NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contactevery 24 hours

Thu Feb 26 15:31:29 GMT 2009

One bare possibility occurs to me - have you cleared the proxy cache on this server yet? 

Randy Grein
Sr. Network Engineer

>>> "Alar Pandis" <Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee> 2/26/2009 3:08 AM >>>
Hi again with still same problem!
I have from outside network two ping addresses -- server itself and one
email server behind. First start failed ping to email server, ping to server
from outside and inside failed some minute(s) after that. And then console
from server does work, but ... restart from console not. No error messages
or whatsoever. After restart server work ok some 24-25 hours and same happen
again.
Yesterday we changed from one outside line to another, but probably problem
lies not there.
Alar.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:47 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses
contactevery 24 hours

Hi again!
Did change hard disk and also power supply! But ... same problem.
Interesting that after re(over)installing SP8 this time cycle did change
from approximately from 24-25 hours to 34-35 hours!
I'm lost!
More thanks, Alar.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 12:07 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses
contactevery 24 hours

Perhaps I must replace a hard disk? Could there be problems NetWare can't
recognize? I mean, show errors? No error appear during copying all files
from this disk, for backup.
Alar.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 11:38 AM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses
contactevery 24 hours

Hi again!
Still. I'd reinstall SP8 and it hold on ... almost 36 hours and ... lost
contact again!
Loaded (from console) is just dhcp and DNS. Could it be NDS-related!? I
can't see any memory lost, but may be I didn't look the right place!?
Any further ideas?
More thanks, Alar.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:42 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses
contactevery 24 hours

Hi again and thanks James!
I'm agree -- this our NW 5.1 with BM 3.6 on top of it has done very good
job, indeed! But now I'm thinking replace it with special firewall device
like NSA 2400 from Sonicwall etc. I'm not sure. But, anyway, I can't do that
in middle of working period, may be at summer or so. If something with this
server more bad does not happen, I hope not.
I'll wait until server does next unplanned stop as last day I'd removed from
autoexec some SSL and FTP components still loaded with no use and then try
to reinstall SP8.
More thanks, Alar.

>>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Feb 18 14:29:09 GMT
2009 >>>
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Yes.  Also, pay attention to any post sp8 updates that may have been
applied.  There may be some TCP updates since the original patch, so you
want to make sure everything matches afterward.

FYI - I'm still running both of my public DNS servers, with BM, on NW65sp8.
I've had these servers (workstations, actually) running for over 7 years,
and I need to update the hardware and replace then with linux servers, but
they have been so rock solid, I hate to touch them.

-jt

James Taylor
The East Cobb Group, Inc.
678-697-9420
james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com
http://www.eastcobbgroup.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 4:16 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact
every 24 hours

Hi again and thanks!
Well, that's something!
So, I just run SP8 again as I did it before? Probably I must change tcpip
later back as it is for BM.
More thanks, Alar.

>>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Feb 18 13:43:31 GMT
2009 <<<

Since this started occurring without any know related event, it may be an
instance of file corruption somewhere.  I have had strange, intermittent
problems with no obvious cause that I have cured by reinstalling the latest
support pack.  It replaces a very large percentage of system files, so there
is a good chance that, if there is a corrupted file, it will be replaced.
It is a bit of a shotgun approach, but it doesn't usually take long and
often works.

-jt 

James Taylor
The East Cobb Group, Inc.
678-697-9420
james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com
http://www.eastcobbgroup.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 12:58 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact
every 24 hours

Hi!
As no reply for this, I little bit rephrase my question! As no BM stuff is
loaded anymore I wonder where to look when NetWare 5.1 SP8 start act as
described below?! (Well, it start act so being loaded also with BM stuff.)
This machine is first between outside world. Almost nothing is loaded, just
NAT and filtering as it still acts like firewall.
And ... 24 hours and connection is broken, restart and again 24 hours.
Any ideas?
More thanks, Alar.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:37 AM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: RE: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours

Hi again!
24 hours and it looses all network connectivity and need restart. Sunday
morning I'd replace all memory pieces and add twice as much memory. Also did
clean it inside, little bit dusty. Nothing helps.
Right now I see that directory cache buffers is by 34 over minimum 1700, but
last time when I saw same and restart machine it decrease to 1110 or so.
I have on server console just console, timesync debug screen, named,
dhcpsrvr debug screen, novell ssl server handshake screen and monitor.
Usually I have started brdsrv and inetcfg and filtcfg, nothing more.
What I'd when proxy start to show on client browsers memory error.
I'd add three add ip addresses (in autoexec) to allow direct connection
between outside and inside worlds for one server and two as for future.
Removed from autoexec tftp start, we don't use it anymore. And ... nothing
more.
Any ideas?
More thanks,
Alar. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] 
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 3:49 PM
To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group'
Subject: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours

Hi!
BM 3.6 SP2a, NW 5.1 SP8. Started last Monday our BM server start to behave
oddly. First we noticed that internet access via BM proxy start show "Status
: 500 Internal Server Error -- Description : Novell Proxy Memory Allocation
error". After I'd restart server (change almost nothing, add few NAT
addresses I have planned, this requires restart) it did work almost exactly
24 hours and ... we did lost connection to it. So few days. Exactly 24
hours. On server side it did work (console was ok) and I could note Monitor
info etc., but on restart attempt from console it didn't restart - console
hung -, but in other way was accessible for open programs from console. I
have to push the button. And ... 24 and same. It did work 310 days before
that and years before that wo any major problems.
Any ideas to start for looking some numbers from console. I tried, but for
me it shows almost ... normal. Didn't start brdsrv (incl. proxy) anymore and
same happen, few hours later than 24 hours running.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
More thanks, Alar.
See also threads
http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-prox 
ies/359814-novell-proxy-memory-allocation-error.html
http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-inst 
all-setup/360651-bm-3-6-looses-access-every-24-hours-so.html

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