but obviously this is not an acceptable long-term solution. Reinstalling network printer assignments and the Novell client did not help. Any thoughts? Thank you, Shawn ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Shawn Connelly, Network Engineer. Dipix Technologies Inc. From JRD at CC.USU.EDU Tue Jul 9 17:10:28 2002 From: JRD at CC.USU.EDU (Joe Doupnik) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 12:10:28 -0400 Subject: Losing network printers - Windows 2000 Message-ID: <01KJVY9W2RC2ADCB9W@cc.usu.edu> >Before approaching the group, I search both the MS and Novell knowledge >bases and found nothing related to my specific problem. > >You folks are my last resort... :-) > >Key info: OS Windows 2000 (all patches up to date), Novell Client 32 v4.81. The current C32 for NT is version 4.83, with patches. Please try this first because losing printers is a known problem. Joe D. From John at COASTAL.EDU Tue Jul 9 18:02:25 2002 From: John at COASTAL.EDU (John Hanna) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 13:02:25 -0400 Subject: NW51SP4, Winsock & httpstk In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Rich, Did PKIDiag.nlm not create the KMOs (CertificateDNS and CertificateIP) and link them for you? >-----Original Message----- >From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of >Molettiere, Rich >Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 11:33 AM >To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU >Subject: Re: NW51SP4, Winsock & httpstk > > >Haven't seen my most recent post (Exchange is my 'relay' mail >system and has >been problematic lately), so let me update you. > >NORTH11 won't load httpstk. It is a intranet webserver, nothing else runs >on >it. The failure to load occurred after a problematic update of nw51sp4 >(server abended during the update but did complete on the 2nd try). > >Error on launching httpstk is: > >>>>Error acessing Winsock Services, ccdoe=0x32 >>>>Server 5.00-1553 Module initialization failed. > >After reading the May 2002 AppNote on Novell's Security >Infrastructure (good >article), I noticed that there wasn't a CertificateDNS or >CertificateIP. So >I'm leaning towards a problem in this area. I'm about ready to remove the >server, rebuild it and restore from tape thinking that a fresh >install might >be an easier way to correct whatever the problem is - thoughts? > >Rich Molettiere >Technology Coordinator >Omaha North High School >"Technology is not a free lunch." > >>>> John Hanna 07/08/02 01:23PM >>> >Hum, What apps are your running? I usually run choice #2. It links sas >objects and KMOs. I haven't had to rekey any apps after doing it, >but all I >am running is Novell Apps. > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of >>Molettiere, Rich >>Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 1:24 PM >>To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU >>Subject: Re: NW51SP4, Winsock & httpstk >> >> >>Forget the "blank screen" reported below - I wasn't running it on the CA >>server. >> >>Question - pkidiag has found an error and I now have three options >> >>1. Do nothing >>2. Rename the SSL certificate and create a new one (Apps may need to be >>reconfigured) >>3. ReKey the SSL CertificateDNS (This means the old keys will be >>destroyed!) >> >>Is the better choice #3? I understand the old keys are destroyed but does >>it >>link everything up? Or should I take a chance with #2 and hope >>that my apps >>won't have to be rekeyed. >> >> >> >>Some days it would be better to stay home... >> >>Tried running pkidiag and I only get a blank screen with the cursor in the >>upper-left corner of the screen. Stits there for 15 minutes but >>will unload >>from the system console. >> >>Rich Molettiere >>Technology Coordinator >>Omaha North High School >>"Technology is not a free lunch." >> >>>>> John Hanna 07/08/02 08:47AM >>> >>Try running the latest copy of pkidiag.nlm and see if there are >>any problems >>with your KMOs. I had to do that on one of my servers. >> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of >>>Molettiere, Rich >>>Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 8:12 AM >>>To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU >>>Subject: Re: NW51SP4, Winsock & httpstk >>> >>> >>>I tried pausing between nile & httpstk with no luck. Still getting: >>> >>>>Error acessing Winsock Services, ccdoe=0x32 >>>>Server 5.00-1553 Module initialization failed. >>>> >>> >>>Any other ideas? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>Rich Molettiere >>>Technology Coordinator >>>Omaha North High School >>>"Technology is not a free lunch." >>> >>>>>> John Hanna 07/05/02 04:33PM >>> >>>I spent several weeks chasing this one down, though the error message was >>>not the same as you have put here. The fix is easy and worth >>trying though. >>> >>>Move the load httpstk.nlm state further down in your autoexec.ncf. It is >>>placed just under the load nile.nlm by default and if nile.nlm does not >>>finish loading and initializing before httpstk.nlm is loaded after SP$ is >>>installed, it cause mucho problems. >>> >>>If you want to test first to see if this is your problem, just >put a pause >>>between >>>load nile.nlm >>>load httpstk.nlm >>> >>>HTH, >>>John >>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of >>>>Rich Molettiere >>>>Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 3:56 PM >>>>To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU >>>>Subject: NW51SP4, Winsock & httpstk >>>> >>>> >>>>Upgraded a 5.1 to SP4. Upgrade went okay but on reboot httpstk >>>>doesn't load. >>>> >>>>Error acessing Winsock Services, ccdoe=0x32 >>>>Server 5.00-1553 Module initialization failed. >>>> >>>>Searched the KB with no luck, ideas? >>>> >>>>Rich Molettiere >>>>Technology Coordinator >>>>Omaha North High School >>>>"Technology is not a free lunch." >>>> >>>> >>> >> > From John at COASTAL.EDU Tue Jul 9 18:05:00 2002 From: John at COASTAL.EDU (John Hanna) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 13:05:00 -0400 Subject: Unknown Traps In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Any ideas on why I would be getting traps related to licenses when the console is not showing any problems with license? How can I find the cause of any license issues? >-----Original Message----- >From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of >Patrick Medhurst >Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:17 AM >To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU >Subject: Re: Unknown Traps > > >Novell OID's 1.3.6.1.4.1.23.2.73 usually relates to Licencing issues. >http://www.alvestrand.no/objectid/1.3.6.1.4.1.23.html > > >>>> John at COASTAL.EDU 07/09/02 03:13PM >>> >I have a Compaq Proliant 6000 running nw5.1 Sp4 and I keep getting an >unknown trap on my smnp station from this server. I have looked on >the >console screen and all other screens on the server and cannot find >anything >there that corresponds with what might be sending these traps. The >unknown >trap looks like this.... >Trap #20 From OID 1.3.6.1.4.1.23.2.73 > >Anyone have any ideas? > >John Hanna >Network Services Manager >Coastal Carolina University >PO Box 261954 >Conway, SC 29528-6054 >Phone:(843)349-2150 Fax: (843)349-2990 >Email: John at coastal.edu > From larry_burd at COMPUSERVE.COM Tue Jul 9 18:20:01 2002 From: larry_burd at COMPUSERVE.COM (Larry Burd) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 13:20:01 -0400 Subject: HTML in digest Message-ID: <200207091319_MC3-1-5BA-AA3E@compuserve.com> is there a way to keep the HTML garbage out of the digest?? thx Larry From markperl at EARTHLINK.NET Tue Jul 9 18:55:55 2002 From: markperl at EARTHLINK.NET (Mark Perlstein) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 13:55:55 -0400 Subject: HTML in digest Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020709104723.009fad30@mail.earthlink.net> -------------Send "set--novell--nohtml" to LISTSERV at LSV.SYR.EDU Remove the quotes and dashes from the above. Had to include them to get through the listserv. At 01:19 PM 7/9/02 -0400, you wrote: is there a way to keep the HTML garbage out of the digest?? thx Larry From Mike at PROJECT-MGMT.COM Tue Jul 9 20:10:04 2002 From: Mike at PROJECT-MGMT.COM (Michael Roth) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 15:10:04 -0400 Subject: Unknown Traps Message-ID: <1026241797.725Mike@project-mgmt.com> Trap definitions are contained in their associated MIB files (this is basic SNMP stuff). The MIB file for the licensing service is SYS:ETC\NLSALARM.MIB, if you open this with notepad you will find the definitions, here's the one for trap 20: lsUpdateBadHandle TRAP-TYPE ENTERPRISE nlstrap-mib VARIABLES { serverName, trapTime, appName, userName, networkAddress, macAddress } DESCRIPTION "NetWare License Server: LSUpdate failed due to invalid licensing handle." --#TYPE "NLS: Update failed - invalid licensing handle" --#SUMMARY "A license update for %s by %s at %x:%x failed, license handle did" --#SUMMARY " not indicate a currently valid licensing handle." --#ARGUMENTS {2,3,4,5} --#SEVERITY MINOR --#TIMEINDEX 1 --#STATE OPERATIONAL ::= 20 HTH Mike > Any ideas on why I would be getting traps related to licenses when the > console is not showing any problems with license? How can I find the cause > of any license issues? > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of > >Patrick Medhurst > >Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:17 AM > >To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU > >Subject: Re: Unknown Traps > > > > > >Novell OID's 1.3.6.1.4.1.23.2.73 usually relates to Licencing issues. > >http://www.alvestrand.no/objectid/1.3.6.1.4.1.23.html > > > > > >>>> John at COASTAL.EDU 07/09/02 03:13PM >>> > >I have a Compaq Proliant 6000 running nw5.1 Sp4 and I keep getting an > >unknown trap on my smnp station from this server. I have looked on > >the > >console screen and all other screens on the server and cannot find > >anything > >there that corresponds with what might be sending these traps. The > >unknown > >trap looks like this.... > >Trap #20 From OID 1.3.6.1.4.1.23.2.73 > > > >Anyone have any ideas? > > > >John Hanna > >Network Services Manager > >Coastal Carolina University > >PO Box 261954 > >Conway, SC 29528-6054 > >Phone:(843)349-2150 Fax: (843)349-2990 > >Email: John at coastal.edu > > > From btoulou at XN-TECH.COM Tue Jul 9 20:48:00 2002 From: btoulou at XN-TECH.COM (Brady Toulou) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 15:48:00 -0400 Subject: Arcserve 7 and NW 5.1 login failures Message-ID: We too were looking to change our Arcserve (currently 6.6) to BE 9.0 until I found out that BE 9.0 for Netware will not backup any open files (nor has any backup agents) for any server other than netware. A BE engineer told me this. However, the NT version has backup agents for Netware. Brady On Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:01:19 -0500, Mike DeWitt wrote: >Yes. And I experienced the same frustrations as you while looking for a >solution. > >In the end, I could only get reliable backups of remote machines if I >used the "extra" backup agent from CA. Curiously, this same >configuration worked fine with Arcserve 6.6. > >Mike > >>>> t.cummins at COMPSERV.GLA.AC.UK 07/09/02 03:45AM >>> >Guys, > >Anyone seen problems with Arcserve 7.0 whereby the backup user fails to >login to the target server giving a E0144 "Failed to login" error ? > >I've searched the CAI website and was startled to find out that >Arcserve 7 appears to make a bindery login request - i.e. every >container in which a target server exists must have a local user with >associated rights to backup. Isn't this a step backwards ?? I've created >a backup user in every container that has a server to backup, I've >assigned the necessary rights to the user, I've then set a bindery >context for the container. Result ? Some servers backup OK - others give >the error noted above, even though there appears to be no difference in >te setup of the user and associated rights granted. > >I've about had it with Arcserve - I'm looking at Backup Exec for >Netware v 9.0 - anyone got any tales of woe for this software before I >migrate my backups ? In the meantime I'm getting partial backups with no >clear indication why this should be ! > >Any info would be gratefully received, > >cheers, > >Tony Cummins > >Netware Team >Glasgow University From ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU Tue Jul 9 20:48:26 2002 From: ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU (Joe Acquisto) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 15:48:26 -0400 Subject: cifs login Message-ID: Well, I give up. NW6, sp2, nici 2.4.0. Cannot get logged into the box using the windows client. get "incorrect password or unknown user name for \\server_w" (the default name). There are no intruder attempts logged. Seems to have something to do with not being able to setup "simple password" properly. Authorized login methods show only NDS, lsmafp, lsmcifs. login polices shows same. Tids imply should see "simplepassword" For user, can select only NDS, simple password - "this feature is not available on this platform". I'm having fun. ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin, 1755 --------------------------------------------------- From JRD at CC.USU.EDU Tue Jul 9 20:52:17 2002 From: JRD at CC.USU.EDU (Joe Doupnik) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 15:52:17 -0400 Subject: cifs login Message-ID: <01KJW5XJTWAAADCBH1@cc.usu.edu> >Well, I give up. > >NW6, sp2, nici 2.4.0. > >Cannot get logged into the box using the windows client. get >"incorrect password or unknown user name for \\server_w" (the default >name). ------ SP2 relieves the restriction to use the default CIFS name. Use whatever you want, 14 chars max to obey NETBios rules. Use ConsoleOne, pick a user, login area, see the simple password menu. Similarly, Remote Manager, NFAP area, ditto. Windows username and NDS username must match. Joe D. From ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU Tue Jul 9 21:14:25 2002 From: ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU (Joe Acquisto) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 16:14:25 -0400 Subject: cifs login Message-ID: >>Well, I give up. >> >>NW6, sp2, nici 2.4.0. >> >>Cannot get logged into the box using the windows client. get >>"incorrect password or unknown user name for \\server_w" (the >default >>name). >------ > SP2 relieves the restriction to use the default CIFS name. >Use whatever you want, 14 chars max to obey NETBios rules. > Use ConsoleOne, pick a user, login area, see the simple >password menu. Similarly, Remote Manager, NFAP area, ditto. > Windows username and NDS username must match. > Joe D. Maybe end of long day. Don't get what you are saying. I will check the sp2 readme also. I don't get "default CIFS name". NDS user name is same thing? User object "Login" tab shows NDS and Simple password. Cannot select latter, give the "not available" message. No "menu" is visible. joea/ From JRD at CC.USU.EDU Tue Jul 9 21:39:41 2002 From: JRD at CC.USU.EDU (Joe Doupnik) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 16:39:41 -0400 Subject: cifs login Message-ID: <01KJW7I1DG9UADCBIR@cc.usu.edu> >>>Well, I give up. >>> >>>NW6, sp2, nici 2.4.0. >>> >>>Cannot get logged into the box using the windows client. get >>>"incorrect password or unknown user name for \\server_w" (the >>default >>>name). >>------ >> SP2 relieves the restriction to use the default CIFS name. >>Use whatever you want, 14 chars max to obey NETBios rules. >> Use ConsoleOne, pick a user, login area, see the simple >>password menu. Similarly, Remote Manager, NFAP area, ditto. >> Windows username and NDS username must match. >> Joe D. > >Maybe end of long day. Don't get what you are saying. I will check >the sp2 readme also. > >I don't get "default CIFS name". NDS user name is same thing? >User object "Login" tab shows NDS and Simple password. Cannot select >latter, give the "not available" message. No "menu" is visible. > >joea/ ------- The tactic is very simple. Windows uses MS client software, which supplies the Windows username and the encrypted (sic, MS style) Windows password. NDS hears them, looks up the username (so must be the same as the NDS username) finds the encrypted simple password, compares these two encrypted versions. CIFS default name is the name the server uses to advertize itself to clients. Please do read the docs, or simpler, just run ConsoleOne. NW is told the plaintext version of the Windows password, encrypts it the same way as Windows, keeps that encrypted form in NDS. Decryption runs into legal problems. We do the telling, via C1 or Remote Manager. Beware, CIFS can be told to hand the credentials to an NT server for checking, so tell the CIFS configuration via C1 to do what you want it to do. Strtcifs.ncf, stopcifs.ncf Otherwise you likely did something wrong during NW installation. Joe D. From JRD at CC.USU.EDU Tue Jul 9 21:42:25 2002 From: JRD at CC.USU.EDU (Joe Doupnik) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 16:42:25 -0400 Subject: cifs login Message-ID: <01KJW7RI7IOOADCBIR@cc.usu.edu> Amplification: CIFS "default" name is the braindead spelling chosen during installation of CIFS. With SP2 you can chose a proper spelling. Joe D. From John at COASTAL.EDU Tue Jul 9 21:58:13 2002 From: John at COASTAL.EDU (John Hanna) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 16:58:13 -0400 Subject: Unknown Traps In-Reply-To: <1026241797.725Mike@project-mgmt.com> Message-ID: Is there a utility for configuring the trap destination, alert level to send, etc.? I have looked high and low and cannot find how to set this information. I know I must have done it at sometime in the past, because these traps are going to my SNMP station. The only thing I can find in regards to snmp is the "load snmp.nlm " line in the autoexec.ncf >-----Original Message----- >From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of >Michael Roth >Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 3:10 PM >To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU >Subject: Re: Unknown Traps > > >Trap definitions are contained in their associated MIB files >(this is basic SNMP stuff). The MIB file for the licensing >service is SYS:ETC\NLSALARM.MIB, if you open this with >notepad you will find the definitions, here's the one for >trap 20: > >lsUpdateBadHandle > TRAP-TYPE > ENTERPRISE nlstrap-mib > VARIABLES { serverName, trapTime, > appName, userName, > networkAddress, macAddress } > DESCRIPTION "NetWare License Server: > LSUpdate failed due to > invalid licensing handle." > --#TYPE "NLS: Update failed - invalid > licensing handle" > --#SUMMARY "A license update for %s by %s at > %x:%x failed, license handle did" > --#SUMMARY " not indicate a currently valid > licensing handle." > --#ARGUMENTS {2,3,4,5} > --#SEVERITY MINOR > --#TIMEINDEX 1 > --#STATE OPERATIONAL > ::= 20 > >HTH >Mike > >> Any ideas on why I would be getting traps related to >licenses when the >> console is not showing any problems with license? How can >I find the cause >> of any license issues? >> >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: Novell LAN Interest Group >[mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of >> >Patrick Medhurst >> >Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:17 AM >> >To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU >> >Subject: Re: Unknown Traps >> > >> > >> >Novell OID's 1.3.6.1.4.1.23.2.73 usually relates to >Licencing issues. >> >http://www.alvestrand.no/objectid/1.3.6.1.4.1.23.html >> > >> > >> >>>> John at COASTAL.EDU 07/09/02 03:13PM >>> >> >I have a Compaq Proliant 6000 running nw5.1 Sp4 and I >keep getting an >> >unknown trap on my smnp station from this server. I have >looked on >> >the >> >console screen and all other screens on the server and >cannot find >> >anything >> >there that corresponds with what might be sending these >traps. The >> >unknown >> >trap looks like this.... >> >Trap #20 From OID 1.3.6.1.4.1.23.2.73 >> > >> >Anyone have any ideas? >> > >> >John Hanna >> >Network Services Manager >> >Coastal Carolina University >> >PO Box 261954 >> >Conway, SC 29528-6054 >> >Phone:(843)349-2150 Fax: (843)349-2990 >> >Email: John at coastal.edu >> > >> > From mike at PROJECT-MGMT.COM Tue Jul 9 23:55:47 2002 From: mike at PROJECT-MGMT.COM (Michael Roth) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:55:47 -0400 Subject: Unknown Traps References: Message-ID: <3D2B69EF.3020301@project-mgmt.com> Trap destination is in traptarg.cfg and the instructions for controlling the licensing traps is located in nlstrap.cfg. Additionally, check out nwtrap.cfg for generic server traps. Mike John Hanna wrote: > Is there a utility for configuring the trap destination, alert level to send, etc.? I have looked high and low and cannot find how to set this information. I know I must have done it at sometime in the past, because these traps are going to my SNMP station. The only thing I can find in regards to snmp is the "load snmp.nlm " line in the autoexec.ncf > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of >>Michael Roth >>Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 3:10 PM >>To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU >>Subject: Re: Unknown Traps >> >> >>Trap definitions are contained in their associated MIB files >>(this is basic SNMP stuff). The MIB file for the licensing >>service is SYS:ETC\NLSALARM.MIB, if you open this with >>notepad you will find the definitions, here's the one for >>trap 20: >> >>lsUpdateBadHandle >> TRAP-TYPE >> ENTERPRISE nlstrap-mib >> VARIABLES { serverName, trapTime, >> appName, userName, >> networkAddress, macAddress } >> DESCRIPTION "NetWare License Server: >> LSUpdate failed due to >> invalid licensing handle." >> --#TYPE "NLS: Update failed - invalid >> licensing handle" >> --#SUMMARY "A license update for %s by %s at >> %x:%x failed, license handle did" >> --#SUMMARY " not indicate a currently valid >> licensing handle." >> --#ARGUMENTS {2,3,4,5} >> --#SEVERITY MINOR >> --#TIMEINDEX 1 >> --#STATE OPERATIONAL >> ::= 20 >> >>HTH >>Mike >> >> >>>Any ideas on why I would be getting traps related to >> >>licenses when the >> >>>console is not showing any problems with license? How can >> >>I find the cause >> >>>of any license issues? >>> >>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: Novell LAN Interest Group >>> >>[mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of >> >>>>Patrick Medhurst >>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:17 AM >>>>To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU >>>>Subject: Re: Unknown Traps >>>> >>>> >>>>Novell OID's 1.3.6.1.4.1.23.2.73 usually relates to >>> >>Licencing issues. >> >>>>http://www.alvestrand.no/objectid/1.3.6.1.4.1.23.html >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>John at COASTAL.EDU 07/09/02 03:13PM >>> >>>>>> >>>>I have a Compaq Proliant 6000 running nw5.1 Sp4 and I >>> >>keep getting an >> >>>>unknown trap on my smnp station from this server. I have >>> >>looked on >> >>>>the >>>>console screen and all other screens on the server and >>> >>cannot find >> >>>>anything >>>>there that corresponds with what might be sending these >>> >>traps. The >> >>>>unknown >>>>trap looks like this.... >>>>Trap #20 From OID 1.3.6.1.4.1.23.2.73 >>>> >>>>Anyone have any ideas? >>>> >>>>John Hanna >>>>Network Services Manager >>>>Coastal Carolina University >>>>PO Box 261954 >>>>Conway, SC 29528-6054 >>>>Phone:(843)349-2150 Fax: (843)349-2990 >>>>Email: John at coastal.edu >>>> >>> > > -- To most people, the sky is the limit. To those who love aviation, the sky is home. - anon. From greg at STEADFAST.CA Wed Jul 10 00:00:12 2002 From: greg at STEADFAST.CA (Greg Bembridge) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:00:12 -0400 Subject: NDPS and Jet Direct on Novell 6 Message-ID: This may sound a little goofy, but try installing your jet admin program on a different computer. I have had all kinds of issues getting jet direct to work at a couple of site, and in both cases they were related to either a somehow corrupt/bad version of jet admin, or it was the pc I was installing it on. One particular issue was when I updated a site to Novell 5 from 4.11, even HP told me I had to replace two of the jetdirect cards. I reinstalled the software on a different pc and all of a sudden everything worked. Greg Greg Bembridge, CET, CNE, MCP Steadfast Computer Network Services greg at steadfast.ca www.steadfast.ca >>> mfowler at KENNESAW.EDU 06/27/02 03:16PM >>> Question, has anyone had problems with any Jet Direct boxes that were = already configured for NDPS when upgrading from NetWare 5 to NetWare 6. Out of 120+ printer only about 10 can't be configured to run NDPS under = NetWare 5. My theory is if it will run NDPS under NetWare 5, it should = run NDPS under 6. However one tech here disagrees and says we need to = order 100 new Jet Direct Cards to bring them up to a firmware version that = will run with NetWare 6. I would appreciate any advice. Thanks, Melissa ------------------------------ From greg at STEADFAST.CA Wed Jul 10 00:02:15 2002 From: greg at STEADFAST.CA (Greg Bembridge) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:02:15 -0400 Subject: SSL certificate for IIS web server Message-ID: Does anyone know if using SSL requires licensed connections from those trying to access? What about on win2000 server using SSL, does it require enough licenses for the expected influx of users coming in on the web to view the pages? Greg I would like to be able to create an SSL certificate for an IIS web server using my Novell CA. Can that be done? I searched through a bunch of stuff and it seems like in theory it should work but I wonder if anybody has any personal experience related to this. Greg Bembridge, CET, CNE, MCP Steadfast Computer Network Services greg at steadfast.ca www.steadfast.ca From greg at STEADFAST.CA Wed Jul 10 00:13:20 2002 From: greg at STEADFAST.CA (Greg Bembridge) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:13:20 -0400 Subject: Multiple abends Arcserve 7 NW6 ASDB.NLM Message-ID: I had the same problems, and immediately got rid of them by doing an automatic server reboot each night. That solved the problem in the interim, but Arcserve sent me this - which I have since implemented. Something else I do when the backup runs before midnight, is I schedule the prune/purge to run about 6AM which is several hours after the backup is finished. Try this out. Greg 1. Edit the parameters of sys:\system\bti.cfg file as indicated below: [MicroKernel] MaxFiles =200 (default is 20) MaxCursors=120 (default is 60) CacheSize=32768 (default is 1024) MaxClients=120 (default is 30) BackgroundThreads=30 (default is 4) [Btrieve Communications Manager] MaxWorkerThreads=30 (default is 3) MaxClients=120 (default is 15) Then restart the Novell server for the changes to take effect. 2. Once the server is restarted and ARCserve is up submit a backup job and check whethere it is going fine. If that is again abending the server then follow the suggestion given below: 3. Refer the document 10133 from the link indicated below and then replace the database. http://support.ca.com/techbases/as61/10133.html 4. To set the time for the prune and purge jobs go to the Arcserve manager--> Quick access--> server admin--> select admin from the menu and then select configure--> prune/purge and then set the time accordingly. I have two servers NW6SP1 servers running Arcserve 7.0 with the same patches (I don't remember which ones). Each time the ASDB process attempts to "prune" the database records, multiple abends occur, and I have frozen servers, that I need to reboot. Does anyone have the same problems ? Greg Bembridge, CET, CNE, MCP Steadfast Computer Network Services greg at steadfast.ca www.steadfast.ca From john at COASTAL.EDU Wed Jul 10 03:50:55 2002 From: john at COASTAL.EDU (John Hanna) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:50:55 -0400 Subject: Unknown Traps References: <3D2B69EF.3020301@project-mgmt.com> Message-ID: <001001c227bc$9d8d4010$b5c91f18@yourw92p4bhlzg> Thanks!!! That is exactlly what I was looking for. Does anyone know if the NLSALARM.MIB works alright with HPOpenView? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Roth" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 6:55 PM Subject: Re: Unknown Traps > Trap destination is in traptarg.cfg and the instructions for controlling > the licensing traps is located in nlstrap.cfg. Additionally, check out > nwtrap.cfg for generic server traps. > > Mike > > John Hanna wrote: > > Is there a utility for configuring the trap destination, alert level to send, etc.? I have looked high and low and cannot find how to set this information. I know I must have done it at sometime in the past, because these traps are going to my SNMP station. The only thing I can find in regards to snmp is the "load snmp.nlm " line in the autoexec.ncf > > > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of > >>Michael Roth > >>Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 3:10 PM > >>To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU > >>Subject: Re: Unknown Traps > >> > >> > >>Trap definitions are contained in their associated MIB files > >>(this is basic SNMP stuff). The MIB file for the licensing > >>service is SYS:ETC\NLSALARM.MIB, if you open this with > >>notepad you will find the definitions, here's the one for > >>trap 20: > >> > >>lsUpdateBadHandle > >> TRAP-TYPE > >> ENTERPRISE nlstrap-mib > >> VARIABLES { serverName, trapTime, > >> appName, userName, > >> networkAddress, macAddress } > >> DESCRIPTION "NetWare License Server: > >> LSUpdate failed due to > >> invalid licensing handle." > >> --#TYPE "NLS: Update failed - invalid > >> licensing handle" > >> --#SUMMARY "A license update for %s by %s at > >> %x:%x failed, license handle did" > >> --#SUMMARY " not indicate a currently valid > >> licensing handle." > >> --#ARGUMENTS {2,3,4,5} > >> --#SEVERITY MINOR > >> --#TIMEINDEX 1 > >> --#STATE OPERATIONAL > >> ::= 20 > >> > >>HTH > >>Mike > >> > >> > >>>Any ideas on why I would be getting traps related to > >> > >>licenses when the > >> > >>>console is not showing any problems with license? How can > >> > >>I find the cause > >> > >>>of any license issues? > >>> > >>> > >>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>From: Novell LAN Interest Group > >>> > >>[mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of > >> > >>>>Patrick Medhurst > >>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:17 AM > >>>>To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU > >>>>Subject: Re: Unknown Traps > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>Novell OID's 1.3.6.1.4.1.23.2.73 usually relates to > >>> > >>Licencing issues. > >> > >>>>http://www.alvestrand.no/objectid/1.3.6.1.4.1.23.html > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>>John at COASTAL.EDU 07/09/02 03:13PM >>> > >>>>>> > >>>>I have a Compaq Proliant 6000 running nw5.1 Sp4 and I > >>> > >>keep getting an > >> > >>>>unknown trap on my smnp station from this server. I have > >>> > >>looked on > >> > >>>>the > >>>>console screen and all other screens on the server and > >>> > >>cannot find > >> > >>>>anything > >>>>there that corresponds with what might be sending these > >>> > >>traps. The > >> > >>>>unknown > >>>>trap looks like this.... > >>>>Trap #20 From OID 1.3.6.1.4.1.23.2.73 > >>>> > >>>>Anyone have any ideas? > >>>> > >>>>John Hanna > >>>>Network Services Manager > >>>>Coastal Carolina University > >>>>PO Box 261954 > >>>>Conway, SC 29528-6054 > >>>>Phone:(843)349-2150 Fax: (843)349-2990 > >>>>Email: John at coastal.edu > >>>> > >>> > > > > > > -- > To most people, the sky is the limit. To those who love aviation, the > sky is home. > > - anon. > From MHGlenn at CCO.STATE.OH.US Wed Jul 10 13:34:41 2002 From: MHGlenn at CCO.STATE.OH.US (Michael Glenn) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:34:41 -0400 Subject: NW51SP4, Winsock & httpstk Message-ID: As an aside, last time I had KMO problems I never could get PKIDIAG to recreate the certificates. So, I just re-created them by hand. No big thing, really. >>> John at COASTAL.EDU 07/09/2002 13:01:57 >>> Rich, Did PKIDiag.nlm not create the KMOs (CertificateDNS and CertificateIP) and link them for you? >-----Original Message----- >From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of >Molettiere, Rich >Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 11:33 AM >To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU >Subject: Re: NW51SP4, Winsock & httpstk > > >Haven't seen my most recent post (Exchange is my 'relay' mail >system and has >been problematic lately), so let me update you. > >NORTH11 won't load httpstk. It is a intranet webserver, nothing else runs >on >it. The failure to load occurred after a problematic update of nw51sp4 >(server abended during the update but did complete on the 2nd try). > >Error on launching httpstk is: > >>>>Error acessing Winsock Services, ccdoe=0x32 >>>>Server 5.00-1553 Module initialization failed. > >After reading the May 2002 AppNote on Novell's Security >Infrastructure (good >article), I noticed that there wasn't a CertificateDNS or >CertificateIP. So >I'm leaning towards a problem in this area. I'm about ready to remove the >server, rebuild it and restore from tape thinking that a fresh >install might >be an easier way to correct whatever the problem is - thoughts? > >Rich Molettiere >Technology Coordinator >Omaha North High School >"Technology is not a free lunch." > >>>> John Hanna 07/08/02 01:23PM >>> >Hum, What apps are your running? I usually run choice #2. It links sas >objects and KMOs. I haven't had to rekey any apps after doing it, >but all I >am running is Novell Apps. > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of >>Molettiere, Rich >>Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 1:24 PM >>To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU >>Subject: Re: NW51SP4, Winsock & httpstk >> >> >>Forget the "blank screen" reported below - I wasn't running it on the CA >>server. >> >>Question - pkidiag has found an error and I now have three options >> >>1. Do nothing >>2. Rename the SSL certificate and create a new one (Apps may need to be >>reconfigured) >>3. ReKey the SSL CertificateDNS (This means the old keys will be >>destroyed!) >> >>Is the better choice #3? I understand the old keys are destroyed but does >>it >>link everything up? Or should I take a chance with #2 and hope >>that my apps >>won't have to be rekeyed. >> >> >> >>Some days it would be better to stay home... >> >>Tried running pkidiag and I only get a blank screen with the cursor in the >>upper-left corner of the screen. Stits there for 15 minutes but >>will unload >>from the system console. >> >>Rich Molettiere >>Technology Coordinator >>Omaha North High School >>"Technology is not a free lunch." >> >>>>> John Hanna 07/08/02 08:47AM >>> >>Try running the latest copy of pkidiag.nlm and see if there are >>any problems >>with your KMOs. I had to do that on one of my servers. >> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of >>>Molettiere, Rich >>>Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 8:12 AM >>>To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU >>>Subject: Re: NW51SP4, Winsock & httpstk >>> >>> >>>I tried pausing between nile & httpstk with no luck. Still getting: >>> >>>>Error acessing Winsock Services, ccdoe=0x32 >>>>Server 5.00-1553 Module initialization failed. >>>> >>> >>>Any other ideas? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>Rich Molettiere >>>Technology Coordinator >>>Omaha North High School >>>"Technology is not a free lunch." >>> >>>>>> John Hanna 07/05/02 04:33PM >>> >>>I spent several weeks chasing this one down, though the error message was >>>not the same as you have put here. The fix is easy and worth >>trying though. >>> >>>Move the load httpstk.nlm state further down in your autoexec.ncf. It is >>>placed just under the load nile.nlm by default and if nile.nlm does not >>>finish loading and initializing before httpstk.nlm is loaded after SP$ is >>>installed, it cause mucho problems. >>> >>>If you want to test first to see if this is your problem, just >put a pause >>>between >>>load nile.nlm >>>load httpstk.nlm >>> >>>HTH, >>>John >>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of >>>>Rich Molettiere >>>>Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 3:56 PM >>>>To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU >>>>Subject: NW51SP4, Winsock & httpstk >>>> >>>> >>>>Upgraded a 5.1 to SP4. 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------=_NextPart_262_12040888783211-- From SEUFERER at ALAN.AMESLAB.GOV Wed Jul 10 13:43:09 2002 From: SEUFERER at ALAN.AMESLAB.GOV (David Seuferer) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:43:09 -0400 Subject: Arcserve 7 and NW 5.1 login failures Message-ID: We have BackupExec for Netware v 9.0 and backup NT servers every night. It came with agents for windows, NT, macs, dos, os/2 and unix. David Seuferer, CNE Ames Laboratory Information Systems seuferer at ameslab.gov fax: (515) 294-5638 phone: (515) 294-6053 "It comes in pints!?" Pippin >>> LISTSERV at LSV.SYR.EDU 07/09/02 09:51PM >>> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:43:09 -0400 From: Brady Toulou Subject: Re: Arcserve 7 and NW 5.1 login failures We too were looking to change our Arcserve (currently 6.6) to BE 9.0 until I found out that BE 9.0 for Netware will not backup any open files (nor has any backup agents) for any server other than netware. A BE engineer told me this. However, the NT version has backup agents for Netware. Brady On Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:01:19 -0500, Mike DeWitt wrote: >Yes. And I experienced the same frustrations as you while looking for a >solution. > >In the end, I could only get reliable backups of remote machines if I >used the "extra" backup agent from CA. Curiously, this same >configuration worked fine with Arcserve 6.6. > >Mike > >>>> t.cummins at COMPSERV.GLA.AC.UK 07/09/02 03:45AM >>> >Guys, > >Anyone seen problems with Arcserve 7.0 whereby the backup user fails to >login to the target server giving a E0144 "Failed to login" error ? > >I've searched the CAI website and was startled to find out that >Arcserve 7 appears to make a bindery login request - i.e. every >container in which a target server exists must have a local user with >associated rights to backup. Isn't this a step backwards ?? I've created >a backup user in every container that has a server to backup, I've >assigned the necessary rights to the user, I've then set a bindery >context for the container. Result ? Some servers backup OK - others give >the error noted above, even though there appears to be no difference in >te setup of the user and associated rights granted. > >I've about had it with Arcserve - I'm looking at Backup Exec for >Netware v 9.0 - anyone got any tales of woe for this software before I >migrate my backups ? In the meantime I'm getting partial backups with no >clear indication why this should be ! > >Any info would be gratefully received, > >cheers, > >Tony Cummins > >Netware Team >Glasgow University ------------------------------ From John at COASTAL.EDU Wed Jul 10 14:29:27 2002 From: John at COASTAL.EDU (John Hanna) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:29:27 -0400 Subject: Arcserve 7 and NW 5.1 login failures In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Same here, but Veritas engineer did say there were issues with backing up open files on NT.. Basically, he said don't/ won't/ can't do it. All files being backed needs to be closed. It is best to have it set to skip open files so that you don't have problems. >-----Original Message----- >From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of >David Seuferer >Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 8:43 AM >To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU >Subject: Re: Arcserve 7 and NW 5.1 login failures > > >We have BackupExec for Netware v 9.0 and backup NT servers >every night. It came with agents for windows, NT, macs, dos, >os/2 and unix. > > > > >David Seuferer, CNE >Ames Laboratory >Information Systems >seuferer at ameslab.gov >fax: (515) 294-5638 >phone: (515) 294-6053 > > >"It comes in pints!?" Pippin > > >>>> LISTSERV at LSV.SYR.EDU 07/09/02 09:51PM >>> >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 15:47:59 -0400 >From: Brady Toulou >Subject: Re: Arcserve 7 and NW 5.1 login failures > >We too were looking to change our Arcserve (currently 6.6) to BE 9.0 >until >I found out that BE 9.0 for Netware will not backup any open files (nor >has >any backup agents) for any server other than netware. A BE engineer >told >me this. However, the NT version has backup agents for Netware. > >Brady > >On Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:01:19 -0500, Mike DeWitt > >wrote: > >>Yes. And I experienced the same frustrations as you while looking for >a >>solution. >> >>In the end, I could only get reliable backups of remote machines if I >>used the "extra" backup agent from CA. Curiously, this same >>configuration worked fine with Arcserve 6.6. >> >>Mike >> >>>>> t.cummins at COMPSERV.GLA.AC.UK 07/09/02 03:45AM >>> >>Guys, >> >>Anyone seen problems with Arcserve 7.0 whereby the backup user fails >to >>login to the target server giving a E0144 "Failed to login" error ? >> >>I've searched the CAI website and was startled to find out that >>Arcserve 7 appears to make a bindery login request - i.e. every >>container in which a target server exists must have a local user with >>associated rights to backup. Isn't this a step backwards ?? I've >created >>a backup user in every container that has a server to backup, I've >>assigned the necessary rights to the user, I've then set a bindery >>context for the container. Result ? Some servers backup OK - others >give >>the error noted above, even though there appears to be no difference >in >>te setup of the user and associated rights granted. >> >>I've about had it with Arcserve - I'm looking at Backup Exec for >>Netware v 9.0 - anyone got any tales of woe for this software before >I >>migrate my backups ? In the meantime I'm getting partial backups with >no >>clear indication why this should be ! >> >>Any info would be gratefully received, >> >>cheers, >> >>Tony Cummins >> >>Netware Team >>Glasgow University > >------------------------------ > From DManning at BARK.WNYRIC.ORG Wed Jul 10 14:31:20 2002 From: DManning at BARK.WNYRIC.ORG (Dick Manning) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:31:20 -0400 Subject: Arcserve 7 for Netware Message-ID: >Guys, > >Anyone seen problems with Arcserve 7.0 whereby the backup user fails to >login to the target server giving a E0144 "Failed to login" error ? > >I've searched the CAI website and was startled to find out that >Arcserve 7 appears to make a bindery login request - i.e. every >container in which a target server exists must have a local user with >associated rights to backup. Isn't this a step backwards ?? I've created >a backup user in every container that has a server to backup, I've >assigned the necessary rights to the user, I've then set a bindery >context for the container. Result ? Some servers backup OK - others give >the error noted above, even though there appears to be no difference in >te setup of the user and associated rights granted. > >I've about had it with Arcserve - I'm looking at Backup Exec for >Netware v 9.0 - anyone got any tales of woe for this software before I >migrate my backups ? In the meantime I'm getting partial backups with no >clear indication why this should be ! > >Any info would be gratefully received, > >cheers, > >Tony Cummins > >Netware Team >Glasgow University -------------- Tony, We have experienced the problem you describe with Arcserve 7 on NW 5.1. The workaround I use is to recreate the backup job every time rather than trying to save the job and reschedule. Using this method I am able to use my NDS (not bindery) Admin user to backup several servers. However, I must verify the password for the user for each server before submitting the job. After working with Arcserve versions 4,5,6,and 7 I also have come to the conclusion that it's time for a change. Ver. 7 just doesn't work! I have spent countless hours patching and updating after scouring the CA website for clues. I finally have a reliable backup but do not enjoy creating the job from scratch each time. I am also supplementing my efforts with Arcserve 6 on another 4.11 server since 7 has been glitchy. I have been told that NovaStor v. 8.5 is better than Arcserve or Exec - it has already been implemented in several area schools. I'm waiting for my copy to arrive. For more information contact : NovaStor.com - 80B West Cochran - Simi Valley, CA 93065. They have a free demo. Good luck. Richard Manning, CNE Network Technician Barker Central School District 1628 Quaker Road Barker, NY 14012 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://netlab1.usu.edu/pipermail/novell/attachments/20020710/024b35fc/attachment.html From John at COASTAL.EDU Wed Jul 10 16:19:20 2002 From: John at COASTAL.EDU (John Hanna) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:19:20 -0400 Subject: Open Shares..A little off topic Message-ID: Does anyone have or know of a utility that checks for open windows shares? The Elkern Virus has re-appeared on our network and I easily stop the spread on our netware servers by disabling the user's account as soon as Netshield alerts me that there is a user infecting files., But these dog gone windows workstations with open file sharing are hard to track and find. John Hanna Network Services Manager Coastal Carolina University PO Box 261954 Conway, SC 29528-6054 Phone:(843)349-2150 Fax: (843)349-2990 Email: John at coastal.edu From Peter.VanLone at MBTMADISON.COM Wed Jul 10 16:28:24 2002 From: Peter.VanLone at MBTMADISON.COM (Peter Van Lone) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:28:24 -0400 Subject: server has IP conflict with itself ????? Message-ID: I recently replaced a failed nic. I deleted the old nic, added the new one via inetcfg (n100 driver in a compaq server) and bound the IP address (it is a secondary nic used as part of a 'backup network -- ie not redundancy, but for traffic to/from the backup server). Now I am getting "This server and the system having hardware address xxxxxxxx have a conflict for IP address 192.168.11.1" The really odd thing is that the hardware address listed is the hardware address of the new nic -- I've done dsrepairs, repair server addresses, etc .... I've deleted and re-installed the nic, forced duplex and speed, etc .... the server cannot ping on the backup segment. ideas? From G.Ross at CCW.GOV.UK Wed Jul 10 16:31:06 2002 From: G.Ross at CCW.GOV.UK (Gordon Ross) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:31:06 -0400 Subject: server has IP conflict with itself ????? Message-ID: It sounds as if something else on that segments has learnt the old NIC MAC address, but not re-learning the new address ? GTG >>> Peter.VanLone at MBTMADISON.COM 07/10/02 04:28pm >>> I recently replaced a failed nic. I deleted the old nic, added the new one via inetcfg (n100 driver in a compaq server) and bound the IP address (it is a secondary nic used as part of a 'backup network -- ie not redundancy, but for traffic to/from the backup server). Now I am getting "This server and the system having hardware address xxxxxxxx have a conflict for IP address 192.168.11.1" The really odd thing is that the hardware address listed is the hardware address of the new nic -- I've done dsrepairs, repair server addresses, etc .... I've deleted and re-installed the nic, forced duplex and speed, etc .... the server cannot ping on the backup segment. ideas? From Peter.VanLone at MBTMADISON.COM Wed Jul 10 16:43:59 2002 From: Peter.VanLone at MBTMADISON.COM (Peter Van Lone) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:43:59 -0400 Subject: server has IP conflict with itself ????? Message-ID: except that the MAC address listed as being in conflict is the NEW NIC's address -- and the IP address is the same as before. Also, as a test, I changed the IP address to a different network address found nowhere on the LAN, and the message that came back was the same -- except of course the error referenced the diff IP address. I was thinking maybe the ARP table on the switch (cisco catalyst 4006) but then how could the MAC address be the new nic's? -----Original Message----- From: Gordon Ross [mailto:G.Ross at CCW.GOV.UK] Sent: Wed 7/10/2002 10:30 AM To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU Cc: Subject: Re: server has IP conflict with itself ????? It sounds as if something else on that segments has learnt the old NIC MAC address, but not re-learning the new address ? GTG >>> Peter.VanLone at MBTMADISON.COM 07/10/02 04:28pm >>> I recently replaced a failed nic. I deleted the old nic, added the new one via inetcfg (n100 driver in a compaq server) and bound the IP address (it is a secondary nic used as part of a 'backup network -- ie not redundancy, but for traffic to/from the backup server). Now I am getting "This server and the system having hardware address xxxxxxxx have a conflict for IP address 192.168.11.1" The really odd thing is that the hardware address listed is the hardware address of the new nic -- I've done dsrepairs, repair server addresses, etc .... I've deleted and re-installed the nic, forced duplex and speed, etc .... the server cannot ping on the backup segment. ideas? From Peter.VanLone at MBTMADISON.COM Wed Jul 10 16:53:34 2002 From: Peter.VanLone at MBTMADISON.COM (Peter Van Lone) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:53:34 -0400 Subject: server has IP conflict with itself ????? Message-ID: figured it out -- as usual a simple thing that took much too long to get to: the NIC is a dual port server nic (a compaq nc3134) -- I have the stub cable in the unused port which I THOUGHT was port 2. When I was loading the nic driver, the available slots were 301 or 302. Since I had believed the live network cable was in port 1, I used 301. As soon as I re-addedd the driver and specified 302 (because I had the loopback cable in port 1 actually and the network cable in port 2), the IP address bound with no problems. gees! pvl -----Original Message----- From: Gordon Ross [mailto:G.Ross at CCW.GOV.UK] Sent: Wed 7/10/2002 10:30 AM To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU Cc: Subject: Re: server has IP conflict with itself ????? It sounds as if something else on that segments has learnt the old NIC MAC address, but not re-learning the new address ? GTG >>> Peter.VanLone at MBTMADISON.COM 07/10/02 04:28pm >>> I recently replaced a failed nic. I deleted the old nic, added the new one via inetcfg (n100 driver in a compaq server) and bound the IP address (it is a secondary nic used as part of a 'backup network -- ie not redundancy, but for traffic to/from the backup server). Now I am getting "This server and the system having hardware address xxxxxxxx have a conflict for IP address 192.168.11.1" The really odd thing is that the hardware address listed is the hardware address of the new nic -- I've done dsrepairs, repair server addresses, etc .... I've deleted and re-installed the nic, forced duplex and speed, etc .... the server cannot ping on the backup segment. ideas? From kmwade at GENDATASYS.COM Wed Jul 10 17:01:32 2002 From: kmwade at GENDATASYS.COM (Kevin Wade) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:01:32 -0400 Subject: Open Shares..A little off topic In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3D2C13E1.28314.173B07BD@localhost> Yes. GFI's LanGuard Network Scanner. It is here: http://www.gfi.com/lannetscan/ Worked fine when I tried it some time back. Kevin Wade -------- Original Message: > Does anyone have or know of a utility that checks for open windows shares? > The Elkern Virus has re-appeared on our network and I easily stop the spread > on our netware servers by disabling the user's account as soon as Netshield > alerts me that there is a user infecting files., But these dog gone windows > workstations with open file sharing are hard to track and find. > > John Hanna > Network Services Manager > Coastal Carolina University > PO Box 261954 > Conway, SC 29528-6054 > Phone:(843)349-2150 Fax: (843)349-2990 > Email: John at coastal.edu From John at COASTAL.EDU Wed Jul 10 17:08:25 2002 From: John at COASTAL.EDU (John Hanna) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:08:25 -0400 Subject: Open Shares..A little off topic In-Reply-To: <3D2C13E1.28314.173B07BD@localhost> Message-ID: Thanks Kevin. I found this one a while back too, but have not figured out how to have it show me open shares. It shows all shares whether they are password protected or not. It scans for so many things, which is good, but when I only want to know about open shares, I can't seem to make it only show me this. Full scan is too much information to weed through when I need just the open shares (not password protected). Am I overlooking a config setting on this util? >-----Original Message----- >From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of >Kevin Wade >Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 12:01 PM >To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU >Subject: Re: Open Shares..A little off topic > > >Yes. GFI's LanGuard Network Scanner. It is here: >http://www.gfi.com/lannetscan/ >Worked fine when I tried it some time back. > >Kevin Wade > >-------- Original Message: > >> Does anyone have or know of a utility that checks for open >windows shares? >> The Elkern Virus has re-appeared on our network and I easily >stop the spread >> on our netware servers by disabling the user's account as soon >as Netshield >> alerts me that there is a user infecting files., But these dog >gone windows >> workstations with open file sharing are hard to track and find. >> >> John Hanna >> Network Services Manager >> Coastal Carolina University >> PO Box 261954 >> Conway, SC 29528-6054 >> Phone:(843)349-2150 Fax: (843)349-2990 >> Email: John at coastal.edu > From tom.lintemuth at JNLI.COM Wed Jul 10 18:56:22 2002 From: tom.lintemuth at JNLI.COM (Lintemuth, Tom) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:56:22 -0400 Subject: GWIA SMTP Relay Message-ID: What is the procedure for setting up the GroupWise Internet Agent so that it can't be used as a relay? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://netlab1.usu.edu/pipermail/novell/attachments/20020710/6a5ad84d/attachment.html From lindblom at MICO.COM Wed Jul 10 19:07:07 2002 From: lindblom at MICO.COM (lindblom at MICO.COM) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:07:07 -0400 Subject: NWDEPLOY Problems Message-ID: I'm doing a test migration from NW5.0 to NW6. The migration went well but now I'm at the point were I'm running NWDEPLOY to install additional products, it connects to the server fine (after entering the IP address) but after selecting all the applications and entering the IP addresses for the Web stuff, I get the following error "An error occurred while attempting to log into Novell Directory Services as admin.test. The error code is :-1228" I have done this before with no problems like this but this test just will not work. I could start over but I would like to find the problem in case it happens during the real migration. From JLAPIN at CONCOURSMOTORS.COM Wed Jul 10 19:26:01 2002 From: JLAPIN at CONCOURSMOTORS.COM (JOHN LAPIN) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:26:01 -0400 Subject: GWIA SMTP Relay Message-ID: Try this TID: 10008701 >>> tom.lintemuth at JNLI.COM 07/10/02 12:56PM >>> What is the procedure for setting up the GroupWise Internet Agent so that it can't be used as a relay? From angussf at GEOAPPS.COM Wed Jul 10 19:45:55 2002 From: angussf at GEOAPPS.COM (Angus Scott-Fleming) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:45:55 -0400 Subject: (Fwd) NDS guru wanted Message-ID: <3D2C1E65.31259.40D887C@localhost> Got this from an acquaintance in Tucson ... anybody here care to take this on? Reply offlist and I'll pass your name and contact info along. Angus ------- Forwarded message follows ------- Date sent: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 16:01:10 -0400 Subject: NDS guru wanted Hello everyone, Hi from Washington D.C. Things are going well here. Hope you all are healthy, happy and prosperous. This is just a follow-up on that SANUG e-mail with a request to find some other people that I'd tokeep in touchwith and/or talk with about our network here. Does anyone know where Gerard Meyers, Dan Meyersor Matt Mairs are these days - how to contact them? And, Budd, how about Herb? (I'm including the SANUG e-mail for Kelly and Rick.) I'm going to hit the yellow pages search engines, too,as soon as I send this. Thanks, Ken "OK, does anyone know a true Novell DS/OS guru-type consultantthat could travel to D.C. at least once? We've gotmany very interesting concerns about migrating froman old DS tree (where we are currently authenticating with old-style user names) to a new DS tree (with new-style user names already in use with the new GroupWise). This involves 15 old servers anda legacy file structure spread across them, an old and a new GroupWise,a fewhundred printers, printing from a mainframe through Unix Services, an active Border Manager in the new tree,and several other considerations includinga third tree as well." ------- End of forwarded message ------- --------------------------------------------------------- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona angussf at geoapps.com 1-520-290-5038 / fax 1-208-248-3124 --------------------------------------------------------- From kmwade at GENDATASYS.COM Wed Jul 10 20:52:54 2002 From: kmwade at GENDATASYS.COM (Kevin Wade) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 15:52:54 -0400 Subject: Open Shares..A little off topic In-Reply-To: References: <3D2C13E1.28314.173B07BD@localhost> Message-ID: <3D2C4A23.4335.180EF917@localhost> I don't think it tries to access shares unless you double-click them, so you have to check them individually. (Not really better than 'Network Neighborhood', I guess.) That would be a nice extra thing to have. Kevin Wade -------- Original Message: > Thanks Kevin. I found this one a while back too, but have not figured out > how to have it show me open shares. It shows all shares whether they are > password protected or not. It scans for so many things, which is good, but > when I only want to know about open shares, I can't seem to make it only > show me this. Full scan is too much information to weed through when I need > just the open shares (not password protected). Am I overlooking a config > setting on this util? > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of > >Kevin Wade > >Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 12:01 PM > >To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU > >Subject: Re: Open Shares..A little off topic > > > > > >Yes. GFI's LanGuard Network Scanner. It is here: > >http://www.gfi.com/lannetscan/ > >Worked fine when I tried it some time back. > > > >Kevin Wade > > > >-------- Original Message: > > > >> Does anyone have or know of a utility that checks for open > >windows shares? > >> The Elkern Virus has re-appeared on our network and I easily > >stop the spread > >> on our netware servers by disabling the user's account as soon > >as Netshield > >> alerts me that there is a user infecting files., But these dog > >gone windows > >> workstations with open file sharing are hard to track and find. > >> > >> John Hanna > >> Network Services Manager > >> Coastal Carolina University > >> PO Box 261954 > >> Conway, SC 29528-6054 > >> Phone:(843)349-2150 Fax: (843)349-2990 > >> Email: John at coastal.edu > > From tom.lintemuth at JNLI.COM Wed Jul 10 20:54:18 2002 From: tom.lintemuth at JNLI.COM (Lintemuth, Tom) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 15:54:18 -0400 Subject: GWIA SMTP Relay Message-ID: Okay, I enabled that. Now users can't send messages out. -----Original Message----- From: JOHN LAPIN [mailto:JLAPIN at CONCOURSMOTORS.COM] Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 2:15 PM To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU Subject: Re: GWIA SMTP Relay Try this TID: 10008701 >>> tom.lintemuth at JNLI.COM 07/10/02 12:56PM >>> What is the procedure for setting up the GroupWise Internet Agent so that it can't be used as a relay? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://netlab1.usu.edu/pipermail/novell/attachments/20020710/8e386f49/attachment.html From cjf at CALFRYE.COM Thu Jul 11 02:44:41 2002 From: cjf at CALFRYE.COM (Cal Frye) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 21:44:41 -0400 Subject: Arcserve 7 for Netware In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020710214140.01e88400@imap.calfrye.com> At 09:32 AM 7/10/2002 -0400, you wrote: > I have been told that NovaStor v. 8.5 is better than Arcserve or > Exec - it has already been implemented in several area schools. I'm > waiting for my >copy to arrive. For more information contact : NovaStor.com - 80B >West Cochran - Simi Valley, CA 93065. They have a free demo. Good luck. > > >Richard Manning, CNE >Network Technician >Barker Central School District Just sent in the PO for NovaNet's site license for Netware and Windows servers. However, it appears to have troubles with Macintosh filenames stored on my Windows and Netware boxes. I'm getting files skipped with complaints of strange characters in filenames and such. Anyone with NovaStor experience out there who knows a fix? You name the OS; I've got users trying to connect it to my servers. --Cal Frye, Network Administrator, Oberlin College "The day after I was elected, I had my high school grades classified Top Secret." --Ronald Reagan (b. 1911) From admin at IAA.GOV.IL Thu Jul 11 06:18:48 2002 From: admin at IAA.GOV.IL (Mike Glassman - Admin) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 01:18:48 -0400 Subject: Open Shares..A little off topic Message-ID: I am pasting a VBS script which will do something like what you want. If you know scripting, you can expand on this to do more. It's one I found somewhere or other and is very nice indeed. Simply change the domain name to fit your domain, and the path to the log file in the script and save it with a VBS extension (obviously), run it and wait till it's done. Mike '********************************************************************************** '* This script will connect to every machine in a domain (defined in AD or Server * '* Manager) and enumerate any non-admin (i.e. c$, admin$) file shares. It outputs * '* this info to a text file so that you can review or save for records/audit. * '* The script will use either a domain specified in the script or from a command * '* line argument * '********************************************************************************** Dim FileSys, ComputerName, info, CpuNameText, text, text1, ArgObj, DomName Set FileSys = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject") 'set the filessytem object Set TxtFile = FileSys.CreateTextFile("c:\shares.txt", True) 'open text file Set ArgObj = Wscript.Arguments On error resume next 'specify to continue running in the event of an error i.e. system could not be contacted msgbox "About to process script." & vbcrlf & vbcrlf & "Depending on the number of systems, this may take a long time." & vbcrlf & vbcrlf & "Please be patient...",64 'set the domain name variable. Replace as needed DomName = "YOUR-DOMAIN-HERE" 'check to see if there was a command line argument For I = 0 to ArgObj.Count - 1 DomName = ArgObj(I) next 'set the default domain to search based on either the domain in the script or the command line argument Set domain = getobject("WinNT://" & DomName) wscript.echo DomName 'wscript.Quit For each computer in domain 'start a loop to read all the machines in the domain if computer.class = "Computer" then 'start an if..then loop to check all the systems in the domain CpuNameText = text & computer.name & vbcrlf 'set a variable to contain the computer name ComputerName = "WinNT://" & DomName & "/" & lcase(computer.name) & "/lanmanserver" 'specify the computer to do a share search on If lcase(computer.name) <> "exclude" then 'start a loop to check the shares on all the computers Set fserv = GetObject(ComputerName) For each share in fserv 'start a loop checking each share listed. This loop continues for all the shares on a computer before it exists. If Err <> 0 then 'check to see if there was an error connecting and set text1 to the first entry if there was text1 = vbtab & "There was an error connecting to this system." & vbcrlf & vbtab & "Verify that the system is online and operational may be win9X." & vbcrlf else 'if there was not an error, then set text1 as below text1 = text1 & vbtab & share.name & vbcrlf end if next If text1 = "" then 'check the value of test1. If it was blank, set text as below text = CpuNameText & vbtab & "There were no shares on this system." & vbcrlf else 'otherwise, set text as below text = CpuNameText & Text1 End if comp = text 'set comp TxtFile.writeline(comp) 'write the content of comp to the texfile set comp = nothing 'the next 4 lines clear all the variables for a computer before text = "" 'the computer loop exits and moves to the next computer text1 = "" CpuNameText = "" err.Clear end if 'end the loop on a computer and move to the next one. end if 'end the loop checking all the computers Next 'end the loop reading all the computers TxtFile.Close 'close the text file wscript.echo "All Done!" & vbcrlf & vbcrlf & "See file shares.txt for result" 'signify the end of the script processing. > -----Original Message-----> > From: John Hanna [SMTP:John at COASTAL.EDU] > Sent: a eaie 10 2002 17:19 > To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU > Subject: Open Shares..A little off topic > > Does anyone have or know of a utility that checks for open windows shares? > The Elkern Virus has re-appeared on our network and I easily stop the spread > on our netware servers by disabling the user's account as soon as Netshield > alerts me that there is a user infecting files., But these dog gone windows > workstations with open file sharing are hard to track and find. > > John Hanna > Network Services Manager > Coastal Carolina University > PO Box 261954 > Conway, SC 29528-6054 > Phone:(843)349-2150 Fax: (843)349-2990 > Email: John at coastal.edu From elbourki at QP.COM.QA Thu Jul 11 07:39:06 2002 From: elbourki at QP.COM.QA (Farag Elbourki) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 02:39:06 -0400 Subject: Where to set file handles in Client for W2K Message-ID: We have a DOS based application which we need to set the number of file handles by using the DOS SET command. Since we started using the latest Windows 2000/NT Novell client 4.83, the application stopped working due to the number of file handles. My question is, where can you set the number of file handles in the Windows2000/NT client 4.83. This used to work with client version 4.81 Any help is appreciated. Farag Hamid Elbourki, ITT/E3 Network Engineer IT Department Qatar Petroleum P.O. Box 47 - ITD, Doha, Qatar Tel: +974 4402326, Fax: +974 4402051 elbourki at qp.com.qa -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confidentiality Notice : This e-mail and any attachments are confidential to the addressee and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee of this e-mail, you may not copy, forward, disclose or otherwise use it in any way whatsoever. If you have received this e-mail by mistake, please e-mail the sender by replying to this message, and delete the original and any print out thereof. 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------=_NextPart_129_81432868256741374431250-- From dmulligan at MATHESON.CO.UK Thu Jul 11 09:34:13 2002 From: dmulligan at MATHESON.CO.UK (David Mulligan) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 04:34:13 -0400 Subject: Open Shares..A little off topic Message-ID: What a statistically frightening piece of software......... >>> Kevin Wade 10/07/02 17:00:39 >>> Yes. GFI's LanGuard Network Scanner. It is here: http://www.gfi.com/lannetscan/ Worked fine when I tried it some time back. Kevin Wade -------- Original Message: > Does anyone have or know of a utility that checks for open windows shares? > The Elkern Virus has re-appeared on our network and I easily stop the spread > on our netware servers by disabling the user's account as soon as Netshield > alerts me that there is a user infecting files., But these dog gone windows > workstations with open file sharing are hard to track and find. > > John Hanna > Network Services Manager > Coastal Carolina University > PO Box 261954 > Conway, SC 29528-6054 > Phone:(843)349-2150 Fax: (843)349-2990 > Email: John at coastal.edu ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** From jas at DECNS.COM Thu Jul 11 12:21:02 2002 From: jas at DECNS.COM (Jerry Shenk) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 07:21:02 -0400 Subject: Open Shares..A little off topic In-Reply-To: Message-ID: If Languard's Network Scanner doesn't quite automate what you're wanting enough, try Legion. ftp://ftp.technotronic.com/rhino9-products/legion.zip -----Original Message----- From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of John Hanna Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 12:08 PM To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU Subject: Re: Open Shares..A little off topic Thanks Kevin. I found this one a while back too, but have not figured out how to have it show me open shares. It shows all shares whether they are password protected or not. It scans for so many things, which is good, but when I only want to know about open shares, I can't seem to make it only show me this. Full scan is too much information to weed through when I need just the open shares (not password protected). Am I overlooking a config setting on this util? >-----Original Message----- >From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of >Kevin Wade >Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 12:01 PM >To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU >Subject: Re: Open Shares..A little off topic > > >Yes. GFI's LanGuard Network Scanner. It is here: >http://www.gfi.com/lannetscan/ >Worked fine when I tried it some time back. > >Kevin Wade > >-------- Original Message: > >> Does anyone have or know of a utility that checks for open >windows shares? >> The Elkern Virus has re-appeared on our network and I easily >stop the spread >> on our netware servers by disabling the user's account as soon >as Netshield >> alerts me that there is a user infecting files., But these dog >gone windows >> workstations with open file sharing are hard to track and find. >> >> John Hanna >> Network Services Manager >> Coastal Carolina University >> PO Box 261954 >> Conway, SC 29528-6054 >> Phone:(843)349-2150 Fax: (843)349-2990 >> Email: John at coastal.edu > From lindblom at MICO.COM Thu Jul 11 13:33:12 2002 From: lindblom at MICO.COM (lindblom at MICO.COM) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:33:12 -0400 Subject: NW6 SP1 Message-ID: Anyone know why SP1 includes nwdeploy.exe? It doesn't run and when installing the sp1 it doesn't copy it anywhere. John From JRD at CC.USU.EDU Thu Jul 11 13:49:03 2002 From: JRD at CC.USU.EDU (Joe Doupnik) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:49:03 -0400 Subject: NW6 SP1 Message-ID: <01KJYJSJFJO8ADCDSU@cc.usu.edu> >Anyone know why SP1 includes nwdeploy.exe? It doesn't run and when >installing the sp1 it doesn't copy it anywhere. >John ------- Nwdeploy is a tiny front end which uses the large amount of code stored on the NW 6 distribution CD-ROM. Joe D. From lindblom at MICO.COM Thu Jul 11 14:13:45 2002 From: lindblom at MICO.COM (lindblom at MICO.COM) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:13:45 -0400 Subject: NW6 SP1 Message-ID: But in order to use the new nwdeploy.exe, you would have to burn a new NW6 cd and replace the nwdeploy on the cd with the one in the SP1or put it in a directory on the server. Maybe I'm not seeing things clearly. John Joe Doupnik cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: NW6 SP1 Novell LAN Interest Group 07/11/2002 08:48 AM Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group >Anyone know why SP1 includes nwdeploy.exe? It doesn't run and when >installing the sp1 it doesn't copy it anywhere. >John ------- Nwdeploy is a tiny front end which uses the large amount of code stored on the NW 6 distribution CD-ROM. Joe D. From Vince at CO.MPS.K12.VT.US Thu Jul 11 14:34:37 2002 From: Vince at CO.MPS.K12.VT.US (Vince Rossano) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:34:37 -0400 Subject: cifs login Message-ID: >User object "Login" tab shows NDS and Simple password. Cannot select >latter, give the "not available" message. No "menu" is visible. Regarding the "not available" message for simple password: if you try to do this on ConsoleOne at the server, you will get a "not available on this platform" message. You must do it from the management workstation running NT/2000. Vince Rossano Information Technology Director Montpelier Public Schools 58 Barre Street Montpelier, VT 05602 Voice: (802) 229-5355 Fax: (802) 223-6146 Email: vince at mpsvt.org From kmwade at GENDATASYS.COM Thu Jul 11 15:12:19 2002 From: kmwade at GENDATASYS.COM (Kevin Wade) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:12:19 -0400 Subject: Open Shares..A little off topic In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3D2D4BDF.30566.1BFDC15C@localhost> Legion is here now: http://www.nmrc.org/files/snt/legion.zip It does present a nice 'saveable' list that could be used in a batch file for checking share access. Also Mike Glassman's vbscript could be altered to do it. Kevin Wade -------- Original Message: > If Languard's Network Scanner doesn't quite automate what you're wanting > enough, try Legion. > > ftp://ftp.technotronic.com/rhino9-products/legion.zip > > -----Original Message----- > From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of > John Hanna > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 12:08 PM > To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU > Subject: Re: Open Shares..A little off topic > > > Thanks Kevin. I found this one a while back too, but have not figured out > how to have it show me open shares. It shows all shares whether they are > password protected or not. It scans for so many things, which is good, but > when I only want to know about open shares, I can't seem to make it only > show me this. Full scan is too much information to weed through when I need > just the open shares (not password protected). Am I overlooking a config > setting on this util? > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of > >Kevin Wade > >Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 12:01 PM > >To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU > >Subject: Re: Open Shares..A little off topic > > > > > >Yes. GFI's LanGuard Network Scanner. It is here: > >http://www.gfi.com/lannetscan/ > >Worked fine when I tried it some time back. > > > >Kevin Wade > > > >-------- Original Message: > > > >> Does anyone have or know of a utility that checks for open > >windows shares? > >> The Elkern Virus has re-appeared on our network and I easily > >stop the spread > >> on our netware servers by disabling the user's account as soon > >as Netshield > >> alerts me that there is a user infecting files., But these dog > >gone windows > >> workstations with open file sharing are hard to track and find. > >> > >> John Hanna > >> Network Services Manager > >> Coastal Carolina University > >> PO Box 261954 > >> Conway, SC 29528-6054 > >> Phone:(843)349-2150 Fax: (843)349-2990 > >> Email: John at coastal.edu > > From t.cummins at COMPSERV.GLA.AC.UK Thu Jul 11 16:29:04 2002 From: t.cummins at COMPSERV.GLA.AC.UK (Tony Cummins) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:29:04 -0400 Subject: More Arcserve nonsense - this time v6.6 Message-ID: <00fd01c228f0$27954030$9910d182@TONY1> Guys, I'm now getting tapes showing up as Write Protected in the Tape Server view even though they are most definitely not. The tapes in question are in the scratch set for their media pools but are not being recycled as they cannot be formatted in this state. Trying a GFS Perpare/Erase doesn't show them up either. This is starting to get ridiculous - how can someone get away with selling such a piece of crap (allegedly !).....oh, that's right.....microsoft :-))))) Any help on this would be gratefully received, cheers, Tony -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://netlab1.usu.edu/pipermail/novell/attachments/20020711/bdbbd898/attachment.html From dmechaber at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Thu Jul 11 18:23:55 2002 From: dmechaber at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Douglas Mechaber) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:23:55 -0400 Subject: NovaStor References: <20020711040019.SJZV15308.mtiwgwc28.worldnet.att.net@mailer.syr.edu> Message-ID: <003101c22900$eb61f700$bc2a480c@worldnet.att.net> Douglas Mechaber, MCSE, MCNE, CCDA, BCSD ----- Original Message ----- > Re NovaNet For an article I wrote on backup, I received *several* complaints about NovaStor. This was fairly unusual. I was glad I elected not to include it in my roundup. My personal experience was that their tech support was unresponsive to a much earlier edition, and my correspondent had similar problems to yours, as tech support basically told him to change his hardware (or NOS). You might try St Bernard's Open File Manager: it works well with the major backup products; check to see if it integrates with NovaNet. This presupposes that NovaNet will actually handle the double fork entries of Mac files. You should use an OFM type product, anyway. There is a reason most people use the major players: BrightStor (ARCServe), BackupExec, Legato Networker, etc. I know they are a little pricier, but what price can you put on good data backup? For unusual hardware, or bigger sites, you don't have a choice, as these products (and maybe 1-2 others I've forgotten) support more configurations and better integrate multi-server , client backups, etc. The more inconvenient it is, the less likely that someone will actually do it. There are only two kinds of network admins: those who religiously backup, and those who will. > > Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 21:44:39 -0400 > From: Cal Frye > Subject: Re: Arcserve 7 for Netware > > At 09:32 AM 7/10/2002 -0400, you wrote: > > > I have been told that NovaStor v. 8.5 is better than Arcserve or > > Exec - it has already been implemented in several area schools. I'm > > waiting for my > >copy to arrive. For more information contact : NovaStor.com - 80B > >West Cochran - Simi Valley, CA 93065. They have a free demo. Good luck. > > > > > >Richard Manning, CNE > >Network Technician > >Barker Central School District > > Just sent in the PO for NovaNet's site license for Netware and Windows > servers. However, it appears to have troubles with Macintosh filenames > stored on my Windows and Netware boxes. I'm getting files skipped with > complaints of strange characters in filenames and such. > > Anyone with NovaStor experience out there who knows a fix? You name the OS; > I've got users trying to connect it to my servers. > > > --Cal Frye, Network Administrator, Oberlin College > From andersma at HBG.LTH.SE Thu Jul 11 19:02:25 2002 From: andersma at HBG.LTH.SE (Anders =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E5rtensson?=) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:02:25 -0400 Subject: NWDEPLOY Problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020711195802.00bb0918@mail.hbg.lth.se> From what I've managed to find out from Novell support it's Novell Certificate server that complains. One possible cause is an old version of PKI.NLM. See TID 10022294 for more information. (http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/10022294.htm) At 20:07 2002-07-10, lindblom at MICO.COM wrote: I'm doing a test migration from NW5.0 to NW6. The migration went well but now I'm at the point were I'm running NWDEPLOY to install additional products, it connects to the server fine (after entering the IP address) but after selecting all the applications and entering the IP addresses for the Web stuff, I get the following error "An error occurred while attempting to log into Novell Directory Services as admin.test. The error code is :-1228" I have done this before with no problems like this but this test just will not work. I could start over but I would like to find the problem in case it happens during the real migration. From Alan at TORAHAURA.COM Thu Jul 11 19:12:45 2002 From: Alan at TORAHAURA.COM (Alan Rowe) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:12:45 -0400 Subject: Windows XP home Message-ID: I know is is not official supported with client 32 has anyone tried running it and what has happened? From kmwade at GENDATASYS.COM Thu Jul 11 19:39:06 2002 From: kmwade at GENDATASYS.COM (Kevin Wade) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:39:06 -0400 Subject: Windows XP home In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3D2D8A58.10019.1CF1CADD@localhost> Running on a customer machine without problems. Kevin Wade -------- Original Message: > I know is is not official supported with client 32 has anyone tried running it and what has happened? From paul.steele at ACADIAU.CA Thu Jul 11 19:47:19 2002 From: paul.steele at ACADIAU.CA (Paul Steele) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:47:19 -0400 Subject: Windows XP home In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3D2DA8DF.11904.6AF5105@localhost> On 11 Jul 2002 at 11:12, Alan Rowe wrote: > I know is is not official supported with client 32 has anyone tried > running it and what has happened? Someone here on campus is using it and it appears to work... From mossing at RODEM.COM Thu Jul 11 19:49:09 2002 From: mossing at RODEM.COM (Mike Ossing) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:49:09 -0400 Subject: OT - Popup Window Eliminators Message-ID: Hello, Has anyone had any particular successes (or failures) with any of the browser popup window eliminators? Woudl you care to recommend any? Thanks in advance! MikeO From rodent at MILINK.COM Thu Jul 11 22:03:23 2002 From: rodent at MILINK.COM (Chris House) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:03:23 -0400 Subject: OT - Popup Window Eliminators In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020711165838.040a0d18@milink.com> I tried one once, don't remember what it was called though. I stopped using it because it would kill my new webrowser windows, thinking they were popups. See, I have an address bar docked at the bottom of my desktop, that auto disappears. And when I type an address into it and press enter, a new IE window opens and loads the URL. However, the popup-killer application thought it was a popup (and I guess it had no way of really telling if it was legit or not), and it stopped it from happening. So i junked it and haven't tried looking for anything that works properly. Just my 1 cent... At 02:48 PM 7/11/2002 -0400, you wrote: >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Content-Disposition: inline > >Hello, > >Has anyone had any particular successes (or failures) with any of the >browser popup window eliminators? Woudl you care to recommend any? > >Thanks in advance! > >MikeO -- rodent at milink.com -- www: csh.us -- aim: r0dent From mpb at GTY.CI.HENDERSON.NV.US Thu Jul 11 22:45:50 2002 From: mpb at GTY.CI.HENDERSON.NV.US (Michael Balasko) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:45:50 -0400 Subject: OT - Popup Window Eliminators Message-ID: Only one that works right is Popup stopper.....Check out panicware.com Its stops extra instances of explorer.exe.. all you have to do is hold the shift key to open an instance of explorer.... Mike Balasko CCDA, CCNP, MCNE 5, MCP, MCSE2K, SCP, N+, A+ City of Henderson DoIT Network Specialist II ph:702.565.4226 Math illiteracy affects 8 out of every 5 people. >>> rodent at MILINK.COM 07/11/02 02:00PM >>> I tried one once, don't remember what it was called though. I stopped using it because it would kill my new webrowser windows, thinking they were popups. See, I have an address bar docked at the bottom of my desktop, that auto disappears. And when I type an address into it and press enter, a new IE window opens and loads the URL. However, the popup-killer application thought it was a popup (and I guess it had no way of really telling if it was legit or not), and it stopped it from happening. So i junked it and haven't tried looking for anything that works properly. Just my 1 cent... At 02:48 PM 7/11/2002 -0400, you wrote: >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Content-Disposition: inline > >Hello, > >Has anyone had any particular successes (or failures) with any of the >browser popup window eliminators? Woudl you care to recommend any? > >Thanks in advance! > >MikeO -- rodent at milink.com -- www: csh.us -- aim: r0dent From angussf at GEOAPPS.COM Thu Jul 11 23:23:10 2002 From: angussf at GEOAPPS.COM (Angus Scott-Fleming) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:23:10 -0400 Subject: (Fwd) NDS guru wanted Message-ID: <3D2DA2D3.23000.51D9796@localhost> On 10 Jul 2002 at 11:43, novell at lsv.syr.edu wrote: > Got this from an acquaintance in Tucson ... anybody here care > to take this on? Reply offlist and I'll pass your name and > contact info along. He just gave me permission to post his name and contact info, please feel free to contact him directly: "Kenneth Johnson" Ken Johnson Network Engineer Suite 5-110 Medical Faculty Associates 2150 Pennsylvania Ave, NW Washington, DC 20037 Cell: (703) 932-5701 Fax: (202) 741-3640 > Angus > > ------- Forwarded message follows ------- > Date sent: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 16:01:10 -0400 > Subject: NDS guru wanted > > > Hello everyone, > > Hi from Washington D.C. Things are going well here. Hope you > all are healthy, happy and prosperous. > > This is just a follow-up on that SANUG e-mail with a request > to find some other people that I'd tokeep in touchwith > and/or talk with about our network here. > > Does anyone know where Gerard Meyers, Dan Meyersor Matt Mairs > are these days - how to contact them? And, Budd, how about > Herb? (I'm including the SANUG e-mail for Kelly and Rick.) > I'm going to hit the yellow pages search engines, too,as soon > as I send this. > > Thanks, > Ken > > "OK, does anyone know a true Novell DS/OS guru-type > consultantthat could travel to D.C. at least once? We've > gotmany very interesting concerns about migrating froman old > DS tree (where we are currently authenticating with old-style > user names) to a new DS tree (with new-style user names > already in use with the new GroupWise). > > This involves 15 old servers anda legacy file structure > spread across them, an old and a new GroupWise,a fewhundred > printers, printing from a mainframe through Unix Services, an > active Border Manager in the new tree,and several other > considerations includinga third tree as well." > > ------- End of forwarded message ------- > --------------------------------------------------------- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona angussf at geoapps.com 1-520-290-5038 / fax 1-208-248-3124 --------------------------------------------------------- From jfast at DSD.TAS.GOV.AU Fri Jul 12 00:02:28 2002 From: jfast at DSD.TAS.GOV.AU (J Fast) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:02:28 -0400 Subject: W2K slow with WAN connected Network Drive Message-ID: Hi, I am attempting to locate a solution for a problem which has been plaguing me for awhile now. I have a number of remote sites, all but one is currently running Windows NT on the desktop. The other one has a variety of Win95, Win2K, WinNT, there is a variety of clients from 4.71 to 4.83(patched with nwfs.sys). I have setup a couple of shared drives from our central office Netware 5 SP6A server to all of my remote offices, with Windows NT and 95 there is no issue, however with Windows 2000 whenever Windows explorer opens or opening or saving a file using any of the Office 97 suite of products off the local server there is a time delay of up to about 30 seconds. It is almost as though Windows 2000 is going and checking each and every network drive path to ensure it is still available before continuing with the current operation. I have attempted all the ithowto speed patches/tips, along with the cool solutions tips and have even reapplied Win2K SP2 to no avail. I have also checked the KB with nothing of significance found to correct this as of yet. The windows 2000 machines also had this problem when they had Client 4.71, upgrading to 4.83 only temporarily helped but it still wasn't as quick as it is in the central office. The only thing that has worked so far is disconnecting the shared drives which improves performance and therefore removes the time delay problem. Has anyone else come across this or have a solution to it I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks, John ************************************************************************** The information in this email transmission is intended solely for use by the individual(s) named as the recipient(s), and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient any use, disclosure or copying of this document is prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately. ************************************************************************** From Jaspreet.Singh at TEAM.TELSTRA.COM Fri Jul 12 01:14:09 2002 From: Jaspreet.Singh at TEAM.TELSTRA.COM (Singh, Jaspreet [TES]) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:14:09 -0400 Subject: SLP version info Message-ID: <61411576E951D211AF330008C7245DD90CAFB119@ntmsg0005.corpmail.telstra.com.au> Hi, What version of SLP (ver1 or 2) is used in eDirectory 8.5 and 8.6.2? Thanks From JRD at CC.USU.EDU Fri Jul 12 02:57:53 2002 From: JRD at CC.USU.EDU (Joe Doupnik) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:57:53 -0400 Subject: SLP version info Message-ID: <01KJZBDBTEHKADCDWJ@cc.usu.edu> >What version of SLP (ver1 or 2) is used in eDirectory 8.5 and 8.6.2? > >Thanks -------------- One can't tell because it is not dependent on NDS version. NW 6 uses SLP v2, NW 5.x uses SLP v1. Joe D. From zzz at MCTC.MNSCU.EDU Fri Jul 12 04:14:52 2002 From: zzz at MCTC.MNSCU.EDU (zzz) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 23:14:52 -0400 Subject: NW6 CD overlay source file Message-ID: Hi, Can anyone tell me which file to download to make a simple NW6 english overlay CD to be used for upgrading from NW51 to NW6. I see several options on the novell site for english and another language, but none that are english-only. Or, do they all work? Thanks Dana From lholling at ATTGLOBAL.NET Fri Jul 12 04:20:56 2002 From: lholling at ATTGLOBAL.NET (Leonard Holling) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 23:20:56 -0400 Subject: NW6 CD overlay source file References: Message-ID: <3D2E4B11.9040608@attglobal.net> They all work equally well for English. Leonard... zzz wrote: >Hi, > >Can anyone tell me which file to download to make a simple NW6 english overlay CD to be used for upgrading from NW51 to NW6. > >I see several options on the novell site for english and another language, but none that are english-only. > >Or, do they all work? > >Thanks > >Dana > > > > From zzz at MCTC.MNSCU.EDU Fri Jul 12 04:39:37 2002 From: zzz at MCTC.MNSCU.EDU (zzz) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 23:39:37 -0400 Subject: NW6 CD overlay source file Message-ID: Thanks for the quick reply. I will go with the English - Spanish download and see what happens. Dana >>> Leonard Holling 07/11/02 10:20PM >>> They all work equally well for English. Leonard... zzz wrote: >Hi, > >Can anyone tell me which file to download to make a simple NW6 english overlay CD to be used for upgrading from NW51 to NW6. > >I see several options on the novell site for english and another language, but none that are english-only. > >Or, do they all work? > >Thanks > >Dana > > > > From Jaspreet.Singh at TEAM.TELSTRA.COM Fri Jul 12 05:17:56 2002 From: Jaspreet.Singh at TEAM.TELSTRA.COM (Singh, Jaspreet [TES]) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 00:17:56 -0400 Subject: SLP version info Message-ID: <61411576E951D211AF330008C7245DD90CAFB11A@ntmsg0005.corpmail.telstra.com.au> Hi Joe, Hoped it would be mentioned somewhere. I will try to determine this by capturing a trace. I think the SLP header may contain some version information. While we have you there Joe another ques: SLP v1 does not specify any DA-DA communication for exchange of service registrations. Does this mean that if want a full network wide services registration database we need to have DA's servicing all scopes. For eg consider we have 2 scopes - Scope_A (serviced by DA_A & DA_B) and Scope_B (serviced by DA_A & DA_B). In this case eventually Scope_A and Scope_B will (should) contain same registrations. How is the situation different in SLP v2. In this case do Scope_A(serviced by DA_A) and Scope_B(serviced by DA_B) automatically synchronize their service registration databases. Thanks in advance <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< < >What version of SLP (ver1 or 2) is used in eDirectory 8.5 and 8.6.2? > >Thanks -------------- One can't tell because it is not dependent on NDS version. NW 6 uses SLP v2, NW 5.x uses SLP v1. Joe D. From tim.clarke at MANIFEST.CO.UK Fri Jul 12 09:10:29 2002 From: tim.clarke at MANIFEST.CO.UK (Tim Clarke) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 04:10:29 -0400 Subject: OT - Popup Window Eliminators In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20020712090325.00a74880@man3> Change your browser. Opera has a feature (two keystrokes to change the setting) and so does Mozilla. A little browsodiversity will be good for the industry too... At 14:45 11/07/2002 -0700, you wrote: >Only one that works right is Popup stopper.....Check out panicware.com >Its stops extra instances of explorer.exe.. all you have to do is hold the >shift key >to open an instance of explorer.... > >Mike Balasko CCDA, CCNP, MCNE 5, MCP, MCSE2K, SCP, N+, A+ Tim Clarke AMBCS MIAP IT Director Manifest 9 Freebournes Court Newland Street Witham, Essex CM8 2BL England Phone: +44 1376 503500 Fax: +44 1376 503550 Email: tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk Web: http://www.manifest.co.uk Manifest is the trading name of: Manifest Information Services Ltd: Registered in England Number 3401145 & The Manifest Voting Agency Ltd: Registered in England Number 2920820 Registered Office at above address Copyright: This e-mail may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you are not the named addressee you must not use or disclose such information, instead please report it to admin at manifest.co.uk. Please see http://www.manifest.co.uk/privacy_policy.htm#e-mail for further information. From dbphilos at RZ.UNI-DUESSELDORF.DE Fri Jul 12 09:59:25 2002 From: dbphilos at RZ.UNI-DUESSELDORF.DE (Hans Nellissen) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 04:59:25 -0400 Subject: Windows XP home In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020712105521.02017b30@mail.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de> At 11:12 11.07.2002 -0700, you wrote: >I know is is not official supported with client 32 has anyone tried >running it and what has happened? Yes, I do it with client v 4.80 . Login-time is very (>= 2 minutes) long, mapping does it sometimes, sometimes not. Installed PcAnywhere vers. 10 doesn't funtion properly after install client32. Hans Nellissen ---------------------------------------------------------------- Heinrich-Heine-Universitaet Email:dbphilos at mail.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de Meinungsaeusserungen im vorliegenden Text stellen allein den Standpunkt des Autors dar und lassen keine Rueckschluesse auf seinen Arbeitgeber zu. Expressions of opinion in the available text represent only the point of view of the author and permit no conclusions on its employer. From AHidalgo at SALUD.UNM.EDU Fri Jul 12 13:59:34 2002 From: AHidalgo at SALUD.UNM.EDU (Al Hidalgo) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 08:59:34 -0400 Subject: NW6 Web Access Login Message-ID: I have a server that I am testing Web Access with. It's NW 6 with SP1. LDAP clear text is not being allowed. Here is what happens: First off, I can only login using ldap syntax such as cn=ahidalgo,ou=xxx,ect. I can't login with a CN or DN eDirectory name. Secondly when I do login, I do not get any gadgets, all I get is the logout button. I can login into NetStorage with .ahidalgo.employee.xxx.xxx.ect What am I doing wrong? Thanks, Al From JRD at CC.USU.EDU Fri Jul 12 14:06:43 2002 From: JRD at CC.USU.EDU (Joe Doupnik) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:06:43 -0400 Subject: SLP version info Message-ID: <01KJZYH3OWQ0ADCF5P@cc.usu.edu> >Hi Joe, >Hoped it would be mentioned somewhere. I will try to determine this by >capturing a trace. I think the SLP header may contain some version >information. >While we have you there Joe another ques: > >SLP v1 does not specify any DA-DA communication for exchange of service >registrations. Does this mean that if want a full network wide services >registration database we need to have DA's servicing all scopes. For eg >consider we have 2 scopes - Scope_A (serviced by DA_A & DA_B) and Scope_B >(serviced by DA_A & DA_B). In this case eventually Scope_A and Scope_B will >(should) contain same registrations. > >How is the situation different in SLP v2. In this case do Scope_A(serviced >by DA_A) and Scope_B(serviced by DA_B) automatically synchronize their >service registration databases. > >Thanks in advance ------------ Some cryptic (and likely misspelled) comments while I am in a week's long meeting with Novell in Boston. SLP's broad and multicasts do not work between SLP versions. Unicasts do work. Directory Agents don't know about other DAs, even though the data is held in NDS (right beside the server object, by default). We can have Service Agents unicast to various DAs by using etc\slp.cfg. We can tell a DA to service more than one SLP NDS container object (use nwadmin32 or ConsoleOne). Best to not mix Scopes in one DA. But today SLP v2 requires an explicit non-empty Scope (defaults to DEFAULT). SLP v1 defaults to an empty scope, which SLP v2 ignores. Scopes are intended as regionalizing devices, so it is best to keep them regional and isolated. SLP v2 ships in NW 6, v1 in NW 5. Both are described in RFCs, but those are wishy-washy chat docs. Joe D. From cjf at CALFRYE.COM Fri Jul 12 14:10:05 2002 From: cjf at CALFRYE.COM (Cal Frye) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:10:05 -0400 Subject: OT - Popup Window Eliminators In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020712090808.01f92240@imap.calfrye.com> Ad-Subtract Pro does it for me. Yes, sometimes new windows are blocked, but a right-click on the link and an explicit "load in new window" command makes it happen. Ad-Subtract is configurable on a site-by-site basis, and also blocks cookies and inline advertisements. Worth the $15... At 02:48 PM 7/11/2002 -0400, you wrote: >Hello, > >Has anyone had any particular successes (or failures) with any of the >browser popup window eliminators? Woudl you care to recommend any? > >Thanks in advance! > >MikeO --Cal Frye, Network Administrator, Oberlin College "A witty saying proves nothing." - Voltaire (1694-1778) From Frank.Wils at EUROMAIL.NL Fri Jul 12 14:20:05 2002 From: Frank.Wils at EUROMAIL.NL (Frank Wils) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:20:05 -0400 Subject: Netware 6 & Netscape 6/7 References: <3D13185E00002CA2@mail.euromail.nl> (added by marco.van.vliet@euromail.nl) Message-ID: <3D2ED7EC.5090405@euromail.nl> Members of the list, Again I have to ask for your kind help... :-) I have a problem using Netscape 6 and 7 Mail with Netware 6. The problem I have is, that older mails seem to have disappeared from the mailboxes and some mailboxes can't be opened at all. The mailboxes are on a netware-drive When I try to copy them via Console1 I get the message "Unable to move/copy file". Anybody else who had this problem? Any ideas? I have loaded NW6SP1, the later NSS update and the new FILESYS.NLM, but to no result. As a side-problem. I also have a directory which has user-directories in them. I can see directories starting with A to K, but not L to Z, while they are there. I can see them in Console1, and all attributes seem to be the same. I have Supervisor right on all directories... Thanks in advance for any ideas! Frank Wils System Engineer EuroMail IT Services Waddinxveen, The Netherlands From ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU Fri Jul 12 14:29:12 2002 From: ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU (Joe Acquisto) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:29:12 -0400 Subject: Off Topic - Popup Window Eliminators Message-ID: I just bought (no, really) ZoneAlarm 3 something, plus their "pest patrol". Since I had been using ZA as a freebie for so long, and they have a special on the two (under $50.00), I bit. Seems to work reasonably well. Their "firewall" is supposed to be best of breed. ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin, 1755 --------------------------------------------------- >>> DAbernathy at claytoncorp.com 07/12/02 09:07AM >>> I use both Analogix's Pow! (which someone else already mentioned), and AdSubtract (bought for $20). >>> mossing at rodem.com 07/11/02 01:43PM >>> Hello, Has anyone had any particular successes (or failures) with any of the browser popup window eliminators? Woudl you care to recommend any? Thanks in advance! MikeO -- GroupWise Specific Solutions for Anti-Virus/Spam, Fax, Archiving & more Cool Tools & Downloads + Expert Advisors www.gwtools.com Visit http://www.ngwlist.com to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- GroupWise Specific Solutions for Anti-Virus/Spam, Fax, Archiving & more Cool Tools & Downloads + Expert Advisors www.gwtools.com Visit http://www.ngwlist.com to subscribe or unsubscribe. From ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU Fri Jul 12 14:46:27 2002 From: ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU (Joe Acquisto) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:46:27 -0400 Subject: cifs login Message-ID: Thanks. Indeed, the need for a PC was also pointed out off list by a couple of folks. I must have missed that in the Doc's. joea/ ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin, 1755 --------------------------------------------------- >>> Vince at CO.MPS.K12.VT.US 07/11/02 08:23AM >>> >User object "Login" tab shows NDS and Simple password. Cannot select >latter, give the "not available" message. No "menu" is visible. Regarding the "not available" message for simple password: if you try to do this on ConsoleOne at the server, you will get a "not available on this platform" message. You must do it from the management workstation running NT/2000. Vince Rossano Information Technology Director Montpelier Public Schools 58 Barre Street Montpelier, VT 05602 Voice: (802) 229-5355 Fax: (802) 223-6146 Email: vince at mpsvt.org From NetAdmin at KRLEGAL.COM Fri Jul 12 14:58:52 2002 From: NetAdmin at KRLEGAL.COM (John Namias) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:58:52 -0400 Subject: Rejected posting to NOVELL@LSV.SYR.EDU Message-ID: I clipped the message so that I wouldn't give more exposure to this sleeze. Has anyone found a way to stop or filter this type of SPAM? Thanks, John >>> LISTSERV at LSV.SYR.EDU 7/11/2002 2:31:25 AM >>> You are not authorized to send mail to the NOVELL list from your novell at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU account. You might be authorized to send to the list from another of your accounts, or perhaps when using another mail program which generates slightly different addresses, but LISTSERV has no way to associate this other account or address with yours. 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URL: http://netlab1.usu.edu/pipermail/novell/attachments/20020712/8c93e8da/attachment.html From DManning at BARK.WNYRIC.ORG Fri Jul 12 15:10:59 2002 From: DManning at BARK.WNYRIC.ORG (Dick Manning) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:10:59 -0400 Subject: Arcserve - write protected Message-ID: Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:10:59 -0400 From: Tony Cummins Subject: More Arcserve nonsense - this time v6.6 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00FA_01C228F8.894A65F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Guys, I'm now getting tapes showing up as Write Protected in the Tape Server = view even though they are most definitely not. The tapes in question are = in the scratch set for their media pools but are not being recycled as = they cannot be formatted in this state. Trying a GFS Perpare/Erase = doesn't show them up either. This is starting to get ridiculous - how = can someone get away with selling such a piece of crap (allegedly = !).....oh, that's right.....microsoft :-))))) Any help on this would be gratefully received, cheers, Tony ********************** Tony, I had a similar problem with Arcserve when switching from token ring to ethernet. It had to do with block size on the tape. Working with CA support I was able to reformat most of the tapes from the server console. This could not be done from Arcserve manager on the workstation. Try going to Arcserve Tape Server, Tape Device Management, and try erase or format. If using a changer, you might have to "change loaded tape" even if the correct tape is loaded. If you still have problems you might need to call CA for help. Good luck! Richard Manning, CNE Network Technician Barker Central School District 1628 Quaker Road Barker, NY 14012 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://netlab1.usu.edu/pipermail/novell/attachments/20020712/426fb2b6/attachment.html From tim.clarke at MANIFEST.CO.UK Fri Jul 12 15:30:15 2002 From: tim.clarke at MANIFEST.CO.UK (Tim Clarke) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:30:15 -0400 Subject: Rejected posting to NOVELL@LSV.SYR.EDU In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20020712152708.00aeb958@man3> The mechanism is a bit more intelligent, seems to be using the List Server to bounce mail back as unsent. Is this a way of bypassing relay rules anyone? At 08:57 12/07/2002 -0600, you wrote: >I clipped the message so that I wouldn't give more exposure to this >sleeze. Has anyone found a way to stop or filter this type of SPAM? > >Thanks, >John > > >>> LISTSERV at LSV.SYR.EDU 7/11/2002 2:31:25 AM >>> >You are not authorized to send mail to the NOVELL list from >your >novell at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU account. You might be authorized to send to the >list Tim Clarke AMBCS MIAP IT Director Manifest 9 Freebournes Court Newland Street Witham, Essex CM8 2BL England Phone: +44 1376 503500 Fax: +44 1376 503550 Email: tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk Web: http://www.manifest.co.uk Manifest is the trading name of: Manifest Information Services Ltd: Registered in England Number 3401145 & The Manifest Voting Agency Ltd: Registered in England Number 2920820 Registered Office at above address Copyright: This e-mail may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you are not the named addressee you must not use or disclose such information, instead please report it to admin at manifest.co.uk. Please see http://www.manifest.co.uk/privacy_policy.htm#e-mail for further information. From ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU Fri Jul 12 19:30:56 2002 From: ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU (Joe Acquisto) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:30:56 -0400 Subject: cifs login Message-ID: Thanks to all assistance, seems to work fine now. Dare I say it was "very simple"?. Yes, I dare. However, I'm now faced with the apparent oddness that the NDS and "simple" password are not matched, that is, they appear to be separate NDS values (objects even). It seems that a person that wishes to log in to a Netware server running CIFS, using the MS client for MS networking, will have a password that is distinct from the "Novell" style NDS password. Seems that they cannot be "synched" and must be administered individually. Further, I just expired the test users password (N-NDS) and it did not seem to affect the simple (MS-NDS) password, so it seems the NDS password security policy is of no effect on the simple password. Seems a bit funky to me. What am I missing? joea/ >>> ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU 07/12/02 09:46AM >>> Thanks. Indeed, the need for a PC was also pointed out off list by a couple of folks. I must have missed that in the Doc's. joea/ ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin, 1755 --------------------------------------------------- >>> Vince at CO.MPS.K12.VT.US 07/11/02 08:23AM >>> >User object "Login" tab shows NDS and Simple password. Cannot select >latter, give the "not available" message. No "menu" is visible. Regarding the "not available" message for simple password: if you try to do this on ConsoleOne at the server, you will get a "not available on this platform" message. You must do it from the management workstation running NT/2000. Vince Rossano Information Technology Director Montpelier Public Schools 58 Barre Street Montpelier, VT 05602 Voice: (802) 229-5355 Fax: (802) 223-6146 Email: vince at mpsvt.org From Chuck_Betz at MOED.USCOURTS.GOV Fri Jul 12 19:56:43 2002 From: Chuck_Betz at MOED.USCOURTS.GOV (Chuck Betz) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:56:43 -0400 Subject: Arcserve - write protected Message-ID: Had the problem a while back. Turning the tape drive off and back on solved it a couple of times. Helps if you have external tape drives though. Other times I had to also unload and reload Arcserve. Chuck Betz Network Administrator U.S. District Court, Eastern Missouri 314-244-7812 IT's not just a job, IT's an adventure. Dick Manning Sent by: Novell LAN Interest Group 07/12/2002 09:12 AM Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU cc: Subject: Arcserve - write protected Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:56:43 -0400 From: Tony Cummins Subject: More Arcserve nonsense - this time v6.6 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00FA_01C228F8.894A65F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Guys, I'm now getting tapes showing up as Write Protected in the Tape Server = view even though they are most definitely not. The tapes in question are = in the scratch set for their media pools but are not being recycled as = they cannot be formatted in this state. Trying a GFS Perpare/Erase = doesn't show them up either. This is starting to get ridiculous - how = can someone get away with selling such a piece of crap (allegedly = !).....oh, that's right.....microsoft :-))))) Any help on this would be gratefully received, cheers, Tony ********************** Tony, I had a similar problem with Arcserve when switching from token ring to ethernet. It had to do with block size on the tape. Working with CA support I was able to reformat most of the tapes from the server console. This could not be done from Arcserve manager on the workstation. Try going to Arcserve Tape Server, Tape Device Management, and try erase or format. If using a changer, you might have to "change loaded tape" even if the correct tape is loaded. If you still have problems you might need to call CA for help. Good luck! Richard Manning, CNE Network Technician Barker Central School District 1628 Quaker Road Barker, NY 14012 From jas at DECNS.COM Fri Jul 12 20:18:40 2002 From: jas at DECNS.COM (Jerry Shenk) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 15:18:40 -0400 Subject: No subject Message-ID: I have a customer that is running Netware 5.1 and they have a Groupwise WebAccess server that is using a certificate from their internal CA and that's working great. They'd like to stop paying Verisign for the certificate on their web server that's running IIS. I think I should be able to do this but I can't figure out how. If I export the request from the IIS box, I get a pki error when I try to import it in Console One. Does anyone have any ideas for me? Somebody last week said that they are doing it....I can't get it working and I've looked all over and can't find any instructions on how to make it work either. -------------------------------------------------------------- Jerry A. Shenk - MCNE, CCNA, GCIA (GIAC Certified Intrusion Analyst) GCIH (GIAC Certified Intrusion Handler) Sr. Systems Engineer - Computer Networking Services D&E Networks, Inc. jshenk at decommunications.com (also jas at decns.com) 1-877-433-8632 Fax via efax: (253) 323-5149 (new number 6/9/01) my website: http://jerryslinux.dyndns.org/jas - PGP sig. file on this site From dmechaber at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Fri Jul 12 21:17:11 2002 From: dmechaber at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Douglas Mechaber) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 16:17:11 -0400 Subject: NW6 Q based printing upgrade failure; HP JetAdmin 3.4 or newer? References: <20020712040002.GDTT6157.mtiwgwc28.worldnet.att.net@mailer.syr.edu> Message-ID: <002501c229e2$49afc940$4b2f480c@worldnet.att.net> I have a client who is upgrading their 3.12 server to NW6. The use queue based IPX printing on a mix of HP LJs, Okidata line printers, and special lable printers (generic). They are switching out a mix of Intel NetPort and HP print servers to all HP JetDirect, so there is considerable age variance in HP JetDirect external and internal models. The queues don't migrate properly. Re TID 10026998 for 5.x, we deleted all print objects and recreated everything with JetAdmin, 3.05. For a while, we were able to capture queues, until we added a second external JetAdmin server (different printer). Then we saw 0x17 (?, not 13, indicating connected)under bindery object, indicating not connected. Basically, communications became flaky with the second addition. It was not a license issue. Both JetDirects were 500ex or 500 internal, with 8.20 firmware (TID 10016807). Either a TID (10020392) or HP doc indicated that we would be better off with HP JetAdmin 3.4 or later, which is no longer available. Does anyone have this - last version was 3.42, I think. HP now recommends Web JetAdmin; (novell rec. 3.4+) HP has a doc that shows Web JetAdmin's ok for bindery queue printing, but when we tried this, the queue appeared not to even set up properly. My best guess is that the NetGear switches they are using are not transmitting SAP or SPX properly. I was unable to determine or find out how many hops were involved, except that the first printer probably involved two hops to the server. A TID (10016807) shows that most protocol analyzers will not properly show queue based print traffic, so that's not an option. When client tried this previously, queues migrated OKwhen server and printers moved to same switch. They are purchasing an HP ProCurve switch to replace all the NetGear stuff, and we'll try again. Any hints or clues? And does anyone have JetAdmin 3.4+? Please email it to me, or send me a link; if it's too large, I'll provide an alternate email. Thank you, this one has me stumped. And yes, the client needs queues, won't move to ndps until this is working, and doesn't yet want to go to pure ip until all the previous is working well. Douglas Mechaber, MCSE, MCNE, CCDA, BCSD DMechaber at worldnet.att.net (310) 393-9835 (USA) From Xiaowei.Cao at STATE.MN.US Fri Jul 12 21:45:39 2002 From: Xiaowei.Cao at STATE.MN.US (Xiaowei Cao) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 16:45:39 -0400 Subject: nprinter for windows xp Message-ID: <3D2EF863.922.91AFAB82@localhost> We have a windows 95 computer that has nprinter manager installed. Now we will replace the computer with a new one windows Xp. I wonder if I can install NPRINTER for NT - TID2943059 (last modified 19NOV1998)on the new computer or not. I think it works OK for windowsNT or 2000, but does any one know it also works for Windows XP, anything I should pay attention to? Thanks Xiaowei From JRD at CC.USU.EDU Fri Jul 12 22:50:57 2002 From: JRD at CC.USU.EDU (Joe Doupnik) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:50:57 -0400 Subject: cifs login Message-ID: <01KK0GSBMXYGADCFMB@cc.usu.edu> >Thanks to all assistance, seems to work fine now. Dare I say it was >"very simple"?. Yes, I dare. > >However, I'm now faced with the apparent oddness that the NDS and >"simple" password are not matched, that is, they appear to be separate >NDS values (objects even). > >It seems that a person that wishes to log in to a Netware server >running CIFS, using the MS client for MS networking, will have a >password that is distinct from the "Novell" style NDS password. > >Seems that they cannot be "synched" and must be administered >individually. Further, I just expired the test users password (N-NDS) >and it did not seem to affect the simple (MS-NDS) password, so it seems >the NDS password security policy is of no effect on the simple >password. > >Seems a bit funky to me. What am I missing? > >joea/ ------------ I thought I explained this earlier in the week. Windows automatically sends the Windows username and password in CIFS connection requests. The password is encrypted by Windows. Novell would be in legal trouble converting it back to plaintext. Instead, NW stores the Windows encrypted form as the "simple password" and compares it to what the Windows machine supplies at CIFS login time. The check becomes a simple pattern match, choosing the username offered by Windows to look up the matching NDS username's properties. NDS passwords are a totally separate matter. CIFS password changes are absorbed by NW as a change of simple password, provided the change is done while logged in via CIFS. Joe D From sconnell at DIPIX.COM Sat Jul 13 01:31:37 2002 From: sconnell at DIPIX.COM (Shawn Connelly) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 20:31:37 -0400 Subject: Upgrading server Message-ID: Well, I believe it is time to upgrade our old but chugging along server. Currently, I am using the following: CPU - PII 450MHz Board - Intel 440BX motherboard Memory - 256Mb x 2 DIMM PC133 RAID - DPT SmartCache IV HDs - Seagate Barracuda 18gb x 5 NOS - Netware 5.0 This system has been reliably supporting 72 workstations but it is slow, sometimes painfully slow despite all the Netware tweaking I've done! I realize the major reason for the slow speed is in the hard drive technology. I plan to upgrade to Netware 6 plus the following (suggestions welcome): - An Intel PIII capable motherboard. I was considering a dual PIII board such as the SLT2 server board. Is there any significant benefit to a dual processor board that would justify the additional costs? I cannot use a P4 board because of the non-compatible chassis and redundant power supply investment. - Memory Increase memory by 256Mb - RAID - I need to upgrade the fastest SCSI RAID solution that my company can afford! Currently, I am looking at the Adaptec 2100S Ultra160 SCSI 32bit controller w/128Mb ECC memory. Or I could go with the 2110S which is limited to 32Mb but is a 64bit PCI card. Which is better?? - HDs - Definitely stay with Seagate. I'm very happy with their individual performance. - NOS - upgrade to Novell 6.0 as soon as evaluate the real benefits. Any suggestions will be appreciated. Thank you, Shawn ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Shawn Connelly, Network Engineer. Dipix Technologies Inc. From acquistj at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU Sat Jul 13 03:20:51 2002 From: acquistj at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU (Joe Acquisto) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 22:20:51 -0400 Subject: cifs login Message-ID: >I thought I explained this earlier in the week. Yes, you did and it was interesting and clear. >NDS passwords are a totally separate matter. >CIFS password changes are absorbed by NW as a change >>>of simple password, provided the change is done >while logged in via CIFS. Let my try to explain my concerns more clearly. The simple password apparently has no provision for setting an expiration cycle, forcing a minimum length, or for intruder detection. It seems to me that allowing CIFS type logins, in this manner, is "dumbing down" some aspects of LAN security related to password parameters, if that is the correct word. These "missing features" are what concern me. Did I miss something, or is a product enhancement request on tap? joea/ From zzz at MCTC.MNSCU.EDU Sat Jul 13 03:48:01 2002 From: zzz at MCTC.MNSCU.EDU (zzz) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 22:48:01 -0400 Subject: NW6 overlay and COMPAQ smart start install Message-ID: Hi folks, FYI heads up , but comment if you have ideas. I installed my first NW6 production server tonight using COMPAQ Smart Start 5.40 on a COMPAQ DL380 with the latest firmware upgrades, and using the NW6 CD overlay image CD I created from the NOVELL download. All went well until the install reboot, when I got INVALID SYSTEM DISK. Somehow, smartstart did not create the DOS boot partition properly. COMPAQ support indicated they had not heard of this problem (surprise, surprise) and suggested I reinstall. I was able to get the server back on line tonight by booting from the NW overlay CD, so I know the NW install worked OK. I will do a remove and reinstall Saturday, but I may choose to bypass the Smart Start method and boot direct from the overlay CD, as I this method worked on several test servers. Once again, just a heads up, but please comment if you have some ideas. Thanks Dana From JRD at CC.USU.EDU Sat Jul 13 04:25:14 2002 From: JRD at CC.USU.EDU (Joe Doupnik) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 23:25:14 -0400 Subject: cifs login Message-ID: <01KK0SPGVOEAADCG65@cc.usu.edu> >>I thought I explained this earlier in the week. > >Yes, you did and it was interesting and clear. > >>NDS passwords are a totally separate matter. >>CIFS password changes are absorbed by NW as a change >>>of simple >password, provided the change is done >>while logged in via CIFS. > >Let my try to explain my concerns more clearly. > >The simple password apparently has no provision for setting an >expiration cycle, forcing a minimum length, or for intruder detection. > >It seems to me that allowing CIFS type logins, in this manner, is >"dumbing down" some aspects of LAN security related to password >parameters, if that is the correct word. > >These "missing features" are what concern me. > >Did I miss something, or is a product enhancement request on tap? > >joea/ --------------- Right. "Fixed in the next release" is a likely answer, but I have none to offer at this time. Joe D. From tch at IQX.CO.UK Sat Jul 13 11:00:54 2002 From: tch at IQX.CO.UK (Tim Heywood) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 06:00:54 -0400 Subject: NW6 overlay and COMPAQ smart start install Message-ID: I have done DL380's and ML370's with the 5.40 Smartstart without problems, wired! Tim ************************* Tim Heywood Scotland (God's Country) ************************* From G.Ross at CCW.GOV.UK Sat Jul 13 20:23:57 2002 From: G.Ross at CCW.GOV.UK (Gordon Ross) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 15:23:57 -0400 Subject: NW6 overlay and COMPAQ smart start install Message-ID: Double check the boot controller settings in the BIOS GTG Gordon Ross, Network Manager/Rheolwr Rhydwaith Countryside Council for Wales/Cyngor Cefn Gwlad Cymru >>> zzz at MCTC.MNSCU.EDU 07/13/02 03:49 AM >>> Hi folks, FYI heads up , but comment if you have ideas. I installed my first NW6 production server tonight using COMPAQ Smart Start 5.40 on a COMPAQ DL380 with the latest firmware upgrades, and using the NW6 CD overlay image CD I created from the NOVELL download. All went well until the install reboot, when I got INVALID SYSTEM DISK. Somehow, smartstart did not create the DOS boot partition properly. COMPAQ support indicated they had not heard of this problem (surprise, surprise) and suggested I reinstall. I was able to get the server back on line tonight by booting from the NW overlay CD, so I know the NW install worked OK. I will do a remove and reinstall Saturday, but I may choose to bypass the Smart Start method and boot direct from the overlay CD, as I this method worked on several test servers. Once again, just a heads up, but please comment if you have some ideas. Thanks Dana From john at COASTAL.EDU Sun Jul 14 02:29:47 2002 From: john at COASTAL.EDU (John Hanna) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 21:29:47 -0400 Subject: Open Shares..A little off topic In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1026610154.3d30d3eace176@mail.coastal.edu> Thanks Mike, I will try this when I get back from vacation. Quoting Mike Glassman - Admin : > I am pasting a VBS script which will do something like what you want. > > If you know scripting, you can expand on this to do more. > > It's one I found somewhere or other and is very nice indeed. > > Simply change the domain name to fit your domain, and the path to the log > file in the script and save it with a VBS extension (obviously), run it and > wait till it's done. > > Mike > > > '***************************************************************************** ***** > '* This script will connect to every machine in a domain (defined in AD or > Server * > '* Manager) and enumerate any non-admin (i.e. c$, admin$) file shares. It > outputs * > '* this info to a text file so that you can review or save for records/audit. > * > '* The script will use either a domain specified in the script or from a > command * > '* line argument > * > '***************************************************************************** ***** > > Dim FileSys, ComputerName, info, CpuNameText, text, text1, ArgObj, DomName > > Set FileSys = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject") 'set the > filessytem object > Set TxtFile = FileSys.CreateTextFile("c:\shares.txt", True) 'open > text file > Set ArgObj = Wscript.Arguments > > On error resume next 'specify to continue running in the event of an error > i.e. system could not be contacted > > msgbox "About to process script." & vbcrlf & vbcrlf & "Depending on the > number of systems, this may take a long time." & vbcrlf & vbcrlf & "Please be > patient...",64 > > 'set the domain name variable. Replace as needed > DomName = "YOUR-DOMAIN-HERE" > 'check to see if there was a command line argument > For I = 0 to ArgObj.Count - 1 > DomName = ArgObj(I) > next > > 'set the default domain to search based on either the domain in the script or > the command line argument > Set domain = getobject("WinNT://" & DomName) > > wscript.echo DomName > 'wscript.Quit > For each computer in domain 'start a loop to read all the machines in the > domain > > if computer.class = "Computer" then 'start an if..then loop to > check all the systems in the domain > > CpuNameText = text & computer.name & vbcrlf 'set a variable > to contain the computer name > ComputerName = "WinNT://" & DomName & "/" & > lcase(computer.name) & "/lanmanserver" 'specify the computer to do a share > search on > > If lcase(computer.name) <> "exclude" then 'start a loop to > check the shares on all the computers > Set fserv = GetObject(ComputerName) > > For each share in fserv 'start a loop checking each > share listed. This loop continues for all the shares on a computer before it > exists. > If Err <> 0 then 'check to see if > there was an error connecting and set text1 to the first entry if there was > text1 = vbtab & "There was an error > connecting to this system." & vbcrlf & vbtab & "Verify that the system is > online and operational may be win9X." & vbcrlf > else 'if there was > not an error, then set text1 as below > text1 = text1 & vbtab & share.name & > vbcrlf > end if > next > > If text1 = "" then 'check the value of test1. If it > was blank, set text as below > text = CpuNameText & vbtab & "There were no > shares on this system." & vbcrlf > else 'otherwise, set text > as below > text = CpuNameText & Text1 > End if > > comp = text 'set comp > TxtFile.writeline(comp) 'write the content of > comp to the texfile > set comp = nothing 'the next 4 lines > clear all the variables for a computer before > text = "" 'the computer loop > exits and moves to the next computer > text1 = "" > CpuNameText = "" > err.Clear > end if 'end the loop on a > computer and move to the next one. > end if 'end the loop > checking all the computers > Next 'end the loop reading > all the computers > TxtFile.Close 'close the text file > wscript.echo "All Done!" & vbcrlf & vbcrlf & "See file shares.txt for result" > 'signify the end of the script processing. > > > > > -----Original Message-----> > > From: John Hanna [SMTP:John at COASTAL.EDU] > > Sent: a eaie 10 2002 17:19 > > To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU > > Subject: Open Shares..A little off topic > > > > Does anyone have or know of a utility that checks for open windows > shares? > > The Elkern Virus has re-appeared on our network and I easily stop the > spread > > on our netware servers by disabling the user's account as soon as > Netshield > > alerts me that there is a user infecting files., But these dog gone > windows > > workstations with open file sharing are hard to track and find. > > > > John Hanna > > Network Services Manager > > Coastal Carolina University > > PO Box 261954 > > Conway, SC 29528-6054 > > Phone:(843)349-2150 Fax: (843)349-2990 > > Email: John at coastal.edu > ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ From john at COASTAL.EDU Sun Jul 14 02:33:59 2002 From: john at COASTAL.EDU (John Hanna) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 21:33:59 -0400 Subject: Open Shares..A little off topic In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1026610407.3d30d4e7737e0@mail.coastal.edu> Thanks Jerry, I will take a look at this too when I get back from vacation. Quoting Jerry Shenk : > If Languard's Network Scanner doesn't quite automate what you're wanting > enough, try Legion. > > ftp://ftp.technotronic.com/rhino9-products/legion.zip > > -----Original Message----- > From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of > John Hanna > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 12:08 PM > To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU > Subject: Re: Open Shares..A little off topic > > > Thanks Kevin. I found this one a while back too, but have not figured out > how to have it show me open shares. It shows all shares whether they are > password protected or not. It scans for so many things, which is good, but > when I only want to know about open shares, I can't seem to make it only > show me this. Full scan is too much information to weed through when I > need > just the open shares (not password protected). Am I overlooking a config > setting on this util? > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of > >Kevin Wade > >Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 12:01 PM > >To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU > >Subject: Re: Open Shares..A little off topic > > > > > >Yes. GFI's LanGuard Network Scanner. It is here: > >http://www.gfi.com/lannetscan/ > >Worked fine when I tried it some time back. > > > >Kevin Wade > > > >-------- Original Message: > > > >> Does anyone have or know of a utility that checks for open > >windows shares? > >> The Elkern Virus has re-appeared on our network and I easily > >stop the spread > >> on our netware servers by disabling the user's account as soon > >as Netshield > >> alerts me that there is a user infecting files., But these dog > >gone windows > >> workstations with open file sharing are hard to track and find. > >> > >> John Hanna > >> Network Services Manager > >> Coastal Carolina University > >> PO Box 261954 > >> Conway, SC 29528-6054 > >> Phone:(843)349-2150 Fax: (843)349-2990 > >> Email: John at coastal.edu > > > ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ From hbueno at OPTONLINE.NET Sun Jul 14 02:52:54 2002 From: hbueno at OPTONLINE.NET (HB) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 21:52:54 -0400 Subject: OT - Popup Window Eliminators References: Message-ID: <3D30D8C2.7040309@optonline.net> I just use Mozilla 1.1. It has a Preference menu for controlling windows in various ways. The only problem I've encountered is legitimate sites that open a new window for forms and such. You need to enable opening windows for sites like that. Hugo Mike Ossing wrote: > Hello, > > Has anyone had any particular successes (or failures) with any of the > browser popup window eliminators? Woudl you care to recommend any? > > Thanks in advance! > > MikeO > From Alar at MTK.UT.EE Mon Jul 15 16:05:14 2002 From: Alar at MTK.UT.EE (Alar Pandis) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:05:14 -0400 Subject: Utilization on 51; 100 on processor 1 Message-ID: <000701c22c10$fe022ed0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> Hi! NW 5.1 SP3a. Some strange utilization problem did appear today. Utilization stays on 51% and up, not down. Nothing special, memory usage is ok, cache buff ok, but on Processor Utilization screen I see that processor on 0 (two processors system) is util as usually, but on processor 1 util is almost all the time 100%. When I see Busiest Threads and Ints on Proc 1 then there shows only OS Allocated Timer Int 7,xxx. Any ideas? More thanks, Alar. From tim.clarke at MANIFEST.CO.UK Mon Jul 15 16:55:33 2002 From: tim.clarke at MANIFEST.CO.UK (Tim Clarke) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:55:33 -0400 Subject: Utilization on 51; 100 on processor 1 In-Reply-To: <000701c22c10$fe022ed0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20020715165040.00ab8c30@man3> We had our (single processor) 1.1ghz/1gb RAM NW6.1SP1 box at 100% earlier today for 2 hours that I'm still trying to fathom. In our case it was a 2gb file transfer - once I'd stopped the transfer the processor stayed up for over twenty minutes. I deleted the files - no effect. It instantly dropped to 1-2% when I purged them. It wasn't waiting disk I/O, nice short queue there, but wading through the Monitor screens didn't yield anything other than process "Server 00:26" hogging the limelight in Kernel/Busiest Threads. Any thoughts anyone? At 18:05 15/07/2002 +0300, you wrote: >Hi! >NW 5.1 SP3a. >Some strange utilization problem did appear today. Utilization stays on >51% and up, not down. Nothing special, memory usage is ok, cache buff >ok, but on Processor Utilization screen I see that processor on 0 (two >processors system) is util as usually, but on processor 1 util is almost >all the time 100%. When I see Busiest Threads and Ints on Proc 1 then >there shows only OS Allocated Timer Int 7,xxx. >Any ideas? >More thanks, >Alar. Tim Clarke AMBCS MIAP IT Director Manifest 9 Freebournes Court Newland Street Witham, Essex CM8 2BL England Phone: +44 1376 503500 Fax: +44 1376 503550 Email: tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk Web: http://www.manifest.co.uk Manifest is the trading name of: Manifest Information Services Ltd: Registered in England Number 3401145 & The Manifest Voting Agency Ltd: Registered in England Number 2920820 Registered Office at above address Copyright: This e-mail may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you are not the named addressee you must not use or disclose such information, instead please report it to admin at manifest.co.uk. Please see http://www.manifest.co.uk/privacy_policy.htm#e-mail for further information. From Alar at MTK.UT.EE Mon Jul 15 18:02:33 2002 From: Alar at MTK.UT.EE (Alar Pandis) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:02:33 -0400 Subject: Utilization on 51; 100 on processor 1 Message-ID: <000801c22c21$5e13e420$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> Hi again! Via portal I noticed that nwftpd.nlm thread was stuck. Probably this was the cause somehow for high 100% utilization on second processor (51%+ util overall) and slow server acting. Well, I tried to unload nwftpd.nlm, but no success - console hung - then I tried to down server which one almost succeeded, but almost, because before quiting to DOS computer hung and I did press reset-button. After restart everything goes OK again, but remirroring was needed, so server didn't down ok. More thanks, Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: 15. juuli 2002. a. 18:05 To: 'NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU' Subject: Utilization on 51; 100 on processor 1 Hi! NW 5.1 SP3a. Some strange utilization problem did appear today. Utilization stays on 51% and up, not down. Nothing special, memory usage is ok, cache buff ok, but on Processor Utilization screen I see that processor on 0 (two processors system) is util as usually, but on processor 1 util is almost all the time 100%. When I see Busiest Threads and Ints on Proc 1 then there shows only OS Allocated Timer Int 7,xxx. Any ideas? More thanks, Alar. From mdlaat at MUISNETWERKEN.NL Mon Jul 15 18:42:22 2002 From: mdlaat at MUISNETWERKEN.NL (Maurice de Laat) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:42:22 -0400 Subject: Utilization on 51; 100 on processor 1 In-Reply-To: <000801c22c21$5e13e420$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> References: <000801c22c21$5e13e420$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> Message-ID: <20020715174221.GC8820@xs4all.nl> On Mon, Jul 15, 2002 at 08:02:14PM +0300, Alar Pandis wrote: > Hi again! > Via portal I noticed that nwftpd.nlm thread was stuck. Probably this was > the cause somehow for high 100% utilization on second processor (51%+ > util overall) and slow server acting. Well, I tried to unload > nwftpd.nlm, but no success - console hung - then I tried to down server > which one almost succeeded, but almost, because before quiting to DOS > computer hung and I did press reset-button. After restart everything > goes OK again, but remirroring was needed, so server didn't down ok. > More thanks, > Alar. Alar, There is an update for that nlm that fixes high utilization. See http://support.novell.com/servlet/tidfinder/2962252 -- Maurice de Laat From Alar at MTK.UT.EE Mon Jul 15 19:06:41 2002 From: Alar at MTK.UT.EE (Alar Pandis) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:06:41 -0400 Subject: Utilization on 51; 100 on processor 1 Message-ID: Hi and thanks Maurice! I have only SP3 installed, but this update requires SP4 and I'm afraid this update will not work with SP3. Any experiences? Alar. On Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:42:21 +0200, Maurice de Laat wrote: >On Mon, Jul 15, 2002 at 08:02:14PM +0300, Alar Pandis wrote: >> Hi again! >> Via portal I noticed that nwftpd.nlm thread was stuck. Probably this was >> the cause somehow for high 100% utilization on second processor (51%+ >> util overall) and slow server acting. Well, I tried to unload >> nwftpd.nlm, but no success - console hung - then I tried to down server >> which one almost succeeded, but almost, because before quiting to DOS >> computer hung and I did press reset-button. After restart everything >> goes OK again, but remirroring was needed, so server didn't down ok. >> More thanks, >> Alar. > >Alar, >There is an update for that nlm that fixes high utilization. >See http://support.novell.com/servlet/tidfinder/2962252 >-- >Maurice de Laat From mdlaat at MUISNETWERKEN.NL Mon Jul 15 19:23:12 2002 From: mdlaat at MUISNETWERKEN.NL (Maurice de Laat) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:23:12 -0400 Subject: Utilization on 51; 100 on processor 1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020715182309.GB9568@xs4all.nl> On Mon, Jul 15, 2002 at 02:06:40PM -0400, Alar Pandis wrote: > Hi and thanks Maurice! > I have only SP3 installed, but this update requires SP4 and I'm afraid this > update will not work with SP3. Any experiences? So far only updates one NW6SP1 server last saterday. So not enough experience yet. -- Maurice de Laat From ksommers at HSC.VCU.EDU Tue Jul 16 01:36:39 2002 From: ksommers at HSC.VCU.EDU (Kay Sommers) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:36:39 -0400 Subject: ZenWorks for Desktops 3.2 inventory question Message-ID: <3D336D9A.C81D3E31@hsc.vcu.edu> We've been trying to get ZWfD 3.2 inventory to work. The w/stations import fine but the inventory piece never works. We tried the scheduling method, the explicit "scan now" in ConsoleOne and running NTscan.exe, but nothing happens. We've applied the patch ZD32NWj, and everything seems to be fine. Haven't found anything on the CoolSolutions web site or in the Novell Knowledgebase. Does anybody have any ideas what to try? Thanks. From zzz at MCTC.MNSCU.EDU Tue Jul 16 06:41:11 2002 From: zzz at MCTC.MNSCU.EDU (zzz) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 01:41:11 -0400 Subject: NW6, NES and ~homedir support on "remote" servers Message-ID: Hi, We are just about to roll NW6 to all servers using the NW6SP1 CD overlay. We are currently all servers NW51SP3 with edir 85.23. Our current campus web server is a dedicated NES web server that uses the ~homedir feature to redirect to our main campus "homedir" server for faculty web pages. This has been a very helpful and critical feature. We were hit hard when we installed NW51SP3, as this feature was broken. Subsequent Novell patches did fix this, but with a lot of irate user downtime. Can anyone tell me if the ~homedir remote server redirect feature will survive the NW6 upgrade using NES? Suggestions or comments? Thanks Dana From zzz at MCTC.MNSCU.EDU Tue Jul 16 07:10:26 2002 From: zzz at MCTC.MNSCU.EDU (zzz) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 02:10:26 -0400 Subject: manage NW6 replicas Message-ID: Hi, I must be doing the wrong seaches on the NOVELL site, as I keep coming up empty with anything specific about NW6 and replica managment. What is the NOVELL supported tool I should be using to manage replicas in a mixed NW51and NW6 edir environment? Thanks for any responses. Dana From Patrick at SPM.ORG.ZA Tue Jul 16 07:55:25 2002 From: Patrick at SPM.ORG.ZA (Patrick Medhurst) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 02:55:25 -0400 Subject: manage NW6 replicas Message-ID: Use ConsoleOne. Highlight a partition root and select Tools, Partition and Replica View. >>> zzz at MCTC.MNSCU.EDU 07/16/02 08:09AM >>> Hi, I must be doing the wrong seaches on the NOVELL site, as I keep coming up empty with anything specific about NW6 and replica managment. What is the NOVELL supported tool I should be using to manage replicas in a mixed NW51and NW6 edir environment? Thanks for any responses. Dana From tch at IQX.CO.UK Tue Jul 16 08:20:05 2002 From: tch at IQX.CO.UK (Tim Heywood) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 03:20:05 -0400 Subject: ZenWorks for Desktops 3.2 inventory question Message-ID: Have you set the Service Location Police... Without this policy set the inventory server cannot be found, and therefore it will not work tim ************************* Tim Heywood Scotland (God's Country) ************************* >>> ksommers at HSC.VCU.EDU 07/16/02 01:47 AM >>> We've been trying to get ZWfD 3.2 inventory to work. The w/stations import fine but the inventory piece never works. We tried the scheduling method, the explicit "scan now" in ConsoleOne and running NTscan.exe, but nothing happens. We've applied the patch ZD32NWj, and everything seems to be fine. Haven't found anything on the CoolSolutions web site or in the Novell Knowledgebase. Does anybody have any ideas what to try? Thanks. From Alar at MTK.UT.EE Tue Jul 16 11:06:35 2002 From: Alar at MTK.UT.EE (Alar Pandis) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 06:06:35 -0400 Subject: Utilization on 51; 100 on processor 1 Message-ID: <001001c22cb0$6bd0afa0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> Hi and thanks! I tried to run latest nwftpd.nlm on NW5.1 w SP3, but no success. So, I need to go to SP4. Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Maurice de Laat [mailto:mdlaat at MUISNETWERKEN.NL] Sent: 15. juuli 2002. a. 21:23 Subject: Re: Utilization on 51; 100 on processor 1 On Mon, Jul 15, 2002 at 02:06:40PM -0400, Alar Pandis wrote: > Hi and thanks Maurice! > I have only SP3 installed, but this update requires SP4 and I'm afraid this > update will not work with SP3. Any experiences? So far only updates one NW6SP1 server last saterday. So not enough experience yet. -- Maurice de Laat From weaver at ARCHES.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 16 14:25:44 2002 From: weaver at ARCHES.UGA.EDU (Michael Weaver) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:25:44 -0400 Subject: manage NW6 replicas In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <86905484.1026811433@Kiro> --On Tuesday, July 16, 2002 1:09 AM -0500 zzz wrote: > I must be doing the wrong seaches on the NOVELL site, as I keep coming up > empty with anything specific about NW6 and replica managment. > > What is the NOVELL supported tool I should be using to manage replicas > in a mixed NW51and NW6 edir environment? ConsoleOne 1.33 with the appropriate snap-ins (eDir 8.6.2, most likely). Take care, Mike -- Michael Weaver (706)542-6462 weaver at arches.uga.edu Engineering Services EITS University of Georgia, Athens Ga. )O( Public PGP key: http://www.arches.uga.edu/~weaver/pgp.html From ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU Tue Jul 16 15:25:38 2002 From: ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU (Joe Acquisto) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:25:38 -0400 Subject: NW6 ABEND, Apache, LIBC. Message-ID: New NW6 server ABENDs executing code in LIBC in a thread owned by APACHE.NLM. Just sitting wasting watts, it abends, apparently randomly. Have applied various patches to no avail. Found a nice page (http://abend.novell.com/) telling me how it has moved, and thanks a lot, etc, but I find it no where. At all. Where? Fixes? ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin, 1755 --------------------------------------------------- From Peter.VanLone at MBTMADISON.COM Tue Jul 16 15:33:16 2002 From: Peter.VanLone at MBTMADISON.COM (Peter Van Lone) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:33:16 -0400 Subject: NW6 ABEND, Apache, LIBC. Message-ID: I have the same abend (it sounds like) on one server -- no idea how to fix it. However -- for me http://abend.novell.com/ takes me to a page where I can submit an abend (have not done it since it was beta -- never had much luck with it anyway .....) PVL ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice-but in practice, there is." Jan L.A. van de Snepscheut, computer scientist -----Original Message----- From: Joe Acquisto [mailto:ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU] Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 9:25 AM To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU Subject: NW6 ABEND, Apache, LIBC. New NW6 server ABENDs executing code in LIBC in a thread owned by APACHE.NLM. Just sitting wasting watts, it abends, apparently randomly. Have applied various patches to no avail. Found a nice page (http://abend.novell.com/) telling me how it has moved, and thanks a lot, etc, but I find it no where. At all. Where? Fixes? ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin, 1755 --------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Interestingly, GW's File-> Attachments-> View displays a red message at the bottom saying "Click to view Base64 encoded file <...>" (the correct attachment file name is given). Doing so, however, produces an empty document. Even more interestingly, if I define a file type in Windows Explorer such that .822 is the same as .EML (i.e., an Outlook Internet message), I can double-click on the MIME.822 "attachment" within Groupwise, and Outlook pops up with the whole message properly decoded, attachment detected and ready to launch -- which it also does just fine, thanks. That's gotta hurt somebody's pride. What a thought: using Microsoft Outlook as the front end interface for Groupwise. FWIW, I can forward that same message to another system running Forte Agent email software, and it handles the attachement without difficulty as well. So it seems likely that Groupwise's MIME detector is broken. I've been over the raw message format carefully. I don't see a thing wrong. Not spaces around the "=" or anything like that. I don't have the exact version of GW handy, but I believe it's 5.5. And the owner will be distinctly uninterested in spending a lot of time and/or money on fixing this -- especially if the Outlook trick works so nicely. So, is this a known issue? Is there a quick fix? Should I just drop in a new client and all will be forgiven? Or would I have to pay for upgrades and run the version compatibility gauntlet (which will not happen)? /kenw Ken Wallewein Calgary, Alberta kenw at kmsi.net www.kmsi.net From geoffc at YORKU.CA Tue Jul 16 15:43:23 2002 From: geoffc at YORKU.CA (Geoffrey Carman) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:43:23 -0400 Subject: NW6 ABEND, Apache, LIBC. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: There was some talk about a problem with Apache 1.3.26 and the mod_lcgi.nlm causing an abend for no apparent reason... Specifically it was in the MP version of 1.3.26, not in the UniProc version. Ring a bell? On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Peter Van Lone wrote: > I have the same abend (it sounds like) on one server -- no idea how to fix it. However -- for me http://abend.novell.com/ takes me to a page where I can submit an abend (have not done it since it was beta -- never had much luck with it anyway .....) > > PVL > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "In theory, there is no difference between > theory and practice-but > in practice, there is." > Jan L.A. van de Snepscheut, > computer scientist > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Acquisto [mailto:ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU] > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 9:25 AM > To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU > Subject: NW6 ABEND, Apache, LIBC. > > New NW6 server ABENDs executing code in LIBC in a thread owned by > APACHE.NLM. Just sitting wasting watts, it abends, apparently > randomly. > > Have applied various patches to no avail. > > Found a nice page (http://abend.novell.com/) telling me how it has > moved, and thanks a lot, etc, but I find it no where. At all. > > Where? Fixes? > > > ----------------------------------------- > Joe Acquisto > SUNY New Paltz > 845-257-3134 (V) > 845-257-6900 (F) > --------------------------------------------------- > "Those who would give up essential > liberty to purchase a little temporary > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." > > Benjamin Franklin, 1755 > --------------------------------------------------- > --- Geoffrey Carman York University geoffc at yorku.ca From ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU Tue Jul 16 15:53:10 2002 From: ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU (Joe Acquisto) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:53:10 -0400 Subject: NW6 ABEND, Apache, LIBC. Message-ID: >I have the same abend (it sounds like) on one server -- no idea how to >fix it. However -- for me http://abend.novell.com/ takes me to a page >where I can submit an abend (have not done it since it was beta -- never >had much luck with it anyway .....) > >PVL Aha! I can see the left hand panel text using netscape, but not using Opera 6.02. Cute. joea/ From ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU Tue Jul 16 16:02:51 2002 From: ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU (Joe Acquisto) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:02:51 -0400 Subject: NW6 ABEND, Apache, LIBC. Message-ID: >There was some talk about a problem with Apache 1.3.26 and the >mod_lcgi.nlm causing an abend for no apparent reason... > > Specifically it was in the MP version of 1.3.26, not in the >UniProc version. > > Ring a bell? > No, no bells. Nor light bulbs. Sigh. So, is there a stable verision of Apache? joea/ From KANFERM at WSDVT.ORG Tue Jul 16 17:00:30 2002 From: KANFERM at WSDVT.ORG (Mike Kanfer) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:00:30 -0400 Subject: NetStorage, Web Manager, etc Message-ID: We had NetStorage working great through BorderManager and NAT for 12 weeks. Suddenly, yesterday, it can't be reached from outside. Inside works fine. The only change to the network we made was an IP address to a different server. Any ideas on how to get it back? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://netlab1.usu.edu/pipermail/novell/attachments/20020716/83dc5ffb/attachment.html From Alar at MTK.UT.EE Tue Jul 16 17:54:10 2002 From: Alar at MTK.UT.EE (Alar Pandis) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:54:10 -0400 Subject: DHCP question Message-ID: <000401c22ce9$5cb28280$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> Hi! NW5.1SP3a, DHCP, BorderManager, several subnet's (DHCP described for all of them), firewall. When I move mine notebook computer between subnet's then computer (W2KSP2) does not get IP-address from server. Only when I log in as (ordinary) user (probably admin also) and then restart computer, only then computer gets address. When then I move notebook to another zone (subnet) then I need to do same - login and then restart and then IP-address will assigned. Any ideas?, experiences? More thanks, Alar. From JRD at CC.USU.EDU Tue Jul 16 18:09:09 2002 From: JRD at CC.USU.EDU (Joe Doupnik) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:09:09 -0400 Subject: DHCP question Message-ID: <01KK5SBOKIN6ADCJST@cc.usu.edu> >NW5.1SP3a, DHCP, BorderManager, several subnet's (DHCP described for all >of them), firewall. >When I move mine notebook computer between subnet's then computer >(W2KSP2) does not get IP-address from server. Only when I log in as >(ordinary) user (probably admin also) and then restart computer, only >then computer gets address. When then I move notebook to another zone >(subnet) then I need to do same - login and then restart and then >IP-address will assigned. >Any ideas?, experiences? >More thanks, >Alar. ------------- If we infer correctly, your experiment was to obtain an IP address from DHCP, unplug the machine, plug it in again at a different location and find you were using the old IP address. If this is correct then please talk to Microsoft. Windows caches addresses and does not do a DHCP renewal just because the net became disconnected momentarily. This has nothing to do with a NW client; DHCP address work occurs as the machine starts and prior to any client work. Joe D. From meaou at UFL.EDU Tue Jul 16 20:04:32 2002 From: meaou at UFL.EDU (Sommer Sharp) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:04:32 -0400 Subject: Zen 2 to 3.2 policy problem Message-ID: We have what is actually a very humorous problem. When we were running Zen 2, we had policies in effect on our student lab area that "locked down" the machines. They couldn't install programs, change settings, etc. I upgraded to Zen 3.2 and deleted all the old policies and recreated new ones. Our policy that should allow the administrators of the lab to unlock the computers isn't working. Since the old policy on the computer won't let us run poledit from the 98 CD, we can't even unlock them that way. Any suggestions on where I should look for info on how to get these machines unlocked? Sommer Sharp, Postmaster Systems Programmer College of Veterinary Medicine University of Florida 352-392-4700 From Wjh at KIRKHAM.COM Tue Jul 16 22:18:13 2002 From: Wjh at KIRKHAM.COM (Weldon Hoppe) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:18:13 -0400 Subject: Console Monitor displays volume % full incorrectly Message-ID: Netware 6, SP1, NSS, compression enabled, Monitor v 12.00 On the main screen, Volumes option, Mounted Volumes, VOL1 displays the %full parameter incorrectly. The volume size is 232GB, the % full should be 79% but is displaying as 6331%. Anybody have a resolution for this problem? From JRD at CC.USU.EDU Tue Jul 16 22:30:39 2002 From: JRD at CC.USU.EDU (Joe Doupnik) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:30:39 -0400 Subject: Console Monitor displays volume % full incorrectly Message-ID: <01KK61GTTKAAADCK3B@cc.usu.edu> >Netware 6, SP1, NSS, compression enabled, Monitor v 12.00 > >On the main screen, Volumes option, Mounted Volumes, VOL1 displays the >%full parameter incorrectly. > >The volume size is 232GB, the % full should be 79% but is displaying as >6331%. > >Anybody have a resolution for this problem? ------- I think you volunteered yourself to write up and file the bug report. Please do so asap because SP2 is nearing release state and this week is when all the last minute bugs are squashed. Today would be an excellent time to file it. Joe D. From zzz at MCTC.MNSCU.EDU Wed Jul 17 03:22:00 2002 From: zzz at MCTC.MNSCU.EDU (zzz) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:22:00 -0400 Subject: manage NW6 replicas Message-ID: Hi, That worked fine. It makes sense that C1 is the supported util. I guess I will use it from now on instead of NDS MANAGER, as it worked. But it does not have the same feature set, like the ability to push out DS updates best I could find. Thanks Dana >>> Patrick Medhurst 07/16/02 01:55AM >>> Use ConsoleOne. Highlight a partition root and select Tools, Partition and Replica View. >>> zzz at MCTC.MNSCU.EDU 07/16/02 08:09AM >>> Hi, I must be doing the wrong seaches on the NOVELL site, as I keep coming up empty with anything specific about NW6 and replica managment. What is the NOVELL supported tool I should be using to manage replicas in a mixed NW51and NW6 edir environment? Thanks for any responses. Dana From hbueno at OPTONLINE.NET Wed Jul 17 03:39:56 2002 From: hbueno at OPTONLINE.NET (HB) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:39:56 -0400 Subject: ZenWorks for Desktops 3.2 inventory question References: <3D336D9A.C81D3E31@hsc.vcu.edu> Message-ID: <3D34C3D7.9070600@optonline.net> You have to make sure everything is set up just right. This includes service location policy, server policy, inventory policy, etc. There's definitely a TID on the Novell KB that walks through troubleshooting the Zen 3.x inventory process. Hugo Kay Sommers wrote: > We've been trying to get ZWfD 3.2 inventory to work. The w/stations > import fine but the inventory piece never works. We tried the > scheduling method, the explicit "scan now" in ConsoleOne and running > NTscan.exe, but nothing happens. We've applied the patch ZD32NWj, and > everything seems to be fine. Haven't found anything on the > CoolSolutions web site or in the Novell Knowledgebase. > Does anybody have any ideas what to try? > Thanks. > From John.Hendriks at NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU Wed Jul 17 06:04:34 2002 From: John.Hendriks at NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU (John Hendriks) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 01:04:34 -0400 Subject: NW6 ABEND, Apache, LIBC. Message-ID: If you go to the apache site www.apache.com\netware there are two apache versions; the MP and the UP version. Interestingly the notes at the top of the page say that problems may be experienced if using the MP version and therefore using the UP version is better. Also Novell TID 1007224 specifically points at the UP version. Cheers --------------------------------------- John Hendriks Communication & Information Services University Services Division CT Building University of Newcastle NSW 2308 Australia Ph 61249215628 Fx 61249216916 ------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://netlab1.usu.edu/pipermail/novell/attachments/20020717/7c8aa329/attachment.html From admin at IAA.GOV.IL Wed Jul 17 06:45:39 2002 From: admin at IAA.GOV.IL (Mike Glassman - Admin) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 01:45:39 -0400 Subject: manage NW6 replicas Message-ID: Dana, In eDir the updates are pushed out differently in any case, so the push utility in NDS manager wouldn't work for you. A manuall update on each server is necessary (And since I'v found errors on both the latest patch releases as far as placement of files go, I would check that everything works on a test server before pushing them to production). Although Novell did fix this in the end, so you could also simply wait about three weeks after a release before installing it. Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: zzz [SMTP:zzz at MCTC.MNSCU.EDU] > Sent: > ? ???? 17 2002 4:22 > To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU > Subject: Re: manage NW6 replicas > > Hi, > > That worked fine. > > It makes sense that C1 is the supported util. > > I guess I will use it from now on instead of NDS MANAGER, as it worked. > But it does not have the same feature set, like the ability to push out DS updates best I could find. > > Thanks > > Dana > > >>> Patrick Medhurst 07/16/02 01:55AM >>> > Use ConsoleOne. Highlight a partition root and select Tools, Partition > and Replica View. > > >>> zzz at MCTC.MNSCU.EDU 07/16/02 08:09AM >>> > Hi, > > I must be doing the wrong seaches on the NOVELL site, as I keep coming > up empty with anything specific about NW6 and replica managment. > > What is the NOVELL supported tool I should be using to manage replicas > in a mixed NW51and NW6 edir environment? > > Thanks for any responses. > > Dana From Alar at MTK.UT.EE Wed Jul 17 08:18:51 2002 From: Alar at MTK.UT.EE (Alar Pandis) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 03:18:51 -0400 Subject: DHCP question Message-ID: Hi and thanks Joe! No-no-no! I start computer in one subnet, obtain from there IP address. Then I shut down the computer and plug it into second subnet. (DHCP-info is described for this computer for several subnets.) Start computer, but computer does not obtain corresponding IP address. Then I log in (just as local user), restart computer and IP address is there. User's coming from other (not in our university) DHCP-based networks also can't obtain at once IP address. May be is something with firewall restrictions!? But I see that when once this address is obtained then on same subnet no further problem. More thanks, Alar. On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:09:03 -0700, Joe Doupnik wrote: >>NW5.1SP3a, DHCP, BorderManager, several subnet's (DHCP described for all >>of them), firewall. >>When I move mine notebook computer between subnet's then computer >>(W2KSP2) does not get IP-address from server. Only when I log in as >>(ordinary) user (probably admin also) and then restart computer, only >>then computer gets address. When then I move notebook to another zone >>(subnet) then I need to do same - login and then restart and then >>IP-address will assigned. >>Any ideas?, experiences? >>More thanks, >>Alar. >------------- > If we infer correctly, your experiment was to obtain an IP address >from DHCP, unplug the machine, plug it in again at a different location >and find you were using the old IP address. > If this is correct then please talk to Microsoft. Windows caches >addresses and does not do a DHCP renewal just because the net became >disconnected momentarily. This has nothing to do with a NW client; DHCP >address work occurs as the machine starts and prior to any client work. > Joe D. From Mattias.Widman at ESV.SE Wed Jul 17 09:26:31 2002 From: Mattias.Widman at ESV.SE (Mattias Widman) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 04:26:31 -0400 Subject: Removing server from tree Message-ID: I'm about to remove a server from the tree (NW6, edir 8.6.2). It will not come back, I'm going to use it for non-Netware stuff. I just want to check with all you experienced folks out there that I haven't forgotten anything: 1. Start dsrepair -a on another server. Remove it from the replica ring (it's not master). 2. Start NDSManager and remove the server from the tree. 3. Check synchronisation on the other servers in the ring 4. Start C1 and delete all objects relating to the server -- Mattias Nil illegitimo carborundum From prandal at HEREFORDSHIRE.GOV.UK Wed Jul 17 10:30:07 2002 From: prandal at HEREFORDSHIRE.GOV.UK (Randal, Phil) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 05:30:07 -0400 Subject: NW6 ABEND, Apache, LIBC. Message-ID: Try http://httpd.apache.org/docs/netware.html instead. Phil --------------------------------------------- Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK -----Original Message----- From: John Hendriks [mailto:John.Hendriks at NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU] Sent: 17 July 2002 06:04 To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU Subject: Re: NW6 ABEND, Apache, LIBC. If you go to the apache site www.apache.com\netware there are two apache versions; the MP and the UP version. Interestingly the notes at the top of the page say that problems may be experienced if using the MP version and therefore using the UP version is better. Also Novell TID 1007224 specifically points at the UP version. Cheers --------------------------------------- John Hendriks Communication & Information Services University Services Division CT Building University of Newcastle NSW 2308 Australia Ph 61249215628 Fx 61249216916 ------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://netlab1.usu.edu/pipermail/novell/attachments/20020717/06b6c771/attachment.html From G.Ross at CCW.GOV.UK Wed Jul 17 10:33:08 2002 From: G.Ross at CCW.GOV.UK (Gordon Ross) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 05:33:08 -0400 Subject: Removing server from tree Message-ID: NO !!!!!!! Go to NWCONFIG->Directory Options->Remove Directory Services. ONLY use your method if your server has seriously problems. GTG Gordon Ross, Network Manager/Rheolwr Rhydwaith Countryside Council for Wales/Cyngor Cefn Gwlad Cymru >>> Mattias.Widman at ESV.SE 07/17/02 09:27 AM >>> I'm about to remove a server from the tree (NW6, edir 8.6.2). It will not come back, I'm going to use it for non-Netware stuff. I just want to check with all you experienced folks out there that I haven't forgotten anything: 1. Start dsrepair -a on another server. Remove it from the replica ring (it's not master). 2. Start NDSManager and remove the server from the tree. 3. Check synchronisation on the other servers in the ring 4. Start C1 and delete all objects relating to the server -- Mattias Nil illegitimo carborundum From Mattias.Widman at ESV.SE Wed Jul 17 10:47:47 2002 From: Mattias.Widman at ESV.SE (Mattias Widman) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 05:47:47 -0400 Subject: Ang: Re: Removing server from tree Message-ID: OK !!!!!!! This way I skip points 1 and 2? Or all? What is the difference between these two methods? >>> G.Ross at CCW.GOV.UK 2002-07-17 11:32:44 >>> NO !!!!!!! Go to NWCONFIG->Directory Options->Remove Directory Services. ONLY use your method if your server has seriously problems. GTG Gordon Ross, Network Manager/Rheolwr Rhydwaith Countryside Council for Wales/Cyngor Cefn Gwlad Cymru >>> Mattias.Widman at ESV.SE 07/17/02 09:27 AM >>> I'm about to remove a server from the tree (NW6, edir 8.6.2). It will not come back, I'm going to use it for non-Netware stuff. I just want to check with all you experienced folks out there that I haven't forgotten anything: 1. Start dsrepair -a on another server. Remove it from the replica ring (it's not master). 2. Start NDSManager and remove the server from the tree. 3. Check synchronisation on the other servers in the ring 4. Start C1 and delete all objects relating to the server -- Mattias Nil illegitimo carborundum From Alar at MTK.UT.EE Wed Jul 17 11:03:29 2002 From: Alar at MTK.UT.EE (Alar Pandis) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 06:03:29 -0400 Subject: DHCP question Message-ID: Hi! Just little bit more info: in dhcpsrvr.log I see: Get type:4, IPAddr: 169.254.232.73, LeaseTime:0,MacIndx:595,pIP=A00000D old pIP addr: 10.0.0.13 is MANUAL cannot be deleted. AMAGet() exit type=4, err=24, addr=169.254.232.73 2002/07/17 12:51:00 packet received from client . 2002/07/17 12:51:00 Error code = 24 after DHCPSRVR cache has been queried for client . 10.0.0.13 is old IP addr (as described), now on other subnet computer must get 10.0.1.101. (Yes, all those assigned addresses is MANUAL.) Any ideas? More thanks, Alar. On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 03:18:51 -0400, Alar Pandis wrote: >Hi and thanks Joe! >No-no-no! >I start computer in one subnet, obtain from there IP address. Then I shut >down the computer and plug it into second subnet. (DHCP-info is described >for this computer for several subnets.) Start computer, but computer does >not obtain corresponding IP address. Then I log in (just as local user), >restart computer and IP address is there. User's coming from other (not in >our university) DHCP-based networks also can't obtain at once IP address. >May be is something with firewall restrictions!? But I see that when once >this address is obtained then on same subnet no further problem. >More thanks, >Alar. > >On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:09:03 -0700, Joe Doupnik wrote: > >>>NW5.1SP3a, DHCP, BorderManager, several subnet's (DHCP described for all >>>of them), firewall. >>>When I move mine notebook computer between subnet's then computer >>>(W2KSP2) does not get IP-address from server. Only when I log in as >>>(ordinary) user (probably admin also) and then restart computer, only >>>then computer gets address. When then I move notebook to another zone >>>(subnet) then I need to do same - login and then restart and then >>>IP-address will assigned. >>>Any ideas?, experiences? >>>More thanks, >>>Alar. >>------------- >> If we infer correctly, your experiment was to obtain an IP address >>from DHCP, unplug the machine, plug it in again at a different location >>and find you were using the old IP address. >> If this is correct then please talk to Microsoft. Windows caches >>addresses and does not do a DHCP renewal just because the net became >>disconnected momentarily. This has nothing to do with a NW client; DHCP >>address work occurs as the machine starts and prior to any client work. >> Joe D. From weaver at ARCHES.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 17 11:07:06 2002 From: weaver at ARCHES.UGA.EDU (Michael Weaver) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 06:07:06 -0400 Subject: Removing server from tree In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <26183040.1026885755@[192.168.0.2]> --On Wednesday, July 17, 2002 10:25 AM +0200 Mattias Widman wrote: > I'm about to remove a server from the tree (NW6, edir 8.6.2). It will not > come back, I'm going to use it for non-Netware stuff. I just want to > check with all you experienced folks out there that I haven't forgotten > anything: > > 1. Start dsrepair -a on another server. Remove it from the replica ring > (it's not master). > > 2. Start NDSManager and remove the server from the tree. > > 3. Check synchronisation on the other servers in the ring > > 4. Start C1 and delete all objects relating to the server You are trying too hard, if you don't mind me saying. Go to the server to be taken off line. Load nwconfig and select "Directory Services". Select "Remove Directory Services from this server". That's it. The remove process will notify all other servers of its demise. After it is out of the tree, down it and use C1 to clean up the objects. Take care, Mike -- Michael Weaver (706)542-6462 weaver at arches.uga.edu Engineering Services EITS University of Georgia, Athens Ga. )O( Public PGP key: http://www.arches.uga.edu/~weaver/pgp.html From G.Ross at CCW.GOV.UK Wed Jul 17 11:36:00 2002 From: G.Ross at CCW.GOV.UK (Gordon Ross) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 06:36:00 -0400 Subject: Ang: Re: Removing server from tree Message-ID: The NWCONFIG method is the way you are supposed to do it. It does various sanity checks (like removing replicas, ensuring there are other copies of partitions, and there are no Master partitions on the server you are removing) You should only use the DSREPAIR option if your Server is basicly, off the network. If you use your method, you don't actually remove DS from your server, you just tell the rest of DS that your server doesn't exist. With the NWConfig option, you still have to tidy up some DS objects (like volumes objects, etc) but the main server object is removed cleanly from the DS. GTG Gordon Ross, Network Manager/Rheolwr Rhydwaith Countryside Council for Wales/Cyngor Cefn Gwlad Cymru >>> Mattias.Widman at ESV.SE 07/17/02 10:48 AM >>> OK !!!!!!! This way I skip points 1 and 2? Or all? What is the difference between these two methods? From rfs at CLARKSON.EDU Wed Jul 17 13:00:58 2002 From: rfs at CLARKSON.EDU (Richard Seifert, Jr) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:00:58 -0400 Subject: ZfD 3.2 on NW 6 Message-ID: <3D355A0B.11BF3112@clarkson.edu> Good morning, Has anyone worked with Zen for Desktops 3.2 on NW 6? I looked around on the support site and could not find much of anything about the particular combination. Experience or pointers to documentation would be greatly appreciated. Mainly interested in stuff like service pack levels and potential gotchas. TIA. Regards, Rich -- Richard Seifert, Jr Ass't Director of Network Operations Clarkson University - OIT Potsdam, NY 13699 (315) 268-6725 rfs at clarkson.edu From MHGlenn at CCO.STATE.OH.US Wed Jul 17 14:07:17 2002 From: MHGlenn at CCO.STATE.OH.US (Michael Glenn) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:07:17 -0400 Subject: ZfD 3.2 on NW 6 Message-ID: In the lab, I've been running ZfD3.2 with beta patch "J" and PXE atop NW6SP1 for a couple months now. Only serious problems I've hit so far are: 1) No keyboard on remote control; see TID 10069807, and 2) After porting ZfD 2 profiles to 3, they should be carefully proof-read, and occasionally re-created. >>> rfs at CLARKSON.EDU 07/17/2002 07:50:35 >>> Good morning, Has anyone worked with Zen for Desktops 3.2 on NW 6? I looked around on the support site and could not find much of anything about the particular combination. Experience or pointers to documentation would be greatly appreciated. Mainly interested in stuff like service pack levels and potential gotchas. TIA. Regards, Rich -- Richard Seifert, Jr Ass't Director of Network Operations Clarkson University - OIT Potsdam, NY 13699 (315) 268-6725 rfs at clarkson.edu From Chuck_Betz at MOED.USCOURTS.GOV Wed Jul 17 14:09:58 2002 From: Chuck_Betz at MOED.USCOURTS.GOV (Chuck Betz) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:09:58 -0400 Subject: DHCP question Message-ID: I have experienced this same problem with the same kind of log entries in the DHCP log. I believe you need to have another DHCP server to handle each subnet where you have users that roam from subnet to subnet. I will try this after I come back from vacation in a couple of weeks. My understanding is that when you assign a DHCP server to a particular subnet(s) it does not see the entries for the subnets it is not responsible for. In your case a DHCP server that handles the subnet and manual entry for the 10.0.1.101 address would not see the manual entry for 10.0.0.13 because it is not responsible for that subnet. Therefore it would assign the address since it would not see another IP address for the particular MAC address. Note: This is just my understanding. I have not actually tried this yet. Has anyone else tried this? Chuck Betz Network Administrator U.S. District Court, Eastern Missouri 314-244-7812 Visit the show-me state..... Missouri loves company. Alar Pandis Sent by: Novell LAN Interest Group 07/17/2002 05:03 AM Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU cc: Subject: Re: DHCP question Hi! Just little bit more info: in dhcpsrvr.log I see: Get type:4, IPAddr: 169.254.232.73, LeaseTime:0,MacIndx:595,pIP=A00000D old pIP addr: 10.0.0.13 is MANUAL cannot be deleted. AMAGet() exit type=4, err=24, addr=169.254.232.73 2002/07/17 12:51:00 packet received from client . 2002/07/17 12:51:00 Error code = 24 after DHCPSRVR cache has been queried for client . 10.0.0.13 is old IP addr (as described), now on other subnet computer must get 10.0.1.101. (Yes, all those assigned addresses is MANUAL.) Any ideas? More thanks, Alar. On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 03:18:51 -0400, Alar Pandis wrote: >Hi and thanks Joe! >No-no-no! >I start computer in one subnet, obtain from there IP address. Then I shut >down the computer and plug it into second subnet. (DHCP-info is described >for this computer for several subnets.) Start computer, but computer does >not obtain corresponding IP address. Then I log in (just as local user), >restart computer and IP address is there. User's coming from other (not in >our university) DHCP-based networks also can't obtain at once IP address. >May be is something with firewall restrictions!? But I see that when once >this address is obtained then on same subnet no further problem. >More thanks, >Alar. > >On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:09:03 -0700, Joe Doupnik wrote: > >>>NW5.1SP3a, DHCP, BorderManager, several subnet's (DHCP described for all >>>of them), firewall. >>>When I move mine notebook computer between subnet's then computer >>>(W2KSP2) does not get IP-address from server. Only when I log in as >>>(ordinary) user (probably admin also) and then restart computer, only >>>then computer gets address. When then I move notebook to another zone >>>(subnet) then I need to do same - login and then restart and then >>>IP-address will assigned. >>>Any ideas?, experiences? >>>More thanks, >>>Alar. >>------------- >> If we infer correctly, your experiment was to obtain an IP address >>from DHCP, unplug the machine, plug it in again at a different location >>and find you were using the old IP address. >> If this is correct then please talk to Microsoft. Windows caches >>addresses and does not do a DHCP renewal just because the net became >>disconnected momentarily. This has nothing to do with a NW client; DHCP >>address work occurs as the machine starts and prior to any client work. >> Joe D. From sconnell at DIPIX.COM Wed Jul 17 14:11:10 2002 From: sconnell at DIPIX.COM (Shawn Connelly) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:11:10 -0400 Subject: Upgrading server (2nd time) Message-ID: This is odd, I originally sent this message on Friday but it didn't appear in the digest. Well, I believe it is time to upgrade our old but chugging along server. Currently, I am using the following: CPU - PII 450MHz Board - Intel 440BX motherboard Memory - 256Mb x 2 DIMM PC133 RAID - DPT SmartCache IV HDs - Seagate Barracuda 18gb x 5 NOS - Netware 5.0 This system has been reliably supporting 72 workstations but it is slow, sometimes painfully slow despite all the Netware tweaking I've done! I realize the major reason for the slow speed is in the hard drive technology. I plan to upgrade to Netware 6 plus the following (suggestions welcome): - An Intel PIII capable motherboard. I was considering a dual PIII board such as the SLT2 server board. Is there any significant benefit to a dual processor board that would justify the additional costs? I cannot use a P4 board because of the non-compatible chassis and redundant power supply investment. - Memory Increase memory by 256Mb - RAID - I need to upgrade the fastest SCSI RAID solution that my company can afford! Currently, I am looking at the Adaptec 2100S Ultra160 SCSI 32bit controller w/128Mb ECC memory. Or I could go with the 2110S which is limited to 32Mb but is a 64bit PCI card. Which is better?? - HDs - Definitely stay with Seagate. I'm very happy with their individual performance. - NOS - upgrade to Novell 6.0 as soon as evaluate the real benefits. Any suggestions will be appreciated. Thank you, Shawn ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Shawn Connelly, Network Engineer. Dipix Technologies Inc. From ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU Wed Jul 17 14:25:37 2002 From: ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU (Joe Acquisto) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:25:37 -0400 Subject: NW6 ABEND, Apache, LIBC. Message-ID: I did find the apache stuff, thanks to an earlier off list tip. Thanks, you know who you are, I will not incriminate you, I swear. So far the Abend has not re-occurred. But the day is young. I can get into the management console, but seem to have hosed the port 80 access. Interesting that the module that seemed to be causing the abend was not included in the download, had to copy it (and other missing modules) from the orginal verion. I did not find a Novell TID pointing me to a solution. I would think that a search on various combinations of "apache" and "abend" and "libc" should find something. 1007224 speaks to windows for workgroups hanging on print screen. joea/ >>> John.Hendriks at NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU 07/17/02 01:04AM >>> If you go to the apache site www.apache.com\netware there are two apache versions; the MP and the UP version. Interestingly the notes at the top of the page say that problems may be experienced if using the MP version and therefore using the UP version is better. Also Novell TID 1007224 specifically points at the UP version. Cheers --------------------------------------- John Hendriks Communication & Information Services University Services Division CT Building University of Newcastle NSW 2308 Australia Ph 61249215628 Fx 61249216916 ------------------------------- From prandal at HEREFORDSHIRE.GOV.UK Wed Jul 17 14:46:54 2002 From: prandal at HEREFORDSHIRE.GOV.UK (Randal, Phil) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:46:54 -0400 Subject: NW6 ABEND, Apache, LIBC. Message-ID: A google search for libc apache abend finds lots of clues if you hit the "Groups" tab. Phil --------------------------------------------- Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Acquisto [mailto:ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU] > Sent: 17 July 2002 14:25 > To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU > Subject: Re: NW6 ABEND, Apache, LIBC. > > > I did find the apache stuff, thanks to an earlier off list > tip. Thanks, > you know who you are, I will not incriminate you, I swear. > > So far the Abend has not re-occurred. But the day is young. > > I can get into the management console, but seem to have hosed the port > 80 access. Interesting that the module that seemed to be causing the > abend was not included in the download, had to copy it (and other > missing modules) from the orginal verion. > > I did not find a Novell TID pointing me to a solution. I would think > that a search on various combinations of "apache" and "abend" > and "libc" > should find something. > > 1007224 speaks to windows for workgroups hanging on print screen. > > joea/ > > >>> John.Hendriks at NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU 07/17/02 01:04AM >>> > If you go to the apache site www.apache.com\netware there are two > apache versions; the MP and the UP version. Interestingly the notes at > the top of the page say that problems may be experienced if > using the MP > version and therefore using the UP version is better. > > Also Novell TID 1007224 specifically points at the UP version. > > Cheers > > --------------------------------------- > John Hendriks > Communication & Information Services > University Services Division > CT Building > University of Newcastle > NSW 2308 Australia > Ph 61249215628 Fx 61249216916 > ------------------------------- > From ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU Wed Jul 17 15:15:40 2002 From: ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU (Joe Acquisto) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:15:40 -0400 Subject: NW6 ABEND, Apache, LIBC. Message-ID: Well, that's just marvy. What do I look like, Sherlock Holmes? That I need more clues? No, don't answer that. Too many threads might spawn. Oh, so maybe that's why Eric Schmidt went to Google? To augment the Novell KB's wimpy search engine? Well, good work, Eric! (got any jobs open?) joea/ >>> prandal at HEREFORDSHIRE.GOV.UK 07/17/02 09:53AM >>> A google search for libc apache abend finds lots of clues if you hit the "Groups" tab. Phil --------------------------------------------- Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Acquisto [mailto:ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU] > Sent: 17 July 2002 14:25 > To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU > Subject: Re: NW6 ABEND, Apache, LIBC. > > > I did find the apache stuff, thanks to an earlier off list > tip. Thanks, > you know who you are, I will not incriminate you, I swear. > > So far the Abend has not re-occurred. But the day is young. > > I can get into the management console, but seem to have hosed the port > 80 access. Interesting that the module that seemed to be causing the > abend was not included in the download, had to copy it (and other > missing modules) from the orginal verion. > > I did not find a Novell TID pointing me to a solution. I would think > that a search on various combinations of "apache" and "abend" > and "libc" > should find something. > > 1007224 speaks to windows for workgroups hanging on print screen. > > joea/ > > >>> John.Hendriks at NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU 07/17/02 01:04AM >>> > If you go to the apache site www.apache.com\netware there are two > apache versions; the MP and the UP version. Interestingly the notes at > the top of the page say that problems may be experienced if > using the MP > version and therefore using the UP version is better. > > Also Novell TID 1007224 specifically points at the UP version. > > Cheers > > --------------------------------------- > John Hendriks > Communication & Information Services > University Services Division > CT Building > University of Newcastle > NSW 2308 Australia > Ph 61249215628 Fx 61249216916 > ------------------------------- > From prandal at HEREFORDSHIRE.GOV.UK Wed Jul 17 15:19:35 2002 From: prandal at HEREFORDSHIRE.GOV.UK (Randal, Phil) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:19:35 -0400 Subject: NW6 ABEND, Apache, LIBC. Message-ID: Well, it is your problem, not mine, and I didn't keep all the emails on the subject so I was lacking the key facts... Go on, be a devil, chuck the latest beta support pack on and see if that fixes it ;-) Phil --------------------------------------------- Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Acquisto [mailto:ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU] > Sent: 17 July 2002 15:15 > To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU > Subject: Re: NW6 ABEND, Apache, LIBC. > > > Well, that's just marvy. What do I look like, Sherlock > Holmes? That I > need more clues? No, don't answer that. Too many threads > might spawn. > > Oh, so maybe that's why Eric Schmidt went to Google? To augment the > Novell KB's wimpy search engine? Well, good work, Eric! (got any jobs > open?) > > joea/ > > >>> prandal at HEREFORDSHIRE.GOV.UK 07/17/02 09:53AM >>> > A google search for libc apache abend finds lots of clues if > you hit the "Groups" tab. > > Phil > > --------------------------------------------- > Phil Randal > Network Engineer > Herefordshire Council > Hereford, UK > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Joe Acquisto [mailto:ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU] > > Sent: 17 July 2002 14:25 > > To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU > > Subject: Re: NW6 ABEND, Apache, LIBC. > > > > > > I did find the apache stuff, thanks to an earlier off list > > tip. Thanks, > > you know who you are, I will not incriminate you, I swear. > > > > So far the Abend has not re-occurred. But the day is young. > > > > I can get into the management console, but seem to have hosed the > port > > 80 access. Interesting that the module that seemed to be causing > the > > abend was not included in the download, had to copy it (and other > > missing modules) from the orginal verion. > > > > I did not find a Novell TID pointing me to a solution. I would > think > > that a search on various combinations of "apache" and "abend" > > and "libc" > > should find something. > > > > 1007224 speaks to windows for workgroups hanging on print screen. > > > > joea/ > > > > >>> John.Hendriks at NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU 07/17/02 01:04AM >>> > > If you go to the apache site www.apache.com\netware there are two > > apache versions; the MP and the UP version. Interestingly the notes > at > > the top of the page say that problems may be experienced if > > using the MP > > version and therefore using the UP version is better. > > > > Also Novell TID 1007224 specifically points at the UP version. > > > > Cheers > > > > --------------------------------------- > > John Hendriks > > Communication & Information Services > > University Services Division > > CT Building > > University of Newcastle > > NSW 2308 Australia > > Ph 61249215628 Fx 61249216916 > > ------------------------------- > > > From Alar at MTK.UT.EE Wed Jul 17 15:21:14 2002 From: Alar at MTK.UT.EE (Alar Pandis) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:21:14 -0400 Subject: DHCP question Message-ID: Hi and thanks! Yes, but when no IP-address is assigned to computer or You put IP-address manually on computer and then remove it and tru to get IP-address from DHCP- server then everything goes ok! DHCP-server is on BorderManager computer from where is all subnets started. Also, this same notice in log shows that DHCP-server is reached (W2K error is that can't find server) and in DHCP- console is all subnets specified - there is possible to specify several subnets for DHCP. I do not see the problem why not! But, well, I'm not specialist. Also, I noticed that sometimes is no problem with assigning IP- addresses for computers with another IP-addresses. Have anyone some ideas? More thanks, Alar. On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:08:23 -0500, Chuck Betz wrote: >I have experienced this same problem with the same kind of log entries in >the DHCP log. > >I believe you need to have another DHCP server to handle each subnet where >you have users that roam from subnet to subnet. I will try this after I >come back from vacation in a couple of weeks. > >My understanding is that when you assign a DHCP server to a particular >subnet(s) it does not see the entries for the subnets it is not >responsible for. In your case a DHCP server that handles the subnet and >manual entry for the 10.0.1.101 address would not see the manual entry for >10.0.0.13 because it is not responsible for that subnet. Therefore it >would assign the address since it would not see another IP address for the >particular MAC address. > >Note: This is just my understanding. I have not actually tried this yet. >Has anyone else tried this? > >Chuck Betz >Network Administrator >U.S. District Court, Eastern Missouri >314-244-7812 > >Visit the show-me state..... Missouri loves company. From mfortier at SITE.UOTTAWA.CA Wed Jul 17 16:03:44 2002 From: mfortier at SITE.UOTTAWA.CA (Marc Fortier) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:03:44 -0400 Subject: NW 5.1 sp3 and Tivoli Storage Manager In-Reply-To: <200207171419.KAA33463@mail.site.uottawa.ca> Message-ID: Hello, I'm using NW 5.1 with SP3 and TSM client 4.2.2. I'm getting alot of errors in the backup log about files not being backed up. Tivoli blames this on the clib.nlm that came with SP3. Their suggested fix is to rollback to a previous clib.nlm. Is this a safe thing to do? Marc -- Marc Fortier, School of Information Technology & Engineering, U. of Ottawa, 108-150 Louis Pasteur, Ottawa Ontario Canada, K1N 6N5 phone: (613) 562-5800 ext. 6680, fax: (613) 562-5187 mailto:mfortier at site.uottawa.ca http://www.site.uottawa.ca/~mfortier From debbie_carraway at NCSU.EDU Wed Jul 17 16:51:18 2002 From: debbie_carraway at NCSU.EDU (Debbie Carraway) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:51:18 -0400 Subject: Zen 2 to 3.2 policy problem References: Message-ID: <3D359274.4040705@ncsu.edu> Hi, On a machine that doesn't have POLEDIT locked out, you could run SnAppShot to see what changes when you disable POLEDIT. You can get around the problem by creating an application object to reverse the setting and run that on your disabled workstations. Do your workstations have the latest NetWare client + Zen 3.2 patches? Debbie Sommer Sharp wrote: > We have what is actually a very humorous problem. > > When we were running Zen 2, we had policies in effect on our student lab area that "locked down" the machines. They couldn't install programs, change settings, etc. > > I upgraded to Zen 3.2 and deleted all the old policies and recreated new ones. Our policy that should allow the administrators of the lab to unlock the computers isn't working. > > Since the old policy on the computer won't let us run poledit from the 98 CD, we can't even unlock them that way. > > Any suggestions on where I should look for info on how to get these machines unlocked? > > > Sommer Sharp, Postmaster > Systems Programmer > College of Veterinary Medicine > University of Florida > 352-392-4700 > From felix at BUSAFF.USC.EDU Wed Jul 17 17:21:20 2002 From: felix at BUSAFF.USC.EDU (Felix Roces) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:21:20 -0400 Subject: Help with Listserve command Message-ID: Hi All, Sorry, but can anyone let me know what the command to send to get emails back from the Listserv the regular way? I have set the listserv to give me the digest but now I want to go back to receiving the regular emails from the ListServ.... Thanks, Felix From JRD at CC.USU.EDU Wed Jul 17 17:27:04 2002 From: JRD at CC.USU.EDU (Joe Doupnik) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:27:04 -0400 Subject: Help with Listserve command Message-ID: <01KK7561DSLKADCL1Z@cc.usu.edu> >Sorry, but can anyone let me know what the >command to send to get emails back from=20 >the Listserv the regular way? > >I have set the listserv to give me the >digest but now I want to go back to receiving >the regular emails from the ListServ.... > >Thanks, > >Felix --------- We are but mere humans, destined to serve the mighty machines. So, please politely query the listserver machine by giving it command HELP to obtain a list of available commands. Joe D. From larry_burd at COMPUSERVE.COM Wed Jul 17 18:14:06 2002 From: larry_burd at COMPUSERVE.COM (Larry Burd) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:14:06 -0400 Subject: virus (OT) Message-ID: <200207171134_MC3-1-6D9-FB02@compuserve.com> I have a win95 ws that won't even boot. I get blue screen VXD errors immediately. I figure a virus, but a virus scan ran in safe mode runs clean. could the VXD blue screen errors likely be a virus. I may just blow away the entire system and do a win98, but I would like to find the cause of the problem. thx Larry From WD at US-WEBMASTERS.COM Wed Jul 17 18:25:48 2002 From: WD at US-WEBMASTERS.COM (W. D.) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:25:48 -0400 Subject: virus (OT) In-Reply-To: <200207171134_MC3-1-6D9-FB02@compuserve.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020717122206.041f8c00@us-webmasters.com> Hi Larry, At 10:34 7/17/2002, Larry Burd, wrote: >I have a win95 ws that won't even boot. I get blue screen VXD errors >immediately. >I figure a virus, but a virus scan ran in safe mode runs clean. could the >VXD blue screen errors likely be a virus. > >I may just blow away the entire system and do a win98, but I would like to >find the cause of the problem. If you can boot is safe mode, it's *PROBABLY* not a virus. Most likely you've got some corrupted VXD files. The best solution I've found is to reinstall Win95. If you happen to have Internet Explorer version 4 installed, you'll need to uninstall that first. Hope that helps. Start Here to Find It Fast!? -> http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ From mjeppsen at TIGER.NWSC.K12.AR.US Wed Jul 17 20:15:42 2002 From: mjeppsen at TIGER.NWSC.K12.AR.US (Matthew Jeppsen) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:15:42 -0400 Subject: Zen 2 to 3.2 policy problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003f01c22dc7$ae1e7a50$0f01010a@PIMPDADDY> Perhaps this will help regain control of the locked machines, if regedit has been disabled. You will still need to know what registry keys to modify to unlock stuff... Matt Jeppsen Technology Coordinator Prairie Grove School District > When we were running Zen 2, we had policies in effect on our > student lab area that "locked down" the machines. They > couldn't install programs, change settings, etc. > > I upgraded to Zen 3.2 and deleted all the old policies and > recreated new ones. Our policy that should allow the > administrators of the lab to unlock the computers isn't working. > > Since the old policy on the computer won't let us run poledit > from the 98 CD, we can't even unlock them that way. > > Any suggestions on where I should look for info on how to get > these machines unlocked? From jolson at EXECINC.COM Wed Jul 17 20:25:16 2002 From: jolson at EXECINC.COM (Jared P. Olson) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:25:16 -0400 Subject: NW5.5.4 - Fatal Exception OE....in VXD WSIPX Message-ID: To all who've fallen subject to the blue screen of death, any suggestions, horror stories, will help. The client OS is Win98se, based on gateway GP6-400 standard. Here's the complete error msg I receive: "Fatal Exception OE has occured at 0028: D170c961 in VXD WSIPX (01) + 00002581" -- We're Running NW 5.5.4 -- One of our PC's was acting up last week - during startup, after network authorization. To bring you along for my ride...I logged into Novell using an administrative account (it's not account-specific), and startup seemed to work properly (no blatent error messages, no irregular program abends, nothing). Our virus scan started just fine, as well as all other startup programs (including GroupWise). I reinstalled the following with no success, as of yet: The Novell Client, The GroupWise Client, Our virus scanning software. Also, I ran the FixKlez.com (just in case). Nothing seems to be helping or hurting the problem. Is there a hardware option I need to tweak, or what? Please pull me out from under this rock! Any info would help. -Jared From kmwade at GENDATASYS.COM Wed Jul 17 21:02:33 2002 From: kmwade at GENDATASYS.COM (Kevin Wade) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:02:33 -0400 Subject: Zen 2 to 3.2 policy problem In-Reply-To: <003f01c22dc7$ae1e7a50$0f01010a@PIMPDADDY> References: Message-ID: <3D3586EC.15012.57E49EE@localhost> You can also create a .reg file and import it using the DOS mode of regedit. (Command Prompt Only boot.) I used to have an unlock.reg floppy for just such an occasion, but alas that water has long since gone under the bridge; I cannot find it now. Kevin Wade -------- Original Message: > Perhaps this will help regain control of the locked machines, if regedit > has been disabled. > You will still need to know what registry keys to modify to unlock > stuff... > > Matt Jeppsen > Technology Coordinator > Prairie Grove School District > > > > When we were running Zen 2, we had policies in effect on our > > student lab area that "locked down" the machines. They > > couldn't install programs, change settings, etc. > > > > I upgraded to Zen 3.2 and deleted all the old policies and > > recreated new ones. Our policy that should allow the > > administrators of the lab to unlock the computers isn't working. > > > > Since the old policy on the computer won't let us run poledit > > from the 98 CD, we can't even unlock them that way. > > > > Any suggestions on where I should look for info on how to get > > these machines unlocked? From mahoover at ISPACEONLINE.ORG Thu Jul 18 01:49:32 2002 From: mahoover at ISPACEONLINE.ORG (Mark Hoover) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:49:32 -0400 Subject: Client 3.32 Install Issues References: <200207170350.g6H3ojg12390@linux.homershut.net> Message-ID: <3D361082.13D280AD@ispaceonline.org> Good day everyone.... I'm in the process of trying to re-image all the workstations at one of our off-site locations. We will be deploying Zen3 out to the site later this summer and I wanted to upgrade the clients at the site to Client 3.32 including the remote control agent. In trying to install the client, I get the following message on 3 out of 4 machines I've done so far. 3 of the machines were complete re-installed of Windows 95 and Windows 98, the other was a old Windows 95 install that had an old version of client on it. "Configuration failed, source file(s) missing. Please reinstall ZENworks on server." Any ideas? -- ----------------------------------------------------- Have Fun, Suffer and Survive, or Get Lost in the Net! Mark Hoover mahoover at ispaceonline.org From dmoon at PERU.K12.IN.US Thu Jul 18 01:58:35 2002 From: dmoon at PERU.K12.IN.US (Dave Moon) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:58:35 -0400 Subject: Zen 3.0 Install Message-ID: I am trying to install Zen 3.0 for the first time. We have 2 installed but not using much on it. Have a new server to install. When I get to the point to check rights it stops. Applied the applicable update tid but no change. Any ideas. Dave Moon Peru Community Schools From dbphilos at RZ.UNI-DUESSELDORF.DE Thu Jul 18 08:51:35 2002 From: dbphilos at RZ.UNI-DUESSELDORF.DE (Hans Nellissen) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 03:51:35 -0400 Subject: Help with Listserve command In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020718095102.01ef7180@mail.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de> At 09:19 17.07.2002 -0700, you wrote: >Hi All, > > >I have set the listserv to give me the >digest but now I want to go back to receiving >the regular emails from the ListServ.... SET NOVELL MAIL >Thanks, > >Felix Hans Nellissen ---------------------------------------------------------------- Heinrich-Heine-Universitaet Email:dbphilos at mail.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de Meinungsaeusserungen im vorliegenden Text stellen allein den Standpunkt des Autors dar und lassen keine Rueckschluesse auf seinen Arbeitgeber zu. Expressions of opinion in the available text represent only the point of view of the author and permit no conclusions on its employer. From admin at IAA.GOV.IL Thu Jul 18 09:10:28 2002 From: admin at IAA.GOV.IL (Mike Glassman - Admin) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 04:10:28 -0400 Subject: FW: DSREPAIR -XK3 - How to use it and why you would use it Message-ID: Of Interest, Mike > These are NEW Novell patches and files for the product(s) you have subscribed to through CNE Net. Any files mentioned in this message can be located by searching the patches and files locator at > http://support.novell.com/filefinder/6385/index.html . > > For other Novell technical information, visit the CNE Net Technical Connection at http://cnenet.novell.com/cne/tech.html . > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > TITLE: DSREPAIR -XK3 - How to use it and why you would use it > PRODUCT: Management Products; NetWare; Novell BorderManager Services; Novell Directory Services > DATE: 14DEC1999 > DOCUMENT ID: 10023339 (Solution: 1.0.43980632.2446115) > DISTRIBUTION: Public > > HOW TO > > GOAL: DSREPAIR -XK3 - How to use it and why you would use it > Removing External Reference Links and Recreating them. > FACT: Novell NetWare (all versions) > Novell Directory Services > SYMPTOM: Local DS on a server does not hold a real copy of an object and is getting errors trying to access said > object. > Server holds no replicas > ERROR -626 checking XREF ID > Error: -634 checking XREF on an object for which the server doesn't hold a real (Master, Read/Write, Read- > Only) copy > Master replica is staying substantially behind in synchronization time. > After removing a replica, users cannot log into the server. > Authentication times dramatically increased (a replica of the users' Partition is not on the server) > Error -601 reported on an object. The server reporting the error does not hold a real (Master, Read/Write, > Read Only) of the object. > Renamed (0_0) server object showing on servers that do not hold real copies of the server object. > Previously deleted objects are showing up in the tree. > CAUSE: The problem is the backlinks to the externally referenced objects have gone bad. > FIX: On the NetWare Platform: > > 1. Load DSREPAIR -XK3 | Advanced options | Repair local DS database | Check local references = Yes | F10 > to start the repair. This goes through all of the server's backlink attribute timestamps and sets them to zero. > 2. Save the repaired database and exit from DSREPAIR completely. > 3. Run the backlink process to rebuild the backlinks. At the server console prompt type: > > > SET DSTRACE=ON > SET DSTRACE=NODEBUG > SET DSTRACE=+BLINK (+ sign turns DSTRACE on as well) > SET DSTRACE=*B > > > This last process will update the timestamps on those objects that are still valid. Those that are not updated are purged the next time the janitor and flat cleaner processes run. > > > On the Windows NT\2000 Platform: > > 1. Start the NDS Services applet from the Control Panel > 2. Highlight DSREPAIR.DLM > 3. Enter -XK3 (must be in CAPS) in the Startup Parameters field and Click START. > 4. Click Repair in the menu and then Local Database Repair > 5. Make sure "Check Local References" is checked and then start the repair. > > To start the backlink process, do the following: > > 1. Start the NDS Services applet from the Control Panel > 2. Highlight DSTRACE.DLM and then Click START > 3. Click Edit in the menu and then Options > 4. Uncheck everything except the Backlinker and Backlinker Detail filters. > 5. Click OK > 6. Go back to the NDS Services applet and highlight DS.DLM and then Click Configure. > 7. Go to the Triggers tab and Click Backlinker. > > On the UNIX Platform: > > 1. At a command prompt, type ndsrepair -R -Ad -XK3 (ndsrepair and it's switches are case sensitive) > 2. Type ndstrace and Enter > 3. Type set ndstrace = *b > From sandy at SOCSCI.SOTON.AC.UK Thu Jul 18 10:56:18 2002 From: sandy at SOCSCI.SOTON.AC.UK (Sandy Mackinnon) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 05:56:18 -0400 Subject: Problems with Word Documents on Netware Server Message-ID: <3D369EAA.20722.863BD3@localhost> Some users in my department have problems opening certain Word documents which are located on a Netware server. The scenario is that they are using Client 4.83 (IP only and with the update), Windows 2000, Office 2000 and connecting to a Netware 5.1 SP4 server. When they attempt to open certain Word documents which are loaded with equations, it either takes a long time to open the document or it causes their workstation to hang. Similarly when they attempt to save to the Netware server, the save takes a long time and sometimes results in the workstation hanging. Even browsing the directory where the Word document is stored with Windows Explorer can take a long time. Client file caching is set to off on the server (SP4 inserts a line in the autoexec.ncf). When the user copies the file to the hard disk drive, they have no problems opening and saving the document; this problem appears to be related to the Netware environment. Any suggestions? Sandy Mackinnon University of Southampton sandy at socsci.soton.ac.uk From rmoletti at OPS.ORG Thu Jul 18 10:57:27 2002 From: rmoletti at OPS.ORG (Molettiere, Rich) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 05:57:27 -0400 Subject: eDir vs. AD - impartial reports Message-ID: Several weeks ago I requested help in identifying info comparing AD & eDir. While most of what was sent consisted of vendor stuff and/or studies financed by a vendor, I was able to piece a document together for our group. This group of techies and non-techies is tasked with recommending a directory service for the school district. Currently both are running although AD has only been employed in one high school for a semester and in testing setting at the district office. Yes, I understand that non-techies should not necessarily be "in" on the decision but, quite frankly, they appear at the moment to favor eDir more than AD. Our next step is draw up a demonstration document that both vendors will have to address during a 1.5 hour dog-and-pony show in August. Specifically, I need help from anyone running BOTH directory services. What can be asked of the products that will apply to both? I will be asking that the demos inclulde specific directory-enable applications/functions such as application management, soft/hardware inventory, email system management and more. If you have experience with both and had to put together such a document, what would you ask of each? BTW, in a related issue, I'm also the GroupWise member of another project that will recommend a single, district-wide email system. The GW demo was yesterday; Exchange 2000 today and a product called FirstClass tomorrow. The best thing I heard was our Exchange admin vocally touting the benefits of software installation under GW. We had numerous problems replicating a student-environment with Exchange (multiple users on a single computer). The required reconfigs just couldn't be done using the desktop security software employed in the non-ZENworks schools - no way, no how. Rich Molettiere Technology Coordinator Omaha North High School "Technology is not a free lunch." >>> Michael Balasko 06/24/02 09:08AM >>> Has anyone other than me tried this? http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/tools/1062.html That pretty much sums it up right there.... Mike Balasko CCDA, CCNP, MCNE 5, MCP, MCSE2K, SCP, N+, A+ City of Henderson DoIT Network Specialist II ph:702.565.4226 Math illiteracy affects 8 out of every 5 people. >>> allan.bank at EDS.COM 06/24/02 05:59AM >>> "which product will suit you most." be sure to understand the business needs first before you go into a phase of comparing technologies and products. /A -----Original Message----- From: Mark Johnston [mailto:Mark.Johnston at orange.net] Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 11:14 AM To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU Subject: Re: eDir vs. AD - impartial reports Guys, Firstly, I agree that NDS is a better product (just to keep this appropriate for the list), but bear in mind AD is in it's first release stage - and let's face it, not many of us were brave enough to use the very first version of NDS. However, to let it have a fair battle against NDS, can I just clear up a few things from below: Password changes take however long you configure the replication schedule to be, but when a client logs on, if the password is wrong according to the chosen DC, the client will also pass a verification attempt to the PDC Emulator operations master. If you place this correctly (i.e. near the staff that change the passwords), then this flaw diminishes. AD now does support attribute replication, though the early betas didn't. I agree, it is not hierarchical, location in the tree is just another attribute of the user - doh! You can have users with the same name in the tree, but the bit I haven't figured out yet is which property has to be different to distinguish them (due to above). You can have two "Mark Johnston"'s, but they definitely cannot have the same logon name unless in separate domains. You can have multiple GCs in the forest, but (and here's a great one), should you change the schema (which incidentally is not reversible), all the data in the GC is invalidated and the entire lot has to be replicated round all the other GCs. OK on a small campus, but an international company with slow links between sites may have major problems with this. There are tools out there for bulk editing of AD - some are on the resource kit, but you can bet your bottom dollar that an equivalent to JRB Utils (which is the tool most of us are probably dependent on for this kind of work) will be out soon (of not already). Most of the rest of what you say though is very valid and almost expected from a first release. Some others to add, a domain controller with Windows 2000 can only hold a "replica" of it's own domain. This changes in .NET and will allow any DC to hold a replica of other domains. Hence reducing the number of DCs you need in a multiple domain environment. You seem to have to know a lot more about designing an AD forest to successfully set one up, whereas with NDS, the design guidelines are very loose and it just seems to work. In answer to the original question, I would also like to see impartial comparisons between them both. However if you take the reports that both Microsoft and Novell publish about how much better their product is compared with their rivals and add a fair amount of technical understanding about both solutions, then you can gleam a good insight into which product will suit you most. Mark. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Ross" Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 7:49 AM Subject: Re: eDir vs. AD - impartial reports > Need a password changing ? Wait half an hour for the replication to > occur before trying to login again. Fast, it obviously isn't. > > A colleage of mine went on a Win2K course where they covered AD. The > instructor advised them to put as little as possible in your AD user > objects (no phone numbers, etc), as when AD sync's, it has to re-sync > the entire object, and not just the changed attributes. > > From what I've seen & heard of AD, I don't see that it can be called a > "directory" (certainly nothing like NDS or even iPlanet) More like a > flat file database pretending to be a directory. > > GTG > > >>> andersma at HBG.LTH.SE 22/06/2002 05:57:36 >>> > At 16:22 2002-06-21, you wrote: > >As part of our continuing study on adopting a standard directory, I > need > >to produce non-vendor produced and/or supported studies on the choice > of > >directory. > > > >If you have specific reports that you are sure that were not funded by > > >Novell or Microsoft, please let me know. > > It's not actually a report, but my own observations: > AD isn't a true tree, that is you can't have two users that's called > exactly the same, but in different parts of the tree. > When browsing users in AD, to give them rights for example, you don't > browse the tree. You get a browser with 2 columns: one with all the > usernames and the other with their place in the tree. > AD doesn't present it's data sorted alphabeticly, you have to tell it > to do > that. > AD is much more vulnerable to networkservices being down. For example > the > Global Catalog must be up and running (according to my instructor). If > it > isn't failures to logon can appear. And you can only have ONE global > catalog running at a time, no chance for redundancy. > AD is depending on DDNS, Dynamicly updateable DNS. > ADs default rights objects MUST NOT be erased. If they are they can > never > be recreated (again according my instructor) and you'll loose the > default > rights behavour in the tree. > NDS tools are far supperior regarding tracking down problems. I didn't > see > any such tools for AD in the short course I attended last year. > Editing multiple users in AD isn't (from what I've managed to look up) > > possible. I have to erase the password expires attribute on 400 > students, > and I have to do it manualy one by one. > > Well, this is what I can think of at the moment. To sum it up, AD is > CRAP! > I think that M$ paniced when Novell started to get advantages with > NDS/eDir > so they looked at it and made a very bad replica of it, that contains > alot > of flaws. It's a shame that I can't replace AD with NDS/eDir completly > so I > don't even have to see the s**t. (My personal oppinion...) > From G.Ross at CCW.GOV.UK Thu Jul 18 11:07:23 2002 From: G.Ross at CCW.GOV.UK (Gordon Ross) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 06:07:23 -0400 Subject: FW: DSREPAIR -XK3 - How to use it and why you would use it Message-ID: Just make sure you type the "3" rather than a "2" - unlike what I did GTG Gordon Ross, Network Manager/Rheolwr Rhydwaith Countryside Council for Wales/Cyngor Cefn Gwlad Cymru >>> admin at IAA.GOV.IL 07/18/02 09:13 AM >>> Of Interest, Mike > These are NEW Novell patches and files for the product(s) you have subscribed to through CNE Net. Any files mentioned in this message can be located by searching the patches and files locator at > http://support.novell.com/filefinder/6385/index.html . > > For other Novell technical information, visit the CNE Net Technical Connection at http://cnenet.novell.com/cne/tech.html . > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > TITLE: DSREPAIR -XK3 - How to use it and why you would use it From prandal at HEREFORDSHIRE.GOV.UK Thu Jul 18 11:24:17 2002 From: prandal at HEREFORDSHIRE.GOV.UK (Randal, Phil) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 06:24:17 -0400 Subject: Problems with Word Documents on Netware Server Message-ID: There are a few things to look at: Workstations get very slow response from the network when trying to open Word files. http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/10061185.htm Poor performance with the Novell Client for Windows NT/2000/XP: http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/10072565.htm Windows 2000 Network Delay Fix: http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/tools/1391.html ITHOWTO.COM's classic "Enhance Client32 Performance" http://www.ithowto.com/novell/clientspeed.htm Oh, and try the latest beta of Client 4.83SP1. Cheers, Phil --------------------------------------------- Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK > -----Original Message----- > From: Sandy Mackinnon [mailto:sandy at SOCSCI.SOTON.AC.UK] > Sent: 18 July 2002 10:56 > To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU > Subject: Problems with Word Documents on Netware Server > > > Some users in my department have problems opening certain Word > documents which are located on a Netware server. > > The scenario is that they are using Client 4.83 (IP only and with the > update), Windows 2000, Office 2000 and connecting to a Netware 5.1 SP4 > server. > > When they attempt to open certain Word documents which are loaded > with equations, it either takes a long time to open the document or it > causes their workstation to hang. Similarly when they > attempt to save to > the Netware server, the save takes a long time and sometimes > results in > the workstation hanging. > > Even browsing the directory where the Word document is stored with > Windows Explorer can take a long time. > > Client file caching is set to off on the server (SP4 inserts > a line in the > autoexec.ncf). > > When the user copies the file to the hard disk drive, they have no > problems opening and saving the document; this problem appears to be > related to the Netware environment. > > Any suggestions? > > Sandy Mackinnon > University of Southampton > sandy at socsci.soton.ac.uk > From chaplik at TADCOMM.COM Thu Jul 18 12:58:49 2002 From: chaplik at TADCOMM.COM (chaplik at TADCOMM.COM) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 07:58:49 -0400 Subject: Accessing files in 4.2 novell server disconnect the computer from the network Message-ID: When I try to access some files in 4.2 novell server, the computer is disconnected from the network. It seems that the files are suddenly become corrupted, What can be the reason? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://netlab1.usu.edu/pipermail/novell/attachments/20020718/a0704f8f/attachment.html From rmoletti at OPS.ORG Thu Jul 18 13:11:32 2002 From: rmoletti at OPS.ORG (Rich Molettiere) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 08:11:32 -0400 Subject: AutoDesk Inventor & VizR4 Message-ID: Has anyone tried and succeeded in snapshoting either or both of AutoDesk's Inventor or Viz R4 products? The vendor, unfamiliar with ZEN, is telling us that because of how the license info is written, that imaging does not work. Rich Molettiere Technology Coordinator Omaha North High School "Technology is not a free lunch." From larry_burd at COMPUSERVE.COM Thu Jul 18 13:23:33 2002 From: larry_burd at COMPUSERVE.COM (Larry Burd) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 08:23:33 -0400 Subject: NW5.5.4 - Fatal Exception OE....in VXD WSIPX Message-ID: <200207180819_MC3-1-710-5700@compuserve.com> I just solved my blue screen VXD errors by removing anti-virus software. win 95 with etrust innoculate. I also removed the client thinking that was the problem. now I have to reinstall the new client, and rethink anti-virus. Larry From lindblom at MICO.COM Thu Jul 18 13:32:34 2002 From: lindblom at MICO.COM (lindblom at MICO.COM) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 08:32:34 -0400 Subject: How About Zfd 3.0 on NW6 Message-ID: The question about ZfD 3.2 on NW6 got me thinking about my Zfd 3.0. I plan on upgrading to NW6 soon and I have been unable to find anything regarding 3.0 and NW6. Anyone running ZfD 3.0 on NetWare 6? John From WD at US-WEBMASTERS.COM Thu Jul 18 14:31:33 2002 From: WD at US-WEBMASTERS.COM (W. D.) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:31:33 -0400 Subject: NW5.5.4 - Fatal Exception OE....in VXD WSIPX In-Reply-To: <200207180819_MC3-1-710-5700@compuserve.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020718083055.0425b530@us-webmasters.com> At 07:19 7/18/2002, Larry Burd, wrote: >I just solved my blue screen VXD errors by removing anti-virus software. >win 95 with etrust innoculate. I also removed the client thinking that >was the problem. now I have to reinstall the new client, and rethink >anti-virus. > >Larry Norton AntiVirus works well for me. Start Here to Find It Fast!? -> http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ From MLeone at CONTRIBUTIONSHIP.COM Thu Jul 18 14:48:47 2002 From: MLeone at CONTRIBUTIONSHIP.COM (Leone, Michael) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:48:47 -0400 Subject: FW: Organizational Role question Message-ID: > I have a question about the Organizational Role object, > specifically in NW 5.1. > > The HELP in NWADMIN32 refers to the Role as being used to > give a manager certain NDS rights - change passwords, login > security, things like that. Yet the description just mentions > "a role within the organization". > > When I created a Role just now, I have no "Properties" > showing those NDS functions, as described in the HELP. I can > add members to the role; define file rights to it. Which, so > far, seems just like a GROUP object to me. :-) And in fact, > that's what I'd want to use it for - make a role of "Form > Maintainer"; add the specific employee to that role; give the > role rights to the forms directory (the specific employee who > is in charge of the forms may change over time; that's why I > thought of a Role). Ordinarily, I'd use a GROUP like that, > but I thought that the Role might be better. And so far, it is. > > The HELP refers to "dragging a manager". What is it talking about? > > Have I just fubarred something by using Role v Group in this case? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://netlab1.usu.edu/pipermail/novell/attachments/20020718/e6f5e162/attachment.html From david_macfarlane at CBC.CA Thu Jul 18 14:50:50 2002 From: david_macfarlane at CBC.CA (David MacFarlane) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:50:50 -0400 Subject: NW5.5.4 - Fatal Exception OE....in VXD WSIPX Message-ID: Larry, This may be helpful. CA recognised a problem and responded quite quickly. Excerpts from CA's mail below. David. Important eTrust Antivirus / eTrust InoculateIT Information! ============================================= A potention problem has been reported to us wherein when applying signature version 23.56.00 for eTrust Antivirus / eTrust InoculateIT 6.0, and 38.00 for Inoculan 4.0/ InoculateIT 4.x to Windows 95 as well as some early versions of Windows 98 machines, a blue screen may occur after application of these files. There are no reported issues with the NT/2000 signature versions. While we believe the scope of this problem is very limited, we are taking it very seriously and are working actively to determine the cause of the problem. We will notify you as soon as we have any further information. If you should experience this problem, please contact technical support for assistance. ============================================= Correction of Win95 blue screens reported in signature 23.56.00/38.00 ============================================= InoculateIT signatures 23.56.01/38.01 correct blue screens reported by some users of Windows 95. Corrected files are: wimmun32.vxd 640202 bytes v 38.01 dated 07-16-02. inocsig.vxd 577560 bytes v 23.56.01 dated 07-16-02 >>> larry_burd at COMPUSERVE.COM 18/07/2002 06:19:13 >>> I just solved my blue screen VXD errors by removing anti-virus software. win 95 with etrust innoculate. I also removed the client thinking that was the problem. now I have to reinstall the new client, and rethink anti-virus. Larry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://netlab1.usu.edu/pipermail/novell/attachments/20020718/8937de78/attachment.html From andersma at HBG.LTH.SE Thu Jul 18 16:34:42 2002 From: andersma at HBG.LTH.SE (Anders =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E5rtensson?=) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:34:42 -0400 Subject: Problems with Word Documents on Netware Server In-Reply-To: <3D369EAA.20722.863BD3@localhost> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020718173047.00bf5c00@mail.hbg.lth.se> What kind of anti-virus software are you useing on the client? We've had trubbles with some PowerPoint presentation and F-Secure anti-virus software. The symptoms were as you described them. Try do temporary disable the anti-virus software and then try to load the word file and see if it helps. Kind Regards Anders M?rtensson ITservice, Dept. of Nursing, Lund University, Sweden At 11:55 2002-07-18, you wrote: >Some users in my department have problems opening certain Word >documents which are located on a Netware server. > >The scenario is that they are using Client 4.83 (IP only and with the >update), Windows 2000, Office 2000 and connecting to a Netware 5.1 SP4 >server. > >When they attempt to open certain Word documents which are loaded >with equations, it either takes a long time to open the document or it >causes their workstation to hang. Similarly when they attempt to save to >the Netware server, the save takes a long time and sometimes results in >the workstation hanging. > >Even browsing the directory where the Word document is stored with >Windows Explorer can take a long time. > >Client file caching is set to off on the server (SP4 inserts a line in the >autoexec.ncf). > >When the user copies the file to the hard disk drive, they have no >problems opening and saving the document; this problem appears to be >related to the Netware environment. > >Any suggestions? > >Sandy Mackinnon >University of Southampton >sandy at socsci.soton.ac.uk From wallewek at KMSI.NET Thu Jul 18 16:36:36 2002 From: wallewek at KMSI.NET (wallewek at KMSI.NET) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:36:36 -0400 Subject: Help with Listserve command In-Reply-To: <01KK7561DSLKADCL1Z@cc.usu.edu> References: <01KK7561DSLKADCL1Z@cc.usu.edu> Message-ID: On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:26:55 -0700, you wrote: >>Sorry, but can anyone let me know what the >>command to send to get emails back from=20 >>the Listserv the regular way? >> >>I have set the listserv to give me the >>digest but now I want to go back to receiving >>the regular emails from the ListServ.... >> >>Thanks, >> >>Felix >--------- > We are but mere humans, destined to serve the mighty machines. >So, please politely query the listserver machine by giving it command >HELP to obtain a list of available commands. > Joe D. Thank you. And for those of use who have forgotten and can't find the original subscription confirmation message any more, what is the _address_ to which to send such queries, please? /kenw Ken Wallewein Calgary, Alberta kenw at kmsi.net www.kmsi.net From JRD at CC.USU.EDU Thu Jul 18 16:54:53 2002 From: JRD at CC.USU.EDU (Joe Doupnik) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:54:53 -0400 Subject: Help with Listserve command Message-ID: <01KK8I7J2PNMADCLRC@cc.usu.edu> >>>Sorry, but can anyone let me know what the >>>command to send to get emails back from=20 >>>the Listserv the regular way? >>> >>>I have set the listserv to give me the >>>digest but now I want to go back to receiving >>>the regular emails from the ListServ.... >>> >>>Thanks, >>> >>>Felix >>--------- >> We are but mere humans, destined to serve the mighty machines. >>So, please politely query the listserver machine by giving it command >>HELP to obtain a list of available commands. >> Joe D. > >Thank you. > >And for those of use who have forgotten and can't find the original >subscription confirmation message any more, what is the _address_ to which >to send such queries, please? > >/kenw >Ken Wallewein >Calgary, Alberta >kenw at kmsi.net >www.kmsi.net ---------- This is another case of the classical problem of finding things in a diverse environment. Tis a puzzle these days. So, if searching Google or equiv is not productive (it _is_ distractive) then we revert to rote memory about listservers. The classical listserver machine likes to help by having messages sent to its username, which is listserv. It's vocabulary is limited so we try a one word message, HELP, as openers. It usually works. The catch is remembering how to spell the username, and the whole mechanism too. Sigh, that's life with complexity. As a reminder which fits onto a small piece of paper, below is my standard registration blurb for the list. Joe D. --------- The novell at lsv.syr.edu list is for Novell-specific topics, principally NetWare and related material. It is a privately operated listserver; it is NOT a News group, no matter how you receive material. The items below are to assist you in dealing with the listserver machine. If you have subscribed to the list and wish to send messages to all list members then send them to novell at lsv.syr.edu If you have subscribed to the list and wish to control your listserver subscription (talk to the listserver machine proper, not to the list of people) then send Email to listserv at lsv.syr.edu A one line message HELP should give you a nice thick instruction manual. Remember, it's a machine doing the parsing so omit all human-speak, no signature stuff, no fancy things). If you wish to subscribe or unsubscribe send to address listserv at lsv.syr.edu and use a ONE LINE message (no .sigs, no fancy stuff, just one bare line) saying either subscribe novell your-real-name or unsubscribe novell The listserver machine will read the mailgram headers to discover your Email return address; be sure to subscribe from the proper address! If you can't unsubscribe because your Email address is no longer the same as when you subscribed (alas, please don't let that happen) then contact a human at novell-request at lsv.syr.edu and explain the problem. Don't send the problem to me (see below). If traffic to your Email address bounces your subscription will be terminated. In such cases please see your Email Responsible Person, get the matter straightened out locally, ensure your machine has a proper and valid Domain Name Server MX (mail exchange) record and that your mailers actually work. Then try resubscribing. Many mailers are broken: they may provide incorrect or fragmentary headers. Many mailers are broken: they may not know how to properly queue messages or route them locally. Broken mailers mean you lose. A few people forget to unsubscribe or turn off Mail at the listserver machine while they travel. Fewer foolishly send back "vacation" messages to each arriving message; don't let that happen to you. Smart sites may wish to take out one subscription for the entire site, and place the traffic into a local fake NEWS group for general reading. That does not make the list NEWS, and the list is NOT a NEWS group. This saves network bandwidth, saves cpu cyles at Syracuse, and provides easy access to people who do not wish to subscribe. A note: I live in Utah; the list machine is at Syracuse Univ in New York State. That's a long way from my place and I have no priv'd control at all over the machine. Thus I cannot control your subscription even if I wanted to assist. The folks who do have control all work at Syracuse Univ, so please contact them as instructed above. I worry about the content of the list traffic, they worry about traffic delivery. Joe Doupnik jrd at cc.usu.edu (that's Utah State University) From weaver at ARCHES.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 18 16:56:08 2002 From: weaver at ARCHES.UGA.EDU (Michael Weaver) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:56:08 -0400 Subject: Help with Listserve command In-Reply-To: References: <01KK7561DSLKADCL1Z@cc.usu.edu> Message-ID: <10700828.1026993133@hermes.ucns.uga.edu> --On Thursday, July 18, 2002 9:35 AM -0600 wallewek at KMSI.NET wrote: > And for those of use who have forgotten and can't find the original > subscription confirmation message any more, what is the _address_ to which > to send such queries, please? listserv at lsv.syr.edu Going to http://lsv.syr.edu, one discovers all the documentation for the list on-line, as well as a web interface for managing one's list subscription. Take care, Mike -- Michael Weaver (706)542-6462 weaver at arches.uga.edu Engineering Services EITS University of Georgia, Athens Ga. )O( Public PGP key: http://www.arches.uga.edu/~weaver/pgp.html From ian.kennedy at DTU.OX.AC.UK Thu Jul 18 16:58:20 2002 From: ian.kennedy at DTU.OX.AC.UK (Ian Kennedy) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:58:20 -0400 Subject: NFA and MacOS X Message-ID: <3D36E6F0.6070503@dtu.ox.ac.uk> Hi, Is anyone using Native File Access (NFA) and MacOS X successfully? We have an odd situation here. We have a NW5.1 server (currently on sp3), with two volumes, one called sys and one called data. When we use MacOS 9.2.2 to access the server both volumes can be mounted and accessed quite happily. When we access the server under MacOS X (10.1.5) we can again login and mount the volumes, however, only the SYS volume will show any folders or files. The data volumn appears to be completly empty. You can however drop files on to it and they are visible until you close and reopen the window. The volumes are both traditional Netware file system (ie. not NSS), the SYS is about 18GB and the data 136GB in size. -- Ian Kennedy Internet : ken at dtu.ox.ac.uk Applications Programmer Phone : (+44) (0)1865 224436 Diabetes Trials Unit, RI, Oxford, England Fax : (+44) (0)1865 723826 From felix at BUSAFF.USC.EDU Thu Jul 18 17:20:24 2002 From: felix at BUSAFF.USC.EDU (Felix Roces) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:20:24 -0400 Subject: Help with Listserve command Message-ID: Hi Joe, Thanks for the info on sending HELP to the Listserv :-> I subscribed a long way back so forgot how to turn the digest off... So much complexity huh? :-> Felix >> We are but mere humans, destined to serve the mighty machines. >>So, please politely query the listserver machine by giving it command >>HELP to obtain a list of available commands. >> Joe D. > >Thank you. > >And for those of use who have forgotten and can't find the original >subscription confirmation message any more, what is the _address_ to which >to send such queries, please? > >/kenw >Ken Wallewein >Calgary, Alberta >kenw at kmsi.net >www.kmsi.net From john_navarro at BUSINESSWEEK.COM Thu Jul 18 17:23:08 2002 From: john_navarro at BUSINESSWEEK.COM (John Navarro) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:23:08 -0400 Subject: NFA and MacOS X References: <3D36E6F0.6070503@dtu.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: <3D36EB60.9090906@businessweek.com> edit the AFPSTRT.NCF file and make sure the "count" option is specified. ex: load afptcp count Ian Kennedy wrote: > Hi, > Is anyone using Native File Access (NFA) and MacOS X successfully? > We have an odd situation here. We have a NW5.1 server (currently on > sp3), with two volumes, one called sys and one called data. When we > use MacOS 9.2.2 to access the server both volumes can be mounted and > accessed quite happily. When we access the server under MacOS X (10.1.5) > we can again login and mount the volumes, however, only the SYS volume > will show any folders or files. The data volumn appears to be completly > empty. You can however drop files on to it and they are visible until > you close and reopen the window. The volumes are both traditional > Netware file system (ie. not NSS), the SYS is about 18GB and the data > 136GB in size. > > -- > Ian Kennedy Internet : ken at dtu.ox.ac.uk > Applications Programmer Phone : (+44) (0)1865 224436 > Diabetes Trials Unit, RI, Oxford, England Fax : (+44) (0)1865 723826 From John at COASTAL.EDU Thu Jul 18 17:26:39 2002 From: John at COASTAL.EDU (John Hanna) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:26:39 -0400 Subject: DHCP question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Here is an idea. unload dhcpsrvr.nlm and then reload with -d3 switch. This will turn on the DHCP debug screen. Then recreate your situation and see what the screen and/or dhcplog file shows is happening. You can watch the conversation between the server and the workstation and get an idea of what is happening. >-----Original Message----- >From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of >Alar Pandis >Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 10:20 AM >To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU >Subject: Re: DHCP question > > >Hi and thanks! >Yes, but when no IP-address is assigned to computer or You put IP-address >manually on computer and then remove it and tru to get IP-address >from DHCP- >server then everything goes ok! DHCP-server is on BorderManager computer >from where is all subnets started. Also, this same notice in log shows that >DHCP-server is reached (W2K error is that can't find server) and in DHCP- >console is all subnets specified - there is possible to specify several >subnets for DHCP. I do not see the problem why not! But, well, I'm not >specialist. Also, I noticed that sometimes is no problem with assigning IP- >addresses for computers with another IP-addresses. >Have anyone some ideas? >More thanks, >Alar. > >On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:08:23 -0500, Chuck Betz > wrote: > >>I have experienced this same problem with the same kind of log entries in >>the DHCP log. >> >>I believe you need to have another DHCP server to handle each subnet where >>you have users that roam from subnet to subnet. I will try this after I >>come back from vacation in a couple of weeks. >> >>My understanding is that when you assign a DHCP server to a particular >>subnet(s) it does not see the entries for the subnets it is not >>responsible for. In your case a DHCP server that handles the subnet and >>manual entry for the 10.0.1.101 address would not see the manual entry for >>10.0.0.13 because it is not responsible for that subnet. Therefore it >>would assign the address since it would not see another IP address for the >>particular MAC address. >> >>Note: This is just my understanding. I have not actually tried this yet. >>Has anyone else tried this? >> >>Chuck Betz >>Network Administrator >>U.S. District Court, Eastern Missouri >>314-244-7812 >> >>Visit the show-me state..... Missouri loves company. > From network at KASB.ORG Thu Jul 18 18:11:01 2002 From: network at KASB.ORG (TOM SIEMERS) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:11:01 -0400 Subject: Netscape Enterprise Server software virtual server problem Message-ID: We upgraded from NW 4.11 to NW 5.1 SP4 about a month ago. I've been trying to get a software virtual server configured for about half that time with little success. I've created the virtual server, and it will serve up the index.html file that is in place. But it will not let anyone access any other files in the same directory, giving them a 404-File Not Found error. Anyone run across the same problem? I can post config files if necessary, just let me know what is needed. Thanks. Tom ............................................................. Tom Siemers Technology Specialist Kansas Association of School Boards network at kasb.org ............................................................. From dmoon at PERU.K12.IN.US Thu Jul 18 18:31:10 2002 From: dmoon at PERU.K12.IN.US (Dave Moon) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:31:10 -0400 Subject: Netscape Enterprise Server software virtual server problem Message-ID: make sure the public trustee has RF rights to the docs directory you are using. Dave Moon Peru Community Schools From KANFERM at WSDVT.ORG Thu Jul 18 18:58:46 2002 From: KANFERM at WSDVT.ORG (Mike Kanfer) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:58:46 -0400 Subject: NDS Problem Message-ID: We have 2 NW5.1SP4 servers with replicas running DS v8.79 and two NW6SP1 servers running DS10310.17. For one the 6's was upgraded yesterday from 5.1, sp4. It threw everything into the air!! Now I am getting -669 can authenticate between servers when I run DSRepair and DSTRACE. Synchronization in not happening very well. Anyone have any ideas on how to fix this problem? Thanks. From Alar at MTK.UT.EE Thu Jul 18 19:19:57 2002 From: Alar at MTK.UT.EE (Alar Pandis) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:19:57 -0400 Subject: Unauthorized computers reaching internet - how can I avoid that behind BM firewall? Message-ID: <003501c22e87$b0778240$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> Hi! NW51SP3a. BorderManager 3.6. FireWall and NAT configured. Students (coming with own laptops). How can I avoid that unauthorized computers can reach outside world (internet) through our FireWall? I mean, I share IP-addresses with DHCP (there is permanent and dynamically assigned addresses). I have filtering rules based on IP address on BM box. When some student is coming and plugs in computer (in place of computerroom computer) then computer will provided with dynamic IP-address (or student will assign IP-addres by himself manually) and voila - there is internet. Well, I can use switch security (I do), but some switch ports is needed to be for several computers using this port and I need to filter out unauthorized use (based on MAC-addresses; additionally to IP-based filters). Any ideas how can I do that? More thanks, Alar. ------------------------------------------------------ Alar Pandis IT Manager Faculty of Economics and Business Administration Tartu University, Narva 4-B303, 51009 Tartu, ESTONIA tel +372 7 376 316, fax +372 7 376 312 e-mail Alar at mtk.ut.ee ------------------------------------------------------ From mike at NETWORKIT-INC.COM Thu Jul 18 20:13:48 2002 From: mike at NETWORKIT-INC.COM (Mike DeWitt) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 15:13:48 -0400 Subject: Unauthorized computers reaching internet - how can I avoid thatbehind BM firewall? Message-ID: Enable authentication on your BM box. Mike >>> Alar at MTK.UT.EE 07/18/02 13:19 PM >>> Hi! NW51SP3a. BorderManager 3.6. FireWall and NAT configured. Students (coming with own laptops). How can I avoid that unauthorized computers can reach outside world (internet) through our FireWall? I mean, I share IP-addresses with DHCP (there is permanent and dynamically assigned addresses). I have filtering rules based on IP address on BM box. When some student is coming and plugs in computer (in place of computerroom computer) then computer will provided with dynamic IP-address (or student will assign IP-addres by himself manually) and voila - there is internet. Well, I can use switch security (I do), but some switch ports is needed to be for several computers using this port and I need to filter out unauthorized use (based on MAC-addresses; additionally to IP-based filters). Any ideas how can I do that? More thanks, Alar. ------------------------------------------------------ Alar Pandis IT Manager Faculty of Economics and Business Administration Tartu University, Narva 4-B303, 51009 Tartu, ESTONIA tel +372 7 376 316, fax +372 7 376 312 e-mail Alar at mtk.ut.ee ------------------------------------------------------ From jserrone at UHS.EDU Thu Jul 18 20:34:47 2002 From: jserrone at UHS.EDU (Joe Serrone) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 15:34:47 -0400 Subject: SYS:PUBLIC Message-ID: Is there a proper way to remove all Netware utilities from the SYS:PUBLIC directory without affecting things that users do or would need to do? I want to eliminate the browsing and curiosity to the files in this directory. I would like to move the files to another directory for our Administrators and then map them a search drive in the system login script...Will this work? Joe Serrone Systems Manager University of Health Sciences 1750 Independence Avenue Kansas City, MO 64106-1453 Phone: 816.283.2472 Fax: 816.283.0692 E-mail: jserrone at uhs.edu From JRD at CC.USU.EDU Thu Jul 18 20:39:44 2002 From: JRD at CC.USU.EDU (Joe Doupnik) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 15:39:44 -0400 Subject: SYS:PUBLIC Message-ID: <01KK8Q46CHQWADCMZ5@cc.usu.edu> >Is there a proper way to remove all Netware utilities from the SYS:PUBLIC = >directory without affecting things that users do or would need to do? I = >want to eliminate the browsing and curiosity to the files in this = >directory. > >I would like to move the files to another directory for our Administrators = >and then map them a search drive in the system login script...Will this = >work? > >Joe Serrone >Systems Manager >University of Health Sciences >1750 Independence Avenue >Kansas City, MO 64106-1453 >Phone: 816.283.2472=20 >Fax: 816.283.0692 >E-mail: jserrone at uhs.edu ------- You are experiencing what all of us have gone through over many years. Relax, there is little to worry about. Novell is quickly removing all DOS based programs (so save copies in a safe place!), leaving sundry Windows things. What's left is harmless. Users cannot see things to which they have no rights, as if the things did not exist at all. Be cautious about login script mappings. They often intefer with individual setups. So don't. Put sensitive things in a standard spot and let admin folks fetch as they wish. Joe D. From ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU Thu Jul 18 22:04:51 2002 From: ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU (Joe Acquisto) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 17:04:51 -0400 Subject: Way OT - Message-ID: Begging forgiveness up front - I'd like to converse, off list, about an inheretly flawed concept (IMO) called - "shared neutral" or "common neutral", (AKA "Edison Circuit ?) an electrical wiring practice allowed (?) by the (US) National Electrical Code. Way OT (mostly, tho there is some concern about "clean power" issues, harmonics, for instance), but certain to interest some. ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin, 1755 --------------------------------------------------- From G.Ross at CCW.GOV.UK Thu Jul 18 22:12:27 2002 From: G.Ross at CCW.GOV.UK (Gordon Ross) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 17:12:27 -0400 Subject: SYS:PUBLIC Message-ID: Call me paranoid, but I always worry about NWAdmin & C1 being in PUBLIC. Why would a user need these tools ? Surely they should live elsewhere (maybe SYSTEM, or say, SYSTEM\ADMIN ?) GTG >>> JRD at CC.USU.EDU 07/18/02 20:40 PM >>> >Is there a proper way to remove all Netware utilities from the SYS:PUBLIC = >directory without affecting things that users do or would need to do? I = >want to eliminate the browsing and curiosity to the files in this = >directory. > >I would like to move the files to another directory for our Administrators = >and then map them a search drive in the system login script...Will this = >work? [snip] ------- You are experiencing what all of us have gone through over many years. Relax, there is little to worry about. Novell is quickly removing all DOS based programs (so save copies in a safe place!), leaving sundry Windows things. What's left is harmless. Users cannot see things to which they have no rights, as if the things did not exist at all. Be cautious about login script mappings. They often intefer with individual setups. So don't. Put sensitive things in a standard spot and let admin folks fetch as they wish. Joe D. From G.Ross at CCW.GOV.UK Thu Jul 18 22:15:50 2002 From: G.Ross at CCW.GOV.UK (Gordon Ross) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 17:15:50 -0400 Subject: Way OT - Message-ID: I'm sure you could argue that a discussion on clean power is a valid discussion for network admins. We've all got our own horror stories about strange things happening with dirty power. GTG >>> ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU 07/18/02 22:10 PM >>> Begging forgiveness up front - I'd like to converse, off list, about an inheretly flawed concept (IMO) called - "shared neutral" or "common neutral", (AKA "Edison Circuit ?) an electrical wiring practice allowed (?) by the (US) National Electrical Code. Way OT (mostly, tho there is some concern about "clean power" issues, harmonics, for instance), but certain to interest some. From Mark.Puchalski at HONIGMAN.COM Thu Jul 18 22:26:57 2002 From: Mark.Puchalski at HONIGMAN.COM (Mark Puchalski) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 17:26:57 -0400 Subject: DS 85.27c Message-ID: Anyone apply DS 85.27c to their NetWare 5.1 environment yet? If so, have you experienced any related issues, or has it been smooth sailing? We're on 85.26 now, and are looking to deploy 85.27c to fix some Arcserve issues that will hopefully allow us to reduce the number of replicas we have. Thank you. -------------------------------------------------------------- Mark A. 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URL: http://netlab1.usu.edu/pipermail/novell/attachments/20020718/c86dd1e6/attachment.html From John at COASTAL.EDU Thu Jul 18 22:35:05 2002 From: John at COASTAL.EDU (John Hanna) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 17:35:05 -0400 Subject: SYS:PUBLIC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Or the real one to worry about is rcon*.exe I now users are not suppose to be able to gain access unless they are given console rights, but it makes me paranoid too, so I usually move these to \system. >-----Original Message----- >From: Novell LAN Interest Group [mailto:NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of >Gordon Ross >Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 5:12 PM >To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU >Subject: Re: SYS:PUBLIC > > >Call me paranoid, but I always worry about NWAdmin & C1 being in PUBLIC. >Why would a user need these tools ? Surely they should live elsewhere >(maybe SYSTEM, or say, SYSTEM\ADMIN ?) > >GTG > >>>> JRD at CC.USU.EDU 07/18/02 20:40 PM >>> >>Is there a proper way to remove all Netware utilities from the >SYS:PUBLIC = >>directory without affecting things that users do or would need to do? I >= >>want to eliminate the browsing and curiosity to the files in this = >>directory. >> >>I would like to move the files to another directory for our >Administrators = >>and then map them a search drive in the system login script...Will this >= >>work? >[snip] >------- > You are experiencing what all of us have gone through over many >years. Relax, there is little to worry about. Novell is quickly removing >all DOS based programs (so save copies in a safe place!), leaving sundry >Windows things. What's left is harmless. Users cannot see things to >which >they have no rights, as if the things did not exist at all. > Be cautious about login script mappings. They often intefer with >individual setups. So don't. Put sensitive things in a standard spot and >let admin folks fetch as they wish. > Joe D. > From MPB at GTY.CI.HENDERSON.NV.US Thu Jul 18 22:40:56 2002 From: MPB at GTY.CI.HENDERSON.NV.US (Michael Balasko) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 17:40:56 -0400 Subject: Imaging a Netware Server Message-ID: Does anyone have a set of guidelines of how to image a Netware server for rapid deployment? I'm trying to formulate a set of guidelines on how to do it, and here are a few of the problems I see. First server in the tree- Not sure this is ideal because of Web, Crypto, SSL, and the Master replica. The rest of them is where I'd like to focus my attention. I think if I bring up a machine, patch it, rip off DS I should be good. How over simplifed is that idea? Any pointers would be appreciated.... Mike Balasko CCDA, CCNP, MCNE 5, MCP, MCSE2K, SCP, N+, A+ City of Henderson DoIT Network Specialist II ph:702.565.4226 Math illiteracy affects 8 out of every 5 people. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://netlab1.usu.edu/pipermail/novell/attachments/20020718/ed0691fa/attachment.html From wallewek at KMSI.NET Thu Jul 18 23:00:05 2002 From: wallewek at KMSI.NET (wallewek at KMSI.NET) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 18:00:05 -0400 Subject: SYS:PUBLIC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4edeju8k98kdf63felnn18q8u7kbu77dvc@4ax.com> On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:12:01 +0100, you wrote: >Call me paranoid, but I always worry about NWAdmin & C1 being in PUBLIC. >Why would a user need these tools ? Surely they should live elsewhere >(maybe SYSTEM, or say, SYSTEM\ADMIN ?) > >GTG Actually, there is one very good reason. Admins who are following best practices will try to remain logged in as normal users as much as possible, for a variety of very good reasons. The more admins can do without compromising system security, the more they can avoid logging in as admins -- which actually improves security. Granted, it's often so much of a pain to try to do useful work without admin priviledges, and wind up switching back and forth, most don't bother. The Unix "su" command (emulated by Microsoft's "run as") works well for this. Pity. /kenw Ken Wallewein Calgary, Alberta kenw at kmsi.net www.kmsi.net From dkearns at VQUILL.COM Fri Jul 19 00:02:40 2002 From: dkearns at VQUILL.COM (Dave Kearns) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 19:02:40 -0400 Subject: SYS:PUBLIC References: Message-ID: <061b01c22eaf$329d4f80$210110ac@MOMMA> From: "Gordon Ross" > > Call me paranoid, but I always worry about NWAdmin & > C1 being in PUBLIC. > and From: "John Hanna" > > Or the real one to worry about is rcon*.exe > I now users are not suppose to be able to gain > access unless they are given console rights, > Not "supposed to", John - they *cannot* gain access without explicitly granting them the rights to do so. And, Gordon, there are quite legitimate reasons for users to use NWADMIN, especially if you allow them to maintain their own non-critical properties (phone number, etc.). Spend your time worrying about the real security holes. Normal users with access to these utilities can't do anything you won't let them do. Anyone bent on unethical behavior will bring his own tools.... -dave From debbie_carraway at NCSU.EDU Fri Jul 19 01:09:24 2002 From: debbie_carraway at NCSU.EDU (Debbie Carraway) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:09:24 -0400 Subject: Client 3.32 Install Issues References: <200207170350.g6H3ojg12390@linux.homershut.net> <3D361082.13D280AD@ispaceonline.org> Message-ID: <3D3758B4.6060702@ncsu.edu> Hi, Have you tried re-downloading & expanding the client 3.32 files? I'm not sure how you're deploying (ACU?), but fwiw, I had the best luck with copying the client install files down locally to c:\temp\nwcxxx via the login script (xcopy32), and then running the ACU from the local copy... Debbie Mark Hoover wrote: > Good day everyone.... > > I'm in the process of trying to re-image all the workstations at one > of our off-site locations. We will be deploying Zen3 out to the site > later this summer and I wanted to upgrade the clients at the site to > Client 3.32 including the remote control agent. > > In trying to install the client, I get the following message on 3 out > of 4 machines I've done so far. 3 of the machines were complete > re-installed of Windows 95 and Windows 98, the other was a old > Windows 95 install that had an old version of client on it. > > "Configuration failed, source file(s) missing. Please reinstall > ZENworks on server." > > Any ideas? > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------- > Have Fun, Suffer and Survive, or Get Lost in the Net! > > Mark Hoover > mahoover at ispaceonline.org > From debbie_carraway at NCSU.EDU Fri Jul 19 01:14:45 2002 From: debbie_carraway at NCSU.EDU (Debbie Carraway) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:14:45 -0400 Subject: Zen 3.0 Install References: Message-ID: <3D3759E0.30607@ncsu.edu> Hi, You haven't provided enough information... - Are you installing Zen 3.0 rather than 3.2? Version 3.0 is rather buggy and is not the shipping/supported version. - What is the operating system & version of your server? - You have 2 *what* installed? workstations? servers? .... - Which TID? - Has the schema in your tree already been extended for Zen 3? If not, are you installing with an account that has [S]upervisor rights to the [Root]? Debbie Dave Moon wrote: > I am trying to install Zen 3.0 for the first time. We have 2 installed but not using much on it. Have a new server to install. > > When I get to the point to check rights it stops. > > Applied the applicable update tid but no change. > > Any ideas. > > > > Dave Moon > Peru Community Schools > From acquistj at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU Fri Jul 19 01:17:51 2002 From: acquistj at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU (Joe Acquisto) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:17:51 -0400 Subject: Way OT - Message-ID: >>>> G.Ross at CCW.GOV.UK 07/18/02 17:16 PM >>> >I'm sure you could argue that a discussion on clean >>power is a valid >discussion for network admins. We've all got our own >horror stories >about strange things happening with dirty power. > I could do. But, I gotta confess, this is motivated by a mostly personal "homeland" issue. There is a bit written about how such ciruits lead to harmonics, surges, and voltage sags. All of which can disrupt our sensitive charges (no pun intended). joea/ PS. Sorry I don't know how to spell inherently. > >GTG From debbie_carraway at NCSU.EDU Fri Jul 19 01:25:55 2002 From: debbie_carraway at NCSU.EDU (Debbie Carraway) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:25:55 -0400 Subject: NDS Problem References: Message-ID: <3D375C90.3060909@ncsu.edu> Hi, Are your NW6 servers holding replicas as well? Which one is the master? Are you seeing the -669 errors in DSREPAIR between all the servers? You'll be better off not mix DS 8 and eDirectory 8.6x; upgrade everything (both NetWare 5.1 & 6) servers to eDirectory 8.6.2 sp1 once your DS is healthy again. Debbie Mike Kanfer wrote: > We have 2 NW5.1SP4 servers with replicas running DS v8.79 and two NW6SP1 servers running DS10310.17. For one the 6's was upgraded yesterday from 5.1, sp4. It threw everything into the air!! Now I am getting -669 can authenticate between servers when I run DSRepair and DSTRACE. Synchronization in not happening very well. > > Anyone have any ideas on how to fix this problem? > > Thanks. > From Alar at MTK.UT.EE Fri Jul 19 08:35:55 2002 From: Alar at MTK.UT.EE (Alar Pandis) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 03:35:55 -0400 Subject: Unauthorized computers reaching internet - how can I avoid thatbehind BM firewall? Message-ID: Hi and thanks! This does not prevent using unauthorized computers, does it? All computers behind BM need to be managed and known. Well, also we do have here coming people (students) from other faculties etc. who does not have here username etc. They may reach internet when they register computers here. But when they don't they can also, but I want to prevent this last. More thanks, Alar. On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:12:01 -0500, Mike DeWitt wrote: >Enable authentication on your BM box. > >Mike > >>>> Alar at MTK.UT.EE 07/18/02 13:19 PM >>> >Hi! >NW51SP3a. BorderManager 3.6. FireWall and NAT configured. Students >(coming with own laptops). >How can I avoid that unauthorized computers can reach outside world >(internet) through our FireWall? I mean, I share IP-addresses with DHCP >(there is permanent and dynamically assigned addresses). I have >filtering rules based on IP address on BM box. When some student is >coming and plugs in computer (in place of computerroom computer) then >computer will provided with dynamic IP-address (or student will assign >IP-addres by himself manually) and voila - there is internet. Well, I >can use switch security (I do), but some switch ports is needed to be >for several computers using this port and I need to filter out >unauthorized use (based on MAC-addresses; additionally to IP-based >filters). >Any ideas how can I do that? >More thanks, >Alar. >------------------------------------------------------ >Alar Pandis >IT Manager >Faculty of Economics and Business Administration >Tartu University, Narva 4-B303, 51009 >Tartu, ESTONIA >tel +372 7 376 316, fax +372 7 376 312 >e-mail Alar at mtk.ut.ee >------------------------------------------------------ From paca at SCI.FI Fri Jul 19 08:37:53 2002 From: paca at SCI.FI (Petri Asikainen) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 03:37:53 -0400 Subject: NFA and MacOS X References: <200207190401.g6J41QJ2026400@fe04.mail.jippii.net> Message-ID: <3D37C022.702@sci.fi> Try to unload NFA, remove DESKTOP.MAC DESKTOP.AFP directories from volume root. Reload NFA, this will rebuild desktop-databases. I fixed same kind of problem this way. Petri From dbphilos at RZ.UNI-DUESSELDORF.DE Fri Jul 19 08:38:14 2002 From: dbphilos at RZ.UNI-DUESSELDORF.DE (Hans Nellissen) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 03:38:14 -0400 Subject: SYS:PUBLIC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020719093652.01f10080@mail.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de> At 17:28 18.07.2002 -0400, you wrote: >Or the real one to worry about is rcon*.exe I now users are not suppose to >be able to gain access unless they are given console rights, but it makes me >paranoid too, so I usually move these to \system. Why not remove rights for normal users? Give admin fully access and normal users remove rights to the files? Hans Nellissen ---------------------------------------------------------------- Heinrich-Heine-Universitaet Email:dbphilos at mail.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de Meinungsaeusserungen im vorliegenden Text stellen allein den Standpunkt des Autors dar und lassen keine Rueckschluesse auf seinen Arbeitgeber zu. Expressions of opinion in the available text represent only the point of view of the author and permit no conclusions on its employer. From tch at IQX.CO.UK Fri Jul 19 09:30:10 2002 From: tch at IQX.CO.UK (Tim Heywood) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 04:30:10 -0400 Subject: Unauthorized computers reaching internet - how can I avoidthatbehind BM firewall? Message-ID: If you have set the BM server to allow only HTTP traffic etc. to go out through the proxy, then you have the ability to control USERs access to the net. BM 's access control is user based not IP number based. So unless the student has stolen your login and password, they are not going anywhere. You can also set up filters that allow certain IP numbers (your workstation?) to bypass the proxy... Tim ************************* Tim Heywood Scotland (God's Country) ************************* >>> Alar at MTK.UT.EE 07/19/02 08:35am >>> From: Alar at MTK.UT.EE Sent: Friday, 19 July, 2002 08:35 To: Subject: Re: Unauthorized computers reaching internet - how can I avoidthatbehind BM firewall? Priority: Normal Hi and thanks! This does not prevent using unauthorized computers, does it? All computers behind BM need to be managed and known. Well, also we do have here coming people (students) from other faculties etc. who does not have here username etc. They may reach internet when they register computers here. But when they don't they can also, but I want to prevent this last. More thanks, Alar. On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:12:01 -0500, Mike DeWitt wrote: >Enable authentication on your BM box. > >Mike > >>>> Alar at MTK.UT.EE 07/18/02 13:19 PM >>> >Hi! >NW51SP3a. BorderManager 3.6. FireWall and NAT configured. Students >(coming with own laptops). >How can I avoid that unauthorized computers can reach outside world >(internet) through our FireWall? I mean, I share IP-addresses with DHCP >(there is permanent and dynamically assigned addresses). I have >filtering rules based on IP address on BM box. When some student is >coming and plugs in computer (in place of computerroom computer) then >computer will provided with dynamic IP-address (or student will assign >IP-addres by himself manually) and voila - there is internet. Well, I >can use switch security (I do), but some switch ports is needed to be >for several computers using this port and I need to filter out >unauthorized use (based on MAC-addresses; additionally to IP-based >filters). >Any ideas how can I do that? >More thanks, >Alar. >------------------------------------------------------ >Alar Pandis >IT Manager >Faculty of Economics and Business Administration >Tartu University, Narva 4-B303, 51009 >Tartu, ESTONIA >tel +372 7 376 316, fax +372 7 376 312 >e-mail Alar at mtk.ut.ee >------------------------------------------------------ From john_navarro at BUSINESSWEEK.COM Fri Jul 19 13:18:02 2002 From: john_navarro at BUSINESSWEEK.COM (John Navarro) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 08:18:02 -0400 Subject: NFA and MacOS X References: <200207190401.g6J41QJ2026400@fe04.mail.jippii.net> <3D37C022.702@sci.fi> Message-ID: <3D380375.9060408@businessweek.com> You also could perform the same by issuing the folowing command while AFPTCP is loaded: dtreset [volume name] Only do one volume at a time and let it finish. If not you may crash the server. Petri Asikainen wrote: > Try to unload NFA, remove DESKTOP.MAC DESKTOP.AFP directories from > volume root. > Reload NFA, this will rebuild desktop-databases. I fixed same kind of > problem this way. > > Petri From john_navarro at BUSINESSWEEK.COM Fri Jul 19 13:18:39 2002 From: john_navarro at BUSINESSWEEK.COM (John Navarro) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 08:18:39 -0400 Subject: NFA and MacOS X References: <200207190401.g6J41QJ2026400@fe04.mail.jippii.net> <3D37C022.702@sci.fi> Message-ID: <3D38039B.1080309@businessweek.com> BTW, what version of AFPTCP do you have? Petri Asikainen wrote: > Try to unload NFA, remove DESKTOP.MAC DESKTOP.AFP directories from > volume root. > Reload NFA, this will rebuild desktop-databases. I fixed same kind of > problem this way. > > Petri From MLeone at CONTRIBUTIONSHIP.COM Fri Jul 19 13:27:03 2002 From: MLeone at CONTRIBUTIONSHIP.COM (Leone, Michael) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 08:27:03 -0400 Subject: SYS:PUBLIC Message-ID: > Granted, it's often so much of a pain to try to do useful work without > admin priviledges, and wind up switching back and forth, most > don't bother. > The Unix "su" command (emulated by Microsoft's "run as") works well for > this. Pity. I thought "run as" was equivalent to "sudo" - IOW, run just this ONE command as the admin user. "su" is different, in that everything you do from that point on is as the admin user, until you exit the su command. But you're right - at home on my Linux box, I do things as a normal user, and sudo (or su, when I have a sequence of command s I need to do) as needed. But I can't su in Win2K, so my NW acct is admin-equivalent. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://netlab1.usu.edu/pipermail/novell/attachments/20020719/40ee0f77/attachment.html From ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU Fri Jul 19 14:06:49 2002 From: ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU (Joe Acquisto) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:06:49 -0400 Subject: utility find hidden and delete Message-ID: Anyone have a ready made utility that can find and delete hidden files created before a specified date? ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin, 1755 --------------------------------------------------- From lindblom at MICO.COM Fri Jul 19 14:15:19 2002 From: lindblom at MICO.COM (lindblom at MICO.COM) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:15:19 -0400 Subject: NW6 SP1 Overlay Message-ID: I'm experiencing some weird things with the SP1 overlay CD. I setup a server for pre-migration with the CD and discovered the DS version is 8.5.0 when it should be 8.5.2, I ran the SP1 on the server and it did bring it up to the correct version. Joe D., I see why you recommend avoiding the overlay CD. Anyone else experiencing this? John From larry_burd at COMPUSERVE.COM Fri Jul 19 14:16:53 2002 From: larry_burd at COMPUSERVE.COM (Larry Burd) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:16:53 -0400 Subject: xp pro inital slowness Message-ID: <200207190916_MC3-1-70C-6D6F@compuserve.com> new xp pro w/s, gobs of memory, fastest processor available. NW client 4.83 with nt483pt2 & b3nc483sp1. the first time I click on "my computer", there is a 10 second delay before it opens. every time after that it opens immediately. before installing the SP1, I deleted those 3 DLL files so the client wouldn't be tree searching, and that didn't seem to help performance too much, although it may have booted a tad faster. The SP1 reinstalled 1 of the DLL files, and I've since deleted it. But I still get that inital 10 sec delay when opening my computer. I'm finished building the w/s, but I know when I plop it on the guys desk, he'll be bitching and moaning it's slower than the win98 w/s that I'm removing. I did some off the things @ithowtoo, but what is with these NT clients that make them soooo slow??? THis is IPX only installed on the client. IP is installed for IE, but not on the NW client. thx Larry Burd From Alar at MTK.UT.EE Fri Jul 19 14:41:22 2002 From: Alar at MTK.UT.EE (Alar Pandis) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:41:22 -0400 Subject: Unauthorized computers reaching internet - how can I avoidthatbehind BM firewall? Message-ID: Hi! Bad thing is that we don't use proxy authentication. Basically all students behind BM can access outside world and this is correct. But this will be happen from our installed computers. There is anything legal and authentication is also needed to access station. We don't want to allow access outside world from unauthorized stations. Even they use correct password etc. Well, mostly our students don't have their own computers, but we need to start thinking about possibility to use them own computers when they do have. But first we need to know what computer and from where. What we need is to filter by MAC-address. Somehow. How? More thanks, Alar. On Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:24:52 +0100, Tim Heywood wrote: >If you have set the BM server to allow only HTTP traffic etc. to go out >through the proxy, then you have the ability to control USERs access to >the net. BM 's access control is user based not IP number based. So >unless the student has stolen your login and password, they are not >going anywhere. > >You can also set up filters that allow certain IP numbers (your >workstation?) to bypass the proxy... > >Tim > >************************* >Tim Heywood >Scotland >(God's Country) >************************* > >>>> Alar at MTK.UT.EE 07/19/02 08:35am >>> > >From: Alar at MTK.UT.EE >Sent: Friday, 19 July, 2002 08:35 >To: >Subject: Re: Unauthorized computers reaching internet - how can I >avoidthatbehind BM firewall? >Priority: Normal > >Hi and thanks! >This does not prevent using unauthorized computers, does it? All >computers >behind BM need to be managed and known. Well, also we do have here >coming >people (students) from other faculties etc. who does not have here >username >etc. They may reach internet when they register computers here. But >when >they don't they can also, but I want to prevent this last. >More thanks, >Alar. > >On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:12:01 -0500, Mike DeWitt > >wrote: > >>Enable authentication on your BM box. >> >>Mike >> >>>>> Alar at MTK.UT.EE 07/18/02 13:19 PM >>> >>Hi! >>NW51SP3a. BorderManager 3.6. FireWall and NAT configured. Students >>(coming with own laptops). >>How can I avoid that unauthorized computers can reach outside world >>(internet) through our FireWall? I mean, I share IP-addresses with >DHCP >>(there is permanent and dynamically assigned addresses). I have >>filtering rules based on IP address on BM box. When some student is >>coming and plugs in computer (in place of computerroom computer) then >>computer will provided with dynamic IP-address (or student will >assign >>IP-addres by himself manually) and voila - there is internet. Well, I >>can use switch security (I do), but some switch ports is needed to be >>for several computers using this port and I need to filter out >>unauthorized use (based on MAC-addresses; additionally to IP-based >>filters). >>Any ideas how can I do that? >>More thanks, >>Alar. >>------------------------------------------------------ >>Alar Pandis >>IT Manager >>Faculty of Economics and Business Administration >>Tartu University, Narva 4-B303, 51009 >>Tartu, ESTONIA >>tel +372 7 376 316, fax +372 7 376 312 >>e-mail Alar at mtk.ut.ee >>------------------------------------------------------ From prandal at HEREFORDSHIRE.GOV.UK Fri Jul 19 14:47:34 2002 From: prandal at HEREFORDSHIRE.GOV.UK (Randal, Phil) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:47:34 -0400 Subject: xp pro inital slowness Message-ID: <0EBC45FCABFC95428EBFC3A51B368C9543D3@jessica.herefordshire.gov.uk> Does any of the tips here help? http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/nds/features/tips/t_speed_browsing0_edir .html Phil --------------------------------------------- Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry Burd [mailto:larry_burd at COMPUSERVE.COM] > Sent: 19 July 2002 14:16 > To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU > Subject: xp pro inital slowness > > > new xp pro w/s, gobs of memory, fastest processor available. > > NW client 4.83 > with nt483pt2 & b3nc483sp1. > > the first time I click on "my computer", there is a 10 second > delay before > it opens. every time after that it opens immediately. > > before installing the SP1, I deleted those 3 DLL files so the client > wouldn't be tree searching, and that didn't seem to help > performance too > much, although it may have booted a tad faster. The SP1 > reinstalled 1 of > the DLL files, and I've since deleted it. But I still get > that inital 10 > sec delay when opening my computer. > > I'm finished building the w/s, but I know when I plop it on > the guys desk, > he'll be bitching and moaning it's slower than the win98 w/s that I'm > removing. I did some off the things @ithowtoo, but what is > with these NT > clients that make them soooo slow??? THis is IPX only > installed on the > client. IP is installed for IE, but not on the NW client. > > thx > Larry Burd > From JRD at CC.USU.EDU Fri Jul 19 14:53:24 2002 From: JRD at CC.USU.EDU (Joe Doupnik) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:53:24 -0400 Subject: NW6 SP1 Overlay Message-ID: <01KK9SDXR4DUADCO1Q@cc.usu.edu> >I'm experiencing some weird things with the SP1 overlay CD. I setup a >server for pre-migration with the CD and discovered the DS version is 8.5.0 >when it should be 8.5.2, I ran the SP1 on the server and it did bring it up >to the correct version. > >Joe D., I see why you recommend avoiding the overlay CD. Anyone else >experiencing this? >John --------- For the simple reason that overlay editions receive very little inspection and testing before being released. Slipups do occur, as for example in NW 5.1, and finding the cause can be difficult. Joe D. From Mattias.Widman at ESV.SE Fri Jul 19 14:54:17 2002 From: Mattias.Widman at ESV.SE (Mattias Widman) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:54:17 -0400 Subject: Ang: Re: Unauthorized computers reaching internet - how can Iavoidthatbehind BM firewall? Message-ID: You can do this with permanent DHCP addresses. Haven't done it myself, so don't ask how :). In short, you assign a specific IP address to a specific MAC address. Search the KB and you'll probably find documents about it. -- Mattias >>> Alar at MTK.UT.EE 2002-07-19 15:41:22 >>> Hi! Bad thing is that we don't use proxy authentication. Basically all students behind BM can access outside world and this is correct. But this will be happen from our installed computers. There is anything legal and authentication is also needed to access station. We don't want to allow access outside world from unauthorized stations. Even they use correct password etc. Well, mostly our students don't have their own computers, but we need to start thinking about possibility to use them own computers when they do have. But first we need to know what computer and from where. What we need is to filter by MAC-address. Somehow. How? More thanks, Alar. On Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:24:52 +0100, Tim Heywood wrote: >If you have set the BM server to allow only HTTP traffic etc. to go out >through the proxy, then you have the ability to control USERs access to >the net. BM 's access control is user based not IP number based. So >unless the student has stolen your login and password, they are not >going anywhere. > >You can also set up filters that allow certain IP numbers (your >workstation?) to bypass the proxy... > >Tim > >************************* >Tim Heywood >Scotland >(God's Country) >************************* > >>>> Alar at MTK.UT.EE 07/19/02 08:35am >>> > >From: Alar at MTK.UT.EE >Sent: Friday, 19 July, 2002 08:35 >To: >Subject: Re: Unauthorized computers reaching internet - how can I >avoidthatbehind BM firewall? >Priority: Normal > >Hi and thanks! >This does not prevent using unauthorized computers, does it? All >computers >behind BM need to be managed and known. Well, also we do have here >coming >people (students) from other faculties etc. who does not have here >username >etc. They may reach internet when they register computers here. But >when >they don't they can also, but I want to prevent this last. >More thanks, >Alar. > >On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:12:01 -0500, Mike DeWitt > >wrote: > >>Enable authentication on your BM box. >> >>Mike >> >>>>> Alar at MTK.UT.EE 07/18/02 13:19 PM >>> >>Hi! >>NW51SP3a. BorderManager 3.6. FireWall and NAT configured. Students >>(coming with own laptops). >>How can I avoid that unauthorized computers can reach outside world >>(internet) through our FireWall? I mean, I share IP-addresses with >DHCP >>(there is permanent and dynamically assigned addresses). I have >>filtering rules based on IP address on BM box. When some student is >>coming and plugs in computer (in place of computerroom computer) then >>computer will provided with dynamic IP-address (or student will >assign >>IP-addres by himself manually) and voila - there is internet. Well, I >>can use switch security (I do), but some switch ports is needed to be >>for several computers using this port and I need to filter out >>unauthorized use (based on MAC-addresses; additionally to IP-based >>filters). >>Any ideas how can I do that? >>More thanks, >>Alar. >>------------------------------------------------------ >>Alar Pandis >>IT Manager >>Faculty of Economics and Business Administration >>Tartu University, Narva 4-B303, 51009 >>Tartu, ESTONIA >>tel +372 7 376 316, fax +372 7 376 312 >>e-mail Alar at mtk.ut.ee >>------------------------------------------------------ From PCatelinet at CGSH.COM Fri Jul 19 15:15:01 2002 From: PCatelinet at CGSH.COM (Phil Catelinet) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 10:15:01 -0400 Subject: xp pro inital slowness Message-ID: What's the hardware? I saw the same behavior on an IBM T22 ThinkPad laptop with 256 MB RAM and a 1 GHz processor, so I reinstalled Win2K, thinking that the NW client for XP wasn't prime-time ready. I'm running XP Pro on an IBM NetVista desktop with the 4.83 client and I don't see these problems, so I'm wondering if it's hardware-related, like desktop vs. laptop or some other weirdness. Phil __________________________________________________ Philip E. Catelinet Senior Network Analyst Cleary, Gottlieb, Steen & Hamilton One Liberty Plaza New York, NY 10006 (212) 225-3201 (office) (917) 545-9313 (mobile) pcatelinet at cgsh.com "Larry Burd" Sent by: "Novell LAN Interest Group" 07/19/2002 09:16 AM Please respond to "Novell LAN Interest Group" To: NOVELL at LSV.SYR.EDU cc: (bcc: Phil Catelinet/NY/Cgsh) Subject: xp pro inital slowness new xp pro w/s, gobs of memory, fastest processor available. NW client 4.83 with nt483pt2 & b3nc483sp1. the first time I click on "my computer", there is a 10 second delay before it opens. every time after that it opens immediately. before installing the SP1, I deleted those 3 DLL files so the client wouldn't be tree searching, and that didn't seem to help performance too much, although it may have booted a tad faster. The SP1 reinstalled 1 of the DLL files, and I've since deleted it. But I still get that inital 10 sec delay when opening my computer. I'm finished building the w/s, but I know when I plop it on the guys desk, he'll be bitching and moaning it's slower than the win98 w/s that I'm removing. I did some off the things @ithowtoo, but what is with these NT clients that make them soooo slow??? THis is IPX only installed on the client. IP is installed for IE, but not on the NW client. thx Larry Burd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://netlab1.usu.edu/pipermail/novell/attachments/20020719/8767311c/attachment.html From lindblom at MICO.COM Fri Jul 19 15:16:40 2002 From: lindblom at MICO.COM (lindblom at MICO.COM) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 10:16:40 -0400 Subject: NW6 SP1 Overlay Message-ID: I meant to say 8.6.0 and 8.6.2. Joe Doupnik cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: NW6 SP1 Overlay Novell LAN Interest Group 07/19/2002 09:53 AM Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group >I'm experiencing some weird things with the SP1 overlay CD. I setup a >server for pre-migration with the CD and discovered the DS version is 8.5.0 >when it should be 8.5.2, I ran the SP1 on the server and it did bring it up >to the correct version. > >Joe D., I see why you recommend avoiding the overlay CD. Anyone else >experiencing this? >John --------- For the simple reason that overlay editions receive very little inspection and testing before being released. Slipups do occur, as for example in NW 5.1, and finding the cause can be difficult. Joe D. From kmwade at GENDATASYS.COM Fri Jul 19 18:06:40 2002 From: kmwade at GENDATASYS.COM (Kevin Wade) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 13:06:40 -0400 Subject: utility find hidden and delete In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3D3800C3.13415.F2A3779@localhost> XXCopy will do it. (xxcopy.com) I'm not sure if it will delete (the parameter list is formidable) but you can move to a temporary folder and delete that. Kevin Wade -------- Original Message: > Anyone have a ready made utility that can find and delete hidden files > created before a specified date? > > > ----------------------------------------- > Joe Acquisto > SUNY New Paltz > 845-257-3134 (V) > 845-257-6900 (F) > --------------------------------------------------- > "Those who would give up essential > liberty to purchase a little temporary > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." > > Benjamin Franklin, 1755 > --------------------------------------------------- From ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU Fri Jul 19 18:26:28 2002 From: ACQUISTJ at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU (Joe Acquisto) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 13:26:28 -0400 Subject: Way OT - Message-ID: OK, the bait needs freshening. What a tuff crowd. Yes, I know this is "basic theory". I could post on alt-elect-NEC-heretic.blah, but what fun would that be? Given the following : Typical building/home mains (US anyway) 240 VAC split. Look at it as a 240 VAC center tapped transformer. Each "end" supplies one side of a 120VAC load, the center tap is the common "return" Assuming perfectly equal load on each leg, and equal impedance in each of the supply leads (and xformer windings, etc). Let us assume resistive loads only, for the moment and some finite measurable resistance in each of the three "leads". Do you agree that: 1 -There is actually "zero" current in that common return line? 2 - The net power power dissipation in that common return is Zero? joea/ ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin, 1755 --------------------------------------------------- >>> acquistj at LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU 07/18/02 08:17PM >>> >>>> G.Ross at CCW.GOV.UK 07/18/02 17:16 PM >>> >I'm sure you could argue that a discussion on clean >>power is a valid >discussion for network admins. We've all got our own >horror stories >about strange things happening with dirty power. > I could do. But, I gotta confess, this is motivated by a mostly personal "homeland" issue. There is a bit written about how such ciruits lead to harmonics, surges, and voltage sags. All of which can disrupt our sensitive charges (no pun intended). joea/ PS. Sorry I don't know how to spell inherently. > >GTG From JRD at CC.USU.EDU Fri Jul 19 18:42:43 2002 From: JRD at CC.USU.EDU (Joe Doupnik) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 13:42:43 -0400 Subject: Way OT - Message-ID: <01KKA0BEG0VMADCOAY@cc.usu.edu> >OK, the bait needs freshening. What a tuff crowd. Yes, I know this is >"basic theory". I could post on alt-elect-NEC-heretic.blah, but what >fun would that be? > >Given the following : Typical building/home mains (US anyway) 240 VAC >split. Look at it as a 240 VAC center tapped transformer. Each "end" >supplies one side of a 120VAC load, the center tap is the common >"return" > >Assuming perfectly equal load on each leg, and equal impedance in each >of the supply leads (and xformer windings, etc). Let us assume >resistive loads only, for the moment and some finite measurable >resistance in each of the three "leads". > >Do you agree that: > >1 -There is actually "zero" current in that common return line? > >2 - The net power power dissipation in that common return is Zero? > >joea/ --------- I don't know why this question is posed, here or elsewhere. A center tapped supply with a center tapped resistive load can have the center tap removed with no effect. Ohm's Law prevails. As you suggest, taking the concern to an appropriate discussion group would be a good idea. Joe D. From mark.johnston at ORANGE.NET Fri Jul 19 18:55:06 2002 From: mark.johnston at ORANGE.NET (Mark Johnston) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 13:55:06 -0400 Subject: SYS:PUBLIC Message-ID: <4e4de4ae76.4ae764e4de@orange.net> Win2k kinda supports su by spawning "cmd" using "Run As". Everything run subsequently from that command prompt will run in the priviledged environment, then close the command prompt to clear. Unfortunately, that has no access to NetWare environments, but I guess we can't have everything! Mark. ----- Original Message ----- from "Leone, Michael" date Fri, 19 Jul 2002 08:27:00 -0400 to subject Re: SYS:PUBLIC > Granted, it's often so much of a pain to try to do useful work without > admin priviledges, and wind up switching back and forth, most > don't bother. > The Unix "su" command (emulated by Microsoft's "run as") works well for > this. Pity. I thought "run as" was equivalent to "sudo" - IOW, run just this ONE command as the admin user. "su" is different, in that everything you do from that point on is as the admin user, until you exit the su command. But you're right - at home on my Linux box, I do things as a normal user, and sudo (or su, when I have a sequence of command s I need to do) as needed. But I can't su in Win2K, so my NW acct is admin- equivalent. From Rob.Anderson at AMERICANSOUTHWEST.COM Fri Jul 19 18:56:01 2002 From: Rob.Anderson at AMERICANSOUTHWEST.COM (Rob Anderson) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 13:56:01 -0400 Subject: Unauthorized computers reaching internet - how can I avoidthatbehind BM firewall? Message-ID: Well, you could do what we did, is enable the bordermanager proxy on the workstations, and using DHCP forced a gateway that didn't have a path to the internet. That worked great, but admittedly a little wierd. Rob >>> Alar at MTK.UT.EE 07/19/02 02:35AM >>> Hi and thanks! This does not prevent using unauthorized computers, does it? All computers behind BM need to be managed and known. Well, also we do have here coming people (students) from other faculties etc. who does not have here username etc. They may reach internet when they register computers here. But when they don't they can also, but I want to prevent this last. More thanks, Alar. On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:12:01 -0500, Mike DeWitt wrote: >Enable authentication on your BM box. > >Mike > >>>> Alar at MTK.UT.EE 07/18/02 13:19 PM >>> >Hi! >NW51SP3a. BorderManager 3.6. FireWall and NAT configured. Students >(coming with own laptops). >How can I avoid that unauthorized computers can reach outside world >(internet) through our FireWall? I mean, I share IP-addresses with DHCP >(there is permanent and dynamically assigned addresses). I have >filtering rules based on IP address on BM box. When some student is >coming and plugs in computer (in place of computerroom computer) then >computer will provided with dynamic IP-address (or student will assign >IP-addres by himself manually) and voila - there is internet. Well, I >can use switch security (I do), but some switch ports is needed to be >for several computers using this port and I need to filter out >unauthorized use (based on MAC-addresses; additionally to IP-based >filters). >Any ideas how can I do that? >More thanks, >Alar. >------------------------------------------------------ >Alar Pandis >IT Manager >Faculty of Economics and Business Administration >Tartu University, Narva 4-B303, 51009 >Tartu, ESTONIA >tel +372 7 376 316, fax +372 7 376 312 >e-mail Alar at mtk.ut.ee >------------------------------------------------------ From mark.johnston at ORANGE.NET Fri Jul 19 18:58:42 2002 From: mark.johnston at ORANGE.NET (Mark Johnston) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 13:58:42 -0400 Subject: Unauthorized computers reaching internet - how can Iavoidthatbehind BM firewall? Message-ID: <4d2954b07a.4b07a4d295@orange.net> That doesn't offer security though as a user could easily guess a valid IP address and use that. What about having the public machines on a specific network and implement access control lists on the router to only allow MAC addresses through that you know. Mark. ----- Original Message ----- from Mattias Widman date Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:53:50 +0200 to subject Ang: Re: Unauthorized computers reaching internet - how can Iavoidthatbehind BM firewall? You can do this with permanent DHCP addresses. Haven't done it myself, so don't ask how :). In short, you assign a specific IP address to a specific MAC address. Search the KB and you'll probably find documents about it. -- Mattias >>> Alar at MTK.UT.EE 2002-07-19 15:41:22 >>> Hi! Bad thing is that we don't use proxy authentication. Basically all students behind BM can access outside world and this is correct. But this will be happen from our installed computers. There is anything legal and authentication is also needed to access station. We don't want to allow access outside world from unauthorized stations. Even they use correct password etc. Well, mostly our students don't have their own computers, but we need to start thinking about possibility to use them own computers when they do have. But first we need to know what computer and from where. What we need is to filter by MAC-address. Somehow. How? More thanks, Alar. On Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:24:52 +0100, Tim Heywood wrote: >If you have set the BM server to allow only HTTP traffic etc. to go out >through the proxy, then you have the ability to control USERs access to >the net. BM 's access control is user based not IP number based. So >unless the student has stolen your login and password, they are not >going anywhere. > >You can also set up filters that allow certain IP numbers (your >workstation?) to bypass the proxy... > >Tim > >************************* >Tim Heywood >Scotland >(God's Country) >************************* > >>>> Alar at MTK.UT.EE 07/19/02 08:35am >>> > >From: Alar at MTK.UT.EE >Sent: Friday, 19 July, 2002 08:35 >To: >Subject: Re: Unauthorized computers reaching internet - how can I >avoidthatbehind BM firewall? >Priority: Normal > >Hi and thanks! >This does not prevent using unauthorized computers, does it? All >computers >behind BM need to be managed and known. Well, also we do have here >coming >people (students) from other faculties etc. who does not have here >username >etc. They may reach internet when they register computers here. But >when >they don't they can also, but I want to prevent this last. >More thanks, >Alar. > >On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:12:01 -0500, Mike DeWitt > >wrote: > >>Enable authentication on your BM box. >> >>Mike >> >>>>> Alar at MTK.UT.EE 07/18/02 13:19 PM >>> >>Hi! >>NW51SP3a. BorderManager 3.6. FireWall and NAT configured. Students >>(coming with own laptops). >>How can I avoid that unauthorized computers can reach outside world >>(internet) through our FireWall? I mean, I share IP-addresses with >DHCP >>(there is permanent and dynamically assigned addresses). I have >>filtering rules based on IP address on BM box. When some student is >>coming and plugs in computer (in place of computerroom computer) then >>computer will provided with dynamic IP-address (or student will >assign >>IP-addres by himself manually) and voila - there is internet. Well, I >>can use switch security (I do), but some switch ports is needed to be >>for several computers using this port and I need to filter out >>unauthorized use (based on MAC-addresses; additionally to IP-based >>filters). >>Any ideas how can I do that? >>More thanks, >>Alar. >>------------------------------------------------------ >>Alar Pandis >>IT Manager >>Faculty of Economics and Business Administration >>Tartu University, Narva 4-B303, 51009 >>Tartu, ESTONIA >>tel +372 7 376 316, fax +372 7 376 312 >>e-mail Alar at mtk.ut.ee >>------------------------------------------------------ From SEUFERER at ALAN.AMESLAB.GOV Fri Jul 19 19:27:56 2002 From: SEUFERER at ALAN.AMESLAB.GOV (David Seuferer) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:27:56 -0400 Subject: iChain 2.0 and Java 1.4 Message-ID: Hello, We came across this today. We tried 4 different PCs to get to the admin web page for iChain version 2.0 SP1 and 3 displayed horribly and 1 displayed correctly. The 3 bad displays had java 1.4 installed and the 1 good display had java 1.2.2. Uninstalled Java 1.4 and installed Java 1.2.2 on one of the PCs and the iChain web page displayed correctly. Is this a known issue? David Seuferer, CNE Ames Laboratory Information Systems seuferer at ameslab.gov fax: (515) 294-5638 phone: (515) 294-6053 "It comes in pints!?" Pippin From fhammond at NMSU.EDU Fri Jul 19 21:34:39 2002 From: fhammond at NMSU.EDU (Forrest Hammond) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:34:39 -0400 Subject: Mac clients on MAC OS 10 Netware 5.0 References: <200207191755.LAA02412@dns1.nmsu.edu> Message-ID: <3D3876AE.254883ED@nmsu.edu> Do any of you have a client that will allow you to attach to a Netware 5.0 server with a MAC that is using MAC OS 10 (or X, if you will) Thanks Sam From Mark.Puchalski at HONIGMAN.COM Fri Jul 19 21:48:09 2002 From: Mark.Puchalski at HONIGMAN.COM (Mark Puchalski) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:48:09 -0400 Subject: Zfd3 Import/Removal Policies not working Message-ID: Since applying SP4 to our NetWare 5.1 servers, the ZEN w/s import and removal processes have stopped running. When issuing the zenwsimp or zenwsrem commands at the server console the following errors are returned: Loading module JAVA.NLM This module is ALREADY loaded and cannot be loaded more than once. Unable to initialize threads: cannot find class java/lang/Thread JNI initialization failed java: Class com.novell.application.zenworks.autowsmanagement.wsimport.ImportWork stations exited with status 2 Loading module JAVA.NLM This module is ALREADY loaded and cannot be loaded more than once. Unable to initialize threads: cannot find class java/lang/Thread JNI initialization failed java: Class com.novell.application.zenworks.autowsmanagement.wsremoval.RemoveWor kstations exited with status 2 Java version shows as follows: JAVA.NLM (Address Space = OS) Loaded from [SYS:\JAVA\BIN\] Novell JVM Version 1.1.7B Build 01110911 Version 1.17 November 9, 2001 Copyright (c) 1998-2000 Novell, Inc. Portions Copyright (c) 1998 Sun Microsystems This is happening on the (3) servers we are running Zen on. Any ideas what's going on here? -------------------------------------------------------------- Mark A. 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If you have received this electronic message in error, please notify us immediately (1.313.465.7000) and destroy the original message and all copies. ********************************************************************* From wallewek at KMSI.NET Fri Jul 19 23:11:58 2002 From: wallewek at KMSI.NET (wallewek at KMSI.NET) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:11:58 -0400 Subject: SYS:PUBLIC In-Reply-To: <4e4de4ae76.4ae764e4de@orange.net> References: <4e4de4ae76.4ae764e4de@orange.net> Message-ID: <7e3hjucavrq6m98vet76vrqh0b9i7vehb4@4ax.com> On Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:55:04 GMT, you wrote: >Win2k kinda supports su by spawning "cmd" using "Run As". Everything >run subsequently from that command prompt will run in the priviledged >environment, then close the command prompt to clear. Here's a wierd one for you. There's one program you can, but should NOT, use "Run As" on: Windows Explorer. I did that once, after starting CMD as another user and killing the currently running Explorer. It did terrible things to my user profile, and I'll never do it again. >Unfortunately, that has no access to NetWare environments, but I guess >we can't have everything! > >Mark. /kenw Ken Wallewein Calgary, Alberta kenw at kmsi.net w