From HPfeil at uca.edu  Wed Jul  1 14:01:25 2009
From: HPfeil at uca.edu (Hans Pfeil)
Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 08:01:25 -0500
Subject: iFolder3.7
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Thanks



>>> "Michael Glenn" <MGlenn at cco.state.oh.us> 6/30/2009 12:10 PM >>>
Go here: http://support.novell.com/additional/bugreport.html 


>>> "Hans Pfeil" <HPfeil at uca.edu> 06/30/2009 10:43 >>>
Hey Michael just curious, can anybody file a bug report or just certain people?  How does one go about filing a bug report?

-Hans


>>> "Michael Glenn" <MGlenn at cco.state.oh.us> 6/30/2009 8:57 AM >>>
I'll file a bug report on this. 


>>> "Hans Pfeil" <HPfeil at uca.edu> 06/30/2009 09:08 >>>
Thanks for the confirmation.  It was driving me nuts.

-Hans


>>> "Michael Glenn" <MGlenn at cco.state.oh.us> 6/29/2009 3:04 PM >>>
Ah, yup; my policy limit is currently 10, and one of my people was able to create 12.

Something's wrong.


>>> "Michael Glenn" <MGlenn at cco.state.oh.us> 06/29/2009 13:51 >>>
I have the iFolder volume running on a NSS partition zoned via RDM from the SAN. I haven't checked to see if the max folder limit is honored; perhaps I should.

Thanks for the heads-up.


>>> "Hans Pfeil" <HPfeil at uca.edu> 06/26/2009 15:05 >>>
Hey all, running OES2SP1-LX-64bit with ext3 as the file system on a test server.  My data store for iFolder is on the SAN connected via ISCSI also ext3.  Setup some test users.  In the iFolder Management System we limit each user to 2 iFolders.   Install the iFolder 3.7 client on a WinXP-SP3 workstation.  Here is the problem.   It lets me create as many as I want.   Tried with different users and different workstations.  I get the same results.  Is this a bug?  Anybody have the same setup?

Thanks
Hans


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From joe.acquisto at gmail.com  Thu Jul  9 19:06:34 2009
From: joe.acquisto at gmail.com (joe Acquisto)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 14:06:34 -0400
Subject: rug/red-carpet OES1
Message-ID: <5e7da10a0907091106q13a3e2ecy5e05dea74b066bf@mail.gmail.com>

Preparing to do updates on OES1 boxes  Several items -

Back to the differences between "patches" and "updates".  One TID (10097537)
says "never" install "patches", (using Red-Carpet) only "updates".

It also says that rug pl oes:* will break stuff like cluster services.  One
assumes this is simply a warning against that specific construct.  ?

I just updated a test cluster, using red-carpet, and did not see and
"patches" only "updates".  This was before reading the referenced TID.  All
seem to have gone well.

But, other, production, boxes show both "patches" and "updates".  What do
do?

joe a

From joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk  Thu Jul  9 23:49:08 2009
From: joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk (Joe R. Doupnik)
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 23:49:08 +0100
Subject: rug/red-carpet OES1
In-Reply-To: <5e7da10a0907091106q13a3e2ecy5e05dea74b066bf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5e7da10a0907091106q13a3e2ecy5e05dea74b066bf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A5673E4.1000008@oucs.ox.ac.uk>

joe Acquisto wrote:
> Preparing to do updates on OES1 boxes  Several items -
>
> Back to the differences between "patches" and "updates".  One TID (10097537)
> says "never" install "patches", (using Red-Carpet) only "updates".
>
> It also says that rug pl oes:* will break stuff like cluster services.  One
> assumes this is simply a warning against that specific construct.  ?
>
> I just updated a test cluster, using red-carpet, and did not see and
> "patches" only "updates".  This was before reading the referenced TID.  All
> seem to have gone well.
>
> But, other, production, boxes show both "patches" and "updates".  What do
> do?
>
> joe a
>   
       Well spotted Joe.  I suspect, just a feeling, that Novell has 
improved things such that the
old advice is now obsolete. Much has been learned since OES1 came out.
        Joe D. (in Provo for the TTP meeting and pre-meeting courses)

From joea at j4computers.com  Fri Jul 10 14:27:17 2009
From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:27:17 -0400
Subject: rug/red-carpet OES1
Message-ID: <4A57197F020000850006019A@FS-LIN-OES>

>>>> "Joe R. Doupnik" <joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk> 07/09/09 7:01 PM >>> 
>joe Acquisto wrote: 
>> Preparing to do updates on OES1 boxes Several items - 
>> 
>> Back to the differences between "patches" and "updates". One TID (10097537) 
>> says "never" install "patches", (using Red-Carpet) only "updates". 
 
Sigh. of course, I reversed the two.  It actually says the reverse.

>. . .> But, other, production, boxes show both "patches" and "updates". What do 
>> do? 
>> 
>> joe a 
>> 
>Well spotted Joe. I suspect, just a feeling, that Novell has 
>improved things such that the 
>old advice is now obsolete. Much has been learned since OES1 came out. 
>Joe D. (in Provo for the TTP meeting and pre-meeting courses) 
>
 
Aha!  Back on home turf, eh?
 
Perhaps while there, you can corner some one to give a update (sorry) to this matter?
 
I have just be chastised by our Linux guru to "never install updates" and "don't do that in production".
 
BTW "SPIdent" seems to think "+online updates" is not up to date.
 
(Yes, I will look into the Time Travel aspect of using gmail to post, just noticed that).

joe a.


From joe.acquisto at gmail.com  Fri Jul 10 14:33:46 2009
From: joe.acquisto at gmail.com (joe Acquisto)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:33:46 -0400
Subject: Time Warp
Message-ID: <5e7da10a0907100633x98bac9br9966d9cfb99555f5@mail.gmail.com>

Apparently some anomoly with my own system.  It was down most of
yesterday. Message I saw as "future posted" probably only showing when it
arrived in my stuff. Gmail, etc, shows properly.  Astonishing.

joe a.

From jrd at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk  Fri Jul 10 14:42:29 2009
From: jrd at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk (Joe Doupnik)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:42:29 +0100
Subject: rug/red-carpet OES1
In-Reply-To: <4A57197F020000850006019A@FS-LIN-OES>
References: <4A57197F020000850006019A@FS-LIN-OES>
Message-ID: <4A574545.6000006@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk>

joea at j4computers.com wrote:
>>>>> "Joe R. Doupnik" <joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk> 07/09/09 7:01 PM >>> 
>>>>>           
>> joe Acquisto wrote: 
>>     
>>> Preparing to do updates on OES1 boxes Several items - 
>>>
>>> Back to the differences between "patches" and "updates". One TID (10097537) 
>>> says "never" install "patches", (using Red-Carpet) only "updates". 
>>>       
>  
> Sigh. of course, I reversed the two.  It actually says the reverse.
>
>   
>> . . .> But, other, production, boxes show both "patches" and "updates". What do 
>>     
>>> do? 
>>>
>>> joe a 
>>>
>>>       
>> Well spotted Joe. I suspect, just a feeling, that Novell has 
>> improved things such that the 
>> old advice is now obsolete. Much has been learned since OES1 came out. 
>> Joe D. (in Provo for the TTP meeting and pre-meeting courses) 
>>
>>     
>  
> Aha!  Back on home turf, eh?
>  
> Perhaps while there, you can corner some one to give a update (sorry) to this matter?
>  
> I have just be chastised by our Linux guru to "never install updates" and "don't do that in production".
>  
> BTW "SPIdent" seems to think "+online updates" is not up to date.
>  
> (Yes, I will look into the Time Travel aspect of using gmail to post, just noticed that).
>
> joe a.
>   
-------------
          These days home turf is the UK, but Provo is certainly well 
trod territory.
I have a nifty presentation on SMT, the current local-patch-archive 
mechanism,
but one needs to be here to view it.
         Joe D.

From joe.acquisto at gmail.com  Fri Jul 10 15:09:24 2009
From: joe.acquisto at gmail.com (joe Acquisto)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:09:24 -0400
Subject: rug/red-carpet OES1
In-Reply-To: <4A574545.6000006@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk>
References: <4A57197F020000850006019A@FS-LIN-OES>
	<4A574545.6000006@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <5e7da10a0907100709p31b331e5x7d72ac92a4be02dc@mail.gmail.com>

Last I heard SMT it had to do with mounting componets on circuit boards.
Showing my "maturity".

So, any chance of some guidance from Novell on the patch/update procedure?
Or is an incident with NTS in order?

joe a.

From geoffreycarman at gmail.com  Fri Jul 10 15:13:30 2009
From: geoffreycarman at gmail.com (Geoffrey Carman)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:13:30 -0400
Subject: rug/red-carpet OES1
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References: <4A57197F020000850006019A@FS-LIN-OES>
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I think SMT is the local mirror of Novell's patch channels...  Like
WSUS for Linux.

PS:  Who comes up with names there?  SUS, WSUS, SCMM (Scum)??

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 10:09 AM, joe Acquisto<joe.acquisto at gmail.com> wrote:
> Last I heard SMT it had to do with mounting componets on circuit boards.
> Showing my "maturity".
>
> So, any chance of some guidance from Novell on the patch/update procedure?
> Or is an incident with NTS in order?
>
> joe a.
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From evansj21 at msu.edu  Fri Jul 10 15:34:40 2009
From: evansj21 at msu.edu (John Evans)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:34:40 -0400
Subject: rug/red-carpet OES1
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References: <4A57197F020000850006019A@FS-LIN-OES>
	<4A574545.6000006@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk>
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Message-ID: <4A57193A.42FE.0085.0@MAIL.HFS.MSU.EDU>

surface mount technology

>>> joe Acquisto <joe.acquisto at gmail.com> 7/10/2009 10:09 AM >>>
Last I heard SMT it had to do with mounting componets on circuit boards.
Showing my "maturity".

So, any chance of some guidance from Novell on the patch/update procedure?
Or is an incident with NTS in order?

joe a.
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From MGlenn at cco.state.oh.us  Fri Jul 10 15:41:24 2009
From: MGlenn at cco.state.oh.us (Michael Glenn)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:41:24 -0400
Subject: DST: Cannot remove file/folder
Message-ID: <4A571AD4.33FD.002C.1@cco.state.oh.us>

Hi folks; it's me again.

I'm having a curious problem with a DST volume. Occasionally, when I delete a directory structure (yes, via NCP), I get an error deleting some files and/or folders. The error is: "Cannot remove file|folder <name>: Cannot find the specified file." Yet, a explorer browse of the offending structure shows the file or folder plain as day. 

The closest thing I can find in the knowledgebase on the problem is TID 3434914, which recommends adding ns=long to the volume options strings in fstab. As you might guess, I'm a bit reluctant to mess with fstab settings for a set of production volumes, especially when the closest match in the knowledgebase isn't very close at all.

So; am I on the right path? Someone toss me a clue here?

Thanks.



From larry at ladyburd.com  Wed Jul 15 16:53:49 2009
From: larry at ladyburd.com (Larry Burd)
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:53:49 -0400
Subject: Live one care
References: <mailman.690.1206978423.3696.novell@netlab1.usu.edu>
Message-ID: <409D83CDE18348DEA244D91D64D57B66@ladyburd.local>

We have a site license for Windows Live one care.
Once installed, we can't log onto our Novell 5.1 server.
It says.
"Tree cannot be found."
"server can not be found"

All the settings are correct, nothing has changed, except installing Live 
one care.

The enviorment is Novell 5.1 sp8, and SBS 2008 domain.

Is there a setting in Liveone care so it sees the novell tree, and server ?

thx
Larry 


From Hatchellb at vvc.edu  Wed Jul 15 16:55:55 2009
From: Hatchellb at vvc.edu (Brian Hatchell)
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:55:55 -0700
Subject: Live one care
In-Reply-To: <409D83CDE18348DEA244D91D64D57B66@ladyburd.local>
References: <mailman.690.1206978423.3696.novell@netlab1.usu.edu>
	<409D83CDE18348DEA244D91D64D57B66@ladyburd.local>
Message-ID: <4A5D999B020000240003FFA0@lola.vvc.edu>

Are you using SLP?  What happens if you specify the IP address or DNS name of a replica server in the 'server' field of Novell Client?
 
Brian Hatchell
Network Manager
Victor Valley College
760 245-4271 x2792

"The future has already arrived. It's just not evenly distributed yet." 
- William Gibson
 
Check my Blog at http://gwcal.vvc.edu/mplusextranet/scp.dll/blog?user=hatchellb


>>> On 7/15/2009 at 8:53 AM, in message <409D83CDE18348DEA244D91D64D57B66 at ladyburd.local>, "Larry Burd" <larry at ladyburd.com> wrote:

We have a site license for Windows Live one care.
Once installed, we can't log onto our Novell 5.1 server.
It says.
"Tree cannot be found."
"server can not be found"

All the settings are correct, nothing has changed, except installing Live 
one care.

The enviorment is Novell 5.1 sp8, and SBS 2008 domain.

Is there a setting in Liveone care so it sees the novell tree, and server ?

thx
Larry 

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From dabernathy at claytoncorp.com  Thu Jul 16 15:02:03 2009
From: dabernathy at claytoncorp.com (Dan Abernathy)
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:02:03 -0500
Subject: Live one care
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You may need to check the firewall settings and open the ports for the Novell Client (427 and 524) and LDAP (389, or 636 if using SSL).
 

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>>> On 7/15/2009 at 10:53 AM, "Larry Burd" <larry at ladyburd.com> wrote:

We have a site license for Windows Live one care.
Once installed, we can't log onto our Novell 5.1 server.
It says.
"Tree cannot be found."
"server can not be found"

All the settings are correct, nothing has changed, except installing Live 
one care.

The enviorment is Novell 5.1 sp8, and SBS 2008 domain.

Is there a setting in Liveone care so it sees the novell tree, and server ?

thx
Larry 

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From joea at j4computers.com  Fri Jul 17 20:29:55 2009
From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com)
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:29:55 -0400
Subject: slp oddities
Message-ID: <4A61480B02000085000601E7@FS-LIN-OES>

While reconfuring slp (OpenSLp OES1 Linux/Netware), ran into an oddness.  Or two.
 
Setting up 2 static DA's on Linux and removing the NW DA's.
 
/etc/slp.conf in each DA has been graced with the IP of the other (only) and told to not listen for (passive), nor ask for (active) DA's.
 
/etc/slp.conf in all the other boxes have been given the IP of each of the DA's.  Yet, even after "rcslpd restart", they show only the first entry.  (net.slp.DAAddresses = ip, ip).  In Netware, seems the equivalent requires they be on seperate lines, tried that also, not joy.   What am I doing wrong?
 
Also, noticed, much to my astonishment, that leaving out the space between scopes (net.slp.useScopes = my-scope, DEFAULT), yields "a lot more" services, when queried with slptool.  just seems odd, that.
 
joe a.


From steven.tharp at davenport.edu  Fri Jul 17 21:42:34 2009
From: steven.tharp at davenport.edu (Steven Tharp)
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:42:34 -0400
Subject: slp oddities
Message-ID: <1247863273-26248@relay7.mail.ox.ac.uk>

Open SLP does mot read edir like the Netware version. Once the DA is up then when the servers register they will show up. If the DA restarts this all starts over. I am going to continue to run on Netware servers. 

Steven

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Subject: slp oddities


While reconfuring slp (OpenSLp OES1 Linux/Netware), ran into an oddness.  Or two.
 
Setting up 2 static DA's on Linux and removing the NW DA's.
 
/etc/slp.conf in each DA has been graced with the IP of the other (only) and told to not listen for (passive), nor ask for (active) DA's.
 
/etc/slp.conf in all the other boxes have been given the IP of each of the DA's.  Yet, even after "rcslpd restart", they show only the first entry.  (net.slp.DAAddresses = ip, ip).  In Netware, seems the equivalent requires they be on seperate lines, tried that also, not joy.   What am I doing wrong?
 
Also, noticed, much to my astonishment, that leaving out the space between scopes (net.slp.useScopes = my-scope, DEFAULT), yields "a lot more" services, when queried with slptool.  just seems odd, that.
 
joe a.

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From joe.acquisto at gmail.com  Fri Jul 17 22:01:06 2009
From: joe.acquisto at gmail.com (joe Acquisto)
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:01:06 -0400
Subject: slp oddities
In-Reply-To: <1247863273-26248@relay7.mail.ox.ac.uk>
References: <1247863273-26248@relay7.mail.ox.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <5e7da10a0907171401h2a27e564wc2410cb1788b71b1@mail.gmail.com>

Not sure I understand.

I know openlsp does not interact with eDirectory.

What I have is two Linux (openslp) DA's.  Each sees the other, and slptool,
when run on each, shows the other as the DA.   One presumes this is to be
setup as in NW, where a DA is told about others (in slp.conf) but not about
itself.   However, I am re-pondering this as I type.

Yet at *all* the other servers (not DA's), "slptool findsvrs service" tells
me only about the DA who's number is listed first in its own slp.conf.  It
appears to ignore the second entry.

Hints?

joe a.

On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Steven Tharp <steven.tharp at davenport.edu>wrote:

> Open SLP does mot read edir like the Netware version. Once the DA is up
> then when the servers register they will show up. If the DA restarts this
> all starts over. I am going to continue to run on Netware servers.
>
> Steven
>
> [Message delivered by NotifyLink]
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> ----------Original Message----------
>
> From: "joea at j4computers.com" <joea at j4computers.com>
> Sent: Fri, July 17, 2009 3:31 PM
> To: <novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk>
> Subject: slp oddities
>
>
> While reconfuring slp (OpenSLp OES1 Linux/Netware), ran into an oddness.
>  Or two.
>
> Setting up 2 static DA's on Linux and removing the NW DA's.
>
> /etc/slp.conf in each DA has been graced with the IP of the other (only)
> and told to not listen for (passive), nor ask for (active) DA's.
>
> /etc/slp.conf in all the other boxes have been given the IP of each of the
> DA's.  Yet, even after "rcslpd restart", they show only the first entry.
>  (net.slp.DAAddresses = ip, ip).  In Netware, seems the equivalent requires
> they be on seperate lines, tried that also, not joy.   What am I doing
> wrong?
>
> Also, noticed, much to my astonishment, that leaving out the space between
> scopes (net.slp.useScopes = my-scope, DEFAULT), yields "a lot more"
> services, when queried with slptool.  just seems odd, that.
>
> joe a.
>
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From James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com  Fri Jul 17 22:11:59 2009
From: James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com (James Taylor)
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:11:59 -0400
Subject: slp oddities
In-Reply-To: <5e7da10a0907171401h2a27e564wc2410cb1788b71b1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1247863273-26248@relay7.mail.ox.ac.uk>
	<5e7da10a0907171401h2a27e564wc2410cb1788b71b1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A60B0DF02000075000396C7@inet.eastcobbgroup.com>

openSLP is not nearly as robust as NetWare's SLP.
It can take up to an hour for an SLPDA to get updated after it starts.  The current openSLP on OES linux, even the latest beta code, is not an adequate replacement for NetWare SLP.  If you use it exclusively, expect not to be happy.
-jt 
 

James Taylor
The East Cobb Group, Inc.
678-697-9420
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>>> joe Acquisto <joe.acquisto at gmail.com> 7/17/2009  05:01 PM >>> 
Not sure I understand.

I know openlsp does not interact with eDirectory.

What I have is two Linux (openslp) DA's.  Each sees the other, and slptool,
when run on each, shows the other as the DA.   One presumes this is to be
setup as in NW, where a DA is told about others (in slp.conf) but not about
itself.   However, I am re-pondering this as I type.

Yet at *all* the other servers (not DA's), "slptool findsvrs service" tells
me only about the DA who's number is listed first in its own slp.conf.  It
appears to ignore the second entry.

Hints?

joe a.

On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Steven Tharp <steven.tharp at davenport.edu>wrote:

> Open SLP does mot read edir like the Netware version. Once the DA is up
> then when the servers register they will show up. If the DA restarts this
> all starts over. I am going to continue to run on Netware servers.
>
> Steven
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>
> From: "joea at j4computers.com" <joea at j4computers.com>
> Sent: Fri, July 17, 2009 3:31 PM
> To: <novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk>
> Subject: slp oddities
>
>
> While reconfuring slp (OpenSLp OES1 Linux/Netware), ran into an oddness.
>  Or two.
>
> Setting up 2 static DA's on Linux and removing the NW DA's.
>
> /etc/slp.conf in each DA has been graced with the IP of the other (only)
> and told to not listen for (passive), nor ask for (active) DA's.
>
> /etc/slp.conf in all the other boxes have been given the IP of each of the
> DA's.  Yet, even after "rcslpd restart", they show only the first entry.
>  (net.slp.DAAddresses = ip, ip).  In Netware, seems the equivalent requires
> they be on seperate lines, tried that also, not joy.   What am I doing
> wrong?
>
> Also, noticed, much to my astonishment, that leaving out the space between
> scopes (net.slp.useScopes = my-scope, DEFAULT), yields "a lot more"
> services, when queried with slptool.  just seems odd, that.
>
> joe a.
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From alandpearson at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 17 23:29:08 2009
From: alandpearson at yahoo.com (Alan Pearson)
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:29:08 +0100
Subject: slp oddities
In-Reply-To: <4A60B0DF02000075000396C7@inet.eastcobbgroup.com>
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SLP on Linux with 2 DAs requires SLP from SLES10SP2 (read - OES2SP1)  
for them to 'talk' to each other correctly (read register services  
between themselves)
this is a known bug and only resolved with openSLP shipped with  
SLED10SP2
Drove me mad this, and novell would _not_ back port it to OES2SP0  
patch channel although the code from SLES10SP2(OES2SP1) runs fine on  
SLES10SP1 (OES2).
This is what novell recommended to do for multiple DAs.



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On 17 Jul 2009, at 22:11, James Taylor wrote:

> openSLP is not nearly as robust as NetWare's SLP.
> It can take up to an hour for an SLPDA to get updated after it  
> starts.  The current openSLP on OES linux, even the latest beta  
> code, is not an adequate replacement for NetWare SLP.  If you use it  
> exclusively, expect not to be happy.
> -jt
>
>
> James Taylor
> The East Cobb Group, Inc.
> 678-697-9420
> james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com
> http://www.eastcobbgroup.com
>
>
>
>
>>>> joe Acquisto <joe.acquisto at gmail.com> 7/17/2009  05:01 PM >>>
> Not sure I understand.
>
> I know openlsp does not interact with eDirectory.
>
> What I have is two Linux (openslp) DA's.  Each sees the other, and  
> slptool,
> when run on each, shows the other as the DA.   One presumes this is  
> to be
> setup as in NW, where a DA is told about others (in slp.conf) but  
> not about
> itself.   However, I am re-pondering this as I type.
>
> Yet at *all* the other servers (not DA's), "slptool findsvrs  
> service" tells
> me only about the DA who's number is listed first in its own  
> slp.conf.  It
> appears to ignore the second entry.
>
> Hints?
>
> joe a.
>
> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Steven Tharp <steven.tharp at davenport.edu 
> >wrote:
>
>> Open SLP does mot read edir like the Netware version. Once the DA  
>> is up
>> then when the servers register they will show up. If the DA  
>> restarts this
>> all starts over. I am going to continue to run on Netware servers.
>>
>> Steven
>>
>> [Message delivered by NotifyLink]
>>
>> ----------Original Message----------
>>
>> From: "joea at j4computers.com" <joea at j4computers.com>
>> Sent: Fri, July 17, 2009 3:31 PM
>> To: <novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk>
>> Subject: slp oddities
>>
>>
>> While reconfuring slp (OpenSLp OES1 Linux/Netware), ran into an  
>> oddness.
>> Or two.
>>
>> Setting up 2 static DA's on Linux and removing the NW DA's.
>>
>> /etc/slp.conf in each DA has been graced with the IP of the other  
>> (only)
>> and told to not listen for (passive), nor ask for (active) DA's.
>>
>> /etc/slp.conf in all the other boxes have been given the IP of each  
>> of the
>> DA's.  Yet, even after "rcslpd restart", they show only the first  
>> entry.
>> (net.slp.DAAddresses = ip, ip).  In Netware, seems the equivalent  
>> requires
>> they be on seperate lines, tried that also, not joy.   What am I  
>> doing
>> wrong?
>>
>> Also, noticed, much to my astonishment, that leaving out the space  
>> between
>> scopes (net.slp.useScopes = my-scope, DEFAULT), yields "a lot more"
>> services, when queried with slptool.  just seems odd, that.
>>
>> joe a.
>>
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From joea at j4computers.com  Tue Jul 21 16:21:28 2009
From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:21:28 -0400
Subject: openslp oes1
Message-ID: <4A65F0970200008500060200@FS-LIN-OES>

After playing with openslp on oes1, find that leaving things at  defaults seems best.
 
net.slp.isDA = true,  on DA's, of course.
And, as in NW, do not reference "yourself" in the slp.conf file as a DA.
 
But, seems, still, yet, with no resolution in sight, -  "slptool findsrvs service:bindery.novell", will only show, oh, 8, servers.  There should be over 20.
 
One presumes "service:bindery.novell" should register where ever eDirectory is running (as readings imply).  Since all have eDir (8.7.3 sp10b) and their slp.conf seems identical, the problem must lie elsewhere.  But, where else? 
 
I have tried rcslpd restart and rcndsd stop/start (hoping edir would register on startup),but, no joy.
 
joe a.


From rpd at co.mason.wa.us  Tue Jul 21 17:19:19 2009
From: rpd at co.mason.wa.us (Bob Deans)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 09:19:19 -0700
Subject: openslp oes1
Message-ID: <4A658817020000200001D4D7@GWISE.co.mason.wa.us>

A consultant I hired had problems getting slp on oes2 working and he finally said the Yast was causing the problem by changing the case of the entries in the conf. file.


>>> "joea at j4computers.com" <joea at j4computers.com> 07/21/09 8:22 AM >>> 
After playing with openslp on oes1, find that leaving things at defaults seems best. 

net.slp.isDA = true, on DA's, of course. 
And, as in NW, do not reference "yourself" in the slp.conf file as a DA. 

But, seems, still, yet, with no resolution in sight, - "slptool findsrvs service:bindery.novell", will only show, oh, 8, servers. There should be over 20. 

One presumes "service:bindery.novell" should register where ever eDirectory is running (as readings imply). Since all have eDir (8.7.3 sp10b) and their slp.conf seems identical, the problem must lie elsewhere. But, where else? 

I have tried rcslpd restart and rcndsd stop/start (hoping edir would register on startup),but, no joy. 

joe a. 

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From TJohnson at lancaster.wnyric.org  Tue Jul 21 17:57:24 2009
From: TJohnson at lancaster.wnyric.org (TJohnson at lancaster.wnyric.org)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 12:57:24 -0400
Subject: openslp oes1
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Joe,

I have it working here and really have had no problems getting SLP working
on OES2 and OESSP1 on both SLES10SP1 and SP2.  I have always gone in and
manually edited the slp.conf file and in addition I have always set the
slp.interface parameter, even on servers that are not multihomed.  Not sure
if that will help but I only deviated from the docs on the interface
setting as standard in my setups.

HTH

T2


                                                                           
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A consultant I hired had problems getting slp on oes2 working and he
finally said the Yast was causing the problem by changing the case of the
entries in the conf. file.


>>> "joea at j4computers.com" <joea at j4computers.com> 07/21/09 8:22 AM >>>
After playing with openslp on oes1, find that leaving things at defaults
seems best.

net.slp.isDA = true, on DA's, of course.
And, as in NW, do not reference "yourself" in the slp.conf file as a DA.

But, seems, still, yet, with no resolution in sight, - "slptool findsrvs
service:bindery.novell", will only show, oh, 8, servers. There should be
over 20.

One presumes "service:bindery.novell" should register where ever eDirectory
is running (as readings imply). Since all have eDir (8.7.3 sp10b) and their
slp.conf seems identical, the problem must lie elsewhere. But, where else?

I have tried rcslpd restart and rcndsd stop/start (hoping edir would
register on startup),but, no joy.

joe a.

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From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:53:35 -0400
Subject: openslp oes1
Message-ID: <4A6616C30200008500060213@FS-LIN-OES>

The problem does not *seem* to be in the slp.conf file (at least of the DA's) but what do I know?), in that, other services seem to register for each server.  
 
Only the "service:bindery.novell" seems reluctant to register for all servers.  The same 8 servers (2 NW, 6 Linux) show, "expire" and "renew".   None of the others seem inclined to do so.
 
There are multiple IP's on some of the boxes, so I will try to do the interface specification thing.
 
So, no one takes issue with my assumption that "service:bindery.novell" should register for each server that is running eDirectory?
 
joe a.

>>> <TJohnson at lancaster.wnyric.org> 07/21/09 6:34 PM >>> 
Joe, 

I have it working here and really have had no problems getting SLP working 
on OES2 and OESSP1 on both SLES10SP1 and SP2. I have always gone in and 
manually edited the slp.conf file and in addition I have always set the 
slp.interface parameter, even on servers that are not multihomed. Not sure 
if that will help but I only deviated from the docs on the interface 
setting as standard in my setups. 

HTH 

T2 



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finally said the Yast was causing the problem by changing the case of the 
entries in the conf. file. 


>>> "joea at j4computers.com" <joea at j4computers.com> 07/21/09 8:22 AM >>> 
After playing with openslp on oes1, find that leaving things at defaults 
seems best. 

net.slp.isDA = true, on DA's, of course. 
And, as in NW, do not reference "yourself" in the slp.conf file as a DA. 

But, seems, still, yet, with no resolution in sight, - "slptool findsrvs 
service:bindery.novell", will only show, oh, 8, servers. There should be 
over 20. 

One presumes "service:bindery.novell" should register where ever eDirectory 
is running (as readings imply). Since all have eDir (8.7.3 sp10b) and their 
slp.conf seems identical, the problem must lie elsewhere. But, where else? 

I have tried rcslpd restart and rcndsd stop/start (hoping edir would 
register on startup),but, no joy. 

joe a. 

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From TJohnson at lancaster.wnyric.org  Tue Jul 21 19:41:56 2009
From: TJohnson at lancaster.wnyric.org (TJohnson at lancaster.wnyric.org)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:41:56 -0400
Subject: openslp oes1
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Joe,

All eDir servers in all tress show for me when running the same slptool
command, including entries for my cluster master Ip and all cluster
resources.

HTH

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The problem does not *seem* to be in the slp.conf file (at least of the
DA's) but what do I know?), in that, other services seem to register for
each server.

Only the "service:bindery.novell" seems reluctant to register for all
servers.  The same 8 servers (2 NW, 6 Linux) show, "expire" and "renew".
None of the others seem inclined to do so.

There are multiple IP's on some of the boxes, so I will try to do the
interface specification thing.

So, no one takes issue with my assumption that "service:bindery.novell"
should register for each server that is running eDirectory?

joe a.

>>> <TJohnson at lancaster.wnyric.org> 07/21/09 6:34 PM >>>
Joe,

I have it working here and really have had no problems getting SLP working
on OES2 and OESSP1 on both SLES10SP1 and SP2. I have always gone in and
manually edited the slp.conf file and in addition I have always set the
slp.interface parameter, even on servers that are not multihomed. Not sure
if that will help but I only deviated from the docs on the interface
setting as standard in my setups.

HTH

T2



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A consultant I hired had problems getting slp on oes2 working and he
finally said the Yast was causing the problem by changing the case of the
entries in the conf. file.


>>> "joea at j4computers.com" <joea at j4computers.com> 07/21/09 8:22 AM >>>
After playing with openslp on oes1, find that leaving things at defaults
seems best.

net.slp.isDA = true, on DA's, of course.
And, as in NW, do not reference "yourself" in the slp.conf file as a DA.

But, seems, still, yet, with no resolution in sight, - "slptool findsrvs
service:bindery.novell", will only show, oh, 8, servers. There should be
over 20.

One presumes "service:bindery.novell" should register where ever eDirectory

is running (as readings imply). Since all have eDir (8.7.3 sp10b) and their

slp.conf seems identical, the problem must lie elsewhere. But, where else?

I have tried rcslpd restart and rcndsd stop/start (hoping edir would
register on startup),but, no joy.

joe a.

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From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:09:26 -0400
Subject: openslp oes1
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Can you be specific on what you changed in the conf file(s)?
 
joe a.

>>> <TJohnson at lancaster.wnyric.org> 07/21/09 8:24 PM >>> 
Joe, 

All eDir servers in all tress show for me when running the same slptool 
command, including entries for my cluster master Ip and all cluster 
resources. 

HTH 

T2 



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each server. 

Only the "service:bindery.novell" seems reluctant to register for all 
servers. The same 8 servers (2 NW, 6 Linux) show, "expire" and "renew". 
None of the others seem inclined to do so. 

There are multiple IP's on some of the boxes, so I will try to do the 
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So, no one takes issue with my assumption that "service:bindery.novell" 
should register for each server that is running eDirectory? 

joe a. 

>>> <TJohnson at lancaster.wnyric.org> 07/21/09 6:34 PM >>> 
Joe, 

I have it working here and really have had no problems getting SLP working 
on OES2 and OESSP1 on both SLES10SP1 and SP2. I have always gone in and 
manually edited the slp.conf file and in addition I have always set the 
slp.interface parameter, even on servers that are not multihomed. Not sure 
if that will help but I only deviated from the docs on the interface 
setting as standard in my setups. 

HTH 

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A consultant I hired had problems getting slp on oes2 working and he 
finally said the Yast was causing the problem by changing the case of the 
entries in the conf. file. 


>>> "joea at j4computers.com" <joea at j4computers.com> 07/21/09 8:22 AM >>> 
After playing with openslp on oes1, find that leaving things at defaults 
seems best. 

net.slp.isDA = true, on DA's, of course. 
And, as in NW, do not reference "yourself" in the slp.conf file as a DA. 

But, seems, still, yet, with no resolution in sight, - "slptool findsrvs 
service:bindery.novell", will only show, oh, 8, servers. There should be 
over 20. 

One presumes "service:bindery.novell" should register where ever eDirectory 

is running (as readings imply). Since all have eDir (8.7.3 sp10b) and their 

slp.conf seems identical, the problem must lie elsewhere. But, where else? 

I have tried rcslpd restart and rcndsd stop/start (hoping edir would 
register on startup),but, no joy. 

joe a. 

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From rpd at co.mason.wa.us  Tue Jul 21 22:46:14 2009
From: rpd at co.mason.wa.us (Bob Deans)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:46:14 -0700
Subject: openslp oes1
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Contact <SPAN class=Title><A style="COLOR: blue" href="mailto:serreze at foxinternet.net" target=_blank>serreze at foxinternet.net for the details on how he had do modify the conf file to fix what Yast did. 
<SPAN class=Title> 
<SPAN class=Title>Thanks



>>> "joea at j4computers.com" <joea at j4computers.com> 07/21/09 12:10 PM >>> 
Can you be specific on what you changed in the conf file(s)? 

joe a. 

>>> <TJohnson at lancaster.wnyric.org> 07/21/09 8:24 PM >>> 
Joe, 

All eDir servers in all tress show for me when running the same slptool 
command, including entries for my cluster master Ip and all cluster 
resources. 

HTH 

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The problem does not *seem* to be in the slp.conf file (at least of the 
DA's) but what do I know?), in that, other services seem to register for 
each server. 

Only the "service:bindery.novell" seems reluctant to register for all 
servers. The same 8 servers (2 NW, 6 Linux) show, "expire" and "renew". 
None of the others seem inclined to do so. 

There are multiple IP's on some of the boxes, so I will try to do the 
interface specification thing. 

So, no one takes issue with my assumption that "service:bindery.novell" 
should register for each server that is running eDirectory? 

joe a. 

>>> <TJohnson at lancaster.wnyric.org> 07/21/09 6:34 PM >>> 
Joe, 

I have it working here and really have had no problems getting SLP working 
on OES2 and OESSP1 on both SLES10SP1 and SP2. I have always gone in and 
manually edited the slp.conf file and in addition I have always set the 
slp.interface parameter, even on servers that are not multihomed. Not sure 
if that will help but I only deviated from the docs on the interface 
setting as standard in my setups. 

HTH 

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A consultant I hired had problems getting slp on oes2 working and he 
finally said the Yast was causing the problem by changing the case of the 
entries in the conf. file. 


>>> "joea at j4computers.com" <joea at j4computers.com> 07/21/09 8:22 AM >>> 
After playing with openslp on oes1, find that leaving things at defaults 
seems best. 

net.slp.isDA = true, on DA's, of course. 
And, as in NW, do not reference "yourself" in the slp.conf file as a DA. 

But, seems, still, yet, with no resolution in sight, - "slptool findsrvs 
service:bindery.novell", will only show, oh, 8, servers. There should be 
over 20. 

One presumes "service:bindery.novell" should register where ever eDirectory 

is running (as readings imply). Since all have eDir (8.7.3 sp10b) and their 

slp.conf seems identical, the problem must lie elsewhere. But, where else? 

I have tried rcslpd restart and rcndsd stop/start (hoping edir would 
register on startup),but, no joy. 

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From petervl at gmail.com  Wed Jul 22 12:56:18 2009
From: petervl at gmail.com (Peter Van Lone)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 06:56:18 -0500
Subject: OES2 sp1 install guidelines/check-list?
Message-ID: <68b791330907220456g55e63cc3mf0110fd77311ed3d@mail.gmail.com>

I'm about to do my first ever OES installation into an existing tree.
The system will be virtual running on VMware 3.5. A GW system is going
to be upgraded to 8 in place on a Netware host, and then migrated to
this OES install.

Anyone have a step-through/gotchas/"don't forget to" list that you use
for OES installs?

I've never touched or installed OES: Just accepting all defaults
should be flawless? Do I need the NCP stuff? Should GW be on NSS?
Should NSS/LVM and the GW data volume be created during installation,
or best to wait after, or does it not matter?

Yes, yes -- I should extensively lab this before even contemplating a
production process. Ya -- right -- this is not academia and I have no
access to hardware and no time. So, I lean on others who bled before
me ...

P


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From joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk  Wed Jul 22 13:20:31 2009
From: joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk (Joe Doupnik)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:20:31 +0100
Subject: OES2 sp1 install guidelines/check-list?
In-Reply-To: <68b791330907220456g55e63cc3mf0110fd77311ed3d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <68b791330907220456g55e63cc3mf0110fd77311ed3d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A67040F.90704@oucs.ox.ac.uk>

Peter Van Lone wrote:
> I'm about to do my first ever OES installation into an existing tree.
> The system will be virtual running on VMware 3.5. A GW system is going
> to be upgraded to 8 in place on a Netware host, and then migrated to
> this OES install.
> 
> Anyone have a step-through/gotchas/"don't forget to" list that you use
> for OES installs?
> 
> I've never touched or installed OES: Just accepting all defaults
> should be flawless? Do I need the NCP stuff? Should GW be on NSS?
> Should NSS/LVM and the GW data volume be created during installation,
> or best to wait after, or does it not matter?
> 
> Yes, yes -- I should extensively lab this before even contemplating a
> production process. Ya -- right -- this is not academia and I have no
> access to hardware and no time. So, I lean on others who bled before
> me ...
> 
> P
---------
Peter,
	I hate to say this, but I must concur with the standard advice of
learning the systems before you deploy them. From your descriptions above
I think you do have a way to go. Accepting defaults is not the way to
proceed. Alas, there isn't a simple email-able check list for this work.
But to help you a little, GW has worked well here on NSS volumes, but think
twice before you cluster things.
	Joe D.

From petervl at gmail.com  Wed Jul 22 13:25:39 2009
From: petervl at gmail.com (Peter Van Lone)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 07:25:39 -0500
Subject: OES2 sp1 install guidelines/check-list?
In-Reply-To: <4A67040F.90704@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
References: <68b791330907220456g55e63cc3mf0110fd77311ed3d@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A67040F.90704@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <68b791330907220525r919653egbbb68cbc02d02243@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Joe Doupnik<joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
> ---------
> Peter,
> ? ? ? ?I hate to say this, but I must concur with the standard advice of
> learning the systems before you deploy them. From your descriptions above
> I think you do have a way to go. Accepting defaults is not the way to
> proceed. Alas, there isn't a simple email-able check list for this work.

perhaps that's one of the reasons that VARs have not flooded to it,
and customers decide to migrate away, instead of tackling this
prospect, eh?

I've installed win2k8 blind -- in a VM -- and then installed Exchange
2008 also blind (ie the first time I had ever seen it). Hmm ... the
system is in production and working fine, still.

ding ding ding -- a light goes on?

From joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk  Wed Jul 22 13:34:33 2009
From: joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk (Joe R. Doupnik)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:34:33 +0100
Subject: OES2 sp1 install guidelines/check-list?
In-Reply-To: <68b791330907220525r919653egbbb68cbc02d02243@mail.gmail.com>
References: <68b791330907220456g55e63cc3mf0110fd77311ed3d@mail.gmail.com>	<4A67040F.90704@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
	<68b791330907220525r919653egbbb68cbc02d02243@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A670759.1010401@oucs.ox.ac.uk>

Peter Van Lone wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Joe Doupnik<joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
>> ---------
>> Peter,
>>        I hate to say this, but I must concur with the standard advice of
>> learning the systems before you deploy them. From your descriptions above
>> I think you do have a way to go. Accepting defaults is not the way to
>> proceed. Alas, there isn't a simple email-able check list for this work.
> 
> perhaps that's one of the reasons that VARs have not flooded to it,
> and customers decide to migrate away, instead of tackling this
> prospect, eh?
> 
> I've installed win2k8 blind -- in a VM -- and then installed Exchange
> 2008 also blind (ie the first time I had ever seen it). Hmm ... the
> system is in production and working fine, still.
> 
> ding ding ding -- a light goes on?
--------------
	Flexibility does involve choice, which in turn requires knowledge
to choose wisely.
	Joe D.

From petervl at gmail.com  Wed Jul 22 14:02:07 2009
From: petervl at gmail.com (Peter Van Lone)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 08:02:07 -0500
Subject: OES2 sp1 install guidelines/check-list?
In-Reply-To: <4A670759.1010401@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
References: <68b791330907220456g55e63cc3mf0110fd77311ed3d@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A67040F.90704@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
	<68b791330907220525r919653egbbb68cbc02d02243@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A670759.1010401@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <68b791330907220602y39af192fq209810fae59f4e5d@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 7:34 AM, Joe R.
Doupnik<joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
> --------------
> ? ? ? ?Flexibility does involve choice, which in turn requires knowledge
> to choose wisely.


hahahaha

ya, that's it. Not that the product is unpolished, or poorly conceived
in any way ... it's just very "flexible" and "powerful" ...

From petervl at gmail.com  Wed Jul 22 14:09:49 2009
From: petervl at gmail.com (Peter Van Lone)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 08:09:49 -0500
Subject: OES2 sp1 install guidelines/check-list?
In-Reply-To: <68b791330907220602y39af192fq209810fae59f4e5d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <68b791330907220456g55e63cc3mf0110fd77311ed3d@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A67040F.90704@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
	<68b791330907220525r919653egbbb68cbc02d02243@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A670759.1010401@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
	<68b791330907220602y39af192fq209810fae59f4e5d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <68b791330907220609h36e2e592ja7532df4357f3451@mail.gmail.com>

ok, now that I've had a chance to wipe away my tears from laughing
hysterically ---

anyone here actually installed this product more than a few times, and
in the process developed an installation checklist/best practice for
general use?

I'm looking for exactly the kind of thing that we produce for VMware
and XEN and Windows and Exchange and MS SQL installations -- but we
simply do not have enough experience with OES to have done such yet.

Anyone?




On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Peter Van Lone<petervl at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 7:34 AM, Joe R.
> Doupnik<joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
>> --------------
>> ? ? ? ?Flexibility does involve choice, which in turn requires knowledge
>> to choose wisely.
>
>
> hahahaha
>
> ya, that's it. Not that the product is unpolished, or poorly conceived
> in any way ... it's just very "flexible" and "powerful" ...
>

From joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk  Wed Jul 22 14:25:36 2009
From: joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk (Joe Doupnik)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:25:36 +0100
Subject: OES2 sp1 install guidelines/check-list?
In-Reply-To: <68b791330907220609h36e2e592ja7532df4357f3451@mail.gmail.com>
References: <68b791330907220456g55e63cc3mf0110fd77311ed3d@mail.gmail.com>	<4A67040F.90704@oucs.ox.ac.uk>	<68b791330907220525r919653egbbb68cbc02d02243@mail.gmail.com>	<4A670759.1010401@oucs.ox.ac.uk>	<68b791330907220602y39af192fq209810fae59f4e5d@mail.gmail.com>
	<68b791330907220609h36e2e592ja7532df4357f3451@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A671350.8050503@oucs.ox.ac.uk>

Peter Van Lone wrote:
> ok, now that I've had a chance to wipe away my tears from laughing
> hysterically ---
> 
> anyone here actually installed this product more than a few times, and
> in the process developed an installation checklist/best practice for
> general use?
> 
> I'm looking for exactly the kind of thing that we produce for VMware
> and XEN and Windows and Exchange and MS SQL installations -- but we
> simply do not have enough experience with OES to have done such yet.
> 
> Anyone?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Peter Van Lone<petervl at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 7:34 AM, Joe R.
>> Doupnik<joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
>>> --------------
>>>        Flexibility does involve choice, which in turn requires knowledge
>>> to choose wisely.
>>
>> hahahaha
>>
>> ya, that's it. Not that the product is unpolished, or poorly conceived
>> in any way ... it's just very "flexible" and "powerful" ...
>>
-----------
	Let's see how this works. You are dealing with a paying customer, perhaps
as a consultant. You say you haven't dug into the products. You denigrate them because
they are not of the kind where one size fits all/no choices required, thus requiring
knowledge. And then you want someone here to tell you how to do the work, in detail,
for free. I do have the impression that this might not be the best approach to a solution.
	Joe D.

From petervl at gmail.com  Wed Jul 22 15:41:29 2009
From: petervl at gmail.com (Peter Van Lone)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 09:41:29 -0500
Subject: OES2 sp1 install guidelines/check-list?
In-Reply-To: <4A671350.8050503@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
References: <68b791330907220456g55e63cc3mf0110fd77311ed3d@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A67040F.90704@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
	<68b791330907220525r919653egbbb68cbc02d02243@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A670759.1010401@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
	<68b791330907220602y39af192fq209810fae59f4e5d@mail.gmail.com>
	<68b791330907220609h36e2e592ja7532df4357f3451@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A671350.8050503@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
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too clever by 1/2 joe ... I'll respond to the sillyness when I am back
in the office.

But for now thank you to the individual who provided the very useful
document off-list!

On 7/22/09, Joe Doupnik <joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
> Peter Van Lone wrote:
>> ok, now that I've had a chance to wipe away my tears from laughing
>> hysterically ---
>>
>> anyone here actually installed this product more than a few times, and
>> in the process developed an installation checklist/best practice for
>> general use?
>>
>> I'm looking for exactly the kind of thing that we produce for VMware
>> and XEN and Windows and Exchange and MS SQL installations -- but we
>> simply do not have enough experience with OES to have done such yet.
>>
>> Anyone?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Peter Van Lone<petervl at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 7:34 AM, Joe R.
>>> Doupnik<joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>> --------------
>>>>        Flexibility does involve choice, which in turn requires knowledge
>>>> to choose wisely.
>>>
>>> hahahaha
>>>
>>> ya, that's it. Not that the product is unpolished, or poorly conceived
>>> in any way ... it's just very "flexible" and "powerful" ...
>>>
> -----------
> 	Let's see how this works. You are dealing with a paying customer, perhaps
> as a consultant. You say you haven't dug into the products. You denigrate
> them because
> they are not of the kind where one size fits all/no choices required, thus
> requiring
> knowledge. And then you want someone here to tell you how to do the work, in
> detail,
> for free. I do have the impression that this might not be the best approach
> to a solution.
> 	Joe D.
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From joea at j4computers.com  Thu Jul 23 06:48:16 2009
From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 01:48:16 -0400
Subject: openslp oes1
In-Reply-To: <4A65D4B6020000200001D51C@GWISE.co.mason.wa.us>
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Translation, please.

joe a.

>>> On 7/21/2009 at 5:46 PM, "Bob Deans" <rpd at co.mason.wa.us> wrote:
> Contact <SPAN class=Title><A style="COLOR: blue" 
> href="mailto:serreze at foxinternet.net" target=_blank>serreze at foxinternet.net 
> for the details on how he had do modify the conf file to fix what Yast did. 
> <SPAN class=Title> 
> <SPAN class=Title>Thanks
> 
> 
> 
>>>> "joea at j4computers.com" <joea at j4computers.com> 07/21/09 12:10 PM >>> 
> Can you be specific on what you changed in the conf file(s)? 
> 
> joe a. 
> 
>>>> <TJohnson at lancaster.wnyric.org> 07/21/09 8:24 PM >>> 
> Joe, 
> 
> All eDir servers in all tress show for me when running the same slptool 
> command, including entries for my cluster master Ip and all cluster 
> resources. 
> 
> HTH 
> 
> T2 
> 
> 
> 
> "joea at j4computers 
> .com" 
> <joea at j4computers To 
> .com> <novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk> 
> Sent by: cc 
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> 
> 
> 07/21/2009 01:53 
> PM 
> 
> 
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> Novell LAN 
> Interest Group 
> <novell at netlab1.o 
> ucs.ox.ac.uk> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The problem does not *seem* to be in the slp.conf file (at least of the 
> DA's) but what do I know?), in that, other services seem to register for 
> each server. 
> 
> Only the "service:bindery.novell" seems reluctant to register for all 
> servers. The same 8 servers (2 NW, 6 Linux) show, "expire" and "renew". 
> None of the others seem inclined to do so. 
> 
> There are multiple IP's on some of the boxes, so I will try to do the 
> interface specification thing. 
> 
> So, no one takes issue with my assumption that "service:bindery.novell" 
> should register for each server that is running eDirectory? 
> 
> joe a. 
> 
>>>> <TJohnson at lancaster.wnyric.org> 07/21/09 6:34 PM >>> 
> Joe, 
> 
> I have it working here and really have had no problems getting SLP working 
> on OES2 and OESSP1 on both SLES10SP1 and SP2. I have always gone in and 
> manually edited the slp.conf file and in addition I have always set the 
> slp.interface parameter, even on servers that are not multihomed. Not sure 
> if that will help but I only deviated from the docs on the interface 
> setting as standard in my setups. 
> 
> HTH 
> 
> T2 
> 
> 
> 
> "Bob Deans" 
> <rpd at co.mason.wa. 
> us> To 
> Sent by: <novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk> 
> novell-bounces at ne cc 
> tlab1.oucs.ox.ac. 
> uk Subject 
> Re: openslp oes1 
> 
> 07/21/2009 12:20 
> PM 
> 
> 
> Please respond to 
> Novell LAN 
> Interest Group 
> <novell at netlab1.o 
> ucs.ox.ac.uk> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> A consultant I hired had problems getting slp on oes2 working and he 
> finally said the Yast was causing the problem by changing the case of the 
> entries in the conf. file. 
> 
> 
>>>> "joea at j4computers.com" <joea at j4computers.com> 07/21/09 8:22 AM >>> 
> After playing with openslp on oes1, find that leaving things at defaults 
> seems best. 
> 
> net.slp.isDA = true, on DA's, of course. 
> And, as in NW, do not reference "yourself" in the slp.conf file as a DA. 
> 
> But, seems, still, yet, with no resolution in sight, - "slptool findsrvs 
> service:bindery.novell", will only show, oh, 8, servers. There should be 
> over 20. 
> 
> One presumes "service:bindery.novell" should register where ever eDirectory 
> 
> is running (as readings imply). Since all have eDir (8.7.3 sp10b) and their 
> 
> slp.conf seems identical, the problem must lie elsewhere. But, where else? 
> 
> I have tried rcslpd restart and rcndsd stop/start (hoping edir would 
> register on startup),but, no joy. 
> 
> joe a. 
> 
> _______________________________________________ 
> Novell mailing list 
> Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk 
> http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell 
> 
> _______________________________________________ 
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> Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk 
> http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell 
> 





From petervl at gmail.com  Thu Jul 23 00:02:14 2009
From: petervl at gmail.com (Peter Van Lone)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 18:02:14 -0500
Subject: openslp oes1
In-Reply-To: <4A67C160020000850006022A@FS-LIN-OES>
References: <4A65D4B6020000200001D51C@GWISE.co.mason.wa.us>
	<4A67C160020000850006022A@FS-LIN-OES>
Message-ID: <68b791330907221602m48c49e5ejb7ad338efbf0f1f0@mail.gmail.com>

I think he means: "email this dude to find out details" ...


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On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:48 AM,
joea at j4computers.com<joea at j4computers.com> wrote:
> Translation, please.
>
> joe a.
>
>>>> On 7/21/2009 at 5:46 PM, "Bob Deans" <rpd at co.mason.wa.us> wrote:
>> Contact <SPAN class=Title><A style="COLOR: blue"
>> href="mailto:serreze at foxinternet.net" target=_blank>serreze at foxinternet.net
>> for the details on how he had do modify the conf file to fix what Yast did.
>> <SPAN class=Title>
>> <SPAN class=Title>Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>>>>> "joea at j4computers.com" <joea at j4computers.com> 07/21/09 12:10 PM >>>
>> Can you be specific on what you changed in the conf file(s)?
>>
>> joe a.
>>
>>>>> <TJohnson at lancaster.wnyric.org> 07/21/09 8:24 PM >>>
>> Joe,
>>
>> All eDir servers in all tress show for me when running the same slptool
>> command, including entries for my cluster master Ip and all cluster
>> resources.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> T2
>>
>>
>>
>> "joea at j4computers
>> .com"
>> <joea at j4computers To
>> .com> <novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk>
>> Sent by: cc
>> novell-bounces at ne
>> tlab1.oucs.ox.ac. Subject
>> uk Re: openslp oes1
>>
>>
>> 07/21/2009 01:53
>> PM
>>
>>
>> Please respond to
>> Novell LAN
>> Interest Group
>> <novell at netlab1.o
>> ucs.ox.ac.uk>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The problem does not *seem* to be in the slp.conf file (at least of the
>> DA's) but what do I know?), in that, other services seem to register for
>> each server.
>>
>> Only the "service:bindery.novell" seems reluctant to register for all
>> servers. The same 8 servers (2 NW, 6 Linux) show, "expire" and "renew".
>> None of the others seem inclined to do so.
>>
>> There are multiple IP's on some of the boxes, so I will try to do the
>> interface specification thing.
>>
>> So, no one takes issue with my assumption that "service:bindery.novell"
>> should register for each server that is running eDirectory?
>>
>> joe a.
>>
>>>>> <TJohnson at lancaster.wnyric.org> 07/21/09 6:34 PM >>>
>> Joe,
>>
>> I have it working here and really have had no problems getting SLP working
>> on OES2 and OESSP1 on both SLES10SP1 and SP2. I have always gone in and
>> manually edited the slp.conf file and in addition I have always set the
>> slp.interface parameter, even on servers that are not multihomed. Not sure
>> if that will help but I only deviated from the docs on the interface
>> setting as standard in my setups.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> T2
>>
>>
>>
>> "Bob Deans"
>> <rpd at co.mason.wa.
>> us> To
>> Sent by: <novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk>
>> novell-bounces at ne cc
>> tlab1.oucs.ox.ac.
>> uk Subject
>> Re: openslp oes1
>>
>> 07/21/2009 12:20
>> PM
>>
>>
>> Please respond to
>> Novell LAN
>> Interest Group
>> <novell at netlab1.o
>> ucs.ox.ac.uk>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> A consultant I hired had problems getting slp on oes2 working and he
>> finally said the Yast was causing the problem by changing the case of the
>> entries in the conf. file.
>>
>>
>>>>> "joea at j4computers.com" <joea at j4computers.com> 07/21/09 8:22 AM >>>
>> After playing with openslp on oes1, find that leaving things at defaults
>> seems best.
>>
>> net.slp.isDA = true, on DA's, of course.
>> And, as in NW, do not reference "yourself" in the slp.conf file as a DA.
>>
>> But, seems, still, yet, with no resolution in sight, - "slptool findsrvs
>> service:bindery.novell", will only show, oh, 8, servers. There should be
>> over 20.
>>
>> One presumes "service:bindery.novell" should register where ever eDirectory
>>
>> is running (as readings imply). Since all have eDir (8.7.3 sp10b) and their
>>
>> slp.conf seems identical, the problem must lie elsewhere. But, where else?
>>
>> I have tried rcslpd restart and rcndsd stop/start (hoping edir would
>> register on startup),but, no joy.
>>
>> joe a.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Novell mailing list
>> Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
>> http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Novell mailing list
>> Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
>> http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell
>>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Novell mailing list
> Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
> http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell
>

From larry at ladyburd.com  Thu Jul 23 14:11:59 2009
From: larry at ladyburd.com (Larry Burd)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:11:59 -0400
Subject: dual domains
References: <mailman.590.1248268197.3834.novell@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <85E1712F966C48C5B6D028F486B8F18C@ladyburd.local>

I have 2 distinct work groups here.  20 work stations each.  40 workstations 
total.  All workstations are XP, new hardward, 2 gig ram, everything is 
pretty much new and up to date on the workstation side.
The 1st group only attaches to my MS SBS 2008 server.   (this group runs 
fast)
The 2nd group attaches to my NW 5.1 server, and my SBS 2008 server, with NW 
client 4.91 SP5.  It's a single signon, the passwords and names are synced 
across both worlds.

The 2nd group that sees both worlds, when they open any document that sits 
on the SBS server, it can take 50-60 seconds until the document opens up.
But anything that sits on the novell server is very quick to open.
If I remove the Novell Client, the machine will run full speed.   If I 
reinstall the NW client, it will then again slow down the process of 
accessing the SBS server.

Is there a setting I am over looking in the client properties ?
I have to run True Commit, and No Caching on the novell client due to a 
legancy accounting program,  but I can't see that affecting my SBS access.

Any clues would be appreaciated.
I even removed all W/S antivirus software, and nothing changed.

Thanks
Larry 


From cal.frye at oberlin.edu  Thu Jul 23 14:21:05 2009
From: cal.frye at oberlin.edu (Cal Frye)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:21:05 -0400
Subject: dual domains
In-Reply-To: <85E1712F966C48C5B6D028F486B8F18C@ladyburd.local>
References: <mailman.590.1248268197.3834.novell@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk>
	<85E1712F966C48C5B6D028F486B8F18C@ladyburd.local>
Message-ID: <4A6863C1.4000005@oberlin.edu>

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Larry Burd wrote:
> The 2nd group that sees both worlds, when they open any document that
> sits on the SBS server, it can take 50-60 seconds until the document
> opens up.
> But anything that sits on the novell server is very quick to open.
> If I remove the Novell Client, the machine will run full speed.   If I
> reinstall the NW client, it will then again slow down the process of
> accessing the SBS server.

Hi, Larry,
Sure sounds like the workstation is timing out searching for the Windows
resource before moving on to success.

Try entering the Netbios name of the Windows server in the workstation's
hosts file, along with the fully-qualified domain name, and see if
simple name resolution is the issue, i.e:

	192.168.1.2	Win-Server
	192.168.1.2	Win-Server.ladyburd.com

This is an annoying way to fix the issue, but a quick way to narrow in
on the problem...  Good luck.

- --
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Species.
- -- Cal Frye, Network Administrator, Oberlin College
   Mudd Library, x.56930 -- CIT will NEVER ask you for your password!

   www.calfrye.com,  www.pitalabs.com

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From Simon.Pollard at barnet.ac.uk  Thu Jul 23 14:21:15 2009
From: Simon.Pollard at barnet.ac.uk (Simon Pollard)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:21:15 +0100
Subject: dual domains
In-Reply-To: <85E1712F966C48C5B6D028F486B8F18C@ladyburd.local>
References: <mailman.590.1248268197.3834.novell@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk>
	<85E1712F966C48C5B6D028F486B8F18C@ladyburd.local>
Message-ID: <EDB47A2F10617E4095AE70CBBC723F61016601E0@oak.bc-ad.barnet.ac.uk>

I'm going to guess Provider Order (Network Connections control panel,
Advanced Menu, Advanced Settings, Provider Order tab).

On the Novell workstations the Novell/NetWare services will almost
certainly be top of the 'Network Providers' list, which means when you
connect to a server the first thing it will try to do is try to talk to
it on the Novell NCP port, 524. The SBS server most likely has this
firewalled, which means the workstations will have to wait for this
connection to time out and fail before it tries the correct Windows port
(445).

The easiest solution to this is to move the Microsoft Windows Network
provider to the top so that that's what it tries to connect with first.
Presumably the 5.1 server doesn't have a firewall enabled on it, so you
won't get the reverse problem.

-- 
  Simon Pollard
  IT Services, Barnet College

-----Original Message-----
From: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Larry Burd
Sent: 23 July 2009 14:12
To: novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
Subject: dual domains

I have 2 distinct work groups here.  20 work stations each.  40
workstations 
total.  All workstations are XP, new hardward, 2 gig ram, everything is 
pretty much new and up to date on the workstation side.
The 1st group only attaches to my MS SBS 2008 server.   (this group runs

fast)
The 2nd group attaches to my NW 5.1 server, and my SBS 2008 server, with
NW 
client 4.91 SP5.  It's a single signon, the passwords and names are
synced 
across both worlds.

The 2nd group that sees both worlds, when they open any document that
sits 
on the SBS server, it can take 50-60 seconds until the document opens
up.
But anything that sits on the novell server is very quick to open.
If I remove the Novell Client, the machine will run full speed.   If I 
reinstall the NW client, it will then again slow down the process of 
accessing the SBS server.
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From joea at j4computers.com  Thu Jul 23 15:10:56 2009
From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:10:56 -0400
Subject: Know this IP?
Message-ID: <4A68B0BD0200008500060232@FS-LIN-OES>

Anyone know who this is? - 184.90.8.8
 
??
 
joe a.
 


From Chris.Nevener at networkingpartner.com  Thu Jul 23 15:19:22 2009
From: Chris.Nevener at networkingpartner.com (Chris Nevener)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:19:22 +0200
Subject: Antw: Know this IP?
In-Reply-To: <4A68B0BD0200008500060232@FS-LIN-OES>
References: <4A68B0BD0200008500060232@FS-LIN-OES>
Message-ID: <4A688D8A.F9B1.005C.0@networkingpartner.com>

Mulder and Scully. That is military.
 
Why??
 
Cheers
Chris

>>> "joea at j4computers.com" <joea at j4computers.com> 23.07.2009 16:10 >>>
Anyone know who this is? - 184.90.8.8

??

joe a.


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From Robrinsky at roillc.com  Thu Jul 23 15:23:47 2009
From: Robrinsky at roillc.com (Robert Obrinsky)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 07:23:47 -0700
Subject: Know this IP?
In-Reply-To: <4A68B0BD0200008500060232@FS-LIN-OES>
References: <4A68B0BD0200008500060232@FS-LIN-OES>
Message-ID: <4A6810030200006D0003A148@roi-03.roillc.com>

Here's all I found:
 
Timestamp: 07/23/09 07:17:20
Input Query: 184.90.8.8
Source DNS Server: 4.2.2.1
IP address: 184.90.8.8
Host Name: none found
IP Address is assigned to: Unassigned or assigned to IANA.org
 
Timestamp: 07/23/09 07:17:20
[Search Query: 184.90.8.8, Whois Server Used: whois.arin.net]
 
No match found for + 184.90.8.8.
 
# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2009-07-22 20:00
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.
What naughty things has it been doing?

>>> "joea at j4computers.com" <joea at j4computers.com> 7/23/2009 7:10 AM >>>
Anyone know who this is? - 184.90.8.8

??

joe a.


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From cal.frye at oberlin.edu  Thu Jul 23 15:41:22 2009
From: cal.frye at oberlin.edu (Cal Frye)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:41:22 -0400
Subject: Know this IP?
In-Reply-To: <4A68B0BD0200008500060232@FS-LIN-OES>
References: <4A68B0BD0200008500060232@FS-LIN-OES>
Message-ID: <4A687692.9060308@oberlin.edu>

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joea at j4computers.com wrote:
> Anyone know who this is? - 184.90.8.8

184/8 was formerly a bogon network, last December it was assigned to
ARIN. Hard to say who is using it now, or who was "appropriating" it
earlier.

- --
Celebrating the 150th anniversary of the publication of the Origin of
Species.
- -- Cal Frye, Network Administrator, Oberlin College
   Mudd Library, x.56930 -- CIT will NEVER ask you for your password!

   www.calfrye.com,  www.pitalabs.com

"To dream of the person you would like to be is to waste the person you
are." --Anon.
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From joea at j4computers.com  Thu Jul 23 15:43:35 2009
From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:43:35 -0400
Subject: Know this IP?
Message-ID: <4A68B8DB0200008500060241@FS-LIN-OES>

Have two DA's.  Was tracing DA registration, on one DA, for illumination of other issues, else this would not have been seen.
 
Found it in slpd.log as a "KNOWNDA - Removed", but could find no registration.  It was associated with the other DA's url. One began to wonder and sniff about.  Today's world, etc.
 
Turns out (or so it appears), a similar blub appears in the log, every time that DA is "restarted" (rcslpd restart) and the DA de-registers.  It appears to throw in a random IP each time this is done.
 
I guess it is a bug.
 
joe a.

>>> "Robert Obrinsky" <Robrinsky at roillc.com> 07/23/09 7:11 PM >>> 
Here's all I found: 

Timestamp: 07/23/09 07:17:20 
Input Query: 184.90.8.8 
Source DNS Server: 4.2.2.1 
IP address: 184.90.8.8 
Host Name: none found 
IP Address is assigned to: Unassigned or assigned to IANA.org 

Timestamp: 07/23/09 07:17:20 
[Search Query: 184.90.8.8, Whois Server Used: whois.arin.net] 

No match found for + 184.90.8.8. 

# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2009-07-22 20:00 
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database. 
What naughty things has it been doing? 

>>> "joea at j4computers.com" <joea at j4computers.com> 7/23/2009 7:10 AM >>> 
Anyone know who this is? - 184.90.8.8 

?? 

joe a. 


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From MGlenn at cco.state.oh.us  Thu Jul 23 15:58:29 2009
From: MGlenn at cco.state.oh.us (Michael Glenn)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:58:29 -0400
Subject: Know this IP?
In-Reply-To: <4A68B0BD0200008500060232@FS-LIN-OES>
References: <4A68B0BD0200008500060232@FS-LIN-OES>
Message-ID: <4A684254.33FD.002C.1@cco.state.oh.us>

I can't find an owner, and nothing in 184.90/16 returns a ping.

Looks like No-man's Land. Getting a DoS from out that way?


>>> "joea at j4computers.com" <joea at j4computers.com> 07/23/2009 10:10 >>>
Anyone know who this is? - 184.90.8.8
 
??
 
joe a.


From larry at ladyburd.com  Thu Jul 23 17:02:45 2009
From: larry at ladyburd.com (Larry Burd)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:02:45 -0400
Subject: dual domains
References: <mailman.86.1228139572.21342.novell@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <3C87424A51D4432C926B42757936C227@ladyburd.local>

Cal Frye
Simon Pollard

you guys are the snitz !!!
problem solved !
I implemented both suggestions, and the data is flying accross old 10/100 
hubs, and switches.
when I get new switches in here, we'll really be smoking.

Much appreaciated !
Larry Burd. 


From desai.hem at gmail.com  Thu Jul 23 18:54:55 2009
From: desai.hem at gmail.com (Hem Desai)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:54:55 -0500
Subject: Know this IP?
In-Reply-To: <4A68B0BD0200008500060232@FS-LIN-OES>
References: <4A68B0BD0200008500060232@FS-LIN-OES>
Message-ID: <4a68a40e.231e640a.427d.36b3@mx.google.com>

Somewhere in DC

-----Original Message-----
From: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
[mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk] On Behalf Of
joea at j4computers.com
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 9:11 AM
To: novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk
Subject: Know this IP?

Anyone know who this is? - 184.90.8.8
 
??
 
joe a.
 

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From joe.acquisto at gmail.com  Fri Jul 24 20:06:07 2009
From: joe.acquisto at gmail.com (joe Acquisto)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:06:07 -0400
Subject: openslp oes1
In-Reply-To: <4A65F0970200008500060200@FS-LIN-OES>
References: <4A65F0970200008500060200@FS-LIN-OES>
Message-ID: <5e7da10a0907241206o460f6e18o98e1607418f8770d@mail.gmail.com>

Well, seems that applying the latest patches, via rug/red-carpet is solving
the problem.

At least, as we are in the process of patching, all the patched
machines begin registering eDirectory right after being patched.

joe a.

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:21 AM, joea at j4computers.com <joea at j4computers.com
> wrote:

> After playing with openslp on oes1, find that leaving things at  defaults
> seems best.
>
> net.slp.isDA = true,  on DA's, of course.
> And, as in NW, do not reference "yourself" in the slp.conf file as a DA.
>
> But, seems, still, yet, with no resolution in sight, -  "slptool findsrvs
> service:bindery.novell", will only show, oh, 8, servers.  There should be
> over 20.
>
> One presumes "service:bindery.novell" should register where ever eDirectory
> is running (as readings imply).  Since all have eDir (8.7.3 sp10b) and their
> slp.conf seems identical, the problem must lie elsewhere.  But, where else?
>
> I have tried rcslpd restart and rcndsd stop/start (hoping edir would
> register on startup),but, no joy.
>
> joe a.
>
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From joea at j4computers.com  Sun Jul 26 08:17:46 2009
From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com)
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 03:17:46 -0400
Subject: OES1 VMware guest, no IP on startup
Message-ID: <4A6BCADA020000850006025D@FS-LIN-OES>

Near OT, but I'd like to start here.  OES1 on a VMware server host, loses its network config on each power up.

ifconfig tells me only local IP, no eth0.

Running YAST, tells me the NIC it is already configured.  So, I do "finish".  Yep.  Works.  ifconfig shows both local and eth0.

Tried restarting network, (something restart) before running yast and it yells at me.  something does not exist, or words to that effect.  Sorry, did not record the actual message.   Running it after running yast, as above, at it does not complain.

Needless to say, this creates inconvenience when restarting machine.

joe a.


From joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk  Sat Jul 25 16:36:49 2009
From: joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk (jrd)
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 16:36:49 +0100
Subject: OES1 VMware guest, no IP on startup
In-Reply-To: <4A6BCADA020000850006025D@FS-LIN-OES>
References: <4A6BCADA020000850006025D@FS-LIN-OES>
Message-ID: <4A6B2691.5050907@oucs.ox.ac.uk>

joea at j4computers.com wrote:
> Near OT, but I'd like to start here.  OES1 on a VMware server host, loses its network config on each power up.
>
> ifconfig tells me only local IP, no eth0.
>
> Running YAST, tells me the NIC it is already configured.  So, I do "finish".  Yep.  Works.  ifconfig shows both local and eth0.
>
> Tried restarting network, (something restart) before running yast and it yells at me.  something does not exist, or words to that effect.  Sorry, did not record the actual message.   Running it after running yast, as above, at it does not complain.
>
> Needless to say, this creates inconvenience when restarting machine.
>
> joe a.
>   
       It is difficult to guess from this distance, but let me try one
thing. Linux, like NW, disconnects a lan adapter if it hears a packet
arrive with its own IP address as the source.
       Otherwise we would need more specifics, including the VMware
(whatever) lan setting.
       Joe D.

From James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com  Sat Jul 25 18:09:41 2009
From: James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com (James Taylor)
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:09:41 -0400
Subject: OES1 VMware guest, no IP on startup
In-Reply-To: <4A6BCADA020000850006025D@FS-LIN-OES>
References: <4A6BCADA020000850006025D@FS-LIN-OES>
Message-ID: <4A6B0415020000750003A18D@inet.eastcobbgroup.com>

I have found that, almost always, I have to remove and reinstall the adapter config after I install VMware tools.
It appears as though the vmware tools device looks like a different nic to linux. 
-jt

 

James Taylor
The East Cobb Group, Inc.
678-697-9420
james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com
http://www.eastcobbgroup.com




>>> "joea at j4computers.com" <joea at j4computers.com> 7/26/2009  03:17 AM >>> 
Near OT, but I'd like to start here.  OES1 on a VMware server host, loses its network config on each power up.

ifconfig tells me only local IP, no eth0.

Running YAST, tells me the NIC it is already configured.  So, I do "finish".  Yep.  Works.  ifconfig shows both local and eth0.

Tried restarting network, (something restart) before running yast and it yells at me.  something does not exist, or words to that effect.  Sorry, did not record the actual message.   Running it after running yast, as above, at it does not complain.

Needless to say, this creates inconvenience when restarting machine.

joe a.

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From joea at j4computers.com  Sun Jul 26 10:53:29 2009
From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com)
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 05:53:29 -0400
Subject: OES1 VMware guest, no IP on startup
In-Reply-To: <4A6B0415020000750003A18D@inet.eastcobbgroup.com>
References: <4A6BCADA020000850006025D@FS-LIN-OES>
	<4A6B0415020000750003A18D@inet.eastcobbgroup.com>
Message-ID: <4A6BEF590200008500060261@FS-LIN-OES>

You mean via yast or equivalent?

joe a.

>>> On 7/25/2009 at 1:09 PM, "James Taylor" <James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com>
wrote:
> I have found that, almost always, I have to remove and reinstall the adapter 
> config after I install VMware tools.
> It appears as though the vmware tools device looks like a different nic to 
> linux. 
> -jt
> 
>  
> 
> James Taylor
> The East Cobb Group, Inc.
> 678-697-9420
> james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com 
> http://www.eastcobbgroup.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>>> "joea at j4computers.com" <joea at j4computers.com> 7/26/2009  03:17 AM >>> 
> Near OT, but I'd like to start here.  OES1 on a VMware server host, loses 
> its network config on each power up.
> 
> ifconfig tells me only local IP, no eth0.
> 
> Running YAST, tells me the NIC it is already configured.  So, I do "finish". 
>  Yep.  Works.  ifconfig shows both local and eth0.
> 
> Tried restarting network, (something restart) before running yast and it 
> yells at me.  something does not exist, or words to that effect.  Sorry, did 
> not record the actual message.   Running it after running yast, as above, at 
> it does not complain.
> 
> Needless to say, this creates inconvenience when restarting machine.
> 
> joe a.
> 
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From James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com  Sat Jul 25 19:21:25 2009
From: James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com (James Taylor)
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 14:21:25 -0400
Subject: OES1 VMware guest, no IP on startup
In-Reply-To: <4A6BEF590200008500060261@FS-LIN-OES>
References: <4A6BCADA020000850006025D@FS-LIN-OES>
	<4A6B0415020000750003A18D@inet.eastcobbgroup.com>
	<4A6BEF590200008500060261@FS-LIN-OES>
Message-ID: <4A6B14E5020000750003A1A6@inet.eastcobbgroup.com>

Yes. I delete then reinstall the nic in yast.
-jt
 
 

James Taylor
The East Cobb Group, Inc.
678-697-9420
james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com
http://www.eastcobbgroup.com




>>> "joea at j4computers.com" <joea at j4computers.com> 7/26/2009  05:53 AM >>> 
You mean via yast or equivalent?

joe a.

>>> On 7/25/2009 at 1:09 PM, "James Taylor" <James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com>
wrote:
> I have found that, almost always, I have to remove and reinstall the adapter 
> config after I install VMware tools.
> It appears as though the vmware tools device looks like a different nic to 
> linux. 
> -jt
> 
>  
> 
> James Taylor
> The East Cobb Group, Inc.
> 678-697-9420
> james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com 
> http://www.eastcobbgroup.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>>> "joea at j4computers.com" <joea at j4computers.com> 7/26/2009  03:17 AM >>> 
> Near OT, but I'd like to start here.  OES1 on a VMware server host, loses 
> its network config on each power up.
> 
> ifconfig tells me only local IP, no eth0.
> 
> Running YAST, tells me the NIC it is already configured.  So, I do "finish". 
>  Yep.  Works.  ifconfig shows both local and eth0.
> 
> Tried restarting network, (something restart) before running yast and it 
> yells at me.  something does not exist, or words to that effect.  Sorry, did 
> not record the actual message.   Running it after running yast, as above, at 
> it does not complain.
> 
> Needless to say, this creates inconvenience when restarting machine.
> 
> joe a.
> 
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From Mark.Robinson at nds8.co.uk  Sat Jul 25 23:30:40 2009
From: Mark.Robinson at nds8.co.uk (Mark Robinson)
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 23:30:40 +0100
Subject: OES1 VMware guest, no IP on startup
In-Reply-To: <4A6B0415020000750003A18D@inet.eastcobbgroup.com>
References: <4A6BCADA020000850006025D@FS-LIN-OES>
	<4A6B0415020000750003A18D@inet.eastcobbgroup.com>
Message-ID: <4A6B95A0020000AD0001F20C@mail2.nds8.com>

>>> On 25 July, 2009 at 6:09 PM, in message
<4A6B0415020000750003A18D at inet.eastcobbgroup.com>, "James Taylor"
<James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com> wrote: 
> I have found that, almost always, I have to remove and reinstall the
adapter  
> config after I install VMware tools. 
> It appears as though the vmware tools device looks like a different
nic to  
> linux.  

Hmm, the MAC address of the NIC will not change, but once you've
installed VMware tools, a new driver becomes available: vmxnet.  You can
swap to this driver very easily using YaST.  Just go to the advanced
properties of your interface and choose vmxnet from the dropdown list
for the driver module.


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From mrsmith at oconee.k12.ga.us  Mon Jul 27 19:04:09 2009
From: mrsmith at oconee.k12.ga.us (Matt Smith)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:04:09 -0400
Subject: Universal Password issues?
Message-ID: <4A6DB252.E4C1.0068.0@oconee.k12.ga.us>

I'm having some real weirdness with my user's passwords.  We expire
passwords once a year.  It looks like passwords are expiring, but users
are not being prompted to change them when they use the novell client to
log in.  As a matter of fact, iManager is showing their password has
expired, but they can still log in to the desktop with their old
passwords.

However, we use LDAP authentication for Groupwise.  Once the user's
password has expired, the Groupwise client will notify the user that
they need to change their password.  So, I have reports that some users
are now using two different passwords. One for Groupwise, and one for
the desktop client.

It sounds to me like my Universal Password Policy is broken or my NDS
passwords are not synchronizing with the Universal Passwords.  I've
created a new UP policy and assigned it to all my relevant containers,
basically recreating what I had.  That didn't seem to make any real
difference.

I've tried running a DStrace, but haven't found anything yet.  Anyone
have any ideas?

-Matt

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Matt Smith                Network Technology Specialist
Oconee County School System, Oconee County, Georgia
Office of Instruction and Technology       706-769-5685 x1314

From Steven.Tharp at davenport.edu  Mon Jul 27 21:09:30 2009
From: Steven.Tharp at davenport.edu (Steven Tharp)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:09:30 -0400
Subject: Universal Password issues?
In-Reply-To: <4A6DB252.E4C1.0068.0@oconee.k12.ga.us>
References: <4A6DB252.E4C1.0068.0@oconee.k12.ga.us>
Message-ID: <4A6DD13D.C4E4.0040.0@davenport.edu>

Ideas
1) You know that the Novell client will not on its own tell people, I have this in my login script
"IF VALUE PASSWORD_EXPIRES <"15" THEN
    WRITE "%LOGIN_NAME Your Password is about to expire in %PASSWORD_EXPIRES days please change it now."
Pause
END" 
2) On the GroupWise security page you have the option to disable password changes through the client which I use because the GroupWise client does not really understand password polices and fails to give good massages to users so I do not want them using it. 
 
3) Also GroupWise supports two types of LDAP Bind and Compare we use compare because I do not want a user to use up the grace logins with GroupWise.    
Steven Tharp
Davenport University
 
 
>>> "Matt Smith" <mrsmith at oconee.k12.ga.us> 7/27/2009 2:04 PM >>>
I'm having some real weirdness with my user's passwords.  We expire
passwords once a year.  It looks like passwords are expiring, but users
are not being prompted to change them when they use the novell client to
log in.  As a matter of fact, iManager is showing their password has
expired, but they can still log in to the desktop with their old
passwords.

However, we use LDAP authentication for Groupwise.  Once the user's
password has expired, the Groupwise client will notify the user that
they need to change their password.  So, I have reports that some users
are now using two different passwords. One for Groupwise, and one for
the desktop client.

It sounds to me like my Universal Password Policy is broken or my NDS
passwords are not synchronizing with the Universal Passwords.  I've
created a new UP policy and assigned it to all my relevant containers,
basically recreating what I had.  That didn't seem to make any real
difference.

I've tried running a DStrace, but haven't found anything yet.  Anyone
have any ideas?

-Matt

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Oconee County School System, Oconee County, Georgia
Office of Instruction and Technology       706-769-5685 x1314
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From mrsmith at oconee.k12.ga.us  Mon Jul 27 21:17:27 2009
From: mrsmith at oconee.k12.ga.us (Matt Smith)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:17:27 -0400
Subject: Universal Password issues?
In-Reply-To: <4A6DD13D.C4E4.0040.0@davenport.edu>
References: <4A6DB252.E4C1.0068.0@oconee.k12.ga.us>
	<4A6DD13D.C4E4.0040.0@davenport.edu>
Message-ID: <4A6DD187.E4C1.0068.0@oconee.k12.ga.us>

>>> On 7/27/2009 at 4:09 PM, in message
<4A6DD13D.C4E4.0040.0 at davenport.edu>,
"Steven Tharp" <Steven.Tharp at davenport.edu> wrote:
> Ideas
> 1) You know that the Novell client will not on its own tell people, I
have 
> this in my login script
> "IF VALUE PASSWORD_EXPIRES <"15" THEN
>     WRITE "%LOGIN_NAME Your Password is about to expire in
%PASSWORD_EXPIRES 
> days please change it now."
> Pause
> END" 

We've been using UP for a couple of years now.  This is the first time
I've had this sort of problem.  Do others have issues with the client
not notifying people about expired passwords?

> 2) On the GroupWise security page you have the option to disable
password 
> changes through the client which I use because the GroupWise client
does not 
> really understand password polices and fails to give good massages to
users 
> so I do not want them using it. 

That's a thought, particularly in light of your suggestion #3.

>  
> 3) Also GroupWise supports two types of LDAP Bind and Compare we use
compare 
> because I do not want a user to use up the grace logins with
GroupWise.    

Awesome suggestion Steven!  One of the confounding issues for us has
been how Groupwise is using up grace logins.  It's certainly been
muddying the waters while we try to get a handle on the real issues. 
Thanks,

> Steven Tharp
> Davenport University


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Oconee County School System, Oconee County, Georgia
Office of Instruction and Technology       706-769-5685 x1314