From Setienne at enesco.com  Mon Feb  2 16:57:12 2009
From: Setienne at enesco.com (Scott Etienne)
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 10:57:12 -0600
Subject: Novell-Windows sync question
In-Reply-To: <49837689.1030403@nyp.org>
References: <49837689.1030403@nyp.org>
Message-ID: <4986D188.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>

We have to setup a machine for multiple-user login, and are having trouble where when you change users, and Login to Novell, the Windows login always comes up with the previous user name for login.
 
What can we do to simplify this so that the Novell Login is all the user EVER sees, for any user already created on a Windows machine?
 
 
Thank you,

Scott Etienne
Network Engineer
Enesco, LLC
setienne at enesco.com 

 

From Robrinsky at roillc.com  Mon Feb  2 17:04:35 2009
From: Robrinsky at roillc.com (Robert Obrinsky)
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 09:04:35 -0800
Subject: Novell-Windows sync question
In-Reply-To: <4986D188.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>
References: <49837689.1030403@nyp.org> <4986D188.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>
Message-ID: <4986B7230200006D00029C35@roi-03.roillc.com>

Scott,
 
There is an option in the Netware client to synchronize the Netware login name to the Windows login name. Offhand, I don't remember where that is configured and I am not at a system with the Novell client right now. But I know this option exists.
 
Robert W. Obrinsky
President
Robert Obrinsky Industries, LLC
1908 SE 45th Avenue
Portland, OR 97215
503.719.4387 (Office)
203.273.7012 (Mobile)


>>> "Scott Etienne" <Setienne at enesco.com> 2/2/2009 8:57 AM >>>
We have to setup a machine for multiple-user login, and are having trouble where when you change users, and Login to Novell, the Windows login always comes up with the previous user name for login.

What can we do to simplify this so that the Novell Login is all the user EVER sees, for any user already created on a Windows machine?


Thank you,

Scott Etienne
Network Engineer
Enesco, LLC
setienne at enesco.com 


_______________________________________________
Novell mailing list
Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell

From pjc9001 at nyp.org  Mon Feb  2 17:05:21 2009
From: pjc9001 at nyp.org (Peter J. Cox)
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 12:05:21 -0500
Subject: Novell-Windows sync question
In-Reply-To: <4986D188.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>
References: <49837689.1030403@nyp.org> <4986D188.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>
Message-ID: <498727D1.80901@nyp.org>

Scott,
    We use Zenworks to manage the windows accounts and, if need be, 
create new local accounts on workstations. That component used to be 
included in the "free" piece(s) that came with the clients. I'm not sure 
if that's still the case (we now use a full Zen setup). I'll check with 
some of my people.

If there are any questions or problems
please contact me.
_______________________
Peter J. Cox
Network Manager, IT
NY Methodist Hospital
718-780-3250 Office
718-780-5993 HelpDesk




Scott Etienne wrote:
> We have to setup a machine for multiple-user login, and are having trouble where when you change users, and Login to Novell, the Windows login always comes up with the previous user name for login.
>  
> What can we do to simplify this so that the Novell Login is all the user EVER sees, for any user already created on a Windows machine?
>  
>  
> Thank you,
>
> Scott Etienne
> Network Engineer
> Enesco, LLC
> setienne at enesco.com 
>
>  
> _______________________________________________
> Novell mailing list
> Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
> http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell
>
>   


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From Robrinsky at roillc.com  Mon Feb  2 17:12:27 2009
From: Robrinsky at roillc.com (Robert Obrinsky)
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 09:12:27 -0800
Subject: Novell-Windows sync question
In-Reply-To: <4986D188.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>
References: <49837689.1030403@nyp.org> <4986D188.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>
Message-ID: <4986B8FB0200006D00029C49@roi-03.roillc.com>

Scott,
 
In the 'Advanced Login' tab of the client properties, change the setting for 'Copy Netware Username to Windows' to 'On' and that should take care of it.
 
Robert W. Obrinsky
President
Robert Obrinsky Industries, LLC
1908 SE 45th Avenue
Portland, OR 97215
503.719.4387 (Office)
203.273.7012 (Mobile)


>>> "Scott Etienne" <Setienne at enesco.com> 2/2/2009 8:57 AM >>>
We have to setup a machine for multiple-user login, and are having trouble where when you change users, and Login to Novell, the Windows login always comes up with the previous user name for login.

What can we do to simplify this so that the Novell Login is all the user EVER sees, for any user already created on a Windows machine?


Thank you,

Scott Etienne
Network Engineer
Enesco, LLC
setienne at enesco.com 


_______________________________________________
Novell mailing list
Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell

From Setienne at enesco.com  Mon Feb  2 17:30:31 2009
From: Setienne at enesco.com (Scott Etienne)
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 11:30:31 -0600
Subject: Novell-Windows sync question
In-Reply-To: <4986B8FB0200006D00029C49@roi-03.roillc.com>
References: <49837689.1030403@nyp.org> <4986D188.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>
	<4986B8FB0200006D00029C49@roi-03.roillc.com>
Message-ID: <4986D957.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>

Sounds great! Thanks to all that responded!
 
Scott Etienne
Network Engineer
Enesco, LLC
setienne at enesco.com 

 


>>> On 2/2/2009 at 11:12 AM, in message <4986B8FB0200006D00029C49 at roi-03.roillc.com>, "Robert Obrinsky" <Robrinsky at roillc.com> wrote:
Scott,

In the 'Advanced Login' tab of the client properties, change the setting for 'Copy Netware Username to Windows' to 'On' and that should take care of it.

Robert W. Obrinsky
President
Robert Obrinsky Industries, LLC
1908 SE 45th Avenue
Portland, OR 97215
503.719.4387 (Office)
203.273.7012 (Mobile)


>>> "Scott Etienne" <Setienne at enesco.com> 2/2/2009 8:57 AM >>>
We have to setup a machine for multiple-user login, and are having trouble where when you change users, and Login to Novell, the Windows login always comes up with the previous user name for login.

What can we do to simplify this so that the Novell Login is all the user EVER sees, for any user already created on a Windows machine?


Thank you,

Scott Etienne
Network Engineer
Enesco, LLC
setienne at enesco.com 


_______________________________________________
Novell mailing list
Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk 
http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell 
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From bbrush at gmail.com  Mon Feb  2 22:47:18 2009
From: bbrush at gmail.com (Bill Brush)
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 16:47:18 -0600
Subject: Kablink/Novell T+C - employee directory
Message-ID: <167f4090902021447o2196614x4f5b679d5dec75fc@mail.gmail.com>

Ok, here is my situation, and it's a familiar tune.

We have an OES server that is currently providing eGuide, iFolder, and
Netstorage services.

eGuide has been "merged" into the user-app, which although we have
running I find it on the whole a lot less useful as a company
directory.  I'm also not sure what the long-term future of the user
app is since I'm the only one who's worked with it, and I have no
management directive or need to implement workflow-based entitlements.
 I would like to do it, but circumstances have not been conducive to
me working on it.

iFolder has been updated in OES2, but we can't run eGuide on the OES2
box, and I'm not sure what the long-term viability of iFolder is.  The
development pace has been so slow as to make the rest of my department
advocate it's abandoment, and with the problems we have with it I
can't really argue the fact.

NetStorage is better served by our OES2 box.

All of this adds up to the only thing keeping this box alive is eGuide
and it's up for discussion at a meeting tomorrow what we should use as
a replacement.  Serendipitously I received a Novell Connections e-mail
today (I hate the all-electronic format) and it had this little link
in it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuI6XfKoDiA

Anybody have any experience with this feature?  Could it be easily set
up from the Kablink offering to provide us with an electronic
directory that is just an electronic directory?

Thanks Bill

From keyser.soze at whoever.com  Tue Feb  3 11:00:37 2009
From: keyser.soze at whoever.com (Keyser Soze)
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 06:00:37 -0500
Subject: Kablink/Novell T+C - employee directory
Message-ID: <20090203110037.AE510BE407B@ws1-9.us4.outblaze.com>

Bill, I wish there was an easy answer :) Novell Teaming and its open
source counterpart, Kablink, is going to be a whole lot more than an
electronic directory for you. It's more of an open source sharepoint that
duplicates a whole heap of stuff that the IDM user application provides,
including workflow and directory lookups. As it replaces the entire
portal engine that the user app runs on (ex silverstream IIRC), quite
where this leaves the IDM user app in terms of product placement is
anyones guess, but i'd put my dollar on it being transferred to run in
the same portal as the new teaming engine (Liferay) So, eye up that magic
8 ball and ask it "where do I go for a simple LDAP lookup tool?" Well the
lump hammer vs walnut option would be to install Kablink or pay novell to
use their teaming software.Trust Novell and deploy the IDM user app to
everyone, safe in the knowledge that it wont go end of life anytime soon?Write
your own in about 20 lines PHP & hand it off to your web guys to brand up
with your company graphics?Run eGuide on an old windows machine? As i
say, I wish there was an easy answer.... KS

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Bill Brush"
  To: "Novell LAN Interest Group"
  Subject: Kablink/Novell T+C - employee directory
  Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 16:47:18 -0600


  Ok, here is my situation, and it's a familiar tune.

  We have an OES server that is currently providing eGuide, iFolder,
  and
  Netstorage services.

  eGuide has been "merged" into the user-app, which although we have
  running I find it on the whole a lot less useful as a company
  directory. I'm also not sure what the long-term future of the user
  app is since I'm the only one who's worked with it, and I have no
  management directive or need to implement workflow-based
  entitlements.
  I would like to do it, but circumstances have not been conducive to
  me working on it.

  iFolder has been updated in OES2, but we can't run eGuide on the OES2
  box, and I'm not sure what the long-term viability of iFolder is. The
  development pace has been so slow as to make the rest of my
  department
  advocate it's abandoment, and with the problems we have with it I
  can't really argue the fact.

  NetStorage is better served by our OES2 box.

  All of this adds up to the only thing keeping this box alive is
  eGuide
  and it's up for discussion at a meeting tomorrow what we should use
  as
  a replacement. Serendipitously I received a Novell Connections e-mail
  today (I hate the all-electronic format) and it had this little link
  in it:
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuI6XfKoDiA

  Anybody have any experience with this feature? Could it be easily set
  up from the Kablink offering to provide us with an electronic
  directory that is just an electronic directory?

  Thanks Bill
  _______________________________________________
  Novell mailing list
  Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
  http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell

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From alandpearson at yahoo.com  Tue Feb  3 14:38:55 2009
From: alandpearson at yahoo.com (Alan Pearson)
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 14:38:55 -0000 (GMT)
Subject: Kablink/Novell T+C - employee directory
In-Reply-To: <20090203110037.AE510BE407B@ws1-9.us4.outblaze.com>
References: <20090203110037.AE510BE407B@ws1-9.us4.outblaze.com>
Message-ID: <11527.88.211.54.85.1233671935.squirrel@83.67.10.8>

Hi

I wrote a cool solution how to get eGuide working on OES2, may be of some
use :

http://www.novell.com/communities/node/2793/adding-eguide-oes1-oes2
-- 
AlanP

On Tue, February 3, 2009 11:00 am, Keyser Soze wrote:
> Bill, I wish there was an easy answer :) Novell Teaming and its open
> source counterpart, Kablink, is going to be a whole lot more than an
> electronic directory for you. It's more of an open source sharepoint that
> duplicates a whole heap of stuff that the IDM user application provides,
> including workflow and directory lookups. As it replaces the entire
> portal engine that the user app runs on (ex silverstream IIRC), quite
> where this leaves the IDM user app in terms of product placement is
> anyones guess, but i'd put my dollar on it being transferred to run in
> the same portal as the new teaming engine (Liferay) So, eye up that magic
> 8 ball and ask it "where do I go for a simple LDAP lookup tool?" Well the
> lump hammer vs walnut option would be to install Kablink or pay novell to
> use their teaming software.Trust Novell and deploy the IDM user app to
> everyone, safe in the knowledge that it wont go end of life anytime
> soon?Write
> your own in about 20 lines PHP & hand it off to your web guys to brand up
> with your company graphics?Run eGuide on an old windows machine? As i
> say, I wish there was an easy answer.... KS
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: "Bill Brush"
>   To: "Novell LAN Interest Group"
>   Subject: Kablink/Novell T+C - employee directory
>   Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 16:47:18 -0600
>
>
>   Ok, here is my situation, and it's a familiar tune.
>
>   We have an OES server that is currently providing eGuide, iFolder,
>   and
>   Netstorage services.
>
>   eGuide has been "merged" into the user-app, which although we have
>   running I find it on the whole a lot less useful as a company
>   directory. I'm also not sure what the long-term future of the user
>   app is since I'm the only one who's worked with it, and I have no
>   management directive or need to implement workflow-based
>   entitlements.
>   I would like to do it, but circumstances have not been conducive to
>   me working on it.
>
>   iFolder has been updated in OES2, but we can't run eGuide on the OES2
>   box, and I'm not sure what the long-term viability of iFolder is. The
>   development pace has been so slow as to make the rest of my
>   department
>   advocate it's abandoment, and with the problems we have with it I
>   can't really argue the fact.
>
>   NetStorage is better served by our OES2 box.
>
>   All of this adds up to the only thing keeping this box alive is
>   eGuide
>   and it's up for discussion at a meeting tomorrow what we should use
>   as
>   a replacement. Serendipitously I received a Novell Connections e-mail
>   today (I hate the all-electronic format) and it had this little link
>   in it:
>   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuI6XfKoDiA
>
>   Anybody have any experience with this feature? Could it be easily set
>   up from the Kablink offering to provide us with an electronic
>   directory that is just an electronic directory?
>
>   Thanks Bill
>   _______________________________________________
>   Novell mailing list
>   Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
>   http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell
>
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From bbrush at gmail.com  Tue Feb  3 16:32:24 2009
From: bbrush at gmail.com (Bill Brush)
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 10:32:24 -0600
Subject: Kablink/Novell T+C - employee directory
In-Reply-To: <11527.88.211.54.85.1233671935.squirrel@83.67.10.8>
References: <20090203110037.AE510BE407B@ws1-9.us4.outblaze.com>
	<11527.88.211.54.85.1233671935.squirrel@83.67.10.8>
Message-ID: <167f4090902030832s190f80a6h2fc8f9d1e7019b7@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Alan Pearson <alandpearson at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I wrote a cool solution how to get eGuide working on OES2, may be of some
> use :
>
> http://www.novell.com/communities/node/2793/adding-eguide-oes1-oes2
> --


These instructions look really good, but upon trying them I don't get
a functional eguide page, I just get a blank white page.  The
redirection is working because if put in the //host/eGuide/ URL it
redirects me to //host/eGuide/servlet/eGuide, but I don't get the
opportunity to login or see anything other than a blank white page.

Any ideas?  I'm not a Tomcat guru so any time I have to start chasing
down something with it I rapidly leave my depth.

Thanks to anyone who can give me some pointers on this.

Bill

From toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee  Wed Feb  4 21:01:49 2009
From: toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee (Toomas Aas)
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 23:01:49 +0200
Subject: SLES installation media in OES
Message-ID: <498A023D.2090008@raad.tartu.ee>

Hello!

If installing OES2 SP1 on Linux (SLES10 SP2), can I use "regular" SLES10 
SP2 install CD-s, or must I use the SLES10 DVD which is included in OES2 
SP1 e-Media kit download? I mean, is SLES-as-part-of-OES somehow different 
from the "regular" SLES?

--
Toomas Aas
... The speed of time is one second per second.

From sutick at co.lewis-clark.mt.us  Wed Feb  4 21:17:20 2009
From: sutick at co.lewis-clark.mt.us (Steve Utick)
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 14:17:20 -0700
Subject: SLES installation media in OES
In-Reply-To: <498A023D.2090008@raad.tartu.ee>
References: <498A023D.2090008@raad.tartu.ee>
Message-ID: <4989A370020000ED0000FD3F@lcc-ccb-gw1.co.lewis-clark.mt.us>

You can use any SLES 10 SP2 media to install.   OES2 is just an "Add-on Product" to SLES now, and requires no special SLES media for the base O/S install.





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---------------------------------------------------
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Infrastructure Center Supervisor
Lewis & Clark County
316 N. Park - Room 211
Helena, MT  59623
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>>> On 2/4/2009 at 2:01 PM, in message <498A023D.2090008 at raad.tartu.ee>, Toomas Aas
<toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee> wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> If installing OES2 SP1 on Linux (SLES10 SP2), can I use "regular" SLES10 
> SP2 install CD-s, or must I use the SLES10 DVD which is included in OES2 
> SP1 e-Media kit download? I mean, is SLES-as-part-of-OES somehow different 
> from the "regular" SLES?
> 
> --
> Toomas Aas
> ... The speed of time is one second per second.
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From smf34 at cam.ac.uk  Wed Feb  4 22:33:15 2009
From: smf34 at cam.ac.uk (Simon Flood)
Date: 04 Feb 2009 22:33:15 +0000
Subject: SLES installation media in OES
In-Reply-To: <4989A370020000ED0000FD3F@lcc-ccb-gw1.co.lewis-clark.mt.us>
References: <498A023D.2090008@raad.tartu.ee>
	<4989A370020000ED0000FD3F@lcc-ccb-gw1.co.lewis-clark.mt.us>
Message-ID: <Prayer.1.3.1.0902042233150.8285@hermes-2.csi.cam.ac.uk>

On Feb 4 2009, Steve Utick wrote:

> You can use any SLES 10 SP2 media to install. OES2 is just an "Add-on 
> Product" to SLES now, and requires no special SLES media for the base O/S 
> install.

Remember OES2 is an add-on to SLES10 SP1 and OES2 SP1 is an add-on to 
SLES10 SP2.

Simon

From Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee  Sat Feb  7 18:07:49 2009
From: Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee (Alar Pandis)
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 20:07:49 +0200
Subject: iFolder 3.7 "Server unavailable" error
Message-ID: <009f01c9894e$fcd2d620$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee>

Hi!
Just thought how wonderful is iFolder 3.7 (I had some experiences with 3.6,
not so good) and ... on client side ... error "Server unavailable" appear
and I couldn't log in to iFolder (nor client/admin) via web! In server
Health Monitor I see Process Count as "suspect" -- current is 143 and peak
150. No other problems.
Couple a week ago I'd upgrade SLES 10 SP1 OES to SLES10 SP2 OES SP1 and so
far 3.7 was just a miracle! comparing to 3.6.
I'd dig little bit around. Hard for me to say what did cause this, but
restarting just Apache2 bring iFolder back to business. In Apache log I
found ERROR (see below). May be someone can transalte piece of this into
English! =) Mono problems etc. I'd find via Google.
And after that in error log I see just
...
[Sat Feb 07 15:46:45 2009] [error] (70014)End of file found: read_data
failed
[Sat Feb 07 15:46:45 2009] [error] Command stream corrupted, last command
was 7
[Sat Feb 07 15:46:45 2009] [error] (70014)End of file found: read_data
failed
[Sat Feb 07 15:46:45 2009] [error] Command stream corrupted, last command
was 1
[Sat Feb 07 15:46:52 2009] [error] (107)Transport endpoint is not connected:
write_data failed
[Sat Feb 07 15:46:52 2009] [alert] Failed to send initial data. Transport
endpoint is not connected
[Sat Feb 07 15:47:00 2009] [error] (107)Transport endpoint is not connected:
write_data failed
[Sat Feb 07 15:47:00 2009] [alert] Failed to send initial data. Transport
endpoint is not connected
...
Well ... until I'd restart Apache, as I said.
More thanks, Alar.

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assertion failed: (image->assembly == NULL)
aborting... 
[... here is probably important bla-bla-bla ...]
==================================================
Got a SIGABRT while executing native code. This usually indicates
a fatal error in the mono runtime or one of the native libraries 
used by your application.
==================================================

See full error:

Stacktrace:

  at (wrapper managed-to-native) System.Reflection.Assembly.LoadFrom
(string,bool) <0x00004>
  at (wrapper managed-to-native) System.Reflection.Assembly.LoadFrom
(string,bool) <0xffffffff>
  at System.Reflection.Assembly.LoadFrom (string) <0x0000c>
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  at System.Web.UI.SimpleWebHandlerParser..ctor
(System.Web.HttpContext,string,string) <0x0014b>
  at System.Web.UI.WebHandlerParser..ctor
(System.Web.HttpContext,string,string) <0x00013>
  at System.Web.UI.WebHandlerParser.GetCompiledType
(System.Web.HttpContext,string,string) <0x00025>
  at System.Web.UI.SimpleHandlerFactory.GetHandler
(System.Web.HttpContext,string,string,string) <0x00018>
  at System.Web.HttpApplication.GetHandler (System.Web.HttpContext)
<0x001d7>
  at <>c__CompilerGenerated2.MoveNext () <0x008a7>
  at System.Web.HttpApplication.Tick () <0x00037>
  at System.Web.HttpApplication.Start (object) <0x000e2>
  at
System.Web.HttpApplication.System.Web.IHttpAsyncHandler.BeginProcessRequest
(System.Web.HttpContext,System.AsyncCallback,object) <0x00073>
  at System.Web.HttpRuntime.RealProcessRequest (object) <0x001ab>
  at System.Web.HttpRuntime.ProcessRequest (System.Web.HttpWorkerRequest)
<0x0002c>
  at Mono.WebServer.MonoWorkerRequest.ProcessRequest () <0x00066>
  at Mono.WebServer.BaseApplicationHost.ProcessRequest
(Mono.WebServer.MonoWorkerRequest) <0x0006d>
  at Mono.WebServer.ModMonoApplicationHost.ProcessRequest
(int,string,string,string,string,string,int,string,int,string,string[],strin
g[]) <0x002b5>
  at (wrapper remoting-invoke-with-check)
Mono.WebServer.ModMonoApplicationHost.ProcessRequest
(int,string,string,string,string,string,int,string,int,string,string[],strin
g[]) <0xffffffff>
  at (wrapper xdomain-dispatch)
Mono.WebServer.ModMonoApplicationHost.ProcessRequest
(object,byte[]&,byte[]&,int,string,string,string,string,string,int,string,in
t,string,string[],string[]) <0xffffffff>
  at (wrapper xdomain-invoke)
Mono.WebServer.ModMonoApplicationHost.ProcessRequest
(int,string,string,string,string,string,int,string,int,string,string[],strin
g[]) <0xffffffff>
  at (wrapper remoting-invoke-with-check)
Mono.WebServer.ModMonoApplicationHost.ProcessRequest
(int,string,string,string,string,string,int,string,int,string,string[],strin
g[]) <0xffffffff>
  at Mono.WebServer.ModMonoWorker.InnerRun (object) <0x00467>
  at Mono.WebServer.ModMonoWorker.Run (object) <0x00017>
  at (wrapper delegate-invoke) System.MulticastDelegate.invoke_void_object
(object) <0xffffffff>
  at (wrapper runtime-invoke) System.Object.runtime_invoke_void_object
(object,intptr,intptr,intptr) <0xffffffff>

Native stacktrace:

	/usr/bin/mono(mono_handle_native_sigsegv+0xd4) [0x8167a44]
	[0xffffe440]
	/lib/libc.so.6(abort+0x103) [0xb7dbbff3]
	/opt/gnome/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0(g_logv+0x46d) [0xb7f2b32d]
	/opt/gnome/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0(g_log+0x35) [0xb7f2b375]
	/opt/gnome/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0(g_assert_warning+0x76) [0xb7f2b3f6]
	/usr/bin/mono(mono_assembly_load_from_full+0x59b) [0x80a23ab]
	/usr/bin/mono(mono_assembly_open_full+0x2e5) [0x80a27e5]
	/usr/bin/mono [0x80c149f]
	[0xb6904f64]
	[0xb6904f1d]
	[0xb2c70458]
	[0xb2c6fc24]
	[0xb2c6fa3c]
	[0xb2c6f96e]
	[0xb2c6f811]
	[0xb2c6cfe8]
	[0xb3a19538]
	[0xb3a18b00]
	[0xb3a1421b]
	[0xb3a1408c]
	[0xb6c68634]
	[0xb6c6816d]
	[0xb6c67e4f]
	[0xb6c66afe]
	[0xb6d99106]
	[0xb6d98544]
	[0xb6d98326]
	[0xb6d870f2]
	[0xb6e16f63]
	[0xb7322bf8]
	[0xb7322658]
	[0xb732260b]
	[0xb7322576]
	/usr/bin/mono(mono_runtime_invoke_array+0x17f) [0x80e52ef]
	/usr/bin/mono(mono_message_invoke+0xcd) [0x80e560d]
	/usr/bin/mono [0x80f2243]
	/usr/bin/mono [0x80f362d]
	/usr/bin/mono [0x80be854]
	/usr/bin/mono [0x810f77e]
	/usr/bin/mono [0x8127e85]
	/lib/libpthread.so.0 [0xb7ee82ab]
	/lib/libc.so.6(__clone+0x5e) [0xb7e51b9e]

Debug info from gdb:

(no debugging symbols found)
Using host libthread_db library "/lib/libthread_db.so.1".
(no debugging symbols found)
(no debugging symbols found)
(no debugging symbols found)
(no debugging symbols found)
(no debugging symbols found)
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
[New Thread -1210508992 (LWP 11348)]
[New Thread -1297314912 (LWP 12527)]
[New Thread -1296262240 (LWP 12526)]
[New Thread -1238991968 (LWP 12525)]
[New Thread -1279792224 (LWP 12505)]
[New Thread -1274815584 (LWP 12504)]
[New Thread -1223783520 (LWP 12035)]
[New Thread -1278215264 (LWP 12023)]
[New Thread -1275868256 (LWP 12022)]
[New Thread -1273435232 (LWP 12020)]
[New Thread -1272317024 (LWP 12019)]
[New Thread -1261757536 (LWP 12018)]
[New Thread -1253364832 (LWP 12017)]
[New Thread -1244234848 (LWP 12016)]
[New Thread -1240110176 (LWP 12015)]
[New Thread -1237939296 (LWP 12013)]
[New Thread -1236886624 (LWP 12012)]
[New Thread -1235833952 (LWP 12011)]
[New Thread -1234781280 (LWP 12010)]
[New Thread -1233728608 (LWP 12009)]
[New Thread -1229980768 (LWP 12004)]
[New Thread -1227396192 (LWP 12003)]
[New Thread -1224836192 (LWP 12002)]
[New Thread -1222730848 (LWP 11385)]
[New Thread -1221678176 (LWP 11382)]
[New Thread -1218315360 (LWP 11378)]
[New Thread -1208423520 (LWP 11376)]
(no debugging symbols found)
(no debugging symbols found)
(no debugging symbols found)
(no debugging symbols found)
(no debugging symbols found)
(no debugging symbols found)
(no debugging symbols found)
(no debugging symbols found)
(no debugging symbols found)
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(no debugging symbols found)
0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
  27 Thread -1208423520 (LWP 11376)  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
  26 Thread -1218315360 (LWP 11378)  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
  25 Thread -1221678176 (LWP 11382)  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
  24 Thread -1222730848 (LWP 11385)  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
  23 Thread -1224836192 (LWP 12002)  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
  22 Thread -1227396192 (LWP 12003)  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
  21 Thread -1229980768 (LWP 12004)  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
  20 Thread -1233728608 (LWP 12009)  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
  19 Thread -1234781280 (LWP 12010)  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
  18 Thread -1235833952 (LWP 12011)  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
  17 Thread -1236886624 (LWP 12012)  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
  16 Thread -1237939296 (LWP 12013)  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
  15 Thread -1240110176 (LWP 12015)  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
  14 Thread -1244234848 (LWP 12016)  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
  13 Thread -1253364832 (LWP 12017)  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
  12 Thread -1261757536 (LWP 12018)  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
  11 Thread -1272317024 (LWP 12019)  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
  10 Thread -1273435232 (LWP 12020)  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
  9 Thread -1275868256 (LWP 12022)  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
  8 Thread -1278215264 (LWP 12023)  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
  7 Thread -1223783520 (LWP 12035)  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
  6 Thread -1274815584 (LWP 12504)  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
  5 Thread -1279792224 (LWP 12505)  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
  4 Thread -1238991968 (LWP 12525)  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
  3 Thread -1296262240 (LWP 12526)  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
  2 Thread -1297314912 (LWP 12527)  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
  1 Thread -1210508992 (LWP 11348)  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()

Thread 27 (Thread -1208423520 (LWP 11376)):
#0  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1  0xb7eef376 in nanosleep () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#2  0x0810b054 in ?? ()
#3  0xb7f8e448 in ?? ()
#4  0x00000000 in ?? ()

Thread 26 (Thread -1218315360 (LWP 11378)):
#0  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1  0xb7dbad47 in sigsuspend () from /lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x08124093 in ?? ()
#3  0x081fb600 in ?? ()
#4  0xb761ef04 in ?? ()
#5  0x0000301c in ?? ()
#6  0xb7ebb570 in main_arena () from /lib/libc.so.6
#7  0xb7ebb178 in main_arena () from /lib/libc.so.6
#8  0xb761fb68 in ?? ()
#9  0x00000000 in ?? ()

Thread 25 (Thread -1221678176 (LWP 11382)):
#0  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1  0xb7dbad47 in sigsuspend () from /lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x08124093 in ?? ()
#3  0x081fb600 in ?? ()
#4  0xb7ebb140 in g_free () from /lib/libc.so.6
#5  0x0000301c in ?? ()
#6  0xb7f7f1b8 in g_free () from /opt/gnome/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#7  0x0000301c in ?? ()
#8  0xb72eab68 in ?? ()
#9  0x00000004 in ?? ()
#10 0xb7f28c4b in g_malloc () from /opt/gnome/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#11 <signal handler called>
#12 0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#13 0xb7eef376 in nanosleep () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#14 0x0810eda8 in ?? ()
#15 0xb72ea270 in ?? ()
#16 0xb72ea268 in ?? ()
#17 0x00000000 in ?? ()

Thread 24 (Thread -1222730848 (LWP 11385)):
#0  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1  0xb7dbad47 in sigsuspend () from /lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x08124093 in ?? ()
#3  0x081fb600 in ?? ()
#4  0x00000000 in ?? ()

Thread 23 (Thread -1224836192 (LWP 12002)):
#0  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1  0xb7dbad47 in sigsuspend () from /lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x08124093 in ?? ()
#3  0x081fb600 in ?? ()
#4  0x00c04ac8 in ?? ()
#5  0x00000000 in ?? ()

Thread 22 (Thread -1227396192 (LWP 12003)):
#0  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1  0xb7dbad47 in sigsuspend () from /lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x08124093 in ?? ()
#3  0x081fb600 in ?? ()
#4  0x00000200 in ?? ()
#5  0xb7c4d004 in ?? ()
#6  0x0842bccc in ?? ()
#7  0x00000001 in ?? ()
#8  0xb6d76b68 in ?? ()
#9  0x00000000 in ?? ()

Thread 21 (Thread -1229980768 (LWP 12004)):
#0  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1  0xb7dbad47 in sigsuspend () from /lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x08124093 in ?? ()
#3  0x081fb600 in ?? ()
#4  0x00000000 in ?? ()

Thread 20 (Thread -1233728608 (LWP 12009)):
#0  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1  0xb7dbad47 in sigsuspend () from /lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x08124093 in ?? ()
#3  0x081fb600 in ?? ()
#4  0x00000000 in ?? ()

Thread 19 (Thread -1234781280 (LWP 12010)):
#0  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1  0xb7dbad47 in sigsuspend () from /lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x08124093 in ?? ()
#3  0x081fb600 in ?? ()
#4  0xb7eeb35c in __pthread_mutex_unlock_usercnt () from
/lib/libpthread.so.0
#5  <signal handler called>
#6  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#7  0xb7eec2cc in pthread_cond_timedwait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from
/lib/libpthread.so.0
#8  0x0811550a in ?? ()
#9  0xb7af9cd4 in ?? ()
#10 0xb7af9cbc in ?? ()
#11 0xb666b0e4 in ?? ()
#12 0x00000000 in ?? ()

Thread 18 (Thread -1235833952 (LWP 12011)):
#0  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1  0xb7dbad47 in sigsuspend () from /lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x08124093 in ?? ()
#3  0x081fb600 in ?? ()
#4  0xb7eeb35c in __pthread_mutex_unlock_usercnt () from
/lib/libpthread.so.0
#5  <signal handler called>
#6  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#7  0xb7eec2cc in pthread_cond_timedwait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from
/lib/libpthread.so.0
#8  0x0811550a in ?? ()
#9  0xb7af9cd4 in ?? ()
#10 0xb7af9cbc in ?? ()
#11 0xb656a0e4 in ?? ()
#12 0x00000000 in ?? ()

Thread 17 (Thread -1236886624 (LWP 12012)):
#0  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1  0xb7dbad47 in sigsuspend () from /lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x08124093 in ?? ()
#3  0x081fb600 in ?? ()
#4  0xb7eeb35c in __pthread_mutex_unlock_usercnt () from
/lib/libpthread.so.0
#5  <signal handler called>
#6  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#7  0xb7eec2cc in pthread_cond_timedwait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from
/lib/libpthread.so.0
#8  0x0811550a in ?? ()
#9  0xb7af9cd4 in ?? ()
#10 0xb7af9cbc in ?? ()
#11 0xb64690e4 in ?? ()
#12 0x00000000 in ?? ()

Thread 16 (Thread -1237939296 (LWP 12013)):
#0  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1  0xb7dbad47 in sigsuspend () from /lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x08124093 in ?? ()
#3  0x081fb600 in ?? ()
#4  0x00000000 in ?? ()

Thread 15 (Thread -1240110176 (LWP 12015)):
#0  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1  0xb7dbad47 in sigsuspend () from /lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x08124093 in ?? ()
#3  0x081fb600 in ?? ()
#4  0xb7ebb140 in g_free () from /lib/libc.so.6
#5  0x0000301c in ?? ()
#6  0xb7f7f1b8 in g_free () from /opt/gnome/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#7  0x0000301c in ?? ()
#8  0xb6156b68 in ?? ()
#9  0x00000004 in ?? ()
#10 0xb7f28c4b in g_malloc () from /opt/gnome/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#11 <signal handler called>
#12 0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#13 0xb7eef376 in nanosleep () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#14 0x0810eda8 in ?? ()
#15 0xb6156210 in ?? ()
#16 0xb6156208 in ?? ()
#17 0x00000000 in ?? ()

Thread 14 (Thread -1244234848 (LWP 12016)):
#0  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1  0xb7eef376 in nanosleep () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#2  0xb5f59958 in f_sleep () from
/opt/novell/ifolder3/lib/libFlaimWrapper.so
#3  0xb5f57340 in flmMonitor () from
/opt/novell/ifolder3/lib/libFlaimWrapper.so
#4  0xb5f5af6f in g_free () from /opt/novell/ifolder3/lib/libFlaimWrapper.so
#5  0xb7ee82ab in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#6  0xb7e51b9e in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6

Thread 13 (Thread -1253364832 (LWP 12017)):
#0  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1  0xb7eef376 in nanosleep () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#2  0xb5f59958 in f_sleep () from
/opt/novell/ifolder3/lib/libFlaimWrapper.so
#3  0xb5f20137 in g_free () from /opt/novell/ifolder3/lib/libFlaimWrapper.so
#4  0xb5f5af6f in g_free () from /opt/novell/ifolder3/lib/libFlaimWrapper.so
#5  0xb7ee82ab in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#6  0xb7e51b9e in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6

Thread 12 (Thread -1261757536 (LWP 12018)):
#0  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1  0xb7eedfbf in sem_wait at GLIBC_2.0 () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#2  0xb5f5a26d in f_semWait () from
/opt/novell/ifolder3/lib/libFlaimWrapper.so
#3  0xb5f466ab in g_free () from /opt/novell/ifolder3/lib/libFlaimWrapper.so
#4  0xb5f5af6f in g_free () from /opt/novell/ifolder3/lib/libFlaimWrapper.so
#5  0xb7ee82ab in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#6  0xb7e51b9e in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6

Thread 11 (Thread -1272317024 (LWP 12019)):
#0  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1  0xb7dbad47 in sigsuspend () from /lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x08124093 in ?? ()
#3  0x081fb600 in ?? ()
#4  0x00000000 in ?? ()

Thread 10 (Thread -1273435232 (LWP 12020)):
#0  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1  0xb7dbad47 in sigsuspend () from /lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x08124093 in ?? ()
#3  0x081fb600 in ?? ()
#4  0xb6b46310 in ?? ()
#5  0xb418c9e0 in ?? ()
#6  0xb7eeb680 in pthread_mutex_unlock () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#7  <signal handler called>
#8  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#9  0xb7e4b5e2 in fdatasync () from /lib/libc.so.6
#10 0xb5f2a02f in F_FileHdlImp::Flush () from
/opt/novell/ifolder3/lib/libFlaimWrapper.so
#11 0xb5f51355 in F_SuperFileHdl::Flush () from
/opt/novell/ifolder3/lib/libFlaimWrapper.so
#12 0xb5f6f979 in flmWriteLogHdr () from
/opt/novell/ifolder3/lib/libFlaimWrapper.so
#13 0xb5f713aa in F_Rfl::completeTransWrites () from
/opt/novell/ifolder3/lib/libFlaimWrapper.so
#14 0xb5f25cd1 in flmCommitDbTrans () from
/opt/novell/ifolder3/lib/libFlaimWrapper.so
#15 0xb5f26092 in FlmDbTransCommit () from
/opt/novell/ifolder3/lib/libFlaimWrapper.so
#16 0xb5f13500 in CSPStore::EndTrans () from
/opt/novell/ifolder3/lib/libFlaimWrapper.so
#17 0xb5f1a70d in FWEndTrans () from
/opt/novell/ifolder3/lib/libFlaimWrapper.so
#18 0xb443fd26 in ?? ()
#19 0xb3d00888 in ?? ()
#20 0x001bf858 in ?? ()
#21 0xb418d014 in ?? ()
#22 0x084e0970 in ?? ()
#23 0xb418d03c in ?? ()
#24 0xb615a566 in ?? ()
#25 0x00000000 in ?? ()

Thread 9 (Thread -1275868256 (LWP 12022)):
#0  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1  0xb7dbad47 in sigsuspend () from /lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x08124093 in ?? ()
#3  0x081fb600 in ?? ()
#4  0x00000000 in ?? ()

Thread 8 (Thread -1278215264 (LWP 12023)):
#0  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1  0xb7dbad47 in sigsuspend () from /lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x08124093 in ?? ()
#3  0x081fb600 in ?? ()
#4  0x00000000 in ?? ()

Thread 7 (Thread -1223783520 (LWP 12035)):
#0  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1  0xb7dbad47 in sigsuspend () from /lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x08124093 in ?? ()
#3  0x081fb600 in ?? ()
#4  0x00000000 in ?? ()

Thread 6 (Thread -1274815584 (LWP 12504)):
#0  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1  0xb7dbad47 in sigsuspend () from /lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x08124093 in ?? ()
#3  0x081fb600 in ?? ()
#4  0x0813aad0 in ?? ()
#5  0x08585858 in ?? ()
#6  0x0000009c in ?? ()
#7  0x085858e4 in ?? ()
#8  0xb403db68 in ?? ()
#9  0x00000000 in ?? ()

Thread 5 (Thread -1279792224 (LWP 12505)):
#0  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1  0xb7dbad47 in sigsuspend () from /lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x08124093 in ?? ()
#3  0x081fb600 in ?? ()
#4  0xb7df744e in _int_malloc () from /lib/libc.so.6
#5  <signal handler called>
#6  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#7  0xb7eef376 in nanosleep () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#8  0x0810eda8 in ?? ()
#9  0xb3b7e260 in ?? ()
#10 0xb3b7e258 in ?? ()
#11 0x00000000 in ?? ()

Thread 4 (Thread -1238991968 (LWP 12525)):
#0  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1  0xb7dbad47 in sigsuspend () from /lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x08124093 in ?? ()
#3  0x081fb600 in ?? ()
#4  0x00000000 in ?? ()

Thread 3 (Thread -1296262240 (LWP 12526)):
#0  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1  0xb7dbad47 in sigsuspend () from /lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x08124093 in ?? ()
#3  0x081fb600 in ?? ()
#4  0xb2bc8ef6 in ?? ()
#5  0xb7eea941 in pthread_mutex_trylock () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#6  <signal handler called>
#7  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#8  0xb7eec2cc in pthread_cond_timedwait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from
/lib/libpthread.so.0
#9  0x0811550a in ?? ()
#10 0xb7af94d0 in ?? ()
#11 0xb7af94b8 in ?? ()
#12 0xb2bc9254 in ?? ()
#13 0xb2bc9298 in ?? ()
#14 0x081f9078 in g_free ()
#15 0xb2bc9254 in ?? ()
#16 0xb7af94d0 in ?? ()
#17 0x081155fa in ?? ()
#18 0x081faa9c in ?? ()
#19 0x498d90c5 in ?? ()
#20 0x24a827c0 in ?? ()
#21 0x081f9078 in g_free ()
#22 0x00000000 in ?? ()

Thread 2 (Thread -1297314912 (LWP 12527)):
#0  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1  0xb7eedfbf in sem_wait at GLIBC_2.0 () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#2  0x08123e1c in ?? ()
#3  0x081fd0ec in _wapi_global_signal_mutex ()
#4  0x00000000 in ?? ()

Thread 1 (Thread -1210508992 (LWP 11348)):
#0  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1  0xb7eec2cc in pthread_cond_timedwait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from
/lib/libpthread.so.0
#2  0x0811550a in ?? ()
#3  0x081fd0a0 in _wapi_private_handles ()
#4  0x081fd0d4 in _wapi_sem_id ()
#5  0xbfe30344 in ?? ()
#6  0xbfe305c0 in ?? ()
#7  0x00000000 in ?? ()
#0  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()


=================================================================
Got a SIGABRT while executing native code. This usually indicates
a fatal error in the mono runtime or one of the native libraries 
used by your application.
================================================================= 

[Sat Feb 07 15:46:45 2009] [error] (70014)End of file found: read_data
failed
[Sat Feb 07 15:46:45 2009] [error] Command stream corrupted, last command
was 7
[Sat Feb 07 15:46:45 2009] [error] (70014)End of file found: read_data
failed
[Sat Feb 07 15:46:45 2009] [error] Command stream corrupted, last command
was 1
[Sat Feb 07 15:46:52 2009] [error] (107)Transport endpoint is not connected:
write_data failed
[Sat Feb 07 15:46:52 2009] [alert] Failed to send initial data. Transport
endpoint is not connected
[Sat Feb 07 15:47:00 2009] [error] (107)Transport endpoint is not connected:
write_data failed
[Sat Feb 07 15:47:00 2009] [alert] Failed to send initial data. Transport
endpoint is not connected
[Sat Feb 07 15:47:06 2009] [error] (107)Transport endpoint is not connected:
write_data failed
[Sat Feb 07 15:47:06 2009] [alert] Failed to send initial data. Transport
endpoint is not connected 
...



From joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk  Sat Feb  7 19:57:27 2009
From: joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk (jrd)
Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 19:57:27 +0000
Subject: iFolder 3.7 "Server unavailable" error
In-Reply-To: <009f01c9894e$fcd2d620$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee>
References: <009f01c9894e$fcd2d620$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee>
Message-ID: <498DE7A7.8060408@oucs.ox.ac.uk>

Alar Pandis wrote:
> Hi!
> Just thought how wonderful is iFolder 3.7 (I had some experiences with 3.6,
> not so good) and ... on client side ... error "Server unavailable" appear
> and I couldn't log in to iFolder (nor client/admin) via web! In server
> Health Monitor I see Process Count as "suspect" -- current is 143 and peak
> 150. No other problems.
> Couple a week ago I'd upgrade SLES 10 SP1 OES to SLES10 SP2 OES SP1 and so
> far 3.7 was just a miracle! comparing to 3.6.
> I'd dig little bit around. Hard for me to say what did cause this, but
> restarting just Apache2 bring iFolder back to business. In Apache log I
> found ERROR (see below). May be someone can transalte piece of this into
> English! =) Mono problems etc. I'd find via Google.
> And after that in error log I see just
> ...
> [Sat Feb 07 15:46:45 2009] [error] (70014)End of file found: read_data
> failed
---------
	This has the appearance of damaged files, likely those tied to
iFolder3. You might wish to reinstall iFolder3 RPMs (YaST, select iFolder3,
detailed view, change its RPM symbols to the Z/update form). Reapply
updates as necessary.
	Joe D.

From larry at ladyburd.com  Sun Feb  8 05:17:29 2009
From: larry at ladyburd.com (Larry Burd)
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 00:17:29 -0500
Subject: 2008 sbs
Message-ID: <b433a1e35d0915bc7dfc0494e338daed@ladyburd.com>

we are installing a sbs 2008 win server.
would I be able to see nw5.1  and the sbs from XP?
My IT guy says if the NW client is installed on XP, he would not even try joining the sbs domain.
trying to access the old and new at the same time :)

From James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com  Sun Feb  8 15:27:50 2009
From: James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com (James Taylor)
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 10:27:50 -0500
Subject: 2008 sbs
In-Reply-To: <b433a1e35d0915bc7dfc0494e338daed@ladyburd.com>
References: <b433a1e35d0915bc7dfc0494e338daed@ladyburd.com>
Message-ID: <498EB3A60200007500008C70@inet.eastcobbgroup.com>

Your IT guy doesn't know what he's talking about. It works fine everywhere else.
-jt 
 

James Taylor
The East Cobb Group, Inc.
678-697-9420
james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com
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>>> "Larry Burd" <larry at ladyburd.com> 2/8/2009 12:17 AM >>> 
we are installing a sbs 2008 win server.
would I be able to see nw5.1  and the sbs from XP?
My IT guy says if the NW client is installed on XP, he would not even try joining the sbs domain.
trying to access the old and new at the same time :)
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From James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com  Sun Feb  8 15:29:49 2009
From: James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com (James Taylor)
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 10:29:49 -0500
Subject: 2008 sbs
In-Reply-To: <b433a1e35d0915bc7dfc0494e338daed@ladyburd.com>
References: <b433a1e35d0915bc7dfc0494e338daed@ladyburd.com>
Message-ID: <498EB41D0200007500008C75@inet.eastcobbgroup.com>

Of course that begs the question, why SBS2008 instead of updating your nearlyy 10 year old version of NetWare to NOWS SBS?
-jt 
 

James Taylor
The East Cobb Group, Inc.
678-697-9420
james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com
http://www.eastcobbgroup.com





>>> "Larry Burd" <larry at ladyburd.com> 2/8/2009 12:17 AM >>> 
we are installing a sbs 2008 win server.
would I be able to see nw5.1  and the sbs from XP?
My IT guy says if the NW client is installed on XP, he would not even try joining the sbs domain.
trying to access the old and new at the same time :)
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From Robrinsky at roillc.com  Sun Feb  8 17:28:50 2009
From: Robrinsky at roillc.com (Robert Obrinsky)
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 09:28:50 -0800
Subject: 2008 sbs
In-Reply-To: <b433a1e35d0915bc7dfc0494e338daed@ladyburd.com>
References: <b433a1e35d0915bc7dfc0494e338daed@ladyburd.com>
Message-ID: <498EA5D20200006D0002A95E@roi-03.roillc.com>

I haven't done this with Windows Server 2008, but it has not been a problem with previous versions of Windows Server and AD. The two authentications are separate and not mutually exclusive.
 
Robert W. Obrinsky
President
Robert Obrinsky Industries, LLC
1908 SE 45th Avenue
Portland, OR 97215
503.719.4387 (Office)
203.273.7012 (Mobile)


>>> "Larry Burd" <larry at ladyburd.com> 2/7/2009 9:17 PM >>>
we are installing a sbs 2008 win server.
would I be able to see nw5.1  and the sbs from XP?
My IT guy says if the NW client is installed on XP, he would not even try joining the sbs domain.
trying to access the old and new at the same time :)
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From randygrein at comcast.net  Sun Feb  8 17:56:26 2009
From: randygrein at comcast.net (Randy Grein)
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 09:56:26 -0800
Subject: 2008 sbs
In-Reply-To: <b433a1e35d0915bc7dfc0494e338daed@ladyburd.com>
References: <b433a1e35d0915bc7dfc0494e338daed@ladyburd.com>
Message-ID: <AED03F62-0777-402D-BAFF-08000C22AA4E@comcast.net>

He probably remembers the nightmare of 4.x SBS, in which Microsoft  
rewrote NT to be isolated, 'simplified' and intolerant of any other  
code - even Microsofts.
Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA

On Feb 7, 2009, at 9:17 PM, Larry Burd wrote:

> we are installing a sbs 2008 win server.
> would I be able to see nw5.1  and the sbs from XP?
> My IT guy says if the NW client is installed on XP, he would not  
> even try joining the sbs domain.
> trying to access the old and new at the same time :)
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From tim at nds8.co.uk  Sun Feb  8 19:46:39 2009
From: tim at nds8.co.uk (Tim Heywood)
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 19:46:39 +0000
Subject: 2008 sbs
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References: <b433a1e35d0915bc7dfc0494e338daed@ladyburd.com>
Message-ID: <498F369F020000BB0004B152@mail2.nds8.com>

Hi Larry,

You have been around long enough to take that with a pinch of salt -
hence the question just to be sure that this chap is smoking something
that you can find on the corner shop shelves....

Having a XP workstation log in to Active Directory and eDirectory at
the same time is what 80%+ of all eDirectory managed workstations do...

I would like to be the fly on the wall when you tell him though  :-)

T


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>>> On 08 February, 2009 at 05:17, "Larry Burd" <larry at ladyburd.com>
wrote: 
> we are installing a sbs 2008 win server.
> would I be able to see nw5.1  and the sbs from XP?
> My IT guy says if the NW client is installed on XP, he would not even
try 
> joining the sbs domain.
> trying to access the old and new at the same time :)
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From hooeld at bay.k12.fl.us  Sun Feb  8 20:26:19 2009
From: hooeld at bay.k12.fl.us (Leslie Hooe)
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 14:26:19 -0600
Subject: 2008 sbs
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You can do that?? Cool, Now what do I tell my programmers that think the only system out there is AD??
 
 
 
Leslie Hooe
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Bay District Schools
(850) 747-5295 

>>> On 2/8/2009 at 1:46 PM, in message <498F369F020000BB0004B152 at mail2.nds8.com>, "Tim Heywood" <tim at nds8.co.uk> wrote:

Hi Larry,

You have been around long enough to take that with a pinch of salt -
hence the question just to be sure that this chap is smoking something
that you can find on the corner shop shelves....

Having a XP workstation log in to Active Directory and eDirectory at
the same time is what 80%+ of all eDirectory managed workstations do...

I would like to be the fly on the wall when you tell him though  :-)

T


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>>> On 08 February, 2009 at 05:17, "Larry Burd" <larry at ladyburd.com>
wrote: 
> we are installing a sbs 2008 win server.
> would I be able to see nw5.1  and the sbs from XP?
> My IT guy says if the NW client is installed on XP, he would not even
try 
> joining the sbs domain.
> trying to access the old and new at the same time :)
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From tim at nds8.co.uk  Sun Feb  8 20:31:43 2009
From: tim at nds8.co.uk (Tim Heywood)
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:31:43 +0000
Subject: 2008 sbs
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Oh, it gets better - with OES2 SP1 Novell released DSfW (Domain Services for Windows) the worst named product ever...  Domain Services for Linux would be better, but I really think of it as Active eDirectory - you have your eDirectory tree and you can access it by NCP, LDAP etc. just as normal, but now you can also do all of the AD type access as well - but there is only on object - one password  - all rolled into one!

>From some marketing blurb - 

Novell Domain Services for Windows (DSfW), a component of Open Enterprise Server (OES) 2 SP1, creates seamless cross-authentication capabilities between Windows/Active Directory* and Novell OES 2 Linux/eDirectory Servers. This suite of technologies allows Novell customers with Windows networking environments to set up one or more *virtual* Active Directory domains in an eDirectory tree. Users can then log in and authenticate to both eDirectory and Active Directory from a Windows workstation without requiring multiple logins or having the Novell Client for Windows installed.

With Domain Services for Windows, eDirectory users can use familiar Windows desktop operations to access file services regardless of the platform/operating system where the service resides. Users can access Novell Storage Services (NSS) volumes on Linux servers by using Samba shares or NTFS files on Windows servers that use CIFS shares. eDirectory users can also access shares in trusted Active Directory forests.

T


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>>> On 08 February, 2009 at 20:26, "Leslie Hooe" <hooeld at bay.k12.fl.us> wrote: 
> You can do that?? Cool, Now what do I tell my programmers that think the only 
> system out there is AD??
>  
>  
>  
> Leslie Hooe
> Telecommunications Manager
> Bay District Schools
> (850) 747-5295 
> 
>>>> On 2/8/2009 at 1:46 PM, in message <498F369F020000BB0004B152 at mail2.nds8.com>, 
> "Tim Heywood" <tim at nds8.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hi Larry,
> 
> You have been around long enough to take that with a pinch of salt -
> hence the question just to be sure that this chap is smoking something
> that you can find on the corner shop shelves....
> 
> Having a XP workstation log in to Active Directory and eDirectory at
> the same time is what 80%+ of all eDirectory managed workstations do...
> 
> I would like to be the fly on the wall when you tell him though  :-)
> 
> T


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From smf34 at cam.ac.uk  Mon Feb  9 10:37:48 2009
From: smf34 at cam.ac.uk (Simon Flood)
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 10:37:48 +0000
Subject: 2008 sbs
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On 08/02/2009 20:31, Tim Heywood wrote:

> Active eDirectory

Now Tim you know you're not supposed to call it that! ;-)

Simon

From tim at nds8.co.uk  Mon Feb  9 15:23:24 2009
From: tim at nds8.co.uk (Tim Heywood)
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 15:23:24 +0000
Subject: 2008 sbs
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I didn't

"but I really think of it as Active eDirectory"

T

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>>> On 09 February, 2009 at 10:37, Simon Flood <smf34 at cam.ac.uk> wrote:

> On 08/02/2009 20:31, Tim Heywood wrote:
> 
>> Active eDirectory
> 
> Now Tim you know you're not supposed to call it that! ;-)
> 
> Simon
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From TJohnson at lancaster.wnyric.org  Mon Feb  9 17:11:20 2009
From: TJohnson at lancaster.wnyric.org (TJohnson at lancaster.wnyric.org)
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 12:11:20 -0500
Subject: Speaking of DSfW
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We are looking into DSfW (and I agree DSfL would have been a much better
name) in my reading of the documentation it seemed like when having a
single eDirectory tree with DSfW that you would not be able to have a
Windows workstation with Novell client login to the tree and the emulated
AD tree in the "Windows" tab of the client.  Does that make sense and am I
reading that correctly?

Would I just use a DLU or standard Windows user on all Windows
workstations?  I am trying to understand how the Windows authentication
portion of the Novell client would work when logging into an eDirectory
tree with DSfW?

I hope this makes sense.

Thanks.

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From tim at nds8.co.uk  Mon Feb  9 19:19:44 2009
From: tim at nds8.co.uk (Tim Heywood)
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 19:19:44 +0000
Subject: Speaking of DSfW
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Officially the MS APIs do not support the workstation being in the DSfW
domain while the user is logged in - this is the same as saying that you
should be logged into eDirectory and AD at the same time...  Well, I
don't know about you, but I know 100s of 1000s of workstations on
networks that are logged into both...

Or, you could keep using DLU on the workstation

T


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>>> On 09 February, 2009 at 17:11, <TJohnson at lancaster.wnyric.org>
wrote: 
> We are looking into DSfW (and I agree DSfL would have been a much
better
> name) in my reading of the documentation it seemed like when having
a
> single eDirectory tree with DSfW that you would not be able to have
a
> Windows workstation with Novell client login to the tree and the
emulated
> AD tree in the "Windows" tab of the client.  Does that make sense and
am I
> reading that correctly?
> 
> Would I just use a DLU or standard Windows user on all Windows
> workstations?  I am trying to understand how the Windows
authentication
> portion of the Novell client would work when logging into an
eDirectory
> tree with DSfW?
> 
> I hope this makes sense.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> T2
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From TJohnson at lancaster.wnyric.org  Mon Feb  9 19:57:50 2009
From: TJohnson at lancaster.wnyric.org (TJohnson at lancaster.wnyric.org)
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 14:57:50 -0500
Subject: Speaking of DSfW
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Thanks Tim, I think I will do a bit of testing on my test network and see
how badly I can blow up DSfW ;-)

T2


                                                                           
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Officially the MS APIs do not support the workstation being in the DSfW
domain while the user is logged in - this is the same as saying that you
should be logged into eDirectory and AD at the same time...  Well, I
don't know about you, but I know 100s of 1000s of workstations on
networks that are logged into both...

Or, you could keep using DLU on the workstation

T


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>>> On 09 February, 2009 at 17:11, <TJohnson at lancaster.wnyric.org>
wrote:
> We are looking into DSfW (and I agree DSfL would have been a much
better
> name) in my reading of the documentation it seemed like when having
a
> single eDirectory tree with DSfW that you would not be able to have
a
> Windows workstation with Novell client login to the tree and the
emulated
> AD tree in the "Windows" tab of the client.  Does that make sense and
am I
> reading that correctly?
>
> Would I just use a DLU or standard Windows user on all Windows
> workstations?  I am trying to understand how the Windows
authentication
> portion of the Novell client would work when logging into an
eDirectory
> tree with DSfW?
>
> I hope this makes sense.
>
> Thanks.
>
> T2
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From Simon.Shilton at acustica.co.uk  Tue Feb 10 14:18:54 2009
From: Simon.Shilton at acustica.co.uk (Simon Shilton)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:18:54 +0000
Subject: OES1sp2 to OES2sp1 ifolder Transfer ID
In-Reply-To: <499081D0020000BB0004B4F3@mail2.nds8.com>
References: <b433a1e35d0915bc7dfc0494e338daed@ladyburd.com><498F369F020000BB0004B152@mail2.nds8.com><498EEB8B020000010020C78F@BNGW.bay.k12.fl.us><498F412F020000BB0004B19C@mail2.nds8.com>
	<4990077C.4040800@cam.ac.uk> <49904A6C020000BB0004B34E@mail2.nds8.com>
	<OF683F7E9C.768BBF39-ON85257558.005E5E0C-85257558.005E6D04@lancaster.wnyric.org>
	<499081D0020000BB0004B4F3@mail2.nds8.com>
Message-ID: <49918CCE020000AB00019B1B@dylan.trident.acustica.co.uk>

OES1 sp2 source server with ifolder 3.2
ifolder 3.2 data configured at:  /ifolder
/ifolder setup as ncp vol1

OES2 sp1 target server with ifolder 3.7 installed
ifolder 3.7 data configured at:  /ifolder
/ifolder setup as ncp vol1

first I copied Simias.config across from the source to the target server
 
then I need to copy ifolder data files across using the FILESYSTEM migration within miggui
 
Question: 
do I just copy the contents of ../simias/SimiasFiles across i.e. purely the user data files?
or do I copy across the whole ../simias data set across, including CollectionFiles, Conflicts, FlaimSimias.rfl, log, SimiasFiles and WorkArea?
 
I think it is just SimiasFiles, but the docs are unclear "you must perform the File System Migration for the source data path" and "Select File System Migration, then click Configure and give the iFolder 3.2 file system details."
 
thanks
Simon

From joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk  Tue Feb 10 14:31:48 2009
From: joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk (Joe Doupnik)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:31:48 +0000
Subject: OES1sp2 to OES2sp1 ifolder Transfer ID
In-Reply-To: <49918CCE020000AB00019B1B@dylan.trident.acustica.co.uk>
References: <b433a1e35d0915bc7dfc0494e338daed@ladyburd.com><498F369F020000BB0004B152@mail2.nds8.com><498EEB8B020000010020C78F@BNGW.bay.k12.fl.us><498F412F020000BB0004B19C@mail2.nds8.com>	<4990077C.4040800@cam.ac.uk>
	<49904A6C020000BB0004B34E@mail2.nds8.com>	<OF683F7E9C.768BBF39-ON85257558.005E5E0C-85257558.005E6D04@lancaster.wnyric.org>	<499081D0020000BB0004B4F3@mail2.nds8.com>
	<49918CCE020000AB00019B1B@dylan.trident.acustica.co.uk>
Message-ID: <49918FD4.7060700@oucs.ox.ac.uk>

Simon Shilton wrote:
> OES1 sp2 source server with ifolder 3.2
> ifolder 3.2 data configured at:  /ifolder
> /ifolder setup as ncp vol1
> 
> OES2 sp1 target server with ifolder 3.7 installed
> ifolder 3.7 data configured at:  /ifolder
> /ifolder setup as ncp vol1
> 
> first I copied Simias.config across from the source to the target server
>  
> then I need to copy ifolder data files across using the FILESYSTEM migration within miggui
>  
> Question: 
> do I just copy the contents of ../simias/SimiasFiles across i.e. purely the user data files?
> or do I copy across the whole ../simias data set across, including CollectionFiles, Conflicts, FlaimSimias.rfl, log, SimiasFiles and WorkArea?
>  
> I think it is just SimiasFiles, but the docs are unclear "you must perform the File System Migration for the source data path" and "Select File System Migration, then click Configure and give the iFolder 3.2 file system details."
>  
> thanks
> Simon
---------
Two quick comments.
	1. It helps to review the migration documentation on the matter, but as you
note those are often ambiguous. Best to copy "the whole thing" because the mig utils
will need the bookkeeping information.
	2. I will be talking about some of this in next week's web-video based course on
Migrating things to OES2 SP1. http://www.mindworksuk.com/ for details.
	Joe D.

From Simon.Shilton at acustica.co.uk  Tue Feb 10 15:02:20 2009
From: Simon.Shilton at acustica.co.uk (Simon Shilton)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 15:02:20 +0000
Subject: OES1sp2 to OES2sp1 ifolder Transfer ID
In-Reply-To: <49918FD4.7060700@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
References: <b433a1e35d0915bc7dfc0494e338daed@ladyburd.com><498F369F020000BB0004B152@mail2.nds8.com><498EEB8B020000010020C78F@BNGW.bay.k12.fl.us><498F412F020000BB0004B19C@mail2.nds8.com>
	<4990077C.4040800@cam.ac.uk> <49904A6C020000BB0004B34E@mail2.nds8.com>
	<OF683F7E9C.768BBF39-ON85257558.005E5E0C-85257558.005E6D04@lancaster.wnyric.org>
	<499081D0020000BB0004B4F3@mail2.nds8.com>
	<49918CCE020000AB00019B1B@dylan.trident.acustica.co.uk>
	<49918FD4.7060700@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <499196FC020000AB00019B28@dylan.trident.acustica.co.uk>

Joe
 

1. It helps to review the migration documentation on the matter, but as you
note those are often ambiguous. Best to copy "the whole thing" because the mig utils
will need the bookkeeping information.
 
I have been reviewing the docs, hence the quotes of unclear statements :-)
 
Some other things to note:
1) If I drag an drop a folder from source to target, and the folder name already exists on target, miggui freezes - but I cannot select individual files from within folders
 
2) I am now getting an nbackup error 
 
migfiles:Error: nbackup command failed to execute: nbackup: Connection denied
migfiles:Error:migfiles command failed!
 
thanks
Simon
 


>>> On 10 February 2009 at 14:31, in message <49918FD4.7060700 at oucs.ox.ac.uk>, Joe Doupnik <joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk> wrote:

1. It helps to review the migration documentation on the matter, but as you
note those are often ambiguous. Best to copy "the whole thing" because the mig utils
will need the bookkeeping information.

2. I will be talking about some of this in next week's web-video based course on
Migrating things to OES2 SP1. http://www.mindworksuk.com/for details.

From joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk  Tue Feb 10 15:18:16 2009
From: joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk (Joe Doupnik)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 15:18:16 +0000
Subject: OES1sp2 to OES2sp1 ifolder Transfer ID
In-Reply-To: <499196FC020000AB00019B28@dylan.trident.acustica.co.uk>
References: <b433a1e35d0915bc7dfc0494e338daed@ladyburd.com><498F369F020000BB0004B152@mail2.nds8.com><498EEB8B020000010020C78F@BNGW.bay.k12.fl.us><498F412F020000BB0004B19C@mail2.nds8.com>	<4990077C.4040800@cam.ac.uk>
	<49904A6C020000BB0004B34E@mail2.nds8.com>	<OF683F7E9C.768BBF39-ON85257558.005E5E0C-85257558.005E6D04@lancaster.wnyric.org>	<499081D0020000BB0004B4F3@mail2.nds8.com>	<49918CCE020000AB00019B1B@dylan.trident.acustica.co.uk>	<49918FD4.7060700@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
	<499196FC020000AB00019B28@dylan.trident.acustica.co.uk>
Message-ID: <49919AB8.10609@oucs.ox.ac.uk>

Simon Shilton wrote:
> Joe
>  
> 
> 1. It helps to review the migration documentation on the matter, but as you
> note those are often ambiguous. Best to copy "the whole thing" because the mig utils
> will need the bookkeeping information.
>  
> I have been reviewing the docs, hence the quotes of unclear statements :-)
>  
> Some other things to note:
> 1) If I drag an drop a folder from source to target, and the folder name already exists on target, miggui freezes - but I cannot select individual files from within folders
>  
> 2) I am now getting an nbackup error 
>  
> migfiles:Error: nbackup command failed to execute: nbackup: Connection denied
> migfiles:Error:migfiles command failed!
>  
> thanks
> Simon
----------
	There is a "refresh" button which ought to deal with the re-copy desire.
The GUI is rather useful and handy, but it has some way to go yet about robustness
and awkward cases. Your connection denied message suggests authentication problems,
a matter which permeates the migration material. You can try nbackup by hand at the
command line to see how it responds.
	Joe D.

From Setienne at enesco.com  Wed Feb 11 15:32:59 2009
From: Setienne at enesco.com (Scott Etienne)
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 09:32:59 -0600
Subject: Syncing time to Windows servers
In-Reply-To: <49904A6C020000BB0004B34E@mail2.nds8.com>
References: <b433a1e35d0915bc7dfc0494e338daed@ladyburd.com>
	<498F369F020000BB0004B152@mail2.nds8.com>
	<498EEB8B020000010020C78F@BNGW.bay.k12.fl.us>
	<498F412F020000BB0004B19C@mail2.nds8.com> <4990077C.4040800@cam.ac.uk>
	<49904A6C020000BB0004B34E@mail2.nds8.com>
Message-ID: <49929B4A.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>

NetWare 6.5 SP7, Windows Server 2003 R2. The NetWare server is configured to use XNTPD. I am seeing error messages on the XNTPD debug screen that say:
 
Ensure that you have the right keys
 - peer authentication failure
 
We don't really care about secure authentication for our internal time sync. Is there an easy solution to this?
 
Any help greatly appreciated.
 
 
 
Thank you,

Scott Etienne
Network Engineer
Enesco, LLC
setienne at enesco.com 

 

From Setienne at enesco.com  Wed Feb 11 19:07:06 2009
From: Setienne at enesco.com (Scott Etienne)
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 13:07:06 -0600
Subject: Syncing time to Windows servers
In-Reply-To: <49929B4A.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>
References: <b433a1e35d0915bc7dfc0494e338daed@ladyburd.com>
	<498F369F020000BB0004B152@mail2.nds8.com>
	<498EEB8B020000010020C78F@BNGW.bay.k12.fl.us>
	<498F412F020000BB0004B19C@mail2.nds8.com> <4990077C.4040800@cam.ac.uk>
	<49904A6C020000BB0004B34E@mail2.nds8.com>
	<49929B4A.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>
Message-ID: <4992CD7A.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>

I see a little more info may be helpful. We are trying to use a Novell server as the time source for our entire network. I am seeing authentication errors for some of our Windows servers.
 
Ensure that you have the right keys
- peer authentication failure
Hope this helps.
 
Thank you,

Scott Etienne
Network Engineer
Enesco, LLC
setienne at enesco.com 

 


>>> On 2/11/2009 at 9:32 AM, in message <49929B4A.8A77.004D.0 at enesco.com>, "Scott Etienne" <Setienne at enesco.com> wrote:
NetWare 6.5 SP7, Windows Server 2003 R2. The NetWare server is configured to use XNTPD. I am seeing error messages on the XNTPD debug screen that say:

Ensure that you have the right keys
- peer authentication failure

We don't really care about secure authentication for our internal time sync. Is there an easy solution to this?

Any help greatly appreciated.



Thank you,

Scott Etienne
Network Engineer
Enesco, LLC
setienne at enesco.com 


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From Robrinsky at roillc.com  Wed Feb 11 19:16:24 2009
From: Robrinsky at roillc.com (Robert Obrinsky)
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 11:16:24 -0800
Subject: Syncing time to Windows servers
In-Reply-To: <4992CD7A.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>
References: <b433a1e35d0915bc7dfc0494e338daed@ladyburd.com>
	<498F369F020000BB0004B152@mail2.nds8.com>
	<498EEB8B020000010020C78F@BNGW.bay.k12.fl.us>
	<498F412F020000BB0004B19C@mail2.nds8.com> <4990077C.4040800@cam.ac.uk>
	<49904A6C020000BB0004B34E@mail2.nds8.com>
	<49929B4A.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> <4992CD7A.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>
Message-ID: <4992B388.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com>

In that case, try downloading symtime from snapfiles.com and configure to use the NW server.
 
Robert W. Obrinsky
President
Robert Obrinsky Industries, LLC
1908 SE 45th Avenue
Portland, OR 97215
503.719.4387 (Office)
203.273.7012 (Mobile)


>>> "Scott Etienne" <Setienne at enesco.com> 2/11/2009 11:07 AM >>>
I see a little more info may be helpful. We are trying to use a Novell server as the time source for our entire network. I am seeing authentication errors for some of our Windows servers.

Ensure that you have the right keys
- peer authentication failure
Hope this helps.

Thank you,

Scott Etienne
Network Engineer
Enesco, LLC
setienne at enesco.com 




>>> On 2/11/2009 at 9:32 AM, in message <49929B4A.8A77.004D.0 at enesco.com>, "Scott Etienne" <Setienne at enesco.com> wrote:
NetWare 6.5 SP7, Windows Server 2003 R2. The NetWare server is configured to use XNTPD. I am seeing error messages on the XNTPD debug screen that say:

Ensure that you have the right keys
- peer authentication failure

We don't really care about secure authentication for our internal time sync. Is there an easy solution to this?

Any help greatly appreciated.



Thank you,

Scott Etienne
Network Engineer
Enesco, LLC
setienne at enesco.com 


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From joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk  Wed Feb 11 19:27:52 2009
From: joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk (jrd)
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 19:27:52 +0000
Subject: Syncing time to Windows servers
In-Reply-To: <4992B388.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com>
References: <b433a1e35d0915bc7dfc0494e338daed@ladyburd.com>	<498F369F020000BB0004B152@mail2.nds8.com>	<498EEB8B020000010020C78F@BNGW.bay.k12.fl.us>	<498F412F020000BB0004B19C@mail2.nds8.com>
	<4990077C.4040800@cam.ac.uk>	<49904A6C020000BB0004B34E@mail2.nds8.com>	<49929B4A.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>
	<4992CD7A.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> <4992B388.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com>
Message-ID: <499326B8.3010005@oucs.ox.ac.uk>

Robert Obrinsky wrote:
> In that case, try downloading symtime from snapfiles.com and configure to use the NW server.
>  
> Robert W. Obrinsky
> President
> Robert Obrinsky Industries, LLC
> 1908 SE 45th Avenue
> Portland, OR 97215
> 503.719.4387 (Office)
> 203.273.7012 (Mobile)
> 
----------
	Or best of all, use real NTP on Windows.
http://www.ntp.org/
   Downloads
   Third party Implementations and Ports
Get the Win NT/XP/2000/2003 version which works well.
Free, open source, all that good stuff.
	Do be wary of client-only NTP code as many do
very old things.
	Joe D.


From Setienne at enesco.com  Wed Feb 11 20:14:28 2009
From: Setienne at enesco.com (Scott Etienne)
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:14:28 -0600
Subject: Syncing time to Windows servers
In-Reply-To: <499326B8.3010005@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
References: <b433a1e35d0915bc7dfc0494e338daed@ladyburd.com>	<498F369F020000BB0004B152@mail2.nds8.com>	<498EEB8B020000010020C78F@BNGW.bay.k12.fl.us>	<498F412F020000BB0004B19C@mail2.nds8.com>
	<4990077C.4040800@cam.ac.uk>	<49904A6C020000BB0004B34E@mail2.nds8.com>	<49929B4A.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>
	<4992CD7A.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>
	<4992B388.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com><4992B388.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com>
	<499326B8.3010005@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <4992DD43.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>

Thanks!
 
Scott Etienne
Network Engineer
Enesco, LLC
setienne at enesco.com 

 


>>> On 2/11/2009 at 1:27 PM, in message <499326B8.3010005 at oucs.ox.ac.uk>, jrd <joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
Robert Obrinsky wrote:
> In that case, try downloading symtime from snapfiles.com and configure to use the NW server.
>  
> Robert W. Obrinsky
> President
> Robert Obrinsky Industries, LLC
> 1908 SE 45th Avenue
> Portland, OR 97215
> 503.719.4387 (Office)
> 203.273.7012 (Mobile)
> 
----------
Or best of all, use real NTP on Windows.
http://www.ntp.org/ 
   Downloads
   Third party Implementations and Ports
Get the Win NT/XP/2000/2003 version which works well.
Free, open source, all that good stuff.
Do be wary of client-only NTP code as many do
very old things.
Joe D.

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From Setienne at enesco.com  Wed Feb 11 20:21:38 2009
From: Setienne at enesco.com (Scott Etienne)
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:21:38 -0600
Subject: Syncing time to Windows servers
In-Reply-To: <499326B8.3010005@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
References: <b433a1e35d0915bc7dfc0494e338daed@ladyburd.com>	<498F369F020000BB0004B152@mail2.nds8.com>	<498EEB8B020000010020C78F@BNGW.bay.k12.fl.us>	<498F412F020000BB0004B19C@mail2.nds8.com>
	<4990077C.4040800@cam.ac.uk>	<49904A6C020000BB0004B34E@mail2.nds8.com>	<49929B4A.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>
	<4992CD7A.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>
	<4992B388.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com><4992B388.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com>
	<499326B8.3010005@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <4992DEF2.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>

The Windows sysadmin is wary of non-MS software, and I would rather avoid 3rd-party .nlms. Would I have better luck if the NTP server was SLES?
 
Thank you,

Scott Etienne
Network Engineer
Enesco, LLC
setienne at enesco.com 

 


>>> On 2/11/2009 at 1:27 PM, in message <499326B8.3010005 at oucs.ox.ac.uk>, jrd <joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
Robert Obrinsky wrote:
> In that case, try downloading symtime from snapfiles.com and configure to use the NW server.
>  
> Robert W. Obrinsky
> President
> Robert Obrinsky Industries, LLC
> 1908 SE 45th Avenue
> Portland, OR 97215
> 503.719.4387 (Office)
> 203.273.7012 (Mobile)
> 
----------
Or best of all, use real NTP on Windows.
http://www.ntp.org/ 
   Downloads
   Third party Implementations and Ports
Get the Win NT/XP/2000/2003 version which works well.
Free, open source, all that good stuff.
Do be wary of client-only NTP code as many do
very old things.
Joe D.

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From joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk  Wed Feb 11 20:55:15 2009
From: joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk (jrd)
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 20:55:15 +0000
Subject: Syncing time to Windows servers
In-Reply-To: <4992DEF2.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>
References: <b433a1e35d0915bc7dfc0494e338daed@ladyburd.com>	<498F369F020000BB0004B152@mail2.nds8.com>	<498EEB8B020000010020C78F@BNGW.bay.k12.fl.us>	<498F412F020000BB0004B19C@mail2.nds8.com>	<4990077C.4040800@cam.ac.uk>	<49904A6C020000BB0004B34E@mail2.nds8.com>	<49929B4A.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>	<4992CD7A.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>	<4992B388.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com><4992B388.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com>	<499326B8.3010005@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
	<4992DEF2.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>
Message-ID: <49933B33.30208@oucs.ox.ac.uk>

Scott Etienne wrote:
> The Windows sysadmin is wary of non-MS software, and I would rather avoid 3rd-party .nlms. Would I have better luck if the NTP server was SLES?
>  
> Thank you,
> 
> Scott Etienne
> Network Engineer
> Enesco, LLC
> setienne at enesco.com 
----------
	NTP on SLES is pure NTP, solid material.
	Joe D.

From Robrinsky at roillc.com  Wed Feb 11 21:17:28 2009
From: Robrinsky at roillc.com (Robert Obrinsky)
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 13:17:28 -0800
Subject: Syncing time to Windows servers
In-Reply-To: <4992DEF2.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>
References: <b433a1e35d0915bc7dfc0494e338daed@ladyburd.com>
	<498F369F020000BB0004B152@mail2.nds8.com>
	<498EEB8B020000010020C78F@BNGW.bay.k12.fl.us>
	<498F412F020000BB0004B19C@mail2.nds8.com> <4990077C.4040800@cam.ac.uk>
	<49904A6C020000BB0004B34E@mail2.nds8.com>
	<49929B4A.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> <4992CD7A.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>
	<4992B388.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com><4992B388.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com>
	<499326B8.3010005@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <4992DEF2.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>
Message-ID: <4992CFE80200006D0002AF8D@roi-03.roillc.com>

I don't think Windows servers support NTP without a third party add-on. Hence my recommendation for Symtime and Joe D.'s recommendation to get the third party add-on from ntp.org.
 
Robert W. Obrinsky
President
Robert Obrinsky Industries, LLC
1908 SE 45th Avenue
Portland, OR 97215
503.719.4387 (Office)
203.273.7012 (Mobile)


>>> "Scott Etienne" <Setienne at enesco.com> 2/11/2009 12:21 PM >>>
The Windows sysadmin is wary of non-MS software, and I would rather avoid 3rd-party .nlms. Would I have better luck if the NTP server was SLES?

Thank you,

Scott Etienne
Network Engineer
Enesco, LLC
setienne at enesco.com 




>>> On 2/11/2009 at 1:27 PM, in message <499326B8.3010005 at oucs.ox.ac.uk>, jrd <joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
Robert Obrinsky wrote:
> In that case, try downloading symtime from snapfiles.com and configure to use the NW server.
>  
> Robert W. Obrinsky
> President
> Robert Obrinsky Industries, LLC
> 1908 SE 45th Avenue
> Portland, OR 97215
> 503.719.4387 (Office)
> 203.273.7012 (Mobile)
> 
----------
Or best of all, use real NTP on Windows.
http://www.ntp.org/ 
   Downloads
   Third party Implementations and Ports
Get the Win NT/XP/2000/2003 version which works well.
Free, open source, all that good stuff.
Do be wary of client-only NTP code as many do
very old things.
Joe D.

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From Robrinsky at roillc.com  Wed Feb 11 21:18:23 2009
From: Robrinsky at roillc.com (Robert Obrinsky)
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 13:18:23 -0800
Subject: Syncing time to Windows servers
In-Reply-To: <49933B33.30208@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
References: <b433a1e35d0915bc7dfc0494e338daed@ladyburd.com>
	<498F369F020000BB0004B152@mail2.nds8.com>
	<498EEB8B020000010020C78F@BNGW.bay.k12.fl.us>
	<498F412F020000BB0004B19C@mail2.nds8.com> <4990077C.4040800@cam.ac.uk>
	<49904A6C020000BB0004B34E@mail2.nds8.com>
	<49929B4A.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> <4992CD7A.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>
	<4992B388.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com><4992B388.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com>
	<499326B8.3010005@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <4992DEF2.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>
	<49933B33.30208@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <4992D01F0200006D0002AF91@roi-03.roillc.com>

But Windows servers will still need an add-on, I believe, in order to synchronize against an NTP source.
 
Robert W. Obrinsky
President
Robert Obrinsky Industries, LLC
1908 SE 45th Avenue
Portland, OR 97215
503.719.4387 (Office)
203.273.7012 (Mobile)


>>> jrd <joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk> 2/11/2009 12:55 PM >>>
Scott Etienne wrote:
> The Windows sysadmin is wary of non-MS software, and I would rather avoid 3rd-party .nlms. Would I have better luck if the NTP server was SLES?
>  
> Thank you,
> 
> Scott Etienne
> Network Engineer
> Enesco, LLC
> setienne at enesco.com 
----------
NTP on SLES is pure NTP, solid material.
Joe D.
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From jbarnes at ccsuvt.org  Wed Feb 11 22:08:55 2009
From: jbarnes at ccsuvt.org (Jack Barnes)
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:08:55 -0500
Subject: Network time
Message-ID: <49930627.FA88.0022.0@ccsuvt.org>

I have a mixture of mostly Netware 6.5 but there are still a few 6.0 servers in the mix.  As I look at moving to NTP, It seems that NTP only runs on NW 6.5.  

It looks like I will need two groups, one on Timesync and the other on NTP.  

I wondered if anyone had this setup and is it working OK.  Also, what outside time sources are you using for your primary's?

Thanks,



Jack W. Barnes, CNE
Network Administrator
CCSU
jbarnes at ccsuvt.org
Office 802-857-7000
Ext. 1039
Cell 802-318-0976
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From James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com  Wed Feb 11 22:14:10 2009
From: James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com (James Taylor)
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:14:10 -0500
Subject: Network time
In-Reply-To: <49930627.FA88.0022.0@ccsuvt.org>
References: <49930627.FA88.0022.0@ccsuvt.org>
Message-ID: <499307620200007500029E16@inet.eastcobbgroup.com>

What I generally do in these cases is to set the primary for the timesync (6.0) servers to one of the NTP (6.5) servers.  The NTP servers will respond to timesync requests unless you specifically disable that function.
-jt

 

James Taylor
The East Cobb Group, Inc.
678-697-9420
james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com
http://www.eastcobbgroup.com






>>> "Jack Barnes" <jbarnes at ccsuvt.org> 2/11/2009 05:08 PM >>> 
I have a mixture of mostly Netware 6.5 but there are still a few 6.0 servers in the mix.  As I look at moving to NTP, It seems that NTP only runs on NW 6.5.  

It looks like I will need two groups, one on Timesync and the other on NTP.  

I wondered if anyone had this setup and is it working OK.  Also, what outside time sources are you using for your primary's?

Thanks,



Jack W. Barnes, CNE
Network Administrator
CCSU
jbarnes at ccsuvt.org
Office 802-857-7000
Ext. 1039
Cell 802-318-0976
Fax 802-879-8197




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From Robrinsky at roillc.com  Wed Feb 11 22:40:37 2009
From: Robrinsky at roillc.com (Robert Obrinsky)
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:40:37 -0800
Subject: Network time
In-Reply-To: <49930627.FA88.0022.0@ccsuvt.org>
References: <49930627.FA88.0022.0@ccsuvt.org>
Message-ID: <4992E365.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com>

Actually, you can run xntpd on Netware 6, but it is not officially supported. I had a mixture of NW6 and NW6.5 running NTP a number of years ago, but I've moved off of NW6.
 
Robert W. Obrinsky
President
Robert Obrinsky Industries, LLC
1908 SE 45th Avenue
Portland, OR 97215
503.719.4387 (Office)
203.273.7012 (Mobile)


>>> "Jack Barnes" <jbarnes at ccsuvt.org> 2/11/2009 2:08 PM >>>
I have a mixture of mostly Netware 6.5 but there are still a few 6.0 servers in the mix.  As I look at moving to NTP, It seems that NTP only runs on NW 6.5.  

It looks like I will need two groups, one on Timesync and the other on NTP.  

I wondered if anyone had this setup and is it working OK.  Also, what outside time sources are you using for your primary's?

Thanks,



Jack W. Barnes, CNE
Network Administrator
CCSU
jbarnes at ccsuvt.org 
Office 802-857-7000
Ext. 1039
Cell 802-318-0976
Fax 802-879-8197




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From RGrein at tpchd.org  Wed Feb 11 23:18:19 2009
From: RGrein at tpchd.org (Randy Grein)
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 15:18:19 -0800
Subject: Syncing time to Windows servers
In-Reply-To: <4992CFE80200006D0002AF8D@roi-03.roillc.com>
References: <b433a1e35d0915bc7dfc0494e338daed@ladyburd.com>
	<498F369F020000BB0004B152@mail2.nds8.com>
	<498EEB8B020000010020C78F@BNGW.bay.k12.fl.us>
	<498F412F020000BB0004B19C@mail2.nds8.com> <4990077C.4040800@cam.ac.uk>
	<49904A6C020000BB0004B34E@mail2.nds8.com>
	<49929B4A.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> <4992CD7A.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>
	<4992B388.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com><4992B388.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com>
	<499326B8.3010005@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <4992DEF2.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>
	<4992CFE80200006D0002AF8D@roi-03.roillc.com>
Message-ID: <4992EC3B.811E.0072.0@tpchd.org>

Actually it does. It's just that there are no knobs to twiddle; for anything important in Windows you need to open regedit (and void support agreements). Check this out:

http://www.windowsnetworking.com/articles_tutorials/Configuring-Windows-Time-Service.html

Randy Grein
Sr. Network Engineer


>>> "Robert Obrinsky" <Robrinsky at roillc.com> 2/11/2009 1:17 PM >>>
I don't think Windows servers support NTP without a third party add-on. Hence my recommendation for Symtime and Joe D.'s recommendation to get the third party add-on from ntp.org.
 
Robert W. Obrinsky
President
Robert Obrinsky Industries, LLC
1908 SE 45th Avenue
Portland, OR 97215
503.719.4387 (Office)
203.273.7012 (Mobile)


>>> "Scott Etienne" <Setienne at enesco.com> 2/11/2009 12:21 PM >>>
The Windows sysadmin is wary of non-MS software, and I would rather avoid 3rd-party .nlms. Would I have better luck if the NTP server was SLES?

Thank you,

Scott Etienne
Network Engineer
Enesco, LLC
setienne at enesco.com 




>>> On 2/11/2009 at 1:27 PM, in message <499326B8.3010005 at oucs.ox.ac.uk>, jrd <joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
Robert Obrinsky wrote:
> In that case, try downloading symtime from snapfiles.com and configure to use the NW server.
>  
> Robert W. Obrinsky
> President
> Robert Obrinsky Industries, LLC
> 1908 SE 45th Avenue
> Portland, OR 97215
> 503.719.4387 (Office)
> 203.273.7012 (Mobile)
> 
----------
Or best of all, use real NTP on Windows.
http://www.ntp.org/ 
   Downloads
   Third party Implementations and Ports
Get the Win NT/XP/2000/2003 version which works well.
Free, open source, all that good stuff.
Do be wary of client-only NTP code as many do
very old things.
Joe D.

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From Robrinsky at roillc.com  Thu Feb 12 00:24:54 2009
From: Robrinsky at roillc.com (Robert Obrinsky)
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 16:24:54 -0800
Subject: Syncing time to Windows servers
In-Reply-To: <4992EC3B.811E.0072.0@tpchd.org>
References: <b433a1e35d0915bc7dfc0494e338daed@ladyburd.com>
	<498F369F020000BB0004B152@mail2.nds8.com>
	<498EEB8B020000010020C78F@BNGW.bay.k12.fl.us>
	<498F412F020000BB0004B19C@mail2.nds8.com> <4990077C.4040800@cam.ac.uk>
	<49904A6C020000BB0004B34E@mail2.nds8.com>
	<49929B4A.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> <4992CD7A.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>
	<4992B388.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com><4992B388.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com>
	<499326B8.3010005@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <4992DEF2.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>
	<4992CFE80200006D0002AF8D@roi-03.roillc.com>
	<4992EC3B.811E.0072.0@tpchd.org>
Message-ID: <4992FBD60200006D0002B018@roi-03.roillc.com>

Thanks Randy, for teaching an old dog a new trick.

>>> "Randy Grein" <RGrein at tpchd.org> 2/11/2009 3:18 PM >>>
Actually it does. It's just that there are no knobs to twiddle; for anything important in Windows you need to open regedit (and void support agreements). Check this out:

http://www.windowsnetworking.com/articles_tutorials/Configuring-Windows-Time-Service.html

Randy Grein
Sr. Network Engineer


>>> "Robert Obrinsky" <Robrinsky at roillc.com> 2/11/2009 1:17 PM >>>
I don't think Windows servers support NTP without a third party add-on. Hence my recommendation for Symtime and Joe D.'s recommendation to get the third party add-on from ntp.org.

Robert W. Obrinsky
President
Robert Obrinsky Industries, LLC
1908 SE 45th Avenue
Portland, OR 97215
503.719.4387 (Office)
203.273.7012 (Mobile)


>>> "Scott Etienne" <Setienne at enesco.com> 2/11/2009 12:21 PM >>>
The Windows sysadmin is wary of non-MS software, and I would rather avoid 3rd-party .nlms. Would I have better luck if the NTP server was SLES?

Thank you,

Scott Etienne
Network Engineer
Enesco, LLC
setienne at enesco.com 




>>> On 2/11/2009 at 1:27 PM, in message <499326B8.3010005 at oucs.ox.ac.uk>, jrd <joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
Robert Obrinsky wrote:
> In that case, try downloading symtime from snapfiles.com and configure to use the NW server.
>  
> Robert W. Obrinsky
> President
> Robert Obrinsky Industries, LLC
> 1908 SE 45th Avenue
> Portland, OR 97215
> 503.719.4387 (Office)
> 203.273.7012 (Mobile)
> 
----------
Or best of all, use real NTP on Windows.
http://www.ntp.org/ 
   Downloads
   Third party Implementations and Ports
Get the Win NT/XP/2000/2003 version which works well.
Free, open source, all that good stuff.
Do be wary of client-only NTP code as many do
very old things.
Joe D.

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From Alan at torahaura.com  Thu Feb 12 02:18:27 2009
From: Alan at torahaura.com (Alan Rowe)
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:18:27 -0800
Subject: Installing first OES linux server
Message-ID: <49931673020000490001F5F2@mail.torahaura.com>

I know I am being dense on this.
 
The error I keep getting when nds tries to install is configuring NDAP interface error bind to port 521 on 192.168.110.50. I know that the card is working right as I can ping the NDS server. I have disabled app armor on the server so that is not causing the problem.  I am at a completely lost on this one. Anyone know what I am doing wrong.
 
 
Alan Rowe
Torah Aura Productions
888-585-8902
323-585-7312
Fax 323-923-6030 

From keyser.soze at whoever.com  Thu Feb 12 02:56:42 2009
From: keyser.soze at whoever.com (Keyser Soze)
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 21:56:42 -0500
Subject: Syncing time to Windows servers
Message-ID: <20090212025642.26E65BE407B@ws1-9.us4.outblaze.com>

Scott,

There's some good info in this thread and the "Network Time" thread for you, but this doesnt change the fact that the MS server should be able to sync its self to netware XNTPD :-)

Can you post the ntp.conf file from the netware box? Also some further information on the 2003 server would be good - Is it a DC or Member server? Does it hold the PDC Emulator role? As other posts state, Windows uses NTP to sync time but the architecture that it uses differs significantly between workstations / member servers and domain controllers. 

There's some good info in the technet pages here

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc773013.aspx

and here

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc773263.aspx

Rgds,

KS

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Etienne" 
To: "Novell LAN Interest Group" 
Subject: Re: Syncing time to Windows servers
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:21:38 -0600


The Windows sysadmin is wary of non-MS software, and I would rather 
avoid 3rd-party .nlms. Would I have better luck if the NTP server 
was SLES?

Thank you,

Scott Etienne
Network Engineer
Enesco, LLC
setienne at enesco.com




>>> On 2/11/2009 at 1:27 PM, in message 
>>> <499326B8.3010005 at oucs.ox.ac.uk>, jrd 
>>>  wrote:
Robert Obrinsky wrote:
> In that case, try downloading symtime from snapfiles.com and 
> configure to use the NW server.
>
> Robert W. Obrinsky
> President
> Robert Obrinsky Industries, LLC
> 1908 SE 45th Avenue
> Portland, OR 97215
> 503.719.4387 (Office)
> 203.273.7012 (Mobile)
>
----------
Or best of all, use real NTP on Windows.
http://www.ntp.org/
    Downloads
    Third party Implementations and Ports
Get the Win NT/XP/2000/2003 version which works well.
Free, open source, all that good stuff.
Do be wary of client-only NTP code as many do
very old things.
Joe D.

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From zzz at minneapolis.edu  Thu Feb 12 03:22:21 2009
From: zzz at minneapolis.edu (zzz)
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 21:22:21 -0600
Subject: Syncing time to Windows servers
Message-ID: <s99341b5.012@halley.mctc.mnscu.edu>

Hi Scott,
I run a mixed environment as well.

All NOVELL boxes point to a NOVELL server for time, and that works for
our NOVELL boxes.

However, why not just point your WINDOZE boxes to the same time source
your NW NTP box is using if you are happy with it?
Not sure why you would be installing any added software to make this
work.
Maybe I missed something?

Thanks

Dana 


>>> Setienne at enesco.com 2/11/2009 2:21:38 PM >>>
The Windows sysadmin is wary of non-MS software, and I would rather
avoid 3rd-party .nlms. Would I have better luck if the NTP server was
SLES?
 
Thank you,

Scott Etienne
Network Engineer
Enesco, LLC
setienne at enesco.com 

 


>>> On 2/11/2009 at 1:27 PM, in message
<499326B8.3010005 at oucs.ox.ac.uk>, jrd <joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk>
wrote:
Robert Obrinsky wrote:
> In that case, try downloading symtime from snapfiles.com and
configure to use the NW server.
>  
> Robert W. Obrinsky
> President
> Robert Obrinsky Industries, LLC
> 1908 SE 45th Avenue
> Portland, OR 97215
> 503.719.4387 (Office)
> 203.273.7012 (Mobile)
> 
----------
Or best of all, use real NTP on Windows.
http://www.ntp.org/ 
   Downloads
   Third party Implementations and Ports
Get the Win NT/XP/2000/2003 version which works well.
Free, open source, all that good stuff.
Do be wary of client-only NTP code as many do
very old things.
Joe D.

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From keyser.soze at whoever.com  Thu Feb 12 03:37:34 2009
From: keyser.soze at whoever.com (Keyser Soze)
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 22:37:34 -0500
Subject: Kablink/Novell T+C - employee directory
Message-ID: <20090212033734.41CBF606861@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com>

Bill,

Did you make any progress with this? Could it be that apparmour is getting in the way of tomcat access to the eGuide folder?

Rgds,

KS

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Brush" 
To: "Novell LAN Interest Group" 
Subject: Re: Kablink/Novell T+C - employee directory
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 10:32:24 -0600


On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Alan Pearson  wrote:
> Hi
>
> I wrote a cool solution how to get eGuide working on OES2, may be of some
> use :
>
> http://www.novell.com/communities/node/2793/adding-eguide-oes1-oes2
> --


These instructions look really good, but upon trying them I don't get
a functional eguide page, I just get a blank white page.  The
redirection is working because if put in the //host/eGuide/ URL it
redirects me to //host/eGuide/servlet/eGuide, but I don't get the
opportunity to login or see anything other than a blank white page.

Any ideas?  I'm not a Tomcat guru so any time I have to start chasing
down something with it I rapidly leave my depth.

Thanks to anyone who can give me some pointers on this.

Bill
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From James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com  Thu Feb 12 12:25:11 2009
From: James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com (James Taylor)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 07:25:11 -0500
Subject: Installing first OES linux server
In-Reply-To: <49931673020000490001F5F2@mail.torahaura.com>
References: <49931673020000490001F5F2@mail.torahaura.com>
Message-ID: <4993CED70200007500044F38@inet.eastcobbgroup.com>

apparmor doesn't affect the firewall.  Verify you are not blocking ports on the firewall.
I would suggest turning off the firewall, if it is on, and trying it again.  If it works you need to make sure the appropriate ports on the firewall are open. 
One way to confirm this would be to see if you can telnet from the server to the active nds server on port 521.
-jt 


James Taylor
The East Cobb Group, Inc.
678-697-9420
james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com
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>>> "Alan Rowe" <Alan at torahaura.com> 2/11/2009 09:18 PM >>> 
I know I am being dense on this.
 
The error I keep getting when nds tries to install is configuring NDAP interface error bind to port 521 on 192.168.110.50. I know that the card is working right as I can ping the NDS server. I have disabled app armor on the server so that is not causing the problem.  I am at a completely lost on this one. Anyone know what I am doing wrong.
 
 
Alan Rowe
Torah Aura Productions
888-585-8902
323-585-7312
Fax 323-923-6030 
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From Setienne at enesco.com  Thu Feb 12 14:15:38 2009
From: Setienne at enesco.com (Scott Etienne)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 08:15:38 -0600
Subject: Network time
In-Reply-To: <4992E365.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com>
References: <49930627.FA88.0022.0@ccsuvt.org> <4992E365.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com>
Message-ID: <4993DAA9.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>

We see error messages on the NetWare 6.5 server regarding authentication requests from the Windows PDC and BDC. But, the Windows servers are in perfect sync with the network time provider, a NetWare 6.5 server. The Windows PDC and BDC are configured to only get their time from our network time provider. So, I am inclined to say that the Windows servers are syncing, and that we are seeing error messages, because they are trying to authenticate, but cannot and are accepting the time sync from this source nonetheless.
 
Thank you,

Scott Etienne
Network Engineer
Enesco, LLC
setienne at enesco.com 

 


>>> On 2/11/2009 at 4:40 PM, in message <4992E365.9F9C.006D.0 at roillc.com>, "Robert Obrinsky" <Robrinsky at roillc.com> wrote:
Actually, you can run xntpd on Netware 6, but it is not officially supported. I had a mixture of NW6 and NW6.5 running NTP a number of years ago, but I've moved off of NW6.

Robert W. Obrinsky
President
Robert Obrinsky Industries, LLC
1908 SE 45th Avenue
Portland, OR 97215
503.719.4387 (Office)
203.273.7012 (Mobile)


>>> "Jack Barnes" <jbarnes at ccsuvt.org> 2/11/2009 2:08 PM >>>
I have a mixture of mostly Netware 6.5 but there are still a few 6.0 servers in the mix.  As I look at moving to NTP, It seems that NTP only runs on NW 6.5.  

It looks like I will need two groups, one on Timesync and the other on NTP.  

I wondered if anyone had this setup and is it working OK.  Also, what outside time sources are you using for your primary's?

Thanks,



Jack W. Barnes, CNE
Network Administrator
CCSU
jbarnes at ccsuvt.org 
Office 802-857-7000
Ext. 1039
Cell 802-318-0976
Fax 802-879-8197




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From joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk  Thu Feb 12 14:29:43 2009
From: joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk (Joe Doupnik)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 14:29:43 +0000
Subject: Network time
In-Reply-To: <4993DAA9.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>
References: <49930627.FA88.0022.0@ccsuvt.org> <4992E365.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com>
	<4993DAA9.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>
Message-ID: <49943257.7070908@oucs.ox.ac.uk>

Scott Etienne wrote:
> We see error messages on the NetWare 6.5 server regarding authentication requests from the Windows PDC and BDC. But, the Windows servers are in perfect sync with the network time provider, a NetWare 6.5 server. The Windows PDC and BDC are configured to only get their time from our network time provider. So, I am inclined to say that the Windows servers are syncing, and that we are seeing error messages, because they are trying to authenticate, but cannot and are accepting the time sync from this source nonetheless.
>  
> Thank you,
> 
> Scott Etienne
> Network Engineer
> Enesco, LLC
> setienne at enesco.com 
> 
>  
> 
> 
>>>> On 2/11/2009 at 4:40 PM, in message <4992E365.9F9C.006D.0 at roillc.com>, "Robert Obrinsky" <Robrinsky at roillc.com> wrote:
> Actually, you can run xntpd on Netware 6, but it is not officially supported. I had a mixture of NW6 and NW6.5 running NTP a number of years ago, but I've moved off of NW6.
> 
> Robert W. Obrinsky
> President
> Robert Obrinsky Industries, LLC
> 1908 SE 45th Avenue
> Portland, OR 97215
> 503.719.4387 (Office)
> 203.273.7012 (Mobile)
> 
> 
>>>> "Jack Barnes" <jbarnes at ccsuvt.org> 2/11/2009 2:08 PM >>>
> I have a mixture of mostly Netware 6.5 but there are still a few 6.0 servers in the mix.  As I look at moving to NTP, It seems that NTP only runs on NW 6.5.  
> 
> It looks like I will need two groups, one on Timesync and the other on NTP.  
> 
> I wondered if anyone had this setup and is it working OK.  Also, what outside time sources are you using for your primary's?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> 
> Jack W. Barnes, CNE
> Network Administrator
> CCSU
> jbarnes at ccsuvt.org 
> Office 802-857-7000
> Ext. 1039
> Cell 802-318-0976
> Fax 802-879-8197


-----------
	I think the essence of the problem is Windows machines
attempt a peer connection, source and destination ports both
being 123. This is a very long standing problem with Windows.
Today such connections are frowned upon, rightly so. To avoid
it on NW use filtcfg to reject requests whose UDP ports are 123
for both directions.
	As mentioned earlier in the thread, there are much
better NTP apps for Windows. I happen to use the third party
offering through www.ntp.org on my Win XP boxes and it is fine.
	Joe D.

From joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk  Thu Feb 12 14:55:08 2009
From: joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk (Joe R. Doupnik)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 14:55:08 +0000
Subject: Installing first OES linux server
In-Reply-To: <4993CED70200007500044F38@inet.eastcobbgroup.com>
References: <49931673020000490001F5F2@mail.torahaura.com>
	<4993CED70200007500044F38@inet.eastcobbgroup.com>
Message-ID: <4994384C.9000307@oucs.ox.ac.uk>

James Taylor wrote:
> apparmor doesn't affect the firewall.  Verify you are not blocking ports on the firewall.
> I would suggest turning off the firewall, if it is on, and trying it again.  If it works you need to make sure the appropriate ports on the firewall are open. 
> One way to confirm this would be to see if you can telnet from the server to the active nds server on port 521.
> -jt 
> 
> 
> James Taylor
> The East Cobb Group, Inc.
> 678-697-9420
> james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com
> http://www.eastcobbgroup.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>>> "Alan Rowe" <Alan at torahaura.com> 2/11/2009 09:18 PM >>> 
> I know I am being dense on this.
>  
> The error I keep getting when nds tries to install is configuring NDAP interface error bind to port 521 on 192.168.110.50. I know that the card is working right as I can ping the NDS server. I have disabled app armor on the server so that is not causing the problem.  I am at a completely lost on this one. Anyone know what I am doing wrong.
>  
>  
> Alan Rowe
> Torah Aura Productions
> 888-585-8902
> 323-585-7312
> Fax 323-923-6030 
---------------
	Let me try a guess or two on this problem.
	First, it is useful to know which version of things you employed
and the order of doing the major jobs. Let me explain why. For OES1 both
SLES and the OES components are tied together. For OES2, however, they are
not. Thus for OES2 I install SLES 10 SP1, do minor polishing but NO patches
or updates, and then install the OES2 part as an add-on product. The key
is don't patch in between. For OES2 SP1 (aka SLES 10 SP2 plus OES2 SP1)
we should use the same approach, but so far patching in between has been
less problematic. You can try installing both parts of OES2 SP1 as a unit
in one go, but I recommend splitting them into two operations with cleanups
in the middle and no patching.
	There is a strange number in your message, port 521. If that is not
a typo then we suspect all the LDAP consumers need to be educated to use this
non-standard port number, and it could be the installation process has missed
one or two consumers. As we know, LDAP normally uses ports 389/636.
	If you can give us some additional clues we might be able to help you
more.
	Joe D.

From RGrein at tpchd.org  Thu Feb 12 15:37:26 2009
From: RGrein at tpchd.org (Randy Grein)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 07:37:26 -0800
Subject: Syncing time to Windows servers
In-Reply-To: <4992FBD60200006D0002B018@roi-03.roillc.com>
References: <b433a1e35d0915bc7dfc0494e338daed@ladyburd.com>
	<498F369F020000BB0004B152@mail2.nds8.com>
	<498EEB8B020000010020C78F@BNGW.bay.k12.fl.us>
	<498F412F020000BB0004B19C@mail2.nds8.com> <4990077C.4040800@cam.ac.uk>
	<49904A6C020000BB0004B34E@mail2.nds8.com>
	<49929B4A.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> <4992CD7A.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>
	<4992B388.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com><4992B388.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com>
	<499326B8.3010005@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <4992DEF2.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>
	<4992CFE80200006D0002AF8D@roi-03.roillc.com>
	<4992EC3B.811E.0072.0@tpchd.org>
	<4992FBD60200006D0002B018@roi-03.roillc.com>
Message-ID: <4993D1B6.811E.0072.0@tpchd.org>

Hey, us old dogs need to stick together... (grin)

Randy Grein
Sr. Network Engineer


>>> "Robert Obrinsky" <Robrinsky at roillc.com> 2/11/2009 4:24 PM >>>
Thanks Randy, for teaching an old dog a new trick.

>>> "Randy Grein" <RGrein at tpchd.org> 2/11/2009 3:18 PM >>>
Actually it does. It's just that there are no knobs to twiddle; for anything important in Windows you need to open regedit (and void support agreements). Check this out:

http://www.windowsnetworking.com/articles_tutorials/Configuring-Windows-Time-Service.html 

Randy Grein
Sr. Network Engineer


>>> "Robert Obrinsky" <Robrinsky at roillc.com> 2/11/2009 1:17 PM >>>
I don't think Windows servers support NTP without a third party add-on. Hence my recommendation for Symtime and Joe D.'s recommendation to get the third party add-on from ntp.org.

Robert W. Obrinsky
President
Robert Obrinsky Industries, LLC
1908 SE 45th Avenue
Portland, OR 97215
503.719.4387 (Office)
203.273.7012 (Mobile)


>>> "Scott Etienne" <Setienne at enesco.com> 2/11/2009 12:21 PM >>>
The Windows sysadmin is wary of non-MS software, and I would rather avoid 3rd-party .nlms. Would I have better luck if the NTP server was SLES?

Thank you,

Scott Etienne
Network Engineer
Enesco, LLC
setienne at enesco.com 




>>> On 2/11/2009 at 1:27 PM, in message <499326B8.3010005 at oucs.ox.ac.uk>, jrd <joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
Robert Obrinsky wrote:
> In that case, try downloading symtime from snapfiles.com and configure to use the NW server.
>  
> Robert W. Obrinsky
> President
> Robert Obrinsky Industries, LLC
> 1908 SE 45th Avenue
> Portland, OR 97215
> 503.719.4387 (Office)
> 203.273.7012 (Mobile)
> 
----------
Or best of all, use real NTP on Windows.
http://www.ntp.org/ 
   Downloads
   Third party Implementations and Ports
Get the Win NT/XP/2000/2003 version which works well.
Free, open source, all that good stuff.
Do be wary of client-only NTP code as many do
very old things.
Joe D.

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From RGrein at tpchd.org  Thu Feb 12 15:50:42 2009
From: RGrein at tpchd.org (Randy Grein)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 07:50:42 -0800
Subject: Network time
In-Reply-To: <4993DAA9.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>
References: <49930627.FA88.0022.0@ccsuvt.org>
	<4992E365.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com> <4993DAA9.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>
Message-ID: <4993D4D1.811E.0072.0@tpchd.org>

Sounds like you're trying to set multiple servers to sync time with the Netware server. Windows casually assumes the servers in a domain will pick up time (actually, all NT and above machines) from the domain controller(s); there's a PDC emulation role someone else mentioned that must be the root time source for the domain. Set that machine to pick up time from the Netware server and give in on the rest.

Randy Grein
Sr. Network Engineer


>>> "Scott Etienne" <Setienne at enesco.com> 2/12/2009 6:15 AM >>>
We see error messages on the NetWare 6.5 server regarding authentication requests from the Windows PDC and BDC. But, the Windows servers are in perfect sync with the network time provider, a NetWare 6.5 server. The Windows PDC and BDC are configured to only get their time from our network time provider. So, I am inclined to say that the Windows servers are syncing, and that we are seeing error messages, because they are trying to authenticate, but cannot and are accepting the time sync from this source nonetheless.
 
Thank you,

Scott Etienne
Network Engineer
Enesco, LLC
setienne at enesco.com 

 


>>> On 2/11/2009 at 4:40 PM, in message <4992E365.9F9C.006D.0 at roillc.com>, "Robert Obrinsky" <Robrinsky at roillc.com> wrote:
Actually, you can run xntpd on Netware 6, but it is not officially supported. I had a mixture of NW6 and NW6.5 running NTP a number of years ago, but I've moved off of NW6.

Robert W. Obrinsky
President
Robert Obrinsky Industries, LLC
1908 SE 45th Avenue
Portland, OR 97215
503.719.4387 (Office)
203.273.7012 (Mobile)


>>> "Jack Barnes" <jbarnes at ccsuvt.org> 2/11/2009 2:08 PM >>>
I have a mixture of mostly Netware 6.5 but there are still a few 6.0 servers in the mix.  As I look at moving to NTP, It seems that NTP only runs on NW 6.5.  

It looks like I will need two groups, one on Timesync and the other on NTP.  

I wondered if anyone had this setup and is it working OK.  Also, what outside time sources are you using for your primary's?

Thanks,



Jack W. Barnes, CNE
Network Administrator
CCSU
jbarnes at ccsuvt.org 
Office 802-857-7000
Ext. 1039
Cell 802-318-0976
Fax 802-879-8197




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From toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee  Thu Feb 12 20:13:04 2009
From: toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee (Toomas Aas)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:13:04 +0200
Subject: iPrint auditing doesn't show # of pages
Message-ID: <499482D0.5080508@raad.tartu.ee>

Hello!

In the best bean-counting spirit of the times, I suddenly find myself 
investigating options for figuring out how much users are printing. We are 
using iPrint on NW65SP7. I turned on auditing in iPrint which does almost 
what it says on the box, but doesn't show the number of pages in each 
print job, just number of jobs printed. I guess it makes sense, since we 
can't hope that iPrint can understand all the different printing 
languages. But since it *tries* to show the number of pages, there must be 
cases where it works. What would it take to make it work? My guess is at 
least using the printer-specific NDPS gateway instead of generic Novell 
gateway, but is there more?

Anyway, the general consensus seems to be that Novell gateway is the only 
one that actually works reliably. In conclusion - is Pcounter our only 
option really worth investigating on NW65?

--
Toomas Aas
... What Happens if I..... OOOOPPPSSS, sorry!

From Chris.Nevener at networkingpartner.com  Thu Feb 12 20:19:49 2009
From: Chris.Nevener at networkingpartner.com (Chris Nevener)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:19:49 +0100
Subject: Antw: iPrint auditing doesn't show # of pages
In-Reply-To: <499482D0.5080508@raad.tartu.ee>
References: <499482D0.5080508@raad.tartu.ee>
Message-ID: <4994927F.F9B1.005C.0@networkingpartner.com>

LOL... You need to see the Salford Software printing solution.
 
Although Novell originally tried to represent some measure of accounting with iPrint, these were not realized in any form that could be used to facilitate billing, which is what I think you are looking for.
 
Cheers
Chris

>>> Toomas Aas <toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee> 12.02.2009 21:13 >>>
Hello!

In the best bean-counting spirit of the times, I suddenly find myself 
investigating options for figuring out how much users are printing. We are 
using iPrint on NW65SP7. I turned on auditing in iPrint which does almost 
what it says on the box, but doesn't show the number of pages in each 
print job, just number of jobs printed. I guess it makes sense, since we 
can't hope that iPrint can understand all the different printing 
languages. But since it *tries* to show the number of pages, there must be 
cases where it works. What would it take to make it work? My guess is at 
least using the printer-specific NDPS gateway instead of generic Novell 
gateway, but is there more?

Anyway, the general consensus seems to be that Novell gateway is the only 
one that actually works reliably. In conclusion - is Pcounter our only 
option really worth investigating on NW65?

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From Alan at torahaura.com  Thu Feb 12 20:49:17 2009
From: Alan at torahaura.com (Alan Rowe)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 12:49:17 -0800
Subject: Installing first OES linux server
In-Reply-To: <4994384C.9000307@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
References: <49931673020000490001F5F2@mail.torahaura.com>
	<4993CED70200007500044F38@inet.eastcobbgroup.com>
	<4994384C.9000307@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <49941ACD020000490001F603@mail.torahaura.com>

Sorry for not adding this info the first time.
 
Install OES 2 sp1 as a combined install.
Firewall is turned off and I can ping and telnet to the netware 6.5 sp 7 server running ds 8.8 sp2.
 
This is the compete error message that I am getting when the edirectory install fails on the linux server.
 
NDSconfig to configure and start edirectory failed
 
command: /opt/novell/edirectory/bin/ndsconfig add -c -t 'TAP' -n 'ou=AppTwo.o=tap' -A 'cn=alan.o=tap' -p 192.168.110.36:524 -d /var/opt/edirectory/data/dib -D
 
/var/opt/novell/edirectory -B  192.168.110.50 at 524 -L 389 -i 636 -o8020 -O 8030 -e =config -file
/etc/opt/novell/edirectory/conf/nds.conf return
 
configuring the ndap interface... error bind to port "524" on "192.168.110.50" interface(s) failed
 
cannot assign requested address
 
error:/opt/novell/edirectory/bin/nasconfig return value = 6


>>> On Thursday, February 12, 2009 at 6:55 AM, "Joe R. Doupnik" <joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk> wrote:

James Taylor wrote:
> apparmor doesn't affect the firewall.  Verify you are not blocking ports on the firewall.
> I would suggest turning off the firewall, if it is on, and trying it again.  If it works you need to make sure the appropriate ports on the firewall are open. 
> One way to confirm this would be to see if you can telnet from the server to the active nds server on port 521.
> -jt 
> 
> 
> James Taylor
> The East Cobb Group, Inc.
> 678-697-9420
> james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com
> http://www.eastcobbgroup.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>>>"Alan Rowe" <Alan at torahaura.com>2/11/2009 09:18 PM >>>
> I know I am being dense on this.
>  
> The error I keep getting when nds tries to install is configuring NDAP interface error bind to port 521 on 192.168.110.50. I know that the card is working right as I can ping the NDS server. I have disabled app armor on the server so that is not causing the problem.  I am at a completely lost on this one. Anyone know what I am doing wrong.
>  
>  
> Alan Rowe
> Torah Aura Productions
> 888-585-8902
> 323-585-7312
> Fax 323-923-6030 
---------------
Let me try a guess or two on this problem.
First, it is useful to know which version of things you employed
and the order of doing the major jobs. Let me explain why. For OES1 both
SLES and the OES components are tied together. For OES2, however, they are
not. Thus for OES2 I install SLES 10 SP1, do minor polishing but NO patches
or updates, and then install the OES2 part as an add-on product. The key
is don't patch in between. For OES2 SP1 (aka SLES 10 SP2 plus OES2 SP1)
we should use the same approach, but so far patching in between has been
less problematic. You can try installing both parts of OES2 SP1 as a unit
in one go, but I recommend splitting them into two operations with cleanups
in the middle and no patching.
There is a strange number in your message, port 521. If that is not
a typo then we suspect all the LDAP consumers need to be educated to use this
non-standard port number, and it could be the installation process has missed
one or two consumers. As we know, LDAP normally uses ports 389/636.
If you can give us some additional clues we might be able to help you
more.
Joe D.
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From joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk  Thu Feb 12 21:33:12 2009
From: joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk (jrd)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:33:12 +0000
Subject: Installing first OES linux server
In-Reply-To: <49941ACD020000490001F603@mail.torahaura.com>
References: <49931673020000490001F5F2@mail.torahaura.com>	<4993CED70200007500044F38@inet.eastcobbgroup.com>	<4994384C.9000307@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
	<49941ACD020000490001F603@mail.torahaura.com>
Message-ID: <49949598.4040305@oucs.ox.ac.uk>

Alan Rowe wrote:
> Sorry for not adding this info the first time.
>  
> Install OES 2 sp1 as a combined install.
> Firewall is turned off and I can ping and telnet to the netware 6.5 sp 7 server running ds 8.8 sp2.
>  
> This is the compete error message that I am getting when the edirectory install fails on the linux server.
>  
> NDSconfig to configure and start edirectory failed
>  
> command: /opt/novell/edirectory/bin/ndsconfig add -c -t 'TAP' -n 'ou=AppTwo.o=tap' -A 'cn=alan.o=tap' -p 192.168.110.36:524 -d /var/opt/edirectory/data/dib -D
>  
> /var/opt/novell/edirectory -B  192.168.110.50 at 524 -L 389 -i 636 -o8020 -O 8030 -e =config -file
> /etc/opt/novell/edirectory/conf/nds.conf return
>  
> configuring the ndap interface... error bind to port "524" on "192.168.110.50" interface(s) failed
>  
> cannot assign requested address
>  
> error:/opt/novell/edirectory/bin/nasconfig return value = 6
> 
>
----------
	So, this is an ADD, meaning add this server to a replica ring. If you tried it before, failure
or not, and are trying it again then look for objects already existing for this server and which are
causing collision failure. The server object is the primary one. I would clean out signs of this server
from the tree. While you have it though do an  netstat -nlt to see if there is a listener/service on
the LDAP ports 389/636, just for miscellaneous information's sake. This also means one must not enable
openldap (hint).
	My experience with failed eDir installations of this kind is a reinstallation is necessary to
clean up the mess on this server. Going back and forth through Options 1 and 2 usually does me no good.
Before starting over from scratch, please do clean eDir. This time, I suggest installing in two phases:
SLES 10 SP2, get ntp working and such, reboot, then do the OES2 SP1 add-on product part. Delay adding
ConsoleOne, if you plan using it, until OES has had a chance to install its version of RPMs.
	One last check. Ensure the server's IP address is not used elsewhere, and as you are using
RFC1918 addressing then check on the NAT settings involved. Firewall turned off is indeed the right
thing to do at this point. Your successful ping test suggests this is not a problem, but we check
anyway.
	Oh yes, our last+1 perennial check on time synchronization. This is a primary reason to
split installation into two phases, allowing one to get NTP running properly to external sources.
	Joe D.

From toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee  Fri Feb 13 06:44:50 2009
From: toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee (Toomas Aas)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 08:44:50 +0200
Subject: Antw: iPrint auditing doesn't show # of pages
In-Reply-To: <4994927F.F9B1.005C.0@networkingpartner.com>
References: <499482D0.5080508@raad.tartu.ee>
	<4994927F.F9B1.005C.0@networkingpartner.com>
Message-ID: <499516E2.2050201@raad.tartu.ee>

Chris Nevener wrote:

> LOL... You need to see the Salford Software printing solution.

Actually, coming into office this morning, I discover that iPrint auditing 
does show the # of pages printed for majority of printers, where it can 
detect the PDL.

-- 
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|arvutiv?rgu peaspetsialist | head specialist on computer networks|
|Tartu Linnakantselei       | Tartu City Office                   |
skype: toomas_aas ----------------------------------- +372 736 1274


From smf34 at cam.ac.uk  Fri Feb 13 10:20:11 2009
From: smf34 at cam.ac.uk (Simon Flood)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:20:11 +0000
Subject: Antw: iPrint auditing doesn't show # of pages
In-Reply-To: <4994927F.F9B1.005C.0@networkingpartner.com>
References: <499482D0.5080508@raad.tartu.ee>
	<4994927F.F9B1.005C.0@networkingpartner.com>
Message-ID: <4995495B.5070005@cam.ac.uk>

On 12/02/2009 20:19, Chris Nevener wrote:

> LOL... You need to see the Salford Software printing solution.

As well as Salford Software (GPAS) there is also a NetWare solution from 
Equitrac though that requires a Windows server at the core.

> Although Novell originally tried to represent some measure of accounting with iPrint, these were not realized in any form that could be used to facilitate billing, which is what I think you are looking for.

With OES2 SP1 on Linux Novell introduced iPrint accounting APIs which 
third party solutions can then use.  Currently PaperCut is the only 
solution available for OES2 SP1 on Linux with Equitrac in development.

Hope this helps,
Simon

From dtran at ssc.ucla.edu  Fri Feb 13 15:40:13 2009
From: dtran at ssc.ucla.edu (Daniel Tran)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 07:40:13 -0800
Subject: Netware 6 server recovery question/advise needed.
In-Reply-To: <4992EC3B.811E.0072.0@tpchd.org>
References: <b433a1e35d0915bc7dfc0494e338daed@ladyburd.com><498F369F020000BB0004B152@mail2.nds8.com><498EEB8B020000010020C78F@BNGW.bay.k12.fl.us><498F412F020000BB0004B19C@mail2.nds8.com>
	<4990077C.4040800@cam.ac.uk><49904A6C020000BB0004B34E@mail2.nds8.com><49929B4A.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>
	<4992CD7A.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com><4992B388.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com><4992B388.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com><499326B8.3010005@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
	<4992DEF2.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com><4992CFE80200006D0002AF8D@roi-03.roillc.com>
	<4992EC3B.811E.0072.0@tpchd.org>
Message-ID: <D2A4CE9969F00C4DB94310BD8B1E203201B6278B@SSCBE.SS.ucla.edu>

Hi,
I have an old NW 6 server.
The system has 2 hard disks for booting up to DOS (c: and d: )
DOS partitions are identical.
SYS is also on those disks and they are mirrored.

Few days ago, the primary disk failed completely.
I was able to boot of to the secondary and bring up the system normally
and getting  "The mirrored objects on this system are not all
synchronized" message as expected.

Now I have a replacement disk.
I've created DOS partition and xcopy everything to it.

Question:

- I'm to put the new one in the system.
- I'm going to continue to boot up with the secondary drive
- How do I go about re-mirroring the SYS partition? Will it be done
automatically or do I have to do via NRM or ConsoleOne?.
This is the part I am unsure about. 

- If it will not be re-mirror automatically, do I have to create a new
pool/new partition/new volumes on the replacement drive and start a
re-mirror process manually.

Thanks for your help

Daniel

From rivars at mctweb.net  Fri Feb 13 15:43:12 2009
From: rivars at mctweb.net (Rick Ivars)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 09:43:12 -0600
Subject: Netware 6 server recovery question/advise needed.
In-Reply-To: <D2A4CE9969F00C4DB94310BD8B1E203201B6278B@SSCBE.SS.ucla.edu>
References: <b433a1e35d0915bc7dfc0494e338daed@ladyburd.com><498F369F020000BB0004B152@mail2.nds8.com><498EEB8B020000010020C78F@BNGW.bay.k12.fl.us><498F412F020000BB0004B19C@mail2.nds8.com>
	<4990077C.4040800@cam.ac.uk><49904A6C020000BB0004B34E@mail2.nds8.com><49929B4A.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>
	<4992CD7A.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com><4992B388.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com><4992B388.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com><499326B8.3010005@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
	<4992DEF2.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com><4992CFE80200006D0002AF8D@roi-03.roillc.com>
	<4992EC3B.811E.0072.0@tpchd.org>
	<D2A4CE9969F00C4DB94310BD8B1E203201B6278B@SSCBE.SS.ucla.edu>
Message-ID: <499540B00200003700016EB1@mct2.mctweb.net>

are you using hardware raid to mirror these drives?
 
Rick Ivars
Senior Network Engineer
Master CNE, MCP, GCE, RCE, Project+
Datamax/Micro
rivars at mctweb.net
http://www.mctweb.net
501-603-3000 

>>> "Daniel Tran" <dtran at ssc.ucla.edu> 2/13/2009 9:40 AM >>>
Hi,
I have an old NW 6 server.
The system has 2 hard disks for booting up to DOS (c: and d: )
DOS partitions are identical.
SYS is also on those disks and they are mirrored.

Few days ago, the primary disk failed completely.
I was able to boot of to the secondary and bring up the system normally
and getting  "The mirrored objects on this system are not all
synchronized" message as expected.

Now I have a replacement disk.
I've created DOS partition and xcopy everything to it.

Question:

- I'm to put the new one in the system.
- I'm going to continue to boot up with the secondary drive
- How do I go about re-mirroring the SYS partition? Will it be done
automatically or do I have to do via NRM or ConsoleOne?.
This is the part I am unsure about. 

- If it will not be re-mirror automatically, do I have to create a new
pool/new partition/new volumes on the replacement drive and start a
re-mirror process manually.

Thanks for your help

Daniel
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From dtran at ssc.ucla.edu  Fri Feb 13 15:49:54 2009
From: dtran at ssc.ucla.edu (Daniel Tran)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 07:49:54 -0800
Subject: Netware 6 server recovery question/advise needed.
In-Reply-To: <499540B00200003700016EB1@mct2.mctweb.net>
References: <b433a1e35d0915bc7dfc0494e338daed@ladyburd.com><498F369F020000BB0004B152@mail2.nds8.com><498EEB8B020000010020C78F@BNGW.bay.k12.fl.us><498F412F020000BB0004B19C@mail2.nds8.com><4990077C.4040800@cam.ac.uk><49904A6C020000BB0004B34E@mail2.nds8.com><49929B4A.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com><4992CD7A.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com><4992B388.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com><4992B388.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com><499326B8.3010005@oucs.ox.ac.uk><4992DEF2.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com><4992CFE80200006D0002AF8D@roi-03.roillc.com><4992EC3B.811E.0072.0@tpchd.org><D2A4CE9969F00C4DB94310BD8B1E203201B6278B@SSCBE.SS.ucla.edu>
	<499540B00200003700016EB1@mct2.mctweb.net>
Message-ID: <D2A4CE9969F00C4DB94310BD8B1E203201B6278C@SSCBE.SS.ucla.edu>

The server (Proliant) has dual channel Adaptec Ultra160 SCSI.
Each drive on each channel.
No hardware raid on these boot drives.
I'm just using netware mirroring feature.
BTW, SYS is an NSS not traditional

Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Rick Ivars
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 7:43 AM
To: Novell LAN Interest Group
Subject: Re: Netware 6 server recovery question/advise needed.

are you using hardware raid to mirror these drives?
 
Rick Ivars
Senior Network Engineer
Master CNE, MCP, GCE, RCE, Project+
Datamax/Micro
rivars at mctweb.net
http://www.mctweb.net
501-603-3000 

>>> "Daniel Tran" <dtran at ssc.ucla.edu> 2/13/2009 9:40 AM >>>
Hi,
I have an old NW 6 server.
The system has 2 hard disks for booting up to DOS (c: and d: ) DOS
partitions are identical.
SYS is also on those disks and they are mirrored.

Few days ago, the primary disk failed completely.
I was able to boot of to the secondary and bring up the system normally
and getting  "The mirrored objects on this system are not all
synchronized" message as expected.

Now I have a replacement disk.
I've created DOS partition and xcopy everything to it.

Question:

- I'm to put the new one in the system.
- I'm going to continue to boot up with the secondary drive
- How do I go about re-mirroring the SYS partition? Will it be done
automatically or do I have to do via NRM or ConsoleOne?.
This is the part I am unsure about. 

- If it will not be re-mirror automatically, do I have to create a new
pool/new partition/new volumes on the replacement drive and start a
re-mirror process manually.

Thanks for your help

Daniel
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From rivars at mctweb.net  Fri Feb 13 16:02:37 2009
From: rivars at mctweb.net (Rick Ivars)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:02:37 -0600
Subject: Netware 6 server recovery question/advise needed.
In-Reply-To: <D2A4CE9969F00C4DB94310BD8B1E203201B6278C@SSCBE.SS.ucla.edu>
References: <b433a1e35d0915bc7dfc0494e338daed@ladyburd.com><498F369F020000BB0004B152@mail2.nds8.com><498EEB8B020000010020C78F@BNGW.bay.k12.fl.us><498F412F020000BB0004B19C@mail2.nds8.com><4990077C.4040800@cam.ac.uk><49904A6C020000BB0004B34E@mail2.nds8.com><49929B4A.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com><4992CD7A.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com><4992B388.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com><4992B388.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com><499326B8.3010005@oucs.ox.ac.uk><4992DEF2.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com><4992CFE80200006D0002AF8D@roi-03.roillc.com><4992EC3B.811E.0072.0@tpchd.org><D2A4CE9969F00C4DB94310BD8B1E203201B6278B@SSCBE.SS.ucla.edu>
	<499540B00200003700016EB1@mct2.mctweb.net>
	<D2A4CE9969F00C4DB94310BD8B1E203201B6278C@SSCBE.SS.ucla.edu>
Message-ID: <4995453D0200003700016EB7@mct2.mctweb.net>

look at this TID
http://www.novell.com/support/php/search.do?cmd=displayKC&docType=kc&externalId=10024156&sliceId=&docTypeID=DT_TID_1_1&dialogID=25096808&stateId=1%200%2025090964
 
Rick Ivars
Senior Network Engineer
Master CNE, MCP, GCE, RCE, Project+
Datamax/Micro
rivars at mctweb.net
http://www.mctweb.net
501-603-3000 

>>> "Daniel Tran" <dtran at ssc.ucla.edu> 2/13/2009 9:49 AM >>>
The server (Proliant) has dual channel Adaptec Ultra160 SCSI.
Each drive on each channel.
No hardware raid on these boot drives.
I'm just using netware mirroring feature.
BTW, SYS is an NSS not traditional

Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Rick Ivars
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 7:43 AM
To: Novell LAN Interest Group
Subject: Re: Netware 6 server recovery question/advise needed.

are you using hardware raid to mirror these drives?

Rick Ivars
Senior Network Engineer
Master CNE, MCP, GCE, RCE, Project+
Datamax/Micro
rivars at mctweb.net
http://www.mctweb.net
501-603-3000 

>>> "Daniel Tran" <dtran at ssc.ucla.edu> 2/13/2009 9:40 AM >>>
Hi,
I have an old NW 6 server.
The system has 2 hard disks for booting up to DOS (c: and d: ) DOS
partitions are identical.
SYS is also on those disks and they are mirrored.

Few days ago, the primary disk failed completely.
I was able to boot of to the secondary and bring up the system normally
and getting  "The mirrored objects on this system are not all
synchronized" message as expected.

Now I have a replacement disk.
I've created DOS partition and xcopy everything to it.

Question:

- I'm to put the new one in the system.
- I'm going to continue to boot up with the secondary drive
- How do I go about re-mirroring the SYS partition? Will it be done
automatically or do I have to do via NRM or ConsoleOne?.
This is the part I am unsure about. 

- If it will not be re-mirror automatically, do I have to create a new
pool/new partition/new volumes on the replacement drive and start a
re-mirror process manually.

Thanks for your help

Daniel
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From jdustin at usm.maine.edu  Fri Feb 13 16:18:08 2009
From: jdustin at usm.maine.edu (Jon Dustin)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 11:18:08 -0500
Subject: iPrint auditing doesn't show # of pages
Message-ID: <499556F00200008D00015E85@uct5.uct.usm.maine.edu>

>>> On 2/12/2009 at 3:13 PM, in message <4995173E.FE7 : 233 : 65511>, Toomas Aas
<toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee> wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> In the best bean-counting spirit of the times, I suddenly find myself 
> investigating options for figuring out how much users are printing. We are 
> using iPrint on NW65SP7. I turned on auditing in iPrint which does almost 
> what it says on the box, but doesn't show the number of pages in each 
> print job, just number of jobs printed. I guess it makes sense, since we 
> can't hope that iPrint can understand all the different printing 
> languages. But since it *tries* to show the number of pages, there must be 
> cases where it works. What would it take to make it work? My guess is at 
> least using the printer-specific NDPS gateway instead of generic Novell 
> gateway, but is there more?
> 

Auditing in NetWare65 (and OES on Linux) does a *very good* job at counting pages. We use the native auditing capabilities quite extensively for a home-grown billing program in our computer labs, and NDPS auditing works very well.

We have Postscript and PCL printers working with NDPS auditing. So far plotters are our only problem (how does one define a page?).

The most recent versions of NDPSM will allow you to "rotate" the audit log automatically. You should then be able to parse the log however you like (just a CSV file).

Good luck!

-- 

 
Jon Dustin - Network Specialist
University of Southern Maine
Portland, ME  207-780-4152



From dtran at ssc.ucla.edu  Fri Feb 13 16:50:26 2009
From: dtran at ssc.ucla.edu (Daniel Tran)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 08:50:26 -0800
Subject: Netware 6 server recovery question/advise needed.
In-Reply-To: <4995453D0200003700016EB7@mct2.mctweb.net>
References: <b433a1e35d0915bc7dfc0494e338daed@ladyburd.com><498F369F020000BB0004B152@mail2.nds8.com><498EEB8B020000010020C78F@BNGW.bay.k12.fl.us><498F412F020000BB0004B19C@mail2.nds8.com><4990077C.4040800@cam.ac.uk><49904A6C020000BB0004B34E@mail2.nds8.com><49929B4A.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com><4992CD7A.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com><4992B388.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com><4992B388.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com><499326B8.3010005@oucs.ox.ac.uk><4992DEF2.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com><4992CFE80200006D0002AF8D@roi-03.roillc.com><4992EC3B.811E.0072.0@tpchd.org><D2A4CE9969F00C4DB94310BD8B1E203201B6278B@SSCBE.SS.ucla.edu><499540B00200003700016EB1@mct2.mctweb.net><D2A4CE9969F00C4DB94310BD8B1E203201B6278C@SSCBE.SS.ucla.edu>
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Hum.....
I think that article applies to earlier version of netware (pre NSS day)
but I can be wrong here.
Load install has been replaced by nwconfig.
Nwconfig --> nss disk options has been replaced by nssmu / console1 /
NRM

NRM shows me something I don't understand saying mirror 100%
See pics here:
(http://s558.photobucket.com/albums/ss21/dtranucla/netware/)

Console1 - I can't figure it out how

Nssmu - is probably my best hope to do this right.
I'm thinking these steps:

- load nssmu
- select devices (go to new device)
- initialize it
- select raid devices
- select sys partition
- hit f3 to open the mirror
- select the new device.

Any comments?.

Ps: I'll probably set a quick test server to do this because I got 1
shot of making it right.
Don't want to mirror the blank to sys.

Thanks
Daniel


-----Original Message-----
From: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Rick Ivars
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 8:03 AM
To: Novell LAN Interest Group
Subject: RE: Netware 6 server recovery question/advise needed.

look at this TID
http://www.novell.com/support/php/search.do?cmd=displayKC&docType=kc&ext
ernalId=10024156&sliceId=&docTypeID=DT_TID_1_1&dialogID=25096808&stateId
=1%200%2025090964
 
Rick Ivars
Senior Network Engineer
Master CNE, MCP, GCE, RCE, Project+
Datamax/Micro
rivars at mctweb.net
http://www.mctweb.net
501-603-3000 

>>> "Daniel Tran" <dtran at ssc.ucla.edu> 2/13/2009 9:49 AM >>>
The server (Proliant) has dual channel Adaptec Ultra160 SCSI.
Each drive on each channel.
No hardware raid on these boot drives.
I'm just using netware mirroring feature.
BTW, SYS is an NSS not traditional

Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Rick Ivars
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 7:43 AM
To: Novell LAN Interest Group
Subject: Re: Netware 6 server recovery question/advise needed.

are you using hardware raid to mirror these drives?

Rick Ivars
Senior Network Engineer
Master CNE, MCP, GCE, RCE, Project+
Datamax/Micro
rivars at mctweb.net
http://www.mctweb.net
501-603-3000 

>>> "Daniel Tran" <dtran at ssc.ucla.edu> 2/13/2009 9:40 AM >>>
Hi,
I have an old NW 6 server.
The system has 2 hard disks for booting up to DOS (c: and d: ) DOS
partitions are identical.
SYS is also on those disks and they are mirrored.

Few days ago, the primary disk failed completely.
I was able to boot of to the secondary and bring up the system normally
and getting  "The mirrored objects on this system are not all
synchronized" message as expected.

Now I have a replacement disk.
I've created DOS partition and xcopy everything to it.

Question:

- I'm to put the new one in the system.
- I'm going to continue to boot up with the secondary drive
- How do I go about re-mirroring the SYS partition? Will it be done
automatically or do I have to do via NRM or ConsoleOne?.
This is the part I am unsure about. 

- If it will not be re-mirror automatically, do I have to create a new
pool/new partition/new volumes on the replacement drive and start a
re-mirror process manually.

Thanks for your help

Daniel
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From rivars at mctweb.net  Fri Feb 13 17:11:07 2009
From: rivars at mctweb.net (Rick Ivars)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 11:11:07 -0600
Subject: Netware 6 server recovery question/advise needed.
In-Reply-To: <D2A4CE9969F00C4DB94310BD8B1E203201B62791@SSCBE.SS.ucla.edu>
References: <b433a1e35d0915bc7dfc0494e338daed@ladyburd.com><498F369F020000BB0004B152@mail2.nds8.com><498EEB8B020000010020C78F@BNGW.bay.k12.fl.us><498F412F020000BB0004B19C@mail2.nds8.com><4990077C.4040800@cam.ac.uk><49904A6C020000BB0004B34E@mail2.nds8.com><49929B4A.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com><4992CD7A.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com><4992B388.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com><4992B388.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com><499326B8.3010005@oucs.ox.ac.uk><4992DEF2.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com><4992CFE80200006D0002AF8D@roi-03.roillc.com><4992EC3B.811E.0072.0@tpchd.org><D2A4CE9969F00C4DB94310BD8B1E203201B6278B@SSCBE.SS.ucla.edu><499540B00200003700016EB1@mct2.mctweb.net><D2A4CE9969F00C4DB94310BD8B1E203201B6278C@SSCBE.SS.ucla.edu>
	<4995453D0200003700016EB7@mct2.mctweb.net>
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if you remove the new drive then look at mirror status...you should be able to break the original mirror..once it has been severed..you should then be able to put the new drive in and re-establish the mirroring.
 
Rick Ivars
Senior Network Engineer
Master CNE, MCP, GCE, RCE, Project+
Datamax/Micro
rivars at mctweb.net
http://www.mctweb.net
501-603-3000 

>>> "Daniel Tran" <dtran at ssc.ucla.edu> 2/13/2009 10:50 AM >>>
Hum.....
I think that article applies to earlier version of netware (pre NSS day)
but I can be wrong here.
Load install has been replaced by nwconfig.
Nwconfig --> nss disk options has been replaced by nssmu / console1 /
NRM

NRM shows me something I don't understand saying mirror 100%
See pics here:
(http://s558.photobucket.com/albums/ss21/dtranucla/netware/)

Console1 - I can't figure it out how

Nssmu - is probably my best hope to do this right.
I'm thinking these steps:

- load nssmu
- select devices (go to new device)
- initialize it
- select raid devices
- select sys partition
- hit f3 to open the mirror
- select the new device.

Any comments?.

Ps: I'll probably set a quick test server to do this because I got 1
shot of making it right.
Don't want to mirror the blank to sys.

Thanks
Daniel


-----Original Message-----
From: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Rick Ivars
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 8:03 AM
To: Novell LAN Interest Group
Subject: RE: Netware 6 server recovery question/advise needed.

look at this TID
http://www.novell.com/support/php/search.do?cmd=displayKC&docType=kc&ext
ernalId=10024156&sliceId=&docTypeID=DT_TID_1_1&dialogID=25096808&stateId
=1%200%2025090964

Rick Ivars
Senior Network Engineer
Master CNE, MCP, GCE, RCE, Project+
Datamax/Micro
rivars at mctweb.net
http://www.mctweb.net
501-603-3000 

>>> "Daniel Tran" <dtran at ssc.ucla.edu> 2/13/2009 9:49 AM >>>
The server (Proliant) has dual channel Adaptec Ultra160 SCSI.
Each drive on each channel.
No hardware raid on these boot drives.
I'm just using netware mirroring feature.
BTW, SYS is an NSS not traditional

Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Rick Ivars
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 7:43 AM
To: Novell LAN Interest Group
Subject: Re: Netware 6 server recovery question/advise needed.

are you using hardware raid to mirror these drives?

Rick Ivars
Senior Network Engineer
Master CNE, MCP, GCE, RCE, Project+
Datamax/Micro
rivars at mctweb.net
http://www.mctweb.net
501-603-3000 

>>> "Daniel Tran" <dtran at ssc.ucla.edu> 2/13/2009 9:40 AM >>>
Hi,
I have an old NW 6 server.
The system has 2 hard disks for booting up to DOS (c: and d: ) DOS
partitions are identical.
SYS is also on those disks and they are mirrored.

Few days ago, the primary disk failed completely.
I was able to boot of to the secondary and bring up the system normally
and getting  "The mirrored objects on this system are not all
synchronized" message as expected.

Now I have a replacement disk.
I've created DOS partition and xcopy everything to it.

Question:

- I'm to put the new one in the system.
- I'm going to continue to boot up with the secondary drive
- How do I go about re-mirroring the SYS partition? Will it be done
automatically or do I have to do via NRM or ConsoleOne?.
This is the part I am unsure about. 

- If it will not be re-mirror automatically, do I have to create a new
pool/new partition/new volumes on the replacement drive and start a
re-mirror process manually.

Thanks for your help

Daniel
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From RGrein at tpchd.org  Fri Feb 13 17:28:23 2009
From: RGrein at tpchd.org (Randy Grein)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 09:28:23 -0800
Subject: Netware 6 server recovery question/advise needed.
In-Reply-To: <4995554B0200003700016ECB@mct2.mctweb.net>
References: <b433a1e35d0915bc7dfc0494e338daed@ladyburd.com><498F369F020000BB0004B152@mail2.nds8.com><498EEB8B020000010020C78F@BNGW.bay.k12.fl.us><498F412F020000BB0004B19C@mail2.nds8.com><4990077C.4040800@cam.ac.uk><49904A6C020000BB0004B34E@mail2.nds8.com><49929B4A.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com><4992CD7A.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com><4992B388.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com><4992B388.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com><499326B8.3010005@oucs.ox.ac.uk><4992DEF2.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com><4992CFE80200006D0002AF8D@roi-03.roillc.com><4992EC3B.811E.0072.0@tpchd.org><D2A4CE9969F00C4DB94310BD8B1E203201B6278B@SSCBE.SS.ucla.edu><499540B00200003700016EB1@mct2.mctweb.net><D2A4CE9969F00C4DB94310BD8B1E203201B6278C@SSCBE.SS.ucla.edu>
	<4995453D0200003700016EB7@mct2.mctweb.net>
	<D2A4CE9969F00C4DB94310BD8B1E203201B62791@SSCBE.SS.ucla.edu>
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Message-ID: <49953D37.811E.0072.0@tpchd.org>

Correct. And take notes on the device number before the actual mirror process. I've done quite a few of these but measure twice, cut once!

Randy Grein
Sr. Network Engineer


>>> "Rick Ivars" <rivars at mctweb.net> 2/13/2009 9:11 AM >>>
if you remove the new drive then look at mirror status...you should be able to break the original mirror..once it has been severed..you should then be able to put the new drive in and re-establish the mirroring.
 
Rick Ivars
Senior Network Engineer
Master CNE, MCP, GCE, RCE, Project+
Datamax/Micro
rivars at mctweb.net 
http://www.mctweb.net 
501-603-3000 

>>> "Daniel Tran" <dtran at ssc.ucla.edu> 2/13/2009 10:50 AM >>>
Hum.....
I think that article applies to earlier version of netware (pre NSS day)
but I can be wrong here.
Load install has been replaced by nwconfig.
Nwconfig --> nss disk options has been replaced by nssmu / console1 /
NRM

NRM shows me something I don't understand saying mirror 100%
See pics here:
(http://s558.photobucket.com/albums/ss21/dtranucla/netware/)

Console1 - I can't figure it out how

Nssmu - is probably my best hope to do this right.
I'm thinking these steps:

- load nssmu
- select devices (go to new device)
- initialize it
- select raid devices
- select sys partition
- hit f3 to open the mirror
- select the new device.

Any comments?.

Ps: I'll probably set a quick test server to do this because I got 1
shot of making it right.
Don't want to mirror the blank to sys.

Thanks
Daniel


-----Original Message-----
From: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk 
[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Rick Ivars
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 8:03 AM
To: Novell LAN Interest Group
Subject: RE: Netware 6 server recovery question/advise needed.

look at this TID
http://www.novell.com/support/php/search.do?cmd=displayKC&docType=kc&ext 
ernalId=10024156&sliceId=&docTypeID=DT_TID_1_1&dialogID=25096808&stateId
=1%200%2025090964

Rick Ivars
Senior Network Engineer
Master CNE, MCP, GCE, RCE, Project+
Datamax/Micro
rivars at mctweb.net 
http://www.mctweb.net 
501-603-3000 

>>> "Daniel Tran" <dtran at ssc.ucla.edu> 2/13/2009 9:49 AM >>>
The server (Proliant) has dual channel Adaptec Ultra160 SCSI.
Each drive on each channel.
No hardware raid on these boot drives.
I'm just using netware mirroring feature.
BTW, SYS is an NSS not traditional

Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk 
[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Rick Ivars
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 7:43 AM
To: Novell LAN Interest Group
Subject: Re: Netware 6 server recovery question/advise needed.

are you using hardware raid to mirror these drives?

Rick Ivars
Senior Network Engineer
Master CNE, MCP, GCE, RCE, Project+
Datamax/Micro
rivars at mctweb.net 
http://www.mctweb.net 
501-603-3000 

>>> "Daniel Tran" <dtran at ssc.ucla.edu> 2/13/2009 9:40 AM >>>
Hi,
I have an old NW 6 server.
The system has 2 hard disks for booting up to DOS (c: and d: ) DOS
partitions are identical.
SYS is also on those disks and they are mirrored.

Few days ago, the primary disk failed completely.
I was able to boot of to the secondary and bring up the system normally
and getting  "The mirrored objects on this system are not all
synchronized" message as expected.

Now I have a replacement disk.
I've created DOS partition and xcopy everything to it.

Question:

- I'm to put the new one in the system.
- I'm going to continue to boot up with the secondary drive
- How do I go about re-mirroring the SYS partition? Will it be done
automatically or do I have to do via NRM or ConsoleOne?.
This is the part I am unsure about. 

- If it will not be re-mirror automatically, do I have to create a new
pool/new partition/new volumes on the replacement drive and start a
re-mirror process manually.

Thanks for your help

Daniel
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From geoffreycarman at gmail.com  Fri Feb 13 17:48:24 2009
From: geoffreycarman at gmail.com (Geoffrey Carman)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 12:48:24 -0500
Subject: Netware 6 server recovery question/advise needed.
In-Reply-To: <49953D37.811E.0072.0@tpchd.org>
References: <b433a1e35d0915bc7dfc0494e338daed@ladyburd.com>
	<4992CFE80200006D0002AF8D@roi-03.roillc.com>
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	<D2A4CE9969F00C4DB94310BD8B1E203201B6278B@SSCBE.SS.ucla.edu>
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	<4995453D0200003700016EB7@mct2.mctweb.net>
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	<49953D37.811E.0072.0@tpchd.org>
Message-ID: <993788ac0902130948lc1ab1f6sac0aedae50689129@mail.gmail.com>

Measure with a micrometer, cut with a chain saw!

On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Randy Grein <RGrein at tpchd.org> wrote:
> Correct. And take notes on the device number before the actual mirror process. I've done quite a few of these but measure twice, cut once!
>
> Randy Grein
> Sr. Network Engineer
>
>
>>>> "Rick Ivars" <rivars at mctweb.net> 2/13/2009 9:11 AM >>>
> if you remove the new drive then look at mirror status...you should be able to break the original mirror..once it has been severed..you should then be able to put the new drive in and re-establish the mirroring.
>
> Rick Ivars
> Senior Network Engineer
> Master CNE, MCP, GCE, RCE, Project+
> Datamax/Micro
> rivars at mctweb.net
> http://www.mctweb.net
> 501-603-3000
>
>>>> "Daniel Tran" <dtran at ssc.ucla.edu> 2/13/2009 10:50 AM >>>
> Hum.....
> I think that article applies to earlier version of netware (pre NSS day)
> but I can be wrong here.
> Load install has been replaced by nwconfig.
> Nwconfig --> nss disk options has been replaced by nssmu / console1 /
> NRM
>
> NRM shows me something I don't understand saying mirror 100%
> See pics here:
> (http://s558.photobucket.com/albums/ss21/dtranucla/netware/)
>
> Console1 - I can't figure it out how
>
> Nssmu - is probably my best hope to do this right.
> I'm thinking these steps:
>
> - load nssmu
> - select devices (go to new device)
> - initialize it
> - select raid devices
> - select sys partition
> - hit f3 to open the mirror
> - select the new device.
>
> Any comments?.
>
> Ps: I'll probably set a quick test server to do this because I got 1
> shot of making it right.
> Don't want to mirror the blank to sys.
>
> Thanks
> Daniel
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
> [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Rick Ivars
> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 8:03 AM
> To: Novell LAN Interest Group
> Subject: RE: Netware 6 server recovery question/advise needed.
>
> look at this TID
> http://www.novell.com/support/php/search.do?cmd=displayKC&docType=kc&ext
> ernalId=10024156&sliceId=&docTypeID=DT_TID_1_1&dialogID=25096808&stateId
> =1%200%2025090964
>
> Rick Ivars
> Senior Network Engineer
> Master CNE, MCP, GCE, RCE, Project+
> Datamax/Micro
> rivars at mctweb.net
> http://www.mctweb.net
> 501-603-3000
>
>>>> "Daniel Tran" <dtran at ssc.ucla.edu> 2/13/2009 9:49 AM >>>
> The server (Proliant) has dual channel Adaptec Ultra160 SCSI.
> Each drive on each channel.
> No hardware raid on these boot drives.
> I'm just using netware mirroring feature.
> BTW, SYS is an NSS not traditional
>
> Thanks
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
> [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Rick Ivars
> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 7:43 AM
> To: Novell LAN Interest Group
> Subject: Re: Netware 6 server recovery question/advise needed.
>
> are you using hardware raid to mirror these drives?
>
> Rick Ivars
> Senior Network Engineer
> Master CNE, MCP, GCE, RCE, Project+
> Datamax/Micro
> rivars at mctweb.net
> http://www.mctweb.net
> 501-603-3000
>
>>>> "Daniel Tran" <dtran at ssc.ucla.edu> 2/13/2009 9:40 AM >>>
> Hi,
> I have an old NW 6 server.
> The system has 2 hard disks for booting up to DOS (c: and d: ) DOS
> partitions are identical.
> SYS is also on those disks and they are mirrored.
>
> Few days ago, the primary disk failed completely.
> I was able to boot of to the secondary and bring up the system normally
> and getting  "The mirrored objects on this system are not all
> synchronized" message as expected.
>
> Now I have a replacement disk.
> I've created DOS partition and xcopy everything to it.
>
> Question:
>
> - I'm to put the new one in the system.
> - I'm going to continue to boot up with the secondary drive
> - How do I go about re-mirroring the SYS partition? Will it be done
> automatically or do I have to do via NRM or ConsoleOne?.
> This is the part I am unsure about.
>
> - If it will not be re-mirror automatically, do I have to create a new
> pool/new partition/new volumes on the replacement drive and start a
> re-mirror process manually.
>
> Thanks for your help
>
> Daniel
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From dtran at ssc.ucla.edu  Fri Feb 13 17:51:43 2009
From: dtran at ssc.ucla.edu (Daniel Tran)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 09:51:43 -0800
Subject: Netware 6 server recovery question/advise needed.
In-Reply-To: <49953D37.811E.0072.0@tpchd.org>
References: <b433a1e35d0915bc7dfc0494e338daed@ladyburd.com><498F369F020000BB0004B152@mail2.nds8.com><498EEB8B020000010020C78F@BNGW.bay.k12.fl.us><498F412F020000BB0004B19C@mail2.nds8.com><4990077C.4040800@cam.ac.uk><49904A6C020000BB0004B34E@mail2.nds8.com><49929B4A.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com><4992CD7A.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com><4992B388.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com><4992B388.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com><499326B8.3010005@oucs.ox.ac.uk><4992DEF2.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com><4992CFE80200006D0002AF8D@roi-03.roillc.com><4992EC3B.811E.0072.0@tpchd.org><D2A4CE9969F00C4DB94310BD8B1E203201B6278B@SSCBE.SS.ucla.edu><499540B00200003700016EB1@mct2.mctweb.net><D2A4CE9969F00C4DB94310BD8B1E203201B6278C@SSCBE.SS.ucla.edu><4995453D0200003700016EB7@mct2.mctweb.net><D2A4CE9969F00C4DB94310BD8B1E203201B62791@SSCBE.SS.ucla.edu><4995554B0200003700016ECB@mct2.mctweb.net>
	<49953D37.811E.0072.0@tpchd.org>
Message-ID: <D2A4CE9969F00C4DB94310BD8B1E203201B6279D@SSCBE.SS.ucla.edu>

@Rick,
I take it that you meant "if you remove the old drive then look at
mirror status ...break original mirror..."

The problem is I can't find that mirror status anywhere (except for that
console message scrolling).
NRM show me that 100% mirroring with 1 drive in the system.

@Randy,
Thanks for the tip.
I Just need to figure out how to do this right.
It has been a long time so be patience with me.

Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Randy Grein
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 9:28 AM
To: Novell LAN Interest Group
Subject: RE: Netware 6 server recovery question/advise needed.

Correct. And take notes on the device number before the actual mirror
process. I've done quite a few of these but measure twice, cut once!

Randy Grein
Sr. Network Engineer


>>> "Rick Ivars" <rivars at mctweb.net> 2/13/2009 9:11 AM >>>
if you remove the new drive then look at mirror status...you should be
able to break the original mirror..once it has been severed..you should
then be able to put the new drive in and re-establish the mirroring.
 
Rick Ivars
Senior Network Engineer
Master CNE, MCP, GCE, RCE, Project+
Datamax/Micro
rivars at mctweb.net 
http://www.mctweb.net 
501-603-3000 

>>> "Daniel Tran" <dtran at ssc.ucla.edu> 2/13/2009 10:50 AM >>>
Hum.....
I think that article applies to earlier version of netware (pre NSS day)
but I can be wrong here.
Load install has been replaced by nwconfig.
Nwconfig --> nss disk options has been replaced by nssmu / console1 /
NRM

NRM shows me something I don't understand saying mirror 100%
See pics here:
(http://s558.photobucket.com/albums/ss21/dtranucla/netware/)

Console1 - I can't figure it out how

Nssmu - is probably my best hope to do this right.
I'm thinking these steps:

- load nssmu
- select devices (go to new device)
- initialize it
- select raid devices
- select sys partition
- hit f3 to open the mirror
- select the new device.

Any comments?.

Ps: I'll probably set a quick test server to do this because I got 1
shot of making it right.
Don't want to mirror the blank to sys.

Thanks
Daniel


-----Original Message-----
From: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk 
[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Rick Ivars
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 8:03 AM
To: Novell LAN Interest Group
Subject: RE: Netware 6 server recovery question/advise needed.

look at this TID
http://www.novell.com/support/php/search.do?cmd=displayKC&docType=kc&ext

ernalId=10024156&sliceId=&docTypeID=DT_TID_1_1&dialogID=25096808&stateId
=1%200%2025090964

Rick Ivars
Senior Network Engineer
Master CNE, MCP, GCE, RCE, Project+
Datamax/Micro
rivars at mctweb.net 
http://www.mctweb.net 
501-603-3000 

>>> "Daniel Tran" <dtran at ssc.ucla.edu> 2/13/2009 9:49 AM >>>
The server (Proliant) has dual channel Adaptec Ultra160 SCSI.
Each drive on each channel.
No hardware raid on these boot drives.
I'm just using netware mirroring feature.
BTW, SYS is an NSS not traditional

Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk 
[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Rick Ivars
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 7:43 AM
To: Novell LAN Interest Group
Subject: Re: Netware 6 server recovery question/advise needed.

are you using hardware raid to mirror these drives?

Rick Ivars
Senior Network Engineer
Master CNE, MCP, GCE, RCE, Project+
Datamax/Micro
rivars at mctweb.net 
http://www.mctweb.net 
501-603-3000 

>>> "Daniel Tran" <dtran at ssc.ucla.edu> 2/13/2009 9:40 AM >>>
Hi,
I have an old NW 6 server.
The system has 2 hard disks for booting up to DOS (c: and d: ) DOS
partitions are identical.
SYS is also on those disks and they are mirrored.

Few days ago, the primary disk failed completely.
I was able to boot of to the secondary and bring up the system normally
and getting  "The mirrored objects on this system are not all
synchronized" message as expected.

Now I have a replacement disk.
I've created DOS partition and xcopy everything to it.

Question:

- I'm to put the new one in the system.
- I'm going to continue to boot up with the secondary drive
- How do I go about re-mirroring the SYS partition? Will it be done
automatically or do I have to do via NRM or ConsoleOne?.
This is the part I am unsure about. 

- If it will not be re-mirror automatically, do I have to create a new
pool/new partition/new volumes on the replacement drive and start a
re-mirror process manually.

Thanks for your help

Daniel
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From dtran at ssc.ucla.edu  Fri Feb 13 18:41:53 2009
From: dtran at ssc.ucla.edu (Daniel Tran)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:41:53 -0800
Subject: Netware 6 server recovery question/advise needed.
In-Reply-To: <D2A4CE9969F00C4DB94310BD8B1E203201B6279D@SSCBE.SS.ucla.edu>
References: <b433a1e35d0915bc7dfc0494e338daed@ladyburd.com><498F369F020000BB0004B152@mail2.nds8.com><498EEB8B020000010020C78F@BNGW.bay.k12.fl.us><498F412F020000BB0004B19C@mail2.nds8.com><4990077C.4040800@cam.ac.uk><49904A6C020000BB0004B34E@mail2.nds8.com><49929B4A.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com><4992CD7A.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com><4992B388.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com><4992B388.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com><499326B8.3010005@oucs.ox.ac.uk><4992DEF2.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com><4992CFE80200006D0002AF8D@roi-03.roillc.com><4992EC3B.811E.0072.0@tpchd.org><D2A4CE9969F00C4DB94310BD8B1E203201B6278B@SSCBE.SS.ucla.edu><499540B00200003700016EB1@mct2.mctweb.net><D2A4CE9969F00C4DB94310BD8B1E203201B6278C@SSCBE.SS.ucla.edu><4995453D0200003700016EB7@mct2.mctweb.net><D2A4CE9969F00C4DB94310BD8B1E203201B62791@SSCBE.SS.ucla.edu><4995554B0200003700016ECB@mct2.mctweb.net><49953D37.811E.0072.0@tpchd.org>
	<D2A4CE9969F00C4DB94310BD8B1E203201B6279D@SSCBE.SS.ucla.edu>
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Ahh ... One step closer ...

- ran nssmu
- select raid devices
- select the correct device/controller
- next screen I see the "raid segment" and one of the drive is
"off-line". Option available here is to "remove segment from raid".

Pics here: http://s558.photobucket.com/albums/ss21/dtranucla/

I guess once it is removed, I can add the new drive back the same way ?

Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Daniel Tran
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 9:52 AM
To: Novell LAN Interest Group
Subject: RE: Netware 6 server recovery question/advise needed.

@Rick,
I take it that you meant "if you remove the old drive then look at
mirror status ...break original mirror..."

The problem is I can't find that mirror status anywhere (except for that
console message scrolling).
NRM show me that 100% mirroring with 1 drive in the system.

@Randy,
Thanks for the tip.
I Just need to figure out how to do this right.
It has been a long time so be patience with me.

Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Randy Grein
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 9:28 AM
To: Novell LAN Interest Group
Subject: RE: Netware 6 server recovery question/advise needed.

Correct. And take notes on the device number before the actual mirror
process. I've done quite a few of these but measure twice, cut once!

Randy Grein
Sr. Network Engineer


>>> "Rick Ivars" <rivars at mctweb.net> 2/13/2009 9:11 AM >>>
if you remove the new drive then look at mirror status...you should be
able to break the original mirror..once it has been severed..you should
then be able to put the new drive in and re-establish the mirroring.
 
Rick Ivars
Senior Network Engineer
Master CNE, MCP, GCE, RCE, Project+
Datamax/Micro
rivars at mctweb.net 
http://www.mctweb.net 
501-603-3000 

>>> "Daniel Tran" <dtran at ssc.ucla.edu> 2/13/2009 10:50 AM >>>
Hum.....
I think that article applies to earlier version of netware (pre NSS day)
but I can be wrong here.
Load install has been replaced by nwconfig.
Nwconfig --> nss disk options has been replaced by nssmu / console1 /
NRM

NRM shows me something I don't understand saying mirror 100%
See pics here:
(http://s558.photobucket.com/albums/ss21/dtranucla/netware/)

Console1 - I can't figure it out how

Nssmu - is probably my best hope to do this right.
I'm thinking these steps:

- load nssmu
- select devices (go to new device)
- initialize it
- select raid devices
- select sys partition
- hit f3 to open the mirror
- select the new device.

Any comments?.

Ps: I'll probably set a quick test server to do this because I got 1
shot of making it right.
Don't want to mirror the blank to sys.

Thanks
Daniel


-----Original Message-----
From: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk 
[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Rick Ivars
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 8:03 AM
To: Novell LAN Interest Group
Subject: RE: Netware 6 server recovery question/advise needed.

look at this TID
http://www.novell.com/support/php/search.do?cmd=displayKC&docType=kc&ext

ernalId=10024156&sliceId=&docTypeID=DT_TID_1_1&dialogID=25096808&stateId
=1%200%2025090964

Rick Ivars
Senior Network Engineer
Master CNE, MCP, GCE, RCE, Project+
Datamax/Micro
rivars at mctweb.net 
http://www.mctweb.net 
501-603-3000 

>>> "Daniel Tran" <dtran at ssc.ucla.edu> 2/13/2009 9:49 AM >>>
The server (Proliant) has dual channel Adaptec Ultra160 SCSI.
Each drive on each channel.
No hardware raid on these boot drives.
I'm just using netware mirroring feature.
BTW, SYS is an NSS not traditional

Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk 
[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Rick Ivars
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 7:43 AM
To: Novell LAN Interest Group
Subject: Re: Netware 6 server recovery question/advise needed.

are you using hardware raid to mirror these drives?

Rick Ivars
Senior Network Engineer
Master CNE, MCP, GCE, RCE, Project+
Datamax/Micro
rivars at mctweb.net 
http://www.mctweb.net 
501-603-3000 

>>> "Daniel Tran" <dtran at ssc.ucla.edu> 2/13/2009 9:40 AM >>>
Hi,
I have an old NW 6 server.
The system has 2 hard disks for booting up to DOS (c: and d: ) DOS
partitions are identical.
SYS is also on those disks and they are mirrored.

Few days ago, the primary disk failed completely.
I was able to boot of to the secondary and bring up the system normally
and getting  "The mirrored objects on this system are not all
synchronized" message as expected.

Now I have a replacement disk.
I've created DOS partition and xcopy everything to it.

Question:

- I'm to put the new one in the system.
- I'm going to continue to boot up with the secondary drive
- How do I go about re-mirroring the SYS partition? Will it be done
automatically or do I have to do via NRM or ConsoleOne?.
This is the part I am unsure about. 

- If it will not be re-mirror automatically, do I have to create a new
pool/new partition/new volumes on the replacement drive and start a
re-mirror process manually.

Thanks for your help

Daniel
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From toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee  Fri Feb 13 19:47:15 2009
From: toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee (Toomas Aas)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 21:47:15 +0200
Subject: iPrint auditing doesn't show # of pages
In-Reply-To: <499556F00200008D00015E85@uct5.uct.usm.maine.edu>
References: <499556F00200008D00015E85@uct5.uct.usm.maine.edu>
Message-ID: <4995CE43.9070908@raad.tartu.ee>

Jon Dustin wrote:

> 
> Auditing in NetWare65 (and OES on Linux) does a *very good* job at
> counting pages. We use the native auditing capabilities quite
> extensively for a home-grown billing program in our computer labs, and
> NDPS auditing works very well.
> 

Yes, it seems to work mostly, but for some printers the number of pages is 
not shown, and one particular printer (Epson AL-CX11) is especially odd in 
that it reports number of pages for some jobs but not all - even for jobs 
submitted by the same user from the same workstation. So there are 
oddities, but mostly it seems to solve our immediate curiosity.

--
Toomas

... I always arrive late to work, but I make up for it by leaving early.

From Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee  Sun Feb 15 13:49:21 2009
From: Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee (Alar Pandis)
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 15:49:21 +0200
Subject: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours
Message-ID: <011a01c98f74$34e85730$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee>

Hi!
BM 3.6 SP2a, NW 5.1 SP8. Started last Monday our BM server start to behave
oddly. First we noticed that internet access via BM proxy start show "Status
: 500 Internal Server Error -- Description : Novell Proxy Memory Allocation
error". After I'd restart server (change almost nothing, add few NAT
addresses I have planned, this requires restart) it did work almost exactly
24 hours and ... we did lost connection to it. So few days. Exactly 24
hours. On server side it did work (console was ok) and I could note Monitor
info etc., but on restart attempt from console it didn't restart - console
hung -, but in other way was accessible for open programs from console. I
have to push the button. And ... 24 and same. It did work 310 days before
that and years before that wo any major problems.
Any ideas to start for looking some numbers from console. I tried, but for
me it shows almost ... normal. Didn't start brdsrv (incl. proxy) anymore and
same happen, few hours later than 24 hours running.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
More thanks, Alar.
See also threads
http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-prox
ies/359814-novell-proxy-memory-allocation-error.html
http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-inst
all-setup/360651-bm-3-6-looses-access-every-24-hours-so.html



From Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee  Tue Feb 17 08:37:03 2009
From: Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee (Alar Pandis)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:37:03 +0200
Subject: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours
Message-ID: <009f01c990da$e937ac60$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee>

Hi again!
24 hours and it looses all network connectivity and need restart. Sunday
morning I'd replace all memory pieces and add twice as much memory. Also did
clean it inside, little bit dusty. Nothing helps.
Right now I see that directory cache buffers is by 34 over minimum 1700, but
last time when I saw same and restart machine it decrease to 1110 or so.
I have on server console just console, timesync debug screen, named,
dhcpsrvr debug screen, novell ssl server handshake screen and monitor.
Usually I have started brdsrv and inetcfg and filtcfg, nothing more.
What I'd when proxy start to show on client browsers memory error.
I'd add three add ip addresses (in autoexec) to allow direct connection
between outside and inside worlds for one server and two as for future.
Removed from autoexec tftp start, we don't use it anymore. And ... nothing
more.
Any ideas?
More thanks,
Alar. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 3:49 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours

Hi!
BM 3.6 SP2a, NW 5.1 SP8. Started last Monday our BM server start to behave
oddly. First we noticed that internet access via BM proxy start show "Status
: 500 Internal Server Error -- Description : Novell Proxy Memory Allocation
error". After I'd restart server (change almost nothing, add few NAT
addresses I have planned, this requires restart) it did work almost exactly
24 hours and ... we did lost connection to it. So few days. Exactly 24
hours. On server side it did work (console was ok) and I could note Monitor
info etc., but on restart attempt from console it didn't restart - console
hung -, but in other way was accessible for open programs from console. I
have to push the button. And ... 24 and same. It did work 310 days before
that and years before that wo any major problems.
Any ideas to start for looking some numbers from console. I tried, but for
me it shows almost ... normal. Didn't start brdsrv (incl. proxy) anymore and
same happen, few hours later than 24 hours running.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
More thanks, Alar.
See also threads
http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-prox
ies/359814-novell-proxy-memory-allocation-error.html
http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-inst
all-setup/360651-bm-3-6-looses-access-every-24-hours-so.html



From Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee  Wed Feb 18 10:57:34 2009
From: Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee (Alar Pandis)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 12:57:34 +0200
Subject: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact
	every 24 hours
Message-ID: <00a601c991b7$b3ebfd80$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee>

Hi!
As no reply for this, I little bit rephrase my question! As no BM stuff is
loaded anymore I wonder where to look when NetWare 5.1 SP8 start act as
described below?! (Well, it start act so being loaded also with BM stuff.)
This machine is first between outside world. Almost nothing is loaded, just
NAT and filtering as it still acts like firewall.
And ... 24 hours and connection is broken, restart and again 24 hours.
Any ideas?
More thanks, Alar.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:37 AM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours

Hi again!
24 hours and it looses all network connectivity and need restart. Sunday
morning I'd replace all memory pieces and add twice as much memory. Also did
clean it inside, little bit dusty. Nothing helps.
Right now I see that directory cache buffers is by 34 over minimum 1700, but
last time when I saw same and restart machine it decrease to 1110 or so.
I have on server console just console, timesync debug screen, named,
dhcpsrvr debug screen, novell ssl server handshake screen and monitor.
Usually I have started brdsrv and inetcfg and filtcfg, nothing more.
What I'd when proxy start to show on client browsers memory error.
I'd add three add ip addresses (in autoexec) to allow direct connection
between outside and inside worlds for one server and two as for future.
Removed from autoexec tftp start, we don't use it anymore. And ... nothing
more.
Any ideas?
More thanks,
Alar. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 3:49 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours

Hi!
BM 3.6 SP2a, NW 5.1 SP8. Started last Monday our BM server start to behave
oddly. First we noticed that internet access via BM proxy start show "Status
: 500 Internal Server Error -- Description : Novell Proxy Memory Allocation
error". After I'd restart server (change almost nothing, add few NAT
addresses I have planned, this requires restart) it did work almost exactly
24 hours and ... we did lost connection to it. So few days. Exactly 24
hours. On server side it did work (console was ok) and I could note Monitor
info etc., but on restart attempt from console it didn't restart - console
hung -, but in other way was accessible for open programs from console. I
have to push the button. And ... 24 and same. It did work 310 days before
that and years before that wo any major problems.
Any ideas to start for looking some numbers from console. I tried, but for
me it shows almost ... normal. Didn't start brdsrv (incl. proxy) anymore and
same happen, few hours later than 24 hours running.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
More thanks, Alar.
See also threads
http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-prox
ies/359814-novell-proxy-memory-allocation-error.html
http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-inst
all-setup/360651-bm-3-6-looses-access-every-24-hours-so.html



From James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com  Wed Feb 18 13:43:31 2009
From: James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com (James Taylor)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 08:43:31 -0500
Subject: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses
	contactevery 24 hours
In-Reply-To: <00a601c991b7$b3ebfd80$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee>
References: <00a601c991b7$b3ebfd80$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee>
Message-ID: <499BCA33020000750002A8CF@inet.eastcobbgroup.com>

Since this started occurring without any know related event, it may be an instance of file corruption somewhere.  I have had strange, intermittent problems with no obvious cause that I have cured by reinstalling the latest support pack.  It replaces a very large percentage of system files, so there is a good chance that, if there is a corrupted file, it will be replaced.  It is a bit of a shotgun approach, but it doesn't usually take long and often works.

-jt 
 

James Taylor
The East Cobb Group, Inc.
678-697-9420
james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com
http://www.eastcobbgroup.com






>>> "Alar Pandis" <Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee> 2/18/2009 05:57 AM >>> 
Hi!
As no reply for this, I little bit rephrase my question! As no BM stuff is
loaded anymore I wonder where to look when NetWare 5.1 SP8 start act as
described below?! (Well, it start act so being loaded also with BM stuff.)
This machine is first between outside world. Almost nothing is loaded, just
NAT and filtering as it still acts like firewall.
And ... 24 hours and connection is broken, restart and again 24 hours.
Any ideas?
More thanks, Alar.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:37 AM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours

Hi again!
24 hours and it looses all network connectivity and need restart. Sunday
morning I'd replace all memory pieces and add twice as much memory. Also did
clean it inside, little bit dusty. Nothing helps.
Right now I see that directory cache buffers is by 34 over minimum 1700, but
last time when I saw same and restart machine it decrease to 1110 or so.
I have on server console just console, timesync debug screen, named,
dhcpsrvr debug screen, novell ssl server handshake screen and monitor.
Usually I have started brdsrv and inetcfg and filtcfg, nothing more.
What I'd when proxy start to show on client browsers memory error.
I'd add three add ip addresses (in autoexec) to allow direct connection
between outside and inside worlds for one server and two as for future.
Removed from autoexec tftp start, we don't use it anymore. And ... nothing
more.
Any ideas?
More thanks,
Alar. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 3:49 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours

Hi!
BM 3.6 SP2a, NW 5.1 SP8. Started last Monday our BM server start to behave
oddly. First we noticed that internet access via BM proxy start show "Status
: 500 Internal Server Error -- Description : Novell Proxy Memory Allocation
error". After I'd restart server (change almost nothing, add few NAT
addresses I have planned, this requires restart) it did work almost exactly
24 hours and ... we did lost connection to it. So few days. Exactly 24
hours. On server side it did work (console was ok) and I could note Monitor
info etc., but on restart attempt from console it didn't restart - console
hung -, but in other way was accessible for open programs from console. I
have to push the button. And ... 24 and same. It did work 310 days before
that and years before that wo any major problems.
Any ideas to start for looking some numbers from console. I tried, but for
me it shows almost ... normal. Didn't start brdsrv (incl. proxy) anymore and
same happen, few hours later than 24 hours running.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
More thanks, Alar.
See also threads
http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-prox
ies/359814-novell-proxy-memory-allocation-error.html
http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-inst
all-setup/360651-bm-3-6-looses-access-every-24-hours-so.html


_______________________________________________
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From Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee  Wed Feb 18 14:16:10 2009
From: Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee (Alar Pandis)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 16:16:10 +0200
Subject: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact
	every 24 hours
Message-ID: <00ba01c991d3$72dbbc60$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee>

Hi again and thanks!
Well, that's something!
So, I just run SP8 again as I did it before? Probably I must change tcpip
later back as it is for BM.
More thanks, Alar.

>>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Feb 18 13:43:31 GMT
2009 <<<


Since this started occurring without any know related event, it may be an
instance of file corruption somewhere.  I have had strange, intermittent
problems with no obvious cause that I have cured by reinstalling the latest
support pack.  It replaces a very large percentage of system files, so there
is a good chance that, if there is a corrupted file, it will be replaced.
It is a bit of a shotgun approach, but it doesn't usually take long and
often works.

-jt 
 

James Taylor
The East Cobb Group, Inc.
678-697-9420
james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com
http://www.eastcobbgroup.com

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 12:58 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact
every 24 hours

Hi!
As no reply for this, I little bit rephrase my question! As no BM stuff is
loaded anymore I wonder where to look when NetWare 5.1 SP8 start act as
described below?! (Well, it start act so being loaded also with BM stuff.)
This machine is first between outside world. Almost nothing is loaded, just
NAT and filtering as it still acts like firewall.
And ... 24 hours and connection is broken, restart and again 24 hours.
Any ideas?
More thanks, Alar.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:37 AM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours

Hi again!
24 hours and it looses all network connectivity and need restart. Sunday
morning I'd replace all memory pieces and add twice as much memory. Also did
clean it inside, little bit dusty. Nothing helps.
Right now I see that directory cache buffers is by 34 over minimum 1700, but
last time when I saw same and restart machine it decrease to 1110 or so.
I have on server console just console, timesync debug screen, named,
dhcpsrvr debug screen, novell ssl server handshake screen and monitor.
Usually I have started brdsrv and inetcfg and filtcfg, nothing more.
What I'd when proxy start to show on client browsers memory error.
I'd add three add ip addresses (in autoexec) to allow direct connection
between outside and inside worlds for one server and two as for future.
Removed from autoexec tftp start, we don't use it anymore. And ... nothing
more.
Any ideas?
More thanks,
Alar. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 3:49 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours

Hi!
BM 3.6 SP2a, NW 5.1 SP8. Started last Monday our BM server start to behave
oddly. First we noticed that internet access via BM proxy start show "Status
: 500 Internal Server Error -- Description : Novell Proxy Memory Allocation
error". After I'd restart server (change almost nothing, add few NAT
addresses I have planned, this requires restart) it did work almost exactly
24 hours and ... we did lost connection to it. So few days. Exactly 24
hours. On server side it did work (console was ok) and I could note Monitor
info etc., but on restart attempt from console it didn't restart - console
hung -, but in other way was accessible for open programs from console. I
have to push the button. And ... 24 and same. It did work 310 days before
that and years before that wo any major problems.
Any ideas to start for looking some numbers from console. I tried, but for
me it shows almost ... normal. Didn't start brdsrv (incl. proxy) anymore and
same happen, few hours later than 24 hours running.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
More thanks, Alar.
See also threads
http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-prox
ies/359814-novell-proxy-memory-allocation-error.html
http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-inst
all-setup/360651-bm-3-6-looses-access-every-24-hours-so.html



From ducharme at escape.ca  Wed Feb 18 14:23:10 2009
From: ducharme at escape.ca (Mike Ducharme)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 08:23:10 -0600
Subject: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact
	every 24 hours
In-Reply-To: <00a601c991b7$b3ebfd80$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee>
References: <00a601c991b7$b3ebfd80$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee>
Message-ID: <499C19CE.3080202@escape.ca>

Have you checked your proxy logs to look for unusual activity (like a 
virus, or hacking attempt?) perhaps someone is trying to overload your 
proxy on purpose....

Alar Pandis wrote:
> Hi!
> As no reply for this, I little bit rephrase my question! As no BM stuff is
> loaded anymore I wonder where to look when NetWare 5.1 SP8 start act as
> described below?! (Well, it start act so being loaded also with BM stuff.)
> This machine is first between outside world. Almost nothing is loaded, just
> NAT and filtering as it still acts like firewall.
> And ... 24 hours and connection is broken, restart and again 24 hours.
> Any ideas?
> More thanks, Alar.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:37 AM
> To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
> Subject: RE: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours
>
> Hi again!
> 24 hours and it looses all network connectivity and need restart. Sunday
> morning I'd replace all memory pieces and add twice as much memory. Also did
> clean it inside, little bit dusty. Nothing helps.
> Right now I see that directory cache buffers is by 34 over minimum 1700, but
> last time when I saw same and restart machine it decrease to 1110 or so.
> I have on server console just console, timesync debug screen, named,
> dhcpsrvr debug screen, novell ssl server handshake screen and monitor.
> Usually I have started brdsrv and inetcfg and filtcfg, nothing more.
> What I'd when proxy start to show on client browsers memory error.
> I'd add three add ip addresses (in autoexec) to allow direct connection
> between outside and inside worlds for one server and two as for future.
> Removed from autoexec tftp start, we don't use it anymore. And ... nothing
> more.
> Any ideas?
> More thanks,
> Alar. 
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 3:49 PM
> To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
> Subject: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours
>
> Hi!
> BM 3.6 SP2a, NW 5.1 SP8. Started last Monday our BM server start to behave
> oddly. First we noticed that internet access via BM proxy start show "Status
> : 500 Internal Server Error -- Description : Novell Proxy Memory Allocation
> error". After I'd restart server (change almost nothing, add few NAT
> addresses I have planned, this requires restart) it did work almost exactly
> 24 hours and ... we did lost connection to it. So few days. Exactly 24
> hours. On server side it did work (console was ok) and I could note Monitor
> info etc., but on restart attempt from console it didn't restart - console
> hung -, but in other way was accessible for open programs from console. I
> have to push the button. And ... 24 and same. It did work 310 days before
> that and years before that wo any major problems.
> Any ideas to start for looking some numbers from console. I tried, but for
> me it shows almost ... normal. Didn't start brdsrv (incl. proxy) anymore and
> same happen, few hours later than 24 hours running.
> Any help is greatly appreciated.
> More thanks, Alar.
> See also threads
> http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-prox
> ies/359814-novell-proxy-memory-allocation-error.html
> http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-inst
> all-setup/360651-bm-3-6-looses-access-every-24-hours-so.html
>
>
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From James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com  Wed Feb 18 14:29:09 2009
From: James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com (James Taylor)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 09:29:09 -0500
Subject: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses
	contactevery 24 hours
In-Reply-To: <00ba01c991d3$72dbbc60$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee>
References: <00ba01c991d3$72dbbc60$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee>
Message-ID: <499BD4E5020000750002A91F@inet.eastcobbgroup.com>

Yes.  Also, pay attention to any post sp8 updates that may have been applied.  There may be some TCP updates since the original patch, so you want to make sure everything matches afterward.

FYI - I'm still running both of my public DNS servers, with BM, on NW65sp8.  I've had these servers (workstations, actually) running for over 7 years, and I need to update the hardware and replace then with linux servers, but they have been so rock solid, I hate to touch them.

-jt
 

James Taylor
The East Cobb Group, Inc.
678-697-9420
james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com
http://www.eastcobbgroup.com






>>> "Alar Pandis" <Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee> 2/18/2009 09:16 AM >>> 
Hi again and thanks!
Well, that's something!
So, I just run SP8 again as I did it before? Probably I must change tcpip
later back as it is for BM.
More thanks, Alar.

>>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Feb 18 13:43:31 GMT
2009 <<<


Since this started occurring without any know related event, it may be an
instance of file corruption somewhere.  I have had strange, intermittent
problems with no obvious cause that I have cured by reinstalling the latest
support pack.  It replaces a very large percentage of system files, so there
is a good chance that, if there is a corrupted file, it will be replaced.
It is a bit of a shotgun approach, but it doesn't usually take long and
often works.

-jt 
 

James Taylor
The East Cobb Group, Inc.
678-697-9420
james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com
http://www.eastcobbgroup.com

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 12:58 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact
every 24 hours

Hi!
As no reply for this, I little bit rephrase my question! As no BM stuff is
loaded anymore I wonder where to look when NetWare 5.1 SP8 start act as
described below?! (Well, it start act so being loaded also with BM stuff.)
This machine is first between outside world. Almost nothing is loaded, just
NAT and filtering as it still acts like firewall.
And ... 24 hours and connection is broken, restart and again 24 hours.
Any ideas?
More thanks, Alar.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:37 AM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours

Hi again!
24 hours and it looses all network connectivity and need restart. Sunday
morning I'd replace all memory pieces and add twice as much memory. Also did
clean it inside, little bit dusty. Nothing helps.
Right now I see that directory cache buffers is by 34 over minimum 1700, but
last time when I saw same and restart machine it decrease to 1110 or so.
I have on server console just console, timesync debug screen, named,
dhcpsrvr debug screen, novell ssl server handshake screen and monitor.
Usually I have started brdsrv and inetcfg and filtcfg, nothing more.
What I'd when proxy start to show on client browsers memory error.
I'd add three add ip addresses (in autoexec) to allow direct connection
between outside and inside worlds for one server and two as for future.
Removed from autoexec tftp start, we don't use it anymore. And ... nothing
more.
Any ideas?
More thanks,
Alar. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 3:49 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours

Hi!
BM 3.6 SP2a, NW 5.1 SP8. Started last Monday our BM server start to behave
oddly. First we noticed that internet access via BM proxy start show "Status
: 500 Internal Server Error -- Description : Novell Proxy Memory Allocation
error". After I'd restart server (change almost nothing, add few NAT
addresses I have planned, this requires restart) it did work almost exactly
24 hours and ... we did lost connection to it. So few days. Exactly 24
hours. On server side it did work (console was ok) and I could note Monitor
info etc., but on restart attempt from console it didn't restart - console
hung -, but in other way was accessible for open programs from console. I
have to push the button. And ... 24 and same. It did work 310 days before
that and years before that wo any major problems.
Any ideas to start for looking some numbers from console. I tried, but for
me it shows almost ... normal. Didn't start brdsrv (incl. proxy) anymore and
same happen, few hours later than 24 hours running.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
More thanks, Alar.
See also threads
http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-prox
ies/359814-novell-proxy-memory-allocation-error.html
http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-inst
all-setup/360651-bm-3-6-looses-access-every-24-hours-so.html


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From Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee  Wed Feb 18 15:36:29 2009
From: Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee (Alar Pandis)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 17:36:29 +0200
Subject: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact
	every 24 hours
Message-ID: <00bf01c991de$ab267000$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee>

Hi and thanks!
For couple of days is no proxy loaded at all. Only thing I have checked by
my own knowledge is traffic recorder by MRTG and ... nothing so much.
Strange is that it works more-less exactly 24 hours! And, yes, it started
after 310 days working wo any problems at all.
More thanks, Alar.

>>> Mike Ducharme ducharme at escape.ca Wed Feb 18 14:23:10 GMT 2009 >>>
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----

Have you checked your proxy logs to look for unusual activity (like a 
virus, or hacking attempt?) perhaps someone is trying to overload your 
proxy on purpose....



-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 12:58 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact
every 24 hours

Hi!
As no reply for this, I little bit rephrase my question! As no BM stuff is
loaded anymore I wonder where to look when NetWare 5.1 SP8 start act as
described below?! (Well, it start act so being loaded also with BM stuff.)
This machine is first between outside world. Almost nothing is loaded, just
NAT and filtering as it still acts like firewall.
And ... 24 hours and connection is broken, restart and again 24 hours.
Any ideas?
More thanks, Alar.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:37 AM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours

Hi again!
24 hours and it looses all network connectivity and need restart. Sunday
morning I'd replace all memory pieces and add twice as much memory. Also did
clean it inside, little bit dusty. Nothing helps.
Right now I see that directory cache buffers is by 34 over minimum 1700, but
last time when I saw same and restart machine it decrease to 1110 or so.
I have on server console just console, timesync debug screen, named,
dhcpsrvr debug screen, novell ssl server handshake screen and monitor.
Usually I have started brdsrv and inetcfg and filtcfg, nothing more.
What I'd when proxy start to show on client browsers memory error.
I'd add three add ip addresses (in autoexec) to allow direct connection
between outside and inside worlds for one server and two as for future.
Removed from autoexec tftp start, we don't use it anymore. And ... nothing
more.
Any ideas?
More thanks,
Alar. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 3:49 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours

Hi!
BM 3.6 SP2a, NW 5.1 SP8. Started last Monday our BM server start to behave
oddly. First we noticed that internet access via BM proxy start show "Status
: 500 Internal Server Error -- Description : Novell Proxy Memory Allocation
error". After I'd restart server (change almost nothing, add few NAT
addresses I have planned, this requires restart) it did work almost exactly
24 hours and ... we did lost connection to it. So few days. Exactly 24
hours. On server side it did work (console was ok) and I could note Monitor
info etc., but on restart attempt from console it didn't restart - console
hung -, but in other way was accessible for open programs from console. I
have to push the button. And ... 24 and same. It did work 310 days before
that and years before that wo any major problems.
Any ideas to start for looking some numbers from console. I tried, but for
me it shows almost ... normal. Didn't start brdsrv (incl. proxy) anymore and
same happen, few hours later than 24 hours running.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
More thanks, Alar.
See also threads
http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-prox
ies/359814-novell-proxy-memory-allocation-error.html
http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-inst
all-setup/360651-bm-3-6-looses-access-every-24-hours-so.html



From Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee  Wed Feb 18 15:41:47 2009
From: Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee (Alar Pandis)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 17:41:47 +0200
Subject: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact
	every 24 hours
Message-ID: <00c301c991df$68d9f9a0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee>

Hi again and thanks James!
I'm agree -- this our NW 5.1 with BM 3.6 on top of it has done very good
job, indeed! But now I'm thinking replace it with special firewall device
like NSA 2400 from Sonicwall etc. I'm not sure. But, anyway, I can't do that
in middle of working period, may be at summer or so. If something with this
server more bad does not happen, I hope not.
I'll wait until server does next unplanned stop as last day I'd removed from
autoexec some SSL and FTP components still loaded with no use and then try
to reinstall SP8.
More thanks, Alar.

>>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Feb 18 14:29:09 GMT
2009 >>>
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----

Yes.  Also, pay attention to any post sp8 updates that may have been
applied.  There may be some TCP updates since the original patch, so you
want to make sure everything matches afterward.

FYI - I'm still running both of my public DNS servers, with BM, on NW65sp8.
I've had these servers (workstations, actually) running for over 7 years,
and I need to update the hardware and replace then with linux servers, but
they have been so rock solid, I hate to touch them.

-jt
 

James Taylor
The East Cobb Group, Inc.
678-697-9420
james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com
http://www.eastcobbgroup.com




 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 4:16 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact
every 24 hours

Hi again and thanks!
Well, that's something!
So, I just run SP8 again as I did it before? Probably I must change tcpip
later back as it is for BM.
More thanks, Alar.

>>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Feb 18 13:43:31 GMT
2009 <<<


Since this started occurring without any know related event, it may be an
instance of file corruption somewhere.  I have had strange, intermittent
problems with no obvious cause that I have cured by reinstalling the latest
support pack.  It replaces a very large percentage of system files, so there
is a good chance that, if there is a corrupted file, it will be replaced.
It is a bit of a shotgun approach, but it doesn't usually take long and
often works.

-jt 
 

James Taylor
The East Cobb Group, Inc.
678-697-9420
james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com
http://www.eastcobbgroup.com

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 12:58 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact
every 24 hours

Hi!
As no reply for this, I little bit rephrase my question! As no BM stuff is
loaded anymore I wonder where to look when NetWare 5.1 SP8 start act as
described below?! (Well, it start act so being loaded also with BM stuff.)
This machine is first between outside world. Almost nothing is loaded, just
NAT and filtering as it still acts like firewall.
And ... 24 hours and connection is broken, restart and again 24 hours.
Any ideas?
More thanks, Alar.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:37 AM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours

Hi again!
24 hours and it looses all network connectivity and need restart. Sunday
morning I'd replace all memory pieces and add twice as much memory. Also did
clean it inside, little bit dusty. Nothing helps.
Right now I see that directory cache buffers is by 34 over minimum 1700, but
last time when I saw same and restart machine it decrease to 1110 or so.
I have on server console just console, timesync debug screen, named,
dhcpsrvr debug screen, novell ssl server handshake screen and monitor.
Usually I have started brdsrv and inetcfg and filtcfg, nothing more.
What I'd when proxy start to show on client browsers memory error.
I'd add three add ip addresses (in autoexec) to allow direct connection
between outside and inside worlds for one server and two as for future.
Removed from autoexec tftp start, we don't use it anymore. And ... nothing
more.
Any ideas?
More thanks,
Alar. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 3:49 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours

Hi!
BM 3.6 SP2a, NW 5.1 SP8. Started last Monday our BM server start to behave
oddly. First we noticed that internet access via BM proxy start show "Status
: 500 Internal Server Error -- Description : Novell Proxy Memory Allocation
error". After I'd restart server (change almost nothing, add few NAT
addresses I have planned, this requires restart) it did work almost exactly
24 hours and ... we did lost connection to it. So few days. Exactly 24
hours. On server side it did work (console was ok) and I could note Monitor
info etc., but on restart attempt from console it didn't restart - console
hung -, but in other way was accessible for open programs from console. I
have to push the button. And ... 24 and same. It did work 310 days before
that and years before that wo any major problems.
Any ideas to start for looking some numbers from console. I tried, but for
me it shows almost ... normal. Didn't start brdsrv (incl. proxy) anymore and
same happen, few hours later than 24 hours running.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
More thanks, Alar.
See also threads
http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-prox
ies/359814-novell-proxy-memory-allocation-error.html
http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-inst
all-setup/360651-bm-3-6-looses-access-every-24-hours-so.html



From RZeman at melwood.org  Fri Feb 20 15:22:17 2009
From: RZeman at melwood.org (Rick Zeman)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:22:17 -0500
Subject: NSS Block errors
Message-ID: <499E8462.C84D.00CE.0@melwood.org>

We're getting this on our main data volume (130GB used out of 180GB):
 
 2-14-2009  12:10:33 am:    COMN-3.25-178  [nmID=A0020]
     NSS-2.70-5009: Pool PG1/VOL1 had an error
     (20012(beastTree.c[510])) at block 6533309(file block -6533309)(ZID 1).
 
always on the same block.  In all the times I've had NSS volumes, I've never had to run a /pool verify or /pool rebuild and all of the dire warnings have us a bit concerned (OTOH, we've run vrepair with on issues on "classic" volumes in the past with never an issue).  Are we being TOO paranoid?  At what point when a pool has an error does it dismount the volume(s) in the pool?
 
We're fairly confident in our backups, but short of doing a FULL restore we can't be 100% sure.
 
Any advice?
 
TIA,

RCZ


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From James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com  Fri Feb 20 15:31:22 2009
From: James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com (James Taylor)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:31:22 -0500
Subject: NSS Block errors
In-Reply-To: <499E8462.C84D.00CE.0@melwood.org>
References: <499E8462.C84D.00CE.0@melwood.org>
Message-ID: <499E867A0200007500045D03@inet.eastcobbgroup.com>

You didn't mention platform or release version, but my experience has been good with nss /poolverify and /poolrebuild.
Some of the earliest versions of nss were a bit shaky in that area, but I've not had a problem recently.  Admittedly, nss runs so well that I have had few instances of needing to use these, and any disk maintenance activity entails some element of risk.

The only times I've had relatively unsuccessful results was when hardware was starting to, or had, failed.  I had one instance where we were able to limp through by doing a couple of rebuilds a day until we got new hardware in to replace some that was failing.

-jt 
 

James Taylor
The East Cobb Group, Inc.
678-697-9420
james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com
http://www.eastcobbgroup.com






>>> "Rick Zeman" <RZeman at melwood.org> 2/20/2009 10:22 AM >>> 
We're getting this on our main data volume (130GB used out of 180GB):
 
 2-14-2009  12:10:33 am:    COMN-3.25-178  [nmID=A0020]
     NSS-2.70-5009: Pool PG1/VOL1 had an error
     (20012(beastTree.c[510])) at block 6533309(file block -6533309)(ZID 1).
 
always on the same block.  In all the times I've had NSS volumes, I've never had to run a /pool verify or /pool rebuild and all of the dire warnings have us a bit concerned (OTOH, we've run vrepair with on issues on "classic" volumes in the past with never an issue).  Are we being TOO paranoid?  At what point when a pool has an error does it dismount the volume(s) in the pool?
 
We're fairly confident in our backups, but short of doing a FULL restore we can't be 100% sure.
 
Any advice?
 
TIA,

RCZ


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From RZeman at melwood.org  Fri Feb 20 15:39:04 2009
From: RZeman at melwood.org (Rick Zeman)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:39:04 -0500
Subject: NSS Block errors
In-Reply-To: <499E867A0200007500045D03@inet.eastcobbgroup.com>
References: <499E8462.C84D.00CE.0@melwood.org>
	<499E867A0200007500045D03@inet.eastcobbgroup.com>
Message-ID: <499E8851.C84D.00CE.0@melwood.org>

Oh, good point.  NW 6.5 SP7 on a Dell PE 1850 RAID 5 striped across 5 disks.

>>> "James Taylor" <James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com> 2/20/2009 10:31 AM >>>
You didn't mention platform or release version, but my experience has been good with nss /poolverify and /poolrebuild.
Some of the earliest versions of nss were a bit shaky in that area, but I've not had a problem recently.  Admittedly, nss runs so well that I have had few instances of needing to use these, and any disk maintenance activity entails some element of risk.

The only times I've had relatively unsuccessful results was when hardware was starting to, or had, failed.  I had one instance where we were able to limp through by doing a couple of rebuilds a day until we got new hardware in to replace some that was failing.

-jt 


James Taylor
The East Cobb Group, Inc.
678-697-9420
james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com 
http://www.eastcobbgroup.com 






>>> "Rick Zeman" <RZeman at melwood.org> 2/20/2009 10:22 AM >>> 
We're getting this on our main data volume (130GB used out of 180GB):

2-14-2009  12:10:33 am:    COMN-3.25-178  [nmID=A0020]
     NSS-2.70-5009: Pool PG1/VOL1 had an error
     (20012(beastTree.c[510])) at block 6533309(file block -6533309)(ZID 1).

always on the same block.  In all the times I've had NSS volumes, I've never had to run a /pool verify or /pool rebuild and all of the dire warnings have us a bit concerned (OTOH, we've run vrepair with on issues on "classic" volumes in the past with never an issue).  Are we being TOO paranoid?  At what point when a pool has an error does it dismount the volume(s) in the pool?

We're fairly confident in our backups, but short of doing a FULL restore we can't be 100% sure.

Any advice?

TIA,

RCZ


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From MGlenn at cco.state.oh.us  Fri Feb 20 16:09:47 2009
From: MGlenn at cco.state.oh.us (Michael Glenn)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 11:09:47 -0500
Subject: Switching SLE to in-house SMT
In-Reply-To: <499E8851.C84D.00CE.0@melwood.org>
References: <499E8462.C84D.00CE.0@melwood.org>
	<499E867A0200007500045D03@inet.eastcobbgroup.com>
	<499E8851.C84D.00CE.0@melwood.org>
Message-ID: <499E8F79.33FD.002C.1@cco.state.oh.us>

Hello; it's me again.

I'm trying to find a procedure for switching existing SLE machines from online registration and update to our new in-house SMT server. Can someone give me a clue? 

Thanks.



From joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk  Fri Feb 20 16:38:44 2009
From: joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk (jrd)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 16:38:44 +0000
Subject: Switching SLE to in-house SMT
In-Reply-To: <499E8F79.33FD.002C.1@cco.state.oh.us>
References: <499E8462.C84D.00CE.0@melwood.org>	<499E867A0200007500045D03@inet.eastcobbgroup.com>	<499E8851.C84D.00CE.0@melwood.org>
	<499E8F79.33FD.002C.1@cco.state.oh.us>
Message-ID: <499EDC94.7090505@oucs.ox.ac.uk>

Michael Glenn wrote:
> Hello; it's me again.
> 
> I'm trying to find a procedure for switching existing SLE machines from online registration and update to our new in-house SMT server. Can someone give me a clue? 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
----------
	Novell's web site has a doc on SMT. I have a copy somewhere.
My brief testing of SMT has not been as happy as I had hoped, and
I think SMT has some maturing to do before I take it seriously.
	Here we are for the code (has docs):
SLES-10-SP2-SMT-BiArch-GM-CD1.iso
	For clients one uses a supplied shell script. That is
discussed in the docs.
	Joe D.

From HPfeil at uca.edu  Fri Feb 20 16:41:52 2009
From: HPfeil at uca.edu (Hans Pfeil)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:41:52 -0600
Subject: NSS Block errors
In-Reply-To: <499E8851.C84D.00CE.0@melwood.org>
References: <499E8462.C84D.00CE.0@melwood.org>
	<499E867A0200007500045D03@inet.eastcobbgroup.com>
	<499E8851.C84D.00CE.0@melwood.org>
Message-ID: <499E88F0.6010.00BD.0@uca.edu>

How much data?  Depending on how much data is out there it could take awhile.  A pool verify is non-intrusive and is much faster than a pool rebuild.  Also, if you do a verify and it finds errors you will not be able to remount your volume.  It forces you to do a rebuild.  A rebuild will take much longer.  It took us about 4 hours to verify and 8 hours for the rebuild.

-Hans


>>> "Rick Zeman" <RZeman at melwood.org> 2/20/2009 9:39 AM >>>
Oh, good point.  NW 6.5 SP7 on a Dell PE 1850 RAID 5 striped across 5 disks.

>>> "James Taylor" <James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com> 2/20/2009 10:31 AM >>>
You didn't mention platform or release version, but my experience has been good with nss /poolverify and /poolrebuild.
Some of the earliest versions of nss were a bit shaky in that area, but I've not had a problem recently.  Admittedly, nss runs so well that I have had few instances of needing to use these, and any disk maintenance activity entails some element of risk.

The only times I've had relatively unsuccessful results was when hardware was starting to, or had, failed.  I had one instance where we were able to limp through by doing a couple of rebuilds a day until we got new hardware in to replace some that was failing.

-jt 


James Taylor
The East Cobb Group, Inc.
678-697-9420
james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com 
http://www.eastcobbgroup.com 






>>> "Rick Zeman" <RZeman at melwood.org> 2/20/2009 10:22 AM >>> 
We're getting this on our main data volume (130GB used out of 180GB):

2-14-2009  12:10:33 am:    COMN-3.25-178  [nmID=A0020]
     NSS-2.70-5009: Pool PG1/VOL1 had an error
     (20012(beastTree.c[510])) at block 6533309(file block -6533309)(ZID 1).

always on the same block.  In all the times I've had NSS volumes, I've never had to run a /pool verify or /pool rebuild and all of the dire warnings have us a bit concerned (OTOH, we've run vrepair with on issues on "classic" volumes in the past with never an issue).  Are we being TOO paranoid?  At what point when a pool has an error does it dismount the volume(s) in the pool?

We're fairly confident in our backups, but short of doing a FULL restore we can't be 100% sure.

Any advice?

TIA,

RCZ


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From RZeman at melwood.org  Fri Feb 20 18:18:36 2009
From: RZeman at melwood.org (Rick Zeman)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 13:18:36 -0500
Subject: NSS Block errors
In-Reply-To: <499E88F0.6010.00BD.0@uca.edu>
References: <499E8462.C84D.00CE.0@melwood.org>
	<499E867A0200007500045D03@inet.eastcobbgroup.com>
	<499E8851.C84D.00CE.0@melwood.org> <499E88F0.6010.00BD.0@uca.edu>
Message-ID: <499EADB5.C84D.00CE.0@melwood.org>

How large of a volume?

>>> "Hans Pfeil" <HPfeil at uca.edu> 2/20/2009 11:41 AM >>>
How much data?  Depending on how much data is out there it could take awhile.  A pool verify is non-intrusive and is much faster than a pool rebuild.  Also, if you do a verify and it finds errors you will not be able to remount your volume.  It forces you to do a rebuild.  A rebuild will take much longer.  It took us about 4 hours to verify and 8 hours for the rebuild.

-Hans


>>> "Rick Zeman" <RZeman at melwood.org> 2/20/2009 9:39 AM >>>
Oh, good point.  NW 6.5 SP7 on a Dell PE 1850 RAID 5 striped across 5 disks.

>>> "James Taylor" <James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com> 2/20/2009 10:31 AM >>>
You didn't mention platform or release version, but my experience has been good with nss /poolverify and /poolrebuild.
Some of the earliest versions of nss were a bit shaky in that area, but I've not had a problem recently.  Admittedly, nss runs so well that I have had few instances of needing to use these, and any disk maintenance activity entails some element of risk.

The only times I've had relatively unsuccessful results was when hardware was starting to, or had, failed.  I had one instance where we were able to limp through by doing a couple of rebuilds a day until we got new hardware in to replace some that was failing.

-jt 


James Taylor
The East Cobb Group, Inc.
678-697-9420
james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com 
http://www.eastcobbgroup.com 






>>> "Rick Zeman" <RZeman at melwood.org> 2/20/2009 10:22 AM >>> 
We're getting this on our main data volume (130GB used out of 180GB):

2-14-2009  12:10:33 am:    COMN-3.25-178  [nmID=A0020]
     NSS-2.70-5009: Pool PG1/VOL1 had an error
     (20012(beastTree.c[510])) at block 6533309(file block -6533309)(ZID 1).

always on the same block.  In all the times I've had NSS volumes, I've never had to run a /pool verify or /pool rebuild and all of the dire warnings have us a bit concerned (OTOH, we've run vrepair with on issues on "classic" volumes in the past with never an issue).  Are we being TOO paranoid?  At what point when a pool has an error does it dismount the volume(s) in the pool?

We're fairly confident in our backups, but short of doing a FULL restore we can't be 100% sure.

Any advice?

TIA,

RCZ


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From HPfeil at uca.edu  Fri Feb 20 19:20:56 2009
From: HPfeil at uca.edu (Hans Pfeil)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 13:20:56 -0600
Subject: NSS Block errors
In-Reply-To: <499EADB5.C84D.00CE.0@melwood.org>
References: <499E8462.C84D.00CE.0@melwood.org>
	<499E867A0200007500045D03@inet.eastcobbgroup.com>
	<499E8851.C84D.00CE.0@melwood.org> <499E88F0.6010.00BD.0@uca.edu>
	<499EADB5.C84D.00CE.0@melwood.org>
Message-ID: <499EAE38.6010.00BD.0@uca.edu>

Hey Rick,  the volume is about 1Tb and the amount of data was about 200Gb.



>>> "Rick Zeman" <RZeman at melwood.org> 2/20/2009 12:18 PM >>>
How large of a volume?

>>> "Hans Pfeil" <HPfeil at uca.edu> 2/20/2009 11:41 AM >>>
How much data?  Depending on how much data is out there it could take awhile.  A pool verify is non-intrusive and is much faster than a pool rebuild.  Also, if you do a verify and it finds errors you will not be able to remount your volume.  It forces you to do a rebuild.  A rebuild will take much longer.  It took us about 4 hours to verify and 8 hours for the rebuild.

-Hans


>>> "Rick Zeman" <RZeman at melwood.org> 2/20/2009 9:39 AM >>>
Oh, good point.  NW 6.5 SP7 on a Dell PE 1850 RAID 5 striped across 5 disks.

>>> "James Taylor" <James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com> 2/20/2009 10:31 AM >>>
You didn't mention platform or release version, but my experience has been good with nss /poolverify and /poolrebuild.
Some of the earliest versions of nss were a bit shaky in that area, but I've not had a problem recently.  Admittedly, nss runs so well that I have had few instances of needing to use these, and any disk maintenance activity entails some element of risk.

The only times I've had relatively unsuccessful results was when hardware was starting to, or had, failed.  I had one instance where we were able to limp through by doing a couple of rebuilds a day until we got new hardware in to replace some that was failing.

-jt 


James Taylor
The East Cobb Group, Inc.
678-697-9420
james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com 
http://www.eastcobbgroup.com 






>>> "Rick Zeman" <RZeman at melwood.org> 2/20/2009 10:22 AM >>> 
We're getting this on our main data volume (130GB used out of 180GB):

2-14-2009  12:10:33 am:    COMN-3.25-178  [nmID=A0020]
     NSS-2.70-5009: Pool PG1/VOL1 had an error
     (20012(beastTree.c[510])) at block 6533309(file block -6533309)(ZID 1).

always on the same block.  In all the times I've had NSS volumes, I've never had to run a /pool verify or /pool rebuild and all of the dire warnings have us a bit concerned (OTOH, we've run vrepair with on issues on "classic" volumes in the past with never an issue).  Are we being TOO paranoid?  At what point when a pool has an error does it dismount the volume(s) in the pool?

We're fairly confident in our backups, but short of doing a FULL restore we can't be 100% sure.

Any advice?

TIA,

RCZ


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From dtran at ssc.ucla.edu  Sat Feb 21 04:17:28 2009
From: dtran at ssc.ucla.edu (Daniel Tran)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 20:17:28 -0800
Subject: NSS Block errors
In-Reply-To: <499EAE38.6010.00BD.0@uca.edu>
References: <499E8462.C84D.00CE.0@melwood.org><499E867A0200007500045D03@inet.eastcobbgroup.com><499E8851.C84D.00CE.0@melwood.org>
	<499E88F0.6010.00BD.0@uca.edu><499EADB5.C84D.00CE.0@melwood.org>
	<499EAE38.6010.00BD.0@uca.edu>
Message-ID: <D2A4CE9969F00C4DB94310BD8B1E203201B62A0C@SSCBE.SS.ucla.edu>

I've done it on a volume of 700 GB with about 500 GB of data.
The rebuild took over 12 hours (I forgot exactly, it was too long ago).

Since then, I've create many smaller pools/volumes to avoid the long
rebuild time if I have to do it again.

-----Original Message-----
From: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Hans Pfeil
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 11:21 AM
To: Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
Subject: Re: NSS Block errors

Hey Rick,  the volume is about 1Tb and the amount of data was about
200Gb.



>>> "Rick Zeman" <RZeman at melwood.org> 2/20/2009 12:18 PM >>>
How large of a volume?

>>> "Hans Pfeil" <HPfeil at uca.edu> 2/20/2009 11:41 AM >>>
How much data?  Depending on how much data is out there it could take
awhile.  A pool verify is non-intrusive and is much faster than a pool
rebuild.  Also, if you do a verify and it finds errors you will not be
able to remount your volume.  It forces you to do a rebuild.  A rebuild
will take much longer.  It took us about 4 hours to verify and 8 hours
for the rebuild.

-Hans


>>> "Rick Zeman" <RZeman at melwood.org> 2/20/2009 9:39 AM >>>
Oh, good point.  NW 6.5 SP7 on a Dell PE 1850 RAID 5 striped across 5
disks.

>>> "James Taylor" <James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com> 2/20/2009 10:31 AM
>>>
You didn't mention platform or release version, but my experience has
been good with nss /poolverify and /poolrebuild.
Some of the earliest versions of nss were a bit shaky in that area, but
I've not had a problem recently.  Admittedly, nss runs so well that I
have had few instances of needing to use these, and any disk maintenance
activity entails some element of risk.

The only times I've had relatively unsuccessful results was when
hardware was starting to, or had, failed.  I had one instance where we
were able to limp through by doing a couple of rebuilds a day until we
got new hardware in to replace some that was failing.

-jt 


James Taylor
The East Cobb Group, Inc.
678-697-9420
james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com 
http://www.eastcobbgroup.com 






>>> "Rick Zeman" <RZeman at melwood.org> 2/20/2009 10:22 AM >>> 
We're getting this on our main data volume (130GB used out of 180GB):

2-14-2009  12:10:33 am:    COMN-3.25-178  [nmID=A0020]
     NSS-2.70-5009: Pool PG1/VOL1 had an error
     (20012(beastTree.c[510])) at block 6533309(file block -6533309)(ZID
1).

always on the same block.  In all the times I've had NSS volumes, I've
never had to run a /pool verify or /pool rebuild and all of the dire
warnings have us a bit concerned (OTOH, we've run vrepair with on issues
on "classic" volumes in the past with never an issue).  Are we being TOO
paranoid?  At what point when a pool has an error does it dismount the
volume(s) in the pool?

We're fairly confident in our backups, but short of doing a FULL restore
we can't be 100% sure.

Any advice?

TIA,

RCZ


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From Mark.Robinson at nds8.co.uk  Sat Feb 21 15:43:49 2009
From: Mark.Robinson at nds8.co.uk (Mark Robinson)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 15:43:49 +0000
Subject: Switching SLE to in-house SMT
In-Reply-To: <499E8F79.33FD.002C.1@cco.state.oh.us>
References: <499E8462.C84D.00CE.0@melwood.org>
	<499E867A0200007500045D03@inet.eastcobbgroup.com>
	<499E8851.C84D.00CE.0@melwood.org>
	<499E8F79.33FD.002C.1@cco.state.oh.us>
Message-ID: <49A02135020000AD000210FC@mail2.nds8.com>

You simply need to run the clientSetup4SMT.sh script on the box and then
re-register using the Customer Center module in YaST.

HTH
Mark

>>> On Friday, 20 February, 2009 at 4:09 PM, in message
<499E8F79.33FD.002C.1 at cco.state.oh.us>, "Michael Glenn"
<MGlenn at cco.state.oh.us> wrote: 
> Hello; it's me again. 
>  
> I'm trying to find a procedure for switching existing SLE machines
from  
> online registration and update to our new in-house SMT server. Can
someone  
> give me a clue?  
>  
> Thanks. 
>  
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From Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee  Sun Feb 22 09:37:38 2009
From: Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee (Alar Pandis)
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 11:37:38 +0200
Subject: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contactevery
	24 hours
In-Reply-To: <00c301c991df$68d9f9a0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee>
References: <00c301c991df$68d9f9a0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee>
Message-ID: <00c601c994d1$3360afe0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee>

Hi again!
Still. I'd reinstall SP8 and it hold on ... almost 36 hours and ... lost
contact again!
Loaded (from console) is just dhcp and DNS. Could it be NDS-related!? I
can't see any memory lost, but may be I didn't look the right place!?
Any further ideas?
More thanks, Alar.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:42 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses
contactevery 24 hours

Hi again and thanks James!
I'm agree -- this our NW 5.1 with BM 3.6 on top of it has done very good
job, indeed! But now I'm thinking replace it with special firewall device
like NSA 2400 from Sonicwall etc. I'm not sure. But, anyway, I can't do that
in middle of working period, may be at summer or so. If something with this
server more bad does not happen, I hope not.
I'll wait until server does next unplanned stop as last day I'd removed from
autoexec some SSL and FTP components still loaded with no use and then try
to reinstall SP8.
More thanks, Alar.

>>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Feb 18 14:29:09 GMT
2009 >>>
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----

Yes.  Also, pay attention to any post sp8 updates that may have been
applied.  There may be some TCP updates since the original patch, so you
want to make sure everything matches afterward.

FYI - I'm still running both of my public DNS servers, with BM, on NW65sp8.
I've had these servers (workstations, actually) running for over 7 years,
and I need to update the hardware and replace then with linux servers, but
they have been so rock solid, I hate to touch them.

-jt
 

James Taylor
The East Cobb Group, Inc.
678-697-9420
james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com
http://www.eastcobbgroup.com




 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 4:16 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact
every 24 hours

Hi again and thanks!
Well, that's something!
So, I just run SP8 again as I did it before? Probably I must change tcpip
later back as it is for BM.
More thanks, Alar.

>>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Feb 18 13:43:31 GMT
2009 <<<


Since this started occurring without any know related event, it may be an
instance of file corruption somewhere.  I have had strange, intermittent
problems with no obvious cause that I have cured by reinstalling the latest
support pack.  It replaces a very large percentage of system files, so there
is a good chance that, if there is a corrupted file, it will be replaced.
It is a bit of a shotgun approach, but it doesn't usually take long and
often works.

-jt 
 

James Taylor
The East Cobb Group, Inc.
678-697-9420
james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com
http://www.eastcobbgroup.com

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 12:58 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact
every 24 hours

Hi!
As no reply for this, I little bit rephrase my question! As no BM stuff is
loaded anymore I wonder where to look when NetWare 5.1 SP8 start act as
described below?! (Well, it start act so being loaded also with BM stuff.)
This machine is first between outside world. Almost nothing is loaded, just
NAT and filtering as it still acts like firewall.
And ... 24 hours and connection is broken, restart and again 24 hours.
Any ideas?
More thanks, Alar.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:37 AM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours

Hi again!
24 hours and it looses all network connectivity and need restart. Sunday
morning I'd replace all memory pieces and add twice as much memory. Also did
clean it inside, little bit dusty. Nothing helps.
Right now I see that directory cache buffers is by 34 over minimum 1700, but
last time when I saw same and restart machine it decrease to 1110 or so.
I have on server console just console, timesync debug screen, named,
dhcpsrvr debug screen, novell ssl server handshake screen and monitor.
Usually I have started brdsrv and inetcfg and filtcfg, nothing more.
What I'd when proxy start to show on client browsers memory error.
I'd add three add ip addresses (in autoexec) to allow direct connection
between outside and inside worlds for one server and two as for future.
Removed from autoexec tftp start, we don't use it anymore. And ... nothing
more.
Any ideas?
More thanks,
Alar. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 3:49 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours

Hi!
BM 3.6 SP2a, NW 5.1 SP8. Started last Monday our BM server start to behave
oddly. First we noticed that internet access via BM proxy start show "Status
: 500 Internal Server Error -- Description : Novell Proxy Memory Allocation
error". After I'd restart server (change almost nothing, add few NAT
addresses I have planned, this requires restart) it did work almost exactly
24 hours and ... we did lost connection to it. So few days. Exactly 24
hours. On server side it did work (console was ok) and I could note Monitor
info etc., but on restart attempt from console it didn't restart - console
hung -, but in other way was accessible for open programs from console. I
have to push the button. And ... 24 and same. It did work 310 days before
that and years before that wo any major problems.
Any ideas to start for looking some numbers from console. I tried, but for
me it shows almost ... normal. Didn't start brdsrv (incl. proxy) anymore and
same happen, few hours later than 24 hours running.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
More thanks, Alar.
See also threads
http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-prox
ies/359814-novell-proxy-memory-allocation-error.html
http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-inst
all-setup/360651-bm-3-6-looses-access-every-24-hours-so.html






From Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee  Sun Feb 22 10:07:09 2009
From: Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee (Alar Pandis)
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 12:07:09 +0200
Subject: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contactevery
	24 hours
References: <00c301c991df$68d9f9a0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> 
Message-ID: <00c701c994d5$53520980$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee>

Perhaps I must replace a hard disk? Could there be problems NetWare can't
recognize? I mean, show errors? No error appear during copying all files
from this disk, for backup.
Alar.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 11:38 AM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses
contactevery 24 hours

Hi again!
Still. I'd reinstall SP8 and it hold on ... almost 36 hours and ... lost
contact again!
Loaded (from console) is just dhcp and DNS. Could it be NDS-related!? I
can't see any memory lost, but may be I didn't look the right place!?
Any further ideas?
More thanks, Alar.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:42 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses
contactevery 24 hours

Hi again and thanks James!
I'm agree -- this our NW 5.1 with BM 3.6 on top of it has done very good
job, indeed! But now I'm thinking replace it with special firewall device
like NSA 2400 from Sonicwall etc. I'm not sure. But, anyway, I can't do that
in middle of working period, may be at summer or so. If something with this
server more bad does not happen, I hope not.
I'll wait until server does next unplanned stop as last day I'd removed from
autoexec some SSL and FTP components still loaded with no use and then try
to reinstall SP8.
More thanks, Alar.

>>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Feb 18 14:29:09 GMT
2009 >>>
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----

Yes.  Also, pay attention to any post sp8 updates that may have been
applied.  There may be some TCP updates since the original patch, so you
want to make sure everything matches afterward.

FYI - I'm still running both of my public DNS servers, with BM, on NW65sp8.
I've had these servers (workstations, actually) running for over 7 years,
and I need to update the hardware and replace then with linux servers, but
they have been so rock solid, I hate to touch them.

-jt
 

James Taylor
The East Cobb Group, Inc.
678-697-9420
james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com
http://www.eastcobbgroup.com




 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 4:16 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact
every 24 hours

Hi again and thanks!
Well, that's something!
So, I just run SP8 again as I did it before? Probably I must change tcpip
later back as it is for BM.
More thanks, Alar.

>>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Feb 18 13:43:31 GMT
2009 <<<


Since this started occurring without any know related event, it may be an
instance of file corruption somewhere.  I have had strange, intermittent
problems with no obvious cause that I have cured by reinstalling the latest
support pack.  It replaces a very large percentage of system files, so there
is a good chance that, if there is a corrupted file, it will be replaced.
It is a bit of a shotgun approach, but it doesn't usually take long and
often works.

-jt 
 

James Taylor
The East Cobb Group, Inc.
678-697-9420
james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com
http://www.eastcobbgroup.com

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 12:58 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact
every 24 hours

Hi!
As no reply for this, I little bit rephrase my question! As no BM stuff is
loaded anymore I wonder where to look when NetWare 5.1 SP8 start act as
described below?! (Well, it start act so being loaded also with BM stuff.)
This machine is first between outside world. Almost nothing is loaded, just
NAT and filtering as it still acts like firewall.
And ... 24 hours and connection is broken, restart and again 24 hours.
Any ideas?
More thanks, Alar.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:37 AM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours

Hi again!
24 hours and it looses all network connectivity and need restart. Sunday
morning I'd replace all memory pieces and add twice as much memory. Also did
clean it inside, little bit dusty. Nothing helps.
Right now I see that directory cache buffers is by 34 over minimum 1700, but
last time when I saw same and restart machine it decrease to 1110 or so.
I have on server console just console, timesync debug screen, named,
dhcpsrvr debug screen, novell ssl server handshake screen and monitor.
Usually I have started brdsrv and inetcfg and filtcfg, nothing more.
What I'd when proxy start to show on client browsers memory error.
I'd add three add ip addresses (in autoexec) to allow direct connection
between outside and inside worlds for one server and two as for future.
Removed from autoexec tftp start, we don't use it anymore. And ... nothing
more.
Any ideas?
More thanks,
Alar. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 3:49 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours

Hi!
BM 3.6 SP2a, NW 5.1 SP8. Started last Monday our BM server start to behave
oddly. First we noticed that internet access via BM proxy start show "Status
: 500 Internal Server Error -- Description : Novell Proxy Memory Allocation
error". After I'd restart server (change almost nothing, add few NAT
addresses I have planned, this requires restart) it did work almost exactly
24 hours and ... we did lost connection to it. So few days. Exactly 24
hours. On server side it did work (console was ok) and I could note Monitor
info etc., but on restart attempt from console it didn't restart - console
hung -, but in other way was accessible for open programs from console. I
have to push the button. And ... 24 and same. It did work 310 days before
that and years before that wo any major problems.
Any ideas to start for looking some numbers from console. I tried, but for
me it shows almost ... normal. Didn't start brdsrv (incl. proxy) anymore and
same happen, few hours later than 24 hours running.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
More thanks, Alar.
See also threads
http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-prox
ies/359814-novell-proxy-memory-allocation-error.html
http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-inst
all-setup/360651-bm-3-6-looses-access-every-24-hours-so.html






From MollardM at mbc.qld.edu.au  Mon Feb 23 02:59:33 2009
From: MollardM at mbc.qld.edu.au (Michael Mollard)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:59:33 +1000
Subject: Workstation Management
Message-ID: <49A29DB5.E927.0018.0@mbc.qld.edu.au>

Hi all,
This may be a silly question, but I'm after input on how other network administrators manage hundreds (or thousands) of PCs in their eDir networks.

Here's the background.
NW6.5SP7 / eDir 8.7 / ZEN7SP1
800+ Windows XPSP3 desktops/laptops

We use Ghost to deploy images, and I am slowly moving towards static IP addresses, just to try and manage the 800 or so PCs we have.  I use iPrint and workstation groups to push printers to student labs.  My issue is with the ZWSREG and naming of PCs in eDir.  Since we use Ghost (no sysprep here) we deploy standard builds, and the names of the PCs are all identical.  Assuming synamic DHCP addressing is used elsewhere, how do you know where a PC is, and what groups it should belong to?
I currently use static DHCP addresses, WSName utility, and reverse DNS to setup naming, but even that is a clunky approach.

We reimage at least once every year, sometimes more frequently.

I have heard 'just go to ZEN Imaging to solve all of this', but that is not an immediate option.

I'm interested in how others manage it.  I appreciate any responses.



Michael Mollard
Network Administrator
Moreton Bay College
mollardm at mbc.qld.edu.au
http://www.mbc.qld.edu.au
Ph: (Direct) 07 3907 5712 / (Mob) 0417 631 801 
Fax: 07 3390 8919 ( http://www.mbc.qld.edu.au )


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From jbchristensen at gmail.com  Mon Feb 23 03:51:53 2009
From: jbchristensen at gmail.com (Jon Christensen)
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 20:51:53 -0700
Subject: Workstation Management
In-Reply-To: <49A29DB5.E927.0018.0@mbc.qld.edu.au>
References: <49A29DB5.E927.0018.0@mbc.qld.edu.au>
Message-ID: <3b08acaf0902221951v4b452d43pb0641eff23677f04@mail.gmail.com>

We use DRBL to image and another product, DRBL-Winroll to rename the
workstations automatically. You can have it use the MAC address as the name,
a set name with a sequential number or any of several other naming options.
Both are licensed under GNU GPL. The downside is that winroll requires
cygwin & that can eat up quite a bit of hard disk space.
Jon



On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Michael Mollard <MollardM at mbc.qld.edu.au>wrote:

> Hi all,
> This may be a silly question, but I'm after input on how other network
> administrators manage hundreds (or thousands) of PCs in their eDir networks.
>
> Here's the background.
> NW6.5SP7 / eDir 8.7 / ZEN7SP1
> 800+ Windows XPSP3 desktops/laptops
>
> We use Ghost to deploy images, and I am slowly moving towards static IP
> addresses, just to try and manage the 800 or so PCs we have.  I use iPrint
> and workstation groups to push printers to student labs.  My issue is with
> the ZWSREG and naming of PCs in eDir.  Since we use Ghost (no sysprep here)
> we deploy standard builds, and the names of the PCs are all identical.
>  Assuming synamic DHCP addressing is used elsewhere, how do you know where a
> PC is, and what groups it should belong to?
> I currently use static DHCP addresses, WSName utility, and reverse DNS to
> setup naming, but even that is a clunky approach.
>
> We reimage at least once every year, sometimes more frequently.
>
> I have heard 'just go to ZEN Imaging to solve all of this', but that is not
> an immediate option.
>
> I'm interested in how others manage it.  I appreciate any responses.
>
>
>
> Michael Mollard
> Network Administrator
> Moreton Bay College
> mollardm at mbc.qld.edu.au
> http://www.mbc.qld.edu.au
> Ph: (Direct) 07 3907 5712 / (Mob) 0417 631 801
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From MSmith at col-westanglia.ac.uk  Mon Feb 23 08:58:38 2009
From: MSmith at col-westanglia.ac.uk (Martyn Smith)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 08:58:38 -0000
Subject: [novttp] Workstation Management
In-Reply-To: <49A29DB5.E927.0018.0@mbc.qld.edu.au>
Message-ID: <C27A2A1E4D543C438C02411E23A22DF2048F1831@EXCHANGE.col-westanglia.ac.uk>


Zen imaging to deploy desktops
Automatic DHCP for IP addresses registering with DNS (dynamic update).  No static address setup.

First image of a PC asks for machine details - tag number/name/etc based on a script to read the default machine name.  This is then stored in the Zensafe image data by ziswin and is restored on reimage.  As long as the PC isn't moved (as there is manual intervention) we have details of room, tag, etc up to date.  We also have a procedure for moving PCs which includes updating all the tracking info and setting details in Zisedit.


Martyn Smith
IT Network Coordinator
The College of West Anglia 
Tennyson Avenue
Kings Lynn
Norfolk
PE30 2QW

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ddi: 01553 815524
fax: 01553 815394

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-----Original Message-----
From: novttp-bounces at lists.novttp.org [mailto:novttp-bounces at lists.novttp.org] On Behalf Of Michael Mollard
Sent: 23 February 2009 03:00
To: Novell Technology Transfer Partners; Novell LAN Interest Group
Subject: [novttp] Workstation Management

Hi all,
This may be a silly question, but I'm after input on how other network administrators manage hundreds (or thousands) of PCs in their eDir networks.

Here's the background.
NW6.5SP7 / eDir 8.7 / ZEN7SP1
800+ Windows XPSP3 desktops/laptops

We use Ghost to deploy images, and I am slowly moving towards static IP addresses, just to try and manage the 800 or so PCs we have.  I use iPrint and workstation groups to push printers to student labs.  My issue is with the ZWSREG and naming of PCs in eDir.  Since we use Ghost (no sysprep here) we deploy standard builds, and the names of the PCs are all identical.  Assuming synamic DHCP addressing is used elsewhere, how do you know where a PC is, and what groups it should belong to?
I currently use static DHCP addresses, WSName utility, and reverse DNS to setup naming, but even that is a clunky approach.

We reimage at least once every year, sometimes more frequently.

I have heard 'just go to ZEN Imaging to solve all of this', but that is not an immediate option.

I'm interested in how others manage it.  I appreciate any responses.



Michael Mollard
Network Administrator
Moreton Bay College
mollardm at mbc.qld.edu.au
http://www.mbc.qld.edu.au
Ph: (Direct) 07 3907 5712 / (Mob) 0417 631 801 
Fax: 07 3390 8919 ( http://www.mbc.qld.edu.au )


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From RGrein at tpchd.org  Mon Feb 23 17:38:39 2009
From: RGrein at tpchd.org (Randy Grein)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 09:38:39 -0800
Subject: Workstation Management
In-Reply-To: <49A29DB5.E927.0018.0@mbc.qld.edu.au>
References: <49A29DB5.E927.0018.0@mbc.qld.edu.au>
Message-ID: <49A26E9E.8D71.0072.0@tpchd.org>

We WERE using ghost - old version, about 6-7 years old; all workstation imaging was manual - go get the PC, bring it to a dedicated network, image, send it back out...

Moving to Zen 7 I (FINALLY) got permission to get imaging working. (Long story, previous Admins were fighting each other, manager wants Windows, etc). We are having some challenges with the 'legacy' configurations importing correctly, partly due to lack of sysprep use on the old machines, partly due to lack of testing or due diligence in workstation changes since. As a result we have disabled the image safe data location for now and will use sysprep to guarantee clean workstation images - until we get all the legacy junk cleaned up. It's not the ideal solution - in fact, it's a terrible one, but we seem to step on ourselves through lack of planning and not talking to the novell guy (me).

Randy Grein
Sr. Network Engineer


>>> "Michael Mollard" <MollardM at mbc.qld.edu.au> 2/22/2009 6:59 PM >>>
Hi all,
This may be a silly question, but I'm after input on how other network administrators manage hundreds (or thousands) of PCs in their eDir networks.

Here's the background.
NW6.5SP7 / eDir 8.7 / ZEN7SP1
800+ Windows XPSP3 desktops/laptops

We use Ghost to deploy images, and I am slowly moving towards static IP addresses, just to try and manage the 800 or so PCs we have.  I use iPrint and workstation groups to push printers to student labs.  My issue is with the ZWSREG and naming of PCs in eDir.  Since we use Ghost (no sysprep here) we deploy standard builds, and the names of the PCs are all identical.  Assuming synamic DHCP addressing is used elsewhere, how do you know where a PC is, and what groups it should belong to?
I currently use static DHCP addresses, WSName utility, and reverse DNS to setup naming, but even that is a clunky approach.

We reimage at least once every year, sometimes more frequently.

I have heard 'just go to ZEN Imaging to solve all of this', but that is not an immediate option.

I'm interested in how others manage it.  I appreciate any responses.



Michael Mollard
Network Administrator
Moreton Bay College
mollardm at mbc.qld.edu.au 
http://www.mbc.qld.edu.au 
Ph: (Direct) 07 3907 5712 / (Mob) 0417 631 801 
Fax: 07 3390 8919 ( http://www.mbc.qld.edu.au )


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From ml at irmawi.de  Mon Feb 23 19:06:23 2009
From: ml at irmawi.de (Markus Winkler)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 20:06:23 +0100
Subject: Workstation Management
In-Reply-To: <49A29DB5.E927.0018.0@mbc.qld.edu.au>
References: <49A29DB5.E927.0018.0@mbc.qld.edu.au>
Message-ID: <49A2F3AF.3070504@irmawi.de>

On 23.02.2009 03:59 Michael Mollard wrote:
> 
> I'm interested in how others manage it.  I appreciate any responses.

I want to share this link I received today:
http://www.opsi.org/features/

"opsi is a Desktop Management System for Windows workstations based on
Linux servers."

Here you find some details about OS deployment:
http://www.opsi.org/automatic_os_installation/details

I don't have experiences with it - as I said this is new for me. But
perhaps you're interested in. I'll try it in any case.

Regards,
Markus

From Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee  Tue Feb 24 10:47:02 2009
From: Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee (Alar Pandis)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 12:47:02 +0200
Subject: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contactevery
	24 hours
References: <00c301c991df$68d9f9a0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee>  
Message-ID: <007101c9966d$3a408b80$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee>

Hi again!
Did change hard disk and also power supply! But ... same problem.
Interesting that after re(over)installing SP8 this time cycle did change
from approximately from 24-25 hours to 34-35 hours!
I'm lost!
More thanks, Alar.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 12:07 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses
contactevery 24 hours

Perhaps I must replace a hard disk? Could there be problems NetWare can't
recognize? I mean, show errors? No error appear during copying all files
from this disk, for backup.
Alar.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 11:38 AM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses
contactevery 24 hours

Hi again!
Still. I'd reinstall SP8 and it hold on ... almost 36 hours and ... lost
contact again!
Loaded (from console) is just dhcp and DNS. Could it be NDS-related!? I
can't see any memory lost, but may be I didn't look the right place!?
Any further ideas?
More thanks, Alar.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:42 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses
contactevery 24 hours

Hi again and thanks James!
I'm agree -- this our NW 5.1 with BM 3.6 on top of it has done very good
job, indeed! But now I'm thinking replace it with special firewall device
like NSA 2400 from Sonicwall etc. I'm not sure. But, anyway, I can't do that
in middle of working period, may be at summer or so. If something with this
server more bad does not happen, I hope not.
I'll wait until server does next unplanned stop as last day I'd removed from
autoexec some SSL and FTP components still loaded with no use and then try
to reinstall SP8.
More thanks, Alar.

>>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Feb 18 14:29:09 GMT
2009 >>>
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----

Yes.  Also, pay attention to any post sp8 updates that may have been
applied.  There may be some TCP updates since the original patch, so you
want to make sure everything matches afterward.

FYI - I'm still running both of my public DNS servers, with BM, on NW65sp8.
I've had these servers (workstations, actually) running for over 7 years,
and I need to update the hardware and replace then with linux servers, but
they have been so rock solid, I hate to touch them.

-jt
 

James Taylor
The East Cobb Group, Inc.
678-697-9420
james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com
http://www.eastcobbgroup.com




 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 4:16 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact
every 24 hours

Hi again and thanks!
Well, that's something!
So, I just run SP8 again as I did it before? Probably I must change tcpip
later back as it is for BM.
More thanks, Alar.

>>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Feb 18 13:43:31 GMT
2009 <<<


Since this started occurring without any know related event, it may be an
instance of file corruption somewhere.  I have had strange, intermittent
problems with no obvious cause that I have cured by reinstalling the latest
support pack.  It replaces a very large percentage of system files, so there
is a good chance that, if there is a corrupted file, it will be replaced.
It is a bit of a shotgun approach, but it doesn't usually take long and
often works.

-jt 
 

James Taylor
The East Cobb Group, Inc.
678-697-9420
james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com
http://www.eastcobbgroup.com

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 12:58 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact
every 24 hours

Hi!
As no reply for this, I little bit rephrase my question! As no BM stuff is
loaded anymore I wonder where to look when NetWare 5.1 SP8 start act as
described below?! (Well, it start act so being loaded also with BM stuff.)
This machine is first between outside world. Almost nothing is loaded, just
NAT and filtering as it still acts like firewall.
And ... 24 hours and connection is broken, restart and again 24 hours.
Any ideas?
More thanks, Alar.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:37 AM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours

Hi again!
24 hours and it looses all network connectivity and need restart. Sunday
morning I'd replace all memory pieces and add twice as much memory. Also did
clean it inside, little bit dusty. Nothing helps.
Right now I see that directory cache buffers is by 34 over minimum 1700, but
last time when I saw same and restart machine it decrease to 1110 or so.
I have on server console just console, timesync debug screen, named,
dhcpsrvr debug screen, novell ssl server handshake screen and monitor.
Usually I have started brdsrv and inetcfg and filtcfg, nothing more.
What I'd when proxy start to show on client browsers memory error.
I'd add three add ip addresses (in autoexec) to allow direct connection
between outside and inside worlds for one server and two as for future.
Removed from autoexec tftp start, we don't use it anymore. And ... nothing
more.
Any ideas?
More thanks,
Alar. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 3:49 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours

Hi!
BM 3.6 SP2a, NW 5.1 SP8. Started last Monday our BM server start to behave
oddly. First we noticed that internet access via BM proxy start show "Status
: 500 Internal Server Error -- Description : Novell Proxy Memory Allocation
error". After I'd restart server (change almost nothing, add few NAT
addresses I have planned, this requires restart) it did work almost exactly
24 hours and ... we did lost connection to it. So few days. Exactly 24
hours. On server side it did work (console was ok) and I could note Monitor
info etc., but on restart attempt from console it didn't restart - console
hung -, but in other way was accessible for open programs from console. I
have to push the button. And ... 24 and same. It did work 310 days before
that and years before that wo any major problems.
Any ideas to start for looking some numbers from console. I tried, but for
me it shows almost ... normal. Didn't start brdsrv (incl. proxy) anymore and
same happen, few hours later than 24 hours running.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
More thanks, Alar.
See also threads
http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-prox
ies/359814-novell-proxy-memory-allocation-error.html
http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-inst
all-setup/360651-bm-3-6-looses-access-every-24-hours-so.html






From mroberts at hrmc.org  Tue Feb 24 16:24:10 2009
From: mroberts at hrmc.org (Michael Roberts)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 11:24:10 -0500
Subject: Cluster Service Pack Question
Message-ID: <49A3D8DA.9405.00C2.0@hrmc.org>

Quick question, hopefully simple to answer.  It looks like I have to apply SP8 to my 2 node, NetWare 6.5 SP7 cluster.  I know in the old days of NetWare 6.0, it was a requirement that both nodes be of the same SP level, but from TIDs I have found, it appears this is no longer the case.
 
So my question is, can I upgrade one of the 2 nodes to SP8, reboot it, let it join the cluster, then move the resources from the other server and upgrade it to SP8?  Effectively having no downtime for end-users?
 
Michael Roberts, MCNE, MCSE, CCA
Director of Network Services
Consolidated Health Systems
Highlands Regional Medical Center
mroberts at hrmc.org

From bbrush at gmail.com  Tue Feb 24 16:34:05 2009
From: bbrush at gmail.com (Bill Brush)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 10:34:05 -0600
Subject: Cluster Service Pack Question
In-Reply-To: <49A3D8DA.9405.00C2.0@hrmc.org>
References: <49A3D8DA.9405.00C2.0@hrmc.org>
Message-ID: <167f4090902240834r3f9f0d88ja623bbc43cdb4549@mail.gmail.com>

That's what I always do.  Works great.

On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Michael Roberts <mroberts at hrmc.org> wrote:
> Quick question, hopefully simple to answer. ?It looks like I have to apply SP8 to my 2 node, NetWare 6.5 SP7 cluster. ?I know in the old days of NetWare 6.0, it was a requirement that both nodes be of the same SP level, but from TIDs I have found, it appears this is no longer the case.
>
> So my question is, can I upgrade one of the 2 nodes to SP8, reboot it, let it join the cluster, then move the resources from the other server and upgrade it to SP8? ?Effectively having no downtime for end-users?
>

From joea at j4computers.com  Tue Feb 24 16:35:17 2009
From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 11:35:17 -0500
Subject: Cluster Service Pack Question
Message-ID: <49A3D6C8020000850005F690@FS-LIN-OES>

That is basically how we have done it.  Granted, all of  our clusters are now Linux. . . 
 
Node to be patched - leave cluster
Update
Rejoin cluster,
Offline resouce(s)
Online resource(s) to updated node.
(that seems to be more reliable than cluster migrate)
When happy, cluster leave on idle node,
update 
rejoin cluster.
 
Paying close attention to any caveats in in the SP readme/install instructions before hand.
 
joe a.

>>> "Michael Roberts" <mroberts at hrmc.org> 02/24/09 11:06 AM >>> 
Quick question, hopefully simple to answer. It looks like I have to apply SP8 to my 2 node, NetWare 6.5 SP7 cluster. I know in the old days of NetWare 6.0, it was a requirement that both nodes be of the same SP level, but from TIDs I have found, it appears this is no longer the case. 

So my question is, can I upgrade one of the 2 nodes to SP8, reboot it, let it join the cluster, then move the resources from the other server and upgrade it to SP8? Effectively having no downtime for end-users? 

Michael Roberts, MCNE, MCSE, CCA 
Director of Network Services 
Consolidated Health Systems 
Highlands Regional Medical Center 
mroberts at hrmc.org 
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From Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee  Thu Feb 26 11:08:03 2009
From: Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee (Alar Pandis)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 13:08:03 +0200
Subject: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact
	every 24 hours
References: <00c301c991df$68d9f9a0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee>   
Message-ID: <00b601c99802$7eb7efb0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee>

Hi again with still same problem!
I have from outside network two ping addresses -- server itself and one
email server behind. First start failed ping to email server, ping to server
from outside and inside failed some minute(s) after that. And then console
from server does work, but ... restart from console not. No error messages
or whatsoever. After restart server work ok some 24-25 hours and same happen
again.
Yesterday we changed from one outside line to another, but probably problem
lies not there.
Alar.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:47 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses
contactevery 24 hours

Hi again!
Did change hard disk and also power supply! But ... same problem.
Interesting that after re(over)installing SP8 this time cycle did change
from approximately from 24-25 hours to 34-35 hours!
I'm lost!
More thanks, Alar.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 12:07 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses
contactevery 24 hours

Perhaps I must replace a hard disk? Could there be problems NetWare can't
recognize? I mean, show errors? No error appear during copying all files
from this disk, for backup.
Alar.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 11:38 AM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses
contactevery 24 hours

Hi again!
Still. I'd reinstall SP8 and it hold on ... almost 36 hours and ... lost
contact again!
Loaded (from console) is just dhcp and DNS. Could it be NDS-related!? I
can't see any memory lost, but may be I didn't look the right place!?
Any further ideas?
More thanks, Alar.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:42 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses
contactevery 24 hours

Hi again and thanks James!
I'm agree -- this our NW 5.1 with BM 3.6 on top of it has done very good
job, indeed! But now I'm thinking replace it with special firewall device
like NSA 2400 from Sonicwall etc. I'm not sure. But, anyway, I can't do that
in middle of working period, may be at summer or so. If something with this
server more bad does not happen, I hope not.
I'll wait until server does next unplanned stop as last day I'd removed from
autoexec some SSL and FTP components still loaded with no use and then try
to reinstall SP8.
More thanks, Alar.

>>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Feb 18 14:29:09 GMT
2009 >>>
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----

Yes.  Also, pay attention to any post sp8 updates that may have been
applied.  There may be some TCP updates since the original patch, so you
want to make sure everything matches afterward.

FYI - I'm still running both of my public DNS servers, with BM, on NW65sp8.
I've had these servers (workstations, actually) running for over 7 years,
and I need to update the hardware and replace then with linux servers, but
they have been so rock solid, I hate to touch them.

-jt
 

James Taylor
The East Cobb Group, Inc.
678-697-9420
james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com
http://www.eastcobbgroup.com




 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 4:16 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact
every 24 hours

Hi again and thanks!
Well, that's something!
So, I just run SP8 again as I did it before? Probably I must change tcpip
later back as it is for BM.
More thanks, Alar.

>>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Feb 18 13:43:31 GMT
2009 <<<


Since this started occurring without any know related event, it may be an
instance of file corruption somewhere.  I have had strange, intermittent
problems with no obvious cause that I have cured by reinstalling the latest
support pack.  It replaces a very large percentage of system files, so there
is a good chance that, if there is a corrupted file, it will be replaced.
It is a bit of a shotgun approach, but it doesn't usually take long and
often works.

-jt 
 

James Taylor
The East Cobb Group, Inc.
678-697-9420
james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com
http://www.eastcobbgroup.com

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 12:58 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact
every 24 hours

Hi!
As no reply for this, I little bit rephrase my question! As no BM stuff is
loaded anymore I wonder where to look when NetWare 5.1 SP8 start act as
described below?! (Well, it start act so being loaded also with BM stuff.)
This machine is first between outside world. Almost nothing is loaded, just
NAT and filtering as it still acts like firewall.
And ... 24 hours and connection is broken, restart and again 24 hours.
Any ideas?
More thanks, Alar.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:37 AM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours

Hi again!
24 hours and it looses all network connectivity and need restart. Sunday
morning I'd replace all memory pieces and add twice as much memory. Also did
clean it inside, little bit dusty. Nothing helps.
Right now I see that directory cache buffers is by 34 over minimum 1700, but
last time when I saw same and restart machine it decrease to 1110 or so.
I have on server console just console, timesync debug screen, named,
dhcpsrvr debug screen, novell ssl server handshake screen and monitor.
Usually I have started brdsrv and inetcfg and filtcfg, nothing more.
What I'd when proxy start to show on client browsers memory error.
I'd add three add ip addresses (in autoexec) to allow direct connection
between outside and inside worlds for one server and two as for future.
Removed from autoexec tftp start, we don't use it anymore. And ... nothing
more.
Any ideas?
More thanks,
Alar. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 3:49 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours

Hi!
BM 3.6 SP2a, NW 5.1 SP8. Started last Monday our BM server start to behave
oddly. First we noticed that internet access via BM proxy start show "Status
: 500 Internal Server Error -- Description : Novell Proxy Memory Allocation
error". After I'd restart server (change almost nothing, add few NAT
addresses I have planned, this requires restart) it did work almost exactly
24 hours and ... we did lost connection to it. So few days. Exactly 24
hours. On server side it did work (console was ok) and I could note Monitor
info etc., but on restart attempt from console it didn't restart - console
hung -, but in other way was accessible for open programs from console. I
have to push the button. And ... 24 and same. It did work 310 days before
that and years before that wo any major problems.
Any ideas to start for looking some numbers from console. I tried, but for
me it shows almost ... normal. Didn't start brdsrv (incl. proxy) anymore and
same happen, few hours later than 24 hours running.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
More thanks, Alar.
See also threads
http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-prox
ies/359814-novell-proxy-memory-allocation-error.html
http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-inst
all-setup/360651-bm-3-6-looses-access-every-24-hours-so.html






From alandpearson at yahoo.com  Thu Feb 26 13:15:03 2009
From: alandpearson at yahoo.com (Alan Pearson)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 13:15:03 +0000
Subject: Kablink/Novell T+C - employee directory
In-Reply-To: <167f4090902030832s190f80a6h2fc8f9d1e7019b7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20090203110037.AE510BE407B@ws1-9.us4.outblaze.com>
	<11527.88.211.54.85.1233671935.squirrel@83.67.10.8>
	<167f4090902030832s190f80a6h2fc8f9d1e7019b7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ED723E60-FE7F-4CE7-A976-65B5F1C3D674@yahoo.com>

Hi,

What does the tomcat & apache logs say ?

Cheers
Alan


On 3 Feb 2009, at 16:32, Bill Brush wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Alan Pearson  
> <alandpearson at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> I wrote a cool solution how to get eGuide working on OES2, may be  
>> of some
>> use :
>>
>> http://www.novell.com/communities/node/2793/adding-eguide-oes1-oes2
>> --
>
>
> These instructions look really good, but upon trying them I don't get
> a functional eguide page, I just get a blank white page.  The
> redirection is working because if put in the //host/eGuide/ URL it
> redirects me to //host/eGuide/servlet/eGuide, but I don't get the
> opportunity to login or see anything other than a blank white page.
>
> Any ideas?  I'm not a Tomcat guru so any time I have to start chasing
> down something with it I rapidly leave my depth.
>
> Thanks to anyone who can give me some pointers on this.
>
> Bill
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From RGrein at tpchd.org  Thu Feb 26 15:31:29 2009
From: RGrein at tpchd.org (Randy Grein)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 07:31:29 -0800
Subject: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses
	contactevery 24 hours
In-Reply-To: <00b601c99802$7eb7efb0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee>
References: <00c301c991df$68d9f9a0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee>
	<00b601c99802$7eb7efb0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee>
Message-ID: <49A64551.8D71.0072.0@tpchd.org>

One bare possibility occurs to me - have you cleared the proxy cache on this server yet? 

Randy Grein
Sr. Network Engineer


>>> "Alar Pandis" <Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee> 2/26/2009 3:08 AM >>>
Hi again with still same problem!
I have from outside network two ping addresses -- server itself and one
email server behind. First start failed ping to email server, ping to server
from outside and inside failed some minute(s) after that. And then console
from server does work, but ... restart from console not. No error messages
or whatsoever. After restart server work ok some 24-25 hours and same happen
again.
Yesterday we changed from one outside line to another, but probably problem
lies not there.
Alar.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:47 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses
contactevery 24 hours

Hi again!
Did change hard disk and also power supply! But ... same problem.
Interesting that after re(over)installing SP8 this time cycle did change
from approximately from 24-25 hours to 34-35 hours!
I'm lost!
More thanks, Alar.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 12:07 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses
contactevery 24 hours

Perhaps I must replace a hard disk? Could there be problems NetWare can't
recognize? I mean, show errors? No error appear during copying all files
from this disk, for backup.
Alar.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 11:38 AM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses
contactevery 24 hours

Hi again!
Still. I'd reinstall SP8 and it hold on ... almost 36 hours and ... lost
contact again!
Loaded (from console) is just dhcp and DNS. Could it be NDS-related!? I
can't see any memory lost, but may be I didn't look the right place!?
Any further ideas?
More thanks, Alar.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:42 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses
contactevery 24 hours

Hi again and thanks James!
I'm agree -- this our NW 5.1 with BM 3.6 on top of it has done very good
job, indeed! But now I'm thinking replace it with special firewall device
like NSA 2400 from Sonicwall etc. I'm not sure. But, anyway, I can't do that
in middle of working period, may be at summer or so. If something with this
server more bad does not happen, I hope not.
I'll wait until server does next unplanned stop as last day I'd removed from
autoexec some SSL and FTP components still loaded with no use and then try
to reinstall SP8.
More thanks, Alar.

>>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Feb 18 14:29:09 GMT
2009 >>>
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----

Yes.  Also, pay attention to any post sp8 updates that may have been
applied.  There may be some TCP updates since the original patch, so you
want to make sure everything matches afterward.

FYI - I'm still running both of my public DNS servers, with BM, on NW65sp8.
I've had these servers (workstations, actually) running for over 7 years,
and I need to update the hardware and replace then with linux servers, but
they have been so rock solid, I hate to touch them.

-jt
 

James Taylor
The East Cobb Group, Inc.
678-697-9420
james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com
http://www.eastcobbgroup.com 




 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 4:16 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact
every 24 hours

Hi again and thanks!
Well, that's something!
So, I just run SP8 again as I did it before? Probably I must change tcpip
later back as it is for BM.
More thanks, Alar.

>>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Feb 18 13:43:31 GMT
2009 <<<


Since this started occurring without any know related event, it may be an
instance of file corruption somewhere.  I have had strange, intermittent
problems with no obvious cause that I have cured by reinstalling the latest
support pack.  It replaces a very large percentage of system files, so there
is a good chance that, if there is a corrupted file, it will be replaced.
It is a bit of a shotgun approach, but it doesn't usually take long and
often works.

-jt 
 

James Taylor
The East Cobb Group, Inc.
678-697-9420
james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com
http://www.eastcobbgroup.com 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 12:58 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact
every 24 hours

Hi!
As no reply for this, I little bit rephrase my question! As no BM stuff is
loaded anymore I wonder where to look when NetWare 5.1 SP8 start act as
described below?! (Well, it start act so being loaded also with BM stuff.)
This machine is first between outside world. Almost nothing is loaded, just
NAT and filtering as it still acts like firewall.
And ... 24 hours and connection is broken, restart and again 24 hours.
Any ideas?
More thanks, Alar.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:37 AM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours

Hi again!
24 hours and it looses all network connectivity and need restart. Sunday
morning I'd replace all memory pieces and add twice as much memory. Also did
clean it inside, little bit dusty. Nothing helps.
Right now I see that directory cache buffers is by 34 over minimum 1700, but
last time when I saw same and restart machine it decrease to 1110 or so.
I have on server console just console, timesync debug screen, named,
dhcpsrvr debug screen, novell ssl server handshake screen and monitor.
Usually I have started brdsrv and inetcfg and filtcfg, nothing more.
What I'd when proxy start to show on client browsers memory error.
I'd add three add ip addresses (in autoexec) to allow direct connection
between outside and inside worlds for one server and two as for future.
Removed from autoexec tftp start, we don't use it anymore. And ... nothing
more.
Any ideas?
More thanks,
Alar. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 3:49 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours

Hi!
BM 3.6 SP2a, NW 5.1 SP8. Started last Monday our BM server start to behave
oddly. First we noticed that internet access via BM proxy start show "Status
: 500 Internal Server Error -- Description : Novell Proxy Memory Allocation
error". After I'd restart server (change almost nothing, add few NAT
addresses I have planned, this requires restart) it did work almost exactly
24 hours and ... we did lost connection to it. So few days. Exactly 24
hours. On server side it did work (console was ok) and I could note Monitor
info etc., but on restart attempt from console it didn't restart - console
hung -, but in other way was accessible for open programs from console. I
have to push the button. And ... 24 and same. It did work 310 days before
that and years before that wo any major problems.
Any ideas to start for looking some numbers from console. I tried, but for
me it shows almost ... normal. Didn't start brdsrv (incl. proxy) anymore and
same happen, few hours later than 24 hours running.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
More thanks, Alar.
See also threads
http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-prox 
ies/359814-novell-proxy-memory-allocation-error.html
http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-inst 
all-setup/360651-bm-3-6-looses-access-every-24-hours-so.html





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From Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee  Thu Feb 26 15:48:21 2009
From: Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee (Alar Pandis)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:48:21 +0200
Subject: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact
	every 24 hours
References: <00c301c991df$68d9f9a0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee>    
Message-ID: <014201c99829$a752c3b0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee>

Hi and thanks Randy!

I'd load proxy with cc option on the second day, I think, when this start to
happen ... some two weeks and few days ago. Right now proxy isn't loaded for
week or so. In console log I see that just some bordermanager audit-nlm is
autoloaded.

Just for a case I add some parameters. May be You see something I don't.
Machine is Pentium III 450 MHz (Intel motherboard), 3x256 Mb RAM (was 3x128
when this start to happen). Disk is 50 GB (sys, cache and cache1). Five 3Com
NIC's. I'd replace memory, harddisk and power-supply.

Original cache buffers 195891
Total cache buffers 162941
Long term cache hits (server up 9 hours) 67% and rising
Packet receive buffers 5000 (min 5000, max 10000)
Directory cache buffers 2051 (min 2000, max 5000)

(When I normally restart server Directory cache buffers is about 1500+, but
when it is restarted by force then it show 2000+.)

Allocated memory pool 41529344 5%
Cache buffer memory 667406336 83%
Cache movable memory 0 0%
Cache non-movable memory 167936 0
Code and data memory 93265920 12%
Total server work memory 804845568 100%

Tuneup mostly with settings from Craig Johnson.

Set Maximum Packet Receive Buffers = 10000
Set Minimum Packet Receive Buffers = 5000
Set New Packet Receive Buffer Wait Time = 0.1 sec
Set Maximum Interrupt Events = 50
Set Garbage Collection Interval = 5 min
Set Read Ahead Enabled = on
Set Maximum Concurrent Disk Cache Writes = 750
Set Dirty Disk Cache Delay Time = 0.1 sec
Set Dirty Directory Cache Delay Time = 0.1 sec
Set Maximum Concurrent Directory Cache Writes = 125
Set Directory Cache Allocation Wait Time = 0.1 sec
Set Directory Cache Buffer NonReferenced delay = 30 min
Set Minimum Directory Cache Buffers = 2000
Set Maximum Directory Cache Buffers = 5000
Set Maximum Number of Internal Directory Handles = 500
Set Immediate Purge of Deleted Files = on
Set Enable File Compression = off
Set Maximum File Locks = 100000
Set Enable Hardware Write Back = on
Set Enable Disk Read After Write Verify = off
Set Worker Thread Execute In A Row Count = 15
Set Pseudo Preemption Count = 200
Set Minimum Service Processes = 200
Set Maximum Service Processes = 500

More thanks, Alar.

>>> Randy Grein RGrein at tpchd.org Thu Feb 26 15:31:29 GMT 2009 <<<

One bare possibility occurs to me - have you cleared the proxy cache on this
server yet? 

Randy Grein
Sr. Network Engineer
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 1:08 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact
every 24 hours

Hi again with still same problem!
I have from outside network two ping addresses -- server itself and one
email server behind. First start failed ping to email server, ping to server
from outside and inside failed some minute(s) after that. And then console
from server does work, but ... restart from console not. No error messages
or whatsoever. After restart server work ok some 24-25 hours and same happen
again.
Yesterday we changed from one outside line to another, but probably problem
lies not there.
Alar.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:47 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses
contactevery 24 hours

Hi again!
Did change hard disk and also power supply! But ... same problem.
Interesting that after re(over)installing SP8 this time cycle did change
from approximately from 24-25 hours to 34-35 hours!
I'm lost!
More thanks, Alar.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 12:07 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses
contactevery 24 hours

Perhaps I must replace a hard disk? Could there be problems NetWare can't
recognize? I mean, show errors? No error appear during copying all files
from this disk, for backup.
Alar.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 11:38 AM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses
contactevery 24 hours

Hi again!
Still. I'd reinstall SP8 and it hold on ... almost 36 hours and ... lost
contact again!
Loaded (from console) is just dhcp and DNS. Could it be NDS-related!? I
can't see any memory lost, but may be I didn't look the right place!?
Any further ideas?
More thanks, Alar.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:42 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses
contactevery 24 hours

Hi again and thanks James!
I'm agree -- this our NW 5.1 with BM 3.6 on top of it has done very good
job, indeed! But now I'm thinking replace it with special firewall device
like NSA 2400 from Sonicwall etc. I'm not sure. But, anyway, I can't do that
in middle of working period, may be at summer or so. If something with this
server more bad does not happen, I hope not.
I'll wait until server does next unplanned stop as last day I'd removed from
autoexec some SSL and FTP components still loaded with no use and then try
to reinstall SP8.
More thanks, Alar.

>>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Feb 18 14:29:09 GMT
2009 >>>
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----

Yes.  Also, pay attention to any post sp8 updates that may have been
applied.  There may be some TCP updates since the original patch, so you
want to make sure everything matches afterward.

FYI - I'm still running both of my public DNS servers, with BM, on NW65sp8.
I've had these servers (workstations, actually) running for over 7 years,
and I need to update the hardware and replace then with linux servers, but
they have been so rock solid, I hate to touch them.

-jt
 

James Taylor
The East Cobb Group, Inc.
678-697-9420
james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com
http://www.eastcobbgroup.com




 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 4:16 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact
every 24 hours

Hi again and thanks!
Well, that's something!
So, I just run SP8 again as I did it before? Probably I must change tcpip
later back as it is for BM.
More thanks, Alar.

>>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Feb 18 13:43:31 GMT
2009 <<<


Since this started occurring without any know related event, it may be an
instance of file corruption somewhere.  I have had strange, intermittent
problems with no obvious cause that I have cured by reinstalling the latest
support pack.  It replaces a very large percentage of system files, so there
is a good chance that, if there is a corrupted file, it will be replaced.
It is a bit of a shotgun approach, but it doesn't usually take long and
often works.

-jt 
 

James Taylor
The East Cobb Group, Inc.
678-697-9420
james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com
http://www.eastcobbgroup.com

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 12:58 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact
every 24 hours

Hi!
As no reply for this, I little bit rephrase my question! As no BM stuff is
loaded anymore I wonder where to look when NetWare 5.1 SP8 start act as
described below?! (Well, it start act so being loaded also with BM stuff.)
This machine is first between outside world. Almost nothing is loaded, just
NAT and filtering as it still acts like firewall.
And ... 24 hours and connection is broken, restart and again 24 hours.
Any ideas?
More thanks, Alar.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:37 AM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours

Hi again!
24 hours and it looses all network connectivity and need restart. Sunday
morning I'd replace all memory pieces and add twice as much memory. Also did
clean it inside, little bit dusty. Nothing helps.
Right now I see that directory cache buffers is by 34 over minimum 1700, but
last time when I saw same and restart machine it decrease to 1110 or so.
I have on server console just console, timesync debug screen, named,
dhcpsrvr debug screen, novell ssl server handshake screen and monitor.
Usually I have started brdsrv and inetcfg and filtcfg, nothing more.
What I'd when proxy start to show on client browsers memory error.
I'd add three add ip addresses (in autoexec) to allow direct connection
between outside and inside worlds for one server and two as for future.
Removed from autoexec tftp start, we don't use it anymore. And ... nothing
more.
Any ideas?
More thanks,
Alar. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 3:49 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours

Hi!
BM 3.6 SP2a, NW 5.1 SP8. Started last Monday our BM server start to behave
oddly. First we noticed that internet access via BM proxy start show "Status
: 500 Internal Server Error -- Description : Novell Proxy Memory Allocation
error". After I'd restart server (change almost nothing, add few NAT
addresses I have planned, this requires restart) it did work almost exactly
24 hours and ... we did lost connection to it. So few days. Exactly 24
hours. On server side it did work (console was ok) and I could note Monitor
info etc., but on restart attempt from console it didn't restart - console
hung -, but in other way was accessible for open programs from console. I
have to push the button. And ... 24 and same. It did work 310 days before
that and years before that wo any major problems.
Any ideas to start for looking some numbers from console. I tried, but for
me it shows almost ... normal. Didn't start brdsrv (incl. proxy) anymore and
same happen, few hours later than 24 hours running.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
More thanks, Alar.
See also threads
http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-prox
ies/359814-novell-proxy-memory-allocation-error.html
http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-inst
all-setup/360651-bm-3-6-looses-access-every-24-hours-so.html






From peschmid at mpsomaha.org  Thu Feb 26 15:54:40 2009
From: peschmid at mpsomaha.org (Patrick Schmidt)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 09:54:40 -0600
Subject: ZCM patch
Message-ID: <49A666E1.664C.00E4.0@mpsomaha.org>

Has anyone successfully downloaded and installed the ZCM 10.1.3 patch? I'm not having much luck and I don't want to spend too much time on it if the installation is just flat flawed.

--------------------------------------------------
Patrick Schmidt
Millard Public Schools
Network Support Specialist
(402)715-6278
peschmid at mpsomaha.org 
---------------------------------------------------


From Setienne at enesco.com  Thu Feb 26 16:03:29 2009
From: Setienne at enesco.com (Scott Etienne)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 10:03:29 -0600
Subject: VNC for SLES 10 on RL3
In-Reply-To: <4993D4D1.811E.0072.0@tpchd.org>
References: <49930627.FA88.0022.0@ccsuvt.org>
	<4992E365.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com> <4993DAA9.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>
	<4993D4D1.811E.0072.0@tpchd.org>
Message-ID: <49A668F0.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>

My boss wants to know how he can administer DNS while I am away. He LOVES guis, and I would like to find a way to let him use yast from a VNC session without having to have the gui running on the server.
 
It would be okay if the we had to launch the GUI temporarily but this it would be better if we didn't have to.
 
I once saw someone launch and x-windows session from one linux machine, to remote-control another.
 
Is there an easy way to accomplish this?
 
Thank you,

Scott Etienne
Network Engineer
Enesco, LLC
setienne at enesco.com 

 

From PArnold at uca.edu  Thu Feb 26 16:04:16 2009
From: PArnold at uca.edu (Phillip Arnold)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 10:04:16 -0600
Subject: ZCM patch
In-Reply-To: <49A666E1.664C.00E4.0@mpsomaha.org>
References: <49A666E1.664C.00E4.0@mpsomaha.org>
Message-ID: <49A6691F.A5CB.003A.0@uca.edu>

 I didn't have any problems with it (ZCM installed on Windows Server 2003).


Phil Arnold
University of Central Arkansas


>>> "Patrick Schmidt" <peschmid at mpsomaha.org> 2/26/2009 9:54 AM >>>
Has anyone successfully downloaded and installed the ZCM 10.1.3 patch? I'm not having much luck and I don't want to spend too much time on it if the installation is just flat flawed.

--------------------------------------------------
Patrick Schmidt
Millard Public Schools
Network Support Specialist
(402)715-6278
peschmid at mpsomaha.org 
---------------------------------------------------

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From mrsmith at oconee.k12.ga.us  Thu Feb 26 16:06:37 2009
From: mrsmith at oconee.k12.ga.us (Matt Smith)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 11:06:37 -0500
Subject: VNC for SLES 10 on RL3
In-Reply-To: <49A668F0.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>
References: <49930627.FA88.0022.0@ccsuvt.org>
	<4992E365.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com> <4993DAA9.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>
	<4993D4D1.811E.0072.0@tpchd.org> <49A668F0.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>
Message-ID: <49A677B7.E4C1.0068.0@oconee.k12.ga.us>

>>> On 2/26/2009 at 11:03 AM, in message
<49A668F0.8A77.004D.0 at enesco.com>, "Scott
Etienne" <Setienne at enesco.com> wrote:
> My boss wants to know how he can administer DNS while I am away. He
LOVES 
> guis, and I would like to find a way to let him use yast from a VNC
session 
> without having to have the gui running on the server.
>  
> It would be okay if the we had to launch the GUI temporarily but this
it 
> would be better if we didn't have to.
>  
> I once saw someone launch and x-windows session from one linux
machine, to 
> remote-control another.
>  
> Is there an easy way to accomplish this?
>  
> Thank you,
> 
> Scott Etienne
> Network Engineer
> Enesco, LLC
> setienne at enesco.com 

FreeNX.  It's a free, secure terminal server.  Works fine on SLES, and
allows remote GUI's without the hassle of trying to secure VNC, which
sends passwords in clear-text by default. It's just been easier for me
to set up and use than other secure solutions.

-Matt
-- 

Matt Smith                Network Technology Specialist
Oconee County School System, Oconee County, Georgia
Office of Instruction and Technology       706-769-5685 x1314

From Tim at nds8.co.uk  Thu Feb 26 16:08:29 2009
From: Tim at nds8.co.uk (Tim Heywood)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:08:29 +0000
Subject: VNC for SLES 10 on RL3
In-Reply-To: <49A6BE7D020000BB00012F50@mail2.nds8.com>
References: <49A6BE7D020000BB00012F4D@mail2.nds8.com>
	<49A6BE7D020000BB00012F50@mail2.nds8.com>
Message-ID: <49A6BE7D020000BB00012F50@mail2.nds8.com>

ssh -X user at server

Note the capital X. !!

Then all he would have to type is yast2

T 
-----Original Message-----
From: "Scott Etienne" <Setienne at enesco.com>
To:  <novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk>

Sent: 26/02/2009 16:03:29
Subject: VNC for SLES 10 on RL3

My boss wants to know how he can administer DNS while I am away. He
LOVES guis, and I would like to find a way to let him use yast from a
VNC session without having to have the gui running on the server.
 
It would be okay if the we had to launch the GUI temporarily but this it
would be better if we didn't have to.
 
I once saw someone launch and x-windows session from one linux machine,
to remote-control another.
 
Is there an easy way to accomplish this?
 
Thank you,

Scott Etienne
Network Engineer
Enesco, LLC
setienne at enesco.com 

 
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From cal.frye at oberlin.edu  Thu Feb 26 16:31:24 2009
From: cal.frye at oberlin.edu (Cal Frye)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 11:31:24 -0500
Subject: VNC for SLES 10 on RL3
In-Reply-To: <49A6BE7D020000BB00012F50@mail2.nds8.com>
References: <49A6BE7D020000BB00012F4D@mail2.nds8.com>	<49A6BE7D020000BB00012F50@mail2.nds8.com>
	<49A6BE7D020000BB00012F50@mail2.nds8.com>
Message-ID: <49A6C3DC.8010904@oberlin.edu>

Tim Heywood wrote:
> ssh -X user at server
> 
> Note the capital X. !!
> 
> Then all he would have to type is yast2

Or "yast2 &" to run yast in the background and keep the terminal session open. I often use
this trick to run yast2 and, say, gedit from the same ssh session.

-- 
Celebrating the 200th anniversary of Darwin's birth,
and the 150th anniversary of the publication of the Origin of Species.
-- Cal Frye, Network Administrator, Oberlin College
   Mudd Library, x.56930 -- CIT will NEVER ask you for your password!

   www.calfrye.com,  www.pitalabs.com

"When those who fish can't go to sea, they mend nets. --Book of Runes (Adapted).

From bbrush at gmail.com  Thu Feb 26 16:51:09 2009
From: bbrush at gmail.com (Bill Brush)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 10:51:09 -0600
Subject: Kablink/Novell T+C - employee directory
In-Reply-To: <ED723E60-FE7F-4CE7-A976-65B5F1C3D674@yahoo.com>
References: <20090203110037.AE510BE407B@ws1-9.us4.outblaze.com>
	<11527.88.211.54.85.1233671935.squirrel@83.67.10.8>
	<167f4090902030832s190f80a6h2fc8f9d1e7019b7@mail.gmail.com>
	<ED723E60-FE7F-4CE7-A976-65B5F1C3D674@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <167f4090902260851tc701c1ejdaec7c1b238fb6f0@mail.gmail.com>

Hi guys.

Sorry I haven't responded to this previously, I made the mistake of starting
that project the week before I went on vacation.  Now that I'm back from
vacation a coworker (the guy I turned over the Netware admin duties to) is
out with some new babies, so I'm now dealing with some bouncy cluster nodes
(WTF?) and a misbehaving IDM user app.

Anyway, none of the logs that I've looked at have indicated any issues, but
I haven't checked to see if AppArmor is being overly protective.

Thanks for bearing with me,
Bill


On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 7:15 AM, Alan Pearson <alandpearson at yahoo.com>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> What does the tomcat & apache logs say ?
>
> Cheers
> Alan
>
>
>
> On 3 Feb 2009, at 16:32, Bill Brush wrote:
>
>  On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Alan Pearson <alandpearson at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I wrote a cool solution how to get eGuide working on OES2, may be of some
>>> use :
>>>
>>> http://www.novell.com/communities/node/2793/adding-eguide-oes1-oes2
>>> --
>>>
>>
>>
>> These instructions look really good, but upon trying them I don't get
>> a functional eguide page, I just get a blank white page.  The
>> redirection is working because if put in the //host/eGuide/ URL it
>> redirects me to //host/eGuide/servlet/eGuide, but I don't get the
>> opportunity to login or see anything other than a blank white page.
>>
>> Any ideas?  I'm not a Tomcat guru so any time I have to start chasing
>> down something with it I rapidly leave my depth.
>>
>> Thanks to anyone who can give me some pointers on this.
>>
>> Bill
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From peschmid at mpsomaha.org  Thu Feb 26 17:04:50 2009
From: peschmid at mpsomaha.org (Patrick Schmidt)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 11:04:50 -0600
Subject: ZCM patch
In-Reply-To: <49A6691F.A5CB.003A.0@uca.edu>
References: <49A666E1.664C.00E4.0@mpsomaha.org> <49A6691F.A5CB.003A.0@uca.edu>
Message-ID: <49A67754.664C.00E4.0@mpsomaha.org>

We are Linux. I have heard a few people say that they are having fewer problems with Windows. I'll keep watching that. Thanks for the response. 

--------------------------------------------------
Patrick Schmidt
Millard Public Schools
Network Support Specialist
(402)715-6278
peschmid at mpsomaha.org 
---------------------------------------------------

>>> "Phillip Arnold" <PArnold at uca.edu> 2/26/2009 10:04 AM >>>
I didn't have any problems with it (ZCM installed on Windows Server 2003).


Phil Arnold
University of Central Arkansas


>>> "Patrick Schmidt" <peschmid at mpsomaha.org> 2/26/2009 9:54 AM >>>
Has anyone successfully downloaded and installed the ZCM 10.1.3 patch? I'm not having much luck and I don't want to spend too much time on it if the installation is just flat flawed.

--------------------------------------------------
Patrick Schmidt
Millard Public Schools
Network Support Specialist
(402)715-6278
peschmid at mpsomaha.org 
---------------------------------------------------

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From RGrein at tpchd.org  Thu Feb 26 17:23:37 2009
From: RGrein at tpchd.org (Randy Grein)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 09:23:37 -0800
Subject: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses
	contact every 24 hours
In-Reply-To: <014201c99829$a752c3b0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee>
References: <00c301c991df$68d9f9a0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee>
	<014201c99829$a752c3b0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee>
Message-ID: <49A65F98.8D71.0072.0@tpchd.org>

What jumps out at me is the nonreferenced delay time - 30 minutes is a LONG time. It's been a while since I've had to deal with a traditional volume, but try cutting it back to 30 seconds - you can always bump it back up. I seem to recall some odd things happening with directory cache buffer exhaustion.

Randy Grein
Sr. Network Engineer


>>> "Alar Pandis" <Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee> 2/26/2009 7:48 AM >>>
Hi and thanks Randy!

I'd load proxy with cc option on the second day, I think, when this start to
happen ... some two weeks and few days ago. Right now proxy isn't loaded for
week or so. In console log I see that just some bordermanager audit-nlm is
autoloaded.

Just for a case I add some parameters. May be You see something I don't.
Machine is Pentium III 450 MHz (Intel motherboard), 3x256 Mb RAM (was 3x128
when this start to happen). Disk is 50 GB (sys, cache and cache1). Five 3Com
NIC's. I'd replace memory, harddisk and power-supply.

Original cache buffers 195891
Total cache buffers 162941
Long term cache hits (server up 9 hours) 67% and rising
Packet receive buffers 5000 (min 5000, max 10000)
Directory cache buffers 2051 (min 2000, max 5000)

(When I normally restart server Directory cache buffers is about 1500+, but
when it is restarted by force then it show 2000+.)

Allocated memory pool 41529344 5%
Cache buffer memory 667406336 83%
Cache movable memory 0 0%
Cache non-movable memory 167936 0
Code and data memory 93265920 12%
Total server work memory 804845568 100%

Tuneup mostly with settings from Craig Johnson.

Set Maximum Packet Receive Buffers = 10000
Set Minimum Packet Receive Buffers = 5000
Set New Packet Receive Buffer Wait Time = 0.1 sec
Set Maximum Interrupt Events = 50
Set Garbage Collection Interval = 5 min
Set Read Ahead Enabled = on
Set Maximum Concurrent Disk Cache Writes = 750
Set Dirty Disk Cache Delay Time = 0.1 sec
Set Dirty Directory Cache Delay Time = 0.1 sec
Set Maximum Concurrent Directory Cache Writes = 125
Set Directory Cache Allocation Wait Time = 0.1 sec
Set Directory Cache Buffer NonReferenced delay = 30 min
Set Minimum Directory Cache Buffers = 2000
Set Maximum Directory Cache Buffers = 5000
Set Maximum Number of Internal Directory Handles = 500
Set Immediate Purge of Deleted Files = on
Set Enable File Compression = off
Set Maximum File Locks = 100000
Set Enable Hardware Write Back = on
Set Enable Disk Read After Write Verify = off
Set Worker Thread Execute In A Row Count = 15
Set Pseudo Preemption Count = 200
Set Minimum Service Processes = 200
Set Maximum Service Processes = 500

More thanks, Alar.

>>> Randy Grein RGrein at tpchd.org Thu Feb 26 15:31:29 GMT 2009 <<<

One bare possibility occurs to me - have you cleared the proxy cache on this
server yet? 

Randy Grein
Sr. Network Engineer
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 1:08 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact
every 24 hours

Hi again with still same problem!
I have from outside network two ping addresses -- server itself and one
email server behind. First start failed ping to email server, ping to server
from outside and inside failed some minute(s) after that. And then console
from server does work, but ... restart from console not. No error messages
or whatsoever. After restart server work ok some 24-25 hours and same happen
again.
Yesterday we changed from one outside line to another, but probably problem
lies not there.
Alar.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:47 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses
contactevery 24 hours

Hi again!
Did change hard disk and also power supply! But ... same problem.
Interesting that after re(over)installing SP8 this time cycle did change
from approximately from 24-25 hours to 34-35 hours!
I'm lost!
More thanks, Alar.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 12:07 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses
contactevery 24 hours

Perhaps I must replace a hard disk? Could there be problems NetWare can't
recognize? I mean, show errors? No error appear during copying all files
from this disk, for backup.
Alar.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 11:38 AM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses
contactevery 24 hours

Hi again!
Still. I'd reinstall SP8 and it hold on ... almost 36 hours and ... lost
contact again!
Loaded (from console) is just dhcp and DNS. Could it be NDS-related!? I
can't see any memory lost, but may be I didn't look the right place!?
Any further ideas?
More thanks, Alar.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:42 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses
contactevery 24 hours

Hi again and thanks James!
I'm agree -- this our NW 5.1 with BM 3.6 on top of it has done very good
job, indeed! But now I'm thinking replace it with special firewall device
like NSA 2400 from Sonicwall etc. I'm not sure. But, anyway, I can't do that
in middle of working period, may be at summer or so. If something with this
server more bad does not happen, I hope not.
I'll wait until server does next unplanned stop as last day I'd removed from
autoexec some SSL and FTP components still loaded with no use and then try
to reinstall SP8.
More thanks, Alar.

>>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Feb 18 14:29:09 GMT
2009 >>>
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----

Yes.  Also, pay attention to any post sp8 updates that may have been
applied.  There may be some TCP updates since the original patch, so you
want to make sure everything matches afterward.

FYI - I'm still running both of my public DNS servers, with BM, on NW65sp8.
I've had these servers (workstations, actually) running for over 7 years,
and I need to update the hardware and replace then with linux servers, but
they have been so rock solid, I hate to touch them.

-jt
 

James Taylor
The East Cobb Group, Inc.
678-697-9420
james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com
http://www.eastcobbgroup.com 




 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 4:16 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact
every 24 hours

Hi again and thanks!
Well, that's something!
So, I just run SP8 again as I did it before? Probably I must change tcpip
later back as it is for BM.
More thanks, Alar.

>>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Feb 18 13:43:31 GMT
2009 <<<


Since this started occurring without any know related event, it may be an
instance of file corruption somewhere.  I have had strange, intermittent
problems with no obvious cause that I have cured by reinstalling the latest
support pack.  It replaces a very large percentage of system files, so there
is a good chance that, if there is a corrupted file, it will be replaced.
It is a bit of a shotgun approach, but it doesn't usually take long and
often works.

-jt 
 

James Taylor
The East Cobb Group, Inc.
678-697-9420
james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com
http://www.eastcobbgroup.com 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 12:58 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact
every 24 hours

Hi!
As no reply for this, I little bit rephrase my question! As no BM stuff is
loaded anymore I wonder where to look when NetWare 5.1 SP8 start act as
described below?! (Well, it start act so being loaded also with BM stuff.)
This machine is first between outside world. Almost nothing is loaded, just
NAT and filtering as it still acts like firewall.
And ... 24 hours and connection is broken, restart and again 24 hours.
Any ideas?
More thanks, Alar.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:37 AM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours

Hi again!
24 hours and it looses all network connectivity and need restart. Sunday
morning I'd replace all memory pieces and add twice as much memory. Also did
clean it inside, little bit dusty. Nothing helps.
Right now I see that directory cache buffers is by 34 over minimum 1700, but
last time when I saw same and restart machine it decrease to 1110 or so.
I have on server console just console, timesync debug screen, named,
dhcpsrvr debug screen, novell ssl server handshake screen and monitor.
Usually I have started brdsrv and inetcfg and filtcfg, nothing more.
What I'd when proxy start to show on client browsers memory error.
I'd add three add ip addresses (in autoexec) to allow direct connection
between outside and inside worlds for one server and two as for future.
Removed from autoexec tftp start, we don't use it anymore. And ... nothing
more.
Any ideas?
More thanks,
Alar. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 3:49 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours

Hi!
BM 3.6 SP2a, NW 5.1 SP8. Started last Monday our BM server start to behave
oddly. First we noticed that internet access via BM proxy start show "Status
: 500 Internal Server Error -- Description : Novell Proxy Memory Allocation
error". After I'd restart server (change almost nothing, add few NAT
addresses I have planned, this requires restart) it did work almost exactly
24 hours and ... we did lost connection to it. So few days. Exactly 24
hours. On server side it did work (console was ok) and I could note Monitor
info etc., but on restart attempt from console it didn't restart - console
hung -, but in other way was accessible for open programs from console. I
have to push the button. And ... 24 and same. It did work 310 days before
that and years before that wo any major problems.
Any ideas to start for looking some numbers from console. I tried, but for
me it shows almost ... normal. Didn't start brdsrv (incl. proxy) anymore and
same happen, few hours later than 24 hours running.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
More thanks, Alar.
See also threads
http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-prox 
ies/359814-novell-proxy-memory-allocation-error.html
http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-inst 
all-setup/360651-bm-3-6-looses-access-every-24-hours-so.html





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From mrsmith at oconee.k12.ga.us  Thu Feb 26 17:42:26 2009
From: mrsmith at oconee.k12.ga.us (Matt Smith)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 12:42:26 -0500
Subject: VNC for SLES 10 on RL3
In-Reply-To: <49A6BE7D020000BB00012F50@mail2.nds8.com>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Scott Etienne" <Setienne at enesco.com>
> To:  <novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk>
>  
> I once saw someone launch and x-windows session from one linux
machine,
> to remote-control another.
>  


Sorry, in my haste, I didn't read your message thoroughly.  FreeNX
works best for me for remote GUI sessions back to a Windows box, not
Linux to Linux.

-Matt
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Oconee County School System, Oconee County, Georgia
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From TJohnson at lancaster.wnyric.org  Thu Feb 26 17:45:55 2009
From: TJohnson at lancaster.wnyric.org (TJohnson at lancaster.wnyric.org)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 12:45:55 -0500
Subject: VNC for SLES 10 on RL3
In-Reply-To: <49A668F0.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com>
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If he is using a linux machine to remote then I would definitely go with an
ssh -X user at host and then just run yast2 or any other program with a gui.

If he is using a Windows box then have a look at Xming or use putty with X
forwarding.

Just my 0.02 and probably stuff that many others have already suggested.

T2


                                                                           
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My boss wants to know how he can administer DNS while I am away. He LOVES
guis, and I would like to find a way to let him use yast from a VNC session
without having to have the gui running on the server.

It would be okay if the we had to launch the GUI temporarily but this it
would be better if we didn't have to.

I once saw someone launch and x-windows session from one linux machine, to
remote-control another.

Is there an easy way to accomplish this?

Thank you,

Scott Etienne
Network Engineer
Enesco, LLC
setienne at enesco.com


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From James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com  Fri Feb 27 12:13:02 2009
From: James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com (James Taylor)
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 07:13:02 -0500
Subject: Reidar, I couldn't respond to your email
Message-ID: <49A7927E02000075000469E3@inet.eastcobbgroup.com>

Please excuse the off-topic message.

Reidar - 
When I tried to reply to your message, it bounced with a 550 error.
I've tried this a number of times and get the same result.
Is there another way to contact you?
-jt



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From Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee  Sat Feb 28 11:54:49 2009
From: Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee (Alar Pandis)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 13:54:49 +0200
Subject: SLES 10 SP2 Contacting Customer Center ... take a while
Message-ID: <00f701c9999b$5c11f0b0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee>

Hi!
When I try to contact Novell Customer Center via YaST2 then appear
"Contacting server ... This may take a while" and ... this take a ... more
than a while! Nothing happen.
I don't see via automatic updates much more updates as after upgrading from
SP1 to SP2 (OES to OES SP1) so I thought this could be connected. Server was
registered when I installed it.
Any ideas? What log I must look?
More thanks,
Alar.



From jrd at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk  Sat Feb 28 12:05:49 2009
From: jrd at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk (jrd)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 12:05:49 +0000
Subject: SLES 10 SP2 Contacting Customer Center ... take a while
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References: <00f701c9999b$5c11f0b0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee>
Message-ID: <49A9289D.5040708@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk>

Alar Pandis wrote:
> Hi!
> When I try to contact Novell Customer Center via YaST2 then appear
> "Contacting server ... This may take a while" and ... this take a ... more
> than a while! Nothing happen.
> I don't see via automatic updates much more updates as after upgrading from
> SP1 to SP2 (OES to OES SP1) so I thought this could be connected. Server was
> registered when I installed it.
> Any ideas? What log I must look?
> More thanks,
> Alar.
>   
---------------------
    First, my advice is avoid updates/patches while installing an o/s. 
Make the box in
a consistent state first, and later get around to patching the result 
(else we may easily
run into version conflicts where a patch has upgraded a component needed 
by an
app installed shortly later).
    Second, use rug. Check your subscriptions. I avoid the GUI and use 
plain rug to
keep systems patched. Novell has stated that we ought not alternate 
between them,
but evidence of trouble has not been published.
   Thiird, you can stroll through YaST, Software Installation, to see 
patched items
as coloured in red.
   Joe D.