From JRD at cc.usu.edu Sat Feb 1 06:30:05 2003 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 00:30:05 -0600 (MDT) Subject: File Synchronization Message-ID: <01KRWJMZYW36AYKK8R@cc.usu.edu> > How do you set up rsync on a server? I've tried following the >instructions and I'm getting myself completely confused. > >Gary > >Tim Heywood wrote: > >>www.rsync.org has an exceedingly good peice of software that will do >>what you wish (probably) this open source progam has been ported to NW >>and can be obtained from developer.novell.com in the leading edge >>downloads (Number 188) >> >>Tim -------- Reviewing the day's mail and I'm here, chopping away at tonnes of HTML gibberish. Rsync on NW. It uses the same commands as on say Unix. Given the state of rsync docs (hard to be worse) I can understand your query. But it can be done, and in fact about 30GB of files are being rsync'd as I write this. One side is NW, the other is Unix. Clues. Rsync has peculiar syntax for source and destinations. The form of plain directory name means that's a local directory. Fine, we grasp that. The tough ones are remote directories, and there are two forms involved. One form is remotehost:foobar and the other is remotehost::foobar The first (x:y) form tries to use SSL (NetWare) or SSH or RSH (Unix). The second (x::y) form does an unencrypted untunneled rsync server to client connection on a port of our choosing (873 is the default for rsync). One side needs to play server, the other client. The server side reads its configuration file which on NW is in sys:etc. Construct a "module" (a bracket named section of what to do) in that file. Then start the server side with command line options. A simple form is rsync -v --daemon --port=873. That will do for openers. Then on the client side try rsync -v servername:: and get back a list of "modules". Really go active by saying rsync -av localsrc servername::module which ensures localsrc stuff appears on the server whereever the module stuff in the config file says to go. -a is for archive (do something) and v is for verbose. The NW side will show a menu of daemon command options if you start it with none. This should be enough to get you moving ahead. As noted the rsync.org docs are shameful. The code is obtuse so don't bother using that as a doc source. Just keep plugging away and eventually things work. Another aspect, for other readers. Rsync tries to check file contents before copying. It uses checksums over chunks of the file on each side and sends checksum values. When a mismatch occurs then just the chunks need to be sent. Time/date stamps can also be adjusted. It consumes cpu time on each side doing the checksum math, but the load is not heavy. One wants to be cautious with this program because the quality of the code leaves much to be desired. Joe D. From hbueno at optonline.net Sat Feb 1 16:23:36 2003 From: hbueno at optonline.net (HB) Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 11:23:36 -0500 Subject: Automated Shutdown In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3E3BF488.1020107@optonline.net> If you use Zenworks policies, get ncshtdwn.exe from the Coolsolutions site and create a policy to shut down the PC. Hugo Chet Durnal wrote: > Can anyone recommend software that logs out and completely shutdowns a Windows 2000 PC at a scheduled time? > > Thanks > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > From mlkollmorgan at comcast.net Sat Feb 1 18:17:48 2003 From: mlkollmorgan at comcast.net (Mike Kollmorgan) Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 13:17:48 -0500 Subject: NAL Error In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <006b01c2ca1e$3a3a63d0$7101a8c0@lcs.com> If you have internet access on those systems you might go to www.lavasoftusa.com and download Ad-Aware. This will remove any spyware they may have picked up. I have seen many applications crash due to spyware. You should also make sure they are virus free. Mike Kollmorgan Logical Computer Solutions > -----Original Message----- > From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu [mailto:novell- > bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Patrick Hasenjager > Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 3:47 PM > To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu > Subject: NAL Error > > I have 4 users that are complaining that a NALWIN32.exe error pops up > when NAL loads. All other users are fine, it is just these 4. I have > run through all the TID's on the subject. > > All workstations are running Win2000 SP3 with 4.83SP1 client. > Servers: > (2) NetWare 6 SP2 > (1) NetWare 5.1 SP5 > > We are running Zen4. > > Any suggestions? > > ----- > Patrick A. Hasenjager > Technical Support Specialist > > Frankel, Zacharia, Arnold, Nissen, Stamp & Reinsch, LLC > Main: (402) 496-9100 > Fax: (402) 496-1024 > > Direct: (402) 963-4340 > phasenjager at fzacpa.com > > ************************************************************************** > > This e-mail and any attachments are intended only for the addressee. If > you are not the addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy > this e-mail or attachments. Please immediately notify the sender if you > have received this e-mail by mistake and delete it from your system. > E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed secure or error-free as > information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late > or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender does not accept liability > for errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise or > occur during transmission. We will provide a "hard-copy" version of the > message and attachments upon request. > > Although reasonable precautions are taken to assure this e-mail is virus > free, we do not accept responsibility for the loss or damage arising from > the use of this e-mail or attachments. > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From carter at ipfw.edu Sat Feb 1 21:21:04 2003 From: carter at ipfw.edu (Jean-Paul Carter) Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 16:21:04 -0500 Subject: List what a user can see Message-ID: I found the source of the problem. The group that was giving the user the extra rights to the file servers (all file servers) was due to imanager/iprint. We needed a way for the helpdesk to delete print jobs via imanager. One suggestion was to assign them the print manager role in iManager and point them to the iManager URL. This worked fine and I don't remember anyone being able to see anything extra on the file servers before, but now in imanager I noticed (may have been there before) that manage printer is a superviory option. Thus for whatever SCOPE you set in imanager, the users /groups get S for that scope and if you have S then your effective rights are BCDRS. If this is correct, how in the heck can you allow people to use imanager to delete print jobs from iprint printers ? Below is a dump from JRB ndsrghts.exe , printtechs.groups. is the group that has the ability to delete iprint jobs via imanger role, user1_user: is a volume in O=IPFW Object's rights to USER1_USER.. Rights for printtechs.groups.. -------------------------------------------------------------------- [Root] Inherited Rights filter [BCDRS ] Inherited from above [ ] Equivalence to [Public] [B ] Effective rights [B ] -------------------------------------------------------------------- IPFW... Inherited Rights filter [BCDRS ] Inherited from above [B ] printtechs.groups.. [ S ] Effective rights [BCDRS ] -------------------------------------------------------------------- USER1_USER.. Inherited Rights filter [BCDRS ] Inherited from above [BCDRS ] Effective rights [BCDRS ] 1 object John Carter Senior Network Systems Programmer ITServices Indiana Purdue University Ft. Wayne 2101 Coliseum Blvd Ft. Wayne IN 46805 260 481-5473 260 481-4152 fax carter at ipfw.edu From phasenjager at fzacpa.com Sun Feb 2 00:51:38 2003 From: phasenjager at fzacpa.com (Patrick Hasenjager) Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 18:51:38 -0600 Subject: NAL Error Message-ID: 2 of the computers are brand new, just installed last week. I have looked for frivolous applications, but none existed. I also ran a virus scan on all machines. When the error comes up, they can open no applications until they log out and log back in. Pat. Patrick Hasenjager Technical Support Specialist Frankel, Zacharia, Arnold, Nissen, Stamp & Reinsch, LLC Main: (402) 496-9100 Desk: (402) 963-4340 Fax: (402) 496-1024 phasenjager at fzacpa.com >>> mlkollmorgan at comcast.net 02/01/03 12:16 PM >>> If you have internet access on those systems you might go to www.lavasoftusa.com and download Ad-Aware. This will remove any spyware they may have picked up. I have seen many applications crash due to spyware. You should also make sure they are virus free. Mike Kollmorgan Logical Computer Solutions > -----Original Message----- > From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu [mailto:novell- > bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Patrick Hasenjager > Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 3:47 PM > To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu > Subject: NAL Error > > I have 4 users that are complaining that a NALWIN32.exe error pops up > when NAL loads. All other users are fine, it is just these 4. I have > run through all the TID's on the subject. > > All workstations are running Win2000 SP3 with 4.83SP1 client. > Servers: > (2) NetWare 6 SP2 > (1) NetWare 5.1 SP5 > > We are running Zen4. > > Any suggestions? > > ----- > Patrick A. Hasenjager > Technical Support Specialist > > Frankel, Zacharia, Arnold, Nissen, Stamp & Reinsch, LLC > Main: (402) 496-9100 > Fax: (402) 496-1024 > > Direct: (402) 963-4340 > phasenjager at fzacpa.com > > ************************************************************************** > > This e-mail and any attachments are intended only for the addressee. If > you are not the addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy > this e-mail or attachments. Please immediately notify the sender if you > have received this e-mail by mistake and delete it from your system. > E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed secure or error-free as > information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late > or incomplete, or contain viruses. 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Please immediately notify the sender if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete it from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender does not accept liability for errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise or occur during transmission. We will provide a "hard-copy" version of the message and attachments upon request. Although reasonable precautions are taken to assure this e-mail is virus free, we do not accept responsibility for the loss or damage arising from the use of this e-mail or attachments. From hartd at cwu.EDU Sun Feb 2 04:11:43 2003 From: hartd at cwu.EDU (David Hart) Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 20:11:43 -0800 Subject: List what a user can see Message-ID: We ran into the same problem last week when granting helpdesk staff remote printer management rights. Fortunately one of the staff members was conscientious enough to point out the problem. Needless to say we revoked the imanager rights. David Hart Central Washington University >>> carter at ipfw.edu 02/01/03 01:21PM >>> I found the source of the problem. The group that was giving the user the extra rights to the file servers (all file servers) was due to imanager/iprint. From Alan at torahaura.com Sun Feb 2 21:19:23 2003 From: Alan at torahaura.com (Alan Rowe) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 13:19:23 -0800 Subject: Border Manager 3.7 Message-ID: Trying to set up the Client to site VPN on a 6.02 server. I can login in and connect to the Border Manager server. What I cannot do is connect to any other server that is on the private network. These servers sit behind the border manager server which runs Nat and they have private 198.168 ip addresss. Nat Static and Dynamic are turned on and all filters or off for testing. I think the problem is in IP routing as I am unable to ping any of the servers from the client, the message returned is host unreachable. Can anyone help? From rgaspar at patlq.com Sun Feb 2 21:58:27 2003 From: rgaspar at patlq.com (Roland Gaspar) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 16:58:27 -0500 Subject: Border Manager 3.7 Message-ID: you mean private 192.168 right? 198.168 is routable, and it it's the case, then that might be your problem. ________________________ Roland Gaspar Tel.: (514) 398-7880 xt 8603 ICQ # 1355591 www.roland-gaspar.com/~roland >>> Alan at torahaura.com 02/02/03 04:19PM >>> Trying to set up the Client to site VPN on a 6.02 server. I can login in and connect to the Border Manager server. What I cannot do is connect to any other server that is on the private network. These servers sit behind the border manager server which runs Nat and they have private 198.168 ip addresss. Nat Static and Dynamic are turned on and all filters or off for testing. I think the problem is in IP routing as I am unable to ping any of the servers from the client, the message returned is host unreachable. Can anyone help? _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From Alan at torahaura.com Sun Feb 2 22:33:29 2003 From: Alan at torahaura.com (Alan Rowe) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 14:33:29 -0800 Subject: Border Manager 3.7 Message-ID: Correct I ment 192.168.. >>> rgaspar at patlq.com 02/02/03 01:58PM >>> From: rgaspar at patlq.com Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 1:58 PM To: Subject: Re: Border Manager 3.7 Priority: Normal you mean private 192.168 right? 198.168 is routable, and it it's the case, then that might be your problem. ________________________ Roland Gaspar Tel.: (514) 398-7880 xt 8603 ICQ # 1355591 www.roland-gaspar.com/~roland >>> Alan at torahaura.com 02/02/03 04:19PM >>> Trying to set up the Client to site VPN on a 6.02 server. I can login in and connect to the Border Manager server. What I cannot do is connect to any other server that is on the private network. These servers sit behind the border manager server which runs Nat and they have private 198.168 ip addresss. Nat Static and Dynamic are turned on and all filters or off for testing. I think the problem is in IP routing as I am unable to ping any of the servers from the client, the message returned is host unreachable. Can anyone help? _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From carter at ipfw.edu Mon Feb 3 00:19:30 2003 From: carter at ipfw.edu (Jean-Paul Carter) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 19:19:30 -0500 Subject: List what a user can see Message-ID: So are how are you having your helpdesk kill print jobs or are they not able to now ? Based on this info, seems like all printers would need to be in a special ou so that you can grant the scope "safely" >>> hartd at cwu.EDU 02/01/03 11:11PM >>> We ran into the same problem last week when granting helpdesk staff remote printer management rights. Fortunately one of the staff members was conscientious enough to point out the problem. Needless to say we revoked the imanager rights. David Hart Central Washington University >>> carter at ipfw.edu 02/01/03 01:21PM >>> I found the source of the problem. The group that was giving the user the extra rights to the file servers (all file servers) was due to imanager/iprint. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From fredpile at tafe.sa.edu.au Mon Feb 3 05:15:41 2003 From: fredpile at tafe.sa.edu.au (Fred Pile) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 15:15:41 +1000 Subject: Shared folder rights Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20030203151541.017c2d40@143.92.27.77> OK, this is a long question that probably has a simple yes or no answer! Our user objects are put into specific departmental containers, and each container has full [RWCEMF] rights to the matching departmental shared folder, the contents of which are managed by that department (unless they are abusing the space to the detriment of other users of that volume!). VOL: + SHARE + DEPT1 + DEPT2 + DEPT3 Of course there are some users that work for more than one department, so they are assigned rights to the shared folders for their "extra" departments as required, therefore for consistency we map a drive letter that is common for all users to the "SHARE" folder, rather than the departmental specific "DEPT1" etc. folder. The problem we have seen of late is that with the "M" right users have been changing the name of their "DEPT1" share folder without asking us (IT), but if we remove M to prevent this, then this affects their ability to manage the contents of the folder. Is there any combination of rights and masks that will allow share users to manage the contents of a shared folder without being able modify the root, ie. they can't rename, move, delete, etc. the "DEPT1" folder, but have full control over all of the contents therein). We've tried a few combinations, but based on what I know about FS rights, I don't know if what we want can be achieved. Any help is appreciated! Thanks, Fred. From gordon.christie at centrelink.gov.au Mon Feb 3 05:13:16 2003 From: gordon.christie at centrelink.gov.au (gordon.christie at centrelink.gov.au) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 16:13:16 +1100 Subject: Shared folder rights Message-ID: Set the Rename Inhibit and Delete Inhibit flags for the DEPT1, DEPT, etc directories using the FLAG utility. This will stop them if they don't know how to remove the flags, it will also mean that it is a deliberate act of rename if they do, so you just have to let them know that they should not be changing the name. Gordon Christie Centrelink Australia. Fred Pile cc: Sent by: Subject: Shared folder rights novell-bounces at netl ab1.usu.edu 03/02/2003 16:15 Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group OK, this is a long question that probably has a simple yes or no answer! Our user objects are put into specific departmental containers, and each container has full [RWCEMF] rights to the matching departmental shared folder, the contents of which are managed by that department (unless they are abusing the space to the detriment of other users of that volume!). VOL: + SHARE + DEPT1 + DEPT2 + DEPT3 Of course there are some users that work for more than one department, so they are assigned rights to the shared folders for their "extra" departments as required, therefore for consistency we map a drive letter that is common for all users to the "SHARE" folder, rather than the departmental specific "DEPT1" etc. folder. The problem we have seen of late is that with the "M" right users have been changing the name of their "DEPT1" share folder without asking us (IT), but if we remove M to prevent this, then this affects their ability to manage the contents of the folder. Is there any combination of rights and masks that will allow share users to manage the contents of a shared folder without being able modify the root, ie. they can't rename, move, delete, etc. the "DEPT1" folder, but have full control over all of the contents therein). We've tried a few combinations, but based on what I know about FS rights, I don't know if what we want can be achieved. Any help is appreciated! Thanks, Fred. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell Important: This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is confidential, commercially valuable or subject to legal or parliamentary privilege. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that any review, re-transmission, disclosure, use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited by several Commonwealth Acts of Parliament. If you have received this communication in error please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this transmission together with any attachments. From acquistj at lan.newpaltz.edu Mon Feb 3 12:18:07 2003 From: acquistj at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 07:18:07 -0500 Subject: Shared folder rights Message-ID: "Rename Inhibit" might do. ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- Remember: once, everyone "Knew" the world was flat. --------------------------------------------------- >>> fredpile at tafe.sa.edu.au 02/02/03 23:48 PM >>> OK, this is a long question that probably has a simple yes or no answer! Our user objects are put into specific departmental containers, and each container has full [RWCEMF] rights to the matching departmental shared folder, the contents of which are managed by that department (unless they are abusing the space to the detriment of other users of that volume!). VOL: + SHARE + DEPT1 + DEPT2 + DEPT3 Of course there are some users that work for more than one department, so they are assigned rights to the shared folders for their "extra" departments as required, therefore for consistency we map a drive letter that is common for all users to the "SHARE" folder, rather than the departmental specific "DEPT1" etc. folder. The problem we have seen of late is that with the "M" right users have been changing the name of their "DEPT1" share folder without asking us (IT), but if we remove M to prevent this, then this affects their ability to manage the contents of the folder. Is there any combination of rights and masks that will allow share users to manage the contents of a shared folder without being able modify the root, ie. they can't rename, move, delete, etc. the "DEPT1" folder, but have full control over all of the contents therein). We've tried a few combinations, but based on what I know about FS rights, I don't know if what we want can be achieved. Any help is appreciated! Thanks, Fred. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From skiphefel at advanced-data.com Mon Feb 3 12:35:42 2003 From: skiphefel at advanced-data.com (Skip Hefel) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 06:35:42 -0600 Subject: Shared folder rights Message-ID: <2C2609144800D611A50A006008F61227018113B0@AXIAL.advanced-data.com> Select Properties of folder and check Delete Inhibit and Rename Inhibit -----Original Message----- From: Fred Pile [mailto:fredpile at tafe.sa.edu.au] Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 11:16 PM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: Shared folder rights OK, this is a long question that probably has a simple yes or no answer! Our user objects are put into specific departmental containers, and each container has full [RWCEMF] rights to the matching departmental shared folder, the contents of which are managed by that department (unless they are abusing the space to the detriment of other users of that volume!). VOL: + SHARE + DEPT1 + DEPT2 + DEPT3 Of course there are some users that work for more than one department, so they are assigned rights to the shared folders for their "extra" departments as required, therefore for consistency we map a drive letter that is common for all users to the "SHARE" folder, rather than the departmental specific "DEPT1" etc. folder. The problem we have seen of late is that with the "M" right users have been changing the name of their "DEPT1" share folder without asking us (IT), but if we remove M to prevent this, then this affects their ability to manage the contents of the folder. Is there any combination of rights and masks that will allow share users to manage the contents of a shared folder without being able modify the root, ie. they can't rename, move, delete, etc. the "DEPT1" folder, but have full control over all of the contents therein). We've tried a few combinations, but based on what I know about FS rights, I don't know if what we want can be achieved. Any help is appreciated! Thanks, Fred. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From msmith at col-westanglia.ac.uk Mon Feb 3 14:58:35 2003 From: msmith at col-westanglia.ac.uk (Martyn Smith) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 14:58:35 -0000 Subject: Server monitoring, specifically SNMP? In-Reply-To: <20030131190008.E4E04ADCF@netlab1.usu.edu> Message-ID: <000201c2cb94$ba3ea060$8d0010ac@martyn2> We're using one called Whats Up Gold from IPSwitch - see some v.nice features with pagers and messaging some rather smart monitoring of websites, we use it to make sure some of the database driven ones we use are up by specifying a response file - can also be used for change control. Otherwise pretty bog standard SNMP and RMON monitoring inc performance if you have the right MIBs , pretty web interface though... Martyn From dmoon at peru.k12.in.us Mon Feb 3 19:08:16 2003 From: dmoon at peru.k12.in.us (Dave Moon) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 14:08:16 -0500 Subject: Novell Web Site. Message-ID: Anyone have problems with Novell's website. We keep getting LInk broken. Dave Dave Moon Peru Community Schools 401 N. Broadway Peru, IN 46970 765-473-3081 fax 765-472-5156 From markperl at earthlink.net Mon Feb 3 19:16:54 2003 From: markperl at earthlink.net (Mark Perlstein) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 11:16:54 -0800 Subject: Novell Web Site. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20030203111637.009e8100@mail.earthlink.net> I got to http://support.novell.com/ just fine. At 02:08 PM 2/3/03 -0500, you wrote: >Anyone have problems with Novell's website. We keep getting LInk broken. > >Dave > > > >Dave Moon >Peru Community Schools >401 N. Broadway >Peru, IN 46970 >765-473-3081 >fax 765-472-5156 > > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From clyndes at mail.bsdvt.org Mon Feb 3 20:14:04 2003 From: clyndes at mail.bsdvt.org (Craig Lyndes) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 15:14:04 -0500 Subject: Best way to go from DS 7 to DS 8? Message-ID: Dear Folks, I have been preparing to go from DS 7 to DS 8. I have patched our 4.11, 5.0 and 5.1 servers to the latest version. Done the DS health stuff, moved master replicas to 5.1 machines, all that remains is to get a few replacement JetDirect boxes in place. My immediate goal is to upgrade to BorderManager 3.7. My secondary goal is to create two new, large centralized servers to replace the 9 existing NetWare 4.11 servers, leaving only NW 5.1 and NW 6 servers. At this point I have 2 options to do the actual upgrade. I can upgrade the DS on an existing NW 5.1 server, or I can install a new NW 6 server in the tree. Which is best? Is there another way that is even better? Are there any pitfalls I have missed? TIA Craig Lyndes Burlington School District From sklemetti at softhome.net Mon Feb 3 21:44:41 2003 From: sklemetti at softhome.net (Steve Klemetti) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 16:44:41 -0500 Subject: Arcserve 7 Login problems Message-ID: <3E3EE2C9.8598ED77@softhome.net> Netware 6 with Arcserve 7 and the patches. I run the manager, click on the Backup Manager and it presents a Security dialog box. I enter the admin user and password using the full name. Then it returns the message Server KCIBUFX failed to authenticate the user .cn=admin.o=kci (EC=-1) Please verify that the user name & password is correct. On Cai.com there is a technical document about that but it says to bind IPX to the server. IPX is bound to the server. From zzz at mctc.mnscu.edu Mon Feb 3 23:49:30 2003 From: zzz at mctc.mnscu.edu (zzz) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 17:49:30 -0600 Subject: Best way to go from DS 7 to DS 8? Message-ID: >Dear Folks, > >I have been preparing to go from DS 7 to DS 8. Any reason you are choosing DS8 over edir? > I have patched our >4.11, 5.0 and 5.1 servers to the latest version. Done the DS health >stuff, moved master replicas to 5.1 machines That is a good starting point. How many master replicas? How many R/W? WAN connections? >all that remains is to get a few replacement JetDirect boxes in place. >My immediate goal is to upgrade to BorderManager 3.7. My secondary >goal is to create two new, large centralized servers to replace the 9 >existing NetWare 4.11 servers, leaving only NW 5.1 and NW 6 servers. I can't answer the Border Manager question. >At this point I have 2 options to do the actual upgrade. I can upgrade >the DS on an existing NW 5.1 server, or I can install a new NW 6 server >in the tree. >Which is best? Tough call but here is one strategy : First, review all your replicas and remove any that are not critical, at least temporarily for the upgrade. Move your master replica(s) to NW51 server(s) that are less busy or less critical so you can reboot if needed for troubleshooting. Update the master replica boxes from DS7 to whatever version you are going with and do the proper troubleshooting and testing. If this works, update all servers with replicas to the DS version you choose. This allows you to focus on DS issues, not NW6 upgrade issues. Personally, I prefer the idea of getting the master replicas onto new NW6 boxes as soon as you can. >Is there another way that is even better? YMMV Others will have comments. Thanks Dana >Are there any pitfalls I have missed? > >TIA >Craig Lyndes >Burlington School District >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From Bill.Swisher at thomasmore.edu Tue Feb 4 14:13:50 2003 From: Bill.Swisher at thomasmore.edu (Bill Swisher) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 09:13:50 -0500 Subject: Border Manager 3.7 Message-ID: I would bet that you have either the WRONG subnet mask set for the VPN Master server OR IP is not bound to the board VPTUNNEL. 1. Run VPNCONFIG again to verify the settings for the VPN setup and REINITIALIZE SYSTEM. 2. Check INETCFG to make sure the IP is bound to VPTUNNEL and that this IP is the IP of your VPN Master server. Bill Swisher From bob.brownell at ig.state.ny.us Tue Feb 4 14:20:57 2003 From: bob.brownell at ig.state.ny.us (Bob Brownell) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 09:20:57 -0500 Subject: Arcserve 7 Login problems Message-ID: A few things that worked for me in a test environment with NW6 and Arcserve 9 may give you a lead on a solution. I had to have at least SP1 on NW6 Workstation client at least 4.83 And, entries in windows hosts file of management pc containing target server and it's ip address Good luck, Bob >>> sklemetti at softhome.net 02/03/03 04:44PM >>> Netware 6 with Arcserve 7 and the patches. I run the manager, click on the Backup Manager and it presents a Security dialog box. I enter the admin user and password using the full name. Then it returns the message Server KCIBUFX failed to authenticate the user .cn=admin.o=kci (EC=-1) Please verify that the user name & password is correct. On Cai.com there is a technical document about that but it says to bind IPX to the server. IPX is bound to the server. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From hvl at one.net Tue Feb 4 16:47:52 2003 From: hvl at one.net (Richard F. Bolha) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 11:47:52 -0500 Subject: Granting rights? Message-ID: <3E3FA868.7043.78CC1D@localhost> In Novell 6, I am attempting to apply SP2. It gets maybe 39 percent done. None of the passwords are strong enough. I have tried beefing them up. What is the best way of getting to unlimited rights? Thanks Richard F. Bolha From WCOPELAN at ngwmail.des.state.mn.us Tue Feb 4 16:47:23 2003 From: WCOPELAN at ngwmail.des.state.mn.us (Wayne Copeland) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 10:47:23 -0600 Subject: Granting rights? Message-ID: I know I've seen this problem posted before and I've been searching the archives and FAQ but I cannot find any relevant information. Our server staff are replacing NW 4.11 servers with new NW 5.1 servers in the field. After the upgrade many people cannot save MS Word or WordPerfect files to the server. They have the necessary rights to their directories (all but S & A). I remember seeing this problem before but I cannot find a solution. Any help would be appreciated. TIA. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Copeland | (651) 297-3391 State of Minnesota | (651) 296-5745 (fax) 390 North Robert St. | wcopelan at ngwmail.des.state.mn.us Saint Paul, MN 55101 | ------------------------------ Opinions expressed are mine and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer! ------------------------------------------------------------------- From tim at nds8.com Tue Feb 4 16:49:36 2003 From: tim at nds8.com (Tim Heywood) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 16:49:36 +0000 Subject: Granting rights? Message-ID: The admin user must be entered in the form .admin.context Note the leading full stop (period for my transatlantic friends) Tim ************************* Tim Heywood Scotland (God's Country) Novell Support Connection SYSOP ************************* In theory, practice and theory are the same, In practice they are different! >>> hvl at one.net 04/02/2003 16:47:52 >>> From: hvl at one.net Sent: Tuesday, 04 February, 2003 16:47 To: Subject: Granting rights? Priority: Normal In Novell 6, I am attempting to apply SP2. It gets maybe 39 percent done. None of the passwords are strong enough. I have tried beefing them up. What is the best way of getting to unlimited rights? Thanks Richard F. Bolha _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From phasenjager at fzacpa.com Tue Feb 4 17:13:03 2003 From: phasenjager at fzacpa.com (Patrick Hasenjager) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 11:13:03 -0600 Subject: Granting rights? Message-ID: Disable file caching on both the server and the client. >>> WCOPELAN at ngwmail.des.state.mn.us 02/04/03 10:47AM >>> I know I've seen this problem posted before and I've been searching the archives and FAQ but I cannot find any relevant information. Our server staff are replacing NW 4.11 servers with new NW 5.1 servers in the field. After the upgrade many people cannot save MS Word or WordPerfect files to the server. They have the necessary rights to their directories (all but S & A). I remember seeing this problem before but I cannot find a solution. Any help would be appreciated. TIA. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Copeland | (651) 297-3391 State of Minnesota | (651) 296-5745 (fax) 390 North Robert St. | wcopelan at ngwmail.des.state.mn.us Saint Paul, MN 55101 | ------------------------------ Opinions expressed are mine and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer! ------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell ************************************************************************** This e-mail and any attachments are intended only for the addressee. If you are not the addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail or attachments. Please immediately notify the sender if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete it from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender does not accept liability for errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise or occur during transmission. We will provide a "hard-copy" version of the message and attachments upon request. Although reasonable precautions are taken to assure this e-mail is virus free, we do not accept responsibility for the loss or damage arising from the use of this e-mail or attachments. From bob.brownell at ig.state.ny.us Tue Feb 4 17:14:45 2003 From: bob.brownell at ig.state.ny.us (Bob Brownell) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 12:14:45 -0500 Subject: Abend in filesys.nlm after sp5 for nw5.1 Message-ID: Applied sp5 to nw5.1 and server will not reboot without an abend in filesys.nlm. Tried the filesys.nlm from flsysft8.exe, and still getting the abends. This is on a Compaq Proliant 1600, 2-9g drives, hardware raid 1. We are considering backing out to the previous sp3. Any comments welcome. Thank you, Bob From dtran at ssc.ucla.edu Tue Feb 4 17:27:12 2003 From: dtran at ssc.ucla.edu (Daniel Tran) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 09:27:12 -0800 Subject: Abend in filesys.nlm after sp5 for nw5.1 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001201c2cc72$a71478f0$49e56180@hp1> There's a filesys from sp3. You may want to try that before backing out the entire sp5 nw51fs1.exe is the file name Daniel - dtran at ssc.ucla.edu > -----Original Message----- > From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu > [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Bob Brownell > Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:15 AM > To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu > Subject: Abend in filesys.nlm after sp5 for nw5.1 > > > Applied sp5 to nw5.1 and server will not reboot without an > abend in filesys.nlm. Tried the filesys.nlm from > flsysft8.exe, and still getting the abends. This is on a > Compaq Proliant 1600, 2-9g drives, hardware raid 1. > > We are considering backing out to the previous sp3. > > Any comments welcome. > > Thank you, > Bob > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > From tim at nds8.com Tue Feb 4 17:27:59 2003 From: tim at nds8.com (Tim Heywood) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 17:27:59 +0000 Subject: Abend in filesys.nlm after sp5 for nw5.1 Message-ID: Down the server, delete all the Srvcfg.* files you find in C:\nwserver. Edit the config.sys so that the files line is Files=100 (80 will do but what the heck) and then reboot. Tim ************************* Tim Heywood Scotland (God's Country) Novell Support Connection SYSOP ************************* In theory, practice and theory are the same, In practice they are different! >>> bob.brownell at ig.state.ny.us 04/02/2003 17:14:45 >>> From: bob.brownell at ig.state.ny.us Sent: Tuesday, 04 February, 2003 17:14 To: Subject: Abend in filesys.nlm after sp5 for nw5.1 Priority: Normal Applied sp5 to nw5.1 and server will not reboot without an abend in filesys.nlm. Tried the filesys.nlm from flsysft8.exe, and still getting the abends. This is on a Compaq Proliant 1600, 2-9g drives, hardware raid 1. We are considering backing out to the previous sp3. Any comments welcome. Thank you, Bob _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From dtran at ssc.ucla.edu Tue Feb 4 17:29:42 2003 From: dtran at ssc.ucla.edu (Daniel Tran) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 09:29:42 -0800 Subject: Abend in filesys.nlm after sp5 for nw5.1 Message-ID: <001301c2cc73$00b2fa30$49e56180@hp1> Forgot to mention TID10055904. You may want to look at that too. Daniel > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel Tran [mailto:dtran at ssc.ucla.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:27 AM > To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' > Subject: RE: Abend in filesys.nlm after sp5 for nw5.1 > > > There's a filesys from sp3. > You may want to try that before backing out the entire sp5 > > nw51fs1.exe is the file name > > Daniel - dtran at ssc.ucla.edu > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu > > [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Bob Brownell > > Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:15 AM > > To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu > > Subject: Abend in filesys.nlm after sp5 for nw5.1 > > > > > > Applied sp5 to nw5.1 and server will not reboot without an > > abend in filesys.nlm. Tried the filesys.nlm from > > flsysft8.exe, and still getting the abends. This is on a > > Compaq Proliant 1600, 2-9g drives, hardware raid 1. > > > > We are considering backing out to the previous sp3. > > > > Any comments welcome. > > > > Thank you, > > Bob > > _______________________________________________ > > Novell mailing list > > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/nov> ell > > > From dtran at ssc.ucla.edu Tue Feb 4 17:40:35 2003 From: dtran at ssc.ucla.edu (Daniel Tran) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 09:40:35 -0800 Subject: Abend in filesys.nlm after sp5 for nw5.1 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001501c2cc74$85e93100$49e56180@hp1> Sorry about that Bob. I did not look at my notes carefully and didn't even verify with KB. Try Tim's suggestion too. I think he's right. Daniel > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Brownell [mailto:bob.brownell at ig.state.ny.us] > Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:30 AM > To: dtran at ssc.ucla.edu > Subject: RE: Abend in filesys.nlm after sp5 for nw5.1 > > > I thought this tid was for NW5.0. > > Bob > > >>> "Daniel Tran" 02/04/03 12:29PM >>> > Forgot to mention TID10055904. You may want to look at that too. > > Daniel > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Daniel Tran [mailto:dtran at ssc.ucla.edu] > > Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:27 AM > > To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' > > Subject: RE: Abend in filesys.nlm after sp5 for nw5.1 > > > > > > There's a filesys from sp3. > > You may want to try that before backing out the entire sp5 > > > > nw51fs1.exe is the file name > > > > Daniel - dtran at ssc.ucla.edu > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu > > > [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Bob Brownell > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:15 AM > > > To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu > > > Subject: Abend in filesys.nlm after sp5 for nw5.1 > > > > > > > > > Applied sp5 to nw5.1 and server will not reboot without > an abend in > > > filesys.nlm. Tried the filesys.nlm from flsysft8.exe, and still > > > getting the abends. This is on a Compaq Proliant 1600, > 2-9g drives, > > > hardware raid 1. > > > > > > We are considering backing out to the previous sp3. > > > > > > Any comments welcome. > > > > > > Thank you, > > > Bob > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Novell mailing list > > > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/nov> ell > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > From bob.brownell at ig.state.ny.us Tue Feb 4 17:40:15 2003 From: bob.brownell at ig.state.ny.us (Bob Brownell) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 12:40:15 -0500 Subject: Abend in filesys.nlm after sp5 for nw5.1 Message-ID: It did have files = 30, changed to 100. Didn't have any srvcfg.* files at all. Upon reboot, still abends on filesys.nlm. Bob >>> tim at nds8.com 02/04/03 12:27PM >>> Down the server, delete all the Srvcfg.* files you find in C:\nwserver. Edit the config.sys so that the files line is Files=100 (80 will do but what the heck) and then reboot. Tim ************************* Tim Heywood Scotland (God's Country) Novell Support Connection SYSOP ************************* In theory, practice and theory are the same, In practice they are different! >>> bob.brownell at ig.state.ny.us 04/02/2003 17:14:45 >>> From: bob.brownell at ig.state.ny.us Sent: Tuesday, 04 February, 2003 17:14 To: Subject: Abend in filesys.nlm after sp5 for nw5.1 Priority: Normal Applied sp5 to nw5.1 and server will not reboot without an abend in filesys.nlm. Tried the filesys.nlm from flsysft8.exe, and still getting the abends. This is on a Compaq Proliant 1600, 2-9g drives, hardware raid 1. We are considering backing out to the previous sp3. Any comments welcome. Thank you, Bob _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From skiphefel at advanced-data.com Tue Feb 4 17:48:19 2003 From: skiphefel at advanced-data.com (Skip Hefel) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 11:48:19 -0600 Subject: Abend in filesys.nlm after sp5... follow Tim's suggestion Message-ID: <2C2609144800D611A50A006008F61227018113BE@AXIAL.advanced-data.com> Definitely try Tim's suggestion, these three files have occasion to corrupt in instances. You will lose all modified settings. See AppNotes Dec. 2001 for High Performance Availability for NetWare 4.x and 5.x servers to create a NovTune.ncf file that can be great in this instance and when setting up new servers in the future. www.novell.com/AppNotes Skip Hefel -----Original Message----- From: Tim Heywood [mailto:tim at nds8.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:28 AM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: Re: Abend in filesys.nlm after sp5 for nw5.1 Down the server, delete all the Srvcfg.* files you find in C:\nwserver. Edit the config.sys so that the files line is Files=100 (80 will do but what the heck) and then reboot. Tim ************************* Tim Heywood Scotland (God's Country) Novell Support Connection SYSOP ************************* In theory, practice and theory are the same, In practice they are different! >>> bob.brownell at ig.state.ny.us 04/02/2003 17:14:45 >>> From: bob.brownell at ig.state.ny.us Sent: Tuesday, 04 February, 2003 17:14 To: Subject: Abend in filesys.nlm after sp5 for nw5.1 Priority: Normal Applied sp5 to nw5.1 and server will not reboot without an abend in filesys.nlm. Tried the filesys.nlm from flsysft8.exe, and still getting the abends. This is on a Compaq Proliant 1600, 2-9g drives, hardware raid 1. We are considering backing out to the previous sp3. Any comments welcome. Thank you, Bob From CBeeman at airbornenacelle.com Tue Feb 4 17:50:07 2003 From: CBeeman at airbornenacelle.com (Charlie Beeman) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 11:50:07 -0600 Subject: Abend in filesys.nlm after sp5... follow Tim's suggestion Message-ID: how do i unsubscribe from this list? -----Original Message----- From: Skip Hefel [mailto:skiphefel at advanced-data.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:48 AM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: Abend in filesys.nlm after sp5... follow Tim's suggestion Definitely try Tim's suggestion, these three files have occasion to corrupt in instances. You will lose all modified settings. See AppNotes Dec. 2001 for High Performance Availability for NetWare 4.x and 5.x servers to create a NovTune.ncf file that can be great in this instance and when setting up new servers in the future. www.novell.com/AppNotes Skip Hefel -----Original Message----- From: Tim Heywood [mailto:tim at nds8.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:28 AM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: Re: Abend in filesys.nlm after sp5 for nw5.1 Down the server, delete all the Srvcfg.* files you find in C:\nwserver. Edit the config.sys so that the files line is Files=100 (80 will do but what the heck) and then reboot. Tim ************************* Tim Heywood Scotland (God's Country) Novell Support Connection SYSOP ************************* In theory, practice and theory are the same, In practice they are different! >>> bob.brownell at ig.state.ny.us 04/02/2003 17:14:45 >>> From: bob.brownell at ig.state.ny.us Sent: Tuesday, 04 February, 2003 17:14 To: Subject: Abend in filesys.nlm after sp5 for nw5.1 Priority: Normal Applied sp5 to nw5.1 and server will not reboot without an abend in filesys.nlm. Tried the filesys.nlm from flsysft8.exe, and still getting the abends. This is on a Compaq Proliant 1600, 2-9g drives, hardware raid 1. We are considering backing out to the previous sp3. Any comments welcome. Thank you, Bob _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From tim at nds8.com Tue Feb 4 17:52:56 2003 From: tim at nds8.com (Tim Heywood) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 17:52:56 +0000 Subject: Abend in filesys.nlm after sp5 for nw5.1 Message-ID: My apologies, servcfg.* (specifically servcfg.000 servcfg.nbk and servcfg.tmp) Tim ************************* Tim Heywood Scotland (God's Country) Novell Support Connection SYSOP ************************* In theory, practice and theory are the same, In practice they are different! >>> bob.brownell at ig.state.ny.us 04/02/2003 17:40:15 >>> From: bob.brownell at ig.state.ny.us Sent: Tuesday, 04 February, 2003 17:40 To: Subject: Re: Abend in filesys.nlm after sp5 for nw5.1 Priority: Normal It did have files = 30, changed to 100. Didn't have any srvcfg.* files at all. Upon reboot, still abends on filesys.nlm. Bob >>> tim at nds8.com 02/04/03 12:27PM >>> Down the server, delete all the Srvcfg.* files you find in C:\nwserver. Edit the config.sys so that the files line is Files=100 (80 will do but what the heck) and then reboot. Tim ************************* Tim Heywood Scotland (God's Country) Novell Support Connection SYSOP ************************* In theory, practice and theory are the same, In practice they are different! >>> bob.brownell at ig.state.ny.us 04/02/2003 17:14:45 >>> From: bob.brownell at ig.state.ny.us Sent: Tuesday, 04 February, 2003 17:14 To: Subject: Abend in filesys.nlm after sp5 for nw5.1 Priority: Normal Applied sp5 to nw5.1 and server will not reboot without an abend in filesys.nlm. Tried the filesys.nlm from flsysft8.exe, and still getting the abends. This is on a Compaq Proliant 1600, 2-9g drives, hardware raid 1. We are considering backing out to the previous sp3. Any comments welcome. Thank you, Bob _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From dtran at ssc.ucla.edu Tue Feb 4 17:58:09 2003 From: dtran at ssc.ucla.edu (Daniel Tran) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 09:58:09 -0800 Subject: reset locked account property rights Message-ID: <001701c2cc76$fa5b2640$49e56180@hp1> What is the property rights for resetting locked account. Would that be the "account locked" property? I want to give a user only the right to reset account. thanks Daniel From ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu Tue Feb 4 17:58:01 2003 From: ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 12:58:01 -0500 Subject: Granting rights? Message-ID: It may not be rights. There are two places it wants admin to sign in. In one location it wants a leading "." (period) in another it hates it. Try both. Seperately, I've had a locked out admin user cause problems. ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- Remember: once, everyone "Knew" the world was flat. --------------------------------------------------- >>> hvl at one.net 02/04/03 11:47AM >>> In Novell 6, I am attempting to apply SP2. It gets maybe 39 percent done. None of the passwords are strong enough. I have tried beefing them up. What is the best way of getting to unlimited rights? Thanks Richard F. Bolha _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From JRD at cc.usu.edu Tue Feb 4 16:59:59 2003 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 10:59:59 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Abend in filesys.nlm after sp5... follow Tim's suggestion Message-ID: <01KS1D6HMP5EAYL6IB@cc.usu.edu> > >how do i unsubscribe from this list? ------ One pays attention and reads the text appearing as the footer on every message. Follow that sign. It is easy, and it is self-sevice. Joe D. From JRD at cc.usu.edu Tue Feb 4 17:03:11 2003 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 11:03:11 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Abend in filesys.nlm after sp5 for nw5.1 Message-ID: <01KS1D9IBG20AYL6IB@cc.usu.edu> >My apologies, servcfg.* (specifically servcfg.000 servcfg.nbk and >servcfg.tmp) > >Tim --------- To add to the confusion, there is the possibility that the upgrade files were not all applied, leading to a mixed version situation. We have seen that plenty of times. Thus some hand inspection of file size and timestamps could be worth while. Finally, check on C: for directory nwupdate. Things in it are applied before those in nwserver. Joe D. From carter at ipfw.edu Tue Feb 4 18:07:47 2003 From: carter at ipfw.edu (Jean-Paul Carter) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 13:07:47 -0500 Subject: reset locked account property rights Message-ID: What we usually do to find stuff is to look up an account using the jrb utils or the N4utils from D. Collins to dump a user, then lock out the account and dump it again and find what changed. If memory servers me correctly, the ones that deal with locked accounts are: Login Intruder Attempts Login Intruder Reset Time Locked by Intruder The jrb stuff you can get from www.jrbsoftware.com the n4 stuff not sure where to get it anymore. If you want it, email me and I will send it to you. John Carter Senior Network Systems Programmer ITServices Indiana Purdue University Ft. Wayne 2101 Coliseum Blvd Ft. Wayne IN 46805 260 481-5473 260 481-4152 fax carter at ipfw.edu >>> "Daniel Tran" 02/04/03 12:58PM >>> What is the property rights for resetting locked account. Would that be the "account locked" property? I want to give a user only the right to reset account. thanks Daniel _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From CBeeman at airbornenacelle.com Tue Feb 4 18:22:35 2003 From: CBeeman at airbornenacelle.com (Charlie Beeman) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 12:22:35 -0600 Subject: Abend in filesys.nlm after sp5... follow Tim's suggestion Message-ID: un subscribe me plz -----Original Message----- From: Joe Doupnik [mailto:JRD at cc.usu.edu] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:00 AM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: Re: Abend in filesys.nlm after sp5... follow Tim's suggestion > >how do i unsubscribe from this list? ------ One pays attention and reads the text appearing as the footer on every message. Follow that sign. It is easy, and it is self-sevice. Joe D. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From jgroetsema at uop.edu Tue Feb 4 19:23:35 2003 From: jgroetsema at uop.edu (Jeff Groetsema) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 11:23:35 -0800 Subject: DHCP uninstall Message-ID: Anyone have any information on how to uninstall DNS/DHCP from NetWare? I cannot find any information regarding this on the Novell site, plenty of stuff on using and trouble shooting, but nothing on uninstalling. I know there is some utility to remove all the schema extension stuff, but cannot find information on how to use it properly. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu From kem at carteret.edu Tue Feb 4 19:31:32 2003 From: kem at carteret.edu (Ken Martin) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 14:31:32 -0500 Subject: DHCP uninstall Message-ID: dnipinst -r ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Ken Martin CNE Director of Network Technologies 252 222 6243 kem at carteret.edu beeper = 252 222 2202 >>> jgroetsema at uop.edu 02/04/03 02:23PM >>> Anyone have any information on how to uninstall DNS/DHCP from NetWare? I cannot find any information regarding this on the Novell site, plenty of stuff on using and trouble shooting, but nothing on uninstalling. I know there is some utility to remove all the schema extension stuff, but cannot find information on how to use it properly. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell ********** Email correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties. From jon at novell.com Tue Feb 4 19:34:34 2003 From: jon at novell.com (Jon Christensen) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 12:34:34 -0700 Subject: DHCP uninstall Message-ID: Type "DNIPINST -r" on the server console, but make sure you have the current version of DNIPINST. See TID 10076679. http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/10076679.htm# Jon >>> jgroetsema at uop.edu 2/4/2003 12:23:35 PM >>> Anyone have any information on how to uninstall DNS/DHCP from NetWare? I cannot find any information regarding this on the Novell site, plenty of stuff on using and trouble shooting, but nothing on uninstalling. I know there is some utility to remove all the schema extension stuff, but cannot find information on how to use it properly. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From Sebolt at rmu.edu Tue Feb 4 19:45:07 2003 From: Sebolt at rmu.edu (Kevin Sebolt) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 14:45:07 -0500 Subject: NDPS not printing large jobs Message-ID: Greetings, We have had an ongoing problem using the NDPS printing solution. We are currently running NetWare 5.1 (SP3) on a Compaq Proliant server. If a student prints a large document, we can see through the NDPS Print Manager on the console how the job is progressing. Although it looks like it finishes processing after 100%, the print job never prints to the printer. Is there something at the client side that needs looked at? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Kevin G. Sebolt sebolt at rmu.edu From jgroetsema at uop.edu Tue Feb 4 19:55:57 2003 From: jgroetsema at uop.edu (Jeff Groetsema) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 11:55:57 -0800 Subject: DHCP uninstall Message-ID: Thanks, This appears to be the information I need. >>> "Jon Christensen" 02/04/03 11:34AM >>> Type "DNIPINST -r" on the server console, but make sure you have the current version of DNIPINST. See TID 10076679. http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/10076679.htm# Jon >>> jgroetsema at uop.edu 2/4/2003 12:23:35 PM >>> Anyone have any information on how to uninstall DNS/DHCP from NetWare? I cannot find any information regarding this on the Novell site, plenty of stuff on using and trouble shooting, but nothing on uninstalling. I know there is some utility to remove all the schema extension stuff, but cannot find information on how to use it properly. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From bob.brownell at ig.state.ny.us Tue Feb 4 21:10:15 2003 From: bob.brownell at ig.state.ny.us (Bob Brownell) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 16:10:15 -0500 Subject: Abend in filesys.nlm after sp5 for nw5.1 Message-ID: Thanks to all that replied. We ended up backing out of sp5 to the previous sp3 and things are now running on that machine. We did try all the suggestions except the hand inspection of files, it is at a remote location and would have been quite difficult. It would have been asking a lot of our remote person that was following our instructions. My next question is whether this will hold up my upgrade to Netware 6? My original plan was to upgrade all six of our servers in four locations to sp5. We currently run NDS 7x. Then upgrade to NDS edirectory 8.5 on all six servers. This step seemed to be highly recommended from reading previous posts on the subject. Then use the upgrade wizard to go to Netware 6 on new hardware of the machine with the master of root. Not all machines can go to Netware 6 right away, for various reasons. Three servers do not have the required 2GB available on sys for the upgrade and not enough free space to get to that size. One server runs NIAS for our dialout modem pool. NIAS is only supported on Netware 6 if installed from Border Manager 3.7 which we do not own. Leaving two machines that are going to new hardware which will be Netware 6. Would I be able to run in a mixed tree of edirectory 8.6.2, and nds 7.55, and nds 7.60a? Thank you, Bob >>> JRD at cc.usu.edu 02/04/03 12:03PM >>> >My apologies, servcfg.* (specifically servcfg.000 servcfg.nbk and >servcfg.tmp) > >Tim --------- To add to the confusion, there is the possibility that the upgrade files were not all applied, leading to a mixed version situation. We have seen that plenty of times. Thus some hand inspection of file size and timestamps could be worth while. Finally, check on C: for directory nwupdate. Things in it are applied before those in nwserver. Joe D. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From jon at novell.com Tue Feb 4 22:05:11 2003 From: jon at novell.com (Jon Christensen) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 15:05:11 -0700 Subject: Granting rights? Message-ID: I believe that was a filesys.nlm issue. You might also have to disable client file caching on the server. See TID 10054917. http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/10054917.htm >>> WCOPELAN at ngwmail.des.state.mn.us 2/4/2003 9:47:23 AM >>> I know I've seen this problem posted before and I've been searching the archives and FAQ but I cannot find any relevant information. Our server staff are replacing NW 4.11 servers with new NW 5.1 servers in the field. After the upgrade many people cannot save MS Word or WordPerfect files to the server. They have the necessary rights to their directories (all but S & A). I remember seeing this problem before but I cannot find a solution. Any help would be appreciated. TIA. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Copeland | (651) 297-3391 State of Minnesota | (651) 296-5745 (fax) 390 North Robert St. | wcopelan at ngwmail.des.state.mn.us Saint Paul, MN 55101 | ------------------------------ Opinions expressed are mine and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer! ------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From dtran at ssc.ucla.edu Tue Feb 4 23:19:30 2003 From: dtran at ssc.ucla.edu (Daniel Tran) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:19:30 -0800 Subject: login problem question Message-ID: <002b01c2cca3$de7c7870$49e56180@hp1> Hi. One of our remote location just reported a login problem (everything else is fine) Login with win2k is perfectly fine. Login with win95/98 (they've tried several workstations) using the same username & password gave this message Netware Security Message You have encountered an unexpected login failure! Status: 0XFFFFFFD1B I don't have a clue so I will head over there tomorrow. Just want to consult with the list to find out if you have any suggestions? Thanks Daniel From SYSSWS at gc.maricopa.edu Wed Feb 5 00:40:21 2003 From: SYSSWS at gc.maricopa.edu (Steven W. Smith) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 17:40:21 -0700 (MST) Subject: Novell Web Site Message-ID: <01KS1R4UDLLK002HFX@gc.maricopa.edu> Dave Moon wrote: >Anyone have problems with Novell's website. We keep getting LInk broken. It seems more broken, er, IE-enhanced than normal lately. Using either Netscape or Mozilla, many pages launch into a stupid "404 & reload" spasm. I've had better luck using IE under Windows, and Konqueror w/ Linux. Example: using Mozilla 1.0.1/Linux, I enter the url http://www.novell.com/company/advertising/index.html As it starts loading, the url gets rewritten to http://www.novell.com/company/advertising/') and goes into the constantly-reloading-404-page thing. HTH Steven W. Smith, Systems Programmer Glendale Community College. Glendale Az. syssws at gc.maricopa.edu Did I mention how desperately I want more Nigerian pen pals? From JRD at cc.usu.edu Tue Feb 4 23:56:23 2003 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 17:56:23 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Novell Web Site Message-ID: <01KS1RPMFIY0AYL79N@cc.usu.edu> >Dave Moon wrote: >>Anyone have problems with Novell's website. We keep getting LInk broken. > >It seems more broken, er, IE-enhanced than normal lately. Using either >Netscape or Mozilla, many pages launch into a stupid "404 & reload" >spasm. I've had better luck using IE under Windows, and Konqueror w/ Linux. > >Example: using Mozilla 1.0.1/Linux, I enter the url >http://www.novell.com/company/advertising/index.html >As it starts loading, the url gets rewritten to >http://www.novell.com/company/advertising/') and goes into the >constantly-reloading-404-page thing. > >HTH > >Steven W. Smith, Systems Programmer >Glendale Community College. Glendale Az. >syssws at gc.maricopa.edu ---------- That URL works perfectly here with Netscape v7.0 on Win XP. I don't see any funnies on Novell's web pages. Joe D. From dtran at ssc.ucla.edu Wed Feb 5 02:45:13 2003 From: dtran at ssc.ucla.edu (Daniel Tran) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 18:45:13 -0800 Subject: reset locked account property rights - FOUND IT Message-ID: <000001c2ccc0$9b679840$49e56180@hp1> Just a follow up to my previous email. I found TID 10013927. Here's a short snip from the TID To Create a "HelpDesk" type user who can administer passwords, but does not have Admin rights. Administering passwords must include the ability to unlock Intruder detection-type lockouts If so, you can make the help-desk user a trustee of that container, and give them read, write and inheritable rights to the following attributes.: - Password Management (this allows them to set a user's password) - Account Locked - Account Reset Time - Incorrect Login Attempts The last three are needed to reset intruder lockout. When you uncheck the lockout check box the program writes to all three of these fields Daniel > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel Tran [mailto:dtran at ssc.ucla.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:58 AM > To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' > Subject: reset locked account property rights > > What is the property rights for resetting locked account. > Would that be the "account locked" property? > I want to give a user only the right to reset account. > > thanks > Daniel > From JMansfield at eircom.ie Wed Feb 5 12:46:47 2003 From: JMansfield at eircom.ie (JMansfield at eircom.ie) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:46:47 -0000 Subject: FW: reset locked account property rights (Daniel Tran) Message-ID: <27FA34A6E2C7D511AF780002B330C552053E5068@EIRCOMMSG04> reset locked account property rights (Daniel Tran) Daniel, Yes account locked will do it , we have delegated passord management right to a hepldesk for a mixed 4/5 tree using that to allow them to reset locked accounts as well. We only do it at sub container level and they themselves are excluded. There is a good tid on password maagement, search for password management in the KB (brief KB search here) Even better there is a doc nw5.x password amanegment attached below. In a miixed tree ther si an issue that the clients hve to have an up to date client, have anw5 server as there preferred (with replica's of the partitions required ) and be running the admin util of your choice from that server. This wasn't an issue with our centralised helpdesk but may cause issues elsewhere. John Mansfield Central Services Telephone - +(01)-7011203 Faxsimile - +(01)-4780382 E-mail - jmansfield at eircom.ie Technical Information Document Implementing Locked Account management in NetWare 5.x - TID10058541 (last modified 09OCT2002) 10058541 10058541 10058541 goal Implementing Locked Account management in NetWare 5.x fact Novell NetWare 5.0 Novell NetWare 5.1 symptom Want to grant a user rights just to manage Locked Account that was locked during Intruder Lockout. fix To configure password management for a user over a context, the following has to be done: Note: In a mixed environment of NetWare 5 and 4.11, you must set the NetWare 5 server as the primary server in the client before authenticating in order for the correct property rights to be active. It will also only work correctly when authenticated or obtaining information from a NW5 replica (will only work in a fully NW5 replica ring). 1. In NWAdmn32, right-click on the context of users you want the password administrator to be in-charge of. 2. Select "Trustees of this Object...". 3. Select "Add Trustee" and select the user that you want to be the password administrator. 4. Click on the "Selected properties:" radio button. 5. Scroll down the list till you reach the "Account Locked" ACL. Make sure there is a 'tick' at the side of that ACL. 6. Select Compare, Read, Write and Inheritable for that ACL. (Also make sure the Inheritable right is enabled for object rights as well.) 7. Repeat steps 5 and 6 for the following properties: Account Reset Time Incorrect Login Attempt Login Time Restrictions 8. Click "OK" when done. 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This message has been swept by Anti-Virus software **************************************************************** From admin at iaa.gov.il Wed Feb 5 13:24:28 2003 From: admin at iaa.gov.il (admin at iaa.gov.il) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:24:28 +0200 Subject: Slow logout after Zen4 Agent installation - semi solution Message-ID: Afternoon all, For those of you suffering a system slowdown on Shutdown after installing the Zen4 Agent, following is the solution to get the WS to shutdown much faster. The only issue here is that this solution is one which we do not have confirmation on (yet) from Novell, and we also do not know the full repurcussions of performing the change. A WS running Zen4 Agent has a service called Netware Application Launcher. Open Services, find this service. Stop the service. Disable the service from starting automatically. Your WS will now shutdown at a normal speed. Make sure your users are all Local Administrators on the WS or your NAL apps won't work correctly after this change. Why this service causes such a slowdown we do not know, nor what it really does. If you'v been following the issues with Zen4 Agent, you'll notice that neither this issue nor the previous solution I posted re lines lost in Office 2K apps have been posted, even though both issues have been passed to Novell, and one ha a TID. No full engeniering solution is available for either. So perform at your own risk. Just thought you'd all like to know. Mike Glassman Head of System Security Computer & Information Systems Israeli Airports Authority Ben-Gurion Airport http://www.ben-gurion-airport.co.il Tel : 972-3-9710785 Fax : 972-3-9710939 Email : admin at iaa.gov.il Usage of this email address or any email address at iaa.gov.il for the purpose of sales pitches, SPAM or any other such unwanted garbage, is illegal, and any person, whether corporate or alone doing so, will be prosecuted to the fullest possible extent. From bud at moldriteplastics.com Wed Feb 5 13:38:14 2003 From: bud at moldriteplastics.com (Bud Durland) Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 08:38:14 -0500 Subject: Novell Web Site In-Reply-To: <01KS1RPMFIY0AYL79N@cc.usu.edu> References: <01KS1RPMFIY0AYL79N@cc.usu.edu> Message-ID: <3E4113C6.1040907@moldriteplastics.com> Joe Doupnik wrote: >>Dave Moon wrote: >> >> >>It seems more broken, er, IE-enhanced than normal lately. Using either >>Netscape or Mozilla, many pages launch into a stupid "404 & reload" >>spasm. I've had better luck using IE under Windows, and Konqueror w/ Linux. >> >>Example: using Mozilla 1.0.1/Linux, I enter the url >>http://www.novell.com/company/advertising/index.html >>As it starts loading, the url gets rewritten to >>http://www.novell.com/company/advertising/') and goes into the >>constantly-reloading-404-page thing. >> >>syssws at gc.maricopa.edu >> >> >---------- > That URL works perfectly here with Netscape v7.0 on Win XP. >I don't see any funnies on Novell's web pages. > Joe D. > > Ditto Mozilla 1.2 on Win2K pro through BorderManager here. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Pinky, are you pondering whay I'm pondering?" "I think so, Brain, but really, me and Pippi Longstockings? I mean, what would the children look like?" ------------------------------------------------------------------- Bud Durland, CNE Mold-Rite Plastics Network Administrator http://www.mrpcap.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- From Al.Bray at usdwp.msu.edu Wed Feb 5 14:15:17 2003 From: Al.Bray at usdwp.msu.edu (Al Bray) Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 09:15:17 -0500 Subject: Slow logout after Zen4 Agent installation - semi solution Message-ID: Mike, I can confirm from my workstation at least (which is the only place I have the Zen4 Agents installed right now because of the speed issue), that disabling the Application Launcher service you mentioned below GREATLY....and I mean GREATLY reduced login/logout times. Were talking from sometimes minutes to less that 10 seconds most times. My gut suspecion on this is that it has something to do with the way the new Zen 4 pieces are resolving names/unc/etc. to NDS/Netware Servers/Zen services, because if I just I just watch the lights on the hard drive on the PC with the workstation is logging in/out....it's just sitting there doing nothing or just blinking occasonally so I know that the 100mb switch ethernet connection is not the bottleneck (also utilization on the servers themselves is low so I don't think they are the bottle neck). It just feel like somthing is having to time out before the logout process can complete. But this is just a suspicion as I have not way or really the expertise to do a packet trace to confirm what is going on. We do use a policy for Dynamic Local users and Roaming Profiles. Also to add to the mix, we have CIFS running on our maiin File and Print server where users profiles are stored. Zen Services (imaging, inventory, WOL, WSIMPORT/REMOVAL, etc) are on a separate server that is also the Middle Tier server (meaning that we don't have a sperate server just for Middle Tier...according to the docs..this is a support configuration), but because we are running the 4.83 SP1 client, the Zen 4 agent are not configured to talk to the middletier server (meaning I am not entering in ip/port information for a middle tier server when installing the agents. At one time, trying to find out where the slowness was coming from, I did configure the agents to talk directly to the middletier server, but it didn't seem to make a difference. Please keep me posted on what you learn from Novell on the issue as I am sure disabling this service is going to impeed the functionality of Zen features that I want to take advantage of. Thanks again for all your efforts and for sharing your findings. - Al =============================== Al Bray Systems Analyst University Services Michigan State University Phone: 517-355-0357 Ext. 161 Fax: 517-353-2024 email: bray at msu.edu >>> admin at iaa.gov.il 02/05/03 08:24AM >>> Afternoon all, For those of you suffering a system slowdown on Shutdown after installing the Zen4 Agent, following is the solution to get the WS to shutdown much faster. The only issue here is that this solution is one which we do not have confirmation on (yet) from Novell, and we also do not know the full repurcussions of performing the change. A WS running Zen4 Agent has a service called Netware Application Launcher. Open Services, find this service. Stop the service. Disable the service from starting automatically. Your WS will now shutdown at a normal speed. Make sure your users are all Local Administrators on the WS or your NAL apps won't work correctly after this change. Why this service causes such a slowdown we do not know, nor what it really does. If you'v been following the issues with Zen4 Agent, you'll notice that neither this issue nor the previous solution I posted re lines lost in Office 2K apps have been posted, even though both issues have been passed to Novell, and one ha a TID. No full engeniering solution is available for either. So perform at your own risk. Just thought you'd all like to know. Mike Glassman Head of System Security Computer & Information Systems Israeli Airports Authority Ben-Gurion Airport http://www.ben-gurion-airport.co.il Tel : 972-3-9710785 Fax : 972-3-9710939 Email : admin at iaa.gov.il Usage of this email address or any email address at iaa.gov.il for the purpose of sales pitches, SPAM or any other such unwanted garbage, is illegal, and any person, whether corporate or alone doing so, will be prosecuted to the fullest possible extent. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: Al Bray.vcf URL: From prandal at herefordshire.gov.uk Wed Feb 5 14:09:09 2003 From: prandal at herefordshire.gov.uk (Randal, Phil) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:09:09 -0000 Subject: Novell Web Site Message-ID: <0EBC45FCABFC95428EBFC3A51B368C9551361E@jessica.herefordshire.gov.uk> It's worth pointing out that the web interface to Novell's newsgroups at http://support-forums.novell.com/ now works in Mozilla / Phoenix / Netscape 7. Thanks Novell. Cheers, Phil --------------------------------------------- Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK > -----Original Message----- > From: Bud Durland [mailto:bud at moldriteplastics.com] > Sent: 05 February 2003 13:38 > To: Novell LAN Interest Group > Subject: Re: Novell Web Site > > > Joe Doupnik wrote: > > >>Dave Moon wrote: > >> > >> > >>It seems more broken, er, IE-enhanced than normal lately. > Using either > >>Netscape or Mozilla, many pages launch into a stupid "404 & reload" > >>spasm. I've had better luck using IE under Windows, and > Konqueror w/ Linux. > >> > >>Example: using Mozilla 1.0.1/Linux, I enter the url > >>http://www.novell.com/company/advertising/index.html > >>As it starts loading, the url gets rewritten to > >>http://www.novell.com/company/advertising/') and goes into the > >>constantly-reloading-404-page thing. > >> > >>syssws at gc.maricopa.edu > >> > >> > >---------- > > That URL works perfectly here with Netscape v7.0 on Win XP. > >I don't see any funnies on Novell's web pages. > > Joe D. > > > > > > Ditto Mozilla 1.2 on Win2K pro through BorderManager here. > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > "Pinky, are you pondering whay I'm pondering?" > "I think so, Brain, but really, me and Pippi Longstockings? > I mean, what would the children look like?" > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bud Durland, CNE Mold-Rite Plastics > Network Administrator http://www.mrpcap.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > From Mark.Puchalski at honigman.com Wed Feb 5 15:40:54 2003 From: Mark.Puchalski at honigman.com (Mark Puchalski) Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 10:40:54 -0500 Subject: NDPS Printer IP Address Message-ID: We're running NDPS on a 6/SP1 server. Due to the reconfiguration of one of our VLANs, we need to assign a new IP address to one of our printers. Our workstations are configured to print to this printer using iPrint, so if we just delete/recreate the printer, users that have installed this printer will be notified that it has been deleted and will have to remove and then reinstall it. Is there a way to change the IP address without causing this disruption with my users? Thank you. -------------------------------------------------------------- Mark A. Puchalski Network Engineer Honigman Miller Schwartz and Cohn LLP Office: 313.465.7167 Fax: 313.465.8267 ********************************************************************* Confidential: This electronic message and all contents contain information from the law firm of Honigman Miller Schwartz and Cohn LLP which may be privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. The information is intended to be for the addressee only. 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How that will affect IPP, don't know, just going down that road now, in typical fits and starts. ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- Remember: once, everyone "Knew" the world was flat. --------------------------------------------------- >>> Mark.Puchalski at honigman.com 02/05/03 10:40AM >>> We're running NDPS on a 6/SP1 server. Due to the reconfiguration of one of our VLANs, we need to assign a new IP address to one of our printers. Our workstations are configured to print to this printer using iPrint, so if we just delete/recreate the printer, users that have installed this printer will be notified that it has been deleted and will have to remove and then reinstall it. Is there a way to change the IP address without causing this disruption with my users? Thank you. -------------------------------------------------------------- Mark A. 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If you have received this electronic message in error, please notify us immediately (313.465.7000) and destroy the original message and all copies. ********************************************************************* From tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk Wed Feb 5 16:32:09 2003 From: tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk (Tim Clarke) Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 16:32:09 +0000 Subject: Server utilization jumps to 99% every 3 to 5 minutes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030205162650.00b15518@pop3> We get this once every two weeks or so. This dstrace didn't yield anything - i.e. when util. shot to 99%-100% and stayed there, the dstrace screen showed no extraordinary activity. I disabled NAV a while back in the hope that it was this and I've read the "high util" tids to no avail. Write queue, network queues all show no problems, it's only solved by a reboot. I've got a tech here saying that he's googled an article on Dell 2400s (our machine is a 2500) that exhibited the issue and attributed it to a shared interrupt. I'll let you all know, but if anyone else has any ideas I'd love 'em to bits... At 20:04 29/01/2003 -0600, you wrote: >Do you have Zen For Desktops and registered workstations in the tree? If >so, one of those workstations could have a virus or bad winsock or >something. On the server going to high utilization do this; > >Set dstrace=on >set dstrace=+dsa > >Toggle to the DS trace screen you will see the workstation generating all >the traffic. That is if you have registered workstations. > >And are your Service Processes climbing? > >Joe Wardzala Tim Clarke AMBCS MIAP IT Director Manifest 9 Freebournes Court Newland Street Witham, Essex CM8 2BL England Phone: +44 1376 503500 Fax: +44 1376 503550 Email: tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk Web: http://www.manifest.co.uk Manifest is the trading name of: Manifest Information Services Ltd: Registered in England Number 3401145 & The Manifest Voting Agency Ltd: Registered in England Number 2920820 Registered Office at above address Copyright: This e-mail may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you are not the named addressee you must not use or disclose such information, instead please report it to administrators at manifest.co.uk Please see http://www.manifest.co.uk/privacy_policy.htm#e-mail for further information. From bud at moldriteplastics.com Wed Feb 5 16:40:03 2003 From: bud at moldriteplastics.com (Bud Durland) Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 11:40:03 -0500 Subject: NDPS Printer IP Address In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3E413E63.5060705@moldriteplastics.com> Joe Acquisto wrote: >I believe you can change the IP address at the print manager server. Go >into the printer agent, configuration. Should be able to give it a new >IP address. Works great in "pure" NDPS. > You must have a different NDPS than me (v3.00b). I'm also faced with the problem of chaging the IP address of a printer. Most of my printers use the standard NetWare LPR handler. When I select a printer from the printer agent list in the NDPS manager, I have a configuration option. That option runs the configuration utility as if I was creating a new printer, starting with manually selecting the gateway type. Indeed, it displays a warning that I have to create a new printer object. I backed out at that point, since I'm not quite ready to change yet. I have yet to find a way to have NDPS tell me "here's the current configuration of that NDPS printer". The HP gateway is a little better, in at it will at least display the IP address of the various printers under it's control. Still, it appears that to make a change I have to go back to the NDPS manager screen and re-run the setup utility from scratch. I tried Console1 to see if there was something there, but no luck. This is an area that Novell could make some improvements on. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Pinky, are you pondering whay I'm pondering?" "I think so, Brain, but really, me and Pippi Longstockings? I mean, what would the children look like?" ------------------------------------------------------------------- Bud Durland, CNE Mold-Rite Plastics Network Administrator http://www.mrpcap.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- From JRD at cc.usu.edu Wed Feb 5 16:06:55 2003 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 10:06:55 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Abend in filesys.nlm after sp5 for nw5.1 Message-ID: <01KS2PI7QVTEAYL5RJ@cc.usu.edu> I was talking with Novell this morning about things and brought up the situation of NW 5.1 SP5 yielding filesys problems. A suggestion is to try beta SP6, part of Consolidated Service Pack 9. Yes, it's beta. To play safe, install it with the backup option so that it can be removed quickly if needs be. It runs ok here, as they alway say. Visit http://beta.novell.com/ to shorten the web page navigation process. Looking ahead, SP5 or later may be required when upgrading the server to NW 6.x. Staying at SP3 may not quite make it, but no one is certain at this time. Current specs are written requiring SP5 or later, testing is done with SP5 as the starting level. Joe D. From ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu Wed Feb 5 17:26:56 2003 From: ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 12:26:56 -0500 Subject: NDPS Printer IP Address Message-ID: >Joe Acquisto wrote: > >>I believe you can change the IP address at the print manager server. >Go >>into the printer agent, configuration. Should be able to give it a new >>IP address. Works great in "pure" NDPS. >> > >You must have a different NDPS than me (v3.00b). I'm also faced with >the problem of chaging the IP address of a printer. Most of my printers >use the standard NetWare LPR handler. Running NDPS Manager v 3.00f. Nw6, sp2. But this feature was in earlier versions, pretty sure. >From the printer agent list, I select a printer, choose configuration, then config utilities, I get a screen that lets me select from (only) Epson, HP, Kyocera, Novell, Xerox. Missing are IBM/LExmark and others. Anyway, If I select Novell, and keep going, soon I see a screen where it shows me what it thinks the current IP is. I've changed it here. Then, you converse with it a bit more and it tells you you need to shutdown the printer agent and restart it to take effect. joea. From jlindblom at mico.com Wed Feb 5 18:49:18 2003 From: jlindblom at mico.com (jlindblom at mico.com) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:49:18 -0600 Subject: Abend in filesys.nlm after sp5 for nw5.1 Message-ID: Maybe just reinstalling the SP will work. If you do, I think you will want to skip the option to backup files, I'm not sure if leaves the backups there after you back reved to SP3. John "Bob Brownell" te.ny.us> cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: Abend in filesys.nlm after sp5 for nw5.1 novell-bounces at netla b1.usu.edu 02/04/2003 03:10 PM Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group Thanks to all that replied. We ended up backing out of sp5 to the previous sp3 and things are now running on that machine. We did try all the suggestions except the hand inspection of files, it is at a remote location and would have been quite difficult. It would have been asking a lot of our remote person that was following our instructions. My next question is whether this will hold up my upgrade to Netware 6? My original plan was to upgrade all six of our servers in four locations to sp5. We currently run NDS 7x. Then upgrade to NDS edirectory 8.5 on all six servers. This step seemed to be highly recommended from reading previous posts on the subject. Then use the upgrade wizard to go to Netware 6 on new hardware of the machine with the master of root. Not all machines can go to Netware 6 right away, for various reasons. Three servers do not have the required 2GB available on sys for the upgrade and not enough free space to get to that size. One server runs NIAS for our dialout modem pool. NIAS is only supported on Netware 6 if installed from Border Manager 3.7 which we do not own. Leaving two machines that are going to new hardware which will be Netware 6. Would I be able to run in a mixed tree of edirectory 8.6.2, and nds 7.55, and nds 7.60a? Thank you, Bob >>> JRD at cc.usu.edu 02/04/03 12:03PM >>> >My apologies, servcfg.* (specifically servcfg.000 servcfg.nbk and >servcfg.tmp) > >Tim --------- To add to the confusion, there is the possibility that the upgrade files were not all applied, leading to a mixed version situation. We have seen that plenty of times. Thus some hand inspection of file size and timestamps could be worth while. Finally, check on C: for directory nwupdate. Things in it are applied before those in nwserver. Joe D. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From zzz at mctc.mnscu.edu Wed Feb 5 19:03:28 2003 From: zzz at mctc.mnscu.edu (zzz) Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 13:03:28 -0600 Subject: NDPS Printer IP Address Message-ID: >Joe Acquisto wrote: > >>I believe you can change the IP address at the print manager server. Go >>into the printer agent, configuration. Should be able to give it a new >>IP address. Works great in "pure" NDPS. >> > >You must have a different NDPS than me (v3.00b). I have version 3.00c, and normally do the IP changes the way Joe describes using the NDPS manager and selecting the HP gateway. Having said that, I just went to change an address on a printer we are moving today, and the system is hanging at the "gateway type", leading me to think I may need to reboot. But normally changing IP addresses through the NDSP manager works for me with the HP gateway. Thanks Dana > I'm also faced with >the problem of chaging the IP address of a printer. Most of my printers >use the standard NetWare LPR handler. > >When I select a printer from the printer agent list in the NDPS manager, >I have a configuration option. That option runs the configuration >utility as if I was creating a new printer, starting with manually >selecting the gateway type. Indeed, it displays a warning that I have >to create a new printer object. I backed out at that point, since I'm >not quite ready to change yet. I have yet to find a way to have NDPS >tell me "here's the current configuration of that NDPS printer". > >The HP gateway is a little better, in at it will at least display the IP >address of the various printers under it's control. Still, it appears >that to make a change I have to go back to the NDPS manager screen and >re-run the setup utility from scratch. > >I tried Console1 to see if there was something there, but no luck. This >is an area that Novell could make some improvements on. > >-- >------------------------------------------------------------------- >"Pinky, are you pondering whay I'm pondering?" >"I think so, Brain, but really, me and Pippi Longstockings? >I mean, what would the children look like?" >------------------------------------------------------------------- >Bud Durland, CNE Mold-Rite Plastics >Network Administrator http://www.mrpcap.com >------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From maryve1 at starpower.net Thu Feb 6 00:03:57 2003 From: maryve1 at starpower.net (Mary Van Engelen) Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 19:03:57 -0500 Subject: TCPIP - Domestic or Null Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030205185025.01e4a5e0@pop.starpower.net> This is probably a stupid question, so please be kind... We are using the domestic TCPIP stack, mostly because I don't understand the difference between it and the null one and I knew we didn't want export. Well the export is no longer a choice anyway. However, I have noticed that Novell recommends using the null version, unless you are running BorderManager. We are using BorderManager 3.6. The question I have is this: We are using the domestic version across the board on all Netware servers. Should we be using domestic on the BorderManager server only and null on the others? Or, should we be consistent about it as we are doing now? We are having some TCPIP related problems (or, shall I say, possibly related), but I don't know if the problems we are having, if related to TCPIP, have to do with running the domestic stack. Nothing is abending. Mostly hiccups and slow response times. Mary From zzz at mctc.mnscu.edu Thu Feb 6 00:43:48 2003 From: zzz at mctc.mnscu.edu (zzz) Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 18:43:48 -0600 Subject: Server utilization jumps to 99% every 3 to 5 minutes Message-ID: In monitor or IMANAGE, what processes, threads, or NLMs are causing the high utilization? Thanks Dana >>> tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk 02/05/03 10:32AM >>> We get this once every two weeks or so. This dstrace didn't yield anything - i.e. when util. shot to 99%-100% and stayed there, the dstrace screen showed no extraordinary activity. I disabled NAV a while back in the hope that it was this and I've read the "high util" tids to no avail. Write queue, network queues all show no problems, it's only solved by a reboot. I've got a tech here saying that he's googled an article on Dell 2400s (our machine is a 2500) that exhibited the issue and attributed it to a shared interrupt. I'll let you all know, but if anyone else has any ideas I'd love 'em to bits... At 20:04 29/01/2003 -0600, you wrote: >Do you have Zen For Desktops and registered workstations in the tree? If >so, one of those workstations could have a virus or bad winsock or >something. On the server going to high utilization do this; > >Set dstrace=on >set dstrace=+dsa > >Toggle to the DS trace screen you will see the workstation generating all >the traffic. That is if you have registered workstations. > >And are your Service Processes climbing? > >Joe Wardzala Tim Clarke AMBCS MIAP IT Director Manifest 9 Freebournes Court Newland Street Witham, Essex CM8 2BL England Phone: +44 1376 503500 Fax: +44 1376 503550 Email: tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk Web: http://www.manifest.co.uk Manifest is the trading name of: Manifest Information Services Ltd: Registered in England Number 3401145 & The Manifest Voting Agency Ltd: Registered in England Number 2920820 Registered Office at above address Copyright: This e-mail may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you are not the named addressee you must not use or disclose such information, instead please report it to administrators at manifest.co.uk Please see http://www.manifest.co.uk/privacy_policy.htm#e-mail for further information. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From dgitter at goinfotek.com Thu Feb 6 03:22:06 2003 From: dgitter at goinfotek.com (Dave Gitter) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 22:22:06 -0500 Subject: Slow Performance Problem Message-ID: <0a5801c2cd8e$ed4c0eb0$6601a8c0@goinfotek.com> Hi all, I have been having some real problems trying to troubleshoot this problem. This problem seemed to arise only on my Windows XP machines and after upgrading from NW 5.1. Any insights would be greatly appreciated. Dave Gitter GO InfoTek ------------------ PROBLEMS =========== Reads & writes to the server seem to drag most of the day. Network Login is pretty slow. The login script seems to delay between displaying the context info and displaying drive mappings. Directory displays (especially in apps like word & excel) sometimes take over 10 seconds to display. Apps like QuickBooks run really slow if the data file is on the server. These problems occur sporadically throughout the day with no identifiable pattern. Even if there are only 3 or 4 users on the system (doing basically nothing) these problems arise. TROUBLESHOOTING DONE TO DATE ============================= Replace NIC in Server DSRepair & Vrepair Isolate test users on a separate Netgear 5 port 10/100 switch Tried running nw client in IPX only mode Tried running nw client in IP only mode Tried running nw client with and without post SP1 updates Server: ====== NetWare sbs v6 (upgraded from 5.1) Micron Netframe 3400 / P3 700mhz 512mb RAM Switches: ======== 2 - Allied Telesyn AT-8124XL (24port 10/100 Managed) Workstations: =========== Intel D815EEA2L System Board 256mb RAM Celeron 900mhz Novell Client v4.83 SP1 (with post SP1 patches installed) Integrated 10/100 NIC Windows XP Pro - SP1 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubarsnafu69 at yahoo.com Thu Feb 6 03:24:50 2003 From: fubarsnafu69 at yahoo.com (Fred James) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 19:24:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: Novell Web Site In-Reply-To: <01KS1R4UDLLK002HFX@gc.maricopa.edu> Message-ID: <20030206032450.64190.qmail@web10705.mail.yahoo.com> works fine for me with mozilla 1.2.1 --- "Steven W. Smith" wrote: > Dave Moon wrote: > >Anyone have problems with Novell's website. We keep getting LInk > broken. > > It seems more broken, er, IE-enhanced than normal lately. Using > either > Netscape or Mozilla, many pages launch into a stupid "404 & reload" > spasm. I've had better luck using IE under Windows, and Konqueror w/ > Linux. > > Example: using Mozilla 1.0.1/Linux, I enter the url > http://www.novell.com/company/advertising/index.html > As it starts loading, the url gets rewritten to > http://www.novell.com/company/advertising/') and goes into the > constantly-reloading-404-page thing. > > HTH > > Steven W. Smith, Systems Programmer > Glendale Community College. Glendale Az. > syssws at gc.maricopa.edu > Did I mention how desperately I want more Nigerian pen pals? > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com Thu Feb 6 03:45:28 2003 From: Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com (Peter Van Lone) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 21:45:28 -0600 Subject: Slow Performance Problem Message-ID: 1)Turn off opp locks (many posts and tids about it) 2)apply sp2 3)apply tcp updates post sp2 4)apply post sp2 nss updates 5)set server speed and duplex (ie turn off auto) - and set switch port speed duplex to match 6)is it a broadcom nic (b57.lan)? that should do it .... pvl -----Original Message----- From: Dave Gitter [mailto:dgitter at goinfotek.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:22 PM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Cc: Dave Gitter - GO Subject: Slow Performance Problem Hi all, I have been having some real problems trying to troubleshoot this problem. This problem seemed to arise only on my Windows XP machines and after upgrading from NW 5.1. Any insights would be greatly appreciated. Dave Gitter GO InfoTek ------------------ PROBLEMS =========== Reads & writes to the server seem to drag most of the day. Network Login is pretty slow. The login script seems to delay between displaying the context info and displaying drive mappings. Directory displays (especially in apps like word & excel) sometimes take over 10 seconds to display. Apps like QuickBooks run really slow if the data file is on the server. These problems occur sporadically throughout the day with no identifiable pattern. Even if there are only 3 or 4 users on the system (doing basically nothing) these problems arise. TROUBLESHOOTING DONE TO DATE ============================= Replace NIC in Server DSRepair & Vrepair Isolate test users on a separate Netgear 5 port 10/100 switch Tried running nw client in IPX only mode Tried running nw client in IP only mode Tried running nw client with and without post SP1 updates Server: ====== NetWare sbs v6 (upgraded from 5.1) Micron Netframe 3400 / P3 700mhz 512mb RAM Switches: ======== 2 - Allied Telesyn AT-8124XL (24port 10/100 Managed) Workstations: =========== Intel D815EEA2L System Board 256mb RAM Celeron 900mhz Novell Client v4.83 SP1 (with post SP1 patches installed) Integrated 10/100 NIC Windows XP Pro - SP1 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubarsnafu69 at yahoo.com Thu Feb 6 03:30:41 2003 From: fubarsnafu69 at yahoo.com (Fred James) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 19:30:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: Slow Performance Problem In-Reply-To: <0a5801c2cd8e$ed4c0eb0$6601a8c0@goinfotek.com> Message-ID: <20030206033041.13628.qmail@web10702.mail.yahoo.com> Have you check to make sure journalling is disable in MS applications. Have you turn off XP tendances to check for schedule task when it connects to another Machine --- Dave Gitter wrote: > Hi all, > > I have been having some real problems trying to troubleshoot this > problem. > > This problem seemed to arise only on my Windows XP machines and after > upgrading from NW 5.1. > > Any insights would be greatly appreciated. > > Dave Gitter > GO InfoTek > ------------------ > > PROBLEMS > =========== > Reads & writes to the server seem to drag most of the day. > Network Login is pretty slow. The login script seems to delay > between displaying the context info and displaying drive mappings. > Directory displays (especially in apps like word & excel) sometimes > take over 10 seconds to display. > Apps like QuickBooks run really slow if the data file is on the > server. > > These problems occur sporadically throughout the day with no > identifiable pattern. Even if there are only 3 or 4 users on the > system (doing basically nothing) these problems arise. > > TROUBLESHOOTING DONE TO DATE > ============================= > Replace NIC in Server > DSRepair & Vrepair > Isolate test users on a separate Netgear 5 port 10/100 switch > Tried running nw client in IPX only mode > Tried running nw client in IP only mode > Tried running nw client with and without post SP1 updates > > Server: > ====== > NetWare sbs v6 (upgraded from 5.1) > Micron Netframe 3400 / P3 700mhz > 512mb RAM > > Switches: > ======== > 2 - Allied Telesyn AT-8124XL (24port 10/100 Managed) > > Workstations: > =========== > Intel D815EEA2L System Board > 256mb RAM > Celeron 900mhz > Novell Client v4.83 SP1 (with post SP1 patches installed) > Integrated 10/100 NIC > Windows XP Pro - SP1 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com Thu Feb 6 05:17:29 2003 From: Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com (Peter Van Lone) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 23:17:29 -0600 Subject: Novell Web Site Message-ID: Also check www.ithowto.com But I'll bet it is op locks and/or nic auto detect ... Also, you don't say how much storage space the server has, but 512 mb is not a lot of ram (that is not it, just an aside ...) -----Original Message----- From: Fred James [mailto:fubarsnafu69 at yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:25 PM To: Novell LAN Interest Group Subject: Re: Novell Web Site works fine for me with mozilla 1.2.1 --- "Steven W. Smith" wrote: > Dave Moon wrote: > >Anyone have problems with Novell's website. We keep getting LInk > broken. > > It seems more broken, er, IE-enhanced than normal lately. Using > either > Netscape or Mozilla, many pages launch into a stupid "404 & reload" > spasm. I've had better luck using IE under Windows, and Konqueror w/ > Linux. > > Example: using Mozilla 1.0.1/Linux, I enter the url > http://www.novell.com/company/advertising/index.html > As it starts loading, the url gets rewritten to > http://www.novell.com/company/advertising/') and goes into the > constantly-reloading-404-page thing. > > HTH > > Steven W. Smith, Systems Programmer > Glendale Community College. Glendale Az. > syssws at gc.maricopa.edu > Did I mention how desperately I want more Nigerian pen pals? > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From fubarsnafu69 at yahoo.com Thu Feb 6 05:23:39 2003 From: fubarsnafu69 at yahoo.com (Fred James) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 21:23:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: GW questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030206052339.64150.qmail@web10703.mail.yahoo.com> GW 5.5 EP Sp5. 1) In the offiles\FD?? folders some of the files have an extension of *.FD? these are date from 1997 & 1998, this was orginally a GW 4.1 system and it would have been at this time frame, this ext are realted to GW 4.1 according to Knowledge base. All of the newer ones have extensions of *.00?, the GW 4.1 was migrated to GW5.2 then to GW5.5 then to GW5.5EP. I can't find any reference to whether or not I still need these files. Add up to about 500MB of space. I have done what the TID say to do about orphaned files but they are still there. I don't need the disk space it is just more annoying than anything else. 2) When the POA starts it creates the directory structure FD00 thru FDFE in the root of PO folder. I traced it to a Library that no longer had its folder present, so I created a folder and then point the library storage area to it restart GW and it created the folder structure for this library, but still created the same folders in the root of the PO. I think at one time there was another library that was removed from the system incorrectly, but not 100% sure. I ran GWcheck with analyse fix library with all options check and this did not fix it. The GWDMS folder under PO as 5 folders called LIB000? it looks like it has the library assign to LIB0005. Anybody have a clue Thanks __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From Nanu at kalmanovitz.co.il Thu Feb 6 06:35:02 2003 From: Nanu at kalmanovitz.co.il (Nanu Calmanovitz) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 08:35:02 +0200 Subject: Hardware: recomandations for SB server Message-ID: Hi! I need recommendations to choose motherboard for a small business server (10 stations). OS will be Netware6 (NSBS). Please let me know your opinion and difference between DDR & SDR. TIA Nanu From rgrein at nwlink.com Thu Feb 6 08:01:04 2003 From: rgrein at nwlink.com (Randy Grein) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 00:01:04 -0800 Subject: Hardware: recomandations for SB server In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <23FEB5BC-39A9-11D7-9F1A-0003937048F0@nwlink.com> On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 10:35 PM, Nanu Calmanovitz wrote: > Hi! > > I need recommendations to choose motherboard for a small business > server (10 stations). OS will be Netware6 (NSBS). > > Please let me know your opinion and difference between DDR & SDR. > > TIA > > Nanu With 10 whole users there are more important things to worry about than the type of memory used. Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA From TIM at nds8.com Thu Feb 6 08:16:53 2003 From: TIM at nds8.com (Tim Heywood) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 08:16:53 +0000 Subject: TCPIP - Domestic or Null Message-ID: The domestic IP stack is only user with BM and even then only with a VPN. No VPN? no need for encyption. Tim ************************* Tim Heywood Scotland (God's Country) Novell Support Connection SYSOP ************************* In theory, practice and theory are the same, In practice they are different! >>> maryve1 at starpower.net 02/06/03 00:18 AM >>> This is probably a stupid question, so please be kind... We are using the domestic TCPIP stack, mostly because I don't understand the difference between it and the null one and I knew we didn't want export. Well the export is no longer a choice anyway. However, I have noticed that Novell recommends using the null version, unless you are running BorderManager. We are using BorderManager 3.6. The question I have is this: We are using the domestic version across the board on all Netware servers. Should we be using domestic on the BorderManager server only and null on the others? Or, should we be consistent about it as we are doing now? We are having some TCPIP related problems (or, shall I say, possibly related), but I don't know if the problems we are having, if related to TCPIP, have to do with running the domestic stack. Nothing is abending. Mostly hiccups and slow response times. Mary _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From Nanu at kalmanovitz.co.il Thu Feb 6 08:00:22 2003 From: Nanu at kalmanovitz.co.il (Nanu Calmanovitz) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 10:00:22 +0200 Subject: Hardware: recomandations for SB server Message-ID: You are right. I need recommendation for a compatible motherboard. My question about the memory derive from the fact that I sawdiferent motherboards wiith diferennt memory types. TIA Nanu >>> rgrein at nwlink.com 06/02/03 10:01AM >>> On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 10:35 PM, Nanu Calmanovitz wrote: > Hi! > > I need recommendations to choose motherboard for a small business > server (10 stations). OS will be Netware6 (NSBS). > > Please let me know your opinion and difference between DDR & SDR. > > TIA > > Nanu With 10 whole users there are more important things to worry about than the type of memory used. Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk Thu Feb 6 10:36:59 2003 From: tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk (Tim Clarke) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 10:36:59 +0000 Subject: Server utilization jumps to 99% every 3 to 5 minutes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030206103329.00aa9228@pop3> "Server:xx" threads belonging to SERVER.NLM. Useful, huh? Dirty cache buffers are hovering around zero but there is fairly constant disk activity. There are only 15 users on this server so our deduction was that disk writes are being held up by the cpu bound process. Only other stuff running is BackupExec 8.5 (I really must go to 9 soon...) and the aforementioned NAV. At 18:43 05/02/2003 -0600, you wrote: >In monitor or IMANAGE, what processes, threads, or NLMs are causing the >high utilization? > >Thanks > >Dana > > >>> tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk 02/05/03 10:32AM >>> >We get this once every two weeks or so. This dstrace didn't yield >anything >- i.e. when util. shot to 99%-100% and stayed there, the dstrace screen > >showed no extraordinary activity. I disabled NAV a while back in the >hope >that it was this and I've read the "high util" tids to no avail. Write > >queue, network queues all show no problems, it's only solved by a >reboot. >I've got a tech here saying that he's googled an article on Dell 2400s >(our >machine is a 2500) that exhibited the issue and attributed it to a >shared >interrupt. I'll let you all know, but if anyone else has any ideas I'd >love >'em to bits... 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From fredpile at tafe.sa.edu.au Thu Feb 6 12:12:10 2003 From: fredpile at tafe.sa.edu.au (Fred Pile) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 22:12:10 +1000 Subject: Shared folder rights In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20030206221210.019f0d28@143.92.27.77> Thanks to those that replied. This will at least stop those drag-and-drop accidents in Windows! I've know of a couple of times where a user with access to multiple shares has dropped one into another, and it has been too late to just "undo". As Gordon said, with these set it will have to be deliberate, and it will have to be someone knowledgable about NW attributes (there will be some, eg. networking lecturing staff), as Windows will not override these. Removing "M" would of course prevent that "workaround", but that is not possible given my original scenario! Regards, Fred. At 16:13 03/02/2003 +1100, gordon.christie at centrelink.gov.au wrote: > > Set the Rename Inhibit and Delete Inhibit flags for the DEPT1, DEPT, etc > directories using the FLAG utility. This will stop them if they don't know > how to remove the flags, it will also mean that it is a deliberate act of > rename if they do, so you just have to let them know that they should not > be changing the name. > > Gordon Christie > Centrelink > Australia. > > > > Fred Pile > du.au> cc: > Sent by: Subject: Shared folder rights > novell-bounces at netl > ab1.usu.edu > > > 03/02/2003 16:15 > Please respond to > Novell LAN Interest > Group > > > > > > > > OK, this is a long question that probably has a simple yes or no answer! > > Our user objects are put into specific departmental containers, and each > container has full [RWCEMF] rights to the matching departmental shared > folder, the contents of which are managed by that department (unless they > are abusing the space to the detriment of other users of that volume!). > > VOL: > + SHARE > + DEPT1 > + DEPT2 > + DEPT3 > > Of course there are some users that work for more than one department, so > they are assigned rights to the shared folders for their "extra" > departments as required, therefore for consistency we map a drive letter > that is common for all users to the "SHARE" folder, rather than the > departmental specific "DEPT1" etc. folder. > > The problem we have seen of late is that with the "M" right users have been > changing the name of their "DEPT1" share folder without asking us (IT), but > if we remove M to prevent this, then this affects their ability to manage > the contents of the folder. > > Is there any combination of rights and masks that will allow share users to > manage the contents of a shared folder without being able modify the root, > ie. they can't rename, move, delete, etc. the "DEPT1" folder, but have full > control over all of the contents therein). We've tried a few combinations, > but based on what I know about FS rights, I don't know if what we want can > be achieved. > > Any help is appreciated! > > Thanks, > Fred. > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > > > > > > Important: This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is confidential, commercially valuable or subject to legal or parliamentary privilege. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that any review, re-transmission, disclosure, use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited by several Commonwealth Acts of Parliament. If you have received this communication in error please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this transmission together with any attachments. > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > From maryve1 at starpower.net Thu Feb 6 11:56:41 2003 From: maryve1 at starpower.net (Mary Van Engelen) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 06:56:41 -0500 Subject: TCPIP - Domestic or Null In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030206065016.02761988@pop.starpower.net> We do have VPN running on BM. So, the difference between domestic and null is the encryption? If so, then it would seem that it would be better to run null on the non-BM servers (less overhead?). Mary At 2/6/2003 03:16 AM, Tim Heywood wrote: >The domestic IP stack is only user with BM and even then only with a >VPN. No VPN? no need for encyption. > >Tim > >************************* >Tim Heywood >Scotland >(God's Country) >Novell Support Connection SYSOP >************************* > >In theory, practice and theory are the same, >In practice they are different! > >>> maryve1 at starpower.net 02/06/03 00:18 AM >>> >This is probably a stupid question, so please be kind... > >We are using the domestic TCPIP stack, mostly because I don't understand > >the difference between it and the null one and I knew we didn't want >export. Well the export is no longer a choice anyway. However, I have >noticed that Novell recommends using the null version, unless you are >running BorderManager. We are using BorderManager 3.6. > >The question I have is this: We are using the domestic version across >the >board on all Netware servers. Should we be using domestic on the >BorderManager server only and null on the others? Or, should we be >consistent about it as we are doing now? > >We are having some TCPIP related problems (or, shall I say, possibly >related), but I don't know if the problems we are having, if related to >TCPIP, have to do with running the domestic stack. Nothing is abending. >Mostly hiccups and slow response times. > >Mary > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From Dave.Bracken at salfordsoftware.co.uk Thu Feb 6 11:58:22 2003 From: Dave.Bracken at salfordsoftware.co.uk (Dave Bracken) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 11:58:22 +0000 Subject: Server utilization jumps to 99% every 3 to 5 minutes Message-ID: --o<-- Tim, Assuming this is as DS issue, I suggest disabling all 3rd party products and turning on the following DSTrace switches. set dstrace=on set dstrace=+min set dstrace=nodebug set dstrace=+sync set dstrace=+in set dstrace=+detail set dstrace=*R set ttf=on See KB for detailed explanations of the switches but in a nutshell, the dstrace switches are set to the defaults, then inbound and outbound events can be monitored, all the baggage (specific attributes) that are behind these events are made available through the +detail switch and are recorded for posterity with the help of ttf (trace to file). Wait for the high util peak, go to the DSTrace screen. Does the peak correspond to the inbound or outbound sync of any particular object or attribute? If so, what are they? After the peak has passed, go back to the console prompt and type the following: set ttf=off set dstrace=off Have a look at the resulting sys:system\dstrace.dbg file. If there are specific object and attributes which correspond to a peak in utilisation, I suggest running the above again just to be sure. If you do this, make a copy of the .dbg file as the *R switch resets the log. Does the second peak correspond to the same objects etc? If so, who was doing the sending and receiving? ZEN workstation related problems as mentioned by other on the list can be identified by running the following command from a cmd prompt. nlist "organizational unit" show "wm:registered workstation" /s /c > c:\problem.txt If the resulting problem.txt file is big, there's one of the problems! Either register the workstations or use DSRepair WM switch (see KB for details). A low number of free blocks on a volume can also cause high utilisation. The KB has a good few tids on this. Dave ------------------------------------------------ Salford Software Ltd, Lancastrian Office Centre, Talbot Road, Old Trafford, Manchester M32 0FP Tel: +44 (0) 161 906 2299 Fax: +44 (0) 161 906 1003 www.salfordsoftware.co.uk ------------------------------------------------ This email is confidential and may contain privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient then you must not copy it, forward it, use it for any purpose, or disclose it to another person. Instead please return it to the sender immediately. Please then delete your copy from your system. Please also note that the author of this email cannot conclude any contract on behalf of Salford Software Ltd by email. From tim at nds8.com Thu Feb 6 11:58:46 2003 From: tim at nds8.com (Tim Heywood) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 11:58:46 +0000 Subject: TCPIP - Domestic or Null Message-ID: Mary, That's right, one only uses the Domestic version (or in the old days the export) on a BM server. adding it to a normal server just increase the overhead. Not much of a problem, but it will slow it all down a bit. Also if you have a BM server that never has, never will do VPN, then you wouldn't need the encryption there either (but we all use it anyway :-)) Tim ************************* Tim Heywood Scotland (God's Country) Novell Support Connection SYSOP ************************* In theory, practice and theory are the same, In practice they are different! >>> maryve1 at starpower.net 06/02/2003 11:56:41 >>> From: maryve1 at starpower.net Sent: Thursday, 06 February, 2003 11:56 To: Novell LAN Interest Group Subject: Re: TCPIP - Domestic or Null Priority: Normal We do have VPN running on BM. So, the difference between domestic and null is the encryption? If so, then it would seem that it would be better to run null on the non-BM servers (less overhead?). Mary At 2/6/2003 03:16 AM, Tim Heywood wrote: >The domestic IP stack is only user with BM and even then only with a >VPN. No VPN? no need for encyption. > >Tim > >************************* >Tim Heywood >Scotland >(God's Country) >Novell Support Connection SYSOP >************************* > >In theory, practice and theory are the same, >In practice they are different! > >>> maryve1 at starpower.net 02/06/03 00:18 AM >>> >This is probably a stupid question, so please be kind... > >We are using the domestic TCPIP stack, mostly because I don't understand > >the difference between it and the null one and I knew we didn't want >export. Well the export is no longer a choice anyway. However, I have >noticed that Novell recommends using the null version, unless you are >running BorderManager. We are using BorderManager 3.6. > >The question I have is this: We are using the domestic version across >the >board on all Netware servers. Should we be using domestic on the >BorderManager server only and null on the others? Or, should we be >consistent about it as we are doing now? > >We are having some TCPIP related problems (or, shall I say, possibly >related), but I don't know if the problems we are having, if related to >TCPIP, have to do with running the domestic stack. Nothing is abending. >Mostly hiccups and slow response times. > >Mary > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk Thu Feb 6 12:13:35 2003 From: tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk (Tim Clarke) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 12:13:35 +0000 Subject: Server utilization jumps to 99% every 3 to 5 minutes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030206121239.0294bb68@pop3> D at mn fine, Dave. We'll give it a go, thanks. At 11:58 06/02/2003 +0000, you wrote: >--o<-- >Tim, >Assuming this is as DS issue, I suggest disabling all 3rd party >products and turning on the following DSTrace switches. > >set dstrace=on >set dstrace=+min >set dstrace=nodebug >set dstrace=+sync >set dstrace=+in >set dstrace=+detail >set dstrace=*R >set ttf=on > >See KB for detailed explanations of the switches but in a nutshell, the >dstrace switches are set to the defaults, then inbound and outbound >events can be monitored, all the baggage (specific attributes) that are >behind these events are made available through the +detail switch and >are recorded for posterity with the help of ttf (trace to file). > >Wait for the high util peak, go to the DSTrace screen. Does the peak >correspond to the inbound or outbound sync of any particular object or >attribute? If so, what are they? > >After the peak has passed, go back to the console prompt and type the >following: > >set ttf=off >set dstrace=off > >Have a look at the resulting sys:system\dstrace.dbg file. If there are >specific object and attributes which correspond to a peak in >utilisation, I suggest running the above again just to be sure. If you >do this, make a copy of the .dbg file as the *R switch resets the log. >Does the second peak correspond to the same objects etc? If so, who was >doing the sending and receiving? > >ZEN workstation related problems as mentioned by other on the list can >be identified by running the following command from a cmd prompt. > >nlist "organizational unit" show "wm:registered workstation" /s /c > >c:\problem.txt > >If the resulting problem.txt file is big, there's one of the problems! >Either register the workstations or use DSRepair WM switch (see KB for >details). > >A low number of free blocks on a volume can also cause high >utilisation. The KB has a good few tids on this. > >Dave > >Salford Software Ltd Tim Clarke AMBCS MIAP IT Director Manifest 9 Freebournes Court Newland Street Witham, Essex CM8 2BL England Phone: +44 1376 503500 Fax: +44 1376 503550 Email: tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk Web: http://www.manifest.co.uk Manifest is the trading name of: Manifest Information Services Ltd: Registered in England Number 3401145 & The Manifest Voting Agency Ltd: Registered in England Number 2920820 Registered Office at above address Copyright: This e-mail may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you are not the named addressee you must not use or disclose such information, instead please report it to administrators at manifest.co.uk Please see http://www.manifest.co.uk/privacy_policy.htm#e-mail for further information. From markperl at earthlink.net Thu Feb 6 13:37:18 2003 From: markperl at earthlink.net (Mark Perlstein) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 05:37:18 -0800 Subject: GW questions In-Reply-To: <20030206052339.64150.qmail@web10703.mail.yahoo.com> References: Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20030206053239.009f77d0@mail.earthlink.net> Places to get his questioned answered, http://www.ngwlist.com and http://support.novell.com/forums/ AT 09:23 PM 2/5/03 -0800, you wrote: >GW 5.5 EP Sp5. > >1) In the offiles\FD?? folders some of the files have an extension of >*.FD? these are date from 1997 & 1998, this was orginally a GW 4.1 >system and it would have been at this time frame, this ext are realted >to GW 4.1 according to Knowledge base. All of the newer ones have >extensions of *.00?, the GW 4.1 was migrated to GW5.2 then to GW5.5 >then to GW5.5EP. I can't find any reference to whether or not I still >need these files. Add up to about 500MB of space. I have done what the >TID say to do about orphaned files but they are still there. I don't >need the disk space it is just more annoying than anything else. > >2) When the POA starts it creates the directory structure FD00 thru >FDFE in the root of PO folder. I traced it to a Library that no longer >had its folder present, so I created a folder and then point the >library storage area to it restart GW and it created the folder >structure for this library, but still created the same folders in the >root of the PO. I think at one time there was another library that was >removed from the system incorrectly, but not 100% sure. I ran GWcheck >with analyse fix library with all options check and this did not fix >it. The GWDMS folder under PO as 5 folders called LIB000? it looks >like it has the library assign to LIB0005. Anybody have a clue > > >Thanks > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. >http://mailplus.yahoo.com >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From admin at iaa.gov.il Thu Feb 6 13:55:44 2003 From: admin at iaa.gov.il (admin at iaa.gov.il) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 15:55:44 +0200 Subject: Error when trying to run apps under Zen4 with a net use (id=53374) Message-ID: Hi all, Ok, another issue. We have some apps that work great under Zen2.5. The apps have a Launch scripts - Run befaure Launcing setup where I am deleting and remapping an nt2k network drive. When I try and run this application under Zen4 (after configuring it (a copied app) under Console1), I get the following error: Could not get needed resources for application [Pd_Or.O_IAA] to be launched (id=53374) Now, I cannot find any reference at all to this error id in the knowledgbase, and I have no idea what the problem could be. Does this have to do with the "Script engine location" which is blank ? Something else ? Anyone encounter this error ? Know what on earth it means and where to point me ? I'd be very appreciative of anything on this. Mike Glassman Head of System Security Computer & Information Systems Israeli Airports Authority Ben-Gurion Airport http://www.ben-gurion-airport.co.il Tel : 972-3-9710785 Fax : 972-3-9710939 Email : admin at iaa.gov.il Usage of this email address or any email address at iaa.gov.il for the purpose of sales pitches, SPAM or any other such unwanted garbage, is illegal, and any person, whether corporate or alone doing so, will be prosecuted to the fullest possible extent. From acquistj at lan.newpaltz.edu Thu Feb 6 13:53:35 2003 From: acquistj at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 08:53:35 -0500 Subject: TCPIP - Domestic or Null Message-ID: What type of hiccups? Tim has addressed the Null/Domestic issue well, so no comment needed. But, slow response and such issues (client32 errors for instance) are most often caused by communications problems. Depending on how your infrastucture is maintained, (translation - internal politics, egos, etc.), it would be quicker to start by checking for duplex mismatches at various ports. Assuming you can't conveniently replace the stack (have to reboot the server) on the servers. In most cases Auto negotiate should never be used, and each side of a connection should be tied down to the same speed and duplex setting. Speed mismatch, of course should show up immediately as no link, but a duplex mismatch might only show up intermittently, depending on load. Sure, this horse has been whipped soundly, but, you never know, for sure, until you look yourself. This topic continues to be dismissed by too many people. For persistent problems, one virtually indisputable method (IMHO)is to take packet traces at both ends of a problem connection. For the financially desperate, ethereal is downloadable and seems to work well. You can setup a laptop or PC at each end (mirror ports or use a proper hub as need be) and build a capture filter, identical, on each, to see only traffic between the questionable server and PC. Initiate some transfer that is know to cause problems. Do this with people at each end in voice contact, so as to start, near as possible, with empty trace buffers. Compare the traces. Start by looking for gross problems, like a mismatch in respective capture traces of hundres or thousands of packets. If there is a gross mismatch, you could almost stop there and go straight to the comms people. Else, you might have to dig deeper. If nothing else, it can serve as an education. Sorry for being long winded. ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- Remember: once, everyone "Knew" the world was flat. --------------------------------------------------- >>> maryve1 at starpower.net 02/05/03 19:08 PM >>> This is probably a stupid question, so please be kind... We are using the domestic TCPIP stack, mostly because I don't understand the difference between it and the null one and I knew we didn't want export. Well the export is no longer a choice anyway. However, I have noticed that Novell recommends using the null version, unless you are running BorderManager. We are using BorderManager 3.6. The question I have is this: We are using the domestic version across the board on all Netware servers. Should we be using domestic on the BorderManager server only and null on the others? Or, should we be consistent about it as we are doing now? We are having some TCPIP related problems (or, shall I say, possibly related), but I don't know if the problems we are having, if related to TCPIP, have to do with running the domestic stack. Nothing is abending. Mostly hiccups and slow response times. Mary _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From cjf at calfrye.com Thu Feb 6 14:21:10 2003 From: cjf at calfrye.com (Cal Frye) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 09:21:10 -0500 Subject: TCPIP - Domestic or Null References: Message-ID: <3E426F56.3080201@calfrye.com> Joe Acquisto wrote: > In most cases Auto negotiate should never be used, and each side of a > connection should be tied down to the same speed and duplex setting. > Speed mismatch, of course should show up immediately as no link, but a > duplex mismatch might only show up intermittently, depending on load. > Just to muddy the waters a bit, we've seen some NICs insist on autonegotiation even when set manually, so we've had to set some switch ports to autonegotiate and remove all the choices but for the desired setting we want. If memory serves, this problem involved Sun servers and Enterasys switches, but this might be a useful trick to keep at hand... -- --Cal Frye, Network Administrator, Oberlin College www.ouuf.org, www.kentuu.org, www.calfrye.com "There are worse crimes than burning books. One of them is not reading them." --Joseph Brodsky (1940-96) From MDunigan at umich.edu Thu Feb 6 14:32:56 2003 From: MDunigan at umich.edu (Michael Dunigan) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 09:32:56 -0500 Subject: SLP Policy with ZEN v3.2 Message-ID: <3E427218.2000507@umich.edu> We have some specific SLP items that need to be set on our Win9x workstations (Scope, DA, Active Discovery off, etc.). We are not currently importing the workstations into NDS. Can ZEN push items like those above to the workstation if the workstation has been imported? How about if the workstation is not imported into NDS? I receive the list in digest form, so a personal reply is appreceiated. Thanks for you assistance. Mike -- ======================================================================= Michael J. Dunigan University of Michigan Phone:(734) 647-3633 MDunigan at umich.edu Office of the Registrar Fax: (734) 936-3148 Member of the Academic Affairs Network Administrators Team ======================================================================= From DPRILL at nwhealth.edu Thu Feb 6 15:11:15 2003 From: DPRILL at nwhealth.edu (Dan Prill) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 09:11:15 -0600 Subject: Novell Account Management - worth it? Message-ID: I'm looking for opinions from anyone who is familiar with Novell Account Management 3.0. We are implementing a new ERP system here which will require that about 50 of our 250 users be able to access a Windows 2000 server. I've been looking through the documentation for NAM and am wondering if it is going to be overkill for a user base of our size. We have four Netware 6.0 servers running Edirectory 8.6.2. Anyone have any experience or opinions you'd care to share? The cost of the software itself isn't an issue since it is a part of our ALA. Thanks in advance for any input. Dan Prill Network/System Administrator Northwestern Health Sciences University Bloomington, MN From rgrein at nwlink.com Thu Feb 6 15:20:23 2003 From: rgrein at nwlink.com (Randy Grein) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:20:23 -0800 Subject: TCPIP - Domestic or Null In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8357C17E-39E6-11D7-9F1A-0003937048F0@nwlink.com> On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 05:53 AM, Joe Acquisto wrote: > What type of hiccups? > > Tim has addressed the Null/Domestic issue well, so no comment needed. > > But, slow response and such issues (client32 errors for instance) are > most often caused by communications problems. > > Depending on how your infrastucture is maintained, (translation - > internal politics, egos, etc.), it would be quicker to start by > checking > for duplex mismatches at various ports. Assuming you can't > conveniently > replace the stack (have to reboot the server) on the servers. > > In most cases Auto negotiate should never be used, and each side of a > connection should be tied down to the same speed and duplex setting. > Speed mismatch, of course should show up immediately as no link, but a > duplex mismatch might only show up intermittently, depending on load. > > Sure, this horse has been whipped soundly, but, you never know, for > sure, until you look yourself. This topic continues to be dismissed by > too many people. > > For persistent problems, one virtually indisputable method (IMHO)is to > take packet traces at both ends of a problem connection. For the > financially desperate, ethereal is downloadable and seems to work well. > You can setup a laptop or PC at each end (mirror ports or use a proper > hub as need be) and build a capture filter, identical, on each, to see > only traffic between the questionable server and PC. Initiate some > transfer that is know to cause problems. Do this with people at each > end in voice contact, so as to start, near as possible, with empty > trace > buffers. Compare the traces. Start by looking for gross problems, > like > a mismatch in respective capture traces of hundres or thousands of > packets. If there is a gross mismatch, you could almost stop there and > go straight to the comms people. Else, you might have to dig deeper. > If nothing else, it can serve as an education. > > Sorry for being long winded. > Excellent points Joe. I'll add a snippet to this, as this is one of my major infrastructure problems and customer education has been tough: Fluke has an excellent book on the subject of basic analysis that covers auto negotiation VERY well. It is short, approachable and definitive - everything you need in a book of this type. The author writes many of Fluke's network diagnostics manuals and is working on an update - I'm quite excited, as the working copy I have been privileged to review is even better than the first. I won't attempt to muddy the waters further with personal experience, except to say that in nearly every case of poor network performance I have been called in to investigate turns out to be a duplex mismatch problem. The remaining are either gross bandwidth issues or slow disk channels masquerading as network problems. Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA From maryve1 at starpower.net Thu Feb 6 15:20:33 2003 From: maryve1 at starpower.net (Mary Van Engelen) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 10:20:33 -0500 Subject: TCPIP - Domestic or Null In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030206095039.01f58620@pop.starpower.net> We've been working on the duplex issue as far as the workstations are concerned. All servers have been set at half duplex for a couple of years. Help Desk staff keep dropping their part in getting the workstations configured. So I am now having daily checks with them to keep them on top of it. They are having to visit every machine and fix it. We finally figured out that we could go ahead and set the switch ports without causing immediate problems for PCs not yet changed. So we've done that. What brought all of this up? We were getting lots of "Tree or server not found" errors on login mostly on Win2K computers, which we began rolling out a few months ago. We are seeing fewer of them as we get through this project of setting everything to half duplex. One TCPIP related problem is duplicate IP addresses. This came to a head a couple of days ago when a presentation was interrupted by a duplicate IP address error message (they've been told not to stay logged into the network when giving presentations, but do they listen?). I patched DHCPSRVR to 3.12c and we still get them. I have more than enough IP addresses in the DHCP ranges, but the second range is not continuing past the 31st address. Another issue is a continuing problem between the primary and secondary domains on our GroupWise servers. The primary domain keeps saying that the secondary domain is closed and then open ("Domain now closed", "Domain now open") within a few seconds. It happens at sporadic intervals, but continues throughout the day. And we are experiencing some "transfer delayed" with internal GW messages going to the internal listserver which I believe are related to this domain problem. This is all happening at a time when I have two cabling projects going on (and new cablers who are not paying attention to my requirements), iFolder rollout, BM VPN rollout to selected staff and auditors on the way. Aren't you glad you asked? Mary At 2/6/2003 08:53 AM, Joe Acquisto wrote: >What type of hiccups? > >Tim has addressed the Null/Domestic issue well, so no comment needed. > >But, slow response and such issues (client32 errors for instance) are >most often caused by communications problems. > >Depending on how your infrastucture is maintained, (translation - >internal politics, egos, etc.), it would be quicker to start by checking >for duplex mismatches at various ports. Assuming you can't conveniently >replace the stack (have to reboot the server) on the servers. > >In most cases Auto negotiate should never be used, and each side of a >connection should be tied down to the same speed and duplex setting. >Speed mismatch, of course should show up immediately as no link, but a >duplex mismatch might only show up intermittently, depending on load. > >Sure, this horse has been whipped soundly, but, you never know, for >sure, until you look yourself. This topic continues to be dismissed by >too many people. > >For persistent problems, one virtually indisputable method (IMHO)is to >take packet traces at both ends of a problem connection. For the >financially desperate, ethereal is downloadable and seems to work well. >You can setup a laptop or PC at each end (mirror ports or use a proper >hub as need be) and build a capture filter, identical, on each, to see >only traffic between the questionable server and PC. Initiate some >transfer that is know to cause problems. Do this with people at each >end in voice contact, so as to start, near as possible, with empty trace >buffers. Compare the traces. Start by looking for gross problems, like >a mismatch in respective capture traces of hundres or thousands of >packets. If there is a gross mismatch, you could almost stop there and >go straight to the comms people. Else, you might have to dig deeper. >If nothing else, it can serve as an education. > >Sorry for being long winded. >----------------------------------------- >Joe Acquisto >SUNY New Paltz >845-257-3134 (V) >845-257-6900 (F) >--------------------------------------------------- >Remember: once, everyone >"Knew" the world was flat. >--------------------------------------------------- > > >>> maryve1 at starpower.net 02/05/03 19:08 PM >>> >This is probably a stupid question, so please be kind... > >We are using the domestic TCPIP stack, mostly because I don't understand > >the difference between it and the null one and I knew we didn't want >export. Well the export is no longer a choice anyway. However, I have >noticed that Novell recommends using the null version, unless you are >running BorderManager. We are using BorderManager 3.6. > >The question I have is this: We are using the domestic version across >the >board on all Netware servers. Should we be using domestic on the >BorderManager server only and null on the others? Or, should we be >consistent about it as we are doing now? > >We are having some TCPIP related problems (or, shall I say, possibly >related), but I don't know if the problems we are having, if related to >TCPIP, have to do with running the domestic stack. Nothing is abending. >Mostly hiccups and slow response times. > >Mary > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From admin at iaa.gov.il Thu Feb 6 15:56:16 2003 From: admin at iaa.gov.il (admin at iaa.gov.il) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 17:56:16 +0200 Subject: Novell Account Management - worth it? Message-ID: Well, I can tell you this. We have an open incident with Novell on AM3 which has been open for close to three weeks and is now in Engineerings hands. It installs fine. Now try and sync a user between eDir and AD, or vica versa and no way hoze (as is said). It creats the users, but that's it. It won't sync anything, not the password, not parameters, nothing. We'v had Novell in here online for hours with no luck, we'v had beta patches, no luck. So I can only wish you luck. I know it will work...eventually. And since we need it here, we'r waiting. That's what I have for you so far. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Dan Prill [mailto:DPRILL at nwhealth.edu] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 5:11 PM To: Novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: Novell Account Management - worth it? I'm looking for opinions from anyone who is familiar with Novell Account Management 3.0. We are implementing a new ERP system here which will require that about 50 of our 250 users be able to access a Windows 2000 server. I've been looking through the documentation for NAM and am wondering if it is going to be overkill for a user base of our size. We have four Netware 6.0 servers running Edirectory 8.6.2. Anyone have any experience or opinions you'd care to share? The cost of the software itself isn't an issue since it is a part of our ALA. Thanks in advance for any input. Dan Prill Network/System Administrator Northwestern Health Sciences University Bloomington, MN _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From bud at moldriteplastics.com Thu Feb 6 16:04:46 2003 From: bud at moldriteplastics.com (Bud Durland) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 11:04:46 -0500 Subject: Novell Account Management - worth it? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3E42879E.8020204@moldriteplastics.com> Dan Prill wrote: >I'm looking for opinions from anyone who is familiar with Novell Account >Management 3.0. We are implementing a new ERP system here which will >require that about 50 of our 250 users be able to access a Windows 2000 >server. > We're in much the same boat, but smaller: 2 NE5.1/SP5/eDir8.6.2 servers, 1 Win2K/SQL server, 75 users accessing both boxes. I downloaded and tested Synchronicity for NT (http://netvision.com/products/synchronicity.html). It worked pretty well, and the price was about half that of NAM. It plugs into NWADMIN, and although the interface takes a bit of getting used to (and may have been easier if I actually RTFM'd), I was impressed with how easy it made the process. I set it up as a one-way "push" -- as users were created in eDir, or as eDir passwords changed, they propogated to the Win2k boxen. It has granularity to allow you to tell it who gets propogated to Windows, and who doesn't. We'll likely buy it, just waiting for budget $$$ -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Pinky, are you pondering whay I'm pondering?" "I think so, Brain, but really, me and Pippi Longstockings? I mean, what would the children look like?" ------------------------------------------------------------------- Bud Durland, CNE Mold-Rite Plastics Network Administrator http://www.mrpcap.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- From Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com Thu Feb 6 16:12:55 2003 From: Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com (Peter Van Lone) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:12:55 -0600 Subject: Novell Account Management - worth it? Message-ID: Bud -- I'm a little bit confused about the pricing you have seen for netvision -- It looks to be a totally cool product, and I think if we decide we need that functionality we will go with it, but .....I was talking to a sales rep from there and the price is $18 per user, whcich is about dead on competetive with NAM. Also, another alternative for a small shop: Novell's DirXML Password Synch for Windows. It is available free if you own Zen for Desktops 4 (I'm not sure of the price otherwise). We are looking at this now, and hoping it works so we don't need NAM or Synchroniicty ..... Really creating 200 or so users is not that big a deal -- and may not require a NAM sort of solution. But keepingf those passwords synched would sure be nice ...... -----Original Message----- From: Bud Durland [mailto:bud at moldriteplastics.com] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 10:05 AM To: Novell LAN Interest Group Subject: Re: Novell Account Management - worth it? Dan Prill wrote: >I'm looking for opinions from anyone who is familiar with Novell >Account Management 3.0. We are implementing a new ERP system here which >will require that about 50 of our 250 users be able to access a Windows >2000 server. > We're in much the same boat, but smaller: 2 NE5.1/SP5/eDir8.6.2 servers, 1 Win2K/SQL server, 75 users accessing both boxes. I downloaded and tested Synchronicity for NT (http://netvision.com/products/synchronicity.html). It worked pretty well, and the price was about half that of NAM. It plugs into NWADMIN, and although the interface takes a bit of getting used to (and may have been easier if I actually RTFM'd), I was impressed with how easy it made the process. I set it up as a one-way "push" -- as users were created in eDir, or as eDir passwords changed, they propogated to the Win2k boxen. It has granularity to allow you to tell it who gets propogated to Windows, and who doesn't. We'll likely buy it, just waiting for budget $$$ -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Pinky, are you pondering whay I'm pondering?" "I think so, Brain, but really, me and Pippi Longstockings? I mean, what would the children look like?" ------------------------------------------------------------------- Bud Durland, CNE Mold-Rite Plastics Network Administrator http://www.mrpcap.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From jgroetsema at uop.edu Thu Feb 6 16:22:39 2003 From: jgroetsema at uop.edu (Jeff Groetsema) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 08:22:39 -0800 Subject: Server utilization jumps to 99% every 3 to 5 minutes Message-ID: In my case it's alwasy SERVER xx. >>> zzz at mctc.mnscu.edu 02/05/03 04:43PM >>> In monitor or IMANAGE, what processes, threads, or NLMs are causing the high utilization? Thanks Dana >>> tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk 02/05/03 10:32AM >>> We get this once every two weeks or so. This dstrace didn't yield anything - i.e. when util. shot to 99%-100% and stayed there, the dstrace screen showed no extraordinary activity. I disabled NAV a while back in the hope that it was this and I've read the "high util" tids to no avail. Write queue, network queues all show no problems, it's only solved by a reboot. I've got a tech here saying that he's googled an article on Dell 2400s (our machine is a 2500) that exhibited the issue and attributed it to a shared interrupt. I'll let you all know, but if anyone else has any ideas I'd love 'em to bits... At 20:04 29/01/2003 -0600, you wrote: >Do you have Zen For Desktops and registered workstations in the tree? If >so, one of those workstations could have a virus or bad winsock or >something. On the server going to high utilization do this; > >Set dstrace=on >set dstrace=+dsa > >Toggle to the DS trace screen you will see the workstation generating all >the traffic. That is if you have registered workstations. > >And are your Service Processes climbing? > >Joe Wardzala Tim Clarke AMBCS MIAP IT Director Manifest 9 Freebournes Court Newland Street Witham, Essex CM8 2BL England Phone: +44 1376 503500 Fax: +44 1376 503550 Email: tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk Web: http://www.manifest.co.uk Manifest is the trading name of: Manifest Information Services Ltd: Registered in England Number 3401145 & The Manifest Voting Agency Ltd: Registered in England Number 2920820 Registered Office at above address Copyright: This e-mail may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you are not the named addressee you must not use or disclose such information, instead please report it to administrators at manifest.co.uk Please see http://www.manifest.co.uk/privacy_policy.htm#e-mail for further information. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From jgroetsema at uop.edu Thu Feb 6 16:38:11 2003 From: jgroetsema at uop.edu (Jeff Groetsema) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 08:38:11 -0800 Subject: Server utilization jumps to 99% every 3 to 5 minutes Message-ID: My server exhibits the same thing. If it was a disk writes issue, I would expect dirty cache buffers to be high since that's were any delayed disk write information would be stored. If you can, web into the NetWare Management Portal and select Profiling & Debug Information. While your experiencing the high utilization, click on the SERVER xx listing under Thread Name. Compare this to the listing attached to my original post. If you can't find that, send me an E-mail and I'll send you a copy. >From my listing it basically looks like the server is doing NDS stuff then disk stuff and then TCP stuff (please forgive my technical lingo). Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu >>> tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk 02/06/03 02:36AM >>> "Server:xx" threads belonging to SERVER.NLM. Useful, huh? Dirty cache buffers are hovering around zero but there is fairly constant disk activity. There are only 15 users on this server so our deduction was that disk writes are being held up by the cpu bound process. Only other stuff running is BackupExec 8.5 (I really must go to 9 soon...) and the aforementioned NAV. At 18:43 05/02/2003 -0600, you wrote: >In monitor or IMANAGE, what processes, threads, or NLMs are causing the >high utilization? > >Thanks > >Dana > > >>> tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk 02/05/03 10:32AM >>> >We get this once every two weeks or so. This dstrace didn't yield >anything >- i.e. when util. shot to 99%-100% and stayed there, the dstrace screen > >showed no extraordinary activity. I disabled NAV a while back in the >hope >that it was this and I've read the "high util" tids to no avail. Write > >queue, network queues all show no problems, it's only solved by a >reboot. >I've got a tech here saying that he's googled an article on Dell 2400s >(our >machine is a 2500) that exhibited the issue and attributed it to a >shared >interrupt. I'll let you all know, but if anyone else has any ideas I'd >love >'em to bits... Tim Clarke AMBCS MIAP IT Director Manifest 9 Freebournes Court Newland Street Witham, Essex CM8 2BL England Phone: +44 1376 503500 Fax: +44 1376 503550 Email: tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk Web: http://www.manifest.co.uk Manifest is the trading name of: Manifest Information Services Ltd: Registered in England Number 3401145 & The Manifest Voting Agency Ltd: Registered in England Number 2920820 Registered Office at above address Copyright: This e-mail may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you are not the named addressee you must not use or disclose such information, instead please report it to administrators at manifest.co.uk Please see http://www.manifest.co.uk/privacy_policy.htm#e-mail for further information. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From bud at moldriteplastics.com Thu Feb 6 17:24:35 2003 From: bud at moldriteplastics.com (Bud Durland) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 12:24:35 -0500 Subject: Novell Account Management - worth it? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3E429A53.7060707@moldriteplastics.com> Peter Van Lone wrote: >Bud -- > >I'm a little bit confused about the pricing you have seen for netvision >-- > >It looks to be a totally cool product, and I think if we decide we need >that functionality we will go with it, but .....I was talking to a sales >rep from there and the price is $18 per user, whcich is about dead on >competetive with NAM. > I got a quote back in September from my Novell Sales rep for "Account Management Suite V 3", sku 973-000196-001, for $54 per user. Much higher than the NetVision product. You maybe getting better volume pricing, or maybe the "suite" tag drives the price up. It might be worth another call to my Novell rep. I can't use the DirXML product; no ZenWorks here other than the starter pack that came with NetWare 5.1 -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Pinky, are you pondering whay I'm pondering?" "I think so, Brain, but really, me and Pippi Longstockings? I mean, what would the children look like?" ------------------------------------------------------------------- Bud Durland, CNE Mold-Rite Plastics Network Administrator http://www.mrpcap.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- From hyphen at canada.com Thu Feb 6 17:19:36 2003 From: hyphen at canada.com (alex veronac) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 09:19:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: NWClient mapping errors but GWClient OK(?) Message-ID: <20030206091937.25601.h010.c009.wm@mail.canada.com.criticalpath.net> We're getting the occasional User with a problem of not logging in properly(code 8901) with MAPping errors with the NT client but GWClient connects OK. Almost sounds like IPX ain't working right as we IP login to the PO. Anyone else getting this?. it's not licensing as suggested in TID10067152 We're running NW6SP2. I've been patching client v4.83 with betas now. Login is fine under Win98. Any thoughts? _hyphen __________________________________________________________ Get your FREE personalized e-mail at http://www.canada.com From Dave.Bracken at salfordsoftware.co.uk Thu Feb 6 17:43:29 2003 From: Dave.Bracken at salfordsoftware.co.uk (Dave Bracken) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 17:43:29 +0000 Subject: Server utilization jumps to 99% every 3 to 5 minutes Message-ID: >>> tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk 2/6/2003 12:13:35 >>> > D at mn fine, Dave. We'll give it a go, thanks. Please let the list know how you get on. You might also want to consider feeding a config report (using the latest config nlm which generate xml reports) into Novell's latest and greatest config analyser and taking note of what it finds. This recently released config tool is absolutely brilliant (some would say it's the dog's danglies), I think it's the best bit of software to come from Novell since the last NetMail release which in itself was the best since ... oh, something a long time ago. Details can be found at http://www.npsh.hu/analyzer_en.html Dave ------------------------------------------------ Salford Software Ltd, Lancastrian Office Centre, Talbot Road, Old Trafford, Manchester M32 0FP Tel: +44 (0) 161 906 2299 Fax: +44 (0) 161 906 1003 www.salfordsoftware.co.uk ------------------------------------------------ This email is confidential and may contain privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient then you must not copy it, forward it, use it for any purpose, or disclose it to another person. Instead please return it to the sender immediately. Please then delete your copy from your system. Please also note that the author of this email cannot conclude any contract on behalf of Salford Software Ltd by email. From DPRILL at nwhealth.edu Thu Feb 6 18:14:03 2003 From: DPRILL at nwhealth.edu (Dan Prill) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 12:14:03 -0600 Subject: Novell Account Management - worth it? Message-ID: DirXML Password Sync sounds like it may be a better alternative for us, since we do run ZfD4 here. The more I read about NAM the more I feel that I'll spend more time planning, installing and configuring it than it would take me to manually administer 50 users on a 2000 box. Thanks for the suggestion. >>> Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com 02/06/03 10:12AM >>> Also, another alternative for a small shop: Novell's DirXML Password Synch for Windows. It is available free if you own Zen for Desktops 4 (I'm not sure of the price otherwise). We are looking at this now, and hoping it works so we don't need NAM or Synchroniicty ..... Really creating 200 or so users is not that big a deal -- and may not require a NAM sort of solution. But keepingf those passwords synched would sure be nice ...... From Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com Thu Feb 6 19:07:15 2003 From: Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com (Peter Van Lone) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 13:07:15 -0600 Subject: Novell Account Management - worth it? Message-ID: Bud - I think the $54 is for a collection of platforms. The NAM 3 for Windows platform is just $18 /user list. You should be able to get it cheaper from a reseller. pvl -----Original Message----- From: Bud Durland [mailto:bud at moldriteplastics.com] Sent: Thu 2/6/2003 11:24 AM To: Novell LAN Interest Group Cc: Subject: Re: Novell Account Management - worth it? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I gave up all hope a long time ago and all our users are now Administrators of their machines (yuck!). -- Toomas Aas | toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee | http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/ * Would a fly without wings be called a walk? From Matthew.Moncaster at circle33.org Thu Feb 6 19:29:45 2003 From: Matthew.Moncaster at circle33.org (Matthew Moncaster) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 19:29:45 +0000 Subject: Error when trying to run apps under Zen4 with a net use (id= Message-ID: Or it could be just that the *application* needs to run as the System user. I have ZfD3 not 4 so these instructions may be wrong - but try in console1 going to the Run Options/Environment tab/Execuatble security level section. It defaults to "None". If the app doesn't need a UI but does need full registry rights use Run as Secure System User. If it does need a UI as well, or the former doesn't work, try Run as Unsecure System User. Regards Matt Matthew Moncaster Central Systems Administrator Circle 33 Housing Group 1-7 Corsica Street London N5 1JG Direct line (020) 7288 4195 To log IT problems call (020) 7288 4015 >>> toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee 6/2/2003 19:14:43 >>> Hi! > When I try and run this application under Zen4 (after configuring it (a > copied app) under Console1), I get the following error: > > Could not get needed resources for application [Pd_Or.O_IAA] to be > launched (id=53374) Sounds like a permissions problem. Are you running the application as Administrator of the local machine? If not, give it a try and if it succeeds you'll have a joyous task of trying to find out what file or registry hive is causing the problem. I gave up all hope a long time ago and all our users are now Administrators of their machines (yuck!). -- Toomas Aas | toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee | http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/ * Would a fly without wings be called a walk? _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: InterScan_Disclaimer.txt URL: From acquistj at lan.newpaltz.edu Thu Feb 6 19:48:34 2003 From: acquistj at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 14:48:34 -0500 Subject: TCPIP - Domestic or Null Message-ID: >Fluke has an excellent book on the subject of basic >analysis that covers auto negotiation VERY well. It >is short, approachable and definitive - everything >you need in a book of this type. >. . . >Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA Where can I find this book? Downloadable? joea/ ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- Remember: once, everyone "Knew" the world was flat. --------------------------------------------------- From skiphefel at advanced-data.com Thu Feb 6 19:56:07 2003 From: skiphefel at advanced-data.com (Skip Hefel) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 13:56:07 -0600 Subject: NDS 7.x to eDir 85.27c upgrade guidelines Message-ID: <2C2609144800D611A50A006008F61227018113C8@AXIAL.advanced-data.com> ############################################################# This was in a nutshell an old internal document that I had created last summer for upgrading 20 Novell 5.1 servers that all ran 7.55a to eDir 85.27c. Upgrading NDS from 7.xx to eDirectory Upgrading NDS can sometimes be as simple as running an update patch to an existing version, or doing an upgrade to a later version. Or it can be as complex as going from one database format to a totally new format making the process a little more nerve-racking. So above all, it is imperative that you have an understanding of NDS, the whole upgrade process and repercussions of an upgrade blowup and having your plans on how to recover from a upgrade gone wrong. Be sure to search the Novell Support connection for your existing network state and for what the ultimate goal is to have your network state at. First thing to perform the basic NDS health check TID #10060600 and perform the basic NDS health checks recommended by Novell on the server holding the Master of the [Root] partition. Also prior to doing the upgrade, a recommended process is to be sure the back link process is clean of any bad external references. (Also I have the documentation on NDS health checks that NetVision wrote up as written for Novell Users International partner site. www.nuinet.com) Is NICI up to date on the server? Update to the version 2.01. Apply Wsock4G.exe minimum to the server. Server should have the JVM 1.2.2 version minimum. Apply the PreDS8a fix. This provides some database conversion files that ensure a error free migration. Apply the PREeDirF.exe fix to prepare the server and all other DS7.xx servers. This will have the minimum version of DSREPAIR.nlm's to ensure maintaining the Schema updates after the migration on any other DS7.xx servers. Perform the Schema checks as prescribed in the health checks. Perform Post Netware 5 Schema updates by doing the following: From the Master of the [Root], DsRepair -A | Advanced Options Menu | Global Schema Operations | Select Post NetWare 5 Schema Enhancements AND Optional Schema Enhancements Check NDS Health checks as prescribed on TID # 10012858 Check the Hostname of the server and Hosts files in the \ETC directory for correctness. Perform a PKIdiag.nlm to correct any SSL and SAS object issues. Look at log in the \ETC\Certificates\*.logs. Using the DSBrowse.nlm that came with PREeDirF.exe, perform the following TID#10065372 to be sure Schema has correct values in the Case Ignore String attributes. Make sure that you have a good backup, and maybe even run the Tbackup.exe to make a trustee backup of the trustees on the server's volumes. REMARK out non-standard modules such as virus scanners, ZenWorks, etc Reboot the server. Make sure all connections and timesync is good with the ring. Run DSREPAIR. Backup NDS to a file and transfer it to a workstation. DSREPAIR -RC ( the files will be as follows: DS 7.x is SYS:\System\dsrepair.dib. On DS 8.x is SYS:\DSR_DIB\00000000.$DU Apply the eDir 8512 upgrade. Server may need to be rebooted a couple of times. You may need to Re-Install JAVA JVM 1.3.1 as it may have back revved to 1.2d. Reboot server. Observe that everything appears ok and is stable. Apply the eDir v8523 update to the server. Beboot Apply the eDir v85.27c update to server. Reboot, observe that everything is OK. Un remark all non-standard NLM's that were remarked out earlier. Reboot server and observe that everything is now running. Server should be looking good and stable. ***** Nutshell *** -Hostname -Corrected server with a time zone, and other timesync configuration. -Used document on ITWeb for upgrading NDS to eDirectory using an advanced search on Google for "upgrading to NDS 85.xx" and got a document that addressed upgrading from 8.77 to eDirectory -Upgraded Java Virtual Machine to 1.3.1 from 1.17 -Applied PreDS8a -Rebooted -Installed eDir 85.12 upgrade -Applied 85.23 -Applied 85.27c -Server as successfully upgraded to NDS 85.27c same as all other servers. This will minimize obituaries, NDS synchronization issues etc. ############################################################ From sklemetti at softhome.net Thu Feb 6 20:17:53 2003 From: sklemetti at softhome.net (Steve Klemetti) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 15:17:53 -0500 Subject: Arcserve 7 Login problems References: Message-ID: <3E42C2F1.91280ACE@softhome.net> I got it to work. I don't know how. I was changing things on the server with IPX and it worked. Bob Brownell wrote: > A few things that worked for me in a test environment with NW6 and > Arcserve 9 may give you a lead on a solution. > > I had to have at least SP1 on NW6 > Workstation client at least 4.83 > And, entries in windows hosts file of management pc containing target > server and it's ip address > > Good luck, > Bob > > >>> sklemetti at softhome.net 02/03/03 04:44PM >>> > Netware 6 with Arcserve 7 and the patches. > > I run the manager, click on the Backup Manager and it presents a > Security dialog box. I enter the admin user and password using the > full > name. Then it returns the message > > Server KCIBUFX failed to authenticate the user .cn=admin.o=kci (EC=-1) > Please verify that the user name & password is correct. > > On Cai.com there is a technical document about that but it says to > bind > IPX to the server. IPX is bound to the server. > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From John at coastal.edu Thu Feb 6 20:47:59 2003 From: John at coastal.edu (John Hanna) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 15:47:59 -0500 Subject: Novell Web Site In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <004901c2ce21$0c1d88e0$041478c7@ccu03722> Excuse my ignorance here. What is Op locks? >-----Original Message----- >From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu >[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Peter Van Lone >Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 12:17 AM >To: Novell LAN Interest Group >Subject: RE: Novell Web Site > > >Also check www.ithowto.com > >But I'll bet it is op locks and/or nic auto detect ... > >Also, you don't say how much storage space the server has, but >512 mb is not a lot of ram (that is not it, just an aside ...) > >-----Original Message----- >From: Fred James [mailto:fubarsnafu69 at yahoo.com] >Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:25 PM >To: Novell LAN Interest Group >Subject: Re: Novell Web Site > >works fine for me with mozilla 1.2.1 > > >--- "Steven W. Smith" wrote: >> Dave Moon wrote: >> >Anyone have problems with Novell's website. We keep getting LInk >> broken. >> >> It seems more broken, er, IE-enhanced than normal lately. Using >> either Netscape or Mozilla, many pages launch into a stupid "404 & >> reload" spasm. I've had better luck using IE under Windows, and >> Konqueror w/ Linux. >> >> Example: using Mozilla 1.0.1/Linux, I enter the url >> http://www.novell.com/company/advertising/index.html >> As it starts loading, the url gets rewritten to >> http://www.novell.com/company/advertising/') and goes into the >> constantly-reloading-404-page thing. >> >> HTH >> >> Steven W. Smith, Systems Programmer >> Glendale Community College. Glendale Az. syssws at gc.maricopa.edu >> Did I mention how desperately I want more Nigerian pen pals? >> _______________________________________________ >> Novell mailing list >> Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >> http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From dtran at ssc.ucla.edu Thu Feb 6 20:53:04 2003 From: dtran at ssc.ucla.edu (Daniel Tran) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 12:53:04 -0800 Subject: More on File Synchronization In-Reply-To: <01KRWJMZYW36AYKK8R@cc.usu.edu> Message-ID: <000f01c2ce21$be3e45f0$49e56180@hp1> Just a follow up on previous discussions of file synchronization. Rsync was on of the product mentioned. Today, I follow Dave Bracken's link to http://www.npsh.hu/analyzer_en.html and saw a product called Sync Center 1.22. I decided to download and test it out. So far it has been quite easy and simple to configure. It took me about 10 minutes to configure a sync job from a netware 5.0 to a netware 6.0 server. The job is configured to go without any bandwidth restriction (35GB to sync). Netware source server hovers at 10-15% and 10% for the target. The product is simple and easy to use. Just want to share this info to the list. Daniel - dtran at ssc.ucla.edu From MSMITH at col-westanglia.ac.uk Thu Feb 6 21:06:27 2003 From: MSMITH at col-westanglia.ac.uk (Martyn Smith) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 21:06:27 +0000 Subject: Server utilization jumps to 99% every 3 to 5 minutes Message-ID: <1044565587.bad2de00MSMITH@col-westanglia.ac.uk> Sounds like this is getting to be a common issue - I have had this on two servers in the past two days. One is a Dell 6300 and the other a Dell 2500... Dirty cache buffers and disk writes are through the floor from what these servers can cope with (both dual processor - P0 is displaying the bad utilisation) Network activity is through the floor and NDS synch activity is low. Highest profile is again Server.00 (in a suspended state which takes up approx 75% of the processor time). >From what I can see from thread server.xx it does not appear to coincide with any of the above threads - though in both servers I have had tape drives playing up. I have now removed one from one server and just rebooted the other - just to help isolate the issue (incase this is not just random chance). As a matter of interest I have taken both these servers to warm boot after this issue and re Dell's diags with varying degrees of success (lock-ups when loading the diags). Cold boot then diags run fine. I know could mean nothing due to information left in memory - however all service routines should be handled by DOS (Dell Open Manage Utils still run under this)... Martyn Smith IT Network Coordinator The College of West Anglia Tennyson Avenue Kings Lynn Norfolk UK PE30 2QW Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 08:38:11 -0800 From: "Jeff Groetsema" To: Subject: RE: Server utilization jumps to 99% every 3 to 5 minutes Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Reply-To: Novell LAN Interest Group Message: 11 My server exhibits the same thing. If it was a disk writes issue, I would ?0D expect dirty cache buffers to be high since that's were any delayed disk = write information would be stored. If you can, web into the NetWare Management Portal and select Profiling & = Debug Information. While your experiencing the high utilization, click on = the SERVER xx listing under Thread Name. Compare this to the listing = attached to my original post. If you can't find that, send me an E-mail = and I'll send you a copy. >From my listing it basically looks like the server is doing NDS stuff then = disk stuff and then TCP stuff (please forgive my technical lingo). Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu >>> tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk 02/06/03 02:36AM >>> "Server:xx" threads belonging to SERVER.NLM. Useful, huh? Dirty cache buffers are hovering around zero but there is fairly constant disk activity. There are only 15 users on this server so our deduction was that disk writes are being held up by the cpu bound process. Only other stuff running is BackupExec 8.5 (I really must go to 9 soon...) and the aforementioned NAV. At 18:43 05/02/2003 -0600, you wrote: >In monitor or IMANAGE, what processes, threads, or NLMs are causing the >high utilization? > >Thanks > >Dana > > >>> tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk 02/05/03 10:32AM >>> >We get this once every two weeks or so. This dstrace didn't yield >anything >- i.e. when util. shot to 99%-100% and stayed there, the dstrace screen > >showed no extraordinary activity. I disabled NAV a while back in the >hope >that it was this and I've read the "high util" tids to no avail. Write > >queue, network queues all show no problems, it's only solved by a >reboot. >I've got a tech here saying that he's googled an article on Dell 2400s >(our >machine is a 2500) that exhibited the issue and attributed it to a >shared >interrupt. I'll let you all know, but if anyone else has any ideas I'd >love >'em to bits... Tim Clarke AMBCS MIAP IT Director Manifest 9 Freebournes Court Newland Street Witham, Essex CM8 2BL England Phone: +44 1376 503500 Fax: +44 1376 503550 Email: tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk Web: http://www.manifest.co.uk=20 Manifest is the trading name of: Manifest Information Services Ltd: Registered in England Number 3401145 & The Manifest Voting Agency Ltd: Registered in England Number 2920820 Registered Office at above address Copyright: This e-mail may contain confidential or legally privileged=20 information. If you are not the named addressee you must not use or=20 disclose such information, instead please report it to=20 administrators at manifest.co.uk Please see http://www.manifest.co.uk/privacy_policy.htm#e-mail for = further=20 information.=20 _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu=20 http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell ------------------------------ Martyn Smith Network Coordinator The College of West Anglia 44-(0)1553 761144 ext 327 http://www.col-westanglia.ac.uk/ pgp key available on request From toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee Thu Feb 6 21:06:53 2003 From: toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee (Toomas Aas) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 23:06:53 +0200 Subject: SLP Policy with ZEN v3.2 In-Reply-To: <3E427218.2000507@umich.edu> Message-ID: <200302062107.h16L7cL17662@lv.raad.tartu.ee> Hi! > We have some specific SLP items that need to be set on our Win9x > workstations (Scope, DA, Active Discovery off, etc.). I did it with ZENWorks 2 Starter Pack by just creating an application which imports the necessary registry settings. Worked just fine. Unfortunately I've since deleted the app object and I don't remember what the settings were, but they're easy enough to find with regedit. -- Toomas Aas | toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee | http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/ * Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film. From toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee Thu Feb 6 21:16:00 2003 From: toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee (Toomas Aas) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 23:16:00 +0200 Subject: TCPIP - Domestic or Null In-Reply-To: <3E426F56.3080201@calfrye.com> Message-ID: <200302062116.h16LGak17781@lv.raad.tartu.ee> Hi! > Just to muddy the waters a bit, we've seen some NICs insist on > autonegotiation even when set manually, so we've had to set some switch > ports to autonegotiate and remove all the choices but for the desired > setting we want. I've also seen it on x86 hardware, specifically with Windows NT 4.0 and AMD PCNet integrated NIC as found in IBM PC Server 325 (if anyone remembers such an old thing). When I even touched the settings in NIC driver, it stopped working, never to start again, even when set back to auto-negotiate. I even had a motherboard replaced b/c of this stupid driver problem. -- Toomas Aas | toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee | http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/ * Those who can't write, write manuals. From Matthew.Moncaster at circle33.org Thu Feb 6 21:23:56 2003 From: Matthew.Moncaster at circle33.org (Matthew Moncaster) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 21:23:56 +0000 Subject: Lost DS on a remote server - ERROR: DS.NLM initializing function 38, -666 Message-ID: Help. I have a remote server (distant from me, not easily physically accessible, and needs to be in use in 11 hours) which has lost its DS. What happened was: the server abended halfway through (actually less but anyway part way through) an eDirectory upgrade from DS 8.79 to eDirectory 8.6.2. Extremely stupidly I did not do dsrepair -rc first to backup the NDS. After restarting, DS.NLM fails to load. Typing DS manually results in error in the subject, which is ERR_INCOMPATIBLE_DS_VERSION seemingly. Presumably due to the DS corruption, I cannot now connect to that server. Although I can rconsolej to it. Groupwise still works on the server, sadly its all alone ... no dhcpsrvr, no BackupExec, and obviously nobody will be able to login. I have looked at TID 10060492 but the fix doesn't apply as there is no DSLOADER.NLM in SYS:SYSTEM. What else can I do? (Don't say JUMP). TIA, Matt Matthew Moncaster Central Systems Administrator Circle 33 Housing Group 1-7 Corsica Street London N5 1JG Direct line (020) 7288 4195 To log IT problems call (020) 7288 4015 -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: InterScan_Disclaimer.txt URL: From JRD at cc.usu.edu Thu Feb 6 20:55:07 2003 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 14:55:07 -0600 (MDT) Subject: More on File Synchronization Message-ID: <01KS4DPMGS8IAYLAZ4@cc.usu.edu> >Just a follow up on previous discussions of file synchronization. >Rsync was on of the product mentioned. Today, I follow Dave Bracken's >link to http://www.npsh.hu/analyzer_en.html and saw a product called >Sync Center 1.22. > >I decided to download and test it out. > >So far it has been quite easy and simple to configure. It took me about >10 minutes to configure a sync job from a netware 5.0 to a netware 6.0 >server. The job is configured to go without any bandwidth restriction >(35GB to sync). Netware source server hovers at 10-15% and 10% for the >target. > >The product is simple and easy to use. Just want to share this info to >the list. > >Daniel - dtran at ssc.ucla.edu ---------- Hmmm, the blurb says the product costs USD400 per server and is specially built for the tree. More servers, more costs. Rsync is free and it works between NW servers and also with Unix and Windows machines. I have it talking NW<->FreeBSD. I recall seeing another commercial product doing similar things, but the reference has faded from memory. Thanks Dan. Joe D. From John at coastal.edu Thu Feb 6 21:58:16 2003 From: John at coastal.edu (John Hanna) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 16:58:16 -0500 Subject: DHCP Audit trails Message-ID: <006201c2ce2a$dd158ac0$041478c7@ccu03722> I have one server that when I select "View Audit Trail log" in DNS/DHCP Management Console, it pulls nothing up and immediately says done. Same thing happens if I select "View events/alerts". I have "Audit trails and alerts options" set to "All". Has anyone seen or experienced this? If not, Anyone have an idea on what I should look for to fix? Thanks, John Hanna Network Services Manager Coastal Carolina University PO Box 261954 Conway, SC 29528-6054 Phone:(843)349-2150 Fax: (843)349-2990 Email: John at coastal.edu From Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com Thu Feb 6 22:04:26 2003 From: Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com (Peter Van Lone) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 16:04:26 -0600 Subject: Lost DS on a remote server - ERROR: DS.NLM initializingfunction 38, -666 Message-ID: call Novell, open an incident? You could try dsrepair -a, remove ds (probably will not work).... You could try to do an "upgrade" re-install You could wipe the server out of DS, then reboot to an install CD and install as a new server (if the server had been successfully removed from DS then you could use same names, etc ..... and if you leave the volumes alone (for sure a vol1 or data volume) then the install will just re-use what is there ... I cannot attest for sure that there will not be problems even if this works!!!!!) --- tho variations of this type have worked for me in "scramble times" in the past ..... good luck! peter -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Moncaster [mailto:Matthew.Moncaster at circle33.org] Sent: Thu 2/6/2003 3:23 PM To: < Cc: Subject: Lost DS on a remote server - ERROR: DS.NLM initializingfunction 38, -666 Help. I have a remote server (distant from me, not easily physically accessible, and needs to be in use in 11 hours) which has lost its DS. What happened was: the server abended halfway through (actually less but anyway part way through) an eDirectory upgrade from DS 8.79 to eDirectory 8.6.2. Extremely stupidly I did not do dsrepair -rc first to backup the NDS. After restarting, DS.NLM fails to load. Typing DS manually results in error in the subject, which is ERR_INCOMPATIBLE_DS_VERSION seemingly. Presumably due to the DS corruption, I cannot now connect to that server. Although I can rconsolej to it. Groupwise still works on the server, sadly its all alone ... no dhcpsrvr, no BackupExec, and obviously nobody will be able to login. I have looked at TID 10060492 but the fix doesn't apply as there is no DSLOADER.NLM in SYS:SYSTEM. What else can I do? (Don't say JUMP). 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Same thing happens if I select "View events/alerts". I have "Audit trails and alerts options" set to "All". Has anyone seen or experienced this? If not, Anyone have an idea on what I should look for to fix? Thanks, John Hanna Network Services Manager Coastal Carolina University PO Box 261954 Conway, SC 29528-6054 Phone:(843)349-2150 Fax: (843)349-2990 Email: John at coastal.edu _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com Thu Feb 6 22:08:21 2003 From: Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com (Peter Van Lone) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 16:08:21 -0600 Subject: Server utilization jumps to 99% every 3 to 5 minutes Message-ID: also the Dell hardware seems common amongst all of these reports ..... I'm at a site now with all Dell poweredge (new'ish mostly) servers, and have not had this issue, but I would contact Dell and find out about any firmware and driver updates -- and perhaps was a service pack run that now is showing signs of conflict with the drivers in use? Also -- disable the platform support for multi-processors. Run these babies on one processor and see if it goes away (good shot I'd guess ......) Also -- try a generic Intel pro 100 nic as a replacement ..... just some ideas ... peter -----Original Message----- From: Martyn Smith [mailto:MSMITH at col-westanglia.ac.uk] Sent: Thu 2/6/2003 3:06 PM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Cc: Subject: RE: Server utilization jumps to 99% every 3 to 5 minutes Sounds like this is getting to be a common issue - I have had this on two servers in the past two days. One is a Dell 6300 and the other a Dell 2500... Dirty cache buffers and disk writes are through the floor from what these servers can cope with (both dual processor - P0 is displaying the bad utilisation) Network activity is through the floor and NDS synch activity is low. Highest profile is again Server.00 (in a suspended state which takes up approx 75% of the processor time). >From what I can see from thread server.xx it does not appear to coincide with any of the above threads - though in both servers I have had tape drives playing up. I have now removed one from one server and just rebooted the other - just to help isolate the issue (incase this is not just random chance). As a matter of interest I have taken both these servers to warm boot after this issue and re Dell's diags with varying degrees of success (lock-ups when loading the diags). Cold boot then diags run fine. I know could mean nothing due to information left in memory - however all service routines should be handled by DOS (Dell Open Manage Utils still run under this)... Martyn Smith IT Network Coordinator The College of West Anglia Tennyson Avenue Kings Lynn Norfolk UK PE30 2QW Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 08:38:11 -0800 From: "Jeff Groetsema" To: Subject: RE: Server utilization jumps to 99% every 3 to 5 minutes Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Reply-To: Novell LAN Interest Group Message: 11 My server exhibits the same thing. If it was a disk writes issue, I would 0D expect dirty cache buffers to be high since that's were any delayed disk = write information would be stored. If you can, web into the NetWare Management Portal and select Profiling & = Debug Information. While your experiencing the high utilization, click on = the SERVER xx listing under Thread Name. Compare this to the listing = attached to my original post. If you can't find that, send me an E-mail = and I'll send you a copy. >From my listing it basically looks like the server is doing NDS stuff then = disk stuff and then TCP stuff (please forgive my technical lingo). Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu >>> tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk 02/06/03 02:36AM >>> "Server:xx" threads belonging to SERVER.NLM. Useful, huh? Dirty cache buffers are hovering around zero but there is fairly constant disk activity. There are only 15 users on this server so our deduction was that disk writes are being held up by the cpu bound process. Only other stuff running is BackupExec 8.5 (I really must go to 9 soon...) and the aforementioned NAV. At 18:43 05/02/2003 -0600, you wrote: >In monitor or IMANAGE, what processes, threads, or NLMs are causing the >high utilization? > >Thanks > >Dana > > >>> tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk 02/05/03 10:32AM >>> >We get this once every two weeks or so. This dstrace didn't yield >anything >- i.e. when util. shot to 99%-100% and stayed there, the dstrace screen > >showed no extraordinary activity. I disabled NAV a while back in the >hope >that it was this and I've read the "high util" tids to no avail. Write > >queue, network queues all show no problems, it's only solved by a >reboot. >I've got a tech here saying that he's googled an article on Dell 2400s >(our >machine is a 2500) that exhibited the issue and attributed it to a >shared >interrupt. I'll let you all know, but if anyone else has any ideas I'd >love >'em to bits... 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Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 9810 bytes Desc: not available URL: From JRD at cc.usu.edu Thu Feb 6 21:14:50 2003 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 15:14:50 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Server utilization jumps to 99% every 3 to 5 minutes Message-ID: <01KS4ENNQK2IAYLAZ4@cc.usu.edu> >YWxzbyB0aGUgRGVsbCBoYXJkd2FyZSBzZWVtcyBjb21tb24gYW1vbmdzdCBhbGwgb2YgdGhlc2Ug >cmVwb3J0cyAuLi4uLg0KIA0KSSdtIGF0IGEgc2l0ZSBub3cgd2l0aCBhbGwgRGVsbCBwb3dlcmVk ------- Pilots: Man your MUAs! Please folks, none of this Windows gibberish to the list. Plain ASCII text, no HTML, no encoding. Whack the MUAs which decline to cooperate. Joe D. From maryve1 at starpower.net Thu Feb 6 22:44:57 2003 From: maryve1 at starpower.net (Mary Van Engelen) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 17:44:57 -0500 Subject: DHCP Audit trails In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030206174213.01ee0f10@pop.starpower.net> It used to work here, but there was never much of anything in it. Now it just never completes and sometimes locks up my computer. Mary At 2/6/2003 05:07 PM, Jeff Groetsema wrote: >We experienced the same thing here. Never did figure it out. > >Now we're using Cisco Netword Registrar (by decree, not choice). > > >Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services >University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law >jgroetsema at uop.edu > > >>> John at coastal.edu 02/06/03 01:58PM >>> >I have one server that when I select "View Audit Trail log" in DNS/DHCP >Management Console, it pulls nothing up and immediately says done. >Same thing happens if I select "View events/alerts". I have "Audit >trails and alerts options" set to "All". Has anyone seen or experienced >this? If not, Anyone have an idea on what I should look for to fix? > >Thanks, >John Hanna >Network Services Manager >Coastal Carolina University >PO Box 261954 >Conway, SC 29528-6054 >Phone:(843)349-2150 Fax: (843)349-2990 >Email: John at coastal.edu > > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From skiphefel at advanced-data.com Thu Feb 6 23:04:50 2003 From: skiphefel at advanced-data.com (Skip Hefel) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 17:04:50 -0600 Subject: FTP account restriction ? Message-ID: <2C2609144800D611A50A006008F61227018113CA@AXIAL.advanced-data.com> Is there anyone that is using FTP services, we have a client that will take up to 15 connections and upload about 5-6GB of files. (voice files for long distance verifications) I attempted to limit the connections to 5 in NDS, but this doesn't take, I can disable the account, I need to know is there somewhere for the NWFTPD.NLM service, can I in the ftpserv.cfg or ftprest.txt that I could specify for "SESSIONS PER USER" to limit their connections. All those files and connections tend to run my available cache memory down to 1000 buffers until it pukes. (Unfortuately, besides FTP, I'm running DHCPSRVR, local network routing(in process of moving to a router), NDPS printing, viruse protection, Batch files for the floor, ZFD import/export server, workstation auditing, and the MASTER NDS server for 6 sites. Thanks Skip Hefel From acquistj at lan.newpaltz.edu Fri Feb 7 00:09:39 2003 From: acquistj at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 19:09:39 -0500 Subject: TCPIP - Domestic or Null Message-ID: Thought this went out earlier. >We've been working on the duplex issue as far as the >workstations are >concerned. All servers have been set at half duplex >for a couple of >years. >Help Desk staff keep dropping their part in getting >the workstations >configured. So I am now having daily checks with them to keep them on >top >of it. They are having to visit every machine and fix >it. We finally >figured out that we could go ahead and set the switch >ports without >causing >immediate problems for PCs not yet changed. So we've >done that. I tend to think, if the switch ports are set, then the PC's are not critical. >What brought all of this up? We were getting lots of >"Tree or server >not >found" errors on login mostly on Win2K computers, >which we began rolling >out a few months ago. We are seeing fewer of them as >we get through this >project of setting everything to half duplex. This is likely an SLP problem, tho, I guess, could be a spanning tree matter. >One TCPIP related problem is duplicate IP addresses. Using "dynamic" addressing (that is, leases expire)? Then, if these are win9x, it could be that windows is not releasing the DHCP address when it should. 2k and XP do not seem to do that. There are a couple of utilities (forgotten) and a registry hack (per MS) that can force an address release. Also, it might not hurt to look and see if someone is actually manually setting up their IP stuff. Happens. >This came to a head >a couple of days ago when a presentation was interrupted by a duplicate >IP address error message (they've been told not to stay logged into the >network when giving presentations, but do they listen?). I patched >DHCPSRVR to 3.12c and we still get them. I have more than enough IP >addresses in the DHCP ranges, but the second range is not continuing >past the 31st address. That does sound odd. Maybe it thinks there are free addresses below that 31st address. >Another issue is a continuing problem between the primary and secondary >domains on our GroupWise servers. The primary domain keeps saying that >the >secondary domain is closed and then open ("Domain now closed", "Domain >now >open") within a few seconds. It happens at sporadic intervals, but >continues throughout the day. And we are experiencing some "transfer >delayed" with internal GW messages going to the internal listserver >which I >believe are related to this domain problem. Sure sounds like comms issues. Maybe there is just a bad switch somewhere? Router issue? In any case, some times there is no substitute for going hand over hand, following cables. Could be a forgotten box, server, arc welder, elevator motor, somehere (who knows?) that is creating problems. Do you have fiber links? Sometimes, if these were not installed correctly, problems show up later, as emitters and receivers age. Media converters flake out. People swap stuff and dirt gets in there. Still, it might be time to byte the bullet . . . (moving on) . . . and do a couple of packet traces. It is intimidating at first, but, since you seem to have patience and stick-to-itiv-ness, should not be too bad. >This is all happening at a time when I have two >cabling projects going >on (and new cablers who are not paying attention to >my requirements), Show them the contract. >iFolder rollout, BM VPN rollout to >selected staff and auditors on the >way. >Aren't you glad you asked? discretion is my new motto. >Mary Hope you find this useful. joea/ ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- Remember: once, everyone "Knew" the world was flat. --------------------------------------------------- From jgroetsema at uop.edu Fri Feb 7 01:07:22 2003 From: jgroetsema at uop.edu (Jeff Groetsema) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 17:07:22 -0800 Subject: Server utilization jumps to 99% every 3 to 5 minutes Message-ID: If your like me, you'll have noticed a flood of "Skipping , not in window" messages during high utilization. A quick search of the Novell knowledge base reports these TIDs: 10073369 and 10069194. TID 10073369 seems more relevent to whats going on and seems to say that this is the way it's supposed to act. Is this something new with 5.1 and SP5? My server doesn't quite seem to fit the profile as it is only a PPro200, but I believe we are in the 5,000 to 10,000 object range. Anyone else see anything similar? Dave - Thanks for the DSTrace commands! Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu >>> Dave.Bracken at salfordsoftware.co.uk 02/06/03 09:43AM >>> >>> tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk 2/6/2003 12:13:35 >>> > D at mn fine, Dave. We'll give it a go, thanks. Please let the list know how you get on. You might also want to consider feeding a config report (using the latest config nlm which generate xml reports) into Novell's latest and greatest config analyser and taking note of what it finds. This recently released config tool is absolutely brilliant (some would say it's the dog's danglies), I think it's the best bit of software to come from Novell since the last NetMail release which in itself was the best since ... oh, something a long time ago. Details can be found at http://www.npsh.hu/analyzer_en.html Dave ------------------------------------------------ Salford Software Ltd, Lancastrian Office Centre, Talbot Road, Old Trafford, Manchester M32 0FP Tel: +44 (0) 161 906 2299 Fax: +44 (0) 161 906 1003 www.salfordsoftware.co.uk ------------------------------------------------ This email is confidential and may contain privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient then you must not copy it, forward it, use it for any purpose, or disclose it to another person. Instead please return it to the sender immediately. Please then delete your copy from your system. Please also note that the author of this email cannot conclude any contract on behalf of Salford Software Ltd by email. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From rcataldo at nuinet.com Fri Feb 7 01:47:33 2003 From: rcataldo at nuinet.com (Bob Cataldo) Date: 06 Feb 2003 20:47:33 -0500 Subject: dos tcp/ip question Message-ID: <1044582454.1103.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Problem: I have an IP boot disk to connect a laptop to a Netware 6 server. I can log on to the server with no problem. I can only see 2 gigs of storage space. I tested this with "conventional" storage and NSS storage. I have browsed through the listserv archives and Novell and can not find a reference on this. The only thing I found in the archives was the startnet.bat setup and net.cfg setup ( which are like mine ). Any ideas/suggestions? I want to back up my laptop with Ghost and it will take more than 2 gigs even with high compression. Thanks Bob Cataldo From rgaspar at patlq.com Fri Feb 7 00:19:58 2003 From: rgaspar at patlq.com (Roland Gaspar) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 19:19:58 -0500 Subject: SLP Policy with ZEN v3.2 Message-ID: you *could* push it with DHCP options, if your clients are DHCP. ________________________ Roland Gaspar Tel.: (514) 398-7880 xt 8603 ICQ # 1355591 www.roland-gaspar.com/~roland >>> MDunigan at umich.edu 02/06/03 09:32AM >>> We have some specific SLP items that need to be set on our Win9x workstations (Scope, DA, Active Discovery off, etc.). We are not currently importing the workstations into NDS. Can ZEN push items like those above to the workstation if the workstation has been imported? How about if the workstation is not imported into NDS? I receive the list in digest form, so a personal reply is appreceiated. Thanks for you assistance. Mike -- ======================================================================= Michael J. Dunigan University of Michigan Phone:(734) 647-3633 MDunigan at umich.edu Office of the Registrar Fax: (734) 936-3148 Member of the Academic Affairs Network Administrators Team ======================================================================= _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From JRD at cc.usu.edu Fri Feb 7 00:58:49 2003 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 18:58:49 -0600 (MDT) Subject: dos tcp/ip question Message-ID: <01KS4MJ5HZLAAYLBYJ@cc.usu.edu> > >Problem: I have an IP boot disk to connect a laptop to a Netware 6 >server. > >I can log on to the server with no problem. > >I can only see 2 gigs of storage space. I tested this with >"conventional" storage and NSS storage. > >I have browsed through the listserv archives and Novell and can not find >a reference on this. The only thing I found in the archives was the >startnet.bat setup and net.cfg setup ( which are like mine ). > >Any ideas/suggestions? I want to back up my laptop with Ghost and it >will take more than 2 gigs even with high compression. > >Thanks >Bob Cataldo --------- DOS itself has a 2GB limit on everything. Joe D. From gordon.christie at centrelink.gov.au Fri Feb 7 02:18:20 2003 From: gordon.christie at centrelink.gov.au (gordon.christie at centrelink.gov.au) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 13:18:20 +1100 Subject: dos tcp/ip question Message-ID: I would guess that you are using Dos 6.22 or earlier, it has a visable 2 gb limit. It may be possible that you would be able to use more that 2 gb of space, but if your file is to be larger that 2 gb then it will fail. You need to try a W98 boot disk to allow for larger size. Gordon Christie Centrelink Australia Bob Cataldo cc: Sent by: Subject: dos tcp/ip question novell-bounces at netl ab1.usu.edu 07/02/2003 12:47 Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group Problem: I have an IP boot disk to connect a laptop to a Netware 6 server. I can log on to the server with no problem. I can only see 2 gigs of storage space. I tested this with "conventional" storage and NSS storage. I have browsed through the listserv archives and Novell and can not find a reference on this. The only thing I found in the archives was the startnet.bat setup and net.cfg setup ( which are like mine ). Any ideas/suggestions? I want to back up my laptop with Ghost and it will take more than 2 gigs even with high compression. Thanks Bob Cataldo _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell Important: This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is confidential, commercially valuable or subject to legal or parliamentary privilege. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that any review, re-transmission, disclosure, use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited by several Commonwealth Acts of Parliament. If you have received this communication in error please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this transmission together with any attachments. From carter at ipfw.edu Fri Feb 7 02:46:36 2003 From: carter at ipfw.edu (Jean-Paul Carter) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 21:46:36 -0500 Subject: dos tcp/ip question Message-ID: If I remember right, even using the win98 dos, you still hit a 2 gig limit. For ghost thought, just have it split before it hits the 2 gig mark and it will just make multiple smaller files. >>> gordon.christie at centrelink.gov.au 02/06/03 09:18PM >>> I would guess that you are using Dos 6.22 or earlier, it has a visable 2 gb limit. It may be possible that you would be able to use more that 2 gb of space, but if your file is to be larger that 2 gb then it will fail. You need to try a W98 boot disk to allow for larger size. Gordon Christie Centrelink Australia Bob Cataldo cc: Sent by: Subject: dos tcp/ip question novell-bounces at netl ab1.usu.edu 07/02/2003 12:47 Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group Problem: I have an IP boot disk to connect a laptop to a Netware 6 server. I can log on to the server with no problem. I can only see 2 gigs of storage space. I tested this with "conventional" storage and NSS storage. I have browsed through the listserv archives and Novell and can not find a reference on this. The only thing I found in the archives was the startnet.bat setup and net.cfg setup ( which are like mine ). Any ideas/suggestions? I want to back up my laptop with Ghost and it will take more than 2 gigs even with high compression. Thanks Bob Cataldo _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell Important: This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is confidential, commercially valuable or subject to legal or parliamentary privilege. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that any review, re-transmission, disclosure, use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited by several Commonwealth Acts of Parliament. If you have received this communication in error please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this transmission together with any attachments. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From fubarsnafu69 at yahoo.com Fri Feb 7 03:31:13 2003 From: fubarsnafu69 at yahoo.com (Fred James) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 19:31:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: GW questions In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20030206053239.009f77d0@mail.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20030207033113.63238.qmail@web10706.mail.yahoo.com> Is this not a Novell Group & isn't GW a Novell product --- Mark Perlstein wrote: > Places to get his questioned answered, http://www.ngwlist.com and > http://support.novell.com/forums/ > > > > AT 09:23 PM 2/5/03 -0800, you wrote: > >GW 5.5 EP Sp5. > > > >1) In the offiles\FD?? folders some of the files have an extension > of > >*.FD? these are date from 1997 & 1998, this was orginally a GW 4.1 > >system and it would have been at this time frame, this ext are > realted > >to GW 4.1 according to Knowledge base. All of the newer ones have > >extensions of *.00?, the GW 4.1 was migrated to GW5.2 then to GW5.5 > >then to GW5.5EP. I can't find any reference to whether or not I > still > >need these files. Add up to about 500MB of space. I have done what > the > >TID say to do about orphaned files but they are still there. I > don't > >need the disk space it is just more annoying than anything else. > > > >2) When the POA starts it creates the directory structure FD00 thru > >FDFE in the root of PO folder. I traced it to a Library that no > longer > >had its folder present, so I created a folder and then point the > >library storage area to it restart GW and it created the folder > >structure for this library, but still created the same folders in > the > >root of the PO. I think at one time there was another library that > was > >removed from the system incorrectly, but not 100% sure. I ran > GWcheck > >with analyse fix library with all options check and this did not fix > >it. The GWDMS folder under PO as 5 folders called LIB000? it looks > >like it has the library assign to LIB0005. Anybody have a clue > > > > > >Thanks > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do you Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > >http://mailplus.yahoo.com > >_______________________________________________ > >Novell mailing list > >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From rgrein at nwlink.com Fri Feb 7 05:58:32 2003 From: rgrein at nwlink.com (Randy Grein) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 21:58:32 -0800 Subject: TCPIP - Domestic or Null In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2FE9F6A1-3A61-11D7-999C-0003937048F0@nwlink.com> On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 11:48 AM, Joe Acquisto wrote: >> Fluke has an excellent book on the subject of basic >> analysis that covers auto negotiation VERY well. It >> is short, approachable and definitive - everything >> you need in a book of this type. >> . . . >> Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA > > Where can I find this book? Downloadable? > > joea/ Not downloadable AFAIK. It's Network Maintenance and Troubleshooting Guide by Fluke Networks. List price is $29, and you might be able to call Fluke for a copy if it's not out of print. 1-800-283-5853. BTW, Neil insists that setting one side of a connection to half duplex with the other side set to Auto does not always work, so keep an eye out for a few persistent problems if you use this configuration. At least the number will be small enough that you can address each individually. Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA From Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com Fri Feb 7 06:01:00 2003 From: Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com (Peter Van Lone) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 00:01:00 -0600 Subject: GW questions Message-ID: Um..... Yes ...... but for an audience whose focus is more tightly on Novell's MESSAGING products, choose a MESSAGING list that rather than a LAN list for best results. Seems kind of obvious and was I think offered in a helpful spirit. -----Original Message----- From: Fred James [mailto:fubarsnafu69 at yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:31 PM To: Novell LAN Interest Group Subject: Re: GW questions Is this not a Novell Group & isn't GW a Novell product --- Mark Perlstein wrote: > Places to get his questioned answered, http://www.ngwlist.com and > http://support.novell.com/forums/ > > > > AT 09:23 PM 2/5/03 -0800, you wrote: > >GW 5.5 EP Sp5. > > > >1) In the offiles\FD?? folders some of the files have an extension > of > >*.FD? these are date from 1997 & 1998, this was orginally a GW 4.1 > >system and it would have been at this time frame, this ext are > realted > >to GW 4.1 according to Knowledge base. All of the newer ones have > >extensions of *.00?, the GW 4.1 was migrated to GW5.2 then to GW5.5 > >then to GW5.5EP. I can't find any reference to whether or not I > still > >need these files. Add up to about 500MB of space. I have done what > the > >TID say to do about orphaned files but they are still there. I > don't > >need the disk space it is just more annoying than anything else. > > > >2) When the POA starts it creates the directory structure FD00 thru > >FDFE in the root of PO folder. I traced it to a Library that no > longer > >had its folder present, so I created a folder and then point the > >library storage area to it restart GW and it created the folder > >structure for this library, but still created the same folders in > the > >root of the PO. I think at one time there was another library that > was > >removed from the system incorrectly, but not 100% sure. I ran > GWcheck > >with analyse fix library with all options check and this did not fix > >it. The GWDMS folder under PO as 5 folders called LIB000? it looks > >like it has the library assign to LIB0005. Anybody have a clue > > > > > >Thanks > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do you Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > >http://mailplus.yahoo.com > >_______________________________________________ > >Novell mailing list > >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From rgrein at nwlink.com Fri Feb 7 06:22:28 2003 From: rgrein at nwlink.com (Randy Grein) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 22:22:28 -0800 Subject: Hardware: recomandations for SB server In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87DAEFDD-3A64-11D7-999C-0003937048F0@nwlink.com> On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 12:00 AM, Nanu Calmanovitz wrote: Ah, that makes sense. I would suggest one that you have experience with - there are few compatibility problems, but when dealing with the ones that remain familiarity is beneficial. > You are right. I need recommendation for a compatible motherboard. > My question about the memory derive from the fact that I sawdiferent > motherboards wiith diferennt memory types. > > TIA > > Nanu > >>>> rgrein at nwlink.com 06/02/03 10:01AM >>> > > On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 10:35 PM, Nanu Calmanovitz wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> I need recommendations to choose motherboard for a small business >> server (10 stations). OS will be Netware6 (NSBS). >> >> Please let me know your opinion and difference between DDR & SDR. >> >> TIA >> >> Nanu > > With 10 whole users there are more important things to worry about than > the type of memory used. > > Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA From zzz at mctc.mnscu.edu Fri Feb 7 06:35:46 2003 From: zzz at mctc.mnscu.edu (zzz) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 00:35:46 -0600 Subject: GW questions Message-ID: >Is this not a Novell Group & isn't GW a Novell product Jumping in on this thread. Yup, all NOVELL stuff valid here IMHO. But, I agree with the suggestion by Mark to look at the other lists as well since answers to very technical questions may be quicker on dedictated GW lists. The NGW list has techs that just do GW day in and out for a living, as well as many that do quite a bit of GW, but still deal with and understand LAN matters. Actually, many of them are on this list as well, but are more likely to respond to GW questions on the NGW list due to time constraints. There are also NOVELL techs that monitor the NGW list that just do GW and know their stuff. Sometimes they respond as well. Not sure if this helps, but the NGW list is the best list I know for GW questions, and is a pretty friendly and helpful list. Thanks Dana >--- Mark Perlstein wrote: >> Places to get his questioned answered, http://www.ngwlist.com and >> http://support.novell.com/forums/ >> >> >> >> AT 09:23 PM 2/5/03 -0800, you wrote: >> >GW 5.5 EP Sp5. >> > >> >1) In the offiles\FD?? folders some of the files have an extension >> of >> >*.FD? these are date from 1997 & 1998, this was orginally a GW 4.1 >> >system and it would have been at this time frame, this ext are >> realted >> >to GW 4.1 according to Knowledge base. All of the newer ones have >> >extensions of *.00?, the GW 4.1 was migrated to GW5.2 then to GW5.5 >> >then to GW5.5EP. I can't find any reference to whether or not I >> still >> >need these files. Add up to about 500MB of space. I have done what >> the >> >TID say to do about orphaned files but they are still there. I >> don't >> >need the disk space it is just more annoying than anything else. >> > >> >2) When the POA starts it creates the directory structure FD00 thru >> >FDFE in the root of PO folder. I traced it to a Library that no >> longer >> >had its folder present, so I created a folder and then point the >> >library storage area to it restart GW and it created the folder >> >structure for this library, but still created the same folders in >> the >> >root of the PO. I think at one time there was another library that >> was >> >removed from the system incorrectly, but not 100% sure. I ran >> GWcheck >> >with analyse fix library with all options check and this did not fix >> >it. The GWDMS folder under PO as 5 folders called LIB000? it looks >> >like it has the library assign to LIB0005. Anybody have a clue >> > >> > >> >Thanks >> > > From TIM at nds8.com Fri Feb 7 08:24:13 2003 From: TIM at nds8.com (Tim Heywood) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 08:24:13 +0000 Subject: GW questions Message-ID: Actually I think you need to look at the title of the list novell at netlab1.usu.edu a little closer! My GW knowlage does not go back as far as GW4 and I really only got going with 55 so I am unable to help on this. However, if you point an NNTP reader or a web browser at support-forums.novell.com and look for the gw5 forums, we have some grey haired people who will be ab;e to help (And Danita who has no grey hair at all.. honest!) Tim ************************* Tim Heywood Scotland (God's Country) Novell Support Connection SYSOP ************************* In theory, practice and theory are the same, In practice they are different! >>> fubarsnafu69 at yahoo.com 02/07/03 03:43 AM >>> Is this not a Novell Group & isn't GW a Novell product --- Mark Perlstein wrote: > Places to get his questioned answered, http://www.ngwlist.com and > http://support.novell.com/forums/ > > > > AT 09:23 PM 2/5/03 -0800, you wrote: > >GW 5.5 EP Sp5. > > > >1) In the offiles\FD?? folders some of the files have an extension > of > >*.FD? these are date from 1997 & 1998, this was orginally a GW 4.1 > >system and it would have been at this time frame, this ext are > realted > >to GW 4.1 according to Knowledge base. All of the newer ones have > >extensions of *.00?, the GW 4.1 was migrated to GW5.2 then to GW5.5 > >then to GW5.5EP. I can't find any reference to whether or not I > still > >need these files. Add up to about 500MB of space. I have done what > the > >TID say to do about orphaned files but they are still there. I > don't > >need the disk space it is just more annoying than anything else. > > > >2) When the POA starts it creates the directory structure FD00 thru > >FDFE in the root of PO folder. I traced it to a Library that no > longer > >had its folder present, so I created a folder and then point the > >library storage area to it restart GW and it created the folder > >structure for this library, but still created the same folders in > the > >root of the PO. I think at one time there was another library that > was > >removed from the system incorrectly, but not 100% sure. I ran > GWcheck > >with analyse fix library with all options check and this did not fix > >it. The GWDMS folder under PO as 5 folders called LIB000? it looks > >like it has the library assign to LIB0005. Anybody have a clue > > > > > >Thanks > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do you Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! 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Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From msmith at col-westanglia.ac.uk Fri Feb 7 10:03:29 2003 From: msmith at col-westanglia.ac.uk (Martyn Smith) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:03:29 -0000 Subject: Server utilization jumps to 99% every 3 to 5 minutes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000201c2ce90$29ff39c0$8d0010ac@colwestanglia.ac.uk> Tried Stop Processor already, we are using an Intel Pro 1000 net card which has been swapped. Though I have since loaded up all services and not had any more issues, I believe someone posted a message stating it happens every two weeks. This could be a long one to diagnose if you can only test once per 2 week period... -----Original Message----- From: Peter Van Lone [mailto:Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com] Sent: 06 February 2003 22:08 To: msmith at col-westanglia.ac.uk; Novell LAN Interest Group Subject: RE: Server utilization jumps to 99% every 3 to 5 minutes also the Dell hardware seems common amongst all of these reports ..... I'm at a site now with all Dell poweredge (new'ish mostly) servers, and have not had this issue, but I would contact Dell and find out about any firmware and driver updates -- and perhaps was a service pack run that now is showing signs of conflict with the drivers in use? Also -- disable the platform support for multi-processors. Run these babies on one processor and see if it goes away (good shot I'd guess ......) Also -- try a generic Intel pro 100 nic as a replacement ..... just some ideas ... peter -----Original Message----- From: Martyn Smith [mailto:MSMITH at col-westanglia.ac.uk] Sent: Thu 2/6/2003 3:06 PM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Cc: Subject: RE: Server utilization jumps to 99% every 3 to 5 minutes Sounds like this is getting to be a common issue - I have had this on two servers in the past two days. One is a Dell 6300 and the other a Dell 2500... Dirty cache buffers and disk writes are through the floor from what these servers can cope with (both dual processor - P0 is displaying the bad utilisation) Network activity is through the floor and NDS synch activity is low. Highest profile is again Server.00 (in a suspended state which takes up approx 75% of the processor time). >From what I can see from thread server.xx it does not appear to coincide with any of the above threads - though in both servers I have had tape drives playing up. I have now removed one from one server and just rebooted the other - just to help isolate the issue (incase this is not just random chance). As a matter of interest I have taken both these servers to warm boot after this issue and re Dell's diags with varying degrees of success (lock-ups when loading the diags). Cold boot then diags run fine. I know could mean nothing due to information left in memory - however all service routines should be handled by DOS (Dell Open Manage Utils still run under this)... Martyn Smith IT Network Coordinator The College of West Anglia Tennyson Avenue Kings Lynn Norfolk UK PE30 2QW Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 08:38:11 -0800 From: "Jeff Groetsema" To: Subject: RE: Server utilization jumps to 99% every 3 to 5 minutes Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Reply-To: Novell LAN Interest Group Message: 11 My server exhibits the same thing. If it was a disk writes issue, I would 0D expect dirty cache buffers to be high since that's were any delayed disk = write information would be stored. If you can, web into the NetWare Management Portal and select Profiling & = Debug Information. While your experiencing the high utilization, click on = the SERVER xx listing under Thread Name. Compare this to the listing = attached to my original post. If you can't find that, send me an E-mail = and I'll send you a copy. >From my listing it basically looks like the server is doing NDS stuff then = disk stuff and then TCP stuff (please forgive my technical lingo). Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu >>> tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk 02/06/03 02:36AM >>> "Server:xx" threads belonging to SERVER.NLM. Useful, huh? Dirty cache buffers are hovering around zero but there is fairly constant disk activity. There are only 15 users on this server so our deduction was that disk writes are being held up by the cpu bound process. Only other stuff running is BackupExec 8.5 (I really must go to 9 soon...) and the aforementioned NAV. At 18:43 05/02/2003 -0600, you wrote: >In monitor or IMANAGE, what processes, threads, or NLMs are causing the >high utilization? > >Thanks > >Dana > > >>> tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk 02/05/03 10:32AM >>> >We get this once every two weeks or so. This dstrace didn't yield >anything >- i.e. when util. shot to 99%-100% and stayed there, the dstrace screen > >showed no extraordinary activity. I disabled NAV a while back in the >hope >that it was this and I've read the "high util" tids to no avail. Write > >queue, network queues all show no problems, it's only solved by a >reboot. >I've got a tech here saying that he's googled an article on Dell 2400s >(our >machine is a 2500) that exhibited the issue and attributed it to a >shared >interrupt. I'll let you all know, but if anyone else has any ideas I'd >love >'em to bits... Tim Clarke AMBCS MIAP IT Director Manifest 9 Freebournes Court Newland Street Witham, Essex CM8 2BL England Phone: +44 1376 503500 Fax: +44 1376 503550 Email: tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk Web: http://www.manifest.co.uk=20 Manifest is the trading name of: Manifest Information Services Ltd: Registered in England Number 3401145 & The Manifest Voting Agency Ltd: Registered in England Number 2920820 Registered Office at above address Copyright: This e-mail may contain confidential or legally privileged=20 information. 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URL: From msmith at col-westanglia.ac.uk Fri Feb 7 10:07:35 2003 From: msmith at col-westanglia.ac.uk (Martyn Smith) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:07:35 -0000 Subject: Server utilization jumps to 99% every 3 to 5 minutes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000701c2ce90$bcabbfa0$8d0010ac@colwestanglia.ac.uk> I also have about 40 other Dells (without the issue - though mostly without tape devices). Though these servers have been running cleanly since SP2 was released it seems strange that this should occur now - I will also check any strange TCP connections, if any next time... Thanks Martyn -----Original Message----- From: Peter Van Lone [mailto:Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com] Sent: 06 February 2003 22:08 To: msmith at col-westanglia.ac.uk; Novell LAN Interest Group Subject: RE: Server utilization jumps to 99% every 3 to 5 minutes also the Dell hardware seems common amongst all of these reports ..... I'm at a site now with all Dell poweredge (new'ish mostly) servers, and have not had this issue, but I would contact Dell and find out about any firmware and driver updates -- and perhaps was a service pack run that now is showing signs of conflict with the drivers in use? Also -- disable the platform support for multi-processors. Run these babies on one processor and see if it goes away (good shot I'd guess ......) Also -- try a generic Intel pro 100 nic as a replacement ..... just some ideas ... peter -----Original Message----- From: Martyn Smith [mailto:MSMITH at col-westanglia.ac.uk] Sent: Thu 2/6/2003 3:06 PM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Cc: Subject: RE: Server utilization jumps to 99% every 3 to 5 minutes Sounds like this is getting to be a common issue - I have had this on two servers in the past two days. One is a Dell 6300 and the other a Dell 2500... Dirty cache buffers and disk writes are through the floor from what these servers can cope with (both dual processor - P0 is displaying the bad utilisation) Network activity is through the floor and NDS synch activity is low. Highest profile is again Server.00 (in a suspended state which takes up approx 75% of the processor time). >From what I can see from thread server.xx it does not appear to coincide with any of the above threads - though in both servers I have had tape drives playing up. I have now removed one from one server and just rebooted the other - just to help isolate the issue (incase this is not just random chance). As a matter of interest I have taken both these servers to warm boot after this issue and re Dell's diags with varying degrees of success (lock-ups when loading the diags). Cold boot then diags run fine. I know could mean nothing due to information left in memory - however all service routines should be handled by DOS (Dell Open Manage Utils still run under this)... Martyn Smith IT Network Coordinator The College of West Anglia Tennyson Avenue Kings Lynn Norfolk UK PE30 2QW Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 08:38:11 -0800 From: "Jeff Groetsema" To: Subject: RE: Server utilization jumps to 99% every 3 to 5 minutes Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Reply-To: Novell LAN Interest Group Message: 11 My server exhibits the same thing. If it was a disk writes issue, I would 0D expect dirty cache buffers to be high since that's were any delayed disk = write information would be stored. If you can, web into the NetWare Management Portal and select Profiling & = Debug Information. While your experiencing the high utilization, click on = the SERVER xx listing under Thread Name. Compare this to the listing = attached to my original post. If you can't find that, send me an E-mail = and I'll send you a copy. >From my listing it basically looks like the server is doing NDS stuff then = disk stuff and then TCP stuff (please forgive my technical lingo). Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu >>> tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk 02/06/03 02:36AM >>> "Server:xx" threads belonging to SERVER.NLM. Useful, huh? Dirty cache buffers are hovering around zero but there is fairly constant disk activity. There are only 15 users on this server so our deduction was that disk writes are being held up by the cpu bound process. Only other stuff running is BackupExec 8.5 (I really must go to 9 soon...) and the aforementioned NAV. At 18:43 05/02/2003 -0600, you wrote: >In monitor or IMANAGE, what processes, threads, or NLMs are causing the >high utilization? > >Thanks > >Dana > > >>> tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk 02/05/03 10:32AM >>> >We get this once every two weeks or so. This dstrace didn't yield >anything >- i.e. when util. shot to 99%-100% and stayed there, the dstrace screen > >showed no extraordinary activity. I disabled NAV a while back in the >hope >that it was this and I've read the "high util" tids to no avail. Write > >queue, network queues all show no problems, it's only solved by a >reboot. >I've got a tech here saying that he's googled an article on Dell 2400s >(our >machine is a 2500) that exhibited the issue and attributed it to a >shared >interrupt. I'll let you all know, but if anyone else has any ideas I'd >love >'em to bits... 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URL: From smf34 at cam.ac.uk Fri Feb 7 10:27:11 2003 From: smf34 at cam.ac.uk (Simon Flood) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 10:27:11 +0000 Subject: DHCP Audit trails References: <006201c2ce2a$dd158ac0$041478c7@ccu03722> Message-ID: <3E4389FF.94C7CBB@cam.ac.uk> On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 16:58:16 -0500 John Hanna wrote: > I have one server that when I select "View Audit Trail log" in DNS/DHCP > Management Console, it pulls nothing up and immediately says done. > Same thing happens if I select "View events/alerts". I have "Audit > trails and alerts options" set to "All". Has anyone seen or experienced > this? If not, Anyone have an idea on what I should look for to fix? Is CSATPXY.NLM loaded on the server? HTH Simon From smf34 at cam.ac.uk Fri Feb 7 11:06:54 2003 From: smf34 at cam.ac.uk (Simon Flood) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 11:06:54 +0000 Subject: TCPIP - Domestic or Null Message-ID: <3E43934E.F498B43A@cam.ac.uk> On Thu Feb 6 21:58:32 MST 2003 Randy Grein wrote: > On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 11:48 AM, Joe Acquisto wrote: > > >> Fluke has an excellent book on the subject of basic > >> analysis that covers auto negotiation VERY well. It > >> is short, approachable and definitive - everything > >> you need in a book of this type. > > > > Where can I find this book? Downloadable? > > > Not downloadable AFAIK. It's Network Maintenance and Troubleshooting > Guide by Fluke Networks. List price is $29, and you might be able to > call Fluke for a copy if it's not out of print. 1-800-283-5853. A quick search of Google and Amazon throws up (at least) 3 versions of the above book: Network Maintenance and Troubleshooting Guide by Neal Allen ISBN: 0963865013 Published March 1997 by Fluke Corporation Available as a used book from BarnesandNoble.com (~$45) ISBN: 158713800X Published 1 November 2000 by Cisco Press Available from Amazon.com ($29) & Amazon.co.uk (?17.60) ISBN: 1587130653 Due to be published 31 March 2003 by Cisco Press Available from Amazon.co.uk (?23.50) HTH Simon From maryve1 at starpower.net Fri Feb 7 11:17:36 2003 From: maryve1 at starpower.net (Mary Van Engelen) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 06:17:36 -0500 Subject: GW questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030207061320.00acca30@pop.starpower.net> Ditto. And Dana is one of the most helpful and friendliest there! There's a better chance of getting some early news of GroupWise happenings there, as well. Mary At 2/7/2003 01:35 AM, zzz wrote: > >Is this not a Novell Group & isn't GW a Novell product > >Jumping in on this thread. >Yup, all NOVELL stuff valid here IMHO. > >But, I agree with the suggestion by Mark to look at the other lists as >well since answers to very technical questions may be quicker on >dedictated GW lists. > >The NGW list has techs that just do GW day in and out for a living, as >well as many that do quite a bit of GW, but still deal with and >understand LAN matters. > >Actually, many of them are on this list as well, but are more likely to >respond to GW questions on the NGW list due to time constraints. > >There are also NOVELL techs that monitor the NGW list that just do GW >and know their stuff. >Sometimes they respond as well. > >Not sure if this helps, but the NGW list is the best list I know for GW >questions, and is a pretty friendly and helpful list. > > >Thanks > >Dana > > >--- Mark Perlstein wrote: > >> Places to get his questioned answered, http://www.ngwlist.com and > >> http://support.novell.com/forums/ > >> > >> > >> > >> AT 09:23 PM 2/5/03 -0800, you wrote: > >> >GW 5.5 EP Sp5. > >> > > >> >1) In the offiles\FD?? folders some of the files have an extension > >> of > >> >*.FD? these are date from 1997 & 1998, this was orginally a GW 4.1 > >> >system and it would have been at this time frame, this ext are > >> realted > >> >to GW 4.1 according to Knowledge base. All of the newer ones have > >> >extensions of *.00?, the GW 4.1 was migrated to GW5.2 then to >GW5.5 > >> >then to GW5.5EP. I can't find any reference to whether or not I > >> still > >> >need these files. Add up to about 500MB of space. I have done >what > >> the > >> >TID say to do about orphaned files but they are still there. I > >> don't > >> >need the disk space it is just more annoying than anything else. > >> > > >> >2) When the POA starts it creates the directory structure FD00 >thru > >> >FDFE in the root of PO folder. I traced it to a Library that no > >> longer > >> >had its folder present, so I created a folder and then point the > >> >library storage area to it restart GW and it created the folder > >> >structure for this library, but still created the same folders in > >> the > >> >root of the PO. I think at one time there was another library that > >> was > >> >removed from the system incorrectly, but not 100% sure. I ran > >> GWcheck > >> >with analyse fix library with all options check and this did not >fix > >> >it. The GWDMS folder under PO as 5 folders called LIB000? it >looks > >> >like it has the library assign to LIB0005. Anybody have a clue > >> > > >> > > >> >Thanks > >> > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From maryve1 at starpower.net Fri Feb 7 11:22:05 2003 From: maryve1 at starpower.net (Mary Van Engelen) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 06:22:05 -0500 Subject: TCPIP - Domestic or Null In-Reply-To: <2FE9F6A1-3A61-11D7-999C-0003937048F0@nwlink.com> References: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030207061835.029b28d0@pop.starpower.net> Understood. Setting the switches was done in conjunction with an active project to set the workstations so any problems will diminish as we get more of them done. Thanks, Mary At 2/7/2003 12:58 AM, Randy Grein wrote: >On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 11:48 AM, Joe Acquisto wrote: > >>>Fluke has an excellent book on the subject of basic >>>analysis that covers auto negotiation VERY well. It >>>is short, approachable and definitive - everything >>>you need in a book of this type. >>>. . . >>>Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA >> >>Where can I find this book? Downloadable? >> >>joea/ >Not downloadable AFAIK. It's Network Maintenance and Troubleshooting >Guide by Fluke Networks. List price is $29, and you might be able to call >Fluke for a copy if it's not out of print. 1-800-283-5853. > >BTW, Neil insists that setting one side of a connection to half duplex >with the other side set to Auto does not always work, so keep an eye out >for a few persistent problems if you use this configuration. At least the >number will be small enough that you can address each individually. > >Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From acquistj at lan.newpaltz.edu Fri Feb 7 12:19:42 2003 From: acquistj at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 07:19:42 -0500 Subject: TCPIP - Domestic or Null Message-ID: >----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- Remember: once, everyone "Knew" the world was flat. --------------------------------------------------- >>> rgrein at nwlink.com 02/07/03 00:59 AM >>> > >On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 11:48 AM, Joe >Acquisto wrote: >> . . . >Not downloadable AFAIK. It's Network Maintenance and >Troubleshooting >Guide by Fluke Networks. List price is $29, and you >might be able to >call Fluke for a copy if it's not out of print. >1800-283-5853. >BTW, Neil insists that setting one side of a >connection to half duplex >with the other side set to Auto does not always work, >so keep an eye >out for a few persistent problems if you use this >configuration. At >least the number will be small enough that you can >address each individually. > >Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA Good point. I guess I more or less said that was OK, in another post, but I suspect it is not, in some cases. Here, we ran into this topic head long, a few times, sometimes heatedly. But, there is another mud puddle here, touched on earlier. On Windows platforms, at least, there is the matter of power on or reset actions on the part of the NIC, and what happens when the NIC driver loads and "activates". In a discussion with tech support for one NIC vendor, we established that there is no way to "firm code" their cards to power in any way other than "auto". So, the NICS will power up (or when reset presumably) in auto, even if the windows driver config is set to some other configuration. Problematic still. joea From maryve1 at starpower.net Fri Feb 7 12:24:30 2003 From: maryve1 at starpower.net (Mary Van Engelen) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 07:24:30 -0500 Subject: TCPIP - Domestic or Null In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030207062434.02b8b8f0@pop.starpower.net> At 2/6/2003 07:09 PM, Joe Acquisto wrote: >Thought this went out earlier. > > >We've been working on the duplex issue as far as the >workstations are > >concerned. All servers have been set at half duplex > >for a couple of >years. > >Help Desk staff keep dropping their part in getting > >the workstations > >configured. So I am now having daily checks with them to keep them on > >top > >of it. They are having to visit every machine and fix > >it. We finally > >figured out that we could go ahead and set the switch > >ports without >causing > >immediate problems for PCs not yet changed. So we've > >done that. > >I tend to think, if the switch ports are set, then the PC's are not >critical. > > >What brought all of this up? We were getting lots of >"Tree or server > >not > >found" errors on login mostly on Win2K computers, > >which we began rolling > >out a few months ago. We are seeing fewer of them as >we get through >this > >project of setting everything to half duplex. > >This is likely an SLP problem, tho, I guess, could be a spanning tree >matter. Here's something to talk about...We are not running SLP DAs. I looked at it a few months ago and it didn't seem like it was necessary for our environment and would add a complexity to it. NW 5.1 sp5, 300 PCs (Win2K and Win98). Any comments on this? > >One TCPIP related problem is duplicate IP addresses. > >Using "dynamic" addressing (that is, leases expire)? Then, if these are >win9x, it could be that windows is not releasing the DHCP address when >it should. 2k and XP do not seem to do that. There are a couple of >utilities (forgotten) and a registry hack (per MS) that can force an >address release. Also, it might not hurt to look and see if someone is >actually manually setting up their IP stuff. Happens. > We are running DHCP. We have a single 10.x.0.0 subnet with excluded ranges for servers, printers, switches and some workstations (mostly for firewall filtering purposes). There are two dynamic ranges with a 7-day lease. With the two ranges, this gives us over 500 available addresses for dynamic assignment. The 7-day lease has been the norm here for several years and we haven't seen duplicate IP addresses since I went to the 7-day lease, until recently. Your comment regarding Win9x and Win2K is interesting. We did start a Win2K rollout in November-December and it does seem that this could be a consideration. However, it has only been within the last few weeks that duplicate IP addresses started showing up. I did export the dhcp table and took a quick look before I went home last night. I noticed a couple that didn't have a lease time. The table is somewhat difficult to read because the dates are not showing up in date format. I tried importing it into Excel but date format didn't work on it. I also have DHCPSRVR running with the -D3 switch now so I can see what's going on. Is there a reference on how to read this and the DHCPTAB file? > >This came to a head > >a couple of days ago when a presentation was interrupted by a duplicate > >IP address error message (they've been told not to stay logged into the > > >network when giving presentations, but do they listen?). I patched > >DHCPSRVR to 3.12c and we still get them. I have more than enough IP > >addresses in the DHCP ranges, but the second range is not continuing > >past the 31st address. > >That does sound odd. Maybe it thinks there are free addresses below that >31st address. The thing is that in that 2nd range 10.x.x.1 to 10.x.x.31 are handed out; 10.x.x.32 to 10.x.x.254 are not being handed out. Everything in the first range is being handed out. > >Another issue is a continuing problem between the primary and secondary > > >domains on our GroupWise servers. The primary domain keeps saying that > >the > >secondary domain is closed and then open ("Domain now closed", "Domain > >now > >open") within a few seconds. It happens at sporadic intervals, but > >continues throughout the day. And we are experiencing some "transfer > >delayed" with internal GW messages going to the internal listserver > >which I > >believe are related to this domain problem. > >Sure sounds like comms issues. Maybe there is just a bad switch >somewhere? Router issue? Only router is between BM and Internet. More likely to be the Cisco Catalyst 4003 switch. Will look at this more closely. > > >In any case, some times there is no substitute for going hand over hand, >following cables. Could be a forgotten box, server, arc welder, >elevator motor, somehere (who knows?) that is creating problems. > >Do you have fiber links? Sometimes, if these were not installed >correctly, problems show up later, as emitters and receivers age. Media >converters flake out. People swap stuff and dirt gets in there. No fiber on this segment. >Still, it might be time to byte the bullet . . . (moving on) . . . and >do a couple of packet traces. It is intimidating at first, but, since >you seem to have patience and stick-to-itiv-ness, should not be too bad. We do have Etherpeek, but not a lot of experience at reading the stuff. Haven't been able to get a promiscuous mode driver to get error packets. I gave up trying to get the company to pay for a better laptop that I could put Win2K on. The one I have isn't supported by Sony anymore. It's got Win98 on it and Etherpeek only provides promiscuous drivers for the network card on Win2K. Actually, I keep meaning to contact WildPackets because I could have sworn that they had Win98 drivers when I placed the order. Then they had the fire and I had to wait to get the software. > >This is all happening at a time when I have two > >cabling projects going > >on (and new cablers who are not paying attention to > >my requirements), > >Show them the contract. > > >iFolder rollout, BM VPN rollout to > >selected staff and auditors on the >way. > >Aren't you glad you asked? > >discretion is my new motto. > > >Mary > >Hope you find this useful. Thanks, Joe! Mary >joea/ > >----------------------------------------- >Joe Acquisto >SUNY New Paltz >845-257-3134 (V) >845-257-6900 (F) >--------------------------------------------------- >Remember: once, everyone >"Knew" the world was flat. >--------------------------------------------------- > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From rcataldo at nuinet.com Fri Feb 7 12:29:55 2003 From: rcataldo at nuinet.com (rcataldo at nuinet.com) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 07:29:55 -0500 Subject: dos tcp/ip question Message-ID: <3E436073.7444.4EF1AF@localhost> Thanks for the responses. I forgot to mention I tried with Caldera Dos, MS dos 6.22 and Win98 DOS. I guess I'll just have to split the image to several files. Thanks again Bob Cataldo <><><><><><><><><><><> >>Problem: I have an IP boot disk to connect a laptop to a Netware 6 server. >> . . >>I can only see 2 gigs of storage space. I >>tested this with >>"conventional" storage and NSS >>storage. . . . >>Any ideas/suggestions? I want to back >>up my laptop with Ghost and it >>will take more than 2 gigs even with high >>compression. >> >>Thanks >>Bob Cataldo --------- From weaver at arches.uga.edu Fri Feb 7 12:31:06 2003 From: weaver at arches.uga.edu (Michael Weaver) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 07:31:06 -0500 Subject: TCPIP - Domestic or Null In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <076E172A-3A98-11D7-97CA-00039388DD42@arches.uga.edu> On Friday, February 7, 2003, at 07:19 AM, Joe Acquisto wrote: > But, there is another mud puddle here, touched on earlier. On Windows > platforms, at least, there is the matter of power on or reset actions > on > the part of the NIC, and what happens when the NIC driver loads and > "activates". In a discussion with tech support for one NIC vendor, we > established that there is no way to "firm code" their cards to power in > any way other than "auto". So, the NICS will power up (or when reset > presumably) in auto, even if the windows driver config is set to some > other configuration. That's sad. Didn't used to be that way. Time was you could configure the card, either by physical switching (jumpers, DIPs) or by a tool to let you set the registers in the NVRAM (EZStart for SMC, remember?). You could hard code everything. Some still let you do that, I think. Why did they change? Market pressure, I"d say. Takes more work to build a 'locked-in' configuration (tool and NVRAM). Easier to put a codeset that should work with most environments and override it with the driver. Why spend time writing support for the minority of cases when the majority is enough to pay the bills. The operative phrase for IT these days is "good enough." You see it in hardware, software, technicians, and companies. Take care, Mike -- Michael Weaver The University of Georgia, Athens Georgia EITS: Client Services Build: Novell Team weaver at arches.uga.edu 706-542-6462 From Mark.Puchalski at honigman.com Fri Feb 7 14:13:50 2003 From: Mark.Puchalski at honigman.com (Mark Puchalski) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 09:13:50 -0500 Subject: SAN Recommendations Message-ID: In preparation for our migration to Exchange 2000, we are working on choosing a SAN to place behind the clustered Exchange servers. We will also be moving various other application and file servers to the SAN as time goes on. Our current data center standard is Dell PowerEdge servers running a mix of NetWare 5.1/6 and Windows NT4/2000. We are looking at the Dell|EMC CX400 and CX600 SANs. In addition to these models, a consultant has proposed the IBM FAStT700 SAN. I'd be interested in getting feedback on performance, service, reliability, etc. from anyone running either of these SANs. 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URL: From jlindblom at mico.com Fri Feb 7 14:29:59 2003 From: jlindblom at mico.com (jlindblom at mico.com) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 08:29:59 -0600 Subject: TCPIP - Domestic or Null Message-ID: It looks like installing a service pack the domestic version is installed. Why would this be if it's recommended to run the null version. John Lindblom Network Administrator MICO, Inc. North Mankato, MN "Tim Heywood" To: Sent by: cc: novell-bounces at netla Subject: Re: TCPIP - Domestic or Null b1.usu.edu 02/06/2003 02:16 AM Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group The domestic IP stack is only user with BM and even then only with a VPN. No VPN? no need for encyption. Tim ************************* Tim Heywood Scotland (God's Country) Novell Support Connection SYSOP ************************* In theory, practice and theory are the same, In practice they are different! >>> maryve1 at starpower.net 02/06/03 00:18 AM >>> This is probably a stupid question, so please be kind... We are using the domestic TCPIP stack, mostly because I don't understand the difference between it and the null one and I knew we didn't want export. Well the export is no longer a choice anyway. However, I have noticed that Novell recommends using the null version, unless you are running BorderManager. We are using BorderManager 3.6. The question I have is this: We are using the domestic version across the board on all Netware servers. Should we be using domestic on the BorderManager server only and null on the others? Or, should we be consistent about it as we are doing now? We are having some TCPIP related problems (or, shall I say, possibly related), but I don't know if the problems we are having, if related to TCPIP, have to do with running the domestic stack. Nothing is abending. Mostly hiccups and slow response times. Mary _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From rgrein at nwlink.com Fri Feb 7 14:44:21 2003 From: rgrein at nwlink.com (Randy Grein) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 06:44:21 -0800 Subject: SAN Recommendations In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Friday, February 7, 2003, at 06:13 AM, Mark Puchalski wrote: > In preparation for our migration to Exchange 2000, we are working on > choosing a SAN to place behind the clustered Exchange servers.? We > will also be moving various other application and file servers to the > SAN as time goes on. > ? > Our current data center standard is Dell PowerEdge servers running a > mix of NetWare 5.1/6 and Windows NT4/2000.? We are looking at the > Dell|EMC CX400 and CX600 SANs.? In addition to these models, a > consultant has proposed the IBM FAStT700 SAN. > ? > I'd be interested in getting?feedback on performance, service, > reliability, etc. from anyone running either of these SANs. > ? > Thank you. Uh, waitasec - SAN performance is directly tied to the number of drives in the array divided by the number of hosts using them. Keep this in mind when reviewing answers and designing your system. To expand on this comment, a failover cluster with a dozen drives will be quite speedy - but the same cluster hosting 4 servers that are active at the same time will not be quite so fast. Bring the drive count down just a bit (I've seen 2 servers sharing 6 drives) and what seems like a very fast system will be downright sluggish in production. Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA From skiphefel at advanced-data.com Fri Feb 7 14:48:14 2003 From: skiphefel at advanced-data.com (Skip Hefel) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 08:48:14 -0600 Subject: SAN Recommendations Message-ID: <2C2609144800D611A50A006008F61227018113CE@AXIAL.advanced-data.com> We are using a XioTech, which we have the boot disks on the SAN, the SAN has a OS partition for each server is assigned to the QLogic card for bootup, and then you have your Shared "Clustered" partition. Not sure about Exchange clustering, good luck on that one. Skip Hefel -----Original Message----- From: Mark Puchalski [mailto:Mark.Puchalski at honigman.com] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 8:14 AM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: SAN Recommendations In preparation for our migration to Exchange 2000, we are working on choosing a SAN to place behind the clustered Exchange servers. We will also be moving various other application and file servers to the SAN as time goes on. Our current data center standard is Dell PowerEdge servers running a mix of NetWare 5.1/6 and Windows NT4/2000. We are looking at the Dell|EMC CX400 and CX600 SANs. In addition to these models, a consultant has proposed the IBM FAStT700 SAN. I'd be interested in getting feedback on performance, service, reliability, etc. from anyone running either of these SANs. Thank you. -------------------------------------------------------------- Mark A. Puchalski Network Engineer Honigman Miller Schwartz and Cohn LLP From rgrein at nwlink.com Fri Feb 7 14:51:23 2003 From: rgrein at nwlink.com (Randy Grein) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 06:51:23 -0800 Subject: TCPIP - Domestic or Null In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Friday, February 7, 2003, at 04:19 AM, Joe Acquisto wrote: >> ----------------------------------------- > Joe Acquisto > SUNY New Paltz > 845-257-3134 (V) > 845-257-6900 (F) > --------------------------------------------------- > Remember: once, everyone > "Knew" the world was flat. > --------------------------------------------------- > >>>> rgrein at nwlink.com 02/07/03 00:59 AM >>> >> >> On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 11:48 AM, Joe >> Acquisto wrote: > >>> . . . >> Not downloadable AFAIK. It's Network Maintenance and >Troubleshooting >> Guide by Fluke Networks. List price is $29, and you >> might be able to >> call Fluke for a copy if it's not out of print. >> 1800-283-5853. > >> BTW, Neil insists that setting one side of a >> connection to half duplex >> with the other side set to Auto does not always work, >so keep an eye >> out for a few persistent problems if you use this >> configuration. At >> least the number will be small enough that you can >> address each individually. >> >> Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA > > Good point. I guess I more or less said that was OK, in another post, > but I suspect it is not, in some cases. Here, we ran into this topic > head long, a few times, sometimes heatedly. > > But, there is another mud puddle here, touched on earlier. On Windows > platforms, at least, there is the matter of power on or reset actions > on > the part of the NIC, and what happens when the NIC driver loads and > "activates". In a discussion with tech support for one NIC vendor, we > established that there is no way to "firm code" their cards to power in > any way other than "auto". So, the NICS will power up (or when reset > presumably) in auto, even if the windows driver config is set to some > other configuration. > > Problematic still. > True - Neil covers that as well. Seems the same thing happens with some switches too. It's ugly, but the hardware doesn't interoperate the way it should, and we assume it does. Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA From AHidalgo at salud.unm.edu Fri Feb 7 15:00:45 2003 From: AHidalgo at salud.unm.edu (Al Hidalgo) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 08:00:45 -0700 Subject: SAN Recommendations Message-ID: We too are using XioTech, we also have a Dell/EMC but we are much happier with the XioTech. -a Al Hidalgo, MCNE Senior Analyst Information Systems University Hospitals ahidalgo at salud.unm.edu >>> skiphefel at advanced-data.com 2/7/03 7:48:14 AM >>> We are using a XioTech, which we have the boot disks on the SAN, the SAN has a OS partition for each server is assigned to the QLogic card for bootup, and then you have your Shared "Clustered" partition. Not sure about Exchange clustering, good luck on that one. Skip Hefel -----Original Message----- From: Mark Puchalski [mailto:Mark.Puchalski at honigman.com] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 8:14 AM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: SAN Recommendations In preparation for our migration to Exchange 2000, we are working on choosing a SAN to place behind the clustered Exchange servers. We will also be moving various other application and file servers to the SAN as time goes on. Our current data center standard is Dell PowerEdge servers running a mix of NetWare 5.1/6 and Windows NT4/2000. We are looking at the Dell|EMC CX400 and CX600 SANs. In addition to these models, a consultant has proposed the IBM FAStT700 SAN. I'd be interested in getting feedback on performance, service, reliability, etc. from anyone running either of these SANs. Thank you. -------------------------------------------------------------- Mark A. Puchalski Network Engineer Honigman Miller Schwartz and Cohn LLP _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From John at coastal.edu Fri Feb 7 15:07:58 2003 From: John at coastal.edu (John Hanna) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:07:58 -0500 Subject: FTP account restriction ? In-Reply-To: <2C2609144800D611A50A006008F61227018113CA@AXIAL.advanced-data.com> Message-ID: <001701c2ceba$b65d6c50$041478c7@ccu03722> Goto your web manager. (usually running on port 2200. HTTPS://:2200). Select FTP button. Under server settings it a setting for Maximum number of ftp sessions. I do not think this is per user though. This is for the entire service. I think the default is 30 sessions. >-----Original Message----- >From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu >[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Skip Hefel >Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 6:05 PM >To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' >Subject: FTP account restriction ? > > >Is there anyone that is using FTP services, we have a client >that will take up to 15 connections and upload about 5-6GB of >files. (voice files for long distance verifications) I >attempted to limit the connections to 5 in NDS, but this >doesn't take, I can disable the account, > >I need to know is there somewhere for the NWFTPD.NLM service, >can I in the ftpserv.cfg or ftprest.txt that I could specify >for "SESSIONS PER USER" to limit their connections. All those >files and connections tend to run my available cache memory >down to 1000 buffers until it pukes. (Unfortuately, besides >FTP, I'm running DHCPSRVR, local network routing(in process of >moving to a router), NDPS printing, viruse protection, Batch >files for the floor, ZFD import/export server, workstation >auditing, and the MASTER NDS server for 6 sites. > >Thanks >Skip Hefel >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > From mlkollmorgan at comcast.net Fri Feb 7 15:11:40 2003 From: mlkollmorgan at comcast.net (Mike Kollmorgan) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 10:11:40 -0500 Subject: Server utilization jumps to 99% every 3 to 5 minutes In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030206103329.00aa9228@pop3> Message-ID: <00f101c2cebb$378a4550$7101a8c0@lcs.com> I had a server using NW5.1 and BE 8.5. We have found that NWASPI.NLM in service packs 3,4,5 has a memory leak when used with BE 8.5. Using the NWASPI.NLM from SP2 will fix the problem. Actually I am not sure about SP3's NWASPI. The problem we had was similar. The server would run fine about 1 week and then show high utilization and poor response. When we increased the ram it would go for a longer period of time. That would follow for a memory leak problem. By the way. BE9 does not use NWASPI and therefore does not have that problem. We upgraded to BE9 and all is well now. Mike Kollmorgan Logical Computer Solutions > -----Original Message----- > From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu [mailto:novell- > bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Tim Clarke > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 5:37 AM > To: zzz; novell at netlab1.usu.edu > Subject: RE: Server utilization jumps to 99% every 3 to 5 minutes > > "Server:xx" threads belonging to SERVER.NLM. Useful, huh? > Dirty cache buffers are hovering around zero but there is fairly > constant disk activity. There are only 15 users on this server so > our deduction was that disk writes are being held up by the cpu > bound process. Only other stuff running is BackupExec 8.5 (I > really must go to 9 soon...) and the aforementioned NAV. > > At 18:43 05/02/2003 -0600, you wrote: > >In monitor or IMANAGE, what processes, threads, or NLMs are causing the > >high utilization? > > > >Thanks > > > >Dana > > > > >>> tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk 02/05/03 10:32AM >>> > >We get this once every two weeks or so. This dstrace didn't yield > >anything > >- i.e. when util. shot to 99%-100% and stayed there, the dstrace screen > > > >showed no extraordinary activity. I disabled NAV a while back in the > >hope > >that it was this and I've read the "high util" tids to no avail. Write > > > >queue, network queues all show no problems, it's only solved by a > >reboot. > >I've got a tech here saying that he's googled an article on Dell 2400s > >(our > >machine is a 2500) that exhibited the issue and attributed it to a > >shared > >interrupt. I'll let you all know, but if anyone else has any ideas I'd > >love > >'em to bits... > > Tim Clarke AMBCS MIAP > IT Director > Manifest > 9 Freebournes Court > Newland Street > Witham, Essex > CM8 2BL > England > > Phone: +44 1376 503500 > Fax: +44 1376 503550 > Email: tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk > Web: http://www.manifest.co.uk > > Manifest is the trading name of: > Manifest Information Services Ltd: Registered in England Number 3401145 & > The Manifest Voting Agency Ltd: Registered in England Number 2920820 > Registered Office at above address > > Copyright: This e-mail may contain confidential or legally privileged > information. If you are not the named addressee you must not use or > disclose such information, instead please report it to > administrators at manifest.co.uk > > Please see http://www.manifest.co.uk/privacy_policy.htm#e-mail for further > information. > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From mlkollmorgan at comcast.net Fri Feb 7 15:26:48 2003 From: mlkollmorgan at comcast.net (Mike Kollmorgan) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 10:26:48 -0500 Subject: dos tcp/ip question In-Reply-To: <3E436073.7444.4EF1AF@localhost> Message-ID: <00f201c2cebd$54c2ab60$7101a8c0@lcs.com> You mentioned DR-DOS (Caldera DOS). I believe there is a FAT32 patch for DR-DOS that may allow it to extend beyond 2 GIG. Go to www.drdos.net. Good Luck. Mike Kollmorgan Logical Computer Solutions > -----Original Message----- > From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu [mailto:novell- > bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of rcataldo at nuinet.com > Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 7:30 AM > To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu > Subject: Re: dos tcp/ip question > > Thanks for the responses. I forgot to > mention I tried with Caldera Dos, MS dos > 6.22 and Win98 DOS. I guess I'll just have > to split the image to several files. > > Thanks again > Bob Cataldo > > <><><><><><><><><><><> > >>Problem: I have an IP boot disk to > connect a laptop to a Netware 6 server. > >> > . > . > >>I can only see 2 gigs of storage space. I > >>tested this with > >>"conventional" storage and NSS > >>storage. > . > . > . > >>Any ideas/suggestions? I want to back > >>up my laptop with Ghost and it > >>will take more than 2 gigs even with high > >>compression. > >> > >>Thanks > >>Bob Cataldo > --------- > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From dgitter at goinfotek.com Fri Feb 7 15:38:29 2003 From: dgitter at goinfotek.com (Dave Gitter) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:38:29 -0500 Subject: Slow Performance Problem Message-ID: <0b7901c2cebe$f68bf270$6601a8c0@goinfotek.com> I have finally found the problem !! It seems that the the NF3400 has an embedded Intel NIC with an 8255x chipset. Apparently, the driver that it uses (CE100B) is defective. The drivers from Novell and from Intel both have a problem. (Novell's drivers on SP2 = Intel's current driver) I found this technote on Novells website: =========================== TID#: 10077487 Title: Swapping CE100B.LAN for N100.LAN Notes: CE100B.LAN drivers have been discovered to be the cause of problems including communication problems (504 Gateway errors), packet loss, and even reboots. For Intel Pro/100 cards using the 8255x chipset, the CE100B.LAN driver can be swapped with N100.LAN from Compaq, which uses the same chipset. Thanks for everyones input..... Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Gitter To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Cc: Dave Gitter - GO Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 10:22 PM Subject: Slow Performance Problem Hi all, I have been having some real problems trying to troubleshoot this problem. This problem seemed to arise only on my Windows XP machines and after upgrading from NW 5.1. Any insights would be greatly appreciated. Dave Gitter GO InfoTek ------------------ PROBLEMS =========== Reads & writes to the server seem to drag most of the day. Network Login is pretty slow. The login script seems to delay between displaying the context info and displaying drive mappings. Directory displays (especially in apps like word & excel) sometimes take over 10 seconds to display. Apps like QuickBooks run really slow if the data file is on the server. These problems occur sporadically throughout the day with no identifiable pattern. Even if there are only 3 or 4 users on the system (doing basically nothing) these problems arise. TROUBLESHOOTING DONE TO DATE ============================= Replace NIC in Server DSRepair & Vrepair Isolate test users on a separate Netgear 5 port 10/100 switch Tried running nw client in IPX only mode Tried running nw client in IP only mode Tried running nw client with and without post SP1 updates Server: ====== NetWare sbs v6 (upgraded from 5.1) Micron Netframe 3400 / P3 700mhz 512mb RAM Switches: ======== 2 - Allied Telesyn AT-8124XL (24port 10/100 Managed) Workstations: =========== Intel D815EEA2L System Board 256mb RAM Celeron 900mhz Novell Client v4.83 SP1 (with post SP1 patches installed) Integrated 10/100 NIC Windows XP Pro - SP1 From jgroetsema at uop.edu Fri Feb 7 15:34:13 2003 From: jgroetsema at uop.edu (Jeff Groetsema) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 07:34:13 -0800 Subject: TCPIP - Domestic or Null Message-ID: I suspect this is based on the Fluke book, especially since it's from Fluke. Good white paper on link negotiation issues http://searchNetworking.com/r/0,,9017,00.htm?flukenetworks Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu >>> rgrein at nwlink.com 02/06/03 09:58PM >>> On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 11:48 AM, Joe Acquisto wrote: >> Fluke has an excellent book on the subject of basic >> analysis that covers auto negotiation VERY well. It >> is short, approachable and definitive - everything >> you need in a book of this type. >> . . . >> Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA > > Where can I find this book? Downloadable? > > joea/ Not downloadable AFAIK. It's Network Maintenance and Troubleshooting Guide by Fluke Networks. List price is $29, and you might be able to call Fluke for a copy if it's not out of print. 1-800-283-5853. BTW, Neil insists that setting one side of a connection to half duplex with the other side set to Auto does not always work, so keep an eye out for a few persistent problems if you use this configuration. At least the number will be small enough that you can address each individually. Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From JRD at cc.usu.edu Fri Feb 7 14:35:26 2003 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 08:35:26 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Slow Performance Problem Message-ID: <01KS5EYL9LZMAYLDER@cc.usu.edu> >I have finally found the problem !! > >It seems that the the NF3400 has an embedded Intel NIC with an 8255x >chipset. > >Apparently, the driver that it uses (CE100B) is defective. The drivers >from Novell and from Intel both have a problem. (Novell's drivers on SP2 = >Intel's current driver) I think folks have this turned upside down. The CE100B driver is fine. Zillions of copies are in happy use. The problem is likely the glue logic on the Compaq gear is not done correctly to emulate what a REAL Intel Ethernet board does. Embedded controllers are subject to such design errors. Insert a real Intel board to see if this appies to your equipment. Joe D. From John at coastal.edu Fri Feb 7 15:39:35 2003 From: John at coastal.edu (John Hanna) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:39:35 -0500 Subject: DHCP Audit trails In-Reply-To: <3E4389FF.94C7CBB@cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: <003601c2cebf$20ddd700$041478c7@ccu03722> Yes, That was the first thing I checked. I figured I had forgotten to load it on that server, but "Modules" command shows that it is running. >-----Original Message----- >From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu >[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Simon Flood >Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 5:27 AM >To: Novell LAN Interest Group >Subject: Re: DHCP Audit trails > > >On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 16:58:16 -0500 John Hanna wrote: > >> I have one server that when I select "View Audit Trail log" in >> DNS/DHCP Management Console, it pulls nothing up and >immediately says >> done. Same thing happens if I select "View events/alerts". I have >> "Audit trails and alerts options" set to "All". Has anyone seen or >> experienced this? If not, Anyone have an idea on what I >should look >> for to fix? > >Is CSATPXY.NLM loaded on the server? > >HTH > >Simon >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > From Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com Fri Feb 7 16:13:49 2003 From: Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com (Peter Van Lone) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:13:49 -0600 Subject: Server utilization jumps to 99% every 3 to 5 minutes Message-ID: Hmmm .. That's a great thought -- might be worth it. Also, if you use BE8.5 you can use the becdm.cdm (and NOT use nwaspi) -- there is a switch to use in bestart.ncf (I don't rememeber it but there is a veritas tid about it) -----Original Message----- From: Mike Kollmorgan [mailto:mlkollmorgan at comcast.net] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 9:12 AM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: Server utilization jumps to 99% every 3 to 5 minutes I had a server using NW5.1 and BE 8.5. We have found that NWASPI.NLM in service packs 3,4,5 has a memory leak when used with BE 8.5. Using the NWASPI.NLM from SP2 will fix the problem. Actually I am not sure about SP3's NWASPI. The problem we had was similar. The server would run fine about 1 week and then show high utilization and poor response. When we increased the ram it would go for a longer period of time. That would follow for a memory leak problem. By the way. BE9 does not use NWASPI and therefore does not have that problem. We upgraded to BE9 and all is well now. Mike Kollmorgan Logical Computer Solutions > -----Original Message----- > From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu [mailto:novell- > bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Tim Clarke > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 5:37 AM > To: zzz; novell at netlab1.usu.edu > Subject: RE: Server utilization jumps to 99% every 3 to 5 minutes > > "Server:xx" threads belonging to SERVER.NLM. Useful, huh? Dirty cache > buffers are hovering around zero but there is fairly constant disk > activity. There are only 15 users on this server so our deduction was > that disk writes are being held up by the cpu bound process. Only > other stuff running is BackupExec 8.5 (I really must go to 9 soon...) > and the aforementioned NAV. > > At 18:43 05/02/2003 -0600, you wrote: > >In monitor or IMANAGE, what processes, threads, or NLMs are causing > >the high utilization? > > > >Thanks > > > >Dana > > > > >>> tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk 02/05/03 10:32AM >>> > >We get this once every two weeks or so. This dstrace didn't yield > >anything > >- i.e. when util. shot to 99%-100% and stayed there, the dstrace > >screen > > > >showed no extraordinary activity. I disabled NAV a while back in the > >hope that it was this and I've read the "high util" tids to no avail. > >Write > > > >queue, network queues all show no problems, it's only solved by a > >reboot. I've got a tech here saying that he's googled an article on > >Dell 2400s (our > >machine is a 2500) that exhibited the issue and attributed it to a > >shared > >interrupt. I'll let you all know, but if anyone else has any ideas I'd > >love > >'em to bits... > > Tim Clarke AMBCS MIAP > IT Director > Manifest > 9 Freebournes Court > Newland Street > Witham, Essex > CM8 2BL > England > > Phone: +44 1376 503500 > Fax: +44 1376 503550 > Email: tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk > Web: http://www.manifest.co.uk > > Manifest is the trading name of: > Manifest Information Services Ltd: Registered in England Number > 3401145 & The Manifest Voting Agency Ltd: Registered in England Number > 2920820 Registered Office at above address > > Copyright: This e-mail may contain confidential or legally privileged > information. If you are not the named addressee you must not use or > disclose such information, instead please report it to > administrators at manifest.co.uk > > Please see http://www.manifest.co.uk/privacy_policy.htm#e-mail for > further information. > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com Fri Feb 7 16:20:42 2003 From: Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com (Peter Van Lone) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:20:42 -0600 Subject: Slow Performance Problem Message-ID: I suspect too that you are right Joe -- Generally I have had very good luck with the ce100b drivers -- and if not, then I would suspect FIRST that the underlying hardware is not genuine intel (ie modified by cpq, etc ....) Also have had good luck with the n100.lan though -- so if it is a cpq server using a cpq nic (built in or otherwise) then the n100 may be the way to go. p -----Original Message----- From: Joe Doupnik [mailto:JRD at cc.usu.edu] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 8:35 AM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: Re: Slow Performance Problem >I have finally found the problem !! > >It seems that the the NF3400 has an embedded Intel NIC with an 8255x >chipset. > >Apparently, the driver that it uses (CE100B) is defective. The drivers >from Novell and from Intel both have a problem. (Novell's drivers on >SP2 = Intel's current driver) I think folks have this turned upside down. The CE100B driver is fine. Zillions of copies are in happy use. The problem is likely the glue logic on the Compaq gear is not done correctly to emulate what a REAL Intel Ethernet board does. Embedded controllers are subject to such design errors. Insert a real Intel board to see if this appies to your equipment. Joe D. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From prandal at herefordshire.gov.uk Fri Feb 7 16:40:54 2003 From: prandal at herefordshire.gov.uk (Randal, Phil) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 16:40:54 -0000 Subject: Server utilization jumps to 99% every 3 to 5 minutes Message-ID: <0EBC45FCABFC95428EBFC3A51B368C95513621@jessica.herefordshire.gov.uk> ------ bestart.ncf ----- SEARCH ADD SYS:BKUPEXEC\NLMS\ LOAD BKUPEXEC.NLM -tl -aa -dy -tc -s -b ------------------------ Note: Use the latest BE8.5 build from support.veritas.com for this to work. Cheers, Phil --------------------------------------------- Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Van Lone [mailto:Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com] > Sent: 07 February 2003 16:14 > To: Novell LAN Interest Group > Subject: RE: Server utilization jumps to 99% every 3 to 5 minutes > > > Hmmm .. > > That's a great thought -- might be worth it. Also, if you use > BE8.5 you > can use the becdm.cdm (and NOT use nwaspi) -- there is a switch to use > in bestart.ncf (I don't rememeber it but there is a veritas tid about > it) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Kollmorgan [mailto:mlkollmorgan at comcast.net] > Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 9:12 AM > To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' > Subject: RE: Server utilization jumps to 99% every 3 to 5 minutes > > > I had a server using NW5.1 and BE 8.5. We have found that > NWASPI.NLM in > service packs 3,4,5 has a memory leak when used with BE 8.5. > Using the > NWASPI.NLM from SP2 will fix the problem. Actually I am not > sure about > SP3's NWASPI. The problem we had was similar. The server would run > fine about 1 week and then show high utilization and poor response. > When we increased the ram it would go for a longer period of > time. That > would follow for a memory leak problem. By the way. BE9 does not use > NWASPI and therefore does not have that problem. We upgraded > to BE9 and > all is well now. > > Mike Kollmorgan > Logical Computer Solutions > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu [mailto:novell- > > bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Tim Clarke > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 5:37 AM > > To: zzz; novell at netlab1.usu.edu > > Subject: RE: Server utilization jumps to 99% every 3 to 5 minutes > > > > "Server:xx" threads belonging to SERVER.NLM. Useful, huh? > Dirty cache > > buffers are hovering around zero but there is fairly constant disk > > activity. There are only 15 users on this server so our > deduction was > > that disk writes are being held up by the cpu bound process. Only > > other stuff running is BackupExec 8.5 (I really must go to > 9 soon...) > > and the aforementioned NAV. > > > > At 18:43 05/02/2003 -0600, you wrote: > > >In monitor or IMANAGE, what processes, threads, or NLMs > are causing > > >the high utilization? > > > > > >Thanks > > > > > >Dana > > > > > > >>> tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk 02/05/03 10:32AM >>> > > >We get this once every two weeks or so. This dstrace didn't yield > > >anything > > >- i.e. when util. shot to 99%-100% and stayed there, the dstrace > > >screen > > > > > >showed no extraordinary activity. I disabled NAV a while > back in the > > >hope that it was this and I've read the "high util" tids > to no avail. > > > >Write > > > > > >queue, network queues all show no problems, it's only solved by a > > >reboot. I've got a tech here saying that he's googled an > article on > > >Dell 2400s (our > > >machine is a 2500) that exhibited the issue and attributed it to a > > >shared > > >interrupt. I'll let you all know, but if anyone else has any ideas > I'd > > >love > > >'em to bits... > > > > Tim Clarke AMBCS MIAP > > IT Director > > Manifest > > 9 Freebournes Court > > Newland Street > > Witham, Essex > > CM8 2BL > > England > > > > Phone: +44 1376 503500 > > Fax: +44 1376 503550 > > Email: tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk > > Web: http://www.manifest.co.uk > > > > Manifest is the trading name of: > > Manifest Information Services Ltd: Registered in England Number > > 3401145 & The Manifest Voting Agency Ltd: Registered in > England Number > > > 2920820 Registered Office at above address > > > > Copyright: This e-mail may contain confidential or legally > privileged > > information. If you are not the named addressee you must not use or > > disclose such information, instead please report it to > > administrators at manifest.co.uk > > > > Please see http://www.manifest.co.uk/privacy_policy.htm#e-mail for > > further information. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Novell mailing list > > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > From skiphefel at advanced-data.com Fri Feb 7 17:28:42 2003 From: skiphefel at advanced-data.com (Skip Hefel) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 11:28:42 -0600 Subject: dos tcp/ip question Message-ID: <2C2609144800D611A50A006008F61227018113CF@AXIAL.advanced-data.com> If you use Dr-DOS, it has no volume limit. -----Original Message----- From: Joe Doupnik [mailto:JRD at cc.usu.edu] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 6:59 PM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: Re: dos tcp/ip question >Problem: I have an IP boot disk to connect a laptop to a Netware 6 >server. >>I can log on to the server with no problem. > >I can only see 2 gigs of storage space. I tested this with >"conventional" storage and NSS storage. > >I have browsed through the listserv archives and Novell and can not find >a reference on this. The only thing I found in the archives was the >startnet.bat setup and net.cfg setup ( which are like mine ). > >Any ideas/suggestions? I want to back up my laptop with Ghost and it >will take more than 2 gigs even with high compression. > >Thanks >Bob Cataldo --------- DOS itself has a 2GB limit on everything. Joe D. _______________________________________________ From JRD at cc.usu.edu Fri Feb 7 16:41:24 2003 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 10:41:24 -0600 (MDT) Subject: dos tcp/ip question Message-ID: <01KS5JFANJW2AYLDL2@cc.usu.edu> > >If you use Dr-DOS, it has no volume limit. Please have another look at its fdisk program. Joe D. From cdurnal at fwlaw.com Fri Feb 7 18:00:49 2003 From: cdurnal at fwlaw.com (Chet Durnal) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 11:00:49 -0700 Subject: The Credentials supplied..... Message-ID: Every time a user logs in, she gets: "An error occurred while reconnecting N: to \\FWFS2\sys; the credentials supplied conflict with an existing set of credentials" Novell says to update the client, but that did not solve the problem. I get this same message regardless of the PC I login as that user. Any ideas? Thanks From Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com Fri Feb 7 18:04:35 2003 From: Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com (Peter Van Lone) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 12:04:35 -0600 Subject: The Credentials supplied..... Message-ID: Well we need way more info -- Is fwfs2 a netware server, or a windows server running nw pretend mode(this error sounds like a windows error)? Version? Patch level? Protocols used on client? ....... -----Original Message----- From: Chet Durnal [mailto:cdurnal at fwlaw.com] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 12:01 PM To: Novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: The Credentials supplied..... Every time a user logs in, she gets: "An error occurred while reconnecting N: to \\FWFS2\sys; the credentials supplied conflict with an existing set of credentials" Novell says to update the client, but that did not solve the problem. I get this same message regardless of the PC I login as that user. Any ideas? Thanks _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From cdurnal at fwlaw.com Fri Feb 7 18:30:18 2003 From: cdurnal at fwlaw.com (Chet Durnal) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 11:30:18 -0700 Subject: The Credentials supplied..... Message-ID: FWFS2 is a netware 5.0 server at the most recent patch level; user is on a windows 2000 PC. client uses both ip and ipx >>> Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com 02/07/2003 11:04:35 AM >>> Well we need way more info -- Is fwfs2 a netware server, or a windows server running nw pretend mode(this error sounds like a windows error)? Version? Patch level? Protocols used on client? ....... -----Original Message----- From: Chet Durnal [mailto:cdurnal at fwlaw.com] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 12:01 PM To: Novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: The Credentials supplied..... Every time a user logs in, she gets: "An error occurred while reconnecting N: to \\FWFS2\sys; the credentials supplied conflict with an existing set of credentials" Novell says to update the client, but that did not solve the problem. I get this same message regardless of the PC I login as that user. Any ideas? Thanks _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com Fri Feb 7 18:35:20 2003 From: Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com (Peter Van Lone) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 12:35:20 -0600 Subject: The Credentials supplied..... Message-ID: OK -- It sounds like she has a 'persistent' drive mapping setup in windows. Have her use explorer to highlight the drive mapping, right-click on it and choose "disconnect" I think she may get asked about whether she wants to reconnect next time (say no ....). Then have her restart. I'm thinking probably the error will be gone .... -----Original Message----- From: Chet Durnal [mailto:cdurnal at fwlaw.com] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 12:30 PM To: Peter Van Lone; novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: RE: The Credentials supplied..... FWFS2 is a netware 5.0 server at the most recent patch level; user is on a windows 2000 PC. client uses both ip and ipx >>> Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com 02/07/2003 11:04:35 AM >>> Well we need way more info -- Is fwfs2 a netware server, or a windows server running nw pretend mode(this error sounds like a windows error)? Version? Patch level? Protocols used on client? ....... -----Original Message----- From: Chet Durnal [mailto:cdurnal at fwlaw.com] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 12:01 PM To: Novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: The Credentials supplied..... Every time a user logs in, she gets: "An error occurred while reconnecting N: to \\FWFS2\sys; the credentials supplied conflict with an existing set of credentials" Novell says to update the client, but that did not solve the problem. I get this same message regardless of the PC I login as that user. Any ideas? Thanks _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From acquistj at lan.newpaltz.edu Fri Feb 7 18:37:14 2003 From: acquistj at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 13:37:14 -0500 Subject: TCPIP - Domestic or Null Message-ID: >>... >>This is likely an SLP problem, tho, I guess, could be a spanning tree >>matter. > >Here's something to talk about...We are not running SLP DAs. I looked at >it >a few months ago and it didn't seem like it was necessary for our >environment and would add a complexity to it. NW 5.1 sp5, 300 PCs >(Win2K >and Win98). Any comments on this? Only to recommend that you run a DA. Set the IP address of that DA in the appropriate area of the NW client. You can set this also in your DHCP config, to provide SLP DA info. Note that the 2000 client seems to uncheck SLP on power up, sometimes. Seems to be after an abnormal shutdown, mostly. >> >One TCPIP related problem is duplicate IP addresses. >> >>Using "dynamic" addressing (that is, leases expire)? Then, if these >>are >>win9x, it could be that windows is not releasing the DHCP address when >>it should. 2k and XP do not seem to do that. There are a couple of >>utilities (forgotten) and a registry hack (per MS) that can force an >>address release. Also, it might not hurt to look and see if someone is >>actually manually setting up their IP stuff. Happens. >> > . . . >I did export the dhcp table and took a quick look before I went home >last >night. I noticed a couple that didn't have a lease time. The table is >somewhat difficult to read because the dates are not showing up in date >format. I tried importing it into Excel but date format didn't work on >it. >I also have DHCPSRVR running with the -D3 switch now so I can see what's >going on. Is there a reference on how to read this and the DHCPTAB file? I don't know of one. The RFC for DHCP probably defines the date format. >>. . . >The thing is that in that 2nd range 10.x.x.1 to 10.x.x.31 are handed >out; >10.x.x.32 to 10.x.x.254 are not being handed out. >Everything in the first range is being handed out. These are seperate ranges? Maybe they are not in the same "pool". (I'm not near a box, so I may be fogged) I had something like that happen. Tho I was sure I had done so, I found I had not put one subnet into the pool, so it refused to hand out addresses. (And, we know, the nlm must be unloaded/reloaded to accept changes.) >>... >>Sure sounds like comms issues. Maybe there is just a bad switch >>somewhere? Router issue? >Only router is between BM and Internet. More likely to be the Cisco >Catalyst 4003 switch. Will look at this more closely. > . . . > >Thanks, Joe! > >Mary Welcome joea/ ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- Remember: once, everyone "Knew" the world was flat. --------------------------------------------------- From skiphefel at advanced-data.com Fri Feb 7 18:49:08 2003 From: skiphefel at advanced-data.com (Skip Hefel) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 12:49:08 -0600 Subject: dos tcp/ip question Message-ID: <2C2609144800D611A50A006008F61227018113D2@AXIAL.advanced-data.com> Up to 8GB http://www.drdos.net/faq/index.htm#p2_6 -----Original Message----- From: Mike Kollmorgan [mailto:mlkollmorgan at comcast.net] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 9:27 AM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: dos tcp/ip question You mentioned DR-DOS (Caldera DOS). I believe there is a FAT32 patch for DR-DOS that may allow it to extend beyond 2 GIG. Go to www.drdos.net. Good Luck. Mike Kollmorgan Logical Computer Solutions > -----Original Message----- > From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu [mailto:novell- > bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of rcataldo at nuinet.com > Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 7:30 AM > To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu > Subject: Re: dos tcp/ip question > > Thanks for the responses. I forgot to > mention I tried with Caldera Dos, MS dos > 6.22 and Win98 DOS. I guess I'll just have > to split the image to several files. > > Thanks again > Bob Cataldo > > <><><><><><><><><><><> > >>Problem: I have an IP boot disk to > connect a laptop to a Netware 6 server. > >> > . > . > >>I can only see 2 gigs of storage space. I > >>tested this with > >>"conventional" storage and NSS > >>storage. > . > . > . > >>Any ideas/suggestions? I want to back > >>up my laptop with Ghost and it > >>will take more than 2 gigs even with high > >>compression. > >> > >>Thanks > >>Bob Cataldo > --------- > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From dgitter at goinfotek.com Fri Feb 7 19:19:30 2003 From: dgitter at goinfotek.com (Dave Gitter) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 14:19:30 -0500 Subject: Slow Performance Problem References: <20030207172925.DB1FBAFEF@netlab1.usu.edu> Message-ID: <0bc201c2cedd$d739f830$6601a8c0@goinfotek.com> That's not the case with me. The server is a Micron NF3400 that has an embedded Intel Nic. I also tried a separate PCI Intel Branded NIC that was in the server as well. I do not have any Compaq equip, I am just using the driver as suggested in the TID. This server had run fine with NW5.1. The problem arised after the NW6 upgrade. The driver rev in SP2 is the same as the driver on Intel's website. I am still getting some reports of users getting thrown out of GroupWise and an I/O intensive MS Access application. However, the major performance issues seem to have been resolved by the change of driver. I think I am probably going to drop in a 3Com 3C980b. Being that this is supposedly a "Server" NIC, I am hoping for a little better performance. Dave > -----Original Message----- >Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:20:42 -0600 > From: "Peter Van Lone" > To: "Novell LAN Interest Group" > Subject: RE: Slow Performance Problem > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="us-ascii" > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Precedence: list > Reply-To: Novell LAN Interest Group > Message: 23 > > I suspect too that you are right Joe -- > > Generally I have had very good luck with the ce100b drivers -- and if > not, then I would suspect FIRST that the underlying hardware is not > genuine intel (ie modified by cpq, etc ....) > > Also have had good luck with the n100.lan though -- so if it is a cpq > server using a cpq nic (built in or otherwise) then the n100 may be the > way to go. > > > p > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Doupnik [mailto:JRD at cc.usu.edu]=20 > Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 8:35 AM > To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu > Subject: Re: Slow Performance Problem > > > >I have finally found the problem !! > > > >It seems that the the NF3400 has an embedded Intel NIC with an 8255x=20 > >chipset. > > > >Apparently, the driver that it uses (CE100B) is defective. The drivers > > >from Novell and from Intel both have a problem. (Novell's drivers on=20 > >SP2 =3D Intel's current driver) > > I think folks have this turned upside down. The CE100B driver is > fine. Zillions of copies are in happy use. The problem is likely the > glue logic on the Compaq gear is not done correctly to emulate what a > REAL Intel Ethernet board does. Embedded controllers are subject to such > design errors. Insert a real Intel board to see if this appies to your > equipment. > Joe D. > From JRD at cc.usu.edu Fri Feb 7 18:43:38 2003 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 12:43:38 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Slow Performance Problem Message-ID: <01KS5NLWBZQAAYLE2I@cc.usu.edu> >That's not the case with me. > >The server is a Micron NF3400 that has an embedded Intel Nic. I also tried >a separate PCI Intel Branded NIC that was in the server as well. I do not >have any Compaq equip, I am just using the driver as suggested in the TID. > >This server had run fine with NW5.1. The problem arised after the NW6 >upgrade. The driver rev in SP2 is the same as the driver on Intel's >website. > >I am still getting some reports of users getting thrown out of GroupWise and >an I/O intensive MS Access application. However, the major performance >issues seem to have been resolved by the change of driver. I think I am >probably going to drop in a 3Com 3C980b. Being that this is supposedly a >"Server" NIC, I am hoping for a little better performance. > >Dave ------------ To flog an old horse, I presume you have gone to the driver's .LDI text file and have engaged TXTHRESHOLD and defaulted it to 200. If not then rotten comms are the norm. It will then show in inetcfg, and you can activate a change in real time by reinitialize system at the command prompt (no server down needed). If this matter is news to you then may I recommend going to the list's FAQ on http://netlab1.usu.edu/ and click the Search the FAQ button. Ask about txthreshold or about e100b. This is not the list's archive file. Joe D. > -----Original Message----- >Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:20:42 -0600 > From: "Peter Van Lone" > To: "Novell LAN Interest Group" > Subject: RE: Slow Performance Problem > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="us-ascii" > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Precedence: list > Reply-To: Novell LAN Interest Group > Message: 23 > > I suspect too that you are right Joe -- > > Generally I have had very good luck with the ce100b drivers -- and if > not, then I would suspect FIRST that the underlying hardware is not > genuine intel (ie modified by cpq, etc ....) > > Also have had good luck with the n100.lan though -- so if it is a cpq > server using a cpq nic (built in or otherwise) then the n100 may be the > way to go. > > > p > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Doupnik [mailto:JRD at cc.usu.edu]=20 > Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 8:35 AM > To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu > Subject: Re: Slow Performance Problem > > > >I have finally found the problem !! > > > >It seems that the the NF3400 has an embedded Intel NIC with an 8255x=20 > >chipset. > > > >Apparently, the driver that it uses (CE100B) is defective. The drivers > > >from Novell and from Intel both have a problem. (Novell's drivers on=20 > >SP2 =3D Intel's current driver) > > I think folks have this turned upside down. The CE100B driver is > fine. Zillions of copies are in happy use. The problem is likely the > glue logic on the Compaq gear is not done correctly to emulate what a > REAL Intel Ethernet board does. Embedded controllers are subject to such > design errors. Insert a real Intel board to see if this appies to your > equipment. > Joe D. > _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From JRD at cc.usu.edu Fri Feb 7 18:52:21 2003 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 12:52:21 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Slow Performance Problem Message-ID: <01KS5O0NC81UAYLE2Y@cc.usu.edu> One more hint on this topic. Due to forces outside of our control the minimum size for a receive packet buffer has increased to 2048 bytes. Not a byte less. Use Monitor to set this and reboot for it to become effective. Joe D. From Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com Fri Feb 7 21:34:35 2003 From: Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com (Peter Van Lone) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 15:34:35 -0600 Subject: Slow Performance Problem Message-ID: Awesome -- Just to clear some things up in my mind ... I had (wrongly?) believed that using the ce100b.lan drivers (as opposed to e100b) the txthreshold defaulted automagically to 200 -- having just now looked at the LDI I find that the prompt is hidden and the suggested default is 0. Hmm .... I wonder if that 0 means "do no early tx at all ....." Also -- regarding the minimum physical receive packet size value of 2048 -- can you address this a bit technically (why do we need the setting, what is the memory or other impact, ect ....)? I have come to believe over the last year or so that leaving it at the default of 4224 is appropriate, where always before it had been my practice to set it to the ethernet frame size. Is there a (signifigant) penalty for leaving it at the high default? And what is the situation that requires this to be set no less than 2048 (is the info above ethernet frame size auto negotiate and link status stuff from the mac layer, or what?) Several years ago it was thought 1514 saved ram. Then 1518 was thought safer because it allowed space for async or pppoe info should that be needed, now ... 2048. Thx Joe -- we all I think appreciate the engineering level info when we can get it. ..... peter -----Original Message----- From: Joe Doupnik [mailto:JRD at cc.usu.edu] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 12:52 PM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: Re: Slow Performance Problem One more hint on this topic. Due to forces outside of our control the minimum size for a receive packet buffer has increased to 2048 bytes. Not a byte less. Use Monitor to set this and reboot for it to become effective. Joe D. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com Fri Feb 7 21:42:39 2003 From: Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com (Peter Van Lone) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 15:42:39 -0600 Subject: Novell Web Site Message-ID: Opp locks stands for opportunistic locking -- which is a process of allowing clients to identify when it would be safe to locally cache and lock as open a file. (please others with better defintions or corrections jump right in!) For some time now there have been various issues with filsys.nlm on the server and at the client that have made it so that with this process enabled perfromance either is very bad or there are weird file access problems. So the default suggestion has been to disable it. I have seen this to be less necessary with NW6, but I still disable it anyway as a default just because ...... On the server, monitor/server parameters/ncp/client file caching enable = off On the client, NW client advanced settings/performance cache parameter group/ file caching (I have generally not needed to do the client side in order to fix the issue -- others have experienced otherwise....) p -----Original Message----- From: John Hanna [mailto:John at coastal.edu] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 2:48 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: Novell Web Site Excuse my ignorance here. What is Op locks? >-----Original Message----- >From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu >[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Peter Van Lone >Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 12:17 AM >To: Novell LAN Interest Group >Subject: RE: Novell Web Site > > >Also check www.ithowto.com > >But I'll bet it is op locks and/or nic auto detect ... > >Also, you don't say how much storage space the server has, but >512 mb is not a lot of ram (that is not it, just an aside ...) > >-----Original Message----- >From: Fred James [mailto:fubarsnafu69 at yahoo.com] >Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:25 PM >To: Novell LAN Interest Group >Subject: Re: Novell Web Site > >works fine for me with mozilla 1.2.1 > > >--- "Steven W. Smith" wrote: >> Dave Moon wrote: >> >Anyone have problems with Novell's website. We keep getting LInk >> broken. >> >> It seems more broken, er, IE-enhanced than normal lately. Using >> either Netscape or Mozilla, many pages launch into a stupid "404 & >> reload" spasm. I've had better luck using IE under Windows, and >> Konqueror w/ Linux. >> >> Example: using Mozilla 1.0.1/Linux, I enter the url >> http://www.novell.com/company/advertising/index.html >> As it starts loading, the url gets rewritten to >> http://www.novell.com/company/advertising/') and goes into the >> constantly-reloading-404-page thing. >> >> HTH >> >> Steven W. Smith, Systems Programmer >> Glendale Community College. Glendale Az. syssws at gc.maricopa.edu Did I >> mention how desperately I want more Nigerian pen pals? >> _______________________________________________ >> Novell mailing list >> Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From John at coastal.edu Fri Feb 7 21:51:25 2003 From: John at coastal.edu (John Hanna) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 16:51:25 -0500 Subject: Novell Web Site In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <00a401c2cef3$12b34af0$041478c7@ccu03722> Thanks. Yeah I checked and I have that turned off on the servers. I had never heard it referred to as "Opp locks" before. Thanks again. >-----Original Message----- >From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu >[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Peter Van Lone >Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 4:43 PM >To: Novell LAN Interest Group >Subject: RE: Novell Web Site > > >Opp locks stands for opportunistic locking -- which is a >process of allowing clients to identify when it would be safe >to locally cache and lock as open a file. (please others with >better defintions or corrections jump right in!) > >For some time now there have been various issues with >filsys.nlm on the server and at the client that have made it >so that with this process enabled perfromance either is very >bad or there are weird file access problems. So the default >suggestion has been to disable it. > >I have seen this to be less necessary with NW6, but I still >disable it anyway as a default just because ...... > >On the server, monitor/server parameters/ncp/client file >caching enable = off On the client, NW client advanced >settings/performance cache parameter group/ file caching > >(I have generally not needed to do the client side in order to >fix the issue -- others have experienced otherwise....) > >p > >-----Original Message----- >From: John Hanna [mailto:John at coastal.edu] >Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 2:48 PM >To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' >Subject: RE: Novell Web Site > > >Excuse my ignorance here. What is Op locks? > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu >>[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Peter Van Lone >>Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 12:17 AM >>To: Novell LAN Interest Group >>Subject: RE: Novell Web Site >> >> >>Also check www.ithowto.com >> >>But I'll bet it is op locks and/or nic auto detect ... >> >>Also, you don't say how much storage space the server has, but 512 mb >>is not a lot of ram (that is not it, just an aside ...) >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Fred James [mailto:fubarsnafu69 at yahoo.com] >>Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:25 PM >>To: Novell LAN Interest Group >>Subject: Re: Novell Web Site >> >>works fine for me with mozilla 1.2.1 >> >> >>--- "Steven W. Smith" wrote: >>> Dave Moon wrote: >>> >Anyone have problems with Novell's website. We keep getting LInk >>> broken. >>> >>> It seems more broken, er, IE-enhanced than normal lately. Using >>> either Netscape or Mozilla, many pages launch into a stupid "404 & >>> reload" spasm. I've had better luck using IE under Windows, and >>> Konqueror w/ Linux. >>> >>> Example: using Mozilla 1.0.1/Linux, I enter the url >>> http://www.novell.com/company/advertising/index.html >>> As it starts loading, the url gets rewritten to >>> http://www.novell.com/company/advertising/') and goes into the >>> constantly-reloading-404-page thing. >>> >>> HTH >>> >>> Steven W. Smith, Systems Programmer >>> Glendale Community College. Glendale Az. >syssws at gc.maricopa.edu Did I > >>> mention how desperately I want more Nigerian pen pals? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Novell mailing list >>> Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >> >> > >>__________________________________________________ >>Do you Yahoo!? >>Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. >http://mailplus.yahoo.com >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > From hyphen at canada.com Fri Feb 7 22:00:20 2003 From: hyphen at canada.com (alex veronac) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 14:00:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: Arcserve 7 Login problems Message-ID: <20030207140021.3566.h001.c009.wm@mail.canada.com.criticalpath.net> If using IP & IPX on your network, the CA Tech Doc you want is: http://support.cai.com/techbases/as61/NAS68077.html _hyphen Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 15:17:53 -0500 From: Steve Klemetti To: Novell LAN Interest Group Subject: Re: Arcserve 7 Login problems Message-ID: <3E42C2F1.91280ACE at softhome.net> References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Reply-To: Novell LAN Interest Group Message: 6 I got it to work. I don't know how. I was changing things on the server with IPX and it worked. Bob Brownell wrote: > A few things that worked for me in a test environment with NW6 and > Arcserve 9 may give you a lead on a solution. > > I had to have at least SP1 on NW6 > Workstation client at least 4.83 > And, entries in windows hosts file of management pc containing target > server and it's ip address > > Good luck, > Bob > > >>> sklemetti at softhome.net 02/03/03 04:44PM >>> > Netware 6 with Arcserve 7 and the patches. > > I run the manager, click on the Backup Manager and it presents a > Security dialog box. I enter the admin user and password using the > full > name. Then it returns the message > > Server KCIBUFX failed to authenticate the user .cn=admin.o=kci (EC=-1) > Please verify that the user name & password is correct. > > On Cai.com there is a technical document about that but it says to > bind > IPX to the server. IPX is bound to the server. > > _______________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ Get your FREE personalized e-mail at http://www.canada.com From JRD at cc.usu.edu Fri Feb 7 21:05:58 2003 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 15:05:58 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Slow Performance Problem Message-ID: <01KS5SHXD22QAYL1M1@cc.usu.edu> >Awesome -- > >Just to clear some things up in my mind ... > >I had (wrongly?) believed that using the ce100b.lan drivers (as opposed >to e100b) the txthreshold defaulted automagically to 200 -- having just >now looked at the LDI I find that the prompt is hidden and the suggested >default is 0.=20 > >Hmm .... I wonder if that 0 means "do no early tx at all ....." Just the opposite, I'm afraid. 0 means die young. >Also -- regarding the minimum physical receive packet size value of 2048 >-- can you address this a bit technically (why do we need the setting, >what is the memory or other impact, ect ....)?=20 4224 is for Token Ring. 2048 is larger than an Ethernet frame. However, unnamed parties in a big chip making place stole some memory from frame buffers to do internal work. That's a big no-no, but they are a big-big chip place. 2048 is the present abomination, not smaller but can be larger. That said, other folks whose names will not be mentioned go off the deep end and may try to use more memory. Try to see what works for you with your edition of the TCP/IP stack and driver. >I have come to believe over the last year or so that leaving it at the >default of 4224 is appropriate, where always before it had been my >practice to set it to the ethernet frame size. Is there a (signifigant) >penalty for leaving it at the high default?=20 > >And what is the situation that requires this to be set no less than 2048 >(is the info above ethernet frame size auto negotiate and link status >stuff from the mac layer, or what?) Several years ago it was thought >1514 saved ram. Then 1518 was thought safer because it allowed space for >async or pppoe info should that be needed, now ... 2048. Negotiation is done by the PHY electronics, stuff attaching to the wire and to the Ethernet controller chip. Nothing to do with frames. This whole affair is due to uneducated sloppy programming. >Thx Joe -- we all I think appreciate the engineering level info when we >can get it. ..... This seems to be an albatross assigned to me permanently. I discovered and nailed all of the above, so I get stuck replaying the recording. Joe D. >peter From hyphen at canada.com Fri Feb 7 22:07:10 2003 From: hyphen at canada.com (alex veronac) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 14:07:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: Arcserve 7 Login problems Message-ID: <20030207140712.9364.h001.c009.wm@mail.canada.com.criticalpath.net> If using IP & IPX on your network, the CA Tech Doc you want is: http://support.cai.com/techbases/as61/NAS68077.html _hyphen Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 15:17:53 -0500 From: Steve Klemetti To: Novell LAN Interest Group Subject: Re: Arcserve 7 Login problems Message-ID: <3E42C2F1.91280ACE at softhome.net> References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Reply-To: Novell LAN Interest Group Message: 6 I got it to work. I don't know how. I was changing things on the server with IPX and it worked. Bob Brownell wrote: > A few things that worked for me in a test environment with NW6 and > Arcserve 9 may give you a lead on a solution. > > I had to have at least SP1 on NW6 > Workstation client at least 4.83 > And, entries in windows hosts file of management pc containing target > server and it's ip address > > Good luck, > Bob > > >>> sklemetti at softhome.net 02/03/03 04:44PM >>> > Netware 6 with Arcserve 7 and the patches. > > I run the manager, click on the Backup Manager and it presents a > Security dialog box. I enter the admin user and password using the > full > name. Then it returns the message > > Server KCIBUFX failed to authenticate the user .cn=admin.o=kci (EC=-1) > Please verify that the user name & password is correct. > > On Cai.com there is a technical document about that but it says to > bind > IPX to the server. IPX is bound to the server. > > _______________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ Get your FREE personalized e-mail at http://www.canada.com From mlkollmorgan at comcast.net Fri Feb 7 23:07:26 2003 From: mlkollmorgan at comcast.net (Mike Kollmorgan) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 18:07:26 -0500 Subject: The Credentials supplied..... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000d01c2cefd$aeaa7690$7101a8c0@lcs.com> Make sure there is not another computer on the network named FWFS2. I have had this happen before. It causes the problem you are describing. Mike Kollmorgan Logical Computer Solutions > -----Original Message----- > From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu [mailto:novell- > bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Chet Durnal > Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 1:01 PM > To: Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > Subject: The Credentials supplied..... > > Every time a user logs in, she gets: "An error occurred while reconnecting > N: to \\FWFS2\sys; the credentials supplied conflict with an existing set > of credentials" Novell says to update the client, but that did not solve > the problem. I get this same message regardless of the PC I login as that > user. Any ideas? Thanks > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From zzz at mctc.mnscu.edu Sat Feb 8 04:39:48 2003 From: zzz at mctc.mnscu.edu (zzz) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 22:39:48 -0600 Subject: NDPS slow NDPS manager load Message-ID: I have run into an NDPS "issue" tonight, and not sure of the cause. CONFIG: COMPAQ 933 processor box with 1 GIG RAM - NW6 SP1 running the included edir level , 112 HP printers using the HP gateway. No other patches applied. Rebooting the server, the NDPS manager takes 15-20 minutes to fully load all of the printers. The NDPS manager screen looks at each printer, with a message indicating updating directory services as the manager loads each agent. Most of the printers go through within a 10-20 seconds, but it slows WAY down for a few printers, then goes fast again. Eventually, everything loads OK. Thinking this updating directory services was a one time thing is not the case, as rebooting again takes the same time. This box used to reboot much faster in the past with the NDPS printer loads, typically within a couple of minutes. Suggestions welcome as I begin my research. Thanks Dana From rgrein at nwlink.com Sat Feb 8 17:24:32 2003 From: rgrein at nwlink.com (Randy Grein) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 09:24:32 -0800 Subject: NWClient mapping errors but GWClient OK(?) In-Reply-To: <20030206091937.25601.h010.c009.wm@mail.canada.com.criticalpath.net> Message-ID: <2FD72DDE-3B8A-11D7-A6B5-0003937048F0@nwlink.com> On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 09:19 AM, alex veronac wrote: I see this occasionally on customer workstations when networking isn't set up correctly. Sometimes it's a frame type issue (see Laura Chappell's grey paper "Why Auto Frame Typing is Evil", sometimes it's an SLP issue - on more than a few occiasions where it happens consistently it's been due to client corruption. Removing all networking and reinstalling the current client fixes these. > > We're getting the occasional User with a problem of not > logging in properly(code 8901) with MAPping errors with > the NT client but GWClient connects OK. Almost sounds > like IPX ain't working right as we IP login to the PO. > Anyone else getting this?. it's not licensing as > suggested in TID10067152 > We're running NW6SP2. I've been patching client v4.83 > with betas now. Login is fine under Win98. Any thoughts? > > _hyphen > > __________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE personalized e-mail at http://www.canada.com > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA From rgrein at nwlink.com Sat Feb 8 18:17:34 2003 From: rgrein at nwlink.com (Randy Grein) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 10:17:34 -0800 Subject: TCPIP - Domestic or Null In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <9836AD36-3B91-11D7-A6B5-0003937048F0@nwlink.com> Yes, it is out of the Fluke Book. Note the summary paragraph, which insists that specific problems can crop up with 'safe' configurations. On Friday, February 7, 2003, at 07:34 AM, Jeff Groetsema wrote: > I suspect this is based on the Fluke book, especially since it's from > Fluke. > > Good white paper on link negotiation issues > > http://searchNetworking.com/r/0,,9017,00.htm?flukenetworks > > > > > Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services > University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law > jgroetsema at uop.edu > >>>> rgrein at nwlink.com 02/06/03 09:58PM >>> > > On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 11:48 AM, Joe Acquisto wrote: > >>> Fluke has an excellent book on the subject of basic >>> analysis that covers auto negotiation VERY well. It >>> is short, approachable and definitive - everything >>> you need in a book of this type. >>> . . . >>> Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA >> >> Where can I find this book? Downloadable? >> >> joea/ > Not downloadable AFAIK. It's Network Maintenance and Troubleshooting > Guide by Fluke Networks. List price is $29, and you might be able to > call Fluke for a copy if it's not out of print. 1-800-283-5853. > > BTW, Neil insists that setting one side of a connection to half duplex > with the other side set to Auto does not always work, so keep an eye > out for a few persistent problems if you use this configuration. At > least the number will be small enough that you can address each > individually. > > Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA From admin at iaa.gov.il Sun Feb 9 08:36:45 2003 From: admin at iaa.gov.il (admin at iaa.gov.il) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 10:36:45 +0200 Subject: Novell Account Management - worth it? Message-ID: This is all good if you do one way creation, ie, you create the users in Netware only. But what about bi-directional creation ? If you create users either in Netware and want it propogated to NT, and in NT and want it propogated to Novell. This is something AM is supposed to do. And I don't know whether synchronisity does this. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Peter Van Lone [mailto:Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 6:13 PM To: Novell LAN Interest Group Subject: RE: Novell Account Management - worth it? Bud -- I'm a little bit confused about the pricing you have seen for netvision -- It looks to be a totally cool product, and I think if we decide we need that functionality we will go with it, but .....I was talking to a sales rep from there and the price is $18 per user, whcich is about dead on competetive with NAM. Also, another alternative for a small shop: Novell's DirXML Password Synch for Windows. It is available free if you own Zen for Desktops 4 (I'm not sure of the price otherwise). We are looking at this now, and hoping it works so we don't need NAM or Synchroniicty ..... Really creating 200 or so users is not that big a deal -- and may not require a NAM sort of solution. But keepingf those passwords synched would sure be nice ...... -----Original Message----- From: Bud Durland [mailto:bud at moldriteplastics.com] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 10:05 AM To: Novell LAN Interest Group Subject: Re: Novell Account Management - worth it? Dan Prill wrote: >I'm looking for opinions from anyone who is familiar with Novell >Account Management 3.0. We are implementing a new ERP system here which >will require that about 50 of our 250 users be able to access a Windows >2000 server. > We're in much the same boat, but smaller: 2 NE5.1/SP5/eDir8.6.2 servers, 1 Win2K/SQL server, 75 users accessing both boxes. I downloaded and tested Synchronicity for NT (http://netvision.com/products/synchronicity.html). It worked pretty well, and the price was about half that of NAM. It plugs into NWADMIN, and although the interface takes a bit of getting used to (and may have been easier if I actually RTFM'd), I was impressed with how easy it made the process. I set it up as a one-way "push" -- as users were created in eDir, or as eDir passwords changed, they propogated to the Win2k boxen. It has granularity to allow you to tell it who gets propogated to Windows, and who doesn't. We'll likely buy it, just waiting for budget $$$ -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Pinky, are you pondering whay I'm pondering?" "I think so, Brain, but really, me and Pippi Longstockings? I mean, what would the children look like?" ------------------------------------------------------------------- Bud Durland, CNE Mold-Rite Plastics Network Administrator http://www.mrpcap.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From admin at iaa.gov.il Sun Feb 9 08:39:58 2003 From: admin at iaa.gov.il (admin at iaa.gov.il) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 10:39:58 +0200 Subject: Error when trying to run apps under Zen4 with a net use(id= Message-ID: All the users are system users already. See my previous reply re the problem. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Moncaster [mailto:Matthew.Moncaster at circle33.org] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:30 PM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: Re: Error when trying to run apps under Zen4 with a net use(id= Or it could be just that the *application* needs to run as the System user. I have ZfD3 not 4 so these instructions may be wrong - but try in console1 going to the Run Options/Environment tab/Execuatble security level section. It defaults to "None". If the app doesn't need a UI but does need full registry rights use Run as Secure System User. If it does need a UI as well, or the former doesn't work, try Run as Unsecure System User. Regards Matt Matthew Moncaster Central Systems Administrator Circle 33 Housing Group 1-7 Corsica Street London N5 1JG Direct line (020) 7288 4195 To log IT problems call (020) 7288 4015 >>> toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee 6/2/2003 19:14:43 >>> Hi! > When I try and run this application under Zen4 (after configuring it (a > copied app) under Console1), I get the following error: > > Could not get needed resources for application [Pd_Or.O_IAA] to be > launched (id=53374) Sounds like a permissions problem. Are you running the application as Administrator of the local machine? If not, give it a try and if it succeeds you'll have a joyous task of trying to find out what file or registry hive is causing the problem. I gave up all hope a long time ago and all our users are now Administrators of their machines (yuck!). -- Toomas Aas | toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee | http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/ * Would a fly without wings be called a walk? _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell ************************************************************************ **************** *** IAA eSafe Gateway 3 scanned this email for malicious content *** *** IMPORTANT: Do not open attachments from unrecognized senders *** ************************************************************************ **************** From Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com Mon Feb 10 01:15:56 2003 From: Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com (Peter Van Lone) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 19:15:56 -0600 Subject: Novell Account Management - worth it? Message-ID: Netvision synchronicity is, I believe, 2 way sync -- but nds to ad is real time and ad to nds is a schedule (once per hour, day, etc ...) thing. -----Original Message----- From: admin at iaa.gov.il [mailto:admin at iaa.gov.il] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 2:37 AM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: RE: Novell Account Management - worth it? This is all good if you do one way creation, ie, you create the users in Netware only. But what about bi-directional creation ? If you create users either in Netware and want it propogated to NT, and in NT and want it propogated to Novell. This is something AM is supposed to do. And I don't know whether synchronisity does this. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Peter Van Lone [mailto:Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 6:13 PM To: Novell LAN Interest Group Subject: RE: Novell Account Management - worth it? Bud -- I'm a little bit confused about the pricing you have seen for netvision -- It looks to be a totally cool product, and I think if we decide we need that functionality we will go with it, but .....I was talking to a sales rep from there and the price is $18 per user, whcich is about dead on competetive with NAM. Also, another alternative for a small shop: Novell's DirXML Password Synch for Windows. It is available free if you own Zen for Desktops 4 (I'm not sure of the price otherwise). We are looking at this now, and hoping it works so we don't need NAM or Synchroniicty ..... Really creating 200 or so users is not that big a deal -- and may not require a NAM sort of solution. But keepingf those passwords synched would sure be nice ...... -----Original Message----- From: Bud Durland [mailto:bud at moldriteplastics.com] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 10:05 AM To: Novell LAN Interest Group Subject: Re: Novell Account Management - worth it? Dan Prill wrote: >I'm looking for opinions from anyone who is familiar with Novell >Account Management 3.0. We are implementing a new ERP system here which >will require that about 50 of our 250 users be able to access a Windows >2000 server. > We're in much the same boat, but smaller: 2 NE5.1/SP5/eDir8.6.2 servers, 1 Win2K/SQL server, 75 users accessing both boxes. I downloaded and tested Synchronicity for NT (http://netvision.com/products/synchronicity.html). It worked pretty well, and the price was about half that of NAM. It plugs into NWADMIN, and although the interface takes a bit of getting used to (and may have been easier if I actually RTFM'd), I was impressed with how easy it made the process. I set it up as a one-way "push" -- as users were created in eDir, or as eDir passwords changed, they propogated to the Win2k boxen. It has granularity to allow you to tell it who gets propogated to Windows, and who doesn't. We'll likely buy it, just waiting for budget $$$ -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Pinky, are you pondering whay I'm pondering?" "I think so, Brain, but really, me and Pippi Longstockings? I mean, what would the children look like?" ------------------------------------------------------------------- Bud Durland, CNE Mold-Rite Plastics Network Administrator http://www.mrpcap.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From MolM at cvxmck.edu.au Mon Feb 10 01:47:12 2003 From: MolM at cvxmck.edu.au (Michael Mollard) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 11:47:12 +1000 Subject: NW6 Licence usage growing Message-ID: <3E47913F.27216.50602C@localhost> Hi all, We have 6 x NW6 (SP2, edir 8.6.2sp2a) servers and Win2k (SP3, with 4.83sp1 clients). After a few problems with users being able to see mapped drives, I worked out that they were getting rejected connections due to installes licences being consumed. I currently have 400 licences installed on one server, even though ony 150 computers connect to it. It's current usage count is 480! The graph (NWAdmin32 - Licencing tools) show a continual climb of usage, even though users are only connected for about an hour at a time (students). Now it has reached the point that I can't throw more licences at the servers (no more available) and users are unable to connect. I've applied the Academic Licencing fix (TID 2964575) to no apparent avail. Thanks for any thoughts on this one. Michael Mollard - Network Administrator Clairvaux MacKillop College, Brisbane Qld Australia (Direct) +61 7 3347 4607 (Ph ) +61 7 3349 8977 (Fax) +61 7 3349 5677 From hbueno at optonline.net Mon Feb 10 02:42:41 2003 From: hbueno at optonline.net (HB) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 21:42:41 -0500 Subject: external certificate Message-ID: <3E4711A1.6010206@optonline.net> Is it possible to buy a Verisign (or Entrust, Thawte, etc) certificate that we can import into our tree CA that will authenticate the validity of all self generated certificates? Right now, we have several web servers that work just fine with SSL. However, my company just won a contract where the client won't settle for a self generated certificate. It seems it would be better to just verify the whole tree rather than buy certificates for each web server we may set up. Am I asking the right question, or am I missing something? Thanks Hugo From dgitter at goinfotek.com Mon Feb 10 04:14:05 2003 From: dgitter at goinfotek.com (Dave Gitter) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 23:14:05 -0500 Subject: Slow Performance Problem References: <01KS5NLWBZQAAYLE2I@cc.usu.edu> Message-ID: <0d3701c2d0ba$d9c2c530$6601a8c0@goinfotek.com> I'll read up on that one. Thnx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Doupnik" To: Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 1:43 PM Subject: Re: Slow Performance Problem > >That's not the case with me. > > > >The server is a Micron NF3400 that has an embedded Intel Nic. I also tried > >a separate PCI Intel Branded NIC that was in the server as well. I do not > >have any Compaq equip, I am just using the driver as suggested in the TID. > > > >This server had run fine with NW5.1. The problem arised after the NW6 > >upgrade. The driver rev in SP2 is the same as the driver on Intel's > >website. > > > >I am still getting some reports of users getting thrown out of GroupWise and > >an I/O intensive MS Access application. However, the major performance > >issues seem to have been resolved by the change of driver. I think I am > >probably going to drop in a 3Com 3C980b. Being that this is supposedly a > >"Server" NIC, I am hoping for a little better performance. > > > >Dave > ------------ > To flog an old horse, I presume you have gone to the driver's > .LDI text file and have engaged TXTHRESHOLD and defaulted it to 200. > If not then rotten comms are the norm. It will then show in inetcfg, > and you can activate a change in real time by reinitialize system > at the command prompt (no server down needed). > If this matter is news to you then may I recommend going to > the list's FAQ on http://netlab1.usu.edu/ and click the Search the FAQ > button. Ask about txthreshold or about e100b. This is not the list's > archive file. > Joe D. > > > -----Original Message----- > >Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:20:42 -0600 > > From: "Peter Van Lone" > > To: "Novell LAN Interest Group" > > Subject: RE: Slow Performance Problem > > Message-ID: > > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset="us-ascii" > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Precedence: list > > Reply-To: Novell LAN Interest Group > > Message: 23 > > > > I suspect too that you are right Joe -- > > > > Generally I have had very good luck with the ce100b drivers -- and if > > not, then I would suspect FIRST that the underlying hardware is not > > genuine intel (ie modified by cpq, etc ....) > > > > Also have had good luck with the n100.lan though -- so if it is a cpq > > server using a cpq nic (built in or otherwise) then the n100 may be the > > way to go. > > > > > > p > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Joe Doupnik [mailto:JRD at cc.usu.edu]=20 > > Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 8:35 AM > > To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu > > Subject: Re: Slow Performance Problem > > > > > > >I have finally found the problem !! > > > > > >It seems that the the NF3400 has an embedded Intel NIC with an 8255x=20 > > >chipset. > > > > > >Apparently, the driver that it uses (CE100B) is defective. The drivers > > > > >from Novell and from Intel both have a problem. (Novell's drivers on=20 > > >SP2 =3D Intel's current driver) > > > > I think folks have this turned upside down. The CE100B driver is > > fine. Zillions of copies are in happy use. The problem is likely the > > glue logic on the Compaq gear is not done correctly to emulate what a > > REAL Intel Ethernet board does. Embedded controllers are subject to such > > design errors. Insert a real Intel board to see if this appies to your > > equipment. > > Joe D. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > From rgrein at nwlink.com Mon Feb 10 05:22:54 2003 From: rgrein at nwlink.com (Randy Grein) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 21:22:54 -0800 Subject: NW6 Licence usage growing In-Reply-To: <3E47913F.27216.50602C@localhost> Message-ID: By default NW 6 licenses users by the tree - per server licensing (unless you've specifically ordered it) is a thing of the past. How did you determine that you were out of licenses? On Sunday, February 9, 2003, at 05:47 PM, Michael Mollard wrote: > Hi all, > We have 6 x NW6 (SP2, edir 8.6.2sp2a) servers and Win2k (SP3, with > 4.83sp1 clients). > After a few problems with users being able to see mapped drives, I > worked out that they were getting rejected connections due to installes > licences being consumed. I currently have 400 licences installed on > one server, even though ony 150 computers connect to it. It's current > usage count is 480! The graph (NWAdmin32 - Licencing tools) show a > continual climb of usage, even though users are only connected for > about an hour at a time (students). Now it has reached the point that > I > can't throw more licences at the servers (no more available) and users > are unable to connect. > > I've applied the Academic Licencing fix (TID 2964575) to no apparent > avail. > > Thanks for any thoughts on this one. > > > Michael Mollard - Network Administrator > Clairvaux MacKillop College, Brisbane Qld Australia > (Direct) +61 7 3347 4607 > (Ph ) +61 7 3349 8977 > (Fax) +61 7 3349 5677 > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA From rgrein at nwlink.com Mon Feb 10 05:24:04 2003 From: rgrein at nwlink.com (Randy Grein) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 21:24:04 -0800 Subject: external certificate In-Reply-To: <3E4711A1.6010206@optonline.net> Message-ID: On Sunday, February 9, 2003, at 06:42 PM, HB wrote: > Is it possible to buy a Verisign (or Entrust, Thawte, etc) certificate > that we can import into our tree CA that will authenticate the > validity of all self generated certificates? Right now, we have > several web servers that work just fine with SSL. However, my company > just won a contract where the client won't settle for a self generated > certificate. It seems it would be better to just verify the whole > tree rather than buy certificates for each web server we may set up. > > Am I asking the right question, or am I missing something? > > Thanks > Hugo yes, Yes, and no - you've asked exactly the right questions. I haven't had the need to do so, but the procedure is fairly well documented. Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA From fredpile at tafe.sa.edu.au Mon Feb 10 07:47:26 2003 From: fredpile at tafe.sa.edu.au (Fred Pile) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 17:47:26 +1000 Subject: Queue directory Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20030210174726.0183f9b8@143.92.27.77> I have noticed a volume (not SYS) on a server (5.1, upgraded from 4.10 many years ago) here that has many more subdirectories under the "QUEUES" directory than there are print queues hosted by that server (about 90 *.QDR directories vs. 34 print queues). I suspect that these have accumulated from queues being added, deleted, and re-created to fix problems over the years. I just wanted to be sure that "QUEUES" is only used for print queues and nothing else before cleaning them up? Thanks, Fred. From Matthew.Moncaster at circle33.org Mon Feb 10 07:55:48 2003 From: Matthew.Moncaster at circle33.org (Matthew Moncaster) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 07:55:48 +0000 Subject: Queue directory Message-ID: The directory is also used for SMS backup queues. -Matt >>> fredpile at tafe.sa.edu.au 10/2/2003 07:47:26 >>> I have noticed a volume (not SYS) on a server (5.1, upgraded from 4.10 many years ago) here that has many more subdirectories under the "QUEUES" directory than there are print queues hosted by that server (about 90 *.QDR directories vs. 34 print queues). I suspect that these have accumulated from queues being added, deleted, and re-created to fix problems over the years. I just wanted to be sure that "QUEUES" is only used for print queues and nothing else before cleaning them up? 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Name: InterScan_Disclaimer.txt URL: From rgrein at nwlink.com Mon Feb 10 08:05:01 2003 From: rgrein at nwlink.com (Randy Grein) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 00:05:01 -0800 Subject: Queue directory In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20030210174726.0183f9b8@143.92.27.77> Message-ID: <5AEA6723-3CCE-11D7-8CEC-0003937048F0@nwlink.com> On Sunday, February 9, 2003, at 11:47 PM, Fred Pile wrote: > > I have noticed a volume (not SYS) on a server (5.1, upgraded from 4.10 > many years ago) here that has many more subdirectories under the > "QUEUES" directory than there are print queues hosted by that server > (about 90 *.QDR directories vs. 34 print queues). > > I suspect that these have accumulated from queues being added, > deleted, and re-created to fix problems over the years. I just wanted > to be sure that "QUEUES" is only used for print queues and nothing > else before cleaning them up? > > Thanks, > Fred. > Yes, unless you add things manually. Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA From ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu Mon Feb 10 13:33:13 2003 From: ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 08:33:13 -0500 Subject: external certificate Message-ID: Perhaps you company should try to educate the client about the reality of certificates. As Joe D and others have mentioned, it is the client who provides the trust. In other words, there is no intrinsic superiority, in terms of trustworthyness, or encryption, to "external" certificates. In fact, a case could be made that "self generated" certs could be superior, in terms of trustworthyness, as "self" has control over every aspect of the cert. But, you certainly don't want to lose the client, over that. ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- Remember: once, everyone "Knew" the world was flat. --------------------------------------------------- >>> hbueno at optonline.net 02/09/03 09:42PM >>> Is it possible to buy a Verisign (or Entrust, Thawte, etc) certificate that we can import into our tree CA that will authenticate the validity of all self generated certificates? Right now, we have several web servers that work just fine with SSL. However, my company just won a contract where the client won't settle for a self generated certificate. It seems it would be better to just verify the whole tree rather than buy certificates for each web server we may set up. Am I asking the right question, or am I missing something? Thanks Hugo _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From Dickhaus at xavier.edu Mon Feb 10 14:27:41 2003 From: Dickhaus at xavier.edu (Carl Dickhaus) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 09:27:41 -0500 Subject: SAN Recommendations Message-ID: Xavier Univ. is about to make a decision on a SAN. Could you please say a few words why you prefer Xiotech over Dell/EMC ? Thanks. Carl Dickhaus LAN Systems Administrator Xavier University Cincinnati >>> AHidalgo at salud.unm.edu 2/7/2003 >>> We too are using XioTech, we also have a Dell/EMC but we are much happier with the XioTech. -a Al Hidalgo, MCNE Senior Analyst Information Systems University Hospitals ahidalgo at salud.unm.edu >>> skiphefel at advanced-data.com 2/7/03 7:48:14 AM >>> We are using a XioTech, which we have the boot disks on the SAN, the SAN has a OS partition for each server is assigned to the QLogic card for bootup, and then you have your Shared "Clustered" partition. Not sure about Exchange clustering, good luck on that one. Skip Hefel -----Original Message----- From: Mark Puchalski [mailto:Mark.Puchalski at honigman.com] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 8:14 AM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: SAN Recommendations In preparation for our migration to Exchange 2000, we are working on choosing a SAN to place behind the clustered Exchange servers. We will also be moving various other application and file servers to the SAN as time goes on. Our current data center standard is Dell PowerEdge servers running a mix of NetWare 5.1/6 and Windows NT4/2000. We are looking at the Dell|EMC CX400 and CX600 SANs. In addition to these models, a consultant has proposed the IBM FAStT700 SAN. I'd be interested in getting feedback on performance, service, reliability, etc. from anyone running either of these SANs. Thank you. -------------------------------------------------------------- Mark A. Puchalski Network Engineer Honigman Miller Schwartz and Cohn LLP _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From rgrein at nwlink.com Mon Feb 10 14:42:58 2003 From: rgrein at nwlink.com (Randy Grein) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 06:42:58 -0800 Subject: Queue directory In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sunday, February 9, 2003, at 11:55 PM, Matthew Moncaster wrote: > The directory is also used for SMS backup queues. > > -Matt > >>>> fredpile at tafe.sa.edu.au 10/2/2003 07:47:26 >>> > > I have noticed a volume (not SYS) on a server (5.1, upgraded from 4.10 > many years ago) here that has many more subdirectories under the > "QUEUES" directory than there are print queues hosted by that server > (about 90 *.QDR directories vs. 34 print queues). > > I suspect that these have accumulated from queues being added, deleted, > and re-created to fix problems over the years. I just wanted to be sure > that "QUEUES" is only used for print queues and nothing else before > cleaning them up? > > Thanks, > Fred. > You sure? AFAIK backup queues are placed in the system folder still. Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA From AHidalgo at salud.unm.edu Mon Feb 10 15:02:48 2003 From: AHidalgo at salud.unm.edu (Al Hidalgo) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 08:02:48 -0700 Subject: SAN Recommendations Message-ID: Because it's a complete package. With the Dell/EMC we had to purchase additional stuff. The Xiotech quote was complete. Our purchase was over two years ago and Dell/EMC may have changed. The Xiotech software is better and if your OS is NetWare, XioTech will boot NetWare off of the SANS. -a Al Hidalgo, MCNE Senior Analyst Information Systems University Hospitals ahidalgo at salud.unm.edu >>> "Carl Dickhaus" 2/10/03 7:27:41 AM >>> Xavier Univ. is about to make a decision on a SAN. Could you please say a few words why you prefer Xiotech over Dell/EMC ? Thanks. Carl Dickhaus LAN Systems Administrator Xavier University Cincinnati >>> AHidalgo at salud.unm.edu 2/7/2003 >>> We too are using XioTech, we also have a Dell/EMC but we are much happier with the XioTech. -a Al Hidalgo, MCNE Senior Analyst Information Systems University Hospitals ahidalgo at salud.unm.edu >>> skiphefel at advanced-data.com 2/7/03 7:48:14 AM >>> We are using a XioTech, which we have the boot disks on the SAN, the SAN has a OS partition for each server is assigned to the QLogic card for bootup, and then you have your Shared "Clustered" partition. Not sure about Exchange clustering, good luck on that one. Skip Hefel -----Original Message----- From: Mark Puchalski [mailto:Mark.Puchalski at honigman.com] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 8:14 AM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: SAN Recommendations In preparation for our migration to Exchange 2000, we are working on choosing a SAN to place behind the clustered Exchange servers. We will also be moving various other application and file servers to the SAN as time goes on. Our current data center standard is Dell PowerEdge servers running a mix of NetWare 5.1/6 and Windows NT4/2000. We are looking at the Dell|EMC CX400 and CX600 SANs. In addition to these models, a consultant has proposed the IBM FAStT700 SAN. I'd be interested in getting feedback on performance, service, reliability, etc. from anyone running either of these SANs. Thank you. -------------------------------------------------------------- Mark A. Puchalski Network Engineer Honigman Miller Schwartz and Cohn LLP _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tom.anstey at molecular-medicine.oxford.ac.uk Mon Feb 10 15:32:42 2003 From: tom.anstey at molecular-medicine.oxford.ac.uk (Tom Anstey) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:32:42 -0000 Subject: SAN Recommendations In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3E47C619.6092.7CF74D89@localhost> Although the resellers have some input in this, check what the annual maintenance costs are going to be. One company here would only bring the cost of the SAN down if we were happy to accept greatly increased maintenance costs. The company I chose in preference to both of these has a cost of 1,000 pounds ($1,600) per annum. One of the companies listed here wanted about 10 times that if I remember correctly. The SAN I bought was also about half the price of a XioTech. FYI it was LSI. However it doesn't look quite as trendy as a Magnitude. Regards, Tom On 10 Feb 2003 at 8:02, Al Hidalgo wrote: > Because it's a complete package. With the Dell/EMC we had to purchase > additional stuff. The Xiotech quote was complete. Our purchase was > over two years ago and Dell/EMC may have changed. > > The Xiotech software is better and if your OS is NetWare, XioTech will > boot NetWare off of the SANS. > > -a > > > > Al Hidalgo, MCNE > Senior Analyst > Information Systems > University Hospitals > ahidalgo at salud.unm.edu > > >>> "Carl Dickhaus" 2/10/03 7:27:41 AM >>> > Xavier Univ. is about to make a decision on a SAN. > Could you please say a few words why you prefer Xiotech over Dell/EMC > ? Thanks. > > Carl Dickhaus > LAN Systems Administrator > Xavier University > Cincinnati > > >>> AHidalgo at salud.unm.edu 2/7/2003 >>> > We too are using XioTech, we also have a Dell/EMC but we are much > happier with the XioTech. > > -a > > > > Al Hidalgo, MCNE > Senior Analyst > Information Systems > University Hospitals > ahidalgo at salud.unm.edu > > >>> skiphefel at advanced-data.com 2/7/03 7:48:14 AM >>> > We are using a XioTech, which we have the boot disks on the SAN, the > SAN has a OS partition for each server is assigned to the QLogic card > for bootup, and then you have your Shared "Clustered" partition. Not > sure about Exchange clustering, good luck on that one. Skip Hefel > -----Original Message----- From: Mark Puchalski > [mailto:Mark.Puchalski at honigman.com] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 > 8:14 AM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: SAN Recommendations > > > In preparation for our migration to Exchange 2000, we are working on > choosing a SAN to place behind the clustered Exchange servers. We > will also be moving various other application and file servers to the > SAN as time goes on. > > Our current data center standard is Dell PowerEdge servers running a > mix of NetWare 5.1/6 and Windows NT4/2000. We are looking at the > Dell|EMC CX400 and CX600 SANs. In addition to these models, a > consultant has proposed the IBM FAStT700 SAN. > > I'd be interested in getting feedback on performance, service, > reliability, > etc. from anyone running either of these SANs. > Thank you. > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Mark A. Puchalski > Network Engineer > Honigman Miller Schwartz and Cohn LLP > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > ============================== Tom Anstey Institute of Molecular Medicine Oxford University Oxford OX3 9DS UK From Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com Mon Feb 10 17:08:23 2003 From: Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com (Peter Van Lone) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 11:08:23 -0600 Subject: Export user nw411 Message-ID: Does anyone know of a util that can be used on a nw4.11 box to export the user list? Customer wants to build a new tree with new nw6 servers and would like to avoid typing all the user info in manaually if possible. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Its been a long couple of weeks and I have got to the stage where I keep making mistakes.... :-( -Matt Matthew Moncaster Central Systems Administrator Circle 33 Housing Group 1-7 Corsica Street London N5 1JG Direct line (020) 7288 4195 To log IT problems call (020) 7288 4015 >>> rgrein at nwlink.com 10/2/2003 14:42:58 >>> On Sunday, February 9, 2003, at 11:55 PM, Matthew Moncaster wrote: > The directory is also used for SMS backup queues. > > -Matt > >>>> fredpile at tafe.sa.edu.au 10/2/2003 07:47:26 >>> > > I have noticed a volume (not SYS) on a server (5.1, upgraded from 4.10 > many years ago) here that has many more subdirectories under the > "QUEUES" directory than there are print queues hosted by that server > (about 90 *.QDR directories vs. 34 print queues). > > I suspect that these have accumulated from queues being added, deleted, > and re-created to fix problems over the years. I just wanted to be sure > that "QUEUES" is only used for print queues and nothing else before > cleaning them up? > > Thanks, > Fred. > You sure? AFAIK backup queues are placed in the system folder still. Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: InterScan_Disclaimer.txt URL: From Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com Mon Feb 10 17:30:40 2003 From: Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com (Peter Van Lone) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 11:30:40 -0600 Subject: Export user nw411 Message-ID: Hmm.... Not exactly a great format, but you can re-direct to a text file, then bring it into a spread sheet, then ..... Thx - the obvious sometimes escapes..... (: -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Moncaster [mailto:Matthew.Moncaster at circle33.org] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:17 AM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: Re: Export user nw411 nlist? >>> Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com 10/2/2003 17:08:23 >>> Does anyone know of a util that can be used on a nw4.11 box to export the user list? Customer wants to build a new tree with new nw6 servers and would like to avoid typing all the user info in manaually if possible. From mpb at ci.henderson.nv.us Mon Feb 10 18:01:07 2003 From: mpb at ci.henderson.nv.us (Michael Balasko) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 10:01:07 -0800 Subject: SAN Recommendations Message-ID: Just a small point of consideration, but I was fortunate to get a tour of the MSN facility and get quality time with a few of their Senior guys. It was beyond amazing. Anyhow, we asked about SAN's and they are steadfast against them if I remember the quote as " Unless I need to dangle more than 8 SCSI cables out of a box". This was their SAN guy telling us this. He cited many reasons, 1. Manageability/Dedicated person. If something breaks and goes unnoticed, the consequences of a catastrophic failure of multiple machines is significantly higher. 2. Cost- PURE FC Disks are fetching a HUGE premium over SCSI Disks. 3. Speed - Ultra320 SCSI is faster than 2Gbps FC. SCSI - 320MBps vs FC 250MBps. There are a few other key points as well. BUT the GOLDEN NUGGET was that if for whatever reason the Fed's came in and wanted your email server for an investigation, (a'la enron or tyco or take your pick) they could just up and take your whole SAN. So the data of the thirty other boxes are now gone as well. I thought that was a pretty good one. All that being said I think the HP/Compaq EVA is the way to go. Mike Balasko CCDA, CCNP, MCNE 5, MCP, MCSE2K, SCP, N+, A+ City of Henderson DoIT Network Specialist II ph:702.565.4226 Security is not a product that can be purchased off the shelf, but consists of policies, people, processes, and technology. -Kevin Mitnick >>> AHidalgo at salud.unm.edu 02/10/03 07:02AM >>> Because it's a complete package. With the Dell/EMC we had to purchase additional stuff. The Xiotech quote was complete. Our purchase was over two years ago and Dell/EMC may have changed. The Xiotech software is better and if your OS is NetWare, XioTech will boot NetWare off of the SANS. -a Al Hidalgo, MCNE Senior Analyst Information Systems University Hospitals ahidalgo at salud.unm.edu >>> "Carl Dickhaus" 2/10/03 7:27:41 AM >>> Xavier Univ. is about to make a decision on a SAN. Could you please say a few words why you prefer Xiotech over Dell/EMC ? Thanks. Carl Dickhaus LAN Systems Administrator Xavier University Cincinnati >>> AHidalgo at salud.unm.edu 2/7/2003 >>> We too are using XioTech, we also have a Dell/EMC but we are much happier with the XioTech. -a Al Hidalgo, MCNE Senior Analyst Information Systems University Hospitals ahidalgo at salud.unm.edu >>> skiphefel at advanced-data.com 2/7/03 7:48:14 AM >>> We are using a XioTech, which we have the boot disks on the SAN, the SAN has a OS partition for each server is assigned to the QLogic card for bootup, and then you have your Shared "Clustered" partition. Not sure about Exchange clustering, good luck on that one. Skip Hefel -----Original Message----- From: Mark Puchalski [mailto:Mark.Puchalski at honigman.com] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 8:14 AM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: SAN Recommendations In preparation for our migration to Exchange 2000, we are working on choosing a SAN to place behind the clustered Exchange servers. We will also be moving various other application and file servers to the SAN as time goes on. Our current data center standard is Dell PowerEdge servers running a mix of NetWare 5.1/6 and Windows NT4/2000. We are looking at the Dell|EMC CX400 and CX600 SANs. In addition to these models, a consultant has proposed the IBM FAStT700 SAN. I'd be interested in getting feedback on performance, service, reliability, etc. from anyone running either of these SANs. Thank you. -------------------------------------------------------------- Mark A. Puchalski Network Engineer Honigman Miller Schwartz and Cohn LLP _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From danrembolt at myrealbox.com Mon Feb 10 18:18:31 2003 From: danrembolt at myrealbox.com (danrembolt at myrealbox.com) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 10:18:31 -0800 Subject: Export user nw411 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3E477C77.877.18098BA2@localhost> NDSExporter - get it at NetwareFiles.com On 10 Feb 2003 at 11:30, Peter Van Lone wrote: > Hmm.... > > Not exactly a great format, but you can re-direct to a text file, then > bring it into a spread sheet, then ..... > > Thx - the obvious sometimes escapes..... (: > > -----Original Message----- > From: Matthew Moncaster [mailto:Matthew.Moncaster at circle33.org] > Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:17 AM > To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu > Subject: Re: Export user nw411 > > > nlist? > > >>> Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com 10/2/2003 17:08:23 >>> > Does anyone know of a util that can be used on a nw4.11 box to export > the user list? > > Customer wants to build a new tree with new nw6 servers and would like > to avoid typing all the user info in manaually if possible. > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > -- Windows has problems. Novell has solutions. From Matthew.Moncaster at circle33.org Mon Feb 10 19:17:10 2003 From: Matthew.Moncaster at circle33.org (Matthew Moncaster) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 19:17:10 +0000 Subject: Export user nw411 Message-ID: Or, best for scripting etc. - get JRB utilities (not free but cheap and good value) -> use its listobj utility, e.g. something like- cx [root] listobj * /x /u /j /yd -where /x means search subcontainers, /u means only show usernames not Full Name as well (weird default but anyway...), /j means don't display headers and footers (bare format), /yd means show full names with leading periods, alternatively /yc is same without leading periods (bla.bla instead of .bla.bla). That output can be redirected to a file. [OK now I've finally read your question:] If the customer wants ALL information not just the usernames, then -still use JRB- something like: cx [root] getname * /a=* /j /x /yd -where /a=* means show all attributes, other switches as listobj (above). /a=* will show LOADS of info incl hex nonsense mind you so it might be better to use a template file defining which attributes are of interest - containing something like: %login_name, %given_name, %last_name, %Location, %Title, %Department => if this file is called template.txt, use the command getname * /a=@template.txt /j /x /yd Subsequently jrbimprt can be used to import the data back in (to the new tree). Regards Matt >>> danrembolt at myrealbox.com 10/2/2003 18:18:31 >>> NDSExporter - get it at NetwareFiles.com On 10 Feb 2003 at 11:30, Peter Van Lone wrote: > Hmm.... > > Not exactly a great format, but you can re-direct to a text file, then > bring it into a spread sheet, then ..... > > Thx - the obvious sometimes escapes..... (: > > -----Original Message----- > From: Matthew Moncaster [mailto:Matthew.Moncaster at circle33.org] > Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:17 AM > To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu > Subject: Re: Export user nw411 > > > nlist? > > >>> Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com 10/2/2003 17:08:23 >>> > Does anyone know of a util that can be used on a nw4.11 box to export > the user list? > > Customer wants to build a new tree with new nw6 servers and would like > to avoid typing all the user info in manaually if possible. > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > -- Windows has problems. Novell has solutions. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: InterScan_Disclaimer.txt URL: From John at coastal.edu Mon Feb 10 19:23:38 2003 From: John at coastal.edu (John Hanna) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 14:23:38 -0500 Subject: Export user nw411 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002c01c2d139$ed1802b0$041478c7@ccu03722> Jrb utilities has the getname.exe and getrest.exe utilities that are great for this. >-----Original Message----- >From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu >[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Peter Van Lone >Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 12:31 PM >To: Novell LAN Interest Group >Subject: RE: Export user nw411 > > >Hmm.... > >Not exactly a great format, but you can re-direct to a text >file, then bring it into a spread sheet, then ..... > >Thx - the obvious sometimes escapes..... (: > >-----Original Message----- >From: Matthew Moncaster [mailto:Matthew.Moncaster at circle33.org] >Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:17 AM >To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu >Subject: Re: Export user nw411 > > >nlist? > >>>> Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com 10/2/2003 17:08:23 >>> >Does anyone know of a util that can be used on a nw4.11 box to >export the user list? > >Customer wants to build a new tree with new nw6 servers and >would like to avoid typing all the user info in manaually if possible. > > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > From mdlaat at muisnetwerken.nl Mon Feb 10 20:02:33 2003 From: mdlaat at muisnetwerken.nl (Maurice de Laat) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 21:02:33 +0100 Subject: NW6 Licence usage growing In-Reply-To: <3E47913F.27216.50602C@localhost>; from MolM@cvxmck.edu.au on Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 11:47:12AM +1000 References: <3E47913F.27216.50602C@localhost> Message-ID: <20030210210233.B12114@www.extern-systeembeheer.nl> On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 11:47:12AM +1000, Michael Mollard wrote: > Hi all, > We have 6 x NW6 (SP2, edir 8.6.2sp2a) servers and Win2k (SP3, with > 4.83sp1 clients). > After a few problems with users being able to see mapped drives, I > worked out that they were getting rejected connections due to installes > licences being consumed. I currently have 400 licences installed on > one server, even though ony 150 computers connect to it. It's current > usage count is 480! The graph (NWAdmin32 - Licencing tools) show a > continual climb of usage, even though users are only connected for > about an hour at a time (students). Now it has reached the point that I > can't throw more licences at the servers (no more available) and users > are unable to connect. Check iManager to see who has a license in use. In NW6, a user consumes a license up to 90 days after logout, if I'm correct. -- Maurice de Laat From jfast at development.tas.gov.au Mon Feb 10 21:46:05 2003 From: jfast at development.tas.gov.au (jfast at development.tas.gov.au) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 08:46:05 +1100 Subject: Novell Account Management - worth it? Message-ID: We are using a slightly different option, and so far in testing has been a very big success, that is using DirXML 1.1a & Passwd Sync for Win. Once it is configured correctly even the account disabled/expiry work, it syncs everything we need. I had looked at NAM 3.0, but it was too much for our needs. The only pitfall seems to be, not related to DirXML(I don't think) is that adding another 2000 server to AD doesn't work so I can have more than one 2000 server running ED, Zen4, DirXML & Passwd Sync. John "Dan Prill" To Sent by: novell-bounces at ne cc tlab1.usu.edu Subject Novell Account Management - worth 07/02/2003 02:11 it? AM Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group I'm looking for opinions from anyone who is familiar with Novell Account Management 3.0. We are implementing a new ERP system here which will require that about 50 of our 250 users be able to access a Windows 2000 server. I've been looking through the documentation for NAM and am wondering if it is going to be overkill for a user base of our size. We have four Netware 6.0 servers running Edirectory 8.6.2. Anyone have any experience or opinions you'd care to share? The cost of the software itself isn't an issue since it is a part of our ALA. Thanks in advance for any input. Dan Prill Network/System Administrator Northwestern Health Sciences University Bloomington, MN _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From carter at ipfw.edu Mon Feb 10 22:17:54 2003 From: carter at ipfw.edu (Jean-Paul Carter) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 17:17:54 -0500 Subject: Talk about Account management and ADS Message-ID: We are still using the Account management stuff for NT 4 domains (redirection) and are getting ready to put up ADS and try out Account Management with the password sync using dirxml. With all of the various "solutions" I am a little confused. With the latest offerings, do I just need an agent on the win2k box to do the syn or does it have to have edir on it with copies of the partitions where the accounts live ? From Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com Mon Feb 10 22:38:06 2003 From: Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com (Peter Van Lone) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:38:06 -0600 Subject: Talk about Account management and ADS Message-ID: My understanding is that neither NAM nor the DirXML password sync products need edir -- DirXML is what drives the connection between the 2 directories, so a win2k dc sees a new user, and then sends that change to edir using the dirxml driver. At least that is my understanding.... -----Original Message----- From: Jean-Paul Carter [mailto:carter at ipfw.edu] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 4:18 PM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: Talk about Account management and ADS We are still using the Account management stuff for NT 4 domains (redirection) and are getting ready to put up ADS and try out Account Management with the password sync using dirxml. With all of the various "solutions" I am a little confused. With the latest offerings, do I just need an agent on the win2k box to do the syn or does it have to have edir on it with copies of the partitions where the accounts live ? _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From molm at cvxmck.edu.au Tue Feb 11 01:07:38 2003 From: molm at cvxmck.edu.au (Michael Mollard) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 11:07:38 +1000 Subject: NW6 Licence usage growing In-Reply-To: <20030210210233.B12114@www.extern-systeembeheer.nl> References: <3E47913F.27216.50602C@localhost>; from MolM@cvxmck.edu.au on Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 11:47:12AM +1000 Message-ID: <3E48D97A.22636.195356@localhost> Surely not. In an academic world that's not workable. I'll have to keep looking for a solution. On 10 Feb 2003 at 21:02, Maurice de Laat wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 11:47:12AM +1000, Michael Mollard wrote: > > Hi all, > > We have 6 x NW6 (SP2, edir 8.6.2sp2a) servers and Win2k (SP3, with > > 4.83sp1 clients). > > After a few problems with users being able to see mapped drives, I > > worked out that they were getting rejected connections due to installes > > licences being consumed. I currently have 400 licences installed on > > one server, even though ony 150 computers connect to it. It's current > > usage count is 480! The graph (NWAdmin32 - Licencing tools) show a > > continual climb of usage, even though users are only connected for > > about an hour at a time (students). Now it has reached the point that I can't > > throw more licences at the servers (no more available) and users are unable to > > connect. > > Check iManager to see who has a license in use. In NW6, a user > consumes a license up to 90 days after logout, if I'm correct. > -- > Maurice de Laat > Michael Mollard molm @ cvxmck.edu.au Information Systems Administrator Clairvaux MacKillop College http://www.cvxmck.edu.au Ph 07 3349 8977 Fax 07 3349 5677 From molm at cvxmck.edu.au Tue Feb 11 07:49:00 2003 From: molm at cvxmck.edu.au (Michael Mollard) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 17:49:00 +1000 Subject: NW6 Licences not being released Message-ID: <3E49378C.23254.1C815D@localhost> Hi all, Further to my previous email: I have multiple NW6sp2 servers in my eDir8.6.2sp2a tree. Each server is in it's own container. I have 1000 student accounts in a context but at any time only 200 of them can be connected to the server in their context. I currently have 600 licences (SLA) assigned to the server in question. The licence usage has climbed and does not come down. After looking in iManager, it seems that a single student has multiple licences, one each time they authenticate, spread over many days/machines. The students can no longer map drives to the server because there are no more licences available (from the Server Error Log). I understand that normal NW6 licences are one per user, and are held for 90 days. But I am using SLA licences that I believed were different. But even if I had 1000 licences (one per student) they still consume too many (many students have more than 1 'licence connection' in iManage). I have applied the Academic Licencing fix, and tried back-revving NLSLSP.NLM from NW6 CD. The problem continues. I am getting desperate as my network is grinding to an unusable mess. Any thoughts. Kind regards, From Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com Tue Feb 11 13:45:47 2003 From: Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com (Peter Van Lone) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 07:45:47 -0600 Subject: NW6 Licences not being released Message-ID: Open an incident? The duplicate assignments issue has always been fixed for me by back-revving. There is a TID about it that suggests a couple other things, I think ..... -----Original Message----- From: Michael Mollard [mailto:molm at cvxmck.edu.au] Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 1:49 AM To: NOVELL at netlab1.usu.edu; Netw4l at mail.otherwhen.com Subject: NW6 Licences not being released Hi all, Further to my previous email: I have multiple NW6sp2 servers in my eDir8.6.2sp2a tree. Each server is in it's own container. I have 1000 student accounts in a context but at any time only 200 of them can be connected to the server in their context. I currently have 600 licences (SLA) assigned to the server in question. The licence usage has climbed and does not come down. After looking in iManager, it seems that a single student has multiple licences, one each time they authenticate, spread over many days/machines. The students can no longer map drives to the server because there are no more licences available (from the Server Error Log). I understand that normal NW6 licences are one per user, and are held for 90 days. But I am using SLA licences that I believed were different. But even if I had 1000 licences (one per student) they still consume too many (many students have more than 1 'licence connection' in iManage). I have applied the Academic Licencing fix, and tried back-revving NLSLSP.NLM from NW6 CD. The problem continues. I am getting desperate as my network is grinding to an unusable mess. Any thoughts. Kind regards, _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From MLeone at Contributionship.com Tue Feb 11 14:25:08 2003 From: MLeone at Contributionship.com (Leone, Michael) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 09:25:08 -0500 Subject: ABEND w/Symantec AV 7.6 - Double Fault Processor Exception - duri ng definition update Message-ID: Quite a long subject line, but accurate. :-) NW51SP5 server, designated as PRIMARY server for Symantec AV server group. This is the server all workstations get their updates from. 2nd time now, I've gotten an ABEND: Server GINET01 halted Tuesday, February 11, 2003 3:15:05.215 am Abend 1 on P00: Server-5.00k: Double Fault Processor Exception (Error code 00000000) Running process: RTV Download Process Created by: NetWare Application Thread Owned by NLM: RTVSCAN.NLM Stack pointer: CA2DEE6C OS Stack limit: CA2DBA20 (stack overflow signature is missing - BAD STATE TO BE IN) Additional Information: The CPU encountered a problem executing code in BSDSOCK.NLM. The problem may be in that module or in data passed to that module by a process owned by RTVSCAN.NLM. RTVSCAN is the RealTimeVirus Scan portion of Symantec. Looks like it crashed during the scheduled nightly AV update (this server goes out to Symanetec and gets it updates directly). My question - I have the SAV v8.0 CDs, and am planning on upgrading ASAP. I'm concerned that this might be more of a bug in the TCP/IP stack (see the BSDSOCK reference). I have the TCP581o update. I will try applying that tomorrow (the server must be brought down, correct? Not just "REINITIALIZE SYSTEM" in INETCFG?) Then I will try updating the SAV to v8. Any other gotchas to be aware of? Should I uninstall SAV from the server first, or just update in place? -- ------------------------------------------------------------ Michael Leone, Systems Administrator Philadelphia Contributionship 210 S. 4th Street, Philadelphia, PA 19106 V: 215-627-1752 x1282 F: 215-627-5354 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com Tue Feb 11 14:56:10 2003 From: Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com (Peter Van Lone) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 08:56:10 -0600 Subject: ABEND w/Symantec AV 7.6 - Double Fault Processor Exception - duri ng definition update Message-ID: this is a known issue -- if you contact symantec they will authorize download of the 8.1 product (not publicly available yet ....) that fixes this. it is a re-install of the updated build version -- good luck p -----Original Message----- From: Leone, Michael [mailto:MLeone at Contributionship.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 8:25 AM To: Netware 4 List (E-mail); Netware List (E-mail) Subject: ABEND w/Symantec AV 7.6 - Double Fault Processor Exception - duri ng definition update Quite a long subject line, but accurate. :-) NW51SP5 server, designated as PRIMARY server for Symantec AV server group. This is the server all workstations get their updates from. 2nd time now, I've gotten an ABEND: Server GINET01 halted Tuesday, February 11, 2003 3:15:05.215 am Abend 1 on P00: Server-5.00k: Double Fault Processor Exception (Error code 00000000) Running process: RTV Download Process Created by: NetWare Application Thread Owned by NLM: RTVSCAN.NLM Stack pointer: CA2DEE6C OS Stack limit: CA2DBA20 (stack overflow signature is missing - BAD STATE TO BE IN) Additional Information: The CPU encountered a problem executing code in BSDSOCK.NLM. The problem may be in that module or in data passed to that module by a process owned by RTVSCAN.NLM. RTVSCAN is the RealTimeVirus Scan portion of Symantec. Looks like it crashed during the scheduled nightly AV update (this server goes out to Symanetec and gets it updates directly). My question - I have the SAV v8.0 CDs, and am planning on upgrading ASAP. I'm concerned that this might be more of a bug in the TCP/IP stack (see the BSDSOCK reference). I have the TCP581o update. I will try applying that tomorrow (the server must be brought down, correct? Not just "REINITIALIZE SYSTEM" in INETCFG?) Then I will try updating the SAV to v8. Any other gotchas to be aware of? Should I uninstall SAV from the server first, or just update in place? -- ------------------------------------------------------------ Michael Leone, Systems Administrator Philadelphia Contributionship 210 S. 4th Street, Philadelphia, PA 19106 V: 215-627-1752 x1282 F: 215-627-5354 From phasenjager at fzacpa.com Tue Feb 11 15:26:44 2003 From: phasenjager at fzacpa.com (Patrick Hasenjager) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 09:26:44 -0600 Subject: Missing NAL Applications Message-ID: NW6 / Zen4 on Server W2K SP3 / 4.83 SP1 Client I have 2 users that keep losing the applications associated with their workstations. Any application associated with the user remains. Applications, workstations, and users are in separate OUs. Any help would be greatly appreciated. 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Although reasonable precautions are taken to assure this e-mail is virus free, we do not accept responsibility for the loss or damage arising from the use of this e-mail or attachments. From ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu Tue Feb 11 16:30:22 2003 From: ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 11:30:22 -0500 Subject: Sophos EM Message-ID: Anyone using, successfully, Sophos Enterprise Manager to update CID's on a Netware box? ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- Remember: once, everyone "Knew" the world was flat. --------------------------------------------------- From StephenP at hascal.com Tue Feb 11 16:44:59 2003 From: StephenP at hascal.com (Stephen Peterson) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 08:44:59 -0800 Subject: NW6 Licences not being released Message-ID: Michael, Temporary fix. Go in and clear the extra licenses each user has in NWAdmin. Thats what I did before I used the fix for back revving the NLSLSP.NLM. Stephen >>> "Michael Mollard" 11:49:00 PM Monday, February 10, 2003 >>> Hi all, Further to my previous email: I have multiple NW6sp2 servers in my eDir8.6.2sp2a tree. Each server is in it's own container. I have 1000 student accounts in a context but at any time only 200 of them can be connected to the server in their context. I currently have 600 licences (SLA) assigned to the server in question. The licence usage has climbed and does not come down. After looking in iManager, it seems that a single student has multiple licences, one each time they authenticate, spread over many days/machines. The students can no longer map drives to the server because there are no more licences available (from the Server Error Log). I understand that normal NW6 licences are one per user, and are held for 90 days. But I am using SLA licences that I believed were different. But even if I had 1000 licences (one per student) they still consume too many (many students have more than 1 'licence connection' in iManage). I have applied the Academic Licencing fix, and tried back-revving NLSLSP.NLM from NW6 CD. The problem continues. I am getting desperate as my network is grinding to an unusable mess. Any thoughts. Kind regards, _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From larry_burd at compuserve.com Tue Feb 11 17:15:22 2003 From: larry_burd at compuserve.com (Larry Burd) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:15:22 -0500 Subject: Intel switches and hubs ? Message-ID: <200302111215_MC3-1-2977-F335@compuserve.com> is it me or did Intel stop making hubs and switches? I have some switches and hubs here, and they work great.. went to the intel site to look up the lastest and greatest, and there is NO info on hubs or switches............ If so, any recommendations on hubs and switches please Larry From mbarham at ci.williamsburg.va.us Tue Feb 11 17:25:29 2003 From: mbarham at ci.williamsburg.va.us (Mark BARHAM) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:25:29 -0500 Subject: Intel switches and hubs ? Message-ID: As the old adage goes..No one ever got fired for buying Cisco.... >>> larry_burd at compuserve.com 02/11/03 12:15PM >>> is it me or did Intel stop making hubs and switches? I have some switches and hubs here, and they work great.. went to the intel site to look up the lastest and greatest, and there is NO info on hubs or switches............ If so, any recommendations on hubs and switches please Larry _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From bkonicke at myrealbox.com Tue Feb 11 22:43:55 2003 From: bkonicke at myrealbox.com (Bob Konicke) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 16:43:55 -0600 Subject: NWFTPD7 (was Re: Lightweight ftpd for 5.0) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3E497CAB.5030107@myrealbox.com> Dredging up an old thread, do you still feel that this beta_since_October fix is a good one, Geoffrey (and any others with experience)? I have a NW51SP5 server that just abended on what sounds like symptoms described in TID 2963989 (though the abend analyzer wouldn't confirm it). A user attempted to login with name of .userid..ou.o xxxyyy, the second string most likely being a password. Got a PFPE abend immediately on that event, then again shortly after a successful login by same user, according to the intruder log. Thanks. Geoffrey Carman wrote: >> It is named nwftpd.nlm. Light weight is the appropriate description. >>Alas, it has suffered from many ills with no end in sight. If you use it >>be sure to get the very latest version, and thus avoid known security holes. > > > I would recomend to anyone, if you experience Abends or issues > with the latest NWFTPD, to open an incident with Novell... The FTP team > is working hard at fixing this product. But they seem to have trouble > finding in the lab, all the problems we seem to find in the real world... > > As far as I can tell, the latest greatest (NWFTPD7) is pretty good > so far. (Knock on wood, or head, whichever is closest). > > --- > Geoffrey Carman > York University > geoffc at yorku.ca From bkonicke at myrealbox.com Tue Feb 11 22:50:29 2003 From: bkonicke at myrealbox.com (Bob Konicke) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 16:50:29 -0600 Subject: Intel switches and hubs ? In-Reply-To: <200302111215_MC3-1-2977-F335@compuserve.com> References: <200302111215_MC3-1-2977-F335@compuserve.com> Message-ID: <3E497E35.7080307@myrealbox.com> As with print servers (no longer a core biz for them), I would guess the support site should have a notice of discontinuation for those products. Bob Larry Burd wrote: > is it me or did Intel stop making hubs and switches? > I have some switches and hubs here, and they work great.. went to the > intel site to look up the lastest and greatest, and there is NO info on > hubs or switches............ > > If so, any recommendations on hubs and switches please > > Larry From MolM at cvxmck.edu.au Wed Feb 12 00:07:08 2003 From: MolM at cvxmck.edu.au (Michael Mollard) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 10:07:08 +1000 Subject: NW6 Licences not being released In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3E4A1CCC.18332.6F0B4E@localhost> Just curious, but there's the nlslsp.nlm in NW6 CD, there's an licencing academic fix out, and there's another patch related to nlslsp.nlm. I'm at a loss to which one I should use. pparently the cd version works best, but the academic fix is a later module? Thoughts? On 11 Feb 2003 at 7:45, Peter Van Lone wrote: > Open an incident? > > The duplicate assignments issue has always been fixed for me by > back-revving. There is a TID about it that suggests a couple other > things, I think ..... > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Mollard [mailto:molm at cvxmck.edu.au] > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 1:49 AM > To: NOVELL at netlab1.usu.edu; Netw4l at mail.otherwhen.com > Subject: NW6 Licences not being released > > > Hi all, > Further to my previous email: > I have multiple NW6sp2 servers in my eDir8.6.2sp2a tree. Each server is > in > it's own container. I have 1000 student accounts in a context but at > any time > only 200 of them can be connected to the server in their context. I > currently > have 600 licences (SLA) assigned to the server in question. The licence > usage > has climbed and does not come down. After looking in iManager, it seems > that a > single student has multiple licences, one each time they authenticate, > spread > over many days/machines. The students can no longer map drives to the > server > because there are no more licences available (from the Server Error > Log). I understand that normal NW6 licences are one per user, and are > held for 90 > days. But I am using SLA licences that I believed were different. But > even if > I had 1000 licences (one per student) they still consume too many (many > students have more than 1 'licence connection' in iManage). > > I have applied the Academic Licencing fix, and tried back-revving > NLSLSP.NLM > from NW6 CD. The problem continues. > > I am getting desperate as my network is grinding to an unusable mess. > Any > thoughts. > > Kind regards, > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell Michael Mollard - Network Administrator Clairvaux MacKillop College, Brisbane Qld Australia (Direct) +61 7 3347 4607 (Ph ) +61 7 3349 8977 (Fax) +61 7 3349 5677 From geoffc at YorkU.CA Wed Feb 12 04:17:40 2003 From: geoffc at YorkU.CA (Geoffrey Carman) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 23:17:40 -0500 (EST) Subject: NWFTPD7 (was Re: Lightweight ftpd for 5.0) In-Reply-To: <3E497CAB.5030107@myrealbox.com> References: <3E497CAB.5030107@myrealbox.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 11 Feb 2003, Bob Konicke wrote: > Dredging up an old thread, do you still feel that this > beta_since_October fix is a good one, Geoffrey (and any others with > experience)? I have a NW51SP5 server that just abended on what sounds > like symptoms described in TID 2963989 (though the abend analyzer > wouldn't confirm it). A user attempted to login with name of > .userid..ou.o xxxyyy, the second string most likely being a password. > Got a PFPE abend immediately on that event, then again shortly after a > successful login by same user, according to the intruder log. There is one more patch after this, that is not yet public. It officially fixes a Berkley Sockets leak. (Load Monitor, System Resources, Berkely Sockets, NWFTPD). The Berkley sockets should be nice and low, in the 10's. Not the thousands or hundreds it leaks to for some people. If you try to unload NWFTPD by hand, and it seems to hang the server, odds are excellent you have a socket leak, and it is just taking time to kill each socket. Can take a long time, and thus appear to be a hang. Otherwise, NWFTPD7 patch has been pretty good for us here. > Thanks. > > Geoffrey Carman wrote: > >> It is named nwftpd.nlm. Light weight is the appropriate description. > >>Alas, it has suffered from many ills with no end in sight. If you use it > >>be sure to get the very latest version, and thus avoid known security holes. > > > > > > I would recomend to anyone, if you experience Abends or issues > > with the latest NWFTPD, to open an incident with Novell... The FTP team > > is working hard at fixing this product. But they seem to have trouble > > finding in the lab, all the problems we seem to find in the real world... > > > > As far as I can tell, the latest greatest (NWFTPD7) is pretty good > > so far. (Knock on wood, or head, whichever is closest). > > > > --- > > Geoffrey Carman > > York University > > geoffc at yorku.ca > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > --- Geoffrey Carman York University geoffc at yorku.ca From rgrein at nwlink.com Wed Feb 12 07:25:18 2003 From: rgrein at nwlink.com (Randy Grein) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 23:25:18 -0800 Subject: SAN Recommendations In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <233869DF-3E5B-11D7-A9CA-0003937048F0@nwlink.com> On Monday, February 10, 2003, at 10:01 AM, Michael Balasko wrote: > Just a small point of consideration, but I was fortunate to get a tour > of the MSN facility and get > quality time with a few of their Senior guys. It was beyond amazing. > Anyhow, we asked about > SAN's and they are steadfast against them if I remember the quote as " > Unless I need to dangle > more than 8 SCSI cables out of a box". This was their SAN guy telling > us this. He cited many reasons, > 1. Manageability/Dedicated person. If something breaks and goes > unnoticed, the consequences of a > catastrophic failure of multiple machines is significantly higher. > 2. Cost- PURE FC Disks are fetching a HUGE premium over SCSI Disks. > 3. Speed - Ultra320 SCSI is faster than 2Gbps FC. SCSI - 320MBps vs > FC 250MBps. > There are a few other key points as well. > > BUT the GOLDEN NUGGET was > that if for whatever reason the Fed's came in and wanted your email > server for an investigation, > (a'la enron or tyco or take your pick) they could just up and take > your whole SAN. So the data of the > thirty other boxes are now gone as well. I thought that was a pretty > good one. > All that being said I think the HP/Compaq EVA is the way to go. I suspect the 'senior guy' doesn't know as much as he thinks he does, but then that's a common problem. 1. In a medium to large shop initial purchase is less than 20% of storage cost - the rest is management, as in people time. 2. Managability - you're a fool if you neglect instrumentation in a large shop. Keeping track of disk problems in a SAN environment is easier, not harder provided you build in instrumentation upfront, rather than hope you can add it on later. Yes, you need to provide redundancy, testing AND training for people - SAN technology, like any other is not a panacea. It IS a worthwhile tool when used in the right place, in the right way. 3. Anyone who has any business expressing an opinion on storage issues knows that the bus speed is not relevant for the vast majority of storage speed questions, especially when discussing tiny arrays of 8 drives. Nearly all servers are i/o bound on the disk platter due to the random-access nature of multi tasking systems. BTW, RAID 5 doesn't really begin to perform well until you get near 8 drives. The sweet spot seems to be around 16-30 drives, depending on the data set and access patterns. After that MTBF starts to go up for the aggregate array and reliability suffers. Most medium to large SAN systems will meld RAID level clusters above that level to maintain reliability and performance, while still providing flexibility. Oh, BTW - ultra 320 is 320 MegaBYTES/s, not Megabits/s. 4. Cost - FC drives are more expensive, but it's hardly a 'huge' premium. Last I checked (over a year ago) it was still twice the cost/megabyte, which is not insignificant - but hardly huge. 5. As the relevant data will be long gone from the email server I question this scenario - it's much more likely that your archives will attached, if not actually seized. I have friends that went through a legal discovery, and had to provide a separate server and restore backups when requested. It was a lot of work, but no equipment was seized. Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA From rmoletti at ops.org Wed Feb 12 11:25:00 2003 From: rmoletti at ops.org (Molettiere, Rich) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 05:25:00 -0600 Subject: Missing NAL Applications Message-ID: <20030212112433.46D13AD59@netlab1.usu.edu> Try disassociating the app, apply the change, and reassociate it. Don't know why but it has worked here. Rich Molettiere Technology Coordinator Omaha North High School "Technology is not a free lunch." >>> Patrick Hasenjager 02/11/03 09:26AM >>> NW6 / Zen4 on Server W2K SP3 / 4.83 SP1 Client I have 2 users that keep losing the applications associated with their workstations. Any application associated with the user remains. Applications, workstations, and users are in separate OUs. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Patrick Hasenjager Technical Support Specialist Frankel, Zacharia, Arnold, Nissen, Stamp & Reinsch, LLC Main: (402) 496-9100 Desk: (402) 963-4340 Fax: (402) 496-1024 phasenjager at fzacpa.com ************************************************************************** This e-mail and any attachments are intended only for the addressee. If you are not the addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail or attachments. Please immediately notify the sender if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete it from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender does not accept liability for errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise or occur during transmission. We will provide a "hard-copy" version of the message and attachments upon request. Although reasonable precautions are taken to assure this e-mail is virus free, we do not accept responsibility for the loss or damage arising from the use of this e-mail or attachments. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From admin at iaa.gov.il Wed Feb 12 14:53:57 2003 From: admin at iaa.gov.il (admin at iaa.gov.il) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 16:53:57 +0200 Subject: Missing NAL Applications Message-ID: This is a known bug in the Zen4 Agent setup that was released initially with Zen4. There is a new Beta MSI install that fixes this issue. So far we are installing the Beta (not yet officially released) and it has solved this issue for us. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Hasenjager [mailto:phasenjager at fzacpa.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 5:27 PM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: Missing NAL Applications NW6 / Zen4 on Server W2K SP3 / 4.83 SP1 Client I have 2 users that keep losing the applications associated with their workstations. Any application associated with the user remains. Applications, workstations, and users are in separate OUs. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Patrick Hasenjager Technical Support Specialist Frankel, Zacharia, Arnold, Nissen, Stamp & Reinsch, LLC Main: (402) 496-9100 Desk: (402) 963-4340 Fax: (402) 496-1024 phasenjager at fzacpa.com ************************************************************************ ** This e-mail and any attachments are intended only for the addressee. If you are not the addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail or attachments. 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Although reasonable precautions are taken to assure this e-mail is virus free, we do not accept responsibility for the loss or damage arising from the use of this e-mail or attachments. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From admin at iaa.gov.il Wed Feb 12 14:56:05 2003 From: admin at iaa.gov.il (admin at iaa.gov.il) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 16:56:05 +0200 Subject: Missing NAL Applications Message-ID: By the way...if you are thinking of reinstalling the MSI over the current agent install...don't !! Uninstall the current agent and reinstall the MSI completely. Should have mentioned that before. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Mike Glassman - Admin Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 4:54 PM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: RE: Missing NAL Applications This is a known bug in the Zen4 Agent setup that was released initially with Zen4. There is a new Beta MSI install that fixes this issue. So far we are installing the Beta (not yet officially released) and it has solved this issue for us. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Hasenjager [mailto:phasenjager at fzacpa.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 5:27 PM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: Missing NAL Applications NW6 / Zen4 on Server W2K SP3 / 4.83 SP1 Client I have 2 users that keep losing the applications associated with their workstations. Any application associated with the user remains. Applications, workstations, and users are in separate OUs. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Patrick Hasenjager Technical Support Specialist Frankel, Zacharia, Arnold, Nissen, Stamp & Reinsch, LLC Main: (402) 496-9100 Desk: (402) 963-4340 Fax: (402) 496-1024 phasenjager at fzacpa.com ************************************************************************ ** This e-mail and any attachments are intended only for the addressee. 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Although reasonable precautions are taken to assure this e-mail is virus free, we do not accept responsibility for the loss or damage arising from the use of this e-mail or attachments. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From phasenjager at fzacpa.com Wed Feb 12 14:54:20 2003 From: phasenjager at fzacpa.com (Patrick Hasenjager) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 08:54:20 -0600 Subject: Missing NAL Applications Message-ID: My apologies, I should have mentioned that we are not running the Zen4 Agent on the workstations. >>> admin at iaa.gov.il 02/12/03 08:53AM >>> This is a known bug in the Zen4 Agent setup that was released initially with Zen4. There is a new Beta MSI install that fixes this issue. So far we are installing the Beta (not yet officially released) and it has solved this issue for us. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Hasenjager [mailto:phasenjager at fzacpa.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 5:27 PM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: Missing NAL Applications NW6 / Zen4 on Server W2K SP3 / 4.83 SP1 Client I have 2 users that keep losing the applications associated with their workstations. Any application associated with the user remains. Applications, workstations, and users are in separate OUs. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Patrick Hasenjager Technical Support Specialist Frankel, Zacharia, Arnold, Nissen, Stamp & Reinsch, LLC Main: (402) 496-9100 Desk: (402) 963-4340 Fax: (402) 496-1024 phasenjager at fzacpa.com ************************************************************************ ** This e-mail and any attachments are intended only for the addressee. 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E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender does not accept liability for errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise or occur during transmission. We will provide a "hard-copy" version of the message and attachments upon request. Although reasonable precautions are taken to assure this e-mail is virus free, we do not accept responsibility for the loss or damage arising from the use of this e-mail or attachments. From admin at iaa.gov.il Wed Feb 12 15:08:52 2003 From: admin at iaa.gov.il (admin at iaa.gov.il) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 17:08:52 +0200 Subject: Missing NAL Applications Message-ID: :) In that case, I have no idea. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Hasenjager [mailto:phasenjager at fzacpa.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 4:54 PM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: RE: Missing NAL Applications My apologies, I should have mentioned that we are not running the Zen4 Agent on the workstations. >>> admin at iaa.gov.il 02/12/03 08:53AM >>> This is a known bug in the Zen4 Agent setup that was released initially with Zen4. There is a new Beta MSI install that fixes this issue. So far we are installing the Beta (not yet officially released) and it has solved this issue for us. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Hasenjager [mailto:phasenjager at fzacpa.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 5:27 PM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: Missing NAL Applications NW6 / Zen4 on Server W2K SP3 / 4.83 SP1 Client I have 2 users that keep losing the applications associated with their workstations. Any application associated with the user remains. Applications, workstations, and users are in separate OUs. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Patrick Hasenjager Technical Support Specialist Frankel, Zacharia, Arnold, Nissen, Stamp & Reinsch, LLC Main: (402) 496-9100 Desk: (402) 963-4340 Fax: (402) 496-1024 phasenjager at fzacpa.com ************************************************************************ ** This e-mail and any attachments are intended only for the addressee. If you are not the addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail or attachments. Please immediately notify the sender if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete it from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender does not accept liability for errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise or occur during transmission. 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Although reasonable precautions are taken to assure this e-mail is virus free, we do not accept responsibility for the loss or damage arising from the use of this e-mail or attachments. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From jdisett at salisbury.edu Wed Feb 12 15:21:25 2003 From: jdisett at salisbury.edu (Jonathan Isett) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 10:21:25 -0500 Subject: installing first nw6 in nw51 tree Message-ID: Everyone: Does the information in tid 10066345 still hold true for installing the first nw6 server in a nw51 tree? I am about to do this install and want to be prepared for errors that I may get. The tid says to modify a .sch file on the original nw6 cd to change a class attribute and then regen the nw6 cd with the fixed file. Just wanted to know if anyone had found out if this worked ok or had tried it. I did get the error -699 when i tried to import the schema from the nw6 test tree into my n51 tree. Thanks, Jonathan Isett Network Administrator Salisbury University jdisett at salisbury.edu From jlindblom at mico.com Wed Feb 12 15:22:49 2003 From: jlindblom at mico.com (jlindblom at mico.com) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 09:22:49 -0600 Subject: Public rights to Server Object Message-ID: I have something strange going on here, everyone has access to averything on all volumes of my server. File system rights are correct but yet they have full access to everything and I notices looking at the trustee assignment to the server object show PUBLIC has full supervisor rights. What rights should PUBLIC have. I can't see how everyone would have full rights to everything, it just started apparently a couple of days ago. John Lindblom Network Administrator MICO, Inc. North Mankato, MN From JRD at cc.usu.edu Wed Feb 12 14:29:49 2003 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 08:29:49 -0600 (MDT) Subject: installing first nw6 in nw51 tree Message-ID: <01KSCEAEUL6QAYLMWK@cc.usu.edu> > >Does the information in tid 10066345 still hold true for installing the >first nw6 server in a nw51 tree? I am about to do this install and want >to be prepared for errors that I may get. The tid says to modify a .sch >file on the original nw6 cd to change a class attribute and then regen >the nw6 cd with the fixed file. Just wanted to know if anyone had found >out if this worked ok or had tried it. I did get the error -699 when i >tried to import the schema from the nw6 test tree into my n51 tree. > >Thanks, > > >Jonathan Isett >Network Administrator >Salisbury University >jdisett at salisbury.edu ------------- It is not the version of NW which counts. It is the version of NDS which is vital to this exercise. Upgrade NW 5.1 to the same version as that on NW 6, then add NW 6. No problems, no tinkering with .sch files. Joe D. From ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu Wed Feb 12 15:48:19 2003 From: ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 10:48:19 -0500 Subject: Public rights to Server Object Message-ID: >I have something strange going on here, everyone has access to >averything >on all volumes of my server. File system rights are correct but yet they >have full access to everything and I notices looking at the trustee >assignment to the server object show PUBLIC has full supervisor rights. >What rights should PUBLIC have. > >I can't see how everyone would have full rights to everything, it just >started apparently a couple of days ago. > > >John Lindblom >Network Administrator >MICO, Inc. >North Mankato, MN > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell Public needs no more that "browse" rights to the tree. If that. Your decision. I'm assuming this is the DS PUBLIC object. Is the S right explicitly made? I've seen PUBLIC end up with the W right set, which, in effect, gives full rights to everyone in the tree. At least this was the case in earlier versions of DS. It seemed to happen after installing something, like UNIX services. That was in 4.x days. ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- Remember: once, everyone "Knew" the world was flat. --------------------------------------------------- From John at coastal.edu Wed Feb 12 16:32:50 2003 From: John at coastal.edu (John Hanna) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 11:32:50 -0500 Subject: Print accounting Message-ID: <004801c2d2b4$65d43ef0$041478c7@ccu03722> Our lab coordinator is looking for an electronic way to keep track of printing per user. The labs on campus charge back the students a small fee per page. Well, so many labs and wired class rooms have popped up around campus that the students quickly find places where they can get around the charge and abuse the paper and toner/ink supply. Does any one know of a way to keep quotas, accounting information regarding printing on the network per printer and or user? John Hanna Network Services Manager Coastal Carolina University PO Box 261954 Conway, SC 29528-6054 Phone:(843)349-2150 Fax: (843)349-2990 Email: John at coastal.edu From dtran at ssc.ucla.edu Wed Feb 12 16:33:41 2003 From: dtran at ssc.ucla.edu (Daniel Tran) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 08:33:41 -0800 Subject: strange problem - nw6 server crash Message-ID: <001001c2d2b4$80950030$49e56180@hp1> Hi, Last night my nw6+sp2 crashed (i believe during backup). I'm still looking into to it. Upon reboot, the server failed to load completely and gave this message at the console: "Libc.nlm cannot load essential unicode translation tables from the NLS subdirectory where server.exe is installed. Module usbio.nlm cannot be loaded until libc is loaded". I proceeded to look inside c:\nwserver and found that subdirectory NLS is GONE !!!. Luckily, I always xcopy c:*.* /s to my D: drive therefore I was able to replace the NLS directory - Server loaded fine after that. How can this happen?. Has anyone experienced this before?. Thanks Daniel Tran - dtran at ssc.ucla.edu From mdlaat at muisnetwerken.nl Wed Feb 12 16:37:00 2003 From: mdlaat at muisnetwerken.nl (Maurice de Laat) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 17:37:00 +0100 Subject: Print accounting In-Reply-To: <004801c2d2b4$65d43ef0$041478c7@ccu03722>; from John@coastal.edu on Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 11:32:50AM -0500 References: <004801c2d2b4$65d43ef0$041478c7@ccu03722> Message-ID: <20030212173700.C19360@www.extern-systeembeheer.nl> On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 11:32:50AM -0500, John Hanna wrote: > Does any > one know of a way to keep quotas, accounting information regarding > printing on the network per printer and or user? There's a very popular product being used here in the Netherlands, called Maggy. You can find more info at http://www.aenova.nl/maggy/ I don't know of a us version. -- Maurice de Laat Muis Netwerken From JRD at cc.usu.edu Wed Feb 12 15:39:24 2003 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 09:39:24 -0600 (MDT) Subject: strange problem - nw6 server crash Message-ID: <01KSCGP1SRZ6AYLN0E@cc.usu.edu> >Hi, >Last night my nw6+sp2 crashed (i believe during backup). I'm still >looking into to it. >Upon reboot, the server failed to load completely and gave this message >at the console: >"Libc.nlm cannot load essential unicode translation tables from the NLS >subdirectory where server.exe is installed. Module usbio.nlm cannot be >loaded until libc is loaded". > >I proceeded to look inside c:\nwserver and found that subdirectory NLS >is GONE !!!. > >Luckily, I always xcopy c:*.* /s to my D: drive therefore I was able to >replace the NLS directory - Server loaded fine after that. > >How can this happen?. Has anyone experienced this before?. > >Thanks >Daniel Tran - dtran at ssc.ucla.edu ----------- Guessing from outside won't be of much use. Look at how the server was setup and what was being backed up. I have in mind if you left the DOS partition mounted to NW, and if the disk system were not well adjusted. We have no idea what those factors are, so you need to peek at the innards. Joe D. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From bud at moldriteplastics.com Wed Feb 12 16:41:26 2003 From: bud at moldriteplastics.com (Bud Durland) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 11:41:26 -0500 Subject: Print accounting In-Reply-To: <004801c2d2b4$65d43ef0$041478c7@ccu03722> References: <004801c2d2b4$65d43ef0$041478c7@ccu03722> Message-ID: <3E4A7936.8020307@moldriteplastics.com> Check out http://www.pcounter.com John Hanna wrote: >Our lab coordinator is looking for an electronic way to keep track of >printing per user. The labs on campus charge back the students a small >fee per page. Well, so many labs and wired class rooms have popped up >around campus that the students quickly find places where they can get >around the charge and abuse the paper and toner/ink supply. Does any >one know of a way to keep quotas, accounting information regarding >printing on the network per printer and or user? > >John Hanna >Network Services Manager >Coastal Carolina University >PO Box 261954 >Conway, SC 29528-6054 >Phone:(843)349-2150 Fax: (843)349-2990 >Email: John at coastal.edu > > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Pinky, are you pondering whay I'm pondering?" "I think so, Brain, but really, me and Pippi Longstockings? I mean, what would the children look like?" ------------------------------------------------------------------- Bud Durland, CNE Mold-Rite Plastics Network Administrator http://www.mrpcap.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- From dtran at ssc.ucla.edu Wed Feb 12 16:42:14 2003 From: dtran at ssc.ucla.edu (Daniel Tran) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 08:42:14 -0800 Subject: Print accounting In-Reply-To: <004801c2d2b4$65d43ef0$041478c7@ccu03722> Message-ID: <001201c2d2b5$b26e1eb0$49e56180@hp1> We're using Pcounter from www.andtechnologies.com - It works very well. Daniel Tran - dtran at ssc.ucla.edu > -----Original Message----- > From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu > [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of John Hanna > Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 8:33 AM > To: Novell LAN Interest Group > Subject: Print accounting > > > Our lab coordinator is looking for an electronic way to keep > track of printing per user. The labs on campus charge back > the students a small fee per page. Well, so many labs and > wired class rooms have popped up around campus that the > students quickly find places where they can get around the > charge and abuse the paper and toner/ink supply. Does any > one know of a way to keep quotas, accounting information > regarding printing on the network per printer and or user? > > John Hanna > Network Services Manager > Coastal Carolina University > PO Box 261954 > Conway, SC 29528-6054 > Phone:(843)349-2150 Fax: (843)349-2990 > Email: John at coastal.edu > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > From JRD at cc.usu.edu Wed Feb 12 15:42:46 2003 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 09:42:46 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Print accounting Message-ID: <01KSCGRICK54AYLN0E@cc.usu.edu> >Our lab coordinator is looking for an electronic way to keep track of >printing per user. The labs on campus charge back the students a small >fee per page. Well, so many labs and wired class rooms have popped up >around campus that the students quickly find places where they can get >around the charge and abuse the paper and toner/ink supply. Does any >one know of a way to keep quotas, accounting information regarding >printing on the network per printer and or user? > >John Hanna >Network Services Manager >Coastal Carolina University >PO Box 261954 >Conway, SC 29528-6054 >Phone:(843)349-2150 Fax: (843)349-2990 >Email: John at coastal.edu --------- We get a round of this question about every three months or so. May I offer two suggestions. First one is hit the list's archives and see what the previous rounds said. Second is look at Pcounter and GPAS products. They are most mentioned. For GPAS details, visit http://www.salfordsoftware.com/. Joe D. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From Nathan.Hensal at highland.edu Wed Feb 12 16:48:52 2003 From: Nathan.Hensal at highland.edu (Nathan Hensal) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 10:48:52 -0600 Subject: Print accounting Message-ID: We are also looking for a way to be able to monitor network printing. We too are curious what others are using for software and or hardware solutions to monitor and charge per page for student printing. Perhaps this product would be a solution ? "PCOUNTER" http://www.andtechnologies.com/pcounter.html From what I understand on their web site, this software solution presents the user a pop up window when they submit a print job showing them their dollar balance on their own printing account and shows them how much the submitted print job will deduct from their current balance. It also keeps logs on user printing statistics. I am wondering if others have looked at PCOUNTER and had success with the product. Thanks!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nathan Hensal -- Network Administrator Highland Community College - Freeport, IL USA Voice: 815.599.3599 Fax: 815.599.3632 Nathan.Hensal at highland.edu www.highland.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> John at coastal.edu 02/12/03 10:32AM >>> Our lab coordinator is looking for an electronic way to keep track of printing per user. The labs on campus charge back the students a small fee per page. Well, so many labs and wired class rooms have popped up around campus that the students quickly find places where they can get around the charge and abuse the paper and toner/ink supply. Does any one know of a way to keep quotas, accounting information regarding printing on the network per printer and or user? John Hanna Network Services Manager Coastal Carolina University PO Box 261954 Conway, SC 29528-6054 Phone:(843)349-2150 Fax: (843)349-2990 Email: John at coastal.edu _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From MPB at ci.henderson.nv.us Wed Feb 12 16:57:58 2003 From: MPB at ci.henderson.nv.us (Michael Balasko) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 08:57:58 -0800 Subject: SAN Recommendations Message-ID: My comments inline for readability. >>I suspect the 'senior guy' doesn't know as much as he thinks he does, >>but then that's a common problem. Possible, but I doubt it. 1. In a medium to large shop initial purchase is less than 20% of storage cost - the rest is management, as in people time. What's medium to large in a number form? >2. Managability - you're a fool if you neglect instrumentation in a l>arge shop. Keeping track of disk problems in a SAN environment is >easier, not harder provided you build in instrumentation upfront, >rather than hope you can add it on later. Yes, you need to provide >redundancy, testing AND training for people - SAN technology, like any >other is not a panacea. It IS a worthwhile tool when used in the right >place, in the right way. No arguement here at all, but SAN is the buzzword of the year, and everyone wants one regardless if it makes sense or not. "You can virtualize storage and add capacity on the fly" sounds a lot like a lack of planning to me. But to each his own. >3. Anyone who has any business expressing an opinion on storage issues >knows that the bus speed is not relevant for the vast majority of >storage speed questions, especially when discussing tiny arrays of 8 >drives. Nearly all servers are i/o bound on the disk platter due to the >random-access nature of multi tasking systems. BTW, RAID 5 doesn't >really begin to perform well until you get near 8 drives. The sweet >spot seems to be around 16-30 drives, depending on the data set and >access patterns. After that MTBF starts to go up for the aggregate >array and reliability suffers. Most medium to large SAN systems will >meld RAID level clusters above that level to maintain reliability and >performance, while still providing flexibility. Oh, BTW - ultra 320 is >320 MegaBYTES/s, not Megabits/s. We use RAID 0+1 here for everything, so we don't get beat with the Double write/Calculation penalty. BTW, I know its megaBYTES, I'm not sure where you saw me say bits. Here is my original line- > 3. Speed - Ultra320 SCSI is faster than 2Gbps FC. SCSI - 320MBps vs > FC 250MBps. > There are a few other key points as well. >4. Cost - FC drives are more expensive, but it's hardly a 'huge' >premium. Last I checked (over a year ago) it was still twice the >cost/megabyte, which is not insignificant - but hardly huge. Our pricing for 72GB 10K U3 SCSI is 466.00, the same drive FC is 1380.00. So were sitting at nearly 3x the cost. I'll stand by my original statement. >5. As the relevant data will be long gone from the email server I question this scenario - it's much more likely that your archives will attached, if not actually seized. I have friends that went through a legal discovery, and had to provide a separate server and restore backups when requested. It was a lot of work, but no equipment was seized. Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA Like I said its all up to how bad they want you. Or how big the fruad claim is. Mike Balasko CCDA, CCNP, MCNE 5, MCP, MCSE2K, SCP, N+, A+ City of Henderson DoIT Network Specialist II ph:702.565.4226 Security is not a product that can be purchased off the shelf, but consists of policies, people, processes, and technology. -Kevin Mitnick From jgroetsema at uop.edu Wed Feb 12 17:00:20 2003 From: jgroetsema at uop.edu (Jeff Groetsema) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 09:00:20 -0800 Subject: installing first nw6 in nw51 tree Message-ID: Joe, We are looking to migrate all of our servers from NW5.1 SP5 to NW6 (SP?). We plan on upgrading one server to new hardware using the Wizard and all others will be in place migrations. Is there a document that you know of that accurately outlines what needs to be done? It seems that there are discrepancies between what Novell says and experiences of this list. Thanks, Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu >>> JRD at cc.usu.edu 02/12/03 06:29AM >>> > >Does the information in tid 10066345 still hold true for installing the >first nw6 server in a nw51 tree? I am about to do this install and want >to be prepared for errors that I may get. The tid says to modify a .sch >file on the original nw6 cd to change a class attribute and then regen >the nw6 cd with the fixed file. Just wanted to know if anyone had found >out if this worked ok or had tried it. I did get the error -699 when i >tried to import the schema from the nw6 test tree into my n51 tree. > >Thanks, > > >Jonathan Isett >Network Administrator >Salisbury University >jdisett at salisbury.edu ------------- It is not the version of NW which counts. It is the version of NDS which is vital to this exercise. Upgrade NW 5.1 to the same version as that on NW 6, then add NW 6. No problems, no tinkering with .sch files. Joe D. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From John at coastal.edu Wed Feb 12 17:03:37 2003 From: John at coastal.edu (John Hanna) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:03:37 -0500 Subject: Print accounting In-Reply-To: <01KSCGRICK54AYLN0E@cc.usu.edu> Message-ID: <004a01c2d2b8$b2221a30$041478c7@ccu03722> -----Original Message----- > We get a round of this question about every three months or so. May I offer two suggestions. > First one is hit the list's archives and see what the previous rounds said. > Second is look at Pcounter and GPAS products. They are most mentioned. For GPAS details, visit >> http://www.salfordsoftware.com/. Joe D. Interesting, I have been on this for years and do not recall seeing anything on this subject lately. A quick search on the archives with the string "print accounting" finds nothing newer than the year 2000. From dtran at ssc.ucla.edu Wed Feb 12 17:03:56 2003 From: dtran at ssc.ucla.edu (Daniel Tran) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 09:03:56 -0800 Subject: strange problem - nw6 server crash In-Reply-To: <01KSCGP1SRZ6AYLN0E@cc.usu.edu> Message-ID: <001301c2d2b8$ba52a8f0$49e56180@hp1> > -----Original Message----- > From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu > [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Joe Doupnik > Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 7:39 AM > To: NOVELL at netlab1.usu.edu > Subject: Re: strange problem - nw6 server crash > > > >Hi, > >Last night my nw6+sp2 crashed (i believe during backup). I'm still > >looking into to it. Upon reboot, the server failed to load > completely > >and gave this message at the console: > >"Libc.nlm cannot load essential unicode translation tables > from the NLS > >subdirectory where server.exe is installed. Module > usbio.nlm cannot be > >loaded until libc is loaded". > > > >I proceeded to look inside c:\nwserver and found that > subdirectory NLS > >is GONE !!!. > > > >Luckily, I always xcopy c:*.* /s to my D: drive therefore I > was able to > >replace the NLS directory - Server loaded fine after that. > > > >How can this happen?. Has anyone experienced this before?. > > > >Thanks > >Daniel Tran - dtran at ssc.ucla.edu > ----------- > Guessing from outside won't be of much use. Look at how > the server was setup and what was being backed up. I have in > mind if you left the DOS partition mounted to NW, and if the > disk system were not well adjusted. We have no idea what > those factors are, so you need to peek at the innards. > Joe D. Thanks Joe. The server is setup with a pair of drives (DOS partition same size). The remaining disk space of these drives are used to hold SYS partition (NSS) and let it mirrored. The rest of the system has 8 (72GB) drives in a RAID 5. One NSS volume DATA. I'll keep poking around. On a somewhat related issue, during a test backup yesterday (I'm using Veritas Netbackup Data Center 4.5 to backup the server across the network to a tape library hosting by a SUN box. The NW server has the agent loaded), I get this: NSS - 3.00.5001: Pool sscnw601/DATA is being deactivated. An I/O error (20204 (zio.c[1895])) at block 66388392 (file block 233447) (ZID 3) has compromised pool integrity. I performed a nss /poolverify and the volume has zero error or warning. I did a search on KB using string zio.c and found a TID. It points to a possible "bad" drive in the array. I doubt it a bad drive. It's possible a driver or controller issue or possibly a "bad" file on the volume causing netbackup to go crazy. BTW, It's a compaq proliant 530ML with a 5304 smart array controller. Daniel - dtran at ssc.ucla.edu From dtran at ssc.ucla.edu Wed Feb 12 17:10:30 2003 From: dtran at ssc.ucla.edu (Daniel Tran) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 09:10:30 -0800 Subject: Print accounting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001401c2d2b9$a51a6b70$49e56180@hp1> Yes . We've been using it for a long time here (since the day Andy Charmatz was at UCLA) . It works. Download it and test drive. Tech support is good too. Daniel > -----Original Message----- > From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu > [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Nathan Hensal > Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 8:49 AM > To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu > Subject: Re: Print accounting > > > We are also looking for a way to be able to monitor network printing. > We too are curious what others are using for software and or > hardware solutions to monitor and charge per page for student > printing. > > Perhaps this product would be a solution - "PCOUNTER" > http://www.andtechnologies.com/pcounter.html From > what I > understand on their web site, this software solution presents > the user a pop up window when they submit a print job showing > them their dollar balance on their own printing account and > shows them how much the submitted print job will deduct from > their current balance. It also keeps logs on user printing > statistics. > > I am wondering if others have looked at PCOUNTER and had > success with the product. > > Thanks!! > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------ > Nathan Hensal -- Network Administrator > Highland Community College - Freeport, IL USA > Voice: 815.599.3599 Fax: 815.599.3632 > Nathan.Hensal at highland.edu www.highland.edu > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------ > > >>> John at coastal.edu 02/12/03 10:32AM >>> > Our lab coordinator is looking for an electronic way to keep > track of printing per user. The labs on campus charge back > the students a small fee per page. Well, so many labs and > wired class rooms have popped up around campus that the > students quickly find places where they can get around the > charge and abuse the paper and toner/ink supply. Does any > one know of a way to keep quotas, accounting information > regarding printing on the network per printer and or user? > > John Hanna > Network Services Manager > Coastal Carolina University > PO Box 261954 > Conway, SC 29528-6054 > Phone:(843)349-2150 Fax: (843)349-2990 > Email: John at coastal.edu > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > From JRD at cc.usu.edu Wed Feb 12 16:15:11 2003 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 10:15:11 -0600 (MDT) Subject: installing first nw6 in nw51 tree Message-ID: <01KSCHLNH2C8AYLN0W@cc.usu.edu> >We are looking to migrate all of our servers from NW5.1 SP5 to NW6 (SP?). = >We plan on upgrading one server to new hardware using the Wizard and all = >others will be in place migrations. Is there a document that you know of = >that accurately outlines what needs to be done? It seems that there are = >discrepancies between what Novell says and experiences of this list. > >Thanks, > > >Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services >University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law >jgroetsema at uop.edu ---------- Another golden not-so-oldie. We've hashed this one thoroughly too. The ideas are quite simple. All the worries are about NDS, the only thing which really crosses between servers (aside from SLP). To play safe and sound, make all servers be of the same NDS version, that which will absorb NW 6. Let dust settle, as usual. I qualify that a bit by saying make all servers in the NDS replica ring use the same version of NDS. The Migration Wizard shipped in the NW 6.0 FCS disks has been improved and superceded by an edition on Novell's web site. Use it. It has very extensive assistance material, please do read that before plunging ahead. Before making changes we know to make quite thorough backups, not once by hopefully two different ways. We don't trust backup software very far either. Check that restoration actually works, and that you can run the backup software on a virgin machine (an emergency rebuild, if that need arises). Then follow directions in MigWiz. I will offer these hints. Turn off all IP connectivity between servers and with the client. Use only IPX. Ensure comms are rock solid; test it. Then fire up MigWiz and let it grind away for hours. The IPX part is because Novell's software fumbles when trying to look up NDS Tree names in NDS, a lookup which still astounds me. Comms can fail at the most delicate moments. Add IP back again after migration has finished. In this operation we need to use our grey matter and experience. Blindly following Tech Support docs is not the way to go. We also create a fallback plan in case the worst happens: migration fails, new server is unusable, old server has been de-servered. Joe D. From JRD at cc.usu.edu Wed Feb 12 16:17:32 2003 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 10:17:32 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Print accounting Message-ID: <01KSCI2PZX9AAYLN0W@cc.usu.edu> >> We get a round of this question about every three months or so. >May I offer two suggestions. >> First one is hit the list's archives and see what the previous >rounds said. >> Second is look at Pcounter and GPAS products. They are most >mentioned. For GPAS details, visit >> http://www.salfordsoftware.com/. > Joe D. > >Interesting, I have been on this for years and do not recall seeing >anything on this subject lately. A quick search on the archives with >the string "print accounting" finds nothing newer than the year 2000. ----------- Did you also try page count as a common phrase? Joe D. From jgroetsema at uop.edu Wed Feb 12 17:21:50 2003 From: jgroetsema at uop.edu (Jeff Groetsema) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 09:21:50 -0800 Subject: installing first nw6 in nw51 tree Message-ID: Joe, As usual, thanks agian. Jeff >>> JRD at cc.usu.edu 02/12/03 08:15AM >>> >We are looking to migrate all of our servers from NW5.1 SP5 to NW6 (SP?). = >We plan on upgrading one server to new hardware using the Wizard and all = >others will be in place migrations. Is there a document that you know of = >that accurately outlines what needs to be done? It seems that there are = >discrepancies between what Novell says and experiences of this list. > >Thanks, > > >Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services >University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law >jgroetsema at uop.edu ---------- Another golden not-so-oldie. We've hashed this one thoroughly too. The ideas are quite simple. All the worries are about NDS, the only thing which really crosses between servers (aside from SLP). To play safe and sound, make all servers be of the same NDS version, that which will absorb NW 6. Let dust settle, as usual. I qualify that a bit by saying make all servers in the NDS replica ring use the same version of NDS. The Migration Wizard shipped in the NW 6.0 FCS disks has been improved and superceded by an edition on Novell's web site. Use it. It has very extensive assistance material, please do read that before plunging ahead. Before making changes we know to make quite thorough backups, not once by hopefully two different ways. We don't trust backup software very far either. Check that restoration actually works, and that you can run the backup software on a virgin machine (an emergency rebuild, if that need arises). Then follow directions in MigWiz. I will offer these hints. Turn off all IP connectivity between servers and with the client. Use only IPX. Ensure comms are rock solid; test it. Then fire up MigWiz and let it grind away for hours. The IPX part is because Novell's software fumbles when trying to look up NDS Tree names in NDS, a lookup which still astounds me. Comms can fail at the most delicate moments. Add IP back again after migration has finished. In this operation we need to use our grey matter and experience. Blindly following Tech Support docs is not the way to go. We also create a fallback plan in case the worst happens: migration fails, new server is unusable, old server has been de-servered. Joe D. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From John at coastal.edu Wed Feb 12 17:27:09 2003 From: John at coastal.edu (John Hanna) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:27:09 -0500 Subject: Print accounting In-Reply-To: <01KSCI2PZX9AAYLN0W@cc.usu.edu> Message-ID: <005601c2d2bb$fdd3f900$041478c7@ccu03722> Yeah, Same results. Everything is prior to 2000. Am I visiting the wrong page now? I am using http://netlab2.usu.edu/NSearch/SearchServlet?site=novfaq -----Original Message----- From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Joe Doupnik Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 11:18 AM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: Re: Print accounting >> We get a round of this question about every three months or so. >May I offer two suggestions. >> First one is hit the list's archives and see what the previous >rounds said. >> Second is look at Pcounter and GPAS products. They are most >mentioned. For GPAS details, visit >> http://www.salfordsoftware.com/. > Joe D. > >Interesting, I have been on this for years and do not recall seeing >anything on this subject lately. A quick search on the archives with >the string "print accounting" finds nothing newer than the year 2000. ----------- Did you also try page count as a common phrase? Joe D. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From jlindblom at mico.com Wed Feb 12 17:28:41 2003 From: jlindblom at mico.com (jlindblom at mico.com) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 11:28:41 -0600 Subject: Public rights to Server Object Message-ID: It turned out to be rights were assigned to an OU from iManager when I was setting up some role based administration. I thought I was careful setting up a role but I guess I goofed, it's kind of a clumsy interface to work with when your not use to it. John Lindblom Network Administrator MICO, Inc. North Mankato, MN "Joe Acquisto" tz.edu> cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: Public rights to Server Object novell-bounces at netla b1.usu.edu 02/12/2003 09:48 AM Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group >I have something strange going on here, everyone has access to >averything >on all volumes of my server. File system rights are correct but yet they >have full access to everything and I notices looking at the trustee >assignment to the server object show PUBLIC has full supervisor rights. >What rights should PUBLIC have. > >I can't see how everyone would have full rights to everything, it just >started apparently a couple of days ago. > > >John Lindblom >Network Administrator >MICO, Inc. >North Mankato, MN > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell Public needs no more that "browse" rights to the tree. If that. Your decision. I'm assuming this is the DS PUBLIC object. Is the S right explicitly made? I've seen PUBLIC end up with the W right set, which, in effect, gives full rights to everyone in the tree. At least this was the case in earlier versions of DS. It seemed to happen after installing something, like UNIX services. That was in 4.x days. ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- Remember: once, everyone "Knew" the world was flat. --------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From JRD at cc.usu.edu Wed Feb 12 16:35:36 2003 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 10:35:36 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Print accounting Message-ID: <01KSCINYIBWYAYLN2A@cc.usu.edu> > >Yeah, Same results. Everything is prior to 2000. Am I visiting the >wrong page now? I am using >http://netlab2.usu.edu/NSearch/SearchServlet?site=novfaq ------- That's the list's FAQ. We have not had a volunteer maintainer for some time. Alsi try the list's archives, which are current. Joe D. From JRD at cc.usu.edu Wed Feb 12 16:41:12 2003 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 10:41:12 -0600 (MDT) Subject: installing first nw6 in nw51 tree Message-ID: <01KSCIQKVMIWAYLN2A@cc.usu.edu> Let me add a few words on insight on MigWiz which may help folks. MigWiz does two basic jobs spread over four major steps. These are clearly shown on the MigWiz screens and in assistance/prep docs. One job is to move files between servers. Rights are held in a separate text file and reapplied later. The second job is to backup NDS on the source, move it to the destination, and then the really tricky bit of removing NDS from the source and pouring it into the destination. Slips during the second job are fatal, and they can happen easily. TSA style work is used to move material between servers. Comms _must_ work continuously during the second job. It's NDS which worries us. Having the same versions, and the same schema, on all servers in the ring is the safest approach. Joe D. From jgroetsema at uop.edu Wed Feb 12 18:29:07 2003 From: jgroetsema at uop.edu (Jeff Groetsema) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 10:29:07 -0800 Subject: Incomplete drive mappings Message-ID: We have a situation going on here where occasionally users will not receive all the drive mappings they are supposed to have. This usually seems to happen with mappings to two particular servers, both of which are NW5.1 and neither of which is taxed heavily. This happens with Win98, Win2K, and WinXP systems, each with the latest client for the platform. Has anyone else seen similar issues? Thanks, Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu From skiphefel at advanced-data.com Wed Feb 12 19:20:11 2003 From: skiphefel at advanced-data.com (Skip Hefel) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:20:11 -0600 Subject: Missing NAL Applications Message-ID: <2C2609144800D611A50A006008F61227018113ED@AXIAL.advanced-data.com> Check Nalwin32 file version, this or another file may be corrupted or with a bug. We ran into that about 1.5 years ago when applying a Zen service patch. S -----Original Message----- From: admin at iaa.gov.il [mailto:admin at iaa.gov.il] Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 9:09 AM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: RE: Missing NAL Applications :) In that case, I have no idea. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Hasenjager [mailto:phasenjager at fzacpa.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 4:54 PM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: RE: Missing NAL Applications My apologies, I should have mentioned that we are not running the Zen4 Agent on the workstations. >>> admin at iaa.gov.il 02/12/03 08:53AM >>> This is a known bug in the Zen4 Agent setup that was released initially with Zen4. There is a new Beta MSI install that fixes this issue. So far we are installing the Beta (not yet officially released) and it has solved this issue for us. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Hasenjager [mailto:phasenjager at fzacpa.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 5:27 PM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: Missing NAL Applications NW6 / Zen4 on Server W2K SP3 / 4.83 SP1 Client I have 2 users that keep losing the applications associated with their workstations. Any application associated with the user remains. Applications, workstations, and users are in separate OUs. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Patrick Hasenjager Technical Support Specialist Frankel, Zacharia, Arnold, Nissen, Stamp & Reinsch, LLC Main: (402) 496-9100 Desk: (402) 963-4340 Fax: (402) 496-1024 phasenjager at fzacpa.com *********** From ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu Wed Feb 12 19:22:48 2003 From: ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 14:22:48 -0500 Subject: no create printer option in imanger Message-ID: Trying to create a new printer, via imanger, there is no create printer option available. NW6, sp2, edir 862 sp3 ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- Remember: once, everyone "Knew" the world was flat. --------------------------------------------------- From ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu Wed Feb 12 19:28:20 2003 From: ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 14:28:20 -0500 Subject: Incomplete drive mappings Message-ID: >We have a situation going on here where occasionally users will not >receive all the drive mappings they are supposed to have. This usually >seems to happen with mappings to two particular servers, both of which >are NW5.1 and neither of which is taxed heavily. This happens with >Win98, Win2K, and WinXP systems, each with the latest client for the >platform. > >Has anyone else seen similar issues? > >Thanks, > > >Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services >University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law Any associated error messages in the login script? ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- Remember: once, everyone "Knew" the world was flat. --------------------------------------------------- From g.walton at coventry.ac.uk Wed Feb 12 19:36:16 2003 From: g.walton at coventry.ac.uk (Gary Walton) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 19:36:16 +0000 Subject: Incomplete drive mappings References: Message-ID: <3E4AA230.5050600@coventry.ac.uk> We had an issue where a client was set up to use IP only and thanks to someone playing with DHCP and SLP and a server being rebooted the SLP details were incorrect and the drive failed to map. Also if the users are not assigned rights to the volume or to any file on the volume then mapping fails. I am assuming you are getting map failure rather than just not appearing. If they are not appearing is there a policy causing the problem? Gary Walton Jeff Groetsema wrote: >We have a situation going on here where occasionally users will not receive all the drive mappings they are supposed to have. This usually seems to happen with mappings to two particular servers, both of which are NW5.1 and neither of which is taxed heavily. This happens with Win98, Win2K, and WinXP systems, each with the latest client for the platform. > >Has anyone else seen similar issues? > >Thanks, > > >Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services >University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law >jgroetsema at uop.edu > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > -- Gary Walton Principal Analyst Programmer Coventry University Priory Street Coventry CV1 5FB Tel +44 024 76838641 ---------------------------- From dtran at ssc.ucla.edu Wed Feb 12 19:45:04 2003 From: dtran at ssc.ucla.edu (Daniel Tran) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 11:45:04 -0800 Subject: no create printer option in imanger In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001c01c2d2cf$3d3c2410$49e56180@hp1> Joe, Would this TID help: TID10072638 Daniel - dtran at ssc.ucla.edu > -----Original Message----- > From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu > [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Joe Acquisto > Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 11:23 AM > To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu > Subject: no create printer option in imanger > > > Trying to create a new printer, via imanger, there is no > create printer option available. > > NW6, sp2, edir 862 sp3 > > ----------------------------------------- > Joe Acquisto > SUNY New Paltz > 845-257-3134 (V) > 845-257-6900 (F) > --------------------------------------------------- > Remember: once, everyone > "Knew" the world was flat. > --------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > From jonbrath at ix.netcom.com Wed Feb 12 16:53:57 2003 From: jonbrath at ix.netcom.com (jonbrath at ix.netcom.com) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 11:53:57 -0500 (EST) Subject: Missing NAL Applications Message-ID: <6855191.1045079642071.JavaMail.nobody@dewey.psp.pas.earthlink.net> unsubscribe -------Original Message------- From: Skip Hefel Sent: 02/12/03 02:20 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: Missing NAL Applications > > Check Nalwin32 file version, this or another file may be corrupted or with a bug. We ran into that about 1.5 years ago when applying a Zen service patch. S -----Original Message----- From: admin at iaa.gov.il [mailto:admin at iaa.gov.il] Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 9:09 AM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: RE: Missing NAL Applications :) In that case, I have no idea. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Hasenjager [mailto:phasenjager at fzacpa.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 4:54 PM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: RE: Missing NAL Applications My apologies, I should have mentioned that we are not running the Zen4 Agent on the workstations. >>> admin at iaa.gov.il 02/12/03 08:53AM >>> This is a known bug in the Zen4 Agent setup that was released initially with Zen4. There is a new Beta MSI install that fixes this issue. So far we are installing the Beta (not yet officially released) and it has solved this issue for us. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Hasenjager [mailto:phasenjager at fzacpa.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 5:27 PM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: Missing NAL Applications NW6 / Zen4 on Server W2K SP3 / 4.83 SP1 Client I have 2 users that keep losing the applications associated with their workstations. Any application associated with the user remains. Applications, workstations, and users are in separate OUs. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Patrick Hasenjager Technical Support Specialist Frankel, Zacharia, Arnold, Nissen, Stamp & Reinsch, LLC Main: (402) 496-9100 Desk: (402) 963-4340 Fax: (402) 496-1024 phasenjager at fzacpa.com *********** _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > From rpcarroll at juno.com Wed Feb 12 20:02:55 2003 From: rpcarroll at juno.com (Robert Carroll) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 15:02:55 -0500 Subject: Incomplete drive mappings References: Message-ID: <02d201c2d2d1$bc247960$0a01017b@E2K2Q6> Jeff, I've seen this on new workstations loaded with drives. Are you using F: as the first network drive letter? Maybe the workstation is already assigning that letter to a local drive. That might also push drive letters around. With XP, the fix is to use the drive manager to set the local drive letters so as not to interfere with the mapping sequence. Best wishes, Bob Carroll, CPA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Groetsema" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 1:29 PM Subject: Incomplete drive mappings We have a situation going on here where occasionally users will not receive all the drive mappings they are supposed to have. This usually seems to happen with mappings to two particular servers, both of which are NW5.1 and neither of which is taxed heavily. This happens with Win98, Win2K, and WinXP systems, each with the latest client for the platform. Has anyone else seen similar issues? Thanks, Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From jgroetsema at uop.edu Wed Feb 12 20:47:14 2003 From: jgroetsema at uop.edu (Jeff Groetsema) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:47:14 -0800 Subject: Incomplete drive mappings Message-ID: Unfortunatly, I have not seen the problem. I have only been feed anecdotal information. No one has reported login script errors and the login scripts are set to not close on error. Jeff >>> ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu 02/12/03 11:28AM >>> >We have a situation going on here where occasionally users will not >receive all the drive mappings they are supposed to have. This usually >seems to happen with mappings to two particular servers, both of which >are NW5.1 and neither of which is taxed heavily. This happens with >Win98, Win2K, and WinXP systems, each with the latest client for the >platform. > >Has anyone else seen similar issues? > >Thanks, > > >Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services >University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law Any associated error messages in the login script? ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- Remember: once, everyone "Knew" the world was flat. --------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From jgroetsema at uop.edu Wed Feb 12 20:51:20 2003 From: jgroetsema at uop.edu (Jeff Groetsema) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:51:20 -0800 Subject: Incomplete drive mappings Message-ID: Gary, I initially suspected DHCP and SLP, but this has not changed (I take care of these settings) and others in the same area (context, VLAN) do not have problems. Also, this is not consistant in that the same person will login again (or maybe after several login attempts) and get the drive mapping. If they do not get the drive mapping, they can still browse the the directory and see the files there. Jeff >>> g.walton at coventry.ac.uk 02/12/03 11:36AM >>> We had an issue where a client was set up to use IP only and thanks to someone playing with DHCP and SLP and a server being rebooted the SLP details were incorrect and the drive failed to map. Also if the users are not assigned rights to the volume or to any file on the volume then mapping fails. I am assuming you are getting map failure rather than just not appearing. If they are not appearing is there a policy causing the problem? Gary Walton Jeff Groetsema wrote: >We have a situation going on here where occasionally users will not receive all the drive mappings they are supposed to have. This usually seems to happen with mappings to two particular servers, both of which are NW5.1 and neither of which is taxed heavily. This happens with Win98, Win2K, and WinXP systems, each with the latest client for the platform. > >Has anyone else seen similar issues? > >Thanks, > > >Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services >University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law >jgroetsema at uop.edu > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > -- Gary Walton Principal Analyst Programmer Coventry University Priory Street Coventry CV1 5FB Tel +44 024 76838641 ---------------------------- _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From John at coastal.edu Wed Feb 12 21:06:59 2003 From: John at coastal.edu (John Hanna) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 16:06:59 -0500 Subject: Incomplete drive mappings In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <00a201c2d2da$b1e34400$041478c7@ccu03722> I have started seeing this happen the very week after the SQL Slammer hit. We had to reboot our Backbone switch (Cisco6509) which routes IP and IPX. After the reboot, we started seeing this same sort of behavior. It took me several days to remedy and I am still unsure as to what exactly remedied it. I started by rebooting the servers, the reset the switches in the affected areas, then I removed IPX routing from our Cisco6509 and adding it back. Things started getting back to normal. Then last week I upgraded the image on the Cisco6509 which required a reset and rebooted my main server last night to release a hung service and today I am getting calls again with the same problem. This is a strange problem and like you say is hard to run down, because the next reboot of the workstation and it may work, but that doesn't mean its really fixed. -----Original Message----- From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Jeff Groetsema Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 3:51 PM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: Re: Incomplete drive mappings Gary, I initially suspected DHCP and SLP, but this has not changed (I take care of these settings) and others in the same area (context, VLAN) do not have problems. Also, this is not consistant in that the same person will login again (or maybe after several login attempts) and get the drive mapping. If they do not get the drive mapping, they can still browse the the directory and see the files there. Jeff >>> g.walton at coventry.ac.uk 02/12/03 11:36AM >>> We had an issue where a client was set up to use IP only and thanks to someone playing with DHCP and SLP and a server being rebooted the SLP details were incorrect and the drive failed to map. Also if the users are not assigned rights to the volume or to any file on the volume then mapping fails. I am assuming you are getting map failure rather than just not appearing. If they are not appearing is there a policy causing the problem? Gary Walton Jeff Groetsema wrote: >We have a situation going on here where occasionally users will not >receive all the drive mappings they are supposed to have. This usually >seems to happen with mappings to two particular servers, both of which >are NW5.1 and neither of which is taxed heavily. This happens with >Win98, Win2K, and WinXP systems, each with the latest client for the >platform. > >Has anyone else seen similar issues? > >Thanks, > > >Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services >University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > -- Gary Walton Principal Analyst Programmer Coventry University Priory Street Coventry CV1 5FB Tel +44 024 76838641 ---------------------------- _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From jgroetsema at uop.edu Wed Feb 12 21:22:50 2003 From: jgroetsema at uop.edu (Jeff Groetsema) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:22:50 -0800 Subject: Incomplete drive mappings Message-ID: John, Very interesting. We too are using Cisco switches. Our Backbone switch is a Cisco 4000 (wich I believe has the same IOS as the 6500) and most of our distribution switches are Cisco. I'll keep an eye on this perspective as well. Thanks, Jeff >>> John at coastal.edu 02/12/03 01:06PM >>> I have started seeing this happen the very week after the SQL Slammer hit. We had to reboot our Backbone switch (Cisco6509) which routes IP and IPX. After the reboot, we started seeing this same sort of behavior. It took me several days to remedy and I am still unsure as to what exactly remedied it. I started by rebooting the servers, the reset the switches in the affected areas, then I removed IPX routing from our Cisco6509 and adding it back. Things started getting back to normal. Then last week I upgraded the image on the Cisco6509 which required a reset and rebooted my main server last night to release a hung service and today I am getting calls again with the same problem. This is a strange problem and like you say is hard to run down, because the next reboot of the workstation and it may work, but that doesn't mean its really fixed. -----Original Message----- From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Jeff Groetsema Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 3:51 PM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: Re: Incomplete drive mappings Gary, I initially suspected DHCP and SLP, but this has not changed (I take care of these settings) and others in the same area (context, VLAN) do not have problems. Also, this is not consistant in that the same person will login again (or maybe after several login attempts) and get the drive mapping. If they do not get the drive mapping, they can still browse the the directory and see the files there. Jeff >>> g.walton at coventry.ac.uk 02/12/03 11:36AM >>> We had an issue where a client was set up to use IP only and thanks to someone playing with DHCP and SLP and a server being rebooted the SLP details were incorrect and the drive failed to map. Also if the users are not assigned rights to the volume or to any file on the volume then mapping fails. I am assuming you are getting map failure rather than just not appearing. If they are not appearing is there a policy causing the problem? Gary Walton Jeff Groetsema wrote: >We have a situation going on here where occasionally users will not >receive all the drive mappings they are supposed to have. This usually >seems to happen with mappings to two particular servers, both of which >are NW5.1 and neither of which is taxed heavily. This happens with >Win98, Win2K, and WinXP systems, each with the latest client for the >platform. > >Has anyone else seen similar issues? > >Thanks, > > >Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services >University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > -- Gary Walton Principal Analyst Programmer Coventry University Priory Street Coventry CV1 5FB Tel +44 024 76838641 ---------------------------- _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From zzz at mctc.mnscu.edu Wed Feb 12 23:47:06 2003 From: zzz at mctc.mnscu.edu (zzz) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 17:47:06 -0600 Subject: Print accounting Message-ID: We have bench tested PCOUNTER for student use and it seems to work in our test environment. I think the eval is good for 60 days, so give it a try. However, the production environment is much more complicated, and we have not moved to that stage yet. In our case, we are considering giving all students xxx pages per semester when their accounts are created. When they run out they will need to go to the business office and purchase more pages in blocks. The question we are working on is how to automate this process of updating the account, which I consider to be more of a backend programming issue. But technically speaking, once a user runs out of pages, another block of xxx could be added to their account. Our current goal is to simply reduce paper waste. Thanks Dana >>> Nathan.Hensal at highland.edu 02/12/03 10:48AM >>> We are also looking for a way to be able to monitor network printing. We too are curious what others are using for software and or hardware solutions to monitor and charge per page for student printing. Perhaps this product would be a solution ? "PCOUNTER" http://www.andtechnologies.com/pcounter.html From what I understand on their web site, this software solution presents the user a pop up window when they submit a print job showing them their dollar balance on their own printing account and shows them how much the submitted print job will deduct from their current balance. It also keeps logs on user printing statistics. I am wondering if others have looked at PCOUNTER and had success with the product. Thanks!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nathan Hensal -- Network Administrator Highland Community College - Freeport, IL USA Voice: 815.599.3599 Fax: 815.599.3632 Nathan.Hensal at highland.edu www.highland.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> John at coastal.edu 02/12/03 10:32AM >>> Our lab coordinator is looking for an electronic way to keep track of printing per user. The labs on campus charge back the students a small fee per page. Well, so many labs and wired class rooms have popped up around campus that the students quickly find places where they can get around the charge and abuse the paper and toner/ink supply. Does any one know of a way to keep quotas, accounting information regarding printing on the network per printer and or user? John Hanna Network Services Manager Coastal Carolina University PO Box 261954 Conway, SC 29528-6054 Phone:(843)349-2150 Fax: (843)349-2990 Email: John at coastal.edu From zzz at mctc.mnscu.edu Wed Feb 12 23:59:17 2003 From: zzz at mctc.mnscu.edu (zzz) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 17:59:17 -0600 Subject: installing first nw6 in nw51 tree Message-ID: I agree with Joe D on this one. Spend your time getting NDS updated on all boxes to edir (or whatever it is called now ) and sort those problems out first. This took a bit of time and headaches here, but once things were stabilized, NW6 went in just fine. Thanks Dana >>> JRD at cc.usu.edu 02/12/03 08:29AM >>> > >Does the information in tid 10066345 still hold true for installing the >first nw6 server in a nw51 tree? I am about to do this install and want >to be prepared for errors that I may get. The tid says to modify a .sch >file on the original nw6 cd to change a class attribute and then regen >the nw6 cd with the fixed file. Just wanted to know if anyone had found >out if this worked ok or had tried it. I did get the error -699 when i >tried to import the schema from the nw6 test tree into my n51 tree. > >Thanks, > > >Jonathan Isett >Network Administrator >Salisbury University >jdisett at salisbury.edu ------------- It is not the version of NW which counts. It is the version of NDS which is vital to this exercise. Upgrade NW 5.1 to the same version as that on NW 6, then add NW 6. No problems, no tinkering with .sch files. Joe D. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From jfast at development.tas.gov.au Thu Feb 13 03:09:43 2003 From: jfast at development.tas.gov.au (jfast at development.tas.gov.au) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:09:43 +1100 Subject: W2K Server Problem Message-ID: Hi everyone, I am having difficulty getting more servers into Active Directory, so I can then add them to eDirectory. The following is what I have done up to this point, if anyone has any information or advice I would appreciate it. These are the steps I followed to get an additional server into the AD Forest in order to install eDir 8.7, DirXML, Passwd Sync, & Zen 4. Server HW: Compaq EVO Desktop Mini-Tower 20 GB HD Intel 10/100 NIC CD-ROM Server SW: Windows 2000 SP3 HW Drivers(NIC, Video, etc) Configuration: 20GB drive is split in 3: 8GB System(C:), 6GB Apps(D:), 5GB Data(E:) Domain: internal testing domain, not being serviced by Unix DNS, only Win2000 The reference I used to build it is the Zenworks Cool Solutions Lab Guide done by Reverend Ted, mainly using Part 1. Differences: Not on private address space, no DHCP server(already one on the network), SP3, Edir 8.7, Zen 4, DirXML 1.1a, Password Sync for Win 1.0, no Windows Update. I have built one server with all the configurations necessary to run and is currently in a test environment within IT Services, emulating a satellite office. The next step was to build 2 more servers in order to have more than the 1 server running eDirectory, Zen 4, DirXML & Password Sync and place them in other satellite offices within the Tree. I therefore used the Reverend Ted guide, as mentioned, as a reference to build the 2nd and 3rd servers, although there is already 2 Netware 6 servers which will be located at the central office. Which would give me 5 servers running eDirectory & Zen 4 in the current test Tree. Steps: I) Build OS with partitions as described II) Add the server to the Domain as a DC & Restart III) Using the dcpromo or Configure your server wizard add to current ADForest IV) Database, Log & Sysvol locations all changed to D: drive V) Summary of options, then next to 'configuring active directory' VI) Error screen(New Credentials) within seconds saying: "The operations failed because: Failed to modify the necessary properties for the machine account W2KSERVER$ Access is Denied" VII) Requesting new credentials, retype password, same problem, try Netbios Domain name instead of DNS name, same result I have tried the following Microsoft Tech Support documents to solve it with no luck either: 250874 & 232070 The following steps I found on the Microsoft Support Forums(microsoft.public.win2000.active_directory) dated 3 Nov 2002: > Steps for fixing the problem when DCPROMO does not find the domain. 1. Verify that the existing domain controller is pointing to a Windows 2000 DNS server. Do not point it to any external ISP DNS servers. (you can use forwardwers for external resolution see http://support.microsoft.com/search/preview.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q300202) 2. Open the DNS MMC, double click forwarders so that you can see the zone for your domain. 3. Right click on this zone and select properties. Verify that your zone is set to allow dynamic updates, if not change it so that it does. 4. Double click your zone to expand it. You should have 4 subfolders (_MSDCS, _SITES, _TCP, _UDP) and a few records. 5. If the zones do not exist you should open a command prompt. 6. Type IPconfig /registerdns and enter 7. Type net stop netlogon 8. Type net start netlogon (restarting netlogon wil force the service to register its SRV records with the DNS zone thus creating the missing subfolders. The records that will be registered are in winnt\system32\config\netlogon.dns). 9. After restarting netlogon go back into your DNS zone and verify that you have the subfolders that I mentioned before. 10. If the folders are not there you may want to try running netdiag.exe /fix from the support tools. Or try restarting netlogon again. 11. On the DC that you are trying to promote verify that it is pointing to the Windows 2000 DNS server that we have been working on for DNS. 12. Go to a command prompt and type nslookup 1stdcname.domainname.com to verify that you can get a reply. 13. type nslookup and hit enter 14. type set type=srv and enter 15. type _ldap._tcp.domainname.com and hit enter 16. you should see something like this if it works. _ldap._tcp.domain.com SRV service location: priority = 0 weight = 100 port = 389 svr hostname = computername.domainname.com computername.domainname.com internet address = 192.168.0.1 computername.domainname.com internet address = 25.65.3.81 17. Try running dcpromo, it should work. for info about the domain controller location process see http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q247811 -- Tim Hines, MCSA, MCSE (2000 & NT4) MVP - Active Directory > Using the method above did not help either, came out with the same error message. The only thing that I did find though was that if I didn't run the netdiag /fix the DNS wouldn't be setup correctly even on building a new forest as below. I also have tried rebuilding the server but the same result. I thought it may be something to do with LDAP and using the free Softerra LDAP browser I connected to the server on the default 389 port and using the administrator credentials pulled all the AD information. When I used port 388 I got eDirectory information as I expected. I then built two 2000 servers making a new AD Forest on one and following the exact same procedure, just no Edirectory, DirXML, Passwd Sync or Zen 4 and the procedure worked flawlessly I had two servers in the forest with no difficulty. No errors or problems. I find this amazing to think that I have to create the AD forest beforehand and never change it, such as adding another server and I would rather not have multiple AD Forests. Any and all advice/assistance would be appreciated, Thanks, John From gcarlson at myrealbox.com Thu Feb 13 12:09:23 2003 From: gcarlson at myrealbox.com (George Carlson) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 07:09:23 -0500 Subject: W2K Server Problem Message-ID: <1045138163.79e56400gcarlson@myrealbox.com> I take it from your Narrative that your primary DNS is the AD DNS. Do you have a secondary DNS on this server? if so, delete it, restart and try again. It may be timing out on the primary (even if it is proverbially right next door), and going to the secondary, which knows nothing of your AD Domain. Microsoft does not tell you not to have a secondary, but I already have been caught once by that. -----Original Message----- From: jfast at development.tas.gov.au To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:09:43 +1100 Subject: W2K Server Problem Hi everyone, I am having difficulty getting more servers into Active Directory, so I can then add them to eDirectory. The following is what I have done up to this point, if anyone has any information or advice I would appreciate it. These are the steps I followed to get an additional server into the AD Forest in order to install eDir 8.7, DirXML, Passwd Sync, & Zen 4. Server HW: Compaq EVO Desktop Mini-Tower 20 GB HD Intel 10/100 NIC CD-ROM Server SW: Windows 2000 SP3 HW Drivers(NIC, Video, etc) Configuration: 20GB drive is split in 3: 8GB System(C:), 6GB Apps(D:), 5GB Data(E:) Domain: internal testing domain, not being serviced by Unix DNS, only Win2000 The reference I used to build it is the Zenworks Cool Solutions Lab Guide done by Reverend Ted, mainly using Part 1. Differences: Not on private address space, no DHCP server(already one on the network), SP3, Edir 8.7, Zen 4, DirXML 1.1a, Password Sync for Win 1.0, no Windows Update. I have built one server with all the configurations necessary to run and is currently in a test environment within IT Services, emulating a satellite office. The next step was to build 2 more servers in order to have more than the 1 server running eDirectory, Zen 4, DirXML & Password Sync and place them in other satellite offices within the Tree. I therefore used the Reverend Ted guide, as mentioned, as a reference to build the 2nd and 3rd servers, although there is already 2 Netware 6 servers which will be located at the central office. Which would give me 5 servers running eDirectory & Zen 4 in the current test Tree. Steps: I) Build OS with partitions as described II) Add the server to the Domain as a DC & Restart III) Using the dcpromo or Configure your server wizard add to current ADForest IV) Database, Log & Sysvol locations all changed to D: drive V) Summary of options, then next to 'configuring active directory' VI) Error screen(New Credentials) within seconds saying: "The operations failed because: Failed to modify the necessary properties for the machine account W2KSERVER$ Access is Denied" VII) Requesting new credentials, retype password, same problem, try Netbios Domain name instead of DNS name, same result I have tried the following Microsoft Tech Support documents to solve it with no luck either: 250874 & 232070 The following steps I found on the Microsoft Support Forums(microsoft.public.win2000.active_directory) dated 3 Nov 2002: > Steps for fixing the problem when DCPROMO does not find the domain. 1. Verify that the existing domain controller is pointing to a Windows 2000 DNS server. Do not point it to any external ISP DNS servers. (you can use forwardwers for external resolution see http://support.microsoft.com/search/preview.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q300202) 2. Open the DNS MMC, double click forwarders so that you can see the zone for your domain. 3. Right click on this zone and select properties. Verify that your zone is set to allow dynamic updates, if not change it so that it does. 4. Double click your zone to expand it. You should have 4 subfolders (_MSDCS, _SITES, _TCP, _UDP) and a few records. 5. If the zones do not exist you should open a command prompt. 6. Type IPconfig /registerdns and enter 7. Type net stop netlogon 8. Type net start netlogon (restarting netlogon wil force the service to register its SRV records with the DNS zone thus creating the missing subfolders. The records that will be registered are in winnt\system32\config\netlogon.dns). 9. After restarting netlogon go back into your DNS zone and verify that you have the subfolders that I mentioned before. 10. If the folders are not there you may want to try running netdiag.exe /fix from the support tools. Or try restarting netlogon again. 11. On the DC that you are trying to promote verify that it is pointing to the Windows 2000 DNS server that we have been working on for DNS. 12. Go to a command prompt and type nslookup 1stdcname.domainname.com to verify that you can get a reply. 13. type nslookup and hit enter 14. type set type=srv and enter 15. type _ldap._tcp.domainname.com and hit enter 16. you should see something like this if it works. _ldap._tcp.domain.com SRV service location: priority = 0 weight = 100 port = 389 svr hostname = computername.domainname.com computername.domainname.com internet address = 192.168.0.1 computername.domainname.com internet address = 25.65.3.81 17. Try running dcpromo, it should work. for info about the domain controller location process see http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q247811 -- Tim Hines, MCSA, MCSE (2000 & NT4) MVP - Active Directory > Using the method above did not help either, came out with the same error message. The only thing that I did find though was that if I didn't run the netdiag /fix the DNS wouldn't be setup correctly even on building a new forest as below. I also have tried rebuilding the server but the same result. I thought it may be something to do with LDAP and using the free Softerra LDAP browser I connected to the server on the default 389 port and using the administrator credentials pulled all the AD information. When I used port 388 I got eDirectory information as I expected. I then built two 2000 servers making a new AD Forest on one and following the exact same procedure, just no Edirectory, DirXML, Passwd Sync or Zen 4 and the procedure worked flawlessly I had two servers in the forest with no difficulty. No errors or problems. I find this amazing to think that I have to create the AD forest beforehand and never change it, such as adding another server and I would rather not have multiple AD Forests. Any and all advice/assistance would be appreciated, Thanks, John _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From RHeld at quasarintl.com Thu Feb 13 14:35:44 2003 From: RHeld at quasarintl.com (Rick Held) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 07:35:44 -0700 Subject: Annotated Autoexec.ncf? Message-ID: Group, It has dawned on me that one significant impediment to understanding my Netware 6.0.1 system is the mystery of the structure of my autoexec.ncf. Is anyone aware of an annotated autoexec.ncf, plain vanilla or in flavors, that is available for reference, preferably that addresses the latest refinements in startup timing and sequences? Thanks, Rick ----- Rick Held - Marketing Manager Quasar International, Inc. 2704 Yale Blvd. SE Albuquerque, NM 87106 Ph: (505) 247-9660 Fx: (505) 247-9666 "NDT you can trust" From ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu Thu Feb 13 14:47:35 2003 From: ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:47:35 -0500 Subject: iManager Message-ID: In Imanager, trying to create an IP address in a subnet When trying to enter the IP address, at each keystroke within the IP adrress field, get the following error : "[JavaScipt Application] Srini0" Nothing found in searches. ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- Remember: once, everyone "Knew" the world was flat. --------------------------------------------------- From rgrein at nwlink.com Thu Feb 13 15:21:10 2003 From: rgrein at nwlink.com (Randy Grein) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 07:21:10 -0800 Subject: Annotated Autoexec.ncf? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Novell has done a pretty good job of annotating it when initially installed, but I can see where that might be enough to learn the system from the ground up. That is complicated by the lack of annotation by subsequent admins while editing. This would be a good project that won't take more than an afternoon - I'll have to consider it, if nobody has one laying around. On Thursday, February 13, 2003, at 06:35 AM, Rick Held wrote: > Group, > > It has dawned on me that one significant impediment to understanding my > Netware 6.0.1 system is the mystery of the structure of my > autoexec.ncf. > > Is anyone aware of an annotated autoexec.ncf, plain vanilla or in > flavors, that is available for reference, preferably that addresses the > latest refinements in startup timing and sequences? > > Thanks, > > Rick > > ----- > Rick Held - Marketing Manager > Quasar International, Inc. > 2704 Yale Blvd. SE Albuquerque, NM 87106 > Ph: (505) 247-9660 Fx: (505) 247-9666 > "NDT you can trust" > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA From mbarham at ci.williamsburg.va.us Thu Feb 13 15:39:12 2003 From: mbarham at ci.williamsburg.va.us (Mark BARHAM) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:39:12 -0500 Subject: IIS LDAP to eDirectory Message-ID: Ive got an app that Im about to deploy on my Intranet that using ASP to query a SQL database and return information such as HR, payroll, etc. Id like IIS to use LDAP authentication to my eDirectory. Anyone doing anything like this? From Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com Thu Feb 13 16:01:45 2003 From: Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com (Peter Van Lone) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:01:45 -0600 Subject: CRN "early look" at NW6.5 Message-ID: Check out the link below -- Sounds great, I can't wait to get a glimpse of it myself. I am REALLY exicited about: "Moreover, the integration of Novell's dirXML connectors enable built-in synchronization of Novell's eDirectory with Microsoft's Active Directory and NT directory, executives said. This will allow for single sign-on capabilities for all users, even if a corporation has two separate directories." The support for Iscsi and "inexpensive" SAN/clustering could be good as well..... http://crn.channelsupersearch.com/news/crn/39758.asp From lwillis at heritagestp.com Thu Feb 13 16:08:42 2003 From: lwillis at heritagestp.com (Loren Willis) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:08:42 -0600 Subject: Incomplete drive mappings Message-ID: Any chance that the server that you are trying to map to has run out of user licenses? Loren Willis, Chief Technology Officer & Controller Heritage Exhibits 651-578-3600 fax 651-578-3663 lwillis at heritagestp.com >>> jgroetsema at uop.edu 02/12/03 03:22PM >>> John, Very interesting. We too are using Cisco switches. Our Backbone switch is a Cisco 4000 (wich I believe has the same IOS as the 6500) and most of our distribution switches are Cisco. I'll keep an eye on this perspective as well. Thanks, Jeff >>> John at coastal.edu 02/12/03 01:06PM >>> I have started seeing this happen the very week after the SQL Slammer hit. We had to reboot our Backbone switch (Cisco6509) which routes IP and IPX. After the reboot, we started seeing this same sort of behavior. It took me several days to remedy and I am still unsure as to what exactly remedied it. I started by rebooting the servers, the reset the switches in the affected areas, then I removed IPX routing from our Cisco6509 and adding it back. Things started getting back to normal. Then last week I upgraded the image on the Cisco6509 which required a reset and rebooted my main server last night to release a hung service and today I am getting calls again with the same problem. This is a strange problem and like you say is hard to run down, because the next reboot of the workstation and it may work, but that doesn't mean its really fixed. -----Original Message----- From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Jeff Groetsema Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 3:51 PM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: Re: Incomplete drive mappings Gary, I initially suspected DHCP and SLP, but this has not changed (I take care of these settings) and others in the same area (context, VLAN) do not have problems. Also, this is not consistant in that the same person will login again (or maybe after several login attempts) and get the drive mapping. If they do not get the drive mapping, they can still browse the the directory and see the files there. Jeff >>> g.walton at coventry.ac.uk 02/12/03 11:36AM >>> We had an issue where a client was set up to use IP only and thanks to someone playing with DHCP and SLP and a server being rebooted the SLP details were incorrect and the drive failed to map. Also if the users are not assigned rights to the volume or to any file on the volume then mapping fails. I am assuming you are getting map failure rather than just not appearing. If they are not appearing is there a policy causing the problem? Gary Walton Jeff Groetsema wrote: >We have a situation going on here where occasionally users will not >receive all the drive mappings they are supposed to have. This usually >seems to happen with mappings to two particular servers, both of which >are NW5.1 and neither of which is taxed heavily. This happens with >Win98, Win2K, and WinXP systems, each with the latest client for the >platform. > >Has anyone else seen similar issues? > >Thanks, > > >Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services >University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > -- Gary Walton Principal Analyst Programmer Coventry University Priory Street Coventry CV1 5FB Tel +44 024 76838641 ---------------------------- _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From John at coastal.edu Thu Feb 13 16:15:31 2003 From: John at coastal.edu (John Hanna) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 11:15:31 -0500 Subject: Incomplete drive mappings In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <006f01c2d37b$2443daa0$041478c7@ccu03722> No. Currently have Unlimited installed here. I have noticed that the majority of this problem seems to be workstations running 4.83 SP1 clients and do not have the preferred server value set. By entering a preferred server variable, the problem seems to go away. -----Original Message----- From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Loren Willis Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 11:09 AM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: RE: Incomplete drive mappings Any chance that the server that you are trying to map to has run out of user licenses? From g.walton at coventry.ac.uk Thu Feb 13 17:00:50 2003 From: g.walton at coventry.ac.uk (Gary Walton) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 17:00:50 +0000 Subject: Incomplete drive mappings References: Message-ID: <3E4BCF42.7020807@coventry.ac.uk> Do you use policies? Do you run console one from one server or any? We have found that the policy files (adm files) are stored in consoleone\1.2\bin\zen\admfile and need to be the same on all servers (ZAKWINNT.ADM) specifically for drives. If there is any difference then setting the preferred server will fix the problem if the server has the correct version. We found this out because we modified the ZAK adm file to hide the c: drive but show the d: drive on a local copy of console one (faster) which worked but then we ran console one from the server and modified the policy. We lost all network drives but could see local drives:(. Copying the ZAKWINNT.ADM file to the server and resetting the policy fixed the problem. Gary Jeff Groetsema wrote: >We have a situation going on here where occasionally users will not receive all the drive mappings they are supposed to have. This usually seems to happen with mappings to two particular servers, both of which are NW5.1 and neither of which is taxed heavily. This happens with Win98, Win2K, and WinXP systems, each with the latest client for the platform. > >Has anyone else seen similar issues? > >Thanks, > > >Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services >University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law >jgroetsema at uop.edu > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > -- Gary Walton Principal Analyst Programmer Coventry University Priory Street Coventry CV1 5FB Tel +44 024 76838641 ---------------------------- From John at coastal.edu Thu Feb 13 19:28:30 2003 From: John at coastal.edu (John Hanna) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:28:30 -0500 Subject: UXP51 and SP5 Message-ID: <007b01c2d396$1a5728b0$041478c7@ccu03722> We are still using UXP51 on a NW5.1 SP4 server. I am a little leary of installing SP5 without knowing if this works or not. It installed without a hitch on nw5.1, but if memory recollects, was a little tricky after SP3 and SP4. Is anyone successfully using this with SP5. I am probably going to setup a test server and try it, but wanted to hear from you guys that may be running it in the real world (as in not test world). John Hanna Network Services Manager Coastal Carolina University PO Box 261954 Conway, SC 29528-6054 Phone:(843)349-2150 Fax: (843)349-2990 Email: John at coastal.edu From john_navarro at businessweek.com Thu Feb 13 19:34:54 2003 From: john_navarro at businessweek.com (John Navarro) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:34:54 -0500 Subject: TTCP Message-ID: <3E4BF35E.5090602@businessweek.com> Hi Folks, I'm looking for TTCP that runs on Netware 5.1 or 6. Anyone know of such a beast? I found one, but it runs only on NW 4.11 :( john From cmoore01 at myrealbox.com Thu Feb 13 19:57:49 2003 From: cmoore01 at myrealbox.com (Chris Moore) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:57:49 -0600 Subject: OnSite Admin Tool Message-ID: <1045166269.c4780c20cmoore01@myrealbox.com> I am in desperate need of the Tool called OnSite Admin, ASAP. IF any one has a copy of this tool, please contact me. I have tried to find it on the web, Novell and elsewhere, and so far no luck. I had it once, and seem to have "misplaced" it. Thanks... From cmoore01 at myrealbox.com Thu Feb 13 19:57:58 2003 From: cmoore01 at myrealbox.com (Chris Moore) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:57:58 -0600 Subject: OnSite Admin Tool Message-ID: <1045166278.c4780c20cmoore01@myrealbox.com> I am in desperate need of the Tool called OnSite Admin, ASAP. IF any one has a copy of this tool, please contact me. I have tried to find it on the web, Novell and elsewhere, and so far no luck. I had it once, and seem to have "misplaced" it. Thanks... From cmoore01 at myrealbox.com Thu Feb 13 19:58:03 2003 From: cmoore01 at myrealbox.com (Chris Moore) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:58:03 -0600 Subject: OnSite Admin Tool Message-ID: <1045166283.c4780c20cmoore01@myrealbox.com> I am in desperate need of the Tool called OnSite Admin, ASAP. IF any one has a copy of this tool, please contact me. I have tried to find it on the web, Novell and elsewhere, and so far no luck. I had it once, and seem to have "misplaced" it. Thanks... From mbarham at ci.williamsburg.va.us Thu Feb 13 21:11:35 2003 From: mbarham at ci.williamsburg.va.us (Mark BARHAM) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 16:11:35 -0500 Subject: Windows 2000 DHCP Server and SLP Message-ID: Does anyone have any idea what Microsoft calls SLP so that I can configure it as an option for my DHCP server? If I have to manually define it, what port does it use? Thanks From jfast at development.tas.gov.au Thu Feb 13 21:33:38 2003 From: jfast at development.tas.gov.au (jfast at development.tas.gov.au) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 08:33:38 +1100 Subject: W2K Server Problem In-Reply-To: <1045138163.79e56400gcarlson@myrealbox.com> Message-ID: Yes my primary DNS for this domain is AD DNS. The server I am attempting to add to AD has the DNS settings only with the AD DNS server, no secondary DNS is set and the 'register this connections dns' is turned on as the documentation states it should be, however somehow the Unix DNS is somehow knowing about it as it is attempting to be updated, now either AD DNS which does know about the Unix DNS is passing on the request or I have overlooked something on the AD DNS server PDC for the AD Domain. John "George Carlson" To Sent by: novell at netlab1.usu.edu novell-bounces at ne cc tlab1.usu.edu Subject Re: W2K Server Problem 13/02/2003 11:09 PM Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group I take it from your Narrative that your primary DNS is the AD DNS. Do you have a secondary DNS on this server? if so, delete it, restart and try again. It may be timing out on the primary (even if it is proverbially right next door), and going to the secondary, which knows nothing of your AD Domain. Microsoft does not tell you not to have a secondary, but I already have been caught once by that. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From MBARHAM at ci.williamsburg.va.us Thu Feb 13 21:32:10 2003 From: MBARHAM at ci.williamsburg.va.us (Mark BARHAM) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 16:32:10 -0500 Subject: W2K Server Problem (Out of the Office) Message-ID: I will be out of the office until Wednesday, February 19. Please contact Michelle Woolson at 220-6186 for further details. From gcarlson at myrealbox.com Thu Feb 13 21:42:17 2003 From: gcarlson at myrealbox.com (gcarlson at myrealbox.com) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 16:42:17 -0500 Subject: W2K Server Problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <018a01c2d3a8$c7f2cda0$0200a8c0@libra2> Remove the reference to the Unix box from your AD Server that you are pointing to. -----Original Message----- From: jfast at development.tas.gov.au [mailto:jfast at development.tas.gov.au] Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 4:34 PM To: Novell LAN Interest Group; gcarlson at myrealbox.com Subject: Re: W2K Server Problem Yes my primary DNS for this domain is AD DNS. The server I am attempting to add to AD has the DNS settings only with the AD DNS server, no secondary DNS is set and the 'register this connections dns' is turned on as the documentation states it should be, however somehow the Unix DNS is somehow knowing about it as it is attempting to be updated, now either AD DNS which does know about the Unix DNS is passing on the request or I have overlooked something on the AD DNS server PDC for the AD Domain. John "George Carlson" To Sent by: novell at netlab1.usu.edu novell-bounces at ne cc tlab1.usu.edu Subject Re: W2K Server Problem 13/02/2003 11:09 PM Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group I take it from your Narrative that your primary DNS is the AD DNS. Do you have a secondary DNS on this server? if so, delete it, restart and try again. It may be timing out on the primary (even if it is proverbially right next door), and going to the secondary, which knows nothing of your AD Domain. Microsoft does not tell you not to have a secondary, but I already have been caught once by that. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com Thu Feb 13 22:16:13 2003 From: Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com (Peter Van Lone) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 16:16:13 -0600 Subject: Zfd 4 upgrade zen 3.0 policies Message-ID: Anyone have experience with upgrading from zen 3.0 (or 3.2) to zen 4? We have a lab going to find gotchas, and when we did the upgrade our win98 policies stopped working. So far, we have been unable to identify neither the cause nor the fix ... TIA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From MBARHAM at ci.williamsburg.va.us Thu Feb 13 22:14:30 2003 From: MBARHAM at ci.williamsburg.va.us (Mark BARHAM) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 17:14:30 -0500 Subject: Zfd 4 upgrade zen 3.0 policies (Out of the Office) Message-ID: I will be out of the office until Wednesday, February 19. Please contact Michelle Woolson at 220-6186 for further details. From cmoore01 at myrealbox.com Thu Feb 13 22:17:03 2003 From: cmoore01 at myrealbox.com (Chris Moore) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 16:17:03 -0600 Subject: OnSite Admin Tool Message-ID: <1045174623.c80c89e0cmoore01@myrealbox.com> Thanks to everyone that sent me a copy. I deeply appreciate it. -----Original Message----- From: "Chris Moore" To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:57:49 -0600 Subject: OnSite Admin Tool I am in desperate need of the Tool called OnSite Admin, ASAP. IF any one has a copy of this tool, please contact me. I have tried to find it on the web, Novell and elsewhere, and so far no luck. I had it once, and seem to have "misplaced" it. Thanks... From MBARHAM at ci.williamsburg.va.us Thu Feb 13 22:17:35 2003 From: MBARHAM at ci.williamsburg.va.us (Mark BARHAM) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 17:17:35 -0500 Subject: OnSite Admin Tool (Out of the Office) Message-ID: I will be out of the office until Wednesday, February 19. Please contact Michelle Woolson at 220-6186 for further details. From jfast at development.tas.gov.au Fri Feb 14 00:18:56 2003 From: jfast at development.tas.gov.au (jfast at development.tas.gov.au) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 11:18:56 +1100 Subject: W2K Server Problem In-Reply-To: <018a01c2d3a8$c7f2cda0$0200a8c0@libra2> Message-ID: I have removed the reference to Unix, have also made a few modifications such as adding forwarders to Unix per MS documentation. Restarted both the AD Server(PDC) and the additional to be AD DC. Did not make a difference, however. Will continue to investigate and see if I can determine how to add another server to the forest. Thanks, John ----------------------------------------------------------- John Fast Team Leader - Support Services Department of Economic Development Hobart, Tasmania Australia (03)6233 5855 Sent by: "George To Carlson" , cc 14/02/2003 08:42 Subject AM RE: W2K Server Problem Please respond to Remove the reference to the Unix box from your AD Server that you are pointing to. -----Original Message----- From: jfast at development.tas.gov.au [mailto:jfast at development.tas.gov.au] Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 4:34 PM To: Novell LAN Interest Group; gcarlson at myrealbox.com Subject: Re: W2K Server Problem Yes my primary DNS for this domain is AD DNS. The server I am attempting to add to AD has the DNS settings only with the AD DNS server, no secondary DNS is set and the 'register this connections dns' is turned on as the documentation states it should be, however somehow the Unix DNS is somehow knowing about it as it is attempting to be updated, now either AD DNS which does know about the Unix DNS is passing on the request or I have overlooked something on the AD DNS server PDC for the AD Domain. John "George Carlson" To Sent by: novell at netlab1.usu.edu novell-bounces at ne cc tlab1.usu.edu Subject Re: W2K Server Problem 13/02/2003 11:09 PM Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group I take it from your Narrative that your primary DNS is the AD DNS. Do you have a secondary DNS on this server? if so, delete it, restart and try again. It may be timing out on the primary (even if it is proverbially right next door), and going to the secondary, which knows nothing of your AD Domain. Microsoft does not tell you not to have a secondary, but I already have been caught once by that. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From jon at novell.com Fri Feb 14 00:28:56 2003 From: jon at novell.com (Jon Christensen) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 17:28:56 -0700 Subject: Windows 2000 DHCP Server and SLP Message-ID: www.ithowto.com has instructions on how to configure MS DHCP for the SLP options. Jon >>> mbarham at ci.williamsburg.va.us 2/13/2003 2:11:35 PM >>> Does anyone have any idea what Microsoft calls SLP so that I can configure it as an option for my DHCP server? If I have to manually define it, what port does it use? Thanks _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From ITReading at aldridge-borden.com Fri Feb 14 01:24:38 2003 From: ITReading at aldridge-borden.com (ITReading ITReading) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 19:24:38 -0600 Subject: Off Topic - Independent ARCserve Listserv available? Message-ID: Hello all, I apologize for the off-topic email. Does anyone know of an independent (non-CA sponsored) forum to discus problems related to CA's ARCserve products (similar to this Novell forum or the GroupWise forum)? I'm looking for a place to voice my countless problems (and grievances) for ARCserve 7 & 9 for NetWare as well as ARCserve 2000 & 9 for Windows. I'm looking to collaborate with others who use ARCserve in the "real world" as opposed to CA's tech support. For instance, I'd love to find out if CA's tech support is, in fact, honest when it states that I'm the only person on earth who wants to "Backup open files on an NSS volume???" or "Copy files with long file names???" (just to name a few). Can you tell I'm a bit bitter at this point? Thanks in advance, guys! ----------------------------------------------------------- Charles Solomon Systems Support Aldridge, Borden, & Co., P.C. 74 Commerce St. Montgomery, AL 36104 Tel: (334) 834-6640 ext. 286 Fax:(334) 265-9605 www.aldridge-borden.com email: csolomon at aldridge-borden.com From carter at ipfw.edu Fri Feb 14 01:43:48 2003 From: carter at ipfw.edu (Jean-Paul Carter) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 20:43:48 -0500 Subject: Off Topic - Independent ARCserve Listserv available? Message-ID: As far as your open files on NSS, St. Bernards open file manager now does this (has for the past few months) John Carter Senior Network Systems Programmer ITServices Indiana Purdue University Ft. Wayne 2101 Coliseum Blvd Ft. Wayne IN 46805 260 481-5473 260 481-4152 fax carter at ipfw.edu >>> ITReading at aldridge-borden.com 02/13/03 08:24PM >>> Hello all, I apologize for the off-topic email. Does anyone know of an independent (non-CA sponsored) forum to discus problems related to CA's ARCserve products (similar to this Novell forum or the GroupWise forum)? I'm looking for a place to voice my countless problems (and grievances) for ARCserve 7 & 9 for NetWare as well as ARCserve 2000 & 9 for Windows. I'm looking to collaborate with others who use ARCserve in the "real world" as opposed to CA's tech support. For instance, I'd love to find out if CA's tech support is, in fact, honest when it states that I'm the only person on earth who wants to "Backup open files on an NSS volume???" or "Copy files with long file names???" (just to name a few). Can you tell I'm a bit bitter at this point? Thanks in advance, guys! ----------------------------------------------------------- Charles Solomon Systems Support Aldridge, Borden, & Co., P.C. 74 Commerce St. Montgomery, AL 36104 Tel: (334) 834-6640 ext. 286 Fax:(334) 265-9605 www.aldridge-borden.com email: csolomon at aldridge-borden.com _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From rgrein at nwlink.com Fri Feb 14 03:38:47 2003 From: rgrein at nwlink.com (Randy Grein) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 19:38:47 -0800 Subject: SAN Recommendations In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wednesday, February 12, 2003, at 08:57 AM, Michael Balasko wrote: > My comments inline for readability. > >>> I suspect the 'senior guy' doesn't know as much as he thinks he does, >>> but then that's a common problem. > Possible, but I doubt it. > > 1. In a medium to large shop initial purchase is less than 20% of > storage cost - the rest is management, as in people time. > > What's medium to large in a number form? That is partially dependent on configuration and usage. I don't have the figures from CTR handy, but if you're filling more than 3 racks with servers you could benefit - say somewhere over 500 users would be what is considered a medium sized business. >> 2. Managability - you're a fool if you neglect instrumentation in a > l>arge shop. Keeping track of disk problems in a SAN environment is >> easier, not harder provided you build in instrumentation upfront, >> rather than hope you can add it on later. Yes, you need to provide >> redundancy, testing AND training for people - SAN technology, like any >> other is not a panacea. It IS a worthwhile tool when used in the right >> place, in the right way. > > No arguement here at all, but SAN is the buzzword of the year, and > everyone wants > one regardless if it makes sense or not. "You can virtualize storage > and add capacity > on the fly" sounds a lot like a lack of planning to me. But to each > his own. Actually, SAN was the buzzword of 5 years ago - and you're absolutely correct to be cautious. But the tail doesn't wag the dog - IT does NOT determine business needs, nor capacity. What seems like plenty of space now can get tight in 3 years. I've seen process change multiply storage needs by a factor of 10 in a single year. Who could have predicted that? >> 3. Anyone who has any business expressing an opinion on storage issues >> knows that the bus speed is not relevant for the vast majority of >> storage speed questions, especially when discussing tiny arrays of 8 >> drives. Nearly all servers are i/o bound on the disk platter due to >> the >> random-access nature of multi tasking systems. BTW, RAID 5 doesn't >> really begin to perform well until you get near 8 drives. The sweet >> spot seems to be around 16-30 drives, depending on the data set and >> access patterns. After that MTBF starts to go up for the aggregate >> array and reliability suffers. Most medium to large SAN systems will >> meld RAID level clusters above that level to maintain reliability and >> performance, while still providing flexibility. Oh, BTW - ultra 320 >> is >> 320 MegaBYTES/s, not Megabits/s. > > We use RAID 0+1 here for everything, so we don't get beat with the > Double write/Calculation penalty. > BTW, I know its megaBYTES, I'm not sure where you saw me say bits. > Here is my original line- You're right, you did say megabytes. But it still doesn't detract from the main point - that the bus speed is irrelevant at FC and above speeds when discussing arrays of less than 15 drives. The next generation of FC pushes barely past ultra SCSI 3, but I don't see much need for that kind of speed yet. RAID 0+1 is often underrated. It can become bulky in large arrays, but that's just a management issue. >> 4. Cost - FC drives are more expensive, but it's hardly a 'huge' >> premium. Last I checked (over a year ago) it was still twice the >> cost/megabyte, which is not insignificant - but hardly huge. > > Our pricing for 72GB 10K U3 SCSI is 466.00, the same drive FC is > 1380.00. So were sitting at nearly 3x the cost. I'll stand by my > original statement. I haven't checked in the past year, so I'll concede the point. That's as high or higher than last year, which is odd with the industry flat on it's face. However MANY SANs use hot swap SCSI drives - that's right, there's no real need to run FC inside the enclosure. It's not a bad idea, but not absolutely necessary. In fact, check out Apple's new entry - they use ATA drives in their storage array. 2.3 Terabytes for under $11,000. The connection is Fiber Channel, but I don't know how it would play in a real SAN - but there's no reason the concept wouldn't work. Xiotech, for another example uses SCSI drives... >> 5. As the relevant data will be long gone from the email server I > question this scenario - it's much more likely that your archives will > attached, if not actually seized. I have friends that went through a > legal discovery, and had to provide a separate server and restore > backups when requested. It was a lot of work, but no equipment was > seized. > > Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA > > > Like I said its all up to how bad they want you. Or how big the fruad > claim is. Agreed. But until I hear of specific cases I'll worry more about other management problems. Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA From MolM at cvxmck.edu.au Fri Feb 14 07:03:33 2003 From: MolM at cvxmck.edu.au (Michael Mollard) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 17:03:33 +1000 Subject: ZFD4 and force caching Message-ID: <3E4D2164.28201.14F590F@localhost> Hi all, I wonder if someone can clarify this issue for me? We have ZFD4 installed on Win2k clients (with 4.83sp1 NW clients). I have an App Object (Corel Draw 11) which is 300MB of files, reg entries. Rather than have students compete for bandwidth when it tries to 'roll out' from the server, I want to force cache the app locally (C:\NalCache) while they are happily working on other things, so when they do start it for the first time, the files are already local, and it can happen much quicker. But I have tried associating the app with the user object, and also with the workstation object, and setting 'force cache' to on for each of them. But nothing seems to happen. When I try and start the app as a user, the app is cached and installed at that time. Am I missing something? I don't want to 'pre-install' the app (since that would ask for a reboot that I don't want popping up in the middle of their other work), I just want to push-cache the app. Thanks for any thoughts. Michael Mollard - Network Administrator Clairvaux MacKillop College, Brisbane Qld Australia (Direct) +61 7 3347 4607 (Ph ) +61 7 3349 8977 (Fax) +61 7 3349 5677 From Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com Fri Feb 14 07:23:26 2003 From: Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com (Peter Van Lone) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 01:23:26 -0600 Subject: OK, now I'm confused ... Message-ID: I'm comfortable with confusion, but I also like to clear it up. Here's hoping someone on the list can help! The deal is this: I'm trying to figure out what needs to happen in order to use DirXML password Sync for windows, which comes free with ZFD4. The Zen flyer says that the product "includes everything you need to ensure that user passwords are synced between edir and AD." However, I have discovered this is not exactly the case. One needs to download and install DirXML, including the AD driver, first. Fine. Supposedly when you activate the 'DirXML pass syn for windows' product, you also will activate the DirXML engine and AD Driver. OK good. Now -- 'DirXML password Sync for win' documentation says that there are 2 components: Agents and filters. Agents install on any Win2k machine (even a workstation) that is continuously available and that has a NW client installed. Filters must be run on every AD Domain controller. The filters register with and communicate password events to the agents, and the agents then update edir with any password changes. Sounds like no NW client or edir needs to be installed on the servers -- right? BUT, since you have to install the full DirXML, the "supported edirectory platform" for the AD driver is only Windows 2000. Which then means you have to install Edir on the Win2k box, right? Gees! I thought one of the advantages of the DirXML approach to win2k sync was that it DID NOT require this. Was I wrong? THEN -- I am told (somewhere in some of the 1000 pages I've read lately....) that "A DirXML driver set object must exist on a server containing a MASTER replica". HUH???? So now, my win2k box that is just running some freaking app we need now all of a sudden has to become the freaking master replica server? And a master of what replica? Just the replica of the partition that is the DirXML driver set? Or of any partition with user objects that I want to sync passwords for? I guess I'll have to read another 1000 pages of docs to find the answer to that one ..... Man oh man ... maybe I'm dumb, but it should not be this freaking difficult to figure out how to install a password sync program. Or anyting, for that matter. Anyone able to offer insights here? What part of this do I have right, and where have I "missed the boat"? I've already called the CRS 2/times on other 'pre-qualifying' questions. It just gets deeper and deeper ....... Thanx for listening! peter From nora at ALSPHILADELPHIA.ORG Fri Feb 14 13:08:57 2003 From: nora at ALSPHILADELPHIA.ORG (Nora Isaac) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 08:08:57 -0500 Subject: Off Topic - Independent ARCserve Listserv available? Message-ID: I'd love to know about taht independent forum also. We just upgraded to Arcserve 9. I haven't had time to look at it much. We use a consultant to do our installs since I'm new here and don't have much of a Novell background. All I know is my backup went from 4 hours to 9 hours. >>> ITReading at aldridge-borden.com 02/13/03 08:24PM >>> Hello all, I apologize for the off-topic email. Does anyone know of an independent (non-CA sponsored) forum to discus problems related to CA's ARCserve products (similar to this Novell forum or the GroupWise forum)? I'm looking for a place to voice my countless problems (and grievances) for ARCserve 7 & 9 for NetWare as well as ARCserve 2000 & 9 for Windows. I'm looking to collaborate with others who use ARCserve in the "real world" as opposed to CA's tech support. For instance, I'd love to find out if CA's tech support is, in fact, honest when it states that I'm the only person on earth who wants to "Backup open files on an NSS volume???" or "Copy files with long file names???" (just to name a few). Can you tell I'm a bit bitter at this point? Thanks in advance, guys! ----------------------------------------------------------- Charles Solomon Systems Support Aldridge, Borden, & Co., P.C. 74 Commerce St. Montgomery, AL 36104 Tel: (334) 834-6640 ext. 286 Fax:(334) 265-9605 www.aldridge-borden.com email: csolomon at aldridge-borden.com _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john.barro at shaw.ca Fri Feb 14 13:34:36 2003 From: john.barro at shaw.ca (john.barro at shaw.ca) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 08:34:36 -0500 Subject: Need Ammunition to fight Organization Directory Management Message-ID: <151ecb156b8b.156b8b151ecb@shaw.ca> Hi Everyone, I need some help. Our organization is questioning using Novell for Directory Services - they are talking about MS Active Directory. I need some ammo from the list as to why we should stay with Novell. We are currently a 5.1 shop with NT/2000 servers as well (Using NAM for directory synchronization). We have 8 sites spread over a 300 mile radius. We are a health care institution with 2000+ users. We have a mix of UNIX, Linux, NT, W2K. We also use GroupWise exclusively as our e-mail system. We are looking into NetWare 6.0 with web portals, SSO, secure log on, etc. Any information would be most welcome as to why we should stay with Novell !!! TIA, John From jlindblom at mico.com Fri Feb 14 13:41:31 2003 From: jlindblom at mico.com (jlindblom at mico.com) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 07:41:31 -0600 Subject: OT:Re: no create printer option in imanger Message-ID: Is there any reason you can't use NWADM32 to manage NDPS stuff? I'm just now working on implementing NDPS and I found it easier to just use NWADM32 to create and manage the objects. John Lindblom Network Administrator MICO, Inc. North Mankato, MN "Joe Acquisto" tz.edu> cc: Sent by: Subject: no create printer option in imanger novell-bounces at netla b1.usu.edu 02/12/2003 01:22 PM Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group Trying to create a new printer, via imanger, there is no create printer option available. NW6, sp2, edir 862 sp3 ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- Remember: once, everyone "Knew" the world was flat. --------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu Fri Feb 14 13:59:50 2003 From: ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 08:59:50 -0500 Subject: OT:Re: no create printer option in imanger Message-ID: Hmmm, no. Yes, it is "easier", meaning there is no learning angst involved. Of course, I do fall back to whatever works, rather than let "production" come to a halt. FWIW, In this case, the solution to the problem comes under the heading of "learning". And trying to do such by snatching a few minutes here and there. Turns out, I was not even in iManager, my browser/screen resolution conspired to put the iManager clicky spot "too far down" to be seen without scrolling down. And being (partly) distracted, I chose the edirectory thingie instead. I should add a second cranial processor. joea/ >>> jlindblom at mico.com 02/14/03 08:41AM >>> Is there any reason you can't use NWADM32 to manage NDPS stuff? I'm just now working on implementing NDPS and I found it easier to just use NWADM32 to create and manage the objects. John Lindblom Network Administrator MICO, Inc. North Mankato, MN "Joe Acquisto" tz.edu> cc: Sent by: Subject: no create printer option in imanger novell-bounces at netla b1.usu.edu 02/12/2003 01:22 PM Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group Trying to create a new printer, via imanger, there is no create printer option available. NW6, sp2, edir 862 sp3 ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- Remember: once, everyone "Knew" the world was flat. --------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu Fri Feb 14 14:02:18 2003 From: ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 09:02:18 -0500 Subject: Sophos EM Message-ID: Ok, so it's OT. But let me phrase it another way. Is anyone using Sophos EM at all? And what are the results on Netware CID's? joea/ >>> ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu 02/11/03 11:30AM >>> Anyone using, successfully, Sophos Enterprise Manager to update CID's on a Netware box? ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- Remember: once, everyone "Knew" the world was flat. --------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From bud at moldriteplastics.com Fri Feb 14 14:05:42 2003 From: bud at moldriteplastics.com (Bud Durland) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 09:05:42 -0500 Subject: Need Ammunition to fight Organization Directory Management In-Reply-To: <151ecb156b8b.156b8b151ecb@shaw.ca> References: <151ecb156b8b.156b8b151ecb@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <3E4CF7B6.30903@moldriteplastics.com> john.barro at shaw.ca wrote: >Hi Everyone, > >I need some help. Our organization is questioning using Novell for Directory Services - they are talking about MS Active Directory. I need some ammo from the list as to why we should stay with Novell. > It isn't directory specific, but start here: http://www.novell.com/info/collateral/docs/4621266.05/4621266.html -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Pinky, are you pondering whay I'm pondering?" "I think so, Brain, but really, me and Pippi Longstockings? I mean, what would the children look like?" ------------------------------------------------------------------- Bud Durland, CNE Mold-Rite Plastics Network Administrator http://www.mrpcap.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- From rgrein at nwlink.com Fri Feb 14 14:42:36 2003 From: rgrein at nwlink.com (Randy Grein) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 06:42:36 -0800 Subject: Need Ammunition to fight Organization Directory Management In-Reply-To: <151ecb156b8b.156b8b151ecb@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <8F3BD748-402A-11D7-80C2-0003937048F0@nwlink.com> Greater flexibility, lower hardware and software costs, platform independence, more add-on products out of beta, and stability. What more do they want? On Friday, February 14, 2003, at 05:34 AM, john.barro at shaw.ca wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I need some help. Our organization is questioning using Novell for > Directory Services - they are talking about MS Active Directory. I > need some ammo from the list as to why we should stay with Novell. > > We are currently a 5.1 shop with NT/2000 servers as well (Using NAM > for directory synchronization). We have 8 sites spread over a 300 > mile radius. We are a health care institution with 2000+ users. We > have a mix of UNIX, Linux, NT, W2K. We also use GroupWise exclusively > as our e-mail system. > > We are looking into NetWare 6.0 with web portals, SSO, secure log on, > etc. > > Any information would be most welcome as to why we should stay with > Novell !!! > > TIA, > John > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA From ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu Fri Feb 14 14:42:57 2003 From: ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 09:42:57 -0500 Subject: Need Ammunition to fight Organization Directory Management Message-ID: Try enlisting the help of Novell Sales/Marketing to augment your own efforts. ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- Remember: once, everyone "Knew" the world was flat. --------------------------------------------------- >>> john.barro at shaw.ca 02/14/03 08:34AM >>> Hi Everyone, I need some help. Our organization is questioning using Novell for Directory Services - they are talking about MS Active Directory. I need some ammo from the list as to why we should stay with Novell. We are currently a 5.1 shop with NT/2000 servers as well (Using NAM for directory synchronization). We have 8 sites spread over a 300 mile radius. We are a health care institution with 2000+ users. We have a mix of UNIX, Linux, NT, W2K. We also use GroupWise exclusively as our e-mail system. We are looking into NetWare 6.0 with web portals, SSO, secure log on, etc. Any information would be most welcome as to why we should stay with Novell !!! TIA, John _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com Fri Feb 14 14:48:28 2003 From: Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com (Peter Van Lone) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 08:48:28 -0600 Subject: Need Ammunition to fight Organization Directory Management Message-ID: Defintely agree with Joe -- get Novell in to work on this. Ask (firmly) that your rep organize info and a presentation. Also -- too much good stuff coming down the pike right now and the very near future to turn your back on it. Feature reich and secure and big performing, and there are healthcare/hippa specific solutions built for it. -----Original Message----- From: john.barro at shaw.ca [mailto:john.barro at shaw.ca] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 7:35 AM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: Need Ammunition to fight Organization Directory Management Hi Everyone, I need some help. Our organization is questioning using Novell for Directory Services - they are talking about MS Active Directory. I need some ammo from the list as to why we should stay with Novell. We are currently a 5.1 shop with NT/2000 servers as well (Using NAM for directory synchronization). We have 8 sites spread over a 300 mile radius. We are a health care institution with 2000+ users. We have a mix of UNIX, Linux, NT, W2K. We also use GroupWise exclusively as our e-mail system. We are looking into NetWare 6.0 with web portals, SSO, secure log on, etc. Any information would be most welcome as to why we should stay with Novell !!! TIA, John _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee Fri Feb 14 14:48:36 2003 From: toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee (Toomas Aas) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 16:48:36 +0200 Subject: Need Ammunition to fight Organization Directory Management In-Reply-To: <8F3BD748-402A-11D7-80C2-0003937048F0@nwlink.com> References: <151ecb156b8b.156b8b151ecb@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <200302141449.h1EEnAc02920@lv.raad.tartu.ee> > Greater flexibility, lower hardware and software costs, platform > independence, more add-on products out of beta, and stability. What > more do they want? I guess they want more than just his word for it. And Novell has actually provided (some of) the ammo requested: http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/nds/features/a_demo_w2k_nw6.html -- Toomas Aas | toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee | http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/ * To define recursion, we must first define recursion. From bud at moldriteplastics.com Fri Feb 14 14:54:11 2003 From: bud at moldriteplastics.com (Bud Durland) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 09:54:11 -0500 Subject: Sophos EM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3E4D0313.8010905@moldriteplastics.com> Joe Acquisto wrote: >Ok, so it's OT. But let me phrase it another way. > >Is anyone using Sophos EM at all? And what are the results on Netware >CID's? > I should have weighed in sooner -- I'm using EM here, but have not been able to convince it to update netware CID's. Fortunately, I have the luxury (???) of having a Win2K server installed for an in-house app, and I've put EM there. In that setup, it's worked quite well, with the exception that I can't use the SAVAdmin product, because I refuse to install file & printer shared for MS networks on every machine (I don't think this is a requirement if the Win2K network is using a domain). It's not too surprising that it can't update netware CID's, since it there's no mechanism for configuring user name, password, contest, etc. Maybe with a NW6 server that has windows native file access configured, but I don't know. Have you posed the question to Sophos? I'm going to do that now -- remind them that some folks still use NetWare ;) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Pinky, are you pondering whay I'm pondering?" "I think so, Brain, but really, me and Pippi Longstockings? I mean, what would the children look like?" ------------------------------------------------------------------- Bud Durland, CNE Mold-Rite Plastics Network Administrator http://www.mrpcap.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- From dtran at ssc.ucla.edu Fri Feb 14 16:00:47 2003 From: dtran at ssc.ucla.edu (Daniel Tran) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 08:00:47 -0800 Subject: Need Ammunition to fight Organization Directory Management In-Reply-To: <151ecb156b8b.156b8b151ecb@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <000b01c2d442$3d26d3c0$49e56180@hp1> John, Go to this http://www.psnug.org/. There are some materials there. Mostly are marketting stuff but every bit helps. Daniel ps: personally NDS is superior to AD. Much easier to maintain and config. File & print is stable. Netware networking is simple (MS networking is a kludge). Maintenance and adminstrative overhead is cheaper with Netware. Hardware requirements to run a stable MS AD/network is more (more machines). > -----Original Message----- > From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu > [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of > john.barro at shaw.ca > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 5:35 AM > To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu > Subject: Need Ammunition to fight Organization Directory Management > > > Hi Everyone, > > I need some help. Our organization is questioning using > Novell for Directory Services - they are talking about MS > Active Directory. I need some ammo from the list as to why > we should stay with Novell. > > We are currently a 5.1 shop with NT/2000 servers as well > (Using NAM for directory synchronization). We have 8 sites > spread over a 300 mile radius. We are a health care > institution with 2000+ users. We have a mix of UNIX, Linux, > NT, W2K. We also use GroupWise exclusively as our e-mail system. > > We are looking into NetWare 6.0 with web portals, SSO, secure > log on, etc. > > Any information would be most welcome as to why we should > stay with Novell !!! > > TIA, > John > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > From danrembolt at myrealbox.com Fri Feb 14 16:11:14 2003 From: danrembolt at myrealbox.com (danrembolt at myrealbox.com) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 08:11:14 -0800 Subject: Need Ammunition to fight Organization Directory Management In-Reply-To: <151ecb156b8b.156b8b151ecb@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <3E4CA4A2.19484.2D6EE44@localhost> This is a partial list of things that are different in Win2k from Netware. Differences in the file systems 1. There is no 'Salvage' of deleted files in Win2k. Once they are deleted, they are gone for good. In Netware, deleted files are moved to the Salvage list until the server needs the disk space or the files are purged. After you have migrated your users over to Win2k you will only be able to restore files from the latest tape backup, not from the server disk volume. 2. In Win2k changing file rights on an entire volume or on a folder with a large number of subfolders and files can take a long time, and the cpu will be at 100% during this time. In Netware changes to file rights happens almost instantly. If you want to change file rights on Win2k you should probably not do it when the server is in active use. 3. In Win2k everyone has rights to everything by default. In Netware everyone has rights to nothing by default. You will have to be very careful to get the file rights assigned correctly. If you are not careful the users will wind up having rights to things that you didnt intend. 4. There is no way to give the group Everyone read-only rights to files or folders in Win2k. 5. If you create a share on a root folder in Win2k, users will always see all the subfolders of a root folder even if they have no rights to those folders. In Netware, you can map a drive to a volume and users will see only the folders for which they had rights. In some cases, just disclosing the fact that a folder exists or the name of the folder might be of a security concern, or violate a client contract. After you have created or changed file or folder rights, login as a user with the same rights as your end users to see what they will see. 6. NTFS volumes need to be defragmented regularly. Fragmentation can cost as much as 70% of the system performance. This will not only make the system slow for the users, but will severely impact backup operations. The volumes should be defragged at least once a week, preferably more often. Differences in the Directory 1. In Win2k user names must be unique across the tree. In Netware they only needed to be unique in the container. 2. In Netware, if you wanted to give everyone in a container rights to a folder or file, you could assign the container the rights and all the users in the container would inherit the rights. In Win2k, if you want to give everyone in a container rights to a folder or file, you must either create a group and put all the users in that group and give the group rights to the folder, or else give all the users individual rights to the file or folder. When you create a new user in a container in Win2k you have to make sure that they are assigned all the rights they need. The containers in Active Directory do not behave at all like the containers in NDS. 3. Changes made in A/D take a lot longer to propagate throughout the network than changes made to NDS. Exactly how long depends on the changes made, the A/D setup, and the bandwidth available. In Netware we usually allowed 2 or 3 minutes for changes to be applied to remote sites. In Win2k you should probably allow anywhere from 30 minutes to several hours. Whenever you change anything, even an object attribute, the whole Global Catalog has to be replicated. A/D does not transmit changes only, and there is no partitioning so every DC contains the whole directory. 4. In Win2k if you change a user's file rights, or make any other changes that affect that user, the changes do not get applied to the user until they logout and log back in. If you disable the users account, they can still have access as long as they stay logged in. In Netware if you made any changes or disabled the user, the changes took place immediately. 5. Setting login restrictions in the Domain Account for the user prevents them from logging in outside of their login hours, but it does not automatically log them off when the login time ends. In Netware you are automatically logged off at the end of your login time. 6. There is no way to stop any Domain Admin from accessing anything in Win2k. Domain Admins can always take ownership and access any resource, even a resource that they are barred from accessing. In Netware you can create objects with rights that are restricted to a user or set of users that can exclude everyone else including admins, and the admins can not access those resources. Differences in server administration and maintenance 1. There is no online equivalent of Netware DSRepair in Win2k. If you want to repair the Active Directory, you have to bring the server down and run NTDSUTIL from Dos. Then you have to consider whether to bring down all the other DC's or let the repaired one replicate. Of course, when the DC's are down no one can log in. There is no way to schedule an automatic, unattended repair of the directory in Win2k. 2. In Netware, the default install procedure produces a server with no inherent vulnerabilities. In Win2k, the default install procedure leaves the server wide open to many well known vulnerabilities. Connecting such a server to the network will almost certainly result in the server being infected with viruses or the server being hacked. -- Windows has problems. Novell has solutions. From ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu Fri Feb 14 16:10:21 2003 From: ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 11:10:21 -0500 Subject: Sophos EM Message-ID: >Joe Acquisto wrote: > >>. . . > >I should have weighed in sooner -- > >I'm using EM here, but have not been able to convince it to update >netware CID's. Just found (with Sophos Support's help) a way to make it update Netware based CID's. However, I don't like the solution very much. I'd be happy to communicate with you off list on this. > Fortunately, I have the luxury (???) of having a Win2K >server installed for an in-house app, and I've put EM there. In that >setup, it's worked quite well, with the exception that I can't use the >SAVAdmin product, because I refuse to install file & printer shared for >MS networks on every machine (I don't think this is a requirement if the >Win2K network is using a domain). > Yep, EM works with the MS MMC, so it has to be on an MS platform. You may be right about the domain part. I have found that SAVADMIN can be used, without the MS networking mess, if you populate the PC field with the IP address of the client PC's. I've also installed the savagent on the 9x pc's, in IP polling mode. This allows the PC's to check for updates, on their own, as does the NT/2K/XP, SAV client. I can't recall, off hand, if that also allows SAVAdmin to push out changes. > >It's not too surprising that it can't update netware CID's, since it >there's no mechanism for configuring user name, password, contest, etc. You could infer the solution from that. Un palate-able as it is. > Maybe with a NW6 server that has windows native file access >configured, >but I don't know. > I was gonna try that. But given what fixed it, it would be a waste of time, I think. > >Have you posed the question to Sophos? I'm going to do that now -- >remind them that some folks still use NetWare ;) > Yes, I first contacted them several days ago. Please do complain. I'll email you the solution and you can also express your displeasure. joea/ >-- >------------------------------------------------------------------- >"Pinky, are you pondering whay I'm pondering?" >"I think so, Brain, but really, me and Pippi Longstockings? >I mean, what would the children look like?" >------------------------------------------------------------------- >Bud Durland, CNE Mold-Rite Plastics >Network Administrator http://www.mrpcap.com >------------------------------------------------------------------- From ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu Fri Feb 14 16:19:04 2003 From: ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 11:19:04 -0500 Subject: Need Ammunition to fight Organization Directory Management Message-ID: >Greater flexibility, lower hardware and software costs, platform >independence, more add-on products out of beta, and stability. What >more do they want? > For it to say "Microsoft" on the box? joea/ From jlindblom at mico.com Fri Feb 14 16:30:47 2003 From: jlindblom at mico.com (jlindblom at mico.com) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 10:30:47 -0600 Subject: Need Ammunition to fight Organization Directory Management Message-ID: That's typical. How would a company feel if there customers thought that way (let's go with XYZ because it looks like everyone else is), they would be out of business. I would think the company would expect customers to buy from them based on the quality/features of the product they are selling so why don't they do the same thing when they are looking to buy a product. Do what I say not what I do mentality. John Lindblom Network Administrator MICO, Inc. North Mankato, MN "Joe Acquisto" tz.edu> cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: Need Ammunition to fight Organization Directory Management novell-bounces at netla b1.usu.edu 02/14/2003 10:19 AM Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group >Greater flexibility, lower hardware and software costs, platform >independence, more add-on products out of beta, and stability. What >more do they want? > For it to say "Microsoft" on the box? joea/ _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From cjf at calfrye.com Fri Feb 14 17:05:10 2003 From: cjf at calfrye.com (Cal Frye) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 12:05:10 -0500 Subject: Constant disk activity Message-ID: <3E4D21C6.9080405@calfrye.com> Anyone got a minute for this one? Wednesday we suffered an extended power outage. The server in my basement has three drives; C:, SYS:, and VOL1: (Single drives, no RAID). Vol1 contains old backup files from a Windows workstation (inactive, but many files and folders) and the Novonyx folder for my Netmail installation. Server is at NW6, SP2, Netmail 3.1. Native File access is enabled for AFP, CIFS, and NFS. The server was halted when the UPS ran out -- no PowerChute or other graceful shutdown was performed. But no obvious errors showed up in the restart. Since the power returned, my VOL1 drive is continuously chugging away. I know it's that disk, 'cause the SYS volume is a different manufacturer and the noise is unique. I can stop the noise only by downing the server. Unloading Netmail makes no difference, nor the other features I've tried. Apache is running off the SYS volume, and anything else I can think of peculiar to this installation. At one point I thought opening the file USHHD21.HVM in the root of VOL1 stopped the activity momentarily, so I stopped NISSERV, which owned that file. No luck there. VREPAIR shows no errors on the drive. Short of stepping through monitor looking for interesting file activity (on thousands of files!), what am I missing, here? -- --Cal Frye, Network Administrator, Oberlin College www.ouuf.org, www.kentuu.org, www.calfrye.com "640K ought to be enough for anybody" (Bill Gates, 1981) From tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk Fri Feb 14 17:13:50 2003 From: tim.clarke at manifest.co.uk (Tim Clarke) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 17:13:50 +0000 Subject: Constant disk activity In-Reply-To: <3E4D21C6.9080405@calfrye.com> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030214171319.00b14ba8@pop3> Diagnose if it's Netware or hardware by downing and leaving it at DOS? At 12:05 14/02/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Anyone got a minute for this one? >Wednesday we suffered an extended power outage. The server in my basement >has three drives; C:, SYS:, and VOL1: (Single drives, no RAID). Vol1 >contains old backup files from a Windows workstation (inactive, but many >files and folders) and the Novonyx folder for my Netmail installation. >Server is at NW6, SP2, Netmail 3.1. Native File access is enabled for AFP, >CIFS, and NFS. The server was halted when the UPS ran out -- no PowerChute >or other graceful shutdown was performed. But no obvious errors showed up >in the restart. > >Since the power returned, my VOL1 drive is continuously chugging away. I >know it's that disk, 'cause the SYS volume is a different manufacturer and >the noise is unique. I can stop the noise only by downing the server. >Unloading Netmail makes no difference, nor the other features I've tried. >Apache is running off the SYS volume, and anything else I can think of >peculiar to this installation. At one point I thought opening the file >USHHD21.HVM in the root of VOL1 stopped the activity momentarily, so I >stopped NISSERV, which owned that file. No luck there. VREPAIR shows no >errors on the drive. > >Short of stepping through monitor looking for interesting file activity >(on thousands of files!), what am I missing, here? >-- >--Cal Frye, Network Administrator, Oberlin College > www.ouuf.org, www.kentuu.org, www.calfrye.com > > "640K ought to be enough for anybody" (Bill Gates, 1981) Tim C From jgroetsema at uop.edu Fri Feb 14 17:27:13 2003 From: jgroetsema at uop.edu (Jeff Groetsema) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 09:27:13 -0800 Subject: Need Ammunition to fight Organization Directory Management Message-ID: Because Windows marketing is the best there is. As the saying goes "they could sell refrigerators to Eskimos". Most corporate bigwigs are wearing a lot of parkas these days. Jeff >>> jlindblom at mico.com 02/14/03 08:30AM >>> That's typical. How would a company feel if there customers thought that way (let's go with XYZ because it looks like everyone else is), they would be out of business. I would think the company would expect customers to buy from them based on the quality/features of the product they are selling so why don't they do the same thing when they are looking to buy a product. Do what I say not what I do mentality. John Lindblom Network Administrator MICO, Inc. North Mankato, MN "Joe Acquisto" tz.edu> cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: Need Ammunition to fight Organization Directory Management novell-bounces at netla b1.usu.edu 02/14/2003 10:19 AM Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group >Greater flexibility, lower hardware and software costs, platform >independence, more add-on products out of beta, and stability. What >more do they want? > For it to say "Microsoft" on the box? joea/ _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From paul_dauderis at wrsd.net Fri Feb 14 17:29:56 2003 From: paul_dauderis at wrsd.net (Paul Dauderis) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 12:29:56 -0500 Subject: Constant disk activity In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030214171319.00b14ba8@pop3> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030214171319.00b14ba8@pop3> Message-ID: I was thinking the same thing, but that should be accomplished by simply dismounting the Volume. then if that makes the noises and drive stop spinning you can start to knock out Netware possibilities, although unless specifically told to do so, almost ALL netware modules will run off of SYS. novell at netlab1.usu.edu writes: >Diagnose if it's Netware or hardware by downing and leaving it at DOS? > >At 12:05 14/02/2003 -0500, you wrote: >>Anyone got a minute for this one? >>Wednesday we suffered an extended power outage. The server in my >basement >>has three drives; C:, SYS:, and VOL1: (Single drives, no RAID). Vol1 >>contains old backup files from a Windows workstation (inactive, but many >>files and folders) and the Novonyx folder for my Netmail installation. >>Server is at NW6, SP2, Netmail 3.1. Native File access is enabled for >AFP, >>CIFS, and NFS. The server was halted when the UPS ran out -- no >PowerChute >>or other graceful shutdown was performed. But no obvious errors showed >up >>in the restart. >> >>Since the power returned, my VOL1 drive is continuously chugging away. I >>know it's that disk, 'cause the SYS volume is a different manufacturer >and >>the noise is unique. I can stop the noise only by downing the server. >>Unloading Netmail makes no difference, nor the other features I've >tried. >>Apache is running off the SYS volume, and anything else I can think of >>peculiar to this installation. At one point I thought opening the file >>USHHD21.HVM in the root of VOL1 stopped the activity momentarily, so I >>stopped NISSERV, which owned that file. No luck there. VREPAIR shows no >>errors on the drive. >> >>Short of stepping through monitor looking for interesting file activity >>(on thousands of files!), what am I missing, here? >>-- >>--Cal Frye, Network Administrator, Oberlin College >> www.ouuf.org, www.kentuu.org, www.calfrye.com >> >> "640K ought to be enough for anybody" (Bill Gates, 1981) > >Tim C > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From JRD at cc.usu.edu Fri Feb 14 16:40:53 2003 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 10:40:53 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Need Ammunition to fight Organization Directory Management Message-ID: <01KSFBG2XLKYAYLRLQ@cc.usu.edu> I hate to say this, but it might be a good idea to find out what your managment wants to accomplish, and then address those goals. Otherwise one ends up being yet another special interest advocate. Joe D. From mike.ellis at radiantnetworks.co.uk Fri Feb 14 17:42:59 2003 From: mike.ellis at radiantnetworks.co.uk (Mike Ellis) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 17:42:59 -0000 Subject: Need Ammunition to fight Organization Directory Management Message-ID: <5B1C78E27C7AFF4594B5CD5ABA5C98ECFFE23F@york> You might find that their 'goal' is to move to Microsoft. If that is the case then arguing for Novell is a waste of time! > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Doupnik [mailto:JRD at cc.usu.edu] > Sent: 14 February 2003 16:41 > To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu > Subject: Re: Need Ammunition to fight Organization Directory > Management > > > I hate to say this, but it might be a good idea to find out > what your managment wants to accomplish, and then address those goals. > Otherwise one ends up being yet another special interest advocate. > Joe D. > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubarsnafu69 at yahoo.com Fri Feb 14 17:50:03 2003 From: fubarsnafu69 at yahoo.com (Fred James) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 09:50:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: Constant disk activity In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030214175003.41799.qmail@web10705.mail.yahoo.com> Why did the power go out, lightning or something like that. Major overload, car accident take out pole. POwer outage can do weird things. I had one last summer that hit 1 UPS and every NIC in every Computer, 1 modem, 2 hubs, & cable modem. Is it a maxtor drive --- Paul Dauderis wrote: > I was thinking the same thing, but that should be accomplished by > simply > dismounting the Volume. > > then if that makes the noises and drive stop spinning you can start > to > knock out Netware possibilities, although unless specifically told to > do > so, almost ALL netware modules will run off of SYS. > > > > novell at netlab1.usu.edu writes: > >Diagnose if it's Netware or hardware by downing and leaving it at > DOS? > > > >At 12:05 14/02/2003 -0500, you wrote: > >>Anyone got a minute for this one? > >>Wednesday we suffered an extended power outage. The server in my > >basement > >>has three drives; C:, SYS:, and VOL1: (Single drives, no RAID). > Vol1 > >>contains old backup files from a Windows workstation (inactive, but > many > >>files and folders) and the Novonyx folder for my Netmail > installation. > >>Server is at NW6, SP2, Netmail 3.1. Native File access is enabled > for > >AFP, > >>CIFS, and NFS. The server was halted when the UPS ran out -- no > >PowerChute > >>or other graceful shutdown was performed. But no obvious errors > showed > >up > >>in the restart. > >> > >>Since the power returned, my VOL1 drive is continuously chugging > away. I > >>know it's that disk, 'cause the SYS volume is a different > manufacturer > >and > >>the noise is unique. I can stop the noise only by downing the > server. > >>Unloading Netmail makes no difference, nor the other features I've > >tried. > >>Apache is running off the SYS volume, and anything else I can think > of > >>peculiar to this installation. At one point I thought opening the > file > >>USHHD21.HVM in the root of VOL1 stopped the activity momentarily, > so I > >>stopped NISSERV, which owned that file. No luck there. VREPAIR > shows no > >>errors on the drive. > >> > >>Short of stepping through monitor looking for interesting file > activity > >>(on thousands of files!), what am I missing, here? > >>-- > >>--Cal Frye, Network Administrator, Oberlin College > >> www.ouuf.org, www.kentuu.org, www.calfrye.com > >> > >> "640K ought to be enough for anybody" (Bill Gates, 1981) > > > >Tim C > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Novell mailing list > >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com From ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu Fri Feb 14 18:04:58 2003 From: ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 13:04:58 -0500 Subject: Need Ammunition to fight Organization Directory Management Message-ID: >You might find that their 'goal' is to move to Microsoft. If that is the >case then arguing for Novell is a waste of time! > While it is very difficult/impossible to get thru to those types (my mind is already made up, don't try to confuse me with facts!), Joe D is correct. Find their goals. Assuming there is not that unstated agenda, you might be able to make the case for Novell products. But, don't go in with "pie in the sky" sorta stuff, "if we do this, we can do that" might not impress. "Everyone knows MS sucks", is right out. (Obviously, *they* don't know that!). Try to show how their immediate needs/goals can be addressed. If they have long range goals, of course, consider them. If it can be shown that they will get more, for less money . . . Well, they are business men. One assumes. Since many do have their own best interests at heart and this includes impressing their bosses/directors/investors, that they are on the ball and making the best decisions for the company, such might prove effective. Ya gotta speak their language, which is where the Marketing/Sales force is supposed to come in. Besides, they ususally wear nice suits and ties, which, we all know, allways elicits respect. joea/ > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Joe Doupnik [mailto:JRD at cc.usu.edu] >> Sent: 14 February 2003 16:41 >> To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu >> Subject: Re: Need Ammunition to fight Organization Directory >> Management >> >> >> I hate to say this, but it might be a good idea to find out >> what your managment wants to accomplish, and then address those >goals. >> Otherwise one ends up being yet another special interest advocate. >> Joe D. >> _______________________________________________ >> Novell mailing list >> Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >> http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >> From cjf at calfrye.com Fri Feb 14 20:27:38 2003 From: cjf at calfrye.com (Cal Frye) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 15:27:38 -0500 Subject: Constant disk activity References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030214171319.00b14ba8@pop3> Message-ID: <3E4D513A.2040609@calfrye.com> Paul Dauderis wrote: > I was thinking the same thing, but that should be accomplished by simply > dismounting the Volume. > > then if that makes the noises and drive stop spinning you can start to > knock out Netware possibilities, although unless specifically told to do > so, almost ALL netware modules will run off of SYS. Sorry - thought I'd mentioned that. Downing to DOS halts the activity. Dismounting the volume halts the activity. Indeed, to my knowledge, only Netmail has been set up to use this volume specifically, although it is mounted and available to NFS clients (but there's no one doing so at the moment). And Fred James asked: > Why did the power go out, lightning or something like that. Major > overload, car accident take out pole. POwer outage can do weird > things. I had one last summer that hit 1 UPS and every NIC in every > Computer, 1 modem, 2 hubs, & cable modem. Power outage was caused by high winds slapping the high tension lines around. My UPS was good for about half an hour (comparing log files on this unit and stuff at the College). Final shutdown was when the UPS ran out. UPS is an APC SmartUPS 1000. Nothing else is fishy, and there was a Win2K terminal server, a Linux firewall, and an Appleshare server on that same UPS. They all test fine. > Is it a maxtor drive Nope. IBM DPSS-309170-N 9GB SCSI > > > novell at netlab1.usu.edu writes: > >>Diagnose if it's Netware or hardware by downing and leaving it at DOS? >> >>At 12:05 14/02/2003 -0500, you wrote: >> >>>Anyone got a minute for this one? >>>Wednesday we suffered an extended power outage. The server in my >> > -- --Cal Frye, Network Administrator, Oberlin College www.ouuf.org, www.kentuu.org, www.calfrye.com "Make something foolproof and someone will find a bigger fool." From bud at moldriteplastics.com Fri Feb 14 20:45:54 2003 From: bud at moldriteplastics.com (Bud Durland) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 15:45:54 -0500 Subject: Constant disk activity In-Reply-To: <3E4D513A.2040609@calfrye.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030214171319.00b14ba8@pop3> <3E4D513A.2040609@calfrye.com> Message-ID: <3E4D5582.3090908@moldriteplastics.com> At this point, about the only suggestion I have is to re-run VREPAIR, with the the option set to purge deleted files. Being a pragmatist, I usually run it a couple times. Cal Frye wrote: > Paul Dauderis wrote: > > Sorry - thought I'd mentioned that. Downing to DOS halts the activity. > Dismounting the volume halts the activity. Indeed, to my knowledge, > only Netmail has been set up to use this volume specifically, although > it is mounted and available to NFS clients (but there's no one doing > so at the moment). > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Pinky, are you pondering whay I'm pondering?" "I think so, Brain, but really, me and Pippi Longstockings? I mean, what would the children look like?" ------------------------------------------------------------------- Bud Durland, CNE Mold-Rite Plastics Network Administrator http://www.mrpcap.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- From jgroetsema at uop.edu Fri Feb 14 21:15:42 2003 From: jgroetsema at uop.edu (Jeff Groetsema) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 13:15:42 -0800 Subject: Incomplete drive mappings Message-ID: No, we have an unlimited license (MLA) >>> lwillis at heritagestp.com 02/13/03 08:08AM >>> Any chance that the server that you are trying to map to has run out of user licenses? Loren Willis, Chief Technology Officer & Controller Heritage Exhibits 651-578-3600 fax 651-578-3663 lwillis at heritagestp.com >>> jgroetsema at uop.edu 02/12/03 03:22PM >>> John, Very interesting. We too are using Cisco switches. Our Backbone switch is a Cisco 4000 (wich I believe has the same IOS as the 6500) and most of our distribution switches are Cisco. I'll keep an eye on this perspective as well. Thanks, Jeff >>> John at coastal.edu 02/12/03 01:06PM >>> I have started seeing this happen the very week after the SQL Slammer hit. We had to reboot our Backbone switch (Cisco6509) which routes IP and IPX. After the reboot, we started seeing this same sort of behavior. It took me several days to remedy and I am still unsure as to what exactly remedied it. I started by rebooting the servers, the reset the switches in the affected areas, then I removed IPX routing from our Cisco6509 and adding it back. Things started getting back to normal. Then last week I upgraded the image on the Cisco6509 which required a reset and rebooted my main server last night to release a hung service and today I am getting calls again with the same problem. This is a strange problem and like you say is hard to run down, because the next reboot of the workstation and it may work, but that doesn't mean its really fixed. -----Original Message----- From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Jeff Groetsema Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 3:51 PM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: Re: Incomplete drive mappings Gary, I initially suspected DHCP and SLP, but this has not changed (I take care of these settings) and others in the same area (context, VLAN) do not have problems. Also, this is not consistant in that the same person will login again (or maybe after several login attempts) and get the drive mapping. If they do not get the drive mapping, they can still browse the the directory and see the files there. Jeff >>> g.walton at coventry.ac.uk 02/12/03 11:36AM >>> We had an issue where a client was set up to use IP only and thanks to someone playing with DHCP and SLP and a server being rebooted the SLP details were incorrect and the drive failed to map. Also if the users are not assigned rights to the volume or to any file on the volume then mapping fails. I am assuming you are getting map failure rather than just not appearing. If they are not appearing is there a policy causing the problem? Gary Walton Jeff Groetsema wrote: >We have a situation going on here where occasionally users will not >receive all the drive mappings they are supposed to have. This usually >seems to happen with mappings to two particular servers, both of which >are NW5.1 and neither of which is taxed heavily. This happens with >Win98, Win2K, and WinXP systems, each with the latest client for the >platform. > >Has anyone else seen similar issues? > >Thanks, > > >Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services >University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > -- Gary Walton Principal Analyst Programmer Coventry University Priory Street Coventry CV1 5FB Tel +44 024 76838641 ---------------------------- _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From jgroetsema at uop.edu Fri Feb 14 21:19:18 2003 From: jgroetsema at uop.edu (Jeff Groetsema) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 13:19:18 -0800 Subject: Incomplete drive mappings Message-ID: Gary, Very interesting information. But we do not use policies at this time. Hopefully soon. Thanks, Jeff >>> g.walton at coventry.ac.uk 02/13/03 09:00AM >>> Do you use policies? Do you run console one from one server or any? We have found that the policy files (adm files) are stored in consoleone\1.2\bin\zen\admfile and need to be the same on all servers (ZAKWINNT.ADM) specifically for drives. If there is any difference then setting the preferred server will fix the problem if the server has the correct version. We found this out because we modified the ZAK adm file to hide the c: drive but show the d: drive on a local copy of console one (faster) which worked but then we ran console one from the server and modified the policy. We lost all network drives but could see local drives:(. Copying the ZAKWINNT.ADM file to the server and resetting the policy fixed the problem. Gary Jeff Groetsema wrote: >We have a situation going on here where occasionally users will not receive all the drive mappings they are supposed to have. This usually seems to happen with mappings to two particular servers, both of which are NW5.1 and neither of which is taxed heavily. This happens with Win98, Win2K, and WinXP systems, each with the latest client for the platform. > >Has anyone else seen similar issues? > >Thanks, > > >Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services >University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law >jgroetsema at uop.edu > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > -- Gary Walton Principal Analyst Programmer Coventry University Priory Street Coventry CV1 5FB Tel +44 024 76838641 ---------------------------- _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From skiphefel at advanced-data.com Fri Feb 14 21:23:31 2003 From: skiphefel at advanced-data.com (Skip Hefel) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 15:23:31 -0600 Subject: Need Ammunition to fight Organization Directory Management Message-ID: <2C2609144800D611A50A006008F612270181140A@AXIAL.advanced-data.com> Let me try one more time, our Exchange system got so hosed shortly after 11:00am today, that the server was dragging to a point of standstill. Our Exchange administrator disconnected the dual P6 900mhz server box from the network at 11:00am. He just reconnected it at 2:30pm and had to delete about 25000 pending outgoing and an unknown number pending incoming messages. Needless to say all the 400 email users in the company have a time void of email in our mailboxes. --Incident Report-- -Description Outgoing email was not functioning due to over 25000 messages in the out bound que. These messages did not have return addresses and the destination were not sites we would be sending mail to. -Effects Users were not able to send messages outside the company. -Resolution I shut off routing to prevent mail being routed through our server period. It was set to allow only authenticated users or users on our 172.0.0.0 network. This could have been a virus or a new exploit of the email server's security. I will research further and advise. (thank goodness it's Friday and it was over lunch time!) **** Okay now on to what information I was gonna point to you some sites to check out: Two excellent un-biased , of course they stand to benefit from sale of either products on their solutions. It even has things about Linux, Unix, and Windows. http://www.cdw.com/webcontent/editorial/software.asp -Taking Control of Network Operations -Linking Your Network with the Right NOS second site http://crn.channelsupersearch.com/news/crn/39758.asp Novell's NDS is way more scalable upwards beyond a billion objects http://www.novell.com/products/edirectory/ Do a search on www.Google.com: "eDirectory and Active Directory comparison" will get you 456 comparisons. It's not even apples and oranges, it's more like apples and plums.... Good luck on the mini-minds.... -- John, Go to this http://www.psnug.org/. There are some materials there. Mostly are marketting stuff but every bit helps. Daniel ps: personally NDS is superior to AD. Much easier to maintain and config. File & print is stable. Netware networking is simple (MS networking is a kludge). Maintenance and adminstrative overhead is cheaper with Netware. Hardware requirements to run a stable MS AD/network is more (more machines). > -----Original Message----- > From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu > [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of > john.barro at shaw.ca > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 5:35 AM > To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu > Subject: Need Ammunition to fight Organization Directory Management > > > Hi Everyone, > > I need some help. Our organization is questioning using > Novell for Directory Services - they are talking about MS > Active Directory. I need some ammo from the list as to why > we should stay with Novell. > > We are currently a 5.1 shop with NT/2000 servers as well > (Using NAM for directory synchronization). We have 8 sites > spread over a 300 mile radius. We are a health care > institution with 2000+ users. We have a mix of UNIX, Linux, > NT, W2K. We also use GroupWise exclusively as our e-mail system. > > We are looking into NetWare 6.0 with web portals, SSO, secure > log on, etc. > > Any information would be most welcome as to why we should > stay with Novell !!! > > TIA, > John > From angussf at geoapps.com Fri Feb 14 23:56:29 2003 From: angussf at geoapps.com (Angus Scott-Fleming) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 16:56:29 -0700 Subject: OnSite Admin Tool In-Reply-To: <1045174623.c80c89e0cmoore01@myrealbox.com> Message-ID: <3E4D1FBD.15808.9C1A6C@localhost> On 13 Feb 2003 at 16:17, Chris Moore wrote: > Thanks to everyone that sent me a copy. I deeply appreciate it. Is this freeware? Doesn't look there's a copy at Novell any more. The one copy I found had this readme: http://hercules.lss.ksu.edu/download/Novell/onsite8.htm which says in part "This program expires on February 1, 2000." -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 / fax 1-208-248-3124 http://www.geoapps.com/ AIM: AngusWSF ICQ: 165646506 --------------------------------------------------------- From rgrein at nwlink.com Fri Feb 14 23:58:45 2003 From: rgrein at nwlink.com (Randy Grein) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 15:58:45 -0800 Subject: Need Ammunition to fight Organization Directory Management In-Reply-To: <3E4CA4A2.19484.2D6EE44@localhost> Message-ID: <407C86DE-4078-11D7-8C51-0003937048F0@nwlink.com> Good points, Dan. A couple of clarifications inline: On Friday, February 14, 2003, at 08:11 AM, danrembolt at myrealbox.com wrote: > 2. In Win2k changing file rights on an entire volume or on a folder > with a > large number of subfolders and files can take a long time, and the cpu > will > be at 100% during this time. In Netware changes to file rights > happens > almost instantly. If you want to change file rights on Win2k you > should probably not do it when the server is in active use. Making such a change also takes up a surprising amount of disk space if you have to make many adjustments like this. Oh, and lets not forget that most changes like this don't take effect until the next login. > 6. NTFS volumes need to be defragmented regularly. Fragmentation > can > cost as much as 70% of the system performance. This will not only > make > the system slow for the users, but will severely impact backup > operations. > The volumes should be defragged at least once a week, preferably more > often. The odd thing is this need to defrag means a theoretical advantage for NT backup speeds on equal equipment with bus mastering enabled. > Differences in the Directory > 1. In Win2k user names must be unique across the tree. In Netware > they only needed to be unique in the container. Technically users must be unique within a domain - further evidence that the AD domain (here we're talking about the DNS style domain, not the NT for backwards compatible domain object) is a flat database. Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA From cjf at calfrye.com Sat Feb 15 02:12:34 2003 From: cjf at calfrye.com (Cal Frye) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 21:12:34 -0500 Subject: Constant disk activity References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030214171319.00b14ba8@pop3> <3E4D513A.2040609@calfrye.com> <3E4D5582.3090908@moldriteplastics.com> Message-ID: <3E4DA212.4090909@calfrye.com> Bud Durland wrote: > At this point, about the only suggestion I have is to re-run VREPAIR, > with the the option set to purge deleted files. Being a pragmatist, I > usually run it a couple times. > > Cal Frye wrote: Ok, I lied a bit. Thanks, Bud, the third time I did a VRepair, it did indeed find a bad spot and a single corrupted file -- outside of the mail directories, thank goodness. That changed the _character_ of the activity. But the thrashing stopped about 10 minutes after stopping Netmail -- I hadn't waited long enough before to see the effect. Turns out a bad alias existed to a list object, which might have caused an infinite delivery loop. Killing the alias stopped the thrashing. I'm embarassed to admit this, but I have to report to the group... Good thing it's the weekend; perhaps I need the rest. -- --Cal Frye, Network Administrator, Oberlin College www.ouuf.org, www.kentuu.org, www.calfrye.com "The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them." - Patrick Henry From AHidalgo at salud.unm.edu Sun Feb 16 02:47:37 2003 From: AHidalgo at salud.unm.edu (Al Hidalgo) Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 19:47:37 -0700 Subject: DirXML PWSync on WTS? Message-ID: Will DirXML Password Sync run on NT 4/W2K Terminal Servers? Thanks, Al Al Hidalgo, MCNE Senior Analyst Information Systems University Hospitals ahidalgo at salud.unm.edu From jfast at development.tas.gov.au Sun Feb 16 21:19:37 2003 From: jfast at development.tas.gov.au (jfast at development.tas.gov.au) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 08:19:37 +1100 Subject: W2K Server Problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Another interesting development is the fact that although the server was in a domain, I was easily able to change it back to a workgroup without any difficulty and without having a rebuild. So although it was in the domain(not in AD yet), I assumed MS wouldn't allow me to revert back to a workgroup unless I completely rebuilt it. John jfast at development .tas.gov.au Sent by: To novell-bounces at ne , tlab1.usu.edu novell at netlab1.usu.edu cc 14/02/2003 11:18 Subject AM RE: W2K Server Problem Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group I have removed the reference to Unix, have also made a few modifications such as adding forwarders to Unix per MS documentation. Restarted both the AD Server(PDC) and the additional to be AD DC. Did not make a difference, however. Will continue to investigate and see if I can determine how to add another server to the forest. Thanks, John ----------------------------------------------------------- John Fast Team Leader - Support Services Department of Economic Development Hobart, Tasmania Australia (03)6233 5855 Sent by: "George To Carlson" , cc 14/02/2003 08:42 Subject AM RE: W2K Server Problem Please respond to Remove the reference to the Unix box from your AD Server that you are pointing to. -----Original Message----- From: jfast at development.tas.gov.au [mailto:jfast at development.tas.gov.au] Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 4:34 PM To: Novell LAN Interest Group; gcarlson at myrealbox.com Subject: Re: W2K Server Problem Yes my primary DNS for this domain is AD DNS. The server I am attempting to add to AD has the DNS settings only with the AD DNS server, no secondary DNS is set and the 'register this connections dns' is turned on as the documentation states it should be, however somehow the Unix DNS is somehow knowing about it as it is attempting to be updated, now either AD DNS which does know about the Unix DNS is passing on the request or I have overlooked something on the AD DNS server PDC for the AD Domain. John "George Carlson" To Sent by: novell at netlab1.usu.edu novell-bounces at ne cc tlab1.usu.edu Subject Re: W2K Server Problem 13/02/2003 11:09 PM Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group I take it from your Narrative that your primary DNS is the AD DNS. Do you have a secondary DNS on this server? if so, delete it, restart and try again. It may be timing out on the primary (even if it is proverbially right next door), and going to the secondary, which knows nothing of your AD Domain. Microsoft does not tell you not to have a secondary, but I already have been caught once by that. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From msmith at col-westanglia.ac.uk Mon Feb 17 10:30:57 2003 From: msmith at col-westanglia.ac.uk (Martyn Smith) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 10:30:57 -0000 Subject: Need Ammunition to fight Organization Directory Management In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000a01c2d66f$a84eddd0$8d0010ac@colwestanglia.ac.uk> I have similar battles *A LOT* of the time and a lot of it is down to, "I want to run this software". Unfortunately I spend far too much time these days saying it requires a win2k server as it runs as a windows service. Unfortunate facts of the matter are that unless Novell can get *FAR* more developers on board by making their software easier to develop to we will all end up running AD. I usually get around it giving arguments about the best tools for the job, e.g if I can use freeware on Linux to do it the I will, if I have to use a Windows Server then I will, and I'll use Novell products as glue so that usernames and passwords and organisational policies are synched across the lot (still some work to go in this area methinks). This of course means that, though they save on money for some software, they have to pay more to get trained staff (there is the misconception that a monkey can plug together a Windows network and have to work because they have all run through the Windows Networking Wizard - Duh). Martyn From gcarlson at myrealbox.com Mon Feb 17 13:44:43 2003 From: gcarlson at myrealbox.com (gcarlson at myrealbox.com) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 08:44:43 -0500 Subject: W2K Server Problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <03f301c2d68a$ba6223e0$0200a8c0@libra2> That explains a lot more. It appears the computer account got corrupted in AD and that is why you could not prmote it. Try deleting the account, and then re-adding it to AD. Then promoting it. AD 1.0 has a long way to go before it is as good as Novell Directory services. I have to re-add computer accounts all the time in AD. And there is no rhyme or reason for it. There is nothing in Microsoft Q docs that explain it, or how to guard against it. -----Original Message----- From: jfast at development.tas.gov.au [mailto:jfast at development.tas.gov.au] Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 4:20 PM To: Novell LAN Interest Group; georgepcarlson at yahoo.com Subject: RE: W2K Server Problem Another interesting development is the fact that although the server was in a domain, I was easily able to change it back to a workgroup without any difficulty and without having a rebuild. So although it was in the domain(not in AD yet), I assumed MS wouldn't allow me to revert back to a workgroup unless I completely rebuilt it. John jfast at development .tas.gov.au Sent by: To novell-bounces at ne , tlab1.usu.edu novell at netlab1.usu.edu cc 14/02/2003 11:18 Subject AM RE: W2K Server Problem Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group I have removed the reference to Unix, have also made a few modifications such as adding forwarders to Unix per MS documentation. Restarted both the AD Server(PDC) and the additional to be AD DC. Did not make a difference, however. Will continue to investigate and see if I can determine how to add another server to the forest. Thanks, John ----------------------------------------------------------- John Fast Team Leader - Support Services Department of Economic Development Hobart, Tasmania Australia (03)6233 5855 Sent by: "George To Carlson" , cc 14/02/2003 08:42 Subject AM RE: W2K Server Problem Please respond to Remove the reference to the Unix box from your AD Server that you are pointing to. -----Original Message----- From: jfast at development.tas.gov.au [mailto:jfast at development.tas.gov.au] Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 4:34 PM To: Novell LAN Interest Group; gcarlson at myrealbox.com Subject: Re: W2K Server Problem Yes my primary DNS for this domain is AD DNS. The server I am attempting to add to AD has the DNS settings only with the AD DNS server, no secondary DNS is set and the 'register this connections dns' is turned on as the documentation states it should be, however somehow the Unix DNS is somehow knowing about it as it is attempting to be updated, now either AD DNS which does know about the Unix DNS is passing on the request or I have overlooked something on the AD DNS server PDC for the AD Domain. John "George Carlson" To Sent by: novell at netlab1.usu.edu novell-bounces at ne cc tlab1.usu.edu Subject Re: W2K Server Problem 13/02/2003 11:09 PM Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group I take it from your Narrative that your primary DNS is the AD DNS. Do you have a secondary DNS on this server? if so, delete it, restart and try again. It may be timing out on the primary (even if it is proverbially right next door), and going to the secondary, which knows nothing of your AD Domain. Microsoft does not tell you not to have a secondary, but I already have been caught once by that. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From acquistj at lan.newpaltz.edu Mon Feb 17 13:55:08 2003 From: acquistj at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 08:55:08 -0500 Subject: Need Ammunition to fight Organization Directory Management Message-ID: >----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- The resort to violence announces our abandonment of Reason. --------------------------------------------------- >>> msmith at col-westanglia.ac.uk 02/17/03 04:53 AM >>> >I have similar battles *A LOT* of the time and a lot >of it is down to, >"I want to run this software". . . . > That is a reality. > >Unfortunate facts of the matter are that unless >Novell can get *FAR* >more developers on board by making their software >easier to develop to >we will all end up running AD. Don't agree, completely. Novell has made what appear to be sufficient effort in making it "easier" to develope apps to the Netware Platform. See Developer areas. However, MS stuff is never going to go away, more's the pity. Many developers are not going to "re-port" their stuff to Netware, period. Unless they can be shown a larger market, or a more stable platforms, hence greater customer satisfaction. Even so, some will not. Ever. Leave them be and move on. Unless the app developers are so into the dark side that they program to AD to the exclusion of others, I can see no reason that "apps" force a move to AD, as such. That being the case, it moves to the political/management arena. The subject of this thread is "ammunition to fight". Lets take that one step further. There is plenty of "ammo". Now, learn to take careful aim. Part of that is "acquiring target". Then concentrating on vital spots. Don't spray wildly with an AK-47 in full auto. (Also, don't hand the "chosen one" a manlicher/carcano.) And, don't lose sight of the fact that Novell has won over (back ?) an number of larger clients over that last few years. So, not everyone is blinded by the dust of the MS Marketing Machine. >I usually get around it giving arguments about the >best tools for the >job, e.g if I can use freeware on Linux to do it the >I will, if I have >to use a Windows Server then I will, and I'll use >Novell products as glue so that usernames and >passwords and organisational policies are >synched across the lot (still some work to go in this >area methinks). Novell, years ago, acknowledged that "best of breed" is a powerfull concept and a logical one. One of the reasons they began to develop NDS (eDirectory) to a multi platform "glue jar". Of course, it is much more than that. >This of course means that, though they save on money >for some software, >they have to pay more to get trained staff (there is >the misconception >that a monkey can plug together a Windows network and >have to work >because they have all run through the Windows >Networking Wizard - Duh). >Martyn If you are actively fighting that battle, then perhaps the solution is to leave that market to the monkeys and move to larger/more astute clients. Easier said than done, of course. I myself, do not relish the idea of being an "independent contractor/consultant" in this economy/society. One of the ideas behind "windows networking" was to make it so easy a monkey could do it. Almost. They still leave a lot of bannana peels about. From skiphefel at advanced-data.com Mon Feb 17 15:31:17 2003 From: skiphefel at advanced-data.com (Skip Hefel) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 09:31:17 -0600 Subject: Testing my listserv account Message-ID: <2C2609144800D611A50A006008F612270181140F@AXIAL.advanced-data.com> Testing to see if our email exchange system is running some kind of list serv restriction. Our exchange administrator won't tell the network admins if he did anything. I haven't received a email since Friday. Apparently our Exchange system was the target of slammers, virus, or it just got 25,000 emails behind to the point of our exchange administrator disconnecting the the ethernet cables from it for four hours and then deleting the 25000 pending outbox emails. It that standard operating procedure for exchange systems. I've worked for some major corporations that used GroupWise and don't recall this ever being an issue. Could someone reply just to my address so that I know it is reaching the listserv. At least I know that I will subscribe from myrealbox.com account. Thanks Skip Hefel, CNE From skiphefel at advanced-data.com Mon Feb 17 15:34:39 2003 From: skiphefel at advanced-data.com (Skip Hefel) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 09:34:39 -0600 Subject: Testing my listserv account.... looks like I got this back. Message-ID: <2C2609144800D611A50A006008F6122701811410@AXIAL.advanced-data.com> Got this back, but STILL haven't received any listserv posts since Friday from anyone else! -----Original Message----- From: Skip Hefel [mailto:skiphefel at advanced-data.com] Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 9:31 AM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: Testing my listserv account Testing to see if our email exchange system is running some kind of list serv restriction. Our exchange administrator won't tell the network admins if he did anything. I haven't received a email since Friday. Apparently our Exchange system was the target of slammers, virus, or it just got 25,000 emails behind to the point of our exchange administrator disconnecting the the ethernet cables from it for four hours and then deleting the 25000 pending outbox emails. It that standard operating procedure for exchange systems. I've worked for some major corporations that used GroupWise and don't recall this ever being an issue. Could someone reply just to my address so that I know it is reaching the listserv. At least I know that I will subscribe from myrealbox.com account. Thanks Skip Hefel, CNE _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From maryve1 at starpower.net Mon Feb 17 15:48:56 2003 From: maryve1 at starpower.net (Mary Van Engelen) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 10:48:56 -0500 Subject: Testing my listserv account.... looks like I got this back. In-Reply-To: <2C2609144800D611A50A006008F6122701811410@AXIAL.advanced-da ta.com> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20030217104337.02329370@pop.starpower.net> There have been 6 other posts since 7:00 p.m. on Friday. Today is a holiday, so you are not likely to see much today, especially not from those of us in Washington, D.C. and points north. Most of us are out shoveling snow! Mary At 2/17/2003 10:34 AM, Skip Hefel wrote: >Got this back, but STILL haven't received any listserv posts since Friday >from anyone else! > >-----Original Message----- >From: Skip Hefel [mailto:skiphefel at advanced-data.com] >Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 9:31 AM >To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' >Subject: Testing my listserv account > > >Testing to see if our email exchange system is running some kind of list >serv restriction. Our exchange administrator won't tell the network admins >if he did anything. >I haven't received a email since Friday. Apparently our Exchange system was >the target of slammers, virus, or it just got 25,000 emails behind to the >point of our exchange administrator disconnecting the the ethernet cables >from it for four hours and then deleting the 25000 pending outbox emails. It >that standard operating procedure for exchange systems. I've worked for some >major corporations that used GroupWise and don't recall this ever being an >issue. >Could someone reply just to my address so that I know it is reaching the >listserv. At least I know that I will subscribe from myrealbox.com account. >Thanks >Skip Hefel, CNE >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From skiphefel at advanced-data.com Mon Feb 17 16:10:45 2003 From: skiphefel at advanced-data.com (Skip Hefel) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 10:10:45 -0600 Subject: Testing my listserv account.... looks like I got this back. Message-ID: <2C2609144800D611A50A006008F6122701811412@AXIAL.advanced-data.com> Thanks Mary and Leonard! I know my ListServ restriction isn't running because of the "To: Novell LAN Interest Group" that it came back. The East is definitely getting the Blast X4 from what we got in the Midwest. Thanks. Skip -----Original Message----- From: Mary Van Engelen [mailto:maryve1 at starpower.net] Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 9:49 AM To: Novell LAN Interest Group Subject: RE: Testing my listserv account.... looks like I got this back. There have been 6 other posts since 7:00 p.m. on Friday. Today is a holiday, so you are not likely to see much today, especially not from those of us in Washington, D.C. and points north. Most of us are out shoveling snow! Mary At 2/17/2003 10:34 AM, Skip Hefel wrote: >Got this back, but STILL haven't received any listserv posts since Friday >from anyone else! > >-----Original Message----- >From: Skip Hefel [mailto:skiphefel at advanced-data.com] >Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 9:31 AM >To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' >Subject: Testing my listserv account > > >Testing to see if our email exchange system is running some kind of list >serv restriction. Our exchange administrator won't tell the network admins >if he did anything. >I haven't received a email since Friday. Apparently our Exchange system was >the target of slammers, virus, or it just got 25,000 emails behind to the >point of our exchange administrator disconnecting the the ethernet cables >from it for four hours and then deleting the 25000 pending outbox emails. It >that standard operating procedure for exchange systems. I've worked for some >major corporations that used GroupWise and don't recall this ever being an >issue. >Could someone reply just to my address so that I know it is reaching the >listserv. At least I know that I will subscribe from myrealbox.com account. >Thanks >Skip Hefel, CNE >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From Catto at atlas.unisinos.br Mon Feb 17 19:13:20 2003 From: Catto at atlas.unisinos.br (Augustinho Catto) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 16:13:20 -0300 Subject: Radius compatible Message-ID: <3E510A20.10705.AD986E@localhost> Hello everybody: In our University we would like authenticate our student which are using laptops. Our first option is using the feature on the Enterasys switch and force ther user to authenticate against Novell Radius. I?ve heard a rumor that Novel Border Manager Radius is not compatible with 802.1x standards and TLS. Any ideas are welcome and TIA, Catto Augustinho Valmor CATTO CNE - Analista de Suporte UNISINOS - Universidade do Vale do Rio dos Sinos Sao Leopoldo - RS - Brasil Phone: +55 xx 51 590-8386 http://www.unisinos.br/institucional/estrutura/ From carter at ipfw.edu Mon Feb 17 19:57:44 2003 From: carter at ipfw.edu (Jean-Paul Carter) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 14:57:44 -0500 Subject: Radius compatible Message-ID: Correct, it does not support the new stuff. Novell has said that they "plan" to, but not going to happen any time real soon. Other option is www.funk.com (Steel Belted Radius) While the new version does not run on Netware anymore, it can authenticate via LDAP. And does support all of the new stuff. John Carter Senior Network Systems Programmer ITServices Indiana Purdue University Ft. Wayne 2101 Coliseum Blvd Ft. Wayne IN 46805 260 481-5473 260 481-4152 fax carter at ipfw.edu >>> Catto at atlas.unisinos.br 02/17/03 02:13PM >>> Hello everybody: In our University we would like authenticate our student which are using laptops. Our first option is using the feature on the Enterasys switch and force ther user to authenticate against Novell Radius. I ve heard a rumor that Novel Border Manager Radius is not compatible with 802.1x standards and TLS. Any ideas are welcome and TIA, Catto Augustinho Valmor CATTO CNE - Analista de Suporte UNISINOS - Universidade do Vale do Rio dos Sinos Sao Leopoldo - RS - Brasil Phone: +55 xx 51 590-8386 http://www.unisinos.br/institucional/estrutura/ _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From jgroetsema at uop.edu Tue Feb 18 00:37:15 2003 From: jgroetsema at uop.edu (Jeff Groetsema) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 16:37:15 -0800 Subject: New server hardware Message-ID: All, We have new hardware to replace an aging server and I'd like to get the lists comments/recommendation on it's installation. Currently there are two points of view in our camp. 1. That the aging server should be replaced using across the wire migration (Wizard). 2. The new hardware should be installed and files and services manually migrated to it from the aging server. The aging server hosts Files services (65GB of home directory files, 7GB of installed apps, and 10GB of IT stuff), Print services (NDPS - 58 printers), ZEN, and is a R/W replica. Your comments of each method, or other methods, are greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu From carter at ipfw.edu Tue Feb 18 00:41:11 2003 From: carter at ipfw.edu (Jean-Paul Carter) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 19:41:11 -0500 Subject: New server hardware Message-ID: We typically do #2 and use NWCOPY from Nick Payne to migrate the files. It does an excellent job for copying between server and is fast. Will do quotas, trustees file rights. John Carter Senior Network Systems Programmer ITServices Indiana Purdue University Ft. Wayne 2101 Coliseum Blvd Ft. Wayne IN 46805 260 481-5473 260 481-4152 fax carter at ipfw.edu >>> jgroetsema at uop.edu 02/17/03 07:37PM >>> All, We have new hardware to replace an aging server and I'd like to get the lists comments/recommendation on it's installation. Currently there are two points of view in our camp. 1. That the aging server should be replaced using across the wire migration (Wizard). 2. The new hardware should be installed and files and services manually migrated to it from the aging server. The aging server hosts Files services (65GB of home directory files, 7GB of installed apps, and 10GB of IT stuff), Print services (NDPS - 58 printers), ZEN, and is a R/W replica. Your comments of each method, or other methods, are greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From schlossers at ucfv.bc.ca Tue Feb 18 00:52:11 2003 From: schlossers at ucfv.bc.ca (Shane Schlosser) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 16:52:11 -0800 Subject: New server hardware Message-ID: We have been using the Migration Wizard for the last 4 server hardware upgrades and have been quite happy with it so far. It is very easy to use and it allows us to perform the file copy while the server is still in use (then a quicky copy of any files that were modified after the main copy took place). I haven't used the Migration Wizard to go to a new version of Netware so I can't comment on that part of it though. What I will do is install the new server in a temporary tree and patch it up to the same level of DS and Netware as the server I am going to migrate from. ___ Shane Schlosser Information Technology Services University College of the Fraser Valley schlossers at ucfv.bc.ca (604) 557-4007 >>> jgroetsema at uop.edu 02/17/03 04:37pm >>> All, We have new hardware to replace an aging server and I'd like to get the lists comments/recommendation on it's installation. Currently there are two points of view in our camp. 1. That the aging server should be replaced using across the wire migration (Wizard). 2. The new hardware should be installed and files and services manually migrated to it from the aging server. The aging server hosts Files services (65GB of home directory files, 7GB of installed apps, and 10GB of IT stuff), Print services (NDPS - 58 printers), ZEN, and is a R/W replica. Your comments of each method, or other methods, are greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From rgaspar at patlq.com Tue Feb 18 13:43:10 2003 From: rgaspar at patlq.com (Roland Gaspar) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 08:43:10 -0500 Subject: FYI: Linux GUI Novell Client Message-ID: http://sourceforge.net/projects/novelclient/ also featured on coolsolutions ________________________ Roland Gaspar Tel.: (514) 398-7880 xt 8603 ICQ # 1355591 www.roland-gaspar.com From rgrein at nwlink.com Tue Feb 18 14:54:38 2003 From: rgrein at nwlink.com (Randy Grein) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 06:54:38 -0800 Subject: New server hardware In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I've had good success with both methods. Manual moves are a pain with printers (without something like JRB utilities), whereas if you use the migration tool NDPS printers are pretty easy. Keep in mind that you will have to reinstall all your applications regardless - the migration does not move server files, just user data. On Monday, February 17, 2003, at 04:37 PM, Jeff Groetsema wrote: > All, > > We have new hardware to replace an aging server and I'd like to get > the lists comments/recommendation on it's installation. > > Currently there are two points of view in our camp. > > 1. That the aging server should be replaced using across the wire > migration (Wizard). > > 2. The new hardware should be installed and files and services > manually migrated to it from the aging server. > > The aging server hosts Files services (65GB of home directory files, > 7GB of installed apps, and 10GB of IT stuff), Print services (NDPS - > 58 printers), ZEN, and is a R/W replica. > > Your comments of each method, or other methods, are greatly > appreciated. > > Thanks, > > > Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services > University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law > jgroetsema at uop.edu > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA From John at coastal.edu Tue Feb 18 14:59:07 2003 From: John at coastal.edu (John Hanna) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 09:59:07 -0500 Subject: New server hardware In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <005f01c2d75e$4c80c3c0$041478c7@ccu03722> We used the migration wizard to upgrade from NW4.11 to NW5.1 and it did a great job. Including seamlessly moving print queues which are stated to be no longer a service with NW5.1 > > We have new hardware to replace an aging server and I'd like to get > the lists comments/recommendation on it's installation. > > Currently there are two points of view in our camp. > > 1. That the aging server should be replaced using across the wire > migration (Wizard). > > 2. The new hardware should be installed and files and services > manually migrated to it from the aging server. > > The aging server hosts Files services (65GB of home directory files, > 7GB of installed apps, and 10GB of IT stuff), Print services (NDPS - > 58 printers), ZEN, and is a R/W replica. > > Your comments of each method, or other methods, are greatly > appreciated. > > Thanks, > From rgrein at nwlink.com Tue Feb 18 15:27:31 2003 From: rgrein at nwlink.com (Randy Grein) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 07:27:31 -0800 Subject: New server hardware In-Reply-To: <005f01c2d75e$4c80c3c0$041478c7@ccu03722> Message-ID: <7F21D7FC-4355-11D7-B2DB-0003937048F0@nwlink.com> Dunno where you heard that queues aren't supported in 5.1 - they're there and supported. On Tuesday, February 18, 2003, at 06:59 AM, John Hanna wrote: > We used the migration wizard to upgrade from NW4.11 to NW5.1 and it did > a great job. Including seamlessly moving print queues which are stated > to be no longer a service with NW5.1 > >> >> We have new hardware to replace an aging server and I'd like to get >> the lists comments/recommendation on it's installation. >> >> Currently there are two points of view in our camp. >> >> 1. That the aging server should be replaced using across the wire >> migration (Wizard). >> >> 2. The new hardware should be installed and files and services >> manually migrated to it from the aging server. >> >> The aging server hosts Files services (65GB of home directory files, >> 7GB of installed apps, and 10GB of IT stuff), Print services (NDPS - >> 58 printers), ZEN, and is a R/W replica. >> >> Your comments of each method, or other methods, are greatly >> appreciated. >> >> Thanks, >> > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA From jgroetsema at uop.edu Tue Feb 18 15:56:22 2003 From: jgroetsema at uop.edu (Jeff Groetsema) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 07:56:22 -0800 Subject: New server hardware Message-ID: When you say that I will have to reinsstall all my applications, what applications are you referring to? ZEN? As far as user applications (GW client, WordPerfect, etc.), I would expect that in either method, they would come across with appropriate rights as well. Am I missing something here? Thanks, Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu >>> rgrein at nwlink.com 02/18/03 06:54AM >>> I've had good success with both methods. Manual moves are a pain with printers (without something like JRB utilities), whereas if you use the migration tool NDPS printers are pretty easy. Keep in mind that you will have to reinstall all your applications regardless - the migration does not move server files, just user data. On Monday, February 17, 2003, at 04:37 PM, Jeff Groetsema wrote: > All, > > We have new hardware to replace an aging server and I'd like to get > the lists comments/recommendation on it's installation. > > Currently there are two points of view in our camp. > > 1. That the aging server should be replaced using across the wire > migration (Wizard). > > 2. The new hardware should be installed and files and services > manually migrated to it from the aging server. > > The aging server hosts Files services (65GB of home directory files, > 7GB of installed apps, and 10GB of IT stuff), Print services (NDPS - > 58 printers), ZEN, and is a R/W replica. > > Your comments of each method, or other methods, are greatly > appreciated. > > Thanks, > > > Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services > University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law > jgroetsema at uop.edu > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From jgroetsema at uop.edu Tue Feb 18 16:03:02 2003 From: jgroetsema at uop.edu (Jeff Groetsema) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 08:03:02 -0800 Subject: New server hardware Message-ID: John, Thanks for the information. I'll take a look into NWCOPY. What are your reasons for doing things this way? This method would seem to require more fiddling with login scripts, home directory pointers, directory map objects, etc. Thanks for any information you can pass on, Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu >>> "Jean-Paul Carter" 02/17/03 04:41PM >>> We typically do #2 and use NWCOPY from Nick Payne to migrate the files. It does an excellent job for copying between server and is fast. Will do quotas, trustees file rights. John Carter Senior Network Systems Programmer ITServices Indiana Purdue University Ft. Wayne 2101 Coliseum Blvd Ft. Wayne IN 46805 260 481-5473 260 481-4152 fax carter at ipfw.edu >>> jgroetsema at uop.edu 02/17/03 07:37PM >>> All, We have new hardware to replace an aging server and I'd like to get the lists comments/recommendation on it's installation. Currently there are two points of view in our camp. 1. That the aging server should be replaced using across the wire migration (Wizard). 2. The new hardware should be installed and files and services manually migrated to it from the aging server. The aging server hosts Files services (65GB of home directory files, 7GB of installed apps, and 10GB of IT stuff), Print services (NDPS - 58 printers), ZEN, and is a R/W replica. Your comments of each method, or other methods, are greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From jgroetsema at uop.edu Tue Feb 18 16:12:10 2003 From: jgroetsema at uop.edu (Jeff Groetsema) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 08:12:10 -0800 Subject: New server hardware Message-ID: Shane, Thanks for your information! What method were you using before Migration Wizard and why did you start using it? Am I hearing you right, that you can use it while users are still onlin!?! How do you know what files were modified after the main copy? What's your experience with NDPS and/or ZEN using the Migration Wizard? This stuff is very helpfull, Thanks, Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu >>> schlossers at ucfv.bc.ca 02/17/03 04:52PM >>> We have been using the Migration Wizard for the last 4 server hardware upgrades and have been quite happy with it so far. It is very easy to use and it allows us to perform the file copy while the server is still in use (then a quicky copy of any files that were modified after the main copy took place). I haven't used the Migration Wizard to go to a new version of Netware so I can't comment on that part of it though. What I will do is install the new server in a temporary tree and patch it up to the same level of DS and Netware as the server I am going to migrate from. ___ Shane Schlosser Information Technology Services University College of the Fraser Valley schlossers at ucfv.bc.ca (604) 557-4007 >>> jgroetsema at uop.edu 02/17/03 04:37pm >>> All, We have new hardware to replace an aging server and I'd like to get the lists comments/recommendation on it's installation. Currently there are two points of view in our camp. 1. That the aging server should be replaced using across the wire migration (Wizard). 2. The new hardware should be installed and files and services manually migrated to it from the aging server. The aging server hosts Files services (65GB of home directory files, 7GB of installed apps, and 10GB of IT stuff), Print services (NDPS - 58 printers), ZEN, and is a R/W replica. Your comments of each method, or other methods, are greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From John at coastal.edu Tue Feb 18 16:30:50 2003 From: John at coastal.edu (John Hanna) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 11:30:50 -0500 Subject: New server hardware In-Reply-To: <7F21D7FC-4355-11D7-B2DB-0003937048F0@nwlink.com> Message-ID: <009301c2d76b$1c3ff020$041478c7@ccu03722> I know that they are there and supported. That was the point of my message about the migration working. However NW 5.1 (NOT NW5.0) Manual and documentation state that bindery print queues are no longer supported. -----Original Message----- From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Randy Grein Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 10:28 AM To: Novell LAN Interest Group Subject: Re: New server hardware Dunno where you heard that queues aren't supported in 5.1 - they're there and supported. From jgroetsema at uop.edu Tue Feb 18 16:49:24 2003 From: jgroetsema at uop.edu (Jeff Groetsema) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 08:49:24 -0800 Subject: New server hardware Message-ID: Is it the case where the Migration Wizard does not support queue based printing? I know that some time ago when I used the "accross the wire migration" method, queue objects were disassociated from their printer and print server objects and the queues had to be recreated. Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu >>> John at coastal.edu 02/18/03 08:30AM >>> I know that they are there and supported. That was the point of my message about the migration working. However NW 5.1 (NOT NW5.0) Manual and documentation state that bindery print queues are no longer supported. -----Original Message----- From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Randy Grein Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 10:28 AM To: Novell LAN Interest Group Subject: Re: New server hardware Dunno where you heard that queues aren't supported in 5.1 - they're there and supported. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From nora at ALSPHILADELPHIA.ORG Tue Feb 18 16:56:23 2003 From: nora at ALSPHILADELPHIA.ORG (Nora Isaac) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 11:56:23 -0500 Subject: New server hardware Message-ID: I am out of the office the afternoon of Tuesday, February 18th, 2002. I'll be in tomorrow at 7:30am and will respond to your email at that time. Thank you. Nora Isaac ALS Association From jlindblom at mico.com Tue Feb 18 17:09:45 2003 From: jlindblom at mico.com (jlindblom at mico.com) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 11:09:45 -0600 Subject: W2K Workstation Time Service Message-ID: Workstation time is maintained by the Novell Client and the NetWare server so the time service in W2K it is not necessary. The only problems I can see with it running is the errors it records in the event log and the minimal network traffic when it tries to find a W2K DC to get time. What are you guy's doing with the W2K workstation time service that starts by default? John Lindblom Network Administrator MICO, Inc. North Mankato, MN From schlossers at ucfv.bc.ca Tue Feb 18 17:34:21 2003 From: schlossers at ucfv.bc.ca (Shane Schlosser) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 09:34:21 -0800 Subject: New server hardware Message-ID: Before we started using the migration wizard we would build up a new server then backup the old server to tape and restore from tape to the new server. We would use the "Prepare for Hardware Upgrade" feature to move NDS. This method took a lot longer as it all had to be done while users were not on the server. We just migrated one of our main lab servers and did the first phase of the migration while our users were using the old server. The first phase of the migration is the file copy to the new server which took about half a day. After the file copy was finished and I was ready to move on to the next part of the migration which I did during off hours. I did a search on the data volume for files that were modified after I did the main data migration. I then copied those files manually (there weren't too many of them). I then did the last part of the migration wizard (DS) and it took the old server down and brought the new one up. When you do the data copy it copies the main SYS: folders into a folder on SYS called "SYS.MIG", in this folder you will find SYSTEM, PUBLIC, ETC, JAVA, and some other folders from the original server. If you are migrating from an older Netware version to a newer one you don't want to overwrite your SYSTEM, PUBLIC, and other folders as the versions will be wrong. You will then have to re-install things like ZEN and Groupwise. Since I make sure that the new server is the same OS and DS level as the old server I can then copy most of the folders from SYS.MIG over and not have to re-install my applications. The folders that I make sure I don't copy over are SYS:\ETC and SYS:\SYSTEM\NICI. We haven't converted over to NDPS yet (that's this summers big project) so I can't comment on NDPS issues using the Migration Wizard... If you have any problems with Print Queues you can use ConsoleOne to find information on the Queue directory using the "Other" tab when viewing the properties of the Queue and either re-create the directory on the server or modify the information on the Queue itself. Or you can re-create the Queue if worse comes to worse. After the migration is done I then do any OS upgrades (eg 5.1 to 6) that I need to do. So far I have done about 5 servers this way in the past couple of years and have have very good success. Hope that helps. ___ Shane Schlosser Information Technology Services University College of the Fraser Valley schlossers at ucfv.bc.ca (604) 557-4007 >>> jgroetsema at uop.edu 02/18/03 08:12am >>> Shane, Thanks for your information! What method were you using before Migration Wizard and why did you start using it? Am I hearing you right, that you can use it while users are still onlin!?! How do you know what files were modified after the main copy? What's your experience with NDPS and/or ZEN using the Migration Wizard? This stuff is very helpfull, Thanks, Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu >>> schlossers at ucfv.bc.ca 02/17/03 04:52PM >>> We have been using the Migration Wizard for the last 4 server hardware upgrades and have been quite happy with it so far. It is very easy to use and it allows us to perform the file copy while the server is still in use (then a quicky copy of any files that were modified after the main copy took place). I haven't used the Migration Wizard to go to a new version of Netware so I can't comment on that part of it though. What I will do is install the new server in a temporary tree and patch it up to the same level of DS and Netware as the server I am going to migrate from. ___ Shane Schlosser Information Technology Services University College of the Fraser Valley schlossers at ucfv.bc.ca (604) 557-4007 >>> jgroetsema at uop.edu 02/17/03 04:37pm >>> All, We have new hardware to replace an aging server and I'd like to get the lists comments/recommendation on it's installation. Currently there are two points of view in our camp. 1. That the aging server should be replaced using across the wire migration (Wizard). 2. The new hardware should be installed and files and services manually migrated to it from the aging server. The aging server hosts Files services (65GB of home directory files, 7GB of installed apps, and 10GB of IT stuff), Print services (NDPS - 58 printers), ZEN, and is a R/W replica. Your comments of each method, or other methods, are greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From jlindblom at mico.com Tue Feb 18 17:45:27 2003 From: jlindblom at mico.com (jlindblom at mico.com) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 11:45:27 -0600 Subject: New server hardware Message-ID: If you shut off the printserver(s) servicing the queues they will migrate, it must have something to do with the queues locked. I migrated from NW5.0 to 6.0 with the Migration Wizard (latest version) and all queues migrated just fine. John Lindblom Network Administrator MICO, Inc. North Mankato, MN "Jeff Groetsema" To: Sent by: cc: novell-bounces at netla Subject: RE: New server hardware b1.usu.edu 02/18/2003 10:49 AM Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group Is it the case where the Migration Wizard does not support queue based printing? I know that some time ago when I used the "accross the wire migration" method, queue objects were disassociated from their printer and print server objects and the queues had to be recreated. Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu From rpcarroll at juno.com Tue Feb 18 18:20:07 2003 From: rpcarroll at juno.com (Robert Carroll) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 13:20:07 -0500 Subject: New server hardware References: Message-ID: <006001c2d77a$5ec8e000$0a01017b@E2K2Q6> Hi Jeff, I've performed a lot of hardware upgrades. When the old server had to stay up during the upgrade, copying the files and trustee rights to the new server, across the wire, is our usual approach. If this is a complete file server replacement, and not just disk upgrades, we almost always install the NOS, then connect it to the LAN, login to both servers and start copying. Copying files across the wire is a relatively slow process. But where the server could be down (such as overnight or over a weekend), our choice would be to image the old drive to the new using ServerMagic, then clean up disk, LAN, and other drivers in the STARTUP.NCF and AUTOEXEC.NCF files as necessary. With a completely new server, this is sometimes more trouble than it's worth, but it does cut down on the NOS installation time, and ALL files are copied. We could then expand partitions and volumes as desired. Obviously, this approach may be impractical with disk arrays, particularly when the controller cards are not identical. Drive imaging through Netware mirroring is another inexpensive approach which worked well for disk upgrades. The free utility RESIZE.EXE would then allow expansion of the Netware partition. Some suggestions may be Netware version-specific and disk hardware/file system-specific, but I don't see a description of your Netware version or types of drives (RAID array?). Best wishes, Bob Carroll, CPA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Groetsema" To: Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 7:37 PM Subject: New server hardware All, We have new hardware to replace an aging server and I'd like to get the lists comments/recommendation on it's installation. Currently there are two points of view in our camp. 1. That the aging server should be replaced using across the wire migration (Wizard). 2. The new hardware should be installed and files and services manually migrated to it from the aging server. The aging server hosts Files services (65GB of home directory files, 7GB of installed apps, and 10GB of IT stuff), Print services (NDPS - 58 printers), ZEN, and is a R/W replica. Your comments of each method, or other methods, are greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From jgroetsema at uop.edu Tue Feb 18 18:20:37 2003 From: jgroetsema at uop.edu (Jeff Groetsema) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 10:20:37 -0800 Subject: New server hardware Message-ID: John, How did that go using the Migration Wizard? Was this an in place migration or to new hardware as well? Thanks, Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu >>> jlindblom at mico.com 02/18/03 09:45AM >>> If you shut off the printserver(s) servicing the queues they will migrate, it must have something to do with the queues locked. I migrated from NW5.0 to 6.0 with the Migration Wizard (latest version) and all queues migrated just fine. John Lindblom Network Administrator MICO, Inc. North Mankato, MN "Jeff Groetsema" To: Sent by: cc: novell-bounces at netla Subject: RE: New server hardware b1.usu.edu 02/18/2003 10:49 AM Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group Is it the case where the Migration Wizard does not support queue based printing? I know that some time ago when I used the "accross the wire migration" method, queue objects were disassociated from their printer and print server objects and the queues had to be recreated. Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From jgroetsema at uop.edu Tue Feb 18 18:40:57 2003 From: jgroetsema at uop.edu (Jeff Groetsema) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 10:40:57 -0800 Subject: New server hardware Message-ID: Robert, Thanks for your reply. We are moving from a Dell 6200 with an internal array (45GB) running from a PERC1 (Power Edge Raid Controller) card and external array (72GB) running from a PERC2 card. This server is running NW5.1 SP5. The new server is a Dell 4600 with an internal array (252GB) running from a PERC3 card. We have the option of migrating to the new hardware on NW5.1 SP5 and upgrading to NW6 later, or migrating to NW6 in the process, or upgrading to NW6 and then doing the migration to new hardware (don't think the old hardware would stand up to this last option). Obviously you've done this a lot, do you have a reason for not using the Migration Wizard? Thanks, Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu >>> "Robert Carroll" 02/18/03 10:20AM >>> Hi Jeff, I've performed a lot of hardware upgrades. When the old server had to stay up during the upgrade, copying the files and trustee rights to the new server, across the wire, is our usual approach. If this is a complete file server replacement, and not just disk upgrades, we almost always install the NOS, then connect it to the LAN, login to both servers and start copying. Copying files across the wire is a relatively slow process. But where the server could be down (such as overnight or over a weekend), our choice would be to image the old drive to the new using ServerMagic, then clean up disk, LAN, and other drivers in the STARTUP.NCF and AUTOEXEC.NCF files as necessary. With a completely new server, this is sometimes more trouble than it's worth, but it does cut down on the NOS installation time, and ALL files are copied. We could then expand partitions and volumes as desired. Obviously, this approach may be impractical with disk arrays, particularly when the controller cards are not identical. Drive imaging through Netware mirroring is another inexpensive approach which worked well for disk upgrades. The free utility RESIZE.EXE would then allow expansion of the Netware partition. Some suggestions may be Netware version-specific and disk hardware/file system-specific, but I don't see a description of your Netware version or types of drives (RAID array?). Best wishes, Bob Carroll, CPA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Groetsema" To: Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 7:37 PM Subject: New server hardware All, We have new hardware to replace an aging server and I'd like to get the lists comments/recommendation on it's installation. Currently there are two points of view in our camp. 1. That the aging server should be replaced using across the wire migration (Wizard). 2. The new hardware should be installed and files and services manually migrated to it from the aging server. The aging server hosts Files services (65GB of home directory files, 7GB of installed apps, and 10GB of IT stuff), Print services (NDPS - 58 printers), ZEN, and is a R/W replica. Your comments of each method, or other methods, are greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From jlindblom at mico.com Tue Feb 18 18:45:33 2003 From: jlindblom at mico.com (jlindblom at mico.com) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 12:45:33 -0600 Subject: New server hardware Message-ID: I migrated to new hardware. I have around 30 NDS queues (currently migrating to NDPS) and all made it over just fine. Definitely setup a lab to test the migration and of course read and understand all the steps involved before you do it in the production environment. John Lindblom Network Administrator MICO, Inc. North Mankato, MN "Jeff Groetsema" To: Sent by: cc: novell-bounces at netla Subject: RE: New server hardware b1.usu.edu 02/18/2003 12:20 PM Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group John, How did that go using the Migration Wizard? Was this an in place migration or to new hardware as well? Thanks, Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu >>> jlindblom at mico.com 02/18/03 09:45AM >>> If you shut off the printserver(s) servicing the queues they will migrate, it must have something to do with the queues locked. I migrated from NW5.0 to 6.0 with the Migration Wizard (latest version) and all queues migrated just fine. John Lindblom Network Administrator MICO, Inc. North Mankato, MN "Jeff Groetsema" To: Sent by: cc: novell-bounces at netla Subject: RE: New server hardware b1.usu.edu 02/18/2003 10:49 AM Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group Is it the case where the Migration Wizard does not support queue based printing? I know that some time ago when I used the "accross the wire migration" method, queue objects were disassociated from their printer and print server objects and the queues had to be recreated. Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From geoffc at YorkU.CA Tue Feb 18 18:49:35 2003 From: geoffc at YorkU.CA (Geoffrey Carman) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 13:49:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: New server hardware In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > We are moving from a Dell 6200 with an internal array (45GB) running > from a PERC1 (Power Edge Raid Controller) card and external array (72GB) > running from a PERC2 card. This server is running NW5.1 SP5. The new > server is a Dell 4600 with an internal array (252GB) running from a > PERC3 card. We have the option of migrating to the new hardware on Which Perc3? 3DC or 3Di? 3DC is the AMI/LSI card, for external use. the 3Di is the single chain internal... Reason I ask is, if you have a 3DC, make sure you are at controller Flash BIOS rev of 1.74 (3.27 shows up first at boot time, but Dellmgr.nlm reports on the 174 bit). There is an amazingly wierd bug in the below 1.72 BIOS's if you ever replace a drive in the RAID5 strip set. Update the BIOS and save yourself the bother!!! We got bit bad by it! One node in the cluster could mount the array, but never 2 at once. Update the bIOS, run a consistency check on a 13 X 72GB disk array took forever, but fixed it, oddly enough. From jgroetsema at uop.edu Tue Feb 18 18:51:18 2003 From: jgroetsema at uop.edu (Jeff Groetsema) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 10:51:18 -0800 Subject: New server hardware Message-ID: John, Thanks for the information. What led to your using the Migration Wizard for this? Did you have any NDPS printers set up before the migration, and if so, did they come across well? Thanks, Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu >>> jlindblom at mico.com 02/18/03 10:45AM >>> I migrated to new hardware. I have around 30 NDS queues (currently migrating to NDPS) and all made it over just fine. Definitely setup a lab to test the migration and of course read and understand all the steps involved before you do it in the production environment. John Lindblom Network Administrator MICO, Inc. North Mankato, MN "Jeff Groetsema" To: Sent by: cc: novell-bounces at netla Subject: RE: New server hardware b1.usu.edu 02/18/2003 12:20 PM Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group John, How did that go using the Migration Wizard? Was this an in place migration or to new hardware as well? Thanks, Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu >>> jlindblom at mico.com 02/18/03 09:45AM >>> If you shut off the printserver(s) servicing the queues they will migrate, it must have something to do with the queues locked. I migrated from NW5.0 to 6.0 with the Migration Wizard (latest version) and all queues migrated just fine. John Lindblom Network Administrator MICO, Inc. North Mankato, MN "Jeff Groetsema" To: Sent by: cc: novell-bounces at netla Subject: RE: New server hardware b1.usu.edu 02/18/2003 10:49 AM Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group Is it the case where the Migration Wizard does not support queue based printing? I know that some time ago when I used the "accross the wire migration" method, queue objects were disassociated from their printer and print server objects and the queues had to be recreated. Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From jlindblom at mico.com Tue Feb 18 19:10:50 2003 From: jlindblom at mico.com (jlindblom at mico.com) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 13:10:50 -0600 Subject: New server hardware Message-ID: The other options available for a migration to new hardware and OS didn't sound good to me. I didn't want to do an inplace upgrade before or after the migration and I heard good things about the Migration Wizard and my testing made me feel comfortable with going ahead with it. I didn't have any NDPS printers before the migration but it sounds like others on the list have had no problems migrating NDPS. John Lindblom Network Administrator MICO, Inc. North Mankato, MN "Jeff Groetsema" To: Sent by: cc: novell-bounces at netla Subject: RE: New server hardware b1.usu.edu 02/18/2003 12:51 PM Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group John, Thanks for the information. What led to your using the Migration Wizard for this? Did you have any NDPS printers set up before the migration, and if so, did they come across well? Thanks, Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu >>> jlindblom at mico.com 02/18/03 10:45AM >>> I migrated to new hardware. I have around 30 NDS queues (currently migrating to NDPS) and all made it over just fine. Definitely setup a lab to test the migration and of course read and understand all the steps involved before you do it in the production environment. John Lindblom Network Administrator MICO, Inc. North Mankato, MN "Jeff Groetsema" To: Sent by: cc: novell-bounces at netla Subject: RE: New server hardware b1.usu.edu 02/18/2003 12:20 PM Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group John, How did that go using the Migration Wizard? Was this an in place migration or to new hardware as well? Thanks, Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu >>> jlindblom at mico.com 02/18/03 09:45AM >>> If you shut off the printserver(s) servicing the queues they will migrate, it must have something to do with the queues locked. I migrated from NW5.0 to 6.0 with the Migration Wizard (latest version) and all queues migrated just fine. John Lindblom Network Administrator MICO, Inc. North Mankato, MN "Jeff Groetsema" To: Sent by: cc: novell-bounces at netla Subject: RE: New server hardware b1.usu.edu 02/18/2003 10:49 AM Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group Is it the case where the Migration Wizard does not support queue based printing? I know that some time ago when I used the "accross the wire migration" method, queue objects were disassociated from their printer and print server objects and the queues had to be recreated. Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From John at coastal.edu Tue Feb 18 19:14:26 2003 From: John at coastal.edu (John Hanna) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 14:14:26 -0500 Subject: New server hardware In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <00ab01c2d781$f6f79950$041478c7@ccu03722> This is what I experienced in earlier version of Migration Wizard when upgrading from NW3.x to 4.x, but when using the newest wizard to upgrade from 4.11 to 5.1, the Queue ojbects ID did not get changed and thus I did not have to recreate the queues. That was my main point of my original response. -----Original Message----- From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Jeff Groetsema Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 11:49 AM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: RE: New server hardware Is it the case where the Migration Wizard does not support queue based printing? I know that some time ago when I used the "accross the wire migration" method, queue objects were disassociated from their printer and print server objects and the queues had to be recreated. Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu >>> John at coastal.edu 02/18/03 08:30AM >>> I know that they are there and supported. That was the point of my message about the migration working. However NW 5.1 (NOT NW5.0) Manual and documentation state that bindery print queues are no longer supported. -----Original Message----- From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Randy Grein Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 10:28 AM To: Novell LAN Interest Group Subject: Re: New server hardware Dunno where you heard that queues aren't supported in 5.1 - they're there and supported. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From John at coastal.edu Tue Feb 18 19:17:05 2003 From: John at coastal.edu (John Hanna) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 14:17:05 -0500 Subject: New server hardware In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <00ac01c2d782$55cdb4a0$041478c7@ccu03722> In retrospect now though, I recall this was not an Across-the-wire migration. It was an In-place. Across-the-wire may still require the queues to be recreated. >This is what I experienced in earlier version of Migration Wizard when upgrading from NW3.x to 4.x, but when using the >newest wizard to upgrade from 4.11 to 5.1, the Queue ojbects ID did not get changed and thus I did not have to recreate >the queues. That was my main point of my original response. From Al.Bray at usdwp.msu.edu Tue Feb 18 19:50:20 2003 From: Al.Bray at usdwp.msu.edu (Al Bray) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 14:50:20 -0500 Subject: New server hardware Message-ID: When we used the Across-The-Wire option with the migration wizard, what I found was that in order for the legacy queues to come over, you need to make sure the printer/print servers are turned completely off so that they are not holding open/locking the queue directories. We had about 20 legacy print queues/printers/print servers. We had turned off all but 3 of them when we did the migration. After the migration all of the old legacy queues worked correctly except for those three printers that did not get turned off. Burried in the Migration Wizard log file was an error message indicating there was a problem with these queue directories. On my next Across-The-Wire migrations, I made sure every printer weres off and every time the old queues came over just fine. That was my experience anyway, you milage may very and very often does in this business. - Al =============================== Al Bray Systems Analyst University Services Michigan State University Phone: 517-355-0357 Ext. 161 Fax: 517-353-2024 email: bray at msu.edu >>> John at coastal.edu 02/18/03 02:17PM >>> In retrospect now though, I recall this was not an Across-the-wire migration. It was an In-place. Across-the-wire may still require the queues to be recreated. >This is what I experienced in earlier version of Migration Wizard when upgrading from NW3.x to 4.x, but when using the >newest wizard to upgrade from 4.11 to 5.1, the Queue ojbects ID did not get changed and thus I did not have to recreate >the queues. That was my main point of my original response. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: Al Bray.vcf URL: From jgroetsema at uop.edu Tue Feb 18 19:59:15 2003 From: jgroetsema at uop.edu (Jeff Groetsema) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 11:59:15 -0800 Subject: New server hardware Message-ID: Al, I'll ask you as I have asked many others on this list. What was your reasoning in using the Migration Wizard instead of other methods? Sound like you've used this method with great success. Thanks, Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu >>> Al.Bray at usdwp.msu.edu 02/18/03 11:50AM >>> When we used the Across-The-Wire option with the migration wizard, what I found was that in order for the legacy queues to come over, you need to make sure the printer/print servers are turned completely off so that they are not holding open/locking the queue directories. We had about 20 legacy print queues/printers/print servers. We had turned off all but 3 of them when we did the migration. After the migration all of the old legacy queues worked correctly except for those three printers that did not get turned off. Burried in the Migration Wizard log file was an error message indicating there was a problem with these queue directories. On my next Across-The-Wire migrations, I made sure every printer weres off and every time the old queues came over just fine. That was my experience anyway, you milage may very and very often does in this business. - Al =============================== Al Bray Systems Analyst University Services Michigan State University Phone: 517-355-0357 Ext. 161 Fax: 517-353-2024 email: bray at msu.edu >>> John at coastal.edu 02/18/03 02:17PM >>> In retrospect now though, I recall this was not an Across-the-wire migration. It was an In-place. Across-the-wire may still require the queues to be recreated. >This is what I experienced in earlier version of Migration Wizard when upgrading from NW3.x to 4.x, but when using the >newest wizard to upgrade from 4.11 to 5.1, the Queue ojbects ID did not get changed and thus I did not have to recreate >the queues. That was my main point of my original response. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From Al.Bray at usdwp.msu.edu Tue Feb 18 20:13:15 2003 From: Al.Bray at usdwp.msu.edu (Al Bray) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 15:13:15 -0500 Subject: New server hardware Message-ID: Our main reason was because we wanted the new server to maintain the same server identity in NDS instead of having a new server with a new name where we would have to touch client workstations and update Novell client properties (context/preferred server/etc) , print server objects, and in some cases DNS information. With all the additional services (Ifolder, Netstorage, Native File Access, etc) and all sorts of configuration information for these things getting burried in all sorts of text files and server parameter files, I just found it easier to do the across the wire migration to the new hardware rather than setting up a new server, putzing around with moving files around, restoring trustee assignments, resetting up printers, etc That stuff is all taken care of for you in the migration wizard. Really all I had to do was get the new hardware up and opperational with a TEMP TREE/TEMP name, connect my workstation to the two boxes and run through the steps that the Wizard guides you through. Majority of the time is a "Sit and wait" while the files system is moved over. >>> jgroetsema at uop.edu 02/18/03 02:59PM >>> Al, I'll ask you as I have asked many others on this list. What was your reasoning in using the Migration Wizard instead of other methods? Sound like you've used this method with great success. Thanks, Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu >>> Al.Bray at usdwp.msu.edu 02/18/03 11:50AM >>> When we used the Across-The-Wire option with the migration wizard, what I found was that in order for the legacy queues to come over, you need to make sure the printer/print servers are turned completely off so that they are not holding open/locking the queue directories. We had about 20 legacy print queues/printers/print servers. We had turned off all but 3 of them when we did the migration. After the migration all of the old legacy queues worked correctly except for those three printers that did not get turned off. Burried in the Migration Wizard log file was an error message indicating there was a problem with these queue directories. On my next Across-The-Wire migrations, I made sure every printer weres off and every time the old queues came over just fine. That was my experience anyway, you milage may very and very often does in this business. - Al =============================== Al Bray Systems Analyst University Services Michigan State University Phone: 517-355-0357 Ext. 161 Fax: 517-353-2024 email: bray at msu.edu >>> John at coastal.edu 02/18/03 02:17PM >>> In retrospect now though, I recall this was not an Across-the-wire migration. It was an In-place. Across-the-wire may still require the queues to be recreated. >This is what I experienced in earlier version of Migration Wizard when upgrading from NW3.x to 4.x, but when using the >newest wizard to upgrade from 4.11 to 5.1, the Queue ojbects ID did not get changed and thus I did not have to recreate >the queues. That was my main point of my original response. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From jgroetsema at uop.edu Tue Feb 18 20:39:56 2003 From: jgroetsema at uop.edu (Jeff Groetsema) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 12:39:56 -0800 Subject: New server hardware Message-ID: Thanks for the information. I believe we have the 3Di. I don't have the information in front of me so I'll have to check. If we have the 3DC, I'll keep this information close at hand. Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu >>> geoffc at YorkU.CA 02/18/03 10:49AM >>> > We are moving from a Dell 6200 with an internal array (45GB) running > from a PERC1 (Power Edge Raid Controller) card and external array (72GB) > running from a PERC2 card. This server is running NW5.1 SP5. The new > server is a Dell 4600 with an internal array (252GB) running from a > PERC3 card. We have the option of migrating to the new hardware on Which Perc3? 3DC or 3Di? 3DC is the AMI/LSI card, for external use. the 3Di is the single chain internal... Reason I ask is, if you have a 3DC, make sure you are at controller Flash BIOS rev of 1.74 (3.27 shows up first at boot time, but Dellmgr.nlm reports on the 174 bit). There is an amazingly wierd bug in the below 1.72 BIOS's if you ever replace a drive in the RAID5 strip set. Update the BIOS and save yourself the bother!!! We got bit bad by it! One node in the cluster could mount the array, but never 2 at once. Update the bIOS, run a consistency check on a 13 X 72GB disk array took forever, but fixed it, oddly enough. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From zzz at mctc.mnscu.edu Wed Feb 19 00:23:49 2003 From: zzz at mctc.mnscu.edu (zzz) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:23:49 -0600 Subject: New server hardware Message-ID: >John, > >Thanks for the information. > >What led to your using the Migration Wizard for this? > >Did you have any NDPS printers set up before the migration, and if so, did they >come across well? I don't know how well NDPS "migrates", but NDPS stores most of the info in NDS. This is a big advantage of NDPS. We moved 100+ NDPS printers to a new NW6SP1 server without problems just by following the methods in the TIDs for moving NDPS to another server. If the printer migration fails, you have a good chance of being able to use the NDPS utilities to restore this from NDS. The only thing we really had to tinker a little with was moving the resource directory, probably because we did not read the TIDs closely regarding this part of the project. Thanks Dana >Thanks, > > >Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services >University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law >jgroetsema at uop.edu > >>>> jlindblom at mico.com 02/18/03 10:45AM >>> > >I migrated to new hardware. I have around 30 NDS queues (currently >migrating to NDPS) and all made it over just fine. > >Definitely setup a lab to test the migration and of course read and >understand all the steps involved before you do it in the production >environment. > >John Lindblom >Network Administrator >MICO, Inc. >North Mankato, MN > > > > "Jeff Groetsema" > To: > Sent by: cc: > novell-bounces at netla Subject: RE: New server hardware > b1.usu.edu > > > 02/18/2003 12:20 PM > Please respond to > Novell LAN Interest > Group > > > > > > >John, > >How did that go using the Migration Wizard? Was this an in place migration >or to new hardware as well? > >Thanks, > > >Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services >University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law >jgroetsema at uop.edu > >>>> jlindblom at mico.com 02/18/03 09:45AM >>> > >If you shut off the printserver(s) servicing the queues they will migrate, >it must have something to do with the queues locked. I migrated from NW5.0 >to 6.0 with the Migration Wizard (latest version) and all queues migrated >just fine. > >John Lindblom >Network Administrator >MICO, Inc. >North Mankato, MN > > > > "Jeff Groetsema" > > To: > > > Sent by: cc: > > novell-bounces at netla Subject: RE: New server >hardware > b1.usu.edu > > > > > > > >Is it the case where the Migration Wizard does not support queue based >printing? I know that some time ago when I used the "accross the wire >migration" method, queue objects were disassociated from their printer and >print server objects and the queues had to be recreated. > > >Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services >University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law >jgroetsema at uop.edu > > From rpcarroll at juno.com Wed Feb 19 03:20:42 2003 From: rpcarroll at juno.com (Robert Carroll) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 22:20:42 -0500 Subject: New server hardware References: Message-ID: <006301c2d7c5$e4fb5180$0a01017b@E2K2Q6> Jeff, When you perform a lot of upgrades, we believe it takes more time to plan and use the Migration Wizard approach. Early versions of the MW were also flawed, many times forcing us to duplicate migration steps after MW failed. It's been pointed out on this list that the Migration Wizard is much improved, and it should certainly be considered by those who infrequently make such upgrades. However, it's not perfect, and there are sometimes messes to clean up after MW as well. The TIDs are filled with examples of such. Best wishes, Bob Carroll, CPA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Groetsema" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 1:40 PM Subject: Re: New server hardware Robert, Thanks for your reply. We are moving from a Dell 6200 with an internal array (45GB) running from a PERC1 (Power Edge Raid Controller) card and external array (72GB) running from a PERC2 card. This server is running NW5.1 SP5. The new server is a Dell 4600 with an internal array (252GB) running from a PERC3 card. We have the option of migrating to the new hardware on NW5.1 SP5 and upgrading to NW6 later, or migrating to NW6 in the process, or upgrading to NW6 and then doing the migration to new hardware (don't think the old hardware would stand up to this last option). Obviously you've done this a lot, do you have a reason for not using the Migration Wizard? Thanks, Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu >>> "Robert Carroll" 02/18/03 10:20AM >>> Hi Jeff, I've performed a lot of hardware upgrades. When the old server had to stay up during the upgrade, copying the files and trustee rights to the new server, across the wire, is our usual approach. If this is a complete file server replacement, and not just disk upgrades, we almost always install the NOS, then connect it to the LAN, login to both servers and start copying. Copying files across the wire is a relatively slow process. But where the server could be down (such as overnight or over a weekend), our choice would be to image the old drive to the new using ServerMagic, then clean up disk, LAN, and other drivers in the STARTUP.NCF and AUTOEXEC.NCF files as necessary. With a completely new server, this is sometimes more trouble than it's worth, but it does cut down on the NOS installation time, and ALL files are copied. We could then expand partitions and volumes as desired. Obviously, this approach may be impractical with disk arrays, particularly when the controller cards are not identical. Drive imaging through Netware mirroring is another inexpensive approach which worked well for disk upgrades. The free utility RESIZE.EXE would then allow expansion of the Netware partition. Some suggestions may be Netware version-specific and disk hardware/file system-specific, but I don't see a description of your Netware version or types of drives (RAID array?). Best wishes, Bob Carroll, CPA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Groetsema" To: Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 7:37 PM Subject: New server hardware All, We have new hardware to replace an aging server and I'd like to get the lists comments/recommendation on it's installation. Currently there are two points of view in our camp. 1. That the aging server should be replaced using across the wire migration (Wizard). 2. The new hardware should be installed and files and services manually migrated to it from the aging server. The aging server hosts Files services (65GB of home directory files, 7GB of installed apps, and 10GB of IT stuff), Print services (NDPS - 58 printers), ZEN, and is a R/W replica. Your comments of each method, or other methods, are greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From zzz at mctc.mnscu.edu Wed Feb 19 03:58:49 2003 From: zzz at mctc.mnscu.edu (zzz) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 21:58:49 -0600 Subject: New server hardware Message-ID: Robert, Your comments are well stated IMHO. I have not used the MW for some time, so maybe it works better now. Anyway, I plan most of our upgrades "backwards" and using old fashioned methods for worst case scenario. I start with figuring out how we can do everything with new server installs into the tree, and relying on tape backups, manual copies, etc to restore data, apps, etc. But I usually have some spare temp servers to work with. This provides for a cleaner new server installation and, with proper planning, the ability to back out to the old server. This continues to be my preferred method, even though we tinker with MW in the lab. Again, I have not tryed the recent MW versions in production, so take all of this as a comment only. Thanks Dana >>> "Robert Carroll" 02/18/03 09:20PM >>> Jeff, When you perform a lot of upgrades, we believe it takes more time to plan and use the Migration Wizard approach. Early versions of the MW were also flawed, many times forcing us to duplicate migration steps after MW failed. It's been pointed out on this list that the Migration Wizard is much improved, and it should certainly be considered by those who infrequently make such upgrades. However, it's not perfect, and there are sometimes messes to clean up after MW as well. The TIDs are filled with examples of such. Best wishes, Bob Carroll, CPA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Groetsema" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 1:40 PM Subject: Re: New server hardware Robert, Thanks for your reply. We are moving from a Dell 6200 with an internal array (45GB) running from a PERC1 (Power Edge Raid Controller) card and external array (72GB) running from a PERC2 card. This server is running NW5.1 SP5. The new server is a Dell 4600 with an internal array (252GB) running from a PERC3 card. We have the option of migrating to the new hardware on NW5.1 SP5 and upgrading to NW6 later, or migrating to NW6 in the process, or upgrading to NW6 and then doing the migration to new hardware (don't think the old hardware would stand up to this last option). Obviously you've done this a lot, do you have a reason for not using the Migration Wizard? Thanks, Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu >>> "Robert Carroll" 02/18/03 10:20AM >>> Hi Jeff, I've performed a lot of hardware upgrades. When the old server had to stay up during the upgrade, copying the files and trustee rights to the new server, across the wire, is our usual approach. If this is a complete file server replacement, and not just disk upgrades, we almost always install the NOS, then connect it to the LAN, login to both servers and start copying. Copying files across the wire is a relatively slow process. But where the server could be down (such as overnight or over a weekend), our choice would be to image the old drive to the new using ServerMagic, then clean up disk, LAN, and other drivers in the STARTUP.NCF and AUTOEXEC.NCF files as necessary. With a completely new server, this is sometimes more trouble than it's worth, but it does cut down on the NOS installation time, and ALL files are copied. We could then expand partitions and volumes as desired. Obviously, this approach may be impractical with disk arrays, particularly when the controller cards are not identical. Drive imaging through Netware mirroring is another inexpensive approach which worked well for disk upgrades. The free utility RESIZE.EXE would then allow expansion of the Netware partition. Some suggestions may be Netware version-specific and disk hardware/file system-specific, but I don't see a description of your Netware version or types of drives (RAID array?). Best wishes, Bob Carroll, CPA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Groetsema" To: Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 7:37 PM Subject: New server hardware All, We have new hardware to replace an aging server and I'd like to get the lists comments/recommendation on it's installation. Currently there are two points of view in our camp. 1. That the aging server should be replaced using across the wire migration (Wizard). 2. The new hardware should be installed and files and services manually migrated to it from the aging server. The aging server hosts Files services (65GB of home directory files, 7GB of installed apps, and 10GB of IT stuff), Print services (NDPS - 58 printers), ZEN, and is a R/W replica. Your comments of each method, or other methods, are greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law jgroetsema at uop.edu _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From rgrein at nwlink.com Wed Feb 19 06:36:11 2003 From: rgrein at nwlink.com (Randy Grein) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 22:36:11 -0800 Subject: New server hardware In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <6F88AF3F-43D4-11D7-8ECA-0003937048F0@nwlink.com> You need to look at the readme and documentation on the migration wizard. It explicitly does not move anything in the server directories (like SYSTEM) because it's too tough to figure out which files are updates from a service pack and which ones need to be moved. That problem goes away if you're not changing versions, but then server magic becomes very attractive. On Tuesday, February 18, 2003, at 07:56 AM, Jeff Groetsema wrote: > When you say that I will have to reinsstall all my applications, what > applications are you referring to? ZEN? As far as user applications > (GW client, WordPerfect, etc.), I would expect that in either method, > they would come across with appropriate rights as well. Am I missing > something here? > > Thanks, > > > Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services > University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law > jgroetsema at uop.edu > >>>> rgrein at nwlink.com 02/18/03 06:54AM >>> > I've had good success with both methods. Manual moves are a pain with > printers (without something like JRB utilities), whereas if you use the > migration tool NDPS printers are pretty easy. Keep in mind that you > will have to reinstall all your applications regardless - the migration > does not move server files, just user data. > > On Monday, February 17, 2003, at 04:37 PM, Jeff Groetsema wrote: > >> All, >> >> We have new hardware to replace an aging server and I'd like to get >> the lists comments/recommendation on it's installation. >> >> Currently there are two points of view in our camp. >> >> 1. That the aging server should be replaced using across the wire >> migration (Wizard). >> >> 2. The new hardware should be installed and files and services >> manually migrated to it from the aging server. >> >> The aging server hosts Files services (65GB of home directory files, >> 7GB of installed apps, and 10GB of IT stuff), Print services (NDPS - >> 58 printers), ZEN, and is a R/W replica. >> >> Your comments of each method, or other methods, are greatly >> appreciated. >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services >> University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law >> jgroetsema at uop.edu >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Novell mailing list >> Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >> http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >> >> > Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA From lholling at microvell.com.au Wed Feb 19 07:06:19 2003 From: lholling at microvell.com.au (Leonard Holling) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 15:06:19 +0800 Subject: New server hardware In-Reply-To: <6F88AF3F-43D4-11D7-8ECA-0003937048F0@nwlink.com> References: <6F88AF3F-43D4-11D7-8ECA-0003937048F0@nwlink.com> Message-ID: <3E532CEB.6020502@microvell.com.au> ServerMagic is really only an option if you don't have NSS volumes. If you do then you need to take a look at Portlock Software's Storage Manager product. We use this to do all of our disk and/or server migrations. You have the added advantage that if something goes wrong you have the perfect backout plan of the original server / disks to go back to if your changeover window closes! Leonard... Randy Grein wrote: > You need to look at the readme and documentation on the migration > wizard. It explicitly does not move anything in the server directories > (like SYSTEM) because it's too tough to figure out which files are > updates from a service pack and which ones need to be moved. That > problem goes away if you're not changing versions, but then server magic > becomes very attractive. > > On Tuesday, February 18, 2003, at 07:56 AM, Jeff Groetsema wrote: > >> When you say that I will have to reinsstall all my applications, what >> applications are you referring to? ZEN? As far as user applications >> (GW client, WordPerfect, etc.), I would expect that in either method, >> they would come across with appropriate rights as well. Am I missing >> something here? >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services >> University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law >> jgroetsema at uop.edu >> >>>>> rgrein at nwlink.com 02/18/03 06:54AM >>> >> >> I've had good success with both methods. Manual moves are a pain with >> printers (without something like JRB utilities), whereas if you use the >> migration tool NDPS printers are pretty easy. Keep in mind that you >> will have to reinstall all your applications regardless - the migration >> does not move server files, just user data. >> >> On Monday, February 17, 2003, at 04:37 PM, Jeff Groetsema wrote: >> >>> All, >>> >>> We have new hardware to replace an aging server and I'd like to get >>> the lists comments/recommendation on it's installation. >>> >>> Currently there are two points of view in our camp. >>> >>> 1. That the aging server should be replaced using across the wire >>> migration (Wizard). >>> >>> 2. The new hardware should be installed and files and services >>> manually migrated to it from the aging server. >>> >>> The aging server hosts Files services (65GB of home directory files, >>> 7GB of installed apps, and 10GB of IT stuff), Print services (NDPS - >>> 58 printers), ZEN, and is a R/W replica. >>> >>> Your comments of each method, or other methods, are greatly >>> appreciated. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> >>> Jeff Groetsema, Manager of Network Services >>> University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law >>> jgroetsema at uop.edu >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Novell mailing list >>> Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >>> http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >>> >>> >> Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Novell mailing list >> Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >> http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Novell mailing list >> Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >> http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >> >> > Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > -- ____________________________________________________________________ Leonard Holling Business: Systems Engineer Private: Microvell Consulting Pty Ltd 2 Earnshaw Loop Leeming WA 6149 AUSTRALIA Tel: +61-418-927-922 From msmith at col-westanglia.ac.uk Wed Feb 19 09:03:02 2003 From: msmith at col-westanglia.ac.uk (Martyn Smith) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 09:03:02 -0000 Subject: W2K Workstation Time Service In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001801c2d7f5$b55aa090$8d0010ac@colwestanglia.ac.uk> I point it at the nearest NTP server (my single Novell time source). Martyn > -----Original Message----- > From: jlindblom at mico.com [mailto:jlindblom at mico.com] > Sent: 18 February 2003 17:10 > To: netw4l at mail.otherwhen.com; novell at netlab1.usu.edu > Subject: W2K Workstation Time Service > > > Workstation time is maintained by the Novell Client and the > NetWare server so the time service in W2K it is not > necessary. The only problems I can see with it running is the > errors it records in the event log and the minimal network > traffic when it tries to find a W2K DC to get time. > > What are you guy's doing with the W2K workstation time > service that starts by default? > > > John Lindblom > Network Administrator > MICO, Inc. > North Mankato, MN > > From admin at iaa.gov.il Wed Feb 19 10:05:07 2003 From: admin at iaa.gov.il (admin at iaa.gov.il) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:05:07 +0200 Subject: WARNING - Spammers stealing email addresses and performing unregister from listservs Message-ID: Morning all, Just a warning. I have just discovered that my email address was stolen from one of the novell lists I am a member of by a spammer called big at boss.com (This spammer is responsible for multiple viruses lately as sender), and has performed an unregister from the listserve as though I requested it. See the attached info and beware !!! Notice that the requester is not even from my email address, which only goes to show that Novell need to fix their listserve issues and fast before noone is left on them. Now go remember how the hell I registered for it, sheesh. The info is the following : ======================================================================= As you requested, you have been unsubscribed from 'cnenet_netware_5x'. --- Return-Path: Received: from MENA ([137.65.82.211]) by prv-listserv.provo.novell.com with SMTP (Lyris ListManager WIN32 version 6.0i); Wed, 19 Feb 2003 02:28:30 -0700 From: To: cnenet_netware_5x-request Subject: Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 9:37:13 -0000 Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="CSmtpMsgPart123X456_000_0030BEA5" # Mail sent to leave-cnenet_netware_5x-5829752l was converted to these commands: unsubscribe cnenet_netware_5x admin at iaa.gov.il confirm end # This is the text of the message that triggered the action: Return-Path: Received: from MENA ([137.65.82.211]) by prv-listserv.provo.novell.com with SMTP (Lyris ListManager WIN32 version 6.0i); Wed, 19 Feb 2003 02:28:30 -0700 From: To: Subject: Re: Document Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 9:37:13 -0000 Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="CSmtpMsgPart123X456_000_0030BEA5" This is a multipart message in MIME format --CSmtpMsgPart123X456_000_0030BEA5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Attached file: --CSmtpMsgPart123X456_000_0030BEA5-- Mike Glassman Head of System Security Computer & Information Systems Israeli Airports Authority Ben-Gurion Airport http://www.ben-gurion-airport.co.il Tel : 972-3-9710785 Fax : 972-3-9710939 Email : admin at iaa.gov.il Usage of this email address or any email address at iaa.gov.il for the purpose of sales pitches, SPAM or any other such unwanted garbage, is illegal, and any person, whether corporate or alone doing so, will be prosecuted to the fullest possible extent. From jlindblom at mico.com Wed Feb 19 15:19:56 2003 From: jlindblom at mico.com (jlindblom at mico.com) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 09:19:56 -0600 Subject: NDPS Printer Configurations Message-ID: I'm working on deploying NDPS here and I'm now at the point of dealing with replacing queue based printers on workstations. There has been mention of a product on the list called Printer Properties Pro, is anyone using this and if so, what are your thoughts on the software? It's reasonably priced so it would appear to be a no brainer if it worked as well as it's stated on there site. http://www.printerpropertiespro.com John Lindblom Network Administrator MICO, Inc. North Mankato, MN From guy at crossflight.co.uk Wed Feb 19 15:32:15 2003 From: guy at crossflight.co.uk (Guy Dawson) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 15:32:15 +0000 Subject: Netware and NDS over VPNs Message-ID: <3E53A37F.8050708@crossflight.co.uk> We currently run Netware V5.1 and NDS 7.something over a leased line to a remote office. At the main office we have two netware servers and the NDS master replica is on one. As the remote office we also have a server and a NDS replica. All this works well. We're looking at using a VPN to connect two sites and I want to ask if people have any experience of this - good or bad. Something that does worry me is the network latency. On the leased line a TCP/IP ping takes about 15 to 20 ms but on the sorts of VPN link we currently have a TCP/IP ping takes 80 to 10ms. Set-up recommendations gratefully received! TIA, Guy -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Guy Dawson I.T. Manager Crossflight Ltd guy at crossflight.co.uk 07973 797819 01753 776104 ********************************************************************** This email contains the views and opinions of a Crossflight Limited employee and at this stage are in no way a direct representation of Crossflight Limited. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. To ensure the integrity and appropriate use of its email system, Crossflight Limited reserves the right to examine any email held on its email system or sent to or from it. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. We strongly recomend that you check this email with your own virus software as Crossflight Limited will not be held responsible for any damage caused by viruses as a result of opening this email. ********************************************************************** From John at coastal.edu Wed Feb 19 15:46:24 2003 From: John at coastal.edu (John Hanna) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 10:46:24 -0500 Subject: WARNING - Spammers stealing email addresses and performing unregister from listservs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002301c2d82e$11ca6fd0$041478c7@ccu03722> We had a spell of users receiving attached viruses in e-mails with the FROM: header having this address. We quickly placed a block on our mail server of this domain. If you have capabilities, I would advise blocking "boss.com". It shows as a registered domain, but with no DNS servers and it does not resolve. -----Original Message----- From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of admin at iaa.gov.il Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 5:05 AM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: WARNING - Spammers stealing email addresses and performing unregister from listservs Importance: High Morning all, Just a warning. I have just discovered that my email address was stolen from one of the novell lists I am a member of by a spammer called big at boss.com (This spammer is responsible for multiple viruses lately as sender), and has performed an unregister from the listserve as though I requested it. See the attached info and beware !!! Notice that the requester is not even from my email address, which only goes to show that Novell need to fix their listserve issues and fast before noone is left on them. Now go remember how the hell I registered for it, sheesh. The info is the following : ======================================================================= As you requested, you have been unsubscribed from 'cnenet_netware_5x'. --- Return-Path: Received: from MENA ([137.65.82.211]) by prv-listserv.provo.novell.com with SMTP (Lyris ListManager WIN32 version 6.0i); Wed, 19 Feb 2003 02:28:30 -0700 From: To: cnenet_netware_5x-request Subject: Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 9:37:13 -0000 Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="CSmtpMsgPart123X456_000_0030BEA5" # Mail sent to leave-cnenet_netware_5x-5829752l was converted to these commands: unsubscribe cnenet_netware_5x admin at iaa.gov.il confirm end # This is the text of the message that triggered the action: Return-Path: Received: from MENA ([137.65.82.211]) by prv-listserv.provo.novell.com with SMTP (Lyris ListManager WIN32 version 6.0i); Wed, 19 Feb 2003 02:28:30 -0700 From: To: Subject: Re: Document Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 9:37:13 -0000 Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="CSmtpMsgPart123X456_000_0030BEA5" This is a multipart message in MIME format --CSmtpMsgPart123X456_000_0030BEA5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Attached file: --CSmtpMsgPart123X456_000_0030BEA5-- Mike Glassman Head of System Security Computer & Information Systems Israeli Airports Authority Ben-Gurion Airport http://www.ben-gurion-airport.co.il Tel : 972-3-9710785 Fax : 972-3-9710939 Email : admin at iaa.gov.il Usage of this email address or any email address at iaa.gov.il for the purpose of sales pitches, SPAM or any other such unwanted garbage, is illegal, and any person, whether corporate or alone doing so, will be prosecuted to the fullest possible extent. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From John at coastal.edu Wed Feb 19 15:49:15 2003 From: John at coastal.edu (John Hanna) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 10:49:15 -0500 Subject: UXP51 and SP5 Message-ID: <002401c2d82e$778b7a80$041478c7@ccu03722> We are still using UXP51 on a NW5.1 SP4 server. I am a little leary of installing SP5 without knowing if this works or not. It installed without a hitch on nw5.1, but if memory recollects, was a little tricky after SP3 and SP4. Is anyone successfully using this with SP5. I am probably going to setup a test server and try it, but wanted to hear from you guys that may be running it in the real world (as in not test world). John Hanna Network Services Manager Coastal Carolina University PO Box 261954 Conway, SC 29528-6054 Phone:(843)349-2150 Fax: (843)349-2990 Email: John at coastal.edu From dkearns at vquill.com Wed Feb 19 16:28:28 2003 From: dkearns at vquill.com (Dave Kearns) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 08:28:28 -0800 Subject: WARNING - Spammers stealing email addresses and performing unregister from listservs References: Message-ID: <039a01c2d833$efcb6050$6401a8c0@DadsDell> From: > > > Just a warning. > You were unsubscribed because of the address the mail was sent to ("Mail sent to leave-cnenet_netware_5x-5829752l ") not because of any intelligence on the part of the virus (not spam) message you received. See http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.sobig.a at mm .html (or http://shorterlink.com/?BLT3WA) -dave From greg at steadfast.ca Wed Feb 19 23:19:00 2003 From: greg at steadfast.ca (Greg Bembridge, CET, CNE, MCP) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 20:19:00 -0300 Subject: TSA Update Netware 4.2 Message-ID: <20030219T201912Z_85A200050000@steadfast.ca> Does anyone happen to know if there was a TSA update, after SP9A? Having some problems with Arcserve all of a sudden and they suggest a TSA update. Thanks, Greg Greg Bembridge, CET, CNE, MCP Steadfast Computer Network Services 14-4 Westwood Blvd, Suite 396 Upper Tantallon, Halifax County Nova Scotia B3Z 1H3 Tel/Fax: 902-826-2179 greg at steadfast.ca www.steadfast.ca From mlkollmorgan at comcast.net Thu Feb 20 01:52:37 2003 From: mlkollmorgan at comcast.net (Mike Kollmorgan) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 20:52:37 -0500 Subject: NDPS Message-ID: <007101c2d882$beb1d9f0$7101a8c0@lcs.com> Does NDPS support remote printers attached to a workstation such as NPTR95 did with Windows 9x. Thanks Mike Kollmorgan Logical Computer Solutions From dtran at ssc.ucla.edu Thu Feb 20 01:58:51 2003 From: dtran at ssc.ucla.edu (Daniel Tran) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 17:58:51 -0800 Subject: TSA Update Netware 4.2 In-Reply-To: <20030219T201912Z_85A200050000@steadfast.ca> Message-ID: <000701c2d883$9d58e7c0$49e56180@hp1> TSA5up9 is the current release version but I don't think it has update for 4.x TSAup10 and tsaup11 is beta and has 4/5/6 stuff. Anyway, go to support.novell.com - click on update - type in tsa and it will show you the list. Daniel Tran - dtran at ssc.ucla.edu > -----Original Message----- > From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu > [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Greg > Bembridge, CET, CNE, MCP > Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 3:19 PM > To: Listserv, Novell > Subject: TSA Update Netware 4.2 > > > Does anyone happen to know if there was a TSA update, after > SP9A? Having some problems with Arcserve all of a sudden and > they suggest a TSA update. > > Thanks, Greg > > Greg Bembridge, CET, CNE, MCP > Steadfast Computer Network Services > 14-4 Westwood Blvd, Suite 396 > Upper Tantallon, Halifax County > Nova Scotia B3Z 1H3 > Tel/Fax: 902-826-2179 > greg at steadfast.ca > www.steadfast.ca > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > From hbueno at optonline.net Thu Feb 20 03:24:31 2003 From: hbueno at optonline.net (HB) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 22:24:31 -0500 Subject: Netware and NDS over VPNs In-Reply-To: <3E53A37F.8050708@crossflight.co.uk> References: <3E53A37F.8050708@crossflight.co.uk> Message-ID: <3E544A6F.8050605@optonline.net> We have a remote office connected by VPN. Their pipe is 384k, main office is T-1. We have about 15 NW 5.1 eDir 8.6.2 servers, they have 3. Everything works quite nicely. DS is nice and healthy. Of course file access can be a bit slow, but the VPN is used mostly for email anyway. HB Guy Dawson wrote: > We currently run Netware V5.1 and NDS 7.something over a leased line to > a remote office. At the main office we have two netware servers and > the NDS master replica is on one. As the remote office we also have a > server and a NDS replica. All this works well. > > We're looking at using a VPN to connect two sites and I want to ask > if people have any experience of this - good or bad. > > Something that does worry me is the network latency. On the leased line > a TCP/IP ping takes about 15 to 20 ms but on the sorts of VPN link we > currently have a TCP/IP ping takes 80 to 10ms. > > Set-up recommendations gratefully received! > > TIA, > Guy > -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Guy Dawson I.T. Manager Crossflight Ltd > guy at crossflight.co.uk 07973 797819 01753 776104 > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > This email contains the views and opinions of a Crossflight Limited > employee and at this stage are in no way a direct representation of > Crossflight Limited. > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they > are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify > the system manager. To ensure the integrity and appropriate use of > its email system, Crossflight Limited reserves the right to examine > any email held on its email system or sent to or from it. > This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by > MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. > We strongly recomend that you check this email with your own virus > software as Crossflight Limited will not be held responsible for any > damage caused by viruses as a result of opening this email. > ********************************************************************** > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > From rgrein at nwlink.com Thu Feb 20 04:30:46 2003 From: rgrein at nwlink.com (Randy Grein) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 20:30:46 -0800 Subject: NDPS In-Reply-To: <007101c2d882$beb1d9f0$7101a8c0@lcs.com> Message-ID: <14F5011E-448C-11D7-AB4F-0003937048F0@nwlink.com> On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 05:52 PM, Mike Kollmorgan wrote: > Does NDPS support remote printers attached to a workstation such as > NPTR95 > did with Windows 9x. > > Thanks > > Mike Kollmorgan > Logical Computer Solutions > No. Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA From rgrein at nwlink.com Thu Feb 20 05:49:32 2003 From: rgrein at nwlink.com (Randy Grein) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 21:49:32 -0800 Subject: Netware and NDS over VPNs In-Reply-To: <3E53A37F.8050708@crossflight.co.uk> Message-ID: <15D78AA2-4497-11D7-AB4F-0003937048F0@nwlink.com> On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 07:32 AM, Guy Dawson wrote: > We currently run Netware V5.1 and NDS 7.something over a leased line to > a remote office. At the main office we have two netware servers and > the NDS master replica is on one. As the remote office we also have a > server and a NDS replica. All this works well. > > We're looking at using a VPN to connect two sites and I want to ask > if people have any experience of this - good or bad. > > Something that does worry me is the network latency. On the leased line > a TCP/IP ping takes about 15 to 20 ms but on the sorts of VPN link we > currently have a TCP/IP ping takes 80 to 10ms. > > Set-up recommendations gratefully received! 80 ms really isn't something to worry about. It's not like DNS will timeout because of that, and you're not transmitting that much information. I would suggest upgrading to NDS 8 - not only is it more robust but there are great tools like the WAN manager that let you economize further on traffic. It's not so much that you might overtax the WAN link, but you'll have less NDS synch retries. Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA From admin at iaa.gov.il Thu Feb 20 06:21:10 2003 From: admin at iaa.gov.il (admin at iaa.gov.il) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 08:21:10 +0200 Subject: WARNING - Spammers stealing email addresses and performing unregister from listservs Message-ID: Noone said anything about intelligence. I said beware because it's doing it. And I also said that Novell should set it's systems to know better then to try and delete someone from it's listservers when the email sender is so obviously: A. Not the registered person B. A well known virus address Mike -----Original Message----- From: Dave Kearns [mailto:dkearns at vquill.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 6:28 PM To: Novell LAN Interest Group Subject: Re: WARNING - Spammers stealing email addresses and performing unregister from listservs From: > > > Just a warning. > You were unsubscribed because of the address the mail was sent to ("Mail sent to leave-cnenet_netware_5x-5829752l ") not because of any intelligence on the part of the virus (not spam) message you received. See http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.sobig.a at mm .html (or http://shorterlink.com/?BLT3WA) -dave _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From lcerny at icomp.cz Thu Feb 20 07:11:00 2003 From: lcerny at icomp.cz (Lubos Cerny) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 8:11:00 +0100 Subject: Re(2x): Netware and NDS over VPNs Message-ID: <290453802E5441600@icomp.cz> We are using 4 branch offices connected by 64k VPN to central office. Running on NW 5.1 SP4 eDir. Works great also with DOS IPX only application. IPX is routed by SCMD between LANs by IP only VPN build on cisco 1700 series. It works as email and csv data transport "machine" :-) It's realy cool to manage nds accounts from one place ... Lubos Cerny ICOMP AC s.r.o. Czech Republic > > >-----P?vodn? z?silka----- >Od: Randy Grein >Komu: Novell LAN Interest Group ; >Odesl?no: st?eda 19.02.03 21:49:32 >V?c: Re: Netware and NDS over VPNs > > >On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 07:32 AM, Guy Dawson wrote: > >> We currently run Netware V5.1 and NDS 7.something over a leased line to >> a remote office. At the main office we have two netware servers and >> the NDS master replica is on one. As the remote office we also have a >> server and a NDS replica. All this works well. >> >> We're looking at using a VPN to connect two sites and I want to ask >> if people have any experience of this - good or bad. >> >> Something that does worry me is the network latency. On the leased line >> a TCP/IP ping takes about 15 to 20 ms but on the sorts of VPN link we >> currently have a TCP/IP ping takes 80 to 10ms. >> >> Set-up recommendations gratefully received! > >80 ms really isn't something to worry about. It's not like DNS will >timeout because of that, and you're not transmitting that much >information. I would suggest upgrading to NDS 8 - not only is it more >robust but there are great tools like the WAN manager that let you >economize further on traffic. It's not so much that you might overtax >the WAN link, but you'll have less NDS synch retries. > >Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > From guy at crossflight.co.uk Thu Feb 20 11:43:33 2003 From: guy at crossflight.co.uk (Guy Dawson) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 11:43:33 +0000 Subject: Netware and NDS over VPNs References: <3E53A37F.8050708@crossflight.co.uk> <3E544A6F.8050605@optonline.net> Message-ID: <3E54BF65.2090803@crossflight.co.uk> HB wrote: > We have a remote office connected by VPN. Their pipe is 384k, main > office is T-1. We have about 15 NW 5.1 eDir 8.6.2 servers, they have 3. > Everything works quite nicely. DS is nice and healthy. Of course file > access can be a bit slow, but the VPN is used mostly for email anyway. We're looking at a very small branch office with just a couple of PCs and a 128K link back to the main office. We'll install a local server to hold application programs and local user data and print serve. May I ask what sort of round trip times you have for packets over the VPN connection? Guy -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Guy Dawson I.T. Manager Crossflight Ltd guy at crossflight.co.uk 07973 797819 01753 776104 ********************************************************************** This email contains the views and opinions of a Crossflight Limited employee and at this stage are in no way a direct representation of Crossflight Limited. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. To ensure the integrity and appropriate use of its email system, Crossflight Limited reserves the right to examine any email held on its email system or sent to or from it. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. We strongly recomend that you check this email with your own virus software as Crossflight Limited will not be held responsible for any damage caused by viruses as a result of opening this email. ********************************************************************** From mdlaat at muisnetwerken.nl Thu Feb 20 12:48:08 2003 From: mdlaat at muisnetwerken.nl (Maurice de Laat) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:48:08 +0100 Subject: NDPS In-Reply-To: <007101c2d882$beb1d9f0$7101a8c0@lcs.com>; from mlkollmorgan@comcast.net on Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 08:52:37PM -0500 References: <007101c2d882$beb1d9f0$7101a8c0@lcs.com> Message-ID: <20030220134808.A10295@www.extern-systeembeheer.nl> On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 08:52:37PM -0500, Mike Kollmorgan wrote: > Does NDPS support remote printers attached to a workstation such as NPTR95 > did with Windows 9x. TID 10060125 How can NDPS use a printer locally attached to windows 2000 -- Maurice de Laat From molm at cvxmck.edu.au Thu Feb 20 12:54:32 2003 From: molm at cvxmck.edu.au (Michael Mollard) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 22:54:32 +1000 Subject: How to make a server licence 'apply'? Message-ID: <3E555CA8.25698.100768A@localhost> I have had some licensing issues with our NW6sp2 site. I have just received an MLA licence from Novell. I have installed the licence in each container that has a server, and assigned it to that server. All other licences have been removed from the tree. All servers except one has used the new license. One server has '0 units in use' even though it is assigned to it. What is the process required to make the server 'grab' the new license? I have rebooted the server. Any ideas? From maryve1 at starpower.net Thu Feb 20 13:32:29 2003 From: maryve1 at starpower.net (Mary Van Engelen) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 08:32:29 -0500 Subject: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030220080907.00b1e4e8@pop.starpower.net> We've been seeing an increase in IP address conflicts since we started rolling out Win2K in November. Things were fine for a couple of months, but we started getting these conflicts in January and it's growing. It's usually a Win98 computer that reports the conflict. When we check the computer it's conflicting with, it's usually a Win2K computer. We will be keeping this mixture of Win98 and Win2K computers for awhile. There is a TID that notes the differences between how WinXP and Win2K handle DHCP. Is there a difference between Win98 and Win2K handles it ? The solution in the TID said to remove the two timing option handouts. I thought I would try that, however, we are not handing out timing options. Has anyone else seen this? Is there a fix for it? I've had this DHCP configuration running fine for over a year now with an IP address conflict maybe once every couple of months. NW 5.1 sp5 DHCP 3.12c TCPIP 5.91o (domestic - DHCP server is on box running BM 3.6) Thanks, Mary From bud at moldriteplastics.com Thu Feb 20 13:30:56 2003 From: bud at moldriteplastics.com (Bud Durland) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 08:30:56 -0500 Subject: Netvision Synchronicity vs. Novell Account Manager Message-ID: <3E54D890.4020607@moldriteplastics.com> The subject opens the discussion, I guess. The specific trouble I'm having with Synchronicity is that in order to be able to authenticate to a Win2K server, you have to change your NetWare password at least once (and only after a piece of client software has been loaded on the workstation). If a 2nd Windows server is brought into the mix after that, yet another password change is required to access that box. Can any list member(s) tell me if NAM works in a more seamless fashion? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Pinky, are you pondering whay I'm pondering?" "I think so, Brain, but really, me and Pippi Longstockings? I mean, what would the children look like?" ------------------------------------------------------------------- Bud Durland, CNE Mold-Rite Plastics Network Administrator http://www.mrpcap.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- From prandal at herefordshire.gov.uk Thu Feb 20 13:42:17 2003 From: prandal at herefordshire.gov.uk (Randal, Phil) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:42:17 -0000 Subject: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 Message-ID: <0EBC45FCABFC95428EBFC3A51B368C9551363B@jessica.herefordshire.gov.uk> What's your default DHCP lease duration? http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/10011979.htm points out DHCP problem with Windows 9x clients. See also http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q194790 - Win9x is not RFC2131-compliant. Try dishing out 100 day leases and see if the problem still occurs. Cheers, Phil --------------------------------------------- Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK > -----Original Message----- > From: Mary Van Engelen [mailto:maryve1 at starpower.net] > Sent: 20 February 2003 13:32 > To: Novell Discuss > Subject: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 > > > We've been seeing an increase in IP address conflicts since > we started > rolling out Win2K in November. Things were fine for a couple > of months, but > we started getting these conflicts in January and it's growing. It's > usually a Win98 computer that reports the conflict. When we check the > computer it's conflicting with, it's usually a Win2K > computer. We will be > keeping this mixture of Win98 and Win2K computers for awhile. > > There is a TID that notes the differences between how WinXP > and Win2K > handle DHCP. Is there a difference between Win98 and Win2K > handles it ? > The solution in the TID said to remove the two timing option > handouts. I > thought I would try that, however, we are not handing out > timing options. > > Has anyone else seen this? Is there a fix for it? I've had > this DHCP > configuration running fine for over a year now with an IP > address conflict > maybe once every couple of months. > > NW 5.1 sp5 > DHCP 3.12c > TCPIP 5.91o (domestic - DHCP server is on box running BM 3.6) > > > Thanks, > Mary > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > From ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu Thu Feb 20 14:34:34 2003 From: ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:34:34 -0500 Subject: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 Message-ID: The TID you mention applies to a different issue, I think. If you do "release" then "renew" at the 98 box, does it get a new, non conflicting address? Try Microsoft Knowledge Base Article - 217035, to force the 98 boxes to release on shutdown. Another option is to make the assignments "permanent", so the same address is always given out to a given PC (based on MAC). This is in "subnet options". You do not have to know the MAC in advance, unless you want to hand out specific addresses to specific PC's (that would be "manual", not permanent). ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- Remember: once, everyone "Knew" the world was flat. --------------------------------------------------- >>> maryve1 at starpower.net 02/20/03 08:32AM >>> We've been seeing an increase in IP address conflicts since we started rolling out Win2K in November. Things were fine for a couple of months, but we started getting these conflicts in January and it's growing. It's usually a Win98 computer that reports the conflict. When we check the computer it's conflicting with, it's usually a Win2K computer. We will be keeping this mixture of Win98 and Win2K computers for awhile. There is a TID that notes the differences between how WinXP and Win2K handle DHCP. Is there a difference between Win98 and Win2K handles it ? The solution in the TID said to remove the two timing option handouts. I thought I would try that, however, we are not handing out timing options. Has anyone else seen this? Is there a fix for it? I've had this DHCP configuration running fine for over a year now with an IP address conflict maybe once every couple of months. NW 5.1 sp5 DHCP 3.12c TCPIP 5.91o (domestic - DHCP server is on box running BM 3.6) Thanks, Mary _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From Mark.Puchalski at honigman.com Thu Feb 20 15:00:06 2003 From: Mark.Puchalski at honigman.com (Mark Puchalski) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 10:00:06 -0500 Subject: 5.1 -> 6 Upgrade Failure (Response file) Message-ID: I'm trying to upgrade one of my NetWare 5.1/SP4 servers to NetWare 6 from the CD and I'm getting the following: user response file version doesn't match product version langsel: unable to proceed with installation error code = -1 The upgrade will go no further. Any idea how to fix this? Thank you. -------------------------------------------------------------- Mark A. 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URL: From ronald.stonehouse at ualberta.ca Thu Feb 20 15:14:08 2003 From: ronald.stonehouse at ualberta.ca (Ronald Stonehouse) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 08:14:08 -0700 Subject: NetWare 6 - Changing DNS Numbers Message-ID: <4.2.2.20030220080605.00bc7770@pop.srv.ualberta.ca> I have been fortunate enough to be allowed by my employer to take NetWare 6 home and install it as a stand alone server and the practice with it prior to having it installed in a production environment. When I did the initial install it requested up to three DNS server IP addresses. At the time I knew only one and entered an IP of one DNS servers and proceeded to finish the install. Now I would like to add more but I not sure how to do that without rebuilding the server from scratch. I'm a newbie to Netware 6 and don't know much about it so my knowledge is somewhat limited. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Ron Stonehouse ron.stonehouse at ualberta.ca From RWalters at compbenefits.com Thu Feb 20 15:15:36 2003 From: RWalters at compbenefits.com (Walters, Rob) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 10:15:36 -0500 Subject: NetWare 6 - Changing DNS Numbers Message-ID: <302969A5C153064EB227DB81E83F9FE2012C76C6@atlexchange.compdent.com> Edit the SYS:ETC\RESOLV.CFG file. It contains the IP addys of the DNS servers your server will use to resolve names. Rob -----Original Message----- From: Ronald Stonehouse [mailto:ronald.stonehouse at ualberta.ca] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 10:14 AM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: NetWare 6 - Changing DNS Numbers I have been fortunate enough to be allowed by my employer to take NetWare 6 home and install it as a stand alone server and the practice with it prior to having it installed in a production environment. When I did the initial install it requested up to three DNS server IP addresses. At the time I knew only one and entered an IP of one DNS servers and proceeded to finish the install. Now I would like to add more but I not sure how to do that without rebuilding the server from scratch. I'm a newbie to Netware 6 and don't know much about it so my knowledge is somewhat limited. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Ron Stonehouse ron.stonehouse at ualberta.ca _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From G.Ross at ccw.gov.uk Thu Feb 20 15:17:07 2003 From: G.Ross at ccw.gov.uk (Gordon Ross) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 15:17:07 +0000 Subject: NetWare 6 - Changing DNS Numbers Message-ID: DNS server info is stored in SYS:ETC\RESLOV.CFG GTG >>> ronald.stonehouse at ualberta.ca 20/02/2003 15:14:08 >>> I have been fortunate enough to be allowed by my employer to take NetWare 6 home and install it as a stand alone server and the practice with it prior to having it installed in a production environment. When I did the initial install it requested up to three DNS server IP addresses. At the time I knew only one and entered an IP of one DNS servers and proceeded to finish the install. Now I would like to add more but I not sure how to do that without rebuilding the server from scratch. I'm a newbie to Netware 6 and don't know much about it so my knowledge is somewhat limited. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Ron Stonehouse ron.stonehouse at ualberta.ca _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From JRD at cc.usu.edu Thu Feb 20 14:30:49 2003 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 08:30:49 -0600 (MDT) Subject: NetWare 6 - Changing DNS Numbers Message-ID: <01KSNKJSYMJCAYM1XE@cc.usu.edu> >I have been fortunate enough to be allowed by my employer to take NetWare 6 >home and install it as a stand alone server and the practice with it prior >to having it installed in a production environment. When I did the initial >install it requested up to three DNS server IP addresses. At the time I >knew only one and entered an IP of one DNS servers and proceeded to finish >the install. Now I would like to add more but I not sure how to do that >without rebuilding the server from scratch. > >I'm a newbie to Netware 6 and don't know much about it so my knowledge is >somewhat limited. Any help would be appreciated. > >Thanks > > >Ron Stonehouse >ron.stonehouse at ualberta.ca --------- It is very easy, and you will get a bit of useful information in the process. Here it is. After building the server it is rebooted. The first thing I do after a reboot is set the GUI screen resolution and then kill it. The second step is to run inetcfg and configure the lan adapter and protocol stacks. It is here that you change nameservers etc. Go through inetcfg totally, examine everything. Turn off IP RIP and OSPF, and likely forwarding. Then edit autoexec.ncf to comment out starting the GUI, and add loading of monitor. The overall process here is two fold. Get to know the utilities one needs to manage a server on a regular basis, and then explore them in detail (basically pay careful attention). Joe D. From smf34 at cam.ac.uk Thu Feb 20 16:37:57 2003 From: smf34 at cam.ac.uk (Simon Flood) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 16:37:57 +0000 Subject: 5.1 -> 6 Upgrade Failure (Response file) References: Message-ID: <3E550465.6A22512D@cam.ac.uk> On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 10:00:06 -0500 Mark Puchalski wrote: > I'm trying to upgrade one of my NetWare 5.1/SP4 servers to NetWare 6 > from the CD and I'm getting the following: > > user response file version doesn't match product version > langsel: unable to proceed with installation error code = -1 > > The upgrade will go no further. > > Any idea how to fix this? "user response file" would suggest a response.txt file exists somewhere on the boot drive and the NetWare installation program is attempting to use it instead of/in addition to the NetWare 6 one. Does response.txt exist in either c:\nwserver or c:\nwupdate perhaps? HTH Simon From Al.Bray at usdwp.msu.edu Thu Feb 20 17:31:46 2003 From: Al.Bray at usdwp.msu.edu (Al Bray) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 12:31:46 -0500 Subject: How to totally disable NCP on second NIC IP ADDRESS Message-ID: Configuration: Netware 6 SP2 with TCP 6.04.15 October 30, 2002 post sp2 update. Have two network cards installed in the server and IP bound to these cards each with their own individual IP address. For the sake of this discussion xxx.xxx.xxx.11 is the ip address of the first NIC that we want to with NCP only. xxx.xxx.xxx.18 is the ip address of the second NIC that we want to use with CIFS only. Used Server Paramaters in Monitor to set: NCP Exclude IP Addresses xxx.xxx.xxx.18 NCP Include IP Addresses xxx.xxx.xxx.11 I have also used Counsel One and ensured that CIFS is only running on the xxx.xxx.xxx.18 IP address Also have separate DNS entries which reslove to which resolve from different DNS names. For the sake of this discussion: NWSERVER resolves to xxx.xxx.xxx.11 W_NWSERVER resolves to xxx.xxx.xxx.18 Typing NCP Addresses at the server console shows: Known NCP Network Service Addresses (Network Order): [TCP] xxx.xxx.xxx.11 [UDP] xxx.xxx.xxx.11 (Notice this is not showing xxx.xxx.xxx.18 as running ncp However, if start up my Windows 2000 PC (running NWC 483 SP1 and the Netware Provider First in the Advance Setting on the Local Area Network), do a local logon to the workstation and type the following in Start Menu/RUN. \\xxx.xxx.xxx.18 I am presented with a Netware Client login dialog. How....why? If I do a netstat on my workstation I see W_NWSERVER:524 ESTABLISHED If NCP isn't running on xxx.xxx.xxx.18 (aka W_NWSERVER) how is this happening. - Al =============================== Al Bray Systems Analyst University Services Michigan State University Phone: 517-355-0357 Ext. 161 Fax: 517-353-2024 email: bray at msu.edu -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: Al Bray.vcf URL: From JRD at cc.usu.edu Thu Feb 20 16:47:05 2003 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 10:47:05 -0600 (MDT) Subject: How to totally disable NCP on second NIC IP ADDRESS Message-ID: <01KSNP8AJ3V6AYM241@cc.usu.edu> >Configuration: > >Netware 6 SP2 with TCP 6.04.15 October 30, 2002 post sp2 update. > >Have two network cards installed in the server and IP bound to these >cards each with their own individual IP address. > >For the sake of this discussion > >xxx.xxx.xxx.11 is the ip address of the first NIC that we want to with >NCP only. > >xxx.xxx.xxx.18 is the ip address of the second NIC that we want to use >with CIFS only. > >Used Server Paramaters in Monitor to set: > >NCP Exclude IP Addresses xxx.xxx.xxx.18 >NCP Include IP Addresses xxx.xxx.xxx.11 > >I have also used Counsel One and ensured that CIFS is only running on >the xxx.xxx.xxx.18 IP address > >Also have separate DNS entries which reslove to which resolve from >different DNS names. > >For the sake of this discussion: > >NWSERVER resolves to xxx.xxx.xxx.11 >W_NWSERVER resolves to xxx.xxx.xxx.18 > > >Typing NCP Addresses at the server console shows: > >Known NCP Network Service Addresses (Network Order): >[TCP] xxx.xxx.xxx.11 >[UDP] xxx.xxx.xxx.11 > >(Notice this is not showing xxx.xxx.xxx.18 as running ncp > >However, if start up my Windows 2000 PC (running NWC 483 SP1 and the >Netware Provider First in the Advance Setting on the Local Area >Network), do a local logon to the workstation and type the following in >Start Menu/RUN. > >\\xxx.xxx.xxx.18 > >I am presented with a Netware Client login dialog. > >How....why? > >If I do a netstat on my workstation I see > >W_NWSERVER:524 ESTABLISHED > >If NCP isn't running on xxx.xxx.xxx.18 (aka W_NWSERVER) how is this >happening. >- Al --------------- I dunno, but I can guess. The guess is the NCP code binds to all IP addresses on all interfaces by default and stays that way. To check use TCPCON at the console and examine the list of TCP listener processes and their addresses. When you do this keep in mind that your goal was to have different IP networks for each lan adapter. We can't see how that was done from your xxx.xxx description, but we presume they do differ in IP network assignment. If you believe that the broadbrush connectivity needs revision then why not write it up clearly and send it to Novell for consideration. Include some good reasons why and it may capture attention. Joe D. From Al.Bray at usdwp.msu.edu Thu Feb 20 18:39:18 2003 From: Al.Bray at usdwp.msu.edu (Al Bray) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:39:18 -0500 Subject: How to totally disable NCP on second NIC IP ADDRESS Message-ID: Hey there Joe, Thanks for the response. The goal wasn't necessarly to have separate IP networks, but really to have different protocols available on specific IP addresses within the same IP network/server. Ever since adding CIFS to our main server in addition to NCP, we have been having slow login/logouts especially when coupled with ZFD and roaming profiles . Windows XP even makes it works because it doesn't seem to honor the Provider order in many instances and tries Microsoft Client connectivity first (Not Novells fault I know). Our goal was to was to have CIFS protocol on one network card/ip address/DNS name, and our to have NCP on a second Network Card/IP Address/DNS name to help clear up the client/zen agent confusion and to hopefully get past the slow login/logout problem. Also hopefully would clear up some of the NMAS intruder lockout issues we are also seeing every since adding CIFS because sometimes clients are randomly attempting CIFS connections first before NCP. >From every indication of TIDS (10053676) and server parameters, binding NCP to specificy nics/ip addresses in the server is suppose to be possible. Otherwise why would there even be a set option to have NCP Exclude IP Addresses? Now, short of removing cifs so there can be no confusion, I'm not sure what to do if it's not possible. Thanks for your insight. And TCPCON does show the 524 listener on xxx.xxx.xxx.18. Dispite the Exclude settings. >>> JRD at cc.usu.edu 02/20/03 11:47AM >>> --------------- I dunno, but I can guess. The guess is the NCP code binds to all IP addresses on all interfaces by default and stays that way. To check use TCPCON at the console and examine the list of TCP listener processes and their addresses. When you do this keep in mind that your goal was to have different IP networks for each lan adapter. We can't see how that was done from your xxx.xxx description, but we presume they do differ in IP network assignment. If you believe that the broadbrush connectivity needs revision then why not write it up clearly and send it to Novell for consideration. Include some good reasons why and it may capture attention. Joe D. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From jlindblom at mico.com Thu Feb 20 19:13:12 2003 From: jlindblom at mico.com (jlindblom at mico.com) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:13:12 -0600 Subject: Netware and NDS over VPNs Message-ID: You might consider looking at thin client for that small office. This would allow you to manage all apps and data at a central location. Just another option. John Lindblom Network Administrator MICO, Inc. North Mankato, MN Guy Dawson uk> cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: Netware and NDS over VPNs novell-bounces at netla b1.usu.edu 02/20/2003 05:43 AM Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group HB wrote: > We have a remote office connected by VPN. Their pipe is 384k, main > office is T-1. We have about 15 NW 5.1 eDir 8.6.2 servers, they have 3. > Everything works quite nicely. DS is nice and healthy. Of course file > access can be a bit slow, but the VPN is used mostly for email anyway. We're looking at a very small branch office with just a couple of PCs and a 128K link back to the main office. We'll install a local server to hold application programs and local user data and print serve. May I ask what sort of round trip times you have for packets over the VPN connection? Guy -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Guy Dawson I.T. 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We strongly recomend that you check this email with your own virus software as Crossflight Limited will not be held responsible for any damage caused by viruses as a result of opening this email. ********************************************************************** _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From maryve1 at starpower.net Thu Feb 20 19:47:29 2003 From: maryve1 at starpower.net (Mary Van Engelen) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:47:29 -0500 Subject: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 In-Reply-To: <0EBC45FCABFC95428EBFC3A51B368C9551363B@jessica.herefordshi re.gov.uk> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030220143337.01eaaff8@pop.starpower.net> We've been using a 7-day lease for about 5 years now. This has always worked perfectly. We had lots of issues with the default (at that time) 3-day lease. We've also been using Win98 for a couple of years, with that being the only OS. So why now after all this time, would Win98 DHCP be a problem ? Among the issues we are seeing is the subnet mask on these machines is not the right one. In some cases, they got 255.0.0.0. In others, they got 255.255.255.0. The correct subnet mask is 255.255.0.0. Why could this be happening? What would 100-day leases do for (to?) me when we are re-imaging computers? If we reimage a computer about 15 days into a lease, leaving the same NIC in there, will it get the same IP address handed to it? Thanx, Mary At 2/20/2003 08:42 AM, Randal, Phil wrote: >What's your default DHCP lease duration? > >http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/10011979.htm points >out DHCP problem with Windows 9x clients. > >See also http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q194790 - >Win9x is not RFC2131-compliant. > >Try dishing out 100 day leases and see if the problem still occurs. > >Cheers, > >Phil > >--------------------------------------------- >Phil Randal >Network Engineer >Herefordshire Council >Hereford, UK > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mary Van Engelen [mailto:maryve1 at starpower.net] > > Sent: 20 February 2003 13:32 > > To: Novell Discuss > > Subject: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 > > > > > > We've been seeing an increase in IP address conflicts since > > we started > > rolling out Win2K in November. Things were fine for a couple > > of months, but > > we started getting these conflicts in January and it's growing. It's > > usually a Win98 computer that reports the conflict. When we check the > > computer it's conflicting with, it's usually a Win2K > > computer. We will be > > keeping this mixture of Win98 and Win2K computers for awhile. > > > > There is a TID that notes the differences between how WinXP > > and Win2K > > handle DHCP. Is there a difference between Win98 and Win2K > > handles it ? > > The solution in the TID said to remove the two timing option > > handouts. I > > thought I would try that, however, we are not handing out > > timing options. > > > > Has anyone else seen this? Is there a fix for it? I've had > > this DHCP > > configuration running fine for over a year now with an IP > > address conflict > > maybe once every couple of months. > > > > NW 5.1 sp5 > > DHCP 3.12c > > TCPIP 5.91o (domestic - DHCP server is on box running BM 3.6) > > > > > > Thanks, > > Mary > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Novell mailing list > > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From John at coastal.edu Thu Feb 20 21:04:23 2003 From: John at coastal.edu (John Hanna) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 16:04:23 -0500 Subject: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20030220143337.01eaaff8@pop.starpower.net> Message-ID: <000001c2d923$aea84020$041478c7@ccu03722> Are you 100% sure that someone else has not setup a DHCP server that is handing out mis-information. Believe it or not we had a professor here using one computer to proxy a private network he setup off of a second NIC he had in the computer. One day a bright student accidentally got the network lines reversed and his proxy that was also a DHCP started handing out ip addresses on our network. On another ocassion, a student plugged in a mac wireless bridge that did the same thing because it was misconfigure to run dhcp services on the network port instead of the wireless side. This may not be the case with you, but I have learned in my years of networking to never discount anything without researching the possibility. -----Original Message----- From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Mary Van Engelen Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 2:47 PM To: Novell LAN Interest Group Subject: RE: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 We've been using a 7-day lease for about 5 years now. This has always worked perfectly. We had lots of issues with the default (at that time) 3-day lease. We've also been using Win98 for a couple of years, with that being the only OS. So why now after all this time, would Win98 DHCP be a problem ? Among the issues we are seeing is the subnet mask on these machines is not the right one. In some cases, they got 255.0.0.0. In others, they got 255.255.255.0. The correct subnet mask is 255.255.0.0. Why could this be happening? What would 100-day leases do for (to?) me when we are re-imaging computers? If we reimage a computer about 15 days into a lease, leaving the same NIC in there, will it get the same IP address handed to it? Thanx, Mary At 2/20/2003 08:42 AM, Randal, Phil wrote: >What's your default DHCP lease duration? > >http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/10011979.htm >points out DHCP problem with Windows 9x clients. > >See also >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q194790 - Win9x >is not RFC2131-compliant. > >Try dishing out 100 day leases and see if the problem still occurs. > >Cheers, > >Phil > >--------------------------------------------- >Phil Randal >Network Engineer >Herefordshire Council >Hereford, UK > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mary Van Engelen [mailto:maryve1 at starpower.net] > > Sent: 20 February 2003 13:32 > > To: Novell Discuss > > Subject: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 > > > > > > We've been seeing an increase in IP address conflicts since we > > started rolling out Win2K in November. Things were fine for a couple > > of months, but > > we started getting these conflicts in January and it's growing. It's > > usually a Win98 computer that reports the conflict. When we check the > > computer it's conflicting with, it's usually a Win2K > > computer. We will be > > keeping this mixture of Win98 and Win2K computers for awhile. > > > > There is a TID that notes the differences between how WinXP and > > Win2K > > handle DHCP. Is there a difference between Win98 and Win2K > > handles it ? > > The solution in the TID said to remove the two timing option > > handouts. I thought I would try that, however, we are not handing > > out timing options. > > > > Has anyone else seen this? Is there a fix for it? I've had this > > DHCP configuration running fine for over a year now with an IP > > address conflict > > maybe once every couple of months. > > > > NW 5.1 sp5 > > DHCP 3.12c > > TCPIP 5.91o (domestic - DHCP server is on box running BM 3.6) > > > > > > Thanks, > > Mary > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Novell mailing list > > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From moby at mobsternet.com Thu Feb 20 21:16:45 2003 From: moby at mobsternet.com (Moby) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 15:16:45 -0600 Subject: Netvision Synchronicity vs. Novell Account Manager In-Reply-To: <3E54D890.4020607@moldriteplastics.com> Message-ID: <000c01c2d925$5f8eb300$4400a8c0@whou102mob3> NAM is totally seamless. However, NAM connects a Windows (NT or AD) domain with eDirectory. Are the servers you talk about below members of the same domain? --Moby -----Original Message----- From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Bud Durland Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 07:31 To: Netware List; Novell products technical discussion Subject: Netvision Synchronicity vs. Novell Account Manager The subject opens the discussion, I guess. The specific trouble I'm having with Synchronicity is that in order to be able to authenticate to a Win2K server, you have to change your NetWare password at least once (and only after a piece of client software has been loaded on the workstation). If a 2nd Windows server is brought into the mix after that, yet another password change is required to access that box. Can any list member(s) tell me if NAM works in a more seamless fashion? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Pinky, are you pondering whay I'm pondering?" "I think so, Brain, but really, me and Pippi Longstockings? I mean, what would the children look like?" ------------------------------------------------------------------- Bud Durland, CNE Mold-Rite Plastics Network Administrator http://www.mrpcap.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu Thu Feb 20 21:43:13 2003 From: ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 16:43:13 -0500 Subject: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 Message-ID: >We've been using a 7-day lease for about 5 years now. This has always >worked perfectly. We had lots of issues with the default (at that time) >3-day lease. > >We've also been using Win98 for a couple of years, with that being the >only >OS. So why now after all this time, would Win98 DHCP be a problem ? > >Among the issues we are seeing is the subnet mask on these machines is >not >the right one. In some cases, they got 255.0.0.0. In others, they >got 255.255.255.0. The correct subnet mask is 255.255.0.0. Why could >this >be happening? > This new nugget could make John's response on target. A quick way to check is via ipconfig /all (nt class) or winipcfg (9x class). Should provide the source DHCP servers address. joea/ From ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu Thu Feb 20 22:00:07 2003 From: ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 17:00:07 -0500 Subject: Apache authenication Message-ID: Is there any way to make Apache authenticate via a "basic" mechanism, as well as via "NDS"? Not the same directory/location, or virtual server, mind you. Just "at all"? That is, location "secure" is NDS/SSL, and location "not so secure" is via a generic login/non SSL? From maryve1 at starpower.net Thu Feb 20 22:02:33 2003 From: maryve1 at starpower.net (Mary Van Engelen) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 17:02:33 -0500 Subject: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 In-Reply-To: <000001c2d923$aea84020$041478c7@ccu03722> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20030220143337.01eaaff8@pop.starpower.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030220170045.00aaad78@pop.starpower.net> Ya know, that thought occurred to me. I have been assured by the Win2K server guy that there isn't a DHCP server on any of the Win2K servers. Is there a way to query the network to see if there is a DHCP server someplace? Mary At 2/20/2003 04:04 PM, John Hanna wrote: >Are you 100% sure that someone else has not setup a DHCP server that is >handing out mis-information. Believe it or not we had a professor here >using one computer to proxy a private network he setup off of a second >NIC he had in the computer. One day a bright student accidentally got >the network lines reversed and his proxy that was also a DHCP started >handing out ip addresses on our network. On another ocassion, a student >plugged in a mac wireless bridge that did the same thing because it was >misconfigure to run dhcp services on the network port instead of the >wireless side. > >This may not be the case with you, but I have learned in my years of >networking to never discount anything without researching the >possibility. > >-----Original Message----- >From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu >[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Mary Van Engelen >Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 2:47 PM >To: Novell LAN Interest Group >Subject: RE: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 > > >We've been using a 7-day lease for about 5 years now. This has always >worked perfectly. We had lots of issues with the default (at that time) >3-day lease. > >We've also been using Win98 for a couple of years, with that being the >only >OS. So why now after all this time, would Win98 DHCP be a problem ? > >Among the issues we are seeing is the subnet mask on these machines is >not >the right one. In some cases, they got 255.0.0.0. In others, they >got 255.255.255.0. The correct subnet mask is 255.255.0.0. Why could >this >be happening? > >What would 100-day leases do for (to?) me when we are re-imaging >computers? If we reimage a computer about 15 days into a lease, leaving > >the same NIC in there, will it get the same IP address handed to it? > >Thanx, >Mary > > >At 2/20/2003 08:42 AM, Randal, Phil wrote: > >What's your default DHCP lease duration? > > > >http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/10011979.htm > >points out DHCP problem with Windows 9x clients. > > > >See also > >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q194790 - Win9x > > >is not RFC2131-compliant. > > > >Try dishing out 100 day leases and see if the problem still occurs. > > > >Cheers, > > > >Phil > > > >--------------------------------------------- > >Phil Randal > >Network Engineer > >Herefordshire Council > >Hereford, UK > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Mary Van Engelen [mailto:maryve1 at starpower.net] > > > Sent: 20 February 2003 13:32 > > > To: Novell Discuss > > > Subject: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 > > > > > > > > > We've been seeing an increase in IP address conflicts since we > > > started rolling out Win2K in November. Things were fine for a couple > > > of months, but > > > we started getting these conflicts in January and it's growing. It's > > > usually a Win98 computer that reports the conflict. When we check >the > > > computer it's conflicting with, it's usually a Win2K > > > computer. We will be > > > keeping this mixture of Win98 and Win2K computers for awhile. > > > > > > There is a TID that notes the differences between how WinXP and > > > Win2K > > > handle DHCP. Is there a difference between Win98 and Win2K > > > handles it ? > > > The solution in the TID said to remove the two timing option > > > handouts. I thought I would try that, however, we are not handing > > > out timing options. > > > > > > Has anyone else seen this? Is there a fix for it? I've had this > > > DHCP configuration running fine for over a year now with an IP > > > address conflict > > > maybe once every couple of months. > > > > > > NW 5.1 sp5 > > > DHCP 3.12c > > > TCPIP 5.91o (domestic - DHCP server is on box running BM 3.6) > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Mary > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Novell mailing list > > > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > > > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Novell mailing list > >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From rgaspar at patlq.com Thu Feb 20 22:09:39 2003 From: rgaspar at patlq.com (Roland Gaspar) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 17:09:39 -0500 Subject: Apache authenication Message-ID: ..yes... http://httpd.apache.org/docs/howto/auth.html#satisfy ________________________ Roland Gaspar Tel.: (514) 398-7880 xt 8603 ICQ # 1355591 www.roland-gaspar.com >>> ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu 02/20/03 05:00PM >>> Is there any way to make Apache authenticate via a "basic" mechanism, as well as via "NDS"? Not the same directory/location, or virtual server, mind you. Just "at all"? That is, location "secure" is NDS/SSL, and location "not so secure" is via a generic login/non SSL? _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From DAtherton at affinitygroup.com Thu Feb 20 22:08:53 2003 From: DAtherton at affinitygroup.com (Dennis Atherton) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:08:53 -0800 Subject: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 Message-ID: <804FF696329FD31188F900508B55FA7804832F48@ca_exch.ventura.affinitygroup.com> Try Netdemon - that will allow you to scan your subnets, and look for any particular port use. http://www.netdemon.net/ -----Original Message----- From: Mary Van Engelen [mailto:maryve1 at starpower.net] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 2:03 PM To: Novell LAN Interest Group Cc: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 Ya know, that thought occurred to me. I have been assured by the Win2K server guy that there isn't a DHCP server on any of the Win2K servers. Is there a way to query the network to see if there is a DHCP server someplace? Mary At 2/20/2003 04:04 PM, John Hanna wrote: >Are you 100% sure that someone else has not setup a DHCP server that is >handing out mis-information. Believe it or not we had a professor here >using one computer to proxy a private network he setup off of a second >NIC he had in the computer. One day a bright student accidentally got >the network lines reversed and his proxy that was also a DHCP started >handing out ip addresses on our network. On another ocassion, a student >plugged in a mac wireless bridge that did the same thing because it was >misconfigure to run dhcp services on the network port instead of the >wireless side. > >This may not be the case with you, but I have learned in my years of >networking to never discount anything without researching the >possibility. > >-----Original Message----- >From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu >[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Mary Van Engelen >Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 2:47 PM >To: Novell LAN Interest Group >Subject: RE: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 > > >We've been using a 7-day lease for about 5 years now. This has always >worked perfectly. We had lots of issues with the default (at that time) >3-day lease. > >We've also been using Win98 for a couple of years, with that being the >only >OS. So why now after all this time, would Win98 DHCP be a problem ? > >Among the issues we are seeing is the subnet mask on these machines is >not >the right one. In some cases, they got 255.0.0.0. In others, they >got 255.255.255.0. The correct subnet mask is 255.255.0.0. Why could >this >be happening? > >What would 100-day leases do for (to?) me when we are re-imaging >computers? If we reimage a computer about 15 days into a lease, leaving > >the same NIC in there, will it get the same IP address handed to it? > >Thanx, >Mary > > >At 2/20/2003 08:42 AM, Randal, Phil wrote: > >What's your default DHCP lease duration? > > > >http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/10011979.htm > >points out DHCP problem with Windows 9x clients. > > > >See also > >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q194790 - Win9x > > >is not RFC2131-compliant. > > > >Try dishing out 100 day leases and see if the problem still occurs. > > > >Cheers, > > > >Phil > > > >--------------------------------------------- > >Phil Randal > >Network Engineer > >Herefordshire Council > >Hereford, UK > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Mary Van Engelen [mailto:maryve1 at starpower.net] > > > Sent: 20 February 2003 13:32 > > > To: Novell Discuss > > > Subject: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 > > > > > > > > > We've been seeing an increase in IP address conflicts since we > > > started rolling out Win2K in November. Things were fine for a couple > > > of months, but > > > we started getting these conflicts in January and it's growing. It's > > > usually a Win98 computer that reports the conflict. When we check >the > > > computer it's conflicting with, it's usually a Win2K > > > computer. We will be > > > keeping this mixture of Win98 and Win2K computers for awhile. > > > > > > There is a TID that notes the differences between how WinXP and > > > Win2K > > > handle DHCP. Is there a difference between Win98 and Win2K > > > handles it ? > > > The solution in the TID said to remove the two timing option > > > handouts. I thought I would try that, however, we are not handing > > > out timing options. > > > > > > Has anyone else seen this? Is there a fix for it? I've had this > > > DHCP configuration running fine for over a year now with an IP > > > address conflict > > > maybe once every couple of months. > > > > > > NW 5.1 sp5 > > > DHCP 3.12c > > > TCPIP 5.91o (domestic - DHCP server is on box running BM 3.6) > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Mary > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Novell mailing list > > > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > > > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Novell mailing list > >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From maryve1 at starpower.net Thu Feb 20 22:06:32 2003 From: maryve1 at starpower.net (Mary Van Engelen) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 17:06:32 -0500 Subject: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030220170307.01eab140@pop.starpower.net> Should have read your reply first. Thanks, Joe. I'll give that a try on the next one. Mary At 2/20/2003 04:43 PM, Joe Acquisto wrote: > >We've been using a 7-day lease for about 5 years now. This has always > >worked perfectly. We had lots of issues with the default (at that time) > >3-day lease. > > > >We've also been using Win98 for a couple of years, with that being the > >only > >OS. So why now after all this time, would Win98 DHCP be a problem ? > > > >Among the issues we are seeing is the subnet mask on these machines is > >not > >the right one. In some cases, they got 255.0.0.0. In others, they > >got 255.255.255.0. The correct subnet mask is 255.255.0.0. Why could > >this > >be happening? > > > >This new nugget could make John's response on target. A quick way to >check is via ipconfig /all (nt class) or winipcfg (9x class). Should >provide the source DHCP servers address. > >joea/ > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From rgaspar at patlq.com Thu Feb 20 22:14:21 2003 From: rgaspar at patlq.com (Roland Gaspar) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 17:14:21 -0500 Subject: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 Message-ID: if you have access to a sniffer, all you have to do is sniff during an IP release/renew, all visible DHCP servers should reply, a DHCP Request bcasts to 255.255.255.255 and takes the 1st DHAP ACK it sees that it likes, but they all should reply to the request... ________________________ Roland Gaspar Tel.: (514) 398-7880 xt 8603 ICQ # 1355591 www.roland-gaspar.com >>> maryve1 at starpower.net 02/20/03 05:02PM >>> Ya know, that thought occurred to me. I have been assured by the Win2K server guy that there isn't a DHCP server on any of the Win2K servers. Is there a way to query the network to see if there is a DHCP server someplace? Mary At 2/20/2003 04:04 PM, John Hanna wrote: >Are you 100% sure that someone else has not setup a DHCP server that is >handing out mis-information. Believe it or not we had a professor here >using one computer to proxy a private network he setup off of a second >NIC he had in the computer. One day a bright student accidentally got >the network lines reversed and his proxy that was also a DHCP started >handing out ip addresses on our network. On another ocassion, a student >plugged in a mac wireless bridge that did the same thing because it was >misconfigure to run dhcp services on the network port instead of the >wireless side. > >This may not be the case with you, but I have learned in my years of >networking to never discount anything without researching the >possibility. > >-----Original Message----- >From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu >[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Mary Van Engelen >Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 2:47 PM >To: Novell LAN Interest Group >Subject: RE: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 > > >We've been using a 7-day lease for about 5 years now. This has always >worked perfectly. We had lots of issues with the default (at that time) >3-day lease. > >We've also been using Win98 for a couple of years, with that being the >only >OS. So why now after all this time, would Win98 DHCP be a problem ? > >Among the issues we are seeing is the subnet mask on these machines is >not >the right one. In some cases, they got 255.0.0.0. In others, they >got 255.255.255.0. The correct subnet mask is 255.255.0.0. Why could >this >be happening? > >What would 100-day leases do for (to?) me when we are re-imaging >computers? If we reimage a computer about 15 days into a lease, leaving > >the same NIC in there, will it get the same IP address handed to it? > >Thanx, >Mary > > >At 2/20/2003 08:42 AM, Randal, Phil wrote: > >What's your default DHCP lease duration? > > > >http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/10011979.htm > >points out DHCP problem with Windows 9x clients. > > > >See also > >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q194790 - Win9x > > >is not RFC2131-compliant. > > > >Try dishing out 100 day leases and see if the problem still occurs. > > > >Cheers, > > > >Phil > > > >--------------------------------------------- > >Phil Randal > >Network Engineer > >Herefordshire Council > >Hereford, UK > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Mary Van Engelen [mailto:maryve1 at starpower.net] > > > Sent: 20 February 2003 13:32 > > > To: Novell Discuss > > > Subject: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 > > > > > > > > > We've been seeing an increase in IP address conflicts since we > > > started rolling out Win2K in November. Things were fine for a couple > > > of months, but > > > we started getting these conflicts in January and it's growing. It's > > > usually a Win98 computer that reports the conflict. When we check >the > > > computer it's conflicting with, it's usually a Win2K > > > computer. We will be > > > keeping this mixture of Win98 and Win2K computers for awhile. > > > > > > There is a TID that notes the differences between how WinXP and > > > Win2K > > > handle DHCP. Is there a difference between Win98 and Win2K > > > handles it ? > > > The solution in the TID said to remove the two timing option > > > handouts. I thought I would try that, however, we are not handing > > > out timing options. > > > > > > Has anyone else seen this? Is there a fix for it? I've had this > > > DHCP configuration running fine for over a year now with an IP > > > address conflict > > > maybe once every couple of months. > > > > > > NW 5.1 sp5 > > > DHCP 3.12c > > > TCPIP 5.91o (domestic - DHCP server is on box running BM 3.6) > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Mary > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Novell mailing list > > > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > > > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Novell mailing list > >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu Thu Feb 20 22:21:18 2003 From: ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 17:21:18 -0500 Subject: Apache authenication Message-ID: Ah, ha! RTFM'd again. I will look that over with avid interest as soon as I get over my shame. joea. (thanks, BTW). >>> rgaspar at patlq.com 02/20/03 05:09PM >>> ..yes... http://httpd.apache.org/docs/howto/auth.html#satisfy ________________________ Roland Gaspar Tel.: (514) 398-7880 xt 8603 ICQ # 1355591 www.roland-gaspar.com >>> ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu 02/20/03 05:00PM >>> Is there any way to make Apache authenticate via a "basic" mechanism, as well as via "NDS"? Not the same directory/location, or virtual server, mind you. Just "at all"? That is, location "secure" is NDS/SSL, and location "not so secure" is via a generic login/non SSL? _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu Thu Feb 20 22:26:10 2003 From: ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 17:26:10 -0500 Subject: Packet sniffing authentication Message-ID: I'm messing with a "web"ified app that is supposed to be able to authenicate. However, whenever I make enable authentication on the web server (apache), the app fails to do it's thing. If I disable authentication on the server and null out the credentials area in the app, things work. But, then, anyone can get in. So far, I see no difference in my packet traces of the two types of transactions, except for a "forbidden" response when authentication is enabled. I do not see where the server asks/demands credentials, nor do I see the app provide them. Where can I find a brief (good/concise) rundown on what I should see transpire? In a generic transaction of this sort, I mean. ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- Remember: once, everyone "Knew" the world was flat. --------------------------------------------------- From acquistj at lan.newpaltz.edu Thu Feb 20 22:36:49 2003 From: acquistj at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 17:36:49 -0500 Subject: Packet sniffing authentication Message-ID: Oops. I think this is related to an earlier post. Since I currently can only allow SSL or nothing, for authentication, and the app can only do http (not https) it appears I'm chasing a non problem. (it tries to access the page and the browser just responds, "No", as it should). Anyway, this requires a bit more work on my part. joea ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- Remember: once, everyone "Knew" the world was flat. --------------------------------------------------- >>> ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu 02/20/03 17:28 PM >>> I'm messing with a "web"ified app that is supposed to be able to authenicate. However, whenever I make enable authentication on the web server (apache), the app fails to do it's thing. If I disable authentication on the server and null out the credentials area in the app, things work. But, then, anyone can get in. So far, I see no difference in my packet traces of the two types of transactions, except for a "forbidden" response when authentication is enabled. I do not see where the server asks/demands credentials, nor do I see the app provide them. Where can I find a brief (good/concise) rundown on what I should see transpire? In a generic transaction of this sort, I mean. ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- Remember: once, everyone "Knew" the world was flat. --------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From acquistj at lan.newpaltz.edu Thu Feb 20 22:36:54 2003 From: acquistj at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 17:36:54 -0500 Subject: Packet sniffing authentication Message-ID: Oops. I think this is related to an earlier post. Since I currently can only allow SSL or nothing, for authentication, and the app can only do http (not https) it appears I'm chasing a non problem. (it tries to access the page and the browser just responds, "No", as it should). Anyway, this requires a bit more work on my part. joea ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- Remember: once, everyone "Knew" the world was flat. --------------------------------------------------- >>> ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu 02/20/03 17:28 PM >>> I'm messing with a "web"ified app that is supposed to be able to authenicate. However, whenever I make enable authentication on the web server (apache), the app fails to do it's thing. If I disable authentication on the server and null out the credentials area in the app, things work. But, then, anyone can get in. So far, I see no difference in my packet traces of the two types of transactions, except for a "forbidden" response when authentication is enabled. I do not see where the server asks/demands credentials, nor do I see the app provide them. Where can I find a brief (good/concise) rundown on what I should see transpire? In a generic transaction of this sort, I mean. ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- Remember: once, everyone "Knew" the world was flat. --------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From jsullivan at getthehatter.com Thu Feb 20 22:40:46 2003 From: jsullivan at getthehatter.com (Joe Sullivan) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 16:40:46 -0600 Subject: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 References: 158d Message-ID: <20030220T164046Z_424A00100000@getthehatter.com> If you do not have a sniffer, ( you could use www.ethereal.com) you can try using ipconfig (nt/2000) or winipcfg (95, 98). I'd be happy to look at any LAN traces you obtain. Joe >>> Roland Gaspar 02/20/2003 4:14:21 PM >>> if you have access to a sniffer, all you have to do is sniff during an IP release/renew, all visible DHCP servers should reply, a DHCP Request bcasts to 255.255.255.255 and takes the 1st DHAP ACK it sees that it likes, but they all should reply to the request... ________________________ Roland Gaspar Tel.: (514) 398-7880 xt 8603 ICQ # 1355591 www.roland-gaspar.com >>> maryve1 at starpower.net 02/20/03 05:02PM >>> Ya know, that thought occurred to me. I have been assured by the Win2K server guy that there isn't a DHCP server on any of the Win2K servers. Is there a way to query the network to see if there is a DHCP server someplace? Mary At 2/20/2003 04:04 PM, John Hanna wrote: >Are you 100% sure that someone else has not setup a DHCP server that is >handing out mis-information. Believe it or not we had a professor here >using one computer to proxy a private network he setup off of a second >NIC he had in the computer. One day a bright student accidentally got >the network lines reversed and his proxy that was also a DHCP started >handing out ip addresses on our network. On another ocassion, a student >plugged in a mac wireless bridge that did the same thing because it was >misconfigure to run dhcp services on the network port instead of the >wireless side. > >This may not be the case with you, but I have learned in my years of >networking to never discount anything without researching the >possibility. > >-----Original Message----- >From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu >[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Mary Van Engelen >Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 2:47 PM >To: Novell LAN Interest Group >Subject: RE: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 > > >We've been using a 7-day lease for about 5 years now. This has always >worked perfectly. We had lots of issues with the default (at that time) >3-day lease. > >We've also been using Win98 for a couple of years, with that being the >only >OS. So why now after all this time, would Win98 DHCP be a problem ? > >Among the issues we are seeing is the subnet mask on these machines is >not >the right one. In some cases, they got 255.0.0.0. In others, they >got 255.255.255.0. The correct subnet mask is 255.255.0.0. Why could >this >be happening? > >What would 100-day leases do for (to?) me when we are re-imaging >computers? If we reimage a computer about 15 days into a lease, leaving > >the same NIC in there, will it get the same IP address handed to it? > >Thanx, >Mary > > >At 2/20/2003 08:42 AM, Randal, Phil wrote: > >What's your default DHCP lease duration? > > > >http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/10011979.htm > >points out DHCP problem with Windows 9x clients. > > > >See also > >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q194790 - Win9x > > >is not RFC2131-compliant. > > > >Try dishing out 100 day leases and see if the problem still occurs. > > > >Cheers, > > > >Phil > > > >--------------------------------------------- > >Phil Randal > >Network Engineer > >Herefordshire Council > >Hereford, UK > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Mary Van Engelen [mailto:maryve1 at starpower.net] > > > Sent: 20 February 2003 13:32 > > > To: Novell Discuss > > > Subject: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 > > > > > > > > > We've been seeing an increase in IP address conflicts since we > > > started rolling out Win2K in November. Things were fine for a couple > > > of months, but > > > we started getting these conflicts in January and it's growing. It's > > > usually a Win98 computer that reports the conflict. When we check >the > > > computer it's conflicting with, it's usually a Win2K > > > computer. We will be > > > keeping this mixture of Win98 and Win2K computers for awhile. > > > > > > There is a TID that notes the differences between how WinXP and > > > Win2K > > > handle DHCP. Is there a difference between Win98 and Win2K > > > handles it ? > > > The solution in the TID said to remove the two timing option > > > handouts. I thought I would try that, however, we are not handing > > > out timing options. > > > > > > Has anyone else seen this? Is there a fix for it? I've had this > > > DHCP configuration running fine for over a year now with an IP > > > address conflict > > > maybe once every couple of months. > > > > > > NW 5.1 sp5 > > > DHCP 3.12c > > > TCPIP 5.91o (domestic - DHCP server is on box running BM 3.6) > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Mary > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Novell mailing list > > > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > > > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Novell mailing list > >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From bud at moldriteplastics.com Thu Feb 20 23:27:49 2003 From: bud at moldriteplastics.com (Bud Durland) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 18:27:49 -0500 Subject: Netvision Synchronicity vs. Novell Account Manager In-Reply-To: <000c01c2d925$5f8eb300$4400a8c0@whou102mob3> References: <000c01c2d925$5f8eb300$4400a8c0@whou102mob3> Message-ID: <3E556475.60003@moldriteplastics.com> Moby wrote: >NAM is totally seamless. However, NAM connects a Windows (NT or AD) domain >with eDirectory. Are the servers you talk about below members of the same >domain? > >--Moby > No; they are both configured as "stand alone" servers. In NT days, they would have been called "workgroup servers" I didn't mention it before, but my NetWare boxes are NW5.1/SP5, with eDir 8.6.2 -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Bud Durland, CNE bdurland at mrpcap.com fax: 518-561-0017 ---------------------------------------------------------------- For sale: Parachute. Like new, used once. Small stain. ---------------------------------------------------------------- From maryve1 at starpower.net Fri Feb 21 03:36:33 2003 From: maryve1 at starpower.net (Mary Van Engelen) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 22:36:33 -0500 Subject: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 In-Reply-To: <20030220T164046Z_424A00100000@getthehatter.com> References: <158d> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20030220223126.028a8268@pop.starpower.net> Thanks. Definitely appreciate the help. I do have Etherpeek, but not a lot of experience deciphering it. I'll give it a try tomorrow. Mary At 2/20/2003 05:40 PM, Joe Sullivan wrote: >If you do not have a sniffer, ( you could use www.ethereal.com) you can >try using ipconfig (nt/2000) or winipcfg (95, 98). I'd be happy to look at >any LAN traces you obtain. > >Joe > > > >>> Roland Gaspar 02/20/2003 4:14:21 PM >>> >if you have access to a sniffer, all you have to do is sniff during an >IP release/renew, all visible DHCP servers should reply, a DHCP Request >bcasts to 255.255.255.255 and takes the 1st DHAP ACK it sees that it >likes, but they all should reply to the request... > > > > >________________________ >Roland Gaspar >Tel.: (514) 398-7880 xt 8603 >ICQ # 1355591 >www.roland-gaspar.com > > > > >>> maryve1 at starpower.net 02/20/03 05:02PM >>> >Ya know, that thought occurred to me. I have been assured by the Win2K > >server guy that there isn't a DHCP server on any of the Win2K servers. >Is >there a way to query the network to see if there is a DHCP server >someplace? > >Mary > >At 2/20/2003 04:04 PM, John Hanna wrote: > >Are you 100% sure that someone else has not setup a DHCP server that >is > >handing out mis-information. Believe it or not we had a professor >here > >using one computer to proxy a private network he setup off of a >second > >NIC he had in the computer. One day a bright student accidentally >got > >the network lines reversed and his proxy that was also a DHCP started > >handing out ip addresses on our network. On another ocassion, a >student > >plugged in a mac wireless bridge that did the same thing because it >was > >misconfigure to run dhcp services on the network port instead of the > >wireless side. > > > >This may not be the case with you, but I have learned in my years of > >networking to never discount anything without researching the > >possibility. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu > >[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Mary Van Engelen > >Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 2:47 PM > >To: Novell LAN Interest Group > >Subject: RE: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 > > > > > >We've been using a 7-day lease for about 5 years now. This has always > >worked perfectly. We had lots of issues with the default (at that >time) > >3-day lease. > > > >We've also been using Win98 for a couple of years, with that being >the > >only > >OS. So why now after all this time, would Win98 DHCP be a problem ? > > > >Among the issues we are seeing is the subnet mask on these machines >is > >not > >the right one. In some cases, they got 255.0.0.0. In others, they > >got 255.255.255.0. The correct subnet mask is 255.255.0.0. Why >could > >this > >be happening? > > > >What would 100-day leases do for (to?) me when we are re-imaging > >computers? If we reimage a computer about 15 days into a lease, >leaving > > > >the same NIC in there, will it get the same IP address handed to it? > > > >Thanx, > >Mary > > > > > >At 2/20/2003 08:42 AM, Randal, Phil wrote: > > >What's your default DHCP lease duration? > > > > > >http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/10011979.htm > > > >points out DHCP problem with Windows 9x clients. > > > > > >See also > > >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q194790 - >Win9x > > > > >is not RFC2131-compliant. > > > > > >Try dishing out 100 day leases and see if the problem still occurs. > > > > > >Cheers, > > > > > >Phil > > > > > >--------------------------------------------- > > >Phil Randal > > >Network Engineer > > >Herefordshire Council > > >Hereford, UK > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Mary Van Engelen [mailto:maryve1 at starpower.net] > > > > Sent: 20 February 2003 13:32 > > > > To: Novell Discuss > > > > Subject: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 > > > > > > > > > > > > We've been seeing an increase in IP address conflicts since we > > > > started rolling out Win2K in November. Things were fine for a >couple > > > > of months, but > > > > we started getting these conflicts in January and it's growing. >It's > > > > usually a Win98 computer that reports the conflict. When we >check > >the > > > > computer it's conflicting with, it's usually a Win2K > > > > computer. We will be > > > > keeping this mixture of Win98 and Win2K computers for awhile. > > > > > > > > There is a TID that notes the differences between how WinXP and > > > > Win2K > > > > handle DHCP. Is there a difference between Win98 and Win2K > > > > handles it ? > > > > The solution in the TID said to remove the two timing option > > > > handouts. I thought I would try that, however, we are not >handing > > > > out timing options. > > > > > > > > Has anyone else seen this? Is there a fix for it? I've had >this > > > > DHCP configuration running fine for over a year now with an IP > > > > address conflict > > > > maybe once every couple of months. > > > > > > > > NW 5.1 sp5 > > > > DHCP 3.12c > > > > TCPIP 5.91o (domestic - DHCP server is on box running BM 3.6) > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mary > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Novell mailing list > > > > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > > > > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Novell mailing list > > >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Novell mailing list > >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Novell mailing list > >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From zzz at mctc.mnscu.edu Fri Feb 21 05:25:30 2003 From: zzz at mctc.mnscu.edu (zzz) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 23:25:30 -0600 Subject: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 Message-ID: My quick approach would be to go to the boxes with the problems and run ipconfig/all or winipcfg and see if the source IP address of the DHCP server is your "approved" DHCP server. I don't remember you mentioning this verificaton, but may have missed in this long thread. If it is a "rogue" DHCP server, it can be tracked through your switches by your network team to isolate. We see this from time to time. The only other problem I have seen that matches your scenario is DHCP registry keys that need to be deleted on the workstations. Thanks Dana >>> maryve1 at starpower.net 02/20/03 09:36PM >>> Thanks. Definitely appreciate the help. I do have Etherpeek, but not a lot of experience deciphering it. I'll give it a try tomorrow. Mary At 2/20/2003 05:40 PM, Joe Sullivan wrote: >If you do not have a sniffer, ( you could use www.ethereal.com) you can >try using ipconfig (nt/2000) or winipcfg (95, 98). I'd be happy to look at >any LAN traces you obtain. > >Joe > > > >>> Roland Gaspar 02/20/2003 4:14:21 PM >>> >if you have access to a sniffer, all you have to do is sniff during an >IP release/renew, all visible DHCP servers should reply, a DHCP Request >bcasts to 255.255.255.255 and takes the 1st DHAP ACK it sees that it >likes, but they all should reply to the request... > > > > >________________________ >Roland Gaspar >Tel.: (514) 398-7880 xt 8603 >ICQ # 1355591 >www.roland-gaspar.com > > > > >>> maryve1 at starpower.net 02/20/03 05:02PM >>> >Ya know, that thought occurred to me. I have been assured by the Win2K > >server guy that there isn't a DHCP server on any of the Win2K servers. >Is >there a way to query the network to see if there is a DHCP server >someplace? > >Mary > >At 2/20/2003 04:04 PM, John Hanna wrote: > >Are you 100% sure that someone else has not setup a DHCP server that >is > >handing out mis-information. Believe it or not we had a professor >here > >using one computer to proxy a private network he setup off of a >second > >NIC he had in the computer. One day a bright student accidentally >got > >the network lines reversed and his proxy that was also a DHCP started > >handing out ip addresses on our network. On another ocassion, a >student > >plugged in a mac wireless bridge that did the same thing because it >was > >misconfigure to run dhcp services on the network port instead of the > >wireless side. > > > >This may not be the case with you, but I have learned in my years of > >networking to never discount anything without researching the > >possibility. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu > >[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Mary Van Engelen > >Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 2:47 PM > >To: Novell LAN Interest Group > >Subject: RE: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 > > > > > >We've been using a 7-day lease for about 5 years now. This has always > >worked perfectly. We had lots of issues with the default (at that >time) > >3-day lease. > > > >We've also been using Win98 for a couple of years, with that being >the > >only > >OS. So why now after all this time, would Win98 DHCP be a problem ? > > > >Among the issues we are seeing is the subnet mask on these machines >is > >not > >the right one. In some cases, they got 255.0.0.0. In others, they > >got 255.255.255.0. The correct subnet mask is 255.255.0.0. Why >could > >this > >be happening? > > > >What would 100-day leases do for (to?) me when we are re-imaging > >computers? If we reimage a computer about 15 days into a lease, >leaving > > > >the same NIC in there, will it get the same IP address handed to it? > > > >Thanx, > >Mary > > > > > >At 2/20/2003 08:42 AM, Randal, Phil wrote: > > >What's your default DHCP lease duration? > > > > > >http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/10011979.htm > > > >points out DHCP problem with Windows 9x clients. > > > > > >See also > > >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q194790 - >Win9x > > > > >is not RFC2131-compliant. > > > > > >Try dishing out 100 day leases and see if the problem still occurs. > > > > > >Cheers, > > > > > >Phil > > > > > >--------------------------------------------- > > >Phil Randal > > >Network Engineer > > >Herefordshire Council > > >Hereford, UK > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Mary Van Engelen [mailto:maryve1 at starpower.net] > > > > Sent: 20 February 2003 13:32 > > > > To: Novell Discuss > > > > Subject: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 > > > > > > > > > > > > We've been seeing an increase in IP address conflicts since we > > > > started rolling out Win2K in November. Things were fine for a >couple > > > > of months, but > > > > we started getting these conflicts in January and it's growing. >It's > > > > usually a Win98 computer that reports the conflict. When we >check > >the > > > > computer it's conflicting with, it's usually a Win2K > > > > computer. We will be > > > > keeping this mixture of Win98 and Win2K computers for awhile. > > > > > > > > There is a TID that notes the differences between how WinXP and > > > > Win2K > > > > handle DHCP. Is there a difference between Win98 and Win2K > > > > handles it ? > > > > The solution in the TID said to remove the two timing option > > > > handouts. I thought I would try that, however, we are not >handing > > > > out timing options. > > > > > > > > Has anyone else seen this? Is there a fix for it? I've had >this > > > > DHCP configuration running fine for over a year now with an IP > > > > address conflict > > > > maybe once every couple of months. > > > > > > > > NW 5.1 sp5 > > > > DHCP 3.12c > > > > TCPIP 5.91o (domestic - DHCP server is on box running BM 3.6) > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mary > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Novell mailing list > > > > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > > > > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Novell mailing list > > >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Novell mailing list > >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Novell mailing list > >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list > n these machines >is > >nNovell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee Fri Feb 21 08:03:50 2003 From: toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee (Toomas Aas) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 10:03:50 +0200 Subject: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20030220223126.028a8268@pop.starpower.net> References: <20030220T164046Z_424A00100000@getthehatter.com> Message-ID: <200302210804.h1L84Z527584@lv.raad.tartu.ee> > I do have Etherpeek, but not a lot of experience deciphering it. > I'll give it a try tomorrow. Even better (no sniffing or lots of experience required) would be to get nmap from www.insecure.org/nmap and scan your network for port 67: nmap -sT -p 67 192.168.1.* nmap -sU -p 67 192.168.1.* -- Toomas Aas | toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee | http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/ * Be sure to use DEVICE=EXXON to screw up your environment. From jsullivan at getthehatter.com Fri Feb 21 08:32:34 2003 From: jsullivan at getthehatter.com (Joe Sullivan) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 02:32:34 -0600 Subject: How to totally disable NCP on second NIC IP ADDRESS References: 1578 Message-ID: <20030221T023234Z_424A00100000@getthehatter.com> Hi Al, What does a LAN trace show for the slow login issues? Also remember to use the SLP exclude address statement as well as the NCP exclude. You may want to look at 10074655. It talks about CIFS and name resolution problems in MUP (again). Joe >>> Al Bray 02/20/2003 12:39:18 PM >>> Hey there Joe, Thanks for the response. The goal wasn't necessarly to have separate IP networks, but really to have different protocols available on specific IP addresses within the same IP network/server. Ever since adding CIFS to our main server in addition to NCP, we have been having slow login/logouts especially when coupled with ZFD and roaming profiles . Windows XP even makes it works because it doesn't seem to honor the Provider order in many instances and tries Microsoft Client connectivity first (Not Novells fault I know). Our goal was to was to have CIFS protocol on one network card/ip address/DNS name, and our to have NCP on a second Network Card/IP Address/DNS name to help clear up the client/zen agent confusion and to hopefully get past the slow login/logout problem. Also hopefully would clear up some of the NMAS intruder lockout issues we are also seeing every since adding CIFS because sometimes clients are randomly attempting CIFS connections first before NCP. >From every indication of TIDS (10053676) and server parameters, binding NCP to specificy nics/ip addresses in the server is suppose to be possible. Otherwise why would there even be a set option to have NCP Exclude IP Addresses? Now, short of removing cifs so there can be no confusion, I'm not sure what to do if it's not possible. Thanks for your insight. And TCPCON does show the 524 listener on xxx.xxx.xxx.18. Dispite the Exclude settings. >>> JRD at cc.usu.edu 02/20/03 11:47AM >>> --------------- I dunno, but I can guess. The guess is the NCP code binds to all IP addresses on all interfaces by default and stays that way. To check use TCPCON at the console and examine the list of TCP listener processes and their addresses. When you do this keep in mind that your goal was to have different IP networks for each lan adapter. We can't see how that was done from your xxx.xxx description, but we presume they do differ in IP network assignment. If you believe that the broadbrush connectivity needs revision then why not write it up clearly and send it to Novell for consideration. Include some good reasons why and it may capture attention. Joe D. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From dbphilos at rz.uni-duesseldorf.de Fri Feb 21 10:53:02 2003 From: dbphilos at rz.uni-duesseldorf.de (Hans Nellissen) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:53:02 +0100 Subject: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20030220170045.00aaad78@pop.starpower.net> References: <000001c2d923$aea84020$041478c7@ccu03722> <5.1.0.14.2.20030220143337.01eaaff8@pop.starpower.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030221115224.02272d90@mail.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de> At 17:02 20.02.2003 -0500, you wrote: Mary, >Ya know, that thought occurred to me. I have been assured by the Win2K >server guy that there isn't a DHCP server on any of the Win2K servers. Is >there a way to query the network to see if there is a DHCP server someplace? Take a sniffer and scan for Port 67. Hans Nellissen ---------------------------------------------------------------- Heinrich-Heine-Universitaet Email:dbphilos at mail.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de Meinungsaeusserungen im vorliegenden Text stellen allein den Standpunkt des Autors dar und lassen keine Rueckschluesse auf seinen Arbeitgeber zu. Expressions of opinion in the available text represent only the point of view of the author and permit no conclusions on its employer. From pbowers at swrsb.ednet.ns.ca Fri Feb 21 12:20:51 2003 From: pbowers at swrsb.ednet.ns.ca (Peter Bowers) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 08:20:51 -0400 Subject: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 Message-ID: We have discovered that the Apple Airport wireless hub does DHCP by default, if someone sets one up on a network, some workstations will pick up their address from it, causing connectivity problems. Hope this helps, Peter Bowers, CNE Supervisor of Technology Services Southwest Regional School Board 541-3024 >>> rgaspar at patlq.com 2/20/2003 6:14:21 pm >>> if you have access to a sniffer, all you have to do is sniff during an IP release/renew, all visible DHCP servers should reply, a DHCP Request bcasts to 255.255.255.255 and takes the 1st DHAP ACK it sees that it likes, but they all should reply to the request... ________________________ Roland Gaspar Tel.: (514) 398-7880 xt 8603 ICQ # 1355591 www.roland-gaspar.com >>> maryve1 at starpower.net 02/20/03 05:02PM >>> Ya know, that thought occurred to me. I have been assured by the Win2K server guy that there isn't a DHCP server on any of the Win2K servers. Is there a way to query the network to see if there is a DHCP server someplace? Mary At 2/20/2003 04:04 PM, John Hanna wrote: >Are you 100% sure that someone else has not setup a DHCP server that is >handing out mis-information. Believe it or not we had a professor here >using one computer to proxy a private network he setup off of a second >NIC he had in the computer. One day a bright student accidentally got >the network lines reversed and his proxy that was also a DHCP started >handing out ip addresses on our network. On another ocassion, a student >plugged in a mac wireless bridge that did the same thing because it was >misconfigure to run dhcp services on the network port instead of the >wireless side. > >This may not be the case with you, but I have learned in my years of >networking to never discount anything without researching the >possibility. > >-----Original Message----- >From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu >[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Mary Van Engelen >Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 2:47 PM >To: Novell LAN Interest Group >Subject: RE: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 > > >We've been using a 7-day lease for about 5 years now. This has always >worked perfectly. We had lots of issues with the default (at that time) >3-day lease. > >We've also been using Win98 for a couple of years, with that being the >only >OS. So why now after all this time, would Win98 DHCP be a problem ? > >Among the issues we are seeing is the subnet mask on these machines is >not >the right one. In some cases, they got 255.0.0.0. In others, they >got 255.255.255.0. The correct subnet mask is 255.255.0.0. Why could >this >be happening? > >What would 100-day leases do for (to?) me when we are re-imaging >computers? If we reimage a computer about 15 days into a lease, leaving > >the same NIC in there, will it get the same IP address handed to it? > >Thanx, >Mary > > >At 2/20/2003 08:42 AM, Randal, Phil wrote: > >What's your default DHCP lease duration? > > > >http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/10011979.htm > >points out DHCP problem with Windows 9x clients. > > > >See also > >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q194790 - Win9x > > >is not RFC2131-compliant. > > > >Try dishing out 100 day leases and see if the problem still occurs. > > > >Cheers, > > > >Phil > > > >--------------------------------------------- > >Phil Randal > >Network Engineer > >Herefordshire Council > >Hereford, UK > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Mary Van Engelen [mailto:maryve1 at starpower.net] > > > Sent: 20 February 2003 13:32 > > > To: Novell Discuss > > > Subject: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 > > > > > > > > > We've been seeing an increase in IP address conflicts since we > > > started rolling out Win2K in November. Things were fine for a couple > > > of months, but > > > we started getting these conflicts in January and it's growing. It's > > > usually a Win98 computer that reports the conflict. When we check >the > > > computer it's conflicting with, it's usually a Win2K > > > computer. We will be > > > keeping this mixture of Win98 and Win2K computers for awhile. > > > > > > There is a TID that notes the differences between how WinXP and > > > Win2K > > > handle DHCP. Is there a difference between Win98 and Win2K > > > handles it ? > > > The solution in the TID said to remove the two timing option > > > handouts. I thought I would try that, however, we are not handing > > > out timing options. > > > > > > Has anyone else seen this? Is there a fix for it? I've had this > > > DHCP configuration running fine for over a year now with an IP > > > address conflict > > > maybe once every couple of months. > > > > > > NW 5.1 sp5 > > > DHCP 3.12c > > > TCPIP 5.91o (domestic - DHCP server is on box running BM 3.6) > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Mary > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Novell mailing list > > > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > > > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Novell mailing list > >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From John at coastal.edu Fri Feb 21 15:04:45 2003 From: John at coastal.edu (John Hanna) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 10:04:45 -0500 Subject: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 In-Reply-To: <20030220T164046Z_424A00100000@getthehatter.com> Message-ID: <000b01c2d9ba$94f761a0$041478c7@ccu03722> Can you get ethereal already compiled or is it only available in source code leaving the compiling to the user? -----Original Message----- From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Joe Sullivan Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 5:41 PM To: Novell LAN Interest Group Subject: RE: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 If you do not have a sniffer, ( you could use www.ethereal.com) you can try using ipconfig (nt/2000) or winipcfg (95, 98). I'd be happy to look at any LAN traces you obtain. Joe >>> Roland Gaspar 02/20/2003 4:14:21 PM >>> if you have access to a sniffer, all you have to do is sniff during an IP release/renew, all visible DHCP servers should reply, a DHCP Request bcasts to 255.255.255.255 and takes the 1st DHAP ACK it sees that it likes, but they all should reply to the request... ________________________ Roland Gaspar Tel.: (514) 398-7880 xt 8603 ICQ # 1355591 www.roland-gaspar.com >>> maryve1 at starpower.net 02/20/03 05:02PM >>> Ya know, that thought occurred to me. I have been assured by the Win2K server guy that there isn't a DHCP server on any of the Win2K servers. Is there a way to query the network to see if there is a DHCP server someplace? Mary At 2/20/2003 04:04 PM, John Hanna wrote: >Are you 100% sure that someone else has not setup a DHCP server that is >handing out mis-information. Believe it or not we had a professor here >using one computer to proxy a private network he setup off of a second >NIC he had in the computer. One day a bright student accidentally got >the network lines reversed and his proxy that was also a DHCP started >handing out ip addresses on our network. On another ocassion, a student >plugged in a mac wireless bridge that did the same thing because it was >misconfigure to run dhcp services on the network port instead of the >wireless side. > >This may not be the case with you, but I have learned in my years of >networking to never discount anything without researching the >possibility. > >-----Original Message----- >From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu >[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Mary Van Engelen >Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 2:47 PM >To: Novell LAN Interest Group >Subject: RE: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 > > >We've been using a 7-day lease for about 5 years now. This has always >worked perfectly. We had lots of issues with the default (at that time) >3-day lease. > >We've also been using Win98 for a couple of years, with that being the >only >OS. So why now after all this time, would Win98 DHCP be a problem ? > >Among the issues we are seeing is the subnet mask on these machines is >not >the right one. In some cases, they got 255.0.0.0. In others, they got >255.255.255.0. The correct subnet mask is 255.255.0.0. Why could >this >be happening? > >What would 100-day leases do for (to?) me when we are re-imaging >computers? If we reimage a computer about 15 days into a lease, leaving > >the same NIC in there, will it get the same IP address handed to it? > >Thanx, >Mary > > >At 2/20/2003 08:42 AM, Randal, Phil wrote: > >What's your default DHCP lease duration? > > > >http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/10011979.htm > >points out DHCP problem with Windows 9x clients. > > > >See also > >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q194790 - Win9x > > >is not RFC2131-compliant. > > > >Try dishing out 100 day leases and see if the problem still occurs. > > > >Cheers, > > > >Phil > > > >--------------------------------------------- > >Phil Randal > >Network Engineer > >Herefordshire Council > >Hereford, UK > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Mary Van Engelen [mailto:maryve1 at starpower.net] > > > Sent: 20 February 2003 13:32 > > > To: Novell Discuss > > > Subject: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 > > > > > > > > > We've been seeing an increase in IP address conflicts since we > > > started rolling out Win2K in November. Things were fine for a couple > > > of months, but > > > we started getting these conflicts in January and it's growing. It's > > > usually a Win98 computer that reports the conflict. When we check >the > > > computer it's conflicting with, it's usually a Win2K computer. We > > > will be keeping this mixture of Win98 and Win2K computers for > > > awhile. > > > > > > There is a TID that notes the differences between how WinXP and > > > Win2K > > > handle DHCP. Is there a difference between Win98 and Win2K > > > handles it ? > > > The solution in the TID said to remove the two timing option > > > handouts. I thought I would try that, however, we are not handing > > > out timing options. > > > > > > Has anyone else seen this? Is there a fix for it? I've had this > > > DHCP configuration running fine for over a year now with an IP > > > address conflict maybe once every couple of months. > > > > > > NW 5.1 sp5 > > > DHCP 3.12c > > > TCPIP 5.91o (domestic - DHCP server is on box running BM 3.6) > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Mary > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Novell mailing list > > > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > > > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Novell mailing list > >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From prandal at herefordshire.gov.uk Fri Feb 21 15:04:27 2003 From: prandal at herefordshire.gov.uk (Randal, Phil) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 15:04:27 -0000 Subject: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 Message-ID: <0EBC45FCABFC95428EBFC3A51B368C95513646@jessica.herefordshire.gov.uk> Just a few mouse clicks from the Ethereal homepage brings you to http://www.ethereal.com/distribution/win32/ Cheers, Phil --------------------------------------------- Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK > -----Original Message----- > From: John Hanna [mailto:John at coastal.edu] > Sent: 21 February 2003 15:05 > To: jsullivan at getthehatter.com; 'Novell LAN Interest Group' > Subject: RE: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 > > > Can you get ethereal already compiled or is it only available > in source > code leaving the compiling to the user? > > -----Original Message----- > From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu > [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Joe Sullivan > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 5:41 PM > To: Novell LAN Interest Group > Subject: RE: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 > > > If you do not have a sniffer, ( you could use > www.ethereal.com) you can > try using ipconfig (nt/2000) or winipcfg (95, 98). I'd be > happy to look > at any LAN traces you obtain. > > Joe > > > >>> Roland Gaspar 02/20/2003 4:14:21 PM >>> > if you have access to a sniffer, all you have to do is sniff during an > IP release/renew, all visible DHCP servers should reply, a > DHCP Request > bcasts to 255.255.255.255 and takes the 1st DHAP ACK it sees that it > likes, but they all should reply to the request... > > > > > ________________________ > Roland Gaspar > Tel.: (514) 398-7880 xt 8603 > ICQ # 1355591 > www.roland-gaspar.com > > > > >>> maryve1 at starpower.net 02/20/03 05:02PM >>> > Ya know, that thought occurred to me. I have been assured by the Win2K > > server guy that there isn't a DHCP server on any of the Win2K > servers. > Is > there a way to query the network to see if there is a DHCP server > someplace? > > Mary > > At 2/20/2003 04:04 PM, John Hanna wrote: > >Are you 100% sure that someone else has not setup a DHCP server that > is > >handing out mis-information. Believe it or not we had a professor > here > >using one computer to proxy a private network he setup off of a > second > >NIC he had in the computer. One day a bright student accidentally > got > >the network lines reversed and his proxy that was also a > DHCP started > >handing out ip addresses on our network. On another ocassion, a > student > >plugged in a mac wireless bridge that did the same thing because it > was > >misconfigure to run dhcp services on the network port instead of the > >wireless side. > > > >This may not be the case with you, but I have learned in my years of > >networking to never discount anything without researching the > >possibility. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu > >[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Mary Van Engelen > >Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 2:47 PM > >To: Novell LAN Interest Group > >Subject: RE: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 > > > > > >We've been using a 7-day lease for about 5 years now. This > has always > >worked perfectly. We had lots of issues with the default (at that > time) > >3-day lease. > > > >We've also been using Win98 for a couple of years, with that being > the > >only > >OS. So why now after all this time, would Win98 DHCP be a problem ? > > > >Among the issues we are seeing is the subnet mask on these machines > is > >not > >the right one. In some cases, they got 255.0.0.0. In > others, they got > > >255.255.255.0. The correct subnet mask is 255.255.0.0. Why > could > >this > >be happening? > > > >What would 100-day leases do for (to?) me when we are re-imaging > >computers? If we reimage a computer about 15 days into a lease, > leaving > > > >the same NIC in there, will it get the same IP address handed to it? > > > >Thanx, > >Mary > > > > > >At 2/20/2003 08:42 AM, Randal, Phil wrote: > > >What's your default DHCP lease duration? > > > > > > >http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/10011979.htm > > > >points out DHCP problem with Windows 9x clients. > > > > > >See also > > >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q194790 - > Win9x > > > > >is not RFC2131-compliant. > > > > > >Try dishing out 100 day leases and see if the problem still occurs. > > > > > >Cheers, > > > > > >Phil > > > > > >--------------------------------------------- > > >Phil Randal > > >Network Engineer > > >Herefordshire Council > > >Hereford, UK > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Mary Van Engelen [mailto:maryve1 at starpower.net] > > > > Sent: 20 February 2003 13:32 > > > > To: Novell Discuss > > > > Subject: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 > > > > > > > > > > > > We've been seeing an increase in IP address conflicts since we > > > > started rolling out Win2K in November. Things were fine for a > couple > > > > of months, but > > > > we started getting these conflicts in January and it's growing. > It's > > > > usually a Win98 computer that reports the conflict. When we > check > >the > > > > computer it's conflicting with, it's usually a Win2K > computer. We > > > > will be keeping this mixture of Win98 and Win2K computers for > > > > awhile. > > > > > > > > There is a TID that notes the differences between how WinXP and > > > > Win2K > > > > handle DHCP. Is there a difference between Win98 and Win2K > > > > handles it ? > > > > The solution in the TID said to remove the two timing option > > > > handouts. I thought I would try that, however, we are not > handing > > > > out timing options. > > > > > > > > Has anyone else seen this? Is there a fix for it? I've had > this > > > > DHCP configuration running fine for over a year now with an IP > > > > address conflict maybe once every couple of months. > > > > > > > > NW 5.1 sp5 > > > > DHCP 3.12c > > > > TCPIP 5.91o (domestic - DHCP server is on box running BM 3.6) > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mary > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Novell mailing list > > > > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > > > > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Novell mailing list > > >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Novell mailing list > >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Novell mailing list > >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > From msmith at col-westanglia.ac.uk Fri Feb 21 15:57:46 2003 From: msmith at col-westanglia.ac.uk (Martyn Smith) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 15:57:46 -0000 Subject: Apache authenication In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002301c2d9c1$f9b1f4a0$8d0010ac@colwestanglia.ac.uk> You can add a set of directives to any location This does not interfere with the rights assigned to any other location. E.g. Alias /manual/ "sys:/apache/htdocs/manual/" Options Indexes FollowSymlinks MultiViews AllowOverride None Order allow,deny Allow from all Theres a good doc on developernet - if I can just remember where... Martyn > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Acquisto [mailto:ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu] > Sent: 20 February 2003 22:00 > To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu > Subject: Apache authenication > > > Is there any way to make Apache authenticate via a "basic" > mechanism, as well as via "NDS"? > > Not the same directory/location, or virtual server, mind you. > Just "at all"? > > That is, location "secure" is NDS/SSL, and location "not so > secure" is via a generic login/non SSL? > > From WCOPELAN at ngwmail.des.state.mn.us Fri Feb 21 18:03:15 2003 From: WCOPELAN at ngwmail.des.state.mn.us (Wayne Copeland) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 12:03:15 -0600 Subject: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 Message-ID: A quick & dirty option - Stop your DHCP server and try to renew a lease. If it gets renewed (other than the MS 169.something.something.something. default) you have another DHCP server out there. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Copeland | (651) 297-3391 State of Minnesota | (651) 296-5745 (fax) 390 North Robert St. | wcopelan at ngwmail.des.state.mn.us Saint Paul, MN 55101 | ------------------------------ Opinions expressed are mine and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer! ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> prandal at herefordshire.gov.uk 2/21/03 9:04:27 AM >>> Just a few mouse clicks from the Ethereal homepage brings you to http://www.ethereal.com/distribution/win32/ Cheers, Phil --------------------------------------------- Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK > -----Original Message----- > From: John Hanna [mailto:John at coastal.edu] > Sent: 21 February 2003 15:05 > To: jsullivan at getthehatter.com; 'Novell LAN Interest Group' > Subject: RE: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 > > > Can you get ethereal already compiled or is it only available > in source > code leaving the compiling to the user? > > -----Original Message----- > From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu > [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Joe Sullivan > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 5:41 PM > To: Novell LAN Interest Group > Subject: RE: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 > > > If you do not have a sniffer, ( you could use > www.ethereal.com) you can > try using ipconfig (nt/2000) or winipcfg (95, 98). I'd be > happy to look > at any LAN traces you obtain. > > Joe > > > >>> Roland Gaspar 02/20/2003 4:14:21 PM >>> > if you have access to a sniffer, all you have to do is sniff during an > IP release/renew, all visible DHCP servers should reply, a > DHCP Request > bcasts to 255.255.255.255 and takes the 1st DHAP ACK it sees that it > likes, but they all should reply to the request... > > > > > ________________________ > Roland Gaspar > Tel.: (514) 398-7880 xt 8603 > ICQ # 1355591 > www.roland-gaspar.com > > > > >>> maryve1 at starpower.net 02/20/03 05:02PM >>> > Ya know, that thought occurred to me. I have been assured by the Win2K > > server guy that there isn't a DHCP server on any of the Win2K > servers. > Is > there a way to query the network to see if there is a DHCP server > someplace? > > Mary > > At 2/20/2003 04:04 PM, John Hanna wrote: > >Are you 100% sure that someone else has not setup a DHCP server that > is > >handing out mis-information. Believe it or not we had a professor > here > >using one computer to proxy a private network he setup off of a > second > >NIC he had in the computer. One day a bright student accidentally > got > >the network lines reversed and his proxy that was also a > DHCP started > >handing out ip addresses on our network. On another ocassion, a > student > >plugged in a mac wireless bridge that did the same thing because it > was > >misconfigure to run dhcp services on the network port instead of the > >wireless side. > > > >This may not be the case with you, but I have learned in my years of > >networking to never discount anything without researching the > >possibility. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu > >[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Mary Van Engelen > >Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 2:47 PM > >To: Novell LAN Interest Group > >Subject: RE: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 > > > > > >We've been using a 7-day lease for about 5 years now. This > has always > >worked perfectly. We had lots of issues with the default (at that > time) > >3-day lease. > > > >We've also been using Win98 for a couple of years, with that being > the > >only > >OS. So why now after all this time, would Win98 DHCP be a problem ? > > > >Among the issues we are seeing is the subnet mask on these machines > is > >not > >the right one. In some cases, they got 255.0.0.0. In > others, they got > > >255.255.255.0. The correct subnet mask is 255.255.0.0. Why > could > >this > >be happening? > > > >What would 100-day leases do for (to?) me when we are re-imaging > >computers? If we reimage a computer about 15 days into a lease, > leaving > > > >the same NIC in there, will it get the same IP address handed to it? > > > >Thanx, > >Mary > > > > > >At 2/20/2003 08:42 AM, Randal, Phil wrote: > > >What's your default DHCP lease duration? > > > > > > >http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/10011979.htm > > > >points out DHCP problem with Windows 9x clients. > > > > > >See also > > >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q194790 - > Win9x > > > > >is not RFC2131-compliant. > > > > > >Try dishing out 100 day leases and see if the problem still occurs. > > > > > >Cheers, > > > > > >Phil > > > > > >--------------------------------------------- > > >Phil Randal > > >Network Engineer > > >Herefordshire Council > > >Hereford, UK > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Mary Van Engelen [mailto:maryve1 at starpower.net] > > > > Sent: 20 February 2003 13:32 > > > > To: Novell Discuss > > > > Subject: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 > > > > > > > > > > > > We've been seeing an increase in IP address conflicts since we > > > > started rolling out Win2K in November. Things were fine for a > couple > > > > of months, but > > > > we started getting these conflicts in January and it's growing. > It's > > > > usually a Win98 computer that reports the conflict. When we > check > >the > > > > computer it's conflicting with, it's usually a Win2K > computer. We > > > > will be keeping this mixture of Win98 and Win2K computers for > > > > awhile. > > > > > > > > There is a TID that notes the differences between how WinXP and > > > > Win2K > > > > handle DHCP. Is there a difference between Win98 and Win2K > > > > handles it ? > > > > The solution in the TID said to remove the two timing option > > > > handouts. I thought I would try that, however, we are not > handing > > > > out timing options. > > > > > > > > Has anyone else seen this? Is there a fix for it? I've had > this > > > > DHCP configuration running fine for over a year now with an IP > > > > address conflict maybe once every couple of months. > > > > > > > > NW 5.1 sp5 > > > > DHCP 3.12c > > > > TCPIP 5.91o (domestic - DHCP server is on box running BM 3.6) > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mary From maryve1 at starpower.net Fri Feb 21 18:16:59 2003 From: maryve1 at starpower.net (Mary Van Engelen) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 13:16:59 -0500 Subject: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030221124554.01fca7d8@pop.starpower.net> Thanks, all, for the suggestions here. This morning I went to a test Win2K server (with the admin saying "Yes, it's turned off), and took a look at services. DHCP server WAS running. He had thought that if he hadn't configured it, he wasn't running it. Afterwards, we fired up Etherpeek and spanned ports on the Cisco switch to capture a release/renew. It took some work (including figuring out that we needed to capture UDP instead of TCP) but we finally got a filter that showed the conversation. The real DHCP server was the only one that responded. BTW, Etherpeek shows the DHCP request bcast as being from 0.0.0.0 and it sticks a note in the Summary field with the client's IP address. For curiosity's sake, we are going to come in early one morning next week (including the Win2K admin) and turn the DHCP service back on temporarily and capture a release/renew to see what happens. Maybe this explains why the real DHCP server isn't handing out addresses beyond the .31 address in the second IP address range. When I disabled the DHCP service on the Win2K server, I also disabled the DHCP client service and told him to configure the system with a static IP address. Am I correct that the DHCP client service is not needed if there is a static IP address? Thanks, Mary At 2/20/2003 05:14 PM, Roland Gaspar wrote: >if you have access to a sniffer, all you have to do is sniff during an >IP release/renew, all visible DHCP servers should reply, a DHCP Request >bcasts to 255.255.255.255 and takes the 1st DHAP ACK it sees that it >likes, but they all should reply to the request... > > > > >________________________ >Roland Gaspar >Tel.: (514) 398-7880 xt 8603 >ICQ # 1355591 >www.roland-gaspar.com > > > > >>> maryve1 at starpower.net 02/20/03 05:02PM >>> >Ya know, that thought occurred to me. I have been assured by the Win2K > >server guy that there isn't a DHCP server on any of the Win2K servers. >Is >there a way to query the network to see if there is a DHCP server >someplace? > >Mary > >At 2/20/2003 04:04 PM, John Hanna wrote: > >Are you 100% sure that someone else has not setup a DHCP server that >is > >handing out mis-information. Believe it or not we had a professor >here > >using one computer to proxy a private network he setup off of a >second > >NIC he had in the computer. One day a bright student accidentally >got > >the network lines reversed and his proxy that was also a DHCP started > >handing out ip addresses on our network. On another ocassion, a >student > >plugged in a mac wireless bridge that did the same thing because it >was > >misconfigure to run dhcp services on the network port instead of the > >wireless side. > > > >This may not be the case with you, but I have learned in my years of > >networking to never discount anything without researching the > >possibility. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu > >[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Mary Van Engelen > >Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 2:47 PM > >To: Novell LAN Interest Group > >Subject: RE: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 > > > > > >We've been using a 7-day lease for about 5 years now. This has always > >worked perfectly. We had lots of issues with the default (at that >time) > >3-day lease. > > > >We've also been using Win98 for a couple of years, with that being >the > >only > >OS. So why now after all this time, would Win98 DHCP be a problem ? > > > >Among the issues we are seeing is the subnet mask on these machines >is > >not > >the right one. In some cases, they got 255.0.0.0. In others, they > >got 255.255.255.0. The correct subnet mask is 255.255.0.0. Why >could > >this > >be happening? > > > >What would 100-day leases do for (to?) me when we are re-imaging > >computers? If we reimage a computer about 15 days into a lease, >leaving > > > >the same NIC in there, will it get the same IP address handed to it? > > > >Thanx, > >Mary > > > > > >At 2/20/2003 08:42 AM, Randal, Phil wrote: > > >What's your default DHCP lease duration? > > > > > >http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/10011979.htm > > > >points out DHCP problem with Windows 9x clients. > > > > > >See also > > >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q194790 - >Win9x > > > > >is not RFC2131-compliant. > > > > > >Try dishing out 100 day leases and see if the problem still occurs. > > > > > >Cheers, > > > > > >Phil > > > > > >--------------------------------------------- > > >Phil Randal > > >Network Engineer > > >Herefordshire Council > > >Hereford, UK > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Mary Van Engelen [mailto:maryve1 at starpower.net] > > > > Sent: 20 February 2003 13:32 > > > > To: Novell Discuss > > > > Subject: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 > > > > > > > > > > > > We've been seeing an increase in IP address conflicts since we > > > > started rolling out Win2K in November. Things were fine for a >couple > > > > of months, but > > > > we started getting these conflicts in January and it's growing. >It's > > > > usually a Win98 computer that reports the conflict. When we >check > >the > > > > computer it's conflicting with, it's usually a Win2K > > > > computer. We will be > > > > keeping this mixture of Win98 and Win2K computers for awhile. > > > > > > > > There is a TID that notes the differences between how WinXP and > > > > Win2K > > > > handle DHCP. Is there a difference between Win98 and Win2K > > > > handles it ? > > > > The solution in the TID said to remove the two timing option > > > > handouts. I thought I would try that, however, we are not >handing > > > > out timing options. > > > > > > > > Has anyone else seen this? Is there a fix for it? I've had >this > > > > DHCP configuration running fine for over a year now with an IP > > > > address conflict > > > > maybe once every couple of months. > > > > > > > > NW 5.1 sp5 > > > > DHCP 3.12c > > > > TCPIP 5.91o (domestic - DHCP server is on box running BM 3.6) > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mary > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Novell mailing list > > > > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > > > > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Novell mailing list > > >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Novell mailing list > >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Novell mailing list > >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell ################################################################# ################################################################# ################################################################# ##### ##### ##### ################################################################# ################################################################# ################################################################# ################################################################# ################################################################# ################################################################# ##### ##### ##### ################################################################# ################################################################# ################################################################# From ITReading at aldridge-borden.com Fri Feb 21 22:26:04 2003 From: ITReading at aldridge-borden.com (ITReading ITReading) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 16:26:04 -0600 Subject: NDPS Printer Supporting Queue-Based Client Workstations Message-ID: Hello all, NW 6.0 SP2 I've just setup NDPS and begun the migration of all of our printers from their old Queue-Printer-Print_Server configurations. All of our client machines point to the old queues. I plan on continuing with this client-side configuration until we replace computers in a few months. I have configured the new NDPS printer objects to service the existing queues (as documented in the NDPS Administration Guide). I have deleted the old Print server and Printer objects. All printing functionality is working perfectly. Users are able to continue printing w/o any configuration changes. Here's the problem: When a user sends a job to the traditional print queue, it immediately gets pulled to the new NDPS printer object. Therefore, from a user's workstation, it appears that there are never any jobs in the queue. I have both the old queue-based printer and the new NDPS printer installed on my workstation, and thus can see the jobs stacked up in the new NDPS printer queue. However, all of my users need to be able to see what's in the queue and modify particular jobs. Does anyone have a workaround to this? I know I can gain this functionality by installing the new NDPS printers on all of the workstations, but I really want to avoid doing this if possible. Thanks in advance! ----------------------------------------------------------- Charles Solomon Systems Support Aldridge, Borden, & Co., P.C. 74 Commerce St. Montgomery, AL 36104 Tel: (334) 834-6640 ext. 286 Fax:(334) 265-9605 www.aldridge-borden.com email: csolomon at aldridge-borden.com -- GroupWise Specific Solutions for Anti-Virus, Anti-Spam, Archiving & more Cool Tools & Downloads + Expert Advisors www.gwtools.com Visit http://www.ngwlist.com to subscribe or unsubscribe. From jgroetsema at uop.edu Fri Feb 21 23:09:49 2003 From: jgroetsema at uop.edu (Jeff Groetsema) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 15:09:49 -0800 Subject: NDPS Printer Supporting Queue-Based Client Workstations Message-ID: Charles, We went through the same process. We just took the plunge and converted the users to using NDPS installed printers, a department at a time. There were a few problems we had to work through (printer drivers for copier/printers that did not want to be installed from NDPS). But on the whole, are users are much happier. One department support person gave me huge amounts of priase because he no longer has to install printer drivers for their people who rove around within the building. >>> ITReading at aldridge-borden.com 02/21/03 02:26PM >>> Hello all, NW 6.0 SP2 I've just setup NDPS and begun the migration of all of our printers from their old Queue-Printer-Print_Server configurations. All of our client machines point to the old queues. I plan on continuing with this client-side configuration until we replace computers in a few months. I have configured the new NDPS printer objects to service the existing queues (as documented in the NDPS Administration Guide). I have deleted the old Print server and Printer objects. All printing functionality is working perfectly. Users are able to continue printing w/o any configuration changes. Here's the problem: When a user sends a job to the traditional print queue, it immediately gets pulled to the new NDPS printer object. Therefore, from a user's workstation, it appears that there are never any jobs in the queue. I have both the old queue-based printer and the new NDPS printer installed on my workstation, and thus can see the jobs stacked up in the new NDPS printer queue. However, all of my users need to be able to see what's in the queue and modify particular jobs. Does anyone have a workaround to this? I know I can gain this functionality by installing the new NDPS printers on all of the workstations, but I really want to avoid doing this if possible. Thanks in advance! ----------------------------------------------------------- Charles Solomon Systems Support Aldridge, Borden, & Co., P.C. 74 Commerce St. Montgomery, AL 36104 Tel: (334) 834-6640 ext. 286 Fax:(334) 265-9605 www.aldridge-borden.com email: csolomon at aldridge-borden.com -- GroupWise Specific Solutions for Anti-Virus, Anti-Spam, Archiving & more Cool Tools & Downloads + Expert Advisors www.gwtools.com Visit http://www.ngwlist.com to subscribe or unsubscribe. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From AHidalgo at salud.unm.edu Fri Feb 21 23:52:03 2003 From: AHidalgo at salud.unm.edu (Al Hidalgo) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 16:52:03 -0700 Subject: DirXML PWSync across subnets Message-ID: I had Password Sync with the NT Domain driver working fine with our NT servers all in the same subnet in a test setup however now that we are trying to roll it out where the NT servers are in a few different subnets it gets kind of random and we get a lot of password changes timing out. The NT network is ok and we have WINS servers on each subnet. Any suggestions? Al Hidalgo, MCNE Senior Analyst Information Systems University Hospitals ahidalgo at salud.unm.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From JRD at cc.usu.edu Fri Feb 21 22:52:36 2003 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 16:52:36 -0600 (MDT) Subject: NDPS Printer Supporting Queue-Based Client Workstations Message-ID: <01KSPGF4NF1EAYM4JB@cc.usu.edu> >Hello all, >NW 6.0 SP2 > >I've just setup NDPS and begun the migration of all of our printers >from their old Queue-Printer-Print_Server configurations. All of our >client machines point to the old queues. I plan on continuing with >this >client-side configuration until we replace computers in a few months. >I have configured the new NDPS printer objects to service the existing >queues (as documented in the NDPS Administration Guide). I have >deleted >the old Print server and Printer objects. All printing functionality >is >working perfectly. Users are able to continue printing w/o any >configuration changes. > >Here's the problem: >When a user sends a job to the traditional print queue, it immediately >gets pulled to the new NDPS printer object. Therefore, from a user's >workstation, it appears that there are never any jobs in the queue. >I have both the old queue-based printer and the new NDPS printer >installed on my workstation, and thus can see the jobs stacked up in >the >new NDPS printer queue. However, all of my users need to be able to >see >what's in the queue and modify particular jobs. > >Does anyone have a workaround to this? > >I know I can gain this functionality by installing the new NDPS >printers on all of the workstations, but I really want to avoid doing >this if possible. --------------- A suggestion is to move everyone over to IPP style printing. They can do this themselves after you tell them the web clicking steps to perform. You can entice them further by using maptool.html in the login directory to create a nifty web clickable printer-map and magic happens. Printer status works via IPP so they can check on jobs themselves. Joe D. From carter at ipfw.edu Sat Feb 22 00:22:36 2003 From: carter at ipfw.edu (Jean-Paul Carter) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 19:22:36 -0500 Subject: NDPS Printer Supporting Queue-Based Client Workstations Message-ID: We are still converting from queue to ndps/iprint and it is going well. We are just leaving the queue stuff turned on and then adding them to iprint. Then 3 weeks after converting a dept to iprint client, we remove the old IPX/queue stuff from that printer(s). We did this instead of the other way of having NDPS service the queues. When you ask about users tracking a job though, what do you want them to do with it ? With iprint, which is hopefully what you will be activating, if the printer was configured for LOW or MEDIUM security, the user can see the jobs queues up for a printer via a web interface. If they were the one that printed that job, they can delete it. If set up for HIGH (where you have to login to iprint client before you can install or print) AND you have the proper Operator access to the printer, then you can delete other jobs. If you are not going to use iprint and just stick with the old NDPS method (I encourage you to try iprint if you have not done so) then you have to use nwadmin or the ndps client tools to get back what you are looking for. >>> ITReading at aldridge-borden.com 02/21/03 05:26PM >>> Hello all, NW 6.0 SP2 I've just setup NDPS and begun the migration of all of our printers from their old Queue-Printer-Print_Server configurations. All of our client machines point to the old queues. I plan on continuing with this client-side configuration until we replace computers in a few months. I have configured the new NDPS printer objects to service the existing queues (as documented in the NDPS Administration Guide). I have deleted the old Print server and Printer objects. All printing functionality is working perfectly. Users are able to continue printing w/o any configuration changes. Here's the problem: When a user sends a job to the traditional print queue, it immediately gets pulled to the new NDPS printer object. Therefore, from a user's workstation, it appears that there are never any jobs in the queue. I have both the old queue-based printer and the new NDPS printer installed on my workstation, and thus can see the jobs stacked up in the new NDPS printer queue. However, all of my users need to be able to see what's in the queue and modify particular jobs. Does anyone have a workaround to this? I know I can gain this functionality by installing the new NDPS printers on all of the workstations, but I really want to avoid doing this if possible. Thanks in advance! ----------------------------------------------------------- Charles Solomon Systems Support Aldridge, Borden, & Co., P.C. 74 Commerce St. Montgomery, AL 36104 Tel: (334) 834-6640 ext. 286 Fax:(334) 265-9605 www.aldridge-borden.com email: csolomon at aldridge-borden.com -- GroupWise Specific Solutions for Anti-Virus, Anti-Spam, Archiving & more Cool Tools & Downloads + Expert Advisors www.gwtools.com Visit http://www.ngwlist.com to subscribe or unsubscribe. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From Alar at mtk.ut.ee Sun Feb 23 17:26:22 2003 From: Alar at mtk.ut.ee (Alar Pandis) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 19:26:22 +0200 Subject: Abend: EIP in MBNWSA.NSS Message-ID: <000c01c2db60$afa03250$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> Hi! Already twice in past two weeks mine server get EIP in MBNWSA.NSS abend. And I have no idea why. I didn't add nothing to server or change any conf. And last abend before that was 01.10.02 connected with NWFTPD. Portal didn't show any abend info. Strange, usually in portal was this noticed. Any ideas? or experiences? Server is NW5.1SP5. SCSI env. 9GB SYS, 18GB mirrored SYS1. Traditional volumes. Also 18GB and 32GB NSS volumes. More thanks, Alar. Server INF00 halted Sunday, February 23, 2003 7:00:12.294 pm Abend 1 on P00: Server-5.00k: Page Fault Processor Exception (Error code 00000000) Registers: CS = 0008 DS = 0010 ES = 0010 FS = 0010 GS = 0010 SS = 0010 EAX = 00006365 EBX = 65657246 ECX = C00D3D60 EDX = CE90B500 ESI = D0C43CCE EDI = 00000000 EBP = D0C43C84 ESP = C00D3D44 EIP = D7841251 FLAGS = 00010246 D7841251 8B9B7C010000 MOV EBX,[EBX+0000017C]=? EIP in MBNWSA.NSS at code start +00040251h Access Location: 0x656573C2 The violation occurred while processing the following instruction: D7841251 8B9B7C010000 MOV EBX,[EBX+0000017C] D7841257 8B4328 MOV EAX,[EBX+28] D784125A 25FEFFFFFF AND EAX,FFFFFFFE D784125F 0F8434000000 JZ D7841299 D7841265 8B4328 MOV EAX,[EBX+28] D7841268 2501000000 AND EAX,00000001 D784126D 0F8507000000 JNZ D784127A D7841273 B8143384D7 MOV EAX,D7843314 D7841278 FF20 JMP near ptr [EAX] D784127A 33C0 XOR EAX,EAX Running process: Server 18 Process Created by: NetWare Application Thread Owned by NLM: SERVER.NLM Stack pointer: C00D3C30 OS Stack limit: C00CC040 Scheduling priority: 67371008 Wait state: 5050090 (Wait for interrupt) Stack: D474FCE0 (NCPIPX.NLM|FinishUpPacket+B6) --D0C43CCE ? -D47553F0 (NCPIPX.NLM|IPXReplyProceduresVector+0) --D0C43C84 ? --00000033 ? --C00D3D60 ? --0000021A ? --55464E49 ? --004B4954 ? --00000000 ? --00000000 ? --00000000 ? --00000000 ? --00000000 ? --00000000 ? --00000000 ? --00000000 ? --00000000 ? --00000000 ? --A0000005 ? --FF001600 ? --0001020A ? --01010136 ? --01010100 ? --05000301 ? --05000A00 ? --00000004 ? --00000000 ? --00000000 ? --00000000 ? --00000000 ? --00000000 ? --00000000 ? --00000000 ? --00000000 ? --00000000 ? --00000000 ? --00000000 ? --00000000 ? --C98355EE ? --00000000 ? --00000097 ? FC02B011 (SERVER.NLM|FreeMemoryDefault+D5) --D46DB904 ? --00000097 ? --00000000 ? --00000000 ? --00001218 ? --00000297 ? FC02A461 (SERVER.NLM|AllocMemoryDefault+A9) --C9DCF724 ? --00000297 ? --00000297 ? --00000507 ? --C06B91C0 ? --C2B3A560 ? --C06B936C ? -FC5394CC (SERVER.NLM|AllocSizeTable+24) --C2B3A558 ? --00000000 ? --00000000 ? --0000000A ? FC02B011 (SERVER.NLM|FreeMemoryDefault+D5) --C9DCF724 ? --00000297 ? --0000006C ? --CCCD0760 ? --00000078 ? --C2B3A560 ? --00000078 ? --C08DA000 ? -CC2EC86E ? FC02AE36 (SERVER.NLM|Free+126) --00000000 ? --D0017880 ? --D0005C00 ? --C00D3F34 ? --C00D3ECC ? --00000045 ? FC0193BC (SERVER.NLM|kRWWriteUnlock+114) --CC40A0A4 ? --CC40E8CB ? --C00D3EE6 ? --CC40A0A0 ? CC2B489D (PORTAL.NLM|PostHealthState+199) --CC40A0A0 ? --048FF4EA ? --000000A0 ? --00000045 ? --000000A0 ? CC2B3DBC (PORTAL.NLM|AddNewConnection+A8) --CBDF99A0 (HTTPSTK.NLM|mailResolveMutex+2990) --048FF4EA ? --00000002 ? -CC2FE0C4 (PORTAL.NLM|NULL_STRING+0) --C00D3ED4 ? --C00D3EE4 ? --00000000 ? -CC2FE0C4 (PORTAL.NLM|NULL_STRING+0) --00000000 ? Additional Information: The CPU encountered a problem executing code in MBNWSA.NSS. The problem may be in that module or in data passed to that module by a process owned by SERVER.NLM. From greg at steadfast.ca Sun Feb 23 19:14:00 2003 From: greg at steadfast.ca (Greg Bembridge, CET, CNE, MCP) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 16:14:00 -0300 Subject: Brightstore Arcserve version 9 Message-ID: <20030223T161413Z_85A200050000@steadfast.ca> Does anyone know if this new version provides the same integrated capabillities that ARcserve IT did, ie; it used to be able to backup Novell small business servers, including Groupwise with no problem at all, and no requirement for optional components?? Ex; never used to have to buy any Groupwise open file option with Arcserve IT, for Novell small business. do you have to buy that option now? Thanks, Greg Greg Bembridge, CET, CNE, MCP Steadfast Computer Network Services 14-4 Westwood Blvd, Suite 396 Upper Tantallon, Halifax County Nova Scotia B3Z 1H3 Tel/Fax: 902-826-2179 greg at steadfast.ca www.steadfast.ca From greg at steadfast.ca Sun Feb 23 20:59:00 2003 From: greg at steadfast.ca (Greg Bembridge, CET, CNE, MCP) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 17:59:00 -0300 Subject: TSA Update, Netware 4.2 Message-ID: <20030223T175906Z_85A200050000@steadfast.ca> Thanks for the info, TSA5up11 does in fact have an updated TSA for version 4 Novell. Greg >TSA5up9 is the current release version but I don't think it has update >for 4.x >TSAup10 and tsaup11 is beta and has 4/5/6 stuff. Greg Bembridge, CET, CNE, MCP Steadfast Computer Network Services 14-4 Westwood Blvd, Suite 396 Upper Tantallon, Halifax County Nova Scotia B3Z 1H3 Tel/Fax: 902-826-2179 greg at steadfast.ca www.steadfast.ca From bhartung at wiscoind.com Sun Feb 23 22:23:57 2003 From: bhartung at wiscoind.com (Bob Hartung) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 16:23:57 -0600 Subject: Brightstore Arcserve version 9 References: <20030223T161413Z_85A200050000@steadfast.ca> Message-ID: <3E5949FD.7020203@wiscoind.com> I've been using the product for about 3 months after upgrading from ArcservIT v6.6. I don't have Groupwise but according to the CA website, support for Groupwise v6 is included in the base product. Initially, I backed up all 4 of our Netware servers without the optional Netware Server client. While this worked, I found the backup speed slow. I tried the trial of the Netware Agent and found the backup speed increased by a factor of 2 - 3 times. I elected to get the agents. Short rant: Companies that sell a moderately performing product and then for an additional fee sell you speed-up add-on for an additional charge are practicing a kind of commercial dishonesty I don't appreciate. That said, Arcserve version 9 is an improvement over v6.6 that is worth the upgrade. I installed it on 2 servers and found the installation process relatively smooth and uneventful.The new Manager interface is simpler to use. One of my installs was for a remote location. I was able to instruct an average PC user through the install process and within about a half hour, get them comfortable with managing the GFS backup tape rotation. I demoed Veritas before upgrading to Arcserve v9. The reasons I chose Arcserve over Veritas. Veritas install didn't work properly and I had to call them 3 times to get it working. After dealing with their tech support, I'd grade them C- and Computer Associates a B-. Cost: with veritas, you have to pay for each server you backup, at least with Arcserve, you can backup an unlimited number if you can tolerate the speed. Overall I found Arcserve's interface more user-friendly but that may be in large part due to my longt time use of Arcserve. Good luck with your project. Greg Bembridge, CET, CNE, MCP wrote: >Does anyone know if this new version provides the same integrated capabillities that ARcserve IT did, ie; it used to be able to backup Novell small business servers, including Groupwise with no problem at all, and no requirement for optional components?? > >Ex; never used to have to buy any Groupwise open file option with Arcserve IT, for Novell small business. do you have to buy that option now? > >Thanks, Greg > >Greg Bembridge, CET, CNE, MCP >Steadfast Computer Network Services >14-4 Westwood Blvd, Suite 396 >Upper Tantallon, Halifax County >Nova Scotia B3Z 1H3 >Tel/Fax: 902-826-2179 >greg at steadfast.ca >www.steadfast.ca > > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > > -- ============================ Bob Hartung, Dir of I.T. c\o Wisco Industries, Inc. P. O. Box 10 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Phone: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-9644 email: bhartung at wiscoind.com From rgrein at nwlink.com Mon Feb 24 03:48:58 2003 From: rgrein at nwlink.com (Randy Grein) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 19:48:58 -0800 Subject: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 In-Reply-To: <000b01c2d9ba$94f761a0$041478c7@ccu03722> Message-ID: Yes. Binaries exist for quite a few platforms. On Friday, February 21, 2003, at 07:04 AM, John Hanna wrote: > Can you get ethereal already compiled or is it only available in source > code leaving the compiling to the user? > > -----Original Message----- > From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu > [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Joe Sullivan > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 5:41 PM > To: Novell LAN Interest Group > Subject: RE: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 > > > If you do not have a sniffer, ( you could use www.ethereal.com) you can > try using ipconfig (nt/2000) or winipcfg (95, 98). I'd be happy to look > at any LAN traces you obtain. > > Joe > > >>>> Roland Gaspar 02/20/2003 4:14:21 PM >>> > if you have access to a sniffer, all you have to do is sniff during an > IP release/renew, all visible DHCP servers should reply, a DHCP Request > bcasts to 255.255.255.255 and takes the 1st DHAP ACK it sees that it > likes, but they all should reply to the request... > > > > > ________________________ > Roland Gaspar > Tel.: (514) 398-7880 xt 8603 > ICQ # 1355591 > www.roland-gaspar.com > > > >>>> maryve1 at starpower.net 02/20/03 05:02PM >>> > Ya know, that thought occurred to me. I have been assured by the Win2K > > server guy that there isn't a DHCP server on any of the Win2K servers. > Is > there a way to query the network to see if there is a DHCP server > someplace? > > Mary > > At 2/20/2003 04:04 PM, John Hanna wrote: >> Are you 100% sure that someone else has not setup a DHCP server that > is >> handing out mis-information. Believe it or not we had a professor > here >> using one computer to proxy a private network he setup off of a > second >> NIC he had in the computer. One day a bright student accidentally > got >> the network lines reversed and his proxy that was also a DHCP started >> handing out ip addresses on our network. On another ocassion, a > student >> plugged in a mac wireless bridge that did the same thing because it > was >> misconfigure to run dhcp services on the network port instead of the >> wireless side. >> >> This may not be the case with you, but I have learned in my years of >> networking to never discount anything without researching the >> possibility. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu >> [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Mary Van Engelen >> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 2:47 PM >> To: Novell LAN Interest Group >> Subject: RE: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 >> >> >> We've been using a 7-day lease for about 5 years now. This has always >> worked perfectly. We had lots of issues with the default (at that > time) >> 3-day lease. >> >> We've also been using Win98 for a couple of years, with that being > the >> only >> OS. So why now after all this time, would Win98 DHCP be a problem ? >> >> Among the issues we are seeing is the subnet mask on these machines > is >> not >> the right one. In some cases, they got 255.0.0.0. In others, they got > >> 255.255.255.0. The correct subnet mask is 255.255.0.0. Why > could >> this >> be happening? >> >> What would 100-day leases do for (to?) me when we are re-imaging >> computers? If we reimage a computer about 15 days into a lease, > leaving >> >> the same NIC in there, will it get the same IP address handed to it? >> >> Thanx, >> Mary >> >> >> At 2/20/2003 08:42 AM, Randal, Phil wrote: >>> What's your default DHCP lease duration? >>> >>> http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/10011979.htm > >>> points out DHCP problem with Windows 9x clients. >>> >>> See also >>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q194790 - > Win9x >> >>> is not RFC2131-compliant. >>> >>> Try dishing out 100 day leases and see if the problem still occurs. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Phil >>> >>> --------------------------------------------- >>> Phil Randal >>> Network Engineer >>> Herefordshire Council >>> Hereford, UK >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Mary Van Engelen [mailto:maryve1 at starpower.net] >>>> Sent: 20 February 2003 13:32 >>>> To: Novell Discuss >>>> Subject: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 >>>> >>>> >>>> We've been seeing an increase in IP address conflicts since we >>>> started rolling out Win2K in November. Things were fine for a > couple >>>> of months, but >>>> we started getting these conflicts in January and it's growing. > It's >>>> usually a Win98 computer that reports the conflict. When we > check >> the >>>> computer it's conflicting with, it's usually a Win2K computer. We >>>> will be keeping this mixture of Win98 and Win2K computers for >>>> awhile. >>>> >>>> There is a TID that notes the differences between how WinXP and >>>> Win2K >>>> handle DHCP. Is there a difference between Win98 and Win2K >>>> handles it ? >>>> The solution in the TID said to remove the two timing option >>>> handouts. I thought I would try that, however, we are not > handing >>>> out timing options. >>>> >>>> Has anyone else seen this? Is there a fix for it? I've had > this >>>> DHCP configuration running fine for over a year now with an IP >>>> address conflict maybe once every couple of months. >>>> >>>> NW 5.1 sp5 >>>> DHCP 3.12c >>>> TCPIP 5.91o (domestic - DHCP server is on box running BM 3.6) >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Mary >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Novell mailing list >>>> Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >>>> http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Novell mailing list >>> Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Novell mailing list >> Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Novell mailing list >> Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >> http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA From fubarsnafu69 at yahoo.com Mon Feb 24 05:33:26 2003 From: fubarsnafu69 at yahoo.com (Fred James) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 21:33:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: Abend: EIP in MBNWSA.NSS In-Reply-To: <000c01c2db60$afa03250$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> Message-ID: <20030224053326.76910.qmail@web10707.mail.yahoo.com> There are updated NSS files on Novells ftp server ftp://ftp.novell.com/pub/netwire/ftf/nns5o.exe --- Alar Pandis wrote: > Hi! > Already twice in past two weeks mine server get EIP in MBNWSA.NSS > abend. And > I have no idea why. I didn't add nothing to server or change any > conf. And > last abend before that was 01.10.02 connected with NWFTPD. Portal > didn't > show any abend info. Strange, usually in portal was this noticed. > Any ideas? or experiences? > Server is NW5.1SP5. SCSI env. 9GB SYS, 18GB mirrored SYS1. > Traditional > volumes. Also 18GB and 32GB NSS volumes. > More thanks, > Alar. > > Server INF00 halted Sunday, February 23, 2003 7:00:12.294 pm > Abend 1 on P00: Server-5.00k: Page Fault Processor Exception (Error > code > 00000000) > > Registers: > CS = 0008 DS = 0010 ES = 0010 FS = 0010 GS = 0010 SS = 0010 > EAX = 00006365 EBX = 65657246 ECX = C00D3D60 EDX = CE90B500 > ESI = D0C43CCE EDI = 00000000 EBP = D0C43C84 ESP = C00D3D44 > EIP = D7841251 FLAGS = 00010246 > D7841251 8B9B7C010000 MOV EBX,[EBX+0000017C]=? > EIP in MBNWSA.NSS at code start +00040251h > Access Location: 0x656573C2 > > The violation occurred while processing the following instruction: > D7841251 8B9B7C010000 MOV EBX,[EBX+0000017C] > D7841257 8B4328 MOV EAX,[EBX+28] > D784125A 25FEFFFFFF AND EAX,FFFFFFFE > D784125F 0F8434000000 JZ D7841299 > D7841265 8B4328 MOV EAX,[EBX+28] > D7841268 2501000000 AND EAX,00000001 > D784126D 0F8507000000 JNZ D784127A > D7841273 B8143384D7 MOV EAX,D7843314 > D7841278 FF20 JMP near ptr [EAX] > D784127A 33C0 XOR EAX,EAX > > > > Running process: Server 18 Process > Created by: NetWare Application > Thread Owned by NLM: SERVER.NLM > Stack pointer: C00D3C30 > OS Stack limit: C00CC040 > Scheduling priority: 67371008 > Wait state: 5050090 (Wait for interrupt) > Stack: D474FCE0 (NCPIPX.NLM|FinishUpPacket+B6) > --D0C43CCE ? > -D47553F0 (NCPIPX.NLM|IPXReplyProceduresVector+0) > --D0C43C84 ? > --00000033 ? > --C00D3D60 ? > --0000021A ? > --55464E49 ? > --004B4954 ? > --00000000 ? > --00000000 ? > --00000000 ? > --00000000 ? > --00000000 ? > --00000000 ? > --00000000 ? > --00000000 ? > --00000000 ? > --00000000 ? > --A0000005 ? > --FF001600 ? > --0001020A ? > --01010136 ? > --01010100 ? > --05000301 ? > --05000A00 ? > --00000004 ? > --00000000 ? > --00000000 ? > --00000000 ? > --00000000 ? > --00000000 ? > --00000000 ? > --00000000 ? > --00000000 ? > --00000000 ? > --00000000 ? > --00000000 ? > --00000000 ? > --C98355EE ? > --00000000 ? > --00000097 ? > FC02B011 (SERVER.NLM|FreeMemoryDefault+D5) > --D46DB904 ? > --00000097 ? > --00000000 ? > --00000000 ? > --00001218 ? > --00000297 ? > FC02A461 (SERVER.NLM|AllocMemoryDefault+A9) > --C9DCF724 ? > --00000297 ? > --00000297 ? > --00000507 ? > --C06B91C0 ? > --C2B3A560 ? > --C06B936C ? > -FC5394CC (SERVER.NLM|AllocSizeTable+24) > --C2B3A558 ? > --00000000 ? > --00000000 ? > --0000000A ? > FC02B011 (SERVER.NLM|FreeMemoryDefault+D5) > --C9DCF724 ? > --00000297 ? > --0000006C ? > --CCCD0760 ? > --00000078 ? > --C2B3A560 ? > --00000078 ? > --C08DA000 ? > -CC2EC86E ? > FC02AE36 (SERVER.NLM|Free+126) > --00000000 ? > --D0017880 ? > --D0005C00 ? > --C00D3F34 ? > --C00D3ECC ? > --00000045 ? > FC0193BC (SERVER.NLM|kRWWriteUnlock+114) > --CC40A0A4 ? > --CC40E8CB ? > --C00D3EE6 ? > --CC40A0A0 ? > CC2B489D (PORTAL.NLM|PostHealthState+199) > --CC40A0A0 ? > --048FF4EA ? > --000000A0 ? > --00000045 ? > --000000A0 ? > CC2B3DBC (PORTAL.NLM|AddNewConnection+A8) > --CBDF99A0 (HTTPSTK.NLM|mailResolveMutex+2990) > --048FF4EA ? > --00000002 ? > -CC2FE0C4 (PORTAL.NLM|NULL_STRING+0) > --C00D3ED4 ? > --C00D3EE4 ? > --00000000 ? > -CC2FE0C4 (PORTAL.NLM|NULL_STRING+0) > --00000000 ? > > Additional Information: > The CPU encountered a problem executing code in MBNWSA.NSS. The > problem > may be in that module or in data passed to that module by a process > owned by > SERVER.NLM. > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From nora at ALSPHILADELPHIA.ORG Mon Feb 24 12:23:08 2003 From: nora at ALSPHILADELPHIA.ORG (Nora Isaac) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 07:23:08 -0500 Subject: Brightstore Arcserve version 9 Message-ID: I use Arcserve V.9 to backup my Novell 6.0 server and Groupwise. I did not have to add on any modules to backup Groupwise. However, the speed is slow. I'm going to look into the agents to speed it up. Nora >>> greg at steadfast.ca 02/23/03 02:14PM >>> Does anyone know if this new version provides the same integrated capabillities that ARcserve IT did, ie; it used to be able to backup Novell small business servers, including Groupwise with no problem at all, and no requirement for optional components?? Ex; never used to have to buy any Groupwise open file option with Arcserve IT, for Novell small business. do you have to buy that option now? Thanks, Greg Greg Bembridge, CET, CNE, MCP Steadfast Computer Network Services 14-4 Westwood Blvd, Suite 396 Upper Tantallon, Halifax County Nova Scotia B3Z 1H3 Tel/Fax: 902-826-2179 greg at steadfast.ca www.steadfast.ca _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Alar at mtk.ut.ee Mon Feb 24 12:20:01 2003 From: Alar at mtk.ut.ee (Alar Pandis) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 14:20:01 +0200 Subject: Abend: EIP in MBNWSA.NSS Message-ID: <000901c2dbff$0df15b60$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> Hi and thanks! Last night I'd restart server and didn't load portal.nlm, but today morning same abend occur. Mh. I need to know why this start to happen. Well, yes, I know there is patch available, but beta. But now I noticed also that "Novell recommends that this patch be applied to NetWare 5.1", so. I probably do that. But, anyway, has anyone experienced similar abends? or have someone any ideas why this may happen. As I wrote I didn't any server conf change etc. and last abend was in last October caused by NWFTPD. More thanks, Alar. --- Fred James wrote: > > There are updated NSS files on Novells ftp server > > > ftp://ftp.novell.com/pub/netwire/ftf/nns5o.exe > > > > --- Alar Pandis wrote: > > Hi! > > Already twice in past two weeks mine server get EIP in MBNWSA.NSS > > abend. And > > I have no idea why. I didn't add nothing to server or change any > > conf. And > > last abend before that was 01.10.02 connected with NWFTPD. Portal > > didn't > > show any abend info. Strange, usually in portal was this noticed. > > Any ideas? or experiences? > > Server is NW5.1SP5. SCSI env. 9GB SYS, 18GB mirrored SYS1. > > Traditional > > volumes. Also 18GB and 32GB NSS volumes. > > More thanks, > > Alar. > > > > Server INF00 halted Sunday, February 23, 2003 7:00:12.294 pm > > Abend 1 on P00: Server-5.00k: Page Fault Processor Exception (Error > > code > > 00000000) > > > > Registers: > > CS = 0008 DS = 0010 ES = 0010 FS = 0010 GS = 0010 SS = 0010 > > EAX = 00006365 EBX = 65657246 ECX = C00D3D60 EDX = CE90B500 > > ESI = D0C43CCE EDI = 00000000 EBP = D0C43C84 ESP = C00D3D44 > > EIP = D7841251 FLAGS = 00010246 > > D7841251 8B9B7C010000 MOV EBX,[EBX+0000017C]=? > > EIP in MBNWSA.NSS at code start +00040251h > > Access Location: 0x656573C2 > > > > The violation occurred while processing the following instruction: > > D7841251 8B9B7C010000 MOV EBX,[EBX+0000017C] > > D7841257 8B4328 MOV EAX,[EBX+28] > > D784125A 25FEFFFFFF AND EAX,FFFFFFFE > > D784125F 0F8434000000 JZ D7841299 > > D7841265 8B4328 MOV EAX,[EBX+28] > > D7841268 2501000000 AND EAX,00000001 > > D784126D 0F8507000000 JNZ D784127A > > D7841273 B8143384D7 MOV EAX,D7843314 > > D7841278 FF20 JMP near ptr [EAX] > > D784127A 33C0 XOR EAX,EAX > > > > > > > > Running process: Server 18 Process > > Created by: NetWare Application > > Thread Owned by NLM: SERVER.NLM > > Stack pointer: C00D3C30 > > OS Stack limit: C00CC040 > > Scheduling priority: 67371008 > > Wait state: 5050090 (Wait for interrupt) > > Stack: D474FCE0 (NCPIPX.NLM|FinishUpPacket+B6) > > --D0C43CCE ? > > -D47553F0 (NCPIPX.NLM|IPXReplyProceduresVector+0) > > ... > > FC02B011 (SERVER.NLM|FreeMemoryDefault+D5) > > ... > > FC02A461 (SERVER.NLM|AllocMemoryDefault+A9) > > ... > > -FC5394CC (SERVER.NLM|AllocSizeTable+24) > > ... > > FC02B011 (SERVER.NLM|FreeMemoryDefault+D5) > > ... > > FC02AE36 (SERVER.NLM|Free+126) > > ... > > FC0193BC (SERVER.NLM|kRWWriteUnlock+114) > > ... > > CC2B489D (PORTAL.NLM|PostHealthState+199) > > ... > CC2B3DBC (PORTAL.NLM|AddNewConnection+A8) > > ... > > -CC2FE0C4 (PORTAL.NLM|NULL_STRING+0) > > ... > > -CC2FE0C4 (PORTAL.NLM|NULL_STRING+0) > > --00000000 ? > > > > Additional Information: > > The CPU encountered a problem executing code in MBNWSA.NSS. The > > problem > > may be in that module or in data passed to that module by a process > > owned by > > SERVER.NLM. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Novell mailing list > > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------------------------------ Alar Pandis IT Manager Faculty of Economics and Business Administration Tartu University, Narva 4-B303, 51013 Tartu, ESTONIA tel +372 7 376 316, fax +372 7 376 312 e-mail Alar at mtk.ut.ee ------------------------------------------------------ From prandal at herefordshire.gov.uk Mon Feb 24 12:22:11 2003 From: prandal at herefordshire.gov.uk (Randal, Phil) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 12:22:11 -0000 Subject: Abend: EIP in MBNWSA.NSS Message-ID: <0EBC45FCABFC95428EBFC3A51B368C9551364B@jessica.herefordshire.gov.uk> My guess would be a bug in the older NSS modules causing eventual corruption. nss5o has been working here without problems since its release, so you can happily apply it. Just install nss5o and reboot, then nss menu and rebuild the affected volume(s) Cheers, Phil --------------------------------------------- Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK > -----Original Message----- > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar at mtk.ut.ee] > Sent: 24 February 2003 12:20 > To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu > Subject: Re: Abend: EIP in MBNWSA.NSS > > > Hi and thanks! > Last night I'd restart server and didn't load portal.nlm, but > today morning > same abend occur. Mh. > I need to know why this start to happen. Well, yes, I know > there is patch > available, but beta. But now I noticed also that "Novell > recommends that > this patch be applied to NetWare 5.1", so. I probably do that. > But, anyway, has anyone experienced similar abends? or have > someone any > ideas why this may happen. As I wrote I didn't any server > conf change etc. > and last abend was in last October caused by NWFTPD. > More thanks, > Alar. From jlindblom at mico.com Mon Feb 24 13:50:30 2003 From: jlindblom at mico.com (jlindblom at mico.com) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 07:50:30 -0600 Subject: NDPS Printer Supporting Queue-Based Client Workstations Message-ID: We are moving to NDPS here and decided to stick with NDPS and not use iPrint. It looks like you are recommending the move to iPrint instead of staying with just NDPS, Why is that? We briefly looked at it and didn't see a big benefit for us. John Lindblom Network Administrator MICO, Inc. North Mankato, MN "Jean-Paul Carter" To: , Sent by: cc: novell-bounces at netla Subject: Re: NDPS Printer Supporting Queue-Based Client Workstations b1.usu.edu 02/21/2003 06:22 PM Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group We are still converting from queue to ndps/iprint and it is going well. We are just leaving the queue stuff turned on and then adding them to iprint. Then 3 weeks after converting a dept to iprint client, we remove the old IPX/queue stuff from that printer(s). We did this instead of the other way of having NDPS service the queues. When you ask about users tracking a job though, what do you want them to do with it ? With iprint, which is hopefully what you will be activating, if the printer was configured for LOW or MEDIUM security, the user can see the jobs queues up for a printer via a web interface. If they were the one that printed that job, they can delete it. If set up for HIGH (where you have to login to iprint client before you can install or print) AND you have the proper Operator access to the printer, then you can delete other jobs. If you are not going to use iprint and just stick with the old NDPS method (I encourage you to try iprint if you have not done so) then you have to use nwadmin or the ndps client tools to get back what you are looking for. >>> ITReading at aldridge-borden.com 02/21/03 05:26PM >>> Hello all, NW 6.0 SP2 I've just setup NDPS and begun the migration of all of our printers from their old Queue-Printer-Print_Server configurations. All of our client machines point to the old queues. I plan on continuing with this client-side configuration until we replace computers in a few months. I have configured the new NDPS printer objects to service the existing queues (as documented in the NDPS Administration Guide). I have deleted the old Print server and Printer objects. All printing functionality is working perfectly. Users are able to continue printing w/o any configuration changes. Here's the problem: When a user sends a job to the traditional print queue, it immediately gets pulled to the new NDPS printer object. Therefore, from a user's workstation, it appears that there are never any jobs in the queue. I have both the old queue-based printer and the new NDPS printer installed on my workstation, and thus can see the jobs stacked up in the new NDPS printer queue. However, all of my users need to be able to see what's in the queue and modify particular jobs. Does anyone have a workaround to this? I know I can gain this functionality by installing the new NDPS printers on all of the workstations, but I really want to avoid doing this if possible. Thanks in advance! From JRD at cc.usu.edu Mon Feb 24 13:49:58 2003 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 07:49:58 -0600 (MDT) Subject: NDPS Printer Supporting Queue-Based Client Workstations Message-ID: <01KST4D5V4NWAYM924@cc.usu.edu> >We are moving to NDPS here and decided to stick with NDPS and not use >iPrint. It looks like you are recommending the move to iPrint instead of >staying with just NDPS, Why is that? We briefly looked at it and didn't see >a big benefit for us. > >John Lindblom >Network Administrator >MICO, Inc. >North Mankato, MN --------- In case there is some confusion, IPP is the comms channel technique. For NetWare IPP feds straight into NDPS for print management and NDPS does the actual printing. IPP does not require a NW client; it does require a modernization of Windows, which Novell provides as standalone file ipp.exe. Joe D. From John at coastal.edu Mon Feb 24 16:24:08 2003 From: John at coastal.edu (John Hanna) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 11:24:08 -0500 Subject: Auditing report Message-ID: <016101c2dc21$2b6a6660$041478c7@ccu03722> My boss wishes for me to give him some information about usage on one of our file servers. Primarily he wantes to know how many users are logging into it daily. I have auditing turned on on this context and can manually review the data, but he is wanting data from about the last couple of months. Does anyone have a suggestion on software or some mechanism for pulling this data? John Hanna Network Services Manager Coastal Carolina University PO Box 261954 Conway, SC 29528-6054 Phone:(843)349-2150 Fax: (843)349-2990 Email: John at coastal.edu From kreischl at morainepark.edu Mon Feb 24 16:31:42 2003 From: kreischl at morainepark.edu (Karl Reischl/MPTC) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 10:31:42 -0600 Subject: Auditing report Message-ID: MRTG for netware: http://www.cae.wisc.edu/~drews/mrtg/ SNMPc program to pull SNMP info every x minutes, etc. www.castlerock.com I use this to analyse SNMP on all platforms: http://www.bytesphere.com/products/products.html?URL=oidview.html& thanks, Karl Reischl Network Administrator Moraine Park Technical College phone: 920-924-6318 fax: 920-924-3460 |---------+------------------------------> | | "John Hanna" | | | | | | Sent by: | | | novell-bounces at netl| | | ab1.usu.edu | | | | | | | | | 02/24/2003 10:24 AM| | | Please respond to | | | Novell LAN Interest| | | Group | | | | |---------+------------------------------> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | To: "Novell LAN Interest Group" | | cc: | | Subject: Auditing report | >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| My boss wishes for me to give him some information about usage on one of our file servers. Primarily he wantes to know how many users are logging into it daily. I have auditing turned on on this context and can manually review the data, but he is wanting data from about the last couple of months. Does anyone have a suggestion on software or some mechanism for pulling this data? John Hanna Network Services Manager Coastal Carolina University PO Box 261954 Conway, SC 29528-6054 Phone:(843)349-2150 Fax: (843)349-2990 Email: John at coastal.edu _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From G.Ross at ccw.gov.uk Mon Feb 24 16:34:03 2003 From: G.Ross at ccw.gov.uk (Gordon Ross) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 16:34:03 +0000 Subject: User Tracking Message-ID: I'm looking for some software to track/log user logins/logouts across our NDS tree. Auditing within NetWare is too hard to do across multiple servers. The software needs to run across NW 4.x/5.x/6.x with various versions of DS. GTG Gordon Ross, Network Manager/Rheolwr Rhydwaith Countryside Council for Wales/Cyngor Cefn Gwlad Cymru From prandal at herefordshire.gov.uk Mon Feb 24 16:25:24 2003 From: prandal at herefordshire.gov.uk (Randal, Phil) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 16:25:24 -0000 Subject: Auditing report Message-ID: <0EBC45FCABFC95428EBFC3A51B368C9551364E@jessica.herefordshire.gov.uk> MRTG and MRTGEXT (http://www.cae.wisc.edu/~drews/mrtg/) will do it for you. Phil --------------------------------------------- Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK > -----Original Message----- > From: John Hanna [mailto:John at coastal.edu] > Sent: 24 February 2003 16:24 > To: Novell LAN Interest Group > Subject: Auditing report > > > My boss wishes for me to give him some information about > usage on one of > our file servers. Primarily he wantes to know how many users are > logging into it daily. I have auditing turned on on this context and > can manually review the data, but he is wanting data from > about the last > couple of months. Does anyone have a suggestion on software or some > mechanism for pulling this data? > > John Hanna > Network Services Manager > Coastal Carolina University > PO Box 261954 > Conway, SC 29528-6054 > Phone:(843)349-2150 Fax: (843)349-2990 > Email: John at coastal.edu > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > From ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu Mon Feb 24 17:02:25 2003 From: ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 12:02:25 -0500 Subject: GW WebAccess flakiness Message-ID: Issues with GW Webaccess, GW602, NW6, sp2, apache 1.3.27, Tomcat 33. SSL enabled. Single pII, 300 MHZ, 512 MB ECC RAM. Apache is loaded only in a single address space (OS). Intermittently, various problems. "red x" where icons should be, "empty" message box, when reading mail, "login not current", "page contains secure and non secure items" (seems to refer to the mailbox/folder list on left of page, sometimes "page not found" for the contents of that "frame"). "seems" to be mostly with various flavors of IE, tho also happens with NS (reported by user versions curretnly unknown). Server will, at times, seem to exhibit high utilization, without (apparently) high NIC or disk activity. Threads will vary, no single one consumes large, for very long. Any hints? ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- Remember: once, everyone "Knew" the world was flat. --------------------------------------------------- From bud at moldriteplastics.com Mon Feb 24 17:03:43 2003 From: bud at moldriteplastics.com (Bud Durland) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 12:03:43 -0500 Subject: User Tracking In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3E5A506F.2020703@moldriteplastics.com> We use AuditLogon from Condrey Consulting: http://www.condreyconsulting.com/production/PRODUCTS/AuditLogin/Summary.htm The price was resonable, and so far it's worked quite well. Gordon Ross wrote: >I'm looking for some software to track/log user logins/logouts across >our NDS tree. Auditing within NetWare is too hard to do across multiple >servers. > >The software needs to run across NW 4.x/5.x/6.x with various versions >of DS. > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Pinky, are you pondering whay I'm pondering?" "I think so, Brain, but really, me and Pippi Longstockings? I mean, what would the children look like?" ------------------------------------------------------------------- Bud Durland, CNE Mold-Rite Plastics Network Administrator http://www.mrpcap.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- From carter at ipfw.edu Mon Feb 24 17:08:54 2003 From: carter at ipfw.edu (Jean-Paul Carter) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 12:08:54 -0500 Subject: NDPS Printer Supporting Queue-Based Client Workstations Message-ID: Iprint is still NDPS, it just gives another way to distribute ndps printers, so if you already have printers in NDPS, activating them as iprint printers is very easy through imanager. Iprint at least here on our campus has allowed us to off load much of the printer decisions back to the user. We have people flopping from computer to computer and having the ability for them to just go to our portal (www.stone-ware.com) and click on a link that scans edir for what printers they have access to and shows them the printers they have access to (regardless of if they have client32 installed or not) and have that printer auto install with the click of a web link is a big benefit here. We also have quite a few people that come on campus to work with departments that need to print, so we just set them up with iprint and they can print without having to login to our network. It also allows us to let people print to the dept printers from home without having to login. When we are done with our wireless project, we are going to open up the student lab printers for the students to print to via iprint when they are out in the common area of the buildings. Again, we don't have to worry about putting client 32 on their machine so they can print. John Carter Senior Network Systems Programmer ITServices Indiana Purdue University Ft. Wayne 2101 Coliseum Blvd Ft. Wayne IN 46805 260 481-5473 260 481-4152 fax carter at ipfw.edu >>> jlindblom at mico.com 02/24/03 08:50AM >>> We are moving to NDPS here and decided to stick with NDPS and not use iPrint. It looks like you are recommending the move to iPrint instead of staying with just NDPS, Why is that? We briefly looked at it and didn't see a big benefit for us. John Lindblom Network Administrator MICO, Inc. North Mankato, MN "Jean-Paul Carter" To: , Sent by: cc: novell-bounces at netla Subject: Re: NDPS Printer Supporting Queue-Based Client Workstations b1.usu.edu 02/21/2003 06:22 PM Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group We are still converting from queue to ndps/iprint and it is going well. We are just leaving the queue stuff turned on and then adding them to iprint. Then 3 weeks after converting a dept to iprint client, we remove the old IPX/queue stuff from that printer(s). We did this instead of the other way of having NDPS service the queues. When you ask about users tracking a job though, what do you want them to do with it ? With iprint, which is hopefully what you will be activating, if the printer was configured for LOW or MEDIUM security, the user can see the jobs queues up for a printer via a web interface. If they were the one that printed that job, they can delete it. If set up for HIGH (where you have to login to iprint client before you can install or print) AND you have the proper Operator access to the printer, then you can delete other jobs. If you are not going to use iprint and just stick with the old NDPS method (I encourage you to try iprint if you have not done so) then you have to use nwadmin or the ndps client tools to get back what you are looking for. >>> ITReading at aldridge-borden.com 02/21/03 05:26PM >>> Hello all, NW 6.0 SP2 I've just setup NDPS and begun the migration of all of our printers from their old Queue-Printer-Print_Server configurations. All of our client machines point to the old queues. I plan on continuing with this client-side configuration until we replace computers in a few months. I have configured the new NDPS printer objects to service the existing queues (as documented in the NDPS Administration Guide). I have deleted the old Print server and Printer objects. All printing functionality is working perfectly. Users are able to continue printing w/o any configuration changes. Here's the problem: When a user sends a job to the traditional print queue, it immediately gets pulled to the new NDPS printer object. Therefore, from a user's workstation, it appears that there are never any jobs in the queue. I have both the old queue-based printer and the new NDPS printer installed on my workstation, and thus can see the jobs stacked up in the new NDPS printer queue. However, all of my users need to be able to see what's in the queue and modify particular jobs. Does anyone have a workaround to this? I know I can gain this functionality by installing the new NDPS printers on all of the workstations, but I really want to avoid doing this if possible. Thanks in advance! _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From carter at ipfw.edu Mon Feb 24 17:18:08 2003 From: carter at ipfw.edu (Jean-Paul Carter) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 12:18:08 -0500 Subject: User Tracking Message-ID: We tried using the audit stuff in netware 5.1 and did not care for it, as several times, it filled up and basically brought the server down to its knees. After that, we did the el cheapo method of using the users.exe program from JRB (could probably use ndir also, but users.exe from jrb was quicker when I tossed this together) and we have it run on a small win98 machine. We are lucky in that everyone we need to watch actually has access to a common server where some shared files are at. The program runs every 15 min, dumps the connection contents to a file and we just rotate that file every day. We have had to use this data many times for the Police dept to see who was logged in at a station at what time. And so far 15 min logging has worked out fine. No problems with different DS versions, no chance that it will take down a server if the log gets to big and it is easy to search for a particular day and find the person in question. We currently log, station address, username, amount of time logged in, date and time that login occurred. If I wanted to get fancy, we could dump the text file each day to an database, but we have not had the need to go that far yet. >>> G.Ross at ccw.gov.uk 02/24/03 11:34AM >>> I'm looking for some software to track/log user logins/logouts across our NDS tree. Auditing within NetWare is too hard to do across multiple servers. The software needs to run across NW 4.x/5.x/6.x with various versions of DS. GTG Gordon Ross, Network Manager/Rheolwr Rhydwaith Countryside Council for Wales/Cyngor Cefn Gwlad Cymru _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From ITReading at aldridge-borden.com Mon Feb 24 17:52:55 2003 From: ITReading at aldridge-borden.com (ITReading ITReading) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 11:52:55 -0600 Subject: NDPS Printer Supporting Queue-Based Client Workstations Message-ID: Here a brief of my scenario. About 60 users, most of which are laptop users. When they work in the field, they usually print to local portable printers b/c their field work is usually in a place where Internet access is not available. When here in the office, they all use Client32 to connect to the network (in fact, they must, b/c all of our Network Apps are housed on the NetWare servers). Each user has one computer and each computer has only one assigned user. To me, it seems that in this situation, it is actually best to use Standard NDPS and not iPrint/ipp. I just installed one of our printers via ipp and noticed that some functionality is lost (i.e. NDPS Printer Settings, NDPS Job Holds, NDPS Notification, etc.) Does anyone disagree? I'm migrating from traditional queues to NDPS and am trying to decide whether to go with Client32 based NDPS or ipp. Thanks, ----------------------------------------------------------- Charles Solomon Systems Support Aldridge, Borden, & Co., P.C. 74 Commerce St. Montgomery, AL 36104 Tel: (334) 834-6640 ext. 286 Fax:(334) 265-9605 www.aldridge-borden.com email: csolomon at aldridge-borden.com >>> carter at ipfw.edu 02/24/2003 11:08:54 AM >>> Iprint is still NDPS, it just gives another way to distribute ndps printers, so if you already have printers in NDPS, activating them as iprint printers is very easy through imanager. Iprint at least here on our campus has allowed us to off load much of the printer decisions back to the user. We have people flopping from computer to computer and having the ability for them to just go to our portal (www.stone-ware.com) and click on a link that scans edir for what printers they have access to and shows them the printers they have access to (regardless of if they have client32 installed or not) and have that printer auto install with the click of a web link is a big benefit here. We also have quite a few people that come on campus to work with departments that need to print, so we just set them up with iprint and they can print without having to login to our network. It also allows us to let people print to the dept printers from home without having to login. When we are done with our wireless project, we are going to open up the student lab printers for the students to print to via iprint when they are out in the common area of the buildings. Again, we don't have to worry about putting client 32 on their machine so they can print. John Carter Senior Network Systems Programmer ITServices Indiana Purdue University Ft. Wayne 2101 Coliseum Blvd Ft. Wayne IN 46805 260 481-5473 260 481-4152 fax carter at ipfw.edu >>> jlindblom at mico.com 02/24/03 08:50AM >>> We are moving to NDPS here and decided to stick with NDPS and not use iPrint. It looks like you are recommending the move to iPrint instead of staying with just NDPS, Why is that? We briefly looked at it and didn't see a big benefit for us. John Lindblom Network Administrator MICO, Inc. North Mankato, MN "Jean-Paul Carter" To: , Sent by: cc: novell-bounces at netla Subject: Re: NDPS Printer Supporting Queue-Based Client Workstations b1.usu.edu 02/21/2003 06:22 PM Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group We are still converting from queue to ndps/iprint and it is going well. We are just leaving the queue stuff turned on and then adding them to iprint. Then 3 weeks after converting a dept to iprint client, we remove the old IPX/queue stuff from that printer(s). We did this instead of the other way of having NDPS service the queues. When you ask about users tracking a job though, what do you want them to do with it ? With iprint, which is hopefully what you will be activating, if the printer was configured for LOW or MEDIUM security, the user can see the jobs queues up for a printer via a web interface. If they were the one that printed that job, they can delete it. If set up for HIGH (where you have to login to iprint client before you can install or print) AND you have the proper Operator access to the printer, then you can delete other jobs. If you are not going to use iprint and just stick with the old NDPS method (I encourage you to try iprint if you have not done so) then you have to use nwadmin or the ndps client tools to get back what you are looking for. >>> ITReading at aldridge-borden.com 02/21/03 05:26PM >>> Hello all, NW 6.0 SP2 I've just setup NDPS and begun the migration of all of our printers from their old Queue-Printer-Print_Server configurations. All of our client machines point to the old queues. I plan on continuing with this client-side configuration until we replace computers in a few months. I have configured the new NDPS printer objects to service the existing queues (as documented in the NDPS Administration Guide). I have deleted the old Print server and Printer objects. All printing functionality is working perfectly. Users are able to continue printing w/o any configuration changes. Here's the problem: When a user sends a job to the traditional print queue, it immediately gets pulled to the new NDPS printer object. Therefore, from a user's workstation, it appears that there are never any jobs in the queue. I have both the old queue-based printer and the new NDPS printer installed on my workstation, and thus can see the jobs stacked up in the new NDPS printer queue. However, all of my users need to be able to see what's in the queue and modify particular jobs. Does anyone have a workaround to this? I know I can gain this functionality by installing the new NDPS printers on all of the workstations, but I really want to avoid doing this if possible. Thanks in advance! _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From MLeone at Contributionship.com Mon Feb 24 18:22:37 2003 From: MLeone at Contributionship.com (Leone, Michael) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 13:22:37 -0500 Subject: Anyone running ConsoleOne for Linux on Debian, not RedHat? Message-ID: I'm trying to run ConsoleOne 1.34a for Linux on my Debain-based laptop, to manage my NW 5.1Sp5, NDS 8.82 server. Posts in the forum assure me that C1 can manage that NDS version. (I will be upgrading to eDir, but not for a few months yet). Anyway, I'm having problems installing it, probably because it's designed primarily for RPM-based distros like RedHat, and I'm on deb-based distro (LibraNet). The install asks for a language, and which spap-ins I want. Then it wants to install the JRE. Even tho I already have IBM's JRE installed, I tell it to go ahead and install the JRE. Then it says "Installing NICI". But always gives this error "NICI is not installed. Please install NICI before proceeding with ConsoleOne installation" It is possible to install RPMs on a DEB based distro, but when I go to manually install nici using RPM, it complains of many missing dependencies (libc6, mostly) - which is obviously installed, but the RPM database doesn't know about it. I can convert the RPM into a DEB using alien, and install that way (and it installs fine). [alien -c -k nici-2.4.1-u0.i386.rpm] But since the RPM database doesn't know anything about DEBs that are installed, the provided install script will still continue to fail. I tried manually converting all the supplied RPMs into DEBs, and installing manually. And it installs, and I can even start C1 up (/usr/ConsoleOne/bin/ConsoleOne). However, I never get beyond the first level - there is no context shown under "NDS" under "My World". Clicking on "NDS" does nothing - no window opens. I get the key symbol next to "NDS" but that's all. I can login to the tree just fine, using the GUI client from . Accessing files just fine. It's just C1 that isn't doing anything. Anybody using C1 for Linux? Hopefully against NW 5.1SP5, NDS v8.x? Even more hopefully, on Debian? :-) -- ------------------------------------------------------------ Michael Leone, Systems Administrator Philadelphia Contributionship 210 S. 4th Street, Philadelphia, PA 19106 V: 215-627-1752 x1282 F: 215-627-5354 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com Mon Feb 24 19:13:09 2003 From: Peter.VanLone at mbtmadison.com (Peter Van Lone) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 13:13:09 -0600 Subject: GW WebAccess flakiness Message-ID: Are you using gwwebup.ncf to launch GW WebAccess? Since you have apache only in the OS adde space, that would suggest to me that you are not. I would try to comment out anything that loads apache, then add startweb.ncf and gwwebup.ncf to the autoexec. Reboot and see if that clears it up. -----Original Message----- From: Joe Acquisto [mailto:ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu] Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 11:02 AM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu; ngw at ngwlist.com Subject: GW WebAccess flakiness Issues with GW Webaccess, GW602, NW6, sp2, apache 1.3.27, Tomcat 33. SSL enabled. Single pII, 300 MHZ, 512 MB ECC RAM. Apache is loaded only in a single address space (OS). Intermittently, various problems. "red x" where icons should be, "empty" message box, when reading mail, "login not current", "page contains secure and non secure items" (seems to refer to the mailbox/folder list on left of page, sometimes "page not found" for the contents of that "frame"). "seems" to be mostly with various flavors of IE, tho also happens with NS (reported by user versions curretnly unknown). Server will, at times, seem to exhibit high utilization, without (apparently) high NIC or disk activity. Threads will vary, no single one consumes large, for very long. Any hints? ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- Remember: once, everyone "Knew" the world was flat. --------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From carter at ipfw.edu Mon Feb 24 19:25:06 2003 From: carter at ipfw.edu (Jean-Paul Carter) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 14:25:06 -0500 Subject: NDPS Printer Supporting Queue-Based Client Workstations Message-ID: Which is why I asked "When you ask about users tracking a job though, what do you want them to do with it ?" This is where I initially had a problem with iprint. We had a printer where we wanted all jobs to be held until the person who was assigned oper privledges to release them. In imanager they did not give a nice way for an "operator" to release held jobs. NWadmin had to be used. If you users had internet access out in the field, then I think you would see some benefits for iprint. But since you are going with NDPS, you can still build upon that with Iprint to provide this functionalty when the time comes. It is not like you have to scrap what you have and start over, you will already have the foundation set. John Carter Senior Network Systems Programmer ITServices Indiana Purdue University Ft. Wayne 2101 Coliseum Blvd Ft. Wayne IN 46805 260 481-5473 260 481-4152 fax carter at ipfw.edu >>> ITReading at aldridge-borden.com 02/24/03 12:52PM >>> Here a brief of my scenario. About 60 users, most of which are laptop users. When they work in the field, they usually print to local portable printers b/c their field work is usually in a place where Internet access is not available. When here in the office, they all use Client32 to connect to the network (in fact, they must, b/c all of our Network Apps are housed on the NetWare servers). Each user has one computer and each computer has only one assigned user. To me, it seems that in this situation, it is actually best to use Standard NDPS and not iPrint/ipp. I just installed one of our printers via ipp and noticed that some functionality is lost (i.e. NDPS Printer Settings, NDPS Job Holds, NDPS Notification, etc.) Does anyone disagree? I'm migrating from traditional queues to NDPS and am trying to decide whether to go with Client32 based NDPS or ipp. Thanks, ----------------------------------------------------------- Charles Solomon Systems Support Aldridge, Borden, & Co., P.C. 74 Commerce St. Montgomery, AL 36104 Tel: (334) 834-6640 ext. 286 Fax:(334) 265-9605 www.aldridge-borden.com email: csolomon at aldridge-borden.com >>> carter at ipfw.edu 02/24/2003 11:08:54 AM >>> Iprint is still NDPS, it just gives another way to distribute ndps printers, so if you already have printers in NDPS, activating them as iprint printers is very easy through imanager. Iprint at least here on our campus has allowed us to off load much of the printer decisions back to the user. We have people flopping from computer to computer and having the ability for them to just go to our portal (www.stone-ware.com) and click on a link that scans edir for what printers they have access to and shows them the printers they have access to (regardless of if they have client32 installed or not) and have that printer auto install with the click of a web link is a big benefit here. We also have quite a few people that come on campus to work with departments that need to print, so we just set them up with iprint and they can print without having to login to our network. It also allows us to let people print to the dept printers from home without having to login. When we are done with our wireless project, we are going to open up the student lab printers for the students to print to via iprint when they are out in the common area of the buildings. Again, we don't have to worry about putting client 32 on their machine so they can print. John Carter Senior Network Systems Programmer ITServices Indiana Purdue University Ft. Wayne 2101 Coliseum Blvd Ft. Wayne IN 46805 260 481-5473 260 481-4152 fax carter at ipfw.edu >>> jlindblom at mico.com 02/24/03 08:50AM >>> We are moving to NDPS here and decided to stick with NDPS and not use iPrint. It looks like you are recommending the move to iPrint instead of staying with just NDPS, Why is that? We briefly looked at it and didn't see a big benefit for us. John Lindblom Network Administrator MICO, Inc. North Mankato, MN "Jean-Paul Carter" To: , Sent by: cc: novell-bounces at netla Subject: Re: NDPS Printer Supporting Queue-Based Client Workstations b1.usu.edu 02/21/2003 06:22 PM Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group We are still converting from queue to ndps/iprint and it is going well. We are just leaving the queue stuff turned on and then adding them to iprint. Then 3 weeks after converting a dept to iprint client, we remove the old IPX/queue stuff from that printer(s). We did this instead of the other way of having NDPS service the queues. When you ask about users tracking a job though, what do you want them to do with it ? With iprint, which is hopefully what you will be activating, if the printer was configured for LOW or MEDIUM security, the user can see the jobs queues up for a printer via a web interface. If they were the one that printed that job, they can delete it. If set up for HIGH (where you have to login to iprint client before you can install or print) AND you have the proper Operator access to the printer, then you can delete other jobs. If you are not going to use iprint and just stick with the old NDPS method (I encourage you to try iprint if you have not done so) then you have to use nwadmin or the ndps client tools to get back what you are looking for. >>> ITReading at aldridge-borden.com 02/21/03 05:26PM >>> Hello all, NW 6.0 SP2 I've just setup NDPS and begun the migration of all of our printers from their old Queue-Printer-Print_Server configurations. All of our client machines point to the old queues. I plan on continuing with this client-side configuration until we replace computers in a few months. I have configured the new NDPS printer objects to service the existing queues (as documented in the NDPS Administration Guide). I have deleted the old Print server and Printer objects. All printing functionality is working perfectly. Users are able to continue printing w/o any configuration changes. Here's the problem: When a user sends a job to the traditional print queue, it immediately gets pulled to the new NDPS printer object. Therefore, from a user's workstation, it appears that there are never any jobs in the queue. I have both the old queue-based printer and the new NDPS printer installed on my workstation, and thus can see the jobs stacked up in the new NDPS printer queue. However, all of my users need to be able to see what's in the queue and modify particular jobs. Does anyone have a workaround to this? I know I can gain this functionality by installing the new NDPS printers on all of the workstations, but I really want to avoid doing this if possible. Thanks in advance! _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From GField at uhs.edu Mon Feb 24 19:46:08 2003 From: GField at uhs.edu (Greg Field) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 13:46:08 -0600 Subject: eDirectory 8.7 Message-ID: We are looking at installing eDirectory 8.7 on our servers and are wondering if anyone has run into any issues with the installation or with servers having problems after the install. Any help or information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Greg Field Greg Field, CNA Junior Network Administrator University of Health Sciences From ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu Mon Feb 24 19:47:20 2003 From: ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 14:47:20 -0500 Subject: GW WebAccess flakiness Message-ID: >Are you using gwwebup.ncf to launch GW WebAccess? > Nope. >Since you have apache only in the OS adde space, that would suggest to >me that you are not. Correct. It is running essentially "as installed". As a "clean install" (of NW6, hence apache/tomcat and GW6 sp2), it never seemed to use gwwebup. At least, it never added it to autoexec.ncf. It seemed to work fine, for a while. >I would try to comment out anything that loads apache, then add >startweb.ncf and gwwebup.ncf to the autoexec. Reboot and see if that >clears it up. > > I've thought about trying that, actually, but, as noted, it worked, from the git go, as installed. Seems to have gotten worse, since I added more download areas. Tho, that does not seem to have increased server load very much. Since other threads seem to imply that this sort of problem comes up when Apache is loaded multiple times, maybe I will just bring up another box, with only GwWA on it. Tho, that seems "wrong", "philosophically" joea/ ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- Remember: once, everyone "Knew" the world was flat. --------------------------------------------------- From jfast at development.tas.gov.au Mon Feb 24 21:37:48 2003 From: jfast at development.tas.gov.au (jfast at development.tas.gov.au) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 08:37:48 +1100 Subject: eDirectory 8.7 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I have been running it since December, not in full production yet but am also running it on a couple of 2000 servers with everyone on the Helpdesk using it and it hasn't caused me any problems so far. Unsure what it will be like across 64k WAN links but it has to be better than what we currently are running 8.5 on NW5. John "Greg Field" Sent by: To novell-bounces at ne tlab1.usu.edu cc Subject 25/02/2003 06:46 eDirectory 8.7 AM Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group We are looking at installing eDirectory 8.7 on our servers and are wondering if anyone has run into any issues with the installation or with servers having problems after the install. Any help or information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Greg Field Greg Field, CNA Junior Network Administrator University of Health Sciences _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From maryve1 at starpower.net Mon Feb 24 22:22:26 2003 From: maryve1 at starpower.net (Mary Van Engelen) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 17:22:26 -0500 Subject: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030224170258.01f99400@pop.starpower.net> Well, we found that a DHCP server service was indeed running on a Win2K test box, although not configured. Disabled it and did an Etherpeek capture of a couple of release/renews and the real DHCP was the only one to answer the call. Then, this morning a user had a problem on a Win98 machine. BEFORE the release/renew we saw that the computer had gotten the subnet mask 255.255.255.0 and the DHCP server was the correct one. The subnet mask should have been 255.255.0.0. AFTER the release/renew, the same IP address was assigned, as well as the correct subnet mask. Definitely scratching my head on this one. Any other ideas? Mary At 2/21/2003 07:20 AM, Peter Bowers wrote: >We have discovered that the Apple Airport wireless hub does DHCP by >default, if someone sets one up on a network, some workstations will pick >up their address from it, causing connectivity problems. > >Hope this helps, > > > >Peter Bowers, CNE >Supervisor of Technology Services >Southwest Regional School Board >541-3024 > > >>> rgaspar at patlq.com 2/20/2003 6:14:21 pm >>> >if you have access to a sniffer, all you have to do is sniff during an >IP release/renew, all visible DHCP servers should reply, a DHCP Request >bcasts to 255.255.255.255 and takes the 1st DHAP ACK it sees that it >likes, but they all should reply to the request... > > > > >________________________ >Roland Gaspar >Tel.: (514) 398-7880 xt 8603 >ICQ # 1355591 >www.roland-gaspar.com > > > > >>> maryve1 at starpower.net 02/20/03 05:02PM >>> >Ya know, that thought occurred to me. I have been assured by the Win2K > >server guy that there isn't a DHCP server on any of the Win2K servers. >Is >there a way to query the network to see if there is a DHCP server >someplace? > >Mary > >At 2/20/2003 04:04 PM, John Hanna wrote: > >Are you 100% sure that someone else has not setup a DHCP server that >is > >handing out mis-information. Believe it or not we had a professor >here > >using one computer to proxy a private network he setup off of a >second > >NIC he had in the computer. One day a bright student accidentally >got > >the network lines reversed and his proxy that was also a DHCP started > >handing out ip addresses on our network. On another ocassion, a >student > >plugged in a mac wireless bridge that did the same thing because it >was > >misconfigure to run dhcp services on the network port instead of the > >wireless side. > > > >This may not be the case with you, but I have learned in my years of > >networking to never discount anything without researching the > >possibility. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu > >[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Mary Van Engelen > >Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 2:47 PM > >To: Novell LAN Interest Group > >Subject: RE: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 > > > > > >We've been using a 7-day lease for about 5 years now. This has always > >worked perfectly. We had lots of issues with the default (at that >time) > >3-day lease. > > > >We've also been using Win98 for a couple of years, with that being >the > >only > >OS. So why now after all this time, would Win98 DHCP be a problem ? > > > >Among the issues we are seeing is the subnet mask on these machines >is > >not > >the right one. In some cases, they got 255.0.0.0. In others, they > >got 255.255.255.0. The correct subnet mask is 255.255.0.0. Why >could > >this > >be happening? > > > >What would 100-day leases do for (to?) me when we are re-imaging > >computers? If we reimage a computer about 15 days into a lease, >leaving > > > >the same NIC in there, will it get the same IP address handed to it? > > > >Thanx, > >Mary > > > > > >At 2/20/2003 08:42 AM, Randal, Phil wrote: > > >What's your default DHCP lease duration? > > > > > >http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/10011979.htm > > > >points out DHCP problem with Windows 9x clients. > > > > > >See also > > >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q194790 - >Win9x > > > > >is not RFC2131-compliant. > > > > > >Try dishing out 100 day leases and see if the problem still occurs. > > > > > >Cheers, > > > > > >Phil > > > > > >--------------------------------------------- > > >Phil Randal > > >Network Engineer > > >Herefordshire Council > > >Hereford, UK > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Mary Van Engelen [mailto:maryve1 at starpower.net] > > > > Sent: 20 February 2003 13:32 > > > > To: Novell Discuss > > > > Subject: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 > > > > > > > > > > > > We've been seeing an increase in IP address conflicts since we > > > > started rolling out Win2K in November. Things were fine for a >couple > > > > of months, but > > > > we started getting these conflicts in January and it's growing. >It's > > > > usually a Win98 computer that reports the conflict. When we >check > >the > > > > computer it's conflicting with, it's usually a Win2K > > > > computer. We will be > > > > keeping this mixture of Win98 and Win2K computers for awhile. > > > > > > > > There is a TID that notes the differences between how WinXP and > > > > Win2K > > > > handle DHCP. Is there a difference between Win98 and Win2K > > > > handles it ? > > > > The solution in the TID said to remove the two timing option > > > > handouts. I thought I would try that, however, we are not >handing > > > > out timing options. > > > > > > > > Has anyone else seen this? Is there a fix for it? I've had >this > > > > DHCP configuration running fine for over a year now with an IP > > > > address conflict > > > > maybe once every couple of months. > > > > > > > > NW 5.1 sp5 > > > > DHCP 3.12c > > > > TCPIP 5.91o (domestic - DHCP server is on box running BM 3.6) > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mary > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Novell mailing list > > > > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > > > > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Novell mailing list > > >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Novell mailing list > >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Novell mailing list > >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From John at coastal.edu Mon Feb 24 22:54:52 2003 From: John at coastal.edu (John Hanna) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 17:54:52 -0500 Subject: DHCP Option values Message-ID: <002301c2dc57$c0a094d0$041478c7@ccu03722> Does anyone know how to enter Hex values in the Values field when adding Vender Class identifier option? John Hanna Network Services Manager Coastal Carolina University PO Box 261954 Conway, SC 29528-6054 Phone:(843)349-2150 Fax: (843)349-2990 Email: John at coastal.edu From maryve1 at starpower.net Mon Feb 24 22:59:15 2003 From: maryve1 at starpower.net (Mary Van Engelen) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 17:59:15 -0500 Subject: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20030224170258.01f99400@pop.starpower.net> References: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030224175542.02876940@pop.starpower.net> This is probably a false alarm. I noticed this user has had the same problem for three weeks in a row and no one else is having repeated problems (thank goodness for Track-It), so I went down to the machine myself and looked. Someone had enabled "Use DHCP for WINS Resolution". Mary At 2/24/2003 05:22 PM, Mary Van Engelen wrote: >Well, we found that a DHCP server service was indeed running on a Win2K >test box, although not configured. >Disabled it and did an Etherpeek capture of a couple of release/renews and >the real DHCP was the only one to answer the call. > >Then, this morning a user had a problem on a Win98 machine. > >BEFORE the release/renew we saw that the computer had gotten the subnet >mask 255.255.255.0 and the DHCP server was the correct one. The subnet >mask should have been 255.255.0.0. > >AFTER the release/renew, the same IP address was assigned, as well as the >correct subnet mask. > >Definitely scratching my head on this one. > >Any other ideas? > >Mary > >At 2/21/2003 07:20 AM, Peter Bowers wrote: >>We have discovered that the Apple Airport wireless hub does DHCP by >>default, if someone sets one up on a network, some workstations will pick >>up their address from it, causing connectivity problems. >> >>Hope this helps, >> >> >> >>Peter Bowers, CNE >>Supervisor of Technology Services >>Southwest Regional School Board >>541-3024 >> >> >>> rgaspar at patlq.com 2/20/2003 6:14:21 pm >>> >>if you have access to a sniffer, all you have to do is sniff during an >>IP release/renew, all visible DHCP servers should reply, a DHCP Request >>bcasts to 255.255.255.255 and takes the 1st DHAP ACK it sees that it >>likes, but they all should reply to the request... >> >> >> >> >>________________________ >>Roland Gaspar >>Tel.: (514) 398-7880 xt 8603 >>ICQ # 1355591 >>www.roland-gaspar.com >> >> >> >> >>> maryve1 at starpower.net 02/20/03 05:02PM >>> >>Ya know, that thought occurred to me. I have been assured by the Win2K >> >>server guy that there isn't a DHCP server on any of the Win2K servers. >>Is >>there a way to query the network to see if there is a DHCP server >>someplace? >> >>Mary >> >>At 2/20/2003 04:04 PM, John Hanna wrote: >> >Are you 100% sure that someone else has not setup a DHCP server that >>is >> >handing out mis-information. Believe it or not we had a professor >>here >> >using one computer to proxy a private network he setup off of a >>second >> >NIC he had in the computer. One day a bright student accidentally >>got >> >the network lines reversed and his proxy that was also a DHCP started >> >handing out ip addresses on our network. On another ocassion, a >>student >> >plugged in a mac wireless bridge that did the same thing because it >>was >> >misconfigure to run dhcp services on the network port instead of the >> >wireless side. >> > >> >This may not be the case with you, but I have learned in my years of >> >networking to never discount anything without researching the >> >possibility. >> > >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu >> >[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Mary Van Engelen >> >Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 2:47 PM >> >To: Novell LAN Interest Group >> >Subject: RE: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 >> > >> > >> >We've been using a 7-day lease for about 5 years now. This has always >> >worked perfectly. We had lots of issues with the default (at that >>time) >> >3-day lease. >> > >> >We've also been using Win98 for a couple of years, with that being >>the >> >only >> >OS. So why now after all this time, would Win98 DHCP be a problem ? >> > >> >Among the issues we are seeing is the subnet mask on these machines >>is >> >not >> >the right one. In some cases, they got 255.0.0.0. In others, they >> >got 255.255.255.0. The correct subnet mask is 255.255.0.0. Why >>could >> >this >> >be happening? >> > >> >What would 100-day leases do for (to?) me when we are re-imaging >> >computers? If we reimage a computer about 15 days into a lease, >>leaving >> > >> >the same NIC in there, will it get the same IP address handed to it? >> > >> >Thanx, >> >Mary >> > >> > >> >At 2/20/2003 08:42 AM, Randal, Phil wrote: >> > >What's your default DHCP lease duration? >> > > >> > >http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/10011979.htm >> >> > >points out DHCP problem with Windows 9x clients. >> > > >> > >See also >> > >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q194790 - >>Win9x >> > >> > >is not RFC2131-compliant. >> > > >> > >Try dishing out 100 day leases and see if the problem still occurs. >> > > >> > >Cheers, >> > > >> > >Phil >> > > >> > >--------------------------------------------- >> > >Phil Randal >> > >Network Engineer >> > >Herefordshire Council >> > >Hereford, UK >> > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > From: Mary Van Engelen [mailto:maryve1 at starpower.net] >> > > > Sent: 20 February 2003 13:32 >> > > > To: Novell Discuss >> > > > Subject: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > We've been seeing an increase in IP address conflicts since we >> > > > started rolling out Win2K in November. Things were fine for a >>couple >> > > > of months, but >> > > > we started getting these conflicts in January and it's growing. >>It's >> > > > usually a Win98 computer that reports the conflict. When we >>check >> >the >> > > > computer it's conflicting with, it's usually a Win2K >> > > > computer. We will be >> > > > keeping this mixture of Win98 and Win2K computers for awhile. >> > > > >> > > > There is a TID that notes the differences between how WinXP and >> > > > Win2K >> > > > handle DHCP. Is there a difference between Win98 and Win2K >> > > > handles it ? >> > > > The solution in the TID said to remove the two timing option >> > > > handouts. I thought I would try that, however, we are not >>handing >> > > > out timing options. >> > > > >> > > > Has anyone else seen this? Is there a fix for it? I've had >>this >> > > > DHCP configuration running fine for over a year now with an IP >> > > > address conflict >> > > > maybe once every couple of months. >> > > > >> > > > NW 5.1 sp5 >> > > > DHCP 3.12c >> > > > TCPIP 5.91o (domestic - DHCP server is on box running BM 3.6) >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Thanks, >> > > > Mary >> > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > Novell mailing list >> > > > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >> > > > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >> > > > >> > >_______________________________________________ >> > >Novell mailing list >> > >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >>http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Novell mailing list >> >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >> >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Novell mailing list >> >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >> >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Novell mailing list >>Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >>http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >>_______________________________________________ >>Novell mailing list >>Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >>http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >>_______________________________________________ >>Novell mailing list >>Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >>http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From acquistj at lan.newpaltz.edu Mon Feb 24 23:46:00 2003 From: acquistj at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 18:46:00 -0500 Subject: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 Message-ID: I don't think "use DHCP for WINS resolution" has anything to do with your problem. It merely allows you to have the DHCP server hand out a WINS address along with the other stuff. Saves having to "hard code" WINS server info at each station. WINS is a MS networking thing that assists in finding MS stuff across different subnets. So they say. joea/ ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- Remember: once, everyone "Knew" the world was flat. --------------------------------------------------- >>> maryve1 at starpower.net 02/24/03 18:03 PM >>> This is probably a false alarm. I noticed this user has had the same problem for three weeks in a row and no one else is having repeated problems (thank goodness for Track-It), so I went down to the machine myself and looked. Someone had enabled "Use DHCP for WINS Resolution". Mary At 2/24/2003 05:22 PM, Mary Van Engelen wrote: >Well, we found that a DHCP server service was indeed running on a Win2K >test box, although not configured. >Disabled it and did an Etherpeek capture of a couple of release/renews and >the real DHCP was the only one to answer the call. > >Then, this morning a user had a problem on a Win98 machine. > >BEFORE the release/renew we saw that the computer had gotten the subnet >mask 255.255.255.0 and the DHCP server was the correct one. The subnet >mask should have been 255.255.0.0. > >AFTER the release/renew, the same IP address was assigned, as well as the >correct subnet mask. > >Definitely scratching my head on this one. > >Any other ideas? > >Mary > >At 2/21/2003 07:20 AM, Peter Bowers wrote: >>We have discovered that the Apple Airport wireless hub does DHCP by >>default, if someone sets one up on a network, some workstations will pick >>up their address from it, causing connectivity problems. >> >>Hope this helps, >> >> >> >>Peter Bowers, CNE >>Supervisor of Technology Services >>Southwest Regional School Board >>541-3024 >> >> >>> rgaspar at patlq.com 2/20/2003 6:14:21 pm >>> >>if you have access to a sniffer, all you have to do is sniff during an >>IP release/renew, all visible DHCP servers should reply, a DHCP Request >>bcasts to 255.255.255.255 and takes the 1st DHAP ACK it sees that it >>likes, but they all should reply to the request... >> >> >> >> >>________________________ >>Roland Gaspar >>Tel.: (514) 398-7880 xt 8603 >>ICQ # 1355591 >>www.roland-gaspar.com >> >> >> >> >>> maryve1 at starpower.net 02/20/03 05:02PM >>> >>Ya know, that thought occurred to me. I have been assured by the Win2K >> >>server guy that there isn't a DHCP server on any of the Win2K servers. >>Is >>there a way to query the network to see if there is a DHCP server >>someplace? >> >>Mary >> >>At 2/20/2003 04:04 PM, John Hanna wrote: >> >Are you 100% sure that someone else has not setup a DHCP server that >>is >> >handing out mis-information. Believe it or not we had a professor >>here >> >using one computer to proxy a private network he setup off of a >>second >> >NIC he had in the computer. One day a bright student accidentally >>got >> >the network lines reversed and his proxy that was also a DHCP started >> >handing out ip addresses on our network. On another ocassion, a >>student >> >plugged in a mac wireless bridge that did the same thing because it >>was >> >misconfigure to run dhcp services on the network port instead of the >> >wireless side. >> > >> >This may not be the case with you, but I have learned in my years of >> >networking to never discount anything without researching the >> >possibility. >> > >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu >> >[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Mary Van Engelen >> >Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 2:47 PM >> >To: Novell LAN Interest Group >> >Subject: RE: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 >> > >> > >> >We've been using a 7-day lease for about 5 years now. This has always >> >worked perfectly. We had lots of issues with the default (at that >>time) >> >3-day lease. >> > >> >We've also been using Win98 for a couple of years, with that being >>the >> >only >> >OS. So why now after all this time, would Win98 DHCP be a problem ? >> > >> >Among the issues we are seeing is the subnet mask on these machines >>is >> >not >> >the right one. In some cases, they got 255.0.0.0. In others, they >> >got 255.255.255.0. The correct subnet mask is 255.255.0.0. Why >>could >> >this >> >be happening? >> > >> >What would 100-day leases do for (to?) me when we are re-imaging >> >computers? If we reimage a computer about 15 days into a lease, >>leaving >> > >> >the same NIC in there, will it get the same IP address handed to it? >> > >> >Thanx, >> >Mary >> > >> > >> >At 2/20/2003 08:42 AM, Randal, Phil wrote: >> > >What's your default DHCP lease duration? >> > > >> > >http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/10011979.htm >> >> > >points out DHCP problem with Windows 9x clients. >> > > >> > >See also >> > >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q194790 - >>Win9x >> > >> > >is not RFC2131-compliant. >> > > >> > >Try dishing out 100 day leases and see if the problem still occurs. >> > > >> > >Cheers, >> > > >> > >Phil >> > > >> > >--------------------------------------------- >> > >Phil Randal >> > >Network Engineer >> > >Herefordshire Council >> > >Hereford, UK >> > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > From: Mary Van Engelen [mailto:maryve1 at starpower.net] >> > > > Sent: 20 February 2003 13:32 >> > > > To: Novell Discuss >> > > > Subject: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > We've been seeing an increase in IP address conflicts since we >> > > > started rolling out Win2K in November. Things were fine for a >>couple >> > > > of months, but >> > > > we started getting these conflicts in January and it's growing. >>It's >> > > > usually a Win98 computer that reports the conflict. When we >>check >> >the >> > > > computer it's conflicting with, it's usually a Win2K >> > > > computer. We will be >> > > > keeping this mixture of Win98 and Win2K computers for awhile. >> > > > >> > > > There is a TID that notes the differences between how WinXP and >> > > > Win2K >> > > > handle DHCP. Is there a difference between Win98 and Win2K >> > > > handles it ? >> > > > The solution in the TID said to remove the two timing option >> > > > handouts. I thought I would try that, however, we are not >>handing >> > > > out timing options. >> > > > >> > > > Has anyone else seen this? Is there a fix for it? I've had >>this >> > > > DHCP configuration running fine for over a year now with an IP >> > > > address conflict >> > > > maybe once every couple of months. >> > > > >> > > > NW 5.1 sp5 >> > > > DHCP 3.12c >> > > > TCPIP 5.91o (domestic - DHCP server is on box running BM 3.6) >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Thanks, >> > > > Mary >> > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > Novell mailing list >> > > > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >> > > > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >> > > > >> > >_______________________________________________ >> > >Novell mailing list >> > >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >>http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Novell mailing list >> >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >> >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Novell mailing list >> >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >> >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Novell mailing list >>Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >>http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >>_______________________________________________ >>Novell mailing list >>Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >>http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >>_______________________________________________ >>Novell mailing list >>Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >>http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From dtran at ssc.ucla.edu Tue Feb 25 02:56:40 2003 From: dtran at ssc.ucla.edu (Daniel Tran) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 18:56:40 -0800 Subject: eDirectory 8.7 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001c01c2dc79$851da020$49e56180@hp1> I asked this question several weeks ago. Joe D. response was "wait for the dust to settles". With that said, it doesn't mean that edir8.7 is buggy or unreliable. I trust Joe D. so I will wait. In the mean time, I'll keep it running in the lab / non-production environment. If you want to upgrade from one version to another. I would start the testing in the lab first, it will give a head start when you're ready to do the actual production upgrade. Daniel - dtran at ssc.ucla.edu > -----Original Message----- > From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu > [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Greg Field > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 11:46 AM > To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu > Subject: eDirectory 8.7 > > > We are looking at installing eDirectory 8.7 on our servers > and are wondering if anyone has run into any issues with the > installation or with servers having problems after the > install. Any help or information would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > Greg Field > > > Greg Field, CNA > Junior Network Administrator > University of Health Sciences > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > From maryve1 at starpower.net Tue Feb 25 03:04:04 2003 From: maryve1 at starpower.net (Mary Van Engelen) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 22:04:04 -0500 Subject: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20030224214554.02a2cd50@pop.starpower.net> Since I'm not handing out WINs addresses with DHCP, wouldn't that cause a problem? Maybe there's some default thing that's coming up with the incorrect subnet mask for this system? Of course, maybe not enough time has passed to tell if disabling the DHCP service on that W2K server has had an effect. Mary At 2/24/2003 06:46 PM, Joe Acquisto wrote: >I don't think "use DHCP for WINS resolution" has anything to do with your >problem. > >It merely allows you to have the DHCP server hand out a WINS address along >with the other stuff. Saves having to "hard code" WINS server info at >each station. > >WINS is a MS networking thing that assists in finding MS stuff across >different subnets. So they say. > >joea/ > >----------------------------------------- >Joe Acquisto >SUNY New Paltz >845-257-3134 (V) >845-257-6900 (F) >--------------------------------------------------- >Remember: once, everyone >"Knew" the world was flat. >--------------------------------------------------- > > >>> maryve1 at starpower.net 02/24/03 18:03 PM >>> >This is probably a false alarm. I noticed this user has had the same >problem for three weeks in a row and no one else is having repeated >problems (thank goodness for Track-It), so I went down to the machine >myself and looked. Someone had enabled "Use DHCP for WINS Resolution". > >Mary > >At 2/24/2003 05:22 PM, Mary Van Engelen wrote: > >Well, we found that a DHCP server service was indeed running on a Win2K > >test box, although not configured. > >Disabled it and did an Etherpeek capture of a couple of release/renews and > >the real DHCP was the only one to answer the call. > > > >Then, this morning a user had a problem on a Win98 machine. > > > >BEFORE the release/renew we saw that the computer had gotten the subnet > >mask 255.255.255.0 and the DHCP server was the correct one. The subnet > >mask should have been 255.255.0.0. > > > >AFTER the release/renew, the same IP address was assigned, as well as the > >correct subnet mask. > > > >Definitely scratching my head on this one. > > > >Any other ideas? > > > >Mary > > > >At 2/21/2003 07:20 AM, Peter Bowers wrote: > >>We have discovered that the Apple Airport wireless hub does DHCP by > >>default, if someone sets one up on a network, some workstations will pick > >>up their address from it, causing connectivity problems. > >> > >>Hope this helps, > >> > >> > >> > >>Peter Bowers, CNE > >>Supervisor of Technology Services > >>Southwest Regional School Board > >>541-3024 > >> > >> >>> rgaspar at patlq.com 2/20/2003 6:14:21 pm >>> > >>if you have access to a sniffer, all you have to do is sniff during an > >>IP release/renew, all visible DHCP servers should reply, a DHCP Request > >>bcasts to 255.255.255.255 and takes the 1st DHAP ACK it sees that it > >>likes, but they all should reply to the request... > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>________________________ > >>Roland Gaspar > >>Tel.: (514) 398-7880 xt 8603 > >>ICQ # 1355591 > >>www.roland-gaspar.com > >> > >> > >> > >> >>> maryve1 at starpower.net 02/20/03 05:02PM >>> > >>Ya know, that thought occurred to me. I have been assured by the Win2K > >> > >>server guy that there isn't a DHCP server on any of the Win2K servers. > >>Is > >>there a way to query the network to see if there is a DHCP server > >>someplace? > >> > >>Mary > >> > >>At 2/20/2003 04:04 PM, John Hanna wrote: > >> >Are you 100% sure that someone else has not setup a DHCP server that > >>is > >> >handing out mis-information. Believe it or not we had a professor > >>here > >> >using one computer to proxy a private network he setup off of a > >>second > >> >NIC he had in the computer. One day a bright student accidentally > >>got > >> >the network lines reversed and his proxy that was also a DHCP started > >> >handing out ip addresses on our network. On another ocassion, a > >>student > >> >plugged in a mac wireless bridge that did the same thing because it > >>was > >> >misconfigure to run dhcp services on the network port instead of the > >> >wireless side. > >> > > >> >This may not be the case with you, but I have learned in my years of > >> >networking to never discount anything without researching the > >> >possibility. > >> > > >> >-----Original Message----- > >> >From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu > >> >[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu] On Behalf Of Mary Van Engelen > >> >Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 2:47 PM > >> >To: Novell LAN Interest Group > >> >Subject: RE: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 > >> > > >> > > >> >We've been using a 7-day lease for about 5 years now. This has always > >> >worked perfectly. We had lots of issues with the default (at that > >>time) > >> >3-day lease. > >> > > >> >We've also been using Win98 for a couple of years, with that being > >>the > >> >only > >> >OS. So why now after all this time, would Win98 DHCP be a problem ? > >> > > >> >Among the issues we are seeing is the subnet mask on these machines > >>is > >> >not > >> >the right one. In some cases, they got 255.0.0.0. In others, they > >> >got 255.255.255.0. The correct subnet mask is 255.255.0.0. Why > >>could > >> >this > >> >be happening? > >> > > >> >What would 100-day leases do for (to?) me when we are re-imaging > >> >computers? If we reimage a computer about 15 days into a lease, > >>leaving > >> > > >> >the same NIC in there, will it get the same IP address handed to it? > >> > > >> >Thanx, > >> >Mary > >> > > >> > > >> >At 2/20/2003 08:42 AM, Randal, Phil wrote: > >> > >What's your default DHCP lease duration? > >> > > > >> > >http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/10011979.htm > >> > >> > >points out DHCP problem with Windows 9x clients. > >> > > > >> > >See also > >> > >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q194790 - > >>Win9x > >> > > >> > >is not RFC2131-compliant. > >> > > > >> > >Try dishing out 100 day leases and see if the problem still occurs. > >> > > > >> > >Cheers, > >> > > > >> > >Phil > >> > > > >> > >--------------------------------------------- > >> > >Phil Randal > >> > >Network Engineer > >> > >Herefordshire Council > >> > >Hereford, UK > >> > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- > >> > > > From: Mary Van Engelen [mailto:maryve1 at starpower.net] > >> > > > Sent: 20 February 2003 13:32 > >> > > > To: Novell Discuss > >> > > > Subject: DHCP and Win2K and Win98 > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > We've been seeing an increase in IP address conflicts since we > >> > > > started rolling out Win2K in November. Things were fine for a > >>couple > >> > > > of months, but > >> > > > we started getting these conflicts in January and it's growing. > >>It's > >> > > > usually a Win98 computer that reports the conflict. When we > >>check > >> >the > >> > > > computer it's conflicting with, it's usually a Win2K > >> > > > computer. We will be > >> > > > keeping this mixture of Win98 and Win2K computers for awhile. > >> > > > > >> > > > There is a TID that notes the differences between how WinXP and > >> > > > Win2K > >> > > > handle DHCP. Is there a difference between Win98 and Win2K > >> > > > handles it ? > >> > > > The solution in the TID said to remove the two timing option > >> > > > handouts. I thought I would try that, however, we are not > >>handing > >> > > > out timing options. > >> > > > > >> > > > Has anyone else seen this? Is there a fix for it? I've had > >>this > >> > > > DHCP configuration running fine for over a year now with an IP > >> > > > address conflict > >> > > > maybe once every couple of months. > >> > > > > >> > > > NW 5.1 sp5 > >> > > > DHCP 3.12c > >> > > > TCPIP 5.91o (domestic - DHCP server is on box running BM 3.6) > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Thanks, > >> > > > Mary > >> > > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > > Novell mailing list > >> > > > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > >> > > > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > >> > > > > >> > >_______________________________________________ > >> > >Novell mailing list > >> > >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > >>http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > >> > > >> >_______________________________________________ > >> >Novell mailing list > >> >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > >> > >> > > >> >_______________________________________________ > >> >Novell mailing list > >> >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > >> >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Novell mailing list > >>Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > >>http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Novell mailing list > >>Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > >>http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Novell mailing list > >>Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > >>http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Novell mailing list > >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.usu.edu >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From AHidalgo at salud.unm.edu Tue Feb 25 14:08:19 2003 From: AHidalgo at salud.unm.edu (Al Hidalgo) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 07:08:19 -0700 Subject: eDirectory 8.7 Message-ID: 8.7 is pretty stable with the FP1 patch. We are using it in a production tree with 8000 users. Al Al Hidalgo, MCNE Senior Analyst Information Systems University Hospitals ahidalgo at salud.unm.edu >>> "Daniel Tran" 2/24/03 7:56:40 PM >>> I asked this question several weeks ago. Joe D. response was "wait for the dust to settles". With that said, it doesn't mean that edir8.7 is buggy or unreliable. I trust Joe D. so I will wait. In the mean time, I'll keep it running in the lab / non-production environment. If you want to upgrade from one version to another. I would start the testing in the lab first, it will give a head start when you're ready to do the actual production upgrade. 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However, a few users show up as unknown. I have looked at the TIDs but can't find any useful information. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks. Patrick Hasenjager Technical Support Specialist Frankel, Zacharia, Arnold, Nissen, Stamp & Reinsch, LLC Main: (402) 496-9100 Desk: (402) 963-4340 Fax: (402) 496-1024 phasenjager at fzacpa.com ************************************************************************** This e-mail and any attachments are intended only for the addressee. If you are not the addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail or attachments. Please immediately notify the sender if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete it from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. 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Books perhaps? Vendor literature? Hugo From cmoore01 at myrealbox.com Wed Feb 26 03:27:38 2003 From: cmoore01 at myrealbox.com (Chris Moore) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 21:27:38 -0600 Subject: Ethernet references Message-ID: <1046230058.daa55c00cmoore01@myrealbox.com> I would be interested in hearing about this also, so if anyone knows of any good references, please do tell. -----Original Message----- From: HB To: Novell LAN Interest Group Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 22:21:31 -0500 Subject: Ethernet references I'm looking to educate myself on Ethernet network design. I'd like to gain a better understanding of how much I can oversubscribe a given switch, how that fits in to a distributed collapsed backbone network with a central switch, how I should size the central switch, etc. Are there any Internet resources that cover this aspect of networking? Books perhaps? Vendor literature? Hugo _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From zzz at mctc.mnscu.edu Wed Feb 26 05:43:28 2003 From: zzz at mctc.mnscu.edu (zzz) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 23:43:28 -0600 Subject: Ethernet references Message-ID: This may not be the easiest starting point, but there is a wealth of info at www.cisco.com/tac if you really want some technical info. I think you will have to register and I don't know the qualifiers, as we are a Cisco site. But I think they let just about anyone register. Once you are in, if you are motivated and get used to the search engine, you can spend hours and hours learning through white papers, product specs, etc. Thanks Dana >>> hbueno at optonline.net 02/25/03 09:21PM >>> I'm looking to educate myself on Ethernet network design. I'd like to gain a better understanding of how much I can oversubscribe a given switch, how that fits in to a distributed collapsed backbone network with a central switch, how I should size the central switch, etc. Are there any Internet resources that cover this aspect of networking? Books perhaps? Vendor literature? Hugo _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From nils-eivind.naas at samfunnsforskning.no Wed Feb 26 09:09:36 2003 From: nils-eivind.naas at samfunnsforskning.no (Nils-Eivind Naas) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 10:09:36 +0100 Subject: Ethernet references In-Reply-To: <1046230058.daa55c00cmoore01@myrealbox.com> Message-ID: <3E5C9260.2496.35AAAE@localhost> > I'm looking to educate myself on Ethernet network design. Try: The Switch Book: The Complete Guide to LAN Switching Technology by Rich Seifert # Hardcover: 720 pages ; Dimensions (in inches): 1.74 x 9.52 x 7.76 # Publisher: John Wiley & Sons; 1 edition (June 27, 2000) # ISBN: 0471345865 Gigabit Ethernet : Technology and Applications for High-Speed LANs by Rich Seifert # Hardcover: 411 pages ; Dimensions (in inches): 1.01 x 9.52 x 7.60 # Publisher: Addison-Wesley Pub Co; 1st edition (April 21, 1998) # ISBN: 0201185539 And: Ethernet: The Definitive Guide Author: Charles E. Spurgeon Publisher: O'Reilly and Associates 520 pp with index and glossary Includes 135 figures and 36 tables On the Web: Charles Spurgeon's Ethernet Web Site: http://www.ethermanage.com/ethernet/ethernet.html Enjoy! -- Nils-Eivind Naas Oslo From smf34 at cam.ac.uk Wed Feb 26 10:50:08 2003 From: smf34 at cam.ac.uk (Simon Flood) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 10:50:08 +0000 Subject: How to totally disable NCP on second NIC IP ADDRESS References: Message-ID: <3E5C9BE0.9B6A10A7@cam.ac.uk> On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 12:31:46 -0500 Al Bray wrote: > xxx.xxx.xxx.11 is the ip address of the first NIC that we want to with > NCP only. > > xxx.xxx.xxx.18 is the ip address of the second NIC that we want to use > with CIFS only. > > Used Server Paramaters in Monitor to set: > > NCP Exclude IP Addresses xxx.xxx.xxx.18 > NCP Include IP Addresses xxx.xxx.xxx.11 >From the SET command, option 8: --begin-- NCP Exclude IP Addresses: NONE Maximum length: 190 Can be set in the startup ncf file. Description: Specify IP addresses over which NCP is disabled. All other IP addresses on this server will accept NCP traffic. 'NONE' may be specified to indicate that no bound IP addresses on this server will disable NCP, 'ALL' may be specified to disable NCP on all bound IP addresses on this server. Addresses listed here have priority over the 'Set NCP Include IP Addresses' command. NCP Include IP Addresses: ALL Maximum length: 190 Can be set in the startup ncf file. Description: Specify IP addresses over which NCP is enabled. All other IP addresses on this server will ignore NCP traffic. 'NONE' may be specified to indicate that NCP is disabled on all IP addresses. 'ALL' may bespecified to enable NCP over all bound IP addresses on this server. ---end--- What happens if you keep the 'NCP Include IP Addresses = xxx.xxx.xxx.11' but reset 'NCP Exclude IP Addresses' back to 'NONE'? We have servers with multiple NICs & multiple IP addresses and we're only including IP addresses to listen for NCP. HTH Simon From peschmid at mpsomaha.org Wed Feb 26 16:24:25 2003 From: peschmid at mpsomaha.org (Patrick Schmidt) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 10:24:25 -0600 Subject: Can't get Dirxml driver to load Message-ID: Greetings: I am in the process of installing Novell Account Management 3.0 in our edirectory 8.7 world. I've created the dirxml driver but can't get it to load for the life of me. The log tells me the following: Error 1: Wed Feb 26 08:13:52 CST 2003 Error = -288 [0xFFFFFEE0] Unable to bind DirXML Driver \MPS_TREE\MIL\SSC\XMLSet\ASAMDriver TID 10065334 tells me to make sure that : 1. the jvm is operational (it is) 2. the jar files are in sys:\system\lib (this folder and other java files and folders are identical to our testlan, where I WAS able to make this work) 3. configuration parameters and passwords are correct in the driver (I believe they are, again compared to testlan) 4. the server is not overloaded (it's not). I've applied field patches for edir and for dirxml. No luck so far. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. Thanks -------------------------------------------------- Patrick Schmidt Millard Public Schools Network Support Specialist (402)894-6278 peschmid at mpsomaha.org --------------------------------------------------- From rgaspar at patlq.com Wed Feb 26 17:03:33 2003 From: rgaspar at patlq.com (Roland Gaspar) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 12:03:33 -0500 Subject: Totally OT: Onboard NICs Message-ID: Hi there, figured I'd ask here... for years, I've been putting noting but 3Com NICs in all servers / workstations I have control over. lately, I've been buying workstations, and it's getting harder and harder to find motherboards w/o onboard LAN... Any horror stories about onboard NICs? or am I just paranoid? should I drop my 3c905 addiction and go onboard for workstations? TIA, ________________________ Roland Gaspar Tel.: (514) 398-7880 xt 8603 ICQ # 1355591 www.roland-gaspar.com From ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu Wed Feb 26 17:03:04 2003 From: ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 12:03:04 -0500 Subject: nw65 beta Message-ID: NW65 beta, public yet? Download from? ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- Remember: once, everyone "Knew" the world was flat. --------------------------------------------------- From andy_raynor at ncsu.edu Wed Feb 26 17:06:54 2003 From: andy_raynor at ncsu.edu (Andy Raynor) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 12:06:54 -0500 Subject: nw65 beta Message-ID: Sigh. A very bad caffeinless morning. GroupWise 6.5 beta, not NetWare. Sorry if I got everyone's juices flowing. >>> ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu 02/26/03 12:03PM >>> From: ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 12:03 PM To: Subject: nw65 beta Priority: Normal NW65 beta, public yet? Download from? ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- Remember: once, everyone "Knew" the world was flat. --------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From JRD at cc.usu.edu Wed Feb 26 16:25:48 2003 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 10:25:48 -0600 (MDT) Subject: nw65 beta Message-ID: <01KSW2G35HHKAYMEIP@cc.usu.edu> >NW65 beta, public yet? Download from? > >----------------------------------------- >Joe Acquisto >SUNY New Paltz >845-257-3134 (V) >845-257-6900 (F) ----------- Not yet. Brainshare time. Joe D. From bud at moldriteplastics.com Wed Feb 26 17:26:33 2003 From: bud at moldriteplastics.com (Bud Durland) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 12:26:33 -0500 Subject: Totally OT: Onboard NICs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3E5CF8C9.2000801@moldriteplastics.com> Roland Gaspar wrote: >Hi there, figured I'd ask here... for years, I've been putting noting >but 3Com NICs in all servers / workstations I have control over. >lately, I've been buying workstations, and it's getting harder and >harder to find motherboards w/o onboard LAN... > I've used several servers w/ on-board NICs with no trouble (or at least, no more trouble than with add-on cards). Most that I've seen use Intel silicon, which generally works well. >should I >drop my 3c905 addiction and go onboard for workstations? > IMHO, you should have dropped that addiction long ago, but that can be a whole conversation in itself :) . I use Intel cards whenever possilbe, NetGear when price is a consideration. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- If Bill Gates had a nickel for every time windows crashed.... Oh wait -- he does! --------------------------------------------------------------------- Bud Durland, CNE Mold-Rite Plastics Network Administrator http://www.mrpcap.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From dbphilos at rz.uni-duesseldorf.de Wed Feb 26 17:35:59 2003 From: dbphilos at rz.uni-duesseldorf.de (Hans Nellissen) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 18:35:59 +0100 Subject: Totally OT: Onboard NICs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030226183447.02282cd0@mail.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de> At 12:03 26.02.2003 -0500, you wrote: >lately, I've been buying workstations, and it's getting harder and >harder to find motherboards w/o onboard LAN... > >Any horror stories about onboard NICs? or am I just paranoid? should I >drop my 3c905 addiction and go onboard for workstations? I got an information from Novell Sysop. Take a look at this: http://nscsysop.hypermart.net/b57.html Hans Nellissen ---------------------------------------------------------------- Heinrich-Heine-Universitaet Email:dbphilos at mail.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de Meinungsaeusserungen im vorliegenden Text stellen allein den Standpunkt des Autors dar und lassen keine Rueckschluesse auf seinen Arbeitgeber zu. Expressions of opinion in the available text represent only the point of view of the author and permit no conclusions on its employer. From dmoon at peru.k12.in.us Wed Feb 26 17:43:55 2003 From: dmoon at peru.k12.in.us (Dave Moon) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 12:43:55 -0500 Subject: off topic: Star Office Message-ID: We are looking at star office. Can someone point me to a good listserv for it. The support websites I find lacking. Thanks Dave Dave Moon Peru Community Schools 401 N. Broadway Peru, IN 46970 765-473-3081 fax 765-472-5156 From chad at Capitalcityfruit.com Wed Feb 26 17:53:25 2003 From: chad at Capitalcityfruit.com (Chad Leeper) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 11:53:25 -0600 Subject: off topic: Star Office Message-ID: Are you going to integrate it with GW doc management? What are you using now for an office suite? >>> dmoon at peru.k12.in.us 2/26/03 11:43:55 AM >>> We are looking at star office. Can someone point me to a good listserv for it. The support websites I find lacking. Thanks Dave Dave Moon Peru Community Schools 401 N. Broadway Peru, IN 46970 765-473-3081 fax 765-472-5156 _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jdisett at salisbury.edu Wed Feb 26 18:42:48 2003 From: jdisett at salisbury.edu (Jonathan Isett) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 13:42:48 -0500 Subject: Totally OT: Onboard NICs Message-ID: Speaking from my own experience with Dell servers and on-board nics (10/100/1000 Broadcom netextreme to be exact), I would recommend that you go with a separate nic and not use the on-board one. Most of the nics that you can buy that are decent, IE Intel PRO 100 or PRO 1000 XTs for servers are not expensive (<$100) and definitely easier to replace than an entire motherboard which is what happens if the on-board nic goes bad. PLUS I have an issue right now with the on-board broadcoms not talking to my gigabit network. The intel cards (1000XT) are fine, no problems at all, the on-board broadcoms just wont sync with the gigabit network at all. This is unacceptable as far as I'm concerned. The cards do work ok if plugged into a 10/100 port. And the worst part right now is that Dell has a knowledge base article about those cards and doesn't have a resolution yet. Separate nics are the way to go Jonathan Isett Network Administrator Salisbury University jdisett at salisbury.edu >>> dbphilos at rz.uni-duesseldorf.de 02/26/03 12:35PM >>> At 12:03 26.02.2003 -0500, you wrote: >lately, I've been buying workstations, and it's getting harder and >harder to find motherboards w/o onboard LAN... > >Any horror stories about onboard NICs? or am I just paranoid? should I >drop my 3c905 addiction and go onboard for workstations? I got an information from Novell Sysop. Take a look at this: http://nscsysop.hypermart.net/b57.html Hans Nellissen ---------------------------------------------------------------- Heinrich-Heine-Universitaet Email:dbphilos at mail.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de Meinungsaeusserungen im vorliegenden Text stellen allein den Standpunkt des Autors dar und lassen keine Rueckschluesse auf seinen Arbeitgeber zu. Expressions of opinion in the available text represent only the point of view of the author and permit no conclusions on its employer. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From jonbrath at ix.netcom.com Wed Feb 26 16:56:44 2003 From: jonbrath at ix.netcom.com (jonbrath at ix.netcom.com) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 11:56:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: How to totally disable NCP on second NIC IP ADDRESS Message-ID: <526484.1046289406238.JavaMail.nobody@bert.psp.pas.earthlink.net> unsubscribe -------Original Message------- From: Simon Flood Sent: 02/26/03 05:50 AM To: Novell LAN Interest Group Subject: Re: How to totally disable NCP on second NIC IP ADDRESS > > On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 12:31:46 -0500 Al Bray wrote: > xxx.xxx.xxx.11 is the ip address of the first NIC that we want to with > NCP only. > > xxx.xxx.xxx.18 is the ip address of the second NIC that we want to use > with CIFS only. > > Used Server Paramaters in Monitor to set: > > NCP Exclude IP Addresses xxx.xxx.xxx.18 > NCP Include IP Addresses xxx.xxx.xxx.11 >From the SET command, option 8: --begin-- NCP Exclude IP Addresses: NONE Maximum length: 190 Can be set in the startup ncf file. Description: Specify IP addresses over which NCP is disabled. All other IP addresses on this server will accept NCP traffic. 'NONE' may be specified to indicate that no bound IP addresses on this server will disable NCP, 'ALL' may be specified to disable NCP on all bound IP addresses on this server. Addresses listed here have priority over the 'Set NCP Include IP Addresses' command. NCP Include IP Addresses: ALL Maximum length: 190 Can be set in the startup ncf file. Description: Specify IP addresses over which NCP is enabled. All other IP addresses on this server will ignore NCP traffic. 'NONE' may be specified to indicate that NCP is disabled on all IP addresses. 'ALL' may bespecified to enable NCP over all bound IP addresses on this server. ---end--- What happens if you keep the 'NCP Include IP Addresses = xxx.xxx.xxx.11' but reset 'NCP Exclude IP Addresses' back to 'NONE'? We have servers with multiple NICs & multiple IP addresses and we're only including IP addresses to listen for NCP. HTH Simon _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > From plasthermo at prodigy.net.mx Wed Feb 26 21:21:41 2003 From: plasthermo at prodigy.net.mx (Plasthermo, S.A. de C.V.) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 15:21:41 -0600 Subject: How to know IP adresses of stations? References: <3E5BA231.405@konts.lv> Message-ID: <001c01c2dddd$0e831de0$1302a8c0@Alfonso> Hi all, Thanks in advance for any suggestions: We are using nlist user /a to know wich users are connected to our 4.11 netware server, and get the user name, address and node info, but we'd like to know additionaly the IP address of each computer. We have a router as a DHCP server, and in the administration and monitoring program provided by router manufacturer, we are able to see only the "last" connections made, not all IP numbers assigned. Is there any simple and easy way to know ALL IP addresses? Thanks, Alfonso Guti?rrez From bob.brownell at ig.state.ny.us Wed Feb 26 21:45:17 2003 From: bob.brownell at ig.state.ny.us (Bob Brownell) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 16:45:17 -0500 Subject: How to know IP adresses of stations? Message-ID: If the workstations are windows 98 you could try a line like the following in your login script: #c:\windows\WINIPCFG /ALL /BATCH u:\%LOGIN_NAME.OUT I've only tested this in my personal script and it works. The U: drive is my personal drive. I believe you can write this to a drive that everyone has and get a file for each user. Another utility I tested is found on www.lexacorp.com.pg under free software. The program I tested was called "log". Once again, this seemed to work in my personal script on a Win98 machine. I learned of it through this list a couple of years ago. We never ended up testing these network wide, so I can't guarantee any results. But, it may be a start for you. Bob >>> plasthermo at prodigy.net.mx 02/26/03 04:21PM >>> Hi all, Thanks in advance for any suggestions: We are using nlist user /a to know wich users are connected to our 4.11 netware server, and get the user name, address and node info, but we'd like to know additionaly the IP address of each computer. We have a router as a DHCP server, and in the administration and monitoring program provided by router manufacturer, we are able to see only the "last" connections made, not all IP numbers assigned. Is there any simple and easy way to know ALL IP addresses? Thanks, Alfonso Guti?rrez _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From carter at ipfw.edu Wed Feb 26 21:51:49 2003 From: carter at ipfw.edu (Jean-Paul Carter) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 16:51:49 -0500 Subject: How to know IP adresses of stations? Message-ID: Matching them up would require dumping the dhcp tables with mac addresses and comparing that against the login info. With everyone on IP login instead of IPX the users.exe program we use displays there ip address. If you just want to find all of the ip addresses active on your network, then a simple program like super scanner from www.foundstone.com works great. >>> plasthermo at prodigy.net.mx 02/26/03 04:21PM >>> Hi all, Thanks in advance for any suggestions: We are using nlist user /a to know wich users are connected to our 4.11 netware server, and get the user name, address and node info, but we'd like to know additionaly the IP address of each computer. We have a router as a DHCP server, and in the administration and monitoring program provided by router manufacturer, we are able to see only the "last" connections made, not all IP numbers assigned. Is there any simple and easy way to know ALL IP addresses? Thanks, Alfonso Guti?rrez _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From carter at ipfw.edu Wed Feb 26 21:57:08 2003 From: carter at ipfw.edu (Jean-Paul Carter) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 16:57:08 -0500 Subject: How to know IP adresses of stations? Message-ID: Along those lines of loggin when a user logs in, you can get WEBLOG from the novell coolsolutions download area. It creates a log file for each user and for each workstation. So you go to the log dir and find the username and that log file will have every station the user loged into like: 10-25-2002,13:16:49,00:03:47:35:E9:04,149.164.10.16,ot9332k The workstations are named based on the machine name, so an example of that is: 12-06-2002,14:22:05,00:03:47:0C:65:29,149.164.26.236,tech,ITS.FA.IPFW Then it also does a complete log: 10-25-2002,13:16:49,00:03:47:35:E9:04,149.164.10.16,ot9332k,carter,ITS.FA.IPFW So you easily find who loged in where and at what time. John Carter Senior Network Systems Programmer ITServices Indiana Purdue University Ft. Wayne 2101 Coliseum Blvd Ft. Wayne IN 46805 260 481-5473 260 481-4152 fax carter at ipfw.edu >>> bob.brownell at ig.state.ny.us 02/26/03 04:45PM >>> If the workstations are windows 98 you could try a line like the following in your login script: #c:\windows\WINIPCFG /ALL /BATCH u:\%LOGIN_NAME.OUT I've only tested this in my personal script and it works. The U: drive is my personal drive. I believe you can write this to a drive that everyone has and get a file for each user. Another utility I tested is found on www.lexacorp.com.pg under free software. The program I tested was called "log". Once again, this seemed to work in my personal script on a Win98 machine. I learned of it through this list a couple of years ago. We never ended up testing these network wide, so I can't guarantee any results. But, it may be a start for you. Bob >>> plasthermo at prodigy.net.mx 02/26/03 04:21PM >>> Hi all, Thanks in advance for any suggestions: We are using nlist user /a to know wich users are connected to our 4.11 netware server, and get the user name, address and node info, but we'd like to know additionaly the IP address of each computer. We have a router as a DHCP server, and in the administration and monitoring program provided by router manufacturer, we are able to see only the "last" connections made, not all IP numbers assigned. Is there any simple and easy way to know ALL IP addresses? Thanks, Alfonso Guti?rrez _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From gordon.christie at centrelink.gov.au Wed Feb 26 22:45:57 2003 From: gordon.christie at centrelink.gov.au (gordon.christie at centrelink.gov.au) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 09:45:57 +1100 Subject: Totally OT: Onboard NICs Message-ID: You might want to note, the the web page is slightly wrong. It mentsions that version 2.38 of the driver is a beta driver. I can assure you it is not. It has been tested and approved by Novell, according to their web site. Somthing else to note about the 2.38 driver, which is why I needed it, is that it uses the hardware MAC address (strange concept I know) where as the previous drivers, (2.32 and 2.29 confirmed) used a soft MAC address. Yes I know I could overrode it, but with automatic configuration of over 400 netware servers we did not want to modify our systems to cope with an driver that went backwards in capability instead of forwards. Gordon Christie Centrelink Australia Hans Nellissen seldorf.de> cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: Totally OT: Onboard NICs novell-bounces at netlab 1.usu.edu 27/02/2003 04:35 Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group At 12:03 26.02.2003 -0500, you wrote: >lately, I've been buying workstations, and it's getting harder and >harder to find motherboards w/o onboard LAN... > >Any horror stories about onboard NICs? or am I just paranoid? should I >drop my 3c905 addiction and go onboard for workstations? I got an information from Novell Sysop. Take a look at this: http://nscsysop.hypermart.net/b57.html Hans Nellissen ---------------------------------------------------------------- Heinrich-Heine-Universitaet Email:dbphilos at mail.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de Meinungsaeusserungen im vorliegenden Text stellen allein den Standpunkt des Autors dar und lassen keine Rueckschluesse auf seinen Arbeitgeber zu. Expressions of opinion in the available text represent only the point of view of the author and permit no conclusions on its employer. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell Important: This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is confidential, commercially valuable or subject to legal or parliamentary privilege. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that any review, re-transmission, disclosure, use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited by several Commonwealth Acts of Parliament. If you have received this communication in error please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this transmission together with any attachments. From brett.wheeler at daramalanc.act.edu.au Wed Feb 26 23:50:43 2003 From: brett.wheeler at daramalanc.act.edu.au (Brett Wheeler) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 10:50:43 +1100 Subject: off topic: Star Office In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Have a look at www.openoffice.org. Brett Wheeler Network Administrator Daramalan College Dickson ACT 2602 Australia Mob (+61) 0417 228 714 email brett.wheelerATdaramalanc.act.edu.au **************************** * Only the good die young, * * I love my immortality. * **************************** > -----Original Message----- > From: novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu > [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.usu.edu]On Behalf Of Dave Moon > Sent: Thursday, 27 February 2003 4:44 AM > To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu > Subject: off topic: Star Office > > > We are looking at star office. Can someone point me to a good > listserv for it. > > The support websites I find lacking. > > Thanks > > Dave > > Dave Moon > Peru Community Schools > 401 N. Broadway > Peru, IN 46970 > 765-473-3081 > fax 765-472-5156 > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > From MolM at cvxmck.edu.au Wed Feb 26 23:50:05 2003 From: MolM at cvxmck.edu.au (Michael Mollard) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 09:50:05 +1000 Subject: MAP UNC weirdness Message-ID: <3E5DDF4D.4013.85AE98@localhost> Hi all, I've searched novell's kbase and can't seem to find a solution to this one. I have NW6(sp2) servers with edir 8.6.2(sp2a). Clients are W2k (sp3) with C4.83sp1. 2 servers - LAB and ADM Volumes are in NDS (LAB_VOL1, ADM_VOL1) When users do a MAP N \\LAB\VOL2\ or a MAP N .LAB_VOL2.LAB.CVX: they get Drive G: = .ADM_VOL2.ADM.CVX: (incorrect) G: then functions fully and normally as ADM_VOL2: If I do MAP N .ADM_VOL2.LAB.CVX: it works correctly and returns Drive G: = .ADM_VOL2.ADM.CVX: (Correct) The user has full rights over both file and NDS. If I do the same thing on my XP-Pro box it works fine. I have tried various machines. DS has been repaired many times. Has anyone seen this? Any pointers on why/how this is happening? Thanks. Michael Mollard - Network Administrator Clairvaux MacKillop College, Brisbane Qld Australia (Direct) +61 7 3347 4607 (Ph ) +61 7 3349 8977 (Fax) +61 7 3349 5677 From plasthermo at prodigy.net.mx Thu Feb 27 00:07:40 2003 From: plasthermo at prodigy.net.mx (Plasthermo, S.A. de C.V.) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 18:07:40 -0600 Subject: How to know IP adresses of stations? SOLVED! References: <3E5BA231.405@konts.lv> <001c01c2dddd$0e831de0$1302a8c0@Alfonso> Message-ID: <004101c2ddf4$3e9f4820$1302a8c0@Alfonso> Hi all, Thanks for the responses, I solved my problem with a little and free program http://www.angryziber.com/ipscan/ [ little in size, not in funcionality ;-) ] I post this link because I think others may need it. Thanks, Alfonso Guti?rrez From zzz at mctc.mnscu.edu Thu Feb 27 00:48:37 2003 From: zzz at mctc.mnscu.edu (zzz) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 18:48:37 -0600 Subject: Totally OT: Onboard NICs Message-ID: For servers, we buy COMPAQ, and now use the onboard NICs that are on them on the servers that have 100 MEG connections. No problems yet here. We consider most user workstations a commodity, and simply buy boxes with INTEL motherboards that have everything on board, including the INTEL NIC. I don't remember any case where we had a documented NIC failure or NIC problems that were hardware related out of the last couple thousand boxes we purchased. For service reason, I prefer the "everything on board" approach, as we simply swap motherboards whenever we have problems, rather than doing a lot of troubleshooting. Thanks Dana >>> rgaspar at patlq.com 02/26/03 11:03AM >>> Hi there, figured I'd ask here... for years, I've been putting noting but 3Com NICs in all servers / workstations I have control over. lately, I've been buying workstations, and it's getting harder and harder to find motherboards w/o onboard LAN... Any horror stories about onboard NICs? or am I just paranoid? should I drop my 3c905 addiction and go onboard for workstations? TIA, ________________________ Roland Gaspar Tel.: (514) 398-7880 xt 8603 ICQ # 1355591 www.roland-gaspar.com _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From zzz at mctc.mnscu.edu Thu Feb 27 00:55:47 2003 From: zzz at mctc.mnscu.edu (zzz) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 18:55:47 -0600 Subject: Totally OT: Onboard NICs Message-ID: >Roland Gaspar wrote: > >>Hi there, figured I'd ask here... for years, I've been putting noting >>but 3Com NICs in all servers / workstations I have control over. >>lately, I've been buying workstations, and it's getting harder and >>harder to find motherboards w/o onboard LAN... >> > > >I've used several servers w/ on-board NICs with no trouble (or at least, >no more trouble than with add-on cards). Most that I've seen use Intel >silicon, which generally works well. > >>should I >>drop my 3c905 addiction and go onboard for workstations? >> > >IMHO, you should have dropped that addiction long ago, but that can be a >whole conversation in itself :) I was addicted once myself to the 3OM cards. I "recovered" from the 3COM "addiction" a few years ago. For my sites, the "everything on board" approach is much easier for us to support in the field. Thanks Dana From JRD at cc.usu.edu Thu Feb 27 00:46:40 2003 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 18:46:40 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Totally OT: Onboard NICs Message-ID: <01KSWJT99RHAAYMEFL@cc.usu.edu> >I was addicted once myself to the 3OM cards. >I "recovered" from the 3COM "addiction" a few years ago. Good, welcome back, and you look much better now. >For my sites, the "everything on board" approach is much easier for us >to support in the field. >Thanks >Dana Folks are presuming too much. Take today's popular boards and discover RealTek Ethernet chips. Those are horrible devices, really bad. When they are soldered on then you must change the motherboard rather than swap NIC cards. I much prefer to swap small things. I also don't subsidize HPaq's fine apparatus. I do prop up Intel's margins by using EE PRO style lan adapters. Joe D. From rgrein at nwlink.com Thu Feb 27 06:47:47 2003 From: rgrein at nwlink.com (Randy Grein) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 22:47:47 -0800 Subject: Totally OT: Onboard NICs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <619BB206-4A1F-11D7-954F-0003937048F0@nwlink.com> This isn't such a bad route - and you don't have to replace the motherboard, just snap in a card if there's a problem (rare) with the onboard controller. On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 04:48 PM, zzz wrote: > For servers, we buy COMPAQ, and now use the onboard NICs that are on > them on the servers that have 100 MEG connections. > No problems yet here. > > We consider most user workstations a commodity, and simply buy boxes > with INTEL motherboards that have everything on board, including the > INTEL NIC. > > I don't remember any case where we had a documented NIC failure or NIC > problems that were hardware related out of the last couple thousand > boxes we purchased. > > For service reason, I prefer the "everything on board" approach, as we > simply swap motherboards whenever we have problems, rather than doing a > lot of troubleshooting. > > Thanks > > Dana > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> rgaspar at patlq.com 02/26/03 11:03AM >>> > Hi there, figured I'd ask here... for years, I've been putting noting > but 3Com NICs in all servers / workstations I have control over. > lately, I've been buying workstations, and it's getting harder and > harder to find motherboards w/o onboard LAN... > > Any horror stories about onboard NICs? or am I just paranoid? should > I > drop my 3c905 addiction and go onboard for workstations? > > TIA, > > > > > ________________________ > Roland Gaspar > Tel.: (514) 398-7880 xt 8603 > ICQ # 1355591 > www.roland-gaspar.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA From jsullivan at getthehatter.com Thu Feb 27 07:17:54 2003 From: jsullivan at getthehatter.com (Joe Sullivan) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 01:17:54 -0600 Subject: nw65 beta References: 1677 Message-ID: <20030227T011754Z_424A00100000@getthehatter.com> It's very nice. Stable. Web services are slightly different, new version of apache. Joe >>> Joe Doupnik 02/26/2003 10:25:48 AM >>> >NW65 beta, public yet? Download from? > >----------------------------------------- >Joe Acquisto >SUNY New Paltz >845-257-3134 (V) >845-257-6900 (F) ----------- Not yet. Brainshare time. Joe D. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From jsullivan at getthehatter.com Thu Feb 27 07:42:02 2003 From: jsullivan at getthehatter.com (Joe Sullivan) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 01:42:02 -0600 Subject: nw65 beta References: 1675 Message-ID: <20030227T014202Z_424A00100000@getthehatter.com> GW 6.5 is public code now, or will be shortly. Very nice as well. Joe >>> Andy Raynor 02/26/2003 11:06:54 AM >>> Sigh. A very bad caffeinless morning. GroupWise 6.5 beta, not NetWare. Sorry if I got everyone's juices flowing. >>> ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu 02/26/03 12:03PM >>> From: ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 12:03 PM To: Subject: nw65 beta Priority: Normal NW65 beta, public yet? Download from? ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- Remember: once, everyone "Knew" the world was flat. --------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From G.Ross at ccw.gov.uk Thu Feb 27 10:56:39 2003 From: G.Ross at ccw.gov.uk (Gordon Ross) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 10:56:39 +0000 Subject: Accessing DOS partition from DOS Message-ID: We've been doing some work on our NW5.0SP6a boxes. These boxes have the Novell/Caldera DOS on the DOS partition. If we use an MS-DOS 6.22 boot floppy, we can't see the DOS partition (we see no files) This freaked us out at first, but once we re-booted the server, everything was fine. Niavely, I thought DOS was DOS, especally at the filesystem level. Thoughts/Ideas ? GTG Gordon Ross, Network Manager/Rheolwr Rhydwaith Countryside Council for Wales/Cyngor Cefn Gwlad Cymru From Alar at mtk.ut.ee Thu Feb 27 11:19:10 2003 From: Alar at mtk.ut.ee (Alar Pandis) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 13:19:10 +0200 Subject: EIP in MBNWSA.NSS abend still appear Message-ID: <000a01c2de52$0d493020$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> Hi again! I have still same problem on NW5.1SP5 (SCSI env. 9GB SYS, 18GB mirrored SYS1 - traditional volumes; also 18GB and 32GB NSS volumes). I'd add latest NSS patches for NW5.1 (nns5o.exe), but ... same abend hit again. I can't tell what services is affected. Seems to work as usual. But ... why this abend started appear ... I have no clue. Any further ideas? Experiences? More thanks, Alar. Registers: CS = 0008 DS = 0010 ES = 0010 FS = 0010 GS = 0010 SS = 0010 EAX = 00006365 EBX = 65657246 ECX = C6AA8D60 EDX = CBBC52A0 ESI = D0C7DBCE EDI = 00000000 EBP = D0C7DB84 ESP = C6AA8D44 EIP = D7B63261 FLAGS = 00010246 D7B63261 8B9B7C010000 MOV EBX,[EBX+0000017C]=? EIP in MBNWSA.NSS at code start +00040261h Access Location: 0x656573C2 The violation occurred while processing the following instruction: D7B63261 8B9B7C010000 MOV EBX,[EBX+0000017C] D7B63267 8B4328 MOV EAX,[EBX+28] D7B6326A 25FEFFFFFF AND EAX,FFFFFFFE D7B6326F 0F8434000000 JZ D7B632A9 D7B63275 8B4328 MOV EAX,[EBX+28] D7B63278 2501000000 AND EAX,00000001 D7B6327D 0F8507000000 JNZ D7B6328A D7B63283 B81453B6D7 MOV EAX,D7B65314 D7B63288 FF20 JMP near ptr [EAX] D7B6328A 33C0 XOR EAX,EAX Running process: Server 33 Process Created by: NetWare Application Thread Owned by NLM: SERVER.NLM Stack pointer: C6AA8C30 OS Stack limit: C6AA1040 Scheduling priority: 67371008 Wait state: 5050090 (Wait for interrupt) Stack: D569ACE0 (NCPIPX.NLM|FinishUpPacket+B6) --D0C7DBCE ? -D56A03F0 (NCPIPX.NLM|IPXReplyProceduresVector+0) ... From prandal at herefordshire.gov.uk Thu Feb 27 11:16:04 2003 From: prandal at herefordshire.gov.uk (Randal, Phil) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 11:16:04 -0000 Subject: EIP in MBNWSA.NSS abend still appear Message-ID: <0EBC45FCABFC95428EBFC3A51B368C95513657@jessica.herefordshire.gov.uk> Alar, Make sure the NSS volume isn't mounted in your Autoexec.ncf. Then at the console type nss menu Go to the Utilities menu, select rebuild, and rebuild the NSS volume. when that's complete, try mounting it. Or have you done all this already? Phil --------------------------------------------- Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK > -----Original Message----- > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar at mtk.ut.ee] > Sent: 27 February 2003 11:19 > To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu > Subject: EIP in MBNWSA.NSS abend still appear > > > Hi again! > I have still same problem on NW5.1SP5 (SCSI env. 9GB SYS, > 18GB mirrored SYS1 > - traditional volumes; also 18GB and 32GB NSS volumes). I'd > add latest NSS > patches for NW5.1 (nns5o.exe), but ... same abend hit again. > I can't tell > what services is affected. Seems to work as usual. But ... > why this abend > started appear ... I have no clue. > Any further ideas? Experiences? > More thanks, > Alar. > > Registers: > CS = 0008 DS = 0010 ES = 0010 FS = 0010 GS = 0010 SS = 0010 > EAX = 00006365 EBX = 65657246 ECX = C6AA8D60 EDX = CBBC52A0 > ESI = D0C7DBCE EDI = 00000000 EBP = D0C7DB84 ESP = C6AA8D44 > EIP = D7B63261 FLAGS = 00010246 > D7B63261 8B9B7C010000 MOV EBX,[EBX+0000017C]=? > EIP in MBNWSA.NSS at code start +00040261h > Access Location: 0x656573C2 > > The violation occurred while processing the following instruction: > D7B63261 8B9B7C010000 MOV EBX,[EBX+0000017C] > D7B63267 8B4328 MOV EAX,[EBX+28] > D7B6326A 25FEFFFFFF AND EAX,FFFFFFFE > D7B6326F 0F8434000000 JZ D7B632A9 > D7B63275 8B4328 MOV EAX,[EBX+28] > D7B63278 2501000000 AND EAX,00000001 > D7B6327D 0F8507000000 JNZ D7B6328A > D7B63283 B81453B6D7 MOV EAX,D7B65314 > D7B63288 FF20 JMP near ptr [EAX] > D7B6328A 33C0 XOR EAX,EAX > > > > Running process: Server 33 Process > Created by: NetWare Application > Thread Owned by NLM: SERVER.NLM > Stack pointer: C6AA8C30 > OS Stack limit: C6AA1040 > Scheduling priority: 67371008 > Wait state: 5050090 (Wait for interrupt) > Stack: D569ACE0 (NCPIPX.NLM|FinishUpPacket+B6) > --D0C7DBCE ? > -D56A03F0 (NCPIPX.NLM|IPXReplyProceduresVector+0) > ... > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > From prandal at herefordshire.gov.uk Thu Feb 27 11:24:41 2003 From: prandal at herefordshire.gov.uk (Randal, Phil) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 11:24:41 -0000 Subject: Accessing DOS partition from DOS Message-ID: <0EBC45FCABFC95428EBFC3A51B368C95513658@jessica.herefordshire.gov.uk> Interesting... I took a current freedos (http://www.freedos.org) boot disk image from http://www.newcreationsco.com/freedos386.htm and wrote it to a floppy using rawrite.exe (which I'd got from memtest86 - http://www.memtest86.com). I then put the floppy into a test NW5.1 server, booted it, and I could access the C: drive without problems. As I had no desire to trash the box I resisted the temptation to change to c:\nwserver and run server.exe. Has anyone tried it? I'm curious, but... Cheers, Phil --------------------------------------------- Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK > -----Original Message----- > From: Gordon Ross [mailto:G.Ross at ccw.gov.uk] > Sent: 27 February 2003 10:57 > To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu > Subject: Accessing DOS partition from DOS > > > We've been doing some work on our NW5.0SP6a boxes. These > boxes have the > Novell/Caldera DOS on the DOS partition. > > If we use an MS-DOS 6.22 boot floppy, we can't see the DOS partition > (we see no files) This freaked us out at first, but once we re-booted > the server, everything was fine. > > Niavely, I thought DOS was DOS, especally at the filesystem level. > > Thoughts/Ideas ? > > GTG > > Gordon Ross, > Network Manager/Rheolwr Rhydwaith > Countryside Council for Wales/Cyngor Cefn Gwlad Cymru > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > From G.Ross at ccw.gov.uk Thu Feb 27 11:38:14 2003 From: G.Ross at ccw.gov.uk (Gordon Ross) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 11:38:14 +0000 Subject: Accessing DOS partition from DOS Message-ID: Hmm, I know about FreeDOS (I have it running in a VMWare session to play with it), but like you, I'm not 100% happy about letting it near my live servers. GTG >>> prandal at herefordshire.gov.uk 27/02/2003 11:24:41 >>> Interesting... I took a current freedos (http://www.freedos.org) boot disk image from http://www.newcreationsco.com/freedos386.htm and wrote it to a floppy using rawrite.exe (which I'd got from memtest86 - http://www.memtest86.com). I then put the floppy into a test NW5.1 server, booted it, and I could access the C: drive without problems. As I had no desire to trash the box I resisted the temptation to change to c:\nwserver and run server.exe. Has anyone tried it? I'm curious, but... From John.Croft at pwgsc.gc.ca Thu Feb 27 12:11:10 2003 From: John.Croft at pwgsc.gc.ca (John Croft) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 08:11:10 -0400 Subject: Accessing DOS partition from DOS Message-ID: <462D898E4619824991859903A7D1045C80F019@mb-atl-temp.ad.pwgsc-tpsgc.gc.ca> Have you tried Portal Mgt I have access the dos partition with it (msdos6.2) no problems -----Original Message----- From: Gordon Ross [mailto:G.Ross at ccw.gov.uk] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 6:57 AM To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: Accessing DOS partition from DOS We've been doing some work on our NW5.0SP6a boxes. These boxes have the Novell/Caldera DOS on the DOS partition. If we use an MS-DOS 6.22 boot floppy, we can't see the DOS partition (we see no files) This freaked us out at first, but once we re-booted the server, everything was fine. Niavely, I thought DOS was DOS, especally at the filesystem level. Thoughts/Ideas ? GTG Gordon Ross, Network Manager/Rheolwr Rhydwaith Countryside Council for Wales/Cyngor Cefn Gwlad Cymru _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From dmoon at peru.k12.in.us Thu Feb 27 12:50:16 2003 From: dmoon at peru.k12.in.us (Dave Moon) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 07:50:16 -0500 Subject: off topic: Star Office Message-ID: Thanks to everyone who has responded so far. The problem seems to be with the user60.rdb file. It apparently is making reference to the server which you are logged into at installation. I have looked at openoffice.org but have not downloaded that one yet. We do not plan to integrate to GW at this time. Maybe later. Currenlty using Wordperfect Office 7 and Microsoft Office diferent version. I am liking star office because it loads about everything. Thanks again Dave Moon Dave Moon Peru Community Schools 401 N. Broadway Peru, IN 46970 765-473-3081 fax 765-472-5156 >>> chad at Capitalcityfruit.com 02/26/03 12:53PM >>> Are you going to integrate it with GW doc management? What are you using now for an office suite? >>> dmoon at peru.k12.in.us 2/26/03 11:43:55 AM >>> We are looking at star office. Can someone point me to a good listserv for it. The support websites I find lacking. Thanks Dave Dave Moon Peru Community Schools 401 N. Broadway Peru, IN 46970 765-473-3081 fax 765-472-5156 _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From rgaspar at patlq.com Thu Feb 27 14:30:09 2003 From: rgaspar at patlq.com (Roland Gaspar) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 09:30:09 -0500 Subject: Totally OT: Onboard NICs Message-ID: Thanks for the comments, I figure I'd buy my next 10 with onboard LAN, and if it works out, great, if not, I'll have learned. ________________________ Roland Gaspar Tel.: (514) 398-7880 xt 8603 ICQ # 1355591 www.roland-gaspar.com >>> rgaspar at patlq.com 02/26/03 12:03PM >>> Hi there, figured I'd ask here... for years, I've been putting noting but 3Com NICs in all servers / workstations I have control over. lately, I've been buying workstations, and it's getting harder and harder to find motherboards w/o onboard LAN... Any horror stories about onboard NICs? or am I just paranoid? should I drop my 3c905 addiction and go onboard for workstations? TIA, ________________________ Roland Gaspar Tel.: (514) 398-7880 xt 8603 ICQ # 1355591 www.roland-gaspar.com _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From rgrein at nwlink.com Thu Feb 27 14:32:02 2003 From: rgrein at nwlink.com (Randy Grein) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 06:32:02 -0800 Subject: Accessing DOS partition from DOS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3C569F3D-4A60-11D7-954F-0003937048F0@nwlink.com> Gordon, Novell uses DR DOS to create the boot volume. That is, Caldera DOS 7 which has a slightly different drive format than MS DOS 6 for volumes over 32 MB. This can cause real problems if you create the drive with one, then attempt to access it with another. Of course the disk repair utilities don't come with Netware, so should your boot drive become corrupted you can have real problems. They are available for download, I believe from Caldera - or if you have a copy of DR DOS sitting around. On Thursday, February 27, 2003, at 02:56 AM, Gordon Ross wrote: > We've been doing some work on our NW5.0SP6a boxes. These boxes have the > Novell/Caldera DOS on the DOS partition. > > If we use an MS-DOS 6.22 boot floppy, we can't see the DOS partition > (we see no files) This freaked us out at first, but once we re-booted > the server, everything was fine. > > Niavely, I thought DOS was DOS, especally at the filesystem level. > > Thoughts/Ideas ? > > GTG > > Gordon Ross, > Network Manager/Rheolwr Rhydwaith > Countryside Council for Wales/Cyngor Cefn Gwlad Cymru > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA From jlindblom at mico.com Thu Feb 27 15:17:27 2003 From: jlindblom at mico.com (jlindblom at mico.com) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 09:17:27 -0600 Subject: Totally OT: Onboard NICs Message-ID: I'm using the 3Com 3C996B-T (B57.LAN) card and 3Com only has a beta of 2.37 available for download. Where are you getting this 2.38 driver? John Lindblom Network Administrator MICO, Inc. North Mankato, MN gordon.christie at centrel ink.gov.au To: Novell LAN Interest Group Sent by: cc: novell-bounces at netlab1. Subject: Re: Totally OT: Onboard NICs usu.edu 02/26/2003 04:45 PM Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group You might want to note, the the web page is slightly wrong. It mentsions that version 2.38 of the driver is a beta driver. I can assure you it is not. It has been tested and approved by Novell, according to their web site. Somthing else to note about the 2.38 driver, which is why I needed it, is that it uses the hardware MAC address (strange concept I know) where as the previous drivers, (2.32 and 2.29 confirmed) used a soft MAC address. Yes I know I could overrode it, but with automatic configuration of over 400 netware servers we did not want to modify our systems to cope with an driver that went backwards in capability instead of forwards. Gordon Christie Centrelink Australia Hans Nellissen seldorf.de> cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: Totally OT: Onboard NICs novell-bounces at netlab 1.usu.edu 27/02/2003 04:35 Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group At 12:03 26.02.2003 -0500, you wrote: >lately, I've been buying workstations, and it's getting harder and >harder to find motherboards w/o onboard LAN... > >Any horror stories about onboard NICs? or am I just paranoid? should I >drop my 3c905 addiction and go onboard for workstations? I got an information from Novell Sysop. Take a look at this: http://nscsysop.hypermart.net/b57.html Hans Nellissen ---------------------------------------------------------------- Heinrich-Heine-Universitaet Email:dbphilos at mail.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de Meinungsaeusserungen im vorliegenden Text stellen allein den Standpunkt des Autors dar und lassen keine Rueckschluesse auf seinen Arbeitgeber zu. 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From prandal at herefordshire.gov.uk Thu Feb 27 16:24:42 2003 From: prandal at herefordshire.gov.uk (Randal, Phil) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 16:24:42 -0000 Subject: NW51SP5 & Timesync Message-ID: <0EBC45FCABFC95428EBFC3A51B368C95513661@jessica.herefordshire.gov.uk> I've never seen that one. Have you done the FILES=70 and BUFFERS=70 thing in your C:\CONFIG.SYS? Phil --------------------------------------------- Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK > -----Original Message----- > From: Rich Molettiere [mailto:rmoletti at ops.org] > Sent: 27 February 2003 16:14 > To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu > Subject: NW51SP5 & Timesync > > > Installed NW51SP5 this morning and now the server does a > double-abend on boot. The running process is both cases is > timesync. Anyone else seen this? Solution to backrev to an > earlier version or is there something else. > > Rich Molettiere > Technology Coordinator > Omaha North High School > "Technology is not a free lunch." > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > From Alar at mtk.ut.ee Thu Feb 27 16:50:09 2003 From: Alar at mtk.ut.ee (Alar Pandis) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 18:50:09 +0200 Subject: EIP in MBNWSA.NSS abend still appear Message-ID: <000e01c2de80$4a170d00$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> Hi again! I have still same problem on NW5.1SP5 (SCSI env. 9GB SYS, 18GB mirrored SYS1 - traditional volumes; also 18GB and 32GB NSS volumes). I'd add latest NSS patches for NW5.1 (nns5o.exe), but ... same abend hit again. I can't tell what services is affected. Seems to work as usual. But ... why this abend started appear ... I have no clue. Any further ideas? Experiences? More thanks, Alar. Registers: CS = 0008 DS = 0010 ES = 0010 FS = 0010 GS = 0010 SS = 0010 EAX = 00006365 EBX = 65657246 ECX = C6AA8D60 EDX = CBBC52A0 ESI = D0C7DBCE EDI = 00000000 EBP = D0C7DB84 ESP = C6AA8D44 EIP = D7B63261 FLAGS = 00010246 D7B63261 8B9B7C010000 MOV EBX,[EBX+0000017C]=? EIP in MBNWSA.NSS at code start +00040261h Access Location: 0x656573C2 The violation occurred while processing the following instruction: D7B63261 8B9B7C010000 MOV EBX,[EBX+0000017C] D7B63267 8B4328 MOV EAX,[EBX+28] D7B6326A 25FEFFFFFF AND EAX,FFFFFFFE D7B6326F 0F8434000000 JZ D7B632A9 D7B63275 8B4328 MOV EAX,[EBX+28] D7B63278 2501000000 AND EAX,00000001 D7B6327D 0F8507000000 JNZ D7B6328A D7B63283 B81453B6D7 MOV EAX,D7B65314 D7B63288 FF20 JMP near ptr [EAX] D7B6328A 33C0 XOR EAX,EAX Running process: Server 33 Process Created by: NetWare Application Thread Owned by NLM: SERVER.NLM Stack pointer: C6AA8C30 OS Stack limit: C6AA1040 Scheduling priority: 67371008 Wait state: 5050090 (Wait for interrupt) Stack: D569ACE0 (NCPIPX.NLM|FinishUpPacket+B6) --D0C7DBCE ? -D56A03F0 (NCPIPX.NLM|IPXReplyProceduresVector+0) ... From carter at ipfw.edu Thu Feb 27 18:14:05 2003 From: carter at ipfw.edu (Jean-Paul Carter) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 13:14:05 -0500 Subject: Accessing DOS partition from DOS Message-ID: We also had the same reaction :) Had to go download drdos and make a new boot disk, then all was well. John Carter Senior Network Systems Programmer ITServices Indiana Purdue University Ft. Wayne 2101 Coliseum Blvd Ft. Wayne IN 46805 260 481-5473 260 481-4152 fax carter at ipfw.edu >>> G.Ross at ccw.gov.uk 02/27/03 05:56AM >>> We've been doing some work on our NW5.0SP6a boxes. These boxes have the Novell/Caldera DOS on the DOS partition. If we use an MS-DOS 6.22 boot floppy, we can't see the DOS partition (we see no files) This freaked us out at first, but once we re-booted the server, everything was fine. Niavely, I thought DOS was DOS, especally at the filesystem level. Thoughts/Ideas ? GTG Gordon Ross, Network Manager/Rheolwr Rhydwaith Countryside Council for Wales/Cyngor Cefn Gwlad Cymru _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From carter at ipfw.edu Thu Feb 27 18:18:15 2003 From: carter at ipfw.edu (Jean-Paul Carter) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 13:18:15 -0500 Subject: NW51SP5 & Timesync Message-ID: Not sure if your is the same as ours, but right after sp5 came out we upgraded and it abended upon boot on many servers the problem turned out to be that the slp discovery options stuff was set to dhcp. Once we set it to static (4) then it was fine. >>> rmoletti at ops.org 02/27/03 11:14AM >>> Installed NW51SP5 this morning and now the server does a double-abend on boot. The running process is both cases is timesync. Anyone else seen this? Solution to backrev to an earlier version or is there something else. Rich Molettiere Technology Coordinator Omaha North High School "Technology is not a free lunch." _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From John at coastal.edu Thu Feb 27 19:53:06 2003 From: John at coastal.edu (John Hanna) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 14:53:06 -0500 Subject: DHCP Option values Message-ID: <004901c2de99$dbb12f20$041478c7@ccu03722> I need to add a DHCP option 184 so that my dhcp servers (NW5.1sp4) handout the address to the NBX call processor to our 3com NBX IP telephones. According to 3com I need to create option 184 and the value needs to be in hex. However, I can not find a way to enter hex values in DNS/DHCP console. It only takes text values. Does anyone know how to enter Hex values in the Values field when adding Vender Class identifier option? John Hanna Network Services Manager Coastal Carolina University PO Box 261954 Conway, SC 29528-6054 Phone:(843)349-2150 Fax: (843)349-2990 Email: John at coastal.edu From Cindi.Eades at Strasburger.com Thu Feb 27 19:55:13 2003 From: Cindi.Eades at Strasburger.com (Cindi Eades) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 13:55:13 -0600 Subject: NDPS Cover Page Message-ID: You must have secured printing enabled to get the banner pages to show the users names. Cindi R. Eades Strasburger & Price, LLP Technical Anaylist Office: 214-651-4795 Fax: 214-659-4012 This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. This communication may contain material protected by the attorney-client privilege. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering the email to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the Strasburger & Price HelpDesk toll free at 877.678.5836. >>> phasenjager at fzacpa.com 2/25/2003 4:37:10 PM >>> Server: NetWare 6 SP2 Clients: Win2K Pro with 4.83 SP1 I have recently added a cover page to a few of our high volume printers. When some users print, the cover page shows their username. However, a few users show up as unknown. I have looked at the TIDs but can't find any useful information. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks. Patrick Hasenjager Technical Support Specialist Frankel, Zacharia, Arnold, Nissen, Stamp & Reinsch, LLC Main: (402) 496-9100 Desk: (402) 963-4340 Fax: (402) 496-1024 phasenjager at fzacpa.com ************************************************************************** This e-mail and any attachments are intended only for the addressee. If you are not the addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail or attachments. Please immediately notify the sender if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete it from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender does not accept liability for errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise or occur during transmission. We will provide a "hard-copy" version of the message and attachments upon request. Although reasonable precautions are taken to assure this e-mail is virus free, we do not accept responsibility for the loss or damage arising from the use of this e-mail or attachments. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gordon.christie at centrelink.gov.au Thu Feb 27 21:35:09 2003 From: gordon.christie at centrelink.gov.au (gordon.christie at centrelink.gov.au) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 08:35:09 +1100 Subject: Totally OT: Onboard NICs Message-ID: John, >From the web page at the bottom of this message. there is a link in the text to it. Gordon Christie Centrelink Australia jlindblom at mico.com Sent by: To: Novell LAN Interest Group novell-bounces at netl cc: ab1.usu.edu Subject: Re: Totally OT: Onboard NICs 28/02/2003 02:17 Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group I'm using the 3Com 3C996B-T (B57.LAN) card and 3Com only has a beta of 2.37 available for download. Where are you getting this 2.38 driver? John Lindblom Network Administrator MICO, Inc. North Mankato, MN gordon.christie at centrel ink.gov.au To: Novell LAN Interest Group Sent by: cc: novell-bounces at netlab1. Subject: Re: Totally OT: Onboard NICs usu.edu 02/26/2003 04:45 PM Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group You might want to note, the the web page is slightly wrong. It mentsions that version 2.38 of the driver is a beta driver. I can assure you it is not. It has been tested and approved by Novell, according to their web site. Somthing else to note about the 2.38 driver, which is why I needed it, is that it uses the hardware MAC address (strange concept I know) where as the previous drivers, (2.32 and 2.29 confirmed) used a soft MAC address. Yes I know I could overrode it, but with automatic configuration of over 400 netware servers we did not want to modify our systems to cope with an driver that went backwards in capability instead of forwards. Gordon Christie Centrelink Australia Hans Nellissen seldorf.de> cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: Totally OT: Onboard NICs novell-bounces at netlab 1.usu.edu 27/02/2003 04:35 Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group At 12:03 26.02.2003 -0500, you wrote: >lately, I've been buying workstations, and it's getting harder and >harder to find motherboards w/o onboard LAN... > >Any horror stories about onboard NICs? or am I just paranoid? should I >drop my 3c905 addiction and go onboard for workstations? I got an information from Novell Sysop. Take a look at this: http://nscsysop.hypermart.net/b57.html Hans Nellissen ---------------------------------------------------------------- Heinrich-Heine-Universitaet Email:dbphilos at mail.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de Meinungsaeusserungen im vorliegenden Text stellen allein den Standpunkt des Autors dar und lassen keine Rueckschluesse auf seinen Arbeitgeber zu. Expressions of opinion in the available text represent only the point of view of the author and permit no conclusions on its employer. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell Important: This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is confidential, commercially valuable or subject to legal or parliamentary privilege. 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In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3E5E3D61.15564.129965B@localhost> On 26 Feb 2003 at 16:57, Jean-Paul Carter wrote: > Along those lines of loggin when a user logs in, you can get WEBLOG from > the novell coolsolutions download area. It creates a log file for each > user and for each workstation. So you go to the log dir and find the > username and that log file will have every station the user loged into > like: > 10-25-2002,13:16:49,00:03:47:35:E9:04,149.164.10.16,ot9332k FWIW when I run WEBLOG on a Win2kPro workstation, it tells me I need MSWINSCK.OCX ... -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 / fax 1-208-248-3124 http://www.geoapps.com/ AIM: AngusWSF ICQ: 165646506 --------------------------------------------------------- From phasenjager at fzacpa.com Fri Feb 28 01:57:21 2003 From: phasenjager at fzacpa.com (Patrick Hasenjager) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 19:57:21 -0600 Subject: NDPS Cover Page Message-ID: But that does not explain why it shows for some users and not others. The only thing that I can think of is that the users not showing up where around prior to NW 4. The users that do show up are newer users. Could this be the problem? >>> Cindi.Eades at Strasburger.com 02/27/03 01:55PM >>> You must have secured printing enabled to get the banner pages to show the users names. Cindi R. Eades Strasburger & Price, LLP Technical Anaylist Office: 214-651-4795 Fax: 214-659-4012 This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. This communication may contain material protected by the attorney-client privilege. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering the email to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the Strasburger & Price HelpDesk toll free at 877.678.5836. >>> phasenjager at fzacpa.com 2/25/2003 4:37:10 PM >>> Server: NetWare 6 SP2 Clients: Win2K Pro with 4.83 SP1 I have recently added a cover page to a few of our high volume printers. When some users print, the cover page shows their username. However, a few users show up as unknown. I have looked at the TIDs but can't find any useful information. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks. Patrick Hasenjager Technical Support Specialist Frankel, Zacharia, Arnold, Nissen, Stamp & Reinsch, LLC Main: (402) 496-9100 Desk: (402) 963-4340 Fax: (402) 496-1024 phasenjager at fzacpa.com ************************************************************************** This e-mail and any attachments are intended only for the addressee. If you are not the addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail or attachments. Please immediately notify the sender if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete it from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender does not accept liability for errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise or occur during transmission. We will provide a "hard-copy" version of the message and attachments upon request. Although reasonable precautions are taken to assure this e-mail is virus free, we do not accept responsibility for the loss or damage arising from the use of this e-mail or attachments. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell ************************************************************************** This e-mail and any attachments are intended only for the addressee. If you are not the addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail or attachments. Please immediately notify the sender if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete it from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender does not accept liability for errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise or occur during transmission. We will provide a "hard-copy" version of the message and attachments upon request. Although reasonable precautions are taken to assure this e-mail is virus free, we do not accept responsibility for the loss or damage arising from the use of this e-mail or attachments. From carter at ipfw.edu Fri Feb 28 04:37:47 2003 From: carter at ipfw.edu (Jean-Paul Carter) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 23:37:47 -0500 Subject: How to know IP adresses of stations? Message-ID: I just checked the dir where we had that and remembered that we also had that problem and just had to put the ocx file in with the weblog program. You may also need msvbm60.dll in that dir. >>> "Angus Scott-Fleming" 02/27/03 06:31PM >>> On 26 Feb 2003 at 16:57, Jean-Paul Carter wrote: > Along those lines of loggin when a user logs in, you can get WEBLOG from > the novell coolsolutions download area. It creates a log file for each > user and for each workstation. So you go to the log dir and find the > username and that log file will have every station the user loged into > like: > 10-25-2002,13:16:49,00:03:47:35:E9:04,149.164.10.16,ot9332k FWIW when I run WEBLOG on a Win2kPro workstation, it tells me I need MSWINSCK.OCX ... -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 / fax 1-208-248-3124 http://www.geoapps.com/ AIM: AngusWSF ICQ: 165646506 --------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From cirvis at konts.lv Fri Feb 28 09:36:29 2003 From: cirvis at konts.lv (Gatis Visnevskis) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 11:36:29 +0200 Subject: *SERVERNAME connections ?? lot of them Message-ID: <3E5F2D9D.4050901@konts.lv> Hi all, I am getting lot of these connections. Maybe 100 or more. I know, * means only authentification. We have only 100 users here, 150 licences. but connection ID numbers are well beyound 600-700. Server uptime is 227 days. NW5.1 SP4, eDir 8.6.2 Gasha From G.Ross at ccw.gov.uk Fri Feb 28 09:40:11 2003 From: G.Ross at ccw.gov.uk (Gordon Ross) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 09:40:11 +0000 Subject: *SERVERNAME connections ?? lot of them Message-ID: These are DS connections. GTG >>> cirvis at konts.lv 28/02/2003 09:36:29 >>> Hi all, I am getting lot of these connections. Maybe 100 or more. I know, * means only authentification. We have only 100 users here, 150 licences. but connection ID numbers are well beyound 600-700. Server uptime is 227 days. NW5.1 SP4, eDir 8.6.2 Gasha _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From cirvis at konts.lv Fri Feb 28 10:15:22 2003 From: cirvis at konts.lv (Gatis Visnevskis) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:15:22 +0200 Subject: *SERVERNAME connections ?? lot of them References: Message-ID: <3E5F36BA.8050002@konts.lv> OK, DS connections. But there is only one working server in the tree. Linux box is only for testing eDir for Linux. Why does server connect to itself? And does'n close these connections. Gasha Gordon Ross wrote: > These are DS connections. > > GTG From Alar at mtk.ut.ee Fri Feb 28 10:48:59 2003 From: Alar at mtk.ut.ee (Alar Pandis) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:48:59 +0200 Subject: EIP in MBNWSA.NSS abend still appear In-Reply-To: <20030227190015.038F7AEF3@netlab1.usu.edu> Message-ID: <000801c2df16$fff8df90$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> Hi Phil and thanks! Yes, NSS-volumes is mounted in autoexec. I just did Verify in NSS menu after I patched NSS-files and no errors (there is two NSS-volumes + admin) appear. As I didn't find any errors I didn't try to Rebuild those two volumes. But must I still Rebuild? Also, strange is that all NSS-volumes works (as I see) well - they also mount good. Bad is that when I try to bring server down then I must use Ctrl-Alt-Esc and mirror (on traditional SYS1 volume) is broken. What this module MBNWSA.NSS is responsible for? Abends happen just at random time. And when it once happen then it does not happen again (for now at least). More thanks, Alar. PS! Sorry, I sent twice same last email into list. As I didn't see it appear in web-view. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 11:16:04 -0000 From: "Randal, Phil" To: "'Novell LAN Interest Group'" Subject: RE: EIP in MBNWSA.NSS abend still appear Message-ID: <0EBC45FCABFC95428EBFC3A51B368C95513657 at jessica.herefordshire.gov.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Reply-To: Novell LAN Interest Group Message: 18 Alar, Make sure the NSS volume isn't mounted in your Autoexec.ncf. Then at the console type nss menu Go to the Utilities menu, select rebuild, and rebuild the NSS volume. when that's complete, try mounting it. Or have you done all this already? Phil --------------------------------------------- Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK > -----Original Message----- > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar at mtk.ut.ee] > Sent: 27 February 2003 11:19 > To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu > Subject: EIP in MBNWSA.NSS abend still appear > > > Hi again! > I have still same problem on NW5.1SP5 (SCSI env. 9GB SYS, > 18GB mirrored SYS1 > - traditional volumes; also 18GB and 32GB NSS volumes). I'd > add latest NSS > patches for NW5.1 (nns5o.exe), but ... same abend hit again. > I can't tell > what services is affected. Seems to work as usual. But ... > why this abend > started appear ... I have no clue. > Any further ideas? Experiences? > More thanks, > Alar. > > Registers: > CS = 0008 DS = 0010 ES = 0010 FS = 0010 GS = 0010 SS = 0010 > EAX = 00006365 EBX = 65657246 ECX = C6AA8D60 EDX = CBBC52A0 > ESI = D0C7DBCE EDI = 00000000 EBP = D0C7DB84 ESP = C6AA8D44 > EIP = D7B63261 FLAGS = 00010246 > D7B63261 8B9B7C010000 MOV EBX,[EBX+0000017C]=? > EIP in MBNWSA.NSS at code start +00040261h > Access Location: 0x656573C2 > > The violation occurred while processing the following instruction: > D7B63261 8B9B7C010000 MOV EBX,[EBX+0000017C] > D7B63267 8B4328 MOV EAX,[EBX+28] > D7B6326A 25FEFFFFFF AND EAX,FFFFFFFE > D7B6326F 0F8434000000 JZ D7B632A9 > D7B63275 8B4328 MOV EAX,[EBX+28] > D7B63278 2501000000 AND EAX,00000001 > D7B6327D 0F8507000000 JNZ D7B6328A > D7B63283 B81453B6D7 MOV EAX,D7B65314 > D7B63288 FF20 JMP near ptr [EAX] > D7B6328A 33C0 XOR EAX,EAX > > > > Running process: Server 33 Process > Created by: NetWare Application > Thread Owned by NLM: SERVER.NLM > Stack pointer: C6AA8C30 > OS Stack limit: C6AA1040 > Scheduling priority: 67371008 > Wait state: 5050090 (Wait for interrupt) > Stack: D569ACE0 (NCPIPX.NLM|FinishUpPacket+B6) > --D0C7DBCE ? > -D56A03F0 (NCPIPX.NLM|IPXReplyProceduresVector+0) > ... > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From prandal at herefordshire.gov.uk Fri Feb 28 11:13:29 2003 From: prandal at herefordshire.gov.uk (Randal, Phil) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 11:13:29 -0000 Subject: EIP in MBNWSA.NSS abend still appear Message-ID: <0EBC45FCABFC95428EBFC3A51B368C95513665@jessica.herefordshire.gov.uk> I'd do an NSS Rebuild anyhow. I always do after NSS-releated crashes. Since I've put NSS5O on our servers we've had no NSS-related abends. We had seen that abend before, which is why I updated NSS in the first place. My current patchset is NW51SP5 plus: Changes since SP5 release (updated 31 Jan 2003): 1: Updated TCPIP.NLM, etc from tcp581o.exe 2: Added filesys.nlm from flsysft8.exe 3: Added NSS update from nss5o.exe 4: Added nwmem2.exe files 5: Added dhcp312a.exe files 6: Added tsa5up11.exe files 7: Updated portal.nlm from prtlft3.exe There are other patches, but the issues they address haven't affected us (yet), so I'm happy to wait for SP6. Cheers, Phil --------------------------------------------- Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK > -----Original Message----- > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar at mtk.ut.ee] > Sent: 28 February 2003 10:49 > To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu > Subject: RE: EIP in MBNWSA.NSS abend still appear > > > Hi Phil and thanks! > Yes, NSS-volumes is mounted in autoexec. I just did Verify in > NSS menu after > I patched NSS-files and no errors (there is two NSS-volumes + > admin) appear. > As I didn't find any errors I didn't try to Rebuild those two > volumes. But > must I still Rebuild? Also, strange is that all NSS-volumes > works (as I see) > well - they also mount good. Bad is that when I try to bring > server down > then I must use Ctrl-Alt-Esc and mirror (on traditional SYS1 > volume) is > broken. > What this module MBNWSA.NSS is responsible for? Abends happen > just at random > time. And when it once happen then it does not happen again > (for now at > least). > More thanks, > Alar. > PS! Sorry, I sent twice same last email into list. As I > didn't see it appear > in web-view. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 11:16:04 -0000 > From: "Randal, Phil" > To: "'Novell LAN Interest Group'" > Subject: RE: EIP in MBNWSA.NSS abend still appear > Message-ID: > <0EBC45FCABFC95428EBFC3A51B368C95513657 at jessica.herefordshire.gov.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Precedence: list > Reply-To: Novell LAN Interest Group > Message: 18 > > Alar, > > Make sure the NSS volume isn't mounted in your Autoexec.ncf. > > Then at the console type > > nss menu > > Go to the Utilities menu, select rebuild, and rebuild the NSS volume. > > when that's complete, try mounting it. > > Or have you done all this already? > > Phil > > --------------------------------------------- > Phil Randal > Network Engineer > Herefordshire Council > Hereford, UK > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar at mtk.ut.ee] > > Sent: 27 February 2003 11:19 > > To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu > > Subject: EIP in MBNWSA.NSS abend still appear > > > > > > Hi again! > > I have still same problem on NW5.1SP5 (SCSI env. 9GB SYS, > > 18GB mirrored SYS1 > > - traditional volumes; also 18GB and 32GB NSS volumes). I'd > > add latest NSS > > patches for NW5.1 (nns5o.exe), but ... same abend hit again. > > I can't tell > > what services is affected. Seems to work as usual. But ... > > why this abend > > started appear ... I have no clue. > > Any further ideas? Experiences? > > More thanks, > > Alar. > > > > Registers: > > CS = 0008 DS = 0010 ES = 0010 FS = 0010 GS = 0010 SS = 0010 > > EAX = 00006365 EBX = 65657246 ECX = C6AA8D60 EDX = CBBC52A0 > > ESI = D0C7DBCE EDI = 00000000 EBP = D0C7DB84 ESP = C6AA8D44 > > EIP = D7B63261 FLAGS = 00010246 > > D7B63261 8B9B7C010000 MOV EBX,[EBX+0000017C]=? > > EIP in MBNWSA.NSS at code start +00040261h > > Access Location: 0x656573C2 > > > > The violation occurred while processing the following instruction: > > D7B63261 8B9B7C010000 MOV EBX,[EBX+0000017C] > > D7B63267 8B4328 MOV EAX,[EBX+28] > > D7B6326A 25FEFFFFFF AND EAX,FFFFFFFE > > D7B6326F 0F8434000000 JZ D7B632A9 > > D7B63275 8B4328 MOV EAX,[EBX+28] > > D7B63278 2501000000 AND EAX,00000001 > > D7B6327D 0F8507000000 JNZ D7B6328A > > D7B63283 B81453B6D7 MOV EAX,D7B65314 > > D7B63288 FF20 JMP near ptr [EAX] > > D7B6328A 33C0 XOR EAX,EAX > > > > > > > > Running process: Server 33 Process > > Created by: NetWare Application > > Thread Owned by NLM: SERVER.NLM > > Stack pointer: C6AA8C30 > > OS Stack limit: C6AA1040 > > Scheduling priority: 67371008 > > Wait state: 5050090 (Wait for interrupt) > > Stack: D569ACE0 (NCPIPX.NLM|FinishUpPacket+B6) > > --D0C7DBCE ? > > -D56A03F0 (NCPIPX.NLM|IPXReplyProceduresVector+0) > > ... > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Novell mailing list > > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > From Dave.Bracken at salfordsoftware.co.uk Fri Feb 28 11:36:51 2003 From: Dave.Bracken at salfordsoftware.co.uk (Dave Bracken) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 11:36:51 +0000 Subject: *SERVERNAME connections ?? lot of them Message-ID: Gasha, If an NLM needs to authenticate to NDS (as many do), it will do so as the server object, hence the connections. This is nothing to worry about. Dave ------------------------------------------------ Salford Software Ltd, Lancastrian Office Centre, Talbot Road, Old Trafford, Manchester M32 0FP Tel: +44 (0) 161 906 2299 Fax: +44 (0) 161 906 1003 www.salfordsoftware.co.uk ------------------------------------------------ This email is confidential and may contain privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient then you must not copy it, forward it, use it for any purpose, or disclose it to another person. Instead please return it to the sender immediately. Please then delete your copy from your system. Please also note that the author of this email cannot conclude any contract on behalf of Salford Software Ltd by email. >>> cirvis at konts.lv 2/28/2003 10:15:22 >>> OK, DS connections. But there is only one working server in the tree. Linux box is only for testing eDir for Linux. Why does server connect to itself? And does'n close these connections. Gasha Gordon Ross wrote: > These are DS connections. > > GTG _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From geoffc at YorkU.CA Fri Feb 28 12:12:17 2003 From: geoffc at YorkU.CA (Geoffrey Carman) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 07:12:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: *SERVERNAME connections ?? lot of them In-Reply-To: <3E5F36BA.8050002@konts.lv> References: <3E5F36BA.8050002@konts.lv> Message-ID: Also, NFAP (The AFP and CIFS support) seem to need about 20-25 of these connections... Try AFPSTOp and CIFSSTOP and see if some of them go away... On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Gatis Visnevskis wrote: > > OK, DS connections. > But there is only one working server in the tree. Linux box is only for > testing eDir for Linux. > > Why does server connect to itself? And does'n close these connections. > > Gasha > > Gordon Ross wrote: > > > These are DS connections. > > > > GTG > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > --- Geoffrey Carman York University geoffc at yorku.ca From dmoon at peru.k12.in.us Fri Feb 28 13:18:11 2003 From: dmoon at peru.k12.in.us (Dave Moon) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 08:18:11 -0500 Subject: OT: Print Mgmt Software Message-ID: Can someone advise please. We are looking for software to monitor who prints what. We do not want to turn banners on yet. Can someone advise of software to let us know who printed how many pages where and when. Hopefully shareware or cheap. We are novell only. NO linux or NT Thanks for any help Dave Dave Moon Peru Community Schools 401 N. Broadway Peru, IN 46970 765-473-3081 fax 765-472-5156 From rmoletti at ops.org Fri Feb 28 13:22:00 2003 From: rmoletti at ops.org (Molettiere, Rich) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 07:22:00 -0600 Subject: OT: Print Mgmt Software Message-ID: <20030228132131.7A557AB89@netlab1.usu.edu> PCounter from A.N.D. Technologies at: http://www.andtechnologies.com/ You can download a full working copy and tech support answers email :) Rich Molettiere Technology Coordinator Omaha North High School "Technology is not a free lunch." >>> Dave Moon 02/28/03 07:18AM >>> Can someone advise please. We are looking for software to monitor who prints what. We do not want to turn banners on yet. Can someone advise of software to let us know who printed how many pages where and when. Hopefully shareware or cheap. We are novell only. NO linux or NT Thanks for any help Dave Dave Moon Peru Community Schools 401 N. Broadway Peru, IN 46970 765-473-3081 fax 765-472-5156 _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From Alar at mtk.ut.ee Fri Feb 28 16:28:25 2003 From: Alar at mtk.ut.ee (Alar Pandis) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 18:28:25 +0200 Subject: EIP in MBNWSA.NSS abend still appear Message-ID: <001001c2df46$6b400e20$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> Hi again and thanks! Well, then may be I must first give to try for tcpip etc. updates and see what will happen next? Or You think this Rebuild is also needed even Verify didn't show any errors? More thanks, Alar. -----Original Message----- Randal, Phil prandal at herefordshire.gov.uk Fri Feb 28 11:13:29 MST 2003 I'd do an NSS Rebuild anyhow. I always do after NSS-releated crashes. Since I've put NSS5O on our servers we've had no NSS-related abends. We had seen that abend before, which is why I updated NSS in the first place. My current patchset is NW51SP5 plus: Changes since SP5 release (updated 31 Jan 2003): 1: Updated TCPIP.NLM, etc from tcp581o.exe 2: Added filesys.nlm from flsysft8.exe 3: Added NSS update from nss5o.exe 4: Added nwmem2.exe files 5: Added dhcp312a.exe files 6: Added tsa5up11.exe files 7: Updated portal.nlm from prtlft3.exe There are other patches, but the issues they address haven't affected us (yet), so I'm happy to wait for SP6. Cheers, Phil --------------------------------------------- Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK > -----Original Message----- > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar at mtk.ut.ee] > Sent: 28 February 2003 10:49 > To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu > Subject: RE: EIP in MBNWSA.NSS abend still appear > > > Hi Phil and thanks! > Yes, NSS-volumes is mounted in autoexec. I just did Verify in > NSS menu after > I patched NSS-files and no errors (there is two NSS-volumes + > admin) appear. > As I didn't find any errors I didn't try to Rebuild those two > volumes. But > must I still Rebuild? Also, strange is that all NSS-volumes > works (as I see) > well - they also mount good. Bad is that when I try to bring > server down > then I must use Ctrl-Alt-Esc and mirror (on traditional SYS1 > volume) is > broken. > What this module MBNWSA.NSS is responsible for? Abends happen > just at random > time. And when it once happen then it does not happen again > (for now at > least). > More thanks, > Alar. > PS! Sorry, I sent twice same last email into list. As I > didn't see it appear > in web-view. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 11:16:04 -0000 > From: "Randal, Phil" > To: "'Novell LAN Interest Group'" > Subject: RE: EIP in MBNWSA.NSS abend still appear > Message-ID: > <0EBC45FCABFC95428EBFC3A51B368C95513657 at jessica.herefordshire.gov.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Precedence: list > Reply-To: Novell LAN Interest Group > Message: 18 > > Alar, > > Make sure the NSS volume isn't mounted in your Autoexec.ncf. > > Then at the console type > > nss menu > > Go to the Utilities menu, select rebuild, and rebuild the NSS volume. > > when that's complete, try mounting it. > > Or have you done all this already? > > Phil > > --------------------------------------------- > Phil Randal > Network Engineer > Herefordshire Council > Hereford, UK > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar at mtk.ut.ee] > > Sent: 27 February 2003 11:19 > > To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu > > Subject: EIP in MBNWSA.NSS abend still appear > > > > > > Hi again! > > I have still same problem on NW5.1SP5 (SCSI env. 9GB SYS, > > 18GB mirrored SYS1 > > - traditional volumes; also 18GB and 32GB NSS volumes). I'd > > add latest NSS > > patches for NW5.1 (nns5o.exe), but ... same abend hit again. > > I can't tell > > what services is affected. Seems to work as usual. But ... > > why this abend > > started appear ... I have no clue. > > Any further ideas? Experiences? > > More thanks, > > Alar. > > > > Registers: > > CS = 0008 DS = 0010 ES = 0010 FS = 0010 GS = 0010 SS = 0010 > > EAX = 00006365 EBX = 65657246 ECX = C6AA8D60 EDX = CBBC52A0 > > ESI = D0C7DBCE EDI = 00000000 EBP = D0C7DB84 ESP = C6AA8D44 > > EIP = D7B63261 FLAGS = 00010246 > > D7B63261 8B9B7C010000 MOV EBX,[EBX+0000017C]=? > > EIP in MBNWSA.NSS at code start +00040261h > > Access Location: 0x656573C2 > > > > The violation occurred while processing the following instruction: > > D7B63261 8B9B7C010000 MOV EBX,[EBX+0000017C] > > D7B63267 8B4328 MOV EAX,[EBX+28] > > D7B6326A 25FEFFFFFF AND EAX,FFFFFFFE > > D7B6326F 0F8434000000 JZ D7B632A9 > > D7B63275 8B4328 MOV EAX,[EBX+28] > > D7B63278 2501000000 AND EAX,00000001 > > D7B6327D 0F8507000000 JNZ D7B6328A > > D7B63283 B81453B6D7 MOV EAX,D7B65314 > > D7B63288 FF20 JMP near ptr [EAX] > > D7B6328A 33C0 XOR EAX,EAX > > > > > > > > Running process: Server 33 Process > > Created by: NetWare Application > > Thread Owned by NLM: SERVER.NLM > > Stack pointer: C6AA8C30 > > OS Stack limit: C6AA1040 > > Scheduling priority: 67371008 > > Wait state: 5050090 (Wait for interrupt) > > Stack: D569ACE0 (NCPIPX.NLM|FinishUpPacket+B6) > > --D0C7DBCE ? > > -D56A03F0 (NCPIPX.NLM|IPXReplyProceduresVector+0) > > ... > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Novell mailing list > > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > From prandal at herefordshire.gov.uk Fri Feb 28 16:24:52 2003 From: prandal at herefordshire.gov.uk (Randal, Phil) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 16:24:52 -0000 Subject: EIP in MBNWSA.NSS abend still appear Message-ID: <0EBC45FCABFC95428EBFC3A51B368C9551366A@jessica.herefordshire.gov.uk> There is a slight chance that a rebuild could fix an error which isn't detected by nss verify. That depends on how the code for each function is written, I guess. Phil --------------------------------------------- Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK > -----Original Message----- > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar at mtk.ut.ee] > Sent: 28 February 2003 16:28 > To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu > Subject: RE: EIP in MBNWSA.NSS abend still appear > > > Hi again and thanks! > Well, then may be I must first give to try for tcpip etc. > updates and see > what will happen next? Or You think this Rebuild is also > needed even Verify > didn't show any errors? > More thanks, > Alar. > > -----Original Message----- > Randal, Phil prandal at herefordshire.gov.uk > Fri Feb 28 11:13:29 MST 2003 > > I'd do an NSS Rebuild anyhow. I always do after NSS-releated crashes. > > Since I've put NSS5O on our servers we've had no NSS-related abends. > We had seen that abend before, which is why I updated NSS in the first > place. > > My current patchset is NW51SP5 plus: > > Changes since SP5 release (updated 31 Jan 2003): > > 1: Updated TCPIP.NLM, etc from tcp581o.exe > 2: Added filesys.nlm from flsysft8.exe > 3: Added NSS update from nss5o.exe > 4: Added nwmem2.exe files > 5: Added dhcp312a.exe files > 6: Added tsa5up11.exe files > 7: Updated portal.nlm from prtlft3.exe > > There are other patches, but the issues they address haven't > affected us > (yet), > so I'm happy to wait for SP6. > > Cheers, > > Phil > --------------------------------------------- > Phil Randal > Network Engineer > Herefordshire Council > Hereford, UK > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar at mtk.ut.ee] > > Sent: 28 February 2003 10:49 > > To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu > > Subject: RE: EIP in MBNWSA.NSS abend still appear > > > > > > Hi Phil and thanks! > > Yes, NSS-volumes is mounted in autoexec. I just did Verify in > > NSS menu after > > I patched NSS-files and no errors (there is two NSS-volumes + > > admin) appear. > > As I didn't find any errors I didn't try to Rebuild those two > > volumes. But > > must I still Rebuild? Also, strange is that all NSS-volumes > > works (as I see) > > well - they also mount good. Bad is that when I try to bring > > server down > > then I must use Ctrl-Alt-Esc and mirror (on traditional SYS1 > > volume) is > > broken. > > What this module MBNWSA.NSS is responsible for? Abends happen > > just at random > > time. And when it once happen then it does not happen again > > (for now at > > least). > > More thanks, > > Alar. > > PS! Sorry, I sent twice same last email into list. As I > > didn't see it appear > > in web-view. > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 11:16:04 -0000 > > From: "Randal, Phil" > > To: "'Novell LAN Interest Group'" > > Subject: RE: EIP in MBNWSA.NSS abend still appear > > Message-ID: > > <0EBC45FCABFC95428EBFC3A51B368C95513657 at > jessica.herefordshire.gov.uk> > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > Precedence: list > > Reply-To: Novell LAN Interest Group > > Message: 18 > > > > Alar, > > > > Make sure the NSS volume isn't mounted in your Autoexec.ncf. > > > > Then at the console type > > > > nss menu > > > > Go to the Utilities menu, select rebuild, and rebuild the > NSS volume. > > > > when that's complete, try mounting it. > > > > Or have you done all this already? > > > > Phil > > > > --------------------------------------------- > > Phil Randal > > Network Engineer > > Herefordshire Council > > Hereford, UK > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar at mtk.ut.ee] > > > Sent: 27 February 2003 11:19 > > > To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu > > > Subject: EIP in MBNWSA.NSS abend still appear > > > > > > > > > Hi again! > > > I have still same problem on NW5.1SP5 (SCSI env. 9GB SYS, > > > 18GB mirrored SYS1 > > > - traditional volumes; also 18GB and 32GB NSS volumes). I'd > > > add latest NSS > > > patches for NW5.1 (nns5o.exe), but ... same abend hit again. > > > I can't tell > > > what services is affected. Seems to work as usual. But ... > > > why this abend > > > started appear ... I have no clue. > > > Any further ideas? Experiences? > > > More thanks, > > > Alar. > > > > > > Registers: > > > CS = 0008 DS = 0010 ES = 0010 FS = 0010 GS = 0010 SS = 0010 > > > EAX = 00006365 EBX = 65657246 ECX = C6AA8D60 EDX = CBBC52A0 > > > ESI = D0C7DBCE EDI = 00000000 EBP = D0C7DB84 ESP = C6AA8D44 > > > EIP = D7B63261 FLAGS = 00010246 > > > D7B63261 8B9B7C010000 MOV EBX,[EBX+0000017C]=? > > > EIP in MBNWSA.NSS at code start +00040261h > > > Access Location: 0x656573C2 > > > > > > The violation occurred while processing the following instruction: > > > D7B63261 8B9B7C010000 MOV EBX,[EBX+0000017C] > > > D7B63267 8B4328 MOV EAX,[EBX+28] > > > D7B6326A 25FEFFFFFF AND EAX,FFFFFFFE > > > D7B6326F 0F8434000000 JZ D7B632A9 > > > D7B63275 8B4328 MOV EAX,[EBX+28] > > > D7B63278 2501000000 AND EAX,00000001 > > > D7B6327D 0F8507000000 JNZ D7B6328A > > > D7B63283 B81453B6D7 MOV EAX,D7B65314 > > > D7B63288 FF20 JMP near ptr [EAX] > > > D7B6328A 33C0 XOR EAX,EAX > > > > > > > > > > > > Running process: Server 33 Process > > > Created by: NetWare Application > > > Thread Owned by NLM: SERVER.NLM > > > Stack pointer: C6AA8C30 > > > OS Stack limit: C6AA1040 > > > Scheduling priority: 67371008 > > > Wait state: 5050090 (Wait for interrupt) > > > Stack: D569ACE0 (NCPIPX.NLM|FinishUpPacket+B6) > > > --D0C7DBCE ? > > > -D56A03F0 (NCPIPX.NLM|IPXReplyProceduresVector+0) > > > ... > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Novell mailing list > > > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > > > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Novell mailing list > > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > From prandal at herefordshire.gov.uk Fri Feb 28 16:30:47 2003 From: prandal at herefordshire.gov.uk (Randal, Phil) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 16:30:47 -0000 Subject: EIP in MBNWSA.NSS abend still appear Message-ID: <0EBC45FCABFC95428EBFC3A51B368C9551366B@jessica.herefordshire.gov.uk> One other thought... Is it a Compaq server? If so, comment out SURVEY.NLM from your autoexec.ncf. And then at some later date apply the latest Compaq SP for Netware. Cheers, Phil --------------------------------------------- Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK > -----Original Message----- > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar at mtk.ut.ee] > Sent: 28 February 2003 16:28 > To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu > Subject: RE: EIP in MBNWSA.NSS abend still appear > > > Hi again and thanks! > Well, then may be I must first give to try for tcpip etc. > updates and see > what will happen next? Or You think this Rebuild is also > needed even Verify > didn't show any errors? > More thanks, > Alar. > > -----Original Message----- > Randal, Phil prandal at herefordshire.gov.uk > Fri Feb 28 11:13:29 MST 2003 > > I'd do an NSS Rebuild anyhow. I always do after NSS-releated crashes. > > Since I've put NSS5O on our servers we've had no NSS-related abends. > We had seen that abend before, which is why I updated NSS in the first > place. > > My current patchset is NW51SP5 plus: > > Changes since SP5 release (updated 31 Jan 2003): > > 1: Updated TCPIP.NLM, etc from tcp581o.exe > 2: Added filesys.nlm from flsysft8.exe > 3: Added NSS update from nss5o.exe > 4: Added nwmem2.exe files > 5: Added dhcp312a.exe files > 6: Added tsa5up11.exe files > 7: Updated portal.nlm from prtlft3.exe > > There are other patches, but the issues they address haven't > affected us > (yet), > so I'm happy to wait for SP6. > > Cheers, > > Phil > --------------------------------------------- > Phil Randal > Network Engineer > Herefordshire Council > Hereford, UK > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar at mtk.ut.ee] > > Sent: 28 February 2003 10:49 > > To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu > > Subject: RE: EIP in MBNWSA.NSS abend still appear > > > > > > Hi Phil and thanks! > > Yes, NSS-volumes is mounted in autoexec. I just did Verify in > > NSS menu after > > I patched NSS-files and no errors (there is two NSS-volumes + > > admin) appear. > > As I didn't find any errors I didn't try to Rebuild those two > > volumes. But > > must I still Rebuild? Also, strange is that all NSS-volumes > > works (as I see) > > well - they also mount good. Bad is that when I try to bring > > server down > > then I must use Ctrl-Alt-Esc and mirror (on traditional SYS1 > > volume) is > > broken. > > What this module MBNWSA.NSS is responsible for? Abends happen > > just at random > > time. And when it once happen then it does not happen again > > (for now at > > least). > > More thanks, > > Alar. > > PS! Sorry, I sent twice same last email into list. As I > > didn't see it appear > > in web-view. > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 11:16:04 -0000 > > From: "Randal, Phil" > > To: "'Novell LAN Interest Group'" > > Subject: RE: EIP in MBNWSA.NSS abend still appear > > Message-ID: > > <0EBC45FCABFC95428EBFC3A51B368C95513657 at > jessica.herefordshire.gov.uk> > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > Precedence: list > > Reply-To: Novell LAN Interest Group > > Message: 18 > > > > Alar, > > > > Make sure the NSS volume isn't mounted in your Autoexec.ncf. > > > > Then at the console type > > > > nss menu > > > > Go to the Utilities menu, select rebuild, and rebuild the > NSS volume. > > > > when that's complete, try mounting it. > > > > Or have you done all this already? > > > > Phil > > > > --------------------------------------------- > > Phil Randal > > Network Engineer > > Herefordshire Council > > Hereford, UK > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar at mtk.ut.ee] > > > Sent: 27 February 2003 11:19 > > > To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu > > > Subject: EIP in MBNWSA.NSS abend still appear > > > > > > > > > Hi again! > > > I have still same problem on NW5.1SP5 (SCSI env. 9GB SYS, > > > 18GB mirrored SYS1 > > > - traditional volumes; also 18GB and 32GB NSS volumes). I'd > > > add latest NSS > > > patches for NW5.1 (nns5o.exe), but ... same abend hit again. > > > I can't tell > > > what services is affected. Seems to work as usual. But ... > > > why this abend > > > started appear ... I have no clue. > > > Any further ideas? Experiences? > > > More thanks, > > > Alar. > > > > > > Registers: > > > CS = 0008 DS = 0010 ES = 0010 FS = 0010 GS = 0010 SS = 0010 > > > EAX = 00006365 EBX = 65657246 ECX = C6AA8D60 EDX = CBBC52A0 > > > ESI = D0C7DBCE EDI = 00000000 EBP = D0C7DB84 ESP = C6AA8D44 > > > EIP = D7B63261 FLAGS = 00010246 > > > D7B63261 8B9B7C010000 MOV EBX,[EBX+0000017C]=? > > > EIP in MBNWSA.NSS at code start +00040261h > > > Access Location: 0x656573C2 > > > > > > The violation occurred while processing the following instruction: > > > D7B63261 8B9B7C010000 MOV EBX,[EBX+0000017C] > > > D7B63267 8B4328 MOV EAX,[EBX+28] > > > D7B6326A 25FEFFFFFF AND EAX,FFFFFFFE > > > D7B6326F 0F8434000000 JZ D7B632A9 > > > D7B63275 8B4328 MOV EAX,[EBX+28] > > > D7B63278 2501000000 AND EAX,00000001 > > > D7B6327D 0F8507000000 JNZ D7B6328A > > > D7B63283 B81453B6D7 MOV EAX,D7B65314 > > > D7B63288 FF20 JMP near ptr [EAX] > > > D7B6328A 33C0 XOR EAX,EAX > > > > > > > > > > > > Running process: Server 33 Process > > > Created by: NetWare Application > > > Thread Owned by NLM: SERVER.NLM > > > Stack pointer: C6AA8C30 > > > OS Stack limit: C6AA1040 > > > Scheduling priority: 67371008 > > > Wait state: 5050090 (Wait for interrupt) > > > Stack: D569ACE0 (NCPIPX.NLM|FinishUpPacket+B6) > > > --D0C7DBCE ? > > > -D56A03F0 (NCPIPX.NLM|IPXReplyProceduresVector+0) > > > ... > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Novell mailing list > > > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > > > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Novell mailing list > > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > From ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu Fri Feb 28 17:34:52 2003 From: ACQUISTJ at lan.newpaltz.edu (Joe Acquisto) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:34:52 -0500 Subject: jrb setname question Message-ID: JRB v9, using setname via command line, [setname.exe username /a="Internet Email Address"=usersmail] works (square brackets for clairity). putting same in a file and running [setname.exe @filename] stuff it into "full ame" instead. Duh? ----------------------------------------- Joe Acquisto SUNY New Paltz 845-257-3134 (V) 845-257-6900 (F) --------------------------------------------------- Remember: once, everyone "Knew" the world was flat. --------------------------------------------------- From dmoon at peru.k12.in.us Wed Feb 26 13:02:15 2003 From: dmoon at peru.k12.in.us (Dave Moon) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 08:02:15 -0500 Subject: off topic: Star Office Message-ID: We are looking at star office. Can someone point me to a good listserv for it. The support websites I find lacking. Thanks Dave Dave Moon Peru Community Schools 401 N. Broadway Peru, IN 46970 765-473-3081 fax 765-472-5156 From dmoon at peru.k12.in.us Wed Feb 26 13:55:48 2003 From: dmoon at peru.k12.in.us (Dave Moon) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 08:55:48 -0500 Subject: off topic: Star Office Message-ID: We are looking at star office. Can someone point me to a good listserv for it. The support websites I find lacking. Thanks Dave Dave Moon Peru Community Schools 401 N. Broadway Peru, IN 46970 765-473-3081 fax 765-472-5156 From dmoon at peru.k12.in.us Wed Feb 26 17:37:45 2003 From: dmoon at peru.k12.in.us (Dave Moon) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 12:37:45 -0500 Subject: off topic: Star Office Message-ID: We are looking at star office. Can someone point me to a good listserv for it. The support websites I find lacking. Thanks Dave Dave Moon Peru Community Schools 401 N. Broadway Peru, IN 46970 765-473-3081 fax 765-472-5156 From bkonicke at myrealbox.com Fri Feb 28 20:27:29 2003 From: bkonicke at myrealbox.com (Bob Konicke) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 14:27:29 -0600 Subject: User Tracking In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3E5FC631.2070401@myrealbox.com> Gordon Ross wrote: > I'm looking for some software to track/log user logins/logouts across > our NDS tree. Auditing within NetWare is too hard to do across multiple > servers. > > The software needs to run across NW 4.x/5.x/6.x with various versions > of DS. > Overkill for your needs, but we've had success with Blue Lance LT Auditor+. Hate so-called legacy auditing. Deficiencies are one thing, but the inability to make it go away has become painful. From bob.brownell at ig.state.ny.us Fri Feb 28 20:50:08 2003 From: bob.brownell at ig.state.ny.us (Bob Brownell) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 15:50:08 -0500 Subject: User Tracking Message-ID: We use AuditLogin from www.condreyconsulting.com I have only had to use it a couple of times, but my boss uses it often. We are satisfied. It runs across the WAN with Netware 5x and 6x for us. Bob >>> bkonicke at myrealbox.com 02/28/03 03:27PM >>> Gordon Ross wrote: > I'm looking for some software to track/log user logins/logouts across > our NDS tree. Auditing within NetWare is too hard to do across multiple > servers. > > The software needs to run across NW 4.x/5.x/6.x with various versions > of DS. > Overkill for your needs, but we've had success with Blue Lance LT Auditor+. Hate so-called legacy auditing. Deficiencies are one thing, but the inability to make it go away has become painful. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From angussf at geoapps.com Fri Feb 28 21:02:59 2003 From: angussf at geoapps.com (Angus Scott-Fleming) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 14:02:59 -0700 Subject: off topic: Star Office In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3E5F6C13.165.5C7FFA4@localhost> On 26 Feb 2003 at 8:02, Dave Moon wrote: > We are looking at star office. Can someone point me to a good listserv for it. Dunno about how good, but there are several at Yahoo Groups http://groups.yahoo.com/group/starofficeusers/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/staroffice_win/ You might start there -- with a disposable email address ;-) Also try these googles http://www.google.com/search?q=staroffice+%22mailing+list%22 http://www.google.com/search?q=%22star+office%22+%22mailing+list%22 Also, OpenOffice has a number of mailing lists http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html > The support websites I find lacking. > > Thanks > > Dave > > Dave Moon > Peru Community Schools > 401 N. Broadway > Peru, IN 46970 > 765-473-3081 > fax 765-472-5156 > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 / fax 1-208-248-3124 http://www.geoapps.com/ AIM: AngusWSF ICQ: 165646506 --------------------------------------------------------- From dmoon at peru.k12.in.us Fri Feb 28 20:53:56 2003 From: dmoon at peru.k12.in.us (Dave Moon) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 15:53:56 -0500 Subject: off topic: Star Office Message-ID: Sorry about the duplicates on this message. We found a problem today with messages pending but not being sent. As you can see it was corrected. Dave Dave Moon Peru Community Schools 401 N. Broadway Peru, IN 46970 765-473-3081 fax 765-472-5156 >>> dmoon at peru.k12.in.us 02/26/03 08:02AM >>> We are looking at star office. Can someone point me to a good listserv for it. The support websites I find lacking. Thanks Dave Dave Moon Peru Community Schools 401 N. Broadway Peru, IN 46970 765-473-3081 fax 765-472-5156 _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell