From lists at shuters.net Tue Jul 1 00:03:22 2008 From: lists at shuters.net (Matthew Shuter) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:03:22 -0400 Subject: Good SLES 10 book? In-Reply-To: <3E3EBD4AA56A9E4C8D04E2075088AD8D0200AF23@exchange.esiindy.net> References: <01MWK8SKR76A8YA4Q0@cc.usu.edu> <4868AA67.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> <3E3EBD4AA56A9E4C8D04E2075088AD8D0200AF23@exchange.esiindy.net> Message-ID: <4869663A.4040000@shuters.net> sweet... along the lines of what I was looking for as well. thanks Steve! :-) Steve Ricketts wrote: > SUSE Linux ToolBox by Christopher Negus & Fracnois CaEn > > ISBN: 978-0-470-08292-8 > > Great Reference book that has helped me immensly. > > Thanks, > Steve > > ________________________________ > > From: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk on behalf of Scott Etienne > Sent: Mon 6/30/2008 10:42 AM > To: novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > Subject: OT: Good SLES 10 book? > > > > I am looking for recommendations for a comprehensive book on SLES 10 with strong references to apache. > > I am looking for an A-Z book to use both as reference and how-to, with strong apache information. > > Thank you, > > Scott Etienne > Network Engineer > Enesco, LLC > setienne at enesco.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > > ESI > caring people. make IT happen. > > Steve Ricketts > System Engineer > > 6855 Hillsdale court > Indianapolis, IN 46250 > mail: sricketts at esitechadvisors.com > www: www.esitechadvisors.com > telephone: 317.225.8281 > fax: > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > > > This message contains confidential information and is intended only for novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk. 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If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. > -------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell __________________________________________________ D O T E A S Y - "Join the web hosting revolution!" http://www.doteasy.com From thorsten at thorstenkampe.de Tue Jul 1 09:08:44 2008 From: thorsten at thorstenkampe.de (Thorsten Kampe) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 10:08:44 +0200 Subject: U3 drives and Novell References: <4860E2F0.6D39.0014.3@nwpg.gov.za> <68b791330806260600r76c4ca46rb3a572eb967e44dc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: * Peter Van Lone (Thu, 26 Jun 2008 08:00:04 -0500) > pardon my ignorance ... but what the he-double-hockey-sticks is a "U3 > edition"? > > I know that some company makes thumb drives called U3 that have a > fancy (god, I hate it and always disable it) auto-run thing. Do 3rd > parties now develop application versions just for that frelling thing? > Is that what you are all talking about? > > Or, is "U3" some new kind of thin app like thinstall or the others, > where you can run an application anywhere, without impacting the local > machine --- so it is just another company doing that kind of app > packaging? 'U3 is a company producing a proprietary method of auto-launching applications from specially formatted USB flash drive. [...] "U3 smart drives" differ from traditional USB flash drives because they come preinstalled with the U3 Launchpad, which looks similar to the Windows OS start menu and controls program installation. [...] Applications are allowed to write files or registry information to the host computer, but this information must be removed when the flash drive is ejected. Customizations and settings are instead stored with the application on the flash drive.' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U3 From pjc9001 at nyp.org Wed Jul 2 01:27:17 2008 From: pjc9001 at nyp.org (Peter J. Cox) Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:27:17 -0400 Subject: User/File audit log in Netware Message-ID: <486ACB65.5070509@nyp.org> Does anyone know if there's a built in audit log or function for files in Netware? I need to create a log of user file interactions (creation, deletion, salvage, purge, access). -- If there are any questions or problems please contact me. _______________________ Peter J. Cox Network Manager, IT NY Methodist Hospital 718-780-3250 Office 718-780-5993 HelpDesk -------------------- This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address noted above, and delete and destroy all copies of this message. Thank you. From cmangiarelli at gmail.com Wed Jul 2 05:49:24 2008 From: cmangiarelli at gmail.com (Christopher Mangiarelli) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 00:49:24 -0400 Subject: User/File audit log in Netware In-Reply-To: <486ACB65.5070509@nyp.org> References: <486ACB65.5070509@nyp.org> Message-ID: Novell Audit will audit filesystem functions. Beware, file open/close instrumentation will crash your server due to a known memory leak. Bug fix filed with Novell but no ETA. You can safely audit file creation/deletion/purge and trustee changes. Sentinel will also do this, albeit at a higher pricetag. On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 8:27 PM, Peter J. Cox wrote: > Does anyone know if there's a built in audit log or function for files in > Netware? I need to create a log of user file interactions (creation, > deletion, salvage, purge, access). > -- Christopher Mangiarelli cmangiarelli at gmail.com From al.bray at usdwp.msu.edu Fri Jul 4 00:25:09 2008 From: al.bray at usdwp.msu.edu (Al Bray) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 19:25:09 -0400 Subject: User/File audit log in Netware Message-ID: <1215127546-22433@relay2.mail.ox.ac.uk> -----Original Message----- From: Peter J. Cox Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 8:27 PM To: Novell LAN Interest Group Subject: User/File audit log in Netware Does anyone know if there's a built in audit log or function for files in Netware? I to create a log of user file interactions (creation, deletion, salvage, purge, access). -- If there are any questions or problems please contact me. _______________________ Peter J. Cox Network Manager, IT NY Methodist Hospital 718-780-3250 Office 718-780-5993 HelpDesk -------------------- This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address noted above, and delete and destroy all copies of this message. Thank you. --- Scanned by M+ Guardian Messaging Firewall --- From MollardM at mbc.qld.edu.au Fri Jul 4 01:03:20 2008 From: MollardM at mbc.qld.edu.au (Michael Mollard) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 10:03:20 +1000 Subject: iChain Logout Issues - help? Message-ID: <486DF57B.E927.0018.0@mbc.qld.edu.au> Hi all, We are running iChain 2.3sp5. I have a Coldfusion App that has the usual login, logout links. I have the authentication and formfill working fine. I have a urlpolicy for the logout, which does a and to the iChain BM-Logout page. According tot he trace on the server, the 'Logout' urlpolicy is being triggered, the deleteRemembered and redirect are being processed, but still the browser goes back to the login page, and the formfill still auto fills the credentials, and logs in. I have no more ideas. Here are my formfill, and trace from SSO.NLM Any udeas would be gratefully accepted . Thanks. ====FORMFILL========================= Tass.Portal.Kiosk.Logout tassportal.mbc.qld.edu.au/kiosk/security/TIALogout.cfm Tass.Portal.Kiosk.Login https://tassportal.mbc.qld.edu.au/cmd/BM-Logout Tass.Portal.Kiosk.Login.Failure tassportal.mbc.qld.edu.au/kiosk/* TIA Login Failure Tass.Portal.Kiosk.Login https://tassportal.mbc.qld.edu.au/kiosk/TIALogin.cfm Tass.Portal.Kiosk.Login tassportal.mbc.qld.edu.au/kiosk/* TIA Login ==SSO Trace================================== SSO_1: No policy: 'tassportal.mbc.qld.edu.au/kiosk/security/TIALogout.cfm' SSO_4: tassportal.mbc.qld.edu.au/kiosk/security/TIALogout.cfm SSO_4: Policy 'Tass.Portal.Kiosk.Logout': tassportal.mbc.qld.edu.au/kiosk/securi ty/TIALogout.cfm deleteRemembered: Executing policy 'Tass.Portal.Kiosk.Logout'; fillPolicy 'Tass. Portal.Kiosk.Login' performActions: doing redirect to 'https://tassportal.mbc.qld.edu.au/cmd/BM-Logo ut' SSO_4: New page data SSO_1: No policy: 'tassportal.mbc.qld.edu.au/kiosk/TIALogin.cfm' SSO_4: tassportal.mbc.qld.edu.au/kiosk/TIALogin.cfm SSO_4: Policy 'Tass.Portal.Kiosk.Login': tassportal.mbc.qld.edu.au/kiosk/TIALogi n.cfm SSO_4: formfill no cache flag is turned on SSO_4: New page data SSO_1: No policy: 'tassportal.mbc.qld.edu.au/kiosk/TIALogin.cfm' SSO_4: tassportal.mbc.qld.edu.au/kiosk/TIALogin.cfm SSO_4: No Policy: 'tassportal.mbc.qld.edu.au/kiosk/TIALogin.cfm' SSO_1: No policy: 'tassportal.mbc.qld.edu.au/kiosk/tiamenu/TIAProdAreas.cfm' SSO_1: No policy: 'tassportal.mbc.qld.edu.au/kiosk/news/index.cfm' SSO_4: tassportal.mbc.qld.edu.au/kiosk/tiamenu/TIAProdAreas.cfm SSO_4: No Policy: 'tassportal.mbc.qld.edu.au/kiosk/tiamenu/TIAProdAreas.cfm' SSO_4: tassportal.mbc.qld.edu.au/kiosk/news/index.cfm SSO_4: No Policy: 'tassportal.mbc.qld.edu.au/kiosk/news/index.cfm' SSO_1: Ignoring 'gif' extension Michael Mollard Network Administrator Moreton Bay College mollardm at mbc.qld.edu.au http://www.mbc.qld.edu.au Ph: (Direct) 07 3907 5712 / (Mob) 0417 631 801 Fax: 07 3390 8919 ( http://www.mbc.qld.edu.au ) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Disclaimer: Whilst every attempt has been made to ensure that material contained in this email is free from computer viruses or other defects, the attached files are provided, and may only be used, on the basis that the user assumes all responsibility for use of the material transmitted. 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From JRD at cc.usu.edu Sun Jul 6 14:45:33 2008 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 07:45:33 -0600 (MDT) Subject: SLES rpm install Message-ID: <01MWTT0T2P4I8YADYO@cc.usu.edu> > >Happens that I am attempting install of VMware Server console, after installing VMware server, on SLES 10.1. > >Doing rpm -iv VMware-blah, it returned to console prompt, promptly, without a word. >Doing rpm -q VMware-blah, tells me package is not installed >Doing rpm -iv VMware-blah, tells me package is already installed > >Wonderful. >joe a. -------------- A better method is rpm -q -a |grep -i vmware That way all RPMs are looked at, a case-independent pattern is used, and the blah portion is not tripping up one. VMware server has two versions: v1 which has its own console built-in, and v2 beta which is a shambles and is best avoided. Joe D. From joea at j4computers.com Sun Jul 6 15:20:22 2008 From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com) Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 10:20:22 -0400 Subject: SLES rpm install In-Reply-To: <01MWTT0T2P4I8YADYO@cc.usu.edu> References: <01MWTT0T2P4I8YADYO@cc.usu.edu> Message-ID: <48709C63.917D.0085.0@j4computers.com> >>> On 7/6/2008 at 9:45 AM, Joe Doupnik wrote: >> . . . >> >>Doing rpm -iv VMware-blah, it returned to console prompt, promptly, without a > word. >>Doing rpm -q VMware-blah, tells me package is not installed >>Doing rpm -iv VMware-blah, tells me package is already installed >>. . . > A better method is > rpm -q -a |grep -i vmware > That way all RPMs are looked at, a case-independent pattern is used, and > the blah portion is not tripping up one. > VMware server has two versions: v1 which has its own console built-in, > and v2 beta which is a shambles and is best avoided. > Joe D. > That returns: VMware-server-1.0.5-8017 VMware-server-console-1.0.5-8017 Yet I still seem unable to connect to the "console", either via web browser at port 904, or via the (windows) "server console". Aha. For the latter, for "host name" I can say "ipaddress:904" and it connects. Contrasted to saying simply "ipaddress" and getting a rude reply. For the former, no joy attempting to connect to ipaddress:904 (http or https), as I understood should be possible. I can get to https://ipaddress:8333 and port 80. In any case, apparently I can now start to make virtual machines. joe a. From James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Sun Jul 6 20:07:41 2008 From: James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com (James Taylor) Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 15:07:41 -0400 Subject: SLES rpm install Message-ID: <4870DFBD0200007500006D61@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> After you install the VMware console, you still have to run the /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl script beforeVMware Console will start. All it does is, as far as I can tell, is to display the EULA andhave you accept it. -jt >>> "joea at j4computers.com" 07/06/08 10:21 AM >>> >>> On 7/6/2008 at 9:45 AM, Joe Doupnik wrote: >> . . . >> >>Doing rpm -iv VMware-blah, it returned to console prompt, promptly, without a > word. >>Doing rpm -q VMware-blah, tells me package is not installed >>Doing rpm -iv VMware-blah, tells me package is already installed >>. . . > A better method is > rpm -q -a |grep -i vmware > That way all RPMs are looked at, a case-independent pattern is used, and > the blah portion is not tripping up one. > VMware server has two versions: v1 which has its own console built-in, > and v2 beta which is a shambles and is best avoided. > Joe D. > That returns: VMware-server-1.0.5-8017 VMware-server-console-1.0.5-8017 Yet I still seem unable to connect to the "console", either via web browser at port 904, or via the (windows) "server console". Aha. For the latter, for "host name" I can say "ipaddress:904" and it connects. Contrasted to saying simply "ipaddress" and getting a rude reply. For the former, no joy attempting to connect to ipaddress:904 (http or https), as I understood should be possible. I can get to https://ipaddress:8333 and port 80. In any case, apparently I can now start to make virtual machines. joe a. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From Phil.brown at port.ac.uk Tue Jul 8 12:35:17 2008 From: Phil.brown at port.ac.uk (Phil Brown) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 12:35:17 +0100 Subject: help with lum Message-ID: I am involved in a project to set up a student lab to use linux. we are currently planning to user SLRD10 SP2 LUM & novell clent for linux I have LUM authenticating ok & I have managed to get automatic login with novell client on a SP1 test system, but this involves manually logging in the running the client and setting it up to remember settings fro next login. This would not be any good in a multi user student lab. Am I missing something, is there a way to automate this link up. If not does anyone have any info on how to mount netware volumes using pam_mount or automount? thanks in advance for any help Phil Brown --- This mail was sent with the Java email client Columba. Read more at http://columbamail.org From Setienne at enesco.com Tue Jul 8 15:14:50 2008 From: Setienne at enesco.com (Scott Etienne) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 09:14:50 -0500 Subject: Good SLES 10 book? In-Reply-To: <4869663A.4040000@shuters.net> References: <01MWK8SKR76A8YA4Q0@cc.usu.edu> <4868AA67.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> <3E3EBD4AA56A9E4C8D04E2075088AD8D0200AF23@exchange.esiindy.net> <4869663A.4040000@shuters.net> Message-ID: <4873300A.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> Yea--what he said. Scott >>> Matthew Shuter 6/30/2008 6:03 PM >>> sweet... along the lines of what I was looking for as well. thanks Steve! :-) Steve Ricketts wrote: > SUSE Linux ToolBox by Christopher Negus & Fracnois CaEn > > ISBN: 978-0-470-08292-8 > > Great Reference book that has helped me immensly. > > Thanks, > Steve > > ________________________________ > > From: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk on behalf of Scott Etienne > Sent: Mon 6/30/2008 10:42 AM > To: novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > Subject: OT: Good SLES 10 book? > > > > I am looking for recommendations for a comprehensive book on SLES 10 with strong references to apache. > > I am looking for an A-Z book to use both as reference and how-to, with strong apache information. > > Thank you, > > Scott Etienne > Network Engineer > Enesco, LLC > setienne at enesco.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > > ESI > caring people. make IT happen. > > Steve Ricketts > System Engineer > > 6855 Hillsdale court > Indianapolis, IN 46250 > mail: sricketts at esitechadvisors.com > www: www.esitechadvisors.com > telephone: 317.225.8281 > fax: > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > > > This message contains confidential information and is intended only for novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk. 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If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. > -------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell __________________________________________________ D O T E A S Y - "Join the web hosting revolution!" http://www.doteasy.com _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From Setienne at enesco.com Tue Jul 8 15:56:00 2008 From: Setienne at enesco.com (Scott Etienne) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 09:56:00 -0500 Subject: SLES imaging suggestions? Message-ID: <487339B0.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> When I read the documentation about using ZENWorks to image a Linux server regarding script building and whatnot, my eyes start to glaze over. Before I spend a lot of time trying to figure this out and make it work, can someone tell me is it as simple as using Norton Ghost, or should I look elsewhere? Requirement: Simple as Symantec Ghost--especially since my boss requested this, so he can easily recover a server in my absence (he used to be a network admin and possesses some technical skill). We want to be able to boot from a cd, flash-drive or floppy, and recover a complete, server image from the network, flash-drive or CD's. Suggestions? Thank you, Scott Etienne Network Engineer Enesco, LLC setienne at enesco.com From andrew.foulsham at imm.ox.ac.uk Tue Jul 8 16:12:43 2008 From: andrew.foulsham at imm.ox.ac.uk (Andrew Foulsham) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:12:43 +0100 Subject: SLES imaging suggestions? In-Reply-To: <487339B0.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> References: <487339B0.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> Message-ID: <487391F4.170A.0099.0@gwmail.jr2.ox.ac.uk> >>> "Scott Etienne" 08/07/2008 15:56 >>> >When I read the documentation about using ZENWorks to image a Linux server regarding script building and >whatnot, my eyes start to glaze over. Before I spend a lot of time trying to figure this out and make it work, can >someone tell me is it as simple as using Norton Ghost, or should I look elsewhere? Requirement: Simple as >Symantec Ghost--especially since my boss requested this, so he can easily recover a server in my absence (he >used to be a network admin and possesses some technical skill). > >We want to be able to boot from a cd, flash-drive or floppy, and recover a complete, server image from the >network, flash-drive or CD's. I've used Ghost for Unix quite successfully in the past - http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/ . All it needs is to boot from a CD and uses an FTP server at the back end. Not something for pushing out a large number of identical systems, but functional enough. I've also heard good reports of FOG - http://freeghost.no-ip.org/ , but I haven't made use of it yet. I hope that helps, Andrew From JRD at cc.usu.edu Tue Jul 8 16:10:48 2008 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 09:10:48 -0600 (MDT) Subject: SLES imaging suggestions? Message-ID: <01MWWOF3X0V68YAEF4@cc.usu.edu> >When I read the documentation about using ZENWorks to image a Linux server regarding script building and whatnot, my eyes start to glaze over. Before I spend a lot of time trying to figure this out and make it work, can someone tell me is it as simple as using Norton Ghost, or should I look elsewhere? Requirement: Simple as Symantec Ghost--especially since my boss requested this, so he can easily recover a server in my absence (he used to be a network admin and possesses some technical skill). > >We want to be able to boot from a cd, flash-drive or floppy, and recover a complete, server image from the network, flash-drive or CD's. > >Suggestions? > >Thank you, > >Scott Etienne >Network Engineer >Enesco, LLC >setienne at enesco.com ------ If nothing ever changed on a server's o/s image you could just do a sector copy and have done with the problem. Alas, that is not the case. Which then takes us into the favorite subject of regular backups. There are a variety of sector copying programs, Ghost, Acronis, and not least plain old dd. There are file archiving programs, such as tar, dump/restore, and so on. I use dump/restore, on XFS file systems. There are the usual suspects commercial backup programs. There is even Novell's nbackup, part of OES2. We should not forget rsync to do on the fly second-copies. This is all for POSIX file systems, though nbackup is SMS compliant to do full NSS copying. Do keep in mind that open files can be a plague to on-line backups. Thus single user mode is wise, and that means down time, and in turn this suggests having a careful look at the capacity to be archived. A sector copy of an entire O/S file system will take time and appropriate storage media, plus the rebooting for single user mode. In short, "it all depends." If none of the above meets approval then consider clustering and just plain clod spares. Joe D. From petervl at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 16:48:22 2008 From: petervl at gmail.com (Peter Van Lone) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 10:48:22 -0500 Subject: OT? SLES partitioning on VMWare Message-ID: <68b791330807080848w3ceaefbco26949003040eeda6@mail.gmail.com> Just wondering what others do as a standard, when creating a SLES install on VMWare. I need to create a "pure" SLES (ie no OES stuff) install for a web server w/php and unixodbc and mysql I figured 15GB would be fine for the disk. However, with that small disk size, does it make sense to have seperate /, /root, /boot, /swap, /var and /home partitions? The installer suggests only a 1.4GB swap and the remaining as / Opinions? Peter -- "There is a grandeur in this view of life, a life in which endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being, evolved." Charles Darwin The Origin of Species http://xkcd.com/167/ www.the-brights.net From Setienne at enesco.com Tue Jul 8 17:01:34 2008 From: Setienne at enesco.com (Scott Etienne) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:01:34 -0500 Subject: SLES imaging suggestions? In-Reply-To: <487391F4.170A.0099.0@gwmail.jr2.ox.ac.uk> References: <487339B0.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> <487391F4.170A.0099.0@gwmail.jr2.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4873490E.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> Very helpful. Thanks. Scot >>> "Andrew Foulsham" 7/8/2008 10:12 AM >>> >>> "Scott Etienne" 08/07/2008 15:56 >>> >When I read the documentation about using ZENWorks to image a Linux server regarding script building and >whatnot, my eyes start to glaze over. Before I spend a lot of time trying to figure this out and make it work, can >someone tell me is it as simple as using Norton Ghost, or should I look elsewhere? Requirement: Simple as >Symantec Ghost--especially since my boss requested this, so he can easily recover a server in my absence (he >used to be a network admin and possesses some technical skill). > >We want to be able to boot from a cd, flash-drive or floppy, and recover a complete, server image from the >network, flash-drive or CD's. I've used Ghost for Unix quite successfully in the past - http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/ . All it needs is to boot from a CD and uses an FTP server at the back end. Not something for pushing out a large number of identical systems, but functional enough. I've also heard good reports of FOG - http://freeghost.no-ip.org/ , but I haven't made use of it yet. I hope that helps, Andrew _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From JRD at cc.usu.edu Tue Jul 8 16:57:15 2008 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 09:57:15 -0600 (MDT) Subject: OT? SLES partitioning on VMWare Message-ID: <01MWWQ4VRT6Q8YAGUV@cc.usu.edu> >Just wondering what others do as a standard, when creating a SLES >install on VMWare. > >I need to create a "pure" SLES (ie no OES stuff) install for a web >server w/php and unixodbc and mysql > >I figured 15GB would be fine for the disk. However, with that small >disk size, does it make sense to have seperate /, /root, /boot, >/swap, /var and /home partitions? > >The installer suggests only a 1.4GB swap and the remaining as / > >Opinions? > >Peter --------- I have the distinct feeling of you moving too quickly. Let's slow down and think things through before making decisions. First, think though swap. 1.4GB is waaaay to large. Once several hundred MB appear in swap your system is overloaded and will crawl; add memory or subtract usage. 512MB is very generous. Don't over partition. Instead, add copious space by mounting new disk areas. /root is merely root's home directory, as an example. /boot: create (small, 64MB is lots) only if you wish to play safe with broken GRUB. Build a test o/s, observe where space goes, use that as a starting point to build a usable system. Joe D. From Setienne at enesco.com Tue Jul 8 17:02:50 2008 From: Setienne at enesco.com (Scott Etienne) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:02:50 -0500 Subject: SLES imaging suggestions? In-Reply-To: <01MWWOF3X0V68YAEF4@cc.usu.edu> References: <01MWWOF3X0V68YAEF4@cc.usu.edu> Message-ID: <4873495A.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> Thanks, Joe! Scott >>> Joe Doupnik 7/8/2008 10:10 AM >>> >When I read the documentation about using ZENWorks to image a Linux server regarding script building and whatnot, my eyes start to glaze over. Before I spend a lot of time trying to figure this out and make it work, can someone tell me is it as simple as using Norton Ghost, or should I look elsewhere? Requirement: Simple as Symantec Ghost--especially since my boss requested this, so he can easily recover a server in my absence (he used to be a network admin and possesses some technical skill). > >We want to be able to boot from a cd, flash-drive or floppy, and recover a complete, server image from the network, flash-drive or CD's. > >Suggestions? > >Thank you, > >Scott Etienne >Network Engineer >Enesco, LLC >setienne at enesco.com ------ If nothing ever changed on a server's o/s image you could just do a sector copy and have done with the problem. Alas, that is not the case. Which then takes us into the favorite subject of regular backups. There are a variety of sector copying programs, Ghost, Acronis, and not least plain old dd. There are file archiving programs, such as tar, dump/restore, and so on. I use dump/restore, on XFS file systems. There are the usual suspects commercial backup programs. There is even Novell's nbackup, part of OES2. We should not forget rsync to do on the fly second-copies. This is all for POSIX file systems, though nbackup is SMS compliant to do full NSS copying. Do keep in mind that open files can be a plague to on-line backups. Thus single user mode is wise, and that means down time, and in turn this suggests having a careful look at the capacity to be archived. A sector copy of an entire O/S file system will take time and appropriate storage media, plus the rebooting for single user mode. In short, "it all depends." If none of the above meets approval then consider clustering and just plain clod spares. Joe D. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From petervl at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 17:10:32 2008 From: petervl at gmail.com (Peter Van Lone) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 11:10:32 -0500 Subject: OT? SLES partitioning on VMWare In-Reply-To: <01MWWQ4VRT6Q8YAGUV@cc.usu.edu> References: <01MWWQ4VRT6Q8YAGUV@cc.usu.edu> Message-ID: <68b791330807080910n2e9d338anc7b48ccf94551499@mail.gmail.com> Joe -- I'm simply asking for what you (or others) would choose as a partitioning scheme given a 15GB virtual drive to carve up for a web server. Other than "testing and lab work", what would YOU do, Joe -- are you suggesting that you would accept the partitioning scheme offered by the installation program (with the modifcation of making /swap smaller)? Peter On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Joe Doupnik wrote: >>Just wondering what others do as a standard, when creating a SLES >>install on VMWare. >> >>I need to create a "pure" SLES (ie no OES stuff) install for a web >>server w/php and unixodbc and mysql >> >>I figured 15GB would be fine for the disk. However, with that small >>disk size, does it make sense to have seperate /, /root, /boot, >>/swap, /var and /home partitions? >> >>The installer suggests only a 1.4GB swap and the remaining as / >> >>Opinions? >> >>Peter > --------- > I have the distinct feeling of you moving too quickly. > Let's slow down and think things through before making decisions. > First, think though swap. 1.4GB is waaaay to large. Once > several hundred MB appear in swap your system is overloaded and > will crawl; add memory or subtract usage. 512MB is very generous. > Don't over partition. Instead, add copious space by mounting > new disk areas. /root is merely root's home directory, as an example. > /boot: create (small, 64MB is lots) only if you wish to play > safe with broken GRUB. > Build a test o/s, observe where space goes, use that as a > starting point to build a usable system. > Joe D. > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > -- "There is a grandeur in this view of life, a life in which endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being, evolved." Charles Darwin The Origin of Species http://xkcd.com/167/ www.the-brights.net From Setienne at enesco.com Tue Jul 8 19:44:17 2008 From: Setienne at enesco.com (Scott Etienne) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 13:44:17 -0500 Subject: OES2 and Novell DNS In-Reply-To: <68b791330807080910n2e9d338anc7b48ccf94551499@mail.gmail.com> References: <01MWWQ4VRT6Q8YAGUV@cc.usu.edu> <68b791330807080910n2e9d338anc7b48ccf94551499@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48736F32.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> The documentation supports edirectory-based DNS and DHCP on OES2. Has anyone have it running? Is it solid? Thank you, Scott Etienne Network Engineer Enesco, LLC setienne at enesco.com From petervl at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 20:16:09 2008 From: petervl at gmail.com (Peter Van Lone) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 14:16:09 -0500 Subject: OES2 and Novell DNS In-Reply-To: <48736F32.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> References: <01MWWQ4VRT6Q8YAGUV@cc.usu.edu> <68b791330807080910n2e9d338anc7b48ccf94551499@mail.gmail.com> <48736F32.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> Message-ID: <68b791330807081216r5c3d71c6ufef09bc8a1fb077c@mail.gmail.com> I'm not sure there are more than a handful of people fully deploying OES2 linux -- are there? You are a frontiersman, I think .... Peter On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:44 PM, Scott Etienne wrote: > The documentation supports edirectory-based DNS and DHCP on OES2. > > Has anyone have it running? Is it solid? > > Thank you, > > Scott Etienne > Network Engineer > Enesco, LLC > setienne at enesco.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > -- "There is a grandeur in this view of life, a life in which endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being, evolved." Charles Darwin The Origin of Species http://xkcd.com/167/ www.the-brights.net From TJohnson at lancaster.wnyric.org Tue Jul 8 20:36:29 2008 From: TJohnson at lancaster.wnyric.org (TJohnson at lancaster.wnyric.org) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 15:36:29 -0400 Subject: OES2 and Novell DNS In-Reply-To: <68b791330807081216r5c3d71c6ufef09bc8a1fb077c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: We have pushed back our planned deployment but it is more due to having time constraints and having everything ready for our school year start in September. I have OES2/Linux 64 bit test tree with DNS running and have had no issues with resolution but the caveat is that we have only one zone to manage and we forward any requests outside our zone to an outside DNS server so not the most complicated setup but it works. I tried DHCP on a previous test network and it worked and also pushed down SLP information without issue but I had a bear of a time trying to get Dynamic DNS working, it never did work, no zones were available when picking a zone to allow Dynamic DNS updates in iManager. One issue with DNS, I was not able to have forwarding work when forwarders were assigned at the zone level, only at the server level, not a problem in our network but not ideal. Make sure you LDAP house is in order before trying to implement DNS or DHCP. We also have run Novell Cluster Services with NSS, ext3 and ReiserFS volumes without issue along with iPrint. bear in mind that this is all test network stuff. Hope this helps. Tim "Peter Van Lone" Sent by: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk 07/08/2008 03:16 PM Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group To "Novell LAN Interest Group" cc Subject Re: OES2 and Novell DNS I'm not sure there are more than a handful of people fully deploying OES2 linux -- are there? You are a frontiersman, I think .... Peter On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:44 PM, Scott Etienne wrote: > The documentation supports edirectory-based DNS and DHCP on OES2. > > Has anyone have it running? Is it solid? > > Thank you, > > Scott Etienne > Network Engineer > Enesco, LLC > setienne at enesco.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > -- "There is a grandeur in this view of life, a life in which endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being, evolved." Charles Darwin The Origin of Species http://xkcd.com/167/ www.the-brights.net _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell -- BEGIN-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS ------------------------------------------------------ Teach CanIt if this mail (ID 134428625) is spam: Spam: http://milton1.wnyric.org/canit/b.php?i=134428625&m=99be604bbf12&c=s Not spam: http://milton1.wnyric.org/canit/b.php?i=134428625&m=99be604bbf12&c=n Forget vote: http://milton1.wnyric.org/canit/b.php?i=134428625&m=99be604bbf12&c=f ------------------------------------------------------ END-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS From mrsmith at oconee.k12.ga.us Tue Jul 8 21:14:06 2008 From: mrsmith at oconee.k12.ga.us (Matt Smith) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:14:06 -0400 Subject: OES2 and Novell DNS In-Reply-To: <68b791330807081216r5c3d71c6ufef09bc8a1fb077c@mail.gmail.com> References: <01MWWQ4VRT6Q8YAGUV@cc.usu.edu> <68b791330807080910n2e9d338anc7b48ccf94551499@mail.gmail.com> <48736F32.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> <68b791330807081216r5c3d71c6ufef09bc8a1fb077c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <487391B3.E4C1.0068.0@oconee.k12.ga.us> >>> On 7/8/2008 at 3:16 PM, in message <68b791330807081216r5c3d71c6ufef09bc8a1fb077c at mail.gmail.com>, "Peter Van Lone" wrote: > I'm not sure there are more than a handful of people fully deploying > OES2 linux -- are there? You are a frontiersman, I think .... > > Peter > > On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:44 PM, Scott Etienne wrote: >> The documentation supports edirectory-based DNS and DHCP on OES2. >> >> Has anyone have it running? Is it solid? >> >> Thank you, We're not running it yet, but it is on the short list of things to test this year. We have two OES 2 servers in production, soon to be about a dozen by the end of the year. So far we really like our OES 2. -Matt -- Matt Smith Network Technology Specialist Oconee County School System, Oconee County, Georgia Office of Instruction and Technology 706-769-5685 From JRD at cc.usu.edu Tue Jul 8 22:25:11 2008 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:25:11 -0600 (MDT) Subject: OT? SLES partitioning on VMWare Message-ID: <01MWX0R4WPJM8YAHW2@cc.usu.edu> > >Joe -- > >I'm simply asking for what you (or others) would choose as a >partitioning scheme given a 15GB virtual drive to carve up for a web >server. > >Other than "testing and lab work", what would YOU do, Joe -- are you >suggesting that you would accept the partitioning scheme offered by >the installation program (with the modifcation of making /swap >smaller)? > >Peter --------- Peter, A hard working test machine: # df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sda3 33543360 7444032 26099328 23% / udev 2024480 232 2024248 1% /dev /dev/sda1 38856 12634 24216 35% /boot /dev/sda4 210228308 130994784 79233524 63% /home/extra A production machine (lines wrapped below): $ df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sdb3 25161536 10793084 14368452 43% / udev 2538584 188 2538396 1% /dev /dev/sdb2 69995 12157 54224 19% /boot /dev/sdb4 45883316 24491312 21392004 54% /home/extra /dev/evms/USERPOOL 357942272 290345476 67596796 82% /opt/novell/nss/mnt/.pools/USERPOOL /dev/evms/SYS1POOL 32766976 16096140 16670836 50% /opt/novell/nss/mnt/.pools/SYS1POOL admin 4096 0 4096 0% /_admin SYS1 32766976 15980732 16670836 49% /home/sys1 USER 357942272 289285348 67596796 82% /home/user $ /boot is EXT2 (present to bypass GRUB problems with XFS) Other POSIX file systems are XFS Production has NSS volumes as well Note my very large /home/extra to hold the bulky items (.isos etc) which ordinary users do not see. Ordinary users see the NSS material. The production box happens to be netlab1, that running this list and others, Apache, plus much more. Both machines are full OES2. I often need a very large amount of space in /tmp for sundry activities, so / is kept fair sized. Swap is 256/512MB, respectively. To answer your 16GB question: 512MB swap, just to be generous 32MB for /boot, EXT2, can be 64MB with no harm rest to /, EXT3 or XFS (my first choice) Extra space comes from other drives, as needs arise Joe D. From fubarsnafu69 at gmail.com Thu Jul 10 21:17:57 2008 From: fubarsnafu69 at gmail.com (fred james) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:17:57 -0400 Subject: Zenworks v6.5 + Adobe Photoshop CS3 Message-ID: <32a559c50807101317i18213676i668886e0cb669585@mail.gmail.com> I use the following command in a Zen App to install Photoshop CS3 - it is the run command for object "P:\Zenapps\PhotoShopCS3-EXE-XP\Setup.exe" --mode=silent --deploymentFile="P:\Zenapps\PhotoShopCS3-EXE-XP\Deployment.xml" I have the override file created and in correct place - after install it;s gone from the NAL Window Then I have another Zen App that points to the Photoshop.exe file that should just run it. But for some strange reason it start the install again, then from here after it will run the program. Only does the install once. The works fine Any ideas Fred From fubarsnafu69 at gmail.com Sat Jul 12 04:30:47 2008 From: fubarsnafu69 at gmail.com (fred james) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 23:30:47 -0400 Subject: Zenworks + Adobe Contribute CS3 Message-ID: <32a559c50807112030o1881d492rd1fab6bd5b70476f@mail.gmail.com> Once Contribute is installed from Zen App Object - on 1st use it prompts you if you want to install Firefox Plugin - Has anybody figure out how to turn this off so users will not see it. Fred From Mark.Robinson at nds8.co.uk Mon Jul 14 11:13:52 2008 From: Mark.Robinson at nds8.co.uk (Mark Robinson) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:13:52 +0100 Subject: OES2 and Novell DNS Message-ID: <487B34F0020000AD0000949B@mail2.nds8.com> I have set up both, including in a cluster environment. Having been doing DNS/DHCP as standalone linux services for so long, I am having a little trouble adjusting to the eDir integration and iManager plugins, but once it's set up it seem to run fine. One thing to watch is: if you use a user other than admin for the user to bind as (which is best practice for whe you want to change the admin password) then the CASA credentials don't seem to get set up correctly. There is a guide to fixing this in the troubleshooting section of the online docs. HTH Mark ---------------------------- Mark Robinson Novell Support Forum SysOp NDS8 Novell Platinum Solution Provider Mobile: +44 (0) 7900 570 400 Office: +44 (0) 131 538 8202 Fax: +44 (0) 131 453 6522 www.nds8.co.uk >>> "Scott Etienne" 07/08/08 7:45 PM >>> The documentation supports edirectory-based DNS and DHCP on OES2. Has anyone have it running? Is it solid? Thank you, Scott Etienne Network Engineer Enesco, LLC setienne at enesco.com _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell --- Scanned by M+ Guardian Messaging Firewall --- The information contained in this email is intended for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. You should not copy, retain, forward or disclose its contents to anyone else, or take any action based upon it, if it is not addressed to you personally. If the message is received by anyone other than the addressee, please notify the sender and delete the message. NDS8 does not accept responsibility for changes made to this message after it was sent. Whilst all reasonable care has been taken to avoid the transmission of viruses, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that the onward transmission, opening or use of this message and any attachments will not adversely affect its systems or data. From jetadmin at gmail.com Mon Jul 14 15:50:08 2008 From: jetadmin at gmail.com (Eric Rothweiler) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:50:08 -0400 Subject: OT? SLES partitioning on VMWare In-Reply-To: <68b791330807080848w3ceaefbco26949003040eeda6@mail.gmail.com> References: <68b791330807080848w3ceaefbco26949003040eeda6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1d6cdac70807140750l19dbb381qf84d04be8d27ed6c@mail.gmail.com> I take the approach "Lets protect my box from a possible flaw in the application" From that view I partiion off /var & /tmp everytime. If you've administered 'nix long enough you've see an app fill the file system in one of these directories. If you've ever had / filled and had to recover you know how painful that can be. Not so bad if it's just /var or /tmp. /boot - If you're using a volume manager you will have to partition this off. In doing so think about what it is used for. Extra/updated kernels. On occasion you may need to play with the kernel to fix a bug or support new functions. When 'playing' with the kernel it is a great idea to keep the old one in case the new one blows chunks. 50 - 100MB should be enough for even the most adventerous admin however, in the grand scheme of things don't go short, what's 200 or even 300MB on a 15GB disk? (ar larger on most newer systems) Look where your app is installing, if it goes into /opt (most common) you may want to partition that off in case the app goes rogue. Last, /home Does the app create or need data in a home directory? Same as before, you may want to protect the system from a misbehaving app and partition this off as well. /dev /proc /etc /lib /bin /sbin all must be part of / so these cannot be partitioned off no matter how madly you may wish to dice out the filesystem :-) On 7/8/08, Peter Van Lone wrote: > > Just wondering what others do as a standard, when creating a SLES > install on VMWare. > > I need to create a "pure" SLES (ie no OES stuff) install for a web > server w/php and unixodbc and mysql > > I figured 15GB would be fine for the disk. However, with that small > disk size, does it make sense to have seperate /, /root, /boot, > /swap, /var and /home partitions? > > The installer suggests only a 1.4GB swap and the remaining as / > > Opinions? > > Peter > > -- > "There is a grandeur in this view of life, a life in which endless > forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being, > evolved." > > Charles Darwin > The Origin of Species > > > http://xkcd.com/167/ > > www.the-brights.net > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > From joea at j4computers.com Mon Jul 14 15:58:15 2008 From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:58:15 -0400 Subject: OT - awk/gawk Message-ID: <487B3147020000850005E44C@FS-LIN-OES> Playing with awk/gawk. Attempting to create a command file, not getting expected results. From some testing, seems it is not reading at all, my data file. My current understanding is that one can say, for example, at a command prompt: awk -f comfile datafile and that is should read comfile for commands and act upon data file. Is my understanding faulty? joe a. From joea at j4computers.com Mon Jul 14 16:20:37 2008 From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:20:37 -0400 Subject: OT - awk/gawk Message-ID: <487B3685020000850005E450@FS-LIN-OES> After more digging, and some amount of luck, seems one must state "getline" after the BEGIN statement. Results seem more like what I expect, now. joe a. >>> "joea at j4computers.com" 07/14/08 11:00 AM >>> Playing with awk/gawk. Attempting to create a command file, not getting expected results. From some testing, seems it is not reading at all, my data file. My current understanding is that one can say, for example, at a command prompt: awk -f comfile datafile and that is should read comfile for commands and act upon data file. Is my understanding faulty? joe a. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From jetadmin at gmail.com Mon Jul 14 19:29:02 2008 From: jetadmin at gmail.com (Eric Rothweiler) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:29:02 -0400 Subject: Anyone running SAV on OES Linux? Message-ID: <1d6cdac70807141129g7cb423d4x64fbedb34f99f8f8@mail.gmail.com> I am completing the standard OES2 build design for my customer and they use SAV for anti virus. The current patch set for SLES uses a kernel not supported by SAV which causes AutoProtect to shutdown however, RTVScan stays running. I have been having fits trying to find out if RTVScan can do any protection without AutoProtect and/or exactly what each provides. Since this is particular to Linux (and Symantecs slow support of it, the current kernel version is over a year old and Symantec still doesn't support it) has anyone else been able to figure out what services are provided while running an 'unsupported' kernel? TIA Eric From joea at j4computers.com Tue Jul 15 16:54:11 2008 From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:54:11 -0400 Subject: linux swap Message-ID: <487C8FE3020000850005E45E@FS-LIN-OES> I see several OES1 linux boxes whose "swap" is at various levels, greater than zero. Some nearly maxed out at 1 GB. This via "free" at the console. An associate says this is no cause for concern as it is not really swapping to disk, but has only "pre-allocated" the swap space, based on what it "expects" to use. This leaves me confused. joe a. From TJohnson at lancaster.wnyric.org Tue Jul 15 17:16:08 2008 From: TJohnson at lancaster.wnyric.org (TJohnson at lancaster.wnyric.org) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:16:08 -0400 Subject: linux swap In-Reply-To: <487C8FE3020000850005E45E@FS-LIN-OES> Message-ID: I would use top at the console and look at swap line and specifically the used field, should give you an idea of swap utilization. "joea at j4computers.com" Sent by: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk 07/15/2008 11:54 AM Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group To cc Subject linux swap I see several OES1 linux boxes whose "swap" is at various levels, greater than zero. Some nearly maxed out at 1 GB. This via "free" at the console. An associate says this is no cause for concern as it is not really swapping to disk, but has only "pre-allocated" the swap space, based on what it "expects" to use. This leaves me confused. joe a. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell -- BEGIN-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS ------------------------------------------------------ Teach CanIt if this mail (ID 135281869) is spam: Spam: http://milton1.wnyric.org/canit/b.php?i=135281869&m=b5b8cde45281&c=s Not spam: http://milton1.wnyric.org/canit/b.php?i=135281869&m=b5b8cde45281&c=n Forget vote: http://milton1.wnyric.org/canit/b.php?i=135281869&m=b5b8cde45281&c=f ------------------------------------------------------ END-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS From JRD at cc.usu.edu Tue Jul 15 18:53:20 2008 From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:53:20 -0600 (MDT) Subject: linux swap Message-ID: <01MX6MDGCUWM8YAQVD@cc.usu.edu> > >I see several OES1 linux boxes whose "swap" is at various levels, greater than zero. Some nearly maxed out at 1 GB. > >This via "free" at the console. > >An associate says this is no cause for concern as it is not really swapping to disk, but has only "pre-allocated" the swap space, based on what it "expects" to use. This leaves me confused. > >joe a. ----------- Swap usage is not "preallocated" in this epoch, though it used to be about 30 years ago. When usage is heavy then the message is clear: your server needs more physical memory, or fewer apps, or both. Joe D. From joea at j4computers.com Tue Jul 15 19:58:30 2008 From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:58:30 -0400 Subject: linux swap Message-ID: <487CBB16020000850005E462@FS-LIN-OES> > Swap usage is not "preallocated" in this epoch, though it used to be >about 30 years ago. When usage is heavy then the message is clear: your >server needs more physical memory, or fewer apps, or both. > Joe D. We are beyond my current linux comfort level How can I rebut the apparent misconception regarding pre-allocation? I would need to show some actual disk activity, to and from swap. "vmstat"? Other tools? It is maintained that what "free" shows is not "real" swap usage. joe a. From James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Tue Jul 15 20:10:26 2008 From: James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com (James Taylor) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:10:26 -0400 Subject: linux swap In-Reply-To: <487CBD08.9252.0075.1@eastcobbgroup.com> References: <487CBD08.9252.0075.1@eastcobbgroup.com> Message-ID: <487CBDE20200007500031534@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> If the memory is listed in the " free"column, it isn't used. If it's listed in the "used" column, I would say you need more RAM. If you have any servers running OES1, you should upgrade them immediately, don not pass go, do not collect $200. Up until the very recent release of OES SBE, you were kind of screwed if you wanted to get off of OES1, but NOWS-SBE-2 is available, so save yourself a lot of grief and upgrade. -jt James Taylor The East Cobb Group, Inc. 678-697-9420 james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com http://www.eastcobbgroup.com >>> "joea at j4computers.com" 7/15/2008 02:58 PM >>> > Swap usage is not "preallocated" in this epoch, though it used to be >about 30 years ago. When usage is heavy then the message is clear: your >server needs more physical memory, or fewer apps, or both. > Joe D. We are beyond my current linux comfort level How can I rebut the apparent misconception regarding pre-allocation? I would need to show some actual disk activity, to and from swap. "vmstat"? Other tools? It is maintained that what "free" shows is not "real" swap usage. joe a. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From joea at j4computers.com Tue Jul 15 20:46:07 2008 From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:46:07 -0400 Subject: OES path, was linux swap Message-ID: <487CC63F020000850005E466@FS-LIN-OES> >>>> "James Taylor" 07/15/08 3:12 PM >>> >If the memory is listed in the " free"column, it isn't used. >If it's listed in the "used" column, I would say you need more RAM. > >If you have any servers running OES1, you should upgrade them immediately, don not pass go, do not collect $200. > >Up until the very recent release of OES SBE, you were kind of screwed if you wanted to get off of OES1, but NOWS-SBE-2 is >available, so save yourself a lot of grief and upgrade. > >-jt All are OES1 Clustered, GroupWise. Any specific benefits? LUM improvements, perhaps? joe a. From James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Tue Jul 15 20:56:34 2008 From: James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com (James Taylor) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:56:34 -0400 Subject: OES path, was linux swap In-Reply-To: <487CC842.9252.0075.1@eastcobbgroup.com> References: <487CC842.9252.0075.1@eastcobbgroup.com> Message-ID: <487CC8B20200007500031560@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> Pretty much better everything. Plus it is uses the current version of SLES. SLES9 has not been current for over two years, and some of the new versions of Novell apps won't be supported on SLES9, i.e. Bonsai. -jt James Taylor The East Cobb Group, Inc. 678-697-9420 james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com http://www.eastcobbgroup.com >>> "joea at j4computers.com" 7/15/2008 03:46 PM >>> >>>> "James Taylor" 07/15/08 3:12 PM >>> >If the memory is listed in the " free"column, it isn't used. >If it's listed in the "used" column, I would say you need more RAM. > >If you have any servers running OES1, you should upgrade them immediately, don not pass go, do not collect $200. > >Up until the very recent release of OES SBE, you were kind of screwed if you wanted to get off of OES1, but NOWS-SBE-2 is >available, so save yourself a lot of grief and upgrade. > >-jt All are OES1 Clustered, GroupWise. Any specific benefits? LUM improvements, perhaps? joe a. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From joea at j4computers.com Tue Jul 15 21:21:20 2008 From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:21:20 -0400 Subject: OES path, was linux swap Message-ID: <487CCE80020000850005E46A@FS-LIN-OES> >>>> "James Taylor" 07/15/08 3:59 PM >>> >Pretty much better everything. >Plus it is uses the current version of SLES. >SLES9 has not been current for over two years, and some of the new versions of Novell apps won't be supported on SLES9, >i.e. Bonsai. >-jt Too bad SBE does not include clustering, apparently. Otherwise it look strong. Were you saying moving from OES1 to OES2, none SBE, is not feasible? joe a. From alandpearson at yahoo.com Tue Jul 15 22:01:29 2008 From: alandpearson at yahoo.com (Alan Pearson) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:01:29 +0100 Subject: linux swap In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <19EC68F2-871E-4ACE-A2DC-F9255FFD53DB@yahoo.com> Your associate is wrong. If you want a box that performs well, it shouldn't swap. This means it's out of memory. If Swap stays at a steady level (read - not maxed out) this may be fine, but it does indicate memory hunger. Note, this is NOT the same as free memory. Linux uses all the memory it can get it's hands on and lets very little remain free. It uses the 'free' memory as a disk cache, releasing it as and when. Thus to get an idea of memory usage of a box, you need to look at free memory and the cached figure from top to that. Some handy commands : top - (while displaying shift-m displays processes sorted by memory usage) free - system memory breakdown swapon -s - displays swap status. HTH --- AlanP On 15 Jul 2008, at 17:16, TJohnson at lancaster.wnyric.org wrote: > I would use top at the console and look at swap line and > specifically the > used field, should give you an idea of swap utilization. > > > > "joea at j4computers.com" > Sent by: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > 07/15/2008 11:54 AM > Please respond to > Novell LAN Interest Group > > > To > > cc > > Subject > linux swap > > > > > > > I see several OES1 linux boxes whose "swap" is at various levels, > greater > than zero. Some nearly maxed out at 1 GB. > > This via "free" at the console. > > An associate says this is no cause for concern as it is not really > swapping to disk, but has only "pre-allocated" the swap space, based > on > what it "expects" to use. This leaves me confused. > > joe a. > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > -- > BEGIN-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS > ------------------------------------------------------ > > Teach CanIt if this mail (ID 135281869) is spam: > Spam: > http://milton1.wnyric.org/canit/b.php?i=135281869&m=b5b8cde45281&c=s > Not spam: > http://milton1.wnyric.org/canit/b.php?i=135281869&m=b5b8cde45281&c=n > Forget vote: > http://milton1.wnyric.org/canit/b.php?i=135281869&m=b5b8cde45281&c=f > ------------------------------------------------------ > END-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Tue Jul 15 22:16:26 2008 From: James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com (James Taylor) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:16:26 -0400 Subject: OES path, was linux swap In-Reply-To: <487CDACA.9252.0075.1@eastcobbgroup.com> References: <487CDACA.9252.0075.1@eastcobbgroup.com> Message-ID: <487CDB6A020000750002E3A8@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> SBE2 should have a two-node cluster license as it includes OES2. I'll have to look into that. In any case, if you have OES1 under maintenance, then there is no licensing or platform issue with upgrading. While you can upgrade OES1 to OES2, I would go with clean re-installs, were it me doing it. Clustering would tend to be plus for that method, in my opinion anyway. -jt James Taylor The East Cobb Group, Inc. 678-697-9420 james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com http://www.eastcobbgroup.com >>> "joea at j4computers.com" 7/15/2008 04:21 PM >>> >>>> "James Taylor" 07/15/08 3:59 PM >>> >Pretty much better everything. >Plus it is uses the current version of SLES. >SLES9 has not been current for over two years, and some of the new versions of Novell apps won't be supported on SLES9, >i.e. Bonsai. >-jt Too bad SBE does not include clustering, apparently. Otherwise it look strong. Were you saying moving from OES1 to OES2, none SBE, is not feasible? joe a. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From cirvis at konts.lv Wed Jul 16 07:50:15 2008 From: cirvis at konts.lv (Cirvis) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:50:15 +0300 Subject: linux swap In-Reply-To: <01MX6MDGCUWM8YAQVD@cc.usu.edu> References: <01MX6MDGCUWM8YAQVD@cc.usu.edu> Message-ID: <487D9A27.2070504@konts.lv> In fact - it depends on UNIX flavor. Linux and SUN Solaris does not use pre-allocated swap. HP-UX and IBM AIX does. And HP even has special virtual (memory) swap setting to deal with this. Gasha Joe Doupnik wrote: >> I see several OES1 linux boxes whose "swap" is at various levels, greater than zero. Some nearly maxed out at 1 GB. >> >> This via "free" at the console. >> >> An associate says this is no cause for concern as it is not really swapping to disk, but has only "pre-allocated" the swap space, based on what it "expects" to use. This leaves me confused. >> >> joe a. >> > ----------- > Swap usage is not "preallocated" in this epoch, though it used to be > about 30 years ago. When usage is heavy then the message is clear: your > server needs more physical memory, or fewer apps, or both. > Joe D. > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > From guy at crossflight.co.uk Wed Jul 16 13:34:58 2008 From: guy at crossflight.co.uk (Guy Dawson) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:34:58 +0100 Subject: linux swap In-Reply-To: <19EC68F2-871E-4ACE-A2DC-F9255FFD53DB@yahoo.com> References: <19EC68F2-871E-4ACE-A2DC-F9255FFD53DB@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <487DEAF2.1090608@crossflight.co.uk> Alan Pearson wrote: > Some handy commands : > > top - (while displaying shift-m displays processes sorted by memory > usage) > free - system memory breakdown > swapon -s - displays swap status. I'd also add vmstat to the list. Looking at our test OES2/Linux box which has 2GB RAM and is doing a little file/print serving and running Pervasive SQL the swap information from top is Mem: 2075640k total, 2014808k used, 60832k free, 63240k buffers Swap: 10490436k total, 136k used, 10490300k free, 293480k cached We have lots of swap and are using virtually none of it. The command vmstat 1 will display some virtual memory stats every second. The two interesting columns are 'si' and 'so' which tell you how much memory is being swapped in (from disk) and out (to disk). These figures should be low. In fact, on out test system I've only ever seen them be zero! Guy -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Guy Dawson I.T. 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I have a new dell Precision T3400 which gives an error on pxe boot or the boot cd. Says no network device located. Has a broadcom 5700 nic Dave Moon Peru Community Schools From moon.dave at comcast.net Wed Jul 16 15:46:24 2008 From: moon.dave at comcast.net (moon.dave at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:46:24 +0000 Subject: Zenworks question Message-ID: <071620081446.4288.487E09C0000ABCFA000010C022070215730A900E0BD202010103@comcast.net> I have applied all current updates to zenworks 7 sp1. I have a new dell Precision T3400 which gives an error on pxe boot or the boot cd. Says no network device located. Has a broadcom 5700 nic Dave Moon Peru Community Schools From bjonkman at sobac.com Thu Jul 17 07:27:24 2008 From: bjonkman at sobac.com (Bob Jonkman) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 02:27:24 -0400 Subject: OT - awk/gawk In-Reply-To: <487B3685020000850005E450@FS-LIN-OES> References: <487B3685020000850005E450@FS-LIN-OES> Message-ID: <487EAE0C.23719.41D2743@bjonkman.sobac.com> Shouldn't be necessary to use 'getline' except in rare circumstances. The BEGIN block is executed before any lines are read from the input file, the END block is executed after all lines are read, and any blocks in between are executed when the regex matches a line (and are executed repeatedly, once for each line in the file that matches). Contact me offline if you need specific help. --Bob. On 14 Jul 2008 at 11:20, joea at j4computers.com wrote: > After more digging, and some amount of luck, seems one must state > "getline" after the BEGIN statement. Results seem more like what I > expect, now. > > joe a. > > >>> "joea at j4computers.com" 07/14/08 11:00 AM > >>> >>> > Playing with awk/gawk. > > Attempting to create a command file, not getting expected results. > From some testing, seems it is not reading at all, my data file. > > My current understanding is that one can say, for example, at a > command prompt: > > awk -f comfile datafile > > and that is should read comfile for commands and act upon data file. > > Is my understanding faulty? > > joe a. > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell -- -- -- -- Bob Jonkman http://sobac.com/sobac/ SOBAC Microcomputer Services Voice: +1-519-669-0388 6 James Street, Elmira ON Canada N3B 1L5 Cel: +1-519-635-9413 Software --- Office & Business Automation --- Consulting From lists at shuters.net Thu Jul 17 19:51:39 2008 From: lists at shuters.net (Matthew Shuter) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:51:39 -0400 Subject: Zenworks question In-Reply-To: <071620081446.4288.487E09C0000ABCFA000010C022070215730A900E0BD202010103@comcast.net> References: <071620081446.4288.487E09C0000ABCFA000010C022070215730A900E0BD202010103@comcast.net> Message-ID: <487F94BB.7040808@shuters.net> i think the latest hot patch is 3ira, ZDM7SP1_IR3a.zip looks like this fixed it for someone else: http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/zenworks/desktop-management/zw-desktop-management-7x/zdm7-imaging-netware-windows-servers/332291-dell-precision-t3400.html moon.dave at comcast.net wrote: > I have applied all current updates to zenworks 7 sp1. I have a new dell Precision T3400 which gives an error on pxe boot or the boot cd. Says no network device located. > > Has a broadcom 5700 nic > > Dave Moon > Peru Community Schools > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > __________________________________________________ D O T E A S Y - "Join the web hosting revolution!" http://www.doteasy.com From joea at j4computers.com Thu Jul 17 20:11:57 2008 From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:11:57 -0400 Subject: OT - awk/gawk Message-ID: <487F6141020000850005E486@FS-LIN-OES> >>>> "Bob Jonkman" 07/17/08 2:29 AM >>> >Shouldn't be necessary to use 'getline' except in rare >circumstances. The BEGIN block is executed before any lines are >read from the input file, the END block is executed after all lines >are read, and any blocks in between are executed when the regex >matches a line (and are executed repeatedly, once for each line in >the file that matches). > >Contact me offline if you need specific help. > >--Bob. And in this case, it was not. Turns out, I had not formatted (terminated) the BEGIN block correctly and had some of the other lines "running in there". Once that was corrected, it began reading line after line, as advertised and expected. While I still find getting a handle on new things strangely satisfying, it is not necessarily less frustrating. Bootstrapping. OJT. Yep, that's the ticket. joe a. From joea at j4computers.com Fri Jul 18 15:01:48 2008 From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:01:48 -0400 Subject: Cluster services heartbeat, as seen on the wire Message-ID: <48806A0C020000850005E496@FS-LIN-OES> Chasing another problem, did a tcpdump to read with wireshark Noticed a number of packets identified as protocol NCS, Novell Cluster Serices Heartbeart. The majority of them were sent to "broadcast". Since NCS is explicity configured, cannot see what that should be so. Very few seemed explictly between cluster members. Which is what I woudl expect all to be. joe a. From bbrush at gmail.com Fri Jul 18 16:19:01 2008 From: bbrush at gmail.com (Bill Brush) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:19:01 -0500 Subject: Cluster services heartbeat, as seen on the wire In-Reply-To: <48806A0C020000850005E496@FS-LIN-OES> References: <48806A0C020000850005E496@FS-LIN-OES> Message-ID: <167f4090807180819m2cd6a72mbeb38f809f3acc29@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 9:01 AM, joea at j4computers.com wrote: > Chasing another problem, did a tcpdump to read with wireshark > > Noticed a number of packets identified as protocol NCS, Novell Cluster Serices Heartbeart. > > The majority of them were sent to "broadcast". Since NCS is explicity configured, cannot see what that should be so. > > Very few seemed explictly between cluster members. Which is what I woudl expect all to be. > IIRC the master node broadcasts its heartbeat so that all secondary nodes receive it. The secondary nodes do a unicast back. Again this is if my memory is serving, which it might not be. It's been years since I looked at how that worked. Bill From joea at j4computers.com Fri Jul 18 16:25:33 2008 From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:25:33 -0400 Subject: Cluster services heartbeat, as seen on the wire Message-ID: <48807DAD020000850005E49A@FS-LIN-OES> >>>> "Bill Brush" 07/18/08 11:20 AM >>> >On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 9:01 AM, joea at j4computers.com > wrote: >> Chasing another problem, did a tcpdump to read with wireshark >> >> Noticed a number of packets identified as protocol NCS, Novell Cluster Serices Heartbeart. >> >> The majority of them were sent to "broadcast". Since NCS is explicity configured, cannot see what that should be so. >> > >Very few seemed explictly between cluster members. Which is what I woudl expect all to be. >> > >IIRC the master node broadcasts its heartbeat so that all secondary >nodes receive it. The secondary nodes do a unicast back. Again this >is if my memory is serving, which it might not be. It's been years >since I looked at how that worked. > >Bill The docs appear to say the master node will "multi cast" to "all nodes in the cluster". But these are broadcasts. I suppose it is normal behavior. joe a. From Setienne at enesco.com Mon Jul 21 17:49:03 2008 From: Setienne at enesco.com (Scott Etienne) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:49:03 -0500 Subject: OT: DNS config help SLES 10 In-Reply-To: <487C8FE3020000850005E45E@FS-LIN-OES> References: <487C8FE3020000850005E45E@FS-LIN-OES> Message-ID: <488477AE.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> I am trying to configure a DNS server reverse lookup for our new public network. Let's say the network is 172.16.1.32, 255.255.255.224. On RH9, the reverse zone file is named 32-27.1.16.172.in-addr.arpa.rev, and SLES just 32-27.1.16.172.in-addr.arpa. Also, in RH9, PTR records are like this: 35.32-27.1.16.172.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR gwia.enesco.com. When I try this, none of my reverse records resolve using dig @localhost -x 172.16.1.35, where in RH9, it returns the DNS name. What am I missing here? Hints? From Setienne at enesco.com Mon Jul 21 19:21:02 2008 From: Setienne at enesco.com (Scott Etienne) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:21:02 -0500 Subject: OT: DNS config help SLES 10 In-Reply-To: <488477AE.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> References: <487C8FE3020000850005E45E@FS-LIN-OES> <488477AE.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> Message-ID: <48848D3D.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> I wiped the configuration, and recreated it with no sub-netting of the last octet, as if we own the whole subnet, and it worked. Sloppy--but being we don't own the other subnets, and won't be responsible for them, I guess it comes under the heading of who cares. Thank you, Scott Etienne Network Engineer Enesco, LLC voice: 630.875.5611 mobile: 847-269-3143 fax: 630-875-5335 setienne at enesco.com >>> "Scott Etienne" 7/21/2008 11:49 AM >>> I am trying to configure a DNS server reverse lookup for our new public network. Let's say the network is 172.16.1.32, 255.255.255.224. On RH9, the reverse zone file is named 32-27.1.16.172.in-addr.arpa.rev, and SLES just 32-27.1.16.172.in-addr.arpa. Also, in RH9, PTR records are like this: 35.32-27.1.16.172.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR gwia.enesco.com. When I try this, none of my reverse records resolve using dig @localhost -x 172.16.1.35, where in RH9, it returns the DNS name. What am I missing here? Hints? _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From mrsmith at oconee.k12.ga.us Tue Jul 22 13:31:58 2008 From: mrsmith at oconee.k12.ga.us (Matt Smith) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:31:58 -0400 Subject: NSS/EVMS fun with OES 2 Message-ID: <488598D9.E4C1.0068.0@oconee.k12.ga.us> I have a new server that just dismounts its NSS volume once every other day or so. This is an OES 2 (Linux) server. The / partition is unaffected. I did find error messages in the emvs-engine.log file, but haven't been able to find anything useful yet. The hardware is a new Intel Modular server. It's sort of a poor man's blade server. The storage is virtualised (abstracted?) from the server module itself. However, the NSS volume's partition is striped across the same seven disks that the root partition is. So far the management interface doesn't give me much in the way of granular control, but I'm still digging. NTS suggested that it could be some sort of time-out issue between the storage controller and the NSS/evms sub-system. The server itself has all the latest and greatest firmware. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. -Matt -- Matt Smith Network Technology Specialist Oconee County School System, Oconee County, Georgia Office of Instruction and Technology 706-769-5685 From joea at j4computers.com Tue Jul 22 14:50:29 2008 From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:50:29 -0400 Subject: edir8.7.3-sp10b fun. On Linux Message-ID: <4885AD65020000850005E4BB@FS-LIN-OES> Trying to install edir8.7.3-sp10b on Linux. Using the Novell supplied install.sh both with and without the --force (or -f) option. I was having an issue with NDSbase not updating. Traced this to there being two NDSbase rpm's installed. (according to rpm -qa |grep NDSbase). Did an rpm -e on the version that install.sh --showinstalled says was not installed. It erased happily and a subsequent install.sh -f installed the latest version on NDSbase. My overwhelming sense of joy and accomplishment was, sadly, short lived. NLDAPbase and NLDAPsdk showed lower version numbers (install --showinstalled) than I knew were current. After all, the "security" issue with LDAP is why, no? So, another round of rpm grep-ing showed the same issue, more than one package installed. However and rpm -e was less than satisfactory, telling me of a dependecy related to LUM. I decided it would be prudent to look into this further. Sequence of my efforts, below. **************** myserver:~/tarballs/edir87310 # rpm -qa |grep NLDAP NLDAPbase-8.7.3.10-56 NLDAPbase-8.7.3-34 NLDAPsdk-8.7.3.10-53 NLDAPsdk-8.7.3-34 myserver:~/tarballs/edir87310 # rpm -e NLDAPbase-8.7.3.10-56 error: Failed dependencies: libldapssl.so.0(LDAPSSL_VERSION_1.0) is needed by (installed) novell-lum-2.2.0.14-3 myserver:~/tarballs/edir87310 # **************** Where should I go with this? I am not confident that install.sh is bug free. Some here suspect that the script includes explicit version numbers where it should only include package names. I an hesitant to force off the higher rev'd item, as there is a disagreement, apparently, between what install.sh says and what rpm says. joe a. From Mark.Robinson at nds8.co.uk Tue Jul 22 14:51:22 2008 From: Mark.Robinson at nds8.co.uk (Mark Robinson) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:51:22 +0100 Subject: OT: DNS config help SLES 10 Message-ID: <4885F3EA020000AD00009588@mail2.nds8.com> What you would need is alias entries in the master copy of the zone for the class c pointing at your classless zone... This explains it quite well http://www.csh.rit.edu/~jon/text/papers/classless/ And, yes, dirty rotten hack does come to mind :-) M ---------------------------- Mark Robinson Novell Support Forum SysOp NDS8 Novell Platinum Solution Provider Mobile: +44 (0) 7900 570 400 Office: +44 (0) 131 538 8202 Fax: +44 (0) 131 453 6522 www.nds8.co.uk >>> "Scott Etienne" 07/21/08 7:22 PM >>> I wiped the configuration, and recreated it with no sub-netting of the last octet, as if we own the whole subnet, and it worked. Sloppy--but being we don't own the other subnets, and won't be responsible for them, I guess it comes under the heading of who cares. Thank you, Scott Etienne Network Engineer Enesco, LLC voice: 630.875.5611 mobile: 847-269-3143 fax: 630-875-5335 setienne at enesco.com >>> "Scott Etienne" 7/21/2008 11:49 AM >>> I am trying to configure a DNS server reverse lookup for our new public network. Let's say the network is 172.16.1.32, 255.255.255.224. On RH9, the reverse zone file is named 32-27.1.16.172.in-addr.arpa.rev, and SLES just 32-27.1.16.172.in-addr.arpa. Also, in RH9, PTR records are like this: 35.32-27.1.16.172.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR gwia.enesco.com. When I try this, none of my reverse records resolve using dig @localhost -x 172.16.1.35, where in RH9, it returns the DNS name. What am I missing here? 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Whilst all reasonable care has been taken to avoid the transmission of viruses, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that the onward transmission, opening or use of this message and any attachments will not adversely affect its systems or data. From joea at j4computers.com Tue Jul 22 15:04:06 2008 From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:04:06 -0400 Subject: what version is "installed" - OES linux Message-ID: <4885B096020000850005E4BF@FS-LIN-OES> How can I determine what version of a program, or package, is actually installed/running on linux? From andrew.foulsham at imm.ox.ac.uk Tue Jul 22 15:11:29 2008 From: andrew.foulsham at imm.ox.ac.uk (Andrew Foulsham) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:11:29 +0100 Subject: what version is "installed" - OES linux In-Reply-To: <4885B096020000850005E4BF@FS-LIN-OES> References: <4885B096020000850005E4BF@FS-LIN-OES> Message-ID: <4885F89F.170A.0099.0@gwmail.jr2.ox.ac.uk> >>> "joea at j4computers.com" 22/07/2008 15:04 >>> >How can I determine what version of a program, or package, is actually installed/running on linux? If the program is called "blah", su to root and run this: rpm -qa | grep blah which will return the exact version installed. For instance, I use the joe editor. If I want to find out which exact version I have on a machine, I run: rpm -qa | grep joe which returns: joe-3.3-15.2 Of course, this only works if you have installed the program from a RPM (either directly with rpm -ivh packagename-1.2.3.rpm , or using YAST, Zypper or Smart). If you've compiled it and installed it yourself, that's a whole new issue! I hope that helps, Andrew From joea at j4computers.com Tue Jul 22 16:13:55 2008 From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:13:55 -0400 Subject: what version is "installed" - OES linux Message-ID: <4885C0F4020000850005E4C3@FS-LIN-OES> >>>> "Andrew Foulsham" 07/22/08 10:12 AM >>> >>>> "joea at j4computers.com" 22/07/2008 15:04 >>> >>How can I determine what version of a program, or package, is actually installed/running on linux? > >If the program is called "blah", su to root and run this: >rpm -qa | grep blah >which will return the exact version installed. > >For instance, I use the joe editor. If I want to find out which exact version I have on a machine, I run: >rpm -qa | grep joe >which returns: >joe-3.3-15.2 > >Of course, this only works if you have installed the program from a RPM (either directly with rpm -ivh packagename->1.2.3.rpm , or using YAST, Zypper or Smart). If you've compiled it and installed it yourself, that's a whole new issue! > >I hope that helps, > >Andrew > Thanks, but there's the problem. rpm -qa | grep blah, returns two listings: (example) blah.1.1.1-10 blah.1.1.2-23 This seems difficult to accomplish, rpm being so "smart" and all. Anyway I am trying to determine which one is actually in use. These files are supplied by Novell, as part of edir8.7.3.10b, as is the install script. joe a. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From andrew.foulsham at imm.ox.ac.uk Tue Jul 22 16:56:32 2008 From: andrew.foulsham at imm.ox.ac.uk (Andrew Foulsham) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:56:32 +0100 Subject: what version is "installed" - OES linux In-Reply-To: <4885C0F4020000850005E4C3@FS-LIN-OES> References: <4885C0F4020000850005E4C3@FS-LIN-OES> Message-ID: <4886113E.170A.0099.0@gwmail.jr2.ox.ac.uk> >>> "joea at j4computers.com" 22/07/2008 16:13 >>> >>>> "Andrew Foulsham" 07/22/08 10:12 AM >>> >>>> "joea at j4computers.com" 22/07/2008 15:04 >>> >>How can I determine what version of a program, or package, is actually installed/running on linux? > >If the program is called "blah", su to root and run this: >rpm -qa | grep blah >which will return the exact version installed. > >For instance, I use the joe editor. If I want to find out which exact version I have on a machine, I run: >rpm -qa | grep joe >which returns: >joe-3.3-15.2 > >Of course, this only works if you have installed the program from a RPM (either directly with rpm -ivh packagename->1.2.3.rpm , or using YAST, Zypper or Smart). If you've compiled it and installed it yourself, that's a whole new issue! > >I hope that helps, > >Andrew > Thanks, but there's the problem. rpm -qa | grep blah, returns two listings: (example) blah.1.1.1-10 blah.1.1.2-23 This seems difficult to accomplish, rpm being so "smart" and all. Anyway I am trying to determine which one is actually in use. These files are supplied by Novell, as part of edir8.7.3.10b, as is the install script. That looks to me as if one rpm was "forced" to install, rather than upgraded. I would suggest doing a "which blah" to show which version the OS is using. You can then remove the other with rpm -e . If the documentation for edir8.7.3.10b suggests one particular version, install that (it saves the pain of "dependancy hell". I hope that helps, Andrew From joea at j4computers.com Tue Jul 22 19:20:20 2008 From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:20:20 -0400 Subject: edir8.7.3-sp10b fun. On Linux Message-ID: <4885ECA4020000850005E4C7@FS-LIN-OES> The short story - I'd say install.sh needs some work. Since other efforts to determine what was actually in use met no success, decided to go with what rpm was telling me, and erased the lower numbered items with rpm -e lower_numbered_item. It gave no complaint. Then, with no other changes, running install.sh --showinstalled showed the newer version as installed. Seems install.sh cannot determine the actual installed version properly, when, for one reason or another, two versions of the base package are "installed". install.sh also seemed to say it installed NOVLice (8.7.3.9.2 fwiw), but --showinstalled said "not installed". As did rpm. Did an rpm -U NOVLice.i386.rpm and everyone was happy. joe a. >>> "joea at j4computers.com" 07/22/08 9:54 AM >>> Trying to install edir8.7.3-sp10b on Linux. Using the Novell supplied install.sh both with and without the --force (or -f) option. I was having an issue with NDSbase not updating. Traced this to there being two NDSbase rpm's installed. (according to rpm -qa |grep NDSbase). Did an rpm -e on the version that install.sh --showinstalled says was not installed. It erased happily and a subsequent install.sh -f installed the latest version on NDSbase. My overwhelming sense of joy and accomplishment was, sadly, short lived. NLDAPbase and NLDAPsdk showed lower version numbers (install --showinstalled) than I knew were current. After all, the "security" issue with LDAP is why, no? So, another round of rpm grep-ing showed the same issue, more than one package installed. However and rpm -e was less than satisfactory, telling me of a dependecy related to LUM. I decided it would be prudent to look into this further. Sequence of my efforts, below. **************** myserver:~/tarballs/edir87310 # rpm -qa |grep NLDAP NLDAPbase-8.7.3.10-56 NLDAPbase-8.7.3-34 NLDAPsdk-8.7.3.10-53 NLDAPsdk-8.7.3-34 myserver:~/tarballs/edir87310 # rpm -e NLDAPbase-8.7.3.10-56 error: Failed dependencies: libldapssl.so.0(LDAPSSL_VERSION_1.0) is needed by (installed) novell-lum-2.2.0.14-3 myserver:~/tarballs/edir87310 # **************** Where should I go with this? I am not confident that install.sh is bug free. Some here suspect that the script includes explicit version numbers where it should only include package names. I an hesitant to force off the higher rev'd item, as there is a disagreement, apparently, between what install.sh says and what rpm says. joe a. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From joea at j4computers.com Tue Jul 22 19:51:59 2008 From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:51:59 -0400 Subject: install.sh RANT. Message-ID: <4885F412020000850005E4CB@FS-LIN-OES> OK, enough is enough. This is intolerable. I just ran edir8.7.3.sp10b install.sh on a clean, lower rev'd system. This is part of what it tells me: +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Stage [05]: Verifying versions of installed packages... | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Installed Package Name | Package Version | Result | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | NDSbase | 8.7.3.10.66 [EQUAL VERSION] ==================================== ERROR ==================================== "NDSbase 8.7.3.10.67" is already installed on this system. To reapply this particular package you will need to force the installation to continue past any errors by using the --force switch. ===============================================================================+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Stage [05]: Verifying versions of installed packages... | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Installed Package Name | Package Version | Result | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | NDSbase | 8.7.3.10.66 [EQUAL VERSION] ==================================== ERROR ==================================== "NDSbase 8.7.3.10.67" is already installed on this system. To reapply this particular package you will need to force the installation to continue past any errors by using the --force switch. =============================================================================== yet. YET!, when I do rpm -qa |grep NDSbase, it tells me that .66 (ONLY!) is installed. WHY? Why does Novell torture us in this way? Should not a bloody install script JUST WORK??? joe a. From petervl at gmail.com Tue Jul 22 20:18:08 2008 From: petervl at gmail.com (Peter Van Lone) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:18:08 -0500 Subject: install.sh RANT. In-Reply-To: <4885F412020000850005E4CB@FS-LIN-OES> References: <4885F412020000850005E4CB@FS-LIN-OES> Message-ID: <68b791330807221218pf124531r310cc0762b0e07e8@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 1:51 PM, joea at j4computers.com wrote: > OK, enough is enough. This is intolerable. > WHY? Why does Novell torture us in this way? > > Should not a bloody install script JUST WORK??? yes, it should. And at the risk of angering the list "nice-patrol", I can say that these frustrations are no surprise. Novell is NOT on "battle footing" with anything. They seem to believe that things are fine as they are, just keep plugging away and the new (linux half-way) strategy will work. It won't From joea at j4computers.com Tue Jul 22 21:07:01 2008 From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:07:01 -0400 Subject: install.sh RANT. Message-ID: <488605A5020000850005E4CF@FS-LIN-OES> >>>> "Peter Van Lone" 07/22/08 3:20 PM >>> >On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 1:51 PM, joea at j4computers.com > wrote: >> OK, enough is enough. This is intolerable. > >> WHY? Why does Novell torture us in this way? >> >> Should not a bloody install script JUST WORK??? > >yes, it should. > >And at the risk of angering the list "nice-patrol", I can say that >these frustrations are no surprise. Novell is NOT on "battle footing" >with anything. They seem to believe that things are fine as they are, >just keep plugging away and the new (linux half-way) strategy will >work. I must temper my earlier remarks a bit. It does seem that, in each instance, so far, the servers all have multiple copies of certain packages. The install script does make mention of that fact. However, one is left to one's own devices to figure out what to do. Perhaps these multiple packages are artifacts of earlier updates, or other efforts, don't know. joe a. From petervl at gmail.com Wed Jul 23 03:51:35 2008 From: petervl at gmail.com (Peter Van Lone) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:51:35 -0500 Subject: radius Message-ID: <68b791330807221951t3690ea1bgdd1ea6d1a48c4c39@mail.gmail.com> It seems like this comes up once a year ... unfortunately I'm still the companies "novell guy" (ugh) so every question comes my way. Here is the latest: "Hi Peter- Does Novell have a free/easy to configure RADIUS server that this customer could use?" HAHAHA ... I remember that there was a radius, that came with border manager, and then at some point it was made free but not supported ... and if I remember you had to use nwadmin32 to configure it. Is this the state of things, still? It is so freaking easy to do this with AD, I wish it were easier with edir? P -- "There is a grandeur in this view of life, a life in which endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being, evolved." Charles Darwin The Origin of Species http://xkcd.com/167/ www.the-brights.net From petervl at gmail.com Wed Jul 23 03:59:47 2008 From: petervl at gmail.com (Peter Van Lone) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:59:47 -0500 Subject: radius In-Reply-To: <68b791330807221951t3690ea1bgdd1ea6d1a48c4c39@mail.gmail.com> References: <68b791330807221951t3690ea1bgdd1ea6d1a48c4c39@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <68b791330807221959uec58df0j354b182ad6bb3285@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 9:51 PM, Peter Van Lone wrote: > It seems like this comes up once a year ... unfortunately I'm still > the companies "novell guy" (ugh) so every question comes my way. Here > is the latest: is NMAS free and/or included with Netware? Where does one find the NMAS CD referenced here: http://www.novell.com/documentation/nmas21/index.html?page=/documentation/nmas21/radius/data/hx6efut4.html Also, I found this on the ncsysop site. Is this the current "state of things":: Radius Licensing - Nov. 12, 2004 Unless and until Novell makes a separate download of RADIUS available, the only current version is the NMAS-based RADIUS that comes with BorderManager 3.8. This RADIUS is free, but unsupported by Novell. (There is a lot of good information on it in the Novell Public Forums). This version (NMAS) of RADIUS does not require a licenses, and Novell has given their blessing to people who want to download the BorderManager 3.8 evaluation software, and just use the RADIUS component from it. (Unfortunately, I don't know how to extract just the RADIUS files off the BorderManager 3.8 CD, but you would need both the RADIUS NLM and the ConsoleOne snapins. The NMAS RADIUS must be configured using ConsoleOne - older (BMAS) versions of RADIUS DAS objects will not work.) From James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Jul 23 04:54:26 2008 From: James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com (James Taylor) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:54:26 -0400 Subject: radius In-Reply-To: <488671ED.9252.0075.1@eastcobbgroup.com> References: <488671ED.9252.0075.1@eastcobbgroup.com> Message-ID: <48867332020000750002F063@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> freeradius on SLES works well. It will work using openSUSE if you don't have a SLES license. I have clients using for wpa authentication to eDIr. -jt James Taylor The East Cobb Group, Inc. 678-697-9420 james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com http://www.eastcobbgroup.com >>> "Peter Van Lone" 7/22/2008 10:51 PM >>> It seems like this comes up once a year ... unfortunately I'm still the companies "novell guy" (ugh) so every question comes my way. Here is the latest: "Hi Peter- Does Novell have a free/easy to configure RADIUS server that this customer could use?" HAHAHA ... I remember that there was a radius, that came with border manager, and then at some point it was made free but not supported ... and if I remember you had to use nwadmin32 to configure it. Is this the state of things, still? It is so freaking easy to do this with AD, I wish it were easier with edir? P -- "There is a grandeur in this view of life, a life in which endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being, evolved." Charles Darwin The Origin of Species http://xkcd.com/167/ www.the-brights.net _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From petervl at gmail.com Wed Jul 23 12:22:34 2008 From: petervl at gmail.com (Peter Van Lone) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:22:34 -0500 Subject: radius In-Reply-To: <48867332020000750002F063@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> References: <488671ED.9252.0075.1@eastcobbgroup.com> <48867332020000750002F063@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> Message-ID: <68b791330807230422i510e7828nd778cb601056a50e@mail.gmail.com> so if a customer has all netware/edir for directory, we can just install an opensuse vm with freeradius, and configure it to look to edir, and off we go? You have no experience with the radius on netware options, I guess .... so really there is no simple, easy option it appears ... On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:54 PM, James Taylor wrote: > freeradius on SLES works well. > It will work using openSUSE if you don't have a SLES license. > I have clients using for wpa authentication to eDIr. > -jt > > > James Taylor > The East Cobb Group, Inc. > 678-697-9420 > james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com > http://www.eastcobbgroup.com > > >>>> "Peter Van Lone" 7/22/2008 10:51 PM >>> > It seems like this comes up once a year ... unfortunately I'm still > the companies "novell guy" (ugh) so every question comes my way. Here > is the latest: > > "Hi Peter- > > Does Novell have a free/easy to configure RADIUS server that this > customer could use?" > > HAHAHA ... I remember that there was a radius, that came with border > manager, and then at some point it was made free but not supported ... > and if I remember you had to use nwadmin32 to configure it. > > Is this the state of things, still? It is so freaking easy to do this > with AD, I wish it were easier with edir? > > P > > > > > -- > "There is a grandeur in this view of life, a life in which endless > forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being, > evolved." > > Charles Darwin > The Origin of Species > > > http://xkcd.com/167/ > > www.the-brights.net > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > -- "There is a grandeur in this view of life, a life in which endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being, evolved." Charles Darwin The Origin of Species http://xkcd.com/167/ www.the-brights.net From HPfeil at uca.edu Wed Jul 23 13:50:51 2008 From: HPfeil at uca.edu (Hans Pfeil) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 07:50:51 -0500 Subject: Add second node to Cluster Message-ID: <4886E2DA.6010.00BD.0@uca.edu> Hey all, running OES2-L. I'm trying to add a second node to the cluster using shared storage on a SAN. I have a cluster up and running with just one server right now. Server connected to the SAN via ISCSI. The SAN is on the private 10.x.x.x subnet. I have 3 IP addresses up: Server1=xxx.xxx.xxx.1, the cluster=xxx.xxx.xxx.2, and the cluster nsspool=xxx.xxx.xxx.3 I ran sbutil -f on the first node and it comes back fine. So that is working. I'm a bit confused on how to add the second node so that it sees the shared storage on the SAN. When I try to add the second node with Novell's Cluster Service it comes back with"failed to find the SBD partition". I believe the second node also has to be connected to the SAN via ISCSI?? Is this correct?? Thanks -Hans From James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Jul 23 14:19:20 2008 From: James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com (James Taylor) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:19:20 -0400 Subject: radius In-Reply-To: <4886F717.9252.0075.1@eastcobbgroup.com> References: <488671ED.9252.0075.1@eastcobbgroup.com> <48867332020000750002F063@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> <4886F717.9252.0075.1@eastcobbgroup.com> Message-ID: <4886F798020000750002F091@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> I have had some experience with the RADIUS on NetWare, which is why I'm recommending freeradius. It has never really worked, except for some fairly narrow uses, and even then it wasn't reliable. There is no support for it. freeradius works, has good community support, and is, uh, free. -jt James Taylor The East Cobb Group, Inc. 678-697-9420 james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com http://www.eastcobbgroup.com >>> "Peter Van Lone" 7/23/2008 07:22 AM >>> so if a customer has all netware/edir for directory, we can just install an opensuse vm with freeradius, and configure it to look to edir, and off we go? You have no experience with the radius on netware options, I guess .... so really there is no simple, easy option it appears ... On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:54 PM, James Taylor wrote: > freeradius on SLES works well. > It will work using openSUSE if you don't have a SLES license. > I have clients using for wpa authentication to eDIr. > -jt > > > James Taylor > The East Cobb Group, Inc. > 678-697-9420 > james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com > http://www.eastcobbgroup.com > > >>>> "Peter Van Lone" 7/22/2008 10:51 PM >>> > It seems like this comes up once a year ... unfortunately I'm still > the companies "novell guy" (ugh) so every question comes my way. Here > is the latest: > > "Hi Peter- > > Does Novell have a free/easy to configure RADIUS server that this > customer could use?" > > HAHAHA ... I remember that there was a radius, that came with border > manager, and then at some point it was made free but not supported ... > and if I remember you had to use nwadmin32 to configure it. > > Is this the state of things, still? It is so freaking easy to do this > with AD, I wish it were easier with edir? > > P > > > > > -- > "There is a grandeur in this view of life, a life in which endless > forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being, > evolved." > > Charles Darwin > The Origin of Species > > > http://xkcd.com/167/ > > www.the-brights.net > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > -- "There is a grandeur in this view of life, a life in which endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being, evolved." Charles Darwin The Origin of Species http://xkcd.com/167/ www.the-brights.net _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From larry at ladyburd.com Fri Jul 25 15:39:40 2008 From: larry at ladyburd.com (Larry Burd) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:39:40 -0400 Subject: Vista ? References: Message-ID: <001101c8ee64$47acdaf0$8f2c13ac@Larrys> I'm ordering 4 new workstations to expand our network. NW 5.1 SP8 server, still running strong. Should we order VISTA? Is there a VISTA client?? Is it proven?? Or should we stick with our perfected XP enviornment ? Thanks, Larry From bbrush at gmail.com Fri Jul 25 16:15:24 2008 From: bbrush at gmail.com (Bill Brush) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:15:24 -0500 Subject: Vista ? In-Reply-To: <001101c8ee64$47acdaf0$8f2c13ac@Larrys> References: <001101c8ee64$47acdaf0$8f2c13ac@Larrys> Message-ID: <167f4090807250815h7256a583icaf88c6ccc8f7c57@mail.gmail.com> I would (and am) sticking with XP for now. I have not heard or seen anything in Vista that makes it a good value. Bill On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 9:39 AM, Larry Burd wrote: > I'm ordering 4 new workstations to expand our network. > NW 5.1 SP8 server, still running strong. > > Should we order VISTA? Is there a VISTA client?? Is it proven?? > Or should we stick with our perfected XP enviornment ? > From mrsmith at oconee.k12.ga.us Fri Jul 25 16:27:48 2008 From: mrsmith at oconee.k12.ga.us (Matt Smith) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:27:48 -0400 Subject: Vista ? In-Reply-To: <167f4090807250815h7256a583icaf88c6ccc8f7c57@mail.gmail.com> References: <001101c8ee64$47acdaf0$8f2c13ac@Larrys> <167f4090807250815h7256a583icaf88c6ccc8f7c57@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4889B899.E4C1.0068.0@oconee.k12.ga.us> >>> On 7/25/2008 at 11:15 AM, in message <167f4090807250815h7256a583icaf88c6ccc8f7c57 at mail.gmail.com>, "Bill Brush" wrote: > I would (and am) sticking with XP for now. I have not heard or seen > anything in Vista that makes it a good value. > > Bill My personal experience with my home machine is basically negative. I work with computers all day. I just want to come home and have my personal PC work. I really don't want to fiddle with my personal PC. Well, I've become aggravated enough that I'm going to take replace Vista with Linux. I figure if I have to constantly fiddle with it, I may as well have something that's at least going to be reliable. At work we've decided to wait on Vista until we're ready to implement Zen Configuration Mgr. That probably means no Vista in the classrooms until the next school year. -Matt -- Matt Smith Network Technology Specialist Oconee County School System, Oconee County, Georgia Office of Instruction and Technology 706-769-5685 From gbeckmeyer at acgih.org Fri Jul 25 18:07:01 2008 From: gbeckmeyer at acgih.org (Greg Beckmeyer) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:07:01 -0400 Subject: Vista ? Message-ID: I'm planning on ordering Vista Business systems for our next round of system purchases, then immediately downgrading them to XP. Might be extra work up front (if I can't find them pre-downgraded) but will give me a bit more flexibility, and if we ever do decide to move to Vista then we should be able to move everyone at the same time. We replace 1/3 to 1/4 per year, so doing it this way won't require having two different desktops for 3-4 years. Greg Beckmeyer >>> larry at ladyburd.com 7/25/2008 10:39 AM >>> I'm ordering 4 new workstations to expand our network. NW 5.1 SP8 server, still running strong. Should we order VISTA? Is there a VISTA client?? Is it proven?? Or should we stick with our perfected XP enviornment ? Thanks, Larry _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From rpcarroll at wallgames.com Fri Jul 25 19:39:26 2008 From: rpcarroll at wallgames.com (Robert Carroll) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:39:26 -0400 Subject: Vista ? References: <001101c8ee64$47acdaf0$8f2c13ac@Larrys> Message-ID: <79DB8A5977DE4EA389E5282ED77AFB8D@y6i6u5udu1mk8xk> Larry, The Vista client does not support IPX, so no connection to those older servers. -Bob Carroll ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Burd" To: Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 10:39 AM Subject: Vista ? > I'm ordering 4 new workstations to expand our network. > NW 5.1 SP8 server, still running strong. > > Should we order VISTA? Is there a VISTA client?? Is it proven?? > Or should we stick with our perfected XP enviornment ? > > Thanks, > Larry > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From debbie_carraway at ncsu.edu Fri Jul 25 21:13:33 2008 From: debbie_carraway at ncsu.edu (Debbie Carraway) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:13:33 -0400 Subject: Vista ? In-Reply-To: <79DB8A5977DE4EA389E5282ED77AFB8D@y6i6u5udu1mk8xk> References: <001101c8ee64$47acdaf0$8f2c13ac@Larrys> <79DB8A5977DE4EA389E5282ED77AFB8D@y6i6u5udu1mk8xk> Message-ID: I'm with most everyone else on Vista. When they ship a real OS, I'll install it, til then I'm sticking with XP. If it ain't broke, don't replace it with something that is. > The Vista client does not support IPX, so no connection to those older > servers. If you're running any server in IPX-only mode, well... stop it. :-) Times have changed. NW 5.1 SP8 should be fine as long as IP is configured correctly. peace, Debbie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry Burd" > To: > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 10:39 AM > Subject: Vista ? > > >> I'm ordering 4 new workstations to expand our network. >> NW 5.1 SP8 server, still running strong. >> >> Should we order VISTA? Is there a VISTA client?? Is it proven?? >> Or should we stick with our perfected XP enviornment ? >> >> Thanks, >> Larry >> _______________________________________________ >> Novell mailing list >> Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk >> http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell -- Debbie Carraway Systems & Hosted Services Office of Information Technology, NC State University Voice: 919.515.5498 AIM: DeborahCarraway From mikek at logicalcomputers.us Sun Jul 27 18:50:54 2008 From: mikek at logicalcomputers.us (Mike Kollmorgan) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 13:50:54 -0400 Subject: Vista ? In-Reply-To: <001101c8ee64$47acdaf0$8f2c13ac@Larrys> References: <001101c8ee64$47acdaf0$8f2c13ac@Larrys> Message-ID: As a system builder let me make a suggestion. If you order Vista Business you are entitled to a downgrade to Windows XP Pro if you currently own Windows XP Pro on another system. This does mean you would need to reload the system but you should consider this fact. If in the future you should decide to use Vista Business you won't need to purchase an upgrade for those systems, just put Vista back on them! This downgrade is only applicable to Vista Business and Vista Ultimate. It will only allow a downgrade to XP Pro not XP Home or Media Center. To downgrade you will need to install Windows XP Pro using the license from another system. DO NOT ACTIVATE THAT LICENSE. Call Microsoft and request a new code for that system. Tell them you are downgrading. They will ask for the Vista code. Give it to them and they should give you the new code. This is perfectly legal. The important thing is not activating the XP license that you use to install the downgrade. If you do it may affect the system that XP Pro is currently installed on. Mike Kollmorgan Logical Computer Solutions > -----Original Message----- > From: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk [mailto:novell- > bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Larry Burd > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 10:40 AM > To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu > Subject: Vista ? > > I'm ordering 4 new workstations to expand our network. > NW 5.1 SP8 server, still running strong. > > Should we order VISTA? Is there a VISTA client?? Is it proven?? > Or should we stick with our perfected XP enviornment ? > > Thanks, > Larry > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From alan at canisius.edu Mon Jul 28 10:18:22 2008 From: alan at canisius.edu (Alan D Weitzsacker) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 05:18:22 -0400 Subject: Bad start to a morning - SERVER DOWN Message-ID: <488D8EDE.4040805@canisius.edu> This is a real problem at this moment. I went through all the normal prep work & tested out multiple times applying a series of NW6.5 post SP7 updates for our main academic & root partition server. Now the after applying TCP681K iprntnw65sp7b novpatch14261 wsock6o nwlib6l scsihd-sp7b edir873sp10b The server WILL NOT BOOT. I suspect a problem with eDir, but right now I just want to bring it up far enough to get networker to reload so I can do a full restore of the SYS volume & server specific info. I will be looking for TIDs in the support site, but before I pull out my credit card & call Novell - yes, I DID get a DSR_DIB backup prior to upgrade, I'm hoping someone is out there than can help me out. It is 5:15am EDT in Buffalo, NY, USA. This is a NW6.5 SP7 which was running eDirectory 8.7.3.9. On reboot after edir, it hung at httpstk - eventually it came up with "...process will be set to a safe state" msg, then rebooted the system. I stepped through with F8 (maintenance mode), and it appears DS.NLM 10554.34 loaded OK, but then the system hung as it got to the search add sys:\java\bin line (had to be just a timing thing). --alan -- Alan D Weitzsacker, System Administrator III Canisius College, Buffalo, NY 14208 alan at canisius.edu From alan at canisius.edu Mon Jul 28 10:41:18 2008 From: alan at canisius.edu (Alan D Weitzsacker) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 05:41:18 -0400 Subject: Bad start to a morning - SERVER DOWN In-Reply-To: <488D8EDE.4040805@canisius.edu> References: <488D8EDE.4040805@canisius.edu> Message-ID: <488D943E.9070303@canisius.edu> Worse than I thought? I commented out the startup lines to talk to our EMC SAN, reverted the scsihd.cdm files & ran server -na Just looking in nwconfig, I've not had an ABEND that only has CDBE consistency check on the netware configuration file (c:\nwserver) cdbe consistency check completed successfully attempt to reinitialize re-entrant module FAILED. This is from the original failure at 4:29 am - nothing further is recorded. Alan D Weitzsacker wrote: > This is a real problem at this moment. > > I went through all the normal prep work & tested out multiple times > applying a series of NW6.5 post SP7 updates for our main academic & root > partition server. > > Now the after applying > > TCP681K > iprntnw65sp7b > novpatch14261 > wsock6o > nwlib6l > scsihd-sp7b > edir873sp10b > > The server WILL NOT BOOT. I suspect a problem with eDir, but right now > I just want to bring it up far enough to get networker to reload so I > can do a full restore of the SYS volume & server specific info. > > I will be looking for TIDs in the support site, but before I pull out my > credit card & call Novell - yes, I DID get a DSR_DIB backup prior to > upgrade, I'm hoping someone is out there than can help me out. It is > 5:15am EDT in Buffalo, NY, USA. > > This is a NW6.5 SP7 which was running eDirectory 8.7.3.9. > > On reboot after edir, it hung at httpstk - eventually it came up with > "...process will be set to a safe state" msg, then rebooted the > system. I stepped through with F8 (maintenance mode), and it appears > DS.NLM 10554.34 loaded OK, but then the system hung as it got to the > search add sys:\java\bin line (had to be just a timing thing). > > --alan > > -- Alan D Weitzsacker, System Administrator III Canisius College, Buffalo, NY 14208 alan at canisius.edu From joea at j4computers.com Mon Jul 28 11:13:00 2008 From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 06:13:00 -0400 Subject: Bad start to a morning - SERVER DOWN In-Reply-To: <488D943E.9070303@canisius.edu> References: <488D8EDE.4040805@canisius.edu> <488D943E.9070303@canisius.edu> Message-ID: <488D6369.917D.0085.0@j4computers.com> >>> On 7/28/2008 at 5:41 AM, Alan D Weitzsacker wrote: > Worse than I thought? I commented out the startup lines to talk to our > EMC SAN, reverted > the scsihd.cdm files & ran server -na > Just looking in nwconfig, I've not had an ABEND that only has > CDBE consistency check on the netware configuration file (c:\nwserver) > cdbe consistency check completed successfully > attempt to reinitialize re-entrant module FAILED. > > This is from the original failure at 4:29 am - nothing further is recorded. You might also want to do server -ns (no startup) and do the load stage thing. Like LOADSTAGE 1, observe, LOADSTAGE 2 observe, etc. I forget the particulars, but there are TID's. IIRC there is, at one stage, a nominal error, where it wants to load from SYS: which is not mounted at that stage. Been a couple of years since I had to do this. joe a. From guy at crossflight.co.uk Mon Jul 28 11:23:03 2008 From: guy at crossflight.co.uk (Guy Dawson) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 11:23:03 +0100 Subject: Vista ? In-Reply-To: <001101c8ee64$47acdaf0$8f2c13ac@Larrys> References: <001101c8ee64$47acdaf0$8f2c13ac@Larrys> Message-ID: <488D9E07.9000008@crossflight.co.uk> Larry Burd wrote: > I'm ordering 4 new workstations to expand our network. > NW 5.1 SP8 server, still running strong. > > Should we order VISTA? Only if you can get a downgrade to XP option. > Is there a VISTA client?? Yes. > Is it proven?? We have one Vista PC which we've used to decide that Vista is not worth it for us right now. Vista issues (h/w requirements) rather than a problem with the client. > Or should we stick with our perfected XP enviornment ? Yes. Guy -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Guy Dawson I.T. 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We strongly recommend that you check this email with your own virus software as Crossflight Limited will not be held responsible for any damage caused by viruses as a result of opening this email. ******************************************************************* From alan at canisius.edu Mon Jul 28 15:23:15 2008 From: alan at canisius.edu (Alan D Weitzsacker) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:23:15 -0400 Subject: Bad start to a morning - SERVER DOWN In-Reply-To: <488D6369.917D.0085.0@j4computers.com> References: <488D8EDE.4040805@canisius.edu> <488D943E.9070303@canisius.edu> <488D6369.917D.0085.0@j4computers.com> Message-ID: <488DD653.2050105@canisius.edu> Thanks for the response - I already had a service call in process when I received your mail. I was stepped through the loadstage process & took notes before I did any typing for future reference. I ended up doing a down server upgrade, but now have a usable system with an unexpected variable change. I now have eDirectory 8.8 SP2 running on my root partition server. ZDM7SP1 seems to be OK with it so far. Only need to hang on 1 more academic year. joea at j4computers.com wrote: >>>> On 7/28/2008 at 5:41 AM, Alan D Weitzsacker wrote: >>>> >> Worse than I thought? I commented out the startup lines to talk to our >> EMC SAN, reverted >> the scsihd.cdm files & ran server -na >> Just looking in nwconfig, I've not had an ABEND that only has >> CDBE consistency check on the netware configuration file (c:\nwserver) >> cdbe consistency check completed successfully >> attempt to reinitialize re-entrant module FAILED. >> >> This is from the original failure at 4:29 am - nothing further is recorded. >> > > You might also want to do server -ns (no startup) and do the load stage thing. Like LOADSTAGE 1, observe, LOADSTAGE 2 observe, etc. I forget the particulars, but there are TID's. > > IIRC there is, at one stage, a nominal error, where it wants to load from SYS: which is not mounted at that stage. Been a couple of years since I had to do this. > > joe a. > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > -- Alan D Weitzsacker, System Administrator III Canisius College, Buffalo, NY 14208 alan at canisius.edu From fubarsnafu69 at gmail.com Mon Jul 28 19:15:25 2008 From: fubarsnafu69 at gmail.com (fred james) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:15:25 -0400 Subject: zenworks v6.5 - If file exist Message-ID: <32a559c50807281115t59dec17uebab1b0b181a8ed6@mail.gmail.com> I have a set of commands to install an applications - Currently the app object calls a batch file. (p:\nitro\Install.cmd) Echo installing Nitro P:\Nitro\Setup.exe REM Check to see if Office 2007 is installed IF EXIST C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office12\excel.exe then regexit /s nitro-Office.reg else goto end :END Company would rather me not use batch file to install any applications. I made an app object that includes the registry changes and I have Availability/Distribution Rules set for (File Exist) and have it check this path for excel.exe C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office12\excel.exe If it finds excel.exe here then it is v12 (2007) and should install registry changes But when I make this a dependancy of the main app and excel v12 isn't install I get error telling me so than it stops the distribution of the main app. Is that by design. Is their a way to make the distribution continue - I have tried on the main app - on App Dependencies tab to have it continue Distribution Immeadiately - but this didn't work Thanks Fred From pjc9001 at nyp.org Mon Jul 28 19:29:02 2008 From: pjc9001 at nyp.org (Peter J. Cox) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:29:02 -0400 Subject: zenworks v6.5 - If file exist In-Reply-To: <32a559c50807281115t59dec17uebab1b0b181a8ed6@mail.gmail.com> References: <32a559c50807281115t59dec17uebab1b0b181a8ed6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <488E0FEE.4000804@nyp.org> Fred, As I understood it, chaining the apps makes the second app's execution dependent on the first's successful completion. In your example the first one does NOT successfully complete without office 12. You may want to create a second app for the possibility of Office 12 not being there (make the first app in the chain contingent upon file NOT exist instead). It's a pain to keep track of two installations (4 apps altogether) but I think that that's the only way. But then again, I could be wrong. If there are any questions or problems please contact me. _______________________ Peter J. Cox Network Manager, IT NY Methodist Hospital 718-780-3250 Office 718-780-5993 HelpDesk fred james wrote: > I have a set of commands to install an applications - Currently the > app object calls a batch file. > > (p:\nitro\Install.cmd) > Echo installing Nitro > P:\Nitro\Setup.exe > REM Check to see if Office 2007 is installed > IF EXIST C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office12\excel.exe then > regexit /s nitro-Office.reg else goto end > > :END > > > Company would rather me not use batch file to install any applications. > > I made an app object that includes the registry changes and I have > Availability/Distribution Rules set for (File Exist) and have it check > this path for excel.exe > > C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office12\excel.exe > > If it finds excel.exe here then it is v12 (2007) and should install > registry changes > > But when I make this a dependancy of the main app and excel v12 isn't > install I get error telling me so than it stops the distribution of > the main app. Is that by design. > > Is their a way to make the distribution continue - I have tried on the > main app - on App Dependencies tab to have it continue Distribution > Immeadiately - but this didn't work > > Thanks > > > Fred > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > -------------------- This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information that is confidential or privileged. 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T2 Alan D Weitzsacker Sent by: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk 07/28/2008 10:23 AM Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group To Novell LAN Interest Group cc Subject Re: Bad start to a morning - SERVER DOWN Thanks for the response - I already had a service call in process when I received your mail. I was stepped through the loadstage process & took notes before I did any typing for future reference. I ended up doing a down server upgrade, but now have a usable system with an unexpected variable change. I now have eDirectory 8.8 SP2 running on my root partition server. ZDM7SP1 seems to be OK with it so far. Only need to hang on 1 more academic year. joea at j4computers.com wrote: >>>> On 7/28/2008 at 5:41 AM, Alan D Weitzsacker wrote: >>>> >> Worse than I thought? I commented out the startup lines to talk to our >> EMC SAN, reverted >> the scsihd.cdm files & ran server -na >> Just looking in nwconfig, I've not had an ABEND that only has >> CDBE consistency check on the netware configuration file (c:\nwserver) >> cdbe consistency check completed successfully >> attempt to reinitialize re-entrant module FAILED. >> >> This is from the original failure at 4:29 am - nothing further is recorded. >> > > You might also want to do server -ns (no startup) and do the load stage thing. Like LOADSTAGE 1, observe, LOADSTAGE 2 observe, etc. I forget the particulars, but there are TID's. > > IIRC there is, at one stage, a nominal error, where it wants to load from SYS: which is not mounted at that stage. Been a couple of years since I had to do this. > > joe a. > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > -- Alan D Weitzsacker, System Administrator III Canisius College, Buffalo, NY 14208 alan at canisius.edu _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell -- BEGIN-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS ------------------------------------------------------ Teach CanIt if this mail (ID 137057498) is spam: Spam: http://milton1.wnyric.org/canit/b.php?i=137057498&m=272344bf74c2&c=s Not spam: http://milton1.wnyric.org/canit/b.php?i=137057498&m=272344bf74c2&c=n Forget vote: http://milton1.wnyric.org/canit/b.php?i=137057498&m=272344bf74c2&c=f ------------------------------------------------------ END-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS From joea at j4computers.com Tue Jul 29 23:27:53 2008 From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:27:53 -0400 Subject: SLES looking for LDAP, but it's not running Message-ID: <488F6127.917D.0085.0@j4computers.com> On a SLES box, that had been running fine, till a storm blew by, suddenly will not send mail. Log shows postfix seems to want an LDAP server, but I see no LDAP server running, courtesy of YAST, and see no config in mail that specified LDAP. Confused now? You're not alone. This is what I see in /var/log/mail: Jul 29 18:20:41 FS-X postfix/pickup[5621]: B6E9D1A293: uid=0 from= Jul 29 18:20:41 FS-X postfix/cleanup[5741]: warning: dict_ldap_lookup: Search error -1: Can't contact LDAP server Jul 29 18:20:41 FS-X postfix/cleanup[5741]: warning: B6E9D1A293: virtual_alias_maps map lookup problem for root at FS-X.here.com Jul 29 18:20:41 FS-FAX postfix/pickup[5621]: warning: maildrop/E3CDE19971: Error writing message file joe a. From James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Jul 30 00:09:21 2008 From: James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com (James Taylor) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:09:21 -0400 Subject: SLES looking for LDAP, but it's not running In-Reply-To: <488F69A0.9252.0075.1@eastcobbgroup.com> References: <488F69A0.9252.0075.1@eastcobbgroup.com> Message-ID: <488F6AE1020000750002FC3B@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> What is the mail configuration supposed to be? Unless postfix is set up to deliver or forward mail to and/or from some sort of mail system, all it will do is deliver system mail messages to the admin. -jt James Taylor The East Cobb Group, Inc. 678-697-9420 james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com http://www.eastcobbgroup.com >>> "joea at j4computers.com" 7/29/2008 06:27 PM >>> On a SLES box, that had been running fine, till a storm blew by, suddenly will not send mail. Log shows postfix seems to want an LDAP server, but I see no LDAP server running, courtesy of YAST, and see no config in mail that specified LDAP. Confused now? You're not alone. This is what I see in /var/log/mail: Jul 29 18:20:41 FS-X postfix/pickup[5621]: B6E9D1A293: uid=0 from= Jul 29 18:20:41 FS-X postfix/cleanup[5741]: warning: dict_ldap_lookup: Search error -1: Can't contact LDAP server Jul 29 18:20:41 FS-X postfix/cleanup[5741]: warning: B6E9D1A293: virtual_alias_maps map lookup problem for root at FS-X.here.com Jul 29 18:20:41 FS-FAX postfix/pickup[5621]: warning: maildrop/E3CDE19971: Error writing message file joe a. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From joea at j4computers.com Wed Jul 30 01:24:10 2008 From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:24:10 -0400 Subject: SLES looking for LDAP, but it's not running In-Reply-To: <488F6AE1020000750002FC3B@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> References: <488F69A0.9252.0075.1@eastcobbgroup.com> <488F6AE1020000750002FC3B@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> Message-ID: <488F7C69.917D.0085.0@j4computers.com> This is a Hylafax system. It sends all received FAX via email to a specific account at a specific host. Something hammered this system in a strange way. Happenstance-ed-ly, it was right after a horrendous electrical storm. One odd thing was that system date was set to Dec 2000 at some point. In any event, after hacking about and finding a line in /etc/postfix/main.cf that referred to LDAP stuff that matched some error verbage in the mail log, I commented that out and did an rcpostfix restart. It was happy enough to start attempting to deliver mail. When I fixed an hacking error I made, that pointed to the wrong mail relay, it was even happier. All smiles now that useful mail has arrived. Still have log messages about -1 errors on LDAP lookup, but well enough alone, for the moment. joe a. >>> On 7/29/2008 at 7:09 PM, "James Taylor" wrote: > What is the mail configuration supposed to be? > Unless postfix is set up to deliver or forward mail to and/or from some sort > of mail system, all it will do is deliver system mail messages to the admin. > -jt > > > James Taylor > The East Cobb Group, Inc. > 678-697-9420 > james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com > http://www.eastcobbgroup.com > > > > >>>> "joea at j4computers.com" 7/29/2008 06:27 PM >>> > On a SLES box, that had been running fine, till a storm blew by, suddenly > will not send mail. Log shows postfix seems to want an LDAP server, but I > see no LDAP server running, courtesy of YAST, and see no config in mail that > specified LDAP. > > Confused now? You're not alone. > > This is what I see in /var/log/mail: > > Jul 29 18:20:41 FS-X postfix/pickup[5621]: B6E9D1A293: uid=0 from= > Jul 29 18:20:41 FS-X postfix/cleanup[5741]: warning: dict_ldap_lookup: Search > error -1: Can't contact LDAP server > Jul 29 18:20:41 FS-X postfix/cleanup[5741]: warning: B6E9D1A293: > virtual_alias_maps map lookup problem for root at FS-X.here.com > Jul 29 18:20:41 FS-FAX postfix/pickup[5621]: warning: maildrop/E3CDE19971: > Error writing message file > > > joe a. > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From RGrein at tpchd.org Wed Jul 30 16:04:25 2008 From: RGrein at tpchd.org (Randy Grein) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 08:04:25 -0700 Subject: Color printer Message-ID: <48902084.811E.0072.0@tpchd.org> Looking for a recommendation. We have an old Xerox Phaser 7300 color printer that's dying, and the multifunction printers (both Canon and HP) that are the current standard seem, well, fragile. One broke after 2 months of service (warranty expired, don't ask). So what is everyone using for a mid-size color printer? It will support 16 users, up to 11x17, etc. Randy Grein Sr. Network Engineer ************************************************************************************* This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. It has been scanned for viruses. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination, use, review, disclosure, or distribution of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. ************************************************************************************** From MGosselin at piercelaw.edu Wed Jul 30 17:04:31 2008 From: MGosselin at piercelaw.edu (Marc Gosselin) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:04:31 -0400 Subject: ZCM install Message-ID: <489058C5.B014.0036.0@piercelaw.edu> I'm trying to install ZCM on my network and am having problems connecting to the external win2005 sql server. I'm installing from a win 2003 server and the install wizard asks to ensure the following path exists on the remote SQL server but I'm not sure how to enter the path. The location on the remote sql server is C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL.1\MSSQL\Data\ and the server name is White. How would I enter the path correctly? I remember seeing something about this at the last brainshare but I can't for the life of me remember what it was. Thanks for any help, Marc From jgramse at utah.gov Wed Jul 30 17:44:11 2008 From: jgramse at utah.gov (Jim Gramse) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:44:11 -0600 Subject: Color printer In-Reply-To: <48902084.811E.0072.0@tpchd.org> References: <48902084.811E.0072.0@tpchd.org> Message-ID: <489045EE.3F60.0076.0@utah.gov> HP 4350c >>> "Randy Grein" 7/30/2008 9:04 AM >>> Looking for a recommendation. We have an old Xerox Phaser 7300 color printer that's dying, and the multifunction printers (both Canon and HP) that are the current standard seem, well, fragile. One broke after 2 months of service (warranty expired, don't ask). So what is everyone using for a mid-size color printer? It will support 16 users, up to 11x17, etc. Randy Grein Sr. Network Engineer ************************************************************************************* This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. It has been scanned for viruses. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination, use, review, disclosure, or distribution of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. ************************************************************************************** _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From budthegrey at gmail.com Wed Jul 30 19:30:11 2008 From: budthegrey at gmail.com (Bud Durland) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:30:11 -0400 Subject: Color printer In-Reply-To: <489045EE.3F60.0076.0@utah.gov> References: <48902084.811E.0072.0@tpchd.org> <489045EE.3F60.0076.0@utah.gov> Message-ID: <509526700807301130i111f6152v2bdf251cdce80fa9@mail.gmail.com> Hey Randy; We've got two Xerox 8560's. This is the version that uses the little wax blocks ("crayons"), instead of tradition toner. They do between 7500-9000 pages a month. We had one warranty issue with one of them, but Xerox was here the next day to fix it, no trouble. Other than that, the only thing is the occasional jamming on very humid days using cheap paper. We really like the print quality, NDPS gets long with them, and the web interface is pretty easy (and can show tremendous detail about print jobs, including how much of the crayons was consumed to print the job. These don't do 11x17, but I'd expect the same level of success with the larger units. Avoid the Brother color lasers. I like the monochrome stuff well enough, but the color units we had eat you out of house and home on consumable costs. On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Jim Gramse wrote: > HP 4350c > >>>> "Randy Grein" 7/30/2008 9:04 AM >>> > Looking for a recommendation. We have an old Xerox Phaser 7300 color printer that's dying, and the multifunction printers (both Canon and HP) that are the current standard seem, well, fragile. One broke after 2 months of service (warranty expired, don't ask). So what is everyone using for a mid-size color printer? It will support 16 users, up to 11x17, etc. > -- ---------------------------------------------------------- I'm in my own little world. But that's OK, because they all know me here. From gbembridge at gmail.com Wed Jul 30 20:58:57 2008 From: gbembridge at gmail.com (Greg Bembridge) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:58:57 -0300 Subject: Apache Down Message-ID: <8fd5a2fd0807301258h12162697veaff443d082bdcf@mail.gmail.com> GWAVA support did a remote into our small business version 6.5 server last week and updated their software to latest version. Apache no longer loads on our Novell server - and ofcourse they did nothing wrong. Hence no groupwise web access and/or novell remote server maintenance. Ideas and suggestions on where to start looking, greatly appreciated. Thanks, Greg From James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Jul 30 21:02:45 2008 From: James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com (James Taylor) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:02:45 -0400 Subject: Apache Down In-Reply-To: <4890907B.9252.0075.1@eastcobbgroup.com> References: <4890907B.9252.0075.1@eastcobbgroup.com> Message-ID: <489090A5020000750002FE58@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> I would check to see if the server certificates expired. If you haven't restarted apache in awhile, it could have expired without you realizing it. It only checks the certificate during startup. -jt James Taylor The East Cobb Group, Inc. 678-697-9420 james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com http://www.eastcobbgroup.com >>> "Greg Bembridge" 7/30/2008 03:58 PM >>> GWAVA support did a remote into our small business version 6.5 server last week and updated their software to latest version. Apache no longer loads on our Novell server - and ofcourse they did nothing wrong. Hence no groupwise web access and/or novell remote server maintenance. Ideas and suggestions on where to start looking, greatly appreciated. Thanks, Greg _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From PHasenjager at kcumb.edu Wed Jul 30 21:18:44 2008 From: PHasenjager at kcumb.edu (Patrick Hasenjager) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:18:44 -0500 Subject: ZCM install In-Reply-To: <489058C5.B014.0036.0@piercelaw.edu> References: <489058C5.B014.0036.0@piercelaw.edu> Message-ID: <48908654.6E24.0005.0@kcumb.edu> You should use the full path to the directory where the data is stored. In my case it was D:\SQLData. You may need to truncate it to 8.3 naming conventions. I'm not sure how it handles long path names. Pat. >>> On 7/30/2008 at 11:04 AM, "Marc Gosselin" wrote: I'm trying to install ZCM on my network and am having problems connecting to the external win2005 sql server. I'm installing from a win 2003 server and the install wizard asks to ensure the following path exists on the remote SQL server but I'm not sure how to enter the path. The location on the remote sql server is C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL.1\MSSQL\Data\ and the server name is White. How would I enter the path correctly? I remember seeing something about this at the last brainshare but I can't for the life of me remember what it was. Thanks for any help, Marc _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From PHasenjager at kcumb.edu Wed Jul 30 21:20:07 2008 From: PHasenjager at kcumb.edu (Patrick Hasenjager) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:20:07 -0500 Subject: ZCM install Message-ID: <489086A6.6E24.0005.0@kcumb.edu> **I guess I should have said that the path is relative to the SQL server and not the server hosting ZCM.** You should use the full path to the directory where the data is stored. In my case it was D:\SQLData. You may need to truncate it to 8.3 naming conventions. I'm not sure how it handles long path names. Pat. >>> On 7/30/2008 at 11:04 AM, "Marc Gosselin" wrote: I'm trying to install ZCM on my network and am having problems connecting to the external win2005 sql server. I'm installing from a win 2003 server and the install wizard asks to ensure the following path exists on the remote SQL server but I'm not sure how to enter the path. The location on the remote sql server is C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL.1\MSSQL\Data\ and the server name is White. How would I enter the path correctly? I remember seeing something about this at the last brainshare but I can't for the life of me remember what it was. Thanks for any help, Marc _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From pjc9001 at nyp.org Wed Jul 30 21:20:44 2008 From: pjc9001 at nyp.org (Peter J. Cox) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:20:44 -0400 Subject: Apache Down In-Reply-To: <8fd5a2fd0807301258h12162697veaff443d082bdcf@mail.gmail.com> References: <8fd5a2fd0807301258h12162697veaff443d082bdcf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4890CD1C.9030308@nyp.org> Greg, What kind of error(s) do you get when it tries to load? Have you check the apache error log or the console log? If there are any questions or problems please contact me. _______________________ Peter J. Cox Network Manager, IT NY Methodist Hospital 718-780-3250 Office 718-780-5993 HelpDesk Greg Bembridge wrote: > GWAVA support did a remote into our small business version 6.5 server last > week and updated their software to latest version. Apache no longer loads > on our Novell server - and ofcourse they did nothing wrong. Hence no > groupwise web access and/or novell remote server maintenance. > > Ideas and suggestions on where to start looking, greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, Greg > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > -------------------- This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address noted above, and delete and destroy all copies of this message. Thank you. From greg at steadfast.ca Wed Jul 30 21:24:09 2008 From: greg at steadfast.ca (Greg Bembridge) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:24:09 -0300 Subject: Apache Down Message-ID: <8fd5a2fd0807301324k233375c3sa8aa9278dbc61a79@mail.gmail.com> Further to earlier message, Tomcat4 will not load. Following errors observed........ server:tcadmup.ncf CATALINA_OPTS = -Djavax.net.ssl.trustStore=sys:/adminsrv/conf/.keystore -Dsun. io.useCanonCaches=false server:tomcat4 CATALINA_OPTS = -vm160m -Xmx256m -Djavax.net.ssl.trustStore=sys:/adminsrv/conf /.keystore -Dsun.io.useCanonCaches=false From TJohnson at lancaster.wnyric.org Wed Jul 30 21:32:07 2008 From: TJohnson at lancaster.wnyric.org (TJohnson at lancaster.wnyric.org) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:32:07 -0400 Subject: Apache Down In-Reply-To: <8fd5a2fd0807301324k233375c3sa8aa9278dbc61a79@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I would run pkidiag on the server and make sure all your certs are in order and then follow it up with a tckeygen. Run the pkidiag in "reporting" mode first. Hope this helps. T2 "Greg Bembridge" Sent by: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk 07/30/2008 04:24 PM Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group To novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk cc Subject RE: Apache Down Further to earlier message, Tomcat4 will not load. Following errors observed........ server:tcadmup.ncf CATALINA_OPTS = -Djavax.net.ssl.trustStore=sys:/adminsrv/conf/.keystore -Dsun. io.useCanonCaches=false server:tomcat4 CATALINA_OPTS = -vm160m -Xmx256m -Djavax.net.ssl.trustStore=sys:/adminsrv/conf /.keystore -Dsun.io.useCanonCaches=false _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell -- BEGIN-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS ------------------------------------------------------ Teach CanIt if this mail (ID 137412882) is spam: Spam: http://milton1.wnyric.org/canit/b.php?i=137412882&m=6c0dad8283b2&c=s Not spam: http://milton1.wnyric.org/canit/b.php?i=137412882&m=6c0dad8283b2&c=n Forget vote: http://milton1.wnyric.org/canit/b.php?i=137412882&m=6c0dad8283b2&c=f ------------------------------------------------------ END-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS From mccaina at cedarville.edu Thu Jul 31 02:37:23 2008 From: mccaina at cedarville.edu (Alan McCain) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:37:23 -0400 Subject: NetStorage and ncp connections Message-ID: <4890DF12.D242.00B5.1@cedarville.edu> I'm finding that my NetStorage server is making many ncp connections (hundreds and sometimes thousands) to my main LDAP servers. The NetStorage server is just barely used right now. When I check the number of user connections to that service via iManager there is usually just 1 or 2. And the number of ncp connections never seems to decrease without rebooting the servers. Does anyone else experience this? It really causes havoc to my LDAP servers after a while and I have to reboot them. User storage is not located on the LDAP servers. Any ideas? Alan From peschmid at mpsomaha.org Thu Jul 31 16:31:24 2008 From: peschmid at mpsomaha.org (Patrick Schmidt) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 10:31:24 -0500 Subject: Apache Down In-Reply-To: <489090A5020000750002FE58@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> References: <4890907B.9252.0075.1@eastcobbgroup.com> <489090A5020000750002FE58@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> Message-ID: <48919487.664C.00E4.0@mpsomaha.org> Agreed. Use the pkidiag utility. -------------------------------------------------- Patrick Schmidt Millard Public Schools Network Support Specialist (402)715-6278 peschmid at mpsomaha.org --------------------------------------------------- >>> "James Taylor" 7/30/2008 3:02 PM >>> I would check to see if the server certificates expired. If you haven't restarted apache in awhile, it could have expired without you realizing it. It only checks the certificate during startup. -jt James Taylor The East Cobb Group, Inc. 678-697-9420 james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com http://www.eastcobbgroup.com >>> "Greg Bembridge" 7/30/2008 03:58 PM >>> GWAVA support did a remote into our small business version 6.5 server last week and updated their software to latest version. Apache no longer loads on our Novell server - and ofcourse they did nothing wrong. Hence no groupwise web access and/or novell remote server maintenance. Ideas and suggestions on where to start looking, greatly appreciated. Thanks, Greg _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From fubarsnafu69 at gmail.com Thu Jul 31 20:50:11 2008 From: fubarsnafu69 at gmail.com (fred james) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:50:11 -0400 Subject: Zenwork 6.5 - App question - Run Once & Reboot required Message-ID: <32a559c50807311250j5bb9acfcrbdc5835d4f5bdd07@mail.gmail.com> I am using a batch file to uninstall a program that has 2 separate entries here is the batch file commands - which work fine if I just launch the batch file - that is until I add it to ZenApp object MsiExec.exe /qn /uninstall {B1A9CD45-A702-4E3B-91ED-8CD562869901} MsiExec.exe /qn /uninstall {296F0339-EE6F-44DE-8C3C-557B94C88A29} I set it to run once and require a reboot - As soon as I click the NalWin object it ask me to reboot. I have tried to add START /WAIT at beginning of the line, but it does the same thing. It Never does the uninstall. Thanks Fred From HPfeil at uca.edu Thu Jul 31 21:57:03 2008 From: HPfeil at uca.edu (Hans Pfeil) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:57:03 -0500 Subject: SNMP Message-ID: <4891E0CE.6010.00BD.0@uca.edu> Hey all, please excuse my ignorance regarding SNMP. I'm running NW6.5sp6/7. The boss would like to get some network traffic via snmp. I'm at a complete loss on how to set this up with NetWare. Do I just have to load snmp.nlm? Any Doc's out there to get me going? Thanks all, -Hans From James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Thu Jul 31 22:31:51 2008 From: James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com (James Taylor) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:31:51 -0400 Subject: SNMP In-Reply-To: <4891F6A8.9252.0075.1@eastcobbgroup.com> References: <4891F6A8.9252.0075.1@eastcobbgroup.com> Message-ID: <4891F70702000075000300DA@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> You need to run inetcfg.nlm Manage Configuration|Configure SNMP Parameters You can configure the community and trap streams there. Save and reinitialize system to make it active. -jt James Taylor The East Cobb Group, Inc. 678-697-9420 james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com http://www.eastcobbgroup.com >>> "Hans Pfeil" 7/31/2008 04:57 PM >>> Hey all, please excuse my ignorance regarding SNMP. I'm running NW6.5sp6/7. The boss would like to get some network traffic via snmp. I'm at a complete loss on how to set this up with NetWare. Do I just have to load snmp.nlm? Any Doc's out there to get me going? Thanks all, -Hans _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From alandpearson at yahoo.com Thu Jul 31 23:06:38 2008 From: alandpearson at yahoo.com (Alan Pearson) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:06:38 +0100 Subject: Zenwork 6.5 - App question - Run Once & Reboot required In-Reply-To: <32a559c50807311250j5bb9acfcrbdc5835d4f5bdd07@mail.gmail.com> References: <32a559c50807311250j5bb9acfcrbdc5835d4f5bdd07@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Have you set the command interpreter in the zen run window to be cmd.exe /c It probably can't find MsiExec.exe --- AlanP On 31 Jul 2008, at 20:50, fred james wrote: > I am using a batch file to uninstall a program that has 2 separate > entries > here is the batch file commands - which work fine if I just launch the > batch file - that is until I add it to ZenApp object > > MsiExec.exe /qn /uninstall {B1A9CD45-A702-4E3B-91ED-8CD562869901} > MsiExec.exe /qn /uninstall {296F0339-EE6F-44DE-8C3C-557B94C88A29} > > > I set it to run once and require a reboot - As soon as I click the > NalWin object it ask me to reboot. > > I have tried to add START /WAIT at beginning of the line, but it does > the same thing. It Never does the uninstall. > > Thanks > > Fred > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From alandpearson at yahoo.com Thu Jul 31 23:06:38 2008 From: alandpearson at yahoo.com (Alan Pearson) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:06:38 +0100 Subject: Zenwork 6.5 - App question - Run Once & Reboot required In-Reply-To: <32a559c50807311250j5bb9acfcrbdc5835d4f5bdd07@mail.gmail.com> References: <32a559c50807311250j5bb9acfcrbdc5835d4f5bdd07@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Have you set the command interpreter in the zen run window to be cmd.exe /c It probably can't find MsiExec.exe --- AlanP On 31 Jul 2008, at 20:50, fred james wrote: > I am using a batch file to uninstall a program that has 2 separate > entries > here is the batch file commands - which work fine if I just launch the > batch file - that is until I add it to ZenApp object > > MsiExec.exe /qn /uninstall {B1A9CD45-A702-4E3B-91ED-8CD562869901} > MsiExec.exe /qn /uninstall {296F0339-EE6F-44DE-8C3C-557B94C88A29} > > > I set it to run once and require a reboot - As soon as I click the > NalWin object it ask me to reboot. > > I have tried to add START /WAIT at beginning of the line, but it does > the same thing. It Never does the uninstall. > > Thanks > > Fred > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell