From Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee Sun Mar 1 10:40:36 2009 From: Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee (Alar Pandis) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 12:40:36 +0200 Subject: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours References: <00c301c991df$68d9f9a0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> Message-ID: <009101c99a5a$28701ce0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> Hi and thanks again Randy! Tried, same happen. Seems to that at weekends it work some 36 hours and weekdays 25. More thanks, Alar. >>> Randy Grein RGrein at tpchd.org Thu Feb 26 17:23:37 GMT 2009 <<< What jumps out at me is the nonreferenced delay time - 30 minutes is a LONG time. It's been a while since I've had to deal with a traditional volume, but try cutting it back to 30 seconds - you can always bump it back up. I seem to recall some odd things happening with directory cache buffer exhaustion. Randy Grein Sr. Network Engineer -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 5:48 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi and thanks Randy! I'd load proxy with cc option on the second day, I think, when this start to happen ... some two weeks and few days ago. Right now proxy isn't loaded for week or so. In console log I see that just some bordermanager audit-nlm is autoloaded. Just for a case I add some parameters. May be You see something I don't. Machine is Pentium III 450 MHz (Intel motherboard), 3x256 Mb RAM (was 3x128 when this start to happen). Disk is 50 GB (sys, cache and cache1). Five 3Com NIC's. I'd replace memory, harddisk and power-supply. Original cache buffers 195891 Total cache buffers 162941 Long term cache hits (server up 9 hours) 67% and rising Packet receive buffers 5000 (min 5000, max 10000) Directory cache buffers 2051 (min 2000, max 5000) (When I normally restart server Directory cache buffers is about 1500+, but when it is restarted by force then it show 2000+.) Allocated memory pool 41529344 5% Cache buffer memory 667406336 83% Cache movable memory 0 0% Cache non-movable memory 167936 0 Code and data memory 93265920 12% Total server work memory 804845568 100% Tuneup mostly with settings from Craig Johnson. Set Maximum Packet Receive Buffers = 10000 Set Minimum Packet Receive Buffers = 5000 Set New Packet Receive Buffer Wait Time = 0.1 sec Set Maximum Interrupt Events = 50 Set Garbage Collection Interval = 5 min Set Read Ahead Enabled = on Set Maximum Concurrent Disk Cache Writes = 750 Set Dirty Disk Cache Delay Time = 0.1 sec Set Dirty Directory Cache Delay Time = 0.1 sec Set Maximum Concurrent Directory Cache Writes = 125 Set Directory Cache Allocation Wait Time = 0.1 sec Set Directory Cache Buffer NonReferenced delay = 30 min Set Minimum Directory Cache Buffers = 2000 Set Maximum Directory Cache Buffers = 5000 Set Maximum Number of Internal Directory Handles = 500 Set Immediate Purge of Deleted Files = on Set Enable File Compression = off Set Maximum File Locks = 100000 Set Enable Hardware Write Back = on Set Enable Disk Read After Write Verify = off Set Worker Thread Execute In A Row Count = 15 Set Pseudo Preemption Count = 200 Set Minimum Service Processes = 200 Set Maximum Service Processes = 500 More thanks, Alar. >>> Randy Grein RGrein at tpchd.org Thu Feb 26 15:31:29 GMT 2009 <<< One bare possibility occurs to me - have you cleared the proxy cache on this server yet? Randy Grein Sr. Network Engineer -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 1:08 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi again with still same problem! I have from outside network two ping addresses -- server itself and one email server behind. First start failed ping to email server, ping to server from outside and inside failed some minute(s) after that. And then console from server does work, but ... restart from console not. No error messages or whatsoever. After restart server work ok some 24-25 hours and same happen again. Yesterday we changed from one outside line to another, but probably problem lies not there. Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:47 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contactevery 24 hours Hi again! Did change hard disk and also power supply! But ... same problem. Interesting that after re(over)installing SP8 this time cycle did change from approximately from 24-25 hours to 34-35 hours! I'm lost! More thanks, Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 12:07 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contactevery 24 hours Perhaps I must replace a hard disk? Could there be problems NetWare can't recognize? I mean, show errors? No error appear during copying all files from this disk, for backup. Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 11:38 AM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contactevery 24 hours Hi again! Still. I'd reinstall SP8 and it hold on ... almost 36 hours and ... lost contact again! Loaded (from console) is just dhcp and DNS. Could it be NDS-related!? I can't see any memory lost, but may be I didn't look the right place!? Any further ideas? More thanks, Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:42 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contactevery 24 hours Hi again and thanks James! I'm agree -- this our NW 5.1 with BM 3.6 on top of it has done very good job, indeed! But now I'm thinking replace it with special firewall device like NSA 2400 from Sonicwall etc. I'm not sure. But, anyway, I can't do that in middle of working period, may be at summer or so. If something with this server more bad does not happen, I hope not. I'll wait until server does next unplanned stop as last day I'd removed from autoexec some SSL and FTP components still loaded with no use and then try to reinstall SP8. More thanks, Alar. >>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Feb 18 14:29:09 GMT 2009 >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Yes. Also, pay attention to any post sp8 updates that may have been applied. There may be some TCP updates since the original patch, so you want to make sure everything matches afterward. FYI - I'm still running both of my public DNS servers, with BM, on NW65sp8. I've had these servers (workstations, actually) running for over 7 years, and I need to update the hardware and replace then with linux servers, but they have been so rock solid, I hate to touch them. -jt James Taylor The East Cobb Group, Inc. 678-697-9420 james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com http://www.eastcobbgroup.com -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 4:16 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi again and thanks! Well, that's something! So, I just run SP8 again as I did it before? Probably I must change tcpip later back as it is for BM. More thanks, Alar. >>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Feb 18 13:43:31 GMT 2009 <<< Since this started occurring without any know related event, it may be an instance of file corruption somewhere. I have had strange, intermittent problems with no obvious cause that I have cured by reinstalling the latest support pack. It replaces a very large percentage of system files, so there is a good chance that, if there is a corrupted file, it will be replaced. It is a bit of a shotgun approach, but it doesn't usually take long and often works. -jt James Taylor The East Cobb Group, Inc. 678-697-9420 james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com http://www.eastcobbgroup.com -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 12:58 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi! As no reply for this, I little bit rephrase my question! As no BM stuff is loaded anymore I wonder where to look when NetWare 5.1 SP8 start act as described below?! (Well, it start act so being loaded also with BM stuff.) This machine is first between outside world. Almost nothing is loaded, just NAT and filtering as it still acts like firewall. And ... 24 hours and connection is broken, restart and again 24 hours. Any ideas? More thanks, Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:37 AM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi again! 24 hours and it looses all network connectivity and need restart. Sunday morning I'd replace all memory pieces and add twice as much memory. Also did clean it inside, little bit dusty. Nothing helps. Right now I see that directory cache buffers is by 34 over minimum 1700, but last time when I saw same and restart machine it decrease to 1110 or so. I have on server console just console, timesync debug screen, named, dhcpsrvr debug screen, novell ssl server handshake screen and monitor. Usually I have started brdsrv and inetcfg and filtcfg, nothing more. What I'd when proxy start to show on client browsers memory error. I'd add three add ip addresses (in autoexec) to allow direct connection between outside and inside worlds for one server and two as for future. Removed from autoexec tftp start, we don't use it anymore. And ... nothing more. Any ideas? More thanks, Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 3:49 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi! BM 3.6 SP2a, NW 5.1 SP8. Started last Monday our BM server start to behave oddly. First we noticed that internet access via BM proxy start show "Status : 500 Internal Server Error -- Description : Novell Proxy Memory Allocation error". After I'd restart server (change almost nothing, add few NAT addresses I have planned, this requires restart) it did work almost exactly 24 hours and ... we did lost connection to it. So few days. Exactly 24 hours. On server side it did work (console was ok) and I could note Monitor info etc., but on restart attempt from console it didn't restart - console hung -, but in other way was accessible for open programs from console. I have to push the button. And ... 24 and same. It did work 310 days before that and years before that wo any major problems. Any ideas to start for looking some numbers from console. I tried, but for me it shows almost ... normal. Didn't start brdsrv (incl. proxy) anymore and same happen, few hours later than 24 hours running. Any help is greatly appreciated. More thanks, Alar. See also threads http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-prox ies/359814-novell-proxy-memory-allocation-error.html http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-inst all-setup/360651-bm-3-6-looses-access-every-24-hours-so.html From petervl at gmail.com Mon Mar 2 17:18:35 2009 From: petervl at gmail.com (Peter Van Lone) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 11:18:35 -0600 Subject: is it still possible to purchase a support incident for NW5.1? Message-ID: <68b791330903020918r37a07579kc6f67b5c65fddd31@mail.gmail.com> I've got a customer that called and the server is stuck, can't get to it due to a looping error. I've been trying to help him work through it, but at this point we can't get the networking to load (volumes mount, though) and we can't re-apply sp6 because we can't run nwconfig/install products because btrieve is not loading. GRRR When I do good, I feel good. When I do bad, I feel bad. That is my religion. -Abraham Lincoln http://www.the-brights.net http://xkcd.com/167 From James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Mon Mar 2 17:31:13 2009 From: James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com (James Taylor) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 12:31:13 -0500 Subject: is it still possible to purchase a support incident for NW5.1? In-Reply-To: <68b791330903020918r37a07579kc6f67b5c65fddd31@mail.gmail.com> References: <68b791330903020918r37a07579kc6f67b5c65fddd31@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49ABD191020000750002BC34@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> I don't believe you are going to get any help on this from Novell. However, I do have a suggestion. Locate an NW5.1sp6 overlay disk and do a down server upgrade. The procedure is documented and can be easily found by doing a search on "down server upgrade" at the Novell site. If you don't have an sp6 overly, you can use any 5.1 disk and then apply the SP. -jt James Taylor The East Cobb Group, Inc. 678-697-9420 james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com http://www.eastcobbgroup.com >>> Peter Van Lone 3/2/2009 12:18 PM >>> I've got a customer that called and the server is stuck, can't get to it due to a looping error. I've been trying to help him work through it, but at this point we can't get the networking to load (volumes mount, though) and we can't re-apply sp6 because we can't run nwconfig/install products because btrieve is not loading. GRRR When I do good, I feel good. When I do bad, I feel bad. That is my religion. -Abraham Lincoln http://www.the-brights.net http://xkcd.com/167 _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From petervl at gmail.com Mon Mar 2 17:56:59 2009 From: petervl at gmail.com (Peter Van Lone) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 11:56:59 -0600 Subject: is it still possible to purchase a support incident for NW5.1? In-Reply-To: <49ABD191020000750002BC34@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> References: <68b791330903020918r37a07579kc6f67b5c65fddd31@mail.gmail.com> <49ABD191020000750002BC34@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> Message-ID: <68b791330903020956v11d23da7x1225d10a89bccd1e@mail.gmail.com> I cannot find an overlay CD -- and a down server upgrade that is actually a downgrade worries me some. In fact -- I have little confidence that it will work. Do you have any idea where I could download the overlay CD quickly? P On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 11:31 AM, James Taylor wrote: > I don't believe you are going to get any help on this from Novell. > > However, I do have a suggestion. > Locate an NW5.1sp6 overlay disk and do a down server upgrade. The procedure is documented and can be easily found by doing a search on "down server upgrade" at the Novell site. > If you don't have an sp6 overly, you can use any 5.1 disk and then apply the SP. > > -jt > > > James Taylor > The East Cobb Group, Inc. > 678-697-9420 > james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com > http://www.eastcobbgroup.com > > > > > > > >>>> Peter Van Lone 3/2/2009 12:18 PM >>> > I've got a customer that called and the server is stuck, can't get to > it due to a looping error. > > I've been trying to help him work through it, but at this point we > can't get the networking to load (volumes mount, though) and we can't > re-apply sp6 because we can't run nwconfig/install products because > btrieve is not loading. > > GRRR > > > > When I do good, I feel good. When I do bad, I feel bad. That is my religion. > > -Abraham Lincoln > > http://www.the-brights.net > http://xkcd.com/167 > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > From RGrein at tpchd.org Mon Mar 2 18:16:32 2009 From: RGrein at tpchd.org (Randy Grein) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:16:32 -0800 Subject: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours In-Reply-To: <009101c99a5a$28701ce0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> References: <00c301c991df$68d9f9a0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> <009101c99a5a$28701ce0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> Message-ID: <49ABB2000200007200000793@mail2.tpchd.org> Hmm. I'm out of ideas - unless you're getting a lot of network errors. Can you check the network adapter stats AND the switch port? Randy Grein Sr. Network Engineer >>> "Alar Pandis" 3/1/2009 2:40 AM >>> Hi and thanks again Randy! Tried, same happen. Seems to that at weekends it work some 36 hours and weekdays 25. More thanks, Alar. >>> Randy Grein RGrein at tpchd.org Thu Feb 26 17:23:37 GMT 2009 <<< What jumps out at me is the nonreferenced delay time - 30 minutes is a LONG time. It's been a while since I've had to deal with a traditional volume, but try cutting it back to 30 seconds - you can always bump it back up. I seem to recall some odd things happening with directory cache buffer exhaustion. Randy Grein Sr. Network Engineer -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 5:48 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi and thanks Randy! I'd load proxy with cc option on the second day, I think, when this start to happen ... some two weeks and few days ago. Right now proxy isn't loaded for week or so. In console log I see that just some bordermanager audit-nlm is autoloaded. Just for a case I add some parameters. May be You see something I don't. Machine is Pentium III 450 MHz (Intel motherboard), 3x256 Mb RAM (was 3x128 when this start to happen). Disk is 50 GB (sys, cache and cache1). Five 3Com NIC's. I'd replace memory, harddisk and power-supply. Original cache buffers 195891 Total cache buffers 162941 Long term cache hits (server up 9 hours) 67% and rising Packet receive buffers 5000 (min 5000, max 10000) Directory cache buffers 2051 (min 2000, max 5000) (When I normally restart server Directory cache buffers is about 1500+, but when it is restarted by force then it show 2000+.) Allocated memory pool 41529344 5% Cache buffer memory 667406336 83% Cache movable memory 0 0% Cache non-movable memory 167936 0 Code and data memory 93265920 12% Total server work memory 804845568 100% Tuneup mostly with settings from Craig Johnson. Set Maximum Packet Receive Buffers = 10000 Set Minimum Packet Receive Buffers = 5000 Set New Packet Receive Buffer Wait Time = 0.1 sec Set Maximum Interrupt Events = 50 Set Garbage Collection Interval = 5 min Set Read Ahead Enabled = on Set Maximum Concurrent Disk Cache Writes = 750 Set Dirty Disk Cache Delay Time = 0.1 sec Set Dirty Directory Cache Delay Time = 0.1 sec Set Maximum Concurrent Directory Cache Writes = 125 Set Directory Cache Allocation Wait Time = 0.1 sec Set Directory Cache Buffer NonReferenced delay = 30 min Set Minimum Directory Cache Buffers = 2000 Set Maximum Directory Cache Buffers = 5000 Set Maximum Number of Internal Directory Handles = 500 Set Immediate Purge of Deleted Files = on Set Enable File Compression = off Set Maximum File Locks = 100000 Set Enable Hardware Write Back = on Set Enable Disk Read After Write Verify = off Set Worker Thread Execute In A Row Count = 15 Set Pseudo Preemption Count = 200 Set Minimum Service Processes = 200 Set Maximum Service Processes = 500 More thanks, Alar. >>> Randy Grein RGrein at tpchd.org Thu Feb 26 15:31:29 GMT 2009 <<< One bare possibility occurs to me - have you cleared the proxy cache on this server yet? Randy Grein Sr. Network Engineer -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 1:08 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi again with still same problem! I have from outside network two ping addresses -- server itself and one email server behind. First start failed ping to email server, ping to server from outside and inside failed some minute(s) after that. And then console from server does work, but ... restart from console not. No error messages or whatsoever. After restart server work ok some 24-25 hours and same happen again. Yesterday we changed from one outside line to another, but probably problem lies not there. Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:47 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contactevery 24 hours Hi again! Did change hard disk and also power supply! But ... same problem. Interesting that after re(over)installing SP8 this time cycle did change from approximately from 24-25 hours to 34-35 hours! I'm lost! More thanks, Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 12:07 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contactevery 24 hours Perhaps I must replace a hard disk? Could there be problems NetWare can't recognize? I mean, show errors? No error appear during copying all files from this disk, for backup. Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 11:38 AM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contactevery 24 hours Hi again! Still. I'd reinstall SP8 and it hold on ... almost 36 hours and ... lost contact again! Loaded (from console) is just dhcp and DNS. Could it be NDS-related!? I can't see any memory lost, but may be I didn't look the right place!? Any further ideas? More thanks, Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:42 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contactevery 24 hours Hi again and thanks James! I'm agree -- this our NW 5.1 with BM 3.6 on top of it has done very good job, indeed! But now I'm thinking replace it with special firewall device like NSA 2400 from Sonicwall etc. I'm not sure. But, anyway, I can't do that in middle of working period, may be at summer or so. If something with this server more bad does not happen, I hope not. I'll wait until server does next unplanned stop as last day I'd removed from autoexec some SSL and FTP components still loaded with no use and then try to reinstall SP8. More thanks, Alar. >>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Feb 18 14:29:09 GMT 2009 >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Yes. Also, pay attention to any post sp8 updates that may have been applied. There may be some TCP updates since the original patch, so you want to make sure everything matches afterward. FYI - I'm still running both of my public DNS servers, with BM, on NW65sp8. I've had these servers (workstations, actually) running for over 7 years, and I need to update the hardware and replace then with linux servers, but they have been so rock solid, I hate to touch them. -jt James Taylor The East Cobb Group, Inc. 678-697-9420 james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com http://www.eastcobbgroup.com -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 4:16 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi again and thanks! Well, that's something! So, I just run SP8 again as I did it before? Probably I must change tcpip later back as it is for BM. More thanks, Alar. >>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Feb 18 13:43:31 GMT 2009 <<< Since this started occurring without any know related event, it may be an instance of file corruption somewhere. I have had strange, intermittent problems with no obvious cause that I have cured by reinstalling the latest support pack. It replaces a very large percentage of system files, so there is a good chance that, if there is a corrupted file, it will be replaced. It is a bit of a shotgun approach, but it doesn't usually take long and often works. -jt James Taylor The East Cobb Group, Inc. 678-697-9420 james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com http://www.eastcobbgroup.com -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 12:58 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi! As no reply for this, I little bit rephrase my question! As no BM stuff is loaded anymore I wonder where to look when NetWare 5.1 SP8 start act as described below?! (Well, it start act so being loaded also with BM stuff.) This machine is first between outside world. Almost nothing is loaded, just NAT and filtering as it still acts like firewall. And ... 24 hours and connection is broken, restart and again 24 hours. Any ideas? More thanks, Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:37 AM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi again! 24 hours and it looses all network connectivity and need restart. Sunday morning I'd replace all memory pieces and add twice as much memory. Also did clean it inside, little bit dusty. Nothing helps. Right now I see that directory cache buffers is by 34 over minimum 1700, but last time when I saw same and restart machine it decrease to 1110 or so. I have on server console just console, timesync debug screen, named, dhcpsrvr debug screen, novell ssl server handshake screen and monitor. Usually I have started brdsrv and inetcfg and filtcfg, nothing more. What I'd when proxy start to show on client browsers memory error. I'd add three add ip addresses (in autoexec) to allow direct connection between outside and inside worlds for one server and two as for future. Removed from autoexec tftp start, we don't use it anymore. And ... nothing more. Any ideas? More thanks, Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 3:49 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi! BM 3.6 SP2a, NW 5.1 SP8. Started last Monday our BM server start to behave oddly. First we noticed that internet access via BM proxy start show "Status : 500 Internal Server Error -- Description : Novell Proxy Memory Allocation error". After I'd restart server (change almost nothing, add few NAT addresses I have planned, this requires restart) it did work almost exactly 24 hours and ... we did lost connection to it. So few days. Exactly 24 hours. On server side it did work (console was ok) and I could note Monitor info etc., but on restart attempt from console it didn't restart - console hung -, but in other way was accessible for open programs from console. I have to push the button. And ... 24 and same. It did work 310 days before that and years before that wo any major problems. Any ideas to start for looking some numbers from console. I tried, but for me it shows almost ... normal. Didn't start brdsrv (incl. proxy) anymore and same happen, few hours later than 24 hours running. Any help is greatly appreciated. More thanks, Alar. See also threads http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-prox ies/359814-novell-proxy-memory-allocation-error.html http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-inst all-setup/360651-bm-3-6-looses-access-every-24-hours-so.html _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell ************************************************************************************* This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. It has been scanned for viruses. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination, use, review, disclosure, or distribution of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. ************************************************************************************** From joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk Mon Mar 2 19:27:47 2009 From: joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk (jrd) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:27:47 +0000 Subject: is it still possible to purchase a support incident for NW5.1? In-Reply-To: <68b791330903020956v11d23da7x1225d10a89bccd1e@mail.gmail.com> References: <68b791330903020918r37a07579kc6f67b5c65fddd31@mail.gmail.com> <49ABD191020000750002BC34@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> <68b791330903020956v11d23da7x1225d10a89bccd1e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49AC3333.6030200@oucs.ox.ac.uk> Peter Van Lone wrote: > I cannot find an overlay CD -- and a down server upgrade that is > actually a downgrade worries me some. In fact -- I have little > confidence that it will work. > > Do you have any idea where I could download the overlay CD quickly? > -------------- http://netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ Choose Complete File Archives, then allupdates. Scan down the list and find nw51sp6,7 ,exe files and nw51sp8 .iso (which is what you want). These files were mirrored from Novell's ftp site until they decided to withdraw the service. To increase your confidence, copy your problem server (disk imaging) to a spare drive and then use the .iso file to build a test server. If you have a handy Linux box then a free sector copy tool is the dd command, such as dd if=/dev/hda of=mydisk to create the image file, and then on a fresh drive do dd if=mydisk of=/dev/hda. This copies the entire drive, including partition table, MBR etc. You can copy just partitions by adding the partition number to the drive ident, /dev/hda2 for example. Here I use the partition approach, one file for C: and another for SYS:. Takes about 6 minutes to do or undo an image file. This may give you an idea of the down time involved. Do save those original sector images in case all goes pear shaped. Joe D. From Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee Tue Mar 3 09:34:25 2009 From: Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee (Alar Pandis) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 11:34:25 +0200 Subject: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours References: <00c301c991df$68d9f9a0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> Message-ID: <00b501c99be3$3e6ad500$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> Hi again and thanks Randy! I can tell from 3Com switch to BM box (outside line) -- 1671 CRC errors right now since ... port is up (I changed it from one switch to another to except problems) 5 days or so. I see there on another ports much worse statistics, probably ... it is ok. I'm not sure. But I'd check every switch connection to BM box NIC's and 3Com 4500 tells (when I log in via telnet) about our WiFi subnet (there is 3Com AP's and all students with WiFi devices) that "The link partner of Ethernet1 /0/44 may be bad,sending lots of error packets !". Inside box is for this subnet old 3Com 3c5x9 NIC. For outside line 3c59x and other three is 3c90xc NIC's. More thanks, Alar. >>> Randy Grein RGrein at tpchd.org Mon Mar 2 18:16:32 GMT 2009 <<< Hmm. I'm out of ideas - unless you're getting a lot of network errors. Can you check the network adapter stats AND the switch port? Randy Grein Sr. Network Engineer -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 12:41 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi and thanks again Randy! Tried, same happen. Seems to that at weekends it work some 36 hours and weekdays 25. More thanks, Alar. >>> Randy Grein RGrein at tpchd.org Thu Feb 26 17:23:37 GMT 2009 <<< What jumps out at me is the nonreferenced delay time - 30 minutes is a LONG time. It's been a while since I've had to deal with a traditional volume, but try cutting it back to 30 seconds - you can always bump it back up. I seem to recall some odd things happening with directory cache buffer exhaustion. Randy Grein Sr. Network Engineer -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 5:48 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi and thanks Randy! I'd load proxy with cc option on the second day, I think, when this start to happen ... some two weeks and few days ago. Right now proxy isn't loaded for week or so. In console log I see that just some bordermanager audit-nlm is autoloaded. Just for a case I add some parameters. May be You see something I don't. Machine is Pentium III 450 MHz (Intel motherboard), 3x256 Mb RAM (was 3x128 when this start to happen). Disk is 50 GB (sys, cache and cache1). Five 3Com NIC's. I'd replace memory, harddisk and power-supply. Original cache buffers 195891 Total cache buffers 162941 Long term cache hits (server up 9 hours) 67% and rising Packet receive buffers 5000 (min 5000, max 10000) Directory cache buffers 2051 (min 2000, max 5000) (When I normally restart server Directory cache buffers is about 1500+, but when it is restarted by force then it show 2000+.) Allocated memory pool 41529344 5% Cache buffer memory 667406336 83% Cache movable memory 0 0% Cache non-movable memory 167936 0 Code and data memory 93265920 12% Total server work memory 804845568 100% Tuneup mostly with settings from Craig Johnson. Set Maximum Packet Receive Buffers = 10000 Set Minimum Packet Receive Buffers = 5000 Set New Packet Receive Buffer Wait Time = 0.1 sec Set Maximum Interrupt Events = 50 Set Garbage Collection Interval = 5 min Set Read Ahead Enabled = on Set Maximum Concurrent Disk Cache Writes = 750 Set Dirty Disk Cache Delay Time = 0.1 sec Set Dirty Directory Cache Delay Time = 0.1 sec Set Maximum Concurrent Directory Cache Writes = 125 Set Directory Cache Allocation Wait Time = 0.1 sec Set Directory Cache Buffer NonReferenced delay = 30 min Set Minimum Directory Cache Buffers = 2000 Set Maximum Directory Cache Buffers = 5000 Set Maximum Number of Internal Directory Handles = 500 Set Immediate Purge of Deleted Files = on Set Enable File Compression = off Set Maximum File Locks = 100000 Set Enable Hardware Write Back = on Set Enable Disk Read After Write Verify = off Set Worker Thread Execute In A Row Count = 15 Set Pseudo Preemption Count = 200 Set Minimum Service Processes = 200 Set Maximum Service Processes = 500 More thanks, Alar. >>> Randy Grein RGrein at tpchd.org Thu Feb 26 15:31:29 GMT 2009 <<< One bare possibility occurs to me - have you cleared the proxy cache on this server yet? Randy Grein Sr. Network Engineer -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 1:08 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi again with still same problem! I have from outside network two ping addresses -- server itself and one email server behind. First start failed ping to email server, ping to server from outside and inside failed some minute(s) after that. And then console from server does work, but ... restart from console not. No error messages or whatsoever. After restart server work ok some 24-25 hours and same happen again. Yesterday we changed from one outside line to another, but probably problem lies not there. Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:47 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contactevery 24 hours Hi again! Did change hard disk and also power supply! But ... same problem. Interesting that after re(over)installing SP8 this time cycle did change from approximately from 24-25 hours to 34-35 hours! I'm lost! More thanks, Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 12:07 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contactevery 24 hours Perhaps I must replace a hard disk? Could there be problems NetWare can't recognize? I mean, show errors? No error appear during copying all files from this disk, for backup. Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 11:38 AM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contactevery 24 hours Hi again! Still. I'd reinstall SP8 and it hold on ... almost 36 hours and ... lost contact again! Loaded (from console) is just dhcp and DNS. Could it be NDS-related!? I can't see any memory lost, but may be I didn't look the right place!? Any further ideas? More thanks, Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:42 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contactevery 24 hours Hi again and thanks James! I'm agree -- this our NW 5.1 with BM 3.6 on top of it has done very good job, indeed! But now I'm thinking replace it with special firewall device like NSA 2400 from Sonicwall etc. I'm not sure. But, anyway, I can't do that in middle of working period, may be at summer or so. If something with this server more bad does not happen, I hope not. I'll wait until server does next unplanned stop as last day I'd removed from autoexec some SSL and FTP components still loaded with no use and then try to reinstall SP8. More thanks, Alar. >>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Feb 18 14:29:09 GMT 2009 >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Yes. Also, pay attention to any post sp8 updates that may have been applied. There may be some TCP updates since the original patch, so you want to make sure everything matches afterward. FYI - I'm still running both of my public DNS servers, with BM, on NW65sp8. I've had these servers (workstations, actually) running for over 7 years, and I need to update the hardware and replace then with linux servers, but they have been so rock solid, I hate to touch them. -jt James Taylor The East Cobb Group, Inc. 678-697-9420 james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com http://www.eastcobbgroup.com -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 4:16 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi again and thanks! Well, that's something! So, I just run SP8 again as I did it before? Probably I must change tcpip later back as it is for BM. More thanks, Alar. >>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Feb 18 13:43:31 GMT 2009 <<< Since this started occurring without any know related event, it may be an instance of file corruption somewhere. I have had strange, intermittent problems with no obvious cause that I have cured by reinstalling the latest support pack. It replaces a very large percentage of system files, so there is a good chance that, if there is a corrupted file, it will be replaced. It is a bit of a shotgun approach, but it doesn't usually take long and often works. -jt James Taylor The East Cobb Group, Inc. 678-697-9420 james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com http://www.eastcobbgroup.com -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 12:58 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi! As no reply for this, I little bit rephrase my question! As no BM stuff is loaded anymore I wonder where to look when NetWare 5.1 SP8 start act as described below?! (Well, it start act so being loaded also with BM stuff.) This machine is first between outside world. Almost nothing is loaded, just NAT and filtering as it still acts like firewall. And ... 24 hours and connection is broken, restart and again 24 hours. Any ideas? More thanks, Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:37 AM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi again! 24 hours and it looses all network connectivity and need restart. Sunday morning I'd replace all memory pieces and add twice as much memory. Also did clean it inside, little bit dusty. Nothing helps. Right now I see that directory cache buffers is by 34 over minimum 1700, but last time when I saw same and restart machine it decrease to 1110 or so. I have on server console just console, timesync debug screen, named, dhcpsrvr debug screen, novell ssl server handshake screen and monitor. Usually I have started brdsrv and inetcfg and filtcfg, nothing more. What I'd when proxy start to show on client browsers memory error. I'd add three add ip addresses (in autoexec) to allow direct connection between outside and inside worlds for one server and two as for future. Removed from autoexec tftp start, we don't use it anymore. And ... nothing more. Any ideas? More thanks, Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 3:49 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi! BM 3.6 SP2a, NW 5.1 SP8. Started last Monday our BM server start to behave oddly. First we noticed that internet access via BM proxy start show "Status : 500 Internal Server Error -- Description : Novell Proxy Memory Allocation error". After I'd restart server (change almost nothing, add few NAT addresses I have planned, this requires restart) it did work almost exactly 24 hours and ... we did lost connection to it. So few days. Exactly 24 hours. On server side it did work (console was ok) and I could note Monitor info etc., but on restart attempt from console it didn't restart - console hung -, but in other way was accessible for open programs from console. I have to push the button. And ... 24 and same. It did work 310 days before that and years before that wo any major problems. Any ideas to start for looking some numbers from console. I tried, but for me it shows almost ... normal. Didn't start brdsrv (incl. proxy) anymore and same happen, few hours later than 24 hours running. Any help is greatly appreciated. More thanks, Alar. See also threads http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-prox ies/359814-novell-proxy-memory-allocation-error.html http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-inst all-setup/360651-bm-3-6-looses-access-every-24-hours-so.html From petervl at gmail.com Tue Mar 3 14:56:45 2009 From: petervl at gmail.com (Peter Van Lone) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 08:56:45 -0600 Subject: is it still possible to purchase a support incident for NW5.1? In-Reply-To: <49AC3333.6030200@oucs.ox.ac.uk> References: <68b791330903020918r37a07579kc6f67b5c65fddd31@mail.gmail.com> <49ABD191020000750002BC34@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> <68b791330903020956v11d23da7x1225d10a89bccd1e@mail.gmail.com> <49AC3333.6030200@oucs.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: <68b791330903030656v7af4fcfeg5d45b854dade717c@mail.gmail.com> We first settled on an attempt to do a down-server "upgrade" to a non-patched NW 5.0 version (because that is the only installation media of NW 5.0 that we could locate). However, the CD hung at the very earliest stages of this process ... possibly because there were many newer versions of files on the server system volume. At any rate, we then decided to attempt a down-server upgrade by using a NW 5.1 CD ... we downloaded the CD (which took about 3 hours) and then began the installation process. All appeared to be going well -- it looked as though we would have a functioning server however after a long process of updating the server's local NDS database, the install failed due to the system volume running out of space. I knew it was going to be tight before starting the install, but I had no way of deleting any files, as none of the tools (including netbasic shell) worked in the server's current shape. I did discover during the ultimately failed upgrade that there were a fair number of files on the server's sys volume that were corrupted. My earlier attempts to load missing modules by hand from the C: drive was fated to fail, given the amount of corruption. Oh, well ... let's trust that we can get SOMETHING installed and that the tape restore works. This mornings update: Not good news. I could use some help with the restore DS from tape process, if anyone has experience there. Read below for explanations: I cleaned up the tree from the failed server, promoted the existing replica to master, and then performed a local DS DB repair. On the second pass, the server abended -- on restart, we saw that the array controller has no battery backed cache and write-back is enabled (ouch!) and Vrepair began automatically and showed TTS errors -- it now appears that the local DS database is gone. I tired restarting the server with -NDB, but now it is just hanging ... cannot even get the server to load. So, at this point, we may have completely lost all user and security information. I have no idea whether they have been properly backing up DS (I know that it is at least partially backed up though) and I have never recovered DS completely from tape -- has anyone else got any experience here? We have a server that started out as 5.0 sp6a but has it's local db upgraded to 5.1 sp8 ... not sure if there is anyway to pull the data off of that. What a nightmare ... good grief. Any suggestions? Peter On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 1:27 PM, jrd wrote: > Peter Van Lone wrote: >> >> I cannot find an overlay CD -- and a down server upgrade that is >> actually a downgrade worries me some. In fact -- I have little >> confidence that it will work. >> >> Do you have any idea where I could download the overlay CD quickly? >> > -------------- > ? ? ? ?http://netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ > Choose Complete File Archives, then allupdates. > Scan down the list and find nw51sp6,7 ,exe files > and nw51sp8 .iso (which is what you want). > ? ? ? ?These files were mirrored from Novell's > ftp site until they decided to withdraw the service. > ? ? ? ?To increase your confidence, copy your problem > server (disk imaging) to a spare drive and then use > the .iso file to build a test server. If you have a > handy Linux box then a free sector copy tool is the > dd command, such as ?dd if=/dev/hda of=mydisk ? to > create the image file, and then on a fresh drive do > dd if=mydisk of=/dev/hda. This copies the entire drive, > including partition table, MBR etc. You can copy just > partitions by adding the partition number to the drive > ident, ?/dev/hda2 ?for example. > ? ? ? ?Here I use the partition approach, one file > for C: and another for SYS:. Takes about 6 minutes > to do or undo an image file. This may give you an idea > of the down time involved. > ? ? ? ?Do save those original sector images in case > all goes pear shaped. > ? ? ? ?Joe D. > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > From joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk Tue Mar 3 15:36:01 2009 From: joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk (Joe Doupnik) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:36:01 +0000 Subject: is it still possible to purchase a support incident for NW5.1? In-Reply-To: <68b791330903030656v7af4fcfeg5d45b854dade717c@mail.gmail.com> References: <68b791330903020918r37a07579kc6f67b5c65fddd31@mail.gmail.com> <49ABD191020000750002BC34@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> <68b791330903020956v11d23da7x1225d10a89bccd1e@mail.gmail.com> <49AC3333.6030200@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <68b791330903030656v7af4fcfeg5d45b854dade717c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49AD4E61.4070408@oucs.ox.ac.uk> Peter Van Lone wrote: > We first settled on an attempt to do a down-server "upgrade" to a > non-patched NW 5.0 version (because that is the only installation > media of NW 5.0 that we could locate). > > However, the CD hung at the very earliest stages of this process ... > possibly because there were many newer versions of files on the server > system volume. At any rate, we then decided to attempt a down-server > upgrade by using a NW 5.1 CD ... we downloaded the CD (which took > about 3 hours) and then began the installation process. All appeared > to be going well -- it looked as though we would have a functioning > server however after a long process of updating the server's local NDS > database, the install failed due to the system volume running out of > space. > > I knew it was going to be tight before starting the install, but I had > no way of deleting any files, as none of the tools (including netbasic > shell) worked in the server's current shape. > > I did discover during the ultimately failed upgrade that there were a > fair number of files on the server's sys volume that were corrupted. > My earlier attempts to load missing modules by hand from the C: drive > was fated to fail, given the amount of corruption. > > Oh, well ... let's trust that we can get SOMETHING installed and that > the tape restore works. > > This mornings update: Not good news. I could use some help with the > restore DS from tape process, if anyone has experience there. Read > below for explanations: > > I cleaned up the tree from the failed server, promoted the existing > replica to master, and then performed a local DS DB repair. On the > second pass, the server abended -- on restart, we saw that the array > controller has no battery backed cache and write-back is enabled > (ouch!) and Vrepair began automatically and showed TTS errors -- it > now appears that the local DS database is gone. > > I tired restarting the server with -NDB, but now it is just hanging > ... cannot even get the server to load. > > So, at this point, we may have completely lost all user and security > information. I have no idea whether they have been properly backing up > DS (I know that it is at least partially backed up though) and I have > never recovered DS completely from tape -- has anyone else got any > experience here? > > We have a server that started out as 5.0 sp6a but has it's local db > upgraded to 5.1 sp8 ... not sure if there is anyway to pull the data > off of that. > > What a nightmare ... good grief. Any suggestions? > > Peter ------------- Might I be so brave as to ask whether you made sector copies of the disks BEFORE "improving" them? I gather that this step was skipped and bridges were burnt. So, do it now, on all the affected drives. Then get more fresh drives, build a NW 5.1 SP8 server with plenty of extra space. Do not let users approach it yet. Take a bad drive and mount it in the new box, and let old SYS: be renamed to avoid volume name conflicts. If you get this far then carefully copy the entire contents of old _NETWARE and /etc/nici, which are of course eDir files and the server-specific keys. Copy anything else of value to a safe spot (not on the just built drive). Now, on the new box, copy the eDir and NICI files to a holding area. Load toolbox, but do not login with credentials (important, /nl credential-free). Unload DS.nlm. Use toolbox to copy _Netware to another safe spot, and the old _Netware in its place, ditto /etc/nici files. Try reloading DS. If this works your server is up with the old eDir, though the IP info is likely not correct so fix that as well. Should things work to this point you can now fire up your regular backup/restore utility and try restoring other important files. You can carry on with this tactic for each broken server. eDir first, then user files with trustee information. Plan B. Assume the above fails for some reason. Build that fresh NW box with SP8. Install the backup/restore software and see if it will restore eDir and files. Just my suggestions. Joe D. From petervl at gmail.com Tue Mar 3 15:55:47 2009 From: petervl at gmail.com (Peter Van Lone) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 09:55:47 -0600 Subject: is it still possible to purchase a support incident for NW5.1? In-Reply-To: <49AD4E61.4070408@oucs.ox.ac.uk> References: <68b791330903020918r37a07579kc6f67b5c65fddd31@mail.gmail.com> <49ABD191020000750002BC34@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> <68b791330903020956v11d23da7x1225d10a89bccd1e@mail.gmail.com> <49AC3333.6030200@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <68b791330903030656v7af4fcfeg5d45b854dade717c@mail.gmail.com> <49AD4E61.4070408@oucs.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: <68b791330903030755q548108ctbe2927f9db9bee78@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Joe Doupnik wrote: > ------------- > ? ? ? ?Might I be so brave as to ask whether you made sector copies of > the disks BEFORE "improving" them? I gather that this step was skipped > and bridges were burnt. of course it was skipped -- there is no hardware available to copy it to .. > ? ? ? ?So, do it now, on all the affected drives. Then get more fresh > drives, build a NW 5.1 SP8 server with plenty of extra space. Do not let > users approach it yet. Take a bad drive and mount it in the new box, and > let old SYS: be renamed to avoid volume name conflicts. If you get this > far then carefully copy the entire contents of old _NETWARE and /etc/nici, > which are of course eDir files and the server-specific keys. Copy anything > else of value to a safe spot (not on the just built drive). > ? ? ? ?Now, on the new box, copy the eDir and NICI files to a holding area. > Load toolbox, but do not login with credentials (important, /nl > credential-free). > Unload DS.nlm. Use toolbox to copy _Netware to another safe spot, and the > old > _Netware in its place, ditto /etc/nici files. Try reloading DS. If this > works > your server is up with the old eDir, though the IP info is likely not > correct > so fix that as well. > ? ? ? ?Should things work to this point you can now fire up your regular > backup/restore utility and try restoring other important files. You can > carry > on with this tactic for each broken server. eDir first, then user files with > trustee information. sounds like a great plan ... I'll see if I can pull it off hardware wise ... > ? ? ? ?Plan B. Assume the above fails for some reason. Build that fresh NW > box with SP8. Install the backup/restore software and see if it will restore > eDir and files. do you know whether it is possible to install a fresh DS, then restore user objects to it from the tape backup of the old DS? So in otherwords, instead of trying to restore the entire DS/server specific info, etc ... just create new using same names as old, and then restore specific objects? P From RGrein at tpchd.org Tue Mar 3 15:56:08 2009 From: RGrein at tpchd.org (Randy Grein) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 07:56:08 -0800 Subject: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours In-Reply-To: <00b501c99be3$3e6ad500$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> References: <00c301c991df$68d9f9a0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> <00b501c99be3$3e6ad500$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> Message-ID: <49ACE29802000072000007B0@mail2.tpchd.org> Not a high number of CRC errors, but I have had my share of problems with 3Com cards dying - as in dropping packets completely over time like you're seeing. If you can, try replacing the likeliest cards and test some more. Randy Grein Sr. Network Engineer >>> "Alar Pandis" 3/3/2009 1:34 AM >>> Hi again and thanks Randy! I can tell from 3Com switch to BM box (outside line) -- 1671 CRC errors right now since ... port is up (I changed it from one switch to another to except problems) 5 days or so. I see there on another ports much worse statistics, probably ... it is ok. I'm not sure. But I'd check every switch connection to BM box NIC's and 3Com 4500 tells (when I log in via telnet) about our WiFi subnet (there is 3Com AP's and all students with WiFi devices) that "The link partner of Ethernet1 /0/44 may be bad,sending lots of error packets !". Inside box is for this subnet old 3Com 3c5x9 NIC. For outside line 3c59x and other three is 3c90xc NIC's. More thanks, Alar. >>> Randy Grein RGrein at tpchd.org Mon Mar 2 18:16:32 GMT 2009 <<< Hmm. I'm out of ideas - unless you're getting a lot of network errors. Can you check the network adapter stats AND the switch port? Randy Grein Sr. Network Engineer -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 12:41 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi and thanks again Randy! Tried, same happen. Seems to that at weekends it work some 36 hours and weekdays 25. More thanks, Alar. >>> Randy Grein RGrein at tpchd.org Thu Feb 26 17:23:37 GMT 2009 <<< What jumps out at me is the nonreferenced delay time - 30 minutes is a LONG time. It's been a while since I've had to deal with a traditional volume, but try cutting it back to 30 seconds - you can always bump it back up. I seem to recall some odd things happening with directory cache buffer exhaustion. Randy Grein Sr. Network Engineer -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 5:48 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi and thanks Randy! I'd load proxy with cc option on the second day, I think, when this start to happen ... some two weeks and few days ago. Right now proxy isn't loaded for week or so. In console log I see that just some bordermanager audit-nlm is autoloaded. Just for a case I add some parameters. May be You see something I don't. Machine is Pentium III 450 MHz (Intel motherboard), 3x256 Mb RAM (was 3x128 when this start to happen). Disk is 50 GB (sys, cache and cache1). Five 3Com NIC's. I'd replace memory, harddisk and power-supply. Original cache buffers 195891 Total cache buffers 162941 Long term cache hits (server up 9 hours) 67% and rising Packet receive buffers 5000 (min 5000, max 10000) Directory cache buffers 2051 (min 2000, max 5000) (When I normally restart server Directory cache buffers is about 1500+, but when it is restarted by force then it show 2000+.) Allocated memory pool 41529344 5% Cache buffer memory 667406336 83% Cache movable memory 0 0% Cache non-movable memory 167936 0 Code and data memory 93265920 12% Total server work memory 804845568 100% Tuneup mostly with settings from Craig Johnson. Set Maximum Packet Receive Buffers = 10000 Set Minimum Packet Receive Buffers = 5000 Set New Packet Receive Buffer Wait Time = 0.1 sec Set Maximum Interrupt Events = 50 Set Garbage Collection Interval = 5 min Set Read Ahead Enabled = on Set Maximum Concurrent Disk Cache Writes = 750 Set Dirty Disk Cache Delay Time = 0.1 sec Set Dirty Directory Cache Delay Time = 0.1 sec Set Maximum Concurrent Directory Cache Writes = 125 Set Directory Cache Allocation Wait Time = 0.1 sec Set Directory Cache Buffer NonReferenced delay = 30 min Set Minimum Directory Cache Buffers = 2000 Set Maximum Directory Cache Buffers = 5000 Set Maximum Number of Internal Directory Handles = 500 Set Immediate Purge of Deleted Files = on Set Enable File Compression = off Set Maximum File Locks = 100000 Set Enable Hardware Write Back = on Set Enable Disk Read After Write Verify = off Set Worker Thread Execute In A Row Count = 15 Set Pseudo Preemption Count = 200 Set Minimum Service Processes = 200 Set Maximum Service Processes = 500 More thanks, Alar. >>> Randy Grein RGrein at tpchd.org Thu Feb 26 15:31:29 GMT 2009 <<< One bare possibility occurs to me - have you cleared the proxy cache on this server yet? Randy Grein Sr. Network Engineer -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 1:08 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi again with still same problem! I have from outside network two ping addresses -- server itself and one email server behind. First start failed ping to email server, ping to server from outside and inside failed some minute(s) after that. And then console from server does work, but ... restart from console not. No error messages or whatsoever. After restart server work ok some 24-25 hours and same happen again. Yesterday we changed from one outside line to another, but probably problem lies not there. Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:47 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contactevery 24 hours Hi again! Did change hard disk and also power supply! But ... same problem. Interesting that after re(over)installing SP8 this time cycle did change from approximately from 24-25 hours to 34-35 hours! I'm lost! More thanks, Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 12:07 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contactevery 24 hours Perhaps I must replace a hard disk? Could there be problems NetWare can't recognize? I mean, show errors? No error appear during copying all files from this disk, for backup. Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 11:38 AM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contactevery 24 hours Hi again! Still. I'd reinstall SP8 and it hold on ... almost 36 hours and ... lost contact again! Loaded (from console) is just dhcp and DNS. Could it be NDS-related!? I can't see any memory lost, but may be I didn't look the right place!? Any further ideas? More thanks, Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:42 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contactevery 24 hours Hi again and thanks James! I'm agree -- this our NW 5.1 with BM 3.6 on top of it has done very good job, indeed! But now I'm thinking replace it with special firewall device like NSA 2400 from Sonicwall etc. I'm not sure. But, anyway, I can't do that in middle of working period, may be at summer or so. If something with this server more bad does not happen, I hope not. I'll wait until server does next unplanned stop as last day I'd removed from autoexec some SSL and FTP components still loaded with no use and then try to reinstall SP8. More thanks, Alar. >>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Feb 18 14:29:09 GMT 2009 >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Yes. Also, pay attention to any post sp8 updates that may have been applied. There may be some TCP updates since the original patch, so you want to make sure everything matches afterward. FYI - I'm still running both of my public DNS servers, with BM, on NW65sp8. I've had these servers (workstations, actually) running for over 7 years, and I need to update the hardware and replace then with linux servers, but they have been so rock solid, I hate to touch them. -jt James Taylor The East Cobb Group, Inc. 678-697-9420 james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com http://www.eastcobbgroup.com -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 4:16 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi again and thanks! Well, that's something! So, I just run SP8 again as I did it before? Probably I must change tcpip later back as it is for BM. More thanks, Alar. >>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Feb 18 13:43:31 GMT 2009 <<< Since this started occurring without any know related event, it may be an instance of file corruption somewhere. I have had strange, intermittent problems with no obvious cause that I have cured by reinstalling the latest support pack. It replaces a very large percentage of system files, so there is a good chance that, if there is a corrupted file, it will be replaced. It is a bit of a shotgun approach, but it doesn't usually take long and often works. -jt James Taylor The East Cobb Group, Inc. 678-697-9420 james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com http://www.eastcobbgroup.com -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 12:58 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi! As no reply for this, I little bit rephrase my question! As no BM stuff is loaded anymore I wonder where to look when NetWare 5.1 SP8 start act as described below?! (Well, it start act so being loaded also with BM stuff.) This machine is first between outside world. Almost nothing is loaded, just NAT and filtering as it still acts like firewall. And ... 24 hours and connection is broken, restart and again 24 hours. Any ideas? More thanks, Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:37 AM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi again! 24 hours and it looses all network connectivity and need restart. Sunday morning I'd replace all memory pieces and add twice as much memory. Also did clean it inside, little bit dusty. Nothing helps. Right now I see that directory cache buffers is by 34 over minimum 1700, but last time when I saw same and restart machine it decrease to 1110 or so. I have on server console just console, timesync debug screen, named, dhcpsrvr debug screen, novell ssl server handshake screen and monitor. Usually I have started brdsrv and inetcfg and filtcfg, nothing more. What I'd when proxy start to show on client browsers memory error. I'd add three add ip addresses (in autoexec) to allow direct connection between outside and inside worlds for one server and two as for future. Removed from autoexec tftp start, we don't use it anymore. And ... nothing more. Any ideas? More thanks, Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 3:49 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi! BM 3.6 SP2a, NW 5.1 SP8. Started last Monday our BM server start to behave oddly. First we noticed that internet access via BM proxy start show "Status : 500 Internal Server Error -- Description : Novell Proxy Memory Allocation error". After I'd restart server (change almost nothing, add few NAT addresses I have planned, this requires restart) it did work almost exactly 24 hours and ... we did lost connection to it. So few days. Exactly 24 hours. On server side it did work (console was ok) and I could note Monitor info etc., but on restart attempt from console it didn't restart - console hung -, but in other way was accessible for open programs from console. I have to push the button. And ... 24 and same. It did work 310 days before that and years before that wo any major problems. Any ideas to start for looking some numbers from console. I tried, but for me it shows almost ... normal. Didn't start brdsrv (incl. proxy) anymore and same happen, few hours later than 24 hours running. Any help is greatly appreciated. More thanks, Alar. See also threads http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-prox ies/359814-novell-proxy-memory-allocation-error.html http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-inst all-setup/360651-bm-3-6-looses-access-every-24-hours-so.html _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell ************************************************************************************* This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. It has been scanned for viruses. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination, use, review, disclosure, or distribution of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. ************************************************************************************** From Simon.Shilton at acustica.co.uk Tue Mar 3 15:56:17 2009 From: Simon.Shilton at acustica.co.uk (Simon Shilton) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:56:17 +0000 Subject: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contactevery 24 hours In-Reply-To: <00b501c99be3$3e6ad500$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> References: <00c301c991df$68d9f9a0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> <00b501c99be3$3e6ad500$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> Message-ID: <49AD5321020000AB0001A160@dylan.trident.acustica.co.uk> Don't know if this may be relevant, and I am scratching my head to recall when I ran BM 3.6 on NW5.1, but I never had any joy with 3Com NICs, despite having 3Com switches, I could never get reliable connections. In the end I switched all our NW servers to Intel NICs and all the problems vanished. looking back through the thread I am not sure if this is one of the swap outs you have already tried. best of luck Simon >>> On 03 March 2009 at 09:34, in message <00b501c99be3$3e6ad500$8800000a at infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee>, "Alar Pandis" wrote: Hi again and thanks Randy! I can tell from 3Com switch to BM box (outside line) -- 1671 CRC errors right now since ... port is up (I changed it from one switch to another to except problems) 5 days or so. I see there on another ports much worse statistics, probably ... it is ok. I'm not sure. But I'd check every switch connection to BM box NIC's and 3Com 4500 tells (when I log in via telnet) about our WiFi subnet (there is 3Com AP's and all students with WiFi devices) that "The link partner of Ethernet1 /0/44 may be bad,sending lots of error packets !". Inside box is for this subnet old 3Com 3c5x9 NIC. For outside line 3c59x and other three is 3c90xc NIC's. More thanks, Alar. >>> Randy Grein RGrein at tpchd.org Mon Mar 2 18:16:32 GMT 2009 <<< Hmm. I'm out of ideas - unless you're getting a lot of network errors. Can you check the network adapter stats AND the switch port? Randy Grein Sr. Network Engineer -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 12:41 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi and thanks again Randy! Tried, same happen. Seems to that at weekends it work some 36 hours and weekdays 25. More thanks, Alar. >>> Randy Grein RGrein at tpchd.org Thu Feb 26 17:23:37 GMT 2009 <<< What jumps out at me is the nonreferenced delay time - 30 minutes is a LONG time. It's been a while since I've had to deal with a traditional volume, but try cutting it back to 30 seconds - you can always bump it back up. I seem to recall some odd things happening with directory cache buffer exhaustion. Randy Grein Sr. Network Engineer -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 5:48 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi and thanks Randy! I'd load proxy with cc option on the second day, I think, when this start to happen ... some two weeks and few days ago. Right now proxy isn't loaded for week or so. In console log I see that just some bordermanager audit-nlm is autoloaded. Just for a case I add some parameters. May be You see something I don't. Machine is Pentium III 450 MHz (Intel motherboard), 3x256 Mb RAM (was 3x128 when this start to happen). Disk is 50 GB (sys, cache and cache1). Five 3Com NIC's. I'd replace memory, harddisk and power-supply. Original cache buffers 195891 Total cache buffers 162941 Long term cache hits (server up 9 hours) 67% and rising Packet receive buffers 5000 (min 5000, max 10000) Directory cache buffers 2051 (min 2000, max 5000) (When I normally restart server Directory cache buffers is about 1500+, but when it is restarted by force then it show 2000+.) Allocated memory pool 41529344 5% Cache buffer memory 667406336 83% Cache movable memory 0 0% Cache non-movable memory 167936 0 Code and data memory 93265920 12% Total server work memory 804845568 100% Tuneup mostly with settings from Craig Johnson. Set Maximum Packet Receive Buffers = 10000 Set Minimum Packet Receive Buffers = 5000 Set New Packet Receive Buffer Wait Time = 0.1 sec Set Maximum Interrupt Events = 50 Set Garbage Collection Interval = 5 min Set Read Ahead Enabled = on Set Maximum Concurrent Disk Cache Writes = 750 Set Dirty Disk Cache Delay Time = 0.1 sec Set Dirty Directory Cache Delay Time = 0.1 sec Set Maximum Concurrent Directory Cache Writes = 125 Set Directory Cache Allocation Wait Time = 0.1 sec Set Directory Cache Buffer NonReferenced delay = 30 min Set Minimum Directory Cache Buffers = 2000 Set Maximum Directory Cache Buffers = 5000 Set Maximum Number of Internal Directory Handles = 500 Set Immediate Purge of Deleted Files = on Set Enable File Compression = off Set Maximum File Locks = 100000 Set Enable Hardware Write Back = on Set Enable Disk Read After Write Verify = off Set Worker Thread Execute In A Row Count = 15 Set Pseudo Preemption Count = 200 Set Minimum Service Processes = 200 Set Maximum Service Processes = 500 More thanks, Alar. >>> Randy Grein RGrein at tpchd.org Thu Feb 26 15:31:29 GMT 2009 <<< One bare possibility occurs to me - have you cleared the proxy cache on this server yet? Randy Grein Sr. Network Engineer -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 1:08 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi again with still same problem! I have from outside network two ping addresses -- server itself and one email server behind. First start failed ping to email server, ping to server from outside and inside failed some minute(s) after that. And then console from server does work, but ... restart from console not. No error messages or whatsoever. After restart server work ok some 24-25 hours and same happen again. Yesterday we changed from one outside line to another, but probably problem lies not there. Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:47 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contactevery 24 hours Hi again! Did change hard disk and also power supply! But ... same problem. Interesting that after re(over)installing SP8 this time cycle did change from approximately from 24-25 hours to 34-35 hours! I'm lost! More thanks, Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 12:07 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contactevery 24 hours Perhaps I must replace a hard disk? Could there be problems NetWare can't recognize? I mean, show errors? No error appear during copying all files from this disk, for backup. Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 11:38 AM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contactevery 24 hours Hi again! Still. I'd reinstall SP8 and it hold on ... almost 36 hours and ... lost contact again! Loaded (from console) is just dhcp and DNS. Could it be NDS-related!? I can't see any memory lost, but may be I didn't look the right place!? Any further ideas? More thanks, Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:42 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contactevery 24 hours Hi again and thanks James! I'm agree -- this our NW 5.1 with BM 3.6 on top of it has done very good job, indeed! But now I'm thinking replace it with special firewall device like NSA 2400 from Sonicwall etc. I'm not sure. But, anyway, I can't do that in middle of working period, may be at summer or so. If something with this server more bad does not happen, I hope not. I'll wait until server does next unplanned stop as last day I'd removed from autoexec some SSL and FTP components still loaded with no use and then try to reinstall SP8. More thanks, Alar. >>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Feb 18 14:29:09 GMT 2009 >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Yes. Also, pay attention to any post sp8 updates that may have been applied. There may be some TCP updates since the original patch, so you want to make sure everything matches afterward. FYI - I'm still running both of my public DNS servers, with BM, on NW65sp8. I've had these servers (workstations, actually) running for over 7 years, and I need to update the hardware and replace then with linux servers, but they have been so rock solid, I hate to touch them. -jt James Taylor The East Cobb Group, Inc. 678-697-9420 james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com http://www.eastcobbgroup.com -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 4:16 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi again and thanks! Well, that's something! So, I just run SP8 again as I did it before? Probably I must change tcpip later back as it is for BM. More thanks, Alar. >>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Feb 18 13:43:31 GMT 2009 <<< Since this started occurring without any know related event, it may be an instance of file corruption somewhere. I have had strange, intermittent problems with no obvious cause that I have cured by reinstalling the latest support pack. It replaces a very large percentage of system files, so there is a good chance that, if there is a corrupted file, it will be replaced. It is a bit of a shotgun approach, but it doesn't usually take long and often works. -jt James Taylor The East Cobb Group, Inc. 678-697-9420 james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com http://www.eastcobbgroup.com -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 12:58 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi! As no reply for this, I little bit rephrase my question! As no BM stuff is loaded anymore I wonder where to look when NetWare 5.1 SP8 start act as described below?! (Well, it start act so being loaded also with BM stuff.) This machine is first between outside world. Almost nothing is loaded, just NAT and filtering as it still acts like firewall. And ... 24 hours and connection is broken, restart and again 24 hours. Any ideas? More thanks, Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:37 AM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi again! 24 hours and it looses all network connectivity and need restart. Sunday morning I'd replace all memory pieces and add twice as much memory. Also did clean it inside, little bit dusty. Nothing helps. Right now I see that directory cache buffers is by 34 over minimum 1700, but last time when I saw same and restart machine it decrease to 1110 or so. I have on server console just console, timesync debug screen, named, dhcpsrvr debug screen, novell ssl server handshake screen and monitor. Usually I have started brdsrv and inetcfg and filtcfg, nothing more. What I'd when proxy start to show on client browsers memory error. I'd add three add ip addresses (in autoexec) to allow direct connection between outside and inside worlds for one server and two as for future. Removed from autoexec tftp start, we don't use it anymore. And ... nothing more. Any ideas? More thanks, Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 3:49 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi! BM 3.6 SP2a, NW 5.1 SP8. Started last Monday our BM server start to behave oddly. First we noticed that internet access via BM proxy start show "Status : 500 Internal Server Error -- Description : Novell Proxy Memory Allocation error". After I'd restart server (change almost nothing, add few NAT addresses I have planned, this requires restart) it did work almost exactly 24 hours and ... we did lost connection to it. So few days. Exactly 24 hours. On server side it did work (console was ok) and I could note Monitor info etc., but on restart attempt from console it didn't restart - console hung -, but in other way was accessible for open programs from console. I have to push the button. And ... 24 and same. It did work 310 days before that and years before that wo any major problems. Any ideas to start for looking some numbers from console. I tried, but for me it shows almost ... normal. Didn't start brdsrv (incl. proxy) anymore and same happen, few hours later than 24 hours running. Any help is greatly appreciated. More thanks, Alar. See also threads http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-prox ies/359814-novell-proxy-memory-allocation-error.html http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-inst all-setup/360651-bm-3-6-looses-access-every-24-hours-so.html _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk Tue Mar 3 16:16:31 2009 From: joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk (Joe Doupnik) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:16:31 +0000 Subject: is it still possible to purchase a support incident for NW5.1? In-Reply-To: <68b791330903030755q548108ctbe2927f9db9bee78@mail.gmail.com> References: <68b791330903020918r37a07579kc6f67b5c65fddd31@mail.gmail.com> <49ABD191020000750002BC34@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> <68b791330903020956v11d23da7x1225d10a89bccd1e@mail.gmail.com> <49AC3333.6030200@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <68b791330903030656v7af4fcfeg5d45b854dade717c@mail.gmail.com> <49AD4E61.4070408@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <68b791330903030755q548108ctbe2927f9db9bee78@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49AD57DF.1080701@oucs.ox.ac.uk> Peter Van Lone wrote: > On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Joe Doupnik wrote: >> ------------- >> Might I be so brave as to ask whether you made sector copies of >> the disks BEFORE "improving" them? I gather that this step was skipped >> and bridges were burnt. > > of course it was skipped -- there is no hardware available to copy it to .. > >> So, do it now, on all the affected drives. Then get more fresh >> drives, build a NW 5.1 SP8 server with plenty of extra space. Do not let >> users approach it yet. Take a bad drive and mount it in the new box, and >> let old SYS: be renamed to avoid volume name conflicts. If you get this >> far then carefully copy the entire contents of old _NETWARE and /etc/nici, >> which are of course eDir files and the server-specific keys. Copy anything >> else of value to a safe spot (not on the just built drive). >> Now, on the new box, copy the eDir and NICI files to a holding area. >> Load toolbox, but do not login with credentials (important, /nl >> credential-free). >> Unload DS.nlm. Use toolbox to copy _Netware to another safe spot, and the >> old >> _Netware in its place, ditto /etc/nici files. Try reloading DS. If this >> works >> your server is up with the old eDir, though the IP info is likely not >> correct >> so fix that as well. >> Should things work to this point you can now fire up your regular >> backup/restore utility and try restoring other important files. You can >> carry >> on with this tactic for each broken server. eDir first, then user files with >> trustee information. > > sounds like a great plan ... I'll see if I can pull it off hardware wise ... > >> Plan B. Assume the above fails for some reason. Build that fresh NW >> box with SP8. Install the backup/restore software and see if it will restore >> eDir and files. > > do you know whether it is possible to install a fresh DS, then restore > user objects to it from the tape backup of the old DS? > > So in otherwords, instead of trying to restore the entire DS/server > specific info, etc ... just create new using same names as old, and > then restore specific objects? > > P ---------- Peter, I am sorry but I have no answer for your last question, other than to hazard guesses of a) if backed up files then no, or b) if culled for all (including schema and passwords) information then perhaps yes. The odds favor a). On the first part, I wish you luck. I am expert at digging different kinds of holes, nice deep ones, but not this kind. This does add a bit of zest to our boring daily activities. Joe D. From petervl at gmail.com Tue Mar 3 16:34:50 2009 From: petervl at gmail.com (Peter Van Lone) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 10:34:50 -0600 Subject: is it still possible to purchase a support incident for NW5.1? In-Reply-To: <49AD57DF.1080701@oucs.ox.ac.uk> References: <68b791330903020918r37a07579kc6f67b5c65fddd31@mail.gmail.com> <49ABD191020000750002BC34@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> <68b791330903020956v11d23da7x1225d10a89bccd1e@mail.gmail.com> <49AC3333.6030200@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <68b791330903030656v7af4fcfeg5d45b854dade717c@mail.gmail.com> <49AD4E61.4070408@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <68b791330903030755q548108ctbe2927f9db9bee78@mail.gmail.com> <49AD57DF.1080701@oucs.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: <68b791330903030834y2b4591e4m883ce6187d18e2e1@mail.gmail.com> lol! yes, "zest" is one word for this ... thnx for your comments/suggestions On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Joe Doupnik wrote: > Peter Van Lone wrote: >> >> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Joe Doupnik >> wrote: >>> >>> ------------- >>> ? ? ? Might I be so brave as to ask whether you made sector copies of >>> the disks BEFORE "improving" them? I gather that this step was skipped >>> and bridges were burnt. >> >> of course it was skipped -- there is no hardware available to copy it to >> .. >> >>> ? ? ? So, do it now, on all the affected drives. Then get more fresh >>> drives, build a NW 5.1 SP8 server with plenty of extra space. Do not let >>> users approach it yet. Take a bad drive and mount it in the new box, and >>> let old SYS: be renamed to avoid volume name conflicts. If you get this >>> far then carefully copy the entire contents of old _NETWARE and >>> /etc/nici, >>> which are of course eDir files and the server-specific keys. Copy >>> anything >>> else of value to a safe spot (not on the just built drive). >>> ? ? ? Now, on the new box, copy the eDir and NICI files to a holding >>> area. >>> Load toolbox, but do not login with credentials (important, /nl >>> credential-free). >>> Unload DS.nlm. Use toolbox to copy _Netware to another safe spot, and the >>> old >>> _Netware in its place, ditto /etc/nici files. Try reloading DS. If this >>> works >>> your server is up with the old eDir, though the IP info is likely not >>> correct >>> so fix that as well. >>> ? ? ? Should things work to this point you can now fire up your regular >>> backup/restore utility and try restoring other important files. You can >>> carry >>> on with this tactic for each broken server. eDir first, then user files >>> with >>> trustee information. >> >> sounds like a great plan ... I'll see if I can pull it off hardware wise >> ... >> >>> ? ? ? Plan B. Assume the above fails for some reason. Build that fresh NW >>> box with SP8. Install the backup/restore software and see if it will >>> restore >>> eDir and files. >> >> do you know whether it is possible to install a fresh DS, then restore >> user objects to it from the tape backup of the old DS? >> >> So in otherwords, instead of trying to restore the entire DS/server >> specific info, etc ... just create new using same names as old, and >> then restore specific objects? >> >> P > > ---------- > Peter, > ? ? ? ?I am sorry but I have no answer for your last question, other > than to hazard guesses of a) if backed up files then no, or b) if culled > for all (including schema and passwords) information then perhaps yes. The > odds favor a). > ? ? ? ?On the first part, I wish you luck. I am expert at digging different > kinds of holes, nice deep ones, but not this kind. This does add a bit of > zest > to our boring daily activities. > ? ? ? ?Joe D. > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > From Neil.Jensen at wcdsb.ca Tue Mar 3 17:07:11 2009 From: Neil.Jensen at wcdsb.ca (Neil Jensen) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:07:11 -0500 Subject: Cache buffers drop like a stone Message-ID: <08EB5C301CEB42F48C31D03F6ABEE5DC@wcdsb.ca> NW6.5 sp6 on an HP Proliant ML370G5 - basic file server serving applications and files in a high school. Also printing and Tivoli back-up Total Cache Buffers drops suddenly from an average of 476,000 to a number quite a bit less - right now mine's dropped to 239,000 in one morning. And I know if it gets much less, I'll run dry and will need to reboot. We've had no luck tracing the cause. We've updated BIOS and firmware and patched to latest. We've seen this lately at a couple of locations and it seems totally sporadic with no indicators anywhere. Does anyone have any ideas where to start looking? Thanks, Neil Jensen Waterloo Catholic DSB -------------------------------------------------------------------- Disclaimer - This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and contain privileged or copyright information. You must not present this message to another party without gaining permission from the sender. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy, distribute or use this email or the information contained in it for any purpose other than to notify us. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately, and delete this email from your system. We do not guarantee that this material is free from viruses or any other defects although due care has been taken to minimize the risk. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of the Waterloo Catholic District School Board. From joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk Tue Mar 3 17:16:36 2009 From: joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk (Joe R. Doupnik) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 17:16:36 +0000 Subject: Cache buffers drop like a stone In-Reply-To: <08EB5C301CEB42F48C31D03F6ABEE5DC@wcdsb.ca> References: <08EB5C301CEB42F48C31D03F6ABEE5DC@wcdsb.ca> Message-ID: <49AD65F4.4080302@oucs.ox.ac.uk> Neil Jensen wrote: > NW6.5 sp6 on an HP Proliant ML370G5 - basic file server serving > applications and files in a high school. Also printing and > Tivoli back-up > > Total Cache Buffers drops suddenly from an average of 476,000 > to a number quite a bit less - right now mine's dropped to > 239,000 in one morning. And I know if it gets much less, I'll > run dry and will need to reboot. We've had no luck tracing the > cause. We've updated BIOS and firmware and patched to latest. > > We've seen this lately at a couple of locations and it seems > totally sporadic with no indicators anywhere. Does anyone have > any ideas where to start looking? > > Thanks, > Neil Jensen > Waterloo Catholic DSB ---------- Remote Manager (NRM). Look within Manage Server | View Memory Config | NLM memory. Most likely culprit (pending facts) is TSM. It has an accomplice known as TSAFS caching which should be turned off via iManager | SMS Backup and Restore | TFSFS Options. Joe D. From toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee Tue Mar 3 17:22:34 2009 From: toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee (Toomas Aas) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:22:34 +0200 Subject: Netware fileserver based on SATA Message-ID: <20090303192234.bcoep846gw4wo04o@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> Hello! Like probably most of us, I have a long history of running servers with SCSI disks. Our "main server" currently is an IBM System x3550, connected to HP MSA1500 FC storage where it is using space on a RAID5 built of 12 146GB 10krpm U320 disks. SYS: and C: are on server's internal disks (SAS). We've had this setup for almost two years and it's been working well. However, as the time has come to add more disk space, I've started thinking that maybe SATA disks (which the MSA1500 supports) are fast and reliable enough now so they can be used for NSS volumes. Compared to other servers which are connected to the same FC storage (Lotus Domino), the IO load generated by Netware really seems rather microscopic, even though this is pretty much an all-in-one server - file storage (350 users), iPrint (100 printers), ZDM7 (350 workstations) all running on one box. What do you think? -- Toomas Aas From RGrein at tpchd.org Tue Mar 3 17:58:17 2009 From: RGrein at tpchd.org (Randy Grein) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 09:58:17 -0800 Subject: Netware fileserver based on SATA In-Reply-To: <20090303192234.bcoep846gw4wo04o@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> References: <20090303192234.bcoep846gw4wo04o@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> Message-ID: <49ACFF3902000072000007CA@mail2.tpchd.org> SATA 2 which adopts optional tagged command queuing (elevator seeking to the old Netware hands) can be fairly close to SCSI or SAS in terms of performance. Provided you are getting server class drives it can be a cost effective measure. Keep in mind that the next upgrade, SATA 3.0 is either out or due shortly. This gives us 6 Gbit performance on the bus - which is, of course not the bottleneck. (grin) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA Randy Grein Sr. Network Engineer >>> Toomas Aas 3/3/2009 9:22 AM >>> Hello! Like probably most of us, I have a long history of running servers with SCSI disks. Our "main server" currently is an IBM System x3550, connected to HP MSA1500 FC storage where it is using space on a RAID5 built of 12 146GB 10krpm U320 disks. SYS: and C: are on server's internal disks (SAS). We've had this setup for almost two years and it's been working well. However, as the time has come to add more disk space, I've started thinking that maybe SATA disks (which the MSA1500 supports) are fast and reliable enough now so they can be used for NSS volumes. Compared to other servers which are connected to the same FC storage (Lotus Domino), the IO load generated by Netware really seems rather microscopic, even though this is pretty much an all-in-one server - file storage (350 users), iPrint (100 printers), ZDM7 (350 workstations) all running on one box. What do you think? -- Toomas Aas _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell ************************************************************************************* This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. It has been scanned for viruses. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination, use, review, disclosure, or distribution of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. ************************************************************************************** From joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk Tue Mar 3 18:17:26 2009 From: joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk (jrd) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:17:26 +0000 Subject: Netware fileserver based on SATA In-Reply-To: <49ACFF3902000072000007CA@mail2.tpchd.org> References: <20090303192234.bcoep846gw4wo04o@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> <49ACFF3902000072000007CA@mail2.tpchd.org> Message-ID: <49AD7436.8050204@oucs.ox.ac.uk> In addition to flavor of drive (SCSI vs SATA) there is the not small matter of host drive adapter. Performance of the latter varies widely. As I understand things, the drive mechanisms are nearly identical, save for rating of use and similar, even though the electrical interface changes (SAS vs SATA). Server class units are built stronger, and often have a better warrantee. My rule of thumb on consumer grade drives is expect a three year life time, be happy if they live longer. Then the last factor is quality of the drive firmware. Unfortunately this also varies and will be visible to everyone. After suitable complaint, challenge, feedback Seagate gave me new firmware for a pair of SATA drives which made a dramatic difference in performance. As we know RAID vendors are often very picky about firmware levels and drive models. Aside from these "mere technical details" SATA can do well for less than intensive activity. Joe D. -------------- Randy Grein wrote: > SATA 2 which adopts optional tagged command queuing (elevator seeking to the old Netware hands) can be fairly close to SCSI or SAS in terms of performance. Provided you are getting server class drives it can be a cost effective measure. Keep in mind that the next upgrade, SATA 3.0 is either out or due shortly. This gives us 6 Gbit performance on the bus - which is, of course not the bottleneck. (grin) > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA > > > > > > Randy Grein > Sr. Network Engineer >>>> Toomas Aas 3/3/2009 9:22 AM >>> > Hello! > > Like probably most of us, I have a long history of running servers > with SCSI disks. Our "main server" currently is an IBM System x3550, > connected to HP MSA1500 FC storage where it is using space on a RAID5 > built of 12 146GB 10krpm U320 disks. SYS: and C: are on server's > internal disks (SAS). > > We've had this setup for almost two years and it's been working well. > However, as the time has come to add more disk space, I've started > thinking that maybe SATA disks (which the MSA1500 supports) are fast > and reliable enough now so they can be used for NSS volumes. Compared > to other servers which are connected to the same FC storage (Lotus > Domino), the IO load generated by Netware really seems rather > microscopic, even though this is pretty much an all-in-one server - > file storage (350 users), iPrint (100 printers), ZDM7 (350 > workstations) all running on one box. > > What do you think? From toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee Tue Mar 3 18:53:22 2009 From: toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee (Toomas Aas) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:53:22 +0200 Subject: Netware fileserver based on SATA In-Reply-To: <49AD7436.8050204@oucs.ox.ac.uk> References: <20090303192234.bcoep846gw4wo04o@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> <49ACFF3902000072000007CA@mail2.tpchd.org> <49AD7436.8050204@oucs.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: <20090303205322.umjn1yc7k8g44sss@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> T, 03 m?rts 2009 kirjutas jrd : > Aside from these "mere technical details" SATA can do well for less > than intensive > activity. > Joe D. Thanks for the comments, Joe and Randy! Since I'd be using HP drives in the FC array it seems that I won't lose anything regarding controller quality (it's the same) and probably not too much in performance. Looks like a way to go. -- Toomas Aas From joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk Tue Mar 3 19:28:25 2009 From: joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk (jrd) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:28:25 +0000 Subject: Netware fileserver based on SATA In-Reply-To: <20090303205322.umjn1yc7k8g44sss@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> References: <20090303192234.bcoep846gw4wo04o@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> <49ACFF3902000072000007CA@mail2.tpchd.org> <49AD7436.8050204@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <20090303205322.umjn1yc7k8g44sss@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> Message-ID: <49AD84D9.10700@oucs.ox.ac.uk> Toomas Aas wrote: > T, 03 m?rts 2009 kirjutas jrd : > >> Aside from these "mere technical details" SATA can do well for less >> than intensive >> activity. >> Joe D. > > Thanks for the comments, Joe and Randy! Since I'd be using HP drives in > the FC array it seems that I won't lose anything regarding controller > quality (it's the same) and probably not too much in performance. Looks > like a way to go. > ------------ Now if you were running OES2 SP1/Linux you could add another trick to satisfying customers: shadow volumes. Infrequent access items could be on SATA, important stuff on SCSI/SAS, the user's see them together as one volume, you largely control what goes where. Otherwise, on those technical details, it pays to read the fine print again to ensure those particular drives are supported by the controller. Trusting to brand name is often not quite enough, or as the expression goes: trust but verify. Joe D. From MGlenn at cco.state.oh.us Tue Mar 3 20:23:10 2009 From: MGlenn at cco.state.oh.us (Michael Glenn) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:23:10 -0500 Subject: Netware fileserver based on SATA In-Reply-To: <49AD84D9.10700@oucs.ox.ac.uk> References: <20090303192234.bcoep846gw4wo04o@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> <49ACFF3902000072000007CA@mail2.tpchd.org> <49AD7436.8050204@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <20090303205322.umjn1yc7k8g44sss@webmail.raad.tartu.ee><20090303205322.umjn1yc7k8g44sss@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> <49AD84D9.10700@oucs.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: <49AD4B5E.33FD.002C.1@cco.state.oh.us> Read my mind, Joe; I'm rolling this architecture out within the next two months. I project a savings of boo-koo bucks in storage and archiving architecture. ];) >>> jrd 03/03/2009 14:28 >>> Now if you were running OES2 SP1/Linux you could add another trick to satisfying customers: shadow volumes. Infrequent access items could be on SATA, important stuff on SCSI/SAS, the user's see them together as one volume, you largely control what goes where. From awleask at gmail.com Tue Mar 3 22:10:55 2009 From: awleask at gmail.com (Alister Leask) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 11:10:55 +1300 Subject: Netware fileserver based on SATA In-Reply-To: <49AD4B5E.33FD.002C.1@cco.state.oh.us> References: <20090303192234.bcoep846gw4wo04o@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> <49ACFF3902000072000007CA@mail2.tpchd.org> <49AD7436.8050204@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <20090303205322.umjn1yc7k8g44sss@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> <49AD84D9.10700@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <49AD4B5E.33FD.002C.1@cco.state.oh.us> Message-ID: <397cc55b0903031410u5b328d8m1618858e732c646a@mail.gmail.com> I'm reluctant to jump into this too far as I am fully aware that Joe and Randy know a heck of a lot more about this than I do, but... WRT the NCQ stuff, do not most RAID controllers effectively bypass this technology on the drive anyway? Of course this could have been something specific to our RAID controllers - Intel ones, I'm not sure of the model numbers. In my experience, using SATA (admittedly v1) drives in RAID5 configuration can make life very unpleasant - I have observed that disk I/O can be significantly held up if a previous large file copy (write) hogs the resources. The RAID arrays were 4 and 5 drive affairs and local disk. My experience with SATA disks in a SAN is different, such that there were no problems at all. Maybe my mileage has varied from others. On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 09:23, Michael Glenn wrote: > Read my mind, Joe; I'm rolling this architecture out within the next two > months. I project a savings of boo-koo bucks in storage and archiving > architecture. > ];) > > >>> jrd 03/03/2009 14:28 >>> > > Now if you were running OES2 SP1/Linux you could add another trick > to satisfying customers: shadow volumes. Infrequent access items could be > on SATA, important stuff on SCSI/SAS, the user's see them together as one > volume, you largely control what goes where. > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > -- Alister Leask From RGrein at tpchd.org Tue Mar 3 23:45:15 2009 From: RGrein at tpchd.org (Randy Grein) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:45:15 -0800 Subject: Netware fileserver based on SATA In-Reply-To: <397cc55b0903031410u5b328d8m1618858e732c646a@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090303192234.bcoep846gw4wo04o@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> <49ACFF3902000072000007CA@mail2.tpchd.org> <49AD7436.8050204@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <20090303205322.umjn1yc7k8g44sss@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> <49AD84D9.10700@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <49AD4B5E.33FD.002C.1@cco.state.oh.us> <397cc55b0903031410u5b328d8m1618858e732c646a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49AD508B02000072000007EF@mail2.tpchd.org> Not really - or rather, it will depend on the controller. A decent one like the HP in question will operate effectively, with the NCQ on a drive supplementing the optimization provided by the array controller. It's much like caching on the server supplements tagged command queueing on SCSI drives. A controller MAY turn this off, but performance will suffer greatly under most operations. Your observations on SATA 1 drives are right on, as NCQ was not yet implemented. Performance was therefore adequate for light operations but a heavy load that impacts the entire drive set (big writes especially) will drag the system to it's proverbial knees. Ever-increasing controller cache was touted as the solution to this problem, but it's a bandaide. Once average i/o per second exceeds system capacity cache will fill with requests, eventually choking off further requests until the drives can catch up. Under some conditions this can cause a resonance effect I like to call 'data sloshing' with furious disk activity and poor network performance (with attendant user complaints) alternating in a feedback loop. I'm sure there is a nice differential equation to express the waveform, but I really don't want to attempt solving it. Randy Grein Sr. Network Engineer >>> Alister Leask 3/3/2009 2:10 PM >>> I'm reluctant to jump into this too far as I am fully aware that Joe and Randy know a heck of a lot more about this than I do, but... WRT the NCQ stuff, do not most RAID controllers effectively bypass this technology on the drive anyway? Of course this could have been something specific to our RAID controllers - Intel ones, I'm not sure of the model numbers. In my experience, using SATA (admittedly v1) drives in RAID5 configuration can make life very unpleasant - I have observed that disk I/O can be significantly held up if a previous large file copy (write) hogs the resources. The RAID arrays were 4 and 5 drive affairs and local disk. My experience with SATA disks in a SAN is different, such that there were no problems at all. Maybe my mileage has varied from others. On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 09:23, Michael Glenn wrote: > Read my mind, Joe; I'm rolling this architecture out within the next two > months. I project a savings of boo-koo bucks in storage and archiving > architecture. > ];) > > >>> jrd 03/03/2009 14:28 >>> > > Now if you were running OES2 SP1/Linux you could add another trick > to satisfying customers: shadow volumes. Infrequent access items could be > on SATA, important stuff on SCSI/SAS, the user's see them together as one > volume, you largely control what goes where. > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > -- Alister Leask _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell ************************************************************************************* This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. It has been scanned for viruses. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination, use, review, disclosure, or distribution of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. ************************************************************************************** From smf34 at cam.ac.uk Wed Mar 4 10:24:18 2009 From: smf34 at cam.ac.uk (Simon Flood) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 10:24:18 +0000 Subject: Netware fileserver based on SATA In-Reply-To: <49AD84D9.10700@oucs.ox.ac.uk> References: <20090303192234.bcoep846gw4wo04o@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> <49ACFF3902000072000007CA@mail2.tpchd.org> <49AD7436.8050204@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <20090303205322.umjn1yc7k8g44sss@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> <49AD84D9.10700@oucs.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: <49AE56D2.80305@cam.ac.uk> On 03/03/2009 19:28, jrd wrote: > Now if you were running OES2 SP1/Linux you could add another trick > to satisfying customers: shadow volumes. Infrequent access items could be > on SATA, important stuff on SCSI/SAS, the user's see them together as one > volume, you largely control what goes where. > Otherwise, on those technical details, it pays to read the fine print > again to ensure those particular drives are supported by the controller. > Trusting to brand name is often not quite enough, or as the expression > goes: > trust but verify. It also pays to read the fine print to make sure that the services you want to use support shadow volumes. For example, AFP in OES2 SP1 Linux does not currently support DST. Hope this helps, Simon From Setienne at enesco.com Wed Mar 4 21:26:09 2009 From: Setienne at enesco.com (Scott Etienne) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 15:26:09 -0600 Subject: Dynamic DNS In-Reply-To: <49AE56D2.80305@cam.ac.uk> References: <20090303192234.bcoep846gw4wo04o@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> <49ACFF3902000072000007CA@mail2.tpchd.org> <49AD7436.8050204@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <20090303205322.umjn1yc7k8g44sss@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> <49AD84D9.10700@oucs.ox.ac.uk><49AD84D9.10700@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <49AE56D2.80305@cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: <49AE9D90.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> For a while now, we have had DDNS turned off because static records would often get overwritten by DHCP when an MS server would initially get a DHCP address before realizing that it had already assigned to it a static address. This of course would cause considerable pain until we would discover the problem requiring manual intervention to delete the errant record and re-create the desired record in the DNS database. Some time ago, I had submitted this question to the list, and had various responses including some that looked quite helpful. One of them suggested putting the DDNS in it's own domain, to shield the important resources from this problem. I never asked, but assumed that there would a problem for someone who wanted to use short-named / host-name-only access from the DDNS workstations to the servers that were in a separate domain. The only work around I know for this would be if you manually entered additional search suffixes on the Windows workstations, which is a sloppy way of dealing with it. Does anyone have a better way of dealing with this DDNS issue or are there any recent fixes? Thank you, Scott Etienne Network Engineer Enesco, LLC setienne at enesco.com From Alan at torahaura.com Fri Mar 6 00:35:28 2009 From: Alan at torahaura.com (Alan Rowe) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 16:35:28 -0800 Subject: Installing OES 2 sp1 server Message-ID: <49AFFF50020000490001FB21@mail.torahaura.com> Something very strange happened. Installed the server into the tree and installed DNS and DHCP on the OES Linux server. Now both Imanager and the Java console only see the linux server and none of the netware servers. All of the DNS data is there in NDS. I just cannot see it. The only thing I see in DNS is the rootserverinfo and no server objects. Alan Rowe Torah Aura Productions 888-585-8902 323-585-7312 Fax 323-923-6030 From L.C.Alexander at herts.ac.uk Fri Mar 6 08:57:32 2009 From: L.C.Alexander at herts.ac.uk (Alexander, Larry) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 08:57:32 +0000 Subject: Installing OES 2 sp1 server In-Reply-To: <49AFFF50020000490001FB21@mail.torahaura.com> References: <49AFFF50020000490001FB21@mail.torahaura.com> Message-ID: <249D31647A2E9244899D8E46B942846AAE47FEB9B9@UH-MAILSTOR.herts.ac.uk> I had the scary experience of installing an oes2sp1 server into an existing tree but mistakenly using the local server's IP address instead of a replica-carrying server within the tree when configuring eDirectory. Result...another tree with the same name. No server object, certificates, etc in the original tree. Considered ndsconfig rm, but felt this too dangerous. I downed the server and rebuilt. So might this be what you're experiencing? Are you pointing iManager to the server that you built, or to some other server in the tree? Regards Larry C. Alexander Systems & Applications Manager University of Hertfordshire, College Lane, Hatfield, Herts, AL10 9AB, UK Tel: 01707-284703 Fax: 01707-284666 Mobile: 07734-540924 -----Original Message----- From: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alan Rowe Sent: 06 March 2009 00:35 To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: Installing OES 2 sp1 server Something very strange happened. Installed the server into the tree and installed DNS and DHCP on the OES Linux server. Now both Imanager and the Java console only see the linux server and none of the netware servers. All of the DNS data is there in NDS. I just cannot see it. The only thing I see in DNS is the rootserverinfo and no server objects. Alan Rowe Torah Aura Productions 888-585-8902 323-585-7312 Fax 323-923-6030 _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From Alan at torahaura.com Fri Mar 6 17:20:36 2009 From: Alan at torahaura.com (Alan Rowe) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 09:20:36 -0800 Subject: Installing OES 2 sp1 server In-Reply-To: <249D31647A2E9244899D8E46B942846AAE47FEB9B9@UH-MAILSTOR.herts.ac.uk> References: <49AFFF50020000490001FB21@mail.torahaura.com> <249D31647A2E9244899D8E46B942846AAE47FEB9B9@UH-MAILSTOR.herts.ac.uk> Message-ID: <49B0EAE4020000490001FB38@mail.torahaura.com> Found it this morning. Seems that when it created the dns dhcp objects in the tree it also created a new dns-dhcp locator object. As soon as I deleted that object imanager started seeing the correct locator object and now everything is back. >>> On Friday, March 06, 2009 at 12:57 AM, "Alexander, Larry" wrote: I had the scary experience of installing an oes2sp1 server into an existing tree but mistakenly using the local server's IP address instead of a replica-carrying server within the tree when configuring eDirectory. Result...another tree with the same name. No server object, certificates, etc in the original tree. Considered ndsconfig rm, but felt this too dangerous. I downed the server and rebuilt. So might this be what you're experiencing? Are you pointing iManager to the server that you built, or to some other server in the tree? Regards Larry C. Alexander Systems & Applications Manager University of Hertfordshire, College Lane, Hatfield, Herts, AL10 9AB, UK Tel: 01707-284703 Fax: 01707-284666 Mobile: 07734-540924 -----Original Message----- From: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alan Rowe Sent: 06 March 2009 00:35 To: novell at netlab1.usu.edu Subject: Installing OES 2 sp1 server Something very strange happened. Installed the server into the tree and installed DNS and DHCP on the OES Linux server. Now both Imanager and the Java console only see the linux server and none of the netware servers. All of the DNS data is there in NDS. I just cannot see it. The only thing I see in DNS is the rootserverinfo and no server objects. Alan Rowe Torah Aura Productions 888-585-8902 323-585-7312 Fax 323-923-6030 _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From TJohnson at lancaster.wnyric.org Fri Mar 6 19:19:20 2009 From: TJohnson at lancaster.wnyric.org (TJohnson at lancaster.wnyric.org) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 14:19:20 -0500 Subject: Mount iSCSI snapshot on Linux Message-ID: I have been racking my brain on this one (I still hear the marble rattling around up there)! I have a test OES2SP1/SLES10SP2 2 node cluster with clustered volumes stored on a Lefthand iSCSI SAN and I am trying to take advantage of Lefthand's snapshot feature. I take a snapshot of one of my NSS clustered volumes on the LH SAN and it present itself as a separate LUN. I am able to access the new LUN via iSCSI initiator on one of the cluster nodes and it shows as a new local SCSI disk (same as the other luns) sdf, I can see it in iManager and it shows me that there is an NSS partition which contains a volume which is the name of the volume i originally sanpshotted. So I am fairly confident that it is a viable device. Now, I try to mount using mount -t nssvol VOL /mnt/point -o name=snap,ns=long and mount tells me i have a bad filesystem type or superblock I also tried mounting by simply mount /dev/sdf1 /mnt/point and it reboots my server, nothing in /var/log/message so i am assuming it is a kernel issue that causes the reboot. I would be grateful for any additional info or a point in the right direction or a "what are you crazy you can't do that"! Thanks. T2 Confidentiality Notice: This electronic mail transmission is intended for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. This message may contain confidential student or personnel data or an attorney-client communication and as such is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this message and any attached documents in error, that any review, dissemination/disclosure, copying, distribution, or taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete the original message and documents. Thank you for your cooperation. From James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Fri Mar 6 20:41:41 2009 From: James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com (James Taylor) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:41:41 -0500 Subject: Mount iSCSI snapshot on Linux In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49B14435020000750002C4E6@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> Part of the LeftHand snapshot requirement is to quiesce the volume prior to the snapshot. One of my clients was dealing with this on a NetWare server, and there was no official word at the time as to how to best deal with this, though one of the engineers had a script he was trying out. I believe that the issue was more with dealing with NSS rather than the actual OS platform. I'm not sure what the resolution was, but if the snapshot did not include a prior quiescence function, then the partition probably really is unusable. -jt James Taylor The East Cobb Group, Inc. 678-697-9420 james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com http://www.eastcobbgroup.com >>> 3/6/2009 02:19 PM >>> I have been racking my brain on this one (I still hear the marble rattling around up there)! I have a test OES2SP1/SLES10SP2 2 node cluster with clustered volumes stored on a Lefthand iSCSI SAN and I am trying to take advantage of Lefthand's snapshot feature. I take a snapshot of one of my NSS clustered volumes on the LH SAN and it present itself as a separate LUN. I am able to access the new LUN via iSCSI initiator on one of the cluster nodes and it shows as a new local SCSI disk (same as the other luns) sdf, I can see it in iManager and it shows me that there is an NSS partition which contains a volume which is the name of the volume i originally sanpshotted. So I am fairly confident that it is a viable device. Now, I try to mount using mount -t nssvol VOL /mnt/point -o name=snap,ns=long and mount tells me i have a bad filesystem type or superblock I also tried mounting by simply mount /dev/sdf1 /mnt/point and it reboots my server, nothing in /var/log/message so i am assuming it is a kernel issue that causes the reboot. I would be grateful for any additional info or a point in the right direction or a "what are you crazy you can't do that"! Thanks. T2 Confidentiality Notice: This electronic mail transmission is intended for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. 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Thank you for your cooperation. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From TJohnson at lancaster.wnyric.org Fri Mar 6 20:48:01 2009 From: TJohnson at lancaster.wnyric.org (TJohnson at lancaster.wnyric.org) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 15:48:01 -0500 Subject: Mount iSCSI snapshot on Linux In-Reply-To: <49B14435020000750002C4E6@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> References: <49B14435020000750002C4E6@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> Message-ID: James, Thanks, I am grilling my Lefthand SA right now and since my post I have tried ext3 and xfs filesystems and I am getting the wrong fs type or bad superblock error again. I will post with any info I get. Thanks again. T2 "James Taylor" To Sent by: "Novell LAN Interest Group" novell-bounces at ne tlab1.oucs.ox.ac. cc uk Subject Re: Mount iSCSI snapshot on Linux 03/06/2009 03:43 PM Please respond to Novell LAN Interest Group Part of the LeftHand snapshot requirement is to quiesce the volume prior to the snapshot. One of my clients was dealing with this on a NetWare server, and there was no official word at the time as to how to best deal with this, though one of the engineers had a script he was trying out. I believe that the issue was more with dealing with NSS rather than the actual OS platform. I'm not sure what the resolution was, but if the snapshot did not include a prior quiescence function, then the partition probably really is unusable. -jt James Taylor The East Cobb Group, Inc. 678-697-9420 james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com http://www.eastcobbgroup.com >>> 3/6/2009 02:19 PM >>> I have been racking my brain on this one (I still hear the marble rattling around up there)! I have a test OES2SP1/SLES10SP2 2 node cluster with clustered volumes stored on a Lefthand iSCSI SAN and I am trying to take advantage of Lefthand's snapshot feature. I take a snapshot of one of my NSS clustered volumes on the LH SAN and it present itself as a separate LUN. I am able to access the new LUN via iSCSI initiator on one of the cluster nodes and it shows as a new local SCSI disk (same as the other luns) sdf, I can see it in iManager and it shows me that there is an NSS partition which contains a volume which is the name of the volume i originally sanpshotted. So I am fairly confident that it is a viable device. Now, I try to mount using mount -t nssvol VOL /mnt/point -o name=snap,ns=long and mount tells me i have a bad filesystem type or superblock I also tried mounting by simply mount /dev/sdf1 /mnt/point and it reboots my server, nothing in /var/log/message so i am assuming it is a kernel issue that causes the reboot. 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From Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee Sun Mar 8 12:57:21 2009 From: Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee (Alar Pandis) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 14:57:21 +0200 Subject: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 loosescontactevery 24 hours In-Reply-To: <49AD5321020000AB0001A160@dylan.trident.acustica.co.uk> References: <00c301c991df$68d9f9a0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee><00b501c99be3$3e6ad500$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> <49AD5321020000AB0001A160@dylan.trident.acustica.co.uk> Message-ID: <008d01c99fed$6b31a150$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> Hi and thanks Simon! I had no problem with 3Com NIC's, at least so far. And we do use also 3Com 1100, 3300, 4400 and 4500 switches and are very pleased. But, probably is You and Randy right, problem could be in some diying NIC. More thanks, Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Simon Shilton [mailto:Simon.Shilton at acustica.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 5:56 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 loosescontactevery 24 hours Don't know if this may be relevant, and I am scratching my head to recall when I ran BM 3.6 on NW5.1, but I never had any joy with 3Com NICs, despite having 3Com switches, I could never get reliable connections. In the end I switched all our NW servers to Intel NICs and all the problems vanished. looking back through the thread I am not sure if this is one of the swap outs you have already tried. best of luck Simon >>> On 03 March 2009 at 09:34, in message <00b501c99be3$3e6ad500$8800000a at infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee>, "Alar Pandis" wrote: Hi again and thanks Randy! I can tell from 3Com switch to BM box (outside line) -- 1671 CRC errors right now since ... port is up (I changed it from one switch to another to except problems) 5 days or so. I see there on another ports much worse statistics, probably ... it is ok. I'm not sure. But I'd check every switch connection to BM box NIC's and 3Com 4500 tells (when I log in via telnet) about our WiFi subnet (there is 3Com AP's and all students with WiFi devices) that "The link partner of Ethernet1 /0/44 may be bad,sending lots of error packets !". Inside box is for this subnet old 3Com 3c5x9 NIC. For outside line 3c59x and other three is 3c90xc NIC's. More thanks, Alar. >>> Randy Grein RGrein at tpchd.org Mon Mar 2 18:16:32 GMT 2009 <<< Hmm. I'm out of ideas - unless you're getting a lot of network errors. Can you check the network adapter stats AND the switch port? Randy Grein Sr. Network Engineer -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 12:41 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi and thanks again Randy! Tried, same happen. Seems to that at weekends it work some 36 hours and weekdays 25. More thanks, Alar. >>> Randy Grein RGrein at tpchd.org Thu Feb 26 17:23:37 GMT 2009 <<< What jumps out at me is the nonreferenced delay time - 30 minutes is a LONG time. It's been a while since I've had to deal with a traditional volume, but try cutting it back to 30 seconds - you can always bump it back up. I seem to recall some odd things happening with directory cache buffer exhaustion. Randy Grein Sr. Network Engineer -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 5:48 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi and thanks Randy! I'd load proxy with cc option on the second day, I think, when this start to happen ... some two weeks and few days ago. Right now proxy isn't loaded for week or so. In console log I see that just some bordermanager audit-nlm is autoloaded. Just for a case I add some parameters. May be You see something I don't. Machine is Pentium III 450 MHz (Intel motherboard), 3x256 Mb RAM (was 3x128 when this start to happen). Disk is 50 GB (sys, cache and cache1). Five 3Com NIC's. I'd replace memory, harddisk and power-supply. Original cache buffers 195891 Total cache buffers 162941 Long term cache hits (server up 9 hours) 67% and rising Packet receive buffers 5000 (min 5000, max 10000) Directory cache buffers 2051 (min 2000, max 5000) (When I normally restart server Directory cache buffers is about 1500+, but when it is restarted by force then it show 2000+.) Allocated memory pool 41529344 5% Cache buffer memory 667406336 83% Cache movable memory 0 0% Cache non-movable memory 167936 0 Code and data memory 93265920 12% Total server work memory 804845568 100% Tuneup mostly with settings from Craig Johnson. Set Maximum Packet Receive Buffers = 10000 Set Minimum Packet Receive Buffers = 5000 Set New Packet Receive Buffer Wait Time = 0.1 sec Set Maximum Interrupt Events = 50 Set Garbage Collection Interval = 5 min Set Read Ahead Enabled = on Set Maximum Concurrent Disk Cache Writes = 750 Set Dirty Disk Cache Delay Time = 0.1 sec Set Dirty Directory Cache Delay Time = 0.1 sec Set Maximum Concurrent Directory Cache Writes = 125 Set Directory Cache Allocation Wait Time = 0.1 sec Set Directory Cache Buffer NonReferenced delay = 30 min Set Minimum Directory Cache Buffers = 2000 Set Maximum Directory Cache Buffers = 5000 Set Maximum Number of Internal Directory Handles = 500 Set Immediate Purge of Deleted Files = on Set Enable File Compression = off Set Maximum File Locks = 100000 Set Enable Hardware Write Back = on Set Enable Disk Read After Write Verify = off Set Worker Thread Execute In A Row Count = 15 Set Pseudo Preemption Count = 200 Set Minimum Service Processes = 200 Set Maximum Service Processes = 500 More thanks, Alar. >>> Randy Grein RGrein at tpchd.org Thu Feb 26 15:31:29 GMT 2009 <<< One bare possibility occurs to me - have you cleared the proxy cache on this server yet? Randy Grein Sr. Network Engineer -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 1:08 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi again with still same problem! I have from outside network two ping addresses -- server itself and one email server behind. First start failed ping to email server, ping to server from outside and inside failed some minute(s) after that. And then console from server does work, but ... restart from console not. No error messages or whatsoever. After restart server work ok some 24-25 hours and same happen again. Yesterday we changed from one outside line to another, but probably problem lies not there. Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:47 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contactevery 24 hours Hi again! Did change hard disk and also power supply! But ... same problem. Interesting that after re(over)installing SP8 this time cycle did change from approximately from 24-25 hours to 34-35 hours! I'm lost! More thanks, Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 12:07 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contactevery 24 hours Perhaps I must replace a hard disk? Could there be problems NetWare can't recognize? I mean, show errors? No error appear during copying all files from this disk, for backup. Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 11:38 AM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contactevery 24 hours Hi again! Still. I'd reinstall SP8 and it hold on ... almost 36 hours and ... lost contact again! Loaded (from console) is just dhcp and DNS. Could it be NDS-related!? I can't see any memory lost, but may be I didn't look the right place!? Any further ideas? More thanks, Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:42 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contactevery 24 hours Hi again and thanks James! I'm agree -- this our NW 5.1 with BM 3.6 on top of it has done very good job, indeed! But now I'm thinking replace it with special firewall device like NSA 2400 from Sonicwall etc. I'm not sure. But, anyway, I can't do that in middle of working period, may be at summer or so. If something with this server more bad does not happen, I hope not. I'll wait until server does next unplanned stop as last day I'd removed from autoexec some SSL and FTP components still loaded with no use and then try to reinstall SP8. More thanks, Alar. >>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Feb 18 14:29:09 GMT 2009 >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Yes. Also, pay attention to any post sp8 updates that may have been applied. There may be some TCP updates since the original patch, so you want to make sure everything matches afterward. FYI - I'm still running both of my public DNS servers, with BM, on NW65sp8. I've had these servers (workstations, actually) running for over 7 years, and I need to update the hardware and replace then with linux servers, but they have been so rock solid, I hate to touch them. -jt James Taylor The East Cobb Group, Inc. 678-697-9420 james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com http://www.eastcobbgroup.com -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 4:16 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi again and thanks! Well, that's something! So, I just run SP8 again as I did it before? Probably I must change tcpip later back as it is for BM. More thanks, Alar. >>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Feb 18 13:43:31 GMT 2009 <<< Since this started occurring without any know related event, it may be an instance of file corruption somewhere. I have had strange, intermittent problems with no obvious cause that I have cured by reinstalling the latest support pack. It replaces a very large percentage of system files, so there is a good chance that, if there is a corrupted file, it will be replaced. It is a bit of a shotgun approach, but it doesn't usually take long and often works. -jt James Taylor The East Cobb Group, Inc. 678-697-9420 james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com http://www.eastcobbgroup.com -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 12:58 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi! As no reply for this, I little bit rephrase my question! As no BM stuff is loaded anymore I wonder where to look when NetWare 5.1 SP8 start act as described below?! (Well, it start act so being loaded also with BM stuff.) This machine is first between outside world. Almost nothing is loaded, just NAT and filtering as it still acts like firewall. And ... 24 hours and connection is broken, restart and again 24 hours. Any ideas? More thanks, Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:37 AM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi again! 24 hours and it looses all network connectivity and need restart. Sunday morning I'd replace all memory pieces and add twice as much memory. Also did clean it inside, little bit dusty. Nothing helps. Right now I see that directory cache buffers is by 34 over minimum 1700, but last time when I saw same and restart machine it decrease to 1110 or so. I have on server console just console, timesync debug screen, named, dhcpsrvr debug screen, novell ssl server handshake screen and monitor. Usually I have started brdsrv and inetcfg and filtcfg, nothing more. What I'd when proxy start to show on client browsers memory error. I'd add three add ip addresses (in autoexec) to allow direct connection between outside and inside worlds for one server and two as for future. Removed from autoexec tftp start, we don't use it anymore. And ... nothing more. Any ideas? More thanks, Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 3:49 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi! BM 3.6 SP2a, NW 5.1 SP8. Started last Monday our BM server start to behave oddly. First we noticed that internet access via BM proxy start show "Status : 500 Internal Server Error -- Description : Novell Proxy Memory Allocation error". After I'd restart server (change almost nothing, add few NAT addresses I have planned, this requires restart) it did work almost exactly 24 hours and ... we did lost connection to it. So few days. Exactly 24 hours. On server side it did work (console was ok) and I could note Monitor info etc., but on restart attempt from console it didn't restart - console hung -, but in other way was accessible for open programs from console. I have to push the button. And ... 24 and same. It did work 310 days before that and years before that wo any major problems. Any ideas to start for looking some numbers from console. I tried, but for me it shows almost ... normal. Didn't start brdsrv (incl. proxy) anymore and same happen, few hours later than 24 hours running. Any help is greatly appreciated. More thanks, Alar. See also threads http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-prox ies/359814-novell-proxy-memory-allocation-error.html http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-inst all-setup/360651-bm-3-6-looses-access-every-24-hours-so.html _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee Sun Mar 8 12:57:45 2009 From: Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee (Alar Pandis) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 14:57:45 +0200 Subject: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 loosescontact every 24 hours In-Reply-To: <49ACE29802000072000007B0@mail2.tpchd.org> References: <00c301c991df$68d9f9a0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee><00b501c99be3$3e6ad500$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> <49ACE29802000072000007B0@mail2.tpchd.org> Message-ID: <008e01c99fed$79c021b0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> Hi again and thanks Randy! I have not bad feelings about 3Com NIC's. So far! As we did use outside proxy (our own is not loaded at all) and people said internet access is slow and I'd allow direct http and https (our proxy is not loaded, I repeat myself) and ... seems to me this saves our firewall little bit as right now it is up already ... 2 days and 10 hours -- for month nothing such. Could this shed a light? Probably, as this box is old anyway -- hardware and also software, I will change firewall to special Cisco box. Peace of mind is also worth something! =) More thanks, Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Randy Grein [mailto:RGrein at tpchd.org] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 5:56 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 loosescontact every 24 hours Not a high number of CRC errors, but I have had my share of problems with 3Com cards dying - as in dropping packets completely over time like you're seeing. If you can, try replacing the likeliest cards and test some more. Randy Grein Sr. Network Engineer >>> "Alar Pandis" 3/3/2009 1:34 AM >>> Hi again and thanks Randy! I can tell from 3Com switch to BM box (outside line) -- 1671 CRC errors right now since ... port is up (I changed it from one switch to another to except problems) 5 days or so. I see there on another ports much worse statistics, probably ... it is ok. I'm not sure. But I'd check every switch connection to BM box NIC's and 3Com 4500 tells (when I log in via telnet) about our WiFi subnet (there is 3Com AP's and all students with WiFi devices) that "The link partner of Ethernet1 /0/44 may be bad,sending lots of error packets !". Inside box is for this subnet old 3Com 3c5x9 NIC. For outside line 3c59x and other three is 3c90xc NIC's. More thanks, Alar. >>> Randy Grein RGrein at tpchd.org Mon Mar 2 18:16:32 GMT 2009 <<< Hmm. I'm out of ideas - unless you're getting a lot of network errors. Can you check the network adapter stats AND the switch port? Randy Grein Sr. Network Engineer -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 12:41 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi and thanks again Randy! Tried, same happen. Seems to that at weekends it work some 36 hours and weekdays 25. More thanks, Alar. >>> Randy Grein RGrein at tpchd.org Thu Feb 26 17:23:37 GMT 2009 <<< What jumps out at me is the nonreferenced delay time - 30 minutes is a LONG time. It's been a while since I've had to deal with a traditional volume, but try cutting it back to 30 seconds - you can always bump it back up. I seem to recall some odd things happening with directory cache buffer exhaustion. Randy Grein Sr. Network Engineer -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 5:48 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi and thanks Randy! I'd load proxy with cc option on the second day, I think, when this start to happen ... some two weeks and few days ago. Right now proxy isn't loaded for week or so. In console log I see that just some bordermanager audit-nlm is autoloaded. Just for a case I add some parameters. May be You see something I don't. Machine is Pentium III 450 MHz (Intel motherboard), 3x256 Mb RAM (was 3x128 when this start to happen). Disk is 50 GB (sys, cache and cache1). Five 3Com NIC's. I'd replace memory, harddisk and power-supply. Original cache buffers 195891 Total cache buffers 162941 Long term cache hits (server up 9 hours) 67% and rising Packet receive buffers 5000 (min 5000, max 10000) Directory cache buffers 2051 (min 2000, max 5000) (When I normally restart server Directory cache buffers is about 1500+, but when it is restarted by force then it show 2000+.) Allocated memory pool 41529344 5% Cache buffer memory 667406336 83% Cache movable memory 0 0% Cache non-movable memory 167936 0 Code and data memory 93265920 12% Total server work memory 804845568 100% Tuneup mostly with settings from Craig Johnson. Set Maximum Packet Receive Buffers = 10000 Set Minimum Packet Receive Buffers = 5000 Set New Packet Receive Buffer Wait Time = 0.1 sec Set Maximum Interrupt Events = 50 Set Garbage Collection Interval = 5 min Set Read Ahead Enabled = on Set Maximum Concurrent Disk Cache Writes = 750 Set Dirty Disk Cache Delay Time = 0.1 sec Set Dirty Directory Cache Delay Time = 0.1 sec Set Maximum Concurrent Directory Cache Writes = 125 Set Directory Cache Allocation Wait Time = 0.1 sec Set Directory Cache Buffer NonReferenced delay = 30 min Set Minimum Directory Cache Buffers = 2000 Set Maximum Directory Cache Buffers = 5000 Set Maximum Number of Internal Directory Handles = 500 Set Immediate Purge of Deleted Files = on Set Enable File Compression = off Set Maximum File Locks = 100000 Set Enable Hardware Write Back = on Set Enable Disk Read After Write Verify = off Set Worker Thread Execute In A Row Count = 15 Set Pseudo Preemption Count = 200 Set Minimum Service Processes = 200 Set Maximum Service Processes = 500 More thanks, Alar. >>> Randy Grein RGrein at tpchd.org Thu Feb 26 15:31:29 GMT 2009 <<< One bare possibility occurs to me - have you cleared the proxy cache on this server yet? Randy Grein Sr. Network Engineer -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 1:08 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi again with still same problem! I have from outside network two ping addresses -- server itself and one email server behind. First start failed ping to email server, ping to server from outside and inside failed some minute(s) after that. And then console from server does work, but ... restart from console not. No error messages or whatsoever. After restart server work ok some 24-25 hours and same happen again. Yesterday we changed from one outside line to another, but probably problem lies not there. Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:47 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contactevery 24 hours Hi again! Did change hard disk and also power supply! But ... same problem. Interesting that after re(over)installing SP8 this time cycle did change from approximately from 24-25 hours to 34-35 hours! I'm lost! More thanks, Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 12:07 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contactevery 24 hours Perhaps I must replace a hard disk? Could there be problems NetWare can't recognize? I mean, show errors? No error appear during copying all files from this disk, for backup. Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 11:38 AM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contactevery 24 hours Hi again! Still. I'd reinstall SP8 and it hold on ... almost 36 hours and ... lost contact again! Loaded (from console) is just dhcp and DNS. Could it be NDS-related!? I can't see any memory lost, but may be I didn't look the right place!? Any further ideas? More thanks, Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:42 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contactevery 24 hours Hi again and thanks James! I'm agree -- this our NW 5.1 with BM 3.6 on top of it has done very good job, indeed! But now I'm thinking replace it with special firewall device like NSA 2400 from Sonicwall etc. I'm not sure. But, anyway, I can't do that in middle of working period, may be at summer or so. If something with this server more bad does not happen, I hope not. I'll wait until server does next unplanned stop as last day I'd removed from autoexec some SSL and FTP components still loaded with no use and then try to reinstall SP8. More thanks, Alar. >>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Feb 18 14:29:09 GMT 2009 >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Yes. Also, pay attention to any post sp8 updates that may have been applied. There may be some TCP updates since the original patch, so you want to make sure everything matches afterward. FYI - I'm still running both of my public DNS servers, with BM, on NW65sp8. I've had these servers (workstations, actually) running for over 7 years, and I need to update the hardware and replace then with linux servers, but they have been so rock solid, I hate to touch them. -jt James Taylor The East Cobb Group, Inc. 678-697-9420 james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com http://www.eastcobbgroup.com -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 4:16 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi again and thanks! Well, that's something! So, I just run SP8 again as I did it before? Probably I must change tcpip later back as it is for BM. More thanks, Alar. >>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Feb 18 13:43:31 GMT 2009 <<< Since this started occurring without any know related event, it may be an instance of file corruption somewhere. I have had strange, intermittent problems with no obvious cause that I have cured by reinstalling the latest support pack. It replaces a very large percentage of system files, so there is a good chance that, if there is a corrupted file, it will be replaced. It is a bit of a shotgun approach, but it doesn't usually take long and often works. -jt James Taylor The East Cobb Group, Inc. 678-697-9420 james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com http://www.eastcobbgroup.com -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 12:58 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi! As no reply for this, I little bit rephrase my question! As no BM stuff is loaded anymore I wonder where to look when NetWare 5.1 SP8 start act as described below?! (Well, it start act so being loaded also with BM stuff.) This machine is first between outside world. Almost nothing is loaded, just NAT and filtering as it still acts like firewall. And ... 24 hours and connection is broken, restart and again 24 hours. Any ideas? More thanks, Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:37 AM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi again! 24 hours and it looses all network connectivity and need restart. Sunday morning I'd replace all memory pieces and add twice as much memory. Also did clean it inside, little bit dusty. Nothing helps. Right now I see that directory cache buffers is by 34 over minimum 1700, but last time when I saw same and restart machine it decrease to 1110 or so. I have on server console just console, timesync debug screen, named, dhcpsrvr debug screen, novell ssl server handshake screen and monitor. Usually I have started brdsrv and inetcfg and filtcfg, nothing more. What I'd when proxy start to show on client browsers memory error. I'd add three add ip addresses (in autoexec) to allow direct connection between outside and inside worlds for one server and two as for future. Removed from autoexec tftp start, we don't use it anymore. And ... nothing more. Any ideas? More thanks, Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 3:49 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours Hi! BM 3.6 SP2a, NW 5.1 SP8. Started last Monday our BM server start to behave oddly. First we noticed that internet access via BM proxy start show "Status : 500 Internal Server Error -- Description : Novell Proxy Memory Allocation error". After I'd restart server (change almost nothing, add few NAT addresses I have planned, this requires restart) it did work almost exactly 24 hours and ... we did lost connection to it. So few days. Exactly 24 hours. On server side it did work (console was ok) and I could note Monitor info etc., but on restart attempt from console it didn't restart - console hung -, but in other way was accessible for open programs from console. I have to push the button. And ... 24 and same. It did work 310 days before that and years before that wo any major problems. Any ideas to start for looking some numbers from console. I tried, but for me it shows almost ... normal. Didn't start brdsrv (incl. proxy) anymore and same happen, few hours later than 24 hours running. Any help is greatly appreciated. More thanks, Alar. See also threads http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-prox ies/359814-novell-proxy-memory-allocation-error.html http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-inst all-setup/360651-bm-3-6-looses-access-every-24-hours-so.html _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell **************************************************************************** ********* This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. It has been scanned for viruses. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination, use, review, disclosure, or distribution of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. **************************************************************************** ********** From larry at ladyburd.com Sun Mar 8 13:26:53 2009 From: larry at ladyburd.com (Larry Burd) Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 09:26:53 -0400 Subject: win xp joining domain Message-ID: <10742ff4b6f12c9f0cca9cc1c0919d46@ladyburd.com> little off topic.... is there a list of things that change within the XP operating system that changes once a pc joins a winserver domain ? thank you, Larry From randygrein at comcast.net Sun Mar 8 18:14:01 2009 From: randygrein at comcast.net (Randy Grein) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 11:14:01 -0700 Subject: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 loosescontact every 24 hours In-Reply-To: <008e01c99fed$79c021b0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> References: <00c301c991df$68d9f9a0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee><00b501c99be3$3e6ad500$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> <49ACE29802000072000007B0@mail2.tpchd.org> <008e01c99fed$79c021b0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> Message-ID: <443E1E7A-5B4A-40DB-84E6-4329EE558AFF@comcast.net> Replacing it entirely will almost certainly solve the problem. (grin) If that is cost-prohibitive (a multi interface firewall is expensive) reconsider replacing the hardware - all of it. This is a core function of your network and trying to sort out which component is failing is not worth the downtime and user heartache. Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA On Mar 8, 2009, at 5:57 AM, Alar Pandis wrote: > Hi again and thanks Randy! > I have not bad feelings about 3Com NIC's. So far! As we did use > outside > proxy (our own is not loaded at all) and people said internet access > is slow > and I'd allow direct http and https (our proxy is not loaded, I repeat > myself) and ... seems to me this saves our firewall little bit as > right now > it is up already ... 2 days and 10 hours -- for month nothing such. > Could > this shed a light? > Probably, as this box is old anyway -- hardware and also software, I > will > change firewall to special Cisco box. Peace of mind is also worth > something! > =) > More thanks, Alar. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Randy Grein [mailto:RGrein at tpchd.org] > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 5:56 PM > To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' > Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 > loosescontact > every 24 hours > > Not a high number of CRC errors, but I have had my share of problems > with > 3Com cards dying - as in dropping packets completely over time like > you're > seeing. If you can, try replacing the likeliest cards and test some > more. > > > > > Randy Grein > Sr. Network Engineer >>>> "Alar Pandis" 3/3/2009 1:34 AM >>> > Hi again and thanks Randy! > I can tell from 3Com switch to BM box (outside line) -- 1671 CRC > errors > right now since ... port is up (I changed it from one switch to > another to > except problems) 5 days or so. I see there on another ports much worse > statistics, probably ... it is ok. I'm not sure. > But I'd check every switch connection to BM box NIC's and 3Com 4500 > tells > (when I log in via telnet) about our WiFi subnet (there is 3Com AP's > and all > students with WiFi devices) that "The link partner of Ethernet1 / > 0/44 may be > bad,sending lots of error packets !". Inside box is for this subnet > old 3Com > 3c5x9 NIC. For outside line 3c59x and other three is 3c90xc NIC's. > More thanks, Alar. > >>>> Randy Grein RGrein at tpchd.org Mon Mar 2 18:16:32 GMT 2009 <<< > > Hmm. I'm out of ideas - unless you're getting a lot of network > errors. Can > you check the network adapter stats AND the switch port? > > Randy Grein > Sr. Network Engineer > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] > Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 12:41 PM > To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' > Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses > contact > every 24 hours > > Hi and thanks again Randy! > Tried, same happen. Seems to that at weekends it work some 36 hours > and > weekdays 25. > More thanks, Alar. > >>>> Randy Grein RGrein at tpchd.org Thu Feb 26 17:23:37 GMT 2009 <<< > > > What jumps out at me is the nonreferenced delay time - 30 minutes is > a LONG > time. It's been a while since I've had to deal with a traditional > volume, > but try cutting it back to 30 seconds - you can always bump it back > up. I > seem to recall some odd things happening with directory cache buffer > exhaustion. > > Randy Grein > Sr. Network Engineer > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 5:48 PM > To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' > Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses > contact > every 24 hours > > Hi and thanks Randy! > > I'd load proxy with cc option on the second day, I think, when this > start to > happen ... some two weeks and few days ago. Right now proxy isn't > loaded for > week or so. In console log I see that just some bordermanager audit- > nlm is > autoloaded. > > Just for a case I add some parameters. May be You see something I > don't. > Machine is Pentium III 450 MHz (Intel motherboard), 3x256 Mb RAM > (was 3x128 > when this start to happen). Disk is 50 GB (sys, cache and cache1). > Five 3Com > NIC's. I'd replace memory, harddisk and power-supply. > > Original cache buffers 195891 > Total cache buffers 162941 > Long term cache hits (server up 9 hours) 67% and rising > Packet receive buffers 5000 (min 5000, max 10000) > Directory cache buffers 2051 (min 2000, max 5000) > > (When I normally restart server Directory cache buffers is about > 1500+, but > when it is restarted by force then it show 2000+.) > > Allocated memory pool 41529344 5% > Cache buffer memory 667406336 83% > Cache movable memory 0 0% > Cache non-movable memory 167936 0 > Code and data memory 93265920 12% > Total server work memory 804845568 100% > > Tuneup mostly with settings from Craig Johnson. > > Set Maximum Packet Receive Buffers = 10000 > Set Minimum Packet Receive Buffers = 5000 > Set New Packet Receive Buffer Wait Time = 0.1 sec > Set Maximum Interrupt Events = 50 > Set Garbage Collection Interval = 5 min > Set Read Ahead Enabled = on > Set Maximum Concurrent Disk Cache Writes = 750 > Set Dirty Disk Cache Delay Time = 0.1 sec > Set Dirty Directory Cache Delay Time = 0.1 sec > Set Maximum Concurrent Directory Cache Writes = 125 > Set Directory Cache Allocation Wait Time = 0.1 sec > Set Directory Cache Buffer NonReferenced delay = 30 min > Set Minimum Directory Cache Buffers = 2000 > Set Maximum Directory Cache Buffers = 5000 > Set Maximum Number of Internal Directory Handles = 500 > Set Immediate Purge of Deleted Files = on > Set Enable File Compression = off > Set Maximum File Locks = 100000 > Set Enable Hardware Write Back = on > Set Enable Disk Read After Write Verify = off > Set Worker Thread Execute In A Row Count = 15 > Set Pseudo Preemption Count = 200 > Set Minimum Service Processes = 200 > Set Maximum Service Processes = 500 > > More thanks, Alar. > >>>> Randy Grein RGrein at tpchd.org Thu Feb 26 15:31:29 GMT 2009 <<< > > One bare possibility occurs to me - have you cleared the proxy cache > on this > server yet? > > Randy Grein > Sr. Network Engineer > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 1:08 PM > To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' > Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses > contact > every 24 hours > > Hi again with still same problem! > I have from outside network two ping addresses -- server itself and > one > email server behind. First start failed ping to email server, ping > to server > from outside and inside failed some minute(s) after that. And then > console > from server does work, but ... restart from console not. No error > messages > or whatsoever. After restart server work ok some 24-25 hours and > same happen > again. > Yesterday we changed from one outside line to another, but probably > problem > lies not there. > Alar. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] > Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:47 PM > To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' > Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses > contactevery 24 hours > > Hi again! > Did change hard disk and also power supply! But ... same problem. > Interesting that after re(over)installing SP8 this time cycle did > change > from approximately from 24-25 hours to 34-35 hours! > I'm lost! > More thanks, Alar. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 12:07 PM > To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' > Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses > contactevery 24 hours > > Perhaps I must replace a hard disk? Could there be problems NetWare > can't > recognize? I mean, show errors? No error appear during copying all > files > from this disk, for backup. > Alar. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 11:38 AM > To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' > Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses > contactevery 24 hours > > Hi again! > Still. I'd reinstall SP8 and it hold on ... almost 36 hours and ... > lost > contact again! > Loaded (from console) is just dhcp and DNS. Could it be NDS- > related!? I > can't see any memory lost, but may be I didn't look the right place!? > Any further ideas? > More thanks, Alar. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] > Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:42 PM > To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' > Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses > contactevery 24 hours > > Hi again and thanks James! > I'm agree -- this our NW 5.1 with BM 3.6 on top of it has done very > good > job, indeed! But now I'm thinking replace it with special firewall > device > like NSA 2400 from Sonicwall etc. I'm not sure. But, anyway, I can't > do that > in middle of working period, may be at summer or so. If something > with this > server more bad does not happen, I hope not. > I'll wait until server does next unplanned stop as last day I'd > removed from > autoexec some SSL and FTP components still loaded with no use and > then try > to reinstall SP8. > More thanks, Alar. > >>>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Feb 18 >>>> 14:29:09 GMT > 2009 >>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > Yes. Also, pay attention to any post sp8 updates that may have been > applied. There may be some TCP updates since the original patch, so > you > want to make sure everything matches afterward. > > FYI - I'm still running both of my public DNS servers, with BM, on > NW65sp8. > I've had these servers (workstations, actually) running for over 7 > years, > and I need to update the hardware and replace then with linux > servers, but > they have been so rock solid, I hate to touch them. > > -jt > > > James Taylor > The East Cobb Group, Inc. > 678-697-9420 > james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com > http://www.eastcobbgroup.com > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] > Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 4:16 PM > To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' > Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses > contact > every 24 hours > > Hi again and thanks! > Well, that's something! > So, I just run SP8 again as I did it before? Probably I must change > tcpip > later back as it is for BM. > More thanks, Alar. > >>>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Feb 18 >>>> 13:43:31 GMT > 2009 <<< > > > Since this started occurring without any know related event, it may > be an > instance of file corruption somewhere. I have had strange, > intermittent > problems with no obvious cause that I have cured by reinstalling the > latest > support pack. It replaces a very large percentage of system files, > so there > is a good chance that, if there is a corrupted file, it will be > replaced. > It is a bit of a shotgun approach, but it doesn't usually take long > and > often works. > > -jt > > > James Taylor > The East Cobb Group, Inc. > 678-697-9420 > james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com > http://www.eastcobbgroup.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] > Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 12:58 PM > To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' > Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses > contact > every 24 hours > > Hi! > As no reply for this, I little bit rephrase my question! As no BM > stuff is > loaded anymore I wonder where to look when NetWare 5.1 SP8 start act > as > described below?! (Well, it start act so being loaded also with BM > stuff.) > This machine is first between outside world. Almost nothing is > loaded, just > NAT and filtering as it still acts like firewall. > And ... 24 hours and connection is broken, restart and again 24 hours. > Any ideas? > More thanks, Alar. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:37 AM > To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' > Subject: RE: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours > > Hi again! > 24 hours and it looses all network connectivity and need restart. > Sunday > morning I'd replace all memory pieces and add twice as much memory. > Also did > clean it inside, little bit dusty. Nothing helps. > Right now I see that directory cache buffers is by 34 over minimum > 1700, but > last time when I saw same and restart machine it decrease to 1110 or > so. > I have on server console just console, timesync debug screen, named, > dhcpsrvr debug screen, novell ssl server handshake screen and monitor. > Usually I have started brdsrv and inetcfg and filtcfg, nothing more. > What I'd when proxy start to show on client browsers memory error. > I'd add three add ip addresses (in autoexec) to allow direct > connection > between outside and inside worlds for one server and two as for > future. > Removed from autoexec tftp start, we don't use it anymore. And ... > nothing > more. > Any ideas? > More thanks, > Alar. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] > Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 3:49 PM > To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' > Subject: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours > > Hi! > BM 3.6 SP2a, NW 5.1 SP8. Started last Monday our BM server start to > behave > oddly. First we noticed that internet access via BM proxy start show > "Status > : 500 Internal Server Error -- Description : Novell Proxy Memory > Allocation > error". After I'd restart server (change almost nothing, add few NAT > addresses I have planned, this requires restart) it did work almost > exactly > 24 hours and ... we did lost connection to it. So few days. Exactly 24 > hours. On server side it did work (console was ok) and I could note > Monitor > info etc., but on restart attempt from console it didn't restart - > console > hung -, but in other way was accessible for open programs from > console. I > have to push the button. And ... 24 and same. It did work 310 days > before > that and years before that wo any major problems. > Any ideas to start for looking some numbers from console. I tried, > but for > me it shows almost ... normal. Didn't start brdsrv (incl. proxy) > anymore and > same happen, few hours later than 24 hours running. > Any help is greatly appreciated. > More thanks, Alar. > See also threads > http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-prox > > ies/359814-novell-proxy-memory-allocation-error.html > http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-inst > > all-setup/360651-bm-3-6-looses-access-every-24-hours-so.html > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > **************************************************************************** > ********* > This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and > privileged > information. It has been scanned for viruses. If you are not the > intended > recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, > delete > this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination, use, review, > disclosure, or distribution of this information by a person other > than the > intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. > **************************************************************************** > ********** > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From budthegrey at gmail.com Sun Mar 8 19:08:01 2009 From: budthegrey at gmail.com (Bud Durland) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 15:08:01 -0400 Subject: win xp joining domain In-Reply-To: <10742ff4b6f12c9f0cca9cc1c0919d46@ladyburd.com> References: <10742ff4b6f12c9f0cca9cc1c0919d46@ladyburd.com> Message-ID: <509526700903081208m8364f41j40a6285f314e116e@mail.gmail.com> The big thing is that users will get a new profile folder on the local machine, because Windows will see them as a different user (domain user vs. local user). Where the old folder is "C:\Documents and Settins\, the new one will be "C:\Documents and settings\. Usually, this means that things like "My Documents", Outlook folders, Address books, favorites, are not longer available / visible to the user. On the Windows Server resource Kit CD, there is a utility called "moveuser". Basically, it points the specified user to look to a different set of folders for such things. It was originally meant, I think, to be used when moving a user from one domain to another, but it can also be used to point the domain user to the local user's settings folder. IIRC, the resource kit can also be downloaded from MS's web site. Hope this helps On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Larry Burd wrote: > > little off topic.... > > is there a list of things that change within the XP operating system that changes once a pc joins a winserver domain ? > > thank you, > Larry > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > -- ---------------------------------------------------------- I'm in my own little world. But that's OK, because they all know me here. From cmangiarelli at gmail.com Mon Mar 9 15:58:23 2009 From: cmangiarelli at gmail.com (Christopher Mangiarelli) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 11:58:23 -0400 Subject: OES2SP1 Upgrade gone slightly sour - Problems with X+Yast Message-ID: I did my first OES2SP1+SLES10SP2 upgrade in my test lab and had some interesting results. Server was originally OES2+SLES10SP1. I downed the server and proceeded to run the upgrade through the various CD's. Got through all the questions and file copy, no errors. First reboot, bam - server was dead. Apparently the boot manager install changed the references to those long /dev/disk/by-id/reallylongnamewhichicantwritehere-part1. I changed those back and still no go. Then I fond out my device map was bad cause my system disk is LUN4 but on bootup the SAN bios moves it temporarily to be seen as the first device which changes things until the SAN driver takes over. Had to change the references for (HD0,0) in grub to (HD4,0) after my device map was fixed. Anyway, got the machine to finally boot but now it hangs at "Starting YAST" during the bootup process. It will stay there for hours and the server is hung. If I switch to tty7 where X normally runs and CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE, it will tell X to reset and the boot process will continue. X never comes back though. I've tried to tell the server to boot in runlevel 3 (Changed the default init level to 3 in yast) but it still tries to load X and hangs. I'd like to get X working again. The rest of the server appears to be functional, but I haven't done much validation until I can get the server completely functional again. I have this sneaking suspicion that the upgrade isn't completely done. Is yast trying to run some post upgrade process? Where should I start to look to find out why the GUI is dead? I'm attaching my \var\log\Xorg.0.log and \var\log\gdm\:0.log (renamed gdm-0.log) to this email. Zipped to save space and not flood your email boxes. Would appreciate some help as I'm beyond my troubleshooting capabilities right now. -- Christopher Mangiarelli cmangiarelli at gmail.com From alandpearson at yahoo.com Mon Mar 9 16:32:16 2009 From: alandpearson at yahoo.com (Alan Pearson) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 16:32:16 -0000 (GMT) Subject: OES2SP1 Upgrade gone slightly sour - Problems with X+Yast In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8118.88.211.54.85.1236616336.squirrel@83.67.10.8> That is scary. The one nugget of info I can probably give is the reason it is trying to start X at boot is to finish the install. As X is borked, you should try to figure out why. You should be able to start yast by just typing yast in a command prompt to give non-gui yast. I suspect the install hasn't finished and you need to figure out why, this sadly I can't help with. On Mon, March 9, 2009 3:58 pm, Christopher Mangiarelli wrote: > I did my first OES2SP1+SLES10SP2 upgrade in my test lab and had some > interesting results. Server was originally OES2+SLES10SP1. I downed the > server and proceeded to run the upgrade through the various CD's. Got > through all the questions and file copy, no errors. First reboot, bam - > server was dead. Apparently the boot manager install changed the > references > to those long /dev/disk/by-id/reallylongnamewhichicantwritehere-part1. I > changed those back and still no go. Then I fond out my device map was bad > cause my system disk is LUN4 but on bootup the SAN bios moves it > temporarily > to be seen as the first device which changes things until the SAN driver > takes over. Had to change the references for (HD0,0) in grub to (HD4,0) > after my device map was fixed. > > Anyway, got the machine to finally boot but now it hangs at "Starting > YAST" > during the bootup process. It will stay there for hours and the server is > hung. If I switch to tty7 where X normally runs and CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE, > it > will tell X to reset and the boot process will continue. X never comes > back > though. > > I've tried to tell the server to boot in runlevel 3 (Changed the default > init level to 3 in yast) but it still tries to load X and hangs. I'd like > to get X working again. The rest of the server appears to be functional, > but I haven't done much validation until I can get the server completely > functional again. I have this sneaking suspicion that the upgrade isn't > completely done. Is yast trying to run some post upgrade process? > > Where should I start to look to find out why the GUI is dead? > > I'm attaching my \var\log\Xorg.0.log and \var\log\gdm\:0.log (renamed > gdm-0.log) to this email. Zipped to save space and not flood your email > boxes. Would appreciate some help as I'm beyond my troubleshooting > capabilities right now. > > -- > Christopher Mangiarelli > cmangiarelli at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk Mon Mar 9 16:46:35 2009 From: joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk (Joe Doupnik) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:46:35 +0000 Subject: OES2SP1 Upgrade gone slightly sour - Problems with X+Yast In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49B547EB.7080908@oucs.ox.ac.uk> Christopher Mangiarelli wrote: > I did my first OES2SP1+SLES10SP2 upgrade in my test lab and had some > interesting results. Server was originally OES2+SLES10SP1. I downed the > server and proceeded to run the upgrade through the various CD's. Got > through all the questions and file copy, no errors. First reboot, bam - > server was dead. Apparently the boot manager install changed the references > to those long /dev/disk/by-id/reallylongnamewhichicantwritehere-part1. I > changed those back and still no go. Then I fond out my device map was bad > cause my system disk is LUN4 but on bootup the SAN bios moves it temporarily > to be seen as the first device which changes things until the SAN driver > takes over. Had to change the references for (HD0,0) in grub to (HD4,0) > after my device map was fixed. > > Anyway, got the machine to finally boot but now it hangs at "Starting YAST" > during the bootup process. It will stay there for hours and the server is > hung. If I switch to tty7 where X normally runs and CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE, it > will tell X to reset and the boot process will continue. X never comes back > though. > > I've tried to tell the server to boot in runlevel 3 (Changed the default > init level to 3 in yast) but it still tries to load X and hangs. I'd like > to get X working again. The rest of the server appears to be functional, > but I haven't done much validation until I can get the server completely > functional again. I have this sneaking suspicion that the upgrade isn't > completely done. Is yast trying to run some post upgrade process? > > Where should I start to look to find out why the GUI is dead? > > I'm attaching my \var\log\Xorg.0.log and \var\log\gdm\:0.log (renamed > gdm-0.log) to this email. Zipped to save space and not flood your email > boxes. Would appreciate some help as I'm beyond my troubleshooting > capabilities right now. ------------- GRUB likes to do this shuffle. The BIOS presents one ordering at boot time, GRUB often creates another order during installtion and updates. I have tried to avoid the cute drive-id stuff and use /dev/sdaN where possible and futher to use a LABEL on each partition so I know what it is supposed to be. We can mount by LABEL rather than by /dev/whatever. LABEL is settable in partitioner, amongst other places, in the fstab options area. X11 problems. To avoid the GUI at startup use runlevel 3 and modify /boot/grub/menu.lst to use phrase vga=normal (or even vga=ask if you wish to change things interactively at boot time). "normal" means 80x25 text mode, no frame buffer, no probing the video adapter for nuances. GRUB is rather poor about this section as well. Stubborn video can often be coecered into action by running text mode script xorgconfig and answering questions manually. But first try to use VESA mode: sax2 -r -m 0=vesa (reset, make top (0) menu choice be vesa). Really bad cases, which still happen here, require me to visit /etc/X11 and try the backup copies of xorg.conf until one is found which works. A few trips into single user mode may be required to get all this right. A surmise is your video adapter is not what X11 thinks it is, detailed commands sent to it cause blackouts and much frustration. Happens here, the deeper cause is usually the wrong X11 binary engine and I resort to the above. The o/s update process does proceed in the usual two phases, and you were caught in between. SLES is rather good about picking up where it left off even after repeated reboots like you did. Joe D. From cmangiarelli at gmail.com Mon Mar 9 19:22:32 2009 From: cmangiarelli at gmail.com (Christopher Mangiarelli) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 15:22:32 -0400 Subject: OES2SP1 Upgrade gone slightly sour - Problems with X+Yast In-Reply-To: <49B547EB.7080908@oucs.ox.ac.uk> References: <49B547EB.7080908@oucs.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: Awesome, reseting X using the sax2 command worked and I'm in the process of running the second phase now. Wish me luck... On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Joe Doupnik wrote: > X11 problems. To avoid the GUI at startup use runlevel 3 and modify > /boot/grub/menu.lst to use phrase vga=normal (or even vga=ask if > you > wish to change things interactively at boot time). "normal" means 80x25 > text mode, > no frame buffer, no probing the video adapter for nuances. GRUB is rather > poor > about this section as well. > Stubborn video can often be coecered into action by running text > mode > script xorgconfig and answering questions manually. But first try to use > VESA > mode: sax2 -r -m 0=vesa (reset, make top (0) menu choice be vesa). > Really bad > cases, which still happen here, require me to visit /etc/X11 and try the > backup > copies of xorg.conf until one is found which works. A few trips into single > user > mode may be required to get all this right. > A surmise is your video adapter is not what X11 thinks it is, > detailed > commands sent to it cause blackouts and much frustration. Happens here, the > deeper > cause is usually the wrong X11 binary engine and I resort to the above. > The o/s update process does proceed in the usual two phases, and you > were caught in between. SLES is rather good about picking up where it left > off > even after repeated reboots like you did. > Joe D. > -- Christopher Mangiarelli cmangiarelli at gmail.com From cmangiarelli at gmail.com Mon Mar 9 20:46:33 2009 From: cmangiarelli at gmail.com (Christopher Mangiarelli) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 16:46:33 -0400 Subject: OES2SP1 Upgrade gone slightly sour - Problems with X+Yast In-Reply-To: References: <49B547EB.7080908@oucs.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: I'm close. The install completed but LUM is not working. When I try to configure it, it tells me the LDAP server is not responding or my username doesn't have the rights it needs. I verified with the java LDAP browser that the ldap server is available and I have S rights to the [Root] or my tree so I am at a loss to see what's going on here... On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Christopher Mangiarelli < cmangiarelli at gmail.com> wrote: > Awesome, reseting X using the sax2 command worked and I'm in the process of > running the second phase now. Wish me luck... -- Christopher Mangiarelli cmangiarelli at gmail.com From alandpearson at yahoo.com Mon Mar 9 21:00:13 2009 From: alandpearson at yahoo.com (Alan Pearson) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 21:00:13 +0000 Subject: OES2SP1 Upgrade gone slightly sour - Problems with X+Yast In-Reply-To: References: <49B547EB.7080908@oucs.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: <59AE0EEB-1BCA-4145-9DB7-9E9D79B2FC95@yahoo.com> Check to see if owcimomd is running properly /etc/init.d/owcimomd status --- AlanP On 9 Mar 2009, at 20:46, Christopher Mangiarelli wrote: > I'm close. The install completed but LUM is not working. > > When I try to configure it, it tells me the LDAP server is not > responding or > my username doesn't have the rights it needs. I verified with the > java LDAP > browser that the ldap server is available and I have S rights to the > [Root] > or my tree so I am at a loss to see what's going on here... > > On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Christopher Mangiarelli < > cmangiarelli at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Awesome, reseting X using the sax2 command worked and I'm in the >> process of >> running the second phase now. Wish me luck... > > -- > Christopher Mangiarelli > cmangiarelli at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From cmangiarelli at gmail.com Mon Mar 9 21:12:17 2009 From: cmangiarelli at gmail.com (Christopher Mangiarelli) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 17:12:17 -0400 Subject: OES2SP1 Upgrade gone slightly sour - Problems with X+Yast In-Reply-To: <59AE0EEB-1BCA-4145-9DB7-9E9D79B2FC95@yahoo.com> References: <49B547EB.7080908@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <59AE0EEB-1BCA-4145-9DB7-9E9D79B2FC95@yahoo.com> Message-ID: I figured it out, an old /etc/nam.conf file was in place that didn't jive with the new settings and the GUI OES Install and Config is not intelligent enough to bypass it. Swapping to the namconfig command in a terminal window pointed out the error which I was able to clear up. Tested LUM through the NRM and it's working which I think means owcimomd is working too. I'm having patching issues now though, but gonna give it my best first before bothering people again. On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Alan Pearson wrote: > Check to see if owcimomd is running properly > > /etc/init.d/owcimomd status > --- > AlanP -- Christopher Mangiarelli cmangiarelli at gmail.com From joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk Tue Mar 10 09:29:45 2009 From: joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk (Joe Doupnik) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:29:45 +0000 Subject: OES2SP1 Upgrade gone slightly sour - Problems with X+Yast In-Reply-To: References: <49B547EB.7080908@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <59AE0EEB-1BCA-4145-9DB7-9E9D79B2FC95@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49B63309.9020106@oucs.ox.ac.uk> Christopher Mangiarelli wrote: > I figured it out, an old /etc/nam.conf file was in place that didn't jive > with the new settings and the GUI OES Install and Config is not intelligent > enough to bypass it. Swapping to the namconfig command in a terminal window > pointed out the error which I was able to clear up. > > Tested LUM through the NRM and it's working which I think means owcimomd is > working too. > > I'm having patching issues now though, but gonna give it my best first > before bothering people again. > > On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Alan Pearson wrote: > >> Check to see if owcimomd is running properly >> >> /etc/init.d/owcimomd status >> --- >> AlanP > --------------- Nam wants to be its own source of intelligence, not be a mere copy-cat of things, because it will save its cache to a disk file across reboots. To cause it to quickly relearn things from NDS use command namconfig cache_refresh See /etc/nam.conf for configuration details; it is short. However, that file needs no adjustment because of an in-place upgrade. Thus you likely did something else to result in a new source of LDAP information. See also namconfig -k to refresh its certificate info. Joe D. From Setienne at enesco.com Tue Mar 10 20:02:52 2009 From: Setienne at enesco.com (Scott Etienne) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:02:52 -0500 Subject: Schedule Restart Server? In-Reply-To: <49B63309.9020106@oucs.ox.ac.uk> References: <49B547EB.7080908@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <59AE0EEB-1BCA-4145-9DB7-9E9D79B2FC95@yahoo.com> <49B63309.9020106@oucs.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: <49B6811B.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> I tried testing Toolbox to shutdown and restart a NW65SP8 server, and it didn't work. Nothing happened. I did find that I could use toolbox to restart it from a NW51 server with problems though (very weird) the server would not shut down, and eventually I had to power-cycle it to get it to down. What is the best method for scheduling a restart for NW65SP8 especially where there are open files? Thank you, Scott Etienne Network Engineer Enesco, LLC setienne at enesco.com From Robrinsky at roillc.com Tue Mar 10 20:51:26 2009 From: Robrinsky at roillc.com (Robert Obrinsky) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:51:26 -0700 Subject: Schedule Restart Server? In-Reply-To: <49B6811B.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> References: <49B547EB.7080908@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <59AE0EEB-1BCA-4145-9DB7-9E9D79B2FC95@yahoo.com> <49B63309.9020106@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <49B6811B.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> Message-ID: <49B6705E0200006D0002DA36@roi-03.roillc.com> Scott, I would use the "Schedule Tasks" in NoRM to do a 'reset server'. I must admit that I don't remember if it would get hung at a prompt about open files. Robert W. Obrinsky President Robert Obrinsky Industries, LLC 1908 SE 45th Avenue Portland, OR 97215 503.719.4387 (Office) 203.273.7012 (Mobile) >>> "Scott Etienne" 3/10/2009 1:02 PM >>> I tried testing Toolbox to shutdown and restart a NW65SP8 server, and it didn't work. Nothing happened. I did find that I could use toolbox to restart it from a NW51 server with problems though (very weird) the server would not shut down, and eventually I had to power-cycle it to get it to down. What is the best method for scheduling a restart for NW65SP8 especially where there are open files? Thank you, Scott Etienne Network Engineer Enesco, LLC setienne at enesco.com _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From fine.jeff at gmail.com Tue Mar 10 21:03:54 2009 From: fine.jeff at gmail.com (Jeff Fine) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:03:54 -0400 Subject: Schedule Restart Server? In-Reply-To: <49B6705E0200006D0002DA36@roi-03.roillc.com> References: <49B547EB.7080908@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <59AE0EEB-1BCA-4145-9DB7-9E9D79B2FC95@yahoo.com> <49B63309.9020106@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <49B6811B.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> <49B6705E0200006D0002DA36@roi-03.roillc.com> Message-ID: <1b548e200903101403r60e8e1b2s3eb504f023c7b113@mail.gmail.com> I do that every week (we had issues in the past where if I left the server running for more than a week it would slowly choke and network connectivity would die and I'm wary of stopping the practice now). This is the line I have in the Scheduled Task in NoRM. "restart server -f" Never have any issues, the POA and MTA close up on their own. jf On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Robert Obrinsky wrote: > Scott, > > I would use the "Schedule Tasks" in NoRM to do a 'reset server'. I must admit that I don't remember if it would get hung at a prompt about open files. > > Robert W. Obrinsky > President > Robert Obrinsky Industries, LLC > 1908 SE 45th Avenue > Portland, OR 97215 > 503.719.4387 (Office) > 203.273.7012 (Mobile) > > >>>> "Scott Etienne" 3/10/2009 1:02 PM >>> > I tried testing Toolbox to shutdown and restart a NW65SP8 server, and it didn't work. Nothing happened. I did find that I could use toolbox to restart it from a NW51 server with problems though (very weird) the server would not shut down, and eventually I had to power-cycle it to get it to down. > > What is the best method for scheduling a restart for NW65SP8 especially where there are open files? > > > Thank you, > > Scott Etienne > Network Engineer > Enesco, LLC > setienne at enesco.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > From Setienne at enesco.com Tue Mar 10 21:32:02 2009 From: Setienne at enesco.com (Scott Etienne) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 16:32:02 -0500 Subject: Schedule Restart Server? In-Reply-To: <1b548e200903101403r60e8e1b2s3eb504f023c7b113@mail.gmail.com> References: <49B547EB.7080908@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <59AE0EEB-1BCA-4145-9DB7-9E9D79B2FC95@yahoo.com> <49B63309.9020106@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <49B6811B.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> <49B6705E0200006D0002DA36@roi-03.roillc.com> <1b548e200903101403r60e8e1b2s3eb504f023c7b113@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49B69601.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> That tests out! Thanks JF! >>> On 3/10/2009 at 4:03 PM, in message <1b548e200903101403r60e8e1b2s3eb504f023c7b113 at mail.gmail.com>, Jeff Fine wrote: I do that every week (we had issues in the past where if I left the server running for more than a week it would slowly choke and network connectivity would die and I'm wary of stopping the practice now). This is the line I have in the Scheduled Task in NoRM. "restart server -f" Never have any issues, the POA and MTA close up on their own. jf On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Robert Obrinsky wrote: > Scott, > > I would use the "Schedule Tasks" in NoRM to do a 'reset server'. I must admit that I don't remember if it would get hung at a prompt about open files. > > Robert W. Obrinsky > President > Robert Obrinsky Industries, LLC > 1908 SE 45th Avenue > Portland, OR 97215 > 503.719.4387 (Office) > 203.273.7012 (Mobile) > > >>>> "Scott Etienne" 3/10/2009 1:02 PM >>> > I tried testing Toolbox to shutdown and restart a NW65SP8 server, and it didn't work. Nothing happened. I did find that I could use toolbox to restart it from a NW51 server with problems though (very weird) the server would not shut down, and eventually I had to power-cycle it to get it to down. > > What is the best method for scheduling a restart for NW65SP8 especially where there are open files? > > > Thank you, > > Scott Etienne > Network Engineer > Enesco, LLC > setienne at enesco.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From Setienne at enesco.com Tue Mar 10 21:34:07 2009 From: Setienne at enesco.com (Scott Etienne) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 16:34:07 -0500 Subject: Mailbox message mass deletion? In-Reply-To: <1b548e200903101403r60e8e1b2s3eb504f023c7b113@mail.gmail.com> References: <49B547EB.7080908@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <59AE0EEB-1BCA-4145-9DB7-9E9D79B2FC95@yahoo.com> <49B63309.9020106@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <49B6811B.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> <49B6705E0200006D0002DA36@roi-03.roillc.com> <1b548e200903101403r60e8e1b2s3eb504f023c7b113@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49B6967E.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> I have a user that got caught in a loop, and has over 200,000 emails I am trying to delete using rules, but it is slow going. I can only run the rule against about 5,000 messages at a time. We want to delete anything from "mailer daemon". Is there a way to run a GWCheck to get rid of these? Suggestions? From Setienne at enesco.com Tue Mar 10 21:35:59 2009 From: Setienne at enesco.com (Scott Etienne) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 16:35:59 -0500 Subject: Mailbox message mass deletion? In-Reply-To: <49B6967E.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> References: <49B547EB.7080908@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <59AE0EEB-1BCA-4145-9DB7-9E9D79B2FC95@yahoo.com> <49B63309.9020106@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <49B6811B.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> <49B6705E0200006D0002DA36@roi-03.roillc.com> <1b548e200903101403r60e8e1b2s3eb504f023c7b113@mail.gmail.com> <49B6967E.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> Message-ID: <49B696EE.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> Sorry--wrong list! :) >>> On 3/10/2009 at 4:34 PM, in message <49B6967E.8A77.004D.0 at enesco.com>, "Scott Etienne" wrote: I have a user that got caught in a loop, and has over 200,000 emails I am trying to delete using rules, but it is slow going. I can only run the rule against about 5,000 messages at a time. We want to delete anything from "mailer daemon". Is there a way to run a GWCheck to get rid of these? Suggestions? _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From Hatchellb at vvc.edu Tue Mar 10 20:37:18 2009 From: Hatchellb at vvc.edu (Brian Hatchell) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:37:18 -0700 Subject: Mailbox message mass deletion? In-Reply-To: <49B696EE.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> References: <49B547EB.7080908@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <59AE0EEB-1BCA-4145-9DB7-9E9D79B2FC95@yahoo.com> <49B63309.9020106@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <49B6811B.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> <49B6705E0200006D0002DA36@roi-03.roillc.com> <1b548e200903101403r60e8e1b2s3eb504f023c7b113@mail.gmail.com> <49B6967E.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> <49B696EE.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> Message-ID: <49B66D0E0200002400035575@lola.vvc.edu> No! I am interested! Brian Hatchell Network Manager Victor Valley College 760 245-4271 x2792 *Always do more than is required of you.* - General George S. Patton Check my Blog at http://gwcal.vvc.edu/mplusextranet/scp.dll/blog?user=hatchellb >>> On 3/10/2009 at 2:35 PM, in message <49B696EE.8A77.004D.0 at enesco.com>, "Scott Etienne" wrote: Sorry--wrong list! :) >>> On 3/10/2009 at 4:34 PM, in message <49B6967E.8A77.004D.0 at enesco.com>, "Scott Etienne" wrote: I have a user that got caught in a loop, and has over 200,000 emails I am trying to delete using rules, but it is slow going. I can only run the rule against about 5,000 messages at a time. We want to delete anything from "mailer daemon". Is there a way to run a GWCheck to get rid of these? Suggestions? _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Tue Mar 10 23:01:21 2009 From: James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com (James Taylor) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:01:21 -0400 Subject: Mailbox message mass deletion? In-Reply-To: <49B66D0E0200002400035575@lola.vvc.edu> References: <49B547EB.7080908@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <59AE0EEB-1BCA-4145-9DB7-9E9D79B2FC95@yahoo.com> <49B63309.9020106@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <49B6811B.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> <49B6705E0200006D0002DA36@roi-03.roillc.com> <1b548e200903101403r60e8e1b2s3eb504f023c7b113@mail.gmail.com> <49B6967E.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> <49B696EE.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> <49B66D0E0200002400035575@lola.vvc.edu> Message-ID: <49B6B9010200007500047C66@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> Here's the answer from the NGWLIST James Taylor The East Cobb Group, Inc. 678-697-9420 james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com http://www.eastcobbgroup.com >>> On 3/10/2009 at 4:36 PM, in message <49B69719.8A77.004D.0 at enesco.com>, "Scott Etienne" wrote: > I have a user that got caught in a loop, and has over 200,000 emails I am > trying to delete using rules, but it is slow going. I can only run the rule > against about 5,000 messages at a time. We want to delete anything from > "mailer daemon". > > Is there a way to run a GWCheck to get rid of these? > > Suggestions? gwcheck option SUBJECTPURGE There's a few TIDS about it. -jt >>> "Brian Hatchell" 3/10/2009 04:37 PM >>> No! I am interested! Brian Hatchell Network Manager Victor Valley College 760 245-4271 x2792 *Always do more than is required of you.* - General George S. Patton Check my Blog at http://gwcal.vvc.edu/mplusextranet/scp.dll/blog?user=hatchellb >>> On 3/10/2009 at 2:35 PM, in message <49B696EE.8A77.004D.0 at enesco.com>, "Scott Etienne" wrote: Sorry--wrong list! :) >>> On 3/10/2009 at 4:34 PM, in message <49B6967E.8A77.004D.0 at enesco.com>, "Scott Etienne" wrote: I have a user that got caught in a loop, and has over 200,000 emails I am trying to delete using rules, but it is slow going. I can only run the rule against about 5,000 messages at a time. We want to delete anything from "mailer daemon". Is there a way to run a GWCheck to get rid of these? Suggestions? _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From Neil.Jensen at wcdsb.ca Wed Mar 11 13:57:17 2009 From: Neil.Jensen at wcdsb.ca (Neil Jensen) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 09:57:17 -0400 Subject: Schedule Restart Server? In-Reply-To: <49B69601.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> References: <49B547EB.7080908@oucs.ox.ac.uk><59AE0EEB-1BCA-4145-9DB7-9E9D79B2FC95@yahoo.com><49B63309.9020106@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <49B6811B.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com><49B6705E0200006D0002DA36@roi-03.roillc.com><1b548e200903101403r60e8e1b2s3eb504f023c7b113@mail.gmail.com> <49B69601.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> Message-ID: Except wouldn't the proper fix be to find out what causes the problem and fix that? We have a similar problem with servers running Tivoli back-up that sporadically run out of cache buffers and then die, but its not consistent across the board. (Hope to get resolved soon, thanks to a suggestion from Joe D.). However, the majority of our other servers have run for long stretches - up to a year - they may go longer but by then its time to re-patch. Neil Neil Jensen IT Services Waterloo Catholic District School Board -----Original Message----- From: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Scott Etienne Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 5:32 PM To: Novell LAN Interest Group Subject: Re: Schedule Restart Server? That tests out! Thanks JF! >>> On 3/10/2009 at 4:03 PM, in message <1b548e200903101403r60e8e1b2s3eb504f023c7b113 at mail.gmail.com>, Jeff Fine wrote: I do that every week (we had issues in the past where if I left the server running for more than a week it would slowly choke and network connectivity would die and I'm wary of stopping the practice now). This is the line I have in the Scheduled Task in NoRM. "restart server -f" Never have any issues, the POA and MTA close up on their own. jf On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Robert Obrinsky wrote: > Scott, > > I would use the "Schedule Tasks" in NoRM to do a 'reset server'. I must admit that I don't remember if it would get hung at a prompt about open files. > > Robert W. Obrinsky > President > Robert Obrinsky Industries, LLC > 1908 SE 45th Avenue > Portland, OR 97215 > 503.719.4387 (Office) > 203.273.7012 (Mobile) > > >>>> "Scott Etienne" 3/10/2009 1:02 PM >>> > I tried testing Toolbox to shutdown and restart a NW65SP8 server, and it didn't work. Nothing happened. I did find that I could use toolbox to restart it from a NW51 server with problems though (very weird) the server would not shut down, and eventually I had to power-cycle it to get it to down. > > What is the best method for scheduling a restart for NW65SP8 especially where there are open files? > > > Thank you, > > Scott Etienne > Network Engineer > Enesco, LLC > setienne at enesco.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell -------------------------------------------------------------------- Disclaimer - This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and contain privileged or copyright information. You must not present this message to another party without gaining permission from the sender. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy, distribute or use this email or the information contained in it for any purpose other than to notify us. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately, and delete this email from your system. We do not guarantee that this material is free from viruses or any other defects although due care has been taken to minimize the risk. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of the Waterloo Catholic District School Board. From fine.jeff at gmail.com Wed Mar 11 16:05:08 2009 From: fine.jeff at gmail.com (Jeff Fine) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:05:08 -0400 Subject: Schedule Restart Server? In-Reply-To: References: <59AE0EEB-1BCA-4145-9DB7-9E9D79B2FC95@yahoo.com> <49B63309.9020106@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <49B6811B.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> <49B6705E0200006D0002DA36@roi-03.roillc.com> <1b548e200903101403r60e8e1b2s3eb504f023c7b113@mail.gmail.com> <49B69601.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> Message-ID: <1b548e200903110905w7a888fc3i73b8ecbb5ea83e14@mail.gmail.com> Very true, but experimenting with what will keep the server from dying and running the risk of downtime during the day isn't as appealing an option as the quick fix of rebooting weekly. :) All of my other netware servers have run indefinitely since being setup (except for those nss memory errors with 6.5 sp5 or 6) with the exception of the main GroupWise servers. jf On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Neil Jensen wrote: > Except wouldn't the proper fix be to find out what causes the problem > and fix that? We have a similar problem with servers running Tivoli > ?back-up that sporadically run out of cache buffers and then die, but > ?its not consistent across the board. (Hope to get resolved soon, > thanks to a suggestion from Joe D.). However, the majority of our other > servers have run for long stretches - up to a year - they may go longer > ?but by then its time to re-patch. > > Neil > > Neil Jensen > IT Services > Waterloo Catholic District School Board > > > -----Original Message----- > From: novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > [mailto:novell-bounces at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Scott Etienne > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 5:32 PM > To: Novell LAN Interest Group > Subject: Re: Schedule Restart Server? > > That tests out! > > Thanks JF! > >>>> On 3/10/2009 at 4:03 PM, in message > <1b548e200903101403r60e8e1b2s3eb504f023c7b113 at mail.gmail.com>, Jeff Fine > wrote: > I do that every week (we had issues in the past where if I left the > server running for more than a week it would slowly choke and network > connectivity would die and I'm wary of stopping the practice now). > > This is the line I have in the Scheduled Task in NoRM. > > "restart server -f" > > Never have any issues, the POA and MTA close up on their own. > > jf > > > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Robert Obrinsky > wrote: >> Scott, >> >> I would use the "Schedule Tasks" in NoRM to do a 'reset server'. I > must admit that I don't remember if it would get hung at a prompt about > open files. >> >> Robert W. Obrinsky >> President >> Robert Obrinsky Industries, LLC >> 1908 SE 45th Avenue >> Portland, OR 97215 >> 503.719.4387 (Office) >> 203.273.7012 (Mobile) >> >> >>>>> "Scott Etienne" 3/10/2009 1:02 PM >>> >> I tried testing Toolbox to shutdown and restart a NW65SP8 server, and > it didn't work. Nothing happened. I did find that I could use toolbox to > restart it from a NW51 server with problems though (very weird) the > server would not shut down, and eventually I had to power-cycle it to > get it to down. >> >> What is the best method for scheduling a restart for NW65SP8 > especially where there are open files? >> >> >> Thank you, >> >> Scott Etienne >> Network Engineer >> Enesco, LLC >> setienne at enesco.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Novell mailing list >> Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk >> http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >> _______________________________________________ >> Novell mailing list >> Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk >> http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >> > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Disclaimer - This email and any files transmitted with it are > confidential and contain privileged or copyright information. 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We do not guarantee > that this material is free from viruses or any other defects although > due care has been taken to minimize the risk. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, > except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of the > Waterloo Catholic District School Board. > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > From glenn.collrin at marwoodmail.com Wed Mar 11 16:11:35 2009 From: glenn.collrin at marwoodmail.com (Glenn Collrin) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 13:11:35 -0300 Subject: Licenses for 5.1 sp8 In-Reply-To: <1b548e200903110905w7a888fc3i73b8ecbb5ea83e14@mail.gmail.com> References: <59AE0EEB-1BCA-4145-9DB7-9E9D79B2FC95@yahoo.com><49B63309.9020106@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <49B6811B.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com><49B6705E0200006D0002DA36@roi-03.roillc.com><1b548e200903101403r60e8e1b2s3eb504f023c7b113@mail.gmail.com><49B69601.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> <1b548e200903110905w7a888fc3i73b8ecbb5ea83e14@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: ANYONE WILLING TO SELL OR KNOW WHERE I CAN PURCHASE ADDITIONAL novell 5.1 sp8 connection licenses./ We are at 90 licenses and wish to add more Glenn C From rpcarroll at wallgames.com Wed Mar 11 16:33:21 2009 From: rpcarroll at wallgames.com (Robert Carroll) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:33:21 -0400 Subject: Licenses for 5.1 sp8 References: <59AE0EEB-1BCA-4145-9DB7-9E9D79B2FC95@yahoo.com><49B63309.9020106@oucs.ox.ac.uk><49B6811B.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com><49B6705E0200006D0002DA36@roi-03.roillc.com><1b548e200903101403r60e8e1b2s3eb504f023c7b113@mail.gmail.com><49B69601.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com><1b548e200903110905w7a888fc3i73b8ecbb5ea83e14@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2A9F4C9BBA4E4C53B45393E852969738@y6i6u5udu1mk8xk> There are two auctions on eBay right now - expiring in 4 hours, one offering a new 50-user license, one offering a new 100-user license. -Bob Carroll ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Collrin" To: "Novell LAN Interest Group" Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 12:11 PM Subject: Licenses for 5.1 sp8 > ANYONE WILLING TO SELL OR KNOW WHERE I CAN PURCHASE ADDITIONAL novell > 5.1 sp8 connection licenses./ > > We are at 90 licenses and wish to add more > > Glenn C > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From Michael_Klein at mindspring.com Wed Mar 11 16:55:48 2009 From: Michael_Klein at mindspring.com (Michael Klein) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:55:48 +0000 Subject: Licenses for 5.1 sp8 In-Reply-To: References: <59AE0EEB-1BCA-4145-9DB7-9E9D79B2FC95@yahoo.com><49B63309.9020106@oucs.ox.ac.uk><49B6811B.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com><49B6705E0200006D0002DA36@roi-03.roillc.com><1b548e200903101403r60e8e1b2s3eb504f023c7b113@mail.gmail.com><49B69601.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com><1b548e200903110905w7a888fc3i73b8ecbb5ea83e14@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1314107232-1236790568-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-348965687-@bxe1153.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> I might have a 250 user license available. I just got to look for it... Mike -----Original Message----- From: "Glenn Collrin" Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 13:11:35 To: Novell LAN Interest Group Subject: Licenses for 5.1 sp8 ANYONE WILLING TO SELL OR KNOW WHERE I CAN PURCHASE ADDITIONAL novell 5.1 sp8 connection licenses./ We are at 90 licenses and wish to add more Glenn C _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From rivars at mctweb.net Wed Mar 11 17:47:21 2009 From: rivars at mctweb.net (Rick Ivars) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:47:21 -0500 Subject: Licenses for 5.1 sp8 In-Reply-To: <2A9F4C9BBA4E4C53B45393E852969738@y6i6u5udu1mk8xk> References: <59AE0EEB-1BCA-4145-9DB7-9E9D79B2FC95@yahoo.com><49B63309.9020106@oucs.ox.ac.uk><49B6811B.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com><49B6705E0200006D0002DA36@roi-03.roillc.com><1b548e200903101403r60e8e1b2s3eb504f023c7b113@mail.gmail.com><49B69601.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com><1b548e200903110905w7a888fc3i73b8ecbb5ea83e14@mail.gmail.com> <2A9F4C9BBA4E4C53B45393E852969738@y6i6u5udu1mk8xk> Message-ID: <49B7B2D9020000370001756F@mct2.mctweb.net> didn't know there were "new" NetWare 5.1 licenses anywhere. Are these also unused....hehehehe Rick Ivars Senior Network Engineer Master CNE, MCP, GCE, RCE, Project+ Datamax/Micro rivars at mctweb.net http://www.mctweb.net 501-603-3000 >>> "Robert Carroll" 3/11/2009 11:33 AM >>> There are two auctions on eBay right now - expiring in 4 hours, one offering a new 50-user license, one offering a new 100-user license. -Bob Carroll ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Collrin" To: "Novell LAN Interest Group" Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 12:11 PM Subject: Licenses for 5.1 sp8 > ANYONE WILLING TO SELL OR KNOW WHERE I CAN PURCHASE ADDITIONAL novell > 5.1 sp8 connection licenses./ > > We are at 90 licenses and wish to add more > > Glenn C > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell A* Important: Datamax/Micro considers the information contained in this message ("Confidential Information"). 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From Robrinsky at roillc.com Wed Mar 11 18:18:57 2009 From: Robrinsky at roillc.com (Robert Obrinsky) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 11:18:57 -0700 Subject: Licenses for 5.1 sp8 In-Reply-To: <49B7B2D9020000370001756F@mct2.mctweb.net> References: <59AE0EEB-1BCA-4145-9DB7-9E9D79B2FC95@yahoo.com><49B63309.9020106@oucs.ox.ac.uk><49B6811B.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com><49B6705E0200006D0002DA36@roi-03.roillc.com><1b548e200903101403r60e8e1b2s3eb504f023c7b113@mail.gmail.com><49B69601.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com><1b548e200903110905w7a888fc3i73b8ecbb5ea83e14@mail.gmail.com> <2A9F4C9BBA4E4C53B45393E852969738@y6i6u5udu1mk8xk> <49B7B2D9020000370001756F@mct2.mctweb.net> Message-ID: <49B79E210200006D0002DC3D@roi-03.roillc.com> I think you can order OES licenses from Novell and have them 'downgraded' to 5.1 licenses. Robert W. Obrinsky President Robert Obrinsky Industries, LLC 1908 SE 45th Avenue Portland, OR 97215 503.719.4387 (Office) 203.273.7012 (Mobile) >>> "Rick Ivars" 3/11/2009 10:47 AM >>> didn't know there were "new" NetWare 5.1 licenses anywhere. Are these also unused....hehehehe Rick Ivars Senior Network Engineer Master CNE, MCP, GCE, RCE, Project+ Datamax/Micro rivars at mctweb.net http://www.mctweb.net 501-603-3000 >>> "Robert Carroll" 3/11/2009 11:33 AM >>> There are two auctions on eBay right now - expiring in 4 hours, one offering a new 50-user license, one offering a new 100-user license. -Bob Carroll ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Collrin" To: "Novell LAN Interest Group" Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 12:11 PM Subject: Licenses for 5.1 sp8 > ANYONE WILLING TO SELL OR KNOW WHERE I CAN PURCHASE ADDITIONAL novell > 5.1 sp8 connection licenses./ > > We are at 90 licenses and wish to add more > > Glenn C > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell A* Important: Datamax/Micro considers the information contained in this message ("Confidential Information"). Unless Datamax-Micro has given prior written authorization, do not forward, copy, or otherwise replicate or disseminate verbally, electronically, or in hardcopy any Confidential Information, except to those individuals within your organization who have a legitimate business need to know, and who have agreed in writing, to keep it confidential. From joea at j4computers.com Wed Mar 11 18:29:10 2009 From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 14:29:10 -0400 Subject: Licenses for 5.1 sp8 Message-ID: <49B7B7E9020000850005F73A@FS-LIN-OES> "New Old Stock" as they say in Car and Motorcycle parts worlds. joe a. >>> "Rick Ivars" 03/11/09 12:32 PM >>> didn't know there were "new" NetWare 5.1 licenses anywhere. Are these also unused....hehehehe Rick Ivars Senior Network Engineer Master CNE, MCP, GCE, RCE, Project+ Datamax/Micro rivars at mctweb.net http://www.mctweb.net 501-603-3000 >>> "Robert Carroll" 3/11/2009 11:33 AM >>> There are two auctions on eBay right now - expiring in 4 hours, one offering a new 50-user license, one offering a new 100-user license. -Bob Carroll ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Collrin" To: "Novell LAN Interest Group" Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 12:11 PM Subject: Licenses for 5.1 sp8 > ANYONE WILLING TO SELL OR KNOW WHERE I CAN PURCHASE ADDITIONAL novell > 5.1 sp8 connection licenses./ > > We are at 90 licenses and wish to add more > > Glenn C > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell A* Important: Datamax/Micro considers the information contained in this message ("Confidential Information"). Unless Datamax-Micro has given prior written authorization, do not forward, copy, or otherwise replicate or disseminate verbally, electronically, or in hardcopy any Confidential Information, except to those individuals within your organization who have a legitimate business need to know, and who have agreed in writing, to keep it confidential. From Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee Wed Mar 11 18:54:03 2009 From: Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee (Alar Pandis) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:54:03 +0200 Subject: After upgrade OES2 to SP1 on SLES 10 iFolder sysconf page empty Message-ID: <00dd01c9a27a$bf5d1c70$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> Hi and thanks! What file to execute You mean? No such a file there! More thanks, Alar. >>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Mon Jan 26 13:57:21 GMT 2009 <<< You can bypass the yast config for ifolder3 by doing a command line configuration Open a console window at the server and su to root. cd /opt/novell/ifolder3/bin and run ./simias-server-config enter all of the the information relevant to your system as it prompts. Many of the entries will have defaults that are preset to values you want to use. Just select Y when you see those. Otherwise, type in the correct info. One annoying quirk of the installation is that you can't backspace for the entries. If you make a mistake, ctrl-c and rerun, it only takes a few minutes to set up. -jt James Taylor The East Cobb Group, Inc. 678-697-9420 james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com http://www.eastcobbgroup.com >>> "Alar Pandis" 1/26/2009 06:45 AM >>> Hi! Finally I managed upgrade OES2 to OES2 SP1 (and SLES 10 SP1 to SP2), but ... during iFolder upgrade appear error "unable to upgrade Novell iFolder 3" or something (I didn't write it down). But, seems to me everything works fine (couple of hours for now at least). But ... when I try to reconfigure iFolder (just a try!) it appears that third page in YaST "Novell iFolder System Configuration Options" is empty! Nothing there but back, abort and next! Last one can't be chosen as error "A valid Server Name must be entered" appear, but I can't enter it, no field for that. In "Use Following Configuration" screen after enabling iFolder reconf appear that "Novell iFolder requires additional conf info". I can't see anything important is missing in this conf list under iFolder, but - as I described - I can't change also nothing. Weird. Good to have it work as ... may be is good idea to use SSL connection instead regular (client 3.7 support it) and this option is in this list I can't change. Any ideas? I wrote this in Novell iFolder forum, but nothing yet. More thanks, Alar from Estonia. From James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Mar 11 19:52:56 2009 From: James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com (James Taylor) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:52:56 -0400 Subject: After upgrade OES2 to SP1 on SLES 10 iFolder sysconf page empty In-Reply-To: <00dd01c9a27a$bf5d1c70$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> References: <00dd01c9a27a$bf5d1c70$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> Message-ID: <49B7DE590200007500047E52@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> Is the /opt/novell/ifolder3/bin folder there? If not, or if the sms-server-config file is not there, then you didn't get a good install of ifolder. -jt James Taylor The East Cobb Group, Inc. 678-697-9420 james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com http://www.eastcobbgroup.com >>> "Alar Pandis" 3/11/2009 02:54 PM >>> Hi and thanks! What file to execute You mean? No such a file there! More thanks, Alar. >>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Mon Jan 26 13:57:21 GMT 2009 <<< You can bypass the yast config for ifolder3 by doing a command line configuration Open a console window at the server and su to root. cd /opt/novell/ifolder3/bin and run ./simias-server-config enter all of the the information relevant to your system as it prompts. Many of the entries will have defaults that are preset to values you want to use. Just select Y when you see those. Otherwise, type in the correct info. One annoying quirk of the installation is that you can't backspace for the entries. If you make a mistake, ctrl-c and rerun, it only takes a few minutes to set up. -jt James Taylor The East Cobb Group, Inc. 678-697-9420 james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com http://www.eastcobbgroup.com >>> "Alar Pandis" 1/26/2009 06:45 AM >>> Hi! Finally I managed upgrade OES2 to OES2 SP1 (and SLES 10 SP1 to SP2), but ... during iFolder upgrade appear error "unable to upgrade Novell iFolder 3" or something (I didn't write it down). But, seems to me everything works fine (couple of hours for now at least). But ... when I try to reconfigure iFolder (just a try!) it appears that third page in YaST "Novell iFolder System Configuration Options" is empty! Nothing there but back, abort and next! Last one can't be chosen as error "A valid Server Name must be entered" appear, but I can't enter it, no field for that. In "Use Following Configuration" screen after enabling iFolder reconf appear that "Novell iFolder requires additional conf info". I can't see anything important is missing in this conf list under iFolder, but - as I described - I can't change also nothing. Weird. Good to have it work as ... may be is good idea to use SSL connection instead regular (client 3.7 support it) and this option is in this list I can't change. Any ideas? I wrote this in Novell iFolder forum, but nothing yet. More thanks, Alar from Estonia. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee Thu Mar 12 08:29:54 2009 From: Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee (Alar Pandis) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:29:54 +0200 Subject: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 loosescontact every24 hours In-Reply-To: <443E1E7A-5B4A-40DB-84E6-4329EE558AFF@comcast.net> References: <00c301c991df$68d9f9a0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee><00b501c99be3$3e6ad500$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee><49ACE29802000072000007B0@mail2.tpchd.org><008e01c99fed$79c021b0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> <443E1E7A-5B4A-40DB-84E6-4329EE558AFF@comcast.net> Message-ID: <005b01c9a2ec$b89a95d0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> Hi and thanks Randy! Probably I'll go for it, I mean replace all. But ... strange thing happen ... almost 1 month after this trouble start and BM box didn't work more than 25 ... 36 hours ... it does now so far straight ... 6 days and 4 hours! I didn't nothing more I described here and after each change I'd server behave the same way! But now ... after last forced restart ... 6 days, wow! Any bell ringing now!? =) Month!? More thanks, Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Randy Grein [mailto:randygrein at comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 8:14 PM To: Novell LAN Interest Group Subject: Re: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 loosescontact every24 hours Replacing it entirely will almost certainly solve the problem. (grin) If that is cost-prohibitive (a multi interface firewall is expensive) reconsider replacing the hardware - all of it. This is a core function of your network and trying to sort out which component is failing is not worth the downtime and user heartache. Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA On Mar 8, 2009, at 5:57 AM, Alar Pandis wrote: > Hi again and thanks Randy! > I have not bad feelings about 3Com NIC's. So far! As we did use > outside > proxy (our own is not loaded at all) and people said internet access > is slow > and I'd allow direct http and https (our proxy is not loaded, I repeat > myself) and ... seems to me this saves our firewall little bit as > right now > it is up already ... 2 days and 10 hours -- for month nothing such. > Could > this shed a light? > Probably, as this box is old anyway -- hardware and also software, I > will > change firewall to special Cisco box. Peace of mind is also worth > something! > =) > More thanks, Alar. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Randy Grein [mailto:RGrein at tpchd.org] > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 5:56 PM > To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' > Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 > loosescontact > every 24 hours > > Not a high number of CRC errors, but I have had my share of problems > with > 3Com cards dying - as in dropping packets completely over time like > you're > seeing. If you can, try replacing the likeliest cards and test some > more. > > > > > Randy Grein > Sr. Network Engineer >>>> "Alar Pandis" 3/3/2009 1:34 AM >>> > Hi again and thanks Randy! > I can tell from 3Com switch to BM box (outside line) -- 1671 CRC > errors > right now since ... port is up (I changed it from one switch to > another to > except problems) 5 days or so. I see there on another ports much worse > statistics, probably ... it is ok. I'm not sure. > But I'd check every switch connection to BM box NIC's and 3Com 4500 > tells > (when I log in via telnet) about our WiFi subnet (there is 3Com AP's > and all > students with WiFi devices) that "The link partner of Ethernet1 / > 0/44 may be > bad,sending lots of error packets !". Inside box is for this subnet > old 3Com > 3c5x9 NIC. For outside line 3c59x and other three is 3c90xc NIC's. > More thanks, Alar. > >>>> Randy Grein RGrein at tpchd.org Mon Mar 2 18:16:32 GMT 2009 <<< > > Hmm. I'm out of ideas - unless you're getting a lot of network > errors. Can > you check the network adapter stats AND the switch port? > > Randy Grein > Sr. Network Engineer > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] > Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 12:41 PM > To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' > Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses > contact > every 24 hours > > Hi and thanks again Randy! > Tried, same happen. Seems to that at weekends it work some 36 hours > and > weekdays 25. > More thanks, Alar. > >>>> Randy Grein RGrein at tpchd.org Thu Feb 26 17:23:37 GMT 2009 <<< > > > What jumps out at me is the nonreferenced delay time - 30 minutes is > a LONG > time. It's been a while since I've had to deal with a traditional > volume, > but try cutting it back to 30 seconds - you can always bump it back > up. I > seem to recall some odd things happening with directory cache buffer > exhaustion. > > Randy Grein > Sr. Network Engineer > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 5:48 PM > To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' > Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses > contact > every 24 hours > > Hi and thanks Randy! > > I'd load proxy with cc option on the second day, I think, when this > start to > happen ... some two weeks and few days ago. Right now proxy isn't > loaded for > week or so. In console log I see that just some bordermanager audit- > nlm is > autoloaded. > > Just for a case I add some parameters. May be You see something I > don't. > Machine is Pentium III 450 MHz (Intel motherboard), 3x256 Mb RAM > (was 3x128 > when this start to happen). Disk is 50 GB (sys, cache and cache1). > Five 3Com > NIC's. I'd replace memory, harddisk and power-supply. > > Original cache buffers 195891 > Total cache buffers 162941 > Long term cache hits (server up 9 hours) 67% and rising > Packet receive buffers 5000 (min 5000, max 10000) > Directory cache buffers 2051 (min 2000, max 5000) > > (When I normally restart server Directory cache buffers is about > 1500+, but > when it is restarted by force then it show 2000+.) > > Allocated memory pool 41529344 5% > Cache buffer memory 667406336 83% > Cache movable memory 0 0% > Cache non-movable memory 167936 0 > Code and data memory 93265920 12% > Total server work memory 804845568 100% > > Tuneup mostly with settings from Craig Johnson. > > Set Maximum Packet Receive Buffers = 10000 > Set Minimum Packet Receive Buffers = 5000 > Set New Packet Receive Buffer Wait Time = 0.1 sec > Set Maximum Interrupt Events = 50 > Set Garbage Collection Interval = 5 min > Set Read Ahead Enabled = on > Set Maximum Concurrent Disk Cache Writes = 750 > Set Dirty Disk Cache Delay Time = 0.1 sec > Set Dirty Directory Cache Delay Time = 0.1 sec > Set Maximum Concurrent Directory Cache Writes = 125 > Set Directory Cache Allocation Wait Time = 0.1 sec > Set Directory Cache Buffer NonReferenced delay = 30 min > Set Minimum Directory Cache Buffers = 2000 > Set Maximum Directory Cache Buffers = 5000 > Set Maximum Number of Internal Directory Handles = 500 > Set Immediate Purge of Deleted Files = on > Set Enable File Compression = off > Set Maximum File Locks = 100000 > Set Enable Hardware Write Back = on > Set Enable Disk Read After Write Verify = off > Set Worker Thread Execute In A Row Count = 15 > Set Pseudo Preemption Count = 200 > Set Minimum Service Processes = 200 > Set Maximum Service Processes = 500 > > More thanks, Alar. > >>>> Randy Grein RGrein at tpchd.org Thu Feb 26 15:31:29 GMT 2009 <<< > > One bare possibility occurs to me - have you cleared the proxy cache > on this > server yet? > > Randy Grein > Sr. Network Engineer > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 1:08 PM > To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' > Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses > contact > every 24 hours > > Hi again with still same problem! > I have from outside network two ping addresses -- server itself and > one > email server behind. First start failed ping to email server, ping > to server > from outside and inside failed some minute(s) after that. And then > console > from server does work, but ... restart from console not. No error > messages > or whatsoever. After restart server work ok some 24-25 hours and > same happen > again. > Yesterday we changed from one outside line to another, but probably > problem > lies not there. > Alar. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] > Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:47 PM > To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' > Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses > contactevery 24 hours > > Hi again! > Did change hard disk and also power supply! But ... same problem. > Interesting that after re(over)installing SP8 this time cycle did > change > from approximately from 24-25 hours to 34-35 hours! > I'm lost! > More thanks, Alar. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 12:07 PM > To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' > Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses > contactevery 24 hours > > Perhaps I must replace a hard disk? Could there be problems NetWare > can't > recognize? I mean, show errors? No error appear during copying all > files > from this disk, for backup. > Alar. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 11:38 AM > To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' > Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses > contactevery 24 hours > > Hi again! > Still. I'd reinstall SP8 and it hold on ... almost 36 hours and ... > lost > contact again! > Loaded (from console) is just dhcp and DNS. Could it be NDS- > related!? I > can't see any memory lost, but may be I didn't look the right place!? > Any further ideas? > More thanks, Alar. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] > Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:42 PM > To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' > Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses > contactevery 24 hours > > Hi again and thanks James! > I'm agree -- this our NW 5.1 with BM 3.6 on top of it has done very > good > job, indeed! But now I'm thinking replace it with special firewall > device > like NSA 2400 from Sonicwall etc. I'm not sure. But, anyway, I can't > do that > in middle of working period, may be at summer or so. If something > with this > server more bad does not happen, I hope not. > I'll wait until server does next unplanned stop as last day I'd > removed from > autoexec some SSL and FTP components still loaded with no use and > then try > to reinstall SP8. > More thanks, Alar. > >>>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Feb 18 >>>> 14:29:09 GMT > 2009 >>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > Yes. Also, pay attention to any post sp8 updates that may have been > applied. There may be some TCP updates since the original patch, so > you > want to make sure everything matches afterward. > > FYI - I'm still running both of my public DNS servers, with BM, on > NW65sp8. > I've had these servers (workstations, actually) running for over 7 > years, > and I need to update the hardware and replace then with linux > servers, but > they have been so rock solid, I hate to touch them. > > -jt > > > James Taylor > The East Cobb Group, Inc. > 678-697-9420 > james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com > http://www.eastcobbgroup.com > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] > Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 4:16 PM > To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' > Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses > contact > every 24 hours > > Hi again and thanks! > Well, that's something! > So, I just run SP8 again as I did it before? Probably I must change > tcpip > later back as it is for BM. > More thanks, Alar. > >>>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Feb 18 >>>> 13:43:31 GMT > 2009 <<< > > > Since this started occurring without any know related event, it may > be an > instance of file corruption somewhere. I have had strange, > intermittent > problems with no obvious cause that I have cured by reinstalling the > latest > support pack. It replaces a very large percentage of system files, > so there > is a good chance that, if there is a corrupted file, it will be > replaced. > It is a bit of a shotgun approach, but it doesn't usually take long > and > often works. > > -jt > > > James Taylor > The East Cobb Group, Inc. > 678-697-9420 > james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com > http://www.eastcobbgroup.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] > Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 12:58 PM > To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' > Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses > contact > every 24 hours > > Hi! > As no reply for this, I little bit rephrase my question! As no BM > stuff is > loaded anymore I wonder where to look when NetWare 5.1 SP8 start act > as > described below?! (Well, it start act so being loaded also with BM > stuff.) > This machine is first between outside world. Almost nothing is > loaded, just > NAT and filtering as it still acts like firewall. > And ... 24 hours and connection is broken, restart and again 24 hours. > Any ideas? > More thanks, Alar. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:37 AM > To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' > Subject: RE: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours > > Hi again! > 24 hours and it looses all network connectivity and need restart. > Sunday > morning I'd replace all memory pieces and add twice as much memory. > Also did > clean it inside, little bit dusty. Nothing helps. > Right now I see that directory cache buffers is by 34 over minimum > 1700, but > last time when I saw same and restart machine it decrease to 1110 or > so. > I have on server console just console, timesync debug screen, named, > dhcpsrvr debug screen, novell ssl server handshake screen and monitor. > Usually I have started brdsrv and inetcfg and filtcfg, nothing more. > What I'd when proxy start to show on client browsers memory error. > I'd add three add ip addresses (in autoexec) to allow direct > connection > between outside and inside worlds for one server and two as for > future. > Removed from autoexec tftp start, we don't use it anymore. And ... > nothing > more. > Any ideas? > More thanks, > Alar. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] > Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 3:49 PM > To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' > Subject: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours > > Hi! > BM 3.6 SP2a, NW 5.1 SP8. Started last Monday our BM server start to > behave > oddly. First we noticed that internet access via BM proxy start show > "Status > : 500 Internal Server Error -- Description : Novell Proxy Memory > Allocation > error". After I'd restart server (change almost nothing, add few NAT > addresses I have planned, this requires restart) it did work almost > exactly > 24 hours and ... we did lost connection to it. So few days. Exactly 24 > hours. On server side it did work (console was ok) and I could note > Monitor > info etc., but on restart attempt from console it didn't restart - > console > hung -, but in other way was accessible for open programs from > console. I > have to push the button. And ... 24 and same. It did work 310 days > before > that and years before that wo any major problems. > Any ideas to start for looking some numbers from console. I tried, > but for > me it shows almost ... normal. Didn't start brdsrv (incl. proxy) > anymore and > same happen, few hours later than 24 hours running. > Any help is greatly appreciated. > More thanks, Alar. > See also threads > http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-prox > > ies/359814-novell-proxy-memory-allocation-error.html > http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-inst > > all-setup/360651-bm-3-6-looses-access-every-24-hours-so.html > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > **************************************************************************** > ********* > This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and > privileged > information. It has been scanned for viruses. If you are not the > intended > recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, > delete > this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination, use, review, > disclosure, or distribution of this information by a person other > than the > intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. > **************************************************************************** > ********** > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee Thu Mar 12 08:50:44 2009 From: Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee (Alar Pandis) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:50:44 +0200 Subject: iPrint SSL Error 5 -- Authentication failed (from separate subnet) Message-ID: <006101c9a2ef$a1834d30$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> Hi! Novell NW 6.5 SP7, iPrint. When I try connect via iPrint Authentication box with existing and correct credentials then sometimes I see SSL Error 5, sometimes it just "Authentication failed ...". I can connect from same machine with same credentials to Imanager ...! But ... this problem happen when I try connect from separate local subnet to another local subnet where is server. When I try to connect from same subnet where is server ... everything is ok also with iPrint -- that means certificate must be up to date? etc. must work OK?, isn't it? (On same box is iFolder and ... it does work.) Firewall between is BM 3.6 and seems to me full rights is from/to, but ... auth failed. Any ideas? More thanks, Alar. From Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee Thu Mar 12 09:08:38 2009 From: Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee (Alar Pandis) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:08:38 +0200 Subject: After upgrade OES2 to SP1 on SLES 10 iFolder sysconf page empty Message-ID: <006401c9a2f2$219c8160$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> Hi and thanks! Folder is there and inside is: SimiasServerSetup.exe SimiasServerSetup.exe.config certcheck get-root-certificate iFolderAdminSetup.exe iFolderAdminSetup.exe.config iFolderLdapUserUpdate.sh iFolderWebSetup.exe iFolderWebSetup.exe.config ifbackup ifolder-admin-setup ifolder-web-setup simias-create-user simias-delete-user simias-server simias-server-setup simias-user My problem is connected also to thread (February) here as "iFolder 3.7 "Server unavailable" error" (Mr. JoeD replied to this). Also I described it in Novell iFolder Forums http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/ifolder/359647-ifolde r-3-7-server-unavailable.html Last day iFolder 3.7 server stop working. Restarting Apache didn't help anymore, error in Apache log appear almost immediately. First I thought this is connected to bad installation (it still could be), but yesterday on my way home I start thinking maybe iFolder cant' handle amount of files I have! Today I'd exit iFolder client from my desktop, restart Apache on server and ... voila, iFolder didn't crash anymore! I can access from web (I couldn't after iF crash), I can access to admin-page (I couldn't yesterday), client from another machine does work ... so ... probably I'm correct?! Or maybe not. I can't open a case as I just try iFolder. That's it! More thanks, Alar. >>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Mar 11 19:52:56 GMT 2009 <<< Is the /opt/novell/ifolder3/bin folder there? If not, or if the sms-server-config file is not there, then you didn't get a good install of ifolder. -jt James Taylor The East Cobb Group, Inc. 678-697-9420 james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com http://www.eastcobbgroup.com -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 8:54 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: Re: After upgrade OES2 to SP1 on SLES 10 iFolder sysconf page empty Hi and thanks! What file to execute You mean? No such a file there! More thanks, Alar. >>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Mon Jan 26 13:57:21 GMT 2009 <<< You can bypass the yast config for ifolder3 by doing a command line configuration Open a console window at the server and su to root. cd /opt/novell/ifolder3/bin and run ./simias-server-config enter all of the the information relevant to your system as it prompts. Many of the entries will have defaults that are preset to values you want to use. Just select Y when you see those. Otherwise, type in the correct info. One annoying quirk of the installation is that you can't backspace for the entries. If you make a mistake, ctrl-c and rerun, it only takes a few minutes to set up. -jt James Taylor The East Cobb Group, Inc. 678-697-9420 james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com http://www.eastcobbgroup.com >>> "Alar Pandis" 1/26/2009 06:45 AM >>> Hi! Finally I managed upgrade OES2 to OES2 SP1 (and SLES 10 SP1 to SP2), but ... during iFolder upgrade appear error "unable to upgrade Novell iFolder 3" or something (I didn't write it down). But, seems to me everything works fine (couple of hours for now at least). But ... when I try to reconfigure iFolder (just a try!) it appears that third page in YaST "Novell iFolder System Configuration Options" is empty! Nothing there but back, abort and next! Last one can't be chosen as error "A valid Server Name must be entered" appear, but I can't enter it, no field for that. In "Use Following Configuration" screen after enabling iFolder reconf appear that "Novell iFolder requires additional conf info". I can't see anything important is missing in this conf list under iFolder, but - as I described - I can't change also nothing. Weird. Good to have it work as ... may be is good idea to use SSL connection instead regular (client 3.7 support it) and this option is in this list I can't change. Any ideas? I wrote this in Novell iFolder forum, but nothing yet. More thanks, Alar from Estonia. From James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Thu Mar 12 11:35:28 2009 From: James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com (James Taylor) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:35:28 -0400 Subject: After upgrade OES2 to SP1 on SLES 10 iFolder sysconf page empty In-Reply-To: <006401c9a2f2$219c8160$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> References: <006401c9a2f2$219c8160$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> Message-ID: <49B8BB40020000750002CF78@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> I apologize. Total brain fade on my part. I should have referenced simias-server-setup. -jt James Taylor The East Cobb Group, Inc. 678-697-9420 james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com http://www.eastcobbgroup.com >>> "Alar Pandis" 3/12/2009 05:08 AM >>> Hi and thanks! Folder is there and inside is: SimiasServerSetup.exe SimiasServerSetup.exe.config certcheck get-root-certificate iFolderAdminSetup.exe iFolderAdminSetup.exe.config iFolderLdapUserUpdate.sh iFolderWebSetup.exe iFolderWebSetup.exe.config ifbackup ifolder-admin-setup ifolder-web-setup simias-create-user simias-delete-user simias-server simias-server-setup simias-user My problem is connected also to thread (February) here as "iFolder 3.7 "Server unavailable" error" (Mr. JoeD replied to this). Also I described it in Novell iFolder Forums http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/ifolder/359647-ifolde r-3-7-server-unavailable.html Last day iFolder 3.7 server stop working. Restarting Apache didn't help anymore, error in Apache log appear almost immediately. First I thought this is connected to bad installation (it still could be), but yesterday on my way home I start thinking maybe iFolder cant' handle amount of files I have! Today I'd exit iFolder client from my desktop, restart Apache on server and ... voila, iFolder didn't crash anymore! I can access from web (I couldn't after iF crash), I can access to admin-page (I couldn't yesterday), client from another machine does work ... so ... probably I'm correct?! Or maybe not. I can't open a case as I just try iFolder. That's it! More thanks, Alar. >>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Mar 11 19:52:56 GMT 2009 <<< Is the /opt/novell/ifolder3/bin folder there? If not, or if the sms-server-config file is not there, then you didn't get a good install of ifolder. -jt James Taylor The East Cobb Group, Inc. 678-697-9420 james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com http://www.eastcobbgroup.com -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 8:54 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: Re: After upgrade OES2 to SP1 on SLES 10 iFolder sysconf page empty Hi and thanks! What file to execute You mean? No such a file there! More thanks, Alar. >>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Mon Jan 26 13:57:21 GMT 2009 <<< You can bypass the yast config for ifolder3 by doing a command line configuration Open a console window at the server and su to root. cd /opt/novell/ifolder3/bin and run ./simias-server-config enter all of the the information relevant to your system as it prompts. Many of the entries will have defaults that are preset to values you want to use. Just select Y when you see those. Otherwise, type in the correct info. One annoying quirk of the installation is that you can't backspace for the entries. If you make a mistake, ctrl-c and rerun, it only takes a few minutes to set up. -jt James Taylor The East Cobb Group, Inc. 678-697-9420 james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com http://www.eastcobbgroup.com >>> "Alar Pandis" 1/26/2009 06:45 AM >>> Hi! Finally I managed upgrade OES2 to OES2 SP1 (and SLES 10 SP1 to SP2), but ... during iFolder upgrade appear error "unable to upgrade Novell iFolder 3" or something (I didn't write it down). But, seems to me everything works fine (couple of hours for now at least). But ... when I try to reconfigure iFolder (just a try!) it appears that third page in YaST "Novell iFolder System Configuration Options" is empty! Nothing there but back, abort and next! Last one can't be chosen as error "A valid Server Name must be entered" appear, but I can't enter it, no field for that. In "Use Following Configuration" screen after enabling iFolder reconf appear that "Novell iFolder requires additional conf info". I can't see anything important is missing in this conf list under iFolder, but - as I described - I can't change also nothing. Weird. Good to have it work as ... may be is good idea to use SSL connection instead regular (client 3.7 support it) and this option is in this list I can't change. Any ideas? I wrote this in Novell iFolder forum, but nothing yet. More thanks, Alar from Estonia. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From randygrein at comcast.net Fri Mar 13 00:31:15 2009 From: randygrein at comcast.net (Randy Grein) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:31:15 -0700 Subject: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 loosescontact every24 hours In-Reply-To: <005b01c9a2ec$b89a95d0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> References: <00c301c991df$68d9f9a0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee><00b501c99be3$3e6ad500$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee><49ACE29802000072000007B0@mail2.tpchd.org><008e01c99fed$79c021b0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> <443E1E7A-5B4A-40DB-84E6-4329EE558AFF@comcast.net> <005b01c9a2ec$b89a95d0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> Message-ID: Nope, no ideas. Good thing it's up now, but for how long? Wait - could it be temperature, like maybe the AC was off for a while? Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA On Mar 12, 2009, at 1:29 AM, Alar Pandis wrote: > Hi and thanks Randy! > Probably I'll go for it, I mean replace all. But ... strange thing > happen > ... almost 1 month after this trouble start and BM box didn't work > more than > 25 ... 36 hours ... it does now so far straight ... 6 days and 4 > hours! I > didn't nothing more I described here and after each change I'd > server behave > the same way! But now ... after last forced restart ... 6 days, wow! > Any bell ringing now!? =) Month!? > More thanks, Alar. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Randy Grein [mailto:randygrein at comcast.net] > Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 8:14 PM > To: Novell LAN Interest Group > Subject: Re: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 > loosescontact > every24 hours > > Replacing it entirely will almost certainly solve the problem. (grin) > If that is cost-prohibitive (a multi interface firewall is expensive) > reconsider replacing the hardware - all of it. This is a core > function of your network and trying to sort out which component is > failing is not worth the downtime and user heartache. > > Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA > > On Mar 8, 2009, at 5:57 AM, Alar Pandis wrote: > >> Hi again and thanks Randy! >> I have not bad feelings about 3Com NIC's. So far! As we did use >> outside >> proxy (our own is not loaded at all) and people said internet access >> is slow >> and I'd allow direct http and https (our proxy is not loaded, I >> repeat >> myself) and ... seems to me this saves our firewall little bit as >> right now >> it is up already ... 2 days and 10 hours -- for month nothing such. >> Could >> this shed a light? >> Probably, as this box is old anyway -- hardware and also software, I >> will >> change firewall to special Cisco box. Peace of mind is also worth >> something! >> =) >> More thanks, Alar. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Randy Grein [mailto:RGrein at tpchd.org] >> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 5:56 PM >> To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' >> Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 >> loosescontact >> every 24 hours >> >> Not a high number of CRC errors, but I have had my share of problems >> with >> 3Com cards dying - as in dropping packets completely over time like >> you're >> seeing. If you can, try replacing the likeliest cards and test some >> more. >> >> >> >> >> Randy Grein >> Sr. Network Engineer >>>>> "Alar Pandis" 3/3/2009 1:34 AM >>> >> Hi again and thanks Randy! >> I can tell from 3Com switch to BM box (outside line) -- 1671 CRC >> errors >> right now since ... port is up (I changed it from one switch to >> another to >> except problems) 5 days or so. I see there on another ports much >> worse >> statistics, probably ... it is ok. I'm not sure. >> But I'd check every switch connection to BM box NIC's and 3Com 4500 >> tells >> (when I log in via telnet) about our WiFi subnet (there is 3Com AP's >> and all >> students with WiFi devices) that "The link partner of Ethernet1 / >> 0/44 may be >> bad,sending lots of error packets !". Inside box is for this subnet >> old 3Com >> 3c5x9 NIC. For outside line 3c59x and other three is 3c90xc NIC's. >> More thanks, Alar. >> >>>>> Randy Grein RGrein at tpchd.org Mon Mar 2 18:16:32 GMT 2009 <<< >> >> Hmm. I'm out of ideas - unless you're getting a lot of network >> errors. Can >> you check the network adapter stats AND the switch port? >> >> Randy Grein >> Sr. Network Engineer >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] >> Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 12:41 PM >> To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' >> Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses >> contact >> every 24 hours >> >> Hi and thanks again Randy! >> Tried, same happen. Seems to that at weekends it work some 36 hours >> and >> weekdays 25. >> More thanks, Alar. >> >>>>> Randy Grein RGrein at tpchd.org Thu Feb 26 17:23:37 GMT 2009 <<< >> >> >> What jumps out at me is the nonreferenced delay time - 30 minutes is >> a LONG >> time. It's been a while since I've had to deal with a traditional >> volume, >> but try cutting it back to 30 seconds - you can always bump it back >> up. I >> seem to recall some odd things happening with directory cache buffer >> exhaustion. >> >> Randy Grein >> Sr. Network Engineer >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] >> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 5:48 PM >> To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' >> Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses >> contact >> every 24 hours >> >> Hi and thanks Randy! >> >> I'd load proxy with cc option on the second day, I think, when this >> start to >> happen ... some two weeks and few days ago. Right now proxy isn't >> loaded for >> week or so. In console log I see that just some bordermanager audit- >> nlm is >> autoloaded. >> >> Just for a case I add some parameters. May be You see something I >> don't. >> Machine is Pentium III 450 MHz (Intel motherboard), 3x256 Mb RAM >> (was 3x128 >> when this start to happen). Disk is 50 GB (sys, cache and cache1). >> Five 3Com >> NIC's. I'd replace memory, harddisk and power-supply. >> >> Original cache buffers 195891 >> Total cache buffers 162941 >> Long term cache hits (server up 9 hours) 67% and rising >> Packet receive buffers 5000 (min 5000, max 10000) >> Directory cache buffers 2051 (min 2000, max 5000) >> >> (When I normally restart server Directory cache buffers is about >> 1500+, but >> when it is restarted by force then it show 2000+.) >> >> Allocated memory pool 41529344 5% >> Cache buffer memory 667406336 83% >> Cache movable memory 0 0% >> Cache non-movable memory 167936 0 >> Code and data memory 93265920 12% >> Total server work memory 804845568 100% >> >> Tuneup mostly with settings from Craig Johnson. >> >> Set Maximum Packet Receive Buffers = 10000 >> Set Minimum Packet Receive Buffers = 5000 >> Set New Packet Receive Buffer Wait Time = 0.1 sec >> Set Maximum Interrupt Events = 50 >> Set Garbage Collection Interval = 5 min >> Set Read Ahead Enabled = on >> Set Maximum Concurrent Disk Cache Writes = 750 >> Set Dirty Disk Cache Delay Time = 0.1 sec >> Set Dirty Directory Cache Delay Time = 0.1 sec >> Set Maximum Concurrent Directory Cache Writes = 125 >> Set Directory Cache Allocation Wait Time = 0.1 sec >> Set Directory Cache Buffer NonReferenced delay = 30 min >> Set Minimum Directory Cache Buffers = 2000 >> Set Maximum Directory Cache Buffers = 5000 >> Set Maximum Number of Internal Directory Handles = 500 >> Set Immediate Purge of Deleted Files = on >> Set Enable File Compression = off >> Set Maximum File Locks = 100000 >> Set Enable Hardware Write Back = on >> Set Enable Disk Read After Write Verify = off >> Set Worker Thread Execute In A Row Count = 15 >> Set Pseudo Preemption Count = 200 >> Set Minimum Service Processes = 200 >> Set Maximum Service Processes = 500 >> >> More thanks, Alar. >> >>>>> Randy Grein RGrein at tpchd.org Thu Feb 26 15:31:29 GMT 2009 <<< >> >> One bare possibility occurs to me - have you cleared the proxy cache >> on this >> server yet? >> >> Randy Grein >> Sr. Network Engineer >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] >> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 1:08 PM >> To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' >> Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses >> contact >> every 24 hours >> >> Hi again with still same problem! >> I have from outside network two ping addresses -- server itself and >> one >> email server behind. First start failed ping to email server, ping >> to server >> from outside and inside failed some minute(s) after that. And then >> console >> from server does work, but ... restart from console not. No error >> messages >> or whatsoever. After restart server work ok some 24-25 hours and >> same happen >> again. >> Yesterday we changed from one outside line to another, but probably >> problem >> lies not there. >> Alar. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] >> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:47 PM >> To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' >> Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses >> contactevery 24 hours >> >> Hi again! >> Did change hard disk and also power supply! But ... same problem. >> Interesting that after re(over)installing SP8 this time cycle did >> change >> from approximately from 24-25 hours to 34-35 hours! >> I'm lost! >> More thanks, Alar. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] >> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 12:07 PM >> To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' >> Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses >> contactevery 24 hours >> >> Perhaps I must replace a hard disk? Could there be problems NetWare >> can't >> recognize? I mean, show errors? No error appear during copying all >> files >> from this disk, for backup. >> Alar. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] >> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 11:38 AM >> To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' >> Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses >> contactevery 24 hours >> >> Hi again! >> Still. I'd reinstall SP8 and it hold on ... almost 36 hours and ... >> lost >> contact again! >> Loaded (from console) is just dhcp and DNS. Could it be NDS- >> related!? I >> can't see any memory lost, but may be I didn't look the right place!? >> Any further ideas? >> More thanks, Alar. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] >> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:42 PM >> To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' >> Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses >> contactevery 24 hours >> >> Hi again and thanks James! >> I'm agree -- this our NW 5.1 with BM 3.6 on top of it has done very >> good >> job, indeed! But now I'm thinking replace it with special firewall >> device >> like NSA 2400 from Sonicwall etc. I'm not sure. But, anyway, I can't >> do that >> in middle of working period, may be at summer or so. If something >> with this >> server more bad does not happen, I hope not. >> I'll wait until server does next unplanned stop as last day I'd >> removed from >> autoexec some SSL and FTP components still loaded with no use and >> then try >> to reinstall SP8. >> More thanks, Alar. >> >>>>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Feb 18 >>>>> 14:29:09 GMT >> 2009 >>> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---- >> >> Yes. Also, pay attention to any post sp8 updates that may have been >> applied. There may be some TCP updates since the original patch, so >> you >> want to make sure everything matches afterward. >> >> FYI - I'm still running both of my public DNS servers, with BM, on >> NW65sp8. >> I've had these servers (workstations, actually) running for over 7 >> years, >> and I need to update the hardware and replace then with linux >> servers, but >> they have been so rock solid, I hate to touch them. >> >> -jt >> >> >> James Taylor >> The East Cobb Group, Inc. >> 678-697-9420 >> james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com >> http://www.eastcobbgroup.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] >> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 4:16 PM >> To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' >> Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses >> contact >> every 24 hours >> >> Hi again and thanks! >> Well, that's something! >> So, I just run SP8 again as I did it before? Probably I must change >> tcpip >> later back as it is for BM. >> More thanks, Alar. >> >>>>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Feb 18 >>>>> 13:43:31 GMT >> 2009 <<< >> >> >> Since this started occurring without any know related event, it may >> be an >> instance of file corruption somewhere. I have had strange, >> intermittent >> problems with no obvious cause that I have cured by reinstalling the >> latest >> support pack. It replaces a very large percentage of system files, >> so there >> is a good chance that, if there is a corrupted file, it will be >> replaced. >> It is a bit of a shotgun approach, but it doesn't usually take long >> and >> often works. >> >> -jt >> >> >> James Taylor >> The East Cobb Group, Inc. >> 678-697-9420 >> james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com >> http://www.eastcobbgroup.com >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] >> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 12:58 PM >> To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' >> Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses >> contact >> every 24 hours >> >> Hi! >> As no reply for this, I little bit rephrase my question! As no BM >> stuff is >> loaded anymore I wonder where to look when NetWare 5.1 SP8 start act >> as >> described below?! (Well, it start act so being loaded also with BM >> stuff.) >> This machine is first between outside world. Almost nothing is >> loaded, just >> NAT and filtering as it still acts like firewall. >> And ... 24 hours and connection is broken, restart and again 24 >> hours. >> Any ideas? >> More thanks, Alar. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] >> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:37 AM >> To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' >> Subject: RE: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours >> >> Hi again! >> 24 hours and it looses all network connectivity and need restart. >> Sunday >> morning I'd replace all memory pieces and add twice as much memory. >> Also did >> clean it inside, little bit dusty. Nothing helps. >> Right now I see that directory cache buffers is by 34 over minimum >> 1700, but >> last time when I saw same and restart machine it decrease to 1110 or >> so. >> I have on server console just console, timesync debug screen, named, >> dhcpsrvr debug screen, novell ssl server handshake screen and >> monitor. >> Usually I have started brdsrv and inetcfg and filtcfg, nothing more. >> What I'd when proxy start to show on client browsers memory error. >> I'd add three add ip addresses (in autoexec) to allow direct >> connection >> between outside and inside worlds for one server and two as for >> future. >> Removed from autoexec tftp start, we don't use it anymore. And ... >> nothing >> more. >> Any ideas? >> More thanks, >> Alar. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] >> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 3:49 PM >> To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' >> Subject: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours >> >> Hi! >> BM 3.6 SP2a, NW 5.1 SP8. Started last Monday our BM server start to >> behave >> oddly. First we noticed that internet access via BM proxy start show >> "Status >> : 500 Internal Server Error -- Description : Novell Proxy Memory >> Allocation >> error". After I'd restart server (change almost nothing, add few NAT >> addresses I have planned, this requires restart) it did work almost >> exactly >> 24 hours and ... we did lost connection to it. So few days. Exactly >> 24 >> hours. On server side it did work (console was ok) and I could note >> Monitor >> info etc., but on restart attempt from console it didn't restart - >> console >> hung -, but in other way was accessible for open programs from >> console. I >> have to push the button. And ... 24 and same. It did work 310 days >> before >> that and years before that wo any major problems. >> Any ideas to start for looking some numbers from console. I tried, >> but for >> me it shows almost ... normal. Didn't start brdsrv (incl. proxy) >> anymore and >> same happen, few hours later than 24 hours running. >> Any help is greatly appreciated. >> More thanks, Alar. >> See also threads >> > http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-prox >> >> ies/359814-novell-proxy-memory-allocation-error.html >> > http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-inst >> >> all-setup/360651-bm-3-6-looses-access-every-24-hours-so.html >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Novell mailing list >> Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk >> http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >> > **************************************************************************** >> ********* >> This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and >> privileged >> information. It has been scanned for viruses. If you are not the >> intended >> recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, >> delete >> this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination, use, review, >> disclosure, or distribution of this information by a person other >> than the >> intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. >> > **************************************************************************** >> ********** >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Novell mailing list >> Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk >> http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee Fri Mar 13 09:18:38 2009 From: Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee (Alar Pandis) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:18:38 +0200 Subject: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 loosescontact every24 hours References: <00c301c991df$68d9f9a0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee><00b501c99be3$3e6ad500$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee><49ACE29802000072000007B0@mail2.tpchd.org><008e01c99fed$79c021b0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> <443E1E7A-5B4A-40DB-84E6-4329EE558AFF@comcast.net> Message-ID: <015b01c9a3bc$b15f4600$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> Hi again and thanks Randy! No, AC is OK! Now 7 days and 6 hours up already! =) Another interesting thing I noticed. During this every-day-failure there was at least one (here commonly used news, outside our firewall, of course) http page that during opening asking something to save and ... didn't open the page. When user choose subpage from same http ... everything was ok! If this problem went away (for now!) then I was told that this page did open also OK! I'm not sure this is connected etc, but interesting. Note: our proxy wasn't loaded, also wasn't loaded brdsrv at all! And is not now. Could cache-drives affect system somehow even brdsrv (incl. proxy) is not loaded! I'd on second day of failure load proxy with cc option. One is sure -- all I did to handle this ... was nothing. But ... anyway .. I had to. More thanks, Alar. >>> Randy Grein randygrein at comcast.net Fri Mar 13 00:31:15 GMT 2009 <<< Nope, no ideas. Good thing it's up now, but for how long? Wait - could it be temperature, like maybe the AC was off for a while? Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA On Mar 12, 2009, at 1:29 AM, Alar Pandis wrote: -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:30 AM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 loosescontact every24 hours Hi and thanks Randy! Probably I'll go for it, I mean replace all. But ... strange thing happen ... almost 1 month after this trouble start and BM box didn't work more than 25 ... 36 hours ... it does now so far straight ... 6 days and 4 hours! I didn't nothing more I described here and after each change I'd server behave the same way! But now ... after last forced restart ... 6 days, wow! Any bell ringing now!? =) Month!? More thanks, Alar. -----Original Message----- From: Randy Grein [mailto:randygrein at comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 8:14 PM To: Novell LAN Interest Group Subject: Re: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 loosescontact every24 hours Replacing it entirely will almost certainly solve the problem. (grin) If that is cost-prohibitive (a multi interface firewall is expensive) reconsider replacing the hardware - all of it. This is a core function of your network and trying to sort out which component is failing is not worth the downtime and user heartache. Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA On Mar 8, 2009, at 5:57 AM, Alar Pandis wrote: > Hi again and thanks Randy! > I have not bad feelings about 3Com NIC's. So far! As we did use > outside > proxy (our own is not loaded at all) and people said internet access > is slow > and I'd allow direct http and https (our proxy is not loaded, I repeat > myself) and ... seems to me this saves our firewall little bit as > right now > it is up already ... 2 days and 10 hours -- for month nothing such. > Could > this shed a light? > Probably, as this box is old anyway -- hardware and also software, I > will > change firewall to special Cisco box. Peace of mind is also worth > something! > =) > More thanks, Alar. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Randy Grein [mailto:RGrein at tpchd.org] > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 5:56 PM > To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' > Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 > loosescontact > every 24 hours > > Not a high number of CRC errors, but I have had my share of problems > with > 3Com cards dying - as in dropping packets completely over time like > you're > seeing. If you can, try replacing the likeliest cards and test some > more. > > > > > Randy Grein > Sr. Network Engineer >>>> "Alar Pandis" 3/3/2009 1:34 AM >>> > Hi again and thanks Randy! > I can tell from 3Com switch to BM box (outside line) -- 1671 CRC > errors > right now since ... port is up (I changed it from one switch to > another to > except problems) 5 days or so. I see there on another ports much worse > statistics, probably ... it is ok. I'm not sure. > But I'd check every switch connection to BM box NIC's and 3Com 4500 > tells > (when I log in via telnet) about our WiFi subnet (there is 3Com AP's > and all > students with WiFi devices) that "The link partner of Ethernet1 / > 0/44 may be > bad,sending lots of error packets !". Inside box is for this subnet > old 3Com > 3c5x9 NIC. For outside line 3c59x and other three is 3c90xc NIC's. > More thanks, Alar. > >>>> Randy Grein RGrein at tpchd.org Mon Mar 2 18:16:32 GMT 2009 <<< > > Hmm. I'm out of ideas - unless you're getting a lot of network > errors. Can > you check the network adapter stats AND the switch port? > > Randy Grein > Sr. Network Engineer > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] > Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 12:41 PM > To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' > Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses > contact > every 24 hours > > Hi and thanks again Randy! > Tried, same happen. Seems to that at weekends it work some 36 hours > and > weekdays 25. > More thanks, Alar. > >>>> Randy Grein RGrein at tpchd.org Thu Feb 26 17:23:37 GMT 2009 <<< > > > What jumps out at me is the nonreferenced delay time - 30 minutes is > a LONG > time. It's been a while since I've had to deal with a traditional > volume, > but try cutting it back to 30 seconds - you can always bump it back > up. I > seem to recall some odd things happening with directory cache buffer > exhaustion. > > Randy Grein > Sr. Network Engineer > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 5:48 PM > To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' > Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses > contact > every 24 hours > > Hi and thanks Randy! > > I'd load proxy with cc option on the second day, I think, when this > start to > happen ... some two weeks and few days ago. Right now proxy isn't > loaded for > week or so. In console log I see that just some bordermanager audit- > nlm is > autoloaded. > > Just for a case I add some parameters. May be You see something I > don't. > Machine is Pentium III 450 MHz (Intel motherboard), 3x256 Mb RAM > (was 3x128 > when this start to happen). Disk is 50 GB (sys, cache and cache1). > Five 3Com > NIC's. I'd replace memory, harddisk and power-supply. > > Original cache buffers 195891 > Total cache buffers 162941 > Long term cache hits (server up 9 hours) 67% and rising > Packet receive buffers 5000 (min 5000, max 10000) > Directory cache buffers 2051 (min 2000, max 5000) > > (When I normally restart server Directory cache buffers is about > 1500+, but > when it is restarted by force then it show 2000+.) > > Allocated memory pool 41529344 5% > Cache buffer memory 667406336 83% > Cache movable memory 0 0% > Cache non-movable memory 167936 0 > Code and data memory 93265920 12% > Total server work memory 804845568 100% > > Tuneup mostly with settings from Craig Johnson. > > Set Maximum Packet Receive Buffers = 10000 > Set Minimum Packet Receive Buffers = 5000 > Set New Packet Receive Buffer Wait Time = 0.1 sec > Set Maximum Interrupt Events = 50 > Set Garbage Collection Interval = 5 min > Set Read Ahead Enabled = on > Set Maximum Concurrent Disk Cache Writes = 750 > Set Dirty Disk Cache Delay Time = 0.1 sec > Set Dirty Directory Cache Delay Time = 0.1 sec > Set Maximum Concurrent Directory Cache Writes = 125 > Set Directory Cache Allocation Wait Time = 0.1 sec > Set Directory Cache Buffer NonReferenced delay = 30 min > Set Minimum Directory Cache Buffers = 2000 > Set Maximum Directory Cache Buffers = 5000 > Set Maximum Number of Internal Directory Handles = 500 > Set Immediate Purge of Deleted Files = on > Set Enable File Compression = off > Set Maximum File Locks = 100000 > Set Enable Hardware Write Back = on > Set Enable Disk Read After Write Verify = off > Set Worker Thread Execute In A Row Count = 15 > Set Pseudo Preemption Count = 200 > Set Minimum Service Processes = 200 > Set Maximum Service Processes = 500 > > More thanks, Alar. > >>>> Randy Grein RGrein at tpchd.org Thu Feb 26 15:31:29 GMT 2009 <<< > > One bare possibility occurs to me - have you cleared the proxy cache > on this > server yet? > > Randy Grein > Sr. Network Engineer > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 1:08 PM > To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' > Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses > contact > every 24 hours > > Hi again with still same problem! > I have from outside network two ping addresses -- server itself and > one > email server behind. First start failed ping to email server, ping > to server > from outside and inside failed some minute(s) after that. And then > console > from server does work, but ... restart from console not. No error > messages > or whatsoever. After restart server work ok some 24-25 hours and > same happen > again. > Yesterday we changed from one outside line to another, but probably > problem > lies not there. > Alar. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] > Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:47 PM > To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' > Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses > contactevery 24 hours > > Hi again! > Did change hard disk and also power supply! But ... same problem. > Interesting that after re(over)installing SP8 this time cycle did > change > from approximately from 24-25 hours to 34-35 hours! > I'm lost! > More thanks, Alar. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 12:07 PM > To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' > Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses > contactevery 24 hours > > Perhaps I must replace a hard disk? Could there be problems NetWare > can't > recognize? I mean, show errors? No error appear during copying all > files > from this disk, for backup. > Alar. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 11:38 AM > To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' > Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses > contactevery 24 hours > > Hi again! > Still. I'd reinstall SP8 and it hold on ... almost 36 hours and ... > lost > contact again! > Loaded (from console) is just dhcp and DNS. Could it be NDS- > related!? I > can't see any memory lost, but may be I didn't look the right place!? > Any further ideas? > More thanks, Alar. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] > Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:42 PM > To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' > Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses > contactevery 24 hours > > Hi again and thanks James! > I'm agree -- this our NW 5.1 with BM 3.6 on top of it has done very > good > job, indeed! But now I'm thinking replace it with special firewall > device > like NSA 2400 from Sonicwall etc. I'm not sure. But, anyway, I can't > do that > in middle of working period, may be at summer or so. If something > with this > server more bad does not happen, I hope not. > I'll wait until server does next unplanned stop as last day I'd > removed from > autoexec some SSL and FTP components still loaded with no use and > then try > to reinstall SP8. > More thanks, Alar. > >>>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Feb 18 >>>> 14:29:09 GMT > 2009 >>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > Yes. Also, pay attention to any post sp8 updates that may have been > applied. There may be some TCP updates since the original patch, so > you > want to make sure everything matches afterward. > > FYI - I'm still running both of my public DNS servers, with BM, on > NW65sp8. > I've had these servers (workstations, actually) running for over 7 > years, > and I need to update the hardware and replace then with linux > servers, but > they have been so rock solid, I hate to touch them. > > -jt > > > James Taylor > The East Cobb Group, Inc. > 678-697-9420 > james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com > http://www.eastcobbgroup.com > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] > Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 4:16 PM > To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' > Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses > contact > every 24 hours > > Hi again and thanks! > Well, that's something! > So, I just run SP8 again as I did it before? Probably I must change > tcpip > later back as it is for BM. > More thanks, Alar. > >>>> James Taylor James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Wed Feb 18 >>>> 13:43:31 GMT > 2009 <<< > > > Since this started occurring without any know related event, it may > be an > instance of file corruption somewhere. I have had strange, > intermittent > problems with no obvious cause that I have cured by reinstalling the > latest > support pack. It replaces a very large percentage of system files, > so there > is a good chance that, if there is a corrupted file, it will be > replaced. > It is a bit of a shotgun approach, but it doesn't usually take long > and > often works. > > -jt > > > James Taylor > The East Cobb Group, Inc. > 678-697-9420 > james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com > http://www.eastcobbgroup.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] > Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 12:58 PM > To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' > Subject: RE: NW 5.1 loose contact every 24 hours -- BM 3.6 looses > contact > every 24 hours > > Hi! > As no reply for this, I little bit rephrase my question! As no BM > stuff is > loaded anymore I wonder where to look when NetWare 5.1 SP8 start act > as > described below?! (Well, it start act so being loaded also with BM > stuff.) > This machine is first between outside world. Almost nothing is > loaded, just > NAT and filtering as it still acts like firewall. > And ... 24 hours and connection is broken, restart and again 24 hours. > Any ideas? > More thanks, Alar. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:37 AM > To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' > Subject: RE: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours > > Hi again! > 24 hours and it looses all network connectivity and need restart. > Sunday > morning I'd replace all memory pieces and add twice as much memory. > Also did > clean it inside, little bit dusty. Nothing helps. > Right now I see that directory cache buffers is by 34 over minimum > 1700, but > last time when I saw same and restart machine it decrease to 1110 or > so. > I have on server console just console, timesync debug screen, named, > dhcpsrvr debug screen, novell ssl server handshake screen and monitor. > Usually I have started brdsrv and inetcfg and filtcfg, nothing more. > What I'd when proxy start to show on client browsers memory error. > I'd add three add ip addresses (in autoexec) to allow direct > connection > between outside and inside worlds for one server and two as for > future. > Removed from autoexec tftp start, we don't use it anymore. And ... > nothing > more. > Any ideas? > More thanks, > Alar. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] > Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 3:49 PM > To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' > Subject: BM 3.6 looses contact every 24 hours > > Hi! > BM 3.6 SP2a, NW 5.1 SP8. Started last Monday our BM server start to > behave > oddly. First we noticed that internet access via BM proxy start show > "Status > : 500 Internal Server Error -- Description : Novell Proxy Memory > Allocation > error". After I'd restart server (change almost nothing, add few NAT > addresses I have planned, this requires restart) it did work almost > exactly > 24 hours and ... we did lost connection to it. So few days. Exactly 24 > hours. On server side it did work (console was ok) and I could note > Monitor > info etc., but on restart attempt from console it didn't restart - > console > hung -, but in other way was accessible for open programs from > console. I > have to push the button. And ... 24 and same. It did work 310 days > before > that and years before that wo any major problems. > Any ideas to start for looking some numbers from console. I tried, > but for > me it shows almost ... normal. Didn't start brdsrv (incl. proxy) > anymore and > same happen, few hours later than 24 hours running. > Any help is greatly appreciated. > More thanks, Alar. > See also threads > http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-prox > > ies/359814-novell-proxy-memory-allocation-error.html > http://forums.novell.com/novell-product-support-forums/bordermanager/bm-inst > > all-setup/360651-bm-3-6-looses-access-every-24-hours-so.html > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > **************************************************************************** > ********* > This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and > privileged > information. It has been scanned for viruses. If you are not the > intended > recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, > delete > this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination, use, review, > disclosure, or distribution of this information by a person other > than the > intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. > **************************************************************************** > ********** > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From cmangiarelli at gmail.com Fri Mar 13 18:25:08 2009 From: cmangiarelli at gmail.com (Christopher Mangiarelli) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:25:08 -0400 Subject: OES2SP1 Upgrade gone slightly sour - Problems with X+Yast In-Reply-To: <49B63309.9020106@oucs.ox.ac.uk> References: <49B547EB.7080908@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <59AE0EEB-1BCA-4145-9DB7-9E9D79B2FC95@yahoo.com> <49B63309.9020106@oucs.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: The previous admin didn't have LUM configured properly. I removed the existing Unix workstation and Unix profile objects. Using OES Install and Config, I told LUM to reconfigure. I provided the new information for these objects. It created them in eDirectory, but the config file still had them listed in the old contexts. Once I edited the file and changed them to the proper context, the OES Install and Config part of the LUM install would finish. I don't know why it wouldn't rewrite the file with those changes I made. However, all is well now with LUM However I have a new problem. Some patches seem to be broken. I see dependency issues which I don't know how to resolve. My other OES Servers generally never have these problems. This server was not built by me so I'm flying blind as to its history. Any idea's where I can start to look? I'm including a screenshot to show you what I see in YOU. On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Joe Doupnik wrote: > Christopher Mangiarelli wrote: > >> I figured it out, an old /etc/nam.conf file was in place that didn't jive >> with the new settings and the GUI OES Install and Config is not >> intelligent >> enough to bypass it. Swapping to the namconfig command in a terminal >> window >> pointed out the error which I was able to clear up. >> >> Tested LUM through the NRM and it's working which I think means owcimomd >> is >> working too. >> >> I'm having patching issues now though, but gonna give it my best first >> before bothering people again. >> >> --------------- > Nam wants to be its own source of intelligence, not be a mere > copy-cat > of things, because it will save its cache to a disk file across reboots. To > cause > it to quickly relearn things from NDS use command > namconfig cache_refresh > See /etc/nam.conf for configuration details; it is short. However, > that file > needs no adjustment because of an in-place upgrade. Thus you likely did > something else > to result in a new source of LDAP information. See also namconfig -k to > refresh its > certificate info. > Joe D. > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > -- Christopher Mangiarelli cmangiarelli at gmail.com From jrd at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk Sat Mar 14 11:08:55 2009 From: jrd at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk (jrd) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 11:08:55 +0000 Subject: OES2SP1 Upgrade gone slightly sour - Problems with X+Yast In-Reply-To: References: <49B547EB.7080908@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <59AE0EEB-1BCA-4145-9DB7-9E9D79B2FC95@yahoo.com> <49B63309.9020106@oucs.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: <49BB9047.7060708@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Christopher Mangiarelli wrote: > The previous admin didn't have LUM configured properly. I removed the > existing Unix workstation and Unix profile objects. Using OES Install and > Config, I told LUM to reconfigure. I provided the new information for these > objects. It created them in eDirectory, but the config file still had them > listed in the old contexts. Once I edited the file and changed them to the > proper context, the OES Install and Config part of the LUM install would > finish. I don't know why it wouldn't rewrite the file with those changes I > made. However, all is well now with LUM > > However I have a new problem. Some patches seem to be broken. I see > dependency issues which I don't know how to resolve. My other OES Servers > generally never have these problems. This server was not built by me so I'm > flying blind as to its history. Any idea's where I can start to look? I'm > including a screenshot to show you what I see in YOU. > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Joe Doupnik wrote: > > A good place to step backward to earlier versions is YaST, Software Maintenance, but this time look at say Patterns and the right panel showing individual RPMs. Highlight an RPM, go down to its Versions tab and see what is avaiable. To back up I often push the radio button for an older version then at the RPM click until the Z icon appears. When even that does not work I unstall the RPM and while still in YaST repeat the radio button selection and say install again. Whatever works on your box. Joe D. From joea at j4computers.com Sat Mar 14 10:49:28 2009 From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 06:49:28 -0400 Subject: OES2SP1 Upgrade gone slightly sour - Problems with X+Yast In-Reply-To: References: <49B547EB.7080908@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <59AE0EEB-1BCA-4145-9DB7-9E9D79B2FC95@yahoo.com> <49B63309.9020106@oucs.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: <49BB5378020000850005F771@FS-LIN-OES> . . . > However I have a new problem. Some patches seem to be broken. I see > dependency issues which I don't know how to resolve. My other OES Servers > generally never have these problems. This server was not built by me so I'm > flying blind as to its history. Any idea's where I can start to look? I'm > including a screenshot to show you what I see in YOU. > I don't know if this will help, but I have seen weird issues when more than one rpm was "installed". Not possible, in reality, it is said, but "rpm -qa |grep base-package" (no digits) showed more than one. IIRC, this had to do with edirectory updates. Hmm. Anyway, doing rpm-e for the "old" package (or both, don't recall) and redoing the install seemed to help things. YMMV. joe a. From MollardM at mbc.qld.edu.au Mon Mar 16 05:18:45 2009 From: MollardM at mbc.qld.edu.au (Michael Mollard) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:18:45 +1000 Subject: Group Policies issue (ZDF7) Message-ID: <49BE6DD5.E927.0018.0@mbc.qld.edu.au> Hi all, This is a XP issue, but since Group Policies are implemented by ZFD7, I thought I'd ask here. We have a basic GP for staff that does things like set the autoproxy to on (and locks it down). If I run up a clean XP build, the GP is applied perfectly. However some staff with existing DLU account profiles are not receiving the policy no matter what I try. RSOP on the box says that the AutoProxy isn't set. Effective policies says that the GP is associated .. Any pointers to where I should be looking, or does this sound familiar to anyone. 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The contents of this message are provided without responsibility in law for their accuracy or otherwise, and without assumption of a duty of care by the School. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jetadmin at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 17:42:33 2009 From: jetadmin at gmail.com (Eric Rothweiler) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:42:33 -0400 Subject: Dynamic DNS In-Reply-To: <49AE9D90.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> References: <20090303192234.bcoep846gw4wo04o@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> <49ACFF3902000072000007CA@mail2.tpchd.org> <49AD7436.8050204@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <20090303205322.umjn1yc7k8g44sss@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> <49AD84D9.10700@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <49AE56D2.80305@cam.ac.uk> <49AE9D90.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> Message-ID: <1d6cdac70903161042t48ecbd50j66ba0a008b163b55@mail.gmail.com> Search domains can be handed out via DHCP - not sloppy at all and if done via DHCP not manual. DHCP option 119 according to RFC3397. Eric On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Scott Etienne wrote: > For a while now, we have had DDNS turned off because static records would often get overwritten by DHCP when an MS server would initially get a DHCP address before realizing that it had already assigned to it a static address. This of course would cause considerable pain until we would discover the problem requiring manual intervention to delete the errant record and re-create the desired record in the DNS database. > > Some time ago, I had submitted this question to the list, and had various responses including some that looked quite helpful. One of them suggested putting the DDNS in it's own domain, to shield the important resources from this problem. I never asked, but assumed that there would a problem for someone who wanted to use short-named / host-name-only access from the DDNS workstations to the servers that were in a separate domain. The only work around I know for this would be if you manually entered additional search suffixes on the Windows workstations, which is a sloppy way of dealing with it. > > Does anyone have a better way of dealing with this DDNS issue or are there any recent fixes? > > Thank you, > > Scott Etienne > Network Engineer > Enesco, LLC > setienne at enesco.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > From cmangiarelli at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 20:43:59 2009 From: cmangiarelli at gmail.com (Christopher Mangiarelli) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:43:59 -0400 Subject: OES2SP1 Upgrade gone slightly sour - Problems with X+Yast In-Reply-To: <49BB5378020000850005F771@FS-LIN-OES> References: <49B547EB.7080908@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <59AE0EEB-1BCA-4145-9DB7-9E9D79B2FC95@yahoo.com> <49B63309.9020106@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <49BB5378020000850005F771@FS-LIN-OES> Message-ID: I appreciate the help. I was a little confused as to what directions to follow. I was trying to follow along Joe D's line of thinking but most of the screens were just blank. Where I did see a package dependency option, the latest was listed as installed and working. I looked in the rpm database for duplicate packages per Joe A and didn't find any for those listed in my screenshot. In the end I found this TID ( http://www.novell.com/support/viewContent.do?externalId=3132147&sliceId=1) which seemed to describe my problem. I performed the case 2 remediation steps and moved the files in the zypp/db/patches to a temp folder. YOU started up, didn't complain about missing dependencies and I was able apply the remaining patches successfully. All looks well now and it's back into the cluster and seems to be happy. Only time will tell. Gratz me on my first OES2SP1+SLES10SP2 upgrade! :) On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 6:49 AM, joea at j4computers.com wrote: > I don't know if this will help, but I have seen weird issues when more than > one rpm was "installed". Not possible, in reality, it is said, but "rpm > -qa |grep base-package" (no digits) showed more than one. > > IIRC, this had to do with edirectory updates. Hmm. Anyway, doing rpm-e > for the "old" package (or both, don't recall) and redoing the install seemed > to help things. > > YMMV. > > joe a. > -- Christopher Mangiarelli cmangiarelli at gmail.com From joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk Mon Mar 16 21:07:23 2009 From: joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk (jrd) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:07:23 +0000 Subject: OES2SP1 Upgrade gone slightly sour - Problems with X+Yast In-Reply-To: References: <49B547EB.7080908@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <59AE0EEB-1BCA-4145-9DB7-9E9D79B2FC95@yahoo.com> <49B63309.9020106@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <49BB5378020000850005F771@FS-LIN-OES> Message-ID: <49BEBF8B.9090300@oucs.ox.ac.uk> Christopher Mangiarelli wrote: > I appreciate the help. I was a little confused as to what directions to > follow. I was trying to follow along Joe D's line of thinking but most of > the screens were just blank. Where I did see a package dependency option, > the latest was listed as installed and working. > > I looked in the rpm database for duplicate packages per Joe A and didn't > find any for those listed in my screenshot. > > In the end I found this TID ( > http://www.novell.com/support/viewContent.do?externalId=3132147&sliceId=1) > which seemed to describe my problem. I performed the case 2 remediation > steps and moved the files in the zypp/db/patches to a temp folder. YOU > started up, didn't complain about missing dependencies and I was able apply > the remaining patches successfully. All looks well now and it's back into > the cluster and seems to be happy. Only time will tell. > > Gratz me on my first OES2SP1+SLES10SP2 upgrade! :) > > On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 6:49 AM, joea at j4computers.com > wrote: > >> I don't know if this will help, but I have seen weird issues when more than >> one rpm was "installed". Not possible, in reality, it is said, but "rpm >> -qa |grep base-package" (no digits) showed more than one. >> >> IIRC, this had to do with edirectory updates. Hmm. Anyway, doing rpm-e >> for the "old" package (or both, don't recall) and redoing the install seemed >> to help things. >> >> YMMV. >> >> joe a. >> > -------------- I have a sneaking feeling here of two possibilities at work on your system. One is if you had ever used zypp to patch the system, which is a natural thing to try but alas unwise. The other is suspicions about the on line update YaST/GUI material. My own manner of dealing with patches is to use command line rug alone, not zypper, not YaST. Overall, the patch business is a muddle, and it is getting worse. Joe D. From cmangiarelli at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 21:28:28 2009 From: cmangiarelli at gmail.com (Christopher Mangiarelli) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:28:28 -0400 Subject: OES2SP1 Upgrade gone slightly sour - Problems with X+Yast In-Reply-To: <49BEBF8B.9090300@oucs.ox.ac.uk> References: <59AE0EEB-1BCA-4145-9DB7-9E9D79B2FC95@yahoo.com> <49B63309.9020106@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <49BB5378020000850005F771@FS-LIN-OES> <49BEBF8B.9090300@oucs.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: The machine was originally a SLES9/OES1 server. It was originally patched using the rug command line. When I left this account, the other admin apparently upgraded it to SLES10/OES2. I don't know how he patched it. When I came back on the account, I had to fly blind. I find YOU easy to use and when I've worked with Novell Tech Support they've had me use it too so I've stuck with what I knew worked. Based on what I've read, I'm afraid to swap between the two. I wish they would work this nightmare out. Patching on SLES9 was horrible. I dreaded applying patches back then (and I still have some SLES9/OES1 stuff). YOU has never let me down on any of the servers I've built fresh. This one was my first upgrade. On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 5:07 PM, jrd wrote: > I have a sneaking feeling here of two possibilities at work on your > system. One is if you had ever used zypp to patch the system, which is a > natural thing to try but alas unwise. The other is suspicions about the on > line update YaST/GUI material. My own manner of dealing with patches is to > use command line rug alone, not zypper, not YaST. > Overall, the patch business is a muddle, and it is getting worse. > > Joe D. > -- Christopher Mangiarelli cmangiarelli at gmail.com From HPfeil at uca.edu Tue Mar 17 13:17:20 2009 From: HPfeil at uca.edu (Hans Pfeil) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:17:20 -0500 Subject: XEN sles10 or OES2 Message-ID: <49BF5C90.6010.00BD.0@uca.edu> Hey all, Just wondering what the best option for the placement of a XEN host server. Should I just make it a SLES10sp2 XEN host box and then put my OES2sp1 guest servers in our tree. Or, make the XEN host an OES2sp1 box and put it in our tree right along with the guest servers. Or, does it make a difference? Thanks Hans From smf34 at cam.ac.uk Tue Mar 17 13:23:33 2009 From: smf34 at cam.ac.uk (Simon Flood) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:23:33 +0000 Subject: XEN sles10 or OES2 In-Reply-To: <49BF5C90.6010.00BD.0@uca.edu> References: <49BF5C90.6010.00BD.0@uca.edu> Message-ID: <49BFA455.4000801@cam.ac.uk> On 17/03/2009 13:17, Hans Pfeil wrote: > Just wondering what the best option for the placement of a XEN host server. Should I just make it a SLES10sp2 XEN host box and then put my OES2sp1 guest servers in our tree. Or, make the XEN host an OES2sp1 box and put it in our tree right along with the guest servers. Or, does it make a difference? I don't think Novell support OES2 as a XEN host so my advice would be use SLES10 SP2 for your XEN host and then have OES2 as one of the guests. Hope this helps, Simon From Mark.Robinson at nds8.co.uk Tue Mar 17 13:49:01 2009 From: Mark.Robinson at nds8.co.uk (Mark Robinson) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:49:01 +0000 Subject: XEN sles10 or OES2 In-Reply-To: <49BFA455.4000801@cam.ac.uk> References: <49BF5C90.6010.00BD.0@uca.edu> <49BFA455.4000801@cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: <49BFAA4D020000AD00021C99@mail2.nds8.com> Actually, it is supported, but only for a restricted set of services: eDir SMS NCS This is basically to enable you to use NCS+XEN. If you try and install anything else, YaST should stop you because the unsupported pattern combinations have vetos withing them... I reckon you would be better using straight SLES anyway as you want to keep the hypervisor layer as skinny as possible... HTH Mark ---------------------------- Mark Robinson NDS8 Novell Platinum Solution Provider Mobile: +44 (0) 7900 570 400 Office: +44 (0) 131 538 8202 Fax: +44 (0) 131 453 6522 www.nds8.co.uk >>> On Tuesday, 17 March, 2009 at 1:23 PM, in message <49BFA455.4000801 at cam.ac.uk>, Simon Flood wrote: > On 17/03/2009 13:17, Hans Pfeil wrote: > > > Just wondering what the best option for the placement of a XEN host server. > Should I just make it a SLES10sp2 XEN host box and then put my OES2sp1 guest > servers in our tree. Or, make the XEN host an OES2sp1 box and put it in our > tree right along with the guest servers. Or, does it make a difference? > > I don't think Novell support OES2 as a XEN host so my advice would be > use SLES10 SP2 for your XEN host and then have OES2 as one of the guests. > > Hope this helps, > Simon > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > ***Scanned by M+ Guardian*** > > The information contained in this email is intended for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. You should not copy, retain, forward or disclose its contents to anyone else, or take any action based upon it, if it is not addressed to you personally. If the message is received by anyone other than the addressee, please notify the sender and delete the message. NDS8 does not accept responsibility for changes made to this message after it was sent. Whilst all reasonable care has been taken to avoid the transmission of viruses, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that the onward transmission, opening or use of this message and any attachments will not adversely affect its systems or data. From HPfeil at uca.edu Tue Mar 17 13:53:24 2009 From: HPfeil at uca.edu (Hans Pfeil) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:53:24 -0500 Subject: XEN sles10 or OES2 In-Reply-To: <49BFA455.4000801@cam.ac.uk> References: <49BF5C90.6010.00BD.0@uca.edu> <49BFA455.4000801@cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: <49BF6505.6010.00BD.0@uca.edu> Hey Simon, You sure can. Here is a snippet from Novell's Documentation, OES2sp1 Linux Installation Guide, ch9, pg 161 dated 9 Jan 09. I was just wondering what the community was doing. You can install Novell? Open Enterprise Server (OES) 2 SP1 Linux as a Xen VM host server. To understand why you might want your VM host server to have OES 2 SP1 installed, see ?Why Install OES Services on Your VM Host?? in the OES 2 SP1: Planning and Implementation Guide. >>> Simon Flood 3/17/2009 8:23 AM >>> On 17/03/2009 13:17, Hans Pfeil wrote: > Just wondering what the best option for the placement of a XEN host server. Should I just make it a SLES10sp2 XEN host box and then put my OES2sp1 guest servers in our tree. Or, make the XEN host an OES2sp1 box and put it in our tree right along with the guest servers. Or, does it make a difference? I don't think Novell support OES2 as a XEN host so my advice would be use SLES10 SP2 for your XEN host and then have OES2 as one of the guests. Hope this helps, Simon _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From Setienne at enesco.com Wed Mar 18 14:16:22 2009 From: Setienne at enesco.com (Scott Etienne) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 09:16:22 -0500 Subject: Dynamic DNS In-Reply-To: <1d6cdac70903161042t48ecbd50j66ba0a008b163b55@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090303192234.bcoep846gw4wo04o@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> <49ACFF3902000072000007CA@mail2.tpchd.org> <49AD7436.8050204@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <20090303205322.umjn1yc7k8g44sss@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> <49AD84D9.10700@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <49AE56D2.80305@cam.ac.uk> <49AE9D90.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> <1d6cdac70903161042t48ecbd50j66ba0a008b163b55@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49C0BBE6.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> Ah ha!. Very good. Thanks! Thank you, Scott Etienne Network Engineer Enesco, LLC setienne at enesco.com >>> On 3/16/2009 at 12:42 PM, in message <1d6cdac70903161042t48ecbd50j66ba0a008b163b55 at mail.gmail.com>, Eric Rothweiler wrote: Search domains can be handed out via DHCP - not sloppy at all and if done via DHCP not manual. DHCP option 119 according to RFC3397. Eric On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Scott Etienne wrote: > For a while now, we have had DDNS turned off because static records would often get overwritten by DHCP when an MS server would initially get a DHCP address before realizing that it had already assigned to it a static address. This of course would cause considerable pain until we would discover the problem requiring manual intervention to delete the errant record and re-create the desired record in the DNS database. > > Some time ago, I had submitted this question to the list, and had various responses including some that looked quite helpful. One of them suggested putting the DDNS in it's own domain, to shield the important resources from this problem. I never asked, but assumed that there would a problem for someone who wanted to use short-named / host-name-only access from the DDNS workstations to the servers that were in a separate domain. The only work around I know for this would be if you manually entered additional search suffixes on the Windows workstations, which is a sloppy way of dealing with it. > > Does anyone have a better way of dealing with this DDNS issue or are there any recent fixes? > > Thank you, > > Scott Etienne > Network Engineer > Enesco, LLC > setienne at enesco.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From Setienne at enesco.com Wed Mar 18 14:55:04 2009 From: Setienne at enesco.com (Scott Etienne) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 09:55:04 -0500 Subject: OES2 DNS loading problems In-Reply-To: <1d6cdac70903161042t48ecbd50j66ba0a008b163b55@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090303192234.bcoep846gw4wo04o@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> <49ACFF3902000072000007CA@mail2.tpchd.org> <49AD7436.8050204@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <20090303205322.umjn1yc7k8g44sss@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> <49AD84D9.10700@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <49AE56D2.80305@cam.ac.uk> <49AE9D90.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> <1d6cdac70903161042t48ecbd50j66ba0a008b163b55@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49C0C4F8.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> Below is what happens when I try to issue a rcnovell-named reload. I don't find anything on the website. The server is OES2. encutil2:~ # rcnovell-named reload Reloading name server BIND rndc: connection to remote host closed This may indicate that the remote server is using an older version of the command protocol, this host is not authorized to connect, or the key is invalid. failed encutil2:~ # rcnovell-named reload Reloading name server BIND - Warning: novell-named not running! failed encutil2:~ # rcnovell-named status Checking for nameserver BIND dead encutil2:~ # rcnovell-named restart Shutting down name server BIND - Warning: novell-named not running! done Starting name server BIND - Warning: /var/opt/novell/run/named/named.pid exists! done Thank you, Scott Etienne Network Engineer Enesco, LLC setienne at enesco.com From Setienne at enesco.com Wed Mar 18 15:04:38 2009 From: Setienne at enesco.com (Scott Etienne) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:04:38 -0500 Subject: OES2 DNS loading problems In-Reply-To: <49C0C4F8.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> References: <20090303192234.bcoep846gw4wo04o@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> <49ACFF3902000072000007CA@mail2.tpchd.org> <49AD7436.8050204@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <20090303205322.umjn1yc7k8g44sss@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> <49AD84D9.10700@oucs.ox.ac.uk> <49AE56D2.80305@cam.ac.uk> <49AE9D90.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> <1d6cdac70903161042t48ecbd50j66ba0a008b163b55@mail.gmail.com> <49C0C4F8.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> Message-ID: <49C0C736.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> I thought it might be complaining about the .pid file and so deleted it (instead of just renaming or moving it--dumb) and found that this did not fix the problem and now rebooting no longer fixes the problem. >>> On 3/18/2009 at 9:55 AM, in message <49C0C4F8.8A77.004D.0 at enesco.com>, "Scott Etienne" wrote: Below is what happens when I try to issue a rcnovell-named reload. I don't find anything on the website. The server is OES2. encutil2:~ # rcnovell-named reload Reloading name server BIND rndc: connection to remote host closed This may indicate that the remote server is using an older version of the command protocol, this host is not authorized to connect, or the key is invalid. failed encutil2:~ # rcnovell-named reload Reloading name server BIND - Warning: novell-named not running! failed encutil2:~ # rcnovell-named status Checking for nameserver BIND dead encutil2:~ # rcnovell-named restart Shutting down name server BIND - Warning: novell-named not running! done Starting name server BIND - Warning: /var/opt/novell/run/named/named.pid exists! done Thank you, Scott Etienne Network Engineer Enesco, LLC setienne at enesco.com _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From Renee at wfse.org Fri Mar 20 21:02:28 2009 From: Renee at wfse.org (Renee Hunter) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:02:28 -0700 Subject: Move to 6.5/Open Office Message-ID: ** High Priority ** Planning a move to OpenOfficeSuite (GW8 and Zen7, possibly including Teaming+Conferencing) and putting on its own Netware 6.5 server. Looking for a recommendation on memory, RAID, and processors (1 or 2) and any other input. Thanks! Rene? Hunter, Information/Network Systems Administrator Washington Federation of State Employees 1212 Jefferson St SE, Ste 300 Olympia, WA 98501-2332 360-352-7603 X646 From Robrinsky at roillc.com Fri Mar 20 21:43:07 2009 From: Robrinsky at roillc.com (Robert Obrinsky) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:43:07 -0700 Subject: Move to 6.5/Open Office In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49C3AB7B.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com> Renee, Teaming and Conferencing is Linux only - at least I think it is - I haven't had the opportunity to implement it myself. If you are going to put Groupwise on its own Netware 6.5 server, I wouldn't expect that you would see much benefit from using multiple processors, especially since you will probably be getting a dual core (at a minimum) processor to start with. Generally with Netware, I would not go above 4GB of RAM, and these days I would not install less than 2GB. As for your disk array, there are a lot of variables to consider and others are much more qualified to answer this. How much storage do you need? Will you be using a SAN? How heavy is the workload on the server? What is your budget? I think we see an improvement in performance of RAID 5 as you increase the number of disks. RAID 10 is fast, but expensive because you are cutting your storage in half in order to implement it. Perhaps Randy Grein (I think it's Randy) can offer better guidance here. Robert W. Obrinsky President Robert Obrinsky Industries, LLC 1908 SE 45th Avenue Portland, OR 97215 503.719.4387 (Office) 203.273.7012 (Mobile) >>> "Renee Hunter" 3/20/2009 2:02 PM >>> ** High Priority ** Planning a move to OpenOfficeSuite (GW8 and Zen7, possibly including Teaming+Conferencing) and putting on its own Netware 6.5 server. Looking for a recommendation on memory, RAID, and processors (1 or 2) and any other input. Thanks! Rene? Hunter, Information/Network Systems Administrator Washington Federation of State Employees 1212 Jefferson St SE, Ste 300 Olympia, WA 98501-2332 360-352-7603 X646 _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From smf34 at cam.ac.uk Fri Mar 20 21:49:06 2009 From: smf34 at cam.ac.uk (Simon Flood) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 21:49:06 +0000 Subject: Move to 6.5/Open Office In-Reply-To: <49C3AB7B.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com> References: <49C3AB7B.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com> Message-ID: <49C40F52.2040509@cam.ac.uk> On 20/03/2009 21:43, Robert Obrinsky wrote: > Teaming and Conferencing is Linux only - at least I think it is - I > haven't had the opportunity to implement it myself. Teaming is Linux or Windows whilst Conferencing is Linux only. Simon From Renee at wfse.org Fri Mar 20 21:56:28 2009 From: Renee at wfse.org (Renee Hunter) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:56:28 -0700 Subject: Move to 6.5/Open Office Message-ID: You're right about TandC needing to be on Linux so will be putting that on another server. Yes, I am looking at a dual core processor (HP DL320 G5 - 3 500GB hard drives with one spare). Also, planning to use GWAVA Retain and Reload on a Linux server. >>> Robrinsky at roillc.com 3/20/2009 2:43 PM >>> Renee, Teaming and Conferencing is Linux only - at least I think it is - I haven't had the opportunity to implement it myself. If you are going to put Groupwise on its own Netware 6.5 server, I wouldn't expect that you would see much benefit from using multiple processors, especially since you will probably be getting a dual core (at a minimum) processor to start with. Generally with Netware, I would not go above 4GB of RAM, and these days I would not install less than 2GB. As for your disk array, there are a lot of variables to consider and others are much more qualified to answer this. How much storage do you need? Will you be using a SAN? How heavy is the workload on the server? What is your budget? I think we see an improvement in performance of RAID 5 as you increase the number of disks. RAID 10 is fast, but expensive because you are cutting your storage in half in order to implement it. Perhaps Randy Grein (I think it's Randy) can offer better guidance here. Robert W. Obrinsky President Robert Obrinsky Industries, LLC 1908 SE 45th Avenue Portland, OR 97215 503.719.4387 (Office) 203.273.7012 (Mobile) >>> "Renee Hunter" 3/20/2009 2:02 PM >>> ** High Priority ** Planning a move to OpenOfficeSuite (GW8 and Zen7, possibly including Teaming+Conferencing) and putting on its own Netware 6.5 server. Looking for a recommendation on memory, RAID, and processors (1 or 2) and any other input. Thanks! Rene? Hunter, Information/Network Systems Administrator Washington Federation of State Employees 1212 Jefferson St SE, Ste 300 Olympia, WA 98501-2332 360-352-7603 X646 _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From Robrinsky at roillc.com Fri Mar 20 22:04:50 2009 From: Robrinsky at roillc.com (Robert Obrinsky) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:04:50 -0700 Subject: Move to 6.5/Open Office In-Reply-To: <49C40F52.2040509@cam.ac.uk> References: <49C3AB7B.9F9C.006D.0@roillc.com> <49C40F52.2040509@cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: <49C3B0920200006D0002EA4D@roi-03.roillc.com> Thanks for the correction - I don't know how I forgot Windows! >>> Simon Flood 3/20/2009 2:49 PM >>> On 20/03/2009 21:43, Robert Obrinsky wrote: > Teaming and Conferencing is Linux only - at least I think it is - I > haven't had the opportunity to implement it myself. Teaming is Linux or Windows whilst Conferencing is Linux only. Simon _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From joea at j4computers.com Sat Mar 21 10:57:57 2009 From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 06:57:57 -0400 Subject: Move to 6.5/Open Office In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49C48FF5020000850005F830@FS-LIN-OES> >>> On 3/20/2009 at 5:02 PM, "Renee Hunter" wrote: > ** High Priority ** > > Planning a move to OpenOfficeSuite (GW8 and Zen7, possibly including > Teaming+Conferencing) and putting on its own Netware 6.5 server. > > Looking for a recommendation on memory, RAID, and processors (1 or 2) and > any other input. Since t&c will be going on Linux, why bother setting up NetWare at all? joe a. From randygrein at comcast.net Sat Mar 21 13:34:38 2009 From: randygrein at comcast.net (Randy Grein) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 06:34:38 -0700 Subject: Move to 6.5/Open Office In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You've probably heard me say this before Renee, but a 3 drive RAID system will be 50% faster than a mirrored pair but with only 2/3 the write speed. I've had to upgrade a number of systems where performance appears adequate initially only to fall flat during significant events - incoming mail floods, system restores, database maintenance, etc. By acceptable I mean unusable, and the window of unusable can be however long the hogging process takes. Save yourself some grief, get an extra drive and configure them as RAID 10. Read performance will be 1/3 faster than your proposed system but writes will be 3 times faster. Like the idea of using Retain & Reload. We used Reload for a while, but the boss insisted we put it on some unsupported junk we couldn't keep running. When the hardware worked it was great; I'd get it again in a heartbeat. Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA On Mar 20, 2009, at 2:56 PM, Renee Hunter wrote: > You're right about TandC needing to be on Linux so will be putting > that on another server. > > Yes, I am looking at a dual core processor (HP DL320 G5 - 3 500GB > hard drives with one spare). > > Also, planning to use GWAVA Retain and Reload on a Linux server. > > > >>>> Robrinsky at roillc.com 3/20/2009 2:43 PM >>> > Renee, > > Teaming and Conferencing is Linux only - at least I think it is - I > haven't had the opportunity to implement it myself. > > If you are going to put Groupwise on its own Netware 6.5 server, I > wouldn't expect that you would see much benefit from using multiple > processors, especially since you will probably be getting a dual core > (at a minimum) processor to start with. Generally with Netware, I > would > not go above 4GB of RAM, and these days I would not install less than > 2GB. > > As for your disk array, there are a lot of variables to consider and > others are much more qualified to answer this. How much storage do you > need? Will you be using a SAN? How heavy is the workload on the > server? > What is your budget? I think we see an improvement in performance of > RAID 5 as you increase the number of disks. RAID 10 is fast, but > expensive because you are cutting your storage in half in order to > implement it. Perhaps Randy Grein (I think it's Randy) can offer > better > guidance here. > > Robert W. Obrinsky > President > Robert Obrinsky Industries, LLC > 1908 SE 45th Avenue > Portland, OR 97215 > 503.719.4387 (Office) > 203.273.7012 (Mobile) > > >>>> "Renee Hunter" 3/20/2009 2:02 PM >>> > ** High Priority ** > > Planning a move to OpenOfficeSuite (GW8 and Zen7, possibly including > Teaming+Conferencing) and putting on its own Netware 6.5 server. > > Looking for a recommendation on memory, RAID, and processors (1 or 2) > and any other input. > > Thanks! > > Rene? Hunter, Information/Network Systems Administrator > Washington Federation of State Employees > 1212 Jefferson St SE, Ste 300 > Olympia, WA 98501-2332 > 360-352-7603 X646 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From joea at j4computers.com Sat Mar 21 15:20:56 2009 From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:20:56 -0400 Subject: Certificate export error Message-ID: <49C4CD98020000850005F83A@FS-LIN-OES> When trying to create user certs, via Novell CA, expecting to be able to test using certs with GW, Logged in as user, selecting user in C1 and attempting to export cert: "Error trying to establish tree name for private key and certificate api -1261 the key failed." Found TID 10080311 which addresses the problem, but it does not explain very much. Such as "what rights" Gave user S right to the certificate object all rights, entry rights, same problem. ??? joe a. From joea at j4computers.com Sat Mar 21 21:27:22 2009 From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:27:22 -0400 Subject: Certificate export error In-Reply-To: <49C4CD98020000850005F83A@FS-LIN-OES> References: <49C4CD98020000850005F83A@FS-LIN-OES> Message-ID: <49C5237A020000850005F84C@FS-LIN-OES> >>> On 3/21/2009 at 11:20 AM, "joea at j4computers.com" wrote: > When trying to create user certs, via Novell CA, expecting to be able to > test using certs with GW, > > Logged in as user, selecting user in C1 and attempting to export cert: > > "Error trying to establish tree name for private key and certificate api > -1261 > the key failed." > > Found TID 10080311 which addresses the problem, but it does not explain very > much. Such as "what rights" Gave user S right to the certificate object all > rights, entry rights, same problem. > > ??? > > joe a. Resolved. Both eDirectory replicas on VM boxes. Timesync was way off, with timestamp issues. Fixed that (for now ?) and cert creation worked as it should. joe a. From joea at j4computers.com Sun Mar 22 02:42:18 2009 From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 22:42:18 -0400 Subject: Vmware tools, time fubar Message-ID: <49C56D4A020000850005F851@FS-LIN-OES> Finding time on a virtualized nw6.5 box, way, way, off, notice vmware tools seems to be a problem. Without this loaded, can say "time" at server console several times, and seconds appear to tick off in a reasonable manner. With vmware tools loaded, virtual seconds seem to be ticking off one per ten or so real seconds. so, with vmware tools unloaded did ntpdate mytimeserver, then xntpd. All seems OK, but timesync never seems to get synced, between the NW box and a virtualized OES1 linux box. The linux box, oddly, seems to be keeping time just fine. joe a. From James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Sun Mar 22 02:55:11 2009 From: James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com (James Taylor) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 22:55:11 -0400 Subject: Vmware tools, time fubar In-Reply-To: <49C56D4A020000850005F851@FS-LIN-OES> References: <49C56D4A020000850005F851@FS-LIN-OES> Message-ID: <49C5704F020000750002DBA0@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> If you run the GUI on the server, you get a menu item for vmware tools. You can use this to set the guest to sync to the host time. Have you done this? Also, I have found that timesync is a much better method of reliably syncing time for a NW guest in vmware than xntpd. -jt James Taylor The East Cobb Group, Inc. 678-697-9420 james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com http://www.eastcobbgroup.com >>> "joea at j4computers.com" 3/21/2009 10:42 PM >>> Finding time on a virtualized nw6.5 box, way, way, off, notice vmware tools seems to be a problem. Without this loaded, can say "time" at server console several times, and seconds appear to tick off in a reasonable manner. With vmware tools loaded, virtual seconds seem to be ticking off one per ten or so real seconds. so, with vmware tools unloaded did ntpdate mytimeserver, then xntpd. All seems OK, but timesync never seems to get synced, between the NW box and a virtualized OES1 linux box. The linux box, oddly, seems to be keeping time just fine. joe a. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From tom.anstey at imm.ox.ac.uk Sun Mar 22 08:51:17 2009 From: tom.anstey at imm.ox.ac.uk (Tom Anstey) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:51:17 -0000 Subject: Vmware tools, time fubar In-Reply-To: <49C5704F020000750002DBA0@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> References: <49C56D4A020000850005F851@FS-LIN-OES>, <49C5704F020000750002DBA0@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> Message-ID: <49C5FC05.29955.351BDFF@tom.anstey.imm.ox.ac.uk> On 21 Mar 2009 at 22:55, James Taylor wrote: > If you run the GUI on the server, you get a menu item for vmware tools. You can use this to set the guest to sync to the host time. > Have you done this? > Also, I have found that timesync is a much better method of reliably syncing time for a NW guest in vmware than xntpd. > -jt Agreed - especially when the server is under any load. Whilst XNTPD would be ideal, sometimes we need to compromise - particularly when we virtualize. VMWare tools does make life better, but doesn't cure all the problems. T From joea at j4computers.com Sun Mar 22 13:16:31 2009 From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 09:16:31 -0400 Subject: Vmware tools, time fubar In-Reply-To: <49C5704F020000750002DBA0@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> References: <49C56D4A020000850005F851@FS-LIN-OES> <49C5704F020000750002DBA0@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> Message-ID: <49C601EF020000850005F855@FS-LIN-OES> >>> On 3/21/2009 at 10:55 PM, "James Taylor" wrote: > If you run the GUI on the server, you get a menu item for vmware tools. You > can use this to set the guest to sync to the host time. > Have you done this? > Also, I have found that timesync is a much better method of reliably syncing > time for a NW guest in vmware than xntpd. > -jt > It happens that vmware tools is *not* installed on the linux host, as I thought. While attempting to install vmware tools, deep in, the installer tells me there is no compatible "blah" and do I want to compile it? Sure, why not? Except, cannot find the kernel c headers. Turns out, source is not installed. Going into Yast, can see this is so. Begin to install same when, sharp as ever, notice the version blah.yyy does not match the uname reported version of blah.zzz. One presumes it would be "bad" to compile with the wrong version. Now, of course, I am at a stand still, contemplating which way to turn on this. I am not aware of how the kernel got updated, perhaps thru an earlier red-carpet. joe a. From joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk Sun Mar 22 15:09:57 2009 From: joe.doupnik at oucs.ox.ac.uk (jrd) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:09:57 +0000 Subject: Vmware tools, time fubar In-Reply-To: <49C601EF020000850005F855@FS-LIN-OES> References: <49C56D4A020000850005F851@FS-LIN-OES> <49C5704F020000750002DBA0@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> <49C601EF020000850005F855@FS-LIN-OES> Message-ID: <49C654C5.80103@oucs.ox.ac.uk> joea at j4computers.com wrote: >>>> On 3/21/2009 at 10:55 PM, "James Taylor" > wrote: >> If you run the GUI on the server, you get a menu item for vmware tools. You >> can use this to set the guest to sync to the host time. >> Have you done this? >> Also, I have found that timesync is a much better method of reliably syncing >> time for a NW guest in vmware than xntpd. >> -jt >> > > It happens that vmware tools is *not* installed on the linux host, as I thought. While attempting to install vmware tools, deep in, the installer tells me there is no compatible "blah" and do I want to compile it? > > Sure, why not? Except, cannot find the kernel c headers. Turns out, source is not installed. Going into Yast, can see this is so. Begin to install same when, sharp as ever, notice the version blah.yyy does not match the uname reported version of blah.zzz. One presumes it would be "bad" to compile with the wrong version. > > Now, of course, I am at a stand still, contemplating which way to turn on this. I am not aware of how the kernel got updated, perhaps thru an earlier red-carpet. > > joe a. ------------ So, employ YaST to show you the available versions of the kernel sources. It should be a matter of standard practice on servers to install the kernel sources. Joe D. From joea at j4computers.com Sun Mar 22 16:38:17 2009 From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 12:38:17 -0400 Subject: Vmware tools, time fubar In-Reply-To: <49C654C5.80103@oucs.ox.ac.uk> References: <49C56D4A020000850005F851@FS-LIN-OES> <49C5704F020000750002DBA0@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> <49C601EF020000850005F855@FS-LIN-OES> <49C654C5.80103@oucs.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: <49C6313A020000850005F859@FS-LIN-OES> >>> On 3/22/2009 at 11:09 AM, jrd wrote: > joea at j4computers.com wrote: >>>>> On 3/21/2009 at 10:55 PM, "James Taylor" >> wrote: >>> If you run the GUI on the server, you get a menu item for vmware tools. You > >>> can use this to set the guest to sync to the host time. >>> Have you done this? >>> Also, I have found that timesync is a much better method of reliably syncing > >>> time for a NW guest in vmware than xntpd. >>> -jt >>> >> >> It happens that vmware tools is *not* installed on the linux host, as I > thought. While attempting to install vmware tools, deep in, the installer > tells me there is no compatible "blah" and do I want to compile it? >> >> Sure, why not? Except, cannot find the kernel c headers. Turns out, source > is not installed. Going into Yast, can see this is so. Begin to install > same when, sharp as ever, notice the version blah.yyy does not match the > uname reported version of blah.zzz. One presumes it would be "bad" to > compile with the wrong version. >> >> Now, of course, I am at a stand still, contemplating which way to turn on > this. I am not aware of how the kernel got updated, perhaps thru an earlier > red-carpet. >> >> joe a. > ------------ > So, employ YaST to show you the available versions of the kernel sources. > It should be a matter of standard practice on servers to install the kernel > sources. > Joe D. yast tells me 2.6.5 is available (same as installed kernel-default, according to yast). But it is version 2.6.5-7.244, while uname -r tells me 2.6.5-7.314-default, is installed. Hence, my hesitancy. I don't know why source was not installed here to begin with. joe a. From James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Sun Mar 22 16:53:56 2009 From: James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com (James Taylor) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 12:53:56 -0400 Subject: Vmware tools, time fubar In-Reply-To: <49C601EF020000850005F855@FS-LIN-OES> References: <49C56D4A020000850005F851@FS-LIN-OES> <49C5704F020000750002DBA0@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> <49C601EF020000850005F855@FS-LIN-OES> Message-ID: <49C634E4020000750002DC0C@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> I may be confused as to what you're trying to accomplish, but you need to install vmware tools in the guest, not the host. If you select "install vmware tools" entry from the VM drop down on the menu bar, it will mount a volume in the guest that you can install vmware tools from. The guest OS doesn't care what the kernel version of the host is. All it needs is vmware running on the host. -jt James Taylor The East Cobb Group, Inc. 678-697-9420 james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com http://www.eastcobbgroup.com >>> "joea at j4computers.com" 3/22/2009 09:16 AM >>> >>> On 3/21/2009 at 10:55 PM, "James Taylor" wrote: > If you run the GUI on the server, you get a menu item for vmware tools. You > can use this to set the guest to sync to the host time. > Have you done this? > Also, I have found that timesync is a much better method of reliably syncing > time for a NW guest in vmware than xntpd. > -jt > It happens that vmware tools is *not* installed on the linux host, as I thought. While attempting to install vmware tools, deep in, the installer tells me there is no compatible "blah" and do I want to compile it? Sure, why not? Except, cannot find the kernel c headers. Turns out, source is not installed. Going into Yast, can see this is so. Begin to install same when, sharp as ever, notice the version blah.yyy does not match the uname reported version of blah.zzz. One presumes it would be "bad" to compile with the wrong version. Now, of course, I am at a stand still, contemplating which way to turn on this. I am not aware of how the kernel got updated, perhaps thru an earlier red-carpet. joe a. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From jrd at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk Sun Mar 22 18:41:04 2009 From: jrd at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk (jrd) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 18:41:04 +0000 Subject: Vmware tools, time fubar In-Reply-To: <49C634E4020000750002DC0C@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> References: <49C56D4A020000850005F851@FS-LIN-OES> <49C5704F020000750002DBA0@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> <49C601EF020000850005F855@FS-LIN-OES> <49C634E4020000750002DC0C@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> Message-ID: <49C68640.7080409@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk> James is quite correct, as usual: install on the VMware guest. Even then, time keeping can be a problem. On this matter VMware tools tries to keep time from going backward, whereas the common problem is guest time is going forward too quickly. In ntpq this shows as time offsets which head in the negative direction and get worse (offset is "them" minus "us"). I am coming to the tentative conclusion that interrupts from disk accesses (SATA and IDE) are seen as clock ticks by at least NetWare and thus contribute to the fast ticking. For NW I think it estimates clock rates at startup, just when system load is high, and can obtain numbers nearly impossible to correct with NTP. What helps a great deal with NW is to use remote disks (but not NW's own iSCSI initiator). Turning this upside down for amusement, my most recent motherboard (quad core) with SLES 10 SP2 on it requires manual correction by adjtimex to let its NTP converge, yet NW and Linux VMware Workstation guests keep time very nicely with NTP from external sources. Go figure. Joe D. ----------- James Taylor wrote: > I may be confused as to what you're trying to accomplish, but you need to install vmware tools in the guest, not the host. > If you select "install vmware tools" entry from the VM drop down on the menu bar, it will mount a volume in the guest that you can install vmware tools from. > The guest OS doesn't care what the kernel version of the host is. All it needs is vmware running on the host. > -jt > > > > James Taylor > The East Cobb Group, Inc. > 678-697-9420 > james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com > http://www.eastcobbgroup.com > > > > > >>>> "joea at j4computers.com" 3/22/2009 09:16 AM >>> >>>> On 3/21/2009 at 10:55 PM, "James Taylor" >>>> > wrote: > >> If you run the GUI on the server, you get a menu item for vmware tools. You >> can use this to set the guest to sync to the host time. >> Have you done this? >> Also, I have found that timesync is a much better method of reliably syncing >> time for a NW guest in vmware than xntpd. >> -jt >> >> > > It happens that vmware tools is *not* installed on the linux host, as I thought. While attempting to install vmware tools, deep in, the installer tells me there is no compatible "blah" and do I want to compile it? > > Sure, why not? Except, cannot find the kernel c headers. Turns out, source is not installed. Going into Yast, can see this is so. Begin to install same when, sharp as ever, notice the version blah.yyy does not match the uname reported version of blah.zzz. One presumes it would be "bad" to compile with the wrong version. > > Now, of course, I am at a stand still, contemplating which way to turn on this. I am not aware of how the kernel got updated, perhaps thru an earlier red-carpet. > > joe a. > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > From joea at j4computers.com Sun Mar 22 19:00:03 2009 From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:00:03 -0400 Subject: Vmware tools, time fubar In-Reply-To: <49C634E4020000750002DC0C@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> References: <49C56D4A020000850005F851@FS-LIN-OES> <49C5704F020000750002DBA0@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> <49C601EF020000850005F855@FS-LIN-OES> <49C634E4020000750002DC0C@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> Message-ID: <49C65273020000850005F862@FS-LIN-OES> >>> On 3/22/2009 at 12:53 PM, "James Taylor" wrote: > I may be confused as to what you're trying to accomplish, but you need to > install vmware tools in the guest, not the host. > If you select "install vmware tools" entry from the VM drop down on the menu > bar, it will mount a volume in the guest that you can install vmware tools > from. > The guest OS doesn't care what the kernel version of the host is. All it > needs is vmware running on the host. I am attempting this on the guest. The host is sles 10 something. The guest is OES1. The other guest is NW 6.5 sp, umm 6 I think. mounting that volume goes without incident. Attempting to run the .pl file is where it problem crops up. the host mentions, along the bottom of the GUI, if memory serves, that vmware tools is installed, but not configured. joe a. From joea at j4computers.com Sun Mar 22 19:02:10 2009 From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:02:10 -0400 Subject: Vmware tools, time fubar In-Reply-To: <49C68640.7080409@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk> References: <49C56D4A020000850005F851@FS-LIN-OES> <49C5704F020000750002DBA0@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> <49C601EF020000850005F855@FS-LIN-OES> <49C634E4020000750002DC0C@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> <49C68640.7080409@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: <49C652F2020000850005F866@FS-LIN-OES> >>> On 3/22/2009 at 2:41 PM, jrd wrote: > James is quite correct, as usual: install on the VMware guest. > Even then, time keeping can be a problem. On this matter VMware > tools tries to keep time from going backward, > whereas the common problem is guest time is going forward too quickly. > In ntpq this shows as time offsets which > head in the negative direction and get worse (offset is "them" minus "us"). > I am coming to the tentative conclusion that interrupts from disk > accesses (SATA and IDE) are seen as clock ticks > by at least NetWare and thus contribute to the fast ticking. For NW I > think it estimates clock rates at startup, just when > system load is high, and can obtain numbers nearly impossible to correct > with NTP. What helps a great deal with NW > is to use remote disks (but not NW's own iSCSI initiator). > Turning this upside down for amusement, my most recent motherboard > (quad core) with SLES 10 SP2 on it requires > manual correction by adjtimex to let its NTP converge, yet NW and Linux > VMware Workstation guests keep time very > nicely with NTP from external sources. Go figure. > Joe D. I am coming to my own tentative conclusion. It's magic. joe a. From joea at j4computers.com Sun Mar 22 19:15:07 2009 From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:15:07 -0400 Subject: Vmware tools, time fubar In-Reply-To: <49C652F2020000850005F866@FS-LIN-OES> References: <49C56D4A020000850005F851@FS-LIN-OES> <49C5704F020000750002DBA0@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> <49C601EF020000850005F855@FS-LIN-OES> <49C634E4020000750002DC0C@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> <49C68640.7080409@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <49C652F2020000850005F866@FS-LIN-OES> Message-ID: <49C655FB020000850005F86A@FS-LIN-OES> I also discovered that the NW vm had vmware tools synctime set on. Turned that off and the apparent time on the NW box immediately began keeping much better time. It eventually did converge with the Linux box, but the then drifted apart. Sigh. I vaguely recall reading somewhere that should be turned on. Currently, time is not in sync, but is off by "12", which does not seem to be shrinking or growing. Hmm, he lies. It does seem to be meandering about a bit, but is much better that it was. Art, not Science? joe a. From Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee Tue Mar 24 11:31:04 2009 From: Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee (Alar Pandis) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:31:04 +0200 Subject: How to suppress iF 3.7 sync log to appear? Message-ID: <00b701c9ac74$04501230$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> Hi again! Any ideas how to suppress sync log to appear automatically!? iFolder 3.7 Windows (XP SP2) client installed. More thanks, Alar. From cmangiarelli at gmail.com Tue Mar 24 20:44:55 2009 From: cmangiarelli at gmail.com (Christopher Mangiarelli) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:44:55 -0400 Subject: How to suppress iF 3.7 sync log to appear? In-Reply-To: <00b701c9ac74$04501230$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> References: <00b701c9ac74$04501230$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> Message-ID: What do you mean by sync log? On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Alar Pandis wrote: > Hi again! > Any ideas how to suppress sync log to appear automatically!? > iFolder 3.7 Windows (XP SP2) client installed. > More thanks, Alar. > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > -- Christopher Mangiarelli cmangiarelli at gmail.com From Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee Wed Mar 25 08:59:44 2009 From: Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee (Alar Pandis) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:59:44 +0200 Subject: How to suppress iF 3.7 sync log to appear? Message-ID: <00a501c9ad28$0ac74b60$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> Hi and thanks! iFolder Synchronization Log. Alar. >>> Christopher Mangiarelli cmangiarelli at gmail.com Tue Mar 24 20:44:55 GMT 2009 <<< What do you mean by sync log? On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Alar Pandis wrote: > Hi again! > Any ideas how to suppress sync log to appear automatically!? > iFolder 3.7 Windows (XP SP2) client installed. > More thanks, Alar. > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > -- Christopher Mangiarelli cmangiarelli at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 1:31 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: How to suppress iF 3.7 sync log to appear? Hi again! Any ideas how to suppress sync log to appear automatically!? iFolder 3.7 Windows (XP SP2) client installed. More thanks, Alar. From bbrush at gmail.com Wed Mar 25 13:33:36 2009 From: bbrush at gmail.com (Bill Brush) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:33:36 -0500 Subject: ZCM agent memory usage Message-ID: <167f4090903250633p27c935ccq1d7f5a62d4880d74@mail.gmail.com> I am looking for information on what the "normal" range of memory usage for the agent is on XP pro. We are seeing some varying memory usage, and some members of the team think that the agent possibly has a memory leak. The agent will normally run about 8 MB of memory at startup then go up to 50-80 MB after a few hours. There have been anecdotal incidents where killing the process and restarting it has solved performance issues. Are these memory footprints normal? I personally don't think they're excessive for a Windows process, but I could be wrong. If anyone is running ZCM and has had a client machine running for a day or so, I would love to hear what the agent memory usage is. We're on version 10.1.3 FYI. Thanks, Bill From cmangiarelli at gmail.com Wed Mar 25 13:46:53 2009 From: cmangiarelli at gmail.com (Christopher Mangiarelli) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:46:53 -0400 Subject: How to suppress iF 3.7 sync log to appear? In-Reply-To: <00a501c9ad28$0ac74b60$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> References: <00a501c9ad28$0ac74b60$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> Message-ID: I still don't know what you mean. The log doesn't appear on my ifolder 3.7 client. However I do get error messages about sync issues related to the default excluded items list. Those errors are normal and cannot be suppressed in the current client. On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 4:59 AM, Alar Pandis wrote: > Hi and thanks! > iFolder Synchronization Log. > Alar. > > >>> Christopher Mangiarelli cmangiarelli at gmail.com Tue Mar 24 20:44:55 > GMT 2009 <<< > > What do you mean by sync log? > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Alar Pandis > wrote: > > > Hi again! > > Any ideas how to suppress sync log to appear automatically!? > > iFolder 3.7 Windows (XP SP2) client installed. > > More thanks, Alar. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Novell mailing list > > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > > -- > Christopher Mangiarelli > cmangiarelli at gmail.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 1:31 PM > To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' > Subject: How to suppress iF 3.7 sync log to appear? > > Hi again! > Any ideas how to suppress sync log to appear automatically!? > iFolder 3.7 Windows (XP SP2) client installed. > More thanks, Alar. > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > -- Christopher Mangiarelli cmangiarelli at gmail.com From bbrush at gmail.com Wed Mar 25 13:54:14 2009 From: bbrush at gmail.com (Bill Brush) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:54:14 -0500 Subject: How to suppress iF 3.7 sync log to appear? In-Reply-To: References: <00a501c9ad28$0ac74b60$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> Message-ID: <167f4090903250654xe893e40h8312745385aacc6@mail.gmail.com> I think what he's saying is that the sync log pops up automagically and he doesn't want it to. Normally you have to right-click the ifolder icon and choose "Synchronization log" to see it. Bill On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Christopher Mangiarelli wrote: > I still don't know what you mean. ?The log doesn't appear on my ifolder 3.7 > client. ?However I do get error messages about sync issues related to the > default excluded items list. ?Those errors are normal and cannot be > suppressed in the current client. > From jdustin at usm.maine.edu Wed Mar 25 15:26:19 2009 From: jdustin at usm.maine.edu (Jon Dustin) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:26:19 -0400 Subject: Vmware tools, time fubar Message-ID: <49CA14DB0200008D00018BAC@uct5.uct.usm.maine.edu> >>> On 3/21/2009 at 10:42 PM, in message <49CA3604.E8E : 174 : 3726>, "joea at j4computers.com" wrote: > Finding time on a virtualized nw6.5 box, way, way, off, notice vmware tools > seems to be a problem. Without this loaded, can say "time" at server console > several times, and seconds appear to tick off in a reasonable manner. > > With vmware tools loaded, virtual seconds seem to be ticking off one per ten > or so real seconds. > > so, with vmware tools unloaded did ntpdate mytimeserver, then xntpd. All > seems OK, but timesync never seems to get synced, between the NW box and a > virtualized OES1 linux box. The linux box, oddly, seems to be keeping time > just fine. > On my NetWare v6.5 SP7 (and SP8) boxes, I do the following for keeping their clocks synced: - change TIMESERV.NCF to load TIMESYNC.NLM (I know, old school) - change SET parameter for TIMESYNC TIME SOURCES to: ntp.server.address.com:123; - change TIMESYNC POLLING INTERVAL to 30 (check time more often) - load VMWare tools for NetWare This has kept my NetWare boxes in sync for about 2 years now. Good luck! -- Jon Dustin - Network Specialist University of Southern Maine Portland, ME 207-780-4152 From cmangiarelli at gmail.com Wed Mar 25 15:44:02 2009 From: cmangiarelli at gmail.com (Christopher Mangiarelli) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:44:02 -0400 Subject: How to suppress iF 3.7 sync log to appear? In-Reply-To: <167f4090903250654xe893e40h8312745385aacc6@mail.gmail.com> References: <00a501c9ad28$0ac74b60$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> <167f4090903250654xe893e40h8312745385aacc6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: If that's the case, then that's an anomaly on his side. The sync log doesn't pop up on my site automatically. On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Bill Brush wrote: > I think what he's saying is that the sync log pops up automagically > and he doesn't want it to. Normally you have to right-click the > ifolder icon and choose "Synchronization log" to see it. > > Bill > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Christopher Mangiarelli > wrote: > > I still don't know what you mean. The log doesn't appear on my ifolder > 3.7 > > client. However I do get error messages about sync issues related to the > > default excluded items list. Those errors are normal and cannot be > > suppressed in the current client. > -- Christopher Mangiarelli cmangiarelli at gmail.com From bbrush at gmail.com Wed Mar 25 20:31:28 2009 From: bbrush at gmail.com (Bill Brush) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:31:28 -0500 Subject: Groupwise Message-ID: <167f4090903251331o2cd08af8u71e3b89ff421bdaf@mail.gmail.com> Anybody have a "Groupwise admin for the newbie" cheat sheet? I had someone seek me out because I was wearing a Novell t-shirt and they need some light administration contracting but part of it is Groupwise and I've never used it except for the trips to Brainshare. Thanks, Bill From gbeckmeyer at acgih.org Wed Mar 25 20:47:52 2009 From: gbeckmeyer at acgih.org (Greg Beckmeyer) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:47:52 -0400 Subject: Groupwise Message-ID: I've seen some end user cheat sheets, but those aren't going to help you much. Check out gwcheck.com and you might also want to subscribe to ngwlist.com Greg Beckmeyer >>> bbrush at gmail.com 3/25/2009 4:31 PM >>> Anybody have a "Groupwise admin for the newbie" cheat sheet? I had someone seek me out because I was wearing a Novell t-shirt and they need some light administration contracting but part of it is Groupwise and I've never used it except for the trips to Brainshare. Thanks, Bill _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From pjklist at ekahuna.com Wed Mar 25 23:22:51 2009 From: pjklist at ekahuna.com (Philip J. Koenig) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:22:51 -0700 Subject: Client32 issue - 4.91-SP5 and executables Message-ID: <49CA5A5B.14752.103ABA5@pjklist.ekahuna.com> Running an old NW 5.1 server here (using traditional volumes), just setting up a new XP-SP3 workstation running 4.91-SP5. (latest client I've used prior to this was -SP4 with some post-SP4 patches) Having a problem with non-admin users not being able to launch executables from network volumes. It seems that this may have to do with Microsoft's XP SP2+ feature called "Attachment Execution Services" or AES. It's the thing that pops up the "Open File - Security Warning" dialog when you try to run .EXEs etc. from a network share. I get that popup when I try to launch .EXE's from the new workstation as admin, but I can still run the executable. But when logged-in as power-user (and presumably regular user) I get a message that says I don't have adequate rights to launch the file. Here's a discussion where someone found a conflict between Client32 and the MS client: http://tinyurl.com/clp7ps So I've tried turning off the UNC path filter in Client32 properties, unbinding MS client and file/printer sharing in network connection properties, adding "file://SERVERNAME/ VOLUMENAME" to "Trusted Sites" in IE, and applying the 491psp5_nwfs_3 patch to the client. None of those worked. I verified that the Netware client is first in the network provider order. Perhaps I have to uninstall the MS client entirely, but of course that causes me other problems. Ideas? From petervl at gmail.com Thu Mar 26 01:49:18 2009 From: petervl at gmail.com (Peter Van Lone) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:49:18 -0500 Subject: Vmware tools, time fubar In-Reply-To: <49CA14DB0200008D00018BAC@uct5.uct.usm.maine.edu> References: <49CA14DB0200008D00018BAC@uct5.uct.usm.maine.edu> Message-ID: <68b791330903251849y554003c4h97237b15e0654134@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Jon Dustin wrote: > - load VMWare tools for NetWare > > This has kept my NetWare boxes in sync for about 2 years now. Good luck! but the $64000 question is: do you tell vmware tools to provide time to the server, or do you disable that feature? p From jrd at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk Thu Mar 26 02:38:43 2009 From: jrd at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk (Joe Doupnik) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 02:38:43 +0000 Subject: Vmware tools, time fubar In-Reply-To: <68b791330903251849y554003c4h97237b15e0654134@mail.gmail.com> References: <49CA14DB0200008D00018BAC@uct5.uct.usm.maine.edu> <68b791330903251849y554003c4h97237b15e0654134@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49CAEAB3.6050301@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Peter Van Lone wrote: > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Jon Dustin wrote: > > >> - load VMWare tools for NetWare >> >> This has kept my NetWare boxes in sync for about 2 years now. Good luck! >> > > but the $64000 question is: do you tell vmware tools to provide time > to the server, or do you disable that feature? > > --------- I think we need to read the very fine print from VMware. As I am traveling at the moment I can't do that, but I can recall what I remember. That was Tools tried to ensure time did not regress in the guest It did not say, as I recall, anything about forcing client time to be lock step with the host. Perhaps someone on the list can do that lawyering work for us and report back. Meanwhile we do know that guest tme can go lots faster than the host/world, with and without VMware Tools. Can I have the $64K now? Joe D. From Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee Thu Mar 26 08:30:04 2009 From: Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee (Alar Pandis) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:30:04 +0200 Subject: How to suppress iF 3.7 sync log to appear? Message-ID: <00ab01c9aded$0fed63c0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> Hi again and thanks! Sorry, I didn't express myself in correct way. Yes, Bill, You're correct, exactly this I mean. I have some restrictions on file sync and also during a day some Outlook files open, so iFolder log (Filtered, error messages, to be correct) pops up every ... time and this is something I try to stop. Well, those errors is correct, no problem with that. More thanks, Alar. >>> Christopher Mangiarelli cmangiarelli at gmail.com Wed Mar 25 15:44:02 GMT 2009 <<< If that's the case, then that's an anomaly on his side. The sync log doesn't pop up on my site automatically. >>> Bill Brush bbrush at gmail.com Wed Mar 25 13:54:14 GMT 2009 <<< I think what he's saying is that the sync log pops up automagically and he doesn't want it to. Normally you have to right-click the ifolder icon and choose "Synchronization log" to see it. Bill >>> Christopher Mangiarelli cmangiarelli at gmail.com Wed Mar 25 13:46:53 GMT 2009 <<< I still don't know what you mean. The log doesn't appear on my ifolder 3.7 client. However I do get error messages about sync issues related to the default excluded items list. Those errors are normal and cannot be suppressed in the current client. -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 11:00 AM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: RE: How to suppress iF 3.7 sync log to appear? Hi and thanks! iFolder Synchronization Log. Alar. >>> Christopher Mangiarelli cmangiarelli at gmail.com Tue Mar 24 20:44:55 GMT 2009 <<< What do you mean by sync log? On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Alar Pandis wrote: > Hi again! > Any ideas how to suppress sync log to appear automatically!? > iFolder 3.7 Windows (XP SP2) client installed. > More thanks, Alar. > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > -- Christopher Mangiarelli cmangiarelli at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: Alar Pandis [mailto:Alar.Pandis at mtk.ut.ee] Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 1:31 PM To: 'Novell LAN Interest Group' Subject: How to suppress iF 3.7 sync log to appear? Hi again! Any ideas how to suppress sync log to appear automatically!? iFolder 3.7 Windows (XP SP2) client installed. More thanks, Alar. From joea at j4computers.com Thu Mar 26 10:43:02 2009 From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 06:43:02 -0400 Subject: Vmware tools, time fubar In-Reply-To: <49CAEAB3.6050301@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk> References: <49CA14DB0200008D00018BAC@uct5.uct.usm.maine.edu> <68b791330903251849y554003c4h97237b15e0654134@mail.gmail.com> <49CAEAB3.6050301@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: <49CB23F7020000850005F8B1@FS-LIN-OES> . . . Perhaps someone on the list can do that lawyering work > for us and report back. > Meanwhile we do know that guest tme can go lots faster than the > host/world, with and without > VMware Tools. I know only (see earlier post) that telling vmware tools to *not* provide time to a NW vm, fixed a *slow* running local, virtual, clock. Still having time sync issues, with an OES1 linux box on same host, but, since they are now so close, I cannot tell which one is "off". Perhaps both are? . . . > Joe D. > joe a. From bbrush at gmail.com Thu Mar 26 14:00:57 2009 From: bbrush at gmail.com (Bill Brush) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:00:57 -0500 Subject: Netware cluster implosion - request for comments Message-ID: <167f4090903260700h7650cd53qa219013876459f4f@mail.gmail.com> Ok guys I've got a Netware cluster that's been running for years but lately (last 6 months) its stability seems to be degraded, and that's got certain members of my department looking to replace it. I had an incident last night that I find pretty disconcerting in that 3 of the 4 nodes went down. So here's the timeline as I've been able to pin it down. 6:01 Server S halts with the following condition: "Abend 1 on P00: Server-5.70.08-0: This node in the Minority partition and the node in Majority partition is Alive.For more information, consult technical information document 10053882 in the knowledgebase on" 6:45 Server A halts with the following condition: " Abend 1 on P00: Server-5.70.08: Page Fault Processor Exception (Error code 00000011)" "Additional Information: The CPU encountered a problem executing code in SERVER.NLM. The problem may be in that module or in data passed to that module by a process owned by FSBACK.NLM." This is the Commvault NLM and frankly it's always been a little flakey. 11:43 Server R halts with the following condition: "Abend 1 on P01: Server-5.70.08: Page Fault Processor Exception (Error code 00000002)" " The CPU encountered a problem executing code in TCP.NLM. The problem may be in that module or in data passed to that module by a process owned by SERVER.NLM." Now for added fun, two of the servers abended when they were rebooted this morning. 7:37:03.892 Server A halts during the load process with this condition: "Abend 1 on P00: Server-5.70.08: Page Fault Processor Exception (Error code 00000000)" "T he CPU encountered a problem executing code in DS.NLM. The problem may be in that module or in data passed to that module by a process owned by SERVER.NLM." 7:37:27.646 Server S halts during the laod process with this condition: "Abend 1 on P00: Server-5.70.08: Page Fault Processor Exception (Error code 00000000)" "The CPU encountered a problem executing code in DS.NLM. The problem may be in that module or in data passed to that module by a process owned by SERVER.NLM." Netware version 6.5 sp8, eDir version 8.8 sp4. Any one of these incidents taken individually wouldn't cause me any undue alarm, but taken as a whole I find it to be a cause for concern, especially the abends on DS on load. DSrepair doesn't show any significant errors. So anyone have any ideas on what my problem might be? A few more mornings like this and I'm going to retire to a nice quiet construction job. Bill From cmangiarelli at gmail.com Thu Mar 26 14:16:21 2009 From: cmangiarelli at gmail.com (Christopher Mangiarelli) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:16:21 -0400 Subject: Netware cluster implosion - request for comments In-Reply-To: <167f4090903260700h7650cd53qa219013876459f4f@mail.gmail.com> References: <167f4090903260700h7650cd53qa219013876459f4f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: When I upgraded to SP8 in my test lab I had some funky abends as well. Mainly my service processes shot up and I started getting cpu hog timeouts and stuff. Once all of the servers were upgraded and rebooted, it all settled down and I haven't seen an abend in over a month. I don't know what's so special about SP8 and/or eDir88sp4. My lab used to be two NW65SP7 servers and an OES2+SLES10SP1 server. I upgraded to NW65SP8 and OES2SP1+SLES10SP2. I was concerned too but things have settled down so once I move to production I am expecting more hiccups though I really wish they wouldn't happen. On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Bill Brush wrote: > Ok guys I've got a Netware cluster that's been running for years but lately > (last 6 months) its stability seems to be degraded, and that's got certain > members of my department looking to replace it. I had an incident last > night that I find pretty disconcerting in that 3 of the 4 nodes went down. > > So here's the timeline as I've been able to pin it down. > > 6:01 Server S halts with the following condition: "Abend 1 on P00: > Server-5.70.08-0: This node in the Minority partition and the node in > Majority partition is Alive.For more information, consult technical > information document 10053882 in the knowledgebase on" > > 6:45 Server A halts with the following condition: " Abend 1 on P00: > Server-5.70.08: Page Fault Processor Exception (Error code 00000011)" > "Additional Information: The CPU encountered a problem executing code > in SERVER.NLM. The problem may be in that module or in data passed to that > module by a process owned by FSBACK.NLM." > > This is the Commvault NLM and frankly it's always been a little flakey. > > 11:43 Server R halts with the following condition: "Abend 1 on P01: > Server-5.70.08: Page Fault Processor Exception (Error code 00000002)" " > The > CPU encountered a problem executing code in TCP.NLM. The problem may be in > that module or in data passed to that module by a process owned by > SERVER.NLM." > > Now for added fun, two of the servers abended when they were rebooted this > morning. > > > 7:37:03.892 Server A halts during the load process with this condition: > "Abend 1 on P00: Server-5.70.08: Page Fault Processor Exception (Error code > 00000000)" "T he CPU encountered a problem executing code in DS.NLM. The > problem may be in that module or in data passed to that module by a process > owned by SERVER.NLM." > > 7:37:27.646 Server S halts during the laod process with this condition: > "Abend 1 on P00: Server-5.70.08: Page Fault Processor Exception (Error code > 00000000)" "The CPU encountered a problem executing code in DS.NLM. The > problem may be in that module or in data passed to that module by a process > owned by SERVER.NLM." > > Netware version 6.5 sp8, eDir version 8.8 sp4. > > Any one of these incidents taken individually wouldn't cause me any undue > alarm, but taken as a whole I find it to be a cause for concern, especially > the abends on DS on load. DSrepair doesn't show any significant errors. > > So anyone have any ideas on what my problem might be? A few more mornings > like this and I'm going to retire to a nice quiet construction job. > > Bill > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > -- Christopher Mangiarelli cmangiarelli at gmail.com From cmangiarelli at gmail.com Thu Mar 26 14:18:59 2009 From: cmangiarelli at gmail.com (Christopher Mangiarelli) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:18:59 -0400 Subject: How to suppress iF 3.7 sync log to appear? In-Reply-To: <00ab01c9aded$0fed63c0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> References: <00ab01c9aded$0fed63c0$8800000a@infutiknt.mtk.ut.ee> Message-ID: I've never seem this behavior with the sync log. I've seen the little bubble messages appear above the system tray but not the entire log window. On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 4:30 AM, Alar Pandis wrote: > Hi again and thanks! > Sorry, I didn't express myself in correct way. > Yes, Bill, You're correct, exactly this I mean. I have some restrictions on > file sync and also during a day some Outlook files open, so iFolder log > (Filtered, error messages, to be correct) pops up every ... time and this > is > something I try to stop. Well, those errors is correct, no problem with > that. > More thanks, Alar. > -- Christopher Mangiarelli cmangiarelli at gmail.com From RGrein at tpchd.org Thu Mar 26 14:50:01 2009 From: RGrein at tpchd.org (Randy Grein) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 07:50:01 -0700 Subject: Groupwise In-Reply-To: <167f4090903251331o2cd08af8u71e3b89ff421bdaf@mail.gmail.com> References: <167f4090903251331o2cd08af8u71e3b89ff421bdaf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49CB33A902000072000013A4@health-mail2.tpchd.org> If nobody has mentioned it you could do worse than hook up with the NGW list; some of the brightest lights in the Groupwise universe hang out there. Nice easy web interface to sign up for the list is at http://www.ngwlist.com . Second, check out a couple of those luminaries - the first is Danita Zanre; you can find her writings (several good books, articles and a couple of cheat sheets at http://www.caledonia.net/cat-gw.html. You'll also find work by Tay Kratzer and Greg Hinchman who can be found at his own website at http://www.hinchmanconsulting.com . Check out the articles; he has written a number of best practices on different Groupwise subjects - perfect for what you need! Randy Grein Sr. Network Engineer >>> Bill Brush 3/25/2009 1:31 PM >>> Anybody have a "Groupwise admin for the newbie" cheat sheet? I had someone seek me out because I was wearing a Novell t-shirt and they need some light administration contracting but part of it is Groupwise and I've never used it except for the trips to Brainshare. 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I was thinking of writing a script that found the current owner, and then executed the right Novell command to change the owner to that owner, but there doesn't seem to be a way to change a files owner on NSS from the command line. Has anyone got any idea how to tackle this ? Thanks Alan --- AlanP From James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Fri Mar 27 20:19:10 2009 From: James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com (James Taylor) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:19:10 -0400 Subject: Help preserving file ownership In-Reply-To: <63CD78DE-C214-4E54-A626-967D585BE78C@yahoo.com> References: <63CD78DE-C214-4E54-A626-967D585BE78C@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49CCFC7E0200007500049166@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> I wonder if you samba enabled the server as a domain controller, the migration tool might think it was a windows server and migrate the trustees. Has anyone tried this? -jt James Taylor The East Cobb Group, Inc. 678-697-9420 james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com http://www.eastcobbgroup.com >>> Alan Pearson 3/27/2009 03:39 PM >>> Hi All, I' migrating some network drives that are currently hosted on Unix servers to NSS. All the users that own files on these servers have been LUM enabled on the Novell server (even with the same UIDs) What I want to do is preserve ownership info (for Quota reasons) when I place these files on NSS on the OES2 Linux server. chown won't do it, as it doesn't update the eDir file owner. I was thinking of writing a script that found the current owner, and then executed the right Novell command to change the owner to that owner, but there doesn't seem to be a way to change a files owner on NSS from the command line. Has anyone got any idea how to tackle this ? Thanks Alan --- AlanP _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From alandpearson at yahoo.com Fri Mar 27 20:29:10 2009 From: alandpearson at yahoo.com (Alan Pearson) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:29:10 +0000 Subject: Help preserving file ownership In-Reply-To: <49CCFC7E0200007500049166@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> References: <63CD78DE-C214-4E54-A626-967D585BE78C@yahoo.com> <49CCFC7E0200007500049166@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> Message-ID: <372EC01A-2666-42BA-8648-70D38A3A5084@yahoo.com> That would be great. The server that currently hosts the drives is a DC & running Samba. Any pointers to docs ? --- AlanP On 27 Mar 2009, at 20:19, James Taylor wrote: > I wonder if you samba enabled the server as a domain controller, the > migration tool might think it was a windows server and migrate the > trustees. > Has anyone tried this? > -jt > > > > James Taylor > The East Cobb Group, Inc. > 678-697-9420 > james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com > http://www.eastcobbgroup.com > > > > >>>> Alan Pearson 3/27/2009 03:39 PM >>> > Hi All, > > > I' migrating some network drives that are currently hosted on Unix > servers to NSS. > > All the users that own files on these servers have been LUM enabled on > the Novell server (even with the same UIDs) > > What I want to do is preserve ownership info (for Quota reasons) when > I place these files on NSS on the OES2 Linux server. > > chown won't do it, as it doesn't update the eDir file owner. > > I was thinking of writing a script that found the current owner, and > then executed the right Novell command to change the owner to that > owner, but there doesn't seem to be a way to change a files owner on > NSS from the command line. > > Has anyone got any idea how to tackle this ? > > > Thanks > Alan > > > > --- > AlanP > > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee Fri Mar 27 20:32:47 2009 From: toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee (Toomas Aas) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:32:47 +0200 Subject: Help preserving file ownership In-Reply-To: <63CD78DE-C214-4E54-A626-967D585BE78C@yahoo.com> References: <63CD78DE-C214-4E54-A626-967D585BE78C@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49CD37EF.6060607@raad.tartu.ee> Alan Pearson wrote: > I was thinking of writing a script that found the current owner, and > then executed the right Novell command to change the owner to that > owner, but there doesn't seem to be a way to change a files owner on NSS > from the command line. > I think ye olde FLAG.EXE can do this. If my memory is correct: flag filename.ext /name=.user.ou.org However, I don't know if there's any equivalent that would work in Linux. -- Toomas ... I haven't lost my mind; I know exactly where I left it. From alandpearson at yahoo.com Fri Mar 27 21:03:05 2009 From: alandpearson at yahoo.com (Alan Pearson) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:03:05 +0000 Subject: Help preserving file ownership In-Reply-To: <49CD37EF.6060607@raad.tartu.ee> References: <63CD78DE-C214-4E54-A626-967D585BE78C@yahoo.com> <49CD37EF.6060607@raad.tartu.ee> Message-ID: > > I think ye olde FLAG.EXE can do this. If my memory is correct: > > flag filename.ext /name=.user.ou.org > > However, I don't know if there's any equivalent that would work in > Linux. > Hmm, seems it will, but no linux equivalent. I'm so annoyed that chown can't do this, a huge oversight by Novell. Any other ideas ? Thanks ! Alan > -- > Toomas > > ... I haven't lost my mind; I know exactly where I left it. > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Fri Mar 27 21:06:26 2009 From: James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com (James Taylor) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:06:26 -0400 Subject: Help preserving file ownership In-Reply-To: <372EC01A-2666-42BA-8648-70D38A3A5084@yahoo.com> References: <63CD78DE-C214-4E54-A626-967D585BE78C@yahoo.com> <49CCFC7E0200007500049166@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> <372EC01A-2666-42BA-8648-70D38A3A5084@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49CD0792020000750002E4F6@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> Here's a pointer to the doc for the OES2SP1 based tools. http://www.novell.com/documentation/oes2/mig_tools_lx/index.html?page=/documentation/oes2/mig_tools_lx/data/bfh18cc.html#bfh18cc and here's one for SCMT. http://www.novell.com/documentation/scmt/scmt12/index.html?page=/documentation/scmt/scmt12/data/bz4e3kg.html I've never tried to do this, but it seems worth a shot. It is definitely not a supported solution. -jt James Taylor The East Cobb Group, Inc. 678-697-9420 james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com http://www.eastcobbgroup.com >>> Alan Pearson 3/27/2009 04:29 PM >>> That would be great. The server that currently hosts the drives is a DC & running Samba. Any pointers to docs ? --- AlanP On 27 Mar 2009, at 20:19, James Taylor wrote: > I wonder if you samba enabled the server as a domain controller, the > migration tool might think it was a windows server and migrate the > trustees. > Has anyone tried this? > -jt > > > > James Taylor > The East Cobb Group, Inc. > 678-697-9420 > james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com > http://www.eastcobbgroup.com > > > > >>>> Alan Pearson 3/27/2009 03:39 PM >>> > Hi All, > > > I' migrating some network drives that are currently hosted on Unix > servers to NSS. > > All the users that own files on these servers have been LUM enabled on > the Novell server (even with the same UIDs) > > What I want to do is preserve ownership info (for Quota reasons) when > I place these files on NSS on the OES2 Linux server. > > chown won't do it, as it doesn't update the eDir file owner. > > I was thinking of writing a script that found the current owner, and > then executed the right Novell command to change the owner to that > owner, but there doesn't seem to be a way to change a files owner on > NSS from the command line. > > Has anyone got any idea how to tackle this ? > > > Thanks > Alan > > > > --- > AlanP > > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From alandpearson at yahoo.com Fri Mar 27 21:23:10 2009 From: alandpearson at yahoo.com (Alan Pearson) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:23:10 +0000 Subject: Help preserving file ownership In-Reply-To: <49CD0792020000750002E4F6@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> References: <63CD78DE-C214-4E54-A626-967D585BE78C@yahoo.com> <49CCFC7E0200007500049166@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> <372EC01A-2666-42BA-8648-70D38A3A5084@yahoo.com> <49CD0792020000750002E4F6@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> Message-ID: <461C3276-C8A3-405A-882E-6792DE2B1311@yahoo.com> Guys Thanks for all the great ideas. The migration stuff looks a bit hairy for me, but this leads to a further question (I'll post a separate email) "For this problem though, the idea for FLAG is the way forward. From the novell docs : The flag command is a DOS command line utility, sys:\public\flag.exe. FLAG is client-side application, not a server-side application. Install the Novell Client for Windows on your workstation, then use the Novell Map Network Drive option in the client menu to map a local drive letter to the sys:\public directory. Open a DOS Command Prompt window, cd to the mapped drive, then issue the flagcommand from the command line. " So with that in mind, I can do the following : On the current fileserver (OS/X Server) I can run a perl script that will go through every file in the current drive, and query eDir for the DN of the owner. This can write out to a batch file that executes flag for each file (thousands of files, so it'll not be quick) that I can run on a Windows workstation. Fun, fun, fun, all because Novell can't do chown GRRRRR --- AlanP On 27 Mar 2009, at 21:06, James Taylor wrote: > Here's a pointer to the doc for the OES2SP1 based tools. > > http://www.novell.com/documentation/oes2/mig_tools_lx/index.html?page=/documentation/oes2/mig_tools_lx/data/bfh18cc.html#bfh18cc > > and here's one for SCMT. > > http://www.novell.com/documentation/scmt/scmt12/index.html?page=/documentation/scmt/scmt12/data/bz4e3kg.html > > I've never tried to do this, but it seems worth a shot. > It is definitely not a supported solution. > > -jt > > > James Taylor > The East Cobb Group, Inc. > 678-697-9420 > james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com > http://www.eastcobbgroup.com > > > > >>>> Alan Pearson 3/27/2009 04:29 PM >>> > That would be great. The server that currently hosts the drives is a > DC & running Samba. > > Any pointers to docs ? > > --- > AlanP > > > On 27 Mar 2009, at 20:19, James Taylor wrote: > >> I wonder if you samba enabled the server as a domain controller, the >> migration tool might think it was a windows server and migrate the >> trustees. >> Has anyone tried this? >> -jt >> >> >> >> James Taylor >> The East Cobb Group, Inc. >> 678-697-9420 >> james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com >> http://www.eastcobbgroup.com >> >> >> >> >>>>> Alan Pearson 3/27/2009 03:39 PM >>> >> Hi All, >> >> >> I' migrating some network drives that are currently hosted on Unix >> servers to NSS. >> >> All the users that own files on these servers have been LUM enabled >> on >> the Novell server (even with the same UIDs) >> >> What I want to do is preserve ownership info (for Quota reasons) when >> I place these files on NSS on the OES2 Linux server. >> >> chown won't do it, as it doesn't update the eDir file owner. >> >> I was thinking of writing a script that found the current owner, and >> then executed the right Novell command to change the owner to that >> owner, but there doesn't seem to be a way to change a files owner on >> NSS from the command line. >> >> Has anyone got any idea how to tackle this ? >> >> >> Thanks >> Alan >> >> >> >> --- >> AlanP >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Novell mailing list >> Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk >> http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Novell mailing list >> Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk >> http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From alandpearson at yahoo.com Fri Mar 27 21:32:12 2009 From: alandpearson at yahoo.com (Alan Pearson) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:32:12 +0000 Subject: Migration of NT roaming profiles to Zen Local Users Message-ID: <22251AF6-46D3-41BC-AFDD-16FAC5E33F73@yahoo.com> Hi again guys, This time, part 2 of my migration is moving all the NT domain users & thier Roaming Profiles to Zenworks Local User objects. Users already exist in eDirectory. I don't know if I still want Roaming Profiles, (I think not) and would like to use ZLU instead of having a Windows Domain. The win domain is currently OS/X server running Open Directory + Samba, which is being decommissioned and everything moving to Novell. I'm sick of managing 2 systems and we've outgrown the Apple Server solution. From the novell doc pointed to by James, comes this little snippet : http://www.novell.com/documentation/scmt/scmt12/index.html?page=/documentation/scmt/scmt12/data/bz4e3kg.html "7.8.1 Novell ZENworks and Roaming Profiles If you are using Novell ZENworks to support Roaming Profiles, ZENworks version 6.5 and later creates an NT Roaming Profile directory the first time a migrated Windows user logs into his or her eDirectory account on NetWare. The directory is either the eDirectory User Home Directory or an explicit UNC path, as specified in the ZENworks User Package assigned to that user. The time-consuming process of having the Server Consolidation Utility copy the NT Profile directory is no longer needed and has been removed." So the question is, how can I migrate the profiles / users from domain users to ZLUs ? I'm guessing : 1) Enable ZLU for each user in turn and roaming profiles 2) Visit workstation have user logon 3) ZLU gets created, profile dir created, and profile turned into a ZLU roaming profile 4) Remove PC from domain 5) Disable roaming profile in ZLU Is it that simple (I doubt it ) Thanks again ! --- AlanP From novell at jrbsoftware.com Fri Mar 27 22:59:22 2009 From: novell at jrbsoftware.com (John Baird) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:59:22 +1200 Subject: Help preserving file ownership Message-ID: <49CE030A.10516.DBEBF0@localhost> If it is user home directories that you are migrating, it may be easier just to set the ownership after migration i.e. set ownership of everything in vol1:users\tom to tom, vol1:users\dick to dick etc. My setowner can do that, or you could probably script something using flag.exe. John > I' migrating some network drives that are currently hosted on Unix > servers to NSS. > > All the users that own files on these servers have been LUM enabled on > the Novell server (even with the same UIDs) > > What I want to do is preserve ownership info (for Quota reasons) when > I place these files on NSS on the OES2 Linux server. > > chown won't do it, as it doesn't update the eDir file owner. > > I was thinking of writing a script that found the current owner, and > then executed the right Novell command to change the owner to that > owner, but there doesn't seem to be a way to change a files owner on > NSS from the command line. > > Has anyone got any idea how to tackle this ? > > > Thanks > Alan > > > > --- > AlanP > > > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > > ------- End of forwarded message ------- From alandpearson at yahoo.com Fri Mar 27 22:03:05 2009 From: alandpearson at yahoo.com (Alan Pearson) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:03:05 +0000 Subject: Help preserving file ownership In-Reply-To: <49CE030A.10516.DBEBF0@localhost> References: <49CE030A.10516.DBEBF0@localhost> Message-ID: Hi Jon It's both. For user home dirs, the plan was to tar each one up, then untar as that LUM enabled user on OES. Slow possibly, but we'll be doing one at a time anyway. setowner, do you have a link ? --- AlanP On 27 Mar 2009, at 22:59, John Baird wrote: > If it is user home directories that you are migrating, it may be > easier > just to set the ownership after migration i.e. set ownership of > everything in vol1:users\tom to tom, vol1:users\dick to dick etc. My > setowner can do that, or you could probably script something using > flag.exe. > > John > >> I' migrating some network drives that are currently hosted on Unix >> servers to NSS. >> >> All the users that own files on these servers have been LUM enabled >> on >> the Novell server (even with the same UIDs) >> >> What I want to do is preserve ownership info (for Quota reasons) when >> I place these files on NSS on the OES2 Linux server. >> >> chown won't do it, as it doesn't update the eDir file owner. >> >> I was thinking of writing a script that found the current owner, and >> then executed the right Novell command to change the owner to that >> owner, but there doesn't seem to be a way to change a files owner on >> NSS from the command line. >> >> Has anyone got any idea how to tackle this ? >> >> >> Thanks >> Alan >> >> >> >> --- >> AlanP >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Novell mailing list >> Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk >> http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >> >> > > > ------- End of forwarded message ------- > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com Sat Mar 28 00:14:13 2009 From: James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com (James Taylor) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:14:13 -0400 Subject: Help preserving file ownership In-Reply-To: References: <49CE030A.10516.DBEBF0@localhost> Message-ID: <49CD3395020000750002E536@inet.eastcobbgroup.com> Actually, if that's all you need to do, use the homes utility from hbware. http://www.hbware.com/content/view/17/12/ -jt James Taylor The East Cobb Group, Inc. 678-697-9420 james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com http://www.eastcobbgroup.com >>> Alan Pearson 3/27/2009 06:03 PM >>> Hi Jon It's both. For user home dirs, the plan was to tar each one up, then untar as that LUM enabled user on OES. Slow possibly, but we'll be doing one at a time anyway. setowner, do you have a link ? --- AlanP On 27 Mar 2009, at 22:59, John Baird wrote: > If it is user home directories that you are migrating, it may be > easier > just to set the ownership after migration i.e. set ownership of > everything in vol1:users\tom to tom, vol1:users\dick to dick etc. My > setowner can do that, or you could probably script something using > flag.exe. > > John > >> I' migrating some network drives that are currently hosted on Unix >> servers to NSS. >> >> All the users that own files on these servers have been LUM enabled >> on >> the Novell server (even with the same UIDs) >> >> What I want to do is preserve ownership info (for Quota reasons) when >> I place these files on NSS on the OES2 Linux server. >> >> chown won't do it, as it doesn't update the eDir file owner. >> >> I was thinking of writing a script that found the current owner, and >> then executed the right Novell command to change the owner to that >> owner, but there doesn't seem to be a way to change a files owner on >> NSS from the command line. >> >> Has anyone got any idea how to tackle this ? >> >> >> Thanks >> Alan >> >> >> >> --- >> AlanP >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Novell mailing list >> Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk >> http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell >> >> > > > ------- End of forwarded message ------- > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From bjonkman at sobac.com Mon Mar 30 06:45:09 2009 From: bjonkman at sobac.com (Bob Jonkman) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 01:45:09 -0400 Subject: Groupwise In-Reply-To: <167f4090903251331o2cd08af8u71e3b89ff421bdaf@mail.gmail.com> References: <167f4090903251331o2cd08af8u71e3b89ff421bdaf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49D05C65.8888.CD3F35@bjonkman.sobac.com> Brainstorm offers a free GWAdmin Quick Start card. You just have to give them a transfusion of your digital DNA at http://www.brainstorminc.com/GW7admin and Bob's your uncle. --Uncle Bob. -- -- -- -- Bob Jonkman http://sobac.com/sobac/ SOBAC Microcomputer Services Voice: +1-519-669-0388 6 James Street, Elmira ON Canada N3B 1L5 Cel: +1-519-635-9413 Software --- Office & Business Automation --- Consulting On 25 Mar 2009 at 15:31 Bill Brush wrote about "Groupwise[...]" >Anybody have a "Groupwise admin for the newbie" cheat sheet? I had >someone seek me out because I was wearing a Novell t-shirt and they >need some light administration contracting but part of it is Groupwise >and I've never used it except for the trips to Brainshare. > >Thanks, >Bill >_______________________________________________ >Novell mailing list >Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk >http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From joea at j4computers.com Mon Mar 30 20:19:25 2009 From: joea at j4computers.com (joea at j4computers.com) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:19:25 -0400 Subject: NW bash shell Message-ID: <49D0E2EB020000850005F970@FS-LIN-OES> working on a dsbackup scheme using dsbk. tring to use "dsbk backup -f `date --iso-8601`.bak l- `date --iso-8601`.log -t -w -b" to timestamp file names. Works fine in linux. Tried it in NetWare 6.5 (eDir 8.7.3.10). Does not seem to work. One hassle is the date thingie does not seem to work in file names, as in linux. Bigger problem is that dsbk does not seem to like being called from the bash shell. While it invokes, it seems unhappy with the file location. Apparently. Says it cannot find log file. No amount of fussing around with variation of path "/" vs "\", etc. seem to make it happy. Am I just wasting time trying to get this to work in NetWare? joe a. From andysp at usm.maine.edu Mon Mar 30 20:28:00 2009 From: andysp at usm.maine.edu (Andy Smith-Petersen) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:28:00 -0400 Subject: ZCM agent memory usage In-Reply-To: <167f4090903250633p27c935ccq1d7f5a62d4880d74@mail.gmail.com> References: <167f4090903250633p27c935ccq1d7f5a62d4880d74@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49D0E500020000B90002F1B5@uct5.uct.usm.maine.edu> Just looking at two machines here in my office, both are running 30-32 MB. This is 10.1.2, with about 55 bundles assigned (a few are user assigned, but the majority are device assigned) + DLU and group policies. Hope that helps, Andy -- Andy Smith-Petersen System Administrator IT Network Services University of Southern Maine >>> On 3/25/2009 at 9:33 AM, Bill Brush wrote: > I am looking for information on what the "normal" range of memory > usage for the agent is on XP pro. > > We are seeing some varying memory usage, and some members of the team > think that the agent possibly has a memory leak. The agent will > normally run about 8 MB of memory at startup then go up to 50-80 MB > after a few hours. There have been anecdotal incidents where killing > the process and restarting it has solved performance issues. > > Are these memory footprints normal? I personally don't think they're > excessive for a Windows process, but I could be wrong. > > If anyone is running ZCM and has had a client machine running for a > day or so, I would love to hear what the agent memory usage is. > > We're on version 10.1.3 FYI. > > Thanks, > Bill > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From petervl at gmail.com Mon Mar 30 21:15:36 2009 From: petervl at gmail.com (Peter Van Lone) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:15:36 -0500 Subject: NW bash shell In-Reply-To: <49D0E2EB020000850005F970@FS-LIN-OES> References: <49D0E2EB020000850005F970@FS-LIN-OES> Message-ID: <68b791330903301315q7df12d01kf28cfee492f08a80@mail.gmail.com> My guess is that, like much of anything else, you are wasting your time trying to accomplish really anything *sort of* new in Netware. ... P On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 2:19 PM, joea at j4computers.com wrote: > working on a dsbackup scheme using dsbk. > > tring to use "dsbk backup -f `date --iso-8601`.bak l- `date --iso-8601`.log -t -w -b" to timestamp file names. Works fine in linux. > > Tried it in NetWare 6.5 (eDir 8.7.3.10). Does not seem to work. One hassle is the date thingie does not seem to work in file names, as in linux. > > Bigger problem is that dsbk does not seem to like being called from the bash shell. While it invokes, it seems unhappy with the file location. Apparently. Says it cannot find log file. No amount of fussing around with variation of path "/" vs "\", etc. seem to make it happy. > > Am I just wasting time trying to get this to work in NetWare? > > joe a. > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > From bbrush at gmail.com Mon Mar 30 21:21:54 2009 From: bbrush at gmail.com (Bill Brush) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:21:54 -0500 Subject: NW bash shell In-Reply-To: <68b791330903301315q7df12d01kf28cfee492f08a80@mail.gmail.com> References: <49D0E2EB020000850005F970@FS-LIN-OES> <68b791330903301315q7df12d01kf28cfee492f08a80@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <167f4090903301321p7358cd60i95872d94a1f2e08@mail.gmail.com> Peter your Novell disgruntlement is showing. ;-) On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Peter Van Lone wrote: > My guess is that, like much of anything else, you are wasting your > time trying to accomplish really anything *sort of* new in Netware. > > ... From petervl at gmail.com Mon Mar 30 22:05:41 2009 From: petervl at gmail.com (Peter Van Lone) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:05:41 -0500 Subject: NW bash shell In-Reply-To: <167f4090903301321p7358cd60i95872d94a1f2e08@mail.gmail.com> References: <49D0E2EB020000850005F970@FS-LIN-OES> <68b791330903301315q7df12d01kf28cfee492f08a80@mail.gmail.com> <167f4090903301321p7358cd60i95872d94a1f2e08@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <68b791330903301405p2bdbeca6u85d1681812ae249c@mail.gmail.com> oh well On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Bill Brush wrote: > Peter your Novell disgruntlement is showing. ;-) > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Peter Van Lone wrote: > >> My guess is that, like much of anything else, you are wasting your >> time trying to accomplish really anything *sort of* new in Netware. >> >> ... > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > From Setienne at enesco.com Tue Mar 31 14:28:01 2009 From: Setienne at enesco.com (Scott Etienne) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 08:28:01 -0500 Subject: Security Problem In-Reply-To: <49CB23F7020000850005F8B1@FS-LIN-OES> References: <49CA14DB0200008D00018BAC@uct5.uct.usm.maine.edu> <68b791330903251849y554003c4h97237b15e0654134@mail.gmail.com> <49CAEAB3.6050301@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <49CB23F7020000850005F8B1@FS-LIN-OES> Message-ID: <49D1D411.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> We used to have an IRF on a an eDirectory volume that restricted access from everyone except a couple of us in IT. The filter is gone, and I am trying to put it back, but I am restricted from screening the Create right on Entry rights. We have audit running, but I have never used it before, and not sure if it will show the infraction that caused the problem. This is unnerving, because every time we implement security, someone intervenes and boosts rights somewhere. Any help greatly appreciated. Thank you, Scott Etienne Network Engineer Enesco, LLC setienne at enesco.com From Setienne at enesco.com Tue Mar 31 14:43:08 2009 From: Setienne at enesco.com (Scott Etienne) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 08:43:08 -0500 Subject: Security Problem In-Reply-To: <49D1D411.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> References: <49CA14DB0200008D00018BAC@uct5.uct.usm.maine.edu> <68b791330903251849y554003c4h97237b15e0654134@mail.gmail.com> <49CAEAB3.6050301@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <49CB23F7020000850005F8B1@FS-LIN-OES> <49D1D411.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> Message-ID: <49D1D79B.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> Also: When I try to run a query in Audit, it tells me bad username or password. >>> On 3/31/2009 at 8:28 AM, in message <49D1D411.8A77.004D.0 at enesco.com>, "Scott Etienne" wrote: We used to have an IRF on a an eDirectory volume that restricted access from everyone except a couple of us in IT. The filter is gone, and I am trying to put it back, but I am restricted from screening the Create right on Entry rights. We have audit running, but I have never used it before, and not sure if it will show the infraction that caused the problem. This is unnerving, because every time we implement security, someone intervenes and boosts rights somewhere. Any help greatly appreciated. Thank you, Scott Etienne Network Engineer Enesco, LLC setienne at enesco.com _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From Setienne at enesco.com Tue Mar 31 16:18:40 2009 From: Setienne at enesco.com (Scott Etienne) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 10:18:40 -0500 Subject: Security Problem In-Reply-To: <49D1D79B.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> References: <49CA14DB0200008D00018BAC@uct5.uct.usm.maine.edu> <68b791330903251849y554003c4h97237b15e0654134@mail.gmail.com> <49CAEAB3.6050301@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <49CB23F7020000850005F8B1@FS-LIN-OES> <49D1D411.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> <49D1D79B.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> Message-ID: <49D1EE00.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> In case my description is too brief, the problem is that we cannot put the IRF back with the Create Entry right blocked. When we try to create the IRF, the create right is checked and the box is grayed out. I have admin rights to the root and to every partition in the tree. DSRepair does not fix the problem, and DSBrowse so far does not show us what is going on. Does anyone have any idea how to fix this, or what might be going on? Thank you, Scott Etienne Network Engineer Enesco, LLC setienne at enesco.com >>> On 3/31/2009 at 8:43 AM, in message <49D1D79B.8A77.004D.0 at enesco.com>, "Scott Etienne" wrote: Also: When I try to run a query in Audit, it tells me bad username or password. >>> On 3/31/2009 at 8:28 AM, in message <49D1D411.8A77.004D.0 at enesco.com>, "Scott Etienne" wrote: We used to have an IRF on a an eDirectory volume that restricted access from everyone except a couple of us in IT. The filter is gone, and I am trying to put it back, but I am restricted from screening the Create right on Entry rights. We have audit running, but I have never used it before, and not sure if it will show the infraction that caused the problem. This is unnerving, because every time we implement security, someone intervenes and boosts rights somewhere. Any help greatly appreciated. Thank you, Scott Etienne Network Engineer Enesco, LLC setienne at enesco.com _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From Setienne at enesco.com Tue Mar 31 17:20:13 2009 From: Setienne at enesco.com (Scott Etienne) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:20:13 -0500 Subject: Re-import volume (was Security Problem) In-Reply-To: <49D1EE00.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> References: <49CA14DB0200008D00018BAC@uct5.uct.usm.maine.edu> <68b791330903251849y554003c4h97237b15e0654134@mail.gmail.com> <49CAEAB3.6050301@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <49CB23F7020000850005F8B1@FS-LIN-OES> <49D1D411.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> <49D1D79B.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> <49D1EE00.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> Message-ID: <49D1FC6D.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> I remember that deleting a volume in NDS and restoring it with NWConfig / Add Mounted Volume Objects into the Directory, used to be no big deal. Is this still the case? Thank you, Scott Etienne Network Engineer Enesco, LLC setienne at enesco.com >>> On 3/31/2009 at 10:18 AM, in message <49D1EE00.8A77.004D.0 at enesco.com>, "Scott Etienne" wrote: In case my description is too brief, the problem is that we cannot put the IRF back with the Create Entry right blocked. When we try to create the IRF, the create right is checked and the box is grayed out. I have admin rights to the root and to every partition in the tree. DSRepair does not fix the problem, and DSBrowse so far does not show us what is going on. Does anyone have any idea how to fix this, or what might be going on? Thank you, Scott Etienne Network Engineer Enesco, LLC setienne at enesco.com >>> On 3/31/2009 at 8:43 AM, in message <49D1D79B.8A77.004D.0 at enesco.com>, "Scott Etienne" wrote: Also: When I try to run a query in Audit, it tells me bad username or password. >>> On 3/31/2009 at 8:28 AM, in message <49D1D411.8A77.004D.0 at enesco.com>, "Scott Etienne" wrote: We used to have an IRF on a an eDirectory volume that restricted access from everyone except a couple of us in IT. The filter is gone, and I am trying to put it back, but I am restricted from screening the Create right on Entry rights. We have audit running, but I have never used it before, and not sure if it will show the infraction that caused the problem. This is unnerving, because every time we implement security, someone intervenes and boosts rights somewhere. Any help greatly appreciated. Thank you, Scott Etienne Network Engineer Enesco, LLC setienne at enesco.com _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell From RGrein at tpchd.org Tue Mar 31 21:42:18 2009 From: RGrein at tpchd.org (Randy Grein) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:42:18 -0700 Subject: Re-import volume (was Security Problem) In-Reply-To: <49D1FC6D.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> References: <49CA14DB0200008D00018BAC@uct5.uct.usm.maine.edu> <68b791330903251849y554003c4h97237b15e0654134@mail.gmail.com> <49CAEAB3.6050301@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <49CB23F7020000850005F8B1@FS-LIN-OES> <49D1D411.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> <49D1D79B.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> <49D1EE00.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> <49D1FC6D.8A77.004D.0@enesco.com> Message-ID: <49D21DBA0200007200001618@health-mail2.tpchd.org> Yes. Randy Grein Sr. Network Engineer >>> "Scott Etienne" 3/31/2009 9:20 AM >>> I remember that deleting a volume in NDS and restoring it with NWConfig / Add Mounted Volume Objects into the Directory, used to be no big deal. Is this still the case? Thank you, Scott Etienne Network Engineer Enesco, LLC setienne at enesco.com >>> On 3/31/2009 at 10:18 AM, in message <49D1EE00.8A77.004D.0 at enesco.com>, "Scott Etienne" wrote: In case my description is too brief, the problem is that we cannot put the IRF back with the Create Entry right blocked. When we try to create the IRF, the create right is checked and the box is grayed out. I have admin rights to the root and to every partition in the tree. DSRepair does not fix the problem, and DSBrowse so far does not show us what is going on. Does anyone have any idea how to fix this, or what might be going on? Thank you, Scott Etienne Network Engineer Enesco, LLC setienne at enesco.com >>> On 3/31/2009 at 8:43 AM, in message <49D1D79B.8A77.004D.0 at enesco.com>, "Scott Etienne" wrote: Also: When I try to run a query in Audit, it tells me bad username or password. >>> On 3/31/2009 at 8:28 AM, in message <49D1D411.8A77.004D.0 at enesco.com>, "Scott Etienne" wrote: We used to have an IRF on a an eDirectory volume that restricted access from everyone except a couple of us in IT. The filter is gone, and I am trying to put it back, but I am restricted from screening the Create right on Entry rights. We have audit running, but I have never used it before, and not sure if it will show the infraction that caused the problem. This is unnerving, because every time we implement security, someone intervenes and boosts rights somewhere. Any help greatly appreciated. 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