From joea at j4computers.com  Sun Jun  1 20:02:29 2008
From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com)
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 15:02:29 -0400
Subject: NW 6.5 BackupExec 9.2 hangs server
References: <483A9752.917D.0085.0@j4computers.com>
	<C9F1A946-D2B4-43B6-AD0F-B95ED66D6509@comcast.net>
	<483BA7A5.917D.0085.0@j4computers.com>
Message-ID: <4842BA04.917D.0085.0@j4computers.com>

FWIW, reinstalling BE did not resolve the problem.

Renamed the bexec folder on SYS and reinstalled BW "from scratch".  Works fine now.

joe a.

>>> On 5/27/2008 at 6:18 AM, joea at j4computers.com wrote:
> 
> No, of course not.  They are on the RAID card, as in O.
> 
> joe a.
> 
> >>> On 5/27/2008 at 1:59 AM, Randy Grein <randygrein at comcast.net> wrote:
> > You didn't put the new drives on the tape SCSI channel, did you?
> > 
> > Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA
> > 
> > On May 26, 2008, at 7:56 AM, joea at j4computers.com wrote:
> > 
> >> Have a NW 6.5 sp5 server that had been running backps flawlessly.   
> >> One day, the server hung.  I mean, it would not respond to pings.  
> >> The server console seemed "up", but any attempt to load a module, or  
> >> do anything at all, simply hung the console.  Could get into  
> >> debugger to quit.
> >>
> >> The Tape backup seems to be at fault.  Have changed the drive, scsi  
> >> controller and cables.  Have updated to latest BE 9.2.
> >>
> >> The tape log is incomplete,  last entry being "backup set ended at"  
> >> blah.  Yet, I happened to be watching the job, remotely, and know it  
> >> progressed to the next job and was ripping right along.  Sometime  
> >> later, it must have hung, before that job completed.
> >>
> >> The server is a Dell 2800, RAID 5 and RAID 0, a LTO2 tape.
> >>
> >> Two drives were added recently, for the RAID 0.  The tape problem  
> >> was not evident before this, but there was no syncronicity with the  
> >> install, as far as we recall.
> >>
> >> Suggestions, before we have to call symantec?
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk 
> >> http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell 
> > 
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> 


From colin.connolly at phon.ox.ac.uk  Mon Jun  2 00:27:26 2008
From: colin.connolly at phon.ox.ac.uk (Colin Connolly)
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 00:27:26 +0100
Subject: Tcopy error message
Message-ID: <48433E6E.14489.D8AE9F7@colin.connolly.phon.ox.ac.uk>

I need to copy the trustee rights on a folder & subdirs on an old NW5.1 server onto a copy of 
the same folder structure on a NW6.5 server (different tree). I used the SCMT to migrate the 
data, but SCMT couldn't keep the trustee rights as the IDs are different on each user/group 
object on the new tree.

A colleague recommended looking at tcopy and it seems it should do the job for me but it's 
not working... 

With tcopy.exe in sys:\public on the old box, the root of the data 5.1 dir mapped as M: and 
the root of the copied dir on the NW6.5 box as N:  on my workstation, while logged in as 
Admin to both servers, I did:

tcopy m: n: /s and got:

NWAllocTempNDSirHandle(Destination) returned 89FF for DATA:MLADMIN51 on line #28

(MLADMIN51 is the target dir on the NW6.5 box)

I can't find this error message in either the Novell KB on using Google - can any one help? 
One reference I found to 89FF which was very old (referred to NW4.x) seemed to suggest 
that tcopy be used after ncopy... but doesn't the SCMT do the same job as ncopy would?

Or is there another, better, way to do this? The data folder needs to go over "as is" so a 
group of admin users can pick their folders/files out of it and populate a new admin filestore 
on the 6.5 box.

Thanks.

Colin

Colin Connolly
IT Manager
Phonetics, Linguistics & Modern Languages
University of Oxford
Oxford OX1 2JF (UK)

Tel: +44 1865 270448
Fax: +44 1865 270445
Email: colin.connolly at phon.ox.ac.uk


From petervl at gmail.com  Mon Jun  2 04:03:24 2008
From: petervl at gmail.com (Peter Van Lone)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 22:03:24 -0500
Subject: sigh -- abend log -- opinions?
Message-ID: <68b791330806012003r220d03f0he56154679862cc1f@mail.gmail.com>

Below are some snippets from an abend log. The server that is abending
has been fine for a couple years, until the admin put a second
processor in, and added ram. Now, even with the second processor out,
and ram back to what it was, it is abending (often "silently") and
having odd comms issues (ie, people can't login, then if they keep
trying they can, but then they get bumped out, again).

Please peruse and advise, if you have any ideas. The admin has
recently updated from sp6 to sp7 and he may (I'm not sure right now)
have updated to the post sp7 winsock and clib. Hardware diags return
no issues.


Novell Open Enterprise Server, NetWare 6.5
PVER: 6.50.07

Server BT2M halted Sunday, June 1, 2008   8:17:26.273 pm
Abend 1 on P01: Server-5.70.07: Page Fault Processor Exception (Error
code 00000000)

Registers:
    CS = 0008 DS = 0023 ES = 0023 FS = 0023 GS = 0023 SS = 0010
    EAX = 00000001 EBX = 2C91E1A8 ECX = 928943DC EDX = 00000020
    ESI = 898E97A4 EDI = 00000000 EBP = 928943DC ESP = 8A1D3F74
    EIP = 918807A8 FLAGS = 00010002
    918807A8 8B07           MOV     EAX, [EDI]=?
    EIP in ETHERTSM.NLM at code start +000007A8h
    Access Location: 0x00000000

The violation occurred while processing the following instruction:
918807A8 8B07           MOV     EAX, [EDI]
918807AA 8945A0         MOV     [EBP-60], EAX
918807AD 83C708         ADD     EDI, 00000008
918807B0 8D4630         LEA     EAX, [ESI+30]
918807B3 894710         MOV     [EDI+10], EAX
918807B6 897730         MOV     [EDI+30], ESI
918807B9 897746         MOV     [EDI+46], ESI
918807BC 66F743220010   TEST    word ptr [EBX+22], 1000
918807C2 0F8407000000   JZ      918807CF
918807C8 E8F3000000     CALL    918808C0



Running process: Processor 1: IDLE Thread Process
Thread Owned by NLM: SERVER.NLM
Stack pointer: 8A1D3FB8
OS Stack limit: 8A1D2000
CPU 1 (Thread 8A1D1480) is in a NO SLEEP state
Scheduling priority: 67371008
Wait state: 3031111  Intermedidate Goto READY
Stack: 8975A40B  (LSL.NLM|LSLSMPSendProcedure+EB)
       --00000001  (LOADER.NLM|KernelAddressSpace+1)
       --89B1A524  ?
       -89762790  (LSL.NLM|AdapterLockTable+20)
       --00000000  (LOADER.NLM|KernelAddressSpace+0)
       --00000000  (LOADER.NLM|KernelAddressSpace+0)
       --00000001  (LOADER.NLM|KernelAddressSpace+1)
       --00000000  (LOADER.NLM|KernelAddressSpace+0)
       0036B3D8  (SERVER.NLM|DirectCallPollProcedures+18)
       --00000000  (LOADER.NLM|KernelAddressSpace+0)
       002118FC  (SERVER.NLM|CallRegisteredPollingRoutines+44)
       --00000000  (LOADER.NLM|KernelAddressSpace+0)
       --00000000  (LOADER.NLM|KernelAddressSpace+0)
       --00000108  (LOADER.NLM|KernelAddressSpace+108)
       0022EA51  (SERVER.NLM|MpkSystemWork+61)
       --00000000  (LOADER.NLM|KernelAddressSpace+0)

<snip a bunch more of this>
The CPU encountered a problem executing code in ETHERTSM.NLM.  The
problem may be in that module or in data passed to that module by a
process owned by SERVER.NLM


Peter


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forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being,
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From tim at nds8.co.uk  Mon Jun  2 07:14:42 2008
From: tim at nds8.co.uk (Tim Heywood)
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 07:14:42 +0100
Subject: sigh -- abend log -- opinions?
In-Reply-To: <68b791330806012003r220d03f0he56154679862cc1f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <68b791330806012003r220d03f0he56154679862cc1f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48439DE2020000BB0008FF1D@mail2.nds8.com>

BX2.LAN 3.70



>>> On 02 June 2008 at 04:03, "Peter Van Lone" <petervl at gmail.com> wrote:
> Below are some snippets from an abend log. The server that is abending
> has been fine for a couple years, until the admin put a second
> processor in, and added ram. Now, even with the second processor out,
> and ram back to what it was, it is abending (often "silently") and
> having odd comms issues (ie, people can't login, then if they keep
> trying they can, but then they get bumped out, again).
> 
> Please peruse and advise, if you have any ideas. The admin has
> recently updated from sp6 to sp7 and he may (I'm not sure right now)
> have updated to the post sp7 winsock and clib. Hardware diags return
> no issues.
> 
> 
> Novell Open Enterprise Server, NetWare 6.5
> PVER: 6.50.07
> 
> Server BT2M halted Sunday, June 1, 2008   8:17:26.273 pm
> Abend 1 on P01: Server-5.70.07: Page Fault Processor Exception (Error
> code 00000000)
> 
> Registers:
>     CS = 0008 DS = 0023 ES = 0023 FS = 0023 GS = 0023 SS = 0010
>     EAX = 00000001 EBX = 2C91E1A8 ECX = 928943DC EDX = 00000020
>     ESI = 898E97A4 EDI = 00000000 EBP = 928943DC ESP = 8A1D3F74
>     EIP = 918807A8 FLAGS = 00010002
>     918807A8 8B07           MOV     EAX, [EDI]=?
>     EIP in ETHERTSM.NLM at code start +000007A8h
>     Access Location: 0x00000000
> 
> The violation occurred while processing the following instruction:
> 918807A8 8B07           MOV     EAX, [EDI]
> 918807AA 8945A0         MOV     [EBP-60], EAX
> 918807AD 83C708         ADD     EDI, 00000008
> 918807B0 8D4630         LEA     EAX, [ESI+30]
> 918807B3 894710         MOV     [EDI+10], EAX
> 918807B6 897730         MOV     [EDI+30], ESI
> 918807B9 897746         MOV     [EDI+46], ESI
> 918807BC 66F743220010   TEST    word ptr [EBX+22], 1000
> 918807C2 0F8407000000   JZ      918807CF
> 918807C8 E8F3000000     CALL    918808C0
> 
> 
> 
> Running process: Processor 1: IDLE Thread Process
> Thread Owned by NLM: SERVER.NLM
> Stack pointer: 8A1D3FB8
> OS Stack limit: 8A1D2000
> CPU 1 (Thread 8A1D1480) is in a NO SLEEP state
> Scheduling priority: 67371008
> Wait state: 3031111  Intermedidate Goto READY
> Stack: 8975A40B  (LSL.NLM|LSLSMPSendProcedure+EB)
>        --00000001  (LOADER.NLM|KernelAddressSpace+1)
>        --89B1A524  ?
>        -89762790  (LSL.NLM|AdapterLockTable+20)
>        --00000000  (LOADER.NLM|KernelAddressSpace+0)
>        --00000000  (LOADER.NLM|KernelAddressSpace+0)
>        --00000001  (LOADER.NLM|KernelAddressSpace+1)
>        --00000000  (LOADER.NLM|KernelAddressSpace+0)
>        0036B3D8  (SERVER.NLM|DirectCallPollProcedures+18)
>        --00000000  (LOADER.NLM|KernelAddressSpace+0)
>        002118FC  (SERVER.NLM|CallRegisteredPollingRoutines+44)
>        --00000000  (LOADER.NLM|KernelAddressSpace+0)
>        --00000000  (LOADER.NLM|KernelAddressSpace+0)
>        --00000108  (LOADER.NLM|KernelAddressSpace+108)
>        0022EA51  (SERVER.NLM|MpkSystemWork+61)
>        --00000000  (LOADER.NLM|KernelAddressSpace+0)
> 
> <snip a bunch more of this>
> The CPU encountered a problem executing code in ETHERTSM.NLM.  The
> problem may be in that module or in data passed to that module by a
> process owned by SERVER.NLM
> 
> 
> Peter

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From petervl at gmail.com  Mon Jun  2 13:02:56 2008
From: petervl at gmail.com (Peter Van Lone)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 07:02:56 -0500
Subject: sigh -- abend log -- opinions?
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On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 1:14 AM, Tim Heywood <tim at nds8.co.uk> wrote:
> BX2.LAN 3.70
>

Tim --

to put a few more words into it:

you think the culprit is the LAN driver? That does happen to be the
driver and version that is loaded -- how did you come to know that? Is
there a known issue with that driver version?

>From what I understand, the admin has recently run the most recent
Proliant Support Pack, so ... this must be the most recent available
version of this file? (Though I will check to be sure he has done that
...)

Peter

From toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee  Mon Jun  2 13:40:57 2008
From: toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee (Toomas Aas)
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 15:40:57 +0300
Subject: sigh -- abend log -- opinions?
In-Reply-To: <68b791330806020502t3363ac37g6e93db9a4fc5458b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <68b791330806012003r220d03f0he56154679862cc1f@mail.gmail.com>	<48439DE2020000BB0008FF1D@mail2.nds8.com>
	<68b791330806020502t3363ac37g6e93db9a4fc5458b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4843EA59.8010904@raad.tartu.ee>

Peter Van Lone wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 1:14 AM, Tim Heywood <tim at nds8.co.uk> wrote:
>> BX2.LAN 3.70
>>
> 
> you think the culprit is the LAN driver? That does happen to be the
> driver and version that is loaded -- how did you come to know that? Is
> there a known issue with that driver version?

FWIW, I also had abends after updating BX2.LAN to 3.70. The abend logs that 
I kept are similar to yours (EIP in ETHERTSM.NLM at code start +000007A8h
). After going back to BX2 ver 3.41 the abends ceased.

-- 
Toomas Aas

From petervl at gmail.com  Mon Jun  2 14:07:07 2008
From: petervl at gmail.com (Peter Van Lone)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 08:07:07 -0500
Subject: sigh -- abend log -- opinions?
In-Reply-To: <4843EA59.8010904@raad.tartu.ee>
References: <68b791330806012003r220d03f0he56154679862cc1f@mail.gmail.com>
	<48439DE2020000BB0008FF1D@mail2.nds8.com>
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	<4843EA59.8010904@raad.tartu.ee>
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OK, I will suggest back-dating that module as a test. Then, if this
abend goes away, he can test re-adding the second processor to confirm
whether that was an issue in any of the first series of abends.

Thnx ...

Peter

On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 7:40 AM, Toomas Aas <toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee> wrote:
> Peter Van Lone wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 1:14 AM, Tim Heywood <tim at nds8.co.uk> wrote:
>>> BX2.LAN 3.70
>>>
>>
>> you think the culprit is the LAN driver? That does happen to be the
>> driver and version that is loaded -- how did you come to know that? Is
>> there a known issue with that driver version?
>
> FWIW, I also had abends after updating BX2.LAN to 3.70. The abend logs that
> I kept are similar to yours (EIP in ETHERTSM.NLM at code start +000007A8h
> ). After going back to BX2 ver 3.41 the abends ceased.
>
> --
> Toomas Aas
> _______________________________________________
> Novell mailing list
> Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
> http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell
>



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forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being,
evolved."

Charles Darwin
The Origin of Species


http://xkcd.com/167/

www.the-brights.net

From petervl at gmail.com  Mon Jun  2 14:13:37 2008
From: petervl at gmail.com (Peter Van Lone)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 08:13:37 -0500
Subject: sigh -- abend log -- opinions?
In-Reply-To: <4843EA59.8010904@raad.tartu.ee>
References: <68b791330806012003r220d03f0he56154679862cc1f@mail.gmail.com>
	<48439DE2020000BB0008FF1D@mail2.nds8.com>
	<68b791330806020502t3363ac37g6e93db9a4fc5458b@mail.gmail.com>
	<4843EA59.8010904@raad.tartu.ee>
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One more thing ... what is the story with acpi on netware? For a while
several years ago (nw5.0/5.1), it seemed to be the cause of lots of
problems. Recently I have begun to suspect it again ... anyone else
suspecting the same thing?

Peter

On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 7:40 AM, Toomas Aas <toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee> wrote:
> Peter Van Lone wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 1:14 AM, Tim Heywood <tim at nds8.co.uk> wrote:
>>> BX2.LAN 3.70
>>>
>>
>> you think the culprit is the LAN driver? That does happen to be the
>> driver and version that is loaded -- how did you come to know that? Is
>> there a known issue with that driver version?
>
> FWIW, I also had abends after updating BX2.LAN to 3.70. The abend logs that
> I kept are similar to yours (EIP in ETHERTSM.NLM at code start +000007A8h
> ). After going back to BX2 ver 3.41 the abends ceased.
>
> --
> Toomas Aas
> _______________________________________________
> Novell mailing list
> Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
> http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell
>



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"There is a grandeur in this view of life, a life in which endless
forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being,
evolved."

Charles Darwin
The Origin of Species


http://xkcd.com/167/

www.the-brights.net

From toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee  Mon Jun  2 14:29:44 2008
From: toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee (Toomas Aas)
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 16:29:44 +0300
Subject: sigh -- abend log -- opinions?
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Peter Van Lone wrote:

> One more thing ... what is the story with acpi on netware? For a while
> several years ago (nw5.0/5.1), it seemed to be the cause of lots of
> problems. Recently I have begun to suspect it again ... anyone else
> suspecting the same thing?

My observations from the same server where I unsuccessfully tried BX2.LAN 
ver 3.70.

This is IBM System x3550 machine with quad core Xeon CPU. I initially 
installed NW65 from SP7 overlay CDs. This put ACPIDRV.PSM into startup.ncf.

Later I wiped this install and made new install from SP5 overlay CDs, then 
applied SP7. This way I ended up with MPS14.PSM in startup.ndf. Before 
finally putting the machine into production, I manually replaced MPS14 with 
ACPIDRV.

During its first couple of days in production, the machine had various 
abends. I replaced ACPIDRV.PSM with MPS14.PSM, and the machine has been 
stable since, except the problem with BX2.LAN.

-- 
Toomas Aas

From budthegrey at gmail.com  Mon Jun  2 17:27:56 2008
From: budthegrey at gmail.com (Bud Durland)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 12:27:56 -0400
Subject: Tcopy error message
In-Reply-To: <48433E6E.14489.D8AE9F7@colin.connolly.phon.ox.ac.uk>
References: <48433E6E.14489.D8AE9F7@colin.connolly.phon.ox.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <509526700806020927u3ab76114o8d1b9fda560571f6@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 7:27 PM, Colin Connolly
<colin.connolly at phon.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
> I need to copy the trustee rights on a folder & subdirs on an old NW5.1 server onto a copy of
> the same folder structure on a NW6.5 server (different tree). I used the SCMT to migrate the
> data, but SCMT couldn't keep the trustee rights as the IDs are different on each user/group
> object on the new tree.

I suspect the tcopy is failing for the same reason.

You might want to try TRUSTBAR.NLM.  IIRC, it should be on the NetWare
CD.  During backup, TRUSTBAR creates an XML file with the folder
names, along with user/group names & rights to the folders.  I used it
a few years back to migrate a 4.x server to 6.0.  The XML is pretty
much plain text, which made editing for renamed volumes and folders
pretty easy.  I ran TRUSTBAR (backup) on the source server, used NCOPY
to move data from one to the other,  then TRUSTBAR (restore) to apply
the rights.


-- 
----------------------------------------------------------
I'm in my own little world. But that's OK,
because they all know me here.

From tim at nds8.co.uk  Mon Jun  2 21:23:21 2008
From: tim at nds8.co.uk (Tim Heywood)
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 21:23:21 +0100
Subject: sigh -- abend log -- opinions?
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Ah, magic  :-)

We have had a bunch of DL380G5's that have caused similar abends - linked with the SP7 being applied and Ethertsm.nlm having been stable for a long time - there was only one choice...

As for ACPI - been stable really since NW6 SP2 

HTH

T

>>> On 02 June 2008 at 13:02, "Peter Van Lone" <petervl at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 1:14 AM, Tim Heywood <tim at nds8.co.uk> wrote:
>> BX2.LAN 3.70
>>
> 
> Tim --
> 
> to put a few more words into it:
> 
> you think the culprit is the LAN driver? That does happen to be the
> driver and version that is loaded -- how did you come to know that? Is
> there a known issue with that driver version?
> 
>>From what I understand, the admin has recently run the most recent
> Proliant Support Pack, so ... this must be the most recent available
> version of this file? (Though I will check to be sure he has done that
> ...)
> 
> Peter
> _______________________________________________
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> http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell

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From HPfeil at uca.edu  Thu Jun  5 21:19:53 2008
From: HPfeil at uca.edu (Hans Pfeil)
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 15:19:53 -0500
Subject: Xen Virtualization Nic's
Message-ID: <48480419.6010.00BD.0@uca.edu>

Hey all, we are going to run SLES10.1 with Xen Virtualization.  Since I'm a newbie to the Linux world I'm looking for some help in regards to dedicating my virtual servers to different NIC's.  So, I would like virtual server A to use NIC1 and virtual server B to use NIC2 and so on.  I'm having a devil of a time figuring this out.  Any documents out there that could help me out?  Or a forum go to?

Thanks all,
Hans



From alandpearson at yahoo.com  Thu Jun  5 23:33:17 2008
From: alandpearson at yahoo.com (Alan Pearson)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 23:33:17 +0100
Subject: Xen Virtualization Nic's
In-Reply-To: <48480419.6010.00BD.0@uca.edu>
References: <48480419.6010.00BD.0@uca.edu>
Message-ID: <0CB464F4-9583-4F52-8E69-F1147C12AAD3@yahoo.com>

Hey Hans

We've done this on RHEL 4.
You need to look at /etc/xen/scripts/network-bridge

Basically all xen does is setup a network bridge, join the physical  
card to it, and join the 'virtual' domU cards to it as well

For multi-honed boxes, you simply create another bridge and tell the  
'virtual' (/etc/xen/xm-your-virtual-host) to use the other bridge

Google xen multi-honed (or is it multi-homed !)  you'll turn up a lot  
of info.

---
AlanP



On 5 Jun 2008, at 21:19, Hans Pfeil wrote:

> Hey all, we are going to run SLES10.1 with Xen Virtualization.   
> Since I'm a newbie to the Linux world I'm looking for some help in  
> regards to dedicating my virtual servers to different NIC's.  So, I  
> would like virtual server A to use NIC1 and virtual server B to use  
> NIC2 and so on.  I'm having a devil of a time figuring this out.   
> Any documents out there that could help me out?  Or a forum go to?
>
> Thanks all,
> Hans
>
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From MollardM at mbc.qld.edu.au  Fri Jun  6 06:09:23 2008
From: MollardM at mbc.qld.edu.au (Michael Mollard)
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 15:09:23 +1000
Subject: ZEN7 and McAfee?
Message-ID: <48495321.E927.0018.0@mbc.qld.edu.au>

Hi all,
We run Zen7SP1 here, and McAfee VirusScan Enterprise 8.5i.  I am trying to use ZEN Inventory (the basic part that comes with the Zen Desktop Management stuff).  Trouble is that ZFDInventory kicks McAfee realtime scanner (McShield) into overdrive.  I did have Inventory running at startup, which caused the bootup to take many minutes which was unacceptable.  I have made the Inventory scan 'Hardware only' and pushed the time to 'random' rather than at start up, but the virus scanner still maxes out the processor when it runs.

Has anyone else encountered a clash between ZEN Inventory and their virus software?  Any thoughts or solutions?

Cheers,


Michael Mollard
Network Administrator
Moreton Bay College
mollardm at mbc.qld.edu.au
http://www.mbc.qld.edu.au
Ph: (Direct) 07 3907 5712 / (Mob) 0417 631 801 
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From cmangiarelli at gmail.com  Fri Jun  6 16:46:20 2008
From: cmangiarelli at gmail.com (Christopher Mangiarelli)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 11:46:20 -0400
Subject: Citrix and iPrint Question
Message-ID: <f47566ff0806060846i3deda4a4nc7aceb15eb514778@mail.gmail.com>

Anybody else implementing iPrint in a Citrix environment?  Just wondering if
an automatic L: drive mapping stating LPT1 on Tsclient is normal?  It
doesn't appear to be hurting anything and if we click on it, we get the
standard "drive mapping is currently not available" message.  Seems weird to
see a drive mapping to an LPT port, but we are wondering if its something
that iPrint does in a Citrix environment.  It doesn't seem to hurt anything
and printing is working.  Normal users do not see the mapping, only admin
type / power users see it (so it must also be a rights issue hiding it for
normal users).

iPrint running on NW65SP6.  iPrint client v4.34.  Citrix XENapp server.

-- 
Christopher Mangiarelli
cmangiarelli at gmail.com

From joea at j4computers.com  Fri Jun  6 19:26:24 2008
From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com)
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 14:26:24 -0400
Subject: NRM OES linux, server health
Message-ID: <48494910020000850005E1A4@FS-LIN-OES>

In NRM, on OES (L), server health, how can one change alert levels?  How can one change the items monitored?

Can't?  Thought so.

From MollardM at mbc.qld.edu.au  Mon Jun  9 23:32:35 2008
From: MollardM at mbc.qld.edu.au (Michael Mollard)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:32:35 +1000
Subject: ZEN7 and load order?
Message-ID: <484E3C65.E927.0018.0@mbc.qld.edu.au>

Hi,
We run ZEN7 Desktop Management here, and we load both NalWin, and NALView at startup (via Login Script).  Is there a preferred method/order for loading them?  If I load NalWin first, does NalView know that NalWin is already reading eDirectory for Application objects, or does it duplicate the process?  Or should I wait (somehow) till NalWin is finished before loading NalView?
Just wondering. I'm trying to optimise the initial login times.

Thanks.

Michael Mollard
Network Administrator
Moreton Bay College
mollardm at mbc.qld.edu.au
http://www.mbc.qld.edu.au
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From MollardM at mbc.qld.edu.au  Wed Jun 11 03:26:28 2008
From: MollardM at mbc.qld.edu.au (Michael Mollard)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:26:28 +1000
Subject: ZEN7 - zwsreg on name change?
Message-ID: <484FC473.E927.0018.0@mbc.qld.edu.au>

Hi all,
I have a bunch of machines that have random machine names, and random (dhcp) IP addresses.  They are registered in eDirectory with these random names.
I'm using WSNAME.EXE to give the machines new (meaningful) names, which seems to be working fine.  However, since the machines are already registered in eDirectory, they don't want to automatically re-register when the name of the PC changes.

Is there a way I can re-zwsreg them, without redoing every system in the college, since that would presumably mean I'd have to re-assign groups etc.  Also, I will need to do this multiple times as I go, so I really only want to deregister and re-register the ones who have a new (different) name.

Thanks.



Michael Mollard
Network Administrator
Moreton Bay College
mollardm at mbc.qld.edu.au
http://www.mbc.qld.edu.au
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From steadman at lagnaf.com  Thu Jun 12 01:11:47 2008
From: steadman at lagnaf.com (Steadman)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:11:47 -0600
Subject: ZEN7 - zwsreg on name change?
In-Reply-To: <484FC473.E927.0018.0@mbc.qld.edu.au>
References: <484FC473.E927.0018.0@mbc.qld.edu.au>
Message-ID: <57E7AFF96DAD7E4CAD5DCEFE76230C581B2CB5@sbs-01.Lagnaf.com>

Michael,

Using a NAL object or Login Script (we have done this both ways)

Run "zwsreg -unreg" then "zwsreg" (both without the quotes)

This will remove the current registered information in the registry of
the machine and allow them to register the new name in eDir.

The only gotcha with this is that depending on your import policies,
which container the objects will import into.

hth
Kevin

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From: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Michael
Mollard
Sent: June-10-08 8:26 PM
To: novellschools at lists.redlands.qld.edu.au; Novell LAN Interest Group
Subject: ZEN7 - zwsreg on name change?

Hi all,
I have a bunch of machines that have random machine names, and random
(dhcp) IP addresses.  They are registered in eDirectory with these
random names.
I'm using WSNAME.EXE to give the machines new (meaningful) names, which
seems to be working fine.  However, since the machines are already
registered in eDirectory, they don't want to automatically re-register
when the name of the PC changes.

Is there a way I can re-zwsreg them, without redoing every system in the
college, since that would presumably mean I'd have to re-assign groups
etc.  Also, I will need to do this multiple times as I go, so I really
only want to deregister and re-register the ones who have a new
(different) name.

Thanks.



Michael Mollard
Network Administrator
Moreton Bay College
mollardm at mbc.qld.edu.au
http://www.mbc.qld.edu.au
Ph: (Direct) 07 3907 5712 / (Mob) 0417 631 801 
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From pjc9001 at NYP.ORG  Thu Jun 12 15:14:50 2008
From: pjc9001 at NYP.ORG (Peter J. Cox)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:14:50 -0400
Subject: Block a user's login to a particular workstation
Message-ID: <48512F5A.9070505@nyp.org>

This is probably a stupid question, it's just that none of us here can 
answer find an answer to it.
We need to block a certain user account from logging into a few specific 
workstations but the
account must be able to login to the others (we're looking to block 
access to about 10 workstations out
of a 1000). When we've looked all we've found are articles to block ALL 
access except to a specific
list (which in this case would be about 990). Plus as workstations are 
added they would also have to be
 added to the list. I KNOW it can't be this hard but for the life of me 
neither I nor any of the others here
can find the solution. Does anyone mind pointing us in the right direction?

-- 
If there are any questions or problems
please contact me.
_______________________
Peter J. Cox
Network Manager, IT
NY Methodist Hospital
718-780-3250 Office
718-780-5993 HelpDesk




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From Steven.Aitken at nds8.co.uk  Thu Jun 12 15:22:29 2008
From: Steven.Aitken at nds8.co.uk (Steven Aitken)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:22:29 +0100
Subject: Block a user's login to a particular workstation
In-Reply-To: <48513F350200000700014248@mail2.nds8.com>
References: <48513F350200000700014245@mail2.nds8.com>
	<48513F350200000700014248@mail2.nds8.com>
Message-ID: <48513F350200000700014248@mail2.nds8.com>

I've seen this done before by adding the user to a specific deny group, either with DLU or AD and specifying that members are not allowed to logon locally, by editing the machines local security settings.

Might be a bit rusty here, so please take this as a pointer rather than an answer!

Cheers,

Steve  
-----Original Message----- 
From: "Peter J. Cox" <pjc9001 at NYP.ORG> 
To: Novell LAN Interest Group <novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk> 
 
Sent: 12/06/2008 15:14:50 
Subject: Block a user's login to a particular workstation 
 
This is probably a stupid question, it's just that none of us here can  
answer find an answer to it. 
We need to block a certain user account from logging into a few specific  
workstations but the 
account must be able to login to the others (we're looking to block  
access to about 10 workstations out 
of a 1000). When we've looked all we've found are articles to block ALL  
access except to a specific 
list (which in this case would be about 990). Plus as workstations are  
added they would also have to be 
 added to the list. I KNOW it can't be this hard but for the life of me  
neither I nor any of the others here 
can find the solution. Does anyone mind pointing us in the right direction? 
 
--  
If there are any questions or problems 
please contact me. 
_______________________ 
Peter J. Cox 
Network Manager, IT 
NY Methodist Hospital 
718-780-3250 Office 
718-780-5993 HelpDesk 
 
 
 
 
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From alan at canisius.edu  Thu Jun 12 15:24:30 2008
From: alan at canisius.edu (Alan D Weitzsacker)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:24:30 -0400
Subject: Block a user's login to a particular workstation
In-Reply-To: <48512F5A.9070505@nyp.org>
References: <48512F5A.9070505@nyp.org>
Message-ID: <4851319E.3050305@canisius.edu>

Address restrictions probably would be unusable unless these machines 
are on separate subnets. If subnetted, I think wildcards can be used in 
address restrictions.

Another option would be to have an environment variable present on the 
machines to restrict, then test for this in the OU login script that is 
relevant (to prevent tampering by the user you wish to block). If the 
variable is present and the username is on the restricted "list" (could 
use a group for this), then exit to an app that displays some message 
that access is restricted and reboot the PC. If done during login, this 
should prevent workarounds by the user to be restricted.

I haven't tried this, but this probably would be one idea on how to do 
this. 

    --alan

Peter J. Cox wrote:
> This is probably a stupid question, it's just that none of us here can 
> answer find an answer to it.
> We need to block a certain user account from logging into a few 
> specific workstations but the
> account must be able to login to the others (we're looking to block 
> access to about 10 workstations out
> of a 1000). When we've looked all we've found are articles to block 
> ALL access except to a specific
> list (which in this case would be about 990). Plus as workstations are 
> added they would also have to be
> added to the list. I KNOW it can't be this hard but for the life of me 
> neither I nor any of the others here
> can find the solution. Does anyone mind pointing us in the right 
> direction?
>
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From MGosselin at piercelaw.edu  Fri Jun 13 14:22:24 2008
From: MGosselin at piercelaw.edu (Marc Gosselin)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:22:24 -0400
Subject: adding a SAN volume
Message-ID: <48523C4D.B014.0036.0@piercelaw.edu>

I've got a nw6.5 sp6 netware server with a volume sitting on a SAN using iscsi. I set this up last year and forgot what I did to make it work, I didn't write it down or enter the commands into the autoexec.ncf file. I just had to reboot the server after 255 days and now that volume won't come up. I did the iscsinit connect a.b.c.d. target_name command and got no errors but can't figure out where to go from here. Help please and I promise to document it this time!
 
Thanks,
Marc

From A.Orde at leedsmet.ac.uk  Fri Jun 13 14:41:21 2008
From: A.Orde at leedsmet.ac.uk (Orde, Angus)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:41:21 +0100
Subject: adding a SAN volume
References: <48523C4D.B014.0036.0@piercelaw.edu>
Message-ID: <93ED589E60BA254F97435FE6C97F2C670217CB04@leedsmet-exch1.leedsmet.ac.uk>

Marc,

I have only played around with this, but apart from running ION.NCF
first, that looks like it should be fine. Just mount your volumes.

If that is not it, what I found more directly manageable is to do the
same thing from NoRM instead.
You run ION.NCF first, as before, then you should find "Storage
Services" with "iSCSI Services" at the bottom of your NoRM tasks.

You may have security turned on?
Or not remembered the Target Name (case-sensitive) properly?

I hope that helps.

Cheers,

Angus
========
Angus Orde
Development Leader (Comms & Infrastructure)
Computing Services (IMTS)
Leeds Metropolitan University
Leeds LS1 3HE
Tel: 0113 8123840
-----Original Message-----
From: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Marc Gosselin
Sent: 13 June 2008 14:22
To: Novell list
Subject: adding a SAN volume

I've got a nw6.5 sp6 netware server with a volume sitting on a SAN using
iscsi. I set this up last year and forgot what I did to make it work, I
didn't write it down or enter the commands into the autoexec.ncf file. I
just had to reboot the server after 255 days and now that volume won't
come up. I did the iscsinit connect a.b.c.d. target_name command and got
no errors but can't figure out where to go from here. Help please and I
promise to document it this time!
 
Thanks,
Marc
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From MGosselin at piercelaw.edu  Fri Jun 13 14:58:27 2008
From: MGosselin at piercelaw.edu (Marc Gosselin)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:58:27 -0400
Subject: adding a SAN volume
In-Reply-To: <93ED589E60BA254F97435FE6C97F2C670217CB04@leedsmet-exch1.leedsmet.ac.uk>
References: <48523C4D.B014.0036.0@piercelaw.edu>
	<93ED589E60BA254F97435FE6C97F2C670217CB04@leedsmet-exch1.leedsmet.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <485244C1.B014.0036.0@piercelaw.edu>

Angus:
 
Thanks for you reply. You hit the nail on the head. I totally forgot to run the ion.ncf file. I disconnected the scsinit command , ran ion the the scsinit connect command and the mounted the volume. All is well now. My autoexec file did have these lines of code but for some reason did not run them. I've got to look into this more.
 
Thanks again.
Marc

>>> "Orde, Angus" <A.Orde at leedsmet.ac.uk> 6/13/2008 9:41 AM >>>
Marc,

I have only played around with this, but apart from running ION.NCF
first, that looks like it should be fine. Just mount your volumes.

If that is not it, what I found more directly manageable is to do the
same thing from NoRM instead.
You run ION.NCF first, as before, then you should find "Storage
Services" with "iSCSI Services" at the bottom of your NoRM tasks.

You may have security turned on?
Or not remembered the Target Name (case-sensitive) properly?

I hope that helps.

Cheers,

Angus
========
Angus Orde
Development Leader (Comms & Infrastructure)
Computing Services (IMTS)
Leeds Metropolitan University
Leeds LS1 3HE
Tel: 0113 8123840
-----Original Message-----
From: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk 
[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Marc Gosselin
Sent: 13 June 2008 14:22
To: Novell list
Subject: adding a SAN volume

I've got a nw6.5 sp6 netware server with a volume sitting on a SAN using
iscsi. I set this up last year and forgot what I did to make it work, I
didn't write it down or enter the commands into the autoexec.ncf file. I
just had to reboot the server after 255 days and now that volume won't
come up. I did the iscsinit connect a.b.c.d. target_name command and got
no errors but can't figure out where to go from here. Help please and I
promise to document it this time!

Thanks,
Marc
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From jgroetsema at pacific.edu  Fri Jun 13 15:58:04 2008
From: jgroetsema at pacific.edu (Jeff Groetsema)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 07:58:04 -0700
Subject: adding a SAN volume
In-Reply-To: <485244C1.B014.0036.0@piercelaw.edu>
Message-ID: <056970BDF175F64FA6F86DF6FC933270010F2FD7@EXVS1.stk.pacific.edu>

Marc,

It may be that you need a delay before and/or between these commands.

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Marc Gosselin
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 6:58 AM
To: Novell LAN Interest Group
Subject: RE: adding a SAN volume

Angus:
 
Thanks for you reply. You hit the nail on the head. I totally forgot to
run the ion.ncf file. I disconnected the scsinit command , ran ion the
the scsinit connect command and the mounted the volume. All is well now.
My autoexec file did have these lines of code but for some reason did
not run them. I've got to look into this more.
 
Thanks again.
Marc

>>> "Orde, Angus" <A.Orde at leedsmet.ac.uk> 6/13/2008 9:41 AM >>>
Marc,

I have only played around with this, but apart from running ION.NCF
first, that looks like it should be fine. Just mount your volumes.

If that is not it, what I found more directly manageable is to do the
same thing from NoRM instead.
You run ION.NCF first, as before, then you should find "Storage
Services" with "iSCSI Services" at the bottom of your NoRM tasks.

You may have security turned on?
Or not remembered the Target Name (case-sensitive) properly?

I hope that helps.

Cheers,

Angus
========
Angus Orde
Development Leader (Comms & Infrastructure)
Computing Services (IMTS)
Leeds Metropolitan University
Leeds LS1 3HE
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From: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk 
[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Marc Gosselin
Sent: 13 June 2008 14:22
To: Novell list
Subject: adding a SAN volume

I've got a nw6.5 sp6 netware server with a volume sitting on a SAN using
iscsi. I set this up last year and forgot what I did to make it work, I
didn't write it down or enter the commands into the autoexec.ncf file. I
just had to reboot the server after 255 days and now that volume won't
come up. I did the iscsinit connect a.b.c.d. target_name command and got
no errors but can't figure out where to go from here. Help please and I
promise to document it this time!

Thanks,
Marc
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From joea at j4computers.com  Fri Jun 13 16:57:26 2008
From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:57:26 -0400
Subject: Yast conflict after ss205_SLAH
Message-ID: <485260A6020000850005E243@FS-LIN-OES>

After building a new OES1 server and applying update ss205_SLAH, get this when opening YAST 

NOVLpkia 2.7.9-1 conflict
    Conflict Resolution:
        ( ) Do Not Set NOVLpkia to Protected
        ( ) Ignore Conflict and Risk System Inconsistencies

I am guessing this is due to some database not being update properly.  I did the updates by saying yast -i rpmname, for all the updates in sequence.  I probably should have simply done them using rpm directly, but . . .

Who knows how to clear this?

joe a.



From joea at j4computers.com  Fri Jun 13 17:12:12 2008
From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 12:12:12 -0400
Subject: Yast conflict after ss205_SLAH
Message-ID: <4852641C020000850005E247@FS-LIN-OES>

Never mind, running rpm install showed lots of conflicts, etc.

Me reading the readme, find, run install script.  Me do this.  Me fix.   Me happy.

joe a.

>>> "joea at j4computers.com" <joea at j4computers.com> 06/13/08 12:01 PM >>>
After building a new OES1 server and applying update ss205_SLAH, get this when opening YAST 

NOVLpkia 2.7.9-1 conflict
    Conflict Resolution:
        ( ) Do Not Set NOVLpkia to Protected
        ( ) Ignore Conflict and Risk System Inconsistencies

I am guessing this is due to some database not being update properly.  I did the updates by saying yast -i rpmname, for all the updates in sequence.  I probably should have simply done them using rpm directly, but . . .

Who knows how to clear this?

joe a.


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From lists at shuters.net  Mon Jun 16 12:29:40 2008
From: lists at shuters.net (Matthew Shuter)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 07:29:40 -0400
Subject: Block a user's login to a particular workstation
In-Reply-To: <48512F5A.9070505@nyp.org>
References: <48512F5A.9070505@nyp.org>
Message-ID: <48564EA4.2010303@shuters.net>

say the subnet is 10.100.x.x, with your dhcp range 10.100.5.0 to 
10.100.10.254
    say you have 500 machines, you should never be using the 10.100.10.x 
ips.
    create ip assignments for those machines to get one of the 
10.100.10.x addresses, then setup the user to use 10.100.5.x to 10.100.9.x
       thus, blocking out any machine that gets a 10.100.10.x address

Peter J. Cox wrote:
> This is probably a stupid question, it's just that none of us here can 
> answer find an answer to it.
> We need to block a certain user account from logging into a few 
> specific workstations but the
> account must be able to login to the others (we're looking to block 
> access to about 10 workstations out
> of a 1000). When we've looked all we've found are articles to block 
> ALL access except to a specific
> list (which in this case would be about 990). Plus as workstations are 
> added they would also have to be
> added to the list. I KNOW it can't be this hard but for the life of me 
> neither I nor any of the others here
> can find the solution. Does anyone mind pointing us in the right 
> direction?
>
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From dmoon at peru.k12.in.us  Tue Jun 17 14:20:44 2008
From: dmoon at peru.k12.in.us (Dave Moon)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 09:20:44 -0400
Subject: mysql question
Message-ID: <485781EB.44EC.00EB.0@peru.k12.in.us>

We have installed mysql on a netware 6.5 server.  when we run mysql_install_db it doesn't actually create a database.

Can anyone shed any light on what to do.  we are at a loss.

Thanks for the help

Dave

Dave Moon A+
Network Technologist
Peru Community Schools
401 N. Broadway
Peru, IN 46970
765-473-3081
fax 765-472-5129



From marcus at myrealbox.com  Tue Jun 17 14:27:39 2008
From: marcus at myrealbox.com (Marcus Williamson)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:27:39 +0200
Subject: mysql question
In-Reply-To: <485781EB.44EC.00EB.0@peru.k12.in.us>
References: <485781EB.44EC.00EB.0@peru.k12.in.us>
Message-ID: <4tef54572j55c6rktkdkh68ggbmpr2f7l8@4ax.com>


On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 09:20:44 -0400, you wrote:

>We have installed mysql on a netware 6.5 server.  when we run mysql_install_db it doesn't actually create a database.

Does this help?

http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=30129

regards
Marcus Williamson
Connectotel
http://www.connectotel.com/


From marcus at myrealbox.com  Tue Jun 17 14:27:39 2008
From: marcus at myrealbox.com (Marcus Williamson)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:27:39 +0200
Subject: mysql question
In-Reply-To: <485781EB.44EC.00EB.0@peru.k12.in.us>
References: <485781EB.44EC.00EB.0@peru.k12.in.us>
Message-ID: <4tef54572j55c6rktkdkh68ggbmpr2f7l8@4ax.com>


On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 09:20:44 -0400, you wrote:

>We have installed mysql on a netware 6.5 server.  when we run mysql_install_db it doesn't actually create a database.

Does this help?

http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=30129

regards
Marcus Williamson
Connectotel
http://www.connectotel.com/


From dmoon at peru.k12.in.us  Tue Jun 17 14:47:20 2008
From: dmoon at peru.k12.in.us (Dave Moon)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 09:47:20 -0400
Subject: mysql question
In-Reply-To: <4tef54572j55c6rktkdkh68ggbmpr2f7l8@4ax.com>
References: <485781EB.44EC.00EB.0@peru.k12.in.us>
	<4tef54572j55c6rktkdkh68ggbmpr2f7l8@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <48578827.44EC.00EB.0@peru.k12.in.us>

Thanks for the help.  I think that will solve the issue.

Dave

Dave Moon A+
Network Technologist
Peru Community Schools
401 N. Broadway
Peru, IN 46970
765-473-3081
fax 765-472-5129


>>> Marcus Williamson <marcus at myrealbox.com> 6/17/2008 9:27 am >>>

On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 09:20:44 -0400, you wrote:

>We have installed mysql on a netware 6.5 server.  when we run mysql_install_db it doesn't actually create a database.

Does this help?

http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=30129 

regards
Marcus Williamson
Connectotel
http://www.connectotel.com/ 

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From dmoon at peru.k12.in.us  Tue Jun 17 14:47:20 2008
From: dmoon at peru.k12.in.us (Dave Moon)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 09:47:20 -0400
Subject: mysql question
In-Reply-To: <4tef54572j55c6rktkdkh68ggbmpr2f7l8@4ax.com>
References: <485781EB.44EC.00EB.0@peru.k12.in.us>
	<4tef54572j55c6rktkdkh68ggbmpr2f7l8@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <48578827.44EC.00EB.0@peru.k12.in.us>

Thanks for the help.  I think that will solve the issue.

Dave

Dave Moon A+
Network Technologist
Peru Community Schools
401 N. Broadway
Peru, IN 46970
765-473-3081
fax 765-472-5129


>>> Marcus Williamson <marcus at myrealbox.com> 6/17/2008 9:27 am >>>

On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 09:20:44 -0400, you wrote:

>We have installed mysql on a netware 6.5 server.  when we run mysql_install_db it doesn't actually create a database.

Does this help?

http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=30129 

regards
Marcus Williamson
Connectotel
http://www.connectotel.com/ 

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From stolito at salud.unm.edu  Wed Jun 18 16:49:09 2008
From: stolito at salud.unm.edu (Stephen Tolito)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:49:09 -0600
Subject: user rights to home lose
Message-ID: <4858DA4D.DE96.00A5.0@salud.unm.edu>

I have several users that lost access to their home directory. 
What is strange is nds & windows exploder have rights set correctly.
It is happening on several netware servers, to a few users and only home directories.
 
Has anyone seen this? Does anyone know what may have caused this to happen?
 
We have run homes, which resolves the issue for only a few days, then it is back with different users.
 
Steve
 
Stephen Tolito
LAN Administrator
Health Sciences Library and Informatics Center
MS09 5100
1 University of New Mexico
Albuquerque NM 87131-0001
Tel # : 505-272-5097
Fax # : 505-272-8893
stolito at salud.unm.edu 

From James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com  Wed Jun 18 16:59:36 2008
From: James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com (James Taylor)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:59:36 -0400
Subject: user rights to home lose
In-Reply-To: <4858F8A2.9252.0075.1@eastcobbgroup.com>
References: <4858F8A2.9252.0075.1@eastcobbgroup.com>
Message-ID: <4858F8A8020000750002C1EC@inet.eastcobbgroup.com>

I have seen similar issues when time was out of sync.
-jt 
 

James Taylor
The East Cobb Group, Inc.
678-697-9420
james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com
http://www.eastcobbgroup.com








>>> "Stephen Tolito" <stolito at salud.unm.edu> 6/18/2008 11:49 AM >>> 
I have several users that lost access to their home directory. 
What is strange is nds & windows exploder have rights set correctly.
It is happening on several netware servers, to a few users and only home directories.
 
Has anyone seen this? Does anyone know what may have caused this to happen?
 
We have run homes, which resolves the issue for only a few days, then it is back with different users.
 
Steve
 
Stephen Tolito
LAN Administrator
Health Sciences Library and Informatics Center
MS09 5100
1 University of New Mexico
Albuquerque NM 87131-0001
Tel # : 505-272-5097
Fax # : 505-272-8893
stolito at salud.unm.edu 
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From phuk.yu2007 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 18 17:36:58 2008
From: phuk.yu2007 at gmail.com (Phuk Xiao Yu)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:36:58 -0400
Subject: user rights to home lose
In-Reply-To: <4858DA4D.DE96.00A5.0@salud.unm.edu>
References: <4858DA4D.DE96.00A5.0@salud.unm.edu>
Message-ID: <485939AA.3080907@gmail.com>

Stephen Tolito wrote:
> I have several users that lost access to their home directory. 
> What is strange is nds & windows exploder have rights set correctly.
> It is happening on several netware servers, to a few users and only home directories.
>  
> Has anyone seen this? Does anyone know what may have caused this to happen?
>  
> We have run homes, which resolves the issue for only a few days, then it is back with different users.
>  
> Steve
>  
> Stephen Tolito
> LAN Administrator
> Health Sciences Library and Informatics Center
> MS09 5100
> 1 University of New Mexico
> Albuquerque NM 87131-0001
> Tel # : 505-272-5097
> Fax # : 505-272-8893
> stolito at salud.unm.edu 
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>   
would DSPREPAIR do the trick?

From stolito at salud.unm.edu  Wed Jun 18 18:13:17 2008
From: stolito at salud.unm.edu (Stephen Tolito)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:13:17 -0600
Subject: user rights to home lose
In-Reply-To: <485939AA.3080907@gmail.com>
References: <4858DA4D.DE96.00A5.0@salud.unm.edu> <485939AA.3080907@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4858EE06.DE96.00A5.0@salud.unm.edu>

dsrepair found no errors and did nothing to resolve the issue

>>> On 6/18/2008 at 10:36 AM, in message <485939AA.3080907 at gmail.com>, Phuk Xiao Yu <phuk.yu2007 at gmail.com> wrote:
Stephen Tolito wrote:
> I have several users that lost access to their home directory. 
> What is strange is nds & windows exploder have rights set correctly.
> It is happening on several netware servers, to a few users and only home directories.
>  
> Has anyone seen this? Does anyone know what may have caused this to happen?
>  
> We have run homes, which resolves the issue for only a few days, then it is back with different users.
>  
> Steve
>  
> Stephen Tolito
> LAN Administrator
> Health Sciences Library and Informatics Center
> MS09 5100
> 1 University of New Mexico
> Albuquerque NM 87131-0001
> Tel # : 505-272-5097
> Fax # : 505-272-8893
> stolito at salud.unm.edu 
> _______________________________________________
> Novell mailing list
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> http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell 
>
>   
would DSPREPAIR do the trick?
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From rwhalen at stmarys-ca.edu  Wed Jun 18 18:15:43 2008
From: rwhalen at stmarys-ca.edu (Rob Whalen)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:15:43 -0700
Subject: sigh -- abend log -- opinions?
In-Reply-To: <484464C9020000BB0009006F@mail2.nds8.com>
References: <68b791330806012003r220d03f0he56154679862cc1f@mail.gmail.com>	<48439DE2020000BB0008FF1D@mail2.nds8.com>	<68b791330806020502t3363ac37g6e93db9a4fc5458b@mail.gmail.com>
	<484464C9020000BB0009006F@mail2.nds8.com>
Message-ID: <485942BF.5090204@stmarys-ca.edu>

Tim,
We had our domain controller abending daily after sp7 until we updated 
the IP stack. This was a Novell support solution.
Rob
>
> We have had a bunch of DL380G5's that have caused similar abends - linked with the SP7 being applied and Ethertsm.nlm having been stable for a long time - there was only one choice...
>
> As for ACPI - been stable really since NW6 SP2 
>
> HTH
>
> T
>
>   
>>>> On 02 June 2008 at 13:02, "Peter Van Lone" <petervl at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>         
>> On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 1:14 AM, Tim Heywood <tim at nds8.co.uk> wrote:
>>     
>>> BX2.LAN 3.70
>>>
>>>       
>> Tim --
>>
>> to put a few more words into it:
>>
>> you think the culprit is the LAN driver? That does happen to be the
>> driver and version that is loaded -- how did you come to know that? Is
>> there a known issue with that driver version?
>>
>> >From what I understand, the admin has recently run the most recent
>> Proliant Support Pack, so ... this must be the most recent available
>> version of this file? (Though I will check to be sure he has done that
>> ...)
>>
>> Peter
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From Granville.Moralie at eskom.co.za  Wed Jun 18 20:15:16 2008
From: Granville.Moralie at eskom.co.za (Granville Moralie)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:15:16 +0200
Subject: SLES 10 SP1 and XDMCP broadcast for Exceed
In-Reply-To: <mailman.347.1213806536.3606.novell@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk>
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Hi,

 

Wondering if anyone had success in using Hummingbird Exceed to remotely manage or execute an application on a SLES 10 SP1, HP DL360 G5 box.

 

configured XDMCP to listen on port 177 and also listen on port 6000 (required for Exceed). Would at least like to get the machine to broadcast 'willing to manage'.

 

Machine is remotely administered via VNC, need to use Exceed to get a better resolution though. Got it working on SLES 9.

 

Any help will be appreciated.

 

Granville Moralie

Technical Architect

Eskom, Nuclear Portfolio

South Africa

email: granville.moralie at eskom.co.za


From alandpearson at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 18 22:27:59 2008
From: alandpearson at yahoo.com (Alan Pearson)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:27:59 +0100
Subject: SLES 10 SP1 and XDMCP broadcast for Exceed
In-Reply-To: <48597AE4.C05A.0057.0@eskom.co.za>
References: <mailman.347.1213806536.3606.novell@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk>
	<48597AE4.C05A.0057.0@eskom.co.za>
Message-ID: <F6F63F99-A182-4146-9CC6-D782AC56B2F7@yahoo.com>

Ok,

Have you disabled or let XDMCP through the SLES firewall ?

How did you enable XDMCP on the sles box ?

HAve you tried connecting in XDCMP direct mode in exceed ?

and finally...

What runlevel is the SLES box running in (cmd is who -r,  should be 5  
for X11 to run)

And I presume X11 is working happily on the SLES box (ie graphical  
local login on console ?)



---
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On 18 Jun 2008, at 20:15, Granville Moralie wrote:

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>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 
> --
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Wondering if anyone had success in using Hummingbird Exceed to  
> remotely manage or execute an application on a SLES 10 SP1, HP  
> DL360 G5 box.
>
>
>
> configured XDMCP to listen on port 177 and also listen on port 6000  
> (required for Exceed). Would at least like to get the machine to  
> broadcast 'willing to manage'.
>
>
>
> Machine is remotely administered via VNC, need to use Exceed to get  
> a better resolution though. Got it working on SLES 9.
>
>
>
> Any help will be appreciated.
>
>
>
> Granville Moralie
>
> Technical Architect
>
> Eskom, Nuclear Portfolio
>
> South Africa
>
> email: granville.moralie at eskom.co.za
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From dtran at ssc.ucla.edu  Thu Jun 19 20:21:08 2008
From: dtran at ssc.ucla.edu (Daniel Tran)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:21:08 -0700
Subject: user rights to home lose
In-Reply-To: <4858DA4D.DE96.00A5.0@salud.unm.edu>
References: <4858DA4D.DE96.00A5.0@salud.unm.edu>
Message-ID: <D2A4CE9969F00C4DB94310BD8B1E2032010513A5@SSCBE.SS.ucla.edu>

What version of netware ??.
Let me know 

-----Original Message-----
From: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Stephen
Tolito
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 8:49 AM
To: novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
Subject: user rights to home lose

I have several users that lost access to their home directory. 
What is strange is nds & windows exploder have rights set correctly.
It is happening on several netware servers, to a few users and only home
directories.
 
Has anyone seen this? Does anyone know what may have caused this to
happen?
 
We have run homes, which resolves the issue for only a few days, then it
is back with different users.
 
Steve
 
Stephen Tolito
LAN Administrator
Health Sciences Library and Informatics Center
MS09 5100
1 University of New Mexico
Albuquerque NM 87131-0001
Tel # : 505-272-5097
Fax # : 505-272-8893
stolito at salud.unm.edu 
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From stolito at salud.unm.edu  Thu Jun 19 21:42:53 2008
From: stolito at salud.unm.edu (Stephen Tolito)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:42:53 -0600
Subject: user rights to home lose
In-Reply-To: <D2A4CE9969F00C4DB94310BD8B1E2032010513A5@SSCBE.SS.ucla.edu>
References: <4858DA4D.DE96.00A5.0@salud.unm.edu>
	<D2A4CE9969F00C4DB94310BD8B1E2032010513A5@SSCBE.SS.ucla.edu>
Message-ID: <485A70A5.DE96.00A5.0@salud.unm.edu>

6.5 sp6 & 7

>>> On 6/19/2008 at 1:21 PM, in message <D2A4CE9969F00C4DB94310BD8B1E2032010513A5 at SSCBE.SS.ucla.edu>, "Daniel Tran" <dtran at ssc.ucla.edu> wrote:
What version of netware ??.
Let me know 

-----Original Message-----
From: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk 
[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Stephen
Tolito
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 8:49 AM
To: novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk 
Subject: user rights to home lose

I have several users that lost access to their home directory. 
What is strange is nds & windows exploder have rights set correctly.
It is happening on several netware servers, to a few users and only home
directories.

Has anyone seen this? Does anyone know what may have caused this to
happen?

We have run homes, which resolves the issue for only a few days, then it
is back with different users.

Steve

Stephen Tolito
LAN Administrator
Health Sciences Library and Informatics Center
MS09 5100
1 University of New Mexico
Albuquerque NM 87131-0001
Tel # : 505-272-5097
Fax # : 505-272-8893
stolito at salud.unm.edu 
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From dtran at ssc.ucla.edu  Thu Jun 19 22:21:56 2008
From: dtran at ssc.ucla.edu (Daniel Tran)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:21:56 -0700
Subject: user rights to home lose
In-Reply-To: <485A70A5.DE96.00A5.0@salud.unm.edu>
References: <4858DA4D.DE96.00A5.0@salud.unm.edu><D2A4CE9969F00C4DB94310BD8B1E2032010513A5@SSCBE.SS.ucla.edu>
	<485A70A5.DE96.00A5.0@salud.unm.edu>
Message-ID: <D2A4CE9969F00C4DB94310BD8B1E2032010513B4@SSCBE.SS.ucla.edu>

Sorry .  I had a similar issue a while back with netware 6.
I had to open a case with NTS, it was a bug and they sent me an NLM to
run on server to correct the issue.
That NLM works only for netware 6.

-----Original Message-----
From: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Stephen
Tolito
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 1:43 PM
To: Novell LAN Interest Group
Subject: RE: user rights to home lose

6.5 sp6 & 7

>>> On 6/19/2008 at 1:21 PM, in message
<D2A4CE9969F00C4DB94310BD8B1E2032010513A5 at SSCBE.SS.ucla.edu>, "Daniel
Tran" <dtran at ssc.ucla.edu> wrote:
What version of netware ??.
Let me know 

-----Original Message-----
From: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk 
[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Stephen
Tolito
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 8:49 AM
To: novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk 
Subject: user rights to home lose

I have several users that lost access to their home directory. 
What is strange is nds & windows exploder have rights set correctly.
It is happening on several netware servers, to a few users and only home
directories.

Has anyone seen this? Does anyone know what may have caused this to
happen?

We have run homes, which resolves the issue for only a few days, then it
is back with different users.

Steve

Stephen Tolito
LAN Administrator
Health Sciences Library and Informatics Center
MS09 5100
1 University of New Mexico
Albuquerque NM 87131-0001
Tel # : 505-272-5097
Fax # : 505-272-8893
stolito at salud.unm.edu 
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From cmangiarelli at gmail.com  Fri Jun 20 00:03:50 2008
From: cmangiarelli at gmail.com (Christopher Mangiarelli)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:03:50 -0400
Subject: user rights to home lose
In-Reply-To: <D2A4CE9969F00C4DB94310BD8B1E2032010513B4@SSCBE.SS.ucla.edu>
References: <4858DA4D.DE96.00A5.0@salud.unm.edu>
	<D2A4CE9969F00C4DB94310BD8B1E2032010513A5@SSCBE.SS.ucla.edu>
	<485A70A5.DE96.00A5.0@salud.unm.edu>
	<D2A4CE9969F00C4DB94310BD8B1E2032010513B4@SSCBE.SS.ucla.edu>
Message-ID: <f47566ff0806191603m1ac554c5s1c9ac5a510893826@mail.gmail.com>

If the directories are stored on NSS volumes, you may need to initiate an
NSS visibility rebuild.  Check the TID's for the command syntax, I currently
don't have the time to look it up for you.

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Daniel Tran <dtran at ssc.ucla.edu> wrote:

> Sorry .  I had a similar issue a while back with netware 6.
> I had to open a case with NTS, it was a bug and they sent me an NLM to
> run on server to correct the issue.
> That NLM works only for netware 6.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
> [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Stephen
> Tolito
> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 1:43 PM
> To: Novell LAN Interest Group
> Subject: RE: user rights to home lose
>
> 6.5 sp6 & 7
>
> >>> On 6/19/2008 at 1:21 PM, in message
> <D2A4CE9969F00C4DB94310BD8B1E2032010513A5 at SSCBE.SS.ucla.edu>, "Daniel
> Tran" <dtran at ssc.ucla.edu> wrote:
> What version of netware ??.
> Let me know
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
> [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Stephen
> Tolito
> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 8:49 AM
> To: novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
> Subject: user rights to home lose
>
> I have several users that lost access to their home directory.
> What is strange is nds & windows exploder have rights set correctly.
> It is happening on several netware servers, to a few users and only home
> directories.
>
> Has anyone seen this? Does anyone know what may have caused this to
> happen?
>
> We have run homes, which resolves the issue for only a few days, then it
> is back with different users.
>
> Steve
>
> Stephen Tolito
> LAN Administrator
> Health Sciences Library and Informatics Center
> MS09 5100
> 1 University of New Mexico
> Albuquerque NM 87131-0001
> Tel # : 505-272-5097
> Fax # : 505-272-8893
> stolito at salud.unm.edu
>

From A.Orde at leedsmet.ac.uk  Fri Jun 20 11:17:15 2008
From: A.Orde at leedsmet.ac.uk (Orde, Angus)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:17:15 +0100
Subject: From a previous posting: "Where RAID Excels" 
References: <s82aa887.046@mf.co.za>
	<BC825FA2-4413-47A0-96AF-64AA9276FB1A@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <93ED589E60BA254F97435FE6C97F2C6704866D96@leedsmet-exch1.leedsmet.ac.uk>

Randy,

I have been looking for this exact information (RAID performance based
on numbers of drives in RAID sets), and I have not been able to find it
(though I am sure I saw it somewhere earlier this year).

I wonder if you have an electronic copy that you might let me have. This
is simply to help us plan our RAID strategies better here.

Thanks,

Angus
========
Angus Orde
Development Leader (Comms & Infrastructure)
Computing Services (IMTS)
Leeds Metropolitan University
Leeds LS1 3HE
Tel: 0113 8123840

-----Original Message-----
From: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Randy Grein
Sent: 14 May 2008 14:09
To: Novell LAN Interest Group
Subject: Re: From a previous posting:

Matt,
I've posted on this a number of times. I believe my article in  
NetworkVAR magazine (Where RAID Excels, Feb '97) is one of the first  
published instances where the issue is discussed. Since then I have  
formulated the problem in mathematical terms and informally published  
the results a number of times, here and elsewhere. The magazine is  
long out of print but if you're interested I have an electronic copy  
somewhere; contact me offlist. (I can't find the original published on  
the web anymore with google, but I did find several references to it  
in patent documents. Sad.)

FWIW the statement quoted should be that 3 drive RAID 5 WRITES are  
slower than a single drive, RAID 0, 1,  1,0, 5 and 6 have similar  
performance in multi-access server reads which confuses the issue.  
Caching controllers mask the problem somewhat but can create blockage  
problems when disk writes pile up.

Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA

On May 13, 2008, at 11:53 PM, Morgan Govender wrote:

>> From a previous posting:
>
> Raid 5 with 3 disks is slower than a single disk on it's own.  5 disks
> in a raid set is between 2 & 3 times as fast (to read) as a 3 disk  
> RAID
> 5
>
>
> Any references, tech papers to backup this? Not to convince me but
> rather my management?


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From Mark.Robinson at nds8.co.uk  Fri Jun 20 14:50:25 2008
From: Mark.Robinson at nds8.co.uk (Mark Robinson)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:50:25 +0100
Subject: SLES 10 SP1 and XDMCP broadcast for Exceed
Message-ID: <485BC3B1020000AD00009322@mail2.nds8.com>

Why not just use putty with X forwarding?



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Hi,

 

Wondering if anyone had success in using Hummingbird Exceed to remotely manage or execute an application on a SLES 10 SP1, HP DL360 G5 box.

 

configured XDMCP to listen on port 177 and also listen on port 6000 (required for Exceed). Would at least like to get the machine to broadcast 'willing to manage'.

 

Machine is remotely administered via VNC, need to use Exceed to get a better resolution though. Got it working on SLES 9.

 

Any help will be appreciated.

 

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Technical Architect

Eskom, Nuclear Portfolio

South Africa

email: granville.moralie at eskom.co.za

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From HPfeil at uca.edu  Fri Jun 20 14:53:07 2008
From: HPfeil at uca.edu (Hans Pfeil)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:53:07 -0500
Subject: XEN not finding NICs
Message-ID: <485B6FF3.6010.00BD.0@uca.edu>

Hey all, thanks for helping me with this in advance.  Anybody and everybody please chime in.  Here is an excerpt from my boot log file.  I totally wiped the server and started from scratch.  No wrapper file, no nothing.  Just a clean install of Novell's SLES10.1 with XEN3.0.  I did setup each NIC with a static IP address.  I think the problem is at boot time.  For some reason when I boot to XEN, it cannot find these extra nics.   It will see the two embedded Broadcom's but not the 8 Intel nics.  The intel nics are:  Intel gigabit VT Quad Port Server Adapters, using the Intel 82575 chipset on a Dell 1950 server.  When you boot to normal SLES it will see ALL the nics.  Seems to me there is something to setup somewhere so XEN can see these cards??


Thanks all,
-Hans


doneSetting up network interfaces:
    lo        
    lo        IP address: 127.0.0.1/8   
done    eth0      device: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme II BCM5708 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 12)
    eth0      configuration: eth-id-00:1e:c9:ad:77:0a
    eth0      IP address: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
done    eth1      device: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme II BCM5708 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 12)
    eth1      configuration: eth-id-00:1e:c9:ad:77:08
    eth1      IP address: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   

doneWaiting for mandatory devices:  eth-id-00:1b:21:17:ee:30 eth-id-00:1b:21:17:ee:31 eth-id-00:1b:21:17:ee:34 eth-id-00:1b:21:17:ee:35 eth-id-00:1b:21:17:f8:20 eth-id-00:1b:21:17:f8:21 eth-id-00:1b:21:17:f8:24 eth-id-00:1b:21:17:f8:25 __NSC__
19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 
    eth-id-00:1b:21:17:ee:30            No interface found
failed    eth-id-00:1b:21:17:ee:31            No interface found
failed    eth-id-00:1b:21:17:ee:34            No interface found
failed    eth-id-00:1b:21:17:ee:35            No interface found
failed    eth-id-00:1b:21:17:f8:20            No interface found
failed    eth-id-00:1b:21:17:f8:21            No interface found
failed    eth-id-00:1b:21:17:f8:24            No interface found
failed    eth-id-00:1b:21:17:f8:25            No interface found
failedSetting up service network  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .failed


From RGrein at tpchd.org  Fri Jun 20 16:09:30 2008
From: RGrein at tpchd.org (Randy Grein)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:09:30 -0700
Subject: From a previous posting: "Where RAID Excels"
In-Reply-To: <93ED589E60BA254F97435FE6C97F2C6704866D96@leedsmet-exch1.leedsmet.ac.uk>
References: <s82aa887.046@mf.co.za>
	<BC825FA2-4413-47A0-96AF-64AA9276FB1A@comcast.net>
	<93ED589E60BA254F97435FE6C97F2C6704866D96@leedsmet-exch1.leedsmet.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <485B65BD.811E.0072.0@tpchd.org>

I keep meaning to get this published. I need to get fired so I'll have more time. (grin) I'll try to get it formalized in the next couple of weeks. I have it in a decent first draft format but other things keep getting in the way.

The short answer (if you need it before then) is that disk access can best be approached from a statistical perspective; if we look at worst case scenarios we see that access is largely random; the request size is not completely known but generally it's smaller than 64k and larger than 512 bytes (for standard file access). The access type makes a huge difference and I'll go over that in the finalized document.

RAID set performance can be stated in terms of the performance of a single drive factoring in the request size (at the disk level), the number of drives in the array and the RAID type. All RAID types except 3 and 4 have similar read performance which is the performance of a single drive (X) times the number of drives (N). Reads are cached by the OS and controller so writes become far more important when considering performance. Physical write speed is determined by the formulas:

X times N for RAID 0
X  for pure RAID 1
X times N/2 for RAID 1,0
X times N/4 for RAID 5
X times N/5 for RAID 6

Pump in the numbers and you can see that a 3 drive RAID 5 system will write slower than a single drive or mirrored pair, and RAID 10 has twice the performance at any given number of drives as RAID 5.

Randy Grein
Sr. Network Engineer


>>> "Orde, Angus" <A.Orde at leedsmet.ac.uk> 6/20/2008 3:17 AM >>>
Randy,

I have been looking for this exact information (RAID performance based
on numbers of drives in RAID sets), and I have not been able to find it
(though I am sure I saw it somewhere earlier this year).

I wonder if you have an electronic copy that you might let me have. This
is simply to help us plan our RAID strategies better here.

Thanks,

Angus
========
Angus Orde
Development Leader (Comms & Infrastructure)
Computing Services (IMTS)
Leeds Metropolitan University
Leeds LS1 3HE
Tel: 0113 8123840

-----Original Message-----
From: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk 
[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Randy Grein
Sent: 14 May 2008 14:09
To: Novell LAN Interest Group
Subject: Re: From a previous posting:

Matt,
I've posted on this a number of times. I believe my article in  
NetworkVAR magazine (Where RAID Excels, Feb '97) is one of the first  
published instances where the issue is discussed. Since then I have  
formulated the problem in mathematical terms and informally published  
the results a number of times, here and elsewhere. The magazine is  
long out of print but if you're interested I have an electronic copy  
somewhere; contact me offlist. (I can't find the original published on  
the web anymore with google, but I did find several references to it  
in patent documents. Sad.)

FWIW the statement quoted should be that 3 drive RAID 5 WRITES are  
slower than a single drive, RAID 0, 1,  1,0, 5 and 6 have similar  
performance in multi-access server reads which confuses the issue.  
Caching controllers mask the problem somewhat but can create blockage  
problems when disk writes pile up.

Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA

On May 13, 2008, at 11:53 PM, Morgan Govender wrote:

>> From a previous posting:
>
> Raid 5 with 3 disks is slower than a single disk on it's own.  5 disks
> in a raid set is between 2 & 3 times as fast (to read) as a 3 disk  
> RAID
> 5
>
>
> Any references, tech papers to backup this? Not to convince me but
> rather my management?


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From stolito at salud.unm.edu  Fri Jun 20 19:56:54 2008
From: stolito at salud.unm.edu (Stephen Tolito)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:56:54 -0600
Subject: user rights to home lose
In-Reply-To: <f47566ff0806191603m1ac554c5s1c9ac5a510893826@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4858DA4D.DE96.00A5.0@salud.unm.edu>
	<D2A4CE9969F00C4DB94310BD8B1E2032010513A5@SSCBE.SS.ucla.edu>
	<485A70A5.DE96.00A5.0@salud.unm.edu>
	<D2A4CE9969F00C4DB94310BD8B1E2032010513B4@SSCBE.SS.ucla.edu>
	<f47566ff0806191603m1ac554c5s1c9ac5a510893826@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <485BA94E.DE96.00A5.0@salud.unm.edu>

I found tid 3196739 on support site.
ran dmptrust found errors
ran nss /resetidcache
ran syncguid
then ran dmptrust again and found no errors.
 
This is good and all, but the tid did not have a cause.  
I do not know if this resolved the issue or is just a bandaid.
 
Does anyone know the cause? Or if this is actually the cure?

>>> On 6/19/2008 at 5:03 PM, in message <f47566ff0806191603m1ac554c5s1c9ac5a510893826 at mail.gmail.com>, "Christopher Mangiarelli" <cmangiarelli at gmail.com> wrote:
If the directories are stored on NSS volumes, you may need to initiate an
NSS visibility rebuild.  Check the TID's for the command syntax, I currently
don't have the time to look it up for you.

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Daniel Tran <dtran at ssc.ucla.edu> wrote:

> Sorry .  I had a similar issue a while back with netware 6.
> I had to open a case with NTS, it was a bug and they sent me an NLM to
> run on server to correct the issue.
> That NLM works only for netware 6.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk 
> [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Stephen
> Tolito
> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 1:43 PM
> To: Novell LAN Interest Group
> Subject: RE: user rights to home lose
>
> 6.5 sp6 & 7
>
> >>> On 6/19/2008 at 1:21 PM, in message
> <D2A4CE9969F00C4DB94310BD8B1E2032010513A5 at SSCBE.SS.ucla.edu>, "Daniel
> Tran" <dtran at ssc.ucla.edu> wrote:
> What version of netware ??.
> Let me know
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk 
> [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Stephen
> Tolito
> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 8:49 AM
> To: novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk 
> Subject: user rights to home lose
>
> I have several users that lost access to their home directory.
> What is strange is nds & windows exploder have rights set correctly.
> It is happening on several netware servers, to a few users and only home
> directories.
>
> Has anyone seen this? Does anyone know what may have caused this to
> happen?
>
> We have run homes, which resolves the issue for only a few days, then it
> is back with different users.
>
> Steve
>
> Stephen Tolito
> LAN Administrator
> Health Sciences Library and Informatics Center
> MS09 5100
> 1 University of New Mexico
> Albuquerque NM 87131-0001
> Tel # : 505-272-5097
> Fax # : 505-272-8893
> stolito at salud.unm.edu 
>
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From fubarsnafu69 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 23 14:06:40 2008
From: fubarsnafu69 at gmail.com (fred james)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 09:06:40 -0400
Subject: Zenworks 6.5 & Adobe Photoshop CS3
Message-ID: <32a559c50806230606t2ea52474v114bed7fa4da2cc0@mail.gmail.com>

I am trying to install Adobe Photoshop CS3 - from Zenworks -

The install takes 15 to 20 minutes to run.

I have created the application.xml.override file and place it where it
needs to be. Then I run the follow command

"P:\Zenapps\PhotoShopCS3-EXE-XP\Setup.exe" --mode=silent
--deploymentFile="P:\Zenapps\PhotoShopCS3-EXE-XP\Deployment.xml"

If I run this directly from the zenworks object - their is no
indication that the install is taking place - I can watch Task Mgr and
see that it is working, but this wont work for the user - they need to
see something.

If I put the command in a batch file and then run the batch file from
zen object - a DOS box opens and stays open for the entire install,
this is better - but their is no progress bar to speak of. So it looks
like it's locked up and just sets their. It does install though

If I remove the --silent from command line - it prompts users a few
time and then shows the progress bar of the install - I like the
progress bar but not the prompts.

I have tried to use WISE to repackage the app - but it has 27
diffefferent MSI that are launched and each one says to use setup.exe

I need to have it run without user intervention and have a progress
bar of the install status


thanks

Fred

From pjc9001 at nyp.org  Mon Jun 23 20:11:14 2008
From: pjc9001 at nyp.org (Peter J. Cox)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:11:14 -0400
Subject: Zenworks 6.5 & Adobe Photoshop CS3
Message-ID: <4b2fce9e65fe.485fbd12@med.cornell.edu>

Fred,
  When we've were in a similar situation one of the techs used WinBatch to automate the prompts. You could also place a "Please wait, Installing..........." echo statement in the batch file, it's not a progress bar but it should give a clue to your users.
Hope that helps.

If there are any questions or problems
please contact me.
_______________________
Peter J. Cox
Network Manager, IT
NY Methodist Hospital
718-780-3250 Office
718-780-5993 HelpDesk


----- Original Message -----
From: fred james <fubarsnafu69 at gmail.com>
Date: Monday, June 23, 2008 9:06 am
Subject: Zenworks 6.5 & Adobe Photoshop CS3

> I am trying to install Adobe Photoshop CS3 - from Zenworks -
> 
> The install takes 15 to 20 minutes to run.
> 
> I have created the application.xml.override file and place it where it
> needs to be. Then I run the follow command
> 
> "P:\Zenapps\PhotoShopCS3-EXE-XP\Setup.exe" --mode=silent
> --deploymentFile="P:\Zenapps\PhotoShopCS3-EXE-XP\Deployment.xml"
> 
> If I run this directly from the zenworks object - their is no
> indication that the install is taking place - I can watch Task Mgr and
> see that it is working, but this wont work for the user - they need to
> see something.
> 
> If I put the command in a batch file and then run the batch file from
> zen object - a DOS box opens and stays open for the entire install,
> this is better - but their is no progress bar to speak of. So it looks
> like it's locked up and just sets their. It does install though
> 
> If I remove the --silent from command line - it prompts users a few
> time and then shows the progress bar of the install - I like the
> progress bar but not the prompts.
> 
> I have tried to use WISE to repackage the app - but it has 27
> diffefferent MSI that are launched and each one says to use setup.exe
> 
> I need to have it run without user intervention and have a progress
> bar of the install status
> 
> 
> thanks
> 
> Fred
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From mrsmith at oconee.k12.ga.us  Mon Jun 23 22:32:42 2008
From: mrsmith at oconee.k12.ga.us (Matt Smith)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:32:42 -0400
Subject: OES won't boot
Message-ID: <485FDD3A.E4C1.0068.0@oconee.k12.ga.us>

I have a problem with some of my test machines not booting after I install NSS volumes on a second hard drive.  These are desktop class machines with two IDE drives in them.  I install SLES 10 sp1 on the master, and everything works fine.  When I go back and install OES, though, I have a problem.  The machine works fine, with or without OES installed, but as soon as I put a NSS volume on the second disk, the IDE slave, the machine will no longer boot.  Worse than that, it won't even POST properly and becomes completely unresponsive to the keyboard.  So far the only way I've been able to get the machine to boot again is to disconnect the secondary drive.

This isn't a life-or-death production system type of issue, but it is very inconvenient.  I have a limited pool of machines to use for testing, and I can't get any of them to mimic my production file-and-print environment properly.  I'm assuming that the problem lies somewhere with EVMS, but I honestly don't know where to start.

Thanks,

-Matt
-- 

Matt Smith                Network Technology Specialist
Oconee County School System, Oconee County, Georgia
Office of Instruction and Technology       706-769-5685


From mbrady at ingenuityieq.com  Tue Jun 24 03:30:37 2008
From: mbrady at ingenuityieq.com (Mike Brady)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 22:30:37 -0400
Subject: iFolder 3.6 on OES2 - Experiences?
In-Reply-To: <485FDD3A.E4C1.0068.0@oconee.k12.ga.us>
References: <485FDD3A.E4C1.0068.0@oconee.k12.ga.us>
Message-ID: <48602413.DAFB.002D.0@ingenuityieq.com>

Folks,
 
I am wondering if anyone would mind sharing their experiences with
iFolder 3.6.  I have recently deployed it on OES2 Linux, and not been
very impressed.  We are running iFolder 3.2 in production, and I was
thinking I would migrate to 3.6.  The client seems terribly buggy,
connecting this time I boot, but maybe not the next time.  3.2 has been
OK for us, and I supposed there isn't a reason to migrate if 3.6 isn't a
performance or stability improvement.  I just really have to wonder if
my experience with this product is unique, or are there others having
trouble with 3.6? To me this seems like an untested BETA level product,
not something I would expect to see in a released Novell operating
system.
 
Mike Brady
IT Specialist

From petervl at gmail.com  Tue Jun 24 03:35:58 2008
From: petervl at gmail.com (Peter Van Lone)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:35:58 -0500
Subject: iFolder 3.6 on OES2 - Experiences?
In-Reply-To: <48602413.DAFB.002D.0@ingenuityieq.com>
References: <485FDD3A.E4C1.0068.0@oconee.k12.ga.us>
	<48602413.DAFB.002D.0@ingenuityieq.com>
Message-ID: <68b791330806231935s6f3177adqd622371647892291@mail.gmail.com>

I can't wait to hear other people's replies ... I have been holding
off forever it seems, waiting to get a sense that the product finally
had gotten some love.

It seems like it has taken a couple steps in the right direction, but
it also seems as though there are really only one or maybe two devs
putting any time into it at all. It feels like a "when you have time"
kind of assignment.

Hopefully I'm wrong ....

Peter

On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Mike Brady <mbrady at ingenuityieq.com> wrote:
> Folks,
>
> I am wondering if anyone would mind sharing their experiences with
> iFolder 3.6.  I have recently deployed it on OES2 Linux, and not been
> very impressed.  We are running iFolder 3.2 in production, and I was
> thinking I would migrate to 3.6.  The client seems terribly buggy,
> connecting this time I boot, but maybe not the next time.  3.2 has been
> OK for us, and I supposed there isn't a reason to migrate if 3.6 isn't a
> performance or stability improvement.  I just really have to wonder if
> my experience with this product is unique, or are there others having
> trouble with 3.6? To me this seems like an untested BETA level product,
> not something I would expect to see in a released Novell operating
> system.
>
> Mike Brady
> IT Specialist
> _______________________________________________
> Novell mailing list
> Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
> http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell
>



-- 
"There is a grandeur in this view of life, a life in which endless
forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being,
evolved."

Charles Darwin
The Origin of Species


http://xkcd.com/167/

www.the-brights.net

From awleask at gmail.com  Tue Jun 24 05:35:00 2008
From: awleask at gmail.com (Alister Leask)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:35:00 +1200
Subject: iFolder 3.6 on OES2 - Experiences?
In-Reply-To: <68b791330806231935s6f3177adqd622371647892291@mail.gmail.com>
References: <485FDD3A.E4C1.0068.0@oconee.k12.ga.us>
	<48602413.DAFB.002D.0@ingenuityieq.com>
	<68b791330806231935s6f3177adqd622371647892291@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <397cc55b0806232135l7110b80dqac0b5b8139e50d7@mail.gmail.com>

I have but only one complaint about iFolder 3.6 on OES2: The bit in
the configuration where you tell it to look in specific contexts for
users, or give it a group name, is not as nice as the previous (3.2?)
version and it remembers whatever you put in there and you cant delete
it even if there is a typo.

Also - no Mac client, not that I've checked for a while. I'd rather
have that than a linux client quite frankly.

Otherwise, it just works.

I don't miss the encryption and all that other jazz that was in v2.

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 14:35, Peter Van Lone <petervl at gmail.com> wrote:
> I can't wait to hear other people's replies ... I have been holding
> off forever it seems, waiting to get a sense that the product finally
> had gotten some love.
>
> It seems like it has taken a couple steps in the right direction, but
> it also seems as though there are really only one or maybe two devs
> putting any time into it at all. It feels like a "when you have time"
> kind of assignment.
>
> Hopefully I'm wrong ....
>
> Peter
>
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Mike Brady <mbrady at ingenuityieq.com> wrote:
>> Folks,
>>
>> I am wondering if anyone would mind sharing their experiences with
>> iFolder 3.6.  I have recently deployed it on OES2 Linux, and not been
>> very impressed.  We are running iFolder 3.2 in production, and I was
>> thinking I would migrate to 3.6.  The client seems terribly buggy,
>> connecting this time I boot, but maybe not the next time.  3.2 has been
>> OK for us, and I supposed there isn't a reason to migrate if 3.6 isn't a
>> performance or stability improvement.  I just really have to wonder if
>> my experience with this product is unique, or are there others having
>> trouble with 3.6? To me this seems like an untested BETA level product,
>> not something I would expect to see in a released Novell operating
>> system.
>>
>> Mike Brady
>> IT Specialist
>> _______________________________________________
>> Novell mailing list
>> Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
>> http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell
>>
>
>
>
> --
> "There is a grandeur in this view of life, a life in which endless
> forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being,
> evolved."
>
> Charles Darwin
> The Origin of Species
>
>
> http://xkcd.com/167/
>
> www.the-brights.net
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From thys at nwpg.gov.za  Tue Jun 24 06:50:41 2008
From: thys at nwpg.gov.za (Thys de Beer)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 07:50:41 +0200
Subject: iFolder 3.6 on OES2 - Experiences?
In-Reply-To: <68b791330806231935s6f3177adqd622371647892291@mail.gmail.com>
References: <485FDD3A.E4C1.0068.0@oconee.k12.ga.us>
	<48602413.DAFB.002D.0@ingenuityieq.com>
	<68b791330806231935s6f3177adqd622371647892291@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4860A751.6D39.0014.3@nwpg.gov.za>

Hi All,


My Take.......IT IS BAD and Frustrating!!! to say the least....must be one of the worst products Novell ever launched.......then this is not working then that is not working.....really a bad bad expierence....and i cant go back...to ones again tell everybody to remove old client and run setup agasin...buit on the other hand as is it is very  very poor.....so with much egg on my face i am trying to bypass the bullets....


Kind Regards,

Thys de Beer
018 388 3818
082 456 1891
NOSSS - Network Operating  Systems Support Services
  


 


>>> On 2008/06/24 at 04:35 AM, in message <68b791330806231935s6f3177adqd622371647892291 at mail.gmail.com>, "Peter Van Lone" <petervl at gmail.com> wrote:

I can't wait to hear other people's replies ... I have been holding
off forever it seems, waiting to get a sense that the product finally
had gotten some love.

It seems like it has taken a couple steps in the right direction, but
it also seems as though there are really only one or maybe two devs
putting any time into it at all. It feels like a "when you have time"
kind of assignment.

Hopefully I'm wrong ....

Peter

On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Mike Brady <mbrady at ingenuityieq.com> wrote:
> Folks,
>
> I am wondering if anyone would mind sharing their experiences with
> iFolder 3.6.  I have recently deployed it on OES2 Linux, and not been
> very impressed.  We are running iFolder 3.2 in production, and I was
> thinking I would migrate to 3.6.  The client seems terribly buggy,
> connecting this time I boot, but maybe not the next time.  3.2 has been
> OK for us, and I supposed there isn't a reason to migrate if 3.6 isn't a
> performance or stability improvement.  I just really have to wonder if
> my experience with this product is unique, or are there others having
> trouble with 3.6? To me this seems like an untested BETA level product,
> not something I would expect to see in a released Novell operating
> system.
>
> Mike Brady
> IT Specialist
> _______________________________________________
> Novell mailing list
> Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
> http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell
>



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"There is a grandeur in this view of life, a life in which endless
forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being,
evolved."

Charles Darwin
The Origin of Species


http://xkcd.com/167/

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From JRD at cc.usu.edu  Tue Jun 24 09:39:05 2008
From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 02:39:05 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: OES won't boot
Message-ID: <01MWCQJ5KOPE8Y9U3L@cc.usu.edu>

>I have a problem with some of my test machines not booting after I install
> NSS volumes on a second hard drive.  These are desktop class machines with
> two IDE drives in them.  I install SLES 10 sp1 on the master, and everything
> works fine.  When I go back and install OES, though, I have a problem.  The
> machine works fine, with or without OES installed, but as soon as I put a
> NSS volume on the second disk, the IDE slave, the machine will no longer
> boot.  Worse than that, it won't even POST properly and becomes completely
> unresponsive to the keyboard.  So far the only way I've been able to get the
> machine to boot again is to disconnect the secondary drive.
>
>This isn't a life-or-death production system type of issue, but it is very
> inconvenient.  I have a limited pool of machines to use for testing, and I 
>can't get any of them to mimic my production file-and-print environment 
>properly.  I'm assuming that the problem lies somewhere with EVMS, but I
> honestly don't know where to start.
>
>Thanks,
>
>-Matt
---- 
	First, a niggle, but is that OES2 or OES1?
	Linux has a problem with GRUB in the way it selects a boot device
and then the o/s partitions, and even where the boot loader is stored.
Let's start with the boot loader first.
	When creating a Linux box expose only the boot drive, no other
drives. That will ensure the boot loader is stored on that drive, else
it could be anywhere GRUB wishes (often on a drive with a bootable/active
partition).
	Then to the bootable drive. GRUB can identify drives by vendor
model number and partition, or by device name (/dev/hda), or by a label
created during partition and file system installation. Beware that changing
hardware can royally mess up the device name pathway. I prefer the label
approach. In any case, both /boot/grub/menu.lst entries and /etc/fstab
must agree on the method.
	Finally, we have the host machine's BIOS boot ordering to
consider. Ensure the box chooses the proper drive, else another drive
with an active partition may be selected.
	Finally+1, please do not use a volume manager on the o/s partitions
proper (/ and optionally /boot). All this will do is cause disasters later.
	My experience with OES2 and trying to repair a mangled boot scheme
is to start over from scratch, the situation is often beyond repair. I may
have to completely clear the parition table of a drive to remove traces of
GRUB and hence reduce chances of booting the wrong drive. Fdisk can do this,
as can the advanced menu in YaST's partitioner.
	Joe D.

From thys at nwpg.gov.za  Tue Jun 24 11:05:04 2008
From: thys at nwpg.gov.za (Thys de Beer)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:05:04 +0200
Subject: U3 drives and Novell
Message-ID: <4860E2F0.6D39.0014.3@nwpg.gov.za>

Hi Guys and Girls,


I have been waiting and waiting but nobody refers or ask about this......U3 support for Novell products?, does anybody know if their is plans for this......I can really see our support guys using this BIG time...we as government will never have the money to have a laptop for each support techie...so the next best thing will be this....SO novell come -on bring us the u3 version of ...

GW Client
C1
Novell Client
GW IM


I mean i see PuTTY is their, OpenOffice, Firefox, Skype so Novell come to the party please, all for free of course to name a few...


I know I know Novell-mgmt will be browser based...but Hey i've been waiting for years now...and i still need C1....




Kind Regards,

Thys de Beer
018 388 3818
082 456 1891
NOSSS - Network Operating  Systems Support Services
  


 

From robrinsky at roillc.com  Tue Jun 24 11:17:39 2008
From: robrinsky at roillc.com (Robert Obrinsky)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 06:17:39 -0400
Subject: U3 drives and Novell
In-Reply-To: <4860E2F0.6D39.0014.3@nwpg.gov.za>
References: <4860E2F0.6D39.0014.3@nwpg.gov.za>
Message-ID: <486091D0.9FDC.006D.0@roillc.com>

Just my opinion Thys, but I don't see this happening. Novell has been trying to get away from C1 and the Netware client for years. There is no revenue incentive for them to do this and I think that these days, their development resources are much more limited. 

So, unless somebody decides to take this on as a project in Novell's sourceforge... 

Now, if Netware were open sourced... but I don't see that happening either.


Robert W. Obrinsky
President
Robert Obrinsky Industries, LLC
1824 Newfield Avenue
Stamford CT 06903
Office 203-968-9617
Mobile 203-273-7012




>>> "Thys de Beer" <thys at nwpg.gov.za> 06/24/08 6:05 AM >>>
Hi Guys and Girls,


I have been waiting and waiting but nobody refers or ask about this......U3 support for Novell products?, does anybody know if their is plans for this......I can really see our support guys using this BIG time...we as government will never have the money to have a laptop for each support techie...so the next best thing will be this....SO novell come -on bring us the u3 version of ...

GW Client
C1
Novell Client
GW IM


I mean i see PuTTY is their, OpenOffice, Firefox, Skype so Novell come to the party please, all for free of course to name a few...


I know I know Novell-mgmt will be browser based...but Hey i've been waiting for years now...and i still need C1....




Kind Regards,

Thys de Beer
018 388 3818
082 456 1891
NOSSS - Network Operating  Systems Support Services
 



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From fubarsnafu69 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 24 12:46:03 2008
From: fubarsnafu69 at gmail.com (fred james)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 07:46:03 -0400
Subject: Zenworks 6.5 & Adobe Photoshop CS3
In-Reply-To: <4b2fce9e65fe.485fbd12@med.cornell.edu>
References: <4b2fce9e65fe.485fbd12@med.cornell.edu>
Message-ID: <32a559c50806240446s5c51bf4epb1f4454b382858de@mail.gmail.com>

Peter

I already have the echo statements in - unfortunately they want a progress bar


Fred

On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Peter J. Cox <pjc9001 at nyp.org> wrote:
> Fred,
>  When we've were in a similar situation one of the techs used WinBatch to automate the prompts. You could also place a "Please wait, Installing..........." echo statement in the batch file, it's not a progress bar but it should give a clue to your users.
> Hope that helps.
>
> If there are any questions or problems
> please contact me.
> _______________________
> Peter J. Cox
> Network Manager, IT
> NY Methodist Hospital
> 718-780-3250 Office
> 718-780-5993 HelpDesk
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: fred james <fubarsnafu69 at gmail.com>
> Date: Monday, June 23, 2008 9:06 am
> Subject: Zenworks 6.5 & Adobe Photoshop CS3
>
>> I am trying to install Adobe Photoshop CS3 - from Zenworks -
>>
>> The install takes 15 to 20 minutes to run.
>>
>> I have created the application.xml.override file and place it where it
>> needs to be. Then I run the follow command
>>
>> "P:\Zenapps\PhotoShopCS3-EXE-XP\Setup.exe" --mode=silent
>> --deploymentFile="P:\Zenapps\PhotoShopCS3-EXE-XP\Deployment.xml"
>>
>> If I run this directly from the zenworks object - their is no
>> indication that the install is taking place - I can watch Task Mgr and
>> see that it is working, but this wont work for the user - they need to
>> see something.
>>
>> If I put the command in a batch file and then run the batch file from
>> zen object - a DOS box opens and stays open for the entire install,
>> this is better - but their is no progress bar to speak of. So it looks
>> like it's locked up and just sets their. It does install though
>>
>> If I remove the --silent from command line - it prompts users a few
>> time and then shows the progress bar of the install - I like the
>> progress bar but not the prompts.
>>
>> I have tried to use WISE to repackage the app - but it has 27
>> diffefferent MSI that are launched and each one says to use setup.exe
>>
>> I need to have it run without user intervention and have a progress
>> bar of the install status
>>
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> Fred
>> _______________________________________________
>> Novell mailing list
>> Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
>> http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell
>>
>
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From pjc9001 at nyp.org  Tue Jun 24 13:59:55 2008
From: pjc9001 at nyp.org (Peter J. Cox)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 08:59:55 -0400
Subject: Zenworks 6.5 & Adobe Photoshop CS3
In-Reply-To: <32a559c50806240446s5c51bf4epb1f4454b382858de@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4b2fce9e65fe.485fbd12@med.cornell.edu>
	<32a559c50806240446s5c51bf4epb1f4454b382858de@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4860EFCB.4010109@nyp.org>

Fred,
    In that case the only thing I'd be able to recommends is WinBatch, 
you're able to turn off user input and script the mouse as well as 
keyboard input. I think the only problem we had was we had to push some 
dll's to older machines. I'll try to get more details today. You can 
find out more about the program at winbatch.com.

If there are any questions or problems
please contact me.
_______________________
Peter J. Cox
Network Manager, IT
NY Methodist Hospital
718-780-3250 Office
718-780-5993 HelpDesk




fred james wrote:
> Peter
>
> I already have the echo statements in - unfortunately they want a progress bar
>
>
> Fred
>
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Peter J. Cox <pjc9001 at nyp.org> wrote:
>   
>> Fred,
>>  When we've were in a similar situation one of the techs used WinBatch to automate the prompts. You could also place a "Please wait, Installing..........." echo statement in the batch file, it's not a progress bar but it should give a clue to your users.
>> Hope that helps.
>>
>> If there are any questions or problems
>> please contact me.
>> _______________________
>> Peter J. Cox
>> Network Manager, IT
>> NY Methodist Hospital
>> 718-780-3250 Office
>> 718-780-5993 HelpDesk
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: fred james <fubarsnafu69 at gmail.com>
>> Date: Monday, June 23, 2008 9:06 am
>> Subject: Zenworks 6.5 & Adobe Photoshop CS3
>>
>>     
>>> I am trying to install Adobe Photoshop CS3 - from Zenworks -
>>>
>>> The install takes 15 to 20 minutes to run.
>>>
>>> I have created the application.xml.override file and place it where it
>>> needs to be. Then I run the follow command
>>>
>>> "P:\Zenapps\PhotoShopCS3-EXE-XP\Setup.exe" --mode=silent
>>> --deploymentFile="P:\Zenapps\PhotoShopCS3-EXE-XP\Deployment.xml"
>>>
>>> If I run this directly from the zenworks object - their is no
>>> indication that the install is taking place - I can watch Task Mgr and
>>> see that it is working, but this wont work for the user - they need to
>>> see something.
>>>
>>> If I put the command in a batch file and then run the batch file from
>>> zen object - a DOS box opens and stays open for the entire install,
>>> this is better - but their is no progress bar to speak of. So it looks
>>> like it's locked up and just sets their. It does install though
>>>
>>> If I remove the --silent from command line - it prompts users a few
>>> time and then shows the progress bar of the install - I like the
>>> progress bar but not the prompts.
>>>
>>> I have tried to use WISE to repackage the app - but it has 27
>>> diffefferent MSI that are launched and each one says to use setup.exe
>>>
>>> I need to have it run without user intervention and have a progress
>>> bar of the install status
>>>
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>>> Fred
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Novell mailing list
>>> Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
>>> http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell
>>>
>>>       
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From mbrady at ingenuityieq.com  Tue Jun 24 14:02:47 2008
From: mbrady at ingenuityieq.com (Mike Brady)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:02:47 -0400
Subject: iFolder 3.6 on OES2 - Experiences?
In-Reply-To: <397cc55b0806232135l7110b80dqac0b5b8139e50d7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <485FDD3A.E4C1.0068.0@oconee.k12.ga.us>
	<48602413.DAFB.002D.0@ingenuityieq.com>
	<68b791330806231935s6f3177adqd622371647892291@mail.gmail.com>
	<397cc55b0806232135l7110b80dqac0b5b8139e50d7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4860B83E.DAFB.002D.0@ingenuityieq.com>

I've found yet another problem with the Windows client, need to test the
Linux client but I suspect it has the same issue.  Our iFolder 3.6
server is on a private IP, with a NAT to the public address.  I have an
internal DNS server, so I can go to the hostname on the inside of my
network and hit the internal IP, and a public DNS entry so I can hit the
hostname from outside my network and hit the public IP.  Web stuff works
just fine using this setup.  I noticed last night I could not login to
the server using the client from outside the network.  A Wireshark
capture showed me that the client kept trying to hit the private IP.  I
pulled up a command prompt and verified that my machine was resolving to
the correct public IP, and it was.  I even did a flush dns just to be
sure.  Still the client kept trying tot hit the private IP.  I went into
configure the account in the client, and it had the private address!  I
replaced it with the host name, hit OK, exited iFolder.... and when I
restarted iFolder it had switched back to the private IP again.  It just
will not change and use the hostname.  ARGGGG!

>>> On 6/24/2008 at 12:35 AM, in message
<397cc55b0806232135l7110b80dqac0b5b8139e50d7 at mail.gmail.com>,
"Alister Leask" <awleask at gmail.com> wrote:
I have but only one complaint about iFolder 3.6 on OES2: The bit in
the configuration where you tell it to look in specific contexts for
users, or give it a group name, is not as nice as the previous (3.2?)
version and it remembers whatever you put in there and you cant delete
it even if there is a typo.

Also - no Mac client, not that I've checked for a while. I'd rather
have that than a linux client quite frankly.

Otherwise, it just works.

I don't miss the encryption and all that other jazz that was in v2.

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 14:35, Peter Van Lone <petervl at gmail.com>
wrote:
> I can't wait to hear other people's replies ... I have been holding
> off forever it seems, waiting to get a sense that the product
finally
> had gotten some love.
>
> It seems like it has taken a couple steps in the right direction,
but
> it also seems as though there are really only one or maybe two devs
> putting any time into it at all. It feels like a "when you have
time"
> kind of assignment.
>
> Hopefully I'm wrong ....
>
> Peter
>
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Mike Brady <mbrady at ingenuityieq.com>
wrote:
>> Folks,
>>
>> I am wondering if anyone would mind sharing their experiences with
>> iFolder 3.6.  I have recently deployed it on OES2 Linux, and not
been
>> very impressed.  We are running iFolder 3.2 in production, and I
was
>> thinking I would migrate to 3.6.  The client seems terribly buggy,
>> connecting this time I boot, but maybe not the next time.  3.2 has
been
>> OK for us, and I supposed there isn't a reason to migrate if 3.6
isn't a
>> performance or stability improvement.  I just really have to wonder
if
>> my experience with this product is unique, or are there others
having
>> trouble with 3.6? To me this seems like an untested BETA level
product,
>> not something I would expect to see in a released Novell operating
>> system.
>>
>> Mike Brady
>> IT Specialist
>> _______________________________________________
>> Novell mailing list
>> Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk 
>> http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell 
>>
>
>
>
> --
> "There is a grandeur in this view of life, a life in which endless
> forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being,
> evolved."
>
> Charles Darwin
> The Origin of Species
>
>
> http://xkcd.com/167/ 
>
> www.the-brights.net 
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From petervl at gmail.com  Tue Jun 24 14:07:06 2008
From: petervl at gmail.com (Peter Van Lone)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 08:07:06 -0500
Subject: iFolder 3.6 on OES2 - Experiences?
In-Reply-To: <4860B83E.DAFB.002D.0@ingenuityieq.com>
References: <485FDD3A.E4C1.0068.0@oconee.k12.ga.us>
	<48602413.DAFB.002D.0@ingenuityieq.com>
	<68b791330806231935s6f3177adqd622371647892291@mail.gmail.com>
	<397cc55b0806232135l7110b80dqac0b5b8139e50d7@mail.gmail.com>
	<4860B83E.DAFB.002D.0@ingenuityieq.com>
Message-ID: <68b791330806240607w19fcbff9r5f29bf58a5400009@mail.gmail.com>

<sigh>

From mbrady at ingenuityieq.com  Tue Jun 24 14:09:02 2008
From: mbrady at ingenuityieq.com (Mike Brady)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:09:02 -0400
Subject: iFolder 3.6 on OES2 - Experiences?
In-Reply-To: <68b791330806240607w19fcbff9r5f29bf58a5400009@mail.gmail.com>
References: <485FDD3A.E4C1.0068.0@oconee.k12.ga.us>
	<48602413.DAFB.002D.0@ingenuityieq.com>
	<68b791330806231935s6f3177adqd622371647892291@mail.gmail.com>
	<397cc55b0806232135l7110b80dqac0b5b8139e50d7@mail.gmail.com>
	<4860B83E.DAFB.002D.0@ingenuityieq.com>
	<68b791330806240607w19fcbff9r5f29bf58a5400009@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4860B9B6.DAFB.002D.0@ingenuityieq.com>

Sounds encouraging...  :-)  care to elaborate?

>>> On 6/24/2008 at 9:07 AM, in message
<68b791330806240607w19fcbff9r5f29bf58a5400009 at mail.gmail.com>, "Peter
Van Lone" <petervl at gmail.com> wrote:
<sigh>
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From Peter.Koenig at uni-klu.ac.at  Tue Jun 24 14:25:45 2008
From: Peter.Koenig at uni-klu.ac.at (Peter Koenig)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:25:45 +0200
Subject: Antw: iFolder 3.6 on OES2 - Experiences?
In-Reply-To: <48602413.DAFB.002D.0@ingenuityieq.com>
References: <485FDD3A.E4C1.0068.0@oconee.k12.ga.us>
	<48602413.DAFB.002D.0@ingenuityieq.com>
Message-ID: <48611203.3907.0071.0@uni-klu.ac.at>

hi,

we use it since 2 months in production environment, but with a few testing users (15). 
works fine, without problems, runs on oes2 linux in xen, we do not enable our users on a OU-basis,
we put them into a group.
Now we have enabled some ifolder 2.1- power users with each having 8 to 10 gigs on iFolder.
The 3.6 client runs also on vista. Hope the Mac-Client will be released soon.

peter



>>> "Mike Brady" <mbrady at ingenuityieq.com> 24.06.2008 04:30 >>>
Folks,
 
I am wondering if anyone would mind sharing their experiences with
iFolder 3.6.  I have recently deployed it on OES2 Linux, and not been
very impressed.  We are running iFolder 3.2 in production, and I was
thinking I would migrate to 3.6.  The client seems terribly buggy,
connecting this time I boot, but maybe not the next time.  3.2 has been
OK for us, and I supposed there isn't a reason to migrate if 3.6 isn't a
performance or stability improvement.  I just really have to wonder if
my experience with this product is unique, or are there others having
trouble with 3.6? To me this seems like an untested BETA level product,
not something I would expect to see in a released Novell operating
system.
 
Mike Brady
IT Specialist
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From debbie_carraway at ncsu.edu  Tue Jun 24 21:53:03 2008
From: debbie_carraway at ncsu.edu (Debbie Carraway)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:53:03 -0400
Subject: Zenworks 6.5 & Adobe Photoshop CS3
In-Reply-To: <4860EFCB.4010109@nyp.org>
References: <4b2fce9e65fe.485fbd12@med.cornell.edu>
	<32a559c50806240446s5c51bf4epb1f4454b382858de@mail.gmail.com>
	<4860EFCB.4010109@nyp.org>
Message-ID: <op.uc9tmpz0ie2deo@bigredn.unity.ad.ncsu.edu>

Hi,

This is a little OT, but here's some automation.


For a free, somewhat lighter-weight scripting tool for Windows, try AutoIt  
(http://www.autoitscript.com/autoit3). You could do a couple of things;  
one would be putting an informational message up and waiting for msiexec  
to exit, another would be to automate "pressing the buttons", both pretty  
easy. Here's some sample code, use at your own risk. Just open it open in  
the SciTE editor that comes with the AutoIt download, save it as  
myfile.au3 and choose "build" to create an .exe.

==========================
;MSIEXEC Notifier
;Start the installer and wait for msiexec to finish,
;displaying a message box that alerts user that an install is in progress
;
Run("msiexec.exe /p P:\Zenapps\PhotoShopCS3-EXE-XP\Setup.exe --mode=silent  
--deploymentFile=P:\Zenapps\PhotoShopCS3-EXE-XP\Deployment.xml")
Msgbox(0,"Installing Adobe Photoshop CS3","Adobe Photoshop CS3 is now  
installing")
While ProcessExists("msiexec.exe")
    Sleep(10000);check every 10 seconds to see if it's still running.  
Measure is milliseconds.
Wend
If WinExists("Installing Adobe Photoshop CS3") then
	WinActivate("Installing Adobe Photoshop CS3")
	Send("{ENTER}")
Endif
Exit

==========================

==========================
;Photoshop Button Pusher
;Start the installer and push the buttons.
;
Run("msiexec.exe /p P:\Zenapps\PhotoShopCS3-EXE-XP\Setup.exe --mode=silent  
--deploymentFile=P:\Zenapps\PhotoShopCS3-EXE-XP\Deployment.xml")

WinWaitActive("Title of the window that has the buttons you want pushed")
;! means alt, then the letter you want sent. Don't forget the quote marks.
;Hold down alt when you are looking at the dialog box and look for the  
underlined letters.
Send("!n")


WinWaitActive("Title of the next window that has the buttons you want  
pushed")
Send ("!n) ;keep using the Send command until you've pushed all the  
buttons.

Exit
==========================





On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 08:59:55 -0400, Peter J. Cox <pjc9001 at nyp.org> wrote:

> Fred,
>     In that case the only thing I'd be able to recommends is WinBatch,
> you're able to turn off user input and script the mouse as well as
> keyboard input. I think the only problem we had was we had to push some
> dll's to older machines. I'll try to get more details today. You can
> find out more about the program at winbatch.com.
>
> If there are any questions or problems
> please contact me.
> _______________________
> Peter J. Cox
> Network Manager, IT
> NY Methodist Hospital
> 718-780-3250 Office
> 718-780-5993 HelpDesk
>
>
>
>
> fred james wrote:
>> Peter
>>
>> I already have the echo statements in - unfortunately they want a  
>> progress bar
>>
>>
>> Fred
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Peter J. Cox <pjc9001 at nyp.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Fred,
>>>  When we've were in a similar situation one of the techs used WinBatch  
>>> to automate the prompts. You could also place a "Please wait,  
>>> Installing..........." echo statement in the batch file, it's not a  
>>> progress bar but it should give a clue to your users.
>>> Hope that helps.
>>>
>>> If there are any questions or problems
>>> please contact me.
>>> _______________________
>>> Peter J. Cox
>>> Network Manager, IT
>>> NY Methodist Hospital
>>> 718-780-3250 Office
>>> 718-780-5993 HelpDesk
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: fred james <fubarsnafu69 at gmail.com>
>>> Date: Monday, June 23, 2008 9:06 am
>>> Subject: Zenworks 6.5 & Adobe Photoshop CS3
>>>
>>>
>>>> I am trying to install Adobe Photoshop CS3 - from Zenworks -
>>>>
>>>> The install takes 15 to 20 minutes to run.
>>>>
>>>> I have created the application.xml.override file and place it where it
>>>> needs to be. Then I run the follow command
>>>>
>>>> "P:\Zenapps\PhotoShopCS3-EXE-XP\Setup.exe" --mode=silent
>>>> --deploymentFile="P:\Zenapps\PhotoShopCS3-EXE-XP\Deployment.xml"
>>>>
>>>> If I run this directly from the zenworks object - their is no
>>>> indication that the install is taking place - I can watch Task Mgr and
>>>> see that it is working, but this wont work for the user - they need to
>>>> see something.
>>>>
>>>> If I put the command in a batch file and then run the batch file from
>>>> zen object - a DOS box opens and stays open for the entire install,
>>>> this is better - but their is no progress bar to speak of. So it looks
>>>> like it's locked up and just sets their. It does install though
>>>>
>>>> If I remove the --silent from command line - it prompts users a few
>>>> time and then shows the progress bar of the install - I like the
>>>> progress bar but not the prompts.
>>>>
>>>> I have tried to use WISE to repackage the app - but it has 27
>>>> diffefferent MSI that are launched and each one says to use setup.exe
>>>>
>>>> I need to have it run without user intervention and have a progress
>>>> bar of the install status
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> thanks
>>>>
>>>> Fred
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From thorsten at thorstenkampe.de  Thu Jun 26 09:02:32 2008
From: thorsten at thorstenkampe.de (Thorsten Kampe)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 10:02:32 +0200
Subject: U3 drives and Novell
References: <4860E2F0.6D39.0014.3@nwpg.gov.za>
Message-ID: <g3vif5$fbp$1@ger.gmane.org>

* Thys de Beer (Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:05:04 +0200)
> I have been waiting and waiting but nobody refers or ask about
> this......U3 support for Novell products?, does anybody know if their
> is plans for this......I can really see our support guys using this
> BIG time...we as government will never have the money to have a laptop
> for each support techie...so the next best thing will be this....SO
> novell come -on bring us theu3 version of ...

ConsoleOne and iManager (the "Workstation Edition") work perfectly from 
a USB stick. I use U3 editions only for software that doesn't run 
without installation from the stick (like Babylon and antivirus 
software)

Thorsten


From petervl at gmail.com  Thu Jun 26 14:00:04 2008
From: petervl at gmail.com (Peter Van Lone)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 08:00:04 -0500
Subject: U3 drives and Novell
In-Reply-To: <g3vif5$fbp$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <4860E2F0.6D39.0014.3@nwpg.gov.za> <g3vif5$fbp$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <68b791330806260600r76c4ca46rb3a572eb967e44dc@mail.gmail.com>

pardon my ignorance ... but what the he-double-hockey-sticks is a "U3 edition"?

I know that some company makes thumb drives called U3 that have a
fancy (god, I hate it and always disable it) auto-run thing. Do 3rd
parties now develop application versions just for that frelling thing?
Is that what you are all talking about?

Or, is "U3" some new kind of thin app like thinstall or the others,
where you can run an application anywhere, without impacting the local
machine --- so it is just another company doing that kind of app
packaging?

Peter

On 6/26/08, Thorsten Kampe <thorsten at thorstenkampe.de> wrote:
> * Thys de Beer (Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:05:04 +0200)
> > I have been waiting and waiting but nobody refers or ask about
> > this......U3 support for Novell products?, does anybody know if their
> > is plans for this......I can really see our support guys using this
> > BIG time...we as government will never have the money to have a laptop
> > for each support techie...so the next best thing will be this....SO
> > novell come -on bring us theu3 version of ...
>
> ConsoleOne and iManager (the "Workstation Edition") work perfectly from
> a USB stick. I use U3 editions only for software that doesn't run
> without installation from the stick (like Babylon and antivirus
> software)
>
> Thorsten
>
> _______________________________________________
> Novell mailing list
> Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
> http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell
>


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forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being,
evolved."

Charles Darwin
The Origin of Species


http://xkcd.com/167/

www.the-brights.net

From thys at nwpg.gov.za  Thu Jun 26 14:34:17 2008
From: thys at nwpg.gov.za (Thys de Beer)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:34:17 +0200
Subject: U3 drives and Novell
In-Reply-To: <68b791330806260600r76c4ca46rb3a572eb967e44dc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4860E2F0.6D39.0014.3@nwpg.gov.za> <g3vif5$fbp$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<68b791330806260600r76c4ca46rb3a572eb967e44dc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4863B6F9.6D39.0014.3@nwpg.gov.za>

Hi peter,


No you are right the U3 is the thingy, were you install our desktop to a u3 drive (special flashdrives), you can take that then to any desktop plug it is and run your own pc anywhere  (but limited to apps ported for this!! hence my question)....... BUt (ALWAYS A BUT) from my good friends over at the groupwise forum they pointed me to something much much better .. www.mojopac.com which has a free version and you can install on any USB drive or extrenal drive, and any application, take that with you and hwall you got a laptop in your pocket...just add a PC........ i think it is real nifty ....of course their is the commercial and enterprise edition as well!!!! ....take 10 min and downlaod and play...your own portable virtual pc ...


Kind Regards,

Thys de Beer
018 388 3818
082 456 1891
NOSSS - Network Operating  Systems Support Services
  


 

>>> On 2008/06/26 at 03:00 PM, in message <68b791330806260600r76c4ca46rb3a572eb967e44dc at mail.gmail.com>, "Peter Van Lone" <petervl at gmail.com> wrote:

pardon my ignorance ... but what the he-double-hockey-sticks is a "U3 edition"?

I know that some company makes thumb drives called U3 that have a
fancy (god, I hate it and always disable it) auto-run thing. Do 3rd
parties now develop application versions just for that frelling thing?
Is that what you are all talking about?

Or, is "U3" some new kind of thin app like thinstall or the others,
where you can run an application anywhere, without impacting the local
machine --- so it is just another company doing that kind of app
packaging?

Peter

On 6/26/08, Thorsten Kampe <thorsten at thorstenkampe.de> wrote:
> * Thys de Beer (Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:05:04 +0200)
> > I have been waiting and waiting but nobody refers or ask about
> > this......U3 support for Novell products?, does anybody know if their
> > is plans for this......I can really see our support guys using this
> > BIG time...we as government will never have the money to have a laptop
> > for each support techie...so the next best thing will be this....SO
> > novell come -on bring us theu3 version of ...
>
> ConsoleOne and iManager (the "Workstation Edition") work perfectly from
> a USB stick. I use U3 editions only for software that doesn't run
> without installation from the stick (like Babylon and antivirus
> software)
>
> Thorsten
>
> _______________________________________________
> Novell mailing list
> Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
> http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell
>


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forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being,
evolved."

Charles Darwin
The Origin of Species


http://xkcd.com/167/

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From Sami.Kapanen at hamk.fi  Thu Jun 26 14:43:46 2008
From: Sami.Kapanen at hamk.fi (Sami Kapanen)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:43:46 +0300
Subject: U3 drives and Novell
Message-ID: <4863C7420200004E0003635A@com-gwweb.hamk.fi>

heh, I thought about the samething..

as for the U3 memorysticks, we have told that those are totally unsupported and should not be used in our org =)

-sk

>>> "Peter Van Lone" <petervl at gmail.com> 06/26/08 4:00 PM >>>
pardon my ignorance ... but what the he-double-hockey-sticks is a "U3 edition"?

I know that some company makes thumb drives called U3 that have a
fancy (god, I hate it and always disable it) auto-run thing. Do 3rd
parties now develop application versions just for that frelling thing?
Is that what you are all talking about?

Or, is "U3" some new kind of thin app like thinstall or the others,
where you can run an application anywhere, without impacting the local
machine --- so it is just another company doing that kind of app
packaging?

Peter

On 6/26/08, Thorsten Kampe <thorsten at thorstenkampe.de> wrote:
> * Thys de Beer (Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:05:04 +0200)
> > I have been waiting and waiting but nobody refers or ask about
> > this......U3 support for Novell products?, does anybody know if their
> > is plans for this......I can really see our support guys using this
> > BIG time...we as government will never have the money to have a laptop
> > for each support techie...so the next best thing will be this....SO
> > novell come -on bring us theu3 version of ...
>
> ConsoleOne and iManager (the "Workstation Edition") work perfectly from
> a USB stick. I use U3 editions only for software that doesn't run
> without installation from the stick (like Babylon and antivirus
> software)
>
> Thorsten
>
> _______________________________________________
> Novell mailing list
> Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
> http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell
>


-- 
"There is a grandeur in this view of life, a life in which endless
forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being,
evolved."

Charles Darwin
The Origin of Species


http://xkcd.com/167/

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From joea at j4computers.com  Thu Jun 26 16:46:33 2008
From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:46:33 -0400
Subject: U3 drives and Novell
Message-ID: <48638199020000850005E349@FS-LIN-OES>

Making no mention of the security aspects of this.  

joe a.

>>> "Sami Kapanen" <Sami.Kapanen at hamk.fi> 06/26/08 9:46 AM >>>
heh, I thought about the samething..

as for the U3 memorysticks, we have told that those are totally unsupported and should not be used in our org =)

-sk

>>> "Peter Van Lone" <petervl at gmail.com> 06/26/08 4:00 PM >>>
pardon my ignorance ... but what the he-double-hockey-sticks is a "U3 edition"?

I know that some company makes thumb drives called U3 that have a
fancy (god, I hate it and always disable it) auto-run thing. Do 3rd
parties now develop application versions just for that frelling thing?
Is that what you are all talking about?

Or, is "U3" some new kind of thin app like thinstall or the others,
where you can run an application anywhere, without impacting the local
machine --- so it is just another company doing that kind of app
packaging?

Peter

On 6/26/08, Thorsten Kampe <thorsten at thorstenkampe.de> wrote:
> * Thys de Beer (Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:05:04 +0200)
> > I have been waiting and waiting but nobody refers or ask about
> > this......U3 support for Novell products?, does anybody know if their
> > is plans for this......I can really see our support guys using this
> > BIG time...we as government will never have the money to have a laptop
> > for each support techie...so the next best thing will be this....SO
> > novell come -on bring us theu3 version of ...
>
> ConsoleOne and iManager (the "Workstation Edition") work perfectly from
> a USB stick. I use U3 editions only for software that doesn't run
> without installation from the stick (like Babylon and antivirus
> software)
>
> Thorsten
>
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From geoffreycarman at gmail.com  Thu Jun 26 16:50:04 2008
From: geoffreycarman at gmail.com (Geoffrey Carman)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:50:04 -0400
Subject: U3 drives and Novell
In-Reply-To: <48638199020000850005E349@FS-LIN-OES>
References: <48638199020000850005E349@FS-LIN-OES>
Message-ID: <993788ac0806260850i2dac3852sba928e0dfe8e5131@mail.gmail.com>

A coworker of mine found a way to strip off the U3 software from my
key.  Very annoying stuff...

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 11:46 AM, joea at j4computers.com
<joea at j4computers.com> wrote:
> Making no mention of the security aspects of this.
>
> joe a.
>
>>>> "Sami Kapanen" <Sami.Kapanen at hamk.fi> 06/26/08 9:46 AM >>>
> heh, I thought about the samething..
>
> as for the U3 memorysticks, we have told that those are totally unsupported and should not be used in our org =)
>
> -sk
>
>>>> "Peter Van Lone" <petervl at gmail.com> 06/26/08 4:00 PM >>>
> pardon my ignorance ... but what the he-double-hockey-sticks is a "U3 edition"?
>
> I know that some company makes thumb drives called U3 that have a
> fancy (god, I hate it and always disable it) auto-run thing. Do 3rd
> parties now develop application versions just for that frelling thing?
> Is that what you are all talking about?
>
> Or, is "U3" some new kind of thin app like thinstall or the others,
> where you can run an application anywhere, without impacting the local
> machine --- so it is just another company doing that kind of app
> packaging?
>
> Peter
>
> On 6/26/08, Thorsten Kampe <thorsten at thorstenkampe.de> wrote:
>> * Thys de Beer (Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:05:04 +0200)
>> > I have been waiting and waiting but nobody refers or ask about
>> > this......U3 support for Novell products?, does anybody know if their
>> > is plans for this......I can really see our support guys using this
>> > BIG time...we as government will never have the money to have a laptop
>> > for each support techie...so the next best thing will be this....SO
>> > novell come -on bring us theu3 version of ...
>>
>> ConsoleOne and iManager (the "Workstation Edition") work perfectly from
>> a USB stick. I use U3 editions only for software that doesn't run
>> without installation from the stick (like Babylon and antivirus
>> software)
>>
>> Thorsten
>>
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>
>
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> forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being,
> evolved."
>
> Charles Darwin
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>
>
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>
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From cjf at calfrye.com  Thu Jun 26 16:58:14 2008
From: cjf at calfrye.com (Cal Frye)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:58:14 -0400
Subject: U3 drives and Novell
In-Reply-To: <4863B6F9.6D39.0014.3@nwpg.gov.za>
References: <4860E2F0.6D39.0014.3@nwpg.gov.za>
	<g3vif5$fbp$1@ger.gmane.org>	<68b791330806260600r76c4ca46rb3a572eb967e44dc@mail.gmail.com>
	<4863B6F9.6D39.0014.3@nwpg.gov.za>
Message-ID: <4863BC96.5020800@calfrye.com>

Thys de Beer wrote:
> my good friends over at the groupwise forum they pointed me to
> something much much better .. www.mojopac.com which has a free
> version and you can install on any USB drive or extrenal drive, and
> any application, take that with you and hwall you got a laptop in
> your pocket...just add a PC........ 

It does sound interesting, and I think it should be useful for 
diagnosing/fixing hosed/infected PCs, but (always a but ;-) I don't 
think this protects you from keyloggers, specifically, that may be 
present on kiosk or other public machines since the host OS is still 
running.

Not to suggest it has no utility, but just a warning...

-- 
Regards,
-- Cal Frye, Network Administrator, Oberlin College

    www.calfrye.com,  www.pitalabs.com


"This is the moment freedom begins, the moment you realize someone else
has been writing your story, and it's time you took the pen from his
hand and started writing it yourself." -- Bill Moyers.

From RGrein at tpchd.org  Thu Jun 26 18:52:41 2008
From: RGrein at tpchd.org (Randy Grein)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 10:52:41 -0700
Subject: U3 drives and Novell
In-Reply-To: <4863BC96.5020800@calfrye.com>
References: <4860E2F0.6D39.0014.3@nwpg.gov.za>
	<g3vif5$fbp$1@ger.gmane.org>	<68b791330806260600r76c4ca46rb3a572eb967e44dc@mail.gmail.com>
	<4863B6F9.6D39.0014.3@nwpg.gov.za><4863B6F9.6D39.0014.3@nwpg.gov.za>
	<4863BC96.5020800@calfrye.com>
Message-ID: <486374FF.811E.0072.0@tpchd.org>

An observation I frequently point out to those who want to use Citrix for 'Security' because of concerns about keystroke loggers.

Randy Grein
Sr. Network Engineer


>>> Cal Frye <cjf at calfrye.com> 6/26/2008 8:58 AM >>>
Thys de Beer wrote:
> my good friends over at the groupwise forum they pointed me to
> something much much better .. www.mojopac.com which has a free
> version and you can install on any USB drive or extrenal drive, and
> any application, take that with you and hwall you got a laptop in
> your pocket...just add a PC........ 

It does sound interesting, and I think it should be useful for 
diagnosing/fixing hosed/infected PCs, but (always a but ;-) I don't 
think this protects you from keyloggers, specifically, that may be 
present on kiosk or other public machines since the host OS is still 
running.

Not to suggest it has no utility, but just a warning...

-- 
Regards,
-- Cal Frye, Network Administrator, Oberlin College

    www.calfrye.com,  www.pitalabs.com 


"This is the moment freedom begins, the moment you realize someone else
has been writing your story, and it's time you took the pen from his
hand and started writing it yourself." -- Bill Moyers.
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From joea at j4computers.com  Thu Jun 26 19:51:33 2008
From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 14:51:33 -0400
Subject: Netware, SAA or something like it.
Message-ID: <4863ACF5020000850005E34D@FS-LIN-OES>

Any one know where there is some expertise on this?  Or at least some decent documentation?  Sorry, I am not even certain what the product is/was actually named.   I do have access to the server, so can scare up NLM names and such.

At a place I am familiar with, there is a 4.11 server running some kind of SAA/tn3270 stuff that needs to keep running for "a while". 

Mean time, it is hindering modernization efforts.  Specifically, moving eDirectory to Linux servers (OES1), presents an issue where that server is not seen.  Mainly, one would presume, due to the fact that there is only IP on Linux and the 4.11 box seems to have only IPX.

Having no idea how the SAA (?) stuff works, gives one pause as to how to proceed.  Documentation seems sparse, at this moment.

It seems the most sensible thing, at first blush, to remove DS and reinstall this box in it's own tree.  However, as noted, one does not know what effect this will have on the "application".  Does it try to log in to DS on startup, or at some other time?  If so, will we be able to convince it to use another set of credentials?   Perhaps not even the shadow knows.

joe a

From pjc9001 at nyp.org  Thu Jun 26 20:04:56 2008
From: pjc9001 at nyp.org (Peter J. Cox)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:04:56 -0400
Subject: Netware, SAA or something like it.
In-Reply-To: <4863ACF5020000850005E34D@FS-LIN-OES>
References: <4863ACF5020000850005E34D@FS-LIN-OES>
Message-ID: <4863E858.4040909@nyp.org>

Joe,
    From what I remember the NLM didn't use any NDS authentication (when 
we used it we didn't do any of the "fancy" stuff of ad-hoc virtual 
terminals though). The boxes biggest thing (to us/our mainframe guys) 
was that from the mainframe side it appeared just like a 3174 controller 
unit (you just configured the 255 terminal connections virtually instead 
of each port per card as on the big iron stuff). I remember getting our 
chops busted during the initial setup/configuration (defining each of 
the "terminals" or "sessions", but it didn't really care about what NDS 
user was running it), if you are also using the printing app (hostprint 
I believe it was called) that might use an NDS connection but the basic 
Netware SAA Gateway didn't). Then again it's been awhile, I could be wrong.

If there are any questions or problems
please contact me.
_______________________
Peter J. Cox
Network Manager, IT
NY Methodist Hospital
718-780-3250 Office
718-780-5993 HelpDesk




joea at j4computers.com wrote:
> Any one know where there is some expertise on this?  Or at least some decent documentation?  Sorry, I am not even certain what the product is/was actually named.   I do have access to the server, so can scare up NLM names and such.
>
> At a place I am familiar with, there is a 4.11 server running some kind of SAA/tn3270 stuff that needs to keep running for "a while". 
>
> Mean time, it is hindering modernization efforts.  Specifically, moving eDirectory to Linux servers (OES1), presents an issue where that server is not seen.  Mainly, one would presume, due to the fact that there is only IP on Linux and the 4.11 box seems to have only IPX.
>
> Having no idea how the SAA (?) stuff works, gives one pause as to how to proceed.  Documentation seems sparse, at this moment.
>
> It seems the most sensible thing, at first blush, to remove DS and reinstall this box in it's own tree.  However, as noted, one does not know what effect this will have on the "application".  Does it try to log in to DS on startup, or at some other time?  If so, will we be able to convince it to use another set of credentials?   Perhaps not even the shadow knows.
>
> joe a
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From RGrein at tpchd.org  Thu Jun 26 20:08:09 2008
From: RGrein at tpchd.org (Randy Grein)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:08:09 -0700
Subject: Netware, SAA or something like it.
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Whoah, blast from the past! Pretty sure you're talking about NetWare for SAA. I have a tiny amount of experience with this, in the long-ago timeframe. IIRC the tree did not matter to the service - that is, there is no user validation or anything like that. It may even use just config files so you could (in theory) remove directory services from the server completely and have it provide gateway services. However I'm not sure and reinstalling might be tough with no support, etc. Can you make an image of the server and test in the lab, virtualized or otherwise? Otherwise there's a risk of removing the software without assurance that you can reinstall it.

The other option might be to add IPX support to the Linux server, 'for a while'. I was just in ours and saw the IPX option for connectivity.


Randy Grein
Sr. Network Engineer


>>> "joea at j4computers.com" <joea at j4computers.com> 6/26/2008 11:51 AM >>>
Any one know where there is some expertise on this?  Or at least some decent documentation?  Sorry, I am not even certain what the product is/was actually named.   I do have access to the server, so can scare up NLM names and such.

At a place I am familiar with, there is a 4.11 server running some kind of SAA/tn3270 stuff that needs to keep running for "a while". 

Mean time, it is hindering modernization efforts.  Specifically, moving eDirectory to Linux servers (OES1), presents an issue where that server is not seen.  Mainly, one would presume, due to the fact that there is only IP on Linux and the 4.11 box seems to have only IPX.

Having no idea how the SAA (?) stuff works, gives one pause as to how to proceed.  Documentation seems sparse, at this moment.

It seems the most sensible thing, at first blush, to remove DS and reinstall this box in it's own tree.  However, as noted, one does not know what effect this will have on the "application".  Does it try to log in to DS on startup, or at some other time?  If so, will we be able to convince it to use another set of credentials?   Perhaps not even the shadow knows.

joe a
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From joea at j4computers.com  Thu Jun 26 21:04:43 2008
From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:04:43 -0400
Subject: Netware, SAA or something like it.
Message-ID: <4863BE1B020000850005E351@FS-LIN-OES>

I may take you up on the offer.

joe a.

>>> "Peter J. Cox" <pjc9001 at nyp.org> 06/26/08 3:07 PM >>>
Joe,
    From what I remember the NLM didn't use any NDS authentication (when 
we used it we didn't do any of the "fancy" stuff of ad-hoc virtual 
terminals though). The boxes biggest thing (to us/our mainframe guys) 
was that from the mainframe side it appeared just like a 3174 controller 
unit (you just configured the 255 terminal connections virtually instead 
of each port per card as on the big iron stuff). I remember getting our 
chops busted during the initial setup/configuration (defining each of 
the "terminals" or "sessions", but it didn't really care about what NDS 
user was running it), if you are also using the printing app (hostprint 
I believe it was called) that might use an NDS connection but the basic 
Netware SAA Gateway didn't). Then again it's been awhile, I could be wrong.

If there are any questions or problems
please contact me.
_______________________
Peter J. Cox
Network Manager, IT
NY Methodist Hospital
718-780-3250 Office
718-780-5993 HelpDesk




joea at j4computers.com wrote:
> Any one know where there is some expertise on this?  Or at least some decent documentation?  Sorry, I am not even certain what the product is/was actually named.   I do have access to the server, so can scare up NLM names and such.
>
> At a place I am familiar with, there is a 4.11 server running some kind of SAA/tn3270 stuff that needs to keep running for "a while". 
>
> Mean time, it is hindering modernization efforts.  Specifically, moving eDirectory to Linux servers (OES1), presents an issue where that server is not seen.  Mainly, one would presume, due to the fact that there is only IP on Linux and the 4.11 box seems to have only IPX.
>
> Having no idea how the SAA (?) stuff works, gives one pause as to how to proceed.  Documentation seems sparse, at this moment.
>
> It seems the most sensible thing, at first blush, to remove DS and reinstall this box in it's own tree.  However, as noted, one does not know what effect this will have on the "application".  Does it try to log in to DS on startup, or at some other time?  If so, will we be able to convince it to use another set of credentials?   Perhaps not even the shadow knows.
>
> joe a
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From joea at j4computers.com  Thu Jun 26 21:06:26 2008
From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:06:26 -0400
Subject: Netware, SAA or something like it.
Message-ID: <4863BE82020000850005E355@FS-LIN-OES>

Wow.  My cup overfloweth.

I was considering IPX on linux, but seems that one cannot bind both IP and IPX at the same time/same NIC on OES SLES.  At least I cannot see how.

joe a.

>>> "Randy Grein" <RGrein at tpchd.org> 06/26/08 3:09 PM >>>
Whoah, blast from the past! Pretty sure you're talking about NetWare for SAA. I have a tiny amount of experience with this, in the long-ago timeframe. IIRC the tree did not matter to the service - that is, there is no user validation or anything like that. It may even use just config files so you could (in theory) remove directory services from the server completely and have it provide gateway services. However I'm not sure and reinstalling might be tough with no support, etc. Can you make an image of the server and test in the lab, virtualized or otherwise? Otherwise there's a risk of removing the software without assurance that you can reinstall it.

The other option might be to add IPX support to the Linux server, 'for a while'. I was just in ours and saw the IPX option for connectivity.


Randy Grein
Sr. Network Engineer


>>> "joea at j4computers.com" <joea at j4computers.com> 6/26/2008 11:51 AM >>>
Any one know where there is some expertise on this?  Or at least some decent documentation?  Sorry, I am not even certain what the product is/was actually named.   I do have access to the server, so can scare up NLM names and such.

At a place I am familiar with, there is a 4.11 server running some kind of SAA/tn3270 stuff that needs to keep running for "a while". 

Mean time, it is hindering modernization efforts.  Specifically, moving eDirectory to Linux servers (OES1), presents an issue where that server is not seen.  Mainly, one would presume, due to the fact that there is only IP on Linux and the 4.11 box seems to have only IPX.

Having no idea how the SAA (?) stuff works, gives one pause as to how to proceed.  Documentation seems sparse, at this moment.

It seems the most sensible thing, at first blush, to remove DS and reinstall this box in it's own tree.  However, as noted, one does not know what effect this will have on the "application".  Does it try to log in to DS on startup, or at some other time?  If so, will we be able to convince it to use another set of credentials?   Perhaps not even the shadow knows.

joe a
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From KPARRIS at ed.sc.gov  Thu Jun 26 21:23:25 2008
From: KPARRIS at ed.sc.gov (Kevin Parris)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:23:25 -0400
Subject: Netware, SAA or something like it.
In-Reply-To: <4863ACF5020000850005E34D@FS-LIN-OES>
References: <4863ACF5020000850005E34D@FS-LIN-OES>
Message-ID: <4863C27D02000018004E45B5@sdecl2.sde.state.sc.us>

Before you do much with that server, I suggest you have a serious heart-to-heart with the techies who manage the system at "the other end" of the SAA gateway service. At the most basic, the SAA gateway performs a translation - client software on an end-user machine communicates with 'one side' of the SAA and the mainframe on the "other side" of the SAA 'thinks' it is communicating with a 3270-type terminal via a cluster controller.

The hindrance to your modernization is actually whatever is on the other end of the SAA, not really so much the gateway server itself.  In a few minutes of searching Novell.com, every reference I can find to Netware and SAA is ten years old.  Find out if they have modernized the mainframe enough to support other gateway methods, and you might just be able to take the SAA system completely out.  Or show them that their modernization effort is pointed at the wrong parts of their environment.

Documentation always was sparse, as I recall from installing and maintaining it for quite a few years, but both the mainframe and the SAA gateway server have been gone from here a while now.  What documentation there was, was mostly in mainframe techie terms (and I was a mainframe systems programmer at the time) not really oriented so much for the network guys (which was me, then, too).

The SAA does have options to do some end-user authentication (when a client tries to connect to a mainframe session) but that doesn't necessarily have to be enabled, if I recall correctly it could be set to generic or anonymous - but don't quote me on that.  Mine was setup to track the eDirectory id from the client machine.  If the one you're looking at is doing that, too, then taking it out of the tree could impair usability.

I would advise finding a Ghost-type tool and be sure you have a restorable full-disk image (MBR track and everything) ready before you mess with it, if they really can't live without it.

>>> "joea at j4computers.com" <joea at j4computers.com> 06/26/08 2:51 PM >>>
Any one know where there is some expertise on this?  Or at least some decent documentation?  Sorry, I am not even certain what the product is/was actually named.   I do have access to the server, so can scare up NLM names and such.

At a place I am familiar with, there is a 4.11 server running some kind of SAA/tn3270 stuff that needs to keep running for "a while". 

Mean time, it is hindering modernization efforts.  Specifically, moving eDirectory to Linux servers (OES1), presents an issue where that server is not seen.  Mainly, one would presume, due to the fact that there is only IP on Linux and the 4.11 box seems to have only IPX.

Having no idea how the SAA (?) stuff works, gives one pause as to how to proceed.  Documentation seems sparse, at this moment.

It seems the most sensible thing, at first blush, to remove DS and reinstall this box in it's own tree.  However, as noted, one does not know what effect this will have on the "application".  Does it try to log in to DS on startup, or at some other time?  If so, will we be able to convince it to use another set of credentials?   Perhaps not even the shadow knows.

joe a



From dtran at ssc.ucla.edu  Thu Jun 26 21:28:48 2008
From: dtran at ssc.ucla.edu (Daniel Tran)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:28:48 -0700
Subject: Netware, SAA or something like it.
In-Reply-To: <486386B1.811E.0072.0@tpchd.org>
References: <4863ACF5020000850005E34D@FS-LIN-OES>
	<486386B1.811E.0072.0@tpchd.org>
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Whoah ... Really blast from the past ...
FWIW, I still have the original red box netware for SAA 64 session
(version 1.38) with 3.5" and cdrom media.
And ... box of netware for VMS v2.0a

Let me know if you want to dig up something

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Subject: Re: Netware, SAA or something like it.

Whoah, blast from the past! Pretty sure you're talking about NetWare for
SAA. I have a tiny amount of experience with this, in the long-ago
timeframe. IIRC the tree did not matter to the service - that is, there
is no user validation or anything like that. It may even use just config
files so you could (in theory) remove directory services from the server
completely and have it provide gateway services. However I'm not sure
and reinstalling might be tough with no support, etc. Can you make an
image of the server and test in the lab, virtualized or otherwise?
Otherwise there's a risk of removing the software without assurance that
you can reinstall it.

The other option might be to add IPX support to the Linux server, 'for a
while'. I was just in ours and saw the IPX option for connectivity.


Randy Grein
Sr. Network Engineer


>>> "joea at j4computers.com" <joea at j4computers.com> 6/26/2008 11:51 AM >>>
Any one know where there is some expertise on this?  Or at least some
decent documentation?  Sorry, I am not even certain what the product
is/was actually named.   I do have access to the server, so can scare up
NLM names and such.

At a place I am familiar with, there is a 4.11 server running some kind
of SAA/tn3270 stuff that needs to keep running for "a while". 

Mean time, it is hindering modernization efforts.  Specifically, moving
eDirectory to Linux servers (OES1), presents an issue where that server
is not seen.  Mainly, one would presume, due to the fact that there is
only IP on Linux and the 4.11 box seems to have only IPX.

Having no idea how the SAA (?) stuff works, gives one pause as to how to
proceed.  Documentation seems sparse, at this moment.

It seems the most sensible thing, at first blush, to remove DS and
reinstall this box in it's own tree.  However, as noted, one does not
know what effect this will have on the "application".  Does it try to
log in to DS on startup, or at some other time?  If so, will we be able
to convince it to use another set of credentials?   Perhaps not even the
shadow knows.

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From pjc9001 at nyp.org  Thu Jun 26 21:34:03 2008
From: pjc9001 at nyp.org (Peter J. Cox)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:34:03 -0400
Subject: Netware, SAA or something like it.
In-Reply-To: <4863C27D02000018004E45B5@sdecl2.sde.state.sc.us>
References: <4863ACF5020000850005E34D@FS-LIN-OES>
	<4863C27D02000018004E45B5@sdecl2.sde.state.sc.us>
Message-ID: <4863FD3B.1020400@nyp.org>

Kevin's quite right. We did away with ours once they enabled IP on the 
mainframe, then our users just did a TN3270 session instead. I remember 
being tortured (espescially by the printing portion when moves occured) 
by this box fo so long but we migrated over 200 users in under 2 weeks 
after IP was setup (most/all of them had W95 at the time I believe). It 
was just a case of "choose this and accept the defaults" for the TN3270 
app (IRMA for windows I think?).

If there are any questions or problems
please contact me.
_______________________
Peter J. Cox
Network Manager, IT
NY Methodist Hospital
718-780-3250 Office
718-780-5993 HelpDesk




Kevin Parris wrote:
> Before you do much with that server, I suggest you have a serious heart-to-heart with the techies who manage the system at "the other end" of the SAA gateway service. At the most basic, the SAA gateway performs a translation - client software on an end-user machine communicates with 'one side' of the SAA and the mainframe on the "other side" of the SAA 'thinks' it is communicating with a 3270-type terminal via a cluster controller.
>
> The hindrance to your modernization is actually whatever is on the other end of the SAA, not really so much the gateway server itself.  In a few minutes of searching Novell.com, every reference I can find to Netware and SAA is ten years old.  Find out if they have modernized the mainframe enough to support other gateway methods, and you might just be able to take the SAA system completely out.  Or show them that their modernization effort is pointed at the wrong parts of their environment.
>
> Documentation always was sparse, as I recall from installing and maintaining it for quite a few years, but both the mainframe and the SAA gateway server have been gone from here a while now.  What documentation there was, was mostly in mainframe techie terms (and I was a mainframe systems programmer at the time) not really oriented so much for the network guys (which was me, then, too).
>
> The SAA does have options to do some end-user authentication (when a client tries to connect to a mainframe session) but that doesn't necessarily have to be enabled, if I recall correctly it could be set to generic or anonymous - but don't quote me on that.  Mine was setup to track the eDirectory id from the client machine.  If the one you're looking at is doing that, too, then taking it out of the tree could impair usability.
>
> I would advise finding a Ghost-type tool and be sure you have a restorable full-disk image (MBR track and everything) ready before you mess with it, if they really can't live without it.
>
>   
>>>> "joea at j4computers.com" <joea at j4computers.com> 06/26/08 2:51 PM >>>
>>>>         
> Any one know where there is some expertise on this?  Or at least some decent documentation?  Sorry, I am not even certain what the product is/was actually named.   I do have access to the server, so can scare up NLM names and such.
>
> At a place I am familiar with, there is a 4.11 server running some kind of SAA/tn3270 stuff that needs to keep running for "a while". 
>
> Mean time, it is hindering modernization efforts.  Specifically, moving eDirectory to Linux servers (OES1), presents an issue where that server is not seen.  Mainly, one would presume, due to the fact that there is only IP on Linux and the 4.11 box seems to have only IPX.
>
> Having no idea how the SAA (?) stuff works, gives one pause as to how to proceed.  Documentation seems sparse, at this moment.
>
> It seems the most sensible thing, at first blush, to remove DS and reinstall this box in it's own tree.  However, as noted, one does not know what effect this will have on the "application".  Does it try to log in to DS on startup, or at some other time?  If so, will we be able to convince it to use another set of credentials?   Perhaps not even the shadow knows.
>
> joe a
>
>
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From joea at j4computers.com  Fri Jun 27 16:54:20 2008
From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 11:54:20 -0400
Subject: Netware, SAA or something like it.
Message-ID: <4864D4EC020000850005E35E@FS-LIN-OES>

Connecting to the mainframe via some terminal emulation, via IP, say, would be ideal.  But it is not likely, given current cirumstances.  I cannot go further than that.

I have determined that NW for SAA 3.00.2 is installed.  I gather there is mininimal DS interaction in that version.  But not "zero" interation.

Given that the most rational path is apparently not open I give thought to:

- removing DS on the 4.11 box, and reinstalling DS into a new tree.

- upgrading the 4.11 box to 5.1, for which we have the orginal media.  This should allow DS IP connectivity.

I am warmer to the first thought, as it would remove this thorn entirely from the main tree.  If not from my side.

However, in either case, one is not confident there are no DS (edir) interations, at startup, connect or run time, that NW for SAA will find intolerable, thus refuse to play.   If it were certain there were zero interations (check for object, user login, etc,) then it would seem simplest to remove DS and reinstall into a new tree.

joe a.

>>> "Peter J. Cox" <pjc9001 at nyp.org> 06/26/08 4:35 PM >>>
Kevin's quite right. We did away with ours once they enabled IP on the 
mainframe, then our users just did a TN3270 session instead. I remember 
being tortured (espescially by the printing portion when moves occured) 
by this box fo so long but we migrated over 200 users in under 2 weeks 
after IP was setup (most/all of them had W95 at the time I believe). It 
was just a case of "choose this and accept the defaults" for the TN3270 
app (IRMA for windows I think?).

If there are any questions or problems
please contact me.
_______________________
Peter J. Cox
Network Manager, IT
NY Methodist Hospital
718-780-3250 Office
718-780-5993 HelpDesk




Kevin Parris wrote:
> Before you do much with that server, I suggest you have a serious heart-to-heart with the techies who manage the system at "the other end" of the SAA gateway service. At the most basic, the SAA gateway performs a translation - client software on an end-user machine communicates with 'one side' of the SAA and the mainframe on the "other side" of the SAA 'thinks' it is communicating with a 3270-type terminal via a cluster controller.
>
> The hindrance to your modernization is actually whatever is on the other end of the SAA, not really so much the gateway server itself.  In a few minutes of searching Novell.com, every reference I can find to Netware and SAA is ten years old.  Find out if they have modernized the mainframe enough to support other gateway methods, and you might just be able to take the SAA system completely out.  Or show them that their modernization effort is pointed at the wrong parts of their environment.
>
> Documentation always was sparse, as I recall from installing and maintaining it for quite a few years, but both the mainframe and the SAA gateway server have been gone from here a while now.  What documentation there was, was mostly in mainframe techie terms (and I was a mainframe systems programmer at the time) not really oriented so much for the network guys (which was me, then, too).
>
> The SAA does have options to do some end-user authentication (when a client tries to connect to a mainframe session) but that doesn't necessarily have to be enabled, if I recall correctly it could be set to generic or anonymous - but don't quote me on that.  Mine was setup to track the eDirectory id from the client machine.  If the one you're looking at is doing that, too, then taking it out of the tree could impair usability.
>
> I would advise finding a Ghost-type tool and be sure you have a restorable full-disk image (MBR track and everything) ready before you mess with it, if they really can't live without it.
>
>   
>>>> "joea at j4computers.com" <joea at j4computers.com> 06/26/08 2:51 PM >>>
>>>>         
> Any one know where there is some expertise on this?  Or at least some decent documentation?  Sorry, I am not even certain what the product is/was actually named.   I do have access to the server, so can scare up NLM names and such.
>
> At a place I am familiar with, there is a 4.11 server running some kind of SAA/tn3270 stuff that needs to keep running for "a while". 
>
> Mean time, it is hindering modernization efforts.  Specifically, moving eDirectory to Linux servers (OES1), presents an issue where that server is not seen.  Mainly, one would presume, due to the fact that there is only IP on Linux and the 4.11 box seems to have only IPX.
>
> Having no idea how the SAA (?) stuff works, gives one pause as to how to proceed.  Documentation seems sparse, at this moment.
>
> It seems the most sensible thing, at first blush, to remove DS and reinstall this box in it's own tree.  However, as noted, one does not know what effect this will have on the "application".  Does it try to log in to DS on startup, or at some other time?  If so, will we be able to convince it to use another set of credentials?   Perhaps not even the shadow knows.
>
> joe a
>
>
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From joea at j4computers.com  Sun Jun 29 18:00:29 2008
From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:00:29 -0400
Subject: VMware server and NetWare
Message-ID: <4867876B.917D.0085.0@j4computers.com>

Probably been asked and answered, but, can Netware (6.5/OES) be virtualized on VMware server (the free deal)?   I see references to GSX and ESX server in the Novell docs. 

joe a.


From JRD at cc.usu.edu  Sun Jun 29 18:26:12 2008
From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:26:12 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: VMware server and NetWare
Message-ID: <01MWK8SKR76A8YA4Q0@cc.usu.edu>

>Probably been asked and answered, but, can Netware (6.5/OES) be virtualized on VMware server (the free deal)?   I see references to GSX and ESX server in the Novell docs. 
>
>joe a.
--------
	Yes, and on VMware workstation and even VMware player.
	Joe D.

From joea at j4computers.com  Sun Jun 29 19:56:43 2008
From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:56:43 -0400
Subject: VMware server and NetWare
In-Reply-To: <01MWK8SKR76A8YA4Q0@cc.usu.edu>
References: <01MWK8SKR76A8YA4Q0@cc.usu.edu>
Message-ID: <4867A2A9.917D.0085.0@j4computers.com>

>>> On 6/29/2008 at 1:26 PM, Joe Doupnik <JRD at cc.usu.edu> wrote:
>> Probably been asked and answered, but, can Netware (6.5/OES) be virtualized 
> on VMware server (the free deal)?   I see references to GSX and ESX server in 
> the Novell docs. 
>>
>>joe a.
> --------
> 	Yes, and on VMware workstation and even VMware player.
> 	Joe D.

Thanks.   Any preferred platform?  SLES 9, 10?  Other?

joe a.


From bbrush at gmail.com  Sun Jun 29 20:31:09 2008
From: bbrush at gmail.com (Bill Brush)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:31:09 -0500
Subject: VMware server and NetWare
In-Reply-To: <4867A2A9.917D.0085.0@j4computers.com>
References: <01MWK8SKR76A8YA4Q0@cc.usu.edu>
	<4867A2A9.917D.0085.0@j4computers.com>
Message-ID: <167f4090806291231r78a78aa7u3132804751ac06aa@mail.gmail.com>

The host platform doesn't really matter to the guests.  I've run VMWare'd
Netware boxes on Win95(b), Win98, W2K, Win XP, SLES, OpenSuse, and probably
some others I can't think of.

VMware is simply indispensable IMO.

Bill

On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 1:56 PM, joea at j4computers.com <joea at j4computers.com>
wrote:

> >>> On 6/29/2008 at 1:26 PM, Joe Doupnik <JRD at cc.usu.edu> wrote:
> >> Probably been asked and answered, but, can Netware (6.5/OES) be
> virtualized
> > on VMware server (the free deal)?   I see references to GSX and ESX
> server in
> > the Novell docs.
> >>
> >>joe a.
> > --------
> >       Yes, and on VMware workstation and even VMware player.
> >       Joe D.
>
> Thanks.   Any preferred platform?  SLES 9, 10?  Other?
>
> joe a.
>
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From lholling at microvell.com.au  Sun Jun 29 22:46:31 2008
From: lholling at microvell.com.au (Leonard Holling)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 05:46:31 +0800
Subject: VMware server and NetWare
In-Reply-To: <4867A2A9.917D.0085.0@j4computers.com>
References: <01MWK8SKR76A8YA4Q0@cc.usu.edu>
	<4867A2A9.917D.0085.0@j4computers.com>
Message-ID: <486802B7.8070200@microvell.com.au>

Hi Joe

Does not matter at all whatever you want to run it on. Just so you know 
VM Server is the new name for VMware GSX anyhow.

Leonard...

joea at j4computers.com wrote:
>>>> On 6/29/2008 at 1:26 PM, Joe Doupnik <JRD at cc.usu.edu> wrote:
>>>>         
>>> Probably been asked and answered, but, can Netware (6.5/OES) be virtualized 
>>>       
>> on VMware server (the free deal)?   I see references to GSX and ESX server in 
>> the Novell docs. 
>>     
>>> joe a.
>>>       
>> --------
>> 	Yes, and on VMware workstation and even VMware player.
>> 	Joe D.
>>     
>
> Thanks.   Any preferred platform?  SLES 9, 10?  Other?
>
> joe a.
>
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From JRD at cc.usu.edu  Mon Jun 30 08:48:03 2008
From: JRD at cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 01:48:03 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: VMware server and NetWare
Message-ID: <01MWL2N8YLTE8YA0BK@cc.usu.edu>

>>>> On 6/29/2008 at 1:26 PM, Joe Doupnik <JRD at cc.usu.edu> wrote:
>>> Probably been asked and answered, but, can Netware (6.5/OES) be virtualized 
>> on VMware server (the free deal)?   I see references to GSX and ESX server in 
>> the Novell docs. 
>>>
>>>joe a.
>> --------
>> 	Yes, and on VMware workstation and even VMware player.
>> 	Joe D.
>
>Thanks.   Any preferred platform?  SLES 9, 10?  Other?
>
>joe a.
----------
	Your choice of hosts really. Linux makes better use of memory than
Windows, and SLES10 is a little nicer than SLES9. For a course I am giving
in a couple of weeks I have NW, SLES10, OES2 all running in VMware workstation,
being created on a WinXP host but to be run on 32 bit SLED10 hosts.
	One thing to note is we cannot readily move VMs from a 64 bit host o/s
to a 32 bit host o/s. The lan adapter detection/BIOS detection part of a 
SLES virtual machine can't cope, yet NW works fine. Dance with the one who
brought you.
	Joe D.

From fubarsnafu69 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 30 13:30:48 2008
From: fubarsnafu69 at gmail.com (fred james)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:30:48 -0400
Subject: VMware server and NetWare
In-Reply-To: <01MWL2N8YLTE8YA0BK@cc.usu.edu>
References: <01MWL2N8YLTE8YA0BK@cc.usu.edu>
Message-ID: <32a559c50806300530v3e76379dm6a167eda89b1e2f7@mail.gmail.com>

Just watch out for time drift - I had this problem on Gigabyte MB with
dual core AMD 6000 processor - I had to modify some BIOS settings to
keep Netware clock synched with host PC. I didn't have this problem
when I move it to a single processor box though.

Fred

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 3:48 AM, Joe Doupnik <JRD at cc.usu.edu> wrote:
>>>>> On 6/29/2008 at 1:26 PM, Joe Doupnik <JRD at cc.usu.edu> wrote:
>>>> Probably been asked and answered, but, can Netware (6.5/OES) be virtualized
>>> on VMware server (the free deal)?   I see references to GSX and ESX server in
>>> the Novell docs.
>>>>
>>>>joe a.
>>> --------
>>>      Yes, and on VMware workstation and even VMware player.
>>>      Joe D.
>>
>>Thanks.   Any preferred platform?  SLES 9, 10?  Other?
>>
>>joe a.
> ----------
>        Your choice of hosts really. Linux makes better use of memory than
> Windows, and SLES10 is a little nicer than SLES9. For a course I am giving
> in a couple of weeks I have NW, SLES10, OES2 all running in VMware workstation,
> being created on a WinXP host but to be run on 32 bit SLED10 hosts.
>        One thing to note is we cannot readily move VMs from a 64 bit host o/s
> to a 32 bit host o/s. The lan adapter detection/BIOS detection part of a
> SLES virtual machine can't cope, yet NW works fine. Dance with the one who
> brought you.
>        Joe D.
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From Setienne at enesco.com  Mon Jun 30 15:42:00 2008
From: Setienne at enesco.com (Scott Etienne)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:42:00 -0500
Subject: OT: Good SLES 10 book?
In-Reply-To: <01MWK8SKR76A8YA4Q0@cc.usu.edu>
References: <01MWK8SKR76A8YA4Q0@cc.usu.edu>
Message-ID: <4868AA67.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>

I am looking for recommendations for a comprehensive book on SLES 10 with strong references to apache.
 
I am looking for an A-Z book to use both as reference and how-to, with strong apache information.
 
Thank you,

Scott Etienne
Network Engineer
Enesco, LLC
setienne at enesco.com 

 

From sricketts at esitechadvisors.com  Mon Jun 30 15:52:23 2008
From: sricketts at esitechadvisors.com (Steve Ricketts)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:52:23 -0400
Subject: Good SLES 10 book?
References: <01MWK8SKR76A8YA4Q0@cc.usu.edu> <4868AA67.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>
Message-ID: <3E3EBD4AA56A9E4C8D04E2075088AD8D0200AF23@exchange.esiindy.net>

SUSE Linux ToolBox by Christopher Negus & Fracnois CaEn
 
ISBN: 978-0-470-08292-8
 
Great Reference book that has helped me immensly.
 
Thanks,
Steve

________________________________

From: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk on behalf of Scott Etienne
Sent: Mon 6/30/2008 10:42 AM
To: novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
Subject: OT: Good SLES 10 book?



I am looking for recommendations for a comprehensive book on SLES 10 with strong references to apache.

I am looking for an A-Z book to use both as reference and how-to, with strong apache information.

Thank you,

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From alandpearson at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 30 16:29:20 2008
From: alandpearson at yahoo.com (Alan Pearson)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:29:20 +0100
Subject: Job opening 
Message-ID: <F1C74CDC-FD2B-462F-B1F5-B100776D3BFD@yahoo.com>

Hi guys

We're looking for a Novell person to come work in our IT dept in sunny  
wales (newport).
The person would also have to have reasonable linux skills, and  
networking.

It's a good opportunity for anyone as we're moving from OES1 to OES2  
and this would be good if for any netware people want to see the Linux  
side of the world :)

If you're interested contact me directly.

Job Spec is below (as I can't post attachments to the list).


Thanks
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IT Manager
Quative Ltd.

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8 The Square
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Job purpose
The purpose of the role at a high-level will be:

	? 1.	Support of users and desktop systems (Windows XP, Linux, OS/X)
	? 2.	Build, setup, install, troubleshoot Linux Server side  
infrastructure
	? 3.	Network infrastructure configuration, fault finding and planning
	? 4.	Application deployment and support
	? 5.	Design, deployment and support of new IT services company wide
	? 6.	Email system monitoring, maintenance, and troubleshooting
	? 7.	All aspects of supporting a corporate IT environment

JOB OBJECTIVES, MAIN AREAS OF RESPONSIBILITY AND KEY TASKS
The following represents the main objectives, key responsibilities and  
tasks:

1.	Support of users, applications and general PC based troubleshooting  
and configuration
2.	Network troubleshooting, building, configuration and planning

3.	Hardware installation and setup (servers, network infrastructure,  
storage systems)

4.	Detailed server and application troubleshooting to a low level

5.	Documentation of existing and new services



The following represents the required work experience and  
qualifications:

Working experience and proven exposure with at least 4 years IT or  
Customer Support experience.


It is essential that the Applicants have the following skill sets :

Strong practical experience of IP networking, routing, access control,  
firewalls,  protocols and fault finding
Detailed, in depth knowledge and experience of Linux
Configuration of network switches and firewalls (Cisco IOS)
Virtualised environments (Linux based,  Xen)
Knowledge and understanding of Directory Systems (Edirectory, LDAP,  
Open Directory)
Strong knowledge of network security
Understanding and strong practical experience of Scripting  (Perl,  
shell, etc?)
In depth knowledge of core network services (DNS, DHCP,  
Authentication, LDAP, HTTP)
Understanding and experience of Networking, Switching, Routers,  
Protocols i.e. TCP/IP, Multicast, Unicast, RTSP, TFTP, IGMP
Understanding and practical experience  of network analysis
Good knowledge of Windows system administration and desktop management
Strong hardware knowledge, skills managing racks and cabling  
infrastructures
Highly proficient scripting in shell and / or Perl

The following skills are nice to have :
Experience of ZenWorks desktop management
Experience of Novell OES, or associated Novell based services (File +  
Print, iFolder, NSS etc)


The following detail some of the soft skill competencies required;

	? 1.	Good communication skills, both written and verbal
	? 2.	Demonstrate good analytical and problem solving skills
	? 3.	Proven self starter, capable of solving complex issues under own  
steam
	? 4.	Proven documentation skills
	? 5.	Able to communicate in a non threatning way to non-technical users
	? 6.	Desire to the 'right thing' and not 'the quick fix'


	

---
AlanP




From Chris.Nevener at networkingpartner.com  Mon Jun 30 16:57:03 2008
From: Chris.Nevener at networkingpartner.com (Chris Nevener)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:57:03 +0200
Subject: Job opening
In-Reply-To: <F1C74CDC-FD2B-462F-B1F5-B100776D3BFD@yahoo.com>
References: <F1C74CDC-FD2B-462F-B1F5-B100776D3BFD@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48691E6F.F9B1.005C.0@networkingpartner.com>

Hi Alan!

What sort of salary range are we talking about here?

I might be interested, but it would mean a relocation to UK from
Germany for me. Therefore I need a ball park figure.

Cheers
Chris 
 
>>> Alan Pearson <alandpearson at yahoo.com> 06/30/08 5:29 PM >>> 
Hi guys

We're looking for a Novell person to come work in our IT dept in sunny 

wales (newport).
The person would also have to have reasonable linux skills, and  
networking.

It's a good opportunity for anyone as we're moving from OES1 to OES2  
and this would be good if for any netware people want to see the Linux 

side of the world :)

If you're interested contact me directly.

Job Spec is below (as I can't post attachments to the list).


Thanks
Alan Pearson

---
Alan Pearson
IT Manager
Quative Ltd.

alan.pearson at quative.tv

8 The Square
Stockley Park
Uxbridge
Middlesex
UB11 1FW
United Kingdom





Job purpose
The purpose of the role at a high-level will be:

	? 1.	Support of users and desktop systems (Windows XP, Linux,
OS/X)
	? 2.	Build, setup, install, troubleshoot Linux Server side  
infrastructure
	? 3.	Network infrastructure configuration, fault finding and
planning
	? 4.	Application deployment and support
	? 5.	Design, deployment and support of new IT services
company wide
	? 6.	Email system monitoring, maintenance, and
troubleshooting
	? 7.	All aspects of supporting a corporate IT environment

JOB OBJECTIVES, MAIN AREAS OF RESPONSIBILITY AND KEY TASKS
The following represents the main objectives, key responsibilities and 

tasks:

1.	Support of users, applications and general PC based
troubleshooting  
and configuration
2.	Network troubleshooting, building, configuration and planning

3.	Hardware installation and setup (servers, network
infrastructure,  
storage systems)

4.	Detailed server and application troubleshooting to a low level

5.	Documentation of existing and new services



The following represents the required work experience and  
qualifications:

Working experience and proven exposure with at least 4 years IT or  
Customer Support experience.


It is essential that the Applicants have the following skill sets :

Strong practical experience of IP networking, routing, access control, 

firewalls,  protocols and fault finding
Detailed, in depth knowledge and experience of Linux
Configuration of network switches and firewalls (Cisco IOS)
Virtualised environments (Linux based,  Xen)
Knowledge and understanding of Directory Systems (Edirectory, LDAP,  
Open Directory)
Strong knowledge of network security
Understanding and strong practical experience of Scripting  (Perl,  
shell, etc?)
In depth knowledge of core network services (DNS, DHCP,  
Authentication, LDAP, HTTP)
Understanding and experience of Networking, Switching, Routers,  
Protocols i.e. TCP/IP, Multicast, Unicast, RTSP, TFTP, IGMP
Understanding and practical experience  of network analysis
Good knowledge of Windows system administration and desktop management
Strong hardware knowledge, skills managing racks and cabling  
infrastructures
Highly proficient scripting in shell and / or Perl

The following skills are nice to have :
Experience of ZenWorks desktop management
Experience of Novell OES, or associated Novell based services (File + 

Print, iFolder, NSS etc)


The following detail some of the soft skill competencies required;

	? 1.	Good communication skills, both written and verbal
	? 2.	Demonstrate good analytical and problem solving skills
	? 3.	Proven self starter, capable of solving complex issues
under own  
steam
	? 4.	Proven documentation skills
	? 5.	Able to communicate in a non threatning way to
non-technical users
	? 6.	Desire to the 'right thing' and not 'the quick fix'


	

---
AlanP



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From alandpearson at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 30 17:17:01 2008
From: alandpearson at yahoo.com (Alan Pearson)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:17:01 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Job opening
In-Reply-To: <48691E6F.F9B1.005C.0@networkingpartner.com>
References: <F1C74CDC-FD2B-462F-B1F5-B100776D3BFD@yahoo.com>
	<48691E6F.F9B1.005C.0@networkingpartner.com>
Message-ID: <12817.88.211.54.85.1214842621.squirrel@83.67.10.8>

Chris,

Circa 35K

Alan
-- 
AlanP

On Mon, June 30, 2008 4:57 pm, Chris Nevener wrote:
> Hi Alan!
>
> What sort of salary range are we talking about here?
>
> I might be interested, but it would mean a relocation to UK from
> Germany for me. Therefore I need a ball park figure.
>
> Cheers
> Chris
>
>>>> Alan Pearson <alandpearson at yahoo.com> 06/30/08 5:29 PM >>>
> Hi guys
>
> We're looking for a Novell person to come work in our IT dept in sunny
>
> wales (newport).
> The person would also have to have reasonable linux skills, and
> networking.
>
> It's a good opportunity for anyone as we're moving from OES1 to OES2
> and this would be good if for any netware people want to see the Linux
>
> side of the world :)
>
> If you're interested contact me directly.
>
> Job Spec is below (as I can't post attachments to the list).
>
>
> Thanks
> Alan Pearson
>
> ---
> Alan Pearson
> IT Manager
> Quative Ltd.
>
> alan.pearson at quative.tv
>
> 8 The Square
> Stockley Park
> Uxbridge
> Middlesex
> UB11 1FW
> United Kingdom
>
>
>
>
>
> Job purpose
> The purpose of the role at a high-level will be:
>
> 	??? 1.	Support of users and desktop systems (Windows XP, Linux,
> OS/X)
> 	??? 2.	Build, setup, install, troubleshoot Linux Server side
> infrastructure
> 	??? 3.	Network infrastructure configuration, fault finding and
> planning
> 	??? 4.	Application deployment and support
> 	??? 5.	Design, deployment and support of new IT services
> company wide
> 	??? 6.	Email system monitoring, maintenance, and
> troubleshooting
> 	??? 7.	All aspects of supporting a corporate IT environment
>
> JOB OBJECTIVES, MAIN AREAS OF RESPONSIBILITY AND KEY TASKS
> The following represents the main objectives, key responsibilities and
>
> tasks:
>
> 1.	Support of users, applications and general PC based
> troubleshooting
> and configuration
> 2.	Network troubleshooting, building, configuration and planning
>
> 3.	Hardware installation and setup (servers, network
> infrastructure,
> storage systems)
>
> 4.	Detailed server and application troubleshooting to a low level
>
> 5.	Documentation of existing and new services
>
>
>
> The following represents the required work experience and
> qualifications:
>
> Working experience and proven exposure with at least 4 years IT or
> Customer Support experience.
>
>
> It is essential that the Applicants have the following skill sets :
>
> Strong practical experience of IP networking, routing, access control,
>
> firewalls,  protocols and fault finding
> Detailed, in depth knowledge and experience of Linux
> Configuration of network switches and firewalls (Cisco IOS)
> Virtualised environments (Linux based,  Xen)
> Knowledge and understanding of Directory Systems (Edirectory, LDAP,
> Open Directory)
> Strong knowledge of network security
> Understanding and strong practical experience of Scripting  (Perl,
> shell, etc???)
> In depth knowledge of core network services (DNS, DHCP,
> Authentication, LDAP, HTTP)
> Understanding and experience of Networking, Switching, Routers,
> Protocols i.e. TCP/IP, Multicast, Unicast, RTSP, TFTP, IGMP
> Understanding and practical experience  of network analysis
> Good knowledge of Windows system administration and desktop management
> Strong hardware knowledge, skills managing racks and cabling
> infrastructures
> Highly proficient scripting in shell and / or Perl
>
> The following skills are nice to have :
> Experience of ZenWorks desktop management
> Experience of Novell OES, or associated Novell based services (File +
>
> Print, iFolder, NSS etc)
>
>
> The following detail some of the soft skill competencies required;
>
> 	??? 1.	Good communication skills, both written and verbal
> 	??? 2.	Demonstrate good analytical and problem solving skills
> 	??? 3.	Proven self starter, capable of solving complex issues
> under own
> steam
> 	??? 4.	Proven documentation skills
> 	??? 5.	Able to communicate in a non threatning way to
> non-technical users
> 	??? 6.	Desire to the 'right thing' and not 'the quick fix'
>
>
>
>
> ---
> AlanP
>
>
>
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From RGrein at tpchd.org  Mon Jun 30 21:19:10 2008
From: RGrein at tpchd.org (Randy Grein)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:19:10 -0700
Subject: New Cluster resource won't cluster - what the heck?
Message-ID: <4868DD6B.811E.0072.0@tpchd.org>

OK, things are getting weird. DHCP services won't cluster cleanly. (One server brings up DHCP cleanly, the other does not.) I created a new clustered volume for printing (which went smoothly) but I get an error message in iManager trying to create a clustered broker. (Literally the message is 'an error occurred.') Anyone got a bright idea before I break down and create yet another Novell incident?

Background: Netware 6.5 SP7. The previous administrator used to run DSREPAIR automatic repair as an automated cron job daily from several servers; we had broken communications in several areas for over a month when I got here. NTS helped me recover to a stable state last week and they still need to help me get Identity Manager working again - we had to pull the associated server out of the tree and reinsert it.

Randy Grein
Sr. Network Engineer


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